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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to a Mum of mea podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mama Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and Waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hello, it is Jesse here,
and I'm dropping in to tell you that this summer
we are curating a very special podcast playlist for you.
We are bringing you the insanely popular and always funny,
brutally honest reviews from our friends on the Spill, from
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the top TV shows of the year, to the biggest
movies of twenty twenty five which.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You may have only just had the chance to watch.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And of course some classics. The Spill gives you completely
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our network. From pop culture to beauty to powerful interviews,
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Speaker 3 (01:14):
Notes from mom and Me out. Welcome to the Spill,
your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm
a Bannon, and boy, do we have a special episode
for you today. I nearly said an episode you want
to sink your teeth into it? And I was like, don't
(01:34):
be that lame that quick.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
No, no, no, I think you can be that lame
that quick.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I think that's what we're here for, because this is
our brutally honest review of Twilight.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
You're impossibly fast and strong.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You gotta give me some answers.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I'd rather hear your theories.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I have considered indeo active spiders and kryptonite.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's all superherous stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
What if I'm not the hero?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
What if I'm the bad guy?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know what you are?
Speaker 7 (02:08):
You're skinner is haill?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Wait and I school young God into the sunlight?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
See it?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Wow?
Speaker 8 (02:14):
See it?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So should we play some moody Twilight? What's the theme song?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I try to sing it? You said I wasn't good
at it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I just think that you started singing Indiana Jones.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I always got to That's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We're just definitely not gonna waste air time on that,
so sorry, listeners. A brilliant, honest reveal Twilight. We should
say Twilight could mean many things. It could mean the
Twilight saga, which is all the movies.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It could mean the time of day.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Okay, yes, I wasn't gonna go there.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It really hod to reveal the best time of day.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, some depending what time I've been to sleep. I
guess I quite like dusk or I like dust too.
There's something but magic in the air. I also like,
you know, like midnight, the witchy hour. Anyway, this is
not a review of times a day. This is a
review of the two thousand and eight movie Twilight. So
we're doing the movie because it has been twenty years
(03:00):
this week since the first Twilight book by Stephanie Meyers
came out.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Isn't that insane? In this is one of the first
times where you've said something like it's been this amount
of years since this where I was there for the.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Beginning, because not only I'm talking about stuff from my childhood,
but it's been like.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
When we did Clueless and stuff, I missed the beginning
of that. So this is like one of the first
times where I'm like, I.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Was there for yees.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So you're in the weeds and this important.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
So we're going to be going through the Twilight movie,
and I should say we do have a third voice
in the room, our producer, Manitia Militia. TWI hard, TWI
hard because we needed a really die hard twy hard fare.
And it should be said that Minisha is the executive
producer of the spill, who does all the things, and
you make all a lot of the decisions. But I
(03:47):
think it was your first week here that you put
in our diaries for this week that we were doing
a brutally honest with your Twilight. That's how much you
wanted this.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Yeah. As soon as I found out about the concept
of a brutally honest review, I was like, where.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Do we work Twilight in? What's the next Twilight animissary?
Speaker 7 (04:02):
And there's been so much Twilight buzz this year because
it did twenty years since the book.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So I was like, now it's the time. I love it.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
We love.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
A producer comes in forces there own, I almost did
you reject it under the pod?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Did you ever write Twilight fan fiction?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I didn't release it, but I dubbed in my own Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
I dabbled in my own life, my personal life, like
for myself, just for me.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Oh, so you wrote twice? What did you write? Well?
I just wrote So I got a Look, did you
write yourself into the book?
Speaker 7 (04:29):
I didn't write myself in But after fifty Shades Direction,
Fifty Shades of Grace started as Twilight fan fast that
took off and it became this huge, massive thing, and
that kind of inspired me.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So I dabbled, but it didn't take off.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Okay, you didn't you judgment you didn't like, No, I'm
not judging it. Then I don't. I'm personally never written
fan fiction, but I do it in my head all
the time, so I'm not. I'm not judging you for that.
But you didn't have any of the because the whole
thing of fan fiction is that people take two characters
who wouldn't normally have sex and make them have sex.
That's correct.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Mine wasn't that sexual, but it was very in the
were wolf sort of universe.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Okay, yeah, okay, La push Baby so important. So fifty
Shades was based on the dynamic in the Twilight book
and kind of she just wanted that kind of dynamic
between the characters. But Stephanie Meya also said that she
had a dream of an Edward like figure coming in
her room and watching her sleep, and that's why people
have ripped apart the character of Belliswan so much over
the years is that it's the ultimate kind of author
(05:25):
insert where you can just tell the author, which no
judgment on the author has very much written themselves into
a scenario they wish they were living in such a
way that sometimes the character seems thin because it's just
the person who's writing it. Okay, so the book comes out.
We're going a deep cut here because this is like
really the first time, yeah, that we've all experienced the
same thing. Yes, I'm so young, you're so cool in here,
(05:46):
or that we've all experienced the same thing. So, and
what was your first memory of the book or movie?
Which one came first for you? The book?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
So I's the correct way I read the books when
they first came out, I was I don't know, I
think I was a bit young for them, but my
mom was very cool and she allowed me to read them.
My mom was also the type of mom that was
like very into kids reading. Like she was like, my
kids have to read. They always have to have a
book on them. I can't just be reading for school.
You always have to read. And I honestly think that's
(06:12):
how I got into this profession. But Twilight was probably
the first book after Harry Potter where she was like, oh,
now you're starting to read stuff that I can also read.
So I read Twilight, and she knew about Twilight because
I was all me and my friends could talk about.
I was probably ten years old when the first Twilight
book came out, so she would read every Twilight book.
(06:33):
So after I read Twilight, she would read it while
I was reading New Moon, so we'd like take turns,
and I honestly think it like solidified my friendship with
my mom. Like that was probably the first time when
I was about ten eleven when I was like, oh,
my mom's my friend.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
And then when the movies came out, Oh my god,
this is so wild to me. But the Twilight movie
was the first ever early screening I've ever gone.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Really, that is the power this whole franchise had over people.
So I was I'm obviously a bit older than you.
So I was reading the books through UNI I think
it was, and I really liked them, but that's I
was only reading my romance it's in fantasy at the time.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
And were you reading them because you were like, oh,
I have to read it because everyone's read it.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
No, I think I picked up really early because that
was my genre that I read in. So I remember
reading Twilight like literally when it first came out, before
it blew up, didn't even I didn't even mean to
be a trendsetter. Oh and then I just loved that
kind of stuff. I struggled with it a bit because
I had been raised on a school of like things
like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, where I was like, so,
we're just not going to kill any of these vampires,
(07:36):
like she's just she's just gonna date them. I can't
be on board with this, But I remember reading the
books and just thinking, and here's a hill I'll die on.
Is that. Stephanie Memi is a good writer. And I
think people think she's not. I think people think she's not.
I've read all her books, not just the Twilight ones.
She has a very intoxicating way of writing, and these books, Yes,
the premise is very sexy, but there's a lot of
sexy vampire books.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Out there, and the fact that you can write some
like something that's so appealing to both children and adults
is such a good testament to your writing.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And she taps into this, and I think the reason again,
there's so many vampire books out there and that don't
all take off like this. She tapped into something that
again is like a bit cringe for her of the
author insert thing, but she tapped into something. Is that
like everyone wanted to everyone thinks, but no one says
out loud. Is that and the reason why teenagers and
adults like these books so much. It taps into this
(08:24):
moment in like your teenage years, where you're like, everything
seems dull and small, like Bella in the beginning of
the book and the movie when we first introduced to
her through her voice over through both, it feels like
she's sleep walking through her own life and this huge, exciting,
sexy thing happens to her, and all of a sudden,
this other worldly creature just thinks that she's the most
precious thing in the world. And I think, secretly, like
(08:46):
teenagers and adults both kind of want that. Ye who
doesn't tap into So that was our first takeaways. Minsha,
how did you first read the books?
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Well, you're laughing because you know the mother daughter bond
was also a big part of this series for me,
So I remember.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Don't compare my mother daughter on to what you did
with your mom's so right when you do not.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
So. I remember seeing a girl on the school bus
reading Twilight.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
She was a girl I really want to be friends with.
We became friends.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
She's she was really cool, and I was like, she's
reading this book. I need to read this book. So
I went home and told my mom about it, and
my mom was like, I probably like eight or nine.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
She was like, it seems a little adult for you.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
What if we read it together, one page by one page?
So she would read a page out loud, and then
I would read a page out loud.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Which sounds quite sweet.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
But then when you get to Breaking Dawn and you're
like fourteen and they're like having sex on their honeymoon.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Just got bruises all over a body, and.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
He's like, I don't want to do it, I'll break you.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Like bit weird to reading your mom, I'm like, could
we stop this tradition? Now?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I never thought about you, because when you say it
sounds a bit sweet to start off with, no, it
doesn't just say you know.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Like I was nine, I read.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I did that with my mom as a kid too,
Like she would read a page, I would read a page.
But we did that with the little House on the prairie,
that's the same rank. That's the correct book to do
that with no shade to your mother. I'm sure she's lovely,
but I just at what's what stage was it was
in Breaking Dawn that you are like, hey, mum, let's
not read these sex scenes out loud to each other.
(10:13):
Maybe we'll just go read them separately. And that's fine.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Well in Eclipse when Bella first tries to have sex
with Edward.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And he's like, I don't want to steal your virtue.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Yeah, I was a bit like, oh, it's getting like
a bit weird, like maybe we could just read them separately,
and she was like, oh no, but we've like started
them together.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I feel like we should see it through.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
And then I remember her saying at one point they're
married people having sex.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
What's the issue anyway, it's just so fair.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
It's just good time.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I don't want to read it with your mum anyway. It's
more again like in all like the sexy makeout scenes
and stuff before that. But anyway, everyone has their own journey.
So the movie comes out in two thousand and eight
and is a huge success and sports this big franchise, which, again,
not every teen book does that. A lot of teen
books come out with a huge fan base. Mortal Instruments
(10:58):
comes to mind, and they falter. This one did. Something
interesting is that it wasn't first made as a blockbuster.
It was made as a smaller indie film, and Catherine
Hardwick was the director, and she had come off really
of more gritty, prestige independent movies like Thirteen, and she
tried to make Twilight not as a teen fantasy, not
as a romance, as more of a kind of dark,
(11:20):
artsy Yeah, very artistic, artsy, gritty kind of movie, which,
to be fair, I actually think works really well. It's
very atmospheric.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, but it was just like one of those things
where there's no stopping the teenage girls. Yeah, Like they
knew they were going to get a movie, and they
knew they were going to watch it and love it.
And it's so funny when I rewatched Twilight now as
an adult, I imagine myself as watching it as a kid.
I would have been twelve years old when it came out,
I think, and I was like this, there's no way
(11:50):
you would have liked a movie like that ever at
that age. Really Yeah, it's just such funny, Like the
scenes are just so now they're like mimable. Yeah, whereas
like in the moment, I was like, this is so
deep in the nasi Oh yeah maybe, I mean, and
I felt like an adult watching it, Yeah, because it
does shy away from any of like this, and I
think it becomes as the movie goes along, it becomes
(12:11):
more like bookbustery, it becomes more like more young adult,
it becomes glossier.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, but in that first one, you it does feel
like you're you're it's like almost set in the same
world as Thirteen, which have you ever seen that movie?
Holy hell? Yeah, yeah that is gritty. Yeah, like it's
the same time. And that's why Nicky Read was cast
as Rosalie, which I know people really didn't like her casting,
and part of me does think like she does feel
out of place a little bit for that character. But
she started thirteen, and she also co wrote it with
(12:38):
Catherine Hardwick. I remember, So that was Catherine Hardwick wanting
to work with an actress that she had a really
good relationship with and she thought was really talented, and
so put her in that character.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
And yeah, but it works for like the other generation
because that's the first time I saw NICKI read yeah
in movie, So in my head, I'm like, oh my god,
she's such a bad like she's always going to be
in that badass role.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Really, I was just like, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
That was my introduction to her.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I was like, that's Sadie from the OC.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yes, it's so weird, and like now she just has
these two alta.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
It's interesting because when Stephanie Meyer wrote the book, she
and it became really successful. As she was the sequel,
she was like, she knew it was gonna be a movie,
and she knew exactly who she wanted to play, Edward Cullen.
