June 11, 2025 • 48 mins
You know what they say—three podcasters walk into a studio… and forget why they came in. But not this time! In this episode of Cannabis Enlightened, Dr. Leroy welcomes Puff Provisions founder Mark Reyes, a father, cannabis advocate, and self-declared “chief cook and bottle washer” of his podcast. Mark breaks down what it means to be a responsible consumer in a world still catching up to cannabis culture—and how being a dad with a vape pen doesn’t make you a rebel, just relaxed.
Also joining the mic is Arianna Salazar, clinical herbalist and spiritual coach, who adds a touch of plant-based wisdom to the mix. Together, the trio talks about busting myths, modern consumption methods (from tinctures to mocktails), and why everyone from grandma to Gen Z deserves good weed and better information.
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Some key moments from this episode include:
00:00:39 – Welcome to Cannabis Enlightened (and Dad Jokes)
00:03:14 – Meet Mark Reyes: Puff Provisions and Podcasting Solo
00:07:34 – Arianna Salazar’s Herbalist Journey and Cannabis Roots
00:10:38 – Why Most People Turn to Cannabis: Stress Relief
00:16:40 – Topical Cannabis: A Natural Alternative to Lidocaine
00:17:55 – What Does a Cannabis User Really Look Like?
00:25:30 – The Smell Stigma: Cannabis Aroma and Social Perception
00:30:48 – Crafting Cannabis Mocktails: A New Way to Dose
00:34:59 – Bridging Legalization and Cultural Acceptance
00:40:19 – The Comic Book That Changed Mark’s Cannabis Perspective
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S2 (00:53):
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S1 (01:08):
This is cannabis enlightened with Doctor Leroy.
S3 (01:11):
Hey everybody, welcome to Cannabis Enlightened. Welcome to another fantastic
episode of Cannabis Enlightened. To my continuing audience and to
new audience. Thank you for listening and welcome again, as always,
My podcast, Cannabis Enlightened podcast are sponsored by March and Ash.
(01:34):
You got to come to March and Ash if you're
looking for quality, quality cannabis once again, we're being broadcast
from the oldest media studio and making sure that everything
works right. Everything looks good, everything sounds good is Jake
and Lena, thank you very much. One of our newest
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assistant producers is with me today to help with my
to assist as I talk to our guests, Mr. Mark Reyes,
that I'll introduce in a minute. Um, Arianna Salazar is
going to assist me. And I got to tell you,
ladies and gentlemen, um, although you probably won't see because
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this is a podcast, that she is as beautiful as
she is smart. So, you know, don't be thinking because
you're here. You know what she's saying? You're thinking to yourself, oh, yeah? Well,
she sounds good. Yeah, she looks good too. So we're
going to have her come on in a minute. Also, um,
the guest that I have is someone that was brought
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to me by a really good friend. He is a
gentleman that resides in North County. Yes, sir. Because we're
in Mission Valley. So he's he's from he's resides in Escondido,
and he has his own podcast in which he is
the chief cook and bottle washer. He does everything. And
(03:07):
that's true. You know, I want the audience to know
how important that is, because when I come in to
do my podcast, I pretty much am told, I am
told where to sit. Are you ready and go? That's
what Lena tells me to do as my producer. But
Mark does all of that himself. Marc Reyes from Escondido.
(03:28):
I appreciate you being here. Um, thank you for having
me here. Let's have you communicate with your audience, your
listening audience, and to tell the cannabis enlightened audience, you
know who you are and what's going on with you. Excellent.
S4 (03:43):
Well, thank you for having me here, first and foremost. Hi, everyone.
My name is Marc on social media. I'm at Puff Provisions, Marc,
and I'm one of three of your hosts at the
Puff Provisions podcast. We've been streaming online for about six years.
All your major platforms that you know of, Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
so on and so forth. Um, and you can just
visit us directly if you didn't know any clue whatsoever,
(04:03):
just go to Puff Provisions Dotcom and get sucked into
our world right then and there. And it really is
all about, in a nutshell, cannabis advocacy through a very
unique lens of three fathers, dads, full time desktop athletes
striving to figure out how recreational cannabis emphasis on recreational
plugs into our modern day world. Why do vape pens
look like USB drives? Should I smoke it or eat it?
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What would my kids think? So it's things like that
in our nature and our conversations where we yes, we
do deviate because obviously it's inferred that we're very much,
you know, on a flower or an edible. And those
edibles do hit quickly. Um, however, you know, we wanted
to take a firm stance after prop 64 was baptized
in 2016 to really take initiative in an effort for
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advocacy in our own way. That was not typical of
what we've seen up until now. And I guess what
you could mean by that is the more traditional forms
and no disrespect whatsoever to what we grew up with
in pop culture references. For example, you know, Cheech and Chong, um,
any how high movies or, you know, Friday with Ice
Cube and Chris Tucker and things like that and other
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ways through song and dance where it's, you know, kind
of implied about, you know, cannabis and things of that nature,
knowing that.
S3 (05:17):
How long Mark have you been, um, doing your, your,
your podcast since 2019.
S4 (05:23):
19 officially. Yeah. So, like you said, I'm the cook,
the dishwasher and everything in between. The bookkeeper, audio, video,
excuse me. Website coding, everything. Graphic design. Um, pretty much,
in my view, specific to cannabis advocacy. There is no
cost for me. I am willing to go up to
bat any given day of the week to talk about it,
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to think about it, to consume it responsibly, emphasis on responsibly. Um,
because we are in a generational moment where it's never
going to happen again. And once we're out of it
and we pass these decisions on to the next generation,
it's my hope that everyone in this room and everyone
listening made the right choice and made the right examples
along the way for them to pick up and move
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forward with it. I'm not on. I'm not on Earth
for a long time. None of us are. So you
might as well do some good with it and break
any of those antiquated narratives that we inherited generationally, year
over year, decade over decade is.
S3 (06:17):
The most recent podcast that you put out. What was
that about?
S4 (06:21):
It was Those are the more fun ones. When we
get to the burr months like September, October and November.
So that was a happy holidays one highly days one.
But the one that I really wanted to bring forth
and promote was interpreting Gen Z slang, which I'm very
terrible at. I'm not part of that umbrella, whatever demographic
you want to call it on Wikipedia, I'm not. And
I was really testing myself alongside APA, APA, provisions, Mike
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and Daryl, my two other colleagues that cohost with me on.
Could we really unfrock some of this cryptic, cryptic, um,
semantics that I'm seeing in, in the modern day light?
And I couldn't I failed miserably.
S3 (06:58):
So I'm glad you mentioned their name, because I was
thinking that you talked about, you know, two others, but
if you didn't mention their names, I can imagine that
once you get back to Escondido, they will be beating
you on the head. Well, you didn't talk about me.
You didn't say my name. Oh, no.
S4 (07:13):
APA provisions, Mike. APA provisions. Daryl. That's how you can
access us in our own unique ways. But again, if
if you forget everything, just go to puff provisions. Com
everything is housed there. Okay.
S3 (07:24):
Well great. Great. And you know, I was thrilled to
hear that there's somebody else doing, you know, something similar
to cannabis. Enlightened. You know, interacting with the audience, talking
about different topics that are cannabis related. So it's good
to have you here. And thank you very much. I
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intend to hear a lot more from you as we
continue into our topic. Um, but right now we have
Arianna Salazar, my assistant producer, who hello, hello, I think
is doing some different things right now, aren't you? You're. Yes.
Can you tell us what's going on with you right now?
S5 (08:03):
Yes. So I am a clinical herbalist at a movement hospital.
It is a startup movement hospital practicing integrative wellness, orthopedic
physical therapy, a performance floor. We don't call it a
gym performance floor. um, and nutritionist. We have a conscious chef.
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So basically bringing in. Yeah, the enlightenment of healing and
natural medicine along with science in this space. And as
a clinical herbalist, I love it because I have my
own brand. It's blissed herbs. I have my own apothecary.
So I make tea blends, candles, um, and I also
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do spiritual coaching and it all kind of like synergizes
together in the same thing, which is really fun. And
I worked in the cannabis industry for since 2016, 17.
So I've been in very passionate about this plant and
its healing modalities and how it's changed my life and others,
and working in the retail side from the marketing and
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now just specializing in herbology and botany and really just
standing in tune with the sacred indigenous indigenous medicine. Cannabis
has had so much different effects on different people I've
seen over time, even with my herbal client intake. And
I really think this is a beautiful healing plant that
has opened me up to so many different things.
S4 (09:28):
I'm glad, you know. I'm glad avenues like you exist,
because we have to start thinking outside of what we've
been taught, not to negate anything that's already been proven scientifically.
But we have to realize that you have to expand
outside of just traditional prescriptions. And that orange bottle as
the first, you know, knee jerk reaction approach, because there
are qualities to life that we were taught or surrounded
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by our resources and things of that nature, especially with,
you know, you know, consumer packaged goods and, you know,
processed food and things like that, where it's really taken,
taken a hit and this, you know, transcends cannabis, obviously.
But like knowing that these types of professions exist, like
with you and with Doctor Leroy here and everything else
in the surrounding cannabis context, it's important to always put
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it out there with honesty and decency and yes, still
express doubt because we are in unforeseen territory at this
time until schedule one is totally eradicated.
S3 (10:21):
Exactly.
S5 (10:21):
Yep. You have a point.
S3 (10:23):
Well, we're going to have a good discussion here, um,
this afternoon, because we've got two people that are coming
at it from similar but different points of view. Because
what we're going to talk about is why cannabis users,
why or how they deserve better representation, or maybe even
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better cannabis quality of cannabis. What cannabis is used for,
what people use it for, what they could use it for.
So why don't we open it up with you, Mark? Sure. What's.
What kind of cannabis do you think? Um, most people
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appreciate or want.
S4 (11:07):
In all honesty, every age group doesn't matter ethnic background,
gender or any of that stuff. It's really stress relief
after a hard days of whatever of your daily life. Okay. And,
you know, everyone and anyone that's covertly spoken with me
because it is still, to some respects, in my inner circle,
you know, a quiet topic, not a shameful topic, but
it's quiet.
S3 (11:28):
Quiet? Because of what?
