December 23, 2025 • 39 mins
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It’s the moment we’ve all been waiting for, Meghan Markle’s lifestyle Netflix series With Love, Meghan is back with a whole new round of guests, sprinkled flowers, terrifying seafood, and questionable art practices that horrified us to no end.
From a jump scare courtesy of John Legend, to the moment one of Meghan Markle’s kitchen appliances personally insulted us and so much more, it’s time for a brutally honest review of this beautiful and confusing series.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 1 (01:14):
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Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm Burn.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And Today, we have a show that we have been
waiting months to bring you because it is our brutally
honest review of With Love Megan on Netflix Pop two
Part two. I said, I almost did like the little
friend I thought I was in season six Sex and City,
as I wish I was there. I love the idea
(01:50):
of spending time together and finding new ways to show
with people you care.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Look at that, Oh my gosh, I could do this
every day.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Let's get creative and you learn something new, nice and done.
I don't know what's happening. I'm so glad you came
to show me how to do this. It's working. They's
like getting out of your comfort zone. I have no
idea where to start. Everybody should have one of those
homes threes you think. So, this is one of the
most joyful days. So comforted, very comforting. After what I
(02:23):
want to make are things I want to share. This
looks fantastic. There are easy ways to show up lovingly.
She has given me a goose bumps.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
That is so lovely.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
That's delicious.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
We also did a briutly honest review of season one,
so if you haven't listened to that, we will link
it in our show notes, because I think that was
one of my favorite brittley honest reviews. Because I was
a bit delirious because I remember watching all eight episodes
back to back. I felt like the episodes and season
one were a bit longer, like they were more around
the forty minute mark. And I just came into the
(02:58):
office after watching the last episode going I'm ready, I'm
ready to write you were.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
When we do a brially honest review, which are episodes
that we talk about the biggest TV shows and movies
have been released, and normally this is the part of
the show where I'd say, if you haven't watched it,
all gold and watch it because we're going to go
deep on spoilers. However, there are no spoilers with this.
If you haven't watched it, that's fine. Imagine if they
had like a full plot twist. Well that's what I
(03:24):
thought when you said this morning, I hadn't watched the
last fifteen minutes the last episode. I was like, imagine
if I was like, oh my god, things go off
the rails. They didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's a very much a home lifestyle warm friendly. It's
like a show you put on in the background while
you do something else.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I mean, to an extent, it wouldn't be my choice
of a background show. But yes, with Love Megan Season
one came out a few months ago, and as soon
as it finished, Meghan Markle herself let us know. I
know she's Megan Sussex now, but for all times sakes,
I'll call her Megan marked Miny Kayling.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We'll be like, hey, no one call her Megan Markle.
Don't make my mistake.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Mindy Kayling's not watching the season because she's like, I
can't revisit the trauma of sitting in that hot house
and making a tea party and they being publicly called
on the internet for months on it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I was actually thinking about that episode in particular while
watching the season two. Sorry to segue, but like, this
season is I feel like way more educational in the
way that she's teaching like her friends to do things,
And it felt like that episode of Mindy Kaaling was
more like, here's something you can do with your kids.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, And I was like, then why is Mindy there grandkids?
Because Mindy was like, I pay people to do this.
I don't do it myself because I'm super busy and
I run a huge production.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Every other episode like, it's like these adults learning things
that they could do as adults.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And for Mindy it was just like, here's something you
can do for your kids. She was like, no thanks,
Which is interesting because that's what Megan Michael came in
and said after the season one aired, is that they
had filmed it all in one go. Yes, so season
two was locked and loaded.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
So there's no learnings, no feedback.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
There was no time to go back and reshuffle things
and redo things. What they filmed is what they had.
So you and I have watched. I watched all in
one night. I think he watched it across two nights.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I started, I did four episodes it's last night and
four episodes this morning.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
A healthy way to do it, I was. I can't
even describe this date I was in by the time,
I did eight hours in one night after working a
full day in this office of Megan Michael's new show.
But take me through your thought journey of watching it.
What was your experience like.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So I had half a bottle of wine I.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Did do you can't watch that so much? And if
you're not drinking, but like, we couldn't watch it.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
So we also have a massive work project coming up,
So I was in that mindset of like working on
that project while also trying to watch and enjoy. Yeah
with love Megan, I have to pause there. Yeah, there
is a comma, so you have to pause. And so
I had half a bottle of wine in the first
two and a half episodes. I was like, you know what,
I think this might.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Be my favorite show of the year. Really.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I loved it so much.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
In the first episode, correct, okay, well it is. I
came full kind of.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I was really into it. I had so much fun,
and then like I started to sober up and I
was like, oh, this is just this is just the
exact same thing that we watched, so things like same
thing we watched last season. Yeah, But because I knew
that they filmed it back to back and it was
like this big multimillion dollar deal that they had with Netflix,
that's the reason she had to do this show in
(06:21):
the first place.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I went in being a bit.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
More kinder towards what I was going to experience. So
because I knew it wasn't going to be different from
season one, it was literally going to be the same thing.
So I went in and I feel like my outtake
from this season is much more She's just doing what
she wants to do. I'm going to leave her alone.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Well that's my thing. A lot of people hate watched it. Well, actually,
as we know, a lot of people didn't watch it
all because it was number three hundred on Netflix. In
saying that though it had over five million views, it's
just that Netflix numbers are so huge. On network television
that would be like the biggest show of the year.
So it's not that people didn't watch it, it's just
that it didn't crack the Netflix like top thirty.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I want to know, like all the shows that cracked
the top thirty that didn't get the multimillion dollar deal
going yeah, hey, where's our money.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well that's the thing too, is like there's been this
big song and dance about Meghan and Harry having this
one hundred million dollar deal with Netflix and the fact
that it expires in September of this year, so it's
expired now and they won't be renewing it. And I
think that's been painted as a bit of our like
Megan and Harry are failures Netflix doesn't want anything to
do with them. But it's more so that Netflix is
cutting all of those big long term content deals and
(07:32):
doing project by project, which a lot of media companies
are doing at the moment because the Obama's also had
their deal ended, and that's not making headlines. But they're
just like, we're not in the business of now giving
people a huge lump sum of cash and just seeing
what they make and green lighting projects. It's like, you
bring us a project we want, We're going to buy it.
So Meghan and Harry are still working with Netflix, right, Okay.
I mean, I don't know why I've become their defender,
(07:53):
but I'm a defender of truth that.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Before we get into it, I do want to point
out the biggest issue when it comes to filming back
to back. The worst thing, okay that can happen when
you're filming a show back to back is if your
dog dies.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
No.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I know, I know, Guy the Beagle, but it's good
because otherwise then we saw a little bit of MoMA Mia.
Yeah yeah, ah, oh my god, because I grew up
with beagles and when I saw a guy there, knowing
that guy's not with us anymore, and he's still such
a main character, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
They can't edit him out. That's his final like role,
his final big role.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And then like Christy, Teagan sees him and she's like,
who's this and Meghan's like, it's Guy, and Chrisy's like,
I love how he's just chilling and Megan's like, yeah,
he's an old man, and I was like, Christy, you
have no idea? What's about?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
What happened? Did you see that? The day that With
Love Meghan season two came out, Meghan Markle shared on
her Instagram stories, So she did this video of her
walking into her beautiful kitchen, like her real life kitchen.
So she's a film there and little Lilla Bette is
there and she runs past in her pajamas and she
said that Prince Harry had given her this gift and
it's a huge, huge, blown up black and white photo
(09:03):
of her and Guy. So he must have known. Prince
Harry h as she calls him, must have known that
it would be a really traumatic day because the show
was coming out and guys in it, and he passed away,
So he gifted her this big black and white portrait
of Guy to be like he's still here.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh my god. It was just really really sad. It
was like, that was my plot twist and the show. Okay,
the first scene of Guy, I was like, it's Guy.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
No, I forgot I forgot, yes, So that's because they
fill him back to back, so guys in the whole thing,
and then he passed away. I kind of thought of that,
but that's so true. So We Love Megan. Part two
follows a similar kind of flow to the first series,
which is some celebrity guests, some friends of Megan Markle
(09:45):
and some people she's never met, come in and out
of this house that they've rented, which people are really
upset about. But of course they've rented a house. What
are they going to do put up a TV set
for weeks in her own home where her children are.
She actually never said I loved how people thought they
were being detectives. They're like, I've discovered it's on her
real house, and it was like, I do think that
wasn't being hidden.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
No, I mean I did write an article about it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay, you discovered it, I discovered or fun. I think
it was fun to point out, but I just don't
think it was the big kind of like we've got
you moments.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
It was more funny in the way that the whole
show is about being a hostess and creating a home
and building your home. And she's like opening these drawers
and going in the pantry as if she lives there,
when she definitely does.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
She definitely doesn't. That's so true. But yes, but I
think I think in the second season we have moved on.