Do you know this Henry Cavill. Henry Cavell. There's a
whole blog post that she wrote in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Was Henry Cavill. I probably would have been team Edwood.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
But he was too old by the time they made
the movie. That was the general consensus.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
But I would have put some black curse on him.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I was as because he's so Henry Cavill is also
so aware that he was nearly Edward Cullen, because he
has said it interviews that he knew that Stephanie Meyer
was desperate for him to be Edward Cullen, but he said, like,
at the end of the day, it wasn't her choice.
And then who she wanted for Bella. I mean everyone
auditioned for Bella, Lily Collins, Michelle Chatchenberg, Jennifer Lawrence went
(13:52):
in and said she didn't understand what she was auditioning for.
She's like, I just wanted to a room and they
hand me a piece of paper and they were like
act monkey, act and she walked out beying like I
don't know what the hell that was not doing that movie.
And then she saw at the cinema and she was like, oh, okay,
the thin But Stephanie Meyer really wanted Emily Browning, which
I thought her Oh somewhere in an alternate I want
(14:14):
that movie. What's his name from Team Wolf?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Wait? Tyler Posey?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I think Taylor Lon is perfect.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, but Tyler Posey had no way. Did Team Wolf
come after?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Okay, so then he got his Wolf.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Experience Wolf Experience, Yeah, I think maybe he auditioned for it.
I think they were the ones that she wanted for
those particular roles. But it's interesting because they auditioned so
many people for Bella and Edward because of course the
whole thing was going to hinge on that Robert Pattinson
had been in Harry Potter movies in that state, predrig diggree, yes,
and then he was sop yeah, boilers.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
That's actually how they came across him.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
They were looking at people from the Harry Potter welling over,
which is.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
A good strategy because, like, I feel like they were
the blueprint for like both children but also being able
to go with your parents and your parents also enjoying
the movies that were Harry Potter and the book series
that came before it, like and then having that same
fan based consistently throughout each movie. I feel like that's
such a good blueprint for Twilight exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
And Christian Stewart had been a child actor, very successful,
but she obviously didn't have a huge fan base, Like
she wasn't coming into it as big as some of
these other actresses. But Catherine, I know you love this story, Manisha,
you're creepy girl the bedroom story. Yeah yeah, okay, so
Catherine Hardwick also she just should have made all the
(15:32):
movies because that woman is like a method filmmaker. So
she got Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson to come to
her house to film one of the essentially film the
chemistry test for Twilight. And she got them into a
scene and then she got them to make out on
her bed, and she was filming them with like a
little can card, and shit, it would be allowed now
it was.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Seen on the bed.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
You can't stop himself and then he's.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Like then he like throws himself back and the wall
and she said, Robert, she said their chemistry was undeniable,
which is obviously why they went on to date for
many years. The chemistry was undeniable. They got so into
like pashing and kissing and all this sort of stuff
on her in her home while she's filming them for
a chemistry post that she said Rob Pattinson took it
(16:14):
too far and she also had to pull him back
and he ended up tumbling off the bed. Palpable chemistry.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Clearly they can't hold feet.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I love this story so much.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
I remember watching the interview or whoever it was that
she said that, and I was like, wow, like to
have chemistry like that that cuts through the room like
a knife.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But then it is creepy that it's in her house.
I do agree for a man was doing it.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I love it like that to your reaction, My reactions
like I feel unsafe.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
After getting Stewart said to her, I will do this movie,
and it has to be Robert Pattinson. No one else
after that.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
After the bed scene, I mean, I'm sure anyone would
say that, yeah, kiss was that good. I was like,
I'll take this job, but it has to be Robert Pattison.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, the man who just flung me off the bed
in my director's home.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I'm still sad about Henry Cavilda.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
He might have fallen off the bed. I feel like
he'd be much more composed.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And he thinks about it all the time, just so
you know, especially because he just lost his job on
the Witcher, lost his job, lost his job Superman.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
And then lost his job on the Witcher.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Oh there's a curse on that man, on that handsome, white,
successful rich man. So to the movie. Now we've got
the setup.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, to the movie.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So we it starts off with, actually why it starts
off with a very artistic scene of a deer being
killed in the woods.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Beautiful imagery, beautiful monologue, beautiful monologue with Christian Stewart's voice.
A lot of people have said the first page of
Twilight's one of the best opening pages in a lot
of books that have come out in the last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Actually, night for a drama recital, did you have monologue? Okay, go,
I never put much thought into how I would die.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
But you're like white, I did not expect you to
yahn't gonna be like No, Dani in place with someone
I love seems like a good way to go.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, that's what she says.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Anyway, she said that as a seventeen year old. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, And then we have the deer being killed, and
then it flips to Bellow, who is a young teenage
girl who is moving away from Phoenix, Arizona Yep, because
her mother has married a football player.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
And they want to go honeymoon.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, but they're going off on the road because that's
his job. Yeah, and have some married time. And so
she moves to Hawks with her dad, Charlie, who you're
a bit of a fan of.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Guys as an adult woman, I think it's safe to
say that Charlie is a heart throb. Oh yea, yeah,
he's hot with his mustache, and here's like police get up.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, and he's gruff, but like really caring, Like when
he just goes in the car and yeah, gets her car,
then you just change the tires that being asked, it's away.
She's never been taken care of before. Oh my god, it.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Comes in old gloom. I mean, I hate I hate
the cold, I hate rain, and yet you brought your
little cactus. Obviously that's not gonna live here. It's gonna
die in two seconds.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Am I fawning over the dad? Butly for different reasons.
I was like, oh, maybe it's nice to have a dad,
and you're like, I want to date him. Lots of
issues being worked out in this pod. We love how
pop culture shines the mirror back to ourselves. So this
is actually when she gets the car. That's her first
meeting with Jacob played by Taylor Lautner, who was only
(19:08):
ever supposed to be in Twilight movie, just the first one,
and then they were planning to reach so he only
had his contract was to one movie. And then they said,
because the character and the books go through such a
big transformation, you're playing the little, weedy, young version of
the character. And then when he goes through his werewolf transformation.
He becomes really bulked and sexy. We're gonna recast, and
Taylor One was like, not my watch.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, actually Kristen Stewart was like, not on my watch.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
She fought for him to stay.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
She may as well direct the whole thing.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
She was like, I want that boy and that boy,
and that boy and that boy.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
She's just picking all the boys. So Taylor Lawner then
had to.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You forgot that Jacob also had made the engine in
her carthing like that.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
He's so handy. Yeah, he remakes the engine. Yeah, and
he shows her how to drive the car.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Well, your team and daughter team Jacob.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
We're doing this right now.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We have to so complicated, No, just pick one.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
At the initial time, I was team Jacob because I
think I was a little superficial back then, and.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I was just like ooh, tan Abs, you know.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
But then as I've matured as an adult, I think
from an intellectual standpoint and a financial standpoint, because I'm.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Not asking if your team Jacob or Edward as an.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Adult a financial standpoint also, it was like I literally
just want a name.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
My mind is with Edward, but my body's with Jacob.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Can I say that just so you know that's not
just the worst thing you've ever said.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Okay, now I actually do need the explanation.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Is the worst thing of human beings ever said.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
But just think the bodies with Jacob, think about the art,
the music Edward, he plays piano. He's probably invested in
a lot of stocks over the century plus that he's
been alive, all the things he could.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Teach, so the only things he invested in is graduation caps,
which don't retail for grades.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Just keep going. It's looked it up.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
But I think with Jacob is just more of a visceral,
like he's hot wolf protect me.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I'll leave it there.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Marry my daughter.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
I actually don't hate that plot point as much as
some others, but that's breaking dawns, so I'll leave.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
It me to Okay, anyway, what are you well? I
still don't really know what manet is.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It's not half. She said. Her mind is Edward, but
her body.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Was Team because I am a vain person. I was
team Edward first movie, team Jacob for the rest.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Wait, how does that make you vain? He's so like
he's not as hot as Jacob in it physically.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
That's why it makes me vain, No, because I wasn't
team Jacob in the first movie, and then when he
gets hot in Your Moon, I was team Jacob.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I see where you're coming from.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I think it was the hair. When he cut his hair,
I was like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
All in, You're all in in?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
What are you? You're Edward?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
For sure?
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Are you not?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Can I say your shack boy?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Jacob is so different to your type, though, is he?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah? Okay, no?
Speaker 8 (21:51):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And you like you like smart guys.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I don't know where you picked that up from. All
my crush is a Pacey from Dawson's Creek, Dean from Supernatural,
and Darryl from The Walking Day. None of those men
have ever read a book.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I still think those men align more with Edward than Jacob.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Well, here's the thing about Edward is, like the initial
movie and book, I'm just like, yeah, I'm into this
brooding vampire. Except when he's trying not to smell her.
That's the worst look of man's ever had on his face.
It's so embarrassing for him. But I just found him
quite creepy. As the books went along and I was
actually reading Breaking Dawn, I was like flipping the pages
really fast because I was like, don't marry this creepy man.
(22:29):
I really wanted her to like run away with Jacob,
and I kind of I knew it wasn't going to happen,
but I also just didn't want them to be together.
I find Edward controlling in an intense way, and has
that man ever said an interesting word. He's got no charisma,
he's got no risk. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I feel like he gave so many young girls such
big complexes about what their dating life's going to be.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah. Yeah. I think people like the idea of this powerful,
as I said, this powerful creature loving you so much
and like being obsessed with being obsessed with you, and
like watching over when you sleep. I don't find that
creepy at all. I found that lovely actually, and like
all this kind of protecting you. But then the further
the relationship they start to fall in love. It's the
(23:09):
first time I'm like, there's no chemistry between these book characters,
which never happens. Yeah, yeah, it's all musical. There's no
there's no chemistry between them. Do you agree?
Speaker 6 (23:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Also, I think what didn't help in the movie.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Was that they took out a lot of the dialogue
and they just played music over it and they sat
in a tree.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
There's a lot of music.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, and so I think.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
That also didn't help Spider Monkey.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Do you know that?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I don't want a monkey man we go?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Do you know what ruins us to me is that
when they were doing all those like very physical scenes
and you're supposed to see Robin Pattinson's Edward Cullen be
like lifting her up and rescue her and dropping her
from like and jumping with her and like he's so
physical and protective and it's love that. And like when
they were doing those scenes, poor Rob Pattinson, who also
didn't have a license at the time, so every time
you see him driving, they're just like coming to tow
(23:53):
the car's.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Driving in like his little Volvo drive.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
He's got a license at the time. And then he's like, yeah,
I tore my glute really bad when we were doing
the action scenes, so I couldn't do them anymore.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I was like, oh God, Team Jacob.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Dude, I'm trying so hard to have a crush on you,
but you're stopping me at every time.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
While Taylor lawns the brace like lifting weight.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Smashing me, Paddy lift.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
He's like, when's a magic.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
So he went, we're just not saying on track with this.
So he went off and bogged up. And when he
came back to said or bogged up. Christian Schwart said
that she started crying because she was so proud that
he had done it, and he got he tried as well.
For anyways, we haven't even got to her meeting Edward.
Then she goes to the high school.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yes, and there's one seat available in the science lab. Yes,
and it's next to him, and she so she walked
into the classroom and then she happens to stand in
front of the one fan in the classroom and the
hair goes washshish, and then you see the smell go
to end Edward and Edward looks like he's about to ship.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It's not attractive. It's not attract again, that is the
worst look an actor has ever had on their face.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Oh my god, I know he regrets that.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Trying so hard to be in love with this man
he's not letting me.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, creepy vibes.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
They also in the movie cut one of my favorite
moments from the book, which is also science lab related,
which is with the needles and the blood and how
her whole fear of blood and then she faints and
he like takes care of her, which I thought was
the pinnacle of hotness, and they.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
And they took about it and they were replaced it
with when he goes away for a bit because he
had to feed and he comes back with this hazel
eyes and then he's like hello, Yeah, he's like and
he's like, person, are you enjoying this rain?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It's literally a I.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
And then we get our introduction to the Culen siblings.
