Community Connection August 5th, 2025

Community Connection Tuesday August 5th, 2025. Join Tina Cosby as we have "Open Lines", speaking with Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Mears about all of today’s pressing topics with our esteemed listeners! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
And good afternoon, and welcome to Community Connection. I'm Tina Cosby.
Today is Tuesday, August the fifth. Three one seven four
eight zero thirteen ten three one seven four eight zero
thirteen ten is the number to the show. And on
the show today, Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Meers is going
to be joining us. He's got a community outreach program,

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a community outreach event, but we're going to talk to
him or talk with him about that and uh and
a little more. As always whenever we have prosecuted Mears,
Prosecutor Mirrors is going to be with us in our
second hour, So he's coming up in our second hour,
hour number two at two o'clock. Mary County Prosecutor Ryan Mears.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Also today.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Your chance to win free State Fair tickets as well
as a pair of reserved seats reserve seats tickets to
the Gospel Music Festival at the Indiana State Fair. Sometimes
they call it Gospel Day, but anyways, the Gospel Music
Festival at the State Fair featuring the headlineer none other
than the Great Marvin Sap, that's taking place Sunday, August

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seventeenth at three pm. It'll be out there at the
State Fairgrounds, of course, on the Hoosier Lottery Free Stage
at the Fair. So stay tuned for your chance to
win both fair tickets and reserve seats for the Gospel
Music Festival featuring gospel Great Marvin Sap. And speaking of

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the State Fair, I thought and again our number if
you want to call him weigh in on this year,
more than welcome to a lot of folks will have
an opinion. But three one seven four eight zero thirteen
ten three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
The State Fair tightened last year.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
You may recall that they had tightened up their unaccompanied
minor admission policy, really really had tightened it up.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
And as we were briefly discussing yesterday the fight that
erupted between a number of teenagers taking place down there
on the Fair midway on Saturday this past Saturday afternoon
early evening.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
It was ugly.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
And it was kids fighting each other. They weren't necessarily
attacking any of the fairgoers, but you know a number
of the fairgoers were certainly and noticeably upset as a result.
Now that fight has prompted the State Fair to tighten
up even more, even more it it's unaccompanied miners policy.

(03:03):
Now I'm going to tell you it's going to get
to the point where well, anyway, that's what I'll tell
you afterwards. So here's a summary of what's on the
Indiana State Fair website to explain why they tightened things
up because they yesterday was a closed They're always closed
on Monday, so yesterday was the day when the fair
was not open. It's opening today and this new policy

(03:27):
goes into effect. So the State Fair is making it
even harder for unaccompanied miners to get into the fair
on their own.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
You're not you know, last year, they made.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
It hard this year and today, as of today, they
made it even more difficult. Now again, there was there
was a fight the midway Saturday youngsters, unaccompanied teenagers.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
And here's what they said.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Safety is the top priority at the Indiana State Fair.
We are committed to creating a safe, welcoming, and enjoyable
experience for all visitors. State Fair management reserves the right
to refuse admission or eject any person violating facility, local, state,
or federal laws, or whose conduct is deemed illegal, disorderly,

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or offensive. The safety and security of fair goers remains
a priority at the Indiana State Fair. With this standard
of uncompromised safety in mind, Indiana State Fair officials are
introducing this enhancement to existing protocols here. It is Unaccompanied

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Minor Policy, updated at eight five of twenty twenty five.
Just today, I do believe for today's opening fairgoers under
the age of eighteen must be accompanied by a parent,
legal guardian or chaperone who is aged twenty five or older.
Now that's up from age twenty one or older as

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recently as last year. So now you have to be
twenty five or older to be able to take someone
under the age of eighteen into the fair, and you
got to show it. The enhancements will be in four
starting at six pm daily, starting at six pm on
Tuesday through Thursday, and starting at four pm daily on

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Friday through Sunday. So again six pm daily Tuesday through Thursday,
four pm daily Friday through Sunday. Each adult may chaperone
only up to four individuals and must remain at the
fair grounds while the miners they are chaperoning are still present.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
So let me tell you that again.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Each adult may chaperone only up to four individuals and
must remain at the fair grounds while the miners are
chaperoning that they are chaperoning are still present. You got
to stay there if you okay. So say, for instance,
you got somebody twenty five or older and they say here,
go on into the fair and then they leave.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
That's no longer allowed.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I don't know how they're going to enforce it, but
it looks like they're going to try. Any miners under
the age of eighteen not accompanied by an adult will
not be admitted. Any person entering may be asked to
show a valid driver's license, state identification card, or other
government issued ID. The new Enhanced State Fair Unaccompanied Miners

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policy does not apply to organized and ticketed group outings
or those participating in competitions where existing chaperone procedures are
in place. What's more, the new Enhanced Miners guidelines go
into effect immediately meaning today three one seven four eight
zero thirteen ten. Three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten.

(06:51):
What are your thoughts on the state fair, tightening up,
tightening up unaccompanied miners admission pro to call? What are
your thoughts three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten, Cameron,
Some of my thoughts are you know, you know, it's
going to get to the point where it feels some

(07:13):
you know, I hate to say it, but it may
get to the point where, you know, certain folks just
aren't going to be allowed to the bear and I
don't I don't want to see that. But black unfortunately,
unfortunately black yes, unfortunately the uh everyone, And I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Did you see in that video? I looked at it
several times.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
I did displeasure.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I had the displeasure of seeing it too. And I
say that with no you know, but we got to
start facing facts. These kids that were hitting on each
other and beating up each other. It wasn't a black
child beating up a white child or a white child
beating up a black child.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
These are black kids going at each other. Pardon it
starts at home.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
You would think, you would think, and I guess I'm
trying to understand why do these kids have to go
to such public places to Uh, you're supposed to have
fun downtown, You're supposed to have fun uh at the
at the State Fair. I don't understand what what it's

(08:20):
going to take to stop this. You all, we've we've talked,
we've talked to programs, we've talked to mentorships, we've talked
to you know, we we've talked all the way, you know,
through and around the subject at hand, and yet and
still these eruptions continue. Uh in broad daylight, didn't have
to be midnight, didn't have to be day the film,
the film excuse me, We'll go to the film film

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at eleven, No the video.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Uh, the videos in the middle of the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
And so what are people supposed to think and what
are people supposed to do? And that's what my concern
is is, is this is this behavior eventually going to
shut down the fair for some of them? I don't know,
but you heard in their statement they reserve the right
to refuse anybody.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
So I mean, is it going to be racial profile,
is it going to be what? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Maybe on the other hand, maybe with even stricter policies they'll,
you know, guard against dust ups that happened last Saturday.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I don't know. Maybe it will, maybe it won't.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Your thoughts, I mean, you know, somebody explained to me
or give me your thoughts, because I've got I've got
thoughts on all sides of the issue, I really really do,
and to me perfectly honest. This is not probably the
first time that there's been disturbances at the fair. I
think that there have been issues with juveniles at the
fair before, which is why they put in that strict

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unaccompanied minor policy that they're now tightening up even more. So,
you know, what do you think three one seven four
eight zero thirteen ten Three one seven four eight zero
thirteen ten Shering, go ahead, how are you?

Speaker 6 (10:02):
I think it's needed, and I think it's necessary.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
It's gonna it's gonna.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Force the young adults you either come in and act.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
As if you have some sense, or the adults of
the parents.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
And I do agree with them increasing that age to
twenty five. As a chaperone years old, you don't know
their mental state. They may be on the same level
as the youngster sixteen to eighteen year old, So I
do agree with that, But I mean it's a necessary evil.
So that means your child is gonna have to get
linked up with some type of organizations that's gonna help

(10:36):
improve their mannerisms or conflict resolutions, like certain churches or
certain these a lot of these community groups that are
receiving a lot of this rent money. You're gonna have
to join that in order to come in and go
to the fair. Now, the flip side to that is, yeah,
the fair's pocket book. How much money are you now

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going to turn away?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I I don't know that, Yeah that I I don't know, Sherry.
You know, the dollar is always a you know, great equalizer.
You're right, it would. But I guess I wonder you know,
each year or every other year, they're tightening it up
more and more.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Where are we going with this? Where is this gonna go?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Because it has something has to give at some point
in time, something has to give, and the dollar what
you're talking about. I I don't that's a good point,
you know, But do you think that there's that many
dollars coming in with unaccompanied minors?

Speaker 8 (11:33):
I do I do.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
After a certain after a certain after a certain hour
at the fair, when you go after a certain time,
you're seeing nothing but young adults there. I mean, I mean,
they they have, they have spending and buying power. But
it's just they just need to learn how to conduct
themselves and act like they have some sense. Now, I
just I mean, and I'm not I just can't blame
it all on the on the young people. But when

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you're in public, there's a certain way you're supposed to
conduct yourself. You know, Just why is fighting the only option?

Speaker 9 (12:03):
Why?

Speaker 6 (12:03):
Exactly why is the first thing that we're turning to
is fighting and violence?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, and we still don't know what role, if any,
social media played in that, you know, But yeah, and
that's the wild wild West.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Social media is the wild wild West. And thank you, Sherry.
Meet me at the fair where we'll be at the fair. Yeah,
there's money. The fair is expensive, Uh is very very expensive.
I just I just see you know that this trending
more and more is getting tighter and tighter and tighter.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
And yeah, of course they want to protect.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Of course they want to protect, you know, the other
fair goers, because it's not fair to fair goers. I
would not want to see that. I wouldn't want to
have to jump out of the way because some some
kids are wailing on each other.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Who would?

Speaker 10 (12:51):
Who would?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
So anyway, let's go back to the phone lines.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
The number three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten
three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Here's the issue.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
The Indiana State Fair, as of today has issued newer,
stricter unaccompanied minor guidelines. And hey, it's it's getting there.
So let's go to the next caller. Sam, Go ahead, Sam,
are you there?