S4 (11:29):
Quiet because it's still misunderstood. It's not okay. You and
I could be at the happy hour right now, and
we could talk about the Super Bowl. Yeah. That just
recently happened. You and I could talk politics if we
wanted to. We could talk about religion. Religion, for crying
out loud. That could. That creates wars outside of politics.
But cannabis, no one really brings that up unless you
pull them to the side and say, hey, you know,
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I've been taking this or I've been taking that. Is
this CBD or whatever this case may be, or some
new piece of vocabulary coming from the industry. Is this
going to help me out with my ailment or with
my stress? And it's really all about, in my view,
you know, not speaking in context to being a working
professional or a consultant in the industry, just simply a
recreational user. And at one point, I was a medicinal
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user when I could only get access that way through
a medical card. Right. Um, it really is stress. Now
it's about modifying all that and saying, yes, of course
I support you if you want to use it, and
you should still be empowered to say no. Just say
no is still something that I am an ambassador of,
just not in the legacy context that it was driven
with through the Reagan administration in the 80s. But you
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should still be empowered to be safe and say no
if this stuff isn't for you. However, if you want
to step through that door, right. I see that the
law of averages at all time when I talk, when
I talk to a version of you or you, um,
in a more safe setting is it's just really stress
relief after a long days of whatever in life.
S3 (12:50):
Mark, do you think that's generational or stress? Well, the
the stress or the or the using of it using
of cannabis.
S4 (13:01):
Generational for stress. The using of cannabis? No. Because in
this modern day context, which I'm still trying to inform
myself on, there are so many ways to apply cannabis
outside of flower. Now, when I grew up. And I'd
like to think you and I specifically share this sentiment,
because that's all we knew. That was what I knew
of a dime bag. I knew of a gram. I
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knew of an ounce. I know how to measure that stuff.
And that's the vocabulary in the context I would talk to. Yes.
To be perfectly honest, before it was legal, you know,
that's how you would talk to to someone who was
in the know of that kind of stuff. And that
was really the way to apply cannabis. Now, in the
modern day sense, you could go down to the retailer
over at March and Ash and similar and similar dispensaries,
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and you have different ways of applying outside of just
traditional flower. You've got the vapes, you've got salves, you've got,
you know.
S5 (13:48):
Tinctures.
S4 (13:49):
Tinctures and stuff like that. And that is way outside
of my wheelhouse still, because, you know, learning the efficacies
of all of those, it's still very biased because, you know,
scientific studies are very, very small still. Because again, I
always I will say, I blame schedule one for blocking
the growth of this. Um, but I think the generational part,
to your point and to your question, is about application
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of cannabis versus stress, because every generation doesn't matter if
you're the boomers or if you're Gen Z, Gen Y,
Gen X, or any of that stuff, we all are
carrying a certain amount of lifestyle stress. Mhm. Yeah. So
that stuff doesn't change. And you know, it's really about
looking at these as either in the recreational context or
the medicinal context, whatever the case may be, when you
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step through those doors, knowing that this is happening with cannabis,
even though we're nine years out from prop 64 and
many years out from the first hemp act, and it
only being, you know, what was it, Colorado and Washington
state being the only legal states at that time?
S3 (14:49):
In the beginning.
S4 (14:49):
In the very beginning. Right. We're way past that, but
yet we're still sitting idle and static in a certain
point in the year 2025.
S3 (14:56):
You know, I think we've got something like 37 states now, right,
that that have cannabis, right. Legal either between recreational or medical.
S4 (15:06):
Right. Right, right. And that's the thing, like I noticed
when we when we here in California voted yes for
prop 64in 2016. That's when I really started, like passively
take inventory and pay attention more to the current events
specific to cannabis, irrespective of who was in house. As president,
I just wanted to take a year over year and
it built up year over year until 2019, where I
(15:28):
was like, whoa. The voting context between state to state
is really getting adopted in orders of magnitude. It went
from two states to like eight states to now over
37in just the blink of an eye. With only a
slight halt in the last election cycle in 2024. True. Um,
and and for those reasons, I don't I could speculate
all I want, but I don't know what really dialed
(15:48):
the knobs for it to go. No. Instead of yes
to legalization in Florida and things of that nature. Um,
that's out of my wheelhouse. But, you know, it it
took me when I was really carrying momentum. I'm paying
attention more to current events, current events, current events. When
2019 happened at the at the start of the Puff
Provisions podcast, I said to my friends, I was like,
something big is happening here and it is our responsibility
(16:11):
to do something about it, not just enjoy it. Of
course I want to enjoy it. It's a it's a
no brainer. Yeah, but there's a shift going on. And
I cannot ignore this fact because once it's gone and
I pass it on to my children's friends, I mean
my friends children and my own children, my my decisions
that I make here today, like, are you safe? Or
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at least are you at a better starting point than
what we were? Because you and I are, and you
as well were in a disservice from what we were taught.
S3 (16:39):
You brought up something that that I think Ariana can, um,
highlight in terms of application. I mentioned applications, you know. Yeah.
Which is different types of cannabis and different types of
cannabis use. Yes. So Ariana as a herbalist. Mhm. Um,
what other ways besides consuming would someone look at or
(17:04):
use cannabis Topically.
S5 (17:09):
Um, so basically salves or gels, um, people with arthritis pain,
they are looking they have lidocaine patches in the pharmacy.
So lidocaine is a form of relaxing the nerves and
the muscles from, you know, recovering through stress or an
event or some type of injury. Um, cannabis. I actually
(17:30):
do have a client who who's interested, and he's a
little bit of an older guy, and he wants to
know more about what other options are there, instead of
muscle relaxers and Vicodin and lidocaine patches. And this is
where I came into. Have you tried topical cannabis products? Um,
1 to 1 ratio of THC and CBD or they
even have CBD patches. Um, does.
S4 (17:53):
The 1 to 1 ratio still make it psychoactive or. No,
because because.
S5 (17:56):
It's going through the body. Through the skin. Got it.
As opposed to the digestive tract. So. Gotcha. Uh, the
skin absorption, it goes through the fat cells and the blood.
So you're feeling those effects as opposed to getting high
off those effects.
S4 (18:10):
But the onset would be more delayed, right? Yes. Okay.
Got it, got it, got it.
S5 (18:14):
Exactly. And then I had a question. Sure. What does
a better representation of a cannabis user look like to you?
S4 (18:24):
Physically it is probably. No. Yeah, I'll answer that question.
It is the most boring description, the most vanilla ice
cream I could imagine. Because that's who it should be for.
It doesn't just have to be the one that the
one person that's peacocking in the room. It can be
for anyone and for everyone if you're willing to open
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the door. Don't pull yet. Study first and understand before
you make an informed decision. Because I do see cannabis
and its value outside of just the pop culture references
that we've we see on a daily basis. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, so, yeah,
that's really like on a physical level, it doesn't matter.
You could paint your canvas that way. It is boring.
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It is. It is unsugared corn flakes. It is. It is,
you know, peanut butter without the jelly. That's how I
look at it.
S3 (19:16):
I think if you and I've done this before, because
I visit a lot of the March and Ash dispensaries. Oh, awesome.
In terms of of just getting to know what's going on,
you will find a lot of different types of people.
S6 (19:33):
Yeah, yeah.
S3 (19:34):
That go in and come out of a cannabis shop.
I mean, if you had a thought in your mind that, oh,
I'm only going to see, you know, seedy looking people
coming out of a cannabis shop in the first place.
Most cannabis shops, the March and Ash cannabis shops are
very well decorated. Bright. Oh, yeah.
S4 (19:53):
The retail design is on point.
S3 (19:54):
You know, it's tremendous. And then you'll see young, you'll
see middle aged, you'll see seniors. Yes. You know, um,
because of the some of the things that you had
just mentioned, Arianna that that you can put it on
your skin, you know, for arthritis or something like that.
S4 (20:09):
So of course, you know, like me, I, it's hard
for me to break, you know, things that I feel
work for me. So I do, you know, uh, dive
deep into flour and things of that nature. But I'm
also timed with it, too. I don't just puff on
any on any part of the hour, you know that
that for me, and this is more of an emotional
relationship that I have with it, or a sensible, practical,
(20:31):
pragmatic relationship that I have with it. Because I'm older now.
I'm not, I'm not I'm not 19 in the dorm. Okay.
You know, that's gone. That version of Puff Provisions Mark
is gone.
S3 (20:42):
You know, I'm older now.
S4 (20:43):
And, you know, I've refined it to being like, you know,
it is my version of red wine. Once the clock
hits 830. Okay, you can go ahead and do that
kind of mentality. So I treat my usage as responsibly.
S5 (20:56):
Boundaries and kind of having timeframes with yourself. So you're
building that respect with the plant.
S4 (21:01):
Because I can't I this is one thing where I
don't share in the philosophy. Like I fail at wake
and bake. It's not going to work for me. Yeah.
So it's okay when you.
S3 (21:10):
Say wake and bake?
S4 (21:11):
Yeah. That cultural expression where the moment you wake up,
you light one up are kind of mentality. Okay. And,
you know, clever cute and stuff like that. And for
those of you that it works for you. Awesome. It
fails for me. And I know not to do that.
So like to your point boundaries and setting those things.
So those are the other things as a recreational consumer
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and medicinal too. You've got to be aware of at
all times. And no one trains you or gives you
a book on that. You just have to look in
the mirror and be assertive of it. Yeah. And you know,
if you have a highly addictive personality already, is cannabis
appropriate for you? Toss up question. You really have to
answer that yourself.
S3 (21:49):
Yeah, yeah, I'd say the same thing to to a
lot of people that, you know, some people say, well doctor,
do you think cannabis would be for me? I said,
I don't know, you know, maybe you try a little.
S4 (22:02):
Yes.
S3 (22:03):
Oh, yes, you try a little.
S4 (22:04):
Very good call. Very good call.
S3 (22:06):
If you like it. I always tell them. Try a
little and wait and wait.
S4 (22:12):
I've gotten similar advice to. And it works. That is
the probably the most pragmatic way of thinking and approaching anything,
including cannabis, is to not even necessarily microdose, because you're
not even there on that protocol yet. It's just if
you're in that curious phase, small is the best way,
because if you go deep, it's unforgiving and you don't
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want to have that negative impression, obviously. And also identify
what are you using it for, like how you ask me,
it's like the stress part. Exactly. Things of that nature.
