Community Connection August 28th, 2025

Community Connection Thursday August 28th, 2025. Today on Community Connection, join us as we have National Event Promoter and Legendary D.J. Geno Shelton & Radio One Indy Promotions Director David Gray speaking with the community about all of today’s pressing topics with our esteemed listeners!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
WTOCAM W two three six C are Indianapolis discussing the
issues that matter to you and keeping you informed with
what's happening in and around Indy. It's Community Connection with
Tina Cosby, brought to you by Child Advocates, a champion
for justice, opportunity and well being for children on Praise

(00:33):
AM thirteen ten ninety five point one FM.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
And good afternoon, and welcome to Community Connection. I'm Tina Cosby.
Today is Thursday, August of twenty eighth three one seven
four eight zero thirteen ten three one seven four eight
zero thirteen ten is the number two Community Connection. A
quick programming note for you, as you're all aware, the
Labor Day holiday weekend is upon us starting tomorrow and

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so on tomorrow our office are going to be closing early.
Uh and of course Monday is a holiday, So today
is our final live show of the week, but we
will be running some encore shows tomorrow and Monday that
we hope you will enjoy on the show. Today, we're
gonna be pausing just a bit to celebrate some of
our own. So we need to pardon our pride here.

(01:20):
We're just gonna celebrate our own a little later, Radio
One Indie Promotions Director David Gray has an exciting announcement
to share with you, and here in the studio with
us right now is none other than the one and
only DJ Geno Gino Shelton. Yes, I can't do it
like you, Geno.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yes, yes, you got you got a prod.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, we gotta produce. We got some toys of yes, yes, yes, Gino.
And so we are celebrating you. I mean WTLC, not am,
but w TLC in general is where you got your start. Uh.
And so what we want everybody to know is you
are celebrating a big milestone, as only you do in

(02:06):
a big way. Big milestone.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, forty years.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
I'm honored and humbled and excited about the anniversary.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
We've been doing it all year though, Tino.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
I mean we started off back in February with the
love Fest with Jeffrey Odd.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
Boy.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
What we did on the love Fest is we took
all the decades that I would here eighties nineties, in
two thousands, so I had Jeffrey ods Bourn at Kekey
Wyre at John b I sped out the decades. Then
we did the jazz Fest and that was because the
first show that I ever did was Alex Boon back
in back in the early, back in the early nineties,

(02:43):
and so we had a jazz Fest and coming up
in September twenty sixth, twenty seventh, I moved to Indianapolis
Circle City Classic Weekend nineteen eighty five, and so I'm
celebrating forty years later.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Did you ever think that you would still be doing
this forty That's a funny.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Question because Amos used to ask do you think expert?
What every last remember back in the day, that was
the one question we would all wait for. What what
do you was going to say that, you know, answer
your question? No, I you know, I mean, yeah, you know,
it's something about it. I almost left once, almost left once.
And I had an offer in North Carolina to be

(03:18):
a program director and I almost left once. And you know,
I can't really to be honest with you, my uh
she was my girlfriend there, but now my wife and
kind of just I didn't want to leave, and so
I decided to stay, and the radio station offered me
more money.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
So always, but yeah, did you know she was going
to be your wife or you were just very attached
to her?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
That's a good question, you know. I used to tell her.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
She used to get so mad at me because, like,
you know, I was a playboy, so real. Yeah, I'm
going to tell the truth.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
You know I was.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
And I used to tell him, you're almost the one,
you know, almost the one I used to dat severan
And she's just so mad almost you almost level one.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
And now she makes me pay for that.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
I pay for that.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Oh, I pay for that.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
And you're almost number one. I have never heard that.
That is a good one. So you you but you
knew there was something about her that you.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Know about it.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
She was the most she was the most kind person
I've ever you know, one of the most kind of
persons I've ever met, you know, And it was something
about her, and and and I didn't know. I never
wanted to get married, No, I never. I wouldn't be
a playboy. I wanted to be I wanted to be
a playboy. I did not want to get married, like well,
wien I get married. You know, I guess have girls,
girls girls.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
What was it about that lifestyle that you felt like
you wanted to commit to being a playboy?

Speaker 4 (04:39):
You know, I just it's probable. It's probable. You know,
it's it's psychological. You know, you know, you know you
want to get deep. Let's get deep. You know, I
think that you know, that's vulnerable, vulnerable.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
I always I grew up nerd, and so I always
wanted to be loved, you know, I always I grew
up wanting to be loved. I just felt like my
parents loved me, you know, brother sisters love me. But
I just wanted to be loved and admired and I
and I couldn't stand not being loved and admired, and
so you know, I just, you know, society made it

(05:11):
seemed like being the playboy, you know, would be the
life to have plenty of girlfriends and travel and be
a star. I wanted to be a star, and I
wanted to have girlfriends and just be a playboy. And
so you know, one day, you know, God told.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Me, no, oh yeah, now that's the story.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
I can't I can't share that story. Now that's the
deeper story. That's another story that's for the book. But basically,
God basically one day, lying in bed, said no time
to get married?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Basically yeah, and she was open to that or did
you have to work on well?

Speaker 4 (05:46):
No, she always wanted to be married and that was
the thing about it. She wanted to.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
She married me probably the first year we met. She
I know, she probably like no I did. She wanted
to be married, She wanted to have a family. She
was born, she was born. She's the ultimate mom. She's
the ultimate mom. You know, she is a she's a
girl's mom. We have three girls, and she's the ultimate mom.
I was the ultimate still wanted to be a star still,

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you know, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
So how did how did you balance that that part
of yourself with your career and your family or whatever,
and and and keep it as balanced as you have
and you've done successfully well.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Well, the thing is is that because I'm you know,
being a playboy and being a Christian doesn't really match
very well. So you know, so when I became a father,
when I became a husband, you know, I recommitted myself
to saying, look, you know this is what God.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
You know, God does not.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Want you to be this way, and I'm and trust me,
I've not been perfect in my in my trial, but
at least I know that based on the word of God,
based on what I believe, that being a husband and
a father is a priority to God.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
And if it's priority, God is a priority to me.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
So that's what I had to keep telling myself, even
though there were times in you're in this entertainment business,
you slip in your fall, but you know, God says.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
You know, you know, we serve a forgiving God.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
So is she from here?

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, she's here. And then other thing.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
It's hard to you know, it's hard to mess around
because she related to everybody in town. I mean, she's
got I think her father's got like eight nine brothers
and sisters. The Beverley shout out to all the Beverlies
and listening to all the o So it's like before
I used to, you know, to say, you're you linked
to my wife?

Speaker 4 (07:28):
You really.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Truth?

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Truth? Social Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, I have too much truth,
too much truth, too much truth.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
But but but anyway, but that does make a difference
because this is a very at times unforgiving business.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Uh, and I can't think of anything that this business
is harder on then family, marriage and relationships. So the
ability to hold it together and to not only hold
it together, but to flourish and to grow.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
That that that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I've been here forty years, I've been married thirty two.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Wow, So you know, and and.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
She's she's a rock.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Did you ever think of in this business in terms
of when I get to forty years, I want to
have it? Or you know, because a lot of times
in certain industries or whatever, you just think about from
from one event to the next, or from one whatever
to the next. You don't think in terms of I'm
racking up the years and I'm I'm getting this. So

(08:26):
how does forty There was no twenty.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
There was no twenty anniversary, there was no ten anniversary,
and there's no thirty anniversary. The only reason why there's
a forty year anniversary Leroy Robinson City Council and said
to me last year said, you know how long you
been doing this?

Speaker 7 (08:38):
You know?

Speaker 5 (08:38):
He wanted to know how you won't eve been doing it?
We've been friends forever and I said, man, you know,
next year'll be forty years. He said, Man, we gotta
do something. City gotta do something. City, gotta do something.
I mean, he was at in the city, but I
gonna do something.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
So he was trying to put together this and that,
you know, and I thought about it, thought about it.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
You know, I thought it would be fun because I
look for things that are fun, you know, I want
the city to have fun. I look for you know,
it's not just the money, you know, it's not just
you know, I'm an opportunist, you know, but it's not
just the money. It's the fun. It's the you know,
I could say that my city is better than your city.
You know, I'm proud of the city, probably from the

(09:11):
entertainment standpoint. I'm proud of the city. And so I
want to be able to stand tall.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
It's like you know, you know, when you back when
we were in that whole thing with New York and US,
you know, in the playoffs, they were like.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Well, wasn't it Indiana was in Indiana?

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Man, you I go to New York all the time,
and and I could tell New Yorkers half the time
more stuff going on in their city than they could
tell me.

Speaker 7 (09:31):
You know.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Oh I go there. I was like, well did you
know about such such myself. Well, no, I didn't know that.
I ain't. I thought I thought you was supposed to
be like the person in New York.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
You know you're supposed to go man, please, you know
it's you know, I could tell them more stuff that
they got going than they could tell themselves. So not
to say the indies New York. But you know, we
like this weekend. You know, I've got a top ten
this list this weekend. There are fifteen different events going
on and I haven't haven't questioned them all.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
That's just part of them. I don't. I've got a
top ten list of things to do this weekend.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
You know, these individuals, I'll leave yourself.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
No, No, you are not mine either.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
What I do is is I you know, I scoured
to find out what's going on in the stoat.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
What's going on? Yes, own events, yeah, my own right, but.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yeah, back, yeah, I keep everybody everybody else's thing and
not talking about the forties, but yeah, back to the fortieth. Yeah,
I just I wanted something fun, I wanted something exciting,
and I wanted to be able to say it's a
way of giving back. So all of the events there
have been some charities tied to it giving some money
to different charities. The charity that I'm going to give

(10:32):
to this particular weekend, I can't say yet because I'm
going to be able to see it at the event,
but it's going to be something that's really going to
be a blessing.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's going to be a blessing.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Our guest is a national promoter, an event uh event
maker extraordinary uh DJ Genal Shelton. Gino has had a
number of titles over the years, you know, get Live.
But Gino is here with us celebrating his fortieth fortieth anniversary.
So if you want to call and congratuate Geno, now
is your opportunity. I think it's just an amazing feat

(11:04):
because there are a lot of folks that get in
here in this business and you know they're one and done.
You know, you call them one hit wonder. You know,
they just don't have the staying power.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
It's tough.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
It's a tough businesses toughness, and it's gotten even tougher.
You know social media. Everybody's a promoter. Now it might
have been Planner.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, everybody is three one seven four four zero excuse me,
three one seven get ready to give up my number.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Hey, hey for good time.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, gotta talk about Tina. Three one seven four eight
zero thirteen ten. Three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten.
If you'd like to say congratulations to Gino on his
fortieth anniversary. And boy, it seems like just a blink
of an eye. I used to hear older people, Uh
you know, my my, my elders. I guess all they
always said, boy, it goes fast. You know, it'll go

(11:50):
in the blink of an eye. Appreciate, hey, you know,
appreciate those kids while they're little, because before you know it,
you're going to be sending them off to college, or
they're going to be leaving the house. And you know,
I'm sitting here looking at a one or two year
old child. I'm thinking, all they're just talking.