Speaker 11 (13:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (13:19):
I am here.

Speaker 13 (13:20):
The only thing I just be with it at the
time I think there's you start at the time the
moment's open.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah, it could be. Yeah, yeah, that's my thought.

Speaker 13 (13:31):
That's my thought on that.

Speaker 7 (13:32):
Now.

Speaker 13 (13:32):
The second thing, can I how can I become a
sponsor on your show?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Become a sponsor?

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well Sales department would be happy to talk with you.
I don't sell sponsorships, but if you want, I can
you know you can, Cameron can give you the you know,
the numbers of the to our GM or our sales role. Yeah, well,
what what what product are you? Are you wanting to
sponsor with Well Camera.

Speaker 14 (14:02):
Before they gave you a website last week? And you
suppose have been looked at him because that web is
a solution to Indiana problem.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
I haven't I typically I never see Cameron and I
haven't heard from him yet. But I can shoot him
a text and ask him. He probably he may have
forgotten because Cameron, you know, he has he has his uh.
He has a lot of hats that he wears.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (14:26):
I know you.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
But yeah, I can check with him though.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I'd be happy to check with him and see if
he can forward that information to me.

Speaker 10 (14:32):
So, yes, may I check that out loud?

Speaker 13 (14:34):
Promise you you will see the solution of a problem
that would have in Indiana.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Okay, all right, Sam, So I'll yeah, I'll just wait
to hear from Cameron and I'll check in with him.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten. Three one
seven four eight zero thirteen ten. Your thoughts on today
the Indiana State Fair? Tightening up, I mean really locking
down and tightening up.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Their their miners their miners admissions policy, unaccompanied miners admission
to be specific. This is all in response to a
disturbing fight among teenagers took place on the midway at
the Indiana State Fair on Saturday. Next call Lee, go ahead,
how are you.

Speaker 15 (15:19):
Hello, thanks for taking my call, can you.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yes, I can hear you. Yeah, go ahead, Lee.

Speaker 15 (15:27):
I think it's a wonderful idea.

Speaker 16 (15:29):
Okay, okay, I think it's excellent and matter of fact,
I think they need the Innapolis Police Department need to
check that out and let it do it do the
same thing downtown.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well, it is the state Indiana State Fairgrounds, so maybe
they can talk with their their colleagues at the State
and and see you know, but it's the council. The
council is going to be voting the council. The council
is going to be voting on the extended hours that
they've already proposed, coming up probably a week from yesterday.

(16:02):
They're gonna next Monday, the full council is going to
vote on on the city's extended curfew proposal. And I
think it's a whole lot tougher, uh than Yeah, here's
the deal.

Speaker 15 (16:15):
We have to look at it. This is not it's
a privilege to be able to go.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
To the fair Well, absolutely, yes.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
It's not.

Speaker 15 (16:22):
It's not something that's mandatory. It's a privilege. And it's
time to start dealing with folks who don't think it's
a privilege, you know what I mean, And.

Speaker 7 (16:32):
I mean, hello, yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 17 (16:38):
You're not about to come to my company and act
like you ain't got no sense, don't.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Have any sense that's fair.

Speaker 17 (16:46):
You have to set up some type of you know,
borders or whatever, rules or regulations because this is, first
of all, it's an embarrassment. I'm an African American. Also
it's for me to see my people and my children,
my children, my you know, I mean, teenagers.

Speaker 15 (17:02):
It's a total embarrassment.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
No, it's certainly not fun to look at. I tell
you, you're right. You're right.

Speaker 17 (17:08):
Well, a little bit on the fund of social media.

Speaker 15 (17:10):
Oh my god, I could it all because I couldn't
have it.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, yeah, it's too But you know what, here's the thing, though,
we if we don't get a hold of it, we
may not I mean, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic here,
but somebody's got to get a hold of this, or
we might not be able to get our kids into
the state fair at all because they may just say, uhh,
no more. Because there there's only so much adjusting you
can do. And I certainly don't have a problem with

(17:35):
tightening up the unaccompanied minors admissions policy, changing the age
from twenty one to twenty five. Get putting a limit
on the number of people that someone twenty five or
older can bring into the fair that are not adults,
that are that are not.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Over the age of eighteen, limiting that to four.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
See, that's gonna throw But what else are you know,
what else can they do? But so here, here's my thing.
I wonder how much more of this? Well, anyway, go ahead, Lee,
I I don't disagree with the I don't disagree with
the extended curfew for downtown Indianapolis City in the police department.

(18:14):
I don't disagree with extended unaccompanied minor guidelines.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
But here's the things. What's gonna what's gonna stop it?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
What's gonna we gotta get We've got to address it,
or you know, are they gonna ruin it for everybody?

Speaker 3 (18:28):
You know, it's gonna be ruined for all the kids.
And you can't have that.

Speaker 17 (18:33):
I think it's just total insane, man, of how our
children are doing. It's just such a mass, such a
major embarrassment, man, And we gotta we have to put
something in check.

Speaker 15 (18:45):
Man, this is crazy.

Speaker 17 (18:47):
Our ancestors died for the rights to be able to
do things, and these kids are going around acting like
a part of it is they need to know about
the history of what was paid for them to be
able to do what they did.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, I believe you mean, it's not it's not
fun to watch. And I'm like you, it's it's just uh,
it's an s mh. You know, it's just shaking your head.
It's like what what what more?

Speaker 18 (19:15):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
And I just didn't like it, you know, none of
us liked it. Who would like seeing something like that?
It just doesn't seem to be just doesn't seem to
be any any awareness that this is not the thing
to do and this is not the place to do it.
There just seems to be a gear or something missing
that this. You know, we go to the fair. We
go to fair to have a good time. We don't
go to the fair to handle our beefs. You know,

(19:37):
we just don't.

Speaker 17 (19:39):
But you know, yeah, you'll know what I'm saying when
I say this. I'm like, bring the paddle back in
school and bring the butt whoopings back where you can
whoop your neighbors kids, because we need to do something
because anything else is not working.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
We need to do something everything else is not working. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I think that's everybody's sentiment. Something something we're missing. We're
missing something, we're missing something.

Speaker 17 (20:03):
I mean, if you have to you know, what about Okay,
let me ask you something. And I don't want to
always painted with a large brush for the children, you know,
for the parents. I don't want, you know, just a
large brust for the parents. And there is some wonderful
children out there, But what about some of those parents
who you get these kids, they acting that type of way,
making them go to classes with these young teenagers.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
You know, you know, basically any at all can be
put on the table. Yeah, so go ahead, you said, you're.

Speaker 17 (20:37):
Saying if they take up, if you take some of
the parents' time away, you know what I mean, take
some of the time and say, hey, you have to
do like four hours with your teenager in a class,
you know, a sort of signing that kind of stuff.
And yeah, you know, I mean, we have to do something.
This is a major epidemic.

Speaker 19 (20:57):
Seriously.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
All right, all right, Lee, I appreciate it. Thank you,
appreciate it. Appreciate it. Three one seven for eight zero
thirteen ten three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Craig, go ahead, how are you?

Speaker 20 (21:12):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Good and doing well? Thank you?

Speaker 20 (21:15):
Okay, So I just want to go back maybe like
twenty minutes from the start of the show of when
you were staying like you're curious of how all these
teenagers are probably younger than sixteen that keep on going
on to downtown and the fair Grounds want to fight.
So this is just my opinion, this is probably what

(21:37):
they think. They think that it's cool, and they think
like whoever that I see that who I'm beefing with
or having problems with at my school at Tech shortlye
Ben Davis or whatever they go to. If I see
whoever Down'm having problems with at the fair Grounds, downtown,
black as bol whatever, they probably gonna be like, it's

(22:00):
going to be on and that's not great. That's not
good to be having like that mind mentality. It's not wise.
So I'm just saying like, that's probably what they're thinking,
and we do need order where kids want to have
that mentality.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, okay, all right, appreciate your call.

Speaker 21 (22:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Craig.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten. Three one
seven four eight zero thirteen ten George, go ahead, how
are you?

Speaker 19 (22:28):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'm doing well?

Speaker 7 (22:29):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (22:29):
You doing okay?

Speaker 19 (22:31):
Yes ma'am, yes, ma'am. Yes, Nick, get ready to put
some money on your game? But I so, but I
want to call me, you know me, you know me?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Which game are you putting money on?

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Uh? We're going.

Speaker 19 (22:45):
EMAILB a little bit Dodgers and I'm a spread. I'm
a spreading around on the w NBA at night.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
So yeah, okay, Yeah, the w NBA is back in action.

Speaker 19 (22:54):
Yeah yeah at almost three grande.

Speaker 7 (22:58):
Uh.

Speaker 19 (22:58):
Michelle Mitchell got me last week and wow, just nine points.

Speaker 15 (23:03):
Yesh, Yeah, I would have had. I would to end
up a three DS. But hey, gotta keep on going.

Speaker 19 (23:08):
U coming about everybody was talking, you know, I have
people talking about the teenage problems or young adult problems.
But I saw a video last night where there was
it wasn't even thirty minutes into the fairground opening and
there was four grown fighting at the fair and oh wow,

(23:33):
there's the problem. The other problem was the people were
standing around recording and they were like, where's the police at?
Where's the police at? And everybody's like, well, the tight
over and here comes the state troopers walking up slowly,
and then another person made a comment said, well, the
state troopers are sitting over there the home town. They
weren't even trying to get over here to break up

(23:54):
the flight. So it's saying that, well, I know, we
want to just doing this teenagers doing that. Those were
two four grown men fighting with all their technology that
we have in today's society. Somebody's trying to tell me
that the state police and fairground security couldn't have cameras
up to see whether the fighting was going on or

(24:16):
where it started.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, yeah, well generally, yeah, generally, like the times that
I've been to the State Fair and you see teams
of police officers walking the grounds on the regular I
mean there's they just they just do a regular rotation around.
And so I was wondering where they were during this
this brawl between those kids, and somebody sent me a

(24:40):
you know, just an article that said it was that
wasn't their shift yet. They hadn't started their shifts yet,
So it's timing. So they're gonna, you know, they're gonna
have to figure out a little bit more in space
out some of the timing as opposed to just going
at certain hours of the fair and certain hours here
and certain hours there. I know that's a resource problem
and it's a money problem, but uh, you know, they

(25:01):
gotta they gotta be creative and figure it out.