We have moved on. At least it's the same house
that's the first season. Yeah, no, exactly. So it's the
same house. So guests come in and out, and she
either cooks with them, prepares things with them, or teaches
them little home craft tricks.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And or she'll have like a jump card where she
does something before they get there. Yeah, and she's in
like a different outfit on a different day.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Those week moments were raping the.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Honey for the bees, like oh my god, the scarves,
making the scarves from scratch.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
That was the point where and we're not going to
go in order here, mostly because I feel like most
of you guys haven't watched this show, so you won't
be like, hey, that happened in episode five. But also
so there's like no spoilers, So each episode stood at
the whole thing is like a fever dream. I went
through so many watching this. At first I was like
I poured my wine. I'm like, oh, hey, here we go.
She is just so beautiful and comforting to watch on
TV is a big thing. So she came on TV
(11:17):
and I was like, here we go. This is fun.
And then I went through so many emotions. I went
through like sadness for her. Then I went through liking her.
Then I was and completely enraged at one moment, which
we'll get to, and then I went back through acceptance.
And then I went like career plotting for her in
my head of where she should like go next with
her life and what she could do, and that was
such a pip And then at the end I felt
(11:39):
like like kind of joy for her. So I went
through the gambit of emotions over eight hours, Like, seriously.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I want to know what made you rage? But first,
but first I want to talk about Christy Tagan. Yes, okay,
So this was the second episode, Christy Tagan comes over.
John Legend is also over. We escorts Chrissy Tagan, which
was I guess the one jump scare that we had
because he wasn't meant to be there even maybe it
was like I don't know you were here. Hate isn't here.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Not everything's good, thank you little fool up here.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It was a weird moment of going like, why are
you here? My husband's and he does in that moment,
internationally renound best selling artist John Legend does look like
like a handbag man, like he's just been kind of
wrought and dropped off and he doesn't know what to do.
He's looking at the cameras, he doesn't know if he's
been filmed or not. He's just he's very nervous.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
He's very very nervous. So Megan and Christy are like cooking.
This is something that I feel like Chrissy take and
should not have done.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Really.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
The thing about Christy Teagan is like, this is what
she was known for for a really long time, is
that she would do those cooking videos at home with
her and her mum, and she was like building this
whole franchise around that, and she would film all day
on Instagram these moments of her life and her kitchen
and cooking tips, and that whole thing blew up with
her bullying Courtney stott In and step away from that
(13:14):
brand that she had built with Chris Jenna, and step
away from what she was doing, and she doesn't post.
I mean, she's got four kids now, she had like only.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Lot or two old kids and four dogs.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, and then a busy lady. But I think also
like that whole relatable I'm in my kitchen thing kind
of died when a scandal happened.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Okay, that's good to know because I knew that she
had a lot of cookbooks that everyone became obsessed with it.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, she's althoughed a lot of cookbooks.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But then it came to measuring ingredients, and then she
had to put three hundred grams of flour into a cup. Yeah,
and she kind of like did like a bit of
a sprinkle, like a pinch of salt. Yeah, and then
she was like I don't know how much three hundred
grams is And you can even see like Megan like
immediately her face was like she thought she was joking.
She was like, oh, and then did she immediately changed
(13:58):
her friend? She was like, oh, it's a bit more.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, it's like quite a bit more.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I was like, I thought this woman was like a.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Chef no, she is a chef, not making me defend
these women. But cooking and baking are two very different things,
and baking is a very hard skill, a different skill.
It's more. And Meghan says this in one of.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Her episodes, cooking is baking a science?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yes, And I really feel that in my bones because
it is just not going to die, that is exactly.
And also who amongst us is? That's why when I
tried to teach you to cook in the past, I've said.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
That is a fair point because I don't do either.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Don't do it. So that's why I can see the
TV with my wine and my Ubi. It's going, can't you? Meanwhile,
you can't even turn your own.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Meanwhile, I don't own a measurement car or flower.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You don't flower flower because you can put it over. Okay,
we can't. I've been trying to the backstory here is
I've been trying to teach Emily to cook for years.
More than that, I've been trying to teach you how
to grocery shop and then cook the basic items you buy.
And we haven't got there. And it's fine, You're perfect,
You're good at other things.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
That's really kind, Thank you. So much.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But when she said that, like I don't know the
measurements and stuff, I felt that in my bones because
I'm a really good cook, but I can't. It's two
different sides of.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
The braains, two different sides. So maybe A learned baking
and then we can teach each other.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I mean, I thought, that's a really empty threat. For sure.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
We haven't about to spend a lot of time together,
so I feel like we have opportunity.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
What are you gonna be baking on all the plane
trips were about to take? It's like, do you.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Guys have an oven?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Here?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
He's a plain oven.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We go down to the hotel kitchen to be like,
make some muffins.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Make some muffins for my colleagues.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Then she does this thing where like a lot of
it is about cooking and being in the kitchen. And
a lot of the guests she had over for this
season in particular, were like cooks right, like including like
Tan France, and like she had like chefs on. She
had a few chefs on Jay Shaddy and his wife Ridy,
Like he doesn't cook, and they said that, but she does,
so a lot of her guests know how to work
(15:56):
a kitchen, but then she makes them do like an
arts and craft Is it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
The Arts and Crafts moments where the guest bates are
a bit like this is just like a few times
they look at the camera like is this really happening?
Because a few Jay Shetty, who interviews billionaires on his podcast,
and see it's making soap and he looks so confused,
(16:21):
and he looked scared, and I would be scared too,
because again, soap making, I'm assuming like baking measurements and science.
And this man was like, I'm a podcast host. I
can give you inspirational pep talk. I can't make soap
and why would I want to do that? Yeah, Oh
it's so funny. And obviously they're there for the shows
and no one can say no. But with Christy they
had to make.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Flower jewelry, flower jewelry, which I don't think we saw
the end product of.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Oh no, you saw at the end. See this is
you were probably deep in the wine by now you're
pouring another class. Yeah, after Christie leaves, because they've got
a set for twenty four hours, I did information I
didn't know. I did want to that.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Chrissie's looked better than he mackins when they were doing
the flower pressing.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Potentially, yeah, she had an eye for it when they're
doing the flower pressing. The whole Chrissy Teagan episode was
so funny because she comes in, she's so excited, John
Legend looks afraid. Then John Legend leaves. Yeah, and hours
now live. An hours pass because these women, they cook,
they bake, they chat, they decorate, then they go and
make flower jewelry and then later on their back in
the kitchen and Chrissy Teagan has all of her kid's
(17:21):
birthdays tattooed on her arm because she can't remember a
million of well it's Lou, Yeah, Lunar, mile Stie and Wren.
But then she looks at her arm and her plan
has backfired because she can't read some of the dates
and smudgye and which I feel like, who did.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That for her?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Surely like a proper tattoo artist did Chrissy Teagan's arm.
And also she can't remember which birthday is assigned to
which child. So one stage, this is hours after they've arrived.
She panics and she goes John and John Legend pokes
his head out of some little room where He's obviously
just been sitting with his hands folded the whole time,
And I was like, has that man been here the
(17:59):
whole time? I've been doing writing songs. But he's sitting
in the in the little like in the pantry.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
He's working the camera.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Like Megan, I know you fight all your stuff. Let
me get big, let me do it. It's so funny.
But also when they're out making the flower jewelry, Megan
Minkle's describing all the different flowers and then she holds
up one flower to Christy Teagan and Chrissy Teagan mistakes
that flower for the name of one of Megan Michael's children.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
So let's pick which flowers we want to do it
for our children's birth months.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Okay, Miles is May, Miles is May sixteenth, and so
Miles and Archie were both Lily of the Valley. Yes,
And okay, Hansworth, this one what I was like, you're
my kid name? It's my child who never heard of this? Sorryworth?
(18:49):
By the way, if I could have kept a secret
like that, i'man impressive isn't that what flowers Hansworth hasw
This whole episode felt like a fever.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Dreyeah firstly because I'm like, if anything, you guys should
know each other the most because you've been on Deal
or No Deal together.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah. I loved them talking about that.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Anytime she talks about her work, I'm I keep going,
keep going.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, that's what people want to see.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And that's why polaroid photos.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, every time a polaroid photo came up of like
behind the scenes of their wedding or their lives, Like,
that's when I leaned in. And that's also why I
think people find this show so disappointing, is that they
tune in because they think they're going to get all
these details about Megan Markle, but it's really just her
making soap literally and.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You can like and she always like teasers where she
was like talking about h and I went on our
third date camping, and then you're like, oh, tell me more,
tell me more, and then she's like, back to my
capsule wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'm well, I actually loved how she brought that up,
but I wanted more of it because that was their
third date, which if you've read Prince Harry's book, he
talks about a lot in there, is that on their
third date. Yeah, spare out now, I'm ready for spect too.
Maybe I'll talk about that fourth date. I hope so
I would just read about their dates. Honestly, they're so funny.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I need someone who like is on YouTube to take
seasons of wit love Megan and then just put all
the juicy bits together, like anytime she talks about Harry,
all the polaroid photos, like the collages as she posted
in season one. I just want all of that in
one big, like thirty minute block.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, that's why the documentary about Harry and Meghan is
still the most watched like debut for a documentary on
Netflix of all time, Like it broke all these records
because people just want to see their life. Yeah, which
is what I would watch the shout of two, but
instead I'm just watching her making soap instead. We just
know how to cure a fitch. Yeah, I still don't know.
