June 11, 2025 • 8 mins
Introducing I Never Told You This: Two People. One big reveal. A simple card deck with questions. Some are light hearted, some deeper…and one that says ‘I Never Told You This’ - the chance for one person to share something they’ve never told the other before.In the first episode of 'I Never Told You This', Mary and Martha Kalifatidis chat about their all-too-relatable experience of protectiveness and anxiety as parents.If you want to continue to enjoy this series, it will be dropping every Thursday over at the But Are You Happy podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
So much you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mama Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on. I'm a Shiny Dante,
host of But Are You Happy? Did you know that
one in five Australians experience and mental health condition each year,
Yet too many suffer in silence. Talking about our feelings
and experiences is one of the most powerful steps towards
(00:34):
healing and knowing we're not alone. That's why we're introducing
I Never Told You This, a series created to spark honest,
meaningful conversations that support better mental well being, brought to
you by Medibank.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I have anxiety myself. I don't even know what to
do with it. Do you know how to deal with it?
I feel like we don't really know how to.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Deal with it.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We just kind of get up and just seize the day.
It doesn't matter how you're feeling.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Soldier on Two People, One big reveal.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I Never told you This a simple card game where
one question could change everything. It starts ly, what more
things brings me joy?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm not going to answer that.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Then comes the moment that could shift a relationship forever,
as they finished this sentence.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I never told you this. I've never told you. They
never told you this.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Today, Reality TV influences mother and daughter duo Mary and
Martha Califordidas will be sitting down together.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Quite nervous, but I'm always nervous.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Mary has something big to reveal to her daughter.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
I don't think she's expecting me to say what I'm
going to say.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Welcome, Martha.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh, thanks for having me Mary. This is a bit
new for.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Us, I know. Welcome.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
So today we're going to play a little game with
the Medibank family roast cards.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Are you ready to play?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yes, let's get into this game. I think we need
a little game.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
So who picks?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
There?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You go for it?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Oh? Are you ready? Oh?
Speaker 6 (01:57):
What is the most ridiculous fashion trend you ever followed?
Those thick fat belts that were like a boob trip
and we'd wear them over the jeans. That has to
be one of the ugliest things I ever did. I'm
five foot two and that made me four foot two.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I probably told you, but you wouldn't probably listen.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
She had to throw that one in my face, just.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Saying kid, just saying.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
All right, So I'll pick a Card.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh, what is something I do that grosses you out?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I don't think you do anything they do not.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, that's right, good answer, Mary.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
What about me?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I don't because I can say so many things.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I bring it to the table.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Cutting your cuticles.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Well, that's just like meditation.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
If you go and get that done and then you
like to do more and just keep cutting the cuticles,
it must be a nervous.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's definitely a nervous habit.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Okay, I'll take that all right, go next? Oh is
that me? What do you think your most useless talent is?
You've got plenty of those.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I don't think I've got any. I just there's no
time for uselessness in our family.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
What about how you.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Can you start singing every single commercial song that's ever
come on since like nineteen eighty fifties from the Earth.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I'm going to pick the next card. I never told
you this.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
When you went on reality TV, all these comments would
come in on social media. It actually affected me, but
I didn't want to show you that it was affecting me.
All these comments that were coming in, and I'd be
staying up till three four in the morning, and I
didn't realize how toxic social media can be. I didn't
(03:43):
know as a parent how I can comfort you.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
No, I can totally understand how that would have affected you.
With the trolls on the internet, they think they know me,
but you really know me, and so you were reading
things that weren't true, and then that would be just
endless cycle.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Now you're a parent, and I'm sure you would probably
do the.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Same now that I'm a parent, I just want to
protect him from everything.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I could only imagine.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
And that's why I didn't want to burden you with
I've got anxiety, I can't sleep, I was I had
shortness of breath, like I.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Was thinking, mom, don't yeah, but that's how it was.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I think to some degree I did have some idea,
because you did start acting really strange. I definitely think.
I know you were staying up really late looking at comments,
and I remember just being too like, don't worry about it, man,
like it's fine. But I think at the time I
didn't want to show you either that it was affecting me,
so I would just say oh to you, like it
(04:41):
doesn't matter, but really, like I would be in my
room staying up breading the comments, as well. So I
have anxiety myself. I don't even know what to do
with it. Do you know how to deal with it?