Speaker 19 (25:05):
Yeah, that's my exact point, because I'm like, Okay, I
watched the kids fight, and I think that was an investment,
you know, to see it. And now I'm watching two
four black grown men fighting, and it took the lady
to come in here and break the men up from fighting.
I'm like, wa, in a minute, where is the brother
that how come down? I'm breaking it up. And then
all of a sudden, here comes the police state troopers

(25:26):
walking up after the was over with him. And I'm like, Okay,
you're trying to tell me as much money all the
events as the fair ground has, if they could put
a little plateau, a little thing out there at the
mall where they could sit up there and watch all
the activities going around the park at tomorrow. You're trying
to tell me you don't have cameras out there at
the fairgrounds to send fairground security and the state troopers

(25:47):
there to a particular area. And I and the same event,
like the babies crying, little teenagers fighting. I'm hearing babies
crying to give them the grown.

Speaker 20 (25:55):
Men are fighting.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, yeah, yeah, it's disturbing at any age. Yeah, disturbing
at any age.

Speaker 19 (26:02):
You made a comment, say what, we're going to get
you to point where they don't want any blacks at
the fairground during the fair time.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
I'm not trying to be hyperbolic. I can see that.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I can see that, especially the the the environment that
we're in right now. Uh, you know, the vibe that
we have right now going across the country and getting
rid of DEI basically is code for getting rid of
black foot.

Speaker 15 (26:28):
If it happens again.

Speaker 19 (26:29):
And since the parents now they're going one steps in
them because you have to be twenty five and over
in order to come in with the fairground, I'm thinking
if you go ahead and say, okay, the state fairs
growing on, we'll have.

Speaker 20 (26:40):
Just a blacks only day like they used.

Speaker 15 (26:42):
To go over it all riverside music.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
That would be segregation, although you know under this administration
that might be legal.

Speaker 22 (26:50):
You know, I grew up, I grew up at the
I grew up.

Speaker 19 (26:53):
When I was a kid, they had that blacks only
day at riverside of mutic park if they do that,
and I'll guarantee you people will be up in hot
mean like you can cook for it to be so hot. Yeah,
but if you check them and say, hey, we're gonna
put it out there and see what happened, yep.

Speaker 15 (27:12):
Change.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, that's a thought, George, that's a thought. All right. Well,
thank you for your call. I appreciate it. One, all right,
thank you?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
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Speaker 3 (27:24):
Uh, the real Deborah, go ahead? How are you?

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Hey, miss Tina?

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Hey, tace camera, Hey, everybody, Hey, hey, hey, I'm I'm I'm.

Speaker 15 (27:34):
I agree with quite a few people that call.

Speaker 23 (27:37):
But what what I know about this thing is it
was planned, and how it was planning was through social media.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
That's call what I was saying earlier, social media.

Speaker 17 (27:50):
And so what what the parents don't do?

Speaker 23 (27:53):
And I'm not saying all parents are or aren't doing it,
but you, if you love your child out and if
you are concerned about their well being, especially when they're
in a public place, check their social media status. I
don't understand how calm people are not checking that stuff.

(28:14):
I've had meetings with mayors, governor city officials, chiefs.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
It's the social media status. If you shut that down,
if you if you.

Speaker 23 (28:26):
Parental parent that right there, that will eliminate because it's
on the phone, you're you're, you're talking.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
They're they're well, you can also train, you can also
track them on the phone.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
You know where they are. And I guarantee, but of
those kids had phones.

Speaker 23 (28:42):
Kids are start enough to remove the trackers.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
They you know, we're talking about when men, me and
you as kids.

Speaker 19 (28:50):
This is some kind of mutated child we we got.

Speaker 20 (28:53):
Going on with these people.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I don't know if it's that they just utilize. It's
a different time. I'm in different uh you know, different culture. Uh,
but they're down, deep down and they're basically still the same,
just dealing with a different culture.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
The reality of.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Social media and the impact I keep calling social media
the wild wild West is there's some good that that
is done, but then some other things it's just you know,
it's just totally unregulated.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
And so when you know when our young.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
People live through that live for that live, you know
that that encompasses a whole lot and there's a uh,
we'll let it go ahead, debber, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
I want you to finish the time, So being you.

Speaker 23 (29:35):
Know, in the community and trying to help you. I'm
noticing that the behavior patterns are are are mimicking each
other through the Latinos, the the Haitians. They're starting to
sack the pants, they're starting to change the wall. They're
all mimicking the behavior of certain type of children.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
They're mimicking the culture.

Speaker 23 (30:03):
Of when I when I am around children and I
say this, I give you your respects first, and if
you don't know how to respect yourself, I'm gonna teach
you how to respect you and me. But you're not
gonna go over here, get over here with the with

(30:23):
the slapping of the lips and the past sagging and
the belt and the colors. We're not doing that today.
Now you can group up and go somewhere else with that.
But what we're trying to do here is we're trying
to extend the Houris branch and try to teach you
out a more positive way to conduct yourself, a common
sense class basically. But anyway, I think it's social.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Media, and I think that.

Speaker 23 (30:45):
Parents really really really need to hunker down and police
their children a little better.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
All right, Well, thank you, Deborah. I appreciate it. The
real Debra.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Thank you very much for your call and your input.
We've got several more callers. If you are on the phone,
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Speaker 2 (40:27):
And we're back with Community Connection three one seven four
eight zero thirteen ten three one seven four eight zero
thirteen ten phone lines are full. We need to work
through that, and so let's go back to the phone lines.
What we are talking about, UH, is the fact that
after a brawl this weekend on the midway at the
Indiana State Fair, the Indiana State Fair has tightened up
even more their unaccompanied minor policy UH and unaccompanied minor protocol.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
It's there's a lot to it, and you all are
weighing in on your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
So let's go back to let's see Paula, you're next,
go ahead, How are you, Paula?

Speaker 40 (41:06):
Are you?

Speaker 18 (41:06):
Are you there?

Speaker 6 (41:10):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Paula? Okay, Well, let's go to Vicky.

Speaker 14 (41:16):
Paula.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
If you're not there, you can call back Vicky. Go ahead,
how are you?

Speaker 41 (41:21):
Good afternoon?

Speaker 3 (41:21):
It's change up, good afternoon, and all the listing.

Speaker 41 (41:25):
Of really didn't want to make a comment. I truly
understand why the fair has to and the city of
Indianapolis has to police our children like they're doing. It's
a really, really bad situation that our children are taking
themselves to this level and its things like they're just

(41:47):
out of reach. I think more parent participation, of more
parent accountability is going to have to steal in there,
because these children are not only endangering their own lives
in danger, in the lives of others that's around them.
And it's truly not fair to the children that are
good children. It's not fair to the parents that are

(42:10):
good parents that.

Speaker 42 (42:11):
When we go out in public, everybody is looking at
us like we all crazy or something. And it's just
it's not fair to all of us that are trying
to do the right thing.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Now, yeah, it's just a few, it's just a few.
It's a precious few that make it bad. You make
a very good point. Yeah, it's not fair.

Speaker 43 (42:29):
But what.

Speaker 41 (42:32):
I don't know what gets me this year about the
fair is because number one, the children have to go
back to school so early, so they're not going to
get to the joy a lot of the fair as
it is. And for like myself, I'm a grandmother and
a great grandmother, I have learned that it is really bad.
I want to see the fair, I want to eat,

(42:54):
but I can't go and walk my grandchildren. Unfortunately their
mothers has him ed and she can't go and welcome.
But we do have a college student, very responsible, she's
twenty one, but she can't take her brothers and sisters now, no,

(43:15):
not today, she can't. That's the real unfortunate for all
of us that are doing the right thing. Pay for
these children, and a pray for these parents. I'm tired
of looking up UNTI and some young person shot some
young person.

Speaker 22 (43:31):
In a fight.

Speaker 41 (43:32):
I'm just doing more free and because God has got
to get a hand in this and he knows.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
All about it.

Speaker 41 (43:38):
But when we got everybody looking at us crazy because
of what Trump is saying, now we got our children
out there behaving like they're behaving, it just makes us
all look like we're a helpless bunch of individuals that
are just animals, and it's truly not true. I just
wanted to let Indianapolis know that I'm praying for Minnapolis

(44:02):
and our children, and I just pray to God that
things will get better. And I do thank you for
taking my phone call.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Thank you, Vicky, appreciate it. William, go ahead, how are you?

Speaker 40 (44:14):
You know?

Speaker 15 (44:15):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (44:15):
How are you?

Speaker 22 (44:17):
I am doing just saying, you know, I'm about my man.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry, you're recovering though.

Speaker 22 (44:27):
Oh yeah, that's good. I'm telling you, you know. But
what I wanted to say, I'm gonna cut it in hand.
The were we talk of the game, we talk.