That introduction where they all come into the cafe where
they all glide in. You see them outside and they're
like on this like moving treadmill thing. It looks like
they're not walking because they're just gliding. Yeah, and they
all glide in arm in arm, and then you find
out that they're all siblings.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
But they're also in taking us, which I agree with.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Anna Kendrick, Anna Kendrick, who we will just call her
Anna Kendrick as we go through. She's so good in
this movie. She had everyone else talks about how horrible
it was being in that rainsoaked place so long, such
long hours, and she was like, fly and do one scene,
Flower had a great time. She forgot she was in
the movies for a while. People talked about Twilight. She's like, yeah, Twilight.
Then she's like, I was in that. I forgot And
(26:18):
she's so good as that character.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Anna Kendrick.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, she's just Ana Kendrick. She's like, you know what,
those siblings are having sex and that's weird. And they
live together. That's fair enough.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
It is true.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
And when they all walk in in that iconic sibling scene.
Really important factor note is that Emmett or Kellen Lut's
the guy who plays him.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, so the hottest one.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
It depends what you No, we love a dumb beefcake,
he's the hottest one. He's a Travis Kelcey anyway, Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
He is holding this bag of eggs in that scene
and they're just like twelve, like hard boiled eggs or.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Six or twelve? Yeah, how many?
Speaker 7 (26:53):
And it's just because the actor brought that as lunch
and it just found its way into the scene. And
I just always think that's so weird that he's just
holding a back.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Of eggs and swinging them as he walks. He was
trying to explain to the humans why his physique was
like that. He's like, look the eggs I eat. That
explains the muscle.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
That actually makes sense. And there's someone who's dated a
bodybuilder that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
All, yeah, it's normal.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I promise you.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
It's not a fo the supermodel who's dated a buddy,
but as someone who's also been in love with a
hundred yeard fanpire, I can't just say so. Then we
get I'm really trying to move this along. Sorry, I no, no,
obviously this could be a fifteen hour podcast. Bella is
all like, I'm going to confront Edward because she's saying
that he's rude to her. But I think the subtext
(27:33):
is he she thinks he thinks she smells bad because
every time in the movie when she keeps seeing him,
she keeps smelling her own hair.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, yeah, and you know what, maybe she.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Does smell bad, And then well that's that's what't when
I was a kid, you do.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
It turns out she just smells too good.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
She smells too good good.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
But also he's also freaking out because he can't read
her mind. Yes, and she's the only person who can't.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Read what I mean.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Wow, And she's like a tasty wicked wing to him,
what would be your food version of Bella?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Come on, only like a wicked wings up there something?
So I mean, I guess you'd almost want it to
be like really sweet or maybe something delicious.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
It has to be something that you say no to
if you.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Get off it and fleshy like the world.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
No, it doesn't. Wait stop, it doesn't have to be flesh.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I'm so.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I just mean, like, if someone were to offer you
this food you can't, like you physically can't say no to.
I'm not like making you choose different meats.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
I'm like, oh my teeth sinking into a succulent piece
of chicken, Like, I get it anyway.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
No, you to get to worlets maybe like the like
the world's crispiest, perfect French fry with like a troll
and it's steaming hot and you have to bite into it.
Oh my god, that's what I hope. I would smell
like to a vampire.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And then you're in love with it and you can't
eat it.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, imagine being in love with the French fry and
you can't eat it.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
That would be really hard. I understand Edward.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Now, yeah, me too. Get it well. Sephanie MII is
working on levels that we can't even understand. So then
we have what I think is the hottest scene in
the entire movie, you guys, when she's in the car
park and Bella, the car's coming towards her, and Edward
jumps in and he goes and stops it with your
hand and.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Then he runs away. And then he runs away, and
then the guy driving was like, Bella, Oh my god,
how did you do that?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
He keeps saying, and he's like, so sorry, but I'm
so sorry.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I don't know who you did that, but I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
And he follows into the hospitality keeps being.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Like and then Charlie just like closes the curtain.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Charlie's regretting everything in his life right now.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
And then we're also introduced to Edward's dad, Carlile. Okay,
when I was reading the books as a kid, I
thought his name was Callisslie. I called him Callisslie until
I watched the movie and I was like, who's Carlos
And I was like, that's so the biggest jump scare
of my life as a child.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You're like, I don't know that man, Carlisle.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Wow, And like, I was so certain his name was
Callislie that in my head, I was like, Oh, they
changed it to Carlisle so we could say it better. No, No,
that is how you say cars, a unique spelling.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And he, of course is played by Peter Fassinelli, who
I think originally auditioned for Charlie and then ended up
getting Carlisle, which I think is the best a roll
married to Jenny Garth from Beverly Hills nine O two
one O, who played Kelly for many years. So he
was in a Hollywood power couple for many many years.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Nepo husband.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Sure, I think he was an acted first, but okay,
we'll go with that.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And he was a vampire first. So he's the one
who started the Cullen clan.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yes, and he's the one who doesn't let any of
them feast on the flesh of humana the vegetarians. Yes,
so good man.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Such so we After the car scene, Bella starts getting
suspicious of Edward. She meets up with Jacob. They kind
of chat, ye, they go I think they go to
a beach, right, and she invites Edward to the beach
and he doesn't turn up and put baby the best
line Okay, that's the push baby, and then she feels rejected.
(30:54):
And then some of Jacob's friends say the Coulins don't
come here, and then she was like, Jacob, what do
they mean by that? He's like, oh, you heard that?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Did you? The tension the tension build is incredible.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
It's like, got that's right right, you picked that up,
didn't you?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Sorry? It was a subtle of the ton of bricks.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
The columns don't come here, the colins don't come here.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And she's like, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
He's like, oh, you heard that.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
She's like, oh no, I would never ask any foll
up questions. Such a huge declaration.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
And then we learned later that, like Jacob's going through
some things, I feel like that can be the kind
of how we go through our menstrual cycle. That's kind
of what Jacob was going through in the first Twilight movie.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Heal face littell face.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah, because he's like becoming a were wolf and he's
getting moody and angry. I don't know why I'm suddenly
getting so strong.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, it's because the color family in the area is
making the were wolves.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah, more of them turn Yeah, a lot of there's
a lot more well were wolves than they used to be,
and that's because of were wolves don't like vampires, viceversa.
And then Bella, we were doing a recap of the
other ones. That's so much more interesting of the other
you want that, Yeah, let us know if you want
the other movies, because it's not going so well.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I mean, this is going off the rails, but okay.
Then Bella discovers through her own research that Edward is
a vampire, And to that, I say, is she the
only person forked with a computer? Like she literally saw that.
She arrived in town, looked at this weird man who
doesn't go out in the sun and was like, hh,
Google's for like five seconds and it's like, oh, he's
a vampire. Why didn't anyone else do that?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
No, because what triggered her is when she went to
get that book from that shop. Yeah, and then I
think it had some words in there that she then
googled in the book and then she figured out vampire
lot is also hard at the most dodgiest website. I'm like,
you're getting a virus girl.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Anything.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Charlie was like, why Bella just like Edward about and
what kill me, and then they have the whole scene
where they go to the other town and he saves
her and that's when they go and have mushroom ravioli,
isn't it.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
That was sick of man.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
And she went home and googled even more and she
was like, will my vampire boyfriend eat me? And it
said probably probably to say, you're.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
On Reddit just like vampire human relationship.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
What would a.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well, yeah, how would she as GPD, She'll be like
vampire human future question.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Mark, Please wait for more and then be like can
we have sex? Can we kiss? Will he kill me?
Will his family kill me? Well? I kill him if
I stab hi through the heart with some wood, Oh
my god TBC Yeah, hard to say.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
So then after that they decided they're together pretty quickly.
It goes from like real dating isn't like this. You
don't go from zero to.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
One hundred and come out of dinner with the vampire.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Family and they go off into the little foresty bit
near the school and then she says, well, he says
the iconic so the lion fell in love with the
lamb and she says, what a stupid lamb And he says,
what a sick masochistic Lion, and then there's vibes.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
No, it's like I'm watching it, are you?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Are you like watching that movie in your head while
we're doing this.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yeah, it's very vivid to me right now.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
But I found really funny as a kid watching this
is he's standing at like the entry of the forest
and she's like parked a car and she didn't say
anything to him. She just walks straight past him and
he's following her, and then she just starts talking and
I was like, she doesn't even know he's behind her.
What is she doing this full monologue and not there
like she didn't ask him to follow her. Well, I mean,
(34:33):
so maybe she's got a six tens too.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Maybe. Well we do find that she has a dormant superpower,
that's why she becomes a shield. But anyway, let's give
me a head like five movies. So they get together,
they kiss a lot, cute, and then their biggest, their
biggest challenge happens, which is that Bella has to go
to the Colored House.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Can I say we see him glow, we see him
sparkle in the sun. Yeah, but like he makes her
walk up the whole mountain to get to the sun, Like,
why didn't you just walk back out of the forest.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Okay, you've got a real thing about it, just like
incidental exercise.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Yeah, I do. I do. I feel like this gets
brought up a lot of.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
One of the facts, like fall out of love with
that man. If he made me walk up a hill,
I god.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
If a man makes me walk up a hill, I'm done.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, because later on Jacob carries her upper hill and
that's the sexiest scene the whole thing. Anyway, Again, we
move on, so then she has to meet the Culen family.
Can kind of say the best thing about the Twilight
Universe is when and which I wish she'd gone ripen
more of is Stephanie Meyer. This law that she creates
around all these different vampires and all their origin stories
and how they came to be and how they live
and like the Vulture and their rules and everything every time,
(35:37):
Like That's why I think I love the later books,
because I'm like, I don't really care about Edward and
Bella as much and they're creepy offspring baby. I more
care about this intense vampire world and all these people
in it. So then we get to the Color House
and they're playing Italian music.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
And they're cooking in the kitchen for the first time. Yeah,
even though she knew they don't eat, so she said,
I had lunch before. And then Rosalie gets really angry
and smashes the salad that looks shit anyway, fair enough,
but to cook they don't eat.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
This is also where they tried to bring some like
kind of quippy humor into it, which feels out of
place with this kind of moody, realistic movie that Catherine
Hardbook was trying to make. Is that this is when
they start trying to make it more of like a
poppy kind of teen movie, where they're just like, we're
making Italian. How many she likes Italian? Well, her name's Bella,
and every of the movie was like ha ha ha,
(36:29):
And I.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Was like, but I like how they kept Emmett kind
of funny throughout the whole.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, well that was Molare in line with his personality.
Ye like to.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
Alice, she's got that quirky, you know, quirky girl.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
She's a little bit funny, she's a bit weird. Okay,
she's meant to be.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
It's really weird. Jasper, he's really.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Struggling not to eat her like that travel fry is
real for him.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
So it's her birthday, right, do they all get her gift?
Or am I thinking of a different dinner party?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
You're thinking of a different dinner.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I'm sorry, it's not what he's back to.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
The second movie and from them, we sort of really
kind of see them fall in love to some extent.
We still we see Charlie have to deal with the
situation when it comes over and he pulls his gun off.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, he's the coolest dad.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You're obsessed with him.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Love Charlie so much. I had more airtime. That's my one.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, exactly. Well, he became such a fan favorite. There's
all these photo that's all these videos from inside, like
the midnight screenings of the last movie, and how they
have all their pictures. Can't the end and like they
have this extended credits because it's the end of this
huge blockbuster franchise and all the biggest cheers for Charlie
s Baren's loving him. And then we come to I'm
(37:32):
gonna learn a lemon, say one of your favorite scenes
and maybe one of yours. Two more on, actually your
your favorite ones of the sex scenes. So you deal
with that in your own time.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
But it's no sex scene in this movie.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
It's sexually charged scene. I meant to say it.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Is your favorite scene where he's like watching her in.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Bed I mean, I do like the kissing in the
beds scene. But anyway, the very small scene is wonderful.