I feel like we don't really know how to deal
with it. We just kind of move on with the
day and just keep the day going. But it doesn't
mean that the anxiety goes away.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
The rest of this episode of I never told you
this right after the.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Break, Thinking back, I should have just been more open
and told you, like, you know what, it's normal to
feel this way because I'm feeling this way. Yeah, I
think if this had done that, we probably would have
been able to, you know, commune and cack it and
then just deal with it in the open instead of
dealing with it separately in.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Our different rooms.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, but that's very That's very much what our family does,
though we're not very good at revealing, which is strange
because we're so open. That's about everything about movements and everything,
because we've brought up to be like quite hard.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
And like strong and tough body. No, you can't get
over it, get up and just seize the day.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It doesn't matter how you're feeling.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Soldier on.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
When I was growing up, our parents were very strict.
They never showed emotion. They never you know, I.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Just find that hard to believe. Yeah, yeah, it is
like the most softest, sweetest, gentlest, emotional, loving caring.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
It wasn't when we were growing up.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I just find it hard to believe she was strict.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Get up.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
See what old age does. It really softened.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
It breaks you down.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
With like searching and being like my own little detective.
I noticed that a lot of these comments weren't coming
from young kids that were just being mean.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
These were from parents that had kids. How could you
try and destroy someone else's child.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
People want kids to be kind, but they don't teach
them the tools to be kind and not to bring
other people down, you know, like kids are mean today.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I hate that I was to learn that from somewhere.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. The parents are the
ones that need to actually change.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I kind of feel a bit sad for you in
a way that you kind of dealt with that on
your own.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
That's what parents do, you know. They try to protect
I think their kids as much as they can. You know,
So if your son was dealing with anxiety, how would
you help him?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Growing up?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You always said those that matter don't mind and those
that mind don't matter. It doesn't really matter because who
are these people to you? As long as like you know, you,
your friends, your family, the people that you care about,
the opinions of others don't really matter.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's good.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
At least you've got something, something stuck from all those years.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, it's not easy being a parent.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's so not it's the hardest thing ever. It's so
not easy being a parent. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh, thank you, Mary, No worries any time.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And it's nice to know that you're human under all that. Yeah,
it's nice to know that under all there there is
actually some flesh and blood.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well done, fish pump.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Oh is that something we do still?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
This episode was brought to you by Medibank. Live Better
with Medibank. If this conversation brought up any strong feelings
for you, don't forget There is help out there. Please
see Joes for resources.
So much you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mama Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on. I'm a Shiny Dante,
host of But Are You Happy? Did you know that
one in five Australians experience and mental health condition each year,
Yet too many suffer in silence. Talking about our feelings
and experiences is one of the most powerful steps towards
(00:34):
healing and knowing we're not alone. That's why we're introducing
I Never Told You This, a series created to spark honest,
meaningful conversations that support better mental well being, brought to
you by Medibank.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I have anxiety myself. I don't even know what to
do with it. Do you know how to deal with it?
I feel like we don't really know how to.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Deal with it.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We just kind of get up and just seize the day.
It doesn't matter how you're feeling.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Soldier on Two People, One big reveal.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I Never told you This a simple card game where
one question could change everything. It starts ly, what more
things brings me joy?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm not going to answer that.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Then comes the moment that could shift a relationship forever,
as they finished this sentence.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I never told you this. I've never told you. They
never told you this.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Today, Reality TV influences mother and daughter duo Mary and
Martha Califordidas will be sitting down together.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Quite nervous, but I'm always nervous.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Mary has something big to reveal to her daughter.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
I don't think she's expecting me to say what I'm
going to say.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Welcome, Martha.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh, thanks for having me Mary. This is a bit
new for.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Us, I know. Welcome.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
So today we're going to play a little game with
the Medibank family roast cards.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Are you ready to play?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yes, let's get into this game. I think we need
a little game.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
So who picks?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
There?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You go for it?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Oh? Are you ready? Oh?
Speaker 6 (01:57):
What is the most ridiculous fashion trend you ever followed?