Speaker 21 (44:42):
About how it takes a whole village to leave the
hill people to read one child. And let's take interest
in our young people like we used to do. YEA,
what type of what type of venues do we have

(45:04):
young people today? What type of club that are just
for the young people? Super viad, the chapel, the dust
we used to have program and the churches especially for
the young people.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
The programs are still there. It's just that the connection
is there's a disconnect. The programs are there, there's a
you know, we we just had somebody on last week
that talked about the number of programs there. There are
programs everywhere, uh, churches and what have you. But somehow
and it, you know, there's a disconnect that you know,

(45:44):
our young people aren't getting they're not getting connected with
some of these programs. But you know, I don't know,
the programs have been out there for a long time.
Uh and and uh somehow maybe they're not working for
a certain group.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
I don't know. But it's uh, it's it's it's puzzling.
It's really puzzling.

Speaker 21 (46:07):
What I'm what I'm what I'm saying.

Speaker 22 (46:10):
Cephalone and the young people used to be involved in
football they used to be involved.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
And they still are. They still are a lot of Yeah,
but okay, go ahead.

Speaker 15 (46:25):
How do you get them?

Speaker 21 (46:27):
That's the whole whole thing.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
That's the question of the day.

Speaker 22 (46:31):
It used to be one of the things what I'm
talking about. It used to be a rustler, but he
was good on somebody's dinner table. Today, you know, yesterday's
things are not working. We have to discover a new
way of getting the involvement of the young people back
to the plate where the energy is work off in

(46:57):
some type of activity that is positive.

Speaker 21 (47:00):
Yeah, dramas, dramas.

Speaker 22 (47:04):
Used to uh used to be that the uh.

Speaker 20 (47:07):
The talent contests and.

Speaker 21 (47:11):
An award was given, yeah for the talent contest. And
it used to be they all types of activities. How
do we get the young people back head to the
activities that will drain off some of the energy that
they had that they've been vocals forward each other now yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
And William, Yeah, thank you for that, William, because that's,
like I said, that's the question of the day. But
I don't think we can minimize I keep calling it
the wild wilde West. I do not think that we
can minimize the influence uh that not only young people,
but are are grown ups, you know, but that social
media has and I think once we get that figured

(47:55):
out and wrestled down, I think we can get messages
across uh to those who may be may be lost.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Denise, go ahead, how are you? Denise? Are you there? Hello?

Speaker 6 (48:11):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Denise, Denise, Denise. Okay, let's go Denise. We we couldn't
get you. Let's go back to the phone lines.

Speaker 7 (48:20):
Kevin, go ahead, Hey, Jen, Hey Ten, how you doing.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
I'm doing good. How are you?

Speaker 4 (48:26):
I'm doing well?

Speaker 23 (48:27):
Well?

Speaker 7 (48:27):
Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 17 (48:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
How'd the weekend go?

Speaker 15 (48:31):
Everything went well?

Speaker 4 (48:32):
E said. Once we had to postpone it the last event,
but we had to postpone, But everything else went pretty well.
The artist came in and we did a bunch of
rounds all around the city, different events. So I think
that went very well good.

Speaker 40 (48:43):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
And what I'm about to say is, and when I
say we, I mean people like me and people who
are from the environment I come from. What we did
at where we dropped the ball at is we made
a lot of things look sex for being attractive to
the younger generation. And then what they do is they
take it to another level. And I look at and
that's where the good or bad I look at it like,

(49:06):
let's say, for interest, if grandma was a CNAD, mama
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and so on and so forth with progression, whether it's
good or bad. As how it works. If somebody on
the street and hustling and that they shot one person,
the younger generation they want to shoot two to three,
four five people. They got to out do the next generation.

(49:26):
So what I'm saying is a couple a lot of
non parties who get money from the city, they need
to make them volunteer to walk there. Uh, these police
officers are not going to be able to take care
of our kids no matter what we want them to do.
It's gonna take us to that. Guys like me who
lived experiences, who've been arrested for fighting at showing he's

(49:47):
on thirty h Street as a young adult, that mindset,
we understand the mindset what they're going through. Just like
I would not ask somebody say if they say, hey, man,
we want you to talk to a group of kids
who think about getting in journalism, I would defer that
pobles be to talk to them. I don't have lived
experience in journalists, so for stuff like this, it needs
to be guys like myself get together, live the experience

(50:09):
and go out here and engage these kids. Don't just
sit there and watch them and watch a brew. Sit
and engage them. I was downtown celebrate a friend of
mine's birthday this last weekend, and we've seen five young,
young gentlemen walking around with the masks on their face,
and we engage.

Speaker 12 (50:24):
Say hey man, what's the deal?

Speaker 4 (50:27):
You know, look what kind of message you're given off
by having that mask on your face? And they all
took it down. They said, yes, sir, No, certain they
would actually polite kids. Is just the look that they
was giving off, the or that they was given off,
you would think, okay, something's about to go down. But
sometimes they just need to be engaged. And I'm not
asking anybody to be engaged with the kids. If you're
scared to be engaged with kids, if you don't have
lived experience as the same as these kids do, you

(50:49):
may not want to engage them. For somebody like myself,
So what I'm what I would ask kids if you
and I hate I hate being read, I wish my
mind would have been thinking to be proactive things like
this that's coming up, the fair, black expos, certain city
classic if we have a committee of nonprofit especially the
ones who'll get money from the cities. Okay, what is
our plan going to be for the fair? What our

(51:11):
plan to be is contanct somebody with the fair.

Speaker 7 (51:15):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
The only thing we ask is allow our volunteers are
get in free. We'll wear a certain volunteer shirt with
a certain phone and we'll get down we we we
will engage the kids.

Speaker 15 (51:26):
We were talking, we had conversations.

Speaker 7 (51:27):
We would get a couple of groups of kids together
and just kind of on the level.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's certain. Thank you, Kevin, that's certainly.
I mean, I don't disagree with any of it. All
good calls today, All good calls. Paula, go ahead, Are
you back, Paula, Hi, Yes, yes, go ahead, We.

Speaker 11 (51:48):
Got you back.

Speaker 44 (51:49):
Sorry I did have to step out away from the
phone for a minute, but thank you. Yes, I was
just calling.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Get my thoughts back.

Speaker 44 (51:58):
But I know earlier and there was a don't when
they had cone and was saying about you know, the
whop getting paddles.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Back in school and the whippers and everything, and that.

Speaker 44 (52:07):
That's just I'm not that's just not it. I'm long
said that, that's being uh long said that that you
know comes down from free and there's a lot of
things are coming out.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
About that paddling in the school to this current administration.

Speaker 44 (52:20):
I don't know if he knows it is talking to
bringing it back. So yeah, you know, we definitely don't
want to do that, and that's all. And to be
honest with you, that's a lot of our children's issues
is that, you know, they've just been given that belt.
They've been given that and then you know, I'll give
you something cry about, but they don't get ask him
while they're crying, you know. So I was going to

(52:42):
say about the fair. As far as the new policy,
I don't have a problem with it at all. And
I guess at the heat of the moment when I
heard it, because I'm just so fick of it like
everybody else, you know, I'm when they said what for
twenty five and older?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
For uh yeah, four chaper they can only chaperon to
four people.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
They've they've cut a limit on even they raise the
age level from twenty one to twenty five, and they
cut the limit the number of people somebody twenty five
and older. But to say, for instance, if somebody has
a family and you got six or seven kids, you
know you're gonna have to you have to figure it out.
But that's that's what it's gonna take to keep this.

Speaker 44 (53:18):
And I have no prim Well, what I was gonna
say is before I thought sometimes, you know, I'm a
mother of three four, it can be a lot.

Speaker 7 (53:26):
So I said, take you to two.

Speaker 44 (53:27):
We have to get aggressive.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
I'm tired. Yeah, I'm thick of it.

Speaker 43 (53:30):
You know.

Speaker 44 (53:30):
I heard also heard someone saying about because they don't know,
they need to know.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
Look the fair like you said about you come in here.

Speaker 44 (53:37):
To win, to handle problems, issues to social media, whatever
you're bringing out here to the plub wherever, expo whatever.
You know, these these events for us, some millennial boomers,
whatever generations, these are family safe, family traditions, enjoyable culture.

Speaker 19 (53:54):
You know, it's all of that.

Speaker 44 (53:56):
It's a way to bring families together, something to look
forward to.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
And and so when as I.

Speaker 44 (54:01):
Heard somebody say about the grandma, grandma, great grandma, she
can't come to experience. She may not feel comfortable, she
may not feel comfortable coming out with her grandchildren are
great grandchildren experience and that because she doesn't want to.

Speaker 7 (54:13):
Have to duck and dodge, and she shouldn't have to.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
So we need to educate. Look, this is ours and
they're our children.

Speaker 44 (54:19):
It's not about the police doing that. No, these are
our children to say something. And I love what Kevin
just said, because that's a great idea, I know, you know,
so maybe you know, just do something like that and
have people and when you have somebody approach to it
that looks like you you know, especially the you know,

(54:41):
the men to the younger men, then they are going
to kind of stop because sometimes that's just what they needed.
But I was gonna say my one final thought because
this was about the why you know, they just are
just reacting and they just don't care in public. You know,
it goes back I think with school, in school, the
whole thing of and this will happen in my uh

(55:03):
situations kind of that my own family. You know, if
somebody does something to you, they in the hand, but
he tells you to go and tell a teacher or something,
you know, somebody, and so I don't know, sometimes if
if those don't give handled the perfectly. The parent ends
up saying, you know what, somebody just hit she because
you don't. You don't want your child to just say

(55:23):
you take something.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
Yeah, So a lot of children we have to think
are they're.

Speaker 44 (55:26):
There, been, they've been trained or raised, and still somebody
hits you back. You just hit them, don't get up,
you just hit them back. So there they don't go
get a teacher or a social worker or anybody to
come in and try to have those into those children
talk and communicate about what the issue was, why are
this so they don't they're no, they they're not obtaining

(55:49):
those skills or they've been taught by you know, at home. Uh,
you hit them back, just hit them back, don't get nobody,
just hit them back.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
And Paula, thank you, thank you for your call.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Paula, We're thank you and I appreciate the call. We
got to get one more in here before we go
to break. But yeah, the PALLA went through a number
of issues and and that therein lies the problem. There's
so many different areas to address. Steve, I think you're
the last call of the hour.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Go ahead.