And the music by MWS. It was really important Stephanie
Meyer to have some songs by Muse in her movie
because she's a huge fan. And I just think super
Massive Black Hole just makes that scene.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I don't mind that music, but I find the rest
of the music in the movie really weird.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Really like especially the music's great.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
The music when they meet each other for the first
time in that lab, it's like a full electric guitarist playing.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
She was trying something, Okay, it was crazy a female
filmmaker take a chance and try and make something looks
like he's about to shoot himself on like, do you
know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (38:24):
There's also two Robert Pattinson songs in the movie, the
one where they're in the restaurant and also the one
where later on he's trying really hard not to kill
her and eat all of her.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
But he's a serious musician.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Two of his songs his own songs.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
No, he sings them.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, he sings the one where he's like, no, that's him, Yeah,
that's him. He's a musician. Don't you know anything about him?
That's why he and Sucky Waterhouse film love because they're both,
at the end of the day, broody artistic musicians.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Oh my god, I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Are you gonna go listen to all of his music? Now?
Speaker 7 (38:53):
And then?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
So we had the baseball seats. I think where we
are and I think it's safe to say that even
though this just looks fe it's a.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Perfect weather for baseball.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, it's because the lightning is It's actually a fun detail.
The lightning storm is happening, so that means that they
can make as much noise as they want and the
town would just think it's a underclub.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yeah, and you know what fair, But it was like
what I really wanted as a kid. I didn't really
understand that scene. Really, I really didn't understand.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
It was trying to show them because the rest of
the time they're pretending to be humans, so they are
so kind of reserved with like their movements and what
they say, and you're meant to see them. Yeah, you
meant no, no, not as a family. You meant to
see them look like other worldly creatures because that's what
they are. It's there.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
They're letting loose.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
They're letting loose, so that's why they're movements. So they
sped them up with the running. They're doing stunts like yeah,
the oh my god, the kids. They have cranes pulling
them up. It's like one of the most stunt heavy
scenes because they're trying to show like, this is how
these mythical creatures would move were not pretending to be humans.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
And it just ends up looking a little bit weird,
but it's also an iconic scene.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Oh my god. As a kid, I was like, oh
my god, I want to do that.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
A vampire baseball league, it's all.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I think that scene cemented in every person's mind, like
you should be a vampire.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Absolutely, it made.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Some of the real sexy ones later on, and more
so than I could play baseball real good. Anyway, Then
we have the introduction of some very important characters and
they also glide him and this is I love this scene,
any of it. This is where Catherine Hardwick's filmmaking just
absolutely shines through is that you have these three nomadic
vampires come through who have kind of formed a family, Laurent,
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James and Victoria. And the way they kind of almost
appear on the field and the camera stands on them
and like the music stops, and you have this real
even though it's a teen love stories, there's no real
stakes to it. You have this real sense of fear
about these evil creatures appearing, which I loved. I'm like, yes,
evil vampires, this is all I've been waiting for this
whole movie.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Especially because they're like, get behind me, better take your
hair down, it'll mask the scent.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Oh, you guys are really weird with this movie. I
find I want to shay more at these characters because
we obviously have Laurent who is kind of very loyal
to the Colins, but also is not afraid to stab
a human's neck real quick. And it's none of that Terry.
You know, he's not a vegetarian. None of them are,
and that their lies. The problem is that Victoria is
a bloodthirsty vampire desperately in love with her mate James.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
They mate for life, is like little blood sucking penguins
who mate for life. And then James, of course is
a tracker, and once he locks onto a particular scent,
he can't ever let it go.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Which is weird as a tracker like it took him
a while.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I think he did, okay. He followed her for a while.
He was up against indefense of James, the human killer
he had. He was up against the whole Culor family
trying to thwart him from finding Bella, and he does
find her. Also, I actually love that James is played
by cam Gitchetante, who was Volcek in the OC. It
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comes back to the OC and he's in burlesque.
Speaker 7 (41:58):
Yes, also importantly, but he's like the lead.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Art sexy man but with not long hair, so you
might be confused.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Oh my god, ye is.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
But more importantly, he had come. He had come to
play this evil character trying to kill Bella off the
back of playing an evil character in the o C
where he did kill Marissa Cooper's gonna die? Well, no,
I read the books, what's gonna happen? But I'm just saying,
this is this sexy teen heart throbs. All they can
do is kill. You're trying to kill young teen heroines.
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That's his stick.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
So At first, they were like, we're just playing baseball,
do you guys want to play? And they did okay,
But then the wind came and you see Bella's hair move,
and then Jame goes, I see you brought a snack.
Speaker 8 (42:43):
I love that line, and then they all go the
cats and then it's on and then he changed, and
I think that's the first look we see of like
the vampires like looking feral, where they like get into
their full vampire moment, and even Bella's like, holy.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Shit, it's just you don't want to be here anymore.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Ill bye, and it.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
It gets really.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Which means then that the Clan family have Chinky Bella saved.
Now Bella her defense, she's not registering the severitance situation
because she's just like, yeah, that's one vampire, but there's
so many of you, and shouldn't we just stay here
and it'll be fine. And she obviously wants to stay
with Edward, which is fair enough. And then they make
the decision that Edward has to go one way. The
Columns will try and track her down, and Jasper and
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Alice will take Bella to a safe house and keep
her safe, and.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
She screws it all up.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Does she though, yes, oh, come on, now, you wouldn't fall,
she thought her mother, So they obviously go away. He
tracks her and then he tricks her into thinking that
he has kidnapped her mother and is holding her in
a dance studio, and Bella goes to save her mom,
which fair enough.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Okay, look, okay, I love my mom, but.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
You loved it more after Twilight.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Obviously not, but okay, out of all the mums to
do that for Bella, your mom ditched you for a
man to go on a honeymoon and send you to
Colia has rainy Washington with your little cactus.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
She doesn't care let her die.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
She just let her die, okay, doesn't She ruined it
for everyone? And then everyone's like, Bella, I'm going to
you to stay rats fella edwhen find someone else.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Any other here like you were literally completely safe. He
couldn't find you.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Literally, Bella. There's two of us, me Alice who can
see into the future, Jasper who bit We willing to
do water takes.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
We just loved the opportunity to kill someone.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Yeah, and he's like kind of new Wish, so he's
a bit more stronger than the rest of him. Yes, Bella.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
She makes a mistake by going to like not let
her mother die. She gets the dance studio and.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
Then James is like, let me film.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yeah, and he really play that weird mirror game. Why
there's no sexual tension?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
What which I'm with the video?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
I don't know if he.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Went to her mom's house to get like the footage
of her mom because we find out it's not her mom.
It's like called a finishad he played for her to
trick her. Wouldn't it been easier to be like meet
me and you mums house because it's I'm already there.
Speaker 7 (45:16):
He wanted the theatrics of the dance studio with the
mirror of the because he's a hunter and also know
he's from Purlos.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
He wants to put on a showy kind of say.
James deserves to kill Bella because he put in the work,
He played the long game, he put in the work.
He wasn't sloppy, and he really he should have. I'm
just saying he should have been successful.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Okay, but then but then because he was too busy
for making a movie, a feature film, if you.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Will, classic villain thing where the villain spends way too
long monologue.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Yeah, he's like, I waited for you.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, life, he's been way too long monologue.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
I've been waiting for you for the last thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
And then they end up failing because they spent too
long explaining their evil plan. That's what James does.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
And then Edward comes to the rescue and they have
a fight a vampire off, if you were, and the
rest of them slowly get there in their own time.
But then Bella gets pushed into the glass and then
falls down and then James reaches for our arms and
bit bites it. So he bites a arm.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
And in this world, so every vampire universe has its
own rules of how you become a vampire, like in
a lot of different vampire law and this is the
official from the original Dracula book. It's like the vampire
has to drink from you, and then you have to
drink from them, and then your body has to die,
and then you have to be reborn as a vampire.
That's just vampire fact from the origin story from Transylvania,
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which Emily has learned in the last year is a
real place.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
You can call me under that we're not even talking
about that.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Or roads ly back to that. In this particular universe,
vampirism happens via the venom that all vampires have coated
over their teeth. So anyone who is bitten, no matter
who drinks blood or who does what, as soon as
you're bitten, you start turning into a vampire, which is
also the Law and Sinners coming full.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Of except sinners. It's like, you can literally maul the
person and you will still be a vampire.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yeah, well know that it has to be a bite
and sin it.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So James bites Bella. They defeat James,
but Bella is like now turning right.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
So Carla was like, Edward, you have to do it
because I'll kill her if I try to suck the
venom man. So Edward's like, I've got this, suck starts
sucking the vendom man, and then Carl's like, think you
got it, you got it? Edward stop? Whin did Edward stop?
And then her like I start rolling? That scared me
so much as a kid.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Yeah, I was like, Edward stop. Do you know that
Kristin Stewart. Everyone's like, oh, she looks so gross that scene.
She looks ugly and there's a lot of There was
a lot of like kind of pushback at the time
that this actress didn't look beautiful in this moment. I
was like, she's literally dying. Give her a break. Kristin
Schuwitt's not there to be pretty. She's very much said,
she's a serious actress. She was playing the part of
a woman who was dying horrible death.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
And then the screen goes to black and we're like,
did Edward stop? What happened? And then the next scene
is like she's in hospital. She's in the hospital bed,
and she wakes up and Edward's sleeping on the couch.
Even the rampires I'm in sleep. So I don't know
what he was doing.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Was he pretending to sleep? He was just resting his eyes?
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Mmm, sounds fake, sounds performative.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Okay, performative sleep. I think he was just.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Nervous to see her, so he was like, I'm going
to pretend to be asleep. Renee comes to hospital to
see Bella, her daughter, so she obviously cut her honeymo
in short. I'm sure she was very upset about that.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
She's like, oh, the gll gome to my daughter. She
only died that's dies.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
I'm sorry, I have to go back to Washington. Yeah,
last place I want to be. And then she's like,
we bought a new house and there's new other place.
Come live with us. I want you to live with us.
And then Edward's still sleeping on the couch.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Well yeah, because he's pretending to be asleep so that
Renee and Bella can have their private moment.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
It makes sense, Okay, I wouldn't. I would have been
wide away.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
And Bella has broken legs and broken limbs and everything
from the throw.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
So yeah, she's got a moon boot on.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, So she's in a bad spot. And that's when
she Edward like wants to not be with her anymore
pretty much right because she's so badly hurt, and she
was like, no, I want to be with you anyway.
And then they go to Prom and they have this
there's almost this moment that Edward is kind of like
leaning Bella down he and she thinks that he's going
because she's already made the decision that she wants to
be an empire. Yeah, which I even know.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
Jacob tried to interject he also came to prom, yeah yeah,
and he was like dump him, and she was like no,
and then Jacob's like all right, and then.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
He lives She's talking a big game for a woman
who's wearing a gross prom dress with a cardigan. Your
boyfriend nearly killed you and that too.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
I was more upset with the car, but I.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Liked I liked how they get in and they're like,
we're too cool for this, Let's go outside. Yeah, and
then they had that like slow dance moment outside, which
is also similar to Cinderella Story, which is also similar
to cas Burn.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Wendy Yeah, and also the original Castle Love story. That's
the thing. At the end of the day. I think
Catherine Hardwick was trying to make this like indie drama,
and she did to an extent, but at the end
of the day, it is still a teen romance. And
that's why it had to finish at prom with them
having a dance and having this moment and Edward pretending
to bite her neck colorious, and then her like accepting
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death in that moment even though she's seventeen, has no
idea what's happening, and then and Edwards saying that he
wasn't going to bite her, but they were going to
continue to be together.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Well little tease.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Yeah, it's very exciting. And then the stakes are so
high because then we cut to Victoria right, Yeah, she's
the last thing we see with her iconic red hair.
And then that actress was replaced by Bryce Stellis Howard.