And to your clients out there that are, you know, in,
in actual, you know, medical ailments.
S6 (22:46):
Yeah.
S5 (22:46):
And I say with all plants, um, just from an
herbal perspective and understanding how plants affect the body, you know,
cannabis in kava, we have all these very strong plants
that have very strong effects to the body really rapidly.
So with anything, start slow and go. So when every
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time I tell people with certain types of herbal blends
with lavender or, you know, can I mix this with this,
I'm like, start slow. Everybody's body is different. You know,
everybody's weight and absorption rate and tolerance is different. And
so it's kind of understanding if you can start slow
you're able to pace yourself and see those effects. And
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if you want more you can add up.
S4 (23:32):
So absolutely.
S6 (23:33):
There's.
S3 (23:34):
An appreciation that I've learned. See what you two think
of this. Sure. Um, for cannabis, that's not just taking
it in. But before you even take it in, the
look and the smell.
S4 (23:49):
Oh, okay. Yeah.
S3 (23:50):
Um, is is something to be appreciated?
S4 (23:54):
Oh, absolutely.
S3 (23:55):
Based upon the strain.
S4 (23:57):
I'm flipping on my vocabulary and.
S6 (23:59):
What that is. But I know.
S4 (24:00):
What you're talking about.
S6 (24:01):
All the different.
S5 (24:02):
Appeals.
S4 (24:03):
Of earthy, floral tones.
S6 (24:04):
Yeah, piney, fruity.
S4 (24:06):
The piney ness to it. I just recently studied this,
but forgive me, but yes, I do realize where you're
coming from, and it's that level of detail you as
a consumer, you don't know until you know. But it's
important because of the amount of inventory that obviously the
dispensaries are giving out these days. It's not just, you know,
you know, a bag of stress that you're getting for
(24:26):
like ten bucks, um, kind of mentality. You actually get
to enjoy and appreciate the hard work that these cultivators
have put through to create these types of buds, uh,
off of these strains, whether you know, they're out of flower,
they grew them from, from soil, um, and other techniques
and things of that nature. But you really the more
(24:47):
you see it, you're like, whoa, I didn't know there
were this many arrangements that you could make of cannabis. Yeah,
I didn't, you know what gives me? What still gives
me a hard time, though, is, uh, the names, the names,
because it's been peppered throughout throughout the industry and misused
all across the board that I can't tell the authenticity
of if it really is, you know, Maui Wowie or
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not kind of mentality. That's a different story for a
different day. But but to your point, the scent, the
scent of it all is really where like that triggers
that trigger in a good way. Yeah, I'm using trigger
as a good vocabulary. Not bad in a good way.
So if I were to tell that person that you
were talking to to start small, you know, also smell,
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you know, give, give it give, give it a sense
of refinement. Don't even consume it just yet. Just see
where you are emotionally speaking, relative to what your senses
are telling you. And it helps.
S5 (25:39):
And speaking of smell, when it comes to back to
our topic of the stigma of the smell. So kind
of like has that, you know, the smell of weed,
the smell of weed in certain areas, or even when
you're about to hang out or do something, has that
affected you in, in, in your way or your family
or community or even.
S4 (25:59):
Oh yeah, across the board. Now, if you if you
were just speaking to me myself and I obviously have
no problem with it whatsoever. I love, I enjoy it.
It's it's an abundant aroma. And, you know, even if
I saw a guy or a gal or I sniffed
it across the street and I smelled that instead of
something else, I'd be like, that person is putting themselves
(26:20):
at peace, you know, kind of mentality. It's it's been
a long day, I get it. It's exhale that moment. Yeah.
Kind of thing. Now you're asking me about like the residual,
like the people around me and things of like that
family and friends, community and things of that nature. That
is where it's definitely a bit of a challenge. Um,
I myself, I know without people ever standing up and
saying it to my face or looking me in the
(26:41):
eye and saying, hey, stop that. I know, I'm sure
it does have an off putting effect to them. And
that's where I flip the switch and go into vape
mode quite a bit. Or I go into edible mode
if I really want to enjoy my night like that,
but I know it is. How do I say this?
When you when you consume specific strains through flour, obviously,
(27:03):
and getting that quick onset, you'll notice that the aroma
is different to on exhale. Like if you were to
be in a room and it was this type of strain,
and then you go into another room and it's this
kind of strain, you'll notice that as well where where
the aroma is completely different. So it's really what's less
off putting for you. Um, as a way to start
(27:24):
looking at it. Do I have a life hack or
a way to to, um, to resolve for those around
me that have a problem with the actual infectious odor
of it? No, unfortunately I don't. Except to say vapes
are probably the only way to do it because you
don't smell it at all.
S3 (27:39):
Um, but I think I think there may be a
reason for a way. Not a reason, but a way
for people to get around. Oh, there are there are drinkables.
S4 (27:49):
There are drinkables, uh, a fun one, a fun, a
fun one. 1 or 2. Um, Christmas exchanges ago at
Puff Provisions. Mike. Or maybe it was Darrell that did it. Um,
gave me my holiday gift for that year, and it
was one I don't know the brand, so I apologize,
but it was a device and no bigger than our hand. Um,
and it was a filter. And you would exhale after
(28:12):
consuming smoke and it would filter all of that stuff out.
And I found that to be a really novel toy device, peripheral,
whatever you want to call it. Um, and it worked.
It was very, very non-offensive or as close to being
non-offensive because. But it was ridiculous because I had to
remember to bring it or remember to hold it or
pair it to my stash kind of mentality. Um, that's
(28:33):
really the only homework assignment. And after a long day,
it's like you just want to get there in in
as close of a straight line as possible after a
long day. Um, but yeah, those those are the surrounding
life hacks that I've been presented with.
S3 (28:46):
Yeah. I want to underline again, for a lot of
listeners that whether however you consume it, you got to
consume a little bit at a time. Yes. And I
say that because I think the drinkable.
S4 (28:59):
Never had one, to be perfectly honest. Really? Yeah.
S3 (29:01):
The drinkable. Well, I've tried the drinkable before. And because
it's drinkable, you have the tendency to maybe want to
gulp a, you know, a little bit more than you
would normally do.
S6 (29:13):
Is it.
S3 (29:13):
You know, like, like you're drinking a.
S4 (29:15):
Soda energy drink or is it just they have.
S6 (29:17):
Like cans.
S5 (29:17):
Of lemonades.
S6 (29:18):
They have soft drinks. There's I mean.
S4 (29:20):
Don't get me wrong, I'm not foolish. I've seen them.
I've just never bought them myself because my personal preference
is flour.
S3 (29:24):
That could be mixed. You could mix it a drink,
a bowl with, let's say it's got, I don't know,
they go anywhere from 2.5% THC to I've seen some
that have 100%, you know, thc.
S6 (29:38):
THC 100 milligram.
S4 (29:40):
Okay. Now you need a microdose.
S6 (29:42):
It's 100%.
S4 (29:43):
THC.
S3 (29:43):
Yeah, yeah.
S6 (29:44):
Yeah, a fun.
S5 (29:44):
Little tip I like making. I make herbal mocktails already with, like,
plants and, like, tinctures and elixirs with my cannabis ones
and drinks and stuff. If I don't feel like consuming alcohol, I.
I love making like a nice little concoction, but I'm
dosing it so I get like the. Not the 100 milligram,
but I'll get 50 or a 20 or 30 and
(30:05):
then I'll pour some with ice and maybe some like
ginger ale, maybe add some sweetener and some juice to
it to make like a fun little, um, cannabis concoction,
I would call it. And that's kind of how you're
pacing yourself, and you're sitting and you're enjoying your drink
as opposed to you grabbing the bottle and drinking it
just like that. So it's a different experience and a
different feel.
S6 (30:25):
So what are the.
S4 (30:26):
Ratios like if we're talking mocktail? Fun fact I used
to be a bartender, so let's see. Vodka. Lime juice.
Triple sec. Oh, you didn't.
S3 (30:32):
Tell us that before. Oh, it.
S4 (30:33):
Was a long time ago. This was pre-great recession.
S6 (30:36):
You've got a lot of.
S3 (30:36):
Careers in you, don't you, Mark?
S6 (30:38):
Oh, yeah.
S4 (30:38):
Um, that was a that was a fun one back
in the Gaslamp. Back in the day, but, um, so vodka,
lime juice, triple sec. The baseline of a bar of
any kind of cocktail is one ounce of a hard,
hard substance. Vodka, gin, rum, whatever. Are your ratios the
same thing with with the THC component, is it do
you put one ounce? Is it.
S6 (30:58):
Okay? I mean one one and a half.
S5 (30:59):
211 and a half or two. Um, I like to
kind of start slow. And then if I feel like
the drink needs a little bit more because you can
kind of, you can taste the THC in it. So
you're like, uh.
S6 (31:10):
How quick is that onset?
S5 (31:11):
Um, I would say for me.
S6 (31:14):
With bias.
S4 (31:15):
Everyone listening?
S6 (31:15):
Yeah.
S5 (31:16):
For me, my.
S6 (31:17):
My tolerance, scientific evidence.
S5 (31:18):
Yeah. This is not scientific evidence. It's just based on
my own tolerance. Yes. Um, 30 to 45 minutes, sometimes
an hour.
S6 (31:27):
Okay.
S5 (31:27):
Um, depending on the drink.
S6 (31:29):
Okay. Yeah. Got got it, got it.
S3 (31:31):
But that's still longer than regular alcohol. Yeah.
S6 (31:35):
Of course. Yeah. So people. But we're in mocktail.
S4 (31:37):
Mode so we know what we're getting into.
S3 (31:39):
That's what people measure. Yeah. You know generally you know
that they'll take a shot of something or maybe a
glass of wine sometimes people you've mentioned that before. Uh,
maybe people drink a glass of wine a little quicker. Yeah.
And they'll feel that, that, that, that, that, you know,
that that rush. Right, a little sooner. Um, but it
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takes a little bit longer.
S6 (32:01):
But remember, it's a different context.
S4 (32:02):
That glass of wine by itself. And you did it
a little quickly. Or did you pair it with your meal.
Completely different speeds. Mhm. Exactly.
S3 (32:09):
So you have to look at that. You really have
to be knowledgeable you know.
S6 (32:12):
Oh absolutely.