Speaker 7 (12:04):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
I was talking to my wife today about the month
of August. My daughter went to Paris and she was
doing for three weeks and it's like she was going
and then she's back. I'm like, what where did the
three weeks go? I mean, August is over, you know,
it'll be September. Monday, I'm like, time is just flying.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Monday is September.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Monday is September, So it's like whoa, you know, yeah,
you're right. Time is flying and it's and I tell
anybody celebrate me. And you guys, you know, you don't
know Tomorrow's I promise no celebrate, celebrate, you.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Know, And you are celebrating. You're doing it. You are
embracing forty even though you didn't think about it. And
you've not done an anniversary up to this point, not twenty,
not twenty five, not thirty, but forty. Somehow you've landed there.
And I tell you what you really landed? Yeah, tell three, one, seven, four, eight, zero,
thirteen ten. We are congratulating Gino Shelton on his fortieth anniversary,

(12:59):
and he is having a fortieth anniversary extravaganza for sure,
for you, for you, all, for the city, for everybody
that's been a part of his success in his life
all the way up to this point in the forty years.
So let's go to the phone lines real quick. Geno Manny,
you want to say hello, Degino m Manny, are you there?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Hello?

Speaker 7 (13:23):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, I can hear you. Are you there?

Speaker 8 (13:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yeah, Hey Jean mad up Manny man up man come.

Speaker 8 (13:29):
On, hey, Geno.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yes, sir, Yeah, I just heard the ding. I wasn't
I wasn't on yet, Okay, okay.

Speaker 8 (13:37):
I just wanted to call and to recollect you.

Speaker 9 (13:39):
Man.

Speaker 8 (13:39):
For forty years, man, I've been I've been amile of
you and your career. Man, I'm gonna tell you a
quick story, real quick.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Man.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
In nineteen ninety five, when they had the Circle City
Classic and was still downtown then, and I remember I
came down there, man, and I had such a great
time and I met you, and you showed me the
time of my life.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Man.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
I was just out hanging with you and your and
your and the way you were doing your business and everything.
You wouldn't Honorage, but you just had people around you.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Man.

Speaker 8 (14:09):
Y'all were so loving and so and just treated me
like a real Indiana.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Huge You know what I'm saying. No, Man, Yeah, absolutely,
in nineteen ninety five, that was good YouTube yeah.

Speaker 8 (14:22):
Man, yeah, man, And I'm from here. But what I'm
saying is, Man, I took a picture with you at
the New Edition concert when they was down When they
was down here, I was in wanting to sweep.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Oh wow. You gotta send me there, man, you gotta
send me there on Facebook.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
Hey, man, I'll do that another thing. Man, I'm gonna
try you don't look the tickets, man, go see that
cameo in the lakeside.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
All the conduction confunction first the lakeside. Well, we'll see
the producer. Take your name and number. Let's let's see
what I can do that. She was almost sold out.
The funk Fest is doing really good. It's almost so yeah.

Speaker 10 (14:55):
Man, that's my era right there, that's my era.

Speaker 8 (14:57):
I'll be sixty. I be sixty coming up in October. Man,
that'll be so much fun. Man, oh lord, all right,
I want to see you there too.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
We want to see let's see what we can do.
Let's see what we can do. Number with the all right,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Okay, thank you man, thank you. Three one seven zero
thirteen ten three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten gino, uh,
what's what's indian What are Indianapolis people like? Forty years.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
You're doing this? What are we like?

Speaker 7 (15:26):
Or you know?

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Do you think we've evolved? What do you think?

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Well, you say what are we like? I have to
say what am I life?

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Because I'm here, I'm from Indianapolis, you know, I mean,
I claim it, you know, even though I was born
in Chicago, raised in Michigan, I lived at forty years,
which is the majority of more I lived more than
any place.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Elf.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
You know, we are we are an interesting people, Indy
interesting people. The thing is is that you know, uh
from an entertainment stamp, because that's that's the way I speak.
From entertainment standpoint. It's a very interesting city because you know,
Indiana Black Expert, which you know gave me really.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
My big start in major concert promoting.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
They the things that they did for Indy, they did
so much from an entertainment standpoint that we as a
city sometimes can get spoiled.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
And because we you know, this city Expo man.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Was huge, I mean huge, and we were the essence
and since the Music Fest before Essence and since the
Music Fest and a lot of the things that we
are all would expert were free, and so it made
it really tough in the years going on for concert
promoters to and even to come to Indy with a
paid show because we got so much free stuff. You know,

(16:37):
Indy was just blessed with so much free stuff. And
I just the one thing I wish that I could
change in me and my good friend and parents. We
debated about this all the time, but I think that
if any could understand that, you know, it would be
great to stay in those days where everything is free.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
And we just had it all. But it just times
it is not the same.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
It's not we just it's not this.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
I mean, it's nothing you could do to bring that back,
you know. And you know, and I don't think any
in any city in the country is you know, doing
the type of big, free events that we used to
do back then during the heyday of Expo, and it
just it's made it tough. So just I think that
the city, you know, it's got to understand and remember,
hey man, times are times are different. We just gotta

(17:23):
we got to move on and support what we have now.
And we're coming along. I mean, Indy, there was a
time when no concerts came other than export classic we
have anything, and now we have a.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Way a whole lot more.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
There's still tours that skip over us because we're still
not that big powerhouse like Chicago, Detroit, d C. They'll
come out of Monday because again they're pick up dates,
you know. But again, you know, and you just gotta
you gotta stay in there, don't quit complain it, you know,
quick support the shows.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
And I know it's tough. I know money's tough. It's
tough for me.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
You know, I'm gonna fix the income. You know, I'm
at that age now that I have to look at
my money and be you know, divvy and all out. Yes,
you know, just hanging there, you know, hanging It's great.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
You know.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
The city's loved me. That's all I can say. You
asked me about the Indianapolis people.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
They love me. I got my love. They showed me
my love. You know, yeah, I got my I got
forty years work.

Speaker 7 (18:14):
Now.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
I don't know about y'all, but I got mine. I
got my love.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
And then but I also want to talk to you
about the DJs that are coming in. We gotta we
got a truckload of DJs coming back because one of
the things I am giving back is that I'm I'm
you know, some of the some of the guys I'm
you know, I'm flying in, putting up you know, some
of them are driving in under on and you know,
and but we're doing that for the city and and
and it's going to happen to two different things. That

(18:38):
first of all, if you come to any of the shows,
you'll be able to see these guys. And I want
to just get up and I want to make sure
because I don't I always forget some of the names.
So I want to make sure I say everybody's name,
because you know, I get the point where I forget
somebody's name, and yeah, they'll be mad at me. But
you got people like Roger Holloway's coming back, Ray Cooper
telling your mind. Of course, who's here, Cara von Thamas, Grifford,
Ricky Clark and Paris, Brian Wallace, Curtis Baker worked. And

(19:00):
then I'm celebrating people that didn't only work with this station,
with the t OC stations, but also worked at different
stations during the time. Because there was like a p
P P PGG, I think for Robert, I think that
that's the name of the station, and there was another.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
There are two or three other stations other the TLC
that was in the market.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
From a H which is a yeah, but you know
we got you know, h Erica Uh, Linda Clemens, Wendell, Ray,
Marcat Chapman, God Adams, Liiz Dixon, Donna Sheeley, j C.
You know, we got Beatwift, Kenny Kicks from Here, Erek One,
Troy Johnson, j Son, Wendell Ray, First Lady, Chris Ray's
coming back, King Roe, Drian Martindale who was part of

(19:40):
the Breakfast Club, Eric Michaels, donah Lynn who has started.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
At all Yeah, Eric Okay, Kelly Vaughan, either people.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
In radio that made an impact in radio in the
forty years that I was. All of them, got them
all together, do nothing. They're coming to the event and
they'll we'll introduce them on stage and then they'll be
in the lobby just greedy and need people and showing
love and you know, of course we're doing we're doing
a VIP reception that's hit at six o'clock for the

(20:13):
the VIPs.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
But but again for those who just come to the concert.
You know, whether you're a VP or not, you'll.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
Be able to Friday, Friday and Saturday night and they're
also doing a brunch and a country kitchen that's free.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
So those who don't have no money. I ain't got
no money, you can come see some of these.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
You know, not all of them will be there, but
some of them that will be at that brunch of
country kitchen on that Saturday September twenty seventh, just to
stay hang alovern No, we have been holding now let
me let me qualify, Let me let me qualify, Let
me quantify.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
The admission is free. You gotta see if you're gonna
stay and.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Eat, you gotta say.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
It's a menu so you can buy, you know, but
it's not like there's a mission charge to get in it.
You know, just got They'll be at the They'll be
at the restaurant on the rooftop saying hello and hi
and how you doing.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
We're saying congratulations to Geno shell on forty years. Forty years.
He is a nationally known promoter, a lot of experience,
brought a lot of fun and excitement and entertainment to
the city, as he continues to do to this day.
If you want to say congratulations, do so. Gino's here
in the studio three one, seven, for eight, zero, thirteen ten.

(21:19):
Let's go back to the phone lines. Iris, go ahead,
How are you? Iris?

Speaker 11 (21:24):
Are you there.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
For me?

Speaker 8 (21:28):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 11 (21:29):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yes, I can hear you.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
How are you just fine? I want to gratulate DJ
for the hard work forty years and forty more, and
I just want to thank you out of your business schedule,
you still serve the Lord.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Amen. Amen, thank you so much. I appreciate that. I
appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
I absolutely do Iris uns Our Food Pantry at Light
of the World. And a lot of people don't know that.
You know, she does a layman's job. It's just I
mean just she dedicates to you know, we feed over
three hundred families every single Monday, and I go out
every Monday and I you know, pass out the baskets
and you know, greet the people and that type of thing.
But she's you know, she and the churches, you know,

(22:11):
doing doing what the Lord has asked us to do
and has to go out and reach the reach those
in neat and so you know, she does a great
job with that.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
So thank you. I just appreciate that.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
Continue your work and your love for this for the city.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Amen.

Speaker 8 (22:23):
All right, and God continue blessing.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Three for eight zero thirteen ten Geno Shelton celebrating forty years. Geno,
how has your faith shaped your careers? It meant to you,
you know, it.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Means a lot, and you know it's a lot of
times it's kind of hard. You know, sometimes the media
talk about it because you know, it's like I did
an article to IBJ, and I don't think they mentioned
I talked about God through the whole article.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
I don't think God, what.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Time I got one live about God. The whole thing
was about you know, hey man, God, how God bless me.
I've went through some trial and tribulation, got God got
one life. So they don't really the media don't usually
like to talk about the fact. But I don't tell anybody.
You know, I'm a Christian. You know, I believe in Jesus.
I believe the book the Bible from cover to cover.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
You know.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
I know the fact that you know, giving and tithing
and say, you know has been blessed to me because
the more you give, the more you receive.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
I believe it with all my heart.

Speaker 9 (23:19):
I know that.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
You know, I could probably be a millionaire right now.
But one of the two problems is is one that
we talked about earlier and in another interview that we
you and I.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Did that you'll be able to see it on social media.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
But finances was not my thing, you know, we were.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
I grew up poor, so I didn't understand how to save,
how to invest, how to do any of those things.
So I technically I should be in a condo in
Miami right now with the money that I made through
off the course of the youth.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
But I messed around, blew it, and then you.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Know, went into a situation where I lost everything and
for three four years, you know, you know, it was nothing,
you know, working at Reebok and sixty years old, you know,
working driving uber.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, four years, you know.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
So so I know that this god, I know you
know you you can say what you want to say,
and I know me and social media we go out
the time to tell oh, man, why you believe that
that man that you know that first of all, your
black people were at Black adam and it.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Was black Okay, so let's get that straight right now. Okay.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
So they so whenever we lose your cave, wherever it
came from, it came from black folks. So that's my
take on it. So we do that's another show I
go come for you. Yeah, that's that's another show. I
don't know what you I don't know who your Adamity was.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
But my Jesus didn't have blond hair blive okay, didn't
have it. Okay. So so I'm so.