It was not following.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Did you see that crazy microwave she had, the one
that like pulls out really when they were baking together,
pouring my wine at that moment. No, when she was
doing like a baking thing she has like well it's
obviously not her house, but like she's obviously really into
baking because instead of like melting butter in the normal microwave.
She has this pull out draw and she just puts
(21:03):
everything in the drawer, closes it and then it does something.
Oh yeah, and it's all melted and warm.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Is a microwave just for melting butter?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I don't know those things exist.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Like that's how poor we are? We are, girls, Like,
what is this contraction? My mind? Blank? I saw her
poor drawer out and it had cooked. But I was
like something in my mind was like, we don't even,
we can't even.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
It was like a draw microwave And I even tried
to Google it, and even my Google wouldn't give me
the results because it just knew I could not affords.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Like, girl, no, you're waiting for me.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Let me just work your already existing oven.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Fine, we're home to My fifty only came out microwave
for me, Like, were'ts a butter tray?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
It's like these little things that they insert in the show.
That's the lens that I feel like that she hasn't
been able to work out of. It's like there are
so many little things that are for the ultra ultra
rich that I'm like fixated on because I've never seen
something that my life, and for them it's just like
a oh and then we have this thing. And I
remember this from season one when she was talking about
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her outfits and she was like, she was like, and
I have like these lime A pants and a Zara shirt.
So I like to do a bit of high and low.
And I'm like, which.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
One's the Yeah, You're like, they're actually both. I think
a Zara was meant to be the low, but the
Zara was probably a couple of hundred dollars. You're like,
that's a splurge for me, Sarah, Hello, Well exactly. I
feel like in this season she's leaning a bit more
into being a little bit more decadent, although every so
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often she does say like I buy this fancy product,
you could buy something similar for cheaper on the internet.
No further details. You guys put the internet right. You
can google cheat candles And I was like, I can
make and I can't thank you for that. Thank you
for telling me to google. But yeah. She's given only
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a couple of interviews around this release, and in one
interview I did hear her say that she has come
to the point now where she's like, no matter what
I wear what I say, what I do, people are
going to find fault with me, and I just can't
care about that, which is so true, so true, no
matter what. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I don't know if she
really believes that, because in my heart I would be.
(23:10):
But I also don't want people to hate me. But
there's literally nothing she can do.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
She can't do anything, which is why she's leaning so
hard into this, and which is also why I think
they were confident in filming the back to back because
she's like, no matter how much hate I go from
season one, like there's literally no point, Like you can't
apply everything.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah. I do think she comes across well in it.
My only kind of thought is like she's very likable.
She is so likable. I both want to hang out
with her all the time, and I'm scared of her.
I'm scared of her in a way that my life
doesn't match up to hers, because I'm so envious of
when those guests arrive and she's got the gifts and
she's so inviting and kind, and she's so warm, and
she's made them all a special drink, and then she
makes them a special food and then she and she
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really looks in people's eyes and asks them and she
seems really fascinated by what they say. Like I just
think she would be a joy to be around, but
I also feel like she would just judge me without
meaning to. She'd be like, oh, you had a coke?
Is it a birthday party? Like do you know that's
gonna kill you? Right? Or when she was packing her
bag to go on that trip with her friend and
she was like, so you just go and take these
like special sheets that you have in the laundry and
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you fold them up in your own pillowcase and you
put them through your bag, just the stuff you already
have at home. And I'm like, I don't have perfumed
laundry sheets.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Do you? Someone gave me one for my birth.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
A perfumed laundry sheet, But she has a pack of them.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Crazy, and like even like the little cases she puts
like her shoes, Like that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
She does like little things.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
In her head is like so normal and mundane, And
for me, I'm like, rewind, what was that shu case?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
What was what?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Like?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Where did you get those things from? I don't have
any powdered sheets in my laundry. I just use laundry
pillow case. Yeah, well I have that, and I do
take my own pillows. I take my own pillow case
with me when we're about to do all our trips.
Coming up, you'll see me with my little pillowcase away. Yeah,
I'm not putting my head on a pillowcase from a hotel.
Why because other people have put their heads in, but
they wash them. Megan markl and I.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Know, do you know that the one about I take
the hotel pillow cases and then make them my own.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay, okay, that's straight up theft. There was one moment
where I related to Megan Markles, so I did start
to think that we could be the same person. Well,
and it wasn't when she was cooking or making anything
fancy or anything like that, because I just don't have
that natural hostess element in me. Actually, there were two moments.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You do that you're a hostess to a point.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I like to host myself. Yeah, I do it my
living room with my flowers and candles, with my little
snacks and my wine, and I like we like making
things look nice. I just what she liked. Yes, when
she put the raspberry sawbet with the champagne in it,
and had that. I was like, I do do that
at home sometimes.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Whereas I would have just had the champagne by itself
and then eating the raspberries.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Really, okay, you've got to I will make that few
one day. It's really really nice. Okay, I've got those
same glasses too. It's all in how you present it,
that's true. But there was two moments. One in the
first episode where one of the women I can't even
think of her name said to Meghan Markle, oh, I
don't really like flowers. And it's the only time I've
seen just discussed in Meghan Markle's face.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Oh it.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
It was the lady who owns Milk Bar and she's
like a well renowned like pastry dessert chair and yeah,
she was like, this is why, Meghan, you have too.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Massive so who doesn't like flowers, but like you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Can't bring a massive chef put them in the kitchen
and be like, now we're going to go do flower
arrangement and I'm going to teach you.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And flower arranging is hard.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It's as like chefs, because I'm so sorry to chefs
out there, but I do have a bone to pick
with you.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Okay, Jesus, you're sharing with this one. I love chefs.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
The chefs I know are so particular in being perfect
that when you put them into an environment where they
can't be perfect and they have to learn in front
of other people, they freak out. These are the chefs
I know, the chefs I've experienced.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
No, I would say that's the true thing, because it
is you have to be perfect in doing it. You
can't just be like, oh, this is fine because you're
sending fruit, especially these like creep top tier Michelin Star
kind of chefs that she's.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Working and the chef she brought on and were very competitive, yeah,
and they wanted to win the flower arrangement contest.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And then this woman's like, I don't really like flowers.
You just see it's the one time Megan Markle's mask
kind of fell and she was like what And so
I really related to her arrangement.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I could tell she didn't like flowers.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
She's a bunch of weeds. She was like, oh, this
is fine, and they had all the flowers, was playing,
She's like picking up grass from the guard. And then
at one stage when she was cooking, she's like, oh,
I did just go outside and redo my flower age,
like Meghan the best. Yeah, of course he's.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Really She definitely practiced that like days before her.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So that was the one time I related to her.
The other time is when she was saying that when
she's really nervous, especially when she was a working actress
and auditioning, she always used to get like a big red,
stressed neck, like a whole neck, so she got red
and pot chi and so she had to go to
every event in eternal neck. And if you look at
all my interviews, every big interview I do, I'm wearing
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a really high neck because I also get a spotchy neck.
My friends call it a hiky neck, like my whole
neck just breaks out in like I hope, like, hey girl,
I get you.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I remember that because it was so funny, Like I
feel like it's one of those moments where you want
to be friends with someone so so badly that you
just agree with everything they say. And I feel like
that's chrissy to Megan. Megan's like I get a huge
rash on my neck, and because it's like, yes, same,
I was like, I.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Don't know, girl, neck looks pretty good right now. I'm
not saying for watches.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It's like, I'm really tired. Yes, same, I'm also really tired.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
So that's when I loved her. Now to when I
got mad at her. It was Tanned from Queeri and
they were doing the cooking and everything was really cute.
I like did too. And my favorite point when he
kind of looked at her when she was doing the
blast bits of the cooking and he was like, what
are those things that you're sprinkling on there? And she's like, oh,
dry flowers and love them. And she's like just putting
handfuls of dried flowers on anything. Anything in that kitchen
(28:40):
that's around just gets dried flowers floated. Ever seen But No,
it was when they were doing their arts and crafts,
so she was like, let's do aprons for your two kids.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
And I know where you're going with this.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Like she went from doing this beautiful silk screening on
scarves that looked so beautiful and artistic, and I was like,
oh my god, I could never like And I was
thinking to myself, she's really clever. She really knows what
she's doing. Sometimes when you see her do her caligraphy
and stuff, like, this woman has proper skills that I
could never imagine having. And then she went from that,
she went from such a high height to such a
low low because then she got out these aprons and
(29:16):
she took a big chunk of celery, cut the top
off it, took the celery head, dunked it in some paint,
and then put it on the apron and then looked
at ten France from queer Eye, who's like no one
for like being able to create incredible things, and goes
and he's like a fashion I he knows everything about
everything of fashion. And then she like dunks the painted
(29:36):
celery it off and it leaves a big clump of paint,
and she looks at him and goes, see what we
can create? And I was like what. And then she
they were getting other vegetables and he's like, I'm gonna
try it with the lime and gets the lime and
the paint puts it and I was like, so this
is what I did in kindergarten. And even when I
was in kindergarten, I looked down and was like, this
is beneath me, like taking fruit and vegetables and putting
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it off.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Also, fruit and vegetables are quite expense. When she started
cutting that celery. I was like, Oh, I wonder what
they're going to cook in here, and then I said
dunking the vegetables and paint and I was like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
You're like, I hope you washed that off and ate
it up towards economy. And also, the aprons are horrible.