Brutal movies are brutal. She was great, but they then
once the movie blew up in such a huge way,
and then all of a sudden, they're like, well, we
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have a bigger budget, We're gonna hire bigger actors, we're
gonna have bigger sets. And that's when it became this
whole big, glossy franchise and people were replaced. But yeah, Twilight,
what a what a trip down memory lane.
Speaker 4 (50:45):
I want to watch it again, even though I just
watched it last week.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
There's never enough.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
There's never enough, never enough, Twilight.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
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Notes from mom and Me out. Welcome to the Spill,
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be that lame that quick.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
No, no, no, I think you can be that lame
that quick.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I think that's what we're here for, because this is
our brutally honest review of Twilight.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
You're impossibly fast and strong.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You gotta give me some answers.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I'd rather hear your theories.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I have considered indeo active spiders and kryptonite.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's all superherous stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
What if I'm not the hero?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
What if I'm the bad guy?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know what you are?
Speaker 7 (02:08):
You're skinner is haill?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Wait and I school young God into the sunlight?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
See it?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Wow?
Speaker 8 (02:14):
See it?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So should we play some moody Twilight? What's the theme song?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I try to sing it? You said I wasn't good
at it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I just think that you started singing Indiana Jones.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I always got to That's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We're just definitely not gonna waste air time on that,
so sorry, listeners. A brilliant, honest reveal Twilight. We should
say Twilight could mean many things. It could mean the
Twilight saga, which is all the movies.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It could mean the time of day.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Okay, yes, I wasn't gonna go there.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It really hod to reveal the best time of day.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, some depending what time I've been to sleep. I
guess I quite like dusk or I like dust too.
There's something but magic in the air. I also like,
you know, like midnight, the witchy hour. Anyway, this is
not a review of times a day. This is a
review of the two thousand and eight movie Twilight. So
we're doing the movie because it has been twenty years
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this week since the first Twilight book by Stephanie Meyers
came out.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Isn't that insane? In this is one of the first
times where you've said something like it's been this amount
of years since this where I was there for the.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Beginning, because not only I'm talking about stuff from my childhood,
but it's been like.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
When we did Clueless and stuff, I missed the beginning
of that. So this is like one of the first
times where I'm like, I.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Was there for yees.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So you're in the weeds and this important.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
So we're going to be going through the Twilight movie,
and I should say we do have a third voice
in the room, our producer, Manitia Militia. TWI hard, TWI
hard because we needed a really die hard twy hard fare.
And it should be said that Minisha is the executive
producer of the spill, who does all the things, and
you make all a lot of the decisions. But I
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think it was your first week here that you put
in our diaries for this week that we were doing
a brutally honest with your Twilight. That's how much you
wanted this.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Yeah. As soon as I found out about the concept
of a brutally honest review, I was like, where.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Do we work Twilight in? What's the next Twilight animissary?
Speaker 7 (04:02):
And there's been so much Twilight buzz this year because
it did twenty years since the book.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So I was like, now it's the time. I love it.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
We love.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
A producer comes in forces there own, I almost did
you reject it under the pod?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Did you ever write Twilight fan fiction?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I didn't release it, but I dubbed in my own Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
I dabbled in my own life, my personal life, like
for myself, just for me.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Oh, so you wrote twice? What did you write? Well?
I just wrote So I got a Look, did you
write yourself into the book?
Speaker 7 (04:29):
I didn't write myself in But after fifty Shades Direction,
Fifty Shades of Grace started as Twilight fan fast that
took off and it became this huge, massive thing, and
that kind of inspired me.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So I dabbled, but it didn't take off.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Okay, you didn't you judgment you didn't like, No, I'm
not judging it. Then I don't. I'm personally never written
fan fiction, but I do it in my head all
the time, so I'm not. I'm not judging you for that.
But you didn't have any of the because the whole
thing of fan fiction is that people take two characters
who wouldn't normally have sex and make them have sex.
That's correct.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Mine wasn't that sexual, but it was very in the
were wolf sort of universe.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Okay, yeah, okay, La push Baby so important. So fifty
Shades was based on the dynamic in the Twilight book
and kind of she just wanted that kind of dynamic
between the characters. But Stephanie Meya also said that she
had a dream of an Edward like figure coming in
her room and watching her sleep, and that's why people
have ripped apart the character of Belliswan so much over
the years is that it's the ultimate kind of author
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insert where you can just tell the author, which no
judgment on the author has very much written themselves into
a scenario they wish they were living in such a
way that sometimes the character seems thin because it's just
the person who's writing it. Okay, so the book comes out.
We're going a deep cut here because this is like
really the first time, yeah, that we've all experienced the
same thing. Yes, I'm so young, you're so cool in here,
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or that we've all experienced the same thing. So, and
what was your first memory of the book or movie?
Which one came first for you? The book?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
So I's the correct way I read the books when
they first came out, I was I don't know, I
think I was a bit young for them, but my
mom was very cool and she allowed me to read them.
My mom was also the type of mom that was
like very into kids reading. Like she was like, my
kids have to read. They always have to have a
book on them. I can't just be reading for school.
You always have to read. And I honestly think that's
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how I got into this profession. But Twilight was probably
the first book after Harry Potter where she was like, oh,
now you're starting to read stuff that I can also read.
So I read Twilight, and she knew about Twilight because
I was all me and my friends could talk about.
I was probably ten years old when the first Twilight
book came out, so she would read every Twilight book.
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So after I read Twilight, she would read it while
I was reading New Moon, so we'd like take turns,
and I honestly think it like solidified my friendship with
my mom. Like that was probably the first time when
I was about ten eleven when I was like, oh,
my mom's my friend.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
And then when the movies came out, Oh my god,
this is so wild to me. But the Twilight movie
was the first ever early screening I've ever gone.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Really, that is the power this whole franchise had over people.
So I was I'm obviously a bit older than you.
So I was reading the books through UNI I think
it was, and I really liked them, but that's I
was only reading my romance it's in fantasy at the time.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
And were you reading them because you were like, oh,
I have to read it because everyone's read it.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
No, I think I picked up really early because that
was my genre that I read in. So I remember
reading Twilight like literally when it first came out, before
it blew up, didn't even I didn't even mean to
be a trendsetter. Oh and then I just loved that
kind of stuff. I struggled with it a bit because
I had been raised on a school of like things
like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, where I was like, so,
we're just not going to kill any of these vampires,
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like she's just she's just gonna date them. I can't
be on board with this, But I remember reading the
books and just thinking, and here's a hill I'll die on.
Is that. Stephanie Memi is a good writer. And I
think people think she's not. I think people think she's not.
I've read all her books, not just the Twilight ones.
She has a very intoxicating way of writing, and these books, Yes,
the premise is very sexy, but there's a lot of
sexy vampire books.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Out there, and the fact that you can write some
like something that's so appealing to both children and adults
is such a good testament to your writing.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And she taps into this, and I think the reason again,
there's so many vampire books out there and that don't
all take off like this. She tapped into something that
again is like a bit cringe for her of the
author insert thing, but she tapped into something. Is that
like everyone wanted to everyone thinks, but no one says
out loud. Is that and the reason why teenagers and
adults like these books so much. It taps into this
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moment in like your teenage years, where you're like, everything
seems dull and small, like Bella in the beginning of
the book and the movie when we first introduced to
her through her voice over through both, it feels like
she's sleep walking through her own life and this huge, exciting,
sexy thing happens to her, and all of a sudden,
this other worldly creature just thinks that she's the most
precious thing in the world. And I think, secretly, like
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teenagers and adults both kind of want that. Ye who
doesn't tap into So that was our first takeaways. Minsha,
how did you first read the books?
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Well, you're laughing because you know the mother daughter bond
was also a big part of this series for me,
So I remember.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Don't compare my mother daughter on to what you did
with your mom's so right when you do not.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
So. I remember seeing a girl on the school bus
reading Twilight.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
She was a girl I really want to be friends with.
We became friends.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
She's she was really cool, and I was like, she's
reading this book. I need to read this book. So
I went home and told my mom about it, and
my mom was like, I probably like eight or nine.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
She was like, it seems a little adult for you.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
What if we read it together, one page by one page?
So she would read a page out loud, and then
I would read a page out loud.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Which sounds quite sweet.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
But then when you get to Breaking Dawn and you're
like fourteen and they're like having sex on their honeymoon.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Just got bruises all over a body, and.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
He's like, I don't want to do it, I'll break you.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Like bit weird to reading your mom, I'm like, could
we stop this tradition? Now?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I never thought about you, because when you say it
sounds a bit sweet to start off with, no, it
doesn't just say you know.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Like I was nine, I read.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I did that with my mom as a kid too,
Like she would read a page, I would read a page.
But we did that with the little House on the prairie,
that's the same rank. That's the correct book to do
that with no shade to your mother. I'm sure she's lovely,
but I just at what's what stage was it was
in Breaking Dawn that you are like, hey, mum, let's
not read these sex scenes out loud to each other.
(10:13):
Maybe we'll just go read them separately. And that's fine.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Well in Eclipse when Bella first tries to have sex
with Edward.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And he's like, I don't want to steal your virtue.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Yeah, I was a bit like, oh, it's getting like
a bit weird, like maybe we could just read them separately,
and she was like, oh no, but we've like started
them together.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I feel like we should see it through.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
And then I remember her saying at one point they're
married people having sex.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
What's the issue anyway, it's just so fair.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
It's just good time.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I don't want to read it with your mum anyway. It's
more again like in all like the sexy makeout scenes
and stuff before that. But anyway, everyone has their own journey.
So the movie comes out in two thousand and eight
and is a huge success and sports this big franchise, which, again,
not every teen book does that. A lot of teen
books come out with a huge fan base. Mortal Instruments
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comes to mind, and they falter. This one did. Something
interesting is that it wasn't first made as a blockbuster.
It was made as a smaller indie film, and Catherine
Hardwick was the director, and she had come off really
of more gritty, prestige independent movies like Thirteen, and she
tried to make Twilight not as a teen fantasy, not
as a romance, as more of a kind of dark,
(11:20):
artsy Yeah, very artistic, artsy, gritty kind of movie, which,
to be fair, I actually think works really well. It's
very atmospheric.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, but it was just like one of those things
where there's no stopping the teenage girls. Yeah, Like they
knew they were going to get a movie, and they
knew they were going to watch it and love it.
And it's so funny when I rewatched Twilight now as
an adult, I imagine myself as watching it as a kid.
I would have been twelve years old when it came out,
I think, and I was like this, there's no way
(11:50):
you would have liked a movie like that ever at
that age. Really Yeah, it's just such funny, Like the
scenes are just so now they're like mimable. Yeah, whereas
like in the moment, I was like, this is so
deep in the nasi Oh yeah maybe, I mean, and
I felt like an adult watching it, Yeah, because it
does shy away from any of like this, and I
think it becomes as the movie goes along, it becomes
(12:11):
more like bookbustery, it becomes more like more young adult,
it becomes glossier.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, but in that first one, you it does feel
like you're you're it's like almost set in the same
world as Thirteen, which have you ever seen that movie?
Holy hell? Yeah, yeah that is gritty. Yeah, like it's
the same time. And that's why Nicky Read was cast
as Rosalie, which I know people really didn't like her casting,
and part of me does think like she does feel
out of place a little bit for that character. But
she started thirteen, and she also co wrote it with
(12:38):
Catherine Hardwick. I remember, So that was Catherine Hardwick wanting
to work with an actress that she had a really
good relationship with and she thought was really talented, and
so put her in that character.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
And yeah, but it works for like the other generation
because that's the first time I saw NICKI read yeah
in movie, So in my head, I'm like, oh my god,
she's such a bad like she's always going to be
in that badass role.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Really, I was just like, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
That was my introduction to her.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I was like, that's Sadie from the OC.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yes, it's so weird, and like now she just has
these two alta.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
It's interesting because when Stephanie Meyer wrote the book, she
and it became really successful. As she was the sequel,
she was like, she knew it was gonna be a movie,
and she knew exactly who she wanted to play, Edward Cullen.