Speaker 12 (24:35):
I am.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
I am unapoliticogenetically a Christian and God and I would
not be here in this sea talking to the famous
Tina if I was not it was it was not
for God, you know.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
But you know, won't you do it?

Speaker 11 (24:50):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Every time?

Speaker 11 (24:51):
Every time.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Let's go back to the phone line three one, seven, zero,
thirteen ten. We are celebrating forty years of Geno Shelton. Uh,
if you would like to congratulate by all means, give
him a call, let him know how you feel, what
you're thinking. Uh, let's see. Let's go back to the
phone lines. We have Ray Cooper.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
The legendary, legendary is this is the legendary call him
all the way from down from Texas.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Okay, Ray Cooper, Ray Cooper, go ahead, how are you well?

Speaker 10 (25:19):
Thank you and congratulations. You know forty years man, Wow,
a blessing to the city into radio.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
You understand, Ray, you understand that this is the legend.
This man walked in Chicago, some of the greatest stations
in the world, you know. And I had the privilege
of having to come out in the air before him
from sixty ten. He was on from ten to two
and and and it was like working with a hero.
It's like, you know, if you're in basketball, I'm a
Jordan's and Pippin, you know. I mean that's the eighty

(25:49):
you know, Ray Cooper was that guy.

Speaker 10 (25:52):
Yes, you're getting too much credit.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Oh.

Speaker 10 (25:57):
I enjoyed working with you there at t See and
it was really a great place to work when I arrived.
I got there in nineteen eighty wow. And I was
there till nineteen eighty eight, and I got to work
with such a great crew. And I heard you say
that they were coming back, the ones that were still

(26:20):
able to, and that you had a truckload of DJs.
I won't know why we got coming a truck.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Ye called Trump? Everything? Blame Trump? You know tis tax cut?
To blame Trump? Every time I got down, I'm blaming Trump.
Sorry Trump? Bull was Trump?

Speaker 9 (26:41):
Did it?

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (26:44):
Go well man, I'm so excited. Man, I cannot wait
to see you. Man and some of the other guys
and gals are coming by, right. I mean, I really
appreciate you calling in again. It means a lot to me.
You know, you're in Texas men doing your thing, and
you know, hopefully we'll be able to I mean, I
want to you know, and there was a surprise. What
I want that if the guys were coming in early enough,
I wanted to try to bombard all of them to
try to come into your station.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
And being here, Boy, they would cut up, they would
cut up.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Sure, they would alive. Mike.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
What I'm going to do at the show because we
only have a really small ten to fifteen minute segment
and I got thirty DJ and I'm.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Like, what the heck am I going to get?

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah? Figure it out.

Speaker 13 (27:23):
What did you say, sir, that's a mathematical equation.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Good luck with that. Yeah, well, Ray, thanks so much
for calling me in man here.

Speaker 10 (27:36):
For what you've done for the city. I mean when
you first came there and I first met you, I
had no idea the huge impact you would have on Indy,
the things that you're doing now through your ministry and
through the things that you're doing for the community. Man,
you you came in and hit the ground running. So again,

(27:57):
congratulates Gun.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Thank you forty years Real quick on Ray, you know
and ready doesn't remember this, You know, I knew. I mean,
like like yesterday when I first came to Indeed, you
know you know, we were we were rocking. We were
rocking soccer radio station. We weren't playing, and we had
a thing called Laser one and Ray would go out
in Laser one and we go to different areas than
we do, like like pop ups. You know, it's it
wasn't a remote, but it was kind of like a remote.

(28:20):
My first ever encounter in doing that was with Ray Cooper.

Speaker 7 (28:23):
He was in the van.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
We were going to life Its Square to do a
stick up, which is when we put bumper stickers on cars.

Speaker 11 (28:28):
Back then.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
We had to do all that back we was it
was labor and tents back then, so you know you
worked eight hours of back then. So Ray Cooper, we yeah,
you went. Ray was driving the van and Laser one
and in Laser one was popular. You know, he raised
one come up with like Xanta Claus. People just run
to Laser one. So Jay's on the air, raised on
driving to the city event. I've never done anything like

(28:49):
that before, so I'm excited. Oh man, we're gonna do it.
We're gonna put stickers on kinds great. So Jay's like, yeah,
well Laser one, Well, Ray Cooper, right now, we want
to talk about where we're going and Ray hands me
the phone because back then we did it through the
old life. We had to talk on on the mobile
phone which was connected to the vehicle. You want the
cell phone, and I had to do a sixty second
promo on the spot.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Never done that in my entire life.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Really just handed me the phone. It's like, it's like
you're gonna you're gonna learn how to do this. You're
gonna dive into the water and you're gonna learn how
to do these pop ups and need remote stuff. And
it was funny because it was kind of like a
baptism by him baptist. But I'll never I handled it.
I did, I have it, but I'll never forget it,
never forget.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
You know what, I don't know what a single person
in this business that has not had that kind of
a moment that you talk about, because a similar thing,
I can say, a similar thing happened to me. I
was told I was going to be training for about
a week. First day I was on the job, they
had me out doing a live shot with the fire.
I didn't know anything, but they said go and and
if you don't.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Know, that's exactly what happened to me. That's exactly what.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Singer swim.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yep, that's exactly what. I'll never get it, you know.

Speaker 10 (29:57):
And Yeah, everybody's got stories and I look forward to
hearing some from the other jocks when we all get together. Yeah,
there's some great radio stories out there. I remember my
first day on the air. I was at the station
in West Virginia and they hired me and they hadn't
told the guy that I was replacing in his chair

(30:21):
in the studio when he came in.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Oh my god.

Speaker 10 (30:25):
Yeah, that was a little drama. Just things started.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah, we're gonna have a great job.

Speaker 11 (30:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Still twenty six, twenty seventh Clues Hall. Please come on
through it if you can't, you know you can't make
it to the concerts. We're gonna be at a country
kitchen on that Saturday, just kind of for free coming
have fun to talk to the guys.

Speaker 10 (30:43):
I would like to meet everybody. Please come through. It
would be great to see Please come through and let
us say hi, because you.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Just never know.

Speaker 10 (30:52):
Tomorrow's not promised to endy and thanks for letting me
on your air.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Oh, thank you for coming on. We really appreciate it.
Joyed visiting with you and looking forward to seeing you
when you get here. Okay, all right, thank you bye bye? Hey, hey, Hello.
I can hardly wait. I can hardly wait for this
gathering of DJs that is going to be off the chain.
Speaking of DJ's, we got another special one on the
line waiting for you. What we're gonna do real quick.

(31:18):
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and we will let you know who your surprise is.
Right to stay right there, surprised.

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Speaker 3 (35:53):
And we are back with Community Connections, sitting here saying
congratulations on an incredible forty years to the incomparable Geno Shelton,
DJ Geno.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
You know, we've been going down memory lane a lot,
a lot of the DJs that you you you you
reassembled your assembling forty uh past. I guess from here.
I guess from w TLC, from here, you know, past
DJs from here, past.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
DJs, some of them from TLC, some from the other stations.
You know, some of them that worked in the.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Market, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Anniversary.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Yeah, but they're all DJs that had an impact in
in my life some one way another because I was
I was a fan of DJs. I was a fan
of radio, and I was like, you know, uh, I
remember listening to the radio as a kid in Michigan,
and I used to listen to w l S in Chicago, Chicago,
and but also sometimes every now and then because we
lived like off the lake, you could get v O

(36:47):
N w v O N in Chicago, you know, the
big giant, you know, and and sometimes you get n
OV out of Milwaukee though if the IF on the
AM signals because sometimes the AM is if it's night,
you know, we'd get you.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Know, crazy signals and the station.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
And I used to try to listen to the solid stations,
and I used to try to imitate the DJ from
back then.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
You know.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
That's why Ray Cooper's it's, you know, so cool to
have him back up. He was on WBMX in Chicago, which.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Was a huge powerhouse.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
They were they were a powerhouse man.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well we got we got another former DJ.
It was absolutely incredible, talk about powerhouse. His name you
just say his middle name, and everybody knows who were
talking about. Sparkle Soocks oh.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
Man him and Ricky of the story was right that
he asked him any questions Tina about any question about
WTC's history.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Okay, let's reg amn Thomas Sparklesock's Griffin heard here, by
the way on Praise AM thirteen ten and ninety five
point one FM Saturday Mornings with Operation Bread Basket Presents Harambe.
He is the co host with another incomparable legend, the
Reverend doctor Tommy Brown Thomas Griffin. Come on back in here.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
How you doing.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
Do I have to come in.

Speaker 11 (38:00):
For I can go home?

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Oh my goodness, Yes, you have to come in because
we need you to. I tell you you're a you know.
I had asked Gino of the group of forty that
he has assembled, you know, to honor, you know, to
celebrate his fortieth I wonder how many of the group
of forty, or what percentage of the group of forty
are still in the business.

Speaker 11 (38:22):
Very few of us because again, and you start thinking,
was you're going back forty years. A lot of us
are seasoned and that nice way to say old. And
so I don't really know of anybody that's still in
the business. Yeah, I don't know of anybody right now
the top of my head that I know they're still

(38:42):
in the business.

Speaker 24 (38:43):
Well, now all kind of did babble.

Speaker 11 (38:45):
And so that's why I do the Saturday morning show, because,
as Gino has already stated, this radio thing is like
a drug, and once you get it in your body,
it's just something that you really love and enjoy. Doing.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah, yeah, Geno, do you feel drugged?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Is that what Thomas Thomas? I don't know if Yeah,
it is a it is a drug in a sense. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
Yeah, it's just because if you're a radio guy. You know,
see I'm I'm a you know, Tom was a radio
I'm a radio guy. So you know I could talk
about radio stations. You know, I can talk about stations
in California, in Texas. I'm a radio guy.

Speaker 7 (39:23):
You know.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Me and Guy Black used to sit around and we
used to talk about always to talk about the guy
he could he could run off man, he didn't. He
didn't work with so many radio stations. It don't make
it don't make sense. So you can tell, you know,
so we would run off by radio who had the
most knowledge about radio. But it's it's, you know something,
because it's that total celebrity. You know, that that high
that you get, you and me and Thomas always talks
about this as well when it comes to the concert

(39:45):
promoting and promoting, you know that high that you get
when you with absolutely, absolutely absolutely a matter of fact,
if it wasn't for Thomas, Thomas laid the groundwork for me.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Even though I promoted in Michigan. He was he was
the blueprint.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
I studied Thomas Griffin, I studied Clayver Center, I studied
with it. I was gonna say call it different.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
You know, he won't.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
You don't call it study, But I say study and admired,
admired him because he, you know, he was the He
was the blueprint when it came to motions in this city.
So I'm I'm I'm a sponge and I learned from
all those.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
I learned from Ricky. You know, I learned from Kelly Corson.
Even though Kelly, Kelly Coson didn't not too good. You
know that he tried to do the fat the fat
boy that the c well Kelly where I should take
because Kelly's the past.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
He was going, he was going on the glory. But
that was so funny because we killer laughed about it
afterwards though. So he has the fat boys that gay
like we just thought it was going to be the
biggest things in this life bread but he had like
on a Wednesday or Thursday, and I mean literally nobody
should I mean talk about a handful of people and
fat boys were hot and for some reason we didn't
play rap. So it didn't really you know, even though

(40:50):
he brought him, it didn't really you know, Yeah, it
didn't resonate, and so it didn't turn out.