I was gonna say they look fine, but you're right,
they did look roriable. You know myself was the worst
thing is that he's got these two young kids and
he says that he has to go away for work
a lot of the time, and his kids get really
upset and when they come back, they go to his
husband more so, his kids get really upset when he's
(30:29):
away for work. And then Megan kind of insinuates that, like, oh,
well you're away now filming this, like this is work,
but you get to take these aprons back. And I
was like, those aprons are so ugly. They are not
worth his kids loving him.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Like, no, TAM's gonna like be burning them on the
way across the Biro.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Without a Santa Monica and like threw them out the
window and they went they just flew over a cliff.
Because I was like, this man is literally is that
a salary. He's literally like, oh, when I leave my kids,
they love me less. And she was like, well, these
aprons will make up for it.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I felt like a little bit protective of Meghan Markle
as I was watching this show. Is that she comes
across lovely and then she also comes across insane. And
I think the insane part comes from the editing in
a way, because do you remember the part where they
were making those little crack of cheese things and they
brawled them out the oven and then she was like,
do you guys want some? And the camera panned around
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and there was about fifteen people in the room, so
many people with cameras, so many producers, And they obviously
do show her talking back and forth to the camera
people throughout the show, like they break that fourth wall.
But at the same time, that was the first time
I saw just how many people in the room and
they were all laughing and chatting. And that's when I
realized that because sometimes when she looks crazy, it looks
like she's in a room by herself when she doesn't
(31:47):
have her guest. She's doing all that cooking and prepping
and stuff, and she's just talking and she looks like
she's room by herself, and she keeps laughing and looking
down and laughing in but nothing funny has happened. Ye,
nothing remotely interesting has happened. So she looks crazy that
she's in a kitchen. It looks like she's laughing at herself,
saying I like to put lemon on things. Ha ha,
Like that's a crazy person's act. But then I realized
(32:09):
that there's so much has been cut out that she's
Everyone in the room is laughing at something, a conversation,
and she's joining in that conversation, but that's not being shown. No. Yeah,
and she does the editing. She has said that she
goes through the notes, she does the editing, she does
the cuts. So but I just feel like someone needs
to come in and be like, hey, you look crazy,
And you don't have to because you're laughing with fifteen
other people in the room. And you know what it's
(32:29):
like when you're on those shoot days, and you know
when we go and do the projects and stuff, like
you with these people all day, you do get a
little hysterical. You have in jokes, things are funny, but
we're just not seeing that.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, and it's so hard even when you're the one
editing yeah, because you know the context yeah, and that
gets muddled, like you can't see in the fresh eyes,
which is why like we never heard it. Yeah, allowed,
But I do I do agree with that, and I
wish to that in some of those like takes where
she is by herself and prepping for the guests, I
wish they pulled someone from the crew to be with her, yeah,
(33:01):
because I think that would have been so fun to
watch her interact with the normal person.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I do think sometimes I say this with love in
my heart, because all of these people are so talented
that it's okay that they're not TV personalities. But often
she would have a really well known chef or someone
on with her, and because they're not naturals in front
of the camera, she's having to do all the heavy lifting,
like chatting and trying to be funny, and it's just
not working. I feel like she's like Mindy kayling with
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her every episode or somewhat something like that.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Oh my god, I imagine if she had Mindy can
that would be incredible.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I would watch She's just something like that to kind
of heighten it, because I mean, Megan Michael's very sweet,
but she's she's not funny. She's not funny intentionally, so
it kind of I feel like that's where it kind
of peaks because.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
She's trying to figure out I think also what type
of show she wants it to be. Yeah, and like
you said, if it's a guest who's like a chef
or someone who isn't like media facing, she has to
do the heavy lifting and be all the personality. Yeah,
but when she has Mindy Kayling or like Christy Tigg
and like, she can take a step back.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And kind of bounce off them, and especially people that.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
She's actually friends with that she knows, you did, knows
how they will act in front.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Of a camera exactly. Again, as you were saying before,
there's some little tippits of her life when she talks.
But the fact that on their third date they went
camping in Botswana. Can you imagine that you're in love
with a guy, you think you're going to marry, and
then you go and spend five days together in a tent.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I like camping, but not with someone I'm dating. No,
and not also in Botswana. It's like beautiful, but it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Crazy, and like third date I'd been like, I'm getting
murdered by a prince.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
What a way to go. But also every time they
gave little tibbitts of their wedding, like I hadn't seen
those wedding place cards before, like the table settings or even.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Saying how like the menu had all like little bits
of like where all the food came from, and I
was just imagined the Queen just.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Reading reading The Queen since down and goes to Prince Philip,
like there's a map on our table showing where all
the food is from, and they just like get us
out of here. But then like they invented like a
special type of like michelin sta fried chicken to serve
with the after party, and it looks so good, and
I was like, this is the information I want, Like
what food did you serve at the after part of
your wedding? I don't even want to know why you
hate the Royals, although I want to know that as well,
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but I also just want all this behind the.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Queen eat fried chicken.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, she had did to queen eat the fried chicken bites?
What did she call them? The late night bite? The
late night by its tried chicken. Yeah, so good.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
No, I don't. I think the Queen would have tapped
out before the after party.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. So that is with Love
Megan season two.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
What a rollic.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I'm going to say, we're not getting a third season. Well,
I think she'll do something else with Netflix, but it
won't be their But again, I know they don't want
to film it, but I just want a documentary of
her life. I actually loved her, like packing her suitcase,
jumping in her car, driving herself to LA having like
that girl. I like that. Or when she's out on
the boat see though.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, the girl's week in away when she was like
packing the baseball cap and she was like, I made
this on my husband's forty. There's like a Joe Yeah,
and it was like the initials on the cap was
pH for Prince Harry.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah. I loved that. That was so good. She was like,
I have so many of these and I wear them
all the time. My god, I love it.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Like in that way, I was like, oh, you're taking
the piss.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Did you think there was like a message to the
royal fans.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, as I like, I'm taking the piss because like
we call them Prince Harry at home, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, I love that. And even when she's out on
the boat with the sea urchins and all that sort
of stuff, like where she tried to like cook seafood.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Oh, I genuinely thought she was gonna faint at the lobsters.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
She's like, I'm okay with a fish and he was
just like, you crack this lobster and then you pull
its head off, and she was like.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
He was like and look the lobsters saying Megan, Megan, please,
I need to be eaten. That's not mean when you've
got a really good co host with you, because that
Hi was just like going for god, oh my god.
He did not care that, and he was marriting.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
The lobster's death to her, and she was she was
so panicking. She's like, oh, I'm just a bit hot.
I'm gonna take my cardiget off and like leaves the
shot like, no, Megan, come back. You're gonna eat the lobster.
You need to watch it die. That's the rules.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And he's like, can we eat the urchins? Like reproductive
system and Meghan's like, I think we're going to cut
that out and he's like, oh, sorry, not reproductive.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Have you had a sea urchin? They're really good.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
It is the best thing I've ever put in my mouth.
Me too, It's so good, so good. So why would
get to see urchin tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Maybe like in the city of Yeah, we both look.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Close to the fish markets.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Okay, let's do that.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Because it's really expensive as well. I can't take twenty five.
I'm like, God, no Netflix got a budget for this.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I was just thinking cause o last episode where she
is cooking for the crew.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Just imagining me being there, Like I would have been
ignoring the heaving paler on my plan. Yeah, like running
to the like taking a full lobster, smashing it into
my play.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Like. This is why I think she just hasn't found
her audience, because the people watching it are the people
who want the Megan Markele Intel And I actually think
people who just like cooking and lifestyle shows. I mean,
obviously there's better ones out there, but it does feel
like that's the market she's going into. Like when she's
on the boat, when she's with the person who's explaining
how they got the sea urchins and what they do,
and I'm like, this is super interesting. But I also
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feel like we just don't consume content in a Netflix
sense like that, Like it felt like you should be
TikTok videos, like if she put these up as little
TikTok videos of like here's how I do the fruit art,
here's how you do with the flower arranging, Here's how
you cut open a sea urchin, like people watch the
shit out of that.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
She needs to get back together with Gweno Paltrow. Yeah,
and to be like, hey, I need to get some
lead magnets off you. I need to steal some of
your audience. That's the audience she needs, Yes, like the
people who genuinely follow Goop, not Gwyneth Paltrow. She needs
that the Goop followers.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
That's so true. Well, that's our business advice to Meghan market.
We'll plan for your megane right, We'll send it through
more packing, less art with vegetables. So that is our review.
I brilliant a review with love Megan.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
I think it's much nicer than our first review from
season one.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, I think we've come around. Yeah, we've come around.
But also like I think the first one was maybe
just a shop to our system because we just weren't
expecting some of the things that happened, but this one
was quite a nice watch, pleasant watch, pleasant watch. We
watched it so you don't have to, so there we go.
But it is on Netflix now if you do want
to watch it.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
If you do, don't have to, Dare thank you so
much for listening to this episode of the Spill. Do
not forget to follow this spill on TikTok. This episode
was produced by Niche Swirren with sound production by Scott Stronik.