Do you know this Henry Cavill. Henry Cavell. There's a
whole blog post that she wrote in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Was Henry Cavill. I probably would have been team Edwood.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
But he was too old by the time they made
the movie. That was the general consensus.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
But I would have put some black curse on him.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I was as because he's so Henry Cavill is also
so aware that he was nearly Edward Cullen, because he
has said it interviews that he knew that Stephanie Meyer
was desperate for him to be Edward Cullen, but he said, like,
at the end of the day, it wasn't her choice.
And then who she wanted for Bella. I mean everyone
auditioned for Bella, Lily Collins, Michelle Chatchenberg, Jennifer Lawrence went
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in and said she didn't understand what she was auditioning for.
She's like, I just wanted to a room and they
hand me a piece of paper and they were like
act monkey, act and she walked out beying like I
don't know what the hell that was not doing that movie.
And then she saw at the cinema and she was like, oh, okay,
the thin But Stephanie Meyer really wanted Emily Browning, which
I thought her Oh somewhere in an alternate I want
(14:14):
that movie. What's his name from Team Wolf?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Wait? Tyler Posey?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I think Taylor Lon is perfect.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, but Tyler Posey had no way. Did Team Wolf
come after?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Okay, so then he got his Wolf.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Experience Wolf Experience, Yeah, I think maybe he auditioned for it.
I think they were the ones that she wanted for
those particular roles. But it's interesting because they auditioned so
many people for Bella and Edward because of course the
whole thing was going to hinge on that Robert Pattinson
had been in Harry Potter movies in that state, predrig diggree, yes,
and then he was sop yeah, boilers.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
That's actually how they came across him.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
They were looking at people from the Harry Potter welling over,
which is.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
A good strategy because, like, I feel like they were
the blueprint for like both children but also being able
to go with your parents and your parents also enjoying
the movies that were Harry Potter and the book series
that came before it, like and then having that same
fan based consistently throughout each movie. I feel like that's
such a good blueprint for Twilight exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
And Christian Stewart had been a child actor, very successful,
but she obviously didn't have a huge fan base, Like
she wasn't coming into it as big as some of
these other actresses. But Catherine, I know you love this story, Manisha,
you're creepy girl the bedroom story. Yeah yeah, okay, so
Catherine Hardwick also she just should have made all the
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movies because that woman is like a method filmmaker. So
she got Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson to come to
her house to film one of the essentially film the
chemistry test for Twilight. And she got them into a
scene and then she got them to make out on
her bed, and she was filming them with like a
little can card, and shit, it would be allowed now
it was.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Seen on the bed.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
You can't stop himself and then he's.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Like then he like throws himself back and the wall
and she said, Robert, she said their chemistry was undeniable,
which is obviously why they went on to date for
many years. The chemistry was undeniable. They got so into
like pashing and kissing and all this sort of stuff
on her in her home while she's filming them for
a chemistry post that she said Rob Pattinson took it
(16:14):
too far and she also had to pull him back
and he ended up tumbling off the bed. Palpable chemistry.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Clearly they can't hold feet.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I love this story so much.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
I remember watching the interview or whoever it was that
she said that, and I was like, wow, like to
have chemistry like that that cuts through the room like
a knife.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But then it is creepy that it's in her house.
I do agree for a man was doing it.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I love it like that to your reaction, My reactions
like I feel unsafe.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
After getting Stewart said to her, I will do this movie,
and it has to be Robert Pattinson. No one else
after that.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
After the bed scene, I mean, I'm sure anyone would
say that, yeah, kiss was that good. I was like,
I'll take this job, but it has to be Robert Pattison.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, the man who just flung me off the bed
in my director's home.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I'm still sad about Henry Cavilda.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
He might have fallen off the bed. I feel like
he'd be much more composed.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And he thinks about it all the time, just so
you know, especially because he just lost his job on
the Witcher, lost his job, lost his job Superman.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
And then lost his job on the Witcher.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Oh there's a curse on that man, on that handsome, white,
successful rich man. So to the movie. Now we've got
the setup.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, to the movie.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So we it starts off with, actually why it starts
off with a very artistic scene of a deer being
killed in the woods.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Beautiful imagery, beautiful monologue, beautiful monologue with Christian Stewart's voice.
A lot of people have said the first page of
Twilight's one of the best opening pages in a lot
of books that have come out in the last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Actually, night for a drama recital, did you have monologue? Okay, go,
I never put much thought into how I would die.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
But you're like white, I did not expect you to
yahn't gonna be like No, Dani in place with someone
I love seems like a good way to go.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, that's what she says.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Anyway, she said that as a seventeen year old. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, And then we have the deer being killed, and
then it flips to Bellow, who is a young teenage
girl who is moving away from Phoenix, Arizona Yep, because
her mother has married a football player.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
And they want to go honeymoon.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, but they're going off on the road because that's
his job. Yeah, and have some married time. And so
she moves to Hawks with her dad, Charlie, who you're
a bit of a fan of.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Guys as an adult woman, I think it's safe to
say that Charlie is a heart throb. Oh yea, yeah,
he's hot with his mustache, and here's like police get up.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, and he's gruff, but like really caring, Like when
he just goes in the car and yeah, gets her car,
then you just change the tires that being asked, it's away.
She's never been taken care of before. Oh my god, it.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Comes in old gloom. I mean, I hate I hate
the cold, I hate rain, and yet you brought your
little cactus. Obviously that's not gonna live here. It's gonna
die in two seconds.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Am I fawning over the dad? Butly for different reasons.
I was like, oh, maybe it's nice to have a dad,
and you're like, I want to date him. Lots of
issues being worked out in this pod. We love how
pop culture shines the mirror back to ourselves. So this
is actually when she gets the car. That's her first
meeting with Jacob played by Taylor Lautner, who was only
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ever supposed to be in Twilight movie, just the first one,
and then they were planning to reach so he only
had his contract was to one movie. And then they said,
because the character and the books go through such a
big transformation, you're playing the little, weedy, young version of
the character. And then when he goes through his werewolf transformation.
He becomes really bulked and sexy. We're gonna recast, and
Taylor One was like, not my watch.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, actually Kristen Stewart was like, not on my watch.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
She fought for him to stay.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
She may as well direct the whole thing.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
She was like, I want that boy and that boy,
and that boy and that boy.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
She's just picking all the boys. So Taylor Lawner then
had to.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You forgot that Jacob also had made the engine in
her carthing like that.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
He's so handy. Yeah, he remakes the engine. Yeah, and
he shows her how to drive the car.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Well, your team and daughter team Jacob.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
We're doing this right now.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We have to so complicated, No, just pick one.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
At the initial time, I was team Jacob because I
think I was a little superficial back then, and.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I was just like ooh, tan Abs, you know.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
But then as I've matured as an adult, I think
from an intellectual standpoint and a financial standpoint, because I'm.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Not asking if your team Jacob or Edward as an.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Adult a financial standpoint also, it was like I literally
just want a name.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
My mind is with Edward, but my body's with Jacob.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Can I say that just so you know that's not
just the worst thing you've ever said.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Okay, now I actually do need the explanation.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Is the worst thing of human beings ever said.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
But just think the bodies with Jacob, think about the art,
the music Edward, he plays piano. He's probably invested in
a lot of stocks over the century plus that he's
been alive, all the things he could.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Teach, so the only things he invested in is graduation caps,
which don't retail for grades.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Just keep going. It's looked it up.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
But I think with Jacob is just more of a visceral,
like he's hot wolf protect me.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I'll leave it there.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Marry my daughter.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
I actually don't hate that plot point as much as
some others, but that's breaking dawns, so I'll leave.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
It me to Okay, anyway, what are you well? I
still don't really know what manet is.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It's not half. She said. Her mind is Edward, but
her body.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Was Team because I am a vain person. I was
team Edward first movie, team Jacob for the rest.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Wait, how does that make you vain? He's so like
he's not as hot as Jacob in it physically.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
That's why it makes me vain, No, because I wasn't
team Jacob in the first movie, and then when he
gets hot in Your Moon, I was team Jacob.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I see where you're coming from.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I think it was the hair. When he cut his hair,
I was like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
All in, You're all in in?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
What are you? You're Edward?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
For sure?
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Are you not?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Can I say your shack boy?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Jacob is so different to your type, though, is he?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah? Okay, no?
Speaker 8 (21:51):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And you like you like smart guys.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I don't know where you picked that up from. All
my crush is a Pacey from Dawson's Creek, Dean from Supernatural,
and Darryl from The Walking Day. None of those men
have ever read a book.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I still think those men align more with Edward than Jacob.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Well, here's the thing about Edward is, like the initial
movie and book, I'm just like, yeah, I'm into this
brooding vampire. Except when he's trying not to smell her.
That's the worst look of man's ever had on his face.
It's so embarrassing for him. But I just found him
quite creepy. As the books went along and I was
actually reading Breaking Dawn, I was like flipping the pages
really fast because I was like, don't marry this creepy man.
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I really wanted her to like run away with Jacob,
and I kind of I knew it wasn't going to happen,
but I also just didn't want them to be together.
I find Edward controlling in an intense way, and has
that man ever said an interesting word. He's got no charisma,
he's got no risk. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I feel like he gave so many young girls such
big complexes about what their dating life's going to be.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah. Yeah. I think people like the idea of this powerful,
as I said, this powerful creature loving you so much
and like being obsessed with being obsessed with you, and
like watching over when you sleep. I don't find that
creepy at all. I found that lovely actually, and like
all this kind of protecting you. But then the further
the relationship they start to fall in love. It's the
(23:09):
first time I'm like, there's no chemistry between these book characters,
which never happens. Yeah, yeah, it's all musical. There's no
there's no chemistry between them. Do you agree?
Speaker 6 (23:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Also, I think what didn't help in the movie.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Was that they took out a lot of the dialogue
and they just played music over it and they sat
in a tree.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
There's a lot of music.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, and so I think.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
That also didn't help Spider Monkey.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Do you know that?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I don't want a monkey man we go?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Do you know what ruins us to me is that
when they were doing all those like very physical scenes
and you're supposed to see Robin Pattinson's Edward Cullen be
like lifting her up and rescue her and dropping her
from like and jumping with her and like he's so
physical and protective and it's love that. And like when
they were doing those scenes, poor Rob Pattinson, who also
didn't have a license at the time, so every time
you see him driving, they're just like coming to tow
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the car's.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Driving in like his little Volvo drive.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
He's got a license at the time. And then he's like, yeah,
I tore my glute really bad when we were doing
the action scenes, so I couldn't do them anymore.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I was like, oh God, Team Jacob.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Dude, I'm trying so hard to have a crush on you,
but you're stopping me at every time.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
While Taylor lawns the brace like lifting weight.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Smashing me, Paddy lift.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
He's like, when's a magic.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
So he went, we're just not saying on track with this.
So he went off and bogged up. And when he
came back to said or bogged up. Christian Schwart said
that she started crying because she was so proud that
he had done it, and he got he tried as well.
For anyways, we haven't even got to her meeting Edward.
Then she goes to the high school.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yes, and there's one seat available in the science lab. Yes,
and it's next to him, and she so she walked
into the classroom and then she happens to stand in
front of the one fan in the classroom and the
hair goes washshish, and then you see the smell go
to end Edward and Edward looks like he's about to ship.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It's not attractive. It's not attract again, that is the
worst look an actor has ever had on their face.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Oh my god, I know he regrets that.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Trying so hard to be in love with this man
he's not letting me.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, creepy vibes.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
They also in the movie cut one of my favorite
moments from the book, which is also science lab related,
which is with the needles and the blood and how
her whole fear of blood and then she faints and
he like takes care of her, which I thought was
the pinnacle of hotness, and they.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
And they took about it and they were replaced it
with when he goes away for a bit because he
had to feed and he comes back with this hazel
eyes and then he's like hello, Yeah, he's like and
he's like, person, are you enjoying this rain?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It's literally a I.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
And then we get our introduction to the Culen siblings.