Speaker 11 (40:55):
So, yeah, we could talk about losers and and some
of the some of the crazy things we did. To
my knowledge, I was the first person to ever bring
that to the city of Indianapolis at the Claver Center
and I lost. I did Brian McKnight at the Claver
Center with Mike Julius, who was one of the old DJs. Yes, yes,

(41:17):
a nighttime show. I don't think that made money. We
did that on New Year's Eve. I remember when I
had my under twenty one club over on Pendleton Pike
in thirty eighth Street and we had you remember the
group called the Boys.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Matter of fact, we've walked them for
Black Export. They were on part of Summer Celebration one year.

Speaker 24 (41:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (41:36):
So I've done enough losses in my lifetime. Lost money
with Lakeside at the Claver Center.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
As a matter of fact, Well, the word is is
you're not a promoter.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
If you if you have never lost, I don't know.
To me, if you never lost, to come out, you're
not really you just you're an event.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Planner. You know, you're not a floater, you know.

Speaker 11 (41:56):
So the deal is, I got hot at TLC in
seventy nineteen seventy seven, and so I was a short
Ridge guy. And I tell people all the time all
the early WTLC DJ's were all short Ridge High School guys.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Oh really, okay, yep, uh huh yep.

Speaker 11 (42:12):
But when I got there, there was the guy that
hired me was named Fred Moore, who was a Shortridge guy.
And I tried to run down the list, d Warsaw
Rich Brady, Roger Holloway, and even a guy named Asher
Ben Ruby who worked at WNAP. We were all Shortridge
High School guys. Oh I forgot Tony Edwards again.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
All shortre Rich of DC Shorridge of a vocational program
or something or media program.

Speaker 11 (42:42):
In the sixties, short Ridge was affiliated with Butler University,
and the Shortridge had a radio station on the third floor. Now,
when I got there, the radio station was no longer
in effect because I didn't come to Shortridge until nineteen
sixty nine. But I guess some of those guys did
those radio and TV classes and so they just were

(43:06):
able to transition easily and immediately from it to radio
announcers and I.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Never knew that and then that, to me, that was
such an amazing story. And it's stories like that that
just really wanted me to bring back everybody to just
talk about it, because again, you know, I was talking Troy,
Troy was saying to me, and he made it, you
know interesting, is that we only come together, all of
us come together during a funeral. Yeah, you know, that's
the only time we Why can't we at least come
together once or twice whatever when we're all well, when

(43:35):
we're live, we're you know, we're up. You know, so
I this it means a lot, you know what I mean,
It means a lot. I know that Thomas has helped
me put what Thomas is putting together a thing that's
happening at at Country Kitchen on that Saturday during Classic
Weekend where anybody can just come up and just say, hey,
how you doing. You know, But it's it's it's it's
it's it's it's a good feeling. It's it's it's hopefully

(43:56):
the city will it'll be something. And that's what we
like to do with promoters. Give you a memory, give
you something that you can you know, when you're back
at your job. Man, I was at the show man
and such and such showed out and he did this,
you know, just a memory of because it's so life
is so depressing sometimes, you know, you just sometimes you
just need a little bit of joy, you know, a

(44:16):
good memory.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah, let's lessons learned in the last forty years, Thomas Gino.
What what what can you what could you possibly share
with folks in terms of what maybe what you didn't
expect to learn that you're glad you did, uh, and
what you wanted to learn.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
I think for me, you know, we talked about the
finance thing that that I learned, you know later on,
you know, when you go through something that you know
you should have saved, you know you should have been
you know, it should have been better when it came
to your finances and your money. And I think another
thing for me that lately that I'm learning is that,
you know, the the giving back. You know, I've always
been a giver, but you know there's something about when

(44:54):
you're really super sincere about giving back to an individual,
not just the money or that, but of yourself the time.
Because I'm impatient and so I've learned that time man,
that means a lot to people, you know, if you
spend time with anybody, especially those who are sick or
shut in. You know, I got a friend of mine

(45:14):
that you know, I'm gonna say his name, that you know.
And he was a healthy athletic, went to the gym
all the time. And he's laying up in the bed
right now, you know. And we're the same age, you know.
And I did everything but not to cry. But you know,
just spending time with him made me realize how blessed
I am. Yes, that would be for me.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
You know, Thomas Lessons learned over your career.

Speaker 11 (45:37):
As a promoter, all money ain't good money, and so
I never try to put myself in situations where I'm
going to owe people or not take care of business.
I'm never going to chase a dollar because a lot
of times you sell your soul to the devil for
a payday, and that's just not how I operate. So

(45:59):
I'll try to do the right thing. And if I
owe you, you're going to get paid no matter what
I have to do to make sure you're taken care of.
So my reputation is going to be stronger than anything
else I can muster. So I know my good name
is all I got, so I'm not going to screw
that up.

Speaker 25 (46:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, So did you ever think that you would be
in the business as long as you've been at at Thomas?

Speaker 8 (46:25):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (46:25):
Well, you know, it's so crazy because when I graduated
from high school, I had no idea what I wanted
to do. And my father said that you walking around
all the time acting like a DJ sounds like you
need to be in communication, So try that. Though I
had a job at the telephone company. I was a
long distance telephone operator eighteen and nineteen and twenty years old.

(46:46):
After I graduated from high school, I took some courses
at Iupuy, and I'm like, you know, this college stuff
is not for me. So I left and I begging
Roger Holloway, what do I need to do to be
at day.

Speaker 8 (46:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (47:00):
He suggested I get a couple of turntables and start
practice reading out loud and go and take back. In
those days, you had to pass the third class.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Broadcast license job. What happened to that? I guess that's
no longer requirement.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Yeah, I feel three times I got my life, and
then the next year they didn't. They didn't require any boy.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
I remember hearing about that. Yeah, you just have the license, y'all.

Speaker 11 (47:26):
Let anybody on the radio.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Man.

Speaker 11 (47:30):
Yeah, I had to have some semblance of knowledge and talent.
And so because you had to pass that third class
broadcast radio license test, Uh, you know you were more
dedicated because you have some investments.

Speaker 7 (47:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (47:45):
Yeah, I took the test two times or maybe three.
But Roger Holloway told me, you know, man, it's not
that hard. I just studied a little bit on the bus,
got off the bus, took the test. Yeah. Well, the
difference is he went to school for that.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
It's like somebody telling you at the store, Oh, it's easy,
you can put it together yourself. I never believe that.
I'm like, yeah, maybe for you. So where do you
guys see the most of you? I mean, you're certainly
so accomplished and had, you know, the staying power, incredible
staying power in this business. Where do you see radio
forty years from now?

Speaker 4 (48:21):
You don't.

Speaker 11 (48:21):
Yeah, it's nonexistent, And I'll tell you why. And it's
heartbreaking from me. One thing that made WTLC work when
I worked there, when I first got hired, if we
had local ownership, with local concerns with a local news department,
with people that could relate to what's going on in

(48:42):
the community. Now in America, the biggest problem that I
see across the board greed. Greed, and then after that
greed because instead of having local ownership, you're owned by
a company or conglomerate. They don't care that there was
a wreck on thirty three. They want to know how
much money did we make for our stockholders, And so

(49:05):
it's just kind of discouraging that you need to have
somebody that has a concern for their community to make
sure that radio stations can prosper and grow and go forward.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
At least in my opinion, I think for me to
be able to see in me and Dion, who's who's
your what's the title of the right now?

Speaker 3 (49:25):
He's vice president of audio for Urban Ones, a parent company.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
We had a conversation of interesting conversation about this. I
really think in all my heart that in order for
radio to get back to, for lack of a better term,
glory days and to survive, Yeah, and to survive, they've
got to go back to personality. They've got to go
back to personality radio individual local personality. Because here's here's
the problem. I can go anywhere in here music. I

(49:54):
can go anywhere here music. But if you got an
individual that is compelling, just like a podcast, that's why
podcasts are successful. It's got to go back to the
personality and the music together. And then you know, the
the DJs are you know, interviewing actually the acts that
are playing, like the Chris Browns and whatever. It's gotta

(50:14):
it's got, but it's got to be local. It's got
to be local, and it's got to be able to
relate to the individual in that town. And that way
they'll take the time out. Hey, you know, because you
know that I make it Radios and cars.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
I mean, I got a call the other day. I
got a card call it.

Speaker 10 (50:29):
I got a call.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
I couldn't I didn't understand. It was like I had
to go through the app or do something crazy to
get a radio station. It was the place.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
I don't know what, I don't know what kind of
car this was, but I couldn't get I had to.
It took me two hours to figure out how to
get the local radio. Caulse I always look at listen
to local radio when I go to I couldn't figure
it out. So it to me, it's got to get.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Back to that.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
You know that that and that way individuals, every.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Individuals will will seek you out.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
You know, now you've got an audience that I want
to hear what Towns is saying, or I want to
see what Patina's saying. I want to hear what Camera
is talking about on the radio, because Camera's talking about
something that nobody else is talking about, and I want
to hear what he's got to say. Or I want
to he's funny or you know, or you gonna talk
about that that party last night, or who got shot?
You know, they're going to talk about something that makes
me want to listen. And I think until radio come

(51:21):
back to that, it's just gonna keep on, it's gonna spiral.

Speaker 11 (51:24):
I mean, you know, you know that's the reason and
the reason why they're not coming back to that is
because greed, because they can syndicate something and make more
money and paying a personality to draw people to your station.
So until we stop as a community and as a society,
stop caring about trying to make every last penny and

(51:48):
enjoy the fact that we have confident people in the world,
we're going to always have this dilemma.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
In my opinion, I think I was reading something in
one of the magazines or trades or whatever that radio
is doing even though the it's tough economy, radio is
doing better than television because of the nimbleness of it.

Speaker 6 (52:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
You know, both are having a hard time with marka
as Thomas says, with money, but radio is faring far better.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
I liked. I like to see that narrative.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
I mean again, I don't and I don't discount it,
but I mean I would because I really, you know,
it's hard for me. I was in Atlanta about two
months ago, and I asked the lady, because I always
asked this question.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
I said, you know, it's such a such is gonna
be in town. I heard Bony James is going to
be at the Fox.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
She said, yeah, I don't hear about it. I said, yeah,
I heard that on the radio here when I was here.
And then he said, well, I had never listened to
the radio. She told me what, I haven't listened to
radio in seven years. I mean, this is the uber driver,
It's true uber driver. And and when I was Uber,
that's all I did was listening to radio because you know,
because I need to be entertained, you know, because I'm
a radio guy.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
But she don't. She didn't listen to radio at all.
And I'm thinking, how do people get their information?

Speaker 5 (52:55):
So, I mean, what you're saying could be true, but
I would just I would love to I would love
to say the source, because I've not seen that. I'm
not seen eating one of them really gaining any kind
of ground, you know, when because of media.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Like I said, it was bleak the article. I'll see
if I can find it. It was bleak for both
because you're hemorrhaging money because of streaming and you know
a lot of other things. But in the in the
hemorrhaging money picture, radio is doing better than television. Well people,
that's why TV sets. I think it references to why
television sets are so much cheaper now because these handheld computers.

(53:30):
You know, folks can look at their series on here
you're you know your girls?

Speaker 5 (53:34):
I bet you they man and my daughters moved back home,
got TV in the room. I don't think it's ever
been on.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Yeah, no, no, no, they don't do that, No, no,
not at all. So but yeah, so it's it's it's
interesting and it'll be interesting to see where we are
at the end of this current administration. But you know,
and all that's good for another day, but but right
now it's the celebration. And uh, Thomas Gino. You and
Geno both said you didn't think in terms of ten year,

(54:01):
five year, twenty five year. You didn't think in terms
of that. You just enjoyed the industry and are still
enjoying the industry, if I understand you correctly. So you
all are going to be doing it?