And we'll be back here on your podcast feed for
a week and watch at six am tomorrow and another
episode of the Spill. Bye bye, Love
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Part two. I said, I almost did like the little
friend I thought I was in season six Sex and City,
as I wish I was there. I love the idea
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of spending time together and finding new ways to show
with people you care.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Look at that, Oh my gosh, I could do this
every day.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Let's get creative and you learn something new, nice and done.
I don't know what's happening. I'm so glad you came
to show me how to do this. It's working. They's
like getting out of your comfort zone. I have no
idea where to start. Everybody should have one of those
homes threes you think. So, this is one of the
most joyful days. So comforted, very comforting. After what I
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want to make are things I want to share. This
looks fantastic. There are easy ways to show up lovingly.
She has given me a goose bumps.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
That is so lovely.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
That's delicious.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
We also did a briutly honest review of season one,
so if you haven't listened to that, we will link
it in our show notes, because I think that was
one of my favorite brittley honest reviews. Because I was
a bit delirious because I remember watching all eight episodes
back to back. I felt like the episodes and season
one were a bit longer, like they were more around
the forty minute mark. And I just came into the
(02:58):
office after watching the last episode going I'm ready, I'm
ready to write you were.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
When we do a brially honest review, which are episodes
that we talk about the biggest TV shows and movies
have been released, and normally this is the part of
the show where I'd say, if you haven't watched it,
all gold and watch it because we're going to go
deep on spoilers. However, there are no spoilers with this.
If you haven't watched it, that's fine. Imagine if they
had like a full plot twist. Well that's what I
(03:24):
thought when you said this morning, I hadn't watched the
last fifteen minutes the last episode. I was like, imagine
if I was like, oh my god, things go off
the rails. They didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's a very much a home lifestyle warm friendly. It's
like a show you put on in the background while
you do something else.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I mean, to an extent, it wouldn't be my choice
of a background show. But yes, with Love Megan Season
one came out a few months ago, and as soon
as it finished, Meghan Markle herself let us know. I
know she's Megan Sussex now, but for all times sakes,
I'll call her Megan marked Miny Kayling.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We'll be like, hey, no one call her Megan Markle.
Don't make my mistake.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Mindy Kayling's not watching the season because she's like, I
can't revisit the trauma of sitting in that hot house
and making a tea party and they being publicly called
on the internet for months on it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I was actually thinking about that episode in particular while
watching the season two. Sorry to segue, but like, this
season is I feel like way more educational in the
way that she's teaching like her friends to do things,
And it felt like that episode of Mindy Kaaling was
more like, here's something you can do with your kids.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, And I was like, then why is Mindy there grandkids?
Because Mindy was like, I pay people to do this.
I don't do it myself because I'm super busy and
I run a huge production.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Every other episode like, it's like these adults learning things
that they could do as adults.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And for Mindy it was just like, here's something you
can do for your kids. She was like, no thanks,
Which is interesting because that's what Megan Michael came in
and said after the season one aired, is that they
had filmed it all in one go. Yes, so season
two was locked and loaded.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
So there's no learnings, no feedback.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
There was no time to go back and reshuffle things
and redo things. What they filmed is what they had.
So you and I have watched. I watched all in
one night. I think he watched it across two nights.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I started, I did four episodes it's last night and
four episodes this morning.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
A healthy way to do it, I was. I can't
even describe this date I was in by the time,
I did eight hours in one night after working a
full day in this office of Megan Michael's new show.
But take me through your thought journey of watching it.
What was your experience like.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So I had half a bottle of wine I.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Did do you can't watch that so much? And if
you're not drinking, but like, we couldn't watch it.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
So we also have a massive work project coming up,
So I was in that mindset of like working on
that project while also trying to watch and enjoy. Yeah
with love Megan, I have to pause there. Yeah, there
is a comma, so you have to pause. And so
I had half a bottle of wine in the first
two and a half episodes. I was like, you know what,
I think this might.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Be my favorite show of the year. Really.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I loved it so much.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
In the first episode, correct, okay, well it is. I
came full kind of.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I was really into it. I had so much fun,
and then like I started to sober up and I
was like, oh, this is just this is just the
exact same thing that we watched, so things like same
thing we watched last season. Yeah, But because I knew
that they filmed it back to back and it was
like this big multimillion dollar deal that they had with Netflix,
that's the reason she had to do this show in
(06:21):
the first place.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I went in being a bit.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
More kinder towards what I was going to experience. So
because I knew it wasn't going to be different from
season one, it was literally going to be the same thing.
So I went in and I feel like my outtake
from this season is much more She's just doing what
she wants to do. I'm going to leave her alone.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Well that's my thing. A lot of people hate watched it. Well, actually,
as we know, a lot of people didn't watch it
all because it was number three hundred on Netflix. In
saying that though it had over five million views, it's
just that Netflix numbers are so huge. On network television
that would be like the biggest show of the year.
So it's not that people didn't watch it, it's just
that it didn't crack the Netflix like top thirty.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I want to know, like all the shows that cracked
the top thirty that didn't get the multimillion dollar deal
going yeah, hey, where's our money.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well that's the thing too, is like there's been this
big song and dance about Meghan and Harry having this
one hundred million dollar deal with Netflix and the fact
that it expires in September of this year, so it's
expired now and they won't be renewing it. And I
think that's been painted as a bit of our like
Megan and Harry are failures Netflix doesn't want anything to
do with them. But it's more so that Netflix is
cutting all of those big long term content deals and
(07:32):
doing project by project, which a lot of media companies
are doing at the moment because the Obama's also had
their deal ended, and that's not making headlines. But they're
just like, we're not in the business of now giving
people a huge lump sum of cash and just seeing
what they make and green lighting projects. It's like, you
bring us a project we want, We're going to buy it.
So Meghan and Harry are still working with Netflix, right, Okay.
I mean, I don't know why I've become their defender,
(07:53):
but I'm a defender of truth that.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Before we get into it, I do want to point
out the biggest issue when it comes to filming back
to back. The worst thing, okay that can happen when
you're filming a show back to back is if your
dog dies.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
No.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I know, I know, Guy the Beagle, but it's good
because otherwise then we saw a little bit of MoMA Mia.
Yeah yeah, ah, oh my god, because I grew up
with beagles and when I saw a guy there, knowing
that guy's not with us anymore, and he's still such
a main character, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
They can't edit him out. That's his final like role,
his final big role.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And then like Christy, Teagan sees him and she's like,
who's this and Meghan's like, it's Guy, and Chrisy's like,
I love how he's just chilling and Megan's like, yeah,
he's an old man, and I was like, Christy, you
have no idea? What's about?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
What happened? Did you see that? The day that With
Love Meghan season two came out, Meghan Markle shared on
her Instagram stories, So she did this video of her
walking into her beautiful kitchen, like her real life kitchen.
So she's a film there and little Lilla Bette is
there and she runs past in her pajamas and she
said that Prince Harry had given her this gift and
it's a huge, huge, blown up black and white photo
(09:03):
of her and Guy. So he must have known. Prince
Harry h as she calls him, must have known that
it would be a really traumatic day because the show
was coming out and guys in it, and he passed away,
So he gifted her this big black and white portrait
of Guy to be like he's still here.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh my god. It was just really really sad. It
was like, that was my plot twist and the show. Okay,
the first scene of Guy, I was like, it's Guy.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
No, I forgot I forgot, yes, So that's because they
fill him back to back, so guys in the whole thing,
and then he passed away. I kind of thought of that,
but that's so true. So We Love Megan. Part two
follows a similar kind of flow to the first series,
which is some celebrity guests, some friends of Megan Markle
(09:45):
and some people she's never met, come in and out
of this house that they've rented, which people are really
upset about. But of course they've rented a house. What
are they going to do put up a TV set
for weeks in her own home where her children are.
She actually never said I loved how people thought they
were being detectives. They're like, I've discovered it's on her
real house, and it was like, I do think that
wasn't being hidden.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
No, I mean I did write an article about it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay, you discovered it, I discovered or fun. I think
it was fun to point out, but I just don't
think it was the big kind of like we've got
you moments.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
It was more funny in the way that the whole
show is about being a hostess and creating a home
and building your home. And she's like opening these drawers
and going in the pantry as if she lives there,
when she definitely does.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
She definitely doesn't. That's so true. But yes, but I
think I think in the second season we have moved on.
We have moved on. At least it's the same house
that's the first season. Yeah, no, exactly. So it's the
same house. So guests come in and out, and she
either cooks with them, prepares things with them, or teaches
them little home craft tricks.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And or she'll have like a jump card where she
does something before they get there. Yeah, and she's in
like a different outfit on a different day.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Those week moments were raping the.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Honey for the bees, like oh my god, the scarves,
making the scarves from scratch.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
That was the point where and we're not going to
go in order here, mostly because I feel like most
of you guys haven't watched this show, so you won't
be like, hey, that happened in episode five. But also
so there's like no spoilers, So each episode stood at
the whole thing is like a fever dream. I went
through so many watching this. At first I was like
I poured my wine. I'm like, oh, hey, here we go.