That introduction where they all come into the cafe where
they all glide in. You see them outside and they're
like on this like moving treadmill thing. It looks like
they're not walking because they're just gliding. Yeah, and they
all glide in arm in arm, and then you find
out that they're all siblings.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
But they're also in taking us, which I agree with.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Anna Kendrick, Anna Kendrick, who we will just call her
Anna Kendrick as we go through. She's so good in
this movie. She had everyone else talks about how horrible
it was being in that rainsoaked place so long, such
long hours, and she was like, fly and do one scene,
Flower had a great time. She forgot she was in
the movies for a while. People talked about Twilight. She's like, yeah, Twilight.
Then she's like, I was in that. I forgot And
(26:18):
she's so good as that character.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Anna Kendrick.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, she's just Ana Kendrick. She's like, you know what,
those siblings are having sex and that's weird. And they
live together. That's fair enough.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
It is true.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
And when they all walk in in that iconic sibling scene.
Really important factor note is that Emmett or Kellen Lut's
the guy who plays him.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, so the hottest one.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
It depends what you No, we love a dumb beefcake,
he's the hottest one. He's a Travis Kelcey anyway, Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
He is holding this bag of eggs in that scene
and they're just like twelve, like hard boiled eggs or.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Six or twelve? Yeah, how many?
Speaker 7 (26:53):
And it's just because the actor brought that as lunch
and it just found its way into the scene. And
I just always think that's so weird that he's just
holding a back.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Of eggs and swinging them as he walks. He was
trying to explain to the humans why his physique was
like that. He's like, look the eggs I eat. That
explains the muscle.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
That actually makes sense. And there's someone who's dated a
bodybuilder that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
All, yeah, it's normal.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I promise you.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
It's not a fo the supermodel who's dated a buddy,
but as someone who's also been in love with a
hundred yeard fanpire, I can't just say so. Then we
get I'm really trying to move this along. Sorry, I no, no,
obviously this could be a fifteen hour podcast. Bella is
all like, I'm going to confront Edward because she's saying
that he's rude to her. But I think the subtext
(27:33):
is he she thinks he thinks she smells bad because
every time in the movie when she keeps seeing him,
she keeps smelling her own hair.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, yeah, and you know what, maybe she.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Does smell bad, And then well that's that's what't when
I was a kid, you do.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
It turns out she just smells too good.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
She smells too good good.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
But also he's also freaking out because he can't read
her mind. Yes, and she's the only person who can't.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Read what I mean.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Wow, And she's like a tasty wicked wing to him,
what would be your food version of Bella?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Come on, only like a wicked wings up there something?
So I mean, I guess you'd almost want it to
be like really sweet or maybe something delicious.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
It has to be something that you say no to
if you.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Get off it and fleshy like the world.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
No, it doesn't. Wait stop, it doesn't have to be flesh.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I'm so.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I just mean, like, if someone were to offer you
this food you can't, like you physically can't say no to.
I'm not like making you choose different meats.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
I'm like, oh my teeth sinking into a succulent piece
of chicken, Like, I get it anyway.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
No, you to get to worlets maybe like the like
the world's crispiest, perfect French fry with like a troll
and it's steaming hot and you have to bite into it.
Oh my god, that's what I hope. I would smell
like to a vampire.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And then you're in love with it and you can't
eat it.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, imagine being in love with the French fry and
you can't eat it.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
That would be really hard. I understand Edward.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Now, yeah, me too. Get it well. Sephanie MII is
working on levels that we can't even understand. So then
we have what I think is the hottest scene in
the entire movie, you guys, when she's in the car
park and Bella, the car's coming towards her, and Edward
jumps in and he goes and stops it with your
hand and.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Then he runs away. And then he runs away, and
then the guy driving was like, Bella, Oh my god,
how did you do that?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
He keeps saying, and he's like, so sorry, but I'm
so sorry.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I don't know who you did that, but I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
And he follows into the hospitality keeps being.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Like and then Charlie just like closes the curtain.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Charlie's regretting everything in his life right now.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
And then we're also introduced to Edward's dad, Carlile. Okay,
when I was reading the books as a kid, I
thought his name was Callisslie. I called him Callisslie until
I watched the movie and I was like, who's Carlos
And I was like, that's so the biggest jump scare
of my life as a child.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You're like, I don't know that man, Carlisle.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Wow, And like, I was so certain his name was
Callislie that in my head, I was like, Oh, they
changed it to Carlisle so we could say it better. No, No,
that is how you say cars, a unique spelling.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And he, of course is played by Peter Fassinelli, who
I think originally auditioned for Charlie and then ended up
getting Carlisle, which I think is the best a roll
married to Jenny Garth from Beverly Hills nine O two
one O, who played Kelly for many years. So he
was in a Hollywood power couple for many many years.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Nepo husband.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Sure, I think he was an acted first, but okay,
we'll go with that.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And he was a vampire first. So he's the one
who started the Cullen clan.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yes, and he's the one who doesn't let any of
them feast on the flesh of humana the vegetarians. Yes,
so good man.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Such so we After the car scene, Bella starts getting
suspicious of Edward. She meets up with Jacob. They kind
of chat, ye, they go I think they go to
a beach, right, and she invites Edward to the beach
and he doesn't turn up and put baby the best
line Okay, that's the push baby, and then she feels rejected.
(30:54):
And then some of Jacob's friends say the Coulins don't
come here, and then she was like, Jacob, what do
they mean by that? He's like, oh, you heard that?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Did you? The tension the tension build is incredible.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
It's like, got that's right right, you picked that up,
didn't you?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Sorry? It was a subtle of the ton of bricks.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
The columns don't come here, the colins don't come here.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And she's like, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
He's like, oh, you heard that.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
She's like, oh no, I would never ask any foll
up questions. Such a huge declaration.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
And then we learned later that, like Jacob's going through
some things, I feel like that can be the kind
of how we go through our menstrual cycle. That's kind
of what Jacob was going through in the first Twilight movie.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Heal face littell face.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah, because he's like becoming a were wolf and he's
getting moody and angry. I don't know why I'm suddenly
getting so strong.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, it's because the color family in the area is
making the were wolves.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah, more of them turn Yeah, a lot of there's
a lot more well were wolves than they used to be,
and that's because of were wolves don't like vampires, viceversa.
And then Bella, we were doing a recap of the
other ones. That's so much more interesting of the other
you want that, Yeah, let us know if you want
the other movies, because it's not going so well.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I mean, this is going off the rails, but okay.
Then Bella discovers through her own research that Edward is
a vampire, And to that, I say, is she the
only person forked with a computer? Like she literally saw that.
She arrived in town, looked at this weird man who
doesn't go out in the sun and was like, hh,
Google's for like five seconds and it's like, oh, he's
a vampire. Why didn't anyone else do that?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
No, because what triggered her is when she went to
get that book from that shop. Yeah, and then I
think it had some words in there that she then
googled in the book and then she figured out vampire
lot is also hard at the most dodgiest website. I'm like,
you're getting a virus girl.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Anything.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Charlie was like, why Bella just like Edward about and
what kill me, and then they have the whole scene
where they go to the other town and he saves
her and that's when they go and have mushroom ravioli,
isn't it.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
That was sick of man.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
And she went home and googled even more and she
was like, will my vampire boyfriend eat me? And it
said probably probably to say, you're.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
On Reddit just like vampire human relationship.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
What would a.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well, yeah, how would she as GPD, She'll be like
vampire human future question.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Mark, Please wait for more and then be like can
we have sex? Can we kiss? Will he kill me?
Will his family kill me? Well? I kill him if
I stab hi through the heart with some wood, Oh
my god TBC Yeah, hard to say.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
So then after that they decided they're together pretty quickly.
It goes from like real dating isn't like this. You
don't go from zero to.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
One hundred and come out of dinner with the vampire.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Family and they go off into the little foresty bit
near the school and then she says, well, he says
the iconic so the lion fell in love with the
lamb and she says, what a stupid lamb And he says,
what a sick masochistic Lion, and then there's vibes.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
No, it's like I'm watching it, are you?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Are you like watching that movie in your head while
we're doing this.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yeah, it's very vivid to me right now.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
But I found really funny as a kid watching this
is he's standing at like the entry of the forest
and she's like parked a car and she didn't say
anything to him. She just walks straight past him and
he's following her, and then she just starts talking and
I was like, she doesn't even know he's behind her.
What is she doing this full monologue and not there
like she didn't ask him to follow her. Well, I mean,
(34:33):
so maybe she's got a six tens too.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Maybe. Well we do find that she has a dormant superpower,
that's why she becomes a shield. But anyway, let's give
me a head like five movies. So they get together,
they kiss a lot, cute, and then their biggest, their
biggest challenge happens, which is that Bella has to go
to the Colored House.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Can I say we see him glow, we see him
sparkle in the sun. Yeah, but like he makes her
walk up the whole mountain to get to the sun, Like,
why didn't you just walk back out of the forest.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Okay, you've got a real thing about it, just like
incidental exercise.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Yeah, I do. I do. I feel like this gets
brought up a lot of.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
One of the facts, like fall out of love with
that man. If he made me walk up a hill,
I god.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
If a man makes me walk up a hill, I'm done.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, because later on Jacob carries her upper hill and
that's the sexiest scene the whole thing. Anyway, Again, we
move on, so then she has to meet the Culen family.
Can kind of say the best thing about the Twilight
Universe is when and which I wish she'd gone ripen
more of is Stephanie Meyer. This law that she creates
around all these different vampires and all their origin stories
and how they came to be and how they live
and like the Vulture and their rules and everything every time,
(35:37):
Like That's why I think I love the later books,
because I'm like, I don't really care about Edward and
Bella as much and they're creepy offspring baby. I more
care about this intense vampire world and all these people
in it. So then we get to the Color House
and they're playing Italian music.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
And they're cooking in the kitchen for the first time. Yeah,
even though she knew they don't eat, so she said,
I had lunch before. And then Rosalie gets really angry
and smashes the salad that looks shit anyway, fair enough,
but to cook they don't eat.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
This is also where they tried to bring some like
kind of quippy humor into it, which feels out of
place with this kind of moody, realistic movie that Catherine
Hardbook was trying to make. Is that this is when
they start trying to make it more of like a
poppy kind of teen movie, where they're just like, we're
making Italian. How many she likes Italian? Well, her name's Bella,
and every of the movie was like ha ha ha,
(36:29):
And I.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Was like, but I like how they kept Emmett kind
of funny throughout the whole.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, well that was Molare in line with his personality.
Ye like to.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
Alice, she's got that quirky, you know, quirky girl.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
She's a little bit funny, she's a bit weird. Okay,
she's meant to be.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
It's really weird. Jasper, he's really.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Struggling not to eat her like that travel fry is
real for him.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
So it's her birthday, right, do they all get her gift?
Or am I thinking of a different dinner party?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
You're thinking of a different dinner.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I'm sorry, it's not what he's back to.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
The second movie and from them, we sort of really
kind of see them fall in love to some extent.
We still we see Charlie have to deal with the
situation when it comes over and he pulls his gun off.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, he's the coolest dad.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You're obsessed with him.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Love Charlie so much. I had more airtime. That's my one.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, exactly. Well, he became such a fan favorite. There's
all these photo that's all these videos from inside, like
the midnight screenings of the last movie, and how they
have all their pictures. Can't the end and like they
have this extended credits because it's the end of this
huge blockbuster franchise and all the biggest cheers for Charlie
s Baren's loving him. And then we come to I'm
(37:32):
gonna learn a lemon, say one of your favorite scenes
and maybe one of yours. Two more on, actually your
your favorite ones of the sex scenes. So you deal
with that in your own time.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
But it's no sex scene in this movie.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
It's sexually charged scene. I meant to say it.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Is your favorite scene where he's like watching her in.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Bed I mean, I do like the kissing in the
beds scene. But anyway, the very small scene is wonderful.