Speaker 11 (54:12):
Yeah, well, at this point, you know, I'm not getting.

Speaker 7 (54:15):
Any younger, none of us are.

Speaker 11 (54:19):
I don't know how much longer I'll be in this arena,
but for right now, I think I'm fairly competent, and
I think I can can go on for at least
another year or two.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
You're gonna be in no longer than that, Thomas. Hell,
how long has doctor Brown been in it?

Speaker 11 (54:34):
Well, doctor Brown is eighty three years old. So he's
on the air every Saturday morning with me, or I'm
on the air every Saturday morning with him.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Y'all are together? Yes, Yeah, let's squeeze in one last
call here for the both of you. Joe, go ahead,
how are you already?

Speaker 7 (54:50):
Thank you?

Speaker 24 (54:50):
I'd just like to give it a shout. Ope, and
you're forty years and you know. One thing about baby
TLC that I'll never forget. I was on leave in
nineteen sixty eight June, and WTLC had been talked about
in the Jet magazine about how great the radio station was.

(55:13):
And I remember sitting on the side of my bed
after I got up at my mother's house and they
announced the passion of West Montgomery.

Speaker 9 (55:23):
Wow.

Speaker 24 (55:24):
I never forget that on WTLC. The other thing is
kind of unique, Fred Moore. Do you remember the show
that he had called Jack in the Box?

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (55:35):
Well, actually, Jay, if I'm not mistaken, did Jock in
the Box If I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 24 (55:41):
Moore show you?

Speaker 4 (55:42):
No, that was Jay because they Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Because the reason why I know that is because it
was so funny because the guy would come in and
they would be just shaking.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I mean they would just shake and be so nervous.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
And then afterwards I would have to take calls and say, well,
how do you think the Jacklateboux. I used to hate
taking those calls because sometimes, you know, the cause would.

Speaker 7 (56:03):
Be so mean.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
It would be so mean.

Speaker 24 (56:08):
What can I tell you something? Yes, remember when you
said you were trying to emulate one of the disc jockeys.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Yes, I was one of the drock in the box.

Speaker 8 (56:18):
Oh wow, okay, okay, I used to emulate.

Speaker 24 (56:21):
Now listen if fits one O five one O five
point five the power PLC Indianapolis, where there's twenty five
minutes on the down the old side of eleven o'clock. Now,
somebody used to say that morning show was that?

Speaker 11 (56:40):
Was that?

Speaker 7 (56:40):
Was?

Speaker 26 (56:40):
That?

Speaker 11 (56:41):
Was that?

Speaker 4 (56:41):
A news line?

Speaker 5 (56:42):
That sounds like a line from maybe the news one
of the newscasters of the radio.

Speaker 24 (56:48):
And I want you to give a shout out to
one of my sisters who used to live down the
street from me.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Uh miss Speaky Bukim, mister b And she.

Speaker 24 (56:58):
Was one of my neighbors down.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Remember him.

Speaker 24 (57:02):
And another show I remember on w t l C
was night Flight.

Speaker 8 (57:06):
Night Flight.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
You gom.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yeah, a lot of us listened to her late night
in college, pulling those all nighters and and you.

Speaker 24 (57:19):
Know, the music that she played was shooting and her
voice was shooting. And I got the opportunity to meet her.
But I'll tell you the truth.

Speaker 7 (57:30):
W t l C was it.

Speaker 24 (57:32):
I mean, when you went out of town, people knew
of w.

Speaker 7 (57:35):
T l C at some of their dis jobs.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Yeah, it was I was on to be a part
of it. I mean, like I said, we I mean Tim.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Tim was talking earlier about legendary heritage stations across the country.
When you talk about being in Atlanta, b LS in
Chicago and New York, uh G c I and b
MX in Chicago. You know, n O V Milwaukee, v
O N Chicago back in the day when the AM
stations weren't the big thing.

Speaker 24 (58:00):
You know who was the bench jockey they had the
deep wars He was on in the afternoon, had a
real deep voice. And I think when he left he
went to Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Oh he got me on that one show.

Speaker 27 (58:13):
Year what year?

Speaker 24 (58:13):
It was real deep? You know what the year that
had to be nineteen seventy two, seventy three, somewhere around there.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Okay, yeah, you got me on that one that we
should have had Thomas Thomas would have known that right away.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Thomas in his story Thomas left us.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Yeah, that was left Thomas in the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but yeah, that was the oldest because it was it
was HB. Davis.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
HB.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Davis. No, it wasn't Davis.

Speaker 24 (58:37):
Okay, a real, real deep war, real big war.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tim, you will take what take you
what you would come by either the shows on the
twenty six, twenty seven The Clues or come by Country
Kitchen on that Saturday afternoon during the brunch and asked
Thomas direct, and he'll be able to tell you because
I don't know, matter of fact. Matter of fact, I've
text Thomas after the show and I posted on my
Facebook page. But yeah, you're right, yeah, I mean, it

(59:01):
was some legendary guys man. And the thing is is
that Tina, we were family members, we were extended family members.
That radio stayed on our time spent listening. Back then,
the people have the radio from the time they woke
up in the morning until every time they went to
be that radio stayed on with.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
The TV constant companions, constant.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
And news news that they had.

Speaker 10 (59:23):
It was outstanding.

Speaker 24 (59:24):
Those those people that they had doing the news on
w Chelsea.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
They were award winning group awarder. Thank you, Joe. We
appreciate you. We got to get to a quick break here.
You know, there's a couple more folks, and I want
you to I want you to be able to remind
everyone at the top of the hour after we take
this quick break about your up you know, your upcoming
anniversary events, and uh, we'll let these folks say say
something to you real quick, and then we're going to

(59:50):
move on because we're going to be talking to Uh.
He's coming in it too. Oh man, he wants to talk.
Maybe he'll get a chance to say thank you to
you as well.

Speaker 28 (59:58):
Well.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
I used to say thank you to him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
Yeah, you got me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
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Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
And we are back wrapping up a wonderful conversation, an
absolutely wonderful conversation with the incomparable DJ Geno Shelter, now
celebrating forty years in the business. All of it's spent
right here in Indianapolis, right, Gino, about forty with the
majority of it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Forty years, Yeah, forty years you right.

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Here in Indianapolis. So you are giving back in a
way that only Gino does. You know, you're doing it big.
You're doing it big. A couple of folks that wanted
to say congratulations. And then we're going to remind our
listeners how they can take advantage and participate in your
forty year celebration. So let's go. Let's go back to
the phone lines. Excuse me, Line one, Uncle Nate for Gino.

Speaker 11 (01:05:43):
Gino, Nate?

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
What's going on?

Speaker 11 (01:05:45):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
What's going on with you? Rob? You got it?

Speaker 8 (01:05:48):
Brother?

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
You know what it is. I mean, I'm here, I'm here,
talk to me.

Speaker 10 (01:05:53):
What's on your risk?

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
What's on my risk?

Speaker 7 (01:05:57):
What's the message?

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
The message on my wrist? That's a good question. What
what what should be the message on my wrist?

Speaker 8 (01:06:05):
Remember those two bags?

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
I gave you too much back? Oh yeah, I do remember?

Speaker 5 (01:06:11):
But help remind me because you know you're talking about
well on the radio now, So remind everybody.

Speaker 10 (01:06:17):
The message is try more love, try more love.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Okay, are you familiar with that, ja, Yeah, try more.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Yeah, I remember, I remember we gave that to me. Yeah,
I appreciate that.

Speaker 28 (01:06:30):
Okay, Whoever years ago, I'd run into you downtown, you
going in and out of Chase Bank, and I told you,
you know, you keep it up, You're going to be somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Yep. Yeah, Well man, I appreciate that encouragement.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
And I appreciate you, man, because you know, it's that
kind of encouragement that kept me here, that kind of
love that kept me here. You know, it's you know,
I can't thank India enough for the support. You know,
te I told you the story about the very first
show I ever did at the Walker Theater back in
nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
I was on the air.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Were doing a party called Hots, and I spent all
my money, everything I had on the party. And he
was like, you do what you know what you're doing man,
And I say sure. And then so the day of
the party, febru Worth's weekend, February nineteen eighty six, it's
a blizzard, snowstorm. Oh my, and so I'm driving down
Indiana Avenue going around the corner. There's the line two
blocks long in the snow for that very first event

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I ever did, so I knew that God was telling
me this is the place.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Nay, thank you so much for calling me. I appreciate
you well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
John.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
After that that snowstorm, you were off and running, Marcus Chapman,
go ahead, how are you? Uh uh?

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Oh see see see what you're doing?

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Are you doing anything?

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
This is this is the legendary Marcus chapter. This is
this is the man who was on all the TV show.
He was on the show with Urban One, the one
about the tellinghim about the the artist Marcus.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
Unsuck.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Yeah, he was on USSUNG and he was like, you know,
he had the top rated evening show here at TLC.
Went off to be in Dallas, works the big the
big station, another herody station in Dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Marcus Chapan is coming back back home.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Why wonderful. You're gonna be in the country kitchen, right
you go.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
Yeah, you gotta go do that, but you gotta be
He's coming back.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
For the events of the twenty six twenty seven includes
Marcus Staks were calling them, Man tell me, tell them,
man remind him, man remind him about you.

Speaker 10 (01:08:19):
Yeah, you know it's funny.

Speaker 28 (01:08:20):
I was the kind of a unique time because TLC
was kind of going through a thing where they were
trying to become a little more hip hop because that
was what was happening at the time. Yeah, but at
the same time they were trying not.

Speaker 10 (01:08:33):
To lose the old school crowd either, right, So.

Speaker 28 (01:08:37):
You know, they kind of modeled themselves after the station
that I had just come from here in Chicago, which
was w g c I. And uh, you know, night
shows at that time in urban radio were more hip
hop than say, midday you didn't really hear too much.
Rather as the time of day, you know, afternoon you
get a little bit more, and then nighttime it was

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like more wrapped in R and B. But R and
B was so strong that it was a really good
balance from the music standpoint. So what I tried to
do was give people reasons to listen beside the music.
So I would take like song titles records that were
out at the time, and tournament the features where people
could call in. So like Ja Ru had hollow hollows,

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So I did a thing where like people would call
in to give hollows. All the Willis were shoutouts, right,
just by changing the name.

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
It was unique to me.

Speaker 28 (01:09:33):
Because they did shoutouts, but I was the only one
doing hollows, you know, and like Big Tim has had
get your role on. So I did the thing for
the summer time. People would call and say what kind
of ride they were rolling in?

Speaker 7 (01:09:45):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:09:46):
You know, it was just stuff like that, just to
make it fun and make it energetic.

Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
Personality Radio man, Personality and Personality Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
You had a book to market?

Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
You got you? Did?

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
You a couple of books? If I'm not mistaken, Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:09:59):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. A few of them as a
matter of fact. Uh, the last two were like volume
one two of a Music Guy. Basically it was called
the Coup's Music Book Ever made a kat five hundred,
which was actually just the online project that I did
for my birthday one year. And now I decided I
wanted to preserve it in book form, and I ended

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up getting a deal, and uh, they came to publishers,
came up with the idea of splitting it in half
so it would be volume one and two. They ended
up giving me the rights back to it after years
they didn't do nothing with it. But then I just
kept that same format and put it out through Amazon's company. Yeah,
and That's that's what actually got me on on some.

