December 22, 2024 • 7 mins
While Miley Cyrus has had the best of both worlds, she's certainly faced her fair share of controversy.
From that weird tongue thing to swinging on a wrecking ball, and of course that wild open letter from a concerned singer.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mom and Maya
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this
podcast is recorded on Hello, and welcome to Canceled, The
(00:31):
Lazy Girl's Guide to bizarre celebrity cancelations. We hope you're
taking a much deserved rest over here. We're kind of
doing the opposite because for the next few weeks we're
putting on a hot pod summer Hands off so hot
right now, handsolve this three times a week for three weeks.
You do the mass. We have not done the mass.
We have no idea how many that is, but you'll
(00:52):
find us talking about your favorite celebrities and all podcasts
at mm Maya will have brand new episodes about the
topics we couldn't stop talking about this year. But first,
we have one thing for you lazy girls to do.
One action point. Whatever you do, make sure you're subscribed
canceled in your favorite podcast app miss an episode. We
also know that you're feeling particularly lazy right now because
(01:15):
it's holidays. You're not meant to have to do anything.
And if you're not on holidays, which a lot of
you won't be because you keep the country running with
important work while us lazy girls have a lie down.
We know you need things to be simple and easy,
so we're giving you some of our favorite moments from
Canceled this year. Today's subject is Miley Cyrus. Miley was
(01:36):
a Disney star almost twenty years ago. She played Hannah Montana,
and since then she has faced her fair share of controversy. Yes,
there was a weird tongue thing at the VMA's swinging
on a wrecking ball and saying drugs are for idiots
and then doing some drugs. We've looked into her whole life.
We did a big episode on Miley right after she
won her first Grammy in February this year, and what
(01:59):
you're about to hear about is our favorite moment. It's
about an open letter Miley received just after her iconic
VMA's performance, an open letter from Snead O'Connor claire. Sometimes
you work so hard that Shaneade must say something. She
is a singer of nothing compares to you, and she
felt compelled to publish an open letter about Miley that
(02:24):
she would post on the Internet for everyone to read.
This was also in twenty thirteen, So we've got VMA's
I think it was. In the weeks afterwards, she releases
Wrecking Ball. I came in like good and banger another
absolute banger. I look back, I go the film clip
was a bit of fun. Why do we all have
our panties and or not? She was naked on a ball,
(02:47):
It's great, loved her hair anyway. In that time she'd
also done the Rolling Stone story about how much she
loved the drugs. Here are some excerpts from Shaneade. She
did say at the beginning, this came from motherly place,
so important context. I am extremely concerned for you that
those around you have led you to believe, or encouraged
you in your own belief that it is in any
(03:08):
way cool to be naked and licking sledge hammers and videos. Wait,
really did she say the sledgehammer bit? Yeah, yep, Oh
my god. It is in fact the case that you
will obscure your talent by allowing yourself to be pimped,
whether it's the music business or yourself doing the pimping.
She goes on, the music business doesn't give a shit
about you or any of us. They will prostitute you
(03:30):
for all you are worth and cleverly make you think
it's what you wanted. And when you end up in
rehab as a result of being prostituted, they will be
sunning themselves on their yachts in antiqua, which they bought
by selling your body, and you will find yourself very alone.
I would be encouraging you to send healthier messages to
your peers that they and you are worth more than
what is currently going on in your career. Miley was
(03:52):
very mature in her response. She wasn't. She wasn't. She
got on Twitter and she said, Shanaide, I don't have
time to write you an open letter because I'm hosting
and performing on SNL this week. She then compared Shanaid
to Amanda Bynes. Amanda Bynes was having a rough time,
and then she screenshot a tweet where Shanade had talked
(04:13):
about her mental health and where it was clear that
she was, you know, in a low moment. Shanaide replied.
Then Miley replied, and there was a lot of back
and forth, and in the meantime, Robin was in the
corner humping while his mother got angry at any woman
who walked past hump. Okay, what I will say about this.
(04:42):
I remember seeing the Shanade O'Connor letter at the time
and agreeing with it. Okay, I think I was a
prude in twenty thirteen. Yeah, we were all prused in
twenty thirteen. But here's what I'll say about shanaid it's
a really enlightening letter, and I thought about why she
made it open and not closed, and I think she
(05:03):
was trying to convey something not just to Miley, but
to the culture at the time, which is that this
is a product and a machine. It's being made by
men behind the scenes. So it was like she was
embarrassed for Miley, and she kind of wanted to explain.
She had some good points about people profiting off your body.