S3 (32:13):
You know I'm creeping into my um my logo is
my mantra is, you know, knowledge is power. But that's
actually true. You know, you need to gain some knowledge
about cannabis, about edibles, 100%, about smokables if you're going
to do that, about the oils. Um, about all of
(32:35):
it before you use it. And I don't know about
you guys, but I think some of the best teachers
of that are the bud tenders or the concierges.
S6 (32:45):
Absolutely. Yeah. They got there.
S4 (32:47):
Slow play it and shake their hand and ask as
many questions as you need. Because when legalization happened that
many years ago here in California, you know, I had
a one trick pony mindset about what I was going
to do. It's either sativa or indica. I knew of
like 3 or 4 different strain names, which, you know,
over time you tend to realize that those are just
the names, but it's not authentic to the lineage anymore,
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and it kind of goes away. Um, but ask those
questions to your bud tenders slow play it, because that's
what they're there for. They're there to be your, uh,
human resource, uh, to your, your choice of confection, if you.
S6 (33:22):
Will, even.
S3 (33:23):
To the extent that you tell them what you what
you might need it for.
S6 (33:27):
Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
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S5 (35:03):
I have a little follow up. Fun question.
S6 (35:06):
Absolutely.
S5 (35:06):
That ties into basically all of this with the cultural
side of cannabis and our views on who consumes what
we consume. That stigma. Right. How do we bridge the gap?
What are your thoughts on how we can bridge the
gap between legalization and true cultural acceptance?
S4 (35:28):
Oh, sometimes they go together and sometimes they're very far
different worlds. We'll go with legalization first. And this is
a guy that's not a lawyer, by the way.
S6 (35:40):
Golly.
S3 (35:40):
You're kidding. I was thinking.
S6 (35:42):
Bartender.
S3 (35:43):
Webmaster, Podcaster.
S6 (35:45):
Cultivator. Cultivator. I just finished.
S4 (35:47):
My cultivation certificate from Green Flower Edu. So.
S3 (35:50):
And you're going to try to make me believe you're
not a lawyer, huh?
S4 (35:53):
Maybe one day. But I hear passing that bar is really,
really hard.
S6 (35:56):
Yeah. No, it's a process.
S4 (35:58):
Respect to those of you that are lawyers, because that
is definitely a thing that is a profession in itself.
But let's go legalization first in that with it always
sitting in schedule one, irrespective of who is the sitting president,
it will not go anywhere. We're going to be stuck here.
And that is the unfortunate truth. Um, with it being there,
(36:21):
you limit yourselves on the actual scientific studies that are
abundantly out there. They just can't be done in mass
and in practice at higher volumes than need be. Um,
businesses such as this one can't benefit from tax codes
like 280, uh, which, uh, allow you to have, you know,
better tax deduction strategies with your businesses if you're related
(36:44):
to cannabis, which is definitely not going to happen if
you're in schedule one, will it happen if you entertain
schedule three like it's been discussed last year in year 2024?
I don't think so. Maybe. Maybe not. Again, consult with
your tax tax attorney. Um, but I don't see any movement.
It's going to be a local buy local initiative, state
by state initiative.
S6 (37:05):
Community.
S4 (37:06):
Community effort until it becomes schedule one. And that is
how you initially bridge the gap to your point in question. Um,
on how to do that, because even trading, from my understanding,
from the things that I've studied, trading cannabis, actual, legitimate
cannabis products through state lines, that's not a clear line
of sight. You can't clearly do that. Those mechanisms are
(37:29):
either in their first drafts, experimental, or it's non-existent at
all and totally illegal. Yeah. Um, so having that ability
to trade with other legal states out there state, obviously
the 37 states that you say are out there is
darn near impossible at this time. So how are you
going to scratch your your back alongside your other industry
(37:52):
peers backs when you can't clearly trade properly? So it
starts off small. Now, on the cultural aspect that you're saying,
how do you bridge the gap it is through means
like this, that what we are doing here and not
being afraid of it at all. And it goes back
to your other point earlier about, you know, what is
your visual example of I know I'm paraphrasing you incorrectly,
(38:12):
but you know that that that visual and who who
you are as a cannabis recreational consumer. It is that
boring person. It is everybody, everyday application that will start
bridging the gap. Because, you know, all three of us
in this room come from different perspectives, generations and context
and cultural and ethnic values. I know this already without
(38:32):
knowing you guys that long. Yeah, but I know it's there.
But carrying all of that together in mass outside of
this room starts bridging that gap.
S6 (38:42):
Yeah, like.
S5 (38:43):
Like you said, community. You know, using your voice. Coming
from that scientifical standpoint, fact based or even just wherever
you are in your profession on sharing how cannabis and,
you know, had a positive impact in your life.
S4 (38:59):
And the thing is, what as as I deep dive
further into the cannabis industry and study it more and
report on it more, which I do have a weekly
newsletter out Puff Provisions Weekly. Subscribe to it if you'd like.
That'd be great. We publish every Thursday, 8 a.m. Pacific. Um,
that being said, the more I understand and study this industry,
more with the facts being presented to me in real time, um,
(39:21):
be at peace that the medical journals are there in
volume and in density. It's out there. It's just there's
no system out there for scientists, medical institutions to thoughtfully
collaborate and scale all of that stuff out fast enough. Um,
you know, I'm putting the pressure on here locally. I
say hi to UCSD Cannabis Research Institute. I know they're
(39:43):
here locally. I hope you guys can do something because, um,
it's definitely something where I don't have the capital or
the tools to do so. I just have this, you know,
this steadfast attitude that I'll always support. Like you.
S6 (39:56):
Your voice like you hear.
S4 (39:58):
Um. And that's all I can do. But, you know,
it really goes back to that.
S6 (40:02):
Part and, and, you.
S3 (40:03):
Know, we've talked about, um, schedule one, we've talked about
a schedule a couple of times.
S6 (40:08):
Yeah.
S3 (40:09):
In in.
S6 (40:10):
Federal scheduling.
S3 (40:10):
Yeah. In our conversation. And I think most of our listeners,
cannabis enlightened listeners and your listeners at puff, I think they,
they know or understand that there is a schedule, um, FDA,
the federal government has a schedule in which they categorize
all drugs. Yes. And unfortunately, cannabis is a schedule one. Um,
(40:33):
and I think that's where I think our listeners probably
need to do some research because the knowledge, as I say,
knowledge is power. To find out why cannabis is a
schedule one and why it takes such a bad rap.
S4 (40:48):
So my quick, my quick cheat sheet in the advocacy
would be this. If you really wanted to study it
in comic book form is a book called Cannabis The
Legalization of Weed in America. Now it's written in comic
book form, so it's easy to digest. And it really
taught me from the historical context, from the front to
the back, starting from the origin story of where hemp was. Yeah, absolutely. Um,
(41:10):
starting from the origin stories to where a government official
in the 1920s, 30, Harry Anslinger or whatever his name is. Harry.
S6 (41:17):
Yeah.
S3 (41:17):
Yeah, really.
S4 (41:18):
Harry really used the context, the ignorance and things of
that nature. Uh, you know, basically racism was part of it,
you know, doubt, doubt, a lot of doubts in against
black culture and Mexican culture inundating America at that time
and using those assumed narratives to create government policy and
(41:39):
his network with with publications and things of that nature
to really scale out the lies which then peppered its
way through generationally into the Nixon administration, to the Reagan
administration and so on and so forth. Um, but that
book was very easy to read. Took me an hour,
and I instantly became an advocate. After we.
S3 (41:54):
We might be able to add that in some of
the credits as yeah.
S6 (41:58):
I get it. I don't.
S4 (41:59):
Know who this person.
S6 (41:59):
Is. I enjoyed the book. Yeah. It says.
S5 (42:02):
Smoking out the.
S6 (42:02):
Truth looks very interesting. Yeah.
S4 (42:04):
And it mirrored very well because, you know, you know,
my road to advocacy started from there. Voting prop voting
yes on prop 64 and things of that nature. But pre-COVID,
if you remember, uh weedmaps had a display in Los
Angeles called the Museum of Weed, and it took me through. I, uh,
(42:24):
me and the boys went to it. Um, it was
a very well worth trip to the heart of downtown
Los Angeles. Um, and they rented out a space, and
there were 13 exhibits, starting from the origin story to
where it's at now. So you went through these 13
different worlds, about about hemp and cannabis and things of
that nature. And, you know, it it really it was
(42:45):
consistent with what I've already read and what I've accumulated.
And it just blew my mind open because they had
not only the storytelling involved, but, you know, some exhibits
and hard facts and hard objects that were like, associated
with it. There was this one piece that I really,
really liked. It was probably exhibit one, 2 or 3
on the early historical context of hemp and things like that,
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that there was samurai samurai armor made out of hemp.
Now think of a samurai statue and it's fully decked out.
S6 (43:13):
Shoulder pads and.
S4 (43:14):
Helmets, and it's like it's made out of hemp. And,
you know, hemp is a very strong material. It's very.
S6 (43:20):
Stocky, thick, you know, it's.
S4 (43:21):
Not it's not a leaf. It's not cute like that.
It's very sturdy. And I'm like, wow, we really we
really screwed the pooch on the.
S6 (43:28):
Narrative on this one.
S3 (43:30):
Well, you know what? What happens generally in cannabis enlightened okay,
is when we really get moving. We're at the end.
S6 (43:38):
Ah, that's. That's fine.
S4 (43:40):
I was very.
S6 (43:40):
Happy to be here. So.
S3 (43:41):
So Mark, any closing comments and how can people, you
know reach you?
S4 (43:47):
Certainly. Well, first and foremost, thank you for having me here.
And I'd like to do it again sometime. Sure. Um,
if all else fails and you forget everything. Puff provisions.com.
If you want to get me more personally, my handle
is at puff provisions. Mark. All the handles out there
in social media world are is simply puff provisions. Um,
so stay tuned. I look forward to doing another indoor grow,
(44:08):
which is something that I've been manifesting, but I have
not pulled the trigger on doing it quite yet. Um,
and that'll be a fun one for me to chronicle
and showcase out there to the world. And just for free.
I just to give you guys context on everything I have.
Like I said, advocacy has many paths, and I've been
studying this on my own dime and on everything. And
(44:29):
I took a recent agriculture and horticulture certification. So all
of those notes are there for free. 17 articles on
Puff provisions.com. It's a brand new category, a brand new section.