Speaker 7 (01:10:38):
What a what A? What?

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
When did you start radio? Though?

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
Because I was because we were all like, you know,
when a new job comes into town, we always we
always kind of figure out who's this guy, what does
he think he gonna do?

Speaker 7 (01:10:48):
And what?

Speaker 33 (01:10:49):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
When did you start radio?

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
How how long have you? You know, when did you
when you were in high school? College or what?

Speaker 14 (01:10:54):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
How did you start the radio?

Speaker 28 (01:10:57):
I started in college Intember of ninety two. I came
up with the you know, I was in college and
just didn't have like a.

Speaker 10 (01:11:06):
Major or anything. It wasn't like a life flowing gold.

Speaker 28 (01:11:09):
I had to, you know, start figuring out what direction
I was going. And once I figured that out, I
was like, oh, I'm perfect for this, you know. So
I started doing radio and college I was, you know,
picking my own music, playing actual records from collection. I
did that for three years, and in somewhere in between,
I interned w GCIS summer ninety four. Once I graduated

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in ninety five, I got into the station that summer
and I was when I first started there. I wasn't
on the air right away, you know, because remember back
then before everything was digital, you had to have you know,
more stuff going on. Somebody had to pull the music
off the carts, right, you know, look like eight track tapes,
the commercials on those, and then you have people taking requests.

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So they always had somebody helping out in the studio.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Yeah, you got engineers, you had They had engineers in Chicago,
so you had to because it was union, right, so
they had to have engineers running the stations and the
jobs base, not in the studio though.

Speaker 28 (01:12:07):
Whoever was on they had to run their own show.
They would also have somebody helping out just answering the
phones and you know, getting the music and commercial.

Speaker 10 (01:12:16):
And all that.

Speaker 28 (01:12:17):
So I started out doing that and then eventually I
got my got on air. I didn't have a show
for like nine months. Then I had my own show
weekend overnight. Then eventually that became weekends in prime time,
and then it became two weekend primetime shows. And during
the course of that happened and that's when the opening

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came up at TLC and the program dur at that
time was Brian Wallace, and I had actually talked to
him like four years earlier. He was in North Carolina.

Speaker 10 (01:12:51):
Because back then you.

Speaker 28 (01:12:52):
Used to have to send out tapes to different air checks. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
air checks and resumes out, you know, and I had
I had talked to him like four years earlier, but yeah,
he ended up flying me out there. It was the
first time I'd ever been on a plane.

Speaker 33 (01:13:09):
Wow.

Speaker 28 (01:13:10):
It was like a thirty minute flight.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
Wow. Wow.

Speaker 28 (01:13:14):
What was funny When auditions for the job, I had
to learn.

Speaker 10 (01:13:19):
Their whole system that day.

Speaker 7 (01:13:22):
Wow.

Speaker 28 (01:13:23):
And fortunately I had another job at the station, working
in production, so I was used to, you know, certain
equipment that we used that was also being used at CLC.
But then I had to, yeah, learn the whole thing,
and so I did a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
Baptized by fire.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
How many times have we talked about that? Yeah, Baptism
by fire. That seems to be the model of this business,
I guess in a lot of ways. Baptism by fire.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
Marcus was very excited about you coming, man. I'm super hyped.
I can't wait for us to get together, talk about
the stories, man, and the camaraderie that we had, and hopefully,
you know, you'll you'll have as much fun as I
know I'm going to have during the anniversary. Thanks man,
Thanks for being a part of it though.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
Thank you.

Speaker 28 (01:14:02):
Yeah, well, I appreciate that anybody. And I'm gonna tell
you one thing I would really like to see you.

Speaker 25 (01:14:07):
Know.

Speaker 28 (01:14:07):
When I was on there were a lot of kids calling.
You know, they'd be ten years old, fifteen years old, whatever.
And that was twenty five years ago. Wow, some of
those kids as adults now in their thirties and forties.

Speaker 10 (01:14:19):
I would love to see you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
I guarantee they remember. And I guarantee you there'll be
people kids they remember. I guarantee you, because that's the
craziest thing to me. A person came up to me
the other day said, man, you remember me, You remember me?
I won I won one hundred and five dollars on
the on the radio.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
I called in.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
I've never seen a guy, but because he called in,
we're supposed to knew each other and I was supposed
to know who he was. So yeah, that would be.
That's Marot, that would be. That's gonna be great to
be able to see if those people remember. Not sure
they do that, I mean because you you made an
impact when you were here.

Speaker 10 (01:14:49):
Yeah, and that was during the time.

Speaker 28 (01:14:51):
Where people didn't know what the radio folks look like.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
He just go just go online and Sam good point,
good point, all right, Marcus, well, thank you so much
for calling in. We really appreciated. Geno's just grinning from here.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
To ears all the way Chicago. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Yeah, cod in the love, thank you, Thank you, Marcus
Chapman and Gino. We got one last caller, uh, and
then we're gonna have you remind everybody how they can participate.
And then we've got a we got another one of
ours here. We're going to celebrate today as well. So
he's he's sitting right next to you, so we'll talk
to him in a minute. Absolutely, okay, go ahead, Ricky, Hey, do.

Speaker 10 (01:15:32):
Not forget the late jazz man, Richard Belly jolly man.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
You got to say, Joe if you don't say nothing else,
Joe Coley, I never got it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
I never got the pleasure man, But I heard great stories,
great thing Joe Coley.

Speaker 8 (01:15:50):
Yes, sir, thank you, and love grew up with you
here in the city.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
I take care all right, man, hopefully hopefully come on
out man, you know, whether one thing or another, but
make be sure you come on out. But again, to
wrap it up, Tita, thanks for having us here for
your anniversary. Celebration giving back to the people. September twenty
sixth is the Funk Fest the Clues Hall, which will
feature confunction midnight star lakeside Al Husson in one way,

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you know acts from the eighties that when I first
moved here were you know, big and influenced me in
college as well as in the eighties. All hosted by
Doudie Fresh at that Clues Hall. And then on Saturday
the Comedy Show which I first my first real promoting
gig was in comedy and so we have the classic
Comedy Jam on that Saturday, September twenty seventh. And with
that show d Ray Davis, Earthquake, Amber James and Tony

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Tony Roberts. So you might have checked that show. It's
gonna be a very funny show. Two shows, seven thirty eleven.
Tickets available right now at the Clues Hall box office
from ten to four, or for the funk Fest you
can get tickets at King Ribs and they're the sponsors
of the whole weekend King Ribs. And for tickets for
the comedy show, you can go to Barbecue. Having asked
for Ron Jones, that's my guy Jones and Boma. You
have it or al and Alf's Modern clothing. Get tickets

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for the comedy show, and the tickets are going fast
for each and we ticket starts a little with forty
nine dollars for those county show. So looking forward to
seeing everyone there. And and again we're just gonna let's
have fun.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Yes, that's that's what it's all about. And hey, before
you go, we wanted to give flowers to another one.
Uh kind of bittersweet yeah better, bittersweet.

Speaker 15 (01:17:25):
Better and sweet for me, I've been hearing that for
the last world week since since.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Saturday, our very own at least run another Dare to
Radio one indie promotion.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Get Some of the guys would go be we boy
that we go show. Glad they got they got it.
They out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Boy he's going away, but he's not leaving.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
Yah. But man, I mean I just want to say,
you know, thank you. Man. You know I was a
promotions director.

Speaker 5 (01:17:53):
I don't know if you knew that or not for
Tilca for a couple of years between the time that
when I left the Are and came over here for
like a year they had me to do a promotion
director and and I took my job very very serious
because I'm a promoter and so to to to work
with David and the and and to see the hard work.
And I mean, it's just it's so much work. I mean,

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you know, it's just it's so the work. It's just
sometimes you're up at six in the morning. You don't
get to bed to two in the morning. You know,
stuff that you and then and so I really appreciate
him and looking out for me. And you know, some
promotion directors that you know, they're just some divas.

Speaker 12 (01:18:29):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
I read a couple of the you know, devas. They
come in they demand this stuff. I'm like, you hold on,
I'm a climb.

Speaker 7 (01:18:35):
I pay you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
But this guy right here, you know, he's he's a
real one, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:18:39):
And and and Columbus is a blessed that to make
sure you know you call me you got any problems Columbus,
I got I got friends of Columbus.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
Let me know.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
Yeah, I got friends of Columbus. But I appreciate you man.
And and I'm I just hope whoever they got you,
you know, they let him, they let you teach him
or do something because because dog going and you know,
they're gonna have to do what David did.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
That's all gonna say. I'm gonna say, what is what
David did? David, David did it. That's gonna come up
a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Retired, you're probably doing stuff already because Geno and I
were talking about every business. Every every time in this
business we go somewhere to start a new position, we're
baptized by fire, kind of have to hit the ground running.
There is no oh, we're gonna get your trained and
get through. No, you go right away, You push the
button and go.

Speaker 16 (01:19:27):
You know, And Gino, you've been around radio for years.
You know it's pretty much the same right wherever you go.
It's just learning where you are and the people there.
So you know, I'm gonna love being around those Ohio
State fans in my Michigan gear. Everybody knows me know
I talk major stuff, so you know that's not gonna change.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
But we gotta let everybody know we've been talking.

Speaker 10 (01:19:53):
Like we know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
But David, can you share your news with you?

Speaker 29 (01:19:56):
So?

Speaker 16 (01:19:57):
I was blessed get promotion, Dad. Everybody's been trying to
get me a cry ad. I'm gonna cry. I've been
blessed get a promotion that is moving me to Columbus
starting on Tuesday. But I'll be back here, I told
him today. With our company, yep, I'm still with Radio One,
but you know it's a great opportunity. It's closer though

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to Detroit, which is you know, a blessing for me.
But you know, I'm still gonna be around. And I
already told him, like, if you see me, I'm not working,
I'm there to visit.

Speaker 15 (01:20:30):
I'm there to wave.

Speaker 16 (01:20:31):
I might hop up on the float during during the
class grade and no, i might pop up at GINO show.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
So I'll be around.

Speaker 15 (01:20:38):
So it's not like I'm leaving, but you know, just
onto a new chapter.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
We we work closely with Columbus a lot too. I
mean when he's back and forth, you know, we're in
contact with them on the regular. So and you know,
place though our.

Speaker 16 (01:20:51):
General manager Andrew care as I say, gager, but you
know it for the for those of us that have
been around the company, No, nothing happens fast around here,
and usually there's a bunch of people involved, right, So
this wasn't something that you know, it was a secret.
There was a few people that were involved. We just

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couldn't really say a lot. But I think work came
out maybe about a week ago.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
What was going on?

Speaker 15 (01:21:19):
But yeah, you know, I love being here, but I
love a new a new chapter.

Speaker 16 (01:21:25):
And you know, the one thing that with radio and
with media that's consistent is changed, right, you know, nothing
stays the same. And even listening to the gym and
they called from Chicago talking about Brian Wallace. I know
Brian because when I was in Detroit. Brian worked with
us in Detroit for some time. Oh wow, you know
everybody kind of goes around everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
Oh yeah, well, like my mom.

Speaker 16 (01:21:50):
Says, with us, it's more like three right, so everybody
knows everybody. So you know, like with anything, I'll be back.
I'm sure sure that you'll see me around and I'll
be in town and I'm not gone yet, but yeah,
I'm moving to.

Speaker 15 (01:22:07):
Our Columbus market.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
So when's your start date?

Speaker 15 (01:22:11):
Tuesday September seven?