She is just so beautiful and comforting to watch on
TV is a big thing. So she came on TV
(11:17):
and I was like, here we go. This is fun.
And then I went through so many emotions. I went
through like sadness for her. Then I went through liking her.
Then I was and completely enraged at one moment, which
we'll get to, and then I went back through acceptance.
And then I went like career plotting for her in
my head of where she should like go next with
her life and what she could do, and that was
such a pip And then at the end I felt
(11:39):
like like kind of joy for her. So I went
through the gambit of emotions over eight hours, Like, seriously.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I want to know what made you rage? But first,
but first I want to talk about Christy Tagan. Yes, okay,
So this was the second episode, Christy Tagan comes over.
John Legend is also over. We escorts Chrissy Tagan, which
was I guess the one jump scare that we had
because he wasn't meant to be there even maybe it
was like I don't know you were here. Hate isn't here.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Not everything's good, thank you little fool up here.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It was a weird moment of going like, why are
you here? My husband's and he does in that moment,
internationally renound best selling artist John Legend does look like
like a handbag man, like he's just been kind of
wrought and dropped off and he doesn't know what to do.
He's looking at the cameras, he doesn't know if he's
been filmed or not. He's just he's very nervous.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
He's very very nervous. So Megan and Christy are like cooking.
This is something that I feel like Chrissy take and
should not have done.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Really.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
The thing about Christy Teagan is like, this is what
she was known for for a really long time, is
that she would do those cooking videos at home with
her and her mum, and she was like building this
whole franchise around that, and she would film all day
on Instagram these moments of her life and her kitchen
and cooking tips, and that whole thing blew up with
her bullying Courtney stott In and step away from that
(13:14):
brand that she had built with Chris Jenna, and step
away from what she was doing, and she doesn't post.
I mean, she's got four kids now, she had like only.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Lot or two old kids and four dogs.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, and then a busy lady. But I think also
like that whole relatable I'm in my kitchen thing kind
of died when a scandal happened.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Okay, that's good to know because I knew that she
had a lot of cookbooks that everyone became obsessed with it.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, she's althoughed a lot of cookbooks.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But then it came to measuring ingredients, and then she
had to put three hundred grams of flour into a cup. Yeah,
and she kind of like did like a bit of
a sprinkle, like a pinch of salt. Yeah, and then
she was like I don't know how much three hundred
grams is And you can even see like Megan like
immediately her face was like she thought she was joking.
She was like, oh, and then did she immediately changed
(13:58):
her friend? She was like, oh, it's a bit more.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, it's like quite a bit more.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I was like, I thought this woman was like a.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Chef no, she is a chef, not making me defend
these women. But cooking and baking are two very different things,
and baking is a very hard skill, a different skill.
It's more. And Meghan says this in one of.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Her episodes, cooking is baking a science?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yes, And I really feel that in my bones because
it is just not going to die, that is exactly.
And also who amongst us is? That's why when I
tried to teach you to cook in the past, I've said.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
That is a fair point because I don't do either.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Don't do it. So that's why I can see the
TV with my wine and my Ubi. It's going, can't you? Meanwhile,
you can't even turn your own.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Meanwhile, I don't own a measurement car or flower.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You don't flower flower because you can put it over. Okay,
we can't. I've been trying to the backstory here is
I've been trying to teach Emily to cook for years.
More than that, I've been trying to teach you how
to grocery shop and then cook the basic items you buy.
And we haven't got there. And it's fine, You're perfect,
You're good at other things.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
That's really kind, Thank you. So much.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But when she said that, like I don't know the
measurements and stuff, I felt that in my bones because
I'm a really good cook, but I can't. It's two
different sides of.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
The braains, two different sides. So maybe A learned baking
and then we can teach each other.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I mean, I thought, that's a really empty threat. For sure.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
We haven't about to spend a lot of time together,
so I feel like we have opportunity.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
What are you gonna be baking on all the plane
trips were about to take? It's like, do you.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Guys have an oven?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Here?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
He's a plain oven.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We go down to the hotel kitchen to be like,
make some muffins.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Make some muffins for my colleagues.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Then she does this thing where like a lot of
it is about cooking and being in the kitchen. And
a lot of the guests she had over for this
season in particular, were like cooks right, like including like
Tan France, and like she had like chefs on. She
had a few chefs on Jay Shaddy and his wife Ridy,
Like he doesn't cook, and they said that, but she does,
so a lot of her guests know how to work
(15:56):
a kitchen, but then she makes them do like an
arts and craft Is it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
The Arts and Crafts moments where the guest bates are
a bit like this is just like a few times
they look at the camera like is this really happening?
Because a few Jay Shetty, who interviews billionaires on his podcast,
and see it's making soap and he looks so confused,
(16:21):
and he looked scared, and I would be scared too,
because again, soap making, I'm assuming like baking measurements and science.
And this man was like, I'm a podcast host. I
can give you inspirational pep talk. I can't make soap
and why would I want to do that? Yeah, Oh
it's so funny. And obviously they're there for the shows
and no one can say no. But with Christy they
had to make.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Flower jewelry, flower jewelry, which I don't think we saw
the end product of.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Oh no, you saw at the end. See this is
you were probably deep in the wine by now you're
pouring another class. Yeah, after Christie leaves, because they've got
a set for twenty four hours, I did information I
didn't know. I did want to that.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Chrissie's looked better than he mackins when they were doing
the flower pressing.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Potentially, yeah, she had an eye for it when they're
doing the flower pressing. The whole Chrissy Teagan episode was
so funny because she comes in, she's so excited, John
Legend looks afraid. Then John Legend leaves. Yeah, and hours
now live. An hours pass because these women, they cook,
they bake, they chat, they decorate, then they go and
make flower jewelry and then later on their back in
the kitchen and Chrissy Teagan has all of her kid's
(17:21):
birthdays tattooed on her arm because she can't remember a
million of well it's Lou, Yeah, Lunar, mile Stie and Wren.
But then she looks at her arm and her plan
has backfired because she can't read some of the dates
and smudgye and which I feel like, who did.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That for her?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Surely like a proper tattoo artist did Chrissy Teagan's arm.
And also she can't remember which birthday is assigned to
which child. So one stage, this is hours after they've arrived.
She panics and she goes John and John Legend pokes
his head out of some little room where He's obviously
just been sitting with his hands folded the whole time,
And I was like, has that man been here the
(17:59):
whole time? I've been doing writing songs. But he's sitting
in the in the little like in the pantry.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
He's working the camera.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Like Megan, I know you fight all your stuff. Let
me get big, let me do it. It's so funny.
But also when they're out making the flower jewelry, Megan
Minkle's describing all the different flowers and then she holds
up one flower to Christy Teagan and Chrissy Teagan mistakes
that flower for the name of one of Megan Michael's children.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
So let's pick which flowers we want to do it
for our children's birth months.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Okay, Miles is May, Miles is May sixteenth, and so
Miles and Archie were both Lily of the Valley. Yes,
And okay, Hansworth, this one what I was like, you're
my kid name? It's my child who never heard of this? Sorryworth?
(18:49):
By the way, if I could have kept a secret
like that, i'man impressive isn't that what flowers Hansworth hasw
This whole episode felt like a fever.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Dreyeah firstly because I'm like, if anything, you guys should
know each other the most because you've been on Deal
or No Deal together.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah. I loved them talking about that.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Anytime she talks about her work, I'm I keep going,
keep going.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, that's what people want to see.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And that's why polaroid photos.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, every time a polaroid photo came up of like
behind the scenes of their wedding or their lives, Like,
that's when I leaned in. And that's also why I
think people find this show so disappointing, is that they
tune in because they think they're going to get all
these details about Megan Markle, but it's really just her
making soap literally and.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You can like and she always like teasers where she
was like talking about h and I went on our
third date camping, and then you're like, oh, tell me more,
tell me more, and then she's like, back to my
capsule wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'm well, I actually loved how she brought that up,
but I wanted more of it because that was their
third date, which if you've read Prince Harry's book, he
talks about a lot in there, is that on their
third date. Yeah, spare out now, I'm ready for spect too.
Maybe I'll talk about that fourth date. I hope so
I would just read about their dates. Honestly, they're so funny.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I need someone who like is on YouTube to take
seasons of wit love Megan and then just put all
the juicy bits together, like anytime she talks about Harry,
all the polaroid photos, like the collages as she posted
in season one. I just want all of that in
one big, like thirty minute block.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, that's why the documentary about Harry and Meghan is
still the most watched like debut for a documentary on
Netflix of all time, Like it broke all these records
because people just want to see their life. Yeah, which
is what I would watch the shout of two, but
instead I'm just watching her making soap instead. We just
know how to cure a fitch. Yeah, I still don't know.
It was not following.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Did you see that crazy microwave she had, the one
that like pulls out really when they were baking together,
pouring my wine at that moment. No, when she was
doing like a baking thing she has like well it's
obviously not her house, but like she's obviously really into
baking because instead of like melting butter in the normal microwave.
She has this pull out draw and she just puts
(21:03):
everything in the drawer, closes it and then it does something.