So go ahead and enjoy. Learn. Learn the history and
learn how to grow in all of those good things.
S6 (44:44):
Well, great.
S3 (44:44):
Well thank you for joining us.
S6 (44:46):
Thank you.
S3 (44:46):
Arianna. Any last comments? Uh, for our listening audience. And
once again, how can they get in touch with you?
S6 (44:53):
Yeah.
S5 (44:54):
So, um, Arianna Salazar, you can follow me on Instagram
at Arianna Salazar altogether. And my apothecary, if you're looking
to dive deep into the herbal realm or have any
questions on herbs like cannabis or more in general is
at blissed herbs b l I s s e d
herbs with two s's. And I'm very appreciative of being here.
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And thank you so much, Mark, for coming out, and thanks.
S6 (45:21):
For having me.
S5 (45:21):
Your insight on everything. And yeah, I made this enlightened
more people to be aware of what we share with
the cannabis industry.
S6 (45:29):
Sweet.
S3 (45:30):
Well, thank both of you for being with us, um,
being with the cannabis enlightened audience and sharing your your wisdom,
your experience about cannabis. And for the listening audience. You
can hear this episode and all the cannabis enlightened episodes
on either Spotify or Old media. Um, I pretty much
(45:54):
listened to all of it on old media, but you
can put in at Spotify all those media cannabis enlightened
or cannabis enlightened comm. And if you want to reach me,
you want to say, listen, Doctor Leroy, I like this
or I didn't like this, or hi, you can reach
me at doctor Dot Leroy at Cannabis enlightened.com. This has
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been fun being with all of you today and sharing
our thoughts, and I look forward to being with you
in our next episode. And remember the only way to
combat stupidity and ignorance is that knowledge is power. Mm.
Thank you very much.
UU (46:38):
Thank you both.
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S4 (03:43):
Well, thank you for having me here, first and foremost. Hi, everyone.
My name is Marc on social media. I'm at Puff Provisions, Marc,
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What would my kids think? So it's things like that
in our nature and our conversations where we yes, we
do deviate because obviously it's inferred that we're very much,
you know, on a flower or an edible. And those
edibles do hit quickly. Um, however, you know, we wanted
to take a firm stance after prop 64 was baptized
in 2016 to really take initiative in an effort for
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advocacy in our own way. That was not typical of
what we've seen up until now. And I guess what
you could mean by that is the more traditional forms
and no disrespect whatsoever to what we grew up with
in pop culture references. For example, you know, Cheech and Chong, um,
any how high movies or, you know, Friday with Ice
Cube and Chris Tucker and things like that and other
(05:10):
ways through song and dance where it's, you know, kind
of implied about, you know, cannabis and things of that nature,
knowing that.
S3 (05:17):
How long Mark have you been, um, doing your, your,
your podcast since 2019.
S4 (05:23):
19 officially. Yeah. So, like you said, I'm the cook,
the dishwasher and everything in between. The bookkeeper, audio, video,
excuse me. Website coding, everything. Graphic design. Um, pretty much,
in my view, specific to cannabis advocacy. There is no
cost for me. I am willing to go up to
bat any given day of the week to talk about it,
(05:45):
to think about it, to consume it responsibly, emphasis on responsibly. Um,
because we are in a generational moment where it's never
going to happen again. And once we're out of it
and we pass these decisions on to the next generation,
it's my hope that everyone in this room and everyone
listening made the right choice and made the right examples
along the way for them to pick up and move
(06:05):
forward with it. I'm not on. I'm not on Earth
for a long time. None of us are. So you
might as well do some good with it and break
any of those antiquated narratives that we inherited generationally, year
over year, decade over decade is.
S3 (06:17):
The most recent podcast that you put out. What was
that about?
S4 (06:21):
It was Those are the more fun ones. When we
get to the burr months like September, October and November.
So that was a happy holidays one highly days one.
But the one that I really wanted to bring forth
and promote was interpreting Gen Z slang, which I'm very
terrible at. I'm not part of that umbrella, whatever demographic
you want to call it on Wikipedia, I'm not. And
I was really testing myself alongside APA, APA, provisions, Mike
(06:46):
and Daryl, my two other colleagues that cohost with me on.
Could we really unfrock some of this cryptic, cryptic, um,
semantics that I'm seeing in, in the modern day light?
And I couldn't I failed miserably.
S3 (06:58):
So I'm glad you mentioned their name, because I was
thinking that you talked about, you know, two others, but
if you didn't mention their names, I can imagine that
once you get back to Escondido, they will be beating
you on the head. Well, you didn't talk about me.
You didn't say my name. Oh, no.
S4 (07:13):
APA provisions, Mike. APA provisions. Daryl. That's how you can
access us in our own unique ways. But again, if
if you forget everything, just go to puff provisions. Com
everything is housed there. Okay.
S3 (07:24):
Well great. Great. And you know, I was thrilled to
hear that there's somebody else doing, you know, something similar
to cannabis. Enlightened. You know, interacting with the audience, talking
about different topics that are cannabis related. So it's good
to have you here. And thank you very much. I
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intend to hear a lot more from you as we
continue into our topic. Um, but right now we have
Arianna Salazar, my assistant producer, who hello, hello, I think
is doing some different things right now, aren't you? You're. Yes.
Can you tell us what's going on with you right now?
S5 (08:03):
Yes. So I am a clinical herbalist at a movement hospital.
It is a startup movement hospital practicing integrative wellness, orthopedic
physical therapy, a performance floor. We don't call it a
gym performance floor. um, and nutritionist. We have a conscious chef.
(08:23):
So basically bringing in. Yeah, the enlightenment of healing and
natural medicine along with science in this space. And as
a clinical herbalist, I love it because I have my
own brand. It's blissed herbs. I have my own apothecary.
So I make tea blends, candles, um, and I also
(08:46):
do spiritual coaching and it all kind of like synergizes
together in the same thing, which is really fun. And
I worked in the cannabis industry for since 2016, 17.
So I've been in very passionate about this plant and
its healing modalities and how it's changed my life and others,
and working in the retail side from the marketing and
(09:06):
now just specializing in herbology and botany and really just
standing in tune with the sacred indigenous indigenous medicine. Cannabis
has had so much different effects on different people I've
seen over time, even with my herbal client intake. And
I really think this is a beautiful healing plant that
has opened me up to so many different things.
S4 (09:28):
I'm glad, you know. I'm glad avenues like you exist,
because we have to start thinking outside of what we've
been taught, not to negate anything that's already been proven scientifically.
But we have to realize that you have to expand
outside of just traditional prescriptions. And that orange bottle as
the first, you know, knee jerk reaction approach, because there
are qualities to life that we were taught or surrounded
(09:50):
by our resources and things of that nature, especially with,
you know, you know, consumer packaged goods and, you know,
processed food and things like that, where it's really taken,
taken a hit and this, you know, transcends cannabis, obviously.
But like knowing that these types of professions exist, like
with you and with Doctor Leroy here and everything else
in the surrounding cannabis context, it's important to always put
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it out there with honesty and decency and yes, still
express doubt because we are in unforeseen territory at this
time until schedule one is totally eradicated.
S3 (10:21):
Exactly.
S5 (10:21):
Yep. You have a point.
S3 (10:23):
Well, we're going to have a good discussion here, um,
this afternoon, because we've got two people that are coming
at it from similar but different points of view. Because
what we're going to talk about is why cannabis users,
why or how they deserve better representation, or maybe even
(10:44):
better cannabis quality of cannabis. What cannabis is used for,
what people use it for, what they could use it for.
So why don't we open it up with you, Mark? Sure. What's.
What kind of cannabis do you think? Um, most people
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appreciate or want.
S4 (11:07):
In all honesty, every age group doesn't matter ethnic background,
gender or any of that stuff. It's really stress relief
after a hard days of whatever of your daily life. Okay. And,
you know, everyone and anyone that's covertly spoken with me
because it is still, to some respects, in my inner circle,
you know, a quiet topic, not a shameful topic, but
it's quiet.
S3 (11:28):
Quiet? Because of what?
S4 (11:29):
Quiet because it's still misunderstood. It's not okay. You and
I could be at the happy hour right now, and
we could talk about the Super Bowl. Yeah. That just
recently happened. You and I could talk politics if we
wanted to. We could talk about religion. Religion, for crying
out loud. That could. That creates wars outside of politics.
But cannabis, no one really brings that up unless you
pull them to the side and say, hey, you know,
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I've been taking this or I've been taking that. Is
this CBD or whatever this case may be, or some
new piece of vocabulary coming from the industry. Is this
going to help me out with my ailment or with
my stress? And it's really all about, in my view,
you know, not speaking in context to being a working
professional or a consultant in the industry, just simply a
recreational user. And at one point, I was a medicinal
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user when I could only get access that way through
a medical card. Right. Um, it really is stress. Now
it's about modifying all that and saying, yes, of course
I support you if you want to use it, and
you should still be empowered to say no. Just say
no is still something that I am an ambassador of,
just not in the legacy context that it was driven
with through the Reagan administration in the 80s. But you
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should still be empowered to be safe and say no
if this stuff isn't for you. However, if you want
to step through that door, right. I see that the
law of averages at all time when I talk, when
I talk to a version of you or you, um,
in a more safe setting is it's just really stress
relief after a long days of whatever in life.
S3 (12:50):
Mark, do you think that's generational or stress? Well, the
the stress or the or the using of it using
of cannabis.
S4 (13:01):
Generational for stress. The using of cannabis? No. Because in
this modern day context, which I'm still trying to inform
myself on, there are so many ways to apply cannabis
outside of flower. Now, when I grew up. And I'd
like to think you and I specifically share this sentiment,
because that's all we knew. That was what I knew
of a dime bag. I knew of a gram. I
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knew of an ounce. I know how to measure that stuff.
And that's the vocabulary in the context I would talk to. Yes.
To be perfectly honest, before it was legal, you know,
that's how you would talk to to someone who was
in the know of that kind of stuff. And that
was really the way to apply cannabis. Now, in the
modern day sense, you could go down to the retailer
over at March and Ash and similar and similar dispensaries,
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and you have different ways of applying outside of just
traditional flower. You've got the vapes, you've got salves, you've got,
you know.