Speaker 10 (56:14):
I'm well, how are you.

Speaker 12 (56:18):
P a question or maybe answer?

Speaker 45 (56:21):
However, one for our younger people of colors there I
haven't heard understand that I moved and a lot of
that they.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Will be number as well, Steve, we got a really
bad connection. I'm trying to I'm trying to understand what
you're saying. Are you saying that the youngsters have no
realization of de I and the impacts of d I?

Speaker 45 (56:56):
Uh?

Speaker 17 (56:59):
I can't wait clain this to.

Speaker 46 (57:01):
Them so because if they don't get this message now,
they're not going to get a further education because just
the federal government that's going to take every opportunity that
they have that they can.

Speaker 15 (57:13):
And if we don't make them aware to use the
energy that they spend on nonsense and spend it on
future the same energy.

Speaker 20 (57:22):
And are we not, as adults, not pushing this hard
enough or they're not hearing us?

Speaker 2 (57:28):
You know what I think is a combination of both,
I mean, and then and throw in a couple of
more factors, because again, this.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Is not an easy you know, it's not an easy fix.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
It's unfortunate that each year the fair has to keep
just adjusting upwards. But for people to be able to
come and enjoy the fair, for folks to be able
to come and enjoy downtown.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
So it's necessary, but it's not the solution. You know,
it's necessary to.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Try to secure things and make things available to more
people or folks that are not you know, that are
not a part of the fighting and the shooting and
things of that nature. But there's still that those things
are on the you know, the police and the city
county council and the enhanced curfews, the State Fair and
the Indiana State Police, and they're enhanced, uh you know,

(58:15):
underaged miners policy. Those are all things that on the peripheral,
those are all things that kind of help. But there's
a larger problem at at there's a larger problem at large.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Larger at large.

Speaker 46 (58:29):
I'm just saying, they understand what's going on in our government.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
May I think that they are adults that don't understand
what's going on in our government, But I you know
that that's a I don't know, Steve. It's hard for
me to say what they do and do not understand.
I don't I know that somehow, somewhere, part of that
solution is right there in our little hands and these
handheld computers and social media. I don't know how, where, what,

(58:58):
but this is what had their total attention and total respect.
And again I keep calling it the wild wild West,
and nobody is really addressing this part of it. Which
as so what Coller just said that they heard that
the beef started on social media, and so we got
to we got to figure out how to embrace it

(59:20):
more and learn to communicate more that way.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
I think that's going to be a big part of it.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
But if anybody knew Steve, we'd haven't figured out.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
We haven't done.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
But again, the main thing is to keep talking and
keep trying, because once we stop trying, then it is over.
But as far as you know, the sophisticated nature of
civics and things of that nature are are black history.
All of those things are good. Those are all good things.
They're all good to know and to need to know.
So yeah, all right, I appreciate your call. We are

(59:52):
going to take a quick break and we'll be back.
More community connection. I do believe we have coming up
Mary County Prosecutor Ryan me Ryan Meres right after this.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
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at the Indianas State Fair. As I was saying earlier,
Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Meirs is back with us today.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Prosecutor Meors, how are you doing?

Speaker 17 (01:02:14):
Hello, I'm doing great.

Speaker 12 (01:02:16):
Thank you for having me on.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Doing great? Yeah, good, I think we're all doing great.
It's a good day, not raining.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Everything is wonderful. So I was just it's been a crazy,
crazy busy day. But I'm sure you're used to those
as well. So you know, we we often talk to
you about, you know, some some pretty serious stuff and
I probably will ask a pretty serious question a little
bit in just a few But right now you're here

(01:02:43):
on a wonderful community outreach effort that's taking place tomorrow
to the east and to the west of the Circle,
which is where we are, the Backpack Drive and the
Family Support Resource Day that the Marion County Prosecutor's Office
is sponsoring. Can you tell us about both events and
why the involvement of the Prosecutor's Office.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
I think they're both wonderful. So this is great news.

Speaker 12 (01:03:08):
Well, thank you for giving us this opportunity to talk
about it. We have our Family Support Resource Day which
is tomorrow from ten to one o'clock at the Crazy Academy,
which is sixty five oh one Sunnyside Drive.

Speaker 15 (01:03:21):
Yeah, in importance, and really that's.

Speaker 12 (01:03:24):
An opportunity where we're going to have twenty six different
service providers who are going to join the Prosecutor's Office
and try to help as many people as possible with
One of the things that we found is when we
encounter people who are involved either in the criminal justice
system or involved with child support issues, there's usually more
than one problem or more than one challenge that that
family is facing. And so the idea of tomorrow is

(01:03:44):
let's get as many service providers together as possible who
can help assist people with all the different issues that
they might be facing. And so that's from ten to
one tomorrow, and that's more on the East Side, but
to all my West Side friends. From five to six
thirty forty one forty one North High School Road, which
is all of that Missionary Baptist Church. Myself, my good

(01:04:07):
friend pastor more my good friend Pastor David Green, are
going to get together and we're doing a backpack drive
and we want to give young people the tools to
be successful, and that starts with making sure that they
have adequate school supplies. So inside these backpacks, these kids
are going to be decked out. It's every school supply
you can imagine, for markers and cranes to colored pencils,
the notebooks. We've got you covered on basically anything that

(01:04:30):
you could want or need for the school year that
I know so many kids have already started. And we
really just want to send a message of positivity to
the community that hey, we know there's some people out
there who are struggling. We want to be here to help,
but also let kids know that we want to make
investments in you, and part of that investment is making
sure that things go well in school, and it starts
with making sure that you have all the tools that

(01:04:52):
you need. So we're excited about both of these events.
We're excited about all the different community partners that we
have and We're looking forward to a great day tomorrow
to hopefully help as many people as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Yeah, and prosecutor mirrors both of these tomorrow. Does anybody
have to do anything to attend or to receive the backpacks,
like registration or you know anything prior.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
You just come as you are.

Speaker 12 (01:05:19):
Yeah, come as you are. It's from five to six thirty.
That's tomorrow evening, five to six thirty while supplied last
We've got quite a few book backs, like I said,
stocked up ready to go, and so we want to
try to help as many people as we can. But
five to six thirty at all of that missionary, we're
going to try to get people through there as quickly
as possible and impare to the Family Support Resource Day.

(01:05:41):
Come visit us over there and Lawrence and we'd love
to see everybody at the Create Academy and try to
help people who are dealing with different issues where they
have that nexus criminal justice system.

Speaker 23 (01:05:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
How is the child support picture looking in Indianapolis and
Marion County? Are we still dealing with a large number
of delinquencies or has that kind of leveled out or
we haven't talked about child support in a long time.

Speaker 12 (01:06:06):
Yeah, so we're trending in the right direction.

Speaker 17 (01:06:08):
Certainly.

Speaker 12 (01:06:09):
One of our goals is to try to get as
many people as possible paying into the system. And the
reason why that's so important to me is something helps,
And so what we've really focused on is can we
get more people to pay into our system? And once
we get people paying into our system, what we have
found is that five dollars very quickly turns into ten dollars,

(01:06:29):
which turns into twenty dollars, which turns into forty dollars,
and people become really more engaged in their child's life
and are offering more financial support. So we've actually never
collected more money than we've collected. Last year, I think
we were over one hundred million dollars collections in our
child support agency, and I attribute that to us trying

(01:06:49):
to just work with as many people as possible and
try to get people paying into the system. We do
what we call our good faith Initiative for driver's licenses
to our Child'support or zero. And the way that works
is you tell us what you can pay, and if
you're sign up and make the good faith payment, I'll
reinstate the driver's license today as soon as you get

(01:07:10):
that first payment.

Speaker 43 (01:07:11):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (01:07:12):
And what by doing that is when you get people
their driver's license, when you extend kind of that good faith,
it helps people get that job, It helps people become
more engaged with the child's life, and you see those
payments increase pretty significantly over time. I will be the
first person to say the child sports system is not
at all perfect. We really do have a limited role

(01:07:33):
and what we can do. We want to try to
help out both custodial parents and non custodial parents and
try to get as much money to these kids as possible.
And we've been very successful in terms of the amount
that we've collected. Had never been higher than what we've
been able to do over the last couple of years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Yeah, that's fantastic. And that assistance and resource is going
to be available at the Family Support Resource today tomorrow
out at the Craig Academy sixty five one Sunnyside Road.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Uh So that is that is going to be huge.
The Prosecutor's office.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
We have to thank the Prosecutor's Office for both of
these initiatives because, as you say, the kids need more,
you know, they more and more money needs to go
to the children, no doubt.

Speaker 23 (01:08:16):
UH.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
And the supplies for getting ready for school or going
to school if you're already there, those are invaluable as well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
So you know, it all helps out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
So thank you, uh to the Prosecutor's office, and thank
you to Pike Township School board member and uh a
senior pastor at Olivet Missionary Baptist Church, pastor Wayne Moore.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
We want to thank him as well. So, yeah, this
is this is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
This is absolutely and we you know, all this week,
last week and the week before, we've been getting on
as many of these as possible because you know, sometimes
they're on the east side, west side, north, south, whatever.
But as long as we can keep these initiatives and
these uh this outreach out there, UH, that's always a
good thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
And so you know, we we think thank you quite
a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
For that, UH Rescue Demers, I wanted to ask you
one one quick, well two quick things. I don't know
how much you heard of the last segment, but we
were talking about how the state fair has cracked down
uh and enhanced their unaccompanied minors policy.