Oh yeah, and it's all melted and warm.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Is a microwave just for melting butter?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I don't know those things exist.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Like that's how poor we are? We are, girls, Like,
what is this contraction? My mind? Blank? I saw her
poor drawer out and it had cooked. But I was
like something in my mind was like, we don't even,
we can't even.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
It was like a draw microwave And I even tried
to Google it, and even my Google wouldn't give me
the results because it just knew I could not affords.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Like, girl, no, you're waiting for me.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Let me just work your already existing oven.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Fine, we're home to My fifty only came out microwave
for me, Like, were'ts a butter tray?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
It's like these little things that they insert in the show.
That's the lens that I feel like that she hasn't
been able to work out of. It's like there are
so many little things that are for the ultra ultra
rich that I'm like fixated on because I've never seen
something that my life, and for them it's just like
a oh and then we have this thing. And I
remember this from season one when she was talking about
(22:01):
her outfits and she was like, she was like, and
I have like these lime A pants and a Zara shirt.
So I like to do a bit of high and low.
And I'm like, which.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
One's the Yeah, You're like, they're actually both. I think
a Zara was meant to be the low, but the
Zara was probably a couple of hundred dollars. You're like,
that's a splurge for me, Sarah, Hello, Well exactly. I
feel like in this season she's leaning a bit more
into being a little bit more decadent, although every so
(22:29):
often she does say like I buy this fancy product,
you could buy something similar for cheaper on the internet.
No further details. You guys put the internet right. You
can google cheat candles And I was like, I can
make and I can't thank you for that. Thank you
for telling me to google. But yeah. She's given only
(22:50):
a couple of interviews around this release, and in one
interview I did hear her say that she has come
to the point now where she's like, no matter what
I wear what I say, what I do, people are
going to find fault with me, and I just can't
care about that, which is so true, so true, no
matter what. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I don't know if she
really believes that, because in my heart I would be.
(23:10):
But I also don't want people to hate me. But
there's literally nothing she can do.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
She can't do anything, which is why she's leaning so
hard into this, and which is also why I think
they were confident in filming the back to back because
she's like, no matter how much hate I go from
season one, like there's literally no point, Like you can't
apply everything.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah. I do think she comes across well in it.
My only kind of thought is like she's very likable.
She is so likable. I both want to hang out
with her all the time, and I'm scared of her.
I'm scared of her in a way that my life
doesn't match up to hers, because I'm so envious of
when those guests arrive and she's got the gifts and
she's so inviting and kind, and she's so warm, and
she's made them all a special drink, and then she
makes them a special food and then she and she
(23:50):
really looks in people's eyes and asks them and she
seems really fascinated by what they say. Like I just
think she would be a joy to be around, but
I also feel like she would just judge me without
meaning to. She'd be like, oh, you had a coke?
Is it a birthday party? Like do you know that's
gonna kill you? Right? Or when she was packing her
bag to go on that trip with her friend and
she was like, so you just go and take these
like special sheets that you have in the laundry and
(24:11):
you fold them up in your own pillowcase and you
put them through your bag, just the stuff you already
have at home. And I'm like, I don't have perfumed
laundry sheets.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Do you? Someone gave me one for my birth.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
A perfumed laundry sheet, But she has a pack of them.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Crazy, and like even like the little cases she puts
like her shoes, Like that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
She does like little things.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
In her head is like so normal and mundane, And
for me, I'm like, rewind, what was that shu case?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
What was what?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Like?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Where did you get those things from? I don't have
any powdered sheets in my laundry. I just use laundry
pillow case. Yeah, well I have that, and I do
take my own pillows. I take my own pillow case
with me when we're about to do all our trips.
Coming up, you'll see me with my little pillowcase away. Yeah,
I'm not putting my head on a pillowcase from a hotel.
Why because other people have put their heads in, but
they wash them. Megan markl and I.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Know, do you know that the one about I take
the hotel pillow cases and then make them my own.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay, okay, that's straight up theft. There was one moment
where I related to Megan Markles, so I did start
to think that we could be the same person. Well,
and it wasn't when she was cooking or making anything
fancy or anything like that, because I just don't have
that natural hostess element in me. Actually, there were two moments.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You do that you're a hostess to a point.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I like to host myself. Yeah, I do it my
living room with my flowers and candles, with my little
snacks and my wine, and I like we like making
things look nice. I just what she liked. Yes, when
she put the raspberry sawbet with the champagne in it,
and had that. I was like, I do do that
at home sometimes.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Whereas I would have just had the champagne by itself
and then eating the raspberries.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Really, okay, you've got to I will make that few
one day. It's really really nice. Okay, I've got those
same glasses too. It's all in how you present it,
that's true. But there was two moments. One in the
first episode where one of the women I can't even
think of her name said to Meghan Markle, oh, I
don't really like flowers. And it's the only time I've
seen just discussed in Meghan Markle's face.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Oh it.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
It was the lady who owns Milk Bar and she's
like a well renowned like pastry dessert chair and yeah,
she was like, this is why, Meghan, you have too.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Massive so who doesn't like flowers, but like you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Can't bring a massive chef put them in the kitchen
and be like, now we're going to go do flower
arrangement and I'm going to teach you.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And flower arranging is hard.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It's as like chefs, because I'm so sorry to chefs
out there, but I do have a bone to pick
with you.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Okay, Jesus, you're sharing with this one. I love chefs.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
The chefs I know are so particular in being perfect
that when you put them into an environment where they
can't be perfect and they have to learn in front
of other people, they freak out. These are the chefs
I know, the chefs I've experienced.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
No, I would say that's the true thing, because it
is you have to be perfect in doing it. You
can't just be like, oh, this is fine because you're
sending fruit, especially these like creep top tier Michelin Star
kind of chefs that she's.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Working and the chef she brought on and were very competitive, yeah,
and they wanted to win the flower arrangement contest.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And then this woman's like, I don't really like flowers.
You just see it's the one time Megan Markle's mask
kind of fell and she was like what And so
I really related to her arrangement.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I could tell she didn't like flowers.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
She's a bunch of weeds. She was like, oh, this
is fine, and they had all the flowers, was playing,
She's like picking up grass from the guard. And then
at one stage when she was cooking, she's like, oh,
I did just go outside and redo my flower age,
like Meghan the best. Yeah, of course he's.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Really She definitely practiced that like days before her.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So that was the one time I related to her.
The other time is when she was saying that when
she's really nervous, especially when she was a working actress
and auditioning, she always used to get like a big red,
stressed neck, like a whole neck, so she got red
and pot chi and so she had to go to
every event in eternal neck. And if you look at
all my interviews, every big interview I do, I'm wearing
(27:42):
a really high neck because I also get a spotchy neck.
My friends call it a hiky neck, like my whole
neck just breaks out in like I hope, like, hey girl,
I get you.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I remember that because it was so funny, Like I
feel like it's one of those moments where you want
to be friends with someone so so badly that you
just agree with everything they say. And I feel like
that's chrissy to Megan. Megan's like I get a huge
rash on my neck, and because it's like, yes, same,
I was like, I.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Don't know, girl, neck looks pretty good right now. I'm
not saying for watches.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It's like, I'm really tired. Yes, same, I'm also really tired.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
So that's when I loved her. Now to when I
got mad at her. It was Tanned from Queeri and
they were doing the cooking and everything was really cute.
I like did too. And my favorite point when he
kind of looked at her when she was doing the
blast bits of the cooking and he was like, what
are those things that you're sprinkling on there? And she's like, oh,
dry flowers and love them. And she's like just putting
handfuls of dried flowers on anything. Anything in that kitchen
(28:40):
that's around just gets dried flowers floated. Ever seen But No,
it was when they were doing their arts and crafts,
so she was like, let's do aprons for your two kids.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
And I know where you're going with this.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Like she went from doing this beautiful silk screening on
scarves that looked so beautiful and artistic, and I was like,
oh my god, I could never like And I was
thinking to myself, she's really clever. She really knows what
she's doing. Sometimes when you see her do her caligraphy
and stuff, like, this woman has proper skills that I
could never imagine having. And then she went from that,
she went from such a high height to such a
low low because then she got out these aprons and
(29:16):
she took a big chunk of celery, cut the top
off it, took the celery head, dunked it in some paint,
and then put it on the apron and then looked
at ten France from queer Eye, who's like no one
for like being able to create incredible things, and goes
and he's like a fashion I he knows everything about
everything of fashion. And then she like dunks the painted
(29:36):
celery it off and it leaves a big clump of paint,
and she looks at him and goes, see what we
can create? And I was like what. And then she
they were getting other vegetables and he's like, I'm gonna
try it with the lime and gets the lime and
the paint puts it and I was like, so this
is what I did in kindergarten. And even when I
was in kindergarten, I looked down and was like, this
is beneath me, like taking fruit and vegetables and putting
(29:58):
it off.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Also, fruit and vegetables are quite expense. When she started
cutting that celery. I was like, Oh, I wonder what
they're going to cook in here, and then I said
dunking the vegetables and paint and I was like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
You're like, I hope you washed that off and ate
it up towards economy. And also, the aprons are horrible.