S5 (13:48):
Tinctures.
S4 (13:49):
Tinctures and stuff like that. And that is way outside
of my wheelhouse still, because, you know, learning the efficacies
of all of those, it's still very biased because, you know,
scientific studies are very, very small still. Because again, I
always I will say, I blame schedule one for blocking
the growth of this. Um, but I think the generational part,
to your point and to your question, is about application
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of cannabis versus stress, because every generation doesn't matter if
you're the boomers or if you're Gen Z, Gen Y,
Gen X, or any of that stuff, we all are
carrying a certain amount of lifestyle stress. Mhm. Yeah. So
that stuff doesn't change. And you know, it's really about
looking at these as either in the recreational context or
the medicinal context, whatever the case may be, when you
(14:33):
step through those doors, knowing that this is happening with cannabis,
even though we're nine years out from prop 64 and
many years out from the first hemp act, and it
only being, you know, what was it, Colorado and Washington
state being the only legal states at that time?
S3 (14:49):
In the beginning.
S4 (14:49):
In the very beginning. Right. We're way past that, but
yet we're still sitting idle and static in a certain
point in the year 2025.
S3 (14:56):
You know, I think we've got something like 37 states now, right,
that that have cannabis, right. Legal either between recreational or medical.
S4 (15:06):
Right. Right, right. And that's the thing, like I noticed
when we when we here in California voted yes for
prop 64in 2016. That's when I really started, like passively
take inventory and pay attention more to the current events
specific to cannabis, irrespective of who was in house. As president,
I just wanted to take a year over year and
it built up year over year until 2019, where I
(15:28):
was like, whoa. The voting context between state to state
is really getting adopted in orders of magnitude. It went
from two states to like eight states to now over
37in just the blink of an eye. With only a
slight halt in the last election cycle in 2024. True. Um,
and and for those reasons, I don't I could speculate
all I want, but I don't know what really dialed
(15:48):
the knobs for it to go. No. Instead of yes
to legalization in Florida and things of that nature. Um,
that's out of my wheelhouse. But, you know, it it
took me when I was really carrying momentum. I'm paying
attention more to current events, current events, current events. When
2019 happened at the at the start of the Puff
Provisions podcast, I said to my friends, I was like,
something big is happening here and it is our responsibility
(16:11):
to do something about it, not just enjoy it. Of
course I want to enjoy it. It's a it's a
no brainer. Yeah, but there's a shift going on. And
I cannot ignore this fact because once it's gone and
I pass it on to my children's friends, I mean
my friends children and my own children, my my decisions
that I make here today, like, are you safe? Or
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at least are you at a better starting point than
what we were? Because you and I are, and you
as well were in a disservice from what we were taught.
S3 (16:39):
You brought up something that that I think Ariana can, um,
highlight in terms of application. I mentioned applications, you know. Yeah.
Which is different types of cannabis and different types of
cannabis use. Yes. So Ariana as a herbalist. Mhm. Um,
what other ways besides consuming would someone look at or
(17:04):
use cannabis Topically.
S5 (17:09):
Um, so basically salves or gels, um, people with arthritis pain,
they are looking they have lidocaine patches in the pharmacy.
So lidocaine is a form of relaxing the nerves and
the muscles from, you know, recovering through stress or an
event or some type of injury. Um, cannabis. I actually
(17:30):
do have a client who who's interested, and he's a
little bit of an older guy, and he wants to
know more about what other options are there, instead of
muscle relaxers and Vicodin and lidocaine patches. And this is
where I came into. Have you tried topical cannabis products? Um,
1 to 1 ratio of THC and CBD or they
even have CBD patches. Um, does.
S4 (17:53):
The 1 to 1 ratio still make it psychoactive or. No,
because because.
S5 (17:56):
It's going through the body. Through the skin. Got it.
As opposed to the digestive tract. So. Gotcha. Uh, the
skin absorption, it goes through the fat cells and the blood.
So you're feeling those effects as opposed to getting high
off those effects.
S4 (18:10):
But the onset would be more delayed, right? Yes. Okay.
Got it, got it, got it.
S5 (18:14):
Exactly. And then I had a question. Sure. What does
a better representation of a cannabis user look like to you?
S4 (18:24):
Physically it is probably. No. Yeah, I'll answer that question.
It is the most boring description, the most vanilla ice
cream I could imagine. Because that's who it should be for.
It doesn't just have to be the one that the
one person that's peacocking in the room. It can be
for anyone and for everyone if you're willing to open
(18:45):
the door. Don't pull yet. Study first and understand before
you make an informed decision. Because I do see cannabis
and its value outside of just the pop culture references
that we've we see on a daily basis. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, so, yeah,
that's really like on a physical level, it doesn't matter.
You could paint your canvas that way. It is boring.
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It is. It is unsugared corn flakes. It is. It is,
you know, peanut butter without the jelly. That's how I
look at it.
S3 (19:16):
I think if you and I've done this before, because
I visit a lot of the March and Ash dispensaries. Oh, awesome.
In terms of of just getting to know what's going on,
you will find a lot of different types of people.
S6 (19:33):
Yeah, yeah.
S3 (19:34):
That go in and come out of a cannabis shop.
I mean, if you had a thought in your mind that, oh,
I'm only going to see, you know, seedy looking people
coming out of a cannabis shop in the first place.
Most cannabis shops, the March and Ash cannabis shops are
very well decorated. Bright. Oh, yeah.
S4 (19:53):
The retail design is on point.
S3 (19:54):
You know, it's tremendous. And then you'll see young, you'll
see middle aged, you'll see seniors. Yes. You know, um,
because of the some of the things that you had
just mentioned, Arianna that that you can put it on
your skin, you know, for arthritis or something like that.
S4 (20:09):
So of course, you know, like me, I, it's hard
for me to break, you know, things that I feel
work for me. So I do, you know, uh, dive
deep into flour and things of that nature. But I'm
also timed with it, too. I don't just puff on
any on any part of the hour, you know that
that for me, and this is more of an emotional
relationship that I have with it, or a sensible, practical,
(20:31):
pragmatic relationship that I have with it. Because I'm older now.
I'm not, I'm not I'm not 19 in the dorm. Okay.
You know, that's gone. That version of Puff Provisions Mark
is gone.
S3 (20:42):
You know, I'm older now.
S4 (20:43):
And, you know, I've refined it to being like, you know,
it is my version of red wine. Once the clock
hits 830. Okay, you can go ahead and do that
kind of mentality. So I treat my usage as responsibly.
S5 (20:56):
Boundaries and kind of having timeframes with yourself. So you're
building that respect with the plant.
S4 (21:01):
Because I can't I this is one thing where I
don't share in the philosophy. Like I fail at wake
and bake. It's not going to work for me. Yeah.
So it's okay when you.
S3 (21:10):
Say wake and bake?
S4 (21:11):
Yeah. That cultural expression where the moment you wake up,
you light one up are kind of mentality. Okay. And,
you know, clever cute and stuff like that. And for
those of you that it works for you. Awesome. It
fails for me. And I know not to do that.
So like to your point boundaries and setting those things.
So those are the other things as a recreational consumer
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and medicinal too. You've got to be aware of at
all times. And no one trains you or gives you
a book on that. You just have to look in
the mirror and be assertive of it. Yeah. And you know,
if you have a highly addictive personality already, is cannabis
appropriate for you? Toss up question. You really have to
answer that yourself.
S3 (21:49):
Yeah, yeah, I'd say the same thing to to a
lot of people that, you know, some people say, well doctor,
do you think cannabis would be for me? I said,
I don't know, you know, maybe you try a little.
S4 (22:02):
Yes.
S3 (22:03):
Oh, yes, you try a little.
S4 (22:04):
Very good call. Very good call.
S3 (22:06):
If you like it. I always tell them. Try a
little and wait and wait.
S4 (22:12):
I've gotten similar advice to. And it works. That is
the probably the most pragmatic way of thinking and approaching anything,
including cannabis, is to not even necessarily microdose, because you're
not even there on that protocol yet. It's just if
you're in that curious phase, small is the best way,
because if you go deep, it's unforgiving and you don't
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want to have that negative impression, obviously. And also identify
what are you using it for, like how you ask me,
it's like the stress part. Exactly. Things of that nature.
And to your clients out there that are, you know, in,
in actual, you know, medical ailments.
S6 (22:46):
Yeah.
S5 (22:46):
And I say with all plants, um, just from an
herbal perspective and understanding how plants affect the body, you know,
cannabis in kava, we have all these very strong plants
that have very strong effects to the body really rapidly.
So with anything, start slow and go. So when every
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time I tell people with certain types of herbal blends
with lavender or, you know, can I mix this with this,
I'm like, start slow. Everybody's body is different. You know,
everybody's weight and absorption rate and tolerance is different. And
so it's kind of understanding if you can start slow
you're able to pace yourself and see those effects. And
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if you want more you can add up.
S4 (23:32):
So absolutely.
S6 (23:33):
There's.
S3 (23:34):
An appreciation that I've learned. See what you two think
of this. Sure. Um, for cannabis, that's not just taking
it in. But before you even take it in, the
look and the smell.
S4 (23:49):
Oh, okay. Yeah.
S3 (23:50):
Um, is is something to be appreciated?
S4 (23:54):
Oh, absolutely.
S3 (23:55):
Based upon the strain.
S4 (23:57):
I'm flipping on my vocabulary and.
S6 (23:59):
What that is. But I know.
S4 (24:00):
What you're talking about.
S6 (24:01):
All the different.
S5 (24:02):
Appeals.
S4 (24:03):
Of earthy, floral tones.
S6 (24:04):
Yeah, piney, fruity.
S4 (24:06):
The piney ness to it. I just recently studied this,
but forgive me, but yes, I do realize where you're
coming from, and it's that level of detail you as
a consumer, you don't know until you know. But it's
important because of the amount of inventory that obviously the
dispensaries are giving out these days. It's not just, you know,
you know, a bag of stress that you're getting for
(24:26):
like ten bucks, um, kind of mentality. You actually get
to enjoy and appreciate the hard work that these cultivators
have put through to create these types of buds, uh,
off of these strains, whether you know, they're out of flower,
they grew them from, from soil, um, and other techniques
and things of that nature. But you really the more
(24:47):
you see it, you're like, whoa, I didn't know there
were this many arrangements that you could make of cannabis. Yeah,
I didn't, you know what gives me? What still gives
me a hard time, though, is, uh, the names, the names,
because it's been peppered throughout throughout the industry and misused
all across the board that I can't tell the authenticity
of if it really is, you know, Maui Wowie or
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not kind of mentality. That's a different story for a
different day. But but to your point, the scent, the
scent of it all is really where like that triggers
that trigger in a good way. Yeah, I'm using trigger
as a good vocabulary. Not bad in a good way.