Those thick fat belts that were like a boob trip
and we'd wear them over the jeans. That has to
be one of the ugliest things I ever did. I'm
five foot two and that made me four foot two.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I probably told you, but you wouldn't probably listen.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
She had to throw that one in my face, just.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Saying kid, just saying.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
All right, So I'll pick a Card.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh, what is something I do that grosses you out?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I don't think you do anything they do not.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, that's right, good answer, Mary.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
What about me?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I don't because I can say so many things.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I bring it to the table.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Cutting your cuticles.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Well, that's just like meditation.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
If you go and get that done and then you
like to do more and just keep cutting the cuticles,
it must be a nervous.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's definitely a nervous habit.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Okay, I'll take that all right, go next? Oh is
that me? What do you think your most useless talent is?
You've got plenty of those.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I don't think I've got any. I just there's no
time for uselessness in our family.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
What about how you.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Can you start singing every single commercial song that's ever
come on since like nineteen eighty fifties from the Earth.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I'm going to pick the next card. I never told
you this.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
When you went on reality TV, all these comments would
come in on social media. It actually affected me, but
I didn't want to show you that it was affecting me.
All these comments that were coming in, and I'd be
staying up till three four in the morning, and I
didn't realize how toxic social media can be. I didn't
(03:43):
know as a parent how I can comfort you.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
No, I can totally understand how that would have affected you.
With the trolls on the internet, they think they know me,
but you really know me, and so you were reading
things that weren't true, and then that would be just
endless cycle.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Now you're a parent, and I'm sure you would probably
do the.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Same now that I'm a parent, I just want to
protect him from everything.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I could only imagine.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
And that's why I didn't want to burden you with
I've got anxiety, I can't sleep, I was I had
shortness of breath, like I.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Was thinking, mom, don't yeah, but that's how it was.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I think to some degree I did have some idea,
because you did start acting really strange. I definitely think.
I know you were staying up really late looking at comments,
and I remember just being too like, don't worry about it, man,
like it's fine. But I think at the time I
didn't want to show you either that it was affecting me,
so I would just say oh to you, like it
(04:41):
doesn't matter, but really, like I would be in my
room staying up breading the comments, as well. So I
have anxiety myself. I don't even know what to do
with it. Do you know how to deal with it?
I feel like we don't really know how to deal
with it. We just kind of move on with the
day and just keep the day going. But it doesn't
mean that the anxiety goes away.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
The rest of this episode of I never told you
this right after the.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Break, Thinking back, I should have just been more open
and told you, like, you know what, it's normal to
feel this way because I'm feeling this way. Yeah, I
think if this had done that, we probably would have
been able to, you know, commune and cack it and
then just deal with it in the open instead of
dealing with it separately in.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Our different rooms.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, but that's very That's very much what our family does,
though we're not very good at revealing, which is strange
because we're so open. That's about everything about movements and everything,
because we've brought up to be like quite hard.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
And like strong and tough body. No, you can't get
over it, get up and just seize the day.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It doesn't matter how you're feeling.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Soldier on.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
When I was growing up, our parents were very strict.
They never showed emotion. They never you know, I.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Just find that hard to believe. Yeah, yeah, it is
like the most softest, sweetest, gentlest, emotional, loving caring.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
It wasn't when we were growing up.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I just find it hard to believe she was strict.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Get up.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
See what old age does. It really softened.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
It breaks you down.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
With like searching and being like my own little detective.
I noticed that a lot of these comments weren't coming
from young kids that were just being mean.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
These were from parents that had kids. How could you
try and destroy someone else's child.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
People want kids to be kind, but they don't teach
them the tools to be kind and not to bring
other people down, you know, like kids are mean today.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I hate that I was to learn that from somewhere.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. The parents are the
ones that need to actually change.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I kind of feel a bit sad for you in
a way that you kind of dealt with that on
your own.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
That's what parents do, you know. They try to protect
I think their kids as much as they can. You know,
So if your son was dealing with anxiety, how would
you help him?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Growing up?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You always said those that matter don't mind and those
that mind don't matter. It doesn't really matter because who
are these people to you? As long as like you know, you,
your friends, your family, the people that you care about,
the opinions of others don't really matter.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's good.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
At least you've got something, something stuck from all those years.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, it's not easy being a parent.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's so not it's the hardest thing ever. It's so
not easy being a parent. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh, thank you, Mary, No worries any time.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And it's nice to know that you're human under all that. Yeah,
it's nice to know that under all there there is
actually some flesh and blood.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well done, fish pump.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Oh is that something we do still?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
This episode was brought to you by Medibank. Live Better
with Medibank. If this conversation brought up any strong feelings
for you, don't forget There is help out there. Please
see Joes for resources.
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