And the music by MWS. It was really important Stephanie
Meyer to have some songs by Muse in her movie
because she's a huge fan. And I just think super
Massive Black Hole just makes that scene.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I don't mind that music, but I find the rest
of the music in the movie really weird.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Really like especially the music's great.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
The music when they meet each other for the first
time in that lab, it's like a full electric guitarist playing.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
She was trying something, Okay, it was crazy a female
filmmaker take a chance and try and make something looks
like he's about to shoot himself on like, do you
know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (38:24):
There's also two Robert Pattinson songs in the movie, the
one where they're in the restaurant and also the one
where later on he's trying really hard not to kill
her and eat all of her.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
But he's a serious musician.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Two of his songs his own songs.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
No, he sings them.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, he sings the one where he's like, no, that's him, Yeah,
that's him. He's a musician. Don't you know anything about him?
That's why he and Sucky Waterhouse film love because they're both,
at the end of the day, broody artistic musicians.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Oh my god, I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Are you gonna go listen to all of his music? Now?
Speaker 7 (38:53):
And then?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
So we had the baseball seats. I think where we
are and I think it's safe to say that even
though this just looks fe it's a.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Perfect weather for baseball.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, it's because the lightning is It's actually a fun detail.
The lightning storm is happening, so that means that they
can make as much noise as they want and the
town would just think it's a underclub.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yeah, and you know what fair, But it was like
what I really wanted as a kid. I didn't really
understand that scene. Really, I really didn't understand.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
It was trying to show them because the rest of
the time they're pretending to be humans, so they are
so kind of reserved with like their movements and what
they say, and you're meant to see them. Yeah, you
meant no, no, not as a family. You meant to
see them look like other worldly creatures because that's what
they are. It's there.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
They're letting loose.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
They're letting loose, so that's why they're movements. So they
sped them up with the running. They're doing stunts like yeah,
the oh my god, the kids. They have cranes pulling
them up. It's like one of the most stunt heavy
scenes because they're trying to show like, this is how
these mythical creatures would move were not pretending to be humans.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
And it just ends up looking a little bit weird,
but it's also an iconic scene.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Oh my god. As a kid, I was like, oh
my god, I want to do that.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
A vampire baseball league, it's all.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I think that scene cemented in every person's mind, like
you should be a vampire.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Absolutely, it made.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Some of the real sexy ones later on, and more
so than I could play baseball real good. Anyway, Then
we have the introduction of some very important characters and
they also glide him and this is I love this scene,
any of it. This is where Catherine Hardwick's filmmaking just
absolutely shines through is that you have these three nomadic
vampires come through who have kind of formed a family, Laurent,
(40:32):
James and Victoria. And the way they kind of almost
appear on the field and the camera stands on them
and like the music stops, and you have this real
even though it's a teen love stories, there's no real
stakes to it. You have this real sense of fear
about these evil creatures appearing, which I loved. I'm like, yes,
evil vampires, this is all I've been waiting for this
whole movie.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Especially because they're like, get behind me, better take your
hair down, it'll mask the scent.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Oh, you guys are really weird with this movie. I
find I want to shay more at these characters because
we obviously have Laurent who is kind of very loyal
to the Colins, but also is not afraid to stab
a human's neck real quick. And it's none of that Terry.
You know, he's not a vegetarian. None of them are,
and that their lies. The problem is that Victoria is
a bloodthirsty vampire desperately in love with her mate James.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
They mate for life, is like little blood sucking penguins
who mate for life. And then James, of course is
a tracker, and once he locks onto a particular scent,
he can't ever let it go.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Which is weird as a tracker like it took him
a while.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I think he did, okay. He followed her for a while.
He was up against indefense of James, the human killer
he had. He was up against the whole Culor family
trying to thwart him from finding Bella, and he does
find her. Also, I actually love that James is played
by cam Gitchetante, who was Volcek in the OC. It
(41:56):
comes back to the OC and he's in burlesque.
Speaker 7 (41:58):
Yes, also importantly, but he's like the lead.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Art sexy man but with not long hair, so you
might be confused.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Oh my god, ye is.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
But more importantly, he had come. He had come to
play this evil character trying to kill Bella off the
back of playing an evil character in the o C
where he did kill Marissa Cooper's gonna die? Well, no,
I read the books, what's gonna happen? But I'm just saying,
this is this sexy teen heart throbs. All they can
do is kill. You're trying to kill young teen heroines.
(42:28):
That's his stick.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
So At first, they were like, we're just playing baseball,
do you guys want to play? And they did okay,
But then the wind came and you see Bella's hair move,
and then Jame goes, I see you brought a snack.
Speaker 8 (42:43):
I love that line, and then they all go the
cats and then it's on and then he changed, and
I think that's the first look we see of like
the vampires like looking feral, where they like get into
their full vampire moment, and even Bella's like, holy.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Shit, it's just you don't want to be here anymore.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Ill bye, and it.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
It gets really.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Which means then that the Clan family have Chinky Bella saved.
Now Bella her defense, she's not registering the severitance situation
because she's just like, yeah, that's one vampire, but there's
so many of you, and shouldn't we just stay here
and it'll be fine. And she obviously wants to stay
with Edward, which is fair enough. And then they make
the decision that Edward has to go one way. The
Columns will try and track her down, and Jasper and
(43:26):
Alice will take Bella to a safe house and keep
her safe, and.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
She screws it all up.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Does she though, yes, oh, come on, now, you wouldn't fall,
she thought her mother, So they obviously go away. He
tracks her and then he tricks her into thinking that
he has kidnapped her mother and is holding her in
a dance studio, and Bella goes to save her mom,
which fair enough.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Okay, look, okay, I love my mom, but.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
You loved it more after Twilight.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Obviously not, but okay, out of all the mums to
do that for Bella, your mom ditched you for a
man to go on a honeymoon and send you to
Colia has rainy Washington with your little cactus.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
She doesn't care let her die.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
She just let her die, okay, doesn't She ruined it
for everyone? And then everyone's like, Bella, I'm going to
you to stay rats fella edwhen find someone else.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Any other here like you were literally completely safe. He
couldn't find you.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Literally, Bella. There's two of us, me Alice who can
see into the future, Jasper who bit We willing to
do water takes.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
We just loved the opportunity to kill someone.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Yeah, and he's like kind of new Wish, so he's
a bit more stronger than the rest of him. Yes, Bella.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
She makes a mistake by going to like not let
her mother die. She gets the dance studio and.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
Then James is like, let me film.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yeah, and he really play that weird mirror game. Why
there's no sexual tension?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
What which I'm with the video?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
I don't know if he.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Went to her mom's house to get like the footage
of her mom because we find out it's not her mom.
It's like called a finishad he played for her to
trick her. Wouldn't it been easier to be like meet
me and you mums house because it's I'm already there.
Speaker 7 (45:16):
He wanted the theatrics of the dance studio with the
mirror of the because he's a hunter and also know
he's from Purlos.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
He wants to put on a showy kind of say.
James deserves to kill Bella because he put in the work,
He played the long game, he put in the work.
He wasn't sloppy, and he really he should have. I'm
just saying he should have been successful.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Okay, but then but then because he was too busy
for making a movie, a feature film, if you.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Will, classic villain thing where the villain spends way too
long monologue.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Yeah, he's like, I waited for you.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, life, he's been way too long monologue.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
I've been waiting for you for the last thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
And then they end up failing because they spent too
long explaining their evil plan. That's what James does.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
And then Edward comes to the rescue and they have
a fight a vampire off, if you were, and the
rest of them slowly get there in their own time.
But then Bella gets pushed into the glass and then
falls down and then James reaches for our arms and
bit bites it. So he bites a arm.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
And in this world, so every vampire universe has its
own rules of how you become a vampire, like in
a lot of different vampire law and this is the
official from the original Dracula book. It's like the vampire
has to drink from you, and then you have to
drink from them, and then your body has to die,
and then you have to be reborn as a vampire.
That's just vampire fact from the origin story from Transylvania,
(46:38):
which Emily has learned in the last year is a
real place.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
You can call me under that we're not even talking
about that.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Or roads ly back to that. In this particular universe,
vampirism happens via the venom that all vampires have coated
over their teeth. So anyone who is bitten, no matter
who drinks blood or who does what, as soon as
you're bitten, you start turning into a vampire, which is
also the Law and Sinners coming full.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Of except sinners. It's like, you can literally maul the
person and you will still be a vampire.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yeah, well know that it has to be a bite
and sin it.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So James bites Bella. They defeat James,
but Bella is like now turning right.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
So Carla was like, Edward, you have to do it
because I'll kill her if I try to suck the
venom man. So Edward's like, I've got this, suck starts
sucking the vendom man, and then Carl's like, think you
got it, you got it? Edward stop? Whin did Edward stop?
And then her like I start rolling? That scared me
so much as a kid.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Yeah, I was like, Edward stop. Do you know that
Kristin Stewart. Everyone's like, oh, she looks so gross that scene.
She looks ugly and there's a lot of There was
a lot of like kind of pushback at the time
that this actress didn't look beautiful in this moment. I
was like, she's literally dying. Give her a break. Kristin
Schuwitt's not there to be pretty. She's very much said,
she's a serious actress. She was playing the part of
a woman who was dying horrible death.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
And then the screen goes to black and we're like,
did Edward stop? What happened? And then the next scene
is like she's in hospital. She's in the hospital bed,
and she wakes up and Edward's sleeping on the couch.
Even the rampires I'm in sleep. So I don't know
what he was doing.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Was he pretending to sleep? He was just resting his eyes?
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Mmm, sounds fake, sounds performative.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Okay, performative sleep. I think he was just.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Nervous to see her, so he was like, I'm going
to pretend to be asleep. Renee comes to hospital to
see Bella, her daughter, so she obviously cut her honeymo
in short. I'm sure she was very upset about that.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
She's like, oh, the gll gome to my daughter. She
only died that's dies.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
I'm sorry, I have to go back to Washington. Yeah,
last place I want to be. And then she's like,
we bought a new house and there's new other place.
Come live with us. I want you to live with us.
And then Edward's still sleeping on the couch.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Well yeah, because he's pretending to be asleep so that
Renee and Bella can have their private moment.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
It makes sense, Okay, I wouldn't. I would have been
wide away.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
And Bella has broken legs and broken limbs and everything
from the throw.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
So yeah, she's got a moon boot on.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, So she's in a bad spot. And that's when
she Edward like wants to not be with her anymore
pretty much right because she's so badly hurt, and she
was like, no, I want to be with you anyway.
And then they go to Prom and they have this
there's almost this moment that Edward is kind of like
leaning Bella down he and she thinks that he's going
because she's already made the decision that she wants to
be an empire. Yeah, which I even know.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
Jacob tried to interject he also came to prom, yeah yeah,
and he was like dump him, and she was like no,
and then Jacob's like all right, and then.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
He lives She's talking a big game for a woman
who's wearing a gross prom dress with a cardigan. Your
boyfriend nearly killed you and that too.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
I was more upset with the car, but I.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Liked I liked how they get in and they're like,
we're too cool for this, Let's go outside. Yeah, and
then they had that like slow dance moment outside, which
is also similar to Cinderella Story, which is also similar
to cas Burn.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Wendy Yeah, and also the original Castle Love story. That's
the thing. At the end of the day. I think
Catherine Hardwick was trying to make this like indie drama,
and she did to an extent, but at the end
of the day, it is still a teen romance. And
that's why it had to finish at prom with them
having a dance and having this moment and Edward pretending
to bite her neck colorious, and then her like accepting
(50:06):
death in that moment even though she's seventeen, has no
idea what's happening, and then and Edwards saying that he
wasn't going to bite her, but they were going to
continue to be together.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Well little tease.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Yeah, it's very exciting. And then the stakes are so
high because then we cut to Victoria right, Yeah, she's
the last thing we see with her iconic red hair.
And then that actress was replaced by Bryce Stellis Howard.
Brutal movies are brutal. She was great, but they then
once the movie blew up in such a huge way,
and then all of a sudden, they're like, well, we
(50:35):
have a bigger budget, We're gonna hire bigger actors, we're
gonna have bigger sets. And that's when it became this
whole big, glossy franchise and people were replaced. But yeah, Twilight,
what a what a trip down memory lane.
Speaker 4 (50:45):
I want to watch it again, even though I just
watched it last week.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
There's never enough.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
There's never enough, never enough, Twilight.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
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