So if I were to tell that person that you
were talking to to start small, you know, also smell,
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you know, give, give it give, give it a sense
of refinement. Don't even consume it just yet. Just see
where you are emotionally speaking, relative to what your senses
are telling you. And it helps.
S5 (25:39):
And speaking of smell, when it comes to back to
our topic of the stigma of the smell. So kind
of like has that, you know, the smell of weed,
the smell of weed in certain areas, or even when
you're about to hang out or do something, has that
affected you in, in, in your way or your family
or community or even.
S4 (25:59):
Oh yeah, across the board. Now, if you if you
were just speaking to me myself and I obviously have
no problem with it whatsoever. I love, I enjoy it.
It's it's an abundant aroma. And, you know, even if
I saw a guy or a gal or I sniffed
it across the street and I smelled that instead of
something else, I'd be like, that person is putting themselves
(26:20):
at peace, you know, kind of mentality. It's it's been
a long day, I get it. It's exhale that moment. Yeah.
Kind of thing. Now you're asking me about like the residual,
like the people around me and things of like that
family and friends, community and things of that nature. That
is where it's definitely a bit of a challenge. Um,
I myself, I know without people ever standing up and
saying it to my face or looking me in the
(26:41):
eye and saying, hey, stop that. I know, I'm sure
it does have an off putting effect to them. And
that's where I flip the switch and go into vape
mode quite a bit. Or I go into edible mode
if I really want to enjoy my night like that,
but I know it is. How do I say this?
When you when you consume specific strains through flour, obviously,
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and getting that quick onset, you'll notice that the aroma
is different to on exhale. Like if you were to
be in a room and it was this type of strain,
and then you go into another room and it's this
kind of strain, you'll notice that as well where where
the aroma is completely different. So it's really what's less
off putting for you. Um, as a way to start
(27:24):
looking at it. Do I have a life hack or
a way to to, um, to resolve for those around
me that have a problem with the actual infectious odor
of it? No, unfortunately I don't. Except to say vapes
are probably the only way to do it because you
don't smell it at all.
S3 (27:39):
Um, but I think I think there may be a
reason for a way. Not a reason, but a way
for people to get around. Oh, there are there are drinkables.
S4 (27:49):
There are drinkables, uh, a fun one, a fun, a
fun one. 1 or 2. Um, Christmas exchanges ago at
Puff Provisions. Mike. Or maybe it was Darrell that did it. Um,
gave me my holiday gift for that year, and it
was one I don't know the brand, so I apologize,
but it was a device and no bigger than our hand. Um,
and it was a filter. And you would exhale after
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consuming smoke and it would filter all of that stuff out.
And I found that to be a really novel toy device, peripheral,
whatever you want to call it. Um, and it worked.
It was very, very non-offensive or as close to being
non-offensive because. But it was ridiculous because I had to
remember to bring it or remember to hold it or
pair it to my stash kind of mentality. Um, that's
(28:33):
really the only homework assignment. And after a long day,
it's like you just want to get there in in
as close of a straight line as possible after a
long day. Um, but yeah, those those are the surrounding
life hacks that I've been presented with.
S3 (28:46):
Yeah. I want to underline again, for a lot of
listeners that whether however you consume it, you got to
consume a little bit at a time. Yes. And I
say that because I think the drinkable.
S4 (28:59):
Never had one, to be perfectly honest. Really? Yeah.
S3 (29:01):
The drinkable. Well, I've tried the drinkable before. And because
it's drinkable, you have the tendency to maybe want to
gulp a, you know, a little bit more than you
would normally do.
S6 (29:13):
Is it.
S3 (29:13):
You know, like, like you're drinking a.
S4 (29:15):
Soda energy drink or is it just they have.
S6 (29:17):
Like cans.
S5 (29:17):
Of lemonades.
S6 (29:18):
They have soft drinks. There's I mean.
S4 (29:20):
Don't get me wrong, I'm not foolish. I've seen them.
I've just never bought them myself because my personal preference
is flour.
S3 (29:24):
That could be mixed. You could mix it a drink,
a bowl with, let's say it's got, I don't know,
they go anywhere from 2.5% THC to I've seen some
that have 100%, you know, thc.
S6 (29:38):
THC 100 milligram.
S4 (29:40):
Okay. Now you need a microdose.
S6 (29:42):
It's 100%.
S4 (29:43):
THC.
S3 (29:43):
Yeah, yeah.
S6 (29:44):
Yeah, a fun.
S5 (29:44):
Little tip I like making. I make herbal mocktails already with, like,
plants and, like, tinctures and elixirs with my cannabis ones
and drinks and stuff. If I don't feel like consuming alcohol, I.
I love making like a nice little concoction, but I'm
dosing it so I get like the. Not the 100 milligram,
but I'll get 50 or a 20 or 30 and
(30:05):
then I'll pour some with ice and maybe some like
ginger ale, maybe add some sweetener and some juice to
it to make like a fun little, um, cannabis concoction,
I would call it. And that's kind of how you're
pacing yourself, and you're sitting and you're enjoying your drink
as opposed to you grabbing the bottle and drinking it
just like that. So it's a different experience and a
different feel.
S6 (30:25):
So what are the.
S4 (30:26):
Ratios like if we're talking mocktail? Fun fact I used
to be a bartender, so let's see. Vodka. Lime juice.
Triple sec. Oh, you didn't.
S3 (30:32):
Tell us that before. Oh, it.
S4 (30:33):
Was a long time ago. This was pre-great recession.
S6 (30:36):
You've got a lot of.
S3 (30:36):
Careers in you, don't you, Mark?
S6 (30:38):
Oh, yeah.
S4 (30:38):
Um, that was a that was a fun one back
in the Gaslamp. Back in the day, but, um, so vodka,
lime juice, triple sec. The baseline of a bar of
any kind of cocktail is one ounce of a hard,
hard substance. Vodka, gin, rum, whatever. Are your ratios the
same thing with with the THC component, is it do
you put one ounce? Is it.
S6 (30:58):
Okay? I mean one one and a half.
S5 (30:59):
211 and a half or two. Um, I like to
kind of start slow. And then if I feel like
the drink needs a little bit more because you can
kind of, you can taste the THC in it. So
you're like, uh.
S6 (31:10):
How quick is that onset?
S5 (31:11):
Um, I would say for me.
S6 (31:14):
With bias.
S4 (31:15):
Everyone listening?
S6 (31:15):
Yeah.
S5 (31:16):
For me, my.
S6 (31:17):
My tolerance, scientific evidence.
S5 (31:18):
Yeah. This is not scientific evidence. It's just based on
my own tolerance. Yes. Um, 30 to 45 minutes, sometimes
an hour.
S6 (31:27):
Okay.
S5 (31:27):
Um, depending on the drink.
S6 (31:29):
Okay. Yeah. Got got it, got it.
S3 (31:31):
But that's still longer than regular alcohol. Yeah.
S6 (31:35):
Of course. Yeah. So people. But we're in mocktail.
S4 (31:37):
Mode so we know what we're getting into.
S3 (31:39):
That's what people measure. Yeah. You know generally you know
that they'll take a shot of something or maybe a
glass of wine sometimes people you've mentioned that before. Uh,
maybe people drink a glass of wine a little quicker. Yeah.
And they'll feel that, that, that, that, that, you know,
that that rush. Right, a little sooner. Um, but it
(31:59):
takes a little bit longer.
S6 (32:01):
But remember, it's a different context.
S4 (32:02):
That glass of wine by itself. And you did it
a little quickly. Or did you pair it with your meal.
Completely different speeds. Mhm. Exactly.
S3 (32:09):
So you have to look at that. You really have
to be knowledgeable you know.
S6 (32:12):
Oh absolutely.
S3 (32:13):
You know I'm creeping into my um my logo is
my mantra is, you know, knowledge is power. But that's
actually true. You know, you need to gain some knowledge
about cannabis, about edibles, 100%, about smokables if you're going
to do that, about the oils. Um, about all of
(32:35):
it before you use it. And I don't know about
you guys, but I think some of the best teachers
of that are the bud tenders or the concierges.
S6 (32:45):
Absolutely. Yeah. They got there.
S4 (32:47):
Slow play it and shake their hand and ask as
many questions as you need. Because when legalization happened that
many years ago here in California, you know, I had
a one trick pony mindset about what I was going
to do. It's either sativa or indica. I knew of
like 3 or 4 different strain names, which, you know,
over time you tend to realize that those are just
the names, but it's not authentic to the lineage anymore,
(33:09):
and it kind of goes away. Um, but ask those
questions to your bud tenders slow play it, because that's
what they're there for. They're there to be your, uh,
human resource, uh, to your, your choice of confection, if you.
S6 (33:22):
Will, even.
S3 (33:23):
To the extent that you tell them what you what
you might need it for.
S6 (33:27):
Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
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S5 (35:03):
I have a little follow up. Fun question.
S6 (35:06):
Absolutely.
S5 (35:06):
That ties into basically all of this with the cultural
side of cannabis and our views on who consumes what
we consume. That stigma. Right. How do we bridge the gap?
What are your thoughts on how we can bridge the
gap between legalization and true cultural acceptance?
S4 (35:28):
Oh, sometimes they go together and sometimes they're very far
different worlds. We'll go with legalization first. And this is
a guy that's not a lawyer, by the way.
S6 (35:40):
Golly.
S3 (35:40):
You're kidding. I was thinking.
S6 (35:42):
Bartender.
S3 (35:43):
Webmaster, Podcaster.
S6 (35:45):
Cultivator. Cultivator. I just finished.
S4 (35:47):
My cultivation certificate from Green Flower Edu. So.
S3 (35:50):
And you're going to try to make me believe you're
not a lawyer, huh?