Speaker 14 (01:09:20):
UH.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
And that's in direct response to a fight that took
place on the midway Saturday with unsupervised juveniles and the
you know, they're generally support, generally good support. Oh, I
didn't hear anybody say they didn't like the the idea.
There has been reaction to the deadly mass shooting downtown

(01:09:44):
on the Circle over the Fourth of July weekend, so
much so, uh that, in addition to the city County
Council enhancing their curfew violations, the governor. Governor Mike Brown
has laid the blame for the gun violence and the
violence here in the city at the feet of you

(01:10:05):
and the mayor.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
But for you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
He's even hinted at possibly asking lawmakers to pass legislation
that would give him the authority to fire or remove
non compliant prosecutors in the state of Indiana.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
So my question is what are you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Have you been taught, have you talked to the governor?
Have you all talked this out? And the other question
is what is your reaction to that? Because that's is
that the answer removing prosecutors who are non compliant?

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
And I don't even know what non compliant means.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
So I know I've got three questions in there, but
I wanted to get to get your view on those.

Speaker 12 (01:10:45):
Well, I certainly appreciate that question. And the Governor Braun
has never called me, he's never spoken to me, and
he's never told me what the solution to the problems
that we have here in Marion County, how he can
help solve some of these problems. And the reality is
the problem of youth gun violence is way bigger than
one person and is way bigger than one office or agency.

(01:11:06):
It touches on family life, it touches on schools, it
touches on communities, it touches on the criminal justice system,
it touches on dcs, which is an organization that the
governor is directly in charge of. And so you know,
all of us need to work together to try to
find solutions. And I'd be open to that dialogue with
the governor to have that conversation about what we can

(01:11:28):
do to work together to try to help people and
in particular kids here in Marion County. But he also
has to be realistic about what's going on. And what's
going on is way too many kids have access to guns,
and the reason they have access to those guns is
because there are no gun laws instead of Indiana, and
when you encourage everybody to walk around with a gun.

(01:11:49):
When you get rid of permitless carry, you shouldn't be
surprised when more kids end up with guns in their hands.
And that's what we're seeing day in and day out
in our community. The individuals who were involved in what
took place downtown didn't have criminal histories where the Prosecutor's
office was in a position to act. They did have

(01:12:10):
DCS histories where they were involved with DCS, and there
were early intervention points with DCS that didn't keep those
kids out of the criminal justice system. But when we
talk about what's going on in our community, we've never
had a higher conviction rate on homicide cases. Our homicide
conviction rate at trial is at ninety four percent, which
is at an all time high at the Marion County

(01:12:31):
Prosecutor's office. But when we talk about who's being charged
with murder in Marion County, we filed fifty two murder
cases this year. Twenty six of those individuals, which is
half fifty percent of those individuals had never even been
arrested before, meaning that they have had no interaction with
the criminal justice system prior.

Speaker 15 (01:12:52):
To their first charge of murders.

Speaker 12 (01:12:54):
And that is a direct reflection of everybody walking around
with a gun in their pocket, and everybody becomes real tough.
And these simple confrontations that exist online, these simple disputes
that exist in person, end up in gun violence far
too often because everybody's armed. And we're seeing the result
of that, because twenty six people who have never been

(01:13:15):
charged as an adult are now charged with murder, which
is our most serious crime. And so if the governor
wants to sit down and try to solve these problems,
we're happy to do it. We want to have those conversations.
But my suspicion is the governor is not super interested
in trying to solve those issues because that would require
him to evaluate the gun laws, and it can also

(01:13:37):
for him to have a beating full conversation with us.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Yeah, and somehow perhaps a reversal or even an amendment
to permitless carry. Can you draw a through line from
the passage of that legislation to what we're seeing now.

Speaker 12 (01:13:52):
Absolutely, if you look at the number, and I hope
people are aware, it's not only the number of shootings
involving kids, the number of accidental streams that have taken
place involving kids has in dramatically. You know, we far
too often, you know, we read about what takes place
on the fourth of July and kids walking around with
guns who are as young as thirteen years of age

(01:14:12):
where are able to get those guns. But what's just
is damaging to our community and which is just the
biggest tragedy is we have had two kids, one of
them who is aged three years old, who lost their
life to gun violence because they were able to get
access to their parents' guns. And so again it's like
we have to define this issue much bigger is the issue,

(01:14:33):
and the problem is kids have access to guns, and
it's because adults don't do a good job of taking
care of them. It's because adults don't do a good
job of educating kids about how dangerous guns are. But
you know, we're seeing three year olds kill themselves or
their siblings because they get access to their parents' guns.
Two of those cases in the month of July, which

(01:14:54):
is another terrible tragedy where you know, individuals who are
involved with their parents are going to end up being
in charge. And so this whole problem of kids having
access to guns not only manifested itself of what you
saw on the fourth of July, but it also manifested
itself in a CBS parking lot where a three year
old lost their life because the parent didn't responsibly handle

(01:15:16):
that firearm and keep that firearm safe. So a kid
was protected from that gun, you know, firing and ultimately
taking their life.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Yeah, and you're right that that carry permitless carry. I
don't know that that how that translates into open carry.
But just yesterday, just yesterday, there was a man in
front of me and I just happened to look down
and on the outside of his you know, waistband, was
this huge gun. It was a huge handgun to me,

(01:15:46):
and I'm just like, I couldn't breathe. I mean, I
just I couldn't function. And I don't know if he
was spoiling for a fight, if he thought that that
was going to keep people away from him, I just
don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
But it's just to me, it was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
We were, you know, we were all at I think
it was was it the Dollar Tree or someplace very
non threatening and you know, the need to take a gun.
He wasn't running security or anything like that. And that's
that's kind of a big part of what our society,
even if you're not in a dispute, people are showing,
you know, they're they're they're basically saying, hey, I got

(01:16:21):
a gun.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
And it really is, uh, it really is problematic.

Speaker 12 (01:16:27):
It is because everybody gets a lot tougher and everybody
becomes more aggressive when they have that gun on their side.
And we see that play out all the time in
our city. We see people who are losing their life
over literally nothing because they're getting into these simple, petty
disputes that should never result in gun violence, where people
end up being being shot and killed. You know, just

(01:16:50):
in the last couple of weeks, people have been sentenced,
We've been fortunate enough to convict some people of murder,
and we send out these press releases and my quotes
are almost become at this point in time, because we
keep talking about simple disputes between two people end up
with one person dead and one person doing sixty seventy
years in the Department of Correction, which is a huge

(01:17:11):
loss to both of those families and is a huge
loss to our community because we know the traumatic impacts
gun violence has on the people around those families and
those incidents.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Our guest, if you're just tuning in is Marion County
Prosecutor Ryan Mears. He's here to share with us a
backpack drive taking place tomorrow from five to six thirty
pm forty one to forty one North High School Road,
just in tremendous outreach school supplies included in the backpacks.
This is a partnership on behalf of the Marion County

(01:17:42):
Prosecutor's Office and Pipe Township Scoreboard member Wayne Moore. There's
also a Family Support Resource Day tomorrow as well. This
one will be on the East Side from ten until
one at the Craig Academy Child Support Assistants, Early Childhood Development,
Family Support Service, Employment and job training, and food assistance,
which is again, Prosecutor, we can't thank you enough for

(01:18:05):
the Mary County Prosecutor's office involvement in those community outreach programs.
Three one, seven, forty zero thirteen ten is the number,
Prosecutor miers. There was another And there's a couple of
folks that have a question for you, and I will
let them ask brief questions because we don't want to
hold you too long. But non compliant. The governor keeps

(01:18:25):
calling you non compliant. Do you know what that's in
reference to Is it in reference to the low level
marijuana's position or just something he feels is non compliant.

Speaker 12 (01:18:37):
Yeah, it's so. They passed a law last year to
label individuals non compliant prosecutors. And that's one of the
things that they've passed is and I've not officially been
designated the non compliant prosecutor. There's a process that you
have to.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Oh, I see.

Speaker 12 (01:18:55):
But the one thing I would tell the community is
is this, I've been very transparent with the community that
I'm not going to prosecute a simple possession of marijuana
because I have seen who ends up in the criminal
justice system. When you look at marijuana usage rates among
African Americans as well as white people, and then you

(01:19:15):
look at and see who gets charged with the crime,
there's a dramatic discrepancy there. And if we see these
sorts of discrepancies and we don't do anything about it,
we lose credibility as a criminal justice system as a whole.
And I love the law and I love the Constitution,
and what that says is the equal protection claw says
the law has to apply to everyone equally, and if

(01:19:37):
it doesn't, that's a problem. And we're going to make
sure we're going to do our best in our part
to make sure that the law applies equally to everyone.
And if that means we're going to decline to prosecute
simple possession of marijuana charges, I'm happy to do that,
and I've been very transparent with the community about why
I'm doing that and why I'm going to continue to

(01:19:57):
do that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Indeed, you have a question for prosecutor mirrors.

Speaker 47 (01:20:03):
Yes, yes, a good afternoon everybody. I just wanted to say, Uh,
first of all, what time is that backpack drive?

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Can you turn your Can you turn your phone down
just a bit? Andrea or Andrea? So, uh yeah, turn
your Yeah, turn your radio. I'm sorry, not your phone,
your radio?

Speaker 14 (01:20:23):
Is that better?

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
Yeah? I think yeah, it's a little better. Go ahead, Okay, what.

Speaker 7 (01:20:28):
Time is the best?

Speaker 5 (01:20:31):
Five or six thirty?

Speaker 23 (01:20:32):
Okay, thank you?

Speaker 47 (01:20:34):
And so then I wanted to ask it's a pal.
I know this may not be related to him, but
it's the pal full Till available for children through the
police department. Because I'm trying to understand why these kids,
how many kids have done.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
And access to gun. Uh, it's just crazy and.

Speaker 47 (01:20:57):
I don't know, I know he got it the community
have to help and aiding these children with something else
to do.