She's the word prostitute wage man. Yeah, no, no, no, it
(05:23):
was inappropriate. I liked the detail about antiquity. Yeah, I
did like that she had some points, But I think
maybe the twenty twenty four version of that is it's
actually not an open letter to Miley. Yeah, it's bigger
than that, And when you look back, it seems absurd
that a woman was speaking down to another one about
(05:44):
how she was presenting herse Miley was fine, and I
feel like I understand Miley's defensiveness as well. Yeah, wasn't
there a celebrity who when she did that? Twenty thirteen
BMA's performance said something about like, don't stick your tongue
out when it's coated. I've always thought about that because
she quoted yeah and drugs. No, it's sort of had
(06:05):
like a white coating. Oh no, maybe she had her
thrush Yeah, well okay, I found it. So Cher told
USA today, I'm not old fashioned about Miley. She could
have come out naked, and if she just rocked the house,
I would have said, you go girl. It just wasn't
done well. She can't dance. Her body looked like hell,
(06:26):
the song wasn't great. One cheek was hanging out, and chick,
don't stick out your tongue if it's coated. I'm sure bitch. Yes. Now,
there was all this discussion and there were all these
articles about why was her tongue coded. One was apparently,
if you've recently taken antibioty, then it's like killed the
(06:47):
good bacteria or something. Well, isn't that when you get
a bit thrushy? Yeah? I think you get a little
bit thrushy. So she needed a probiotic, Yes, that is
what she is saying. Is it defamation to suggest someone
has oral thrush um? Yeah. So then Chare's comments went
viral and she clearly felt a little bit guilty for
accusing a woman of having oral tsh. Yeah, and she said,
(07:10):
I'm a little ashamed. I didn't keep my big opinionated
mouth shut. What I should have said is I didn't
like the performance that much, but she's pushing the envelope
being an artist. She's talented and didn't commit a felony.
I think she really was a bit like, I don't
know why I said that about the tongue. Do you
believe in holding yourself? Yeah, the tongue. But the second
(07:34):
bit said to clarify, I hated the performance, and I
was like, no, no, we got that, Yeah, we got
the hated it. To listen to that entire episode, just
click the link in our show notes, we're recanceling more
celebs pressed to his or TV shows every week over
the summer break. You can find videos from the podcast
and evidence of the celebrity crimes on our Instagram at
(07:56):
the Twins Underscore Thoughts, or on TikTok At. Canceled the
podcast
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mom and Maya
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this
podcast is recorded on Hello, and welcome to Canceled, The
(00:31):
Lazy Girl's Guide to bizarre celebrity cancelations. We hope you're
taking a much deserved rest over here. We're kind of
doing the opposite because for the next few weeks we're
putting on a hot pod summer Hands off so hot
right now, handsolve this three times a week for three weeks.
You do the mass. We have not done the mass.
We have no idea how many that is, but you'll
(00:52):
find us talking about your favorite celebrities and all podcasts
at mm Maya will have brand new episodes about the
topics we couldn't stop talking about this year. But first,
we have one thing for you lazy girls to do.
One action point. Whatever you do, make sure you're subscribed
canceled in your favorite podcast app miss an episode. We
also know that you're feeling particularly lazy right now because
(01:15):
it's holidays. You're not meant to have to do anything.
And if you're not on holidays, which a lot of
you won't be because you keep the country running with
important work while us lazy girls have a lie down.
We know you need things to be simple and easy,
so we're giving you some of our favorite moments from
Canceled this year. Today's subject is Miley Cyrus. Miley was
(01:36):
a Disney star almost twenty years ago. She played Hannah Montana,
and since then she has faced her fair share of controversy. Yes,
there was a weird tongue thing at the VMA's swinging
on a wrecking ball and saying drugs are for idiots
and then doing some drugs. We've looked into her whole life.
We did a big episode on Miley right after she
won her first Grammy in February this year, and what
(01:59):
you're about to hear about is our favorite moment. It's
about an open letter Miley received just after her iconic
VMA's performance, an open letter from Snead O'Connor claire. Sometimes
you work so hard that Shaneade must say something. She
is a singer of nothing compares to you, and she
felt compelled to publish an open letter about Miley that
(02:24):
she would post on the Internet for everyone to read.