I was gonna say they look fine, but you're right,
they did look roriable. You know myself was the worst
thing is that he's got these two young kids and
he says that he has to go away for work
a lot of the time, and his kids get really
upset and when they come back, they go to his
husband more so, his kids get really upset when he's
(30:29):
away for work. And then Megan kind of insinuates that, like, oh,
well you're away now filming this, like this is work,
but you get to take these aprons back. And I
was like, those aprons are so ugly. They are not
worth his kids loving him.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Like, no, TAM's gonna like be burning them on the
way across the Biro.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Without a Santa Monica and like threw them out the
window and they went they just flew over a cliff.
Because I was like, this man is literally is that
a salary. He's literally like, oh, when I leave my kids,
they love me less. And she was like, well, these
aprons will make up for it.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I felt like a little bit protective of Meghan Markle
as I was watching this show. Is that she comes
across lovely and then she also comes across insane. And
I think the insane part comes from the editing in
a way, because do you remember the part where they
were making those little crack of cheese things and they
brawled them out the oven and then she was like,
do you guys want some? And the camera panned around
(31:26):
and there was about fifteen people in the room, so
many people with cameras, so many producers, And they obviously
do show her talking back and forth to the camera
people throughout the show, like they break that fourth wall.
But at the same time, that was the first time
I saw just how many people in the room and
they were all laughing and chatting. And that's when I
realized that because sometimes when she looks crazy, it looks
like she's in a room by herself when she doesn't
(31:47):
have her guest. She's doing all that cooking and prepping
and stuff, and she's just talking and she looks like
she's room by herself, and she keeps laughing and looking
down and laughing in but nothing funny has happened. Ye,
nothing remotely interesting has happened. So she looks crazy that
she's in a kitchen. It looks like she's laughing at herself,
saying I like to put lemon on things. Ha ha,
Like that's a crazy person's act. But then I realized
(32:09):
that there's so much has been cut out that she's
Everyone in the room is laughing at something, a conversation,
and she's joining in that conversation, but that's not being shown. No. Yeah,
and she does the editing. She has said that she
goes through the notes, she does the editing, she does
the cuts. So but I just feel like someone needs
to come in and be like, hey, you look crazy,
And you don't have to because you're laughing with fifteen
other people in the room. And you know what it's
(32:29):
like when you're on those shoot days, and you know
when we go and do the projects and stuff, like
you with these people all day, you do get a
little hysterical. You have in jokes, things are funny, but
we're just not seeing that.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, and it's so hard even when you're the one
editing yeah, because you know the context yeah, and that
gets muddled, like you can't see in the fresh eyes,
which is why like we never heard it. Yeah, allowed,
But I do I do agree with that, and I
wish to that in some of those like takes where
she is by herself and prepping for the guests, I
wish they pulled someone from the crew to be with her, yeah,
(33:01):
because I think that would have been so fun to
watch her interact with the normal person.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I do think sometimes I say this with love in
my heart, because all of these people are so talented
that it's okay that they're not TV personalities. But often
she would have a really well known chef or someone
on with her, and because they're not naturals in front
of the camera, she's having to do all the heavy lifting,
like chatting and trying to be funny, and it's just
not working. I feel like she's like Mindy kayling with
(33:26):
her every episode or somewhat something like that.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Oh my god, I imagine if she had Mindy can
that would be incredible.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I would watch She's just something like that to kind
of heighten it, because I mean, Megan Michael's very sweet,
but she's she's not funny. She's not funny intentionally, so
it kind of I feel like that's where it kind
of peaks because.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
She's trying to figure out I think also what type
of show she wants it to be. Yeah, and like
you said, if it's a guest who's like a chef
or someone who isn't like media facing, she has to
do the heavy lifting and be all the personality. Yeah,
but when she has Mindy Kayling or like Christy Tigg
and like, she can take a step back.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And kind of bounce off them, and especially people that.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
She's actually friends with that she knows, you did, knows
how they will act in front.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Of a camera exactly. Again, as you were saying before,
there's some little tippits of her life when she talks.
But the fact that on their third date they went
camping in Botswana. Can you imagine that you're in love
with a guy, you think you're going to marry, and
then you go and spend five days together in a tent.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I like camping, but not with someone I'm dating. No,
and not also in Botswana. It's like beautiful, but it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Crazy, and like third date I'd been like, I'm getting
murdered by a prince.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
What a way to go. But also every time they
gave little tibbitts of their wedding, like I hadn't seen
those wedding place cards before, like the table settings or even.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Saying how like the menu had all like little bits
of like where all the food came from, and I
was just imagined the Queen just.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Reading reading The Queen since down and goes to Prince Philip,
like there's a map on our table showing where all
the food is from, and they just like get us
out of here. But then like they invented like a
special type of like michelin sta fried chicken to serve
with the after party, and it looks so good, and
I was like, this is the information I want, Like
what food did you serve at the after part of
your wedding? I don't even want to know why you
hate the Royals, although I want to know that as well,
(35:06):
but I also just want all this behind the.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Queen eat fried chicken.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, she had did to queen eat the fried chicken bites?
What did she call them? The late night bite? The
late night by its tried chicken. Yeah, so good.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
No, I don't. I think the Queen would have tapped
out before the after party.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. So that is with Love
Megan season two.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
What a rollic.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I'm going to say, we're not getting a third season. Well,
I think she'll do something else with Netflix, but it
won't be their But again, I know they don't want
to film it, but I just want a documentary of
her life. I actually loved her, like packing her suitcase,
jumping in her car, driving herself to LA having like
that girl. I like that. Or when she's out on
the boat see though.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, the girl's week in away when she was like
packing the baseball cap and she was like, I made
this on my husband's forty. There's like a Joe Yeah,
and it was like the initials on the cap was
pH for Prince Harry.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah. I loved that. That was so good. She was like,
I have so many of these and I wear them
all the time. My god, I love it.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Like in that way, I was like, oh, you're taking
the piss.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Did you think there was like a message to the
royal fans.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, as I like, I'm taking the piss because like
we call them Prince Harry at home, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, I love that. And even when she's out on
the boat with the sea urchins and all that sort
of stuff, like where she tried to like cook seafood.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Oh, I genuinely thought she was gonna faint at the lobsters.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
She's like, I'm okay with a fish and he was
just like, you crack this lobster and then you pull
its head off, and she was like.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
He was like and look the lobsters saying Megan, Megan, please,
I need to be eaten. That's not mean when you've
got a really good co host with you, because that
Hi was just like going for god, oh my god.
He did not care that, and he was marriting.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
The lobster's death to her, and she was she was
so panicking. She's like, oh, I'm just a bit hot.
I'm gonna take my cardiget off and like leaves the
shot like, no, Megan, come back. You're gonna eat the lobster.
You need to watch it die. That's the rules.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And he's like, can we eat the urchins? Like reproductive
system and Meghan's like, I think we're going to cut
that out and he's like, oh, sorry, not reproductive.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Have you had a sea urchin? They're really good.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
It is the best thing I've ever put in my mouth.
Me too, It's so good, so good. So why would
get to see urchin tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Maybe like in the city of Yeah, we both look.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Close to the fish markets.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Okay, let's do that.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Because it's really expensive as well. I can't take twenty five.
I'm like, God, no Netflix got a budget for this.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I was just thinking cause o last episode where she
is cooking for the crew.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Just imagining me being there, Like I would have been
ignoring the heaving paler on my plan. Yeah, like running
to the like taking a full lobster, smashing it into
my play.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Like. This is why I think she just hasn't found
her audience, because the people watching it are the people
who want the Megan Markele Intel And I actually think
people who just like cooking and lifestyle shows. I mean,
obviously there's better ones out there, but it does feel
like that's the market she's going into. Like when she's
on the boat, when she's with the person who's explaining
how they got the sea urchins and what they do,
and I'm like, this is super interesting. But I also
(37:51):
feel like we just don't consume content in a Netflix
sense like that, Like it felt like you should be
TikTok videos, like if she put these up as little
TikTok videos of like here's how I do the fruit art,
here's how you do with the flower arranging, Here's how
you cut open a sea urchin, like people watch the
shit out of that.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
She needs to get back together with Gweno Paltrow. Yeah,
and to be like, hey, I need to get some
lead magnets off you. I need to steal some of
your audience. That's the audience she needs, Yes, like the
people who genuinely follow Goop, not Gwyneth Paltrow. She needs
that the Goop followers.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
That's so true. Well, that's our business advice to Meghan market.
We'll plan for your megane right, We'll send it through
more packing, less art with vegetables. So that is our review.
I brilliant a review with love Megan.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
I think it's much nicer than our first review from
season one.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, I think we've come around. Yeah, we've come around.
But also like I think the first one was maybe
just a shop to our system because we just weren't
expecting some of the things that happened, but this one
was quite a nice watch, pleasant watch, pleasant watch. We
watched it so you don't have to, so there we go.
But it is on Netflix now if you do want
to watch it.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
If you do, don't have to, Dare thank you so
much for listening to this episode of the Spill. Do
not forget to follow this spill on TikTok. This episode
was produced by Niche Swirren with sound production by Scott Stronik.
And we'll be back here on your podcast feed for
a week and watch at six am tomorrow and another
episode of the Spill. Bye bye, Love
Speaker 1 (39:20):
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