Speaker 18 (01:21:04):
But I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:21:09):
Okay, Yes, the folk Club still exists and they still
provide opportunities and leagues to different kids in our city.

Speaker 23 (01:21:19):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:21:19):
And I agree with the caller, like, we have to
find constructive ways to engage young people and the world
has changed dramatically. Social media didn't exist when I was
in high school, and now social media dominates all of
these kids' lives in terms of how they interact with
how they can information. And we have to for those changes,
and we have to figure out ways to engage kids

(01:21:41):
through non traditional ways, and a lot of that's going
to revolve around social media. And so if there's anybody
who has great ideas about how to do that, we
want to hear them because we want to have those
conversations with kids about the dangers of getting violence, but
also give kids the leadership tools and skills that they
need to be the bigger person to walk away from
some of these things, to understand that there is a

(01:22:02):
better and bigger tomorrow out there for him, and that
one is caught up and what's online. They're going to
find that what happens online is not real life, but
can lead to real life consequences.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Absolutely, and you must have been you must have been
hearing my diety. I get on a soapbox about social
media and the culture. That's the culture in which these
kids live, operate and function. Uh And until we learn
to embrace that and figure out how to work more close,
I call it the wild wild West.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
I just said it a short time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
You know, we're going to keep running into these roadblocks,
these these walls when it comes to communicating with them.
So I think social media is a huge part of that.
Very very I agree. I couldn't agree with you more. Prosecutor,
Mators couldn't agree.

Speaker 24 (01:22:47):
With you more.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
We have a fellow former city kind of counselor prosecutor
to talk with you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Counselor Oliver, go ahead, how are you?

Speaker 48 (01:22:54):
Thank you very much taking my call. I just want
to not thank you for the prosecutor for coming up,
but I want to go back to a point when
that permitment to carry was on the government's desk to
be silent. I think about two days before that, I
tried to get some support. I asked a couple of
gentlemen to go with me to forty six Marini Street

(01:23:18):
and a prep to do a press conference asking the
governor not to sign that permittment to carry into law
without on the council, I addressed an issue like this.
I felt in my district the politic permitments to carry
would have a detrimental effect, a negative effect in my
district that I represented as any kind of council, not

(01:23:40):
only my district, but the city admitted up in the
State of India area. And I want to and I
regret that I didn't go fart with that because I
would talk at it, not doing it, because it wasn't
do any good.

Speaker 20 (01:23:51):
I kind of just let it go by.

Speaker 48 (01:23:53):
But again, the permitster carriage is just devastate entire community. Yeah,
I think you prosecuted for doing ut if you do
to break pieces speak.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Thank you so much, thank you, Thank you, Counselor Ali
prosecutor mirrors that you said you can draw a direct
line through line between the passage of permitless carry and
the increase in gun violence and gun depth. Uh, do
you have a percentage of increase or is that still
being formulated the data?

Speaker 12 (01:24:23):
Yeah, I think it's being you know, we're still formulating
that but but it's also the nature and circumstances. Who's
the victim of gun violence?

Speaker 40 (01:24:30):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
Okay, what do the casements look like?

Speaker 12 (01:24:33):
You know, we're more accidental shootings than we've ever seen before.
We're seeing more kids lose their lives in accidental shootings
than we've ever seen before. And perhaps most importantly, when
we talk about who's involved in gun violence, these are
individuals who have never been arrested before, they've never been
charged in the doles, and now they find themselves charged
with murder. H that was a very rare thing that

(01:24:56):
occurred seven eight years ago. Now it's half of our
case that speaks to how just these very simple disputes
and arguments, whether they originate online or in person, lead
to violence. And we have seen this since Permitles's Carrier
has occurred, where these confrontations are being solved with someone

(01:25:17):
pulling the trigger and someone losing their life.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Ye take from one final question, and then we're going
to let you wrap up again about the events tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Brittany, go ahead, how are you?

Speaker 9 (01:25:27):
Yes? Hi, I will happen questions Because my brother Jordan
Gray was actually locked up eleven years ago. Foxley accused
of murder, and we've been trying to get back in court,
and it seems like that every time that they're looking
into the case, they're finding more and more evidence that

(01:25:48):
he was not a part from the charge and they
charged him with and they gave him seventy five doing
thirty five years in prison. And I just wanted to
touch these there any way that we can try to
these young men that being fossily appealed of murder, and
there's the way we can give them their life back.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
Like with life.

Speaker 18 (01:26:12):
Can you give you the name again, Jordan Grace?

Speaker 12 (01:26:16):
Okay, So we have the only conviction integrity review unit
in the state of Indiana to look into these very
issues that you're talking about. I just wrote down this
name and I will make sure that someone in our
unit immediately starts looking at it. And if there's an
attorney of record, we'll reach out to that attorney as well.

Speaker 9 (01:26:35):
Okay, because it's been the only one situation. God just
wanted to touch base with that because it's being hard
because once you're in the system, it's hard for you
to get out of the system. For the black young men.

Speaker 12 (01:26:48):
Okay, Well, we will take a look at it and
we'll be in touch with your attorney.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
All right, Thank you, all rightie, thank you uh and
uh and Prosecutor mirrors. Thank you so much for the
time that you've you've been able to share with us today,
talking with listeners, sharing about the Backpack Drive everything. This
is also so very important because at the end of
it all, we all had to be in the same community,
and in part of the community we help each other out.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
So thank you for your know for sharing this with
us and for what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
And tell Pastor more we all said hello, he's been
on the show before as well. He just wasn't able
to be here today, I guess, so we certainly thank you, pardon, I.

Speaker 12 (01:27:29):
Will definitely tatch that along and I know he's a
huge fan.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Yes, indeed, so very quickly folks want to find out
more about the Backpack Drive or the family support resource
to day where should they go?

Speaker 12 (01:27:40):
So they just want to look at on any of
our social media. We have posted flyers up but again
tomorrow ten to one pm sixty five on one Plinny
Side Road, Cray Academy, and then at all of that
Missionary Baptist Church from five to six thirty to backpack
Giveaway US forty one forty one North High School Road.
It's on all the prosecutors off the social media ages,

(01:28:01):
and so if anybody's interested, those flyers are posted and
we look forward to seeing everybody tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Yeah, pastor more at all of it. I hope I
said that right the last time I may have said it,
but yeah, pastor more at Oliver. Thank you very much,
prosecutor mirrors, and hopefully we can get you back here
soon before the end.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
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Speaker 12 (01:28:15):
Sounds great. I appreciate your show and thank you for
always forwarding these conversations.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
All right, thank you, and we'll be back with more
community connection right after.

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And we are back with Community Connection. I want to
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So there we go.

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did seven earlier. Let's do caller number six, caller number six,
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How are you happy to take your call?

Speaker 10 (01:37:51):
How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Are you there? Yes, I'm sorry, I forgot, I'll hold Okay,
that's all right.

Speaker 43 (01:38:02):
Oh, let me get I'm sorry, I forgot.

Speaker 19 (01:38:04):
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Speaker 43 (01:38:05):
Okay, let me pull this up.

Speaker 15 (01:38:08):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 43 (01:38:10):
What we were talking about earlier, a tina.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
But we talked about several things. What were which one?

Speaker 43 (01:38:16):
The children? I guess when I turned it on, y'all
were talking about the children.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Oh, it's the State Fair. The Yeah, they enhanced their
unaccompanied minor policy. They've tightened that up even more.

Speaker 43 (01:38:27):
Yes, yeah, I've worked. I'm working out there for the
Before you know, I moved to Saint Louis and I
didn't have a full time job, so I came back
here to work for Fair. I've done that ent and
on since I was sixteen years old. Seventy two nails.
So but I haven't been out there in about seventeen
to eighteen years, so it's it's a really exciting time.
They got about blood. I got my blood decades ago,

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and I just loved doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
The States the State Fair.

Speaker 43 (01:38:54):
Yeah, I'm working on one of the rides. I normally
worked for the fair itself. They didn't have any jobs
by the time I got my nine, nine and two
up before and they giving away all the job. So
I want to you a Tochans referred me to the Midway,
and so I worked for one of the rods for
the first time since I was sixteenth.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
Okay, so you're here working.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
You live in Saint Louis, but you're back here in
Indianapolis working the State Fair.

Speaker 43 (01:39:22):
Yeah, just trying to make a little extra money.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
Just trying to make a little extra money.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Okay, all right, Well good, Now, do they have you
scheduled for, you know, each open day at the fair
because I know they're closed on Mondays or do you
just do one or two days?

Speaker 10 (01:39:34):
How do you do it every day?

Speaker 43 (01:39:36):
Back in the day, it used to be twelve days.
I'm going way back now. We just worked straight too.
I think they started closing on Monday and Tuesday because
of the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
Yeah, yeah, now they're now they're closed on just Mondays.

Speaker 35 (01:39:47):
I do believe I'm.

Speaker 43 (01:39:48):
Close on Monday, so I get an extra day, you know,
I get a day office of working straight through.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
So were you there during the dusktop last weekend? L's Saturday?
Were you there?

Speaker 43 (01:39:58):
I was there, but I was they're pretty much all day,
but didn't know.

Speaker 15 (01:40:03):
I just hearde later.

Speaker 43 (01:40:04):
Somebody else's.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Happening, if you will, Yeah, I have to give it
to you know.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
The people are responding quickly and doing what they can
do in their lane.

Speaker 29 (01:40:14):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
The Council enhances the the the curfew, the State Fair
enhances their unaccompanied minor policy. So folks are responding and
trying to make you know they're they're trying to help.
But you know, we got to do our part too, So.