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
So in terms of everything that you've handled here, how well,
we'll talk about that later.

Speaker 12 (01:22:19):
Bit.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
I just I just need to seriously, I need need
to designate. David has always been kind enough to come in,
uh you know, periodically at least once a month, sometimes
more than that, and he would always give us a
rundown of what was going on in our group, in
our station group, as well as the food and meal distributions,
which he single handedly got going over there with the

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Urban League. I know, the volunteer staff just grew and
grew and grew, but David was the one behind that.
And I mean, David, you were over there in all
kinds of weather, hot and cold, you know, dry and wet.

Speaker 19 (01:22:53):
I feel like I've worked for the post Office, and.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
He would always come in to our show and share
and it was invaluable. And like I said, it was
at least once a month, maybe, like I said, probably
more than that. And our listeners even got to know him.
They got to know his story about his family and politics.
Well what does David think? And you know, I would
ask David to come in to talk about promotions, and
invariably we would always get off into current events and

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different things like that. So we're gonna miss that, but
we'll find out who the next person might be that
that might want to come in and do David, And
you know.

Speaker 16 (01:23:29):
My phone number isn't changing, so you can always call me. Look,
I'm sure I'll need a break over there at some point.
I'll sneak in my art one. And that's the other
good thing. I have an office by myself. I can
close the door and I can lock it. Yeah, and
you know, play Hell to the Victor loudly on the
speakers in the office and drive everybody else crazy. But
you know, if you need me to call in, look,

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I'm around you again, you know, and especially with Radio one.
And this has come from somebody who's been with the
company seventeen years, which is scary to think going on eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
Good see, don't the years end up really quickly? You know,
we were talking about forty here. They basically twenty for you,
and you, you know, you just it seems like you
just got going. I remember the first first time I
met David. We were it was the It wasn't the
Classic Parade. I think it was the eighty five hundred

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Parade because it was in May, because both of us
started in May. I think you started maybe three or
four days after I did, or I started five days after.
But anyway, we were in that same realm. And so
I was asking when somebody said, you got to meet
up with David to do X, Y and Z, because
we were on a stay and I said, who's David,
And the promotions assistant said, well, just look for the
guy that looks like Barack Obama. You'll go day. And

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I said, what she said, you'll know, You'll know, just
look at just look around and sure now if here
comes about a six foot two what six guys slender
bille looking to you know, slightly green baracc Obama. And
I said, okay, so last David, but very quickly, David,
we all have been talking about our starts and our

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journeys and how we continue in the business. How did
you get started and this is something you always wanted
to do so well.

Speaker 16 (01:25:13):
So my degree is in broadcast journalism and TV from
Southern University, a school that I love to the core.
And when I was getting my masters, I worked as
a reporter on our school show. And I'll never forget.
I was in the gas station by my house was

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the weekend, like any other college student. I got it on,
sweatpants and I'm just looking bunky, like I just ran
to the story to get something run home, and this
guy walked up to me.

Speaker 15 (01:25:42):
He says, I know you, and I'm looking at.

Speaker 16 (01:25:43):
Him like I've never seen you before in my life,
and I'm like, no, I think you're mistaken.

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
Oh no, no, no, I know.

Speaker 16 (01:25:48):
You're the guy on TV. And I said, oh, that's it.
I said, that's it for that, like it just random
people come up. I was like that that's not going
to work. So fast forward when when I graduated from
grad school. I actually moved from Baton Rouge July one
of two thousand and five, literally six weeks before Katrina hit.

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And you know, between that and I used to tell
people I went to school twenty years straight, just NonStop.
So when I graduated, I was like, I'm take some
time off. And I took some time off, and finally
after a couple months, my parents were like, all right,
you need a job like you got.

Speaker 15 (01:26:29):
You can't just sit around the house all day.

Speaker 16 (01:26:31):
And there was a commercial I saw and it was like, hey,
do you like to drive the hottest cars and be
at the hottest events? And I was like, Eh, that
sounds like me. And it was like, well, come and
try out for the Chevy Street Team. And at the time,
my cousin worked for the Federal Reserve Bank in Detroit.
And if you don't know what the Federal Reserve Bank is,

(01:26:53):
it's essentially the Bank for Banks, and I went into
this you know, top tip top secure facility that I've
never seen anything like it in my life, took tests,
went through a grueling three hour interview, and I was
waiting to hear back from them, and I get a
call from the Chevy people and they're like, hey, you know,

(01:27:15):
we had we have you down on our list. We
really want you to come. And I said, okay, well,
you know, I'll come, and I win did that and
it was certain things that we did and everything we did,
I just kind of knocked out the part. And I
remember that day I got home. My mom was like, well,
how did it go?

Speaker 15 (01:27:31):
And I was like, I don't know. It was probably
about two hundred people there. I was like, I have
no clue how it went.

Speaker 16 (01:27:37):
And that day I got a letter from the Federal
Reserve Bank basically saying, hey, we love you. Was your
a little overqualified for this position. So I was like okay,
And then next thing I know, I started doing the Chevy. Well,
the team that I worked on worked with Hot one
O two seven, which is what it was at the

(01:27:57):
time in Detroit, and so essentially we brought the car
to the events so people could get in and the
idea is brilliant, especially after somebody who's bought two cars
in six weeks. You know, most people want to be
able to look at a car, but they don't want
to feel like they're being pressured into buying it. So
the best way to do is just take it to
where people are and letting them look at it. So

(01:28:18):
after about a month I ended up managing the team.
Then the owner was like, hey, we really want you
to travel around do auto shows, and so I was like, hmm,
I don't know. And I talked to a good friend
my dad, who worked auto shows for years. He said, look,
if somebody's going to give you the opportunity to travel
on their dime to see places that you're never going

(01:28:40):
to see and get paid for it, take it. So
I spent two years traveling around doing auto shows and
stuff like that, being a cute guy and the suit
next to the cars. And after two years and some
things with the owner, the company ended up shutting down.
So I didn't I didn't have a job. I didn't
know what I was going to do. And maybe in May,

(01:29:01):
so this is January. So in May I got a
phone call from the guy from the promotions director at
the station.

Speaker 15 (01:29:06):
He was like, look, we have a position.

Speaker 16 (01:29:08):
I understand, you know, it's a little beneath where you are,
but it'll get your foot in the door and you
can work and all that. And so I was like,
you know, I'm never I'm always up for a challenge.
I'm never too big for any job or anything like that.
And within three months the promotions directors got to let go.
The marketing director left and essentially it was me and

(01:29:29):
one other person running the department. And that's kind of
how I just took everything on. And you know, a
year after I started. Some of you may know Wendy
cyrus Herndon, who was our regional marketing director. But when
he came in a year after I started, and we
worked hand in hand for a decade, it's scary to
say it's a decade, you know, and she's based there,

(01:29:50):
and I was telling Kim, the general manager there, you know,
I've known Wendy so long. Her youngest son, who's in
college now, literally almost came up to my knee, you
know what I mean, like he was a little little
and it happened. So you know, from that, I did
that for ten years and We had all types of
crazy times and stories.

Speaker 15 (01:30:11):
Some of them I tell my staff, some of my
I can't tell staff.

Speaker 16 (01:30:15):
But then the opportunity came up here and I'll never
forget I they asked me to come down and help.
That's allays. They're like, they just needed to come go
down there and help. So I came down and I'm
at Karen and everybody, And the end of that week,
they were like, we want you come back, and I'm like,
in a way, I'm moving to Indianapolis. I've met when
I came to help was the first time I've ever

(01:30:36):
been to Indianapolis.

Speaker 15 (01:30:37):
And I'm like, ain't no way. And I'll say two
months later.

Speaker 16 (01:30:43):
I was here the next month because that was April
week my birthday, so it was April twenty first, and
the week of the race was officially my first week
of the.

Speaker 15 (01:30:52):
Job, right, Oh listen. And when I first got here,
we're sitting in the meeting.

Speaker 16 (01:31:00):
I remember They're and there talking about carb Day and
carb nic They're talking about snake pitting all this stuff,
and I'm just sitting there shaking my head and I'm
like okay, and not knowing.

Speaker 15 (01:31:10):
A clue what they were talking about.

Speaker 16 (01:31:11):
And I remember I grabbed somebody after meeting, like, Okay,
you gotta explain all this to me because I don't
get it. But you know, and yeah, it is baptism
by fire, but you know what they know who can
handle stuff like that, And that's the tell. If you
can make it through that, then you know you're good.
If not, then you know you're gonna have to do
something picking up. And so I went back to Detroit

(01:31:33):
for a week because that was when Tom was doing
the tour and we had a show on Detroit with Tom,
and I did that show, came back that following week,
so June third was my official first day.

Speaker 15 (01:31:46):
On June tenth, they had a meeting in Detroit that.

Speaker 16 (01:31:49):
I knew about because I'm on all the emails and stuff.
And they met at ten am, so I was like,
somebody's gonna hit me up and just let me know
what's going on. And at tenth I got a text
that they sold stations in Detroit and it was just like,
you know, I never understood why, but you know, God
will let you know, and God push you where where

(01:32:09):
he wants you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
Wow, wow, geno, have we heard some powerful stuff?

Speaker 7 (01:32:14):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Oh listen powerful powerful. But yeah, David, we couldn't be
happier for you though, because, like you know, one of
the things that was said in the conversation, I don't
know if it was, Oh it was. It was another
one of Geno's colleagues, veteran DJ about how this business
just kind of gets in you. It just inn filtrates.

(01:32:35):
Oh yeah, and it gets in you. But you're right,
people can look and know. And I used to run
an internship program at at one point in time, and
the minute and you know, when you start talking to you,
you just know if they haven't and if I may
without y'all will understand what I'm saying. But I don't
want people to misunderstand what I'm saying. But in order
to survive in this business, you have to be just

(01:32:57):
a little bit a little bit off. I don't want
to say off crazy, not crazy, but yeah, but no,
you do because you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
You have to have to edge.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
Yeah, edge, because if an intern asked me what time
do I get off or what time is my lunch,
I'm like, y'all not going to make it, go make
it because you know you to see y'all laughing because
you know I'm telling the absolutely. It's like, if that's
your mindset and that's your mentality, this.

Speaker 14 (01:33:24):
Is not for you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
But that's the young people nowadays.

Speaker 7 (01:33:28):
Though.

Speaker 5 (01:33:29):
That is tough because they are because my daughter is
like thirty four and she's like, Dad, if I'm not
if I give a job, they don't want to make
me see you in a year and a half, I
don't want to be it.

Speaker 16 (01:33:37):
Yeah, but yes, I they think it is absolutely And
you know, I don't do that a lot with my
staff because my staff is mostly younger and so I,
you know, I tried to explain to them that you
got to put some work in.

Speaker 15 (01:33:51):
Yeah, and when it's your time, you're it's your time.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
And we had Geno and I have kids the same age,
and uh, they're young adults now. But you know, as
far as coming up and teaching them and instilling work ethics,
you know, you have to keep repeating and go against
the grain of what their peers and their culture is
telling them, because it's like, hey, you just sometimes you
just have to do it. Sometimes you're not going to
get paid for that extra fifteen minutes of over sometimes

(01:34:17):
just put it in. That's an investment and the investment
will return itself to you. But if you can't realize that,
and you don't have the vision to be able to
see that or the patience to understand that. I mean, Gene,
what'd you talk about? Your first job?

Speaker 4 (01:34:29):
You made?

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
What eight thousand dollars is?

Speaker 4 (01:34:31):
Eight thousand?

Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
I moved from India from Kalamazoo, Michigan and Andyauta for
eight thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Yeah, yeah, and I my first job, I think it
was like fifteen thousand dollars a year, but I knew.
But here's the thing. You have to know with each
move you make and even within that, you're going to
get more and more. But if you're not willing to
accept this level to get to the next level, then
you know, maybe the business just is in a lot
of ways that's how it used to be. But you

(01:34:57):
know who was in there. I mean kids that work
at McDonald's or Whitecastle or wherever a crew car wash
they make more than fifteen thousand dollars a year. But
you're talking about a college trained professional willing to accept
a certain amount just to get to the next amount.
You know, the Stairstep concept is a little bit gone
in some search. It's just gone a little bit.

Speaker 16 (01:35:19):
Well, and you know, especially coming from from Detroit, I've
seen people who I worked with that started as an intern,
an unpaid intern.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:35:32):
You go from being an unpaid intern to a midday host,
to a correspondent for a national network to a host
on a national network show. Right, And they weren't getting
paid at first. And it's like now kids act like
if they don't get a checked then it doesn't matter.

(01:35:53):
And you know, one thing I told one of our
new people, I said, you know, I never back down
from learning how to do something, because to me, that's
just another thing you add to your resume because you
can say, oh, well I've done contracts and I've done this,
and I've done.

Speaker 14 (01:36:09):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Our current general manager is a case in point. What
did she start out here years ago as an unpaid volunteer,
an unpaid volunteer. Now she's a VP and general manager. Wow?

Speaker 19 (01:36:21):
Yeah, I thought she was like an inter.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Yeah, she didn't even get the internship. But first I
understand she was an unpaid volunteer. Then she got the
internship because she had wanted to do it, but not
the progression. But but be that as it made though,
you guys, I am so happy for both of you.
I'm gonna miss you David tremendously uh and Gino. I'm

(01:36:46):
going to continue to applaud you because you just keep
doing it.

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Praise God, God.

Speaker 7 (01:36:54):
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Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
And we're back with Community Connection. As we were saying earlier,
tomorrow is the twentieth anniversary of Hurricane Katrina. Since we
will not be here live on the anniversary, I wanted
to share a quick look back from CBS News. Take
a listen.

Speaker 25 (01:46:11):
It is sometimes hard to believe, but this week marks
twenty years since Hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast. Nearly
fourteen hundred people died, most of them in New Orleans.
It is the costliest hurricane in US history, and today
some communities are still struggling to recover.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
CBS is.

Speaker 25 (01:46:27):
Katie Weiss is in Theodore, Alabama, tonight and has the
very latest Katie, Good Evening, Good.

Speaker 26 (01:46:34):
Evening, Jureka. Katrina was terrifying, to say the least. I
wrote out the storm here and I'll never forget the flooding.
But just down the road, hundreds of homes were washed away,
as well as the land on which they stood. Dolphin Island, Alabama.
Mayor Jeff call, You're never imagined storms would batter this
islands so hard.

Speaker 16 (01:46:56):
This area in here is where most of those underwater
a lot currently are.

Speaker 15 (01:47:01):
And yeah, there's at least fifty or sixty right instructure.

Speaker 26 (01:47:07):
Since Hurricane Katrina, the town has rebuilt some beaches.

Speaker 27 (01:47:10):
We have pushed the waters back some three hundred and
fifty to four hundred feet south of where it was originally,
but on a barrier island.

Speaker 26 (01:47:19):
Constant maintenance is critical to preserve what is left. It
will take millions of dollars from several grant resources.

Speaker 15 (01:47:27):
The biggest challenge is probably funding.

Speaker 26 (01:47:30):
One piece of the puzzle comes from FEMA, a grant
for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Mayor Collier says,
to create a specialized disaster mitigation plan. Derrek Kieberd oversaw
that FEMA grant program, called BRICK or Building Resilient Infrastructure
and Communities.

Speaker 37 (01:47:45):
It included investments in state planning and capacity building and
building codes, such as two million dollars in Alabama to
support statewide building code implementation costs. It was going to
protect thirty one hundred homes in businesses, removing them from
the FEMA designated Blood Plan and reducing risk in that caunity.

Speaker 26 (01:48:00):
Against his wishes, FEMA canceled the program in April, calling
it wasteful and ineffective. In his second April announcement, FEMA
said the program resulted in a lack of concrete results.
Heberd quit his FEMA job two months later. FEMA data
shows the cut impacted nearly seven hundred projects at the
cost of three point six billion dollars. Mayor Collier says

(01:48:24):
he's not heard any word about next steps.

Speaker 15 (01:48:27):
We're kind of in a limbo situation right now, waiting
to see what comes.

Speaker 26 (01:48:30):
Out of that time, something Dolphin Island cannot afford. Even
without a major hurricane, the beach will keep washing away.
Now We've reached out to FEMA for a comment, but
so far if we've not heard back, Jarika.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Katie Weiss, thank you, okay, And as we were saying,
I'm sure you're going to hear a lot more tomorrow
on the actual anniversary, the twenty year anniversary, David. We
were talking.

Speaker 19 (01:48:57):
David.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
Of course your family is from that area that there
were projections early on that it could take up to
fifty years for New Orleans to recover from the effects
of Hurricane Katrina. And you said, you don't have a
problem with that number.

Speaker 16 (01:49:13):
No, And you know, as somebody who has definitely been
there a number of times pre Katrina and a number
of times post Katrina, you know it's now it's a
totally different place than it was twenty years ago. When
I'll even say twenty one years ago. A lot of

(01:49:34):
the places that were there then, you know, are completely gone.
There's new developments, there's places that literally haven't been touched since,
so you know, it's it's a different place, and it's
you know, knowing what it was before and being able
to see those differences. It is striking and a big

(01:49:57):
part of it because a lot of the places that
I that I Newton saw were where most of the
black people live, and a lot of those places are
they just don't exist. They weren't replaced or anything, they
just aren't there anymore. But you know it it's eerie

(01:50:17):
hearing that my Like I was saying, I graduated I
don't remember the day, but it was in May of
twenty two thousand and five from grad school and the
speaker for our commencement was General Honore.

Speaker 7 (01:50:34):
Oh.

Speaker 16 (01:50:35):
General Honore, who was an alumni Southern was the commencement speaker.
And I remember my dad was like, I know him
because I went to school with his sister. Because you know,
everybody's related to everybody, and everybody knows everybody again three
degrees of separation. So you know, when I moved home
and everything happened and they sent General Andre there, I
was like, he literally spoke to us a couple of

(01:50:56):
months ago, and I want to say at the time
he was like the highest ranking black general that was
in the army. But you know, I actually just saw
a video yesterday that was showing the levee where showing
the part of the levee where it broke and how
it's totally rebuilt and all that, and you know it.

(01:51:18):
I think that they built it back stronger. I have
my own ideas of kind of what happened during Katrina,
because I don't think that it was all you know,
the hurricane and the storm surge and all that.

Speaker 15 (01:51:29):
I think that there were.

Speaker 16 (01:51:30):
Other factors involved with with why what happened happened, so
you know, it's rebuilt. I would never say never the
one thing that I tell people now and I told
people then because the number one question I had from everybody,
especially people you know, from Detroit, because they don't understand.

(01:51:51):
You have no concept of hurricanes or anything like that,
living mostly in the Midwest, and it was always, well,
why didn't they leave? They could just left, and it's like,
you don't understand that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:03):
Every year.

Speaker 15 (01:52:03):
So I lived in Bandon Rouge.

Speaker 16 (01:52:05):
I'm not gonna say when I got down there, and
I'm sure I said when I have left, so you
could do the Dutch reasoning. But I was down there
for seven years and we probably had at least fourteen
hurricane really days. Yeah, and you know, they see it's
a possibility, they cancel classes, they tell everybody to get

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out of town, and not once like sometimes it rained
and most time nothing would happen.

Speaker 15 (01:52:34):
It'd be bright and sunny.

Speaker 16 (01:52:35):
I'll never forget my dad called me and we were
offered a hurricane and he was like, oh, what's the
weather like. And I was like, oh, it's fine. I'm
standing outside right now, it's sunny. He was like, get
back in the house. You could be in the eye
of the hurricane. I said, it is not rained one
drop in the past two days. Like, we're fine, right,
So you know it's the boy that cries wolf.

Speaker 33 (01:52:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:52:56):
So you know, they tell you it's coming and you
pack up everything, you leave, nothing happens, and you waste days,
you waste money and all this. So after it happened
so many times, you just don't expect it to come
until it actually does.

Speaker 3 (01:53:08):
Yeah, And we heard about that dynamic as well. So
oh yeah, yeah, there were a lot of people that
there were some folks in our church who Hurricane Katrina
forced him up here. And those stories are just they're
numerous all over the country. But anyway, that is about
all of the time we have for right now. I

(01:53:30):
was going to share very quickly. I don't know if
we have time for that audio. But we were on
the brink of history possibly and didn't know it. This
is Thursday. We usually have sports with Danny Bridges on Thursday.
He doesn't really follow the w NBA. Oh we do, okay,
he doesn't really follow the WNBA too often or too much.
And I kind of ribbed him about it a little bit.

(01:53:50):
But don Staley became very close to becoming the next
head coach of the NBA's New York Knicks, and she
talked about it a short time ago briefly on a
podcast with the Candace Parker and her former center Aleiah Boston.
Now with the Fever, So let's take a listen to
what Donnie, So.

Speaker 17 (01:54:09):
Would you ever seriously take an NBA job?

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
What I seriously?

Speaker 36 (01:54:16):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
I I interview for the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (01:54:19):
I did.

Speaker 38 (01:54:20):
It was it was the same interview that everybody else
that was in their candidate pool, same thing women. Yeah,
I mean it was like I was in an interview.
I thought I did pretty well. I was well prepared
for the interview. Right if the Knicks would have offered
me the job. I would have had to do it. Okay,

(01:54:43):
not just for me, it's for women, for just a
break open at that, I would have had to en
it's the New York Knicks and I'm from Philly, but
it's the freaking New York Knicks. And I did say
that in an interview, like it's the I said, I said,
I actually said it, y'all, don't have to send you Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
I don't know if we caught that, but but what
she was basically saying, I mean, first of all, the
revelation that she because there was a lot of talk
and everybody's like, no, she's not interviewed now, they're not
talking to her. No, they're not thinking about she said
right there in that podcast, Yeah, I got an interview.
They you know, I was a candidate. But she also

(01:55:23):
said that she thinks that she may have disqualified herself. Well,
you know, she said it a little bit later because
she asked the organization, are you prepared to have the
first woman in the NBA, the first female head coach
in the NBA? You have do you have things in place?
Are you ready for what you're about to do or
what you're thinking of doing? And she said, when I

(01:55:44):
put that before them, that may have lost the job
for me. But it's gonna happen sooner or later. So
and people wonder why I talk about her so much.
She's just an exemplary example. She's won how many championships
national three three in South Carolina University of South Carolina
in a short amount of time and just you know,

(01:56:05):
basically she's a WNBA machine because she's kicking them out
to the league like crazy, and they're all doing well.
But I admire her for being honest about it. She
wasn't cag And congratulations to her for even being a candidate.
So David, congratulations to you again. We'll be talking with
you soon. That is all the time we have for
community connection right now. Again, another quick programming reminder. Our

(01:56:30):
offices are closing early tomorrow and we are off Monday
for Labor Day. So our next live show is coming
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you live on Tuesday. For everyone here, I'm Tina Cosby
and this is community connection. So long, David

Speaker 4 (01:57:02):
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