S4 (35:53):
Maybe one day. But I hear passing that bar is really,
really hard.
S6 (35:56):
Yeah. No, it's a process.
S4 (35:58):
Respect to those of you that are lawyers, because that
is definitely a thing that is a profession in itself.
But let's go legalization first in that with it always
sitting in schedule one, irrespective of who is the sitting president,
it will not go anywhere. We're going to be stuck here.
And that is the unfortunate truth. Um, with it being there,
(36:21):
you limit yourselves on the actual scientific studies that are
abundantly out there. They just can't be done in mass
and in practice at higher volumes than need be. Um,
businesses such as this one can't benefit from tax codes
like 280, uh, which, uh, allow you to have, you know,
better tax deduction strategies with your businesses if you're related
(36:44):
to cannabis, which is definitely not going to happen if
you're in schedule one, will it happen if you entertain
schedule three like it's been discussed last year in year 2024?
I don't think so. Maybe. Maybe not. Again, consult with
your tax tax attorney. Um, but I don't see any movement.
It's going to be a local buy local initiative, state
by state initiative.
S6 (37:05):
Community.
S4 (37:06):
Community effort until it becomes schedule one. And that is
how you initially bridge the gap to your point in question. Um,
on how to do that, because even trading, from my understanding,
from the things that I've studied, trading cannabis, actual, legitimate
cannabis products through state lines, that's not a clear line
of sight. You can't clearly do that. Those mechanisms are
(37:29):
either in their first drafts, experimental, or it's non-existent at
all and totally illegal. Yeah. Um, so having that ability
to trade with other legal states out there state, obviously
the 37 states that you say are out there is
darn near impossible at this time. So how are you
going to scratch your your back alongside your other industry
(37:52):
peers backs when you can't clearly trade properly? So it
starts off small. Now, on the cultural aspect that you're saying,
how do you bridge the gap it is through means
like this, that what we are doing here and not
being afraid of it at all. And it goes back
to your other point earlier about, you know, what is
your visual example of I know I'm paraphrasing you incorrectly,
(38:12):
but you know that that that visual and who who
you are as a cannabis recreational consumer. It is that
boring person. It is everybody, everyday application that will start
bridging the gap. Because, you know, all three of us
in this room come from different perspectives, generations and context
and cultural and ethnic values. I know this already without
(38:32):
knowing you guys that long. Yeah, but I know it's there.
But carrying all of that together in mass outside of
this room starts bridging that gap.
S6 (38:42):
Yeah, like.
S5 (38:43):
Like you said, community. You know, using your voice. Coming
from that scientifical standpoint, fact based or even just wherever
you are in your profession on sharing how cannabis and,
you know, had a positive impact in your life.
S4 (38:59):
And the thing is, what as as I deep dive
further into the cannabis industry and study it more and
report on it more, which I do have a weekly
newsletter out Puff Provisions Weekly. Subscribe to it if you'd like.
That'd be great. We publish every Thursday, 8 a.m. Pacific. Um,
that being said, the more I understand and study this industry,
more with the facts being presented to me in real time, um,
(39:21):
be at peace that the medical journals are there in
volume and in density. It's out there. It's just there's
no system out there for scientists, medical institutions to thoughtfully
collaborate and scale all of that stuff out fast enough. Um,
you know, I'm putting the pressure on here locally. I
say hi to UCSD Cannabis Research Institute. I know they're
(39:43):
here locally. I hope you guys can do something because, um,
it's definitely something where I don't have the capital or
the tools to do so. I just have this, you know,
this steadfast attitude that I'll always support. Like you.
S6 (39:56):
Your voice like you hear.
S4 (39:58):
Um. And that's all I can do. But, you know,
it really goes back to that.
S6 (40:02):
Part and, and, you.
S3 (40:03):
Know, we've talked about, um, schedule one, we've talked about
a schedule a couple of times.
S6 (40:08):
Yeah.
S3 (40:09):
In in.
S6 (40:10):
Federal scheduling.
S3 (40:10):
Yeah. In our conversation. And I think most of our listeners,
cannabis enlightened listeners and your listeners at puff, I think they,
they know or understand that there is a schedule, um, FDA,
the federal government has a schedule in which they categorize
all drugs. Yes. And unfortunately, cannabis is a schedule one. Um,
(40:33):
and I think that's where I think our listeners probably
need to do some research because the knowledge, as I say,
knowledge is power. To find out why cannabis is a
schedule one and why it takes such a bad rap.
S4 (40:48):
So my quick, my quick cheat sheet in the advocacy
would be this. If you really wanted to study it
in comic book form is a book called Cannabis The
Legalization of Weed in America. Now it's written in comic
book form, so it's easy to digest. And it really
taught me from the historical context, from the front to
the back, starting from the origin story of where hemp was. Yeah, absolutely. Um,
(41:10):
starting from the origin stories to where a government official
in the 1920s, 30, Harry Anslinger or whatever his name is. Harry.
S6 (41:17):
Yeah.
S3 (41:17):
Yeah, really.
S4 (41:18):
Harry really used the context, the ignorance and things of
that nature. Uh, you know, basically racism was part of it,
you know, doubt, doubt, a lot of doubts in against
black culture and Mexican culture inundating America at that time
and using those assumed narratives to create government policy and
(41:39):
his network with with publications and things of that nature
to really scale out the lies which then peppered its
way through generationally into the Nixon administration, to the Reagan
administration and so on and so forth. Um, but that
book was very easy to read. Took me an hour,
and I instantly became an advocate. After we.
S3 (41:54):
We might be able to add that in some of
the credits as yeah.
S6 (41:58):
I get it. I don't.
S4 (41:59):
Know who this person.
S6 (41:59):
Is. I enjoyed the book. Yeah. It says.
S5 (42:02):
Smoking out the.
S6 (42:02):
Truth looks very interesting. Yeah.
S4 (42:04):
And it mirrored very well because, you know, you know,
my road to advocacy started from there. Voting prop voting
yes on prop 64 and things of that nature. But pre-COVID,
if you remember, uh weedmaps had a display in Los
Angeles called the Museum of Weed, and it took me through. I, uh,
(42:24):
me and the boys went to it. Um, it was
a very well worth trip to the heart of downtown
Los Angeles. Um, and they rented out a space, and
there were 13 exhibits, starting from the origin story to
where it's at now. So you went through these 13
different worlds, about about hemp and cannabis and things of
that nature. And, you know, it it really it was
(42:45):
consistent with what I've already read and what I've accumulated.
And it just blew my mind open because they had
not only the storytelling involved, but, you know, some exhibits
and hard facts and hard objects that were like, associated
with it. There was this one piece that I really,
really liked. It was probably exhibit one, 2 or 3
on the early historical context of hemp and things like that,
(43:05):
that there was samurai samurai armor made out of hemp.
Now think of a samurai statue and it's fully decked out.
S6 (43:13):
Shoulder pads and.
S4 (43:14):
Helmets, and it's like it's made out of hemp. And,
you know, hemp is a very strong material. It's very.
S6 (43:20):
Stocky, thick, you know, it's.
S4 (43:21):
Not it's not a leaf. It's not cute like that.
It's very sturdy. And I'm like, wow, we really we
really screwed the pooch on the.
S6 (43:28):
Narrative on this one.
S3 (43:30):
Well, you know what? What happens generally in cannabis enlightened okay,
is when we really get moving. We're at the end.
S6 (43:38):
Ah, that's. That's fine.
S4 (43:40):
I was very.
S6 (43:40):
Happy to be here. So.
S3 (43:41):
So Mark, any closing comments and how can people, you
know reach you?
S4 (43:47):
Certainly. Well, first and foremost, thank you for having me here.
And I'd like to do it again sometime. Sure. Um,
if all else fails and you forget everything. Puff provisions.com.
If you want to get me more personally, my handle
is at puff provisions. Mark. All the handles out there
in social media world are is simply puff provisions. Um,
so stay tuned. I look forward to doing another indoor grow,
(44:08):
which is something that I've been manifesting, but I have
not pulled the trigger on doing it quite yet. Um,
and that'll be a fun one for me to chronicle
and showcase out there to the world. And just for free.
I just to give you guys context on everything I have.
Like I said, advocacy has many paths, and I've been
studying this on my own dime and on everything. And
(44:29):
I took a recent agriculture and horticulture certification. So all
of those notes are there for free. 17 articles on
Puff provisions.com. It's a brand new category, a brand new section.
So go ahead and enjoy. Learn. Learn the history and
learn how to grow in all of those good things.
S6 (44:44):
Well, great.
S3 (44:44):
Well thank you for joining us.
S6 (44:46):
Thank you.
S3 (44:46):
Arianna. Any last comments? Uh, for our listening audience. And
once again, how can they get in touch with you?
S6 (44:53):
Yeah.
S5 (44:54):
So, um, Arianna Salazar, you can follow me on Instagram
at Arianna Salazar altogether. And my apothecary, if you're looking
to dive deep into the herbal realm or have any
questions on herbs like cannabis or more in general is
at blissed herbs b l I s s e d
herbs with two s's. And I'm very appreciative of being here.
(45:18):
And thank you so much, Mark, for coming out, and thanks.
S6 (45:21):
For having me.
S5 (45:21):
Your insight on everything. And yeah, I made this enlightened
more people to be aware of what we share with
the cannabis industry.
S6 (45:29):
Sweet.
S3 (45:30):
Well, thank both of you for being with us, um,
being with the cannabis enlightened audience and sharing your your wisdom,
your experience about cannabis. And for the listening audience. You
can hear this episode and all the cannabis enlightened episodes
on either Spotify or Old media. Um, I pretty much
(45:54):
listened to all of it on old media, but you
can put in at Spotify all those media cannabis enlightened
or cannabis enlightened comm. And if you want to reach me,
you want to say, listen, Doctor Leroy, I like this
or I didn't like this, or hi, you can reach
me at doctor Dot Leroy at Cannabis enlightened.com. This has
(46:17):
been fun being with all of you today and sharing
our thoughts, and I look forward to being with you
in our next episode. And remember the only way to
combat stupidity and ignorance is that knowledge is power. Mm.
Thank you very much.
UU (46:38):
Thank you both.
S10 (46:45):
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(47:07):
Alan Glasper, producer Lina Alvarez, serving as executive producer and
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