Speaker 43 (01:40:30):
I'd like to, you know, I put up putting the euston,
so on greater low the greatest love of all I
believe the children of our future. Oh, teach them well
and let them lead the way, Show them all the
duties they possess inside, give them a sense of pride
to make it. Let the children's laugh to remind us

(01:40:50):
of how we used to be. I'm telling you two
and I remember in school when needs to pledge the allegiance,
and we used to have the Bible. As a matter
of fact, I was at thirty seven next to Juvenile Center,
so we went right across the street to Galilee. I
was coming from Galilee on Friday on November the twenty

(01:41:11):
second at three pm when the teachers met us in
the middle of the street boo boo crying about President
Kennedy had been shot. And you know an indictment I have.
And I'm a Christian, but we as Christians are we
as a community or with a country that one woman
I think Matimo hera, Yeah, take career out of school

(01:41:34):
and and we've been suffering every too.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Okay, well, Greg, thank you for what you've been doing
at the fair and for the service to the to
the state of Indiana and the city.

Speaker 3 (01:41:48):
I'm glad that you enjoyed. You say it gets in
your system and you can't let it go. Huh.

Speaker 43 (01:41:52):
Yeah, this is home. I'm in Saint Louis, but this
is really home home year money. So my car is
down about the greyhound back there to make one way
to make some money, and I be getting the car
when I'm here and driving back.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
All right, well you be careful, all right, you be
careful out there at the stay Fair.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
Appreciated.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
Thank you, Greg, thank you, all right, thank you, mister Russell.
Mister Russell, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (01:42:16):
How are you.

Speaker 23 (01:42:19):
Tina?

Speaker 18 (01:42:19):
Interesting points today. I was glad to hear the prosecutor
say that he's keeping track of what's happened since permit
miss carry. Yeah, yeah, the state, And you know I
haven't been I've been trying and haven't been successful. When
I've talked to certain issues that I've spoken to, they

(01:42:40):
didn't seem to think it was that big a deal.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Well, he says he can draw a direct line from
the passage of that legislation to what's going on now.
He said, there's no and and accidental deaths involving children
with guns fifty percent increase since that law passed.

Speaker 3 (01:42:57):
Fifty He said, it's half of the case.

Speaker 18 (01:43:00):
And I think it's important to draw that because that's
the only way that we really will resolve help resolve me.
He said, this is this is a big issue. Like
he said, this is a bigger issue then it appears
to be on the surface. But anytime you can as
as you remember back in the day in school, you know,
they had a book, uh, connecting the dots, You remember

(01:43:26):
they would have Yeah. I think more people need to
go back to that and connect the dots when it
comes to certain problems. And I was going to ask
him if he uh maybe you are some other uh
person in the public eye might know this. But you know,
the United Kingdom uh supposedly uh doesn't have a policy

(01:43:51):
of guns. I mean, you know, it seems to me
that it's it's a gun frenzy in this country and
really the world, because if you look at the different
outbreaks across the world, a lot behind that is the
municians company or you know, it's not just a gun company,
but the munition companies. Wherever they see.

Speaker 15 (01:44:15):
A packet or disagreements between.

Speaker 18 (01:44:18):
People, they'll shoot in with with their munitions and guns
and armaments and whatnot. And it's kind of a big,
big business, I imagine. And uh, but I just wondered, Uh.
United Kingdoms supposedly outlawed guns, and they seem to be
pretty effective. Have you heard anything lately about what's happening

(01:44:41):
in England, for instance, in terms of people are armed
with personal guns. Have you heard anything linkedly about that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
I have not I've not read or heard anything.

Speaker 10 (01:44:54):
No, I haven't, but I think it.

Speaker 18 (01:44:57):
Might be instructed if we look at societies that have
different policies to see what their success rate is in
terms of that.

Speaker 10 (01:45:06):
Yeah, uh, you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
I look that up, mister Russell.

Speaker 17 (01:45:10):
I certainly appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Yeah, I will.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
That's a that's a good point, and it's it's so
interesting how other countries can do so much better than
we can, but they don't have they don't have the
gun laws that we do, or lack of gun laws.
I guess she's said, you know, they don't have the
gun laws we have.

Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
H mannye Manuel, how are you?

Speaker 9 (01:45:29):
Thank Janna?

Speaker 11 (01:45:29):
How you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
I'm doing great? How you doing?

Speaker 18 (01:45:33):
I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 7 (01:45:33):
I actually called in because I hadn't received my ticket
yet that I had won the other day, and uh,
doc camera took care of.

Speaker 17 (01:45:39):
Me, so thank you camera.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
Okay, all right, Uh, I.

Speaker 7 (01:45:45):
Just had a comment about the uh the uh stuffed
up over at the at the fair ground. I look
at it like this too. Everybody got a lot of
good comments and everything, you know, as far as the
conversation and stuff, you know, but it's up to us.
We're not talking about the police and and and having

(01:46:06):
to have somebody else do our job for us. We
we we we've kind of dropped the ball. I'm not
saying everyone. I'm just saying I mean us as as
uh as our families, taking care of our children, our communities.
I remember back in the day when everybody knew everybody,
and when you was out there messing up. You know
what I'm saying, You could chestise other people's children. Now

(01:46:28):
you can't do that no more because they'll be ready
to the parents be ready.

Speaker 21 (01:46:31):
To fight you.

Speaker 7 (01:46:32):
You know what I'm saying. It's it's it's it's it's
it's we in a point in time now where we
need to get back together as far as because it
takes a village to raise raise children nowadays, and and
and and and put some morals back into our kids
mind and also put some let them know we love them.
It's a lot of hatred. These kids got a lot

(01:46:54):
of hatred in them. And a lot of reasons that
that is is because the parents are going through things
and a lot of times they take it out on
their children, and then when they get out in the street,
they don't know how to act morely because what's going
on at home that makes sense?

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely it does.

Speaker 7 (01:47:12):
And it's like you said, it's not it's not it's
not a strange solution.

Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
It's just it's gonna take everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:47:20):
And everything, all these conversations, all these ideas as as
a whole to help come back. This and a lot
of it too is we gotta put God first, and
not only our lives, but in our children's lives as well.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
All right, Mannie, thank you very much for your call.
Appreciate it. All right, thank you? A collar online three?
We have a color online three. Oh we also before
we go yeah, hi, before we go to.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
That, we do have a winner for the State Fair
tickets family four pack, Rita Cherry Davis. So congratulations to you,
Rita Cherry Davis. All right, okay, now we can get back.
I wanted to get that in before we had to
sign off.

Speaker 5 (01:48:02):
Go ahead, go ahead, Well, why I was just like, uh,
I've been listening to you a long time. But anyway,
see comment that you made. I don't remember when last week,
I guess how that the church is out there and
they are giving two other community which is I agree

(01:48:26):
with that one hundred percent. But you know, sometimes we
have to go outside the building and reach people where
they're at, into the communities, in homes, even in homes,
knocking on doors, and that we'll know that they're there.
I'm not We're asking them to come to us and
we not go to them. And that obviously is not

(01:48:47):
working because a lot of people are not going to church.
I'm not saying everybody's not. And I think too, we
have a church we have forgotten.

Speaker 7 (01:49:00):
I don't know to say this.

Speaker 5 (01:49:03):
We during up the pandemic, a lot of us didn't
didn't believe that voting was necessary, and I think it's
trickled down to the community because Martin Luther King Jr.

(01:49:29):
Was the church, was involved in the church. And we
have got to get back to the point it's okay
to I mean, when you speak out against something that
you feel is right, it's okay to do that. We
have gotten so far away from what we used to

(01:49:50):
believe in terms of voting as a community and except
to the church and getting out in the community and
let them know it's okay to vote for us who
they believe in. We have to get we have to
walk out of the buildings and talk to them one

(01:50:11):
on one.

Speaker 18 (01:50:12):
In the community.

Speaker 5 (01:50:14):
You can't expect people to come to you when they
don't know anything about you, anything about the church and
have an experience, and a lot of people in the
community don't have any outlets or any support in any way.

Speaker 20 (01:50:28):
To say, oh, I'm get up and go to church.

Speaker 7 (01:50:31):
Uh, they don't.

Speaker 5 (01:50:32):
They don't think like that. I really don't think they
think like that. And it trickles down to the vote.
When we're voting, we don't. We're we're very insensitive to
voting and too much. Too many times other people are
telling us, are telling us how we should react in

(01:50:52):
our own communities about what's going on in the state
and federal level. We're not committing ourselves to I'm just
gonna say I'm democratic, not committing ourselves to the system
of what's going on. So a lot of people we
were losing what we had and what we're dealing with

(01:51:16):
today because we're not getting out to vote. I'm okay
to not to. I don't know how to say it's
okay to be to vote for someone that you believe in.
I don't believe that people who don't who you don't

(01:51:36):
vote for, who you I mean, who you vote for,
the person who the people who were undrunk, people who
are or use marijuana, or homosexual, lesbian or what was
the other abortion under It was so much more underneath

(01:51:58):
that than just that one thing. I mean, you're you're
you can have a white picket sins. I hate to
say this, blond haired, blue eyes man and woman with
blond hair, blue eyed children and a dog and a cat,
and you're still a sinner. And they taken three things

(01:52:19):
and take it out of context to the point that
we've forgotten what sin was about. It's not literally not everybody,
but we took those three things to, oh, well, we
can't vote for for Comra Harris because she supports all
these drugs, and we missed the big picture. We miss

(01:52:40):
the fact that we have a man in office who
wants to be a dictator, who has committed I mean,
he's he's a felon, and he's a liar. Those the
sins him. We made the other three so bad, made
him seem so terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
Yeah, and now we have so.

Speaker 5 (01:53:00):
An office who doesn't care about anything on anybody but
money and power.

Speaker 4 (01:53:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
And you know what, I'm gonna have to stop right
there because we're just about out of time, but I
do thank you for your call and thank you for
sharing your thoughts with us.

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
I want to thank everybody that was a part of
the show today.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
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