This was also in twenty thirteen, So we've got VMA's
I think it was. In the weeks afterwards, she releases
Wrecking Ball. I came in like good and banger another
absolute banger. I look back, I go the film clip
was a bit of fun. Why do we all have
our panties and or not? She was naked on a ball,
(02:47):
It's great, loved her hair anyway. In that time she'd
also done the Rolling Stone story about how much she
loved the drugs. Here are some excerpts from Shaneade. She
did say at the beginning, this came from motherly place,
so important context. I am extremely concerned for you that
those around you have led you to believe, or encouraged
you in your own belief that it is in any
(03:08):
way cool to be naked and licking sledge hammers and videos. Wait,
really did she say the sledgehammer bit? Yeah, yep, Oh
my god. It is in fact the case that you
will obscure your talent by allowing yourself to be pimped,
whether it's the music business or yourself doing the pimping.
She goes on, the music business doesn't give a shit
about you or any of us. They will prostitute you
(03:30):
for all you are worth and cleverly make you think
it's what you wanted. And when you end up in
rehab as a result of being prostituted, they will be
sunning themselves on their yachts in antiqua, which they bought
by selling your body, and you will find yourself very alone.
I would be encouraging you to send healthier messages to
your peers that they and you are worth more than
what is currently going on in your career. Miley was
(03:52):
very mature in her response. She wasn't. She wasn't. She
got on Twitter and she said, Shanaide, I don't have
time to write you an open letter because I'm hosting
and performing on SNL this week. She then compared Shanaid
to Amanda Bynes. Amanda Bynes was having a rough time,
and then she screenshot a tweet where Shanade had talked
(04:13):
about her mental health and where it was clear that
she was, you know, in a low moment. Shanaide replied.
Then Miley replied, and there was a lot of back
and forth, and in the meantime, Robin was in the
corner humping while his mother got angry at any woman
who walked past hump. Okay, what I will say about this.
(04:42):
I remember seeing the Shanade O'Connor letter at the time
and agreeing with it. Okay, I think I was a
prude in twenty thirteen. Yeah, we were all prused in
twenty thirteen. But here's what I'll say about shanaid it's
a really enlightening letter, and I thought about why she
made it open and not closed, and I think she
(05:03):
was trying to convey something not just to Miley, but
to the culture at the time, which is that this
is a product and a machine. It's being made by
men behind the scenes. So it was like she was
embarrassed for Miley, and she kind of wanted to explain.
She had some good points about people profiting off your body.
She's the word prostitute wage man. Yeah, no, no, no, it
(05:23):
was inappropriate. I liked the detail about antiquity. Yeah, I
did like that she had some points, But I think
maybe the twenty twenty four version of that is it's
actually not an open letter to Miley. Yeah, it's bigger
than that, And when you look back, it seems absurd
that a woman was speaking down to another one about
(05:44):
how she was presenting herse Miley was fine, and I
feel like I understand Miley's defensiveness as well. Yeah, wasn't
there a celebrity who when she did that? Twenty thirteen
BMA's performance said something about like, don't stick your tongue
out when it's coated. I've always thought about that because
she quoted yeah and drugs. No, it's sort of had
(06:05):
like a white coating. Oh no, maybe she had her
thrush Yeah, well okay, I found it. So Cher told
USA today, I'm not old fashioned about Miley. She could
have come out naked, and if she just rocked the house,
I would have said, you go girl. It just wasn't
done well. She can't dance. Her body looked like hell,
(06:26):
the song wasn't great. One cheek was hanging out, and chick,
don't stick out your tongue if it's coated. I'm sure bitch. Yes. Now,
there was all this discussion and there were all these
articles about why was her tongue coded. One was apparently,
if you've recently taken antibioty, then it's like killed the
(06:47):
good bacteria or something. Well, isn't that when you get
a bit thrushy? Yeah? I think you get a little
bit thrushy. So she needed a probiotic, Yes, that is
what she is saying. Is it defamation to suggest someone
has oral thrush um? Yeah. So then Chare's comments went
viral and she clearly felt a little bit guilty for
accusing a woman of having oral tsh. Yeah, and she said,
(07:10):
I'm a little ashamed. I didn't keep my big opinionated
mouth shut. What I should have said is I didn't
like the performance that much, but she's pushing the envelope
being an artist. She's talented and didn't commit a felony.
I think she really was a bit like, I don't
know why I said that about the tongue. Do you
believe in holding yourself? Yeah, the tongue. But the second
(07:34):
bit said to clarify, I hated the performance, and I
was like, no, no, we got that, Yeah, we got
the hated it. To listen to that entire episode, just
click the link in our show notes, we're recanceling more
celebs pressed to his or TV shows every week over
the summer break. You can find videos from the podcast
and evidence of the celebrity crimes on our Instagram at
(07:56):
the Twins Underscore Thoughts, or on TikTok At. Canceled the
podcast
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