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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are Indianapolis, discussing the issues that matter to you and
keeping you informed with what's happening in and around Indy.
It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby, brought to you by
Child Advocates, a champion for justice, opportunity and well being
for children on Praise Am thirteen ten ninety five point

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Speaker 2 (00:21):
And good afternoon, and welcome to Community Connection.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm Tina Cosby.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Today is Wednesday, December the third of very Happy birthday
to you, Tea Beth.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten is the
number to the show and on the show today, who
else our contributing handlest James Patterson is back with us
for this Chili Chili Wednesday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
James, welcome back, Thank you, Tina, Thank you. Hey guys,
getting ready to say you guys are always up to
something around No.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, you know what glad you asked. We are as
everyone knows. If you don't know, we're in the process
of moving to moving back to our bigger and better location,
old location which has become new.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
And I was just telling you last night, Eric, I
went down there afterward. I think you're going to be
able to go down eventually. You know, the original plan
was that we were to be broadcasting from there today.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, and when I.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Spoke with the engineers, they said, eh, so it happened. Well, yeah,
we may make another run at it tomorrow. But talk
about having something going on. I mean, they spent the
morning packing up my office so that when the movers come,
they'll know, you know, packing, Yeah, you still have.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
To do that. You got the boxes, though, you got
a whole box of boxes.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
I got a whole box and I don't need them
all you think.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I didn't think I needed more than two or three
eric and I got. I got, I put together about six. Yeah,
because they're not that big. They're not the long bankers.
They're they're pretty compact. And I thought they were bigger too,
because I could probably put everything that I need in
one or two of those long ones that we had.

Speaker 7 (02:10):
So the movers will move those for us.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yes, yes, we just have to.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
We have to uh yeah, well yeah, I like your
computer or laptop or whatever. And then we have to
to tag and mark them so that they when they
do move them, they put them in the zones and
the locations where they're supposed to be. And I saw
some of those markings were there already last night. Saw
my new office nice here?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
What about yeah? How about your How.

Speaker 7 (02:38):
Is your office?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's nice?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know, it's not as the first office that I
had at that building.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Oh my goodness, it looked like it was so big.
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I've never seen an office that big. I'm like, this,
would this would go as a as an efficiency or
studio apartment in New.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
York City easily?

Speaker 8 (02:57):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
It was absolutely human. It was huge.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Uh, and you know, I find found a way to
stretch out in all of it, you know. But so
and then the one that when we moved down here
so that that place could be renovated, you know, and
they've been doing this, they've been renovating for two years.
When we moved down here, my office was not as
big as it was at Saint Joseph.

Speaker 9 (03:22):
But big.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I mean, you could have easily put two people in big.
This one is just right, I think, you know, it's
it's not big, it's not mammoth, it's not real real big.
You definitely can't get two folks in there.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
But I like it. I like it.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I think it'll make me a little bit more disciplined,
because you know, the more space you have.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, I was just wondering, Tina about the studio space now,
so sometimes you know, I could come in person, and
I was wondering about your guest area. How had that
change the waiting area for your guests and stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well, that that's the area that's still under construction.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
That because when we go Okay, here's the thing we're
at it.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
We're we've been operating at our temporary location for close
to two years, right, so then when we go back
to our original location, we're going to have to have
some temporary accommodations until the rest.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Of the studios get built out.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I will tell see what I'm saying, So we'll be
we'll be upstairs for a while until all of our
studios and the lobby, all of that area. The ground
floor is still in the it's still not ready to
go in the making. But I will say, we're going
to be in a new new place. Do you remember, Okay,
you remember where the where our old could you used

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to come down all the time. Yeah, James would show
up with his coffee, yeah, ten seconds ago. If he's
not if he's not a lest I don't know who is,
because we us and deadlines, you know, we we know
how to make our deadlines. But it was always so
entertaining because we would say, here comes James, he's coming,

(05:11):
he's got.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
His coffee, he's ready, he's there.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
But that studio is going to be another somebody else's studio.
But if you remember when you first come in the door,
the radio station radio now used to be right that
very Uh, just as soon as you come into the entrance,
that that studio right there.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
That's gonna be ours. Oh okay, yeah, and it's pretty big,
pretty good signed.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
It's bigger. It's bigger than the one back.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, I think so as well. But uh, and so
that's uh, that's that's what that's gonna be. But we
you know, because it's still under construction, we weren't allowed
to go back there, uh you know, to go anywhere
I just saw from a distance, you know, like walking
into the building.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
But so for now we're.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Going to be at our permanent location, in a temporary space.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
That makes sense.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
You're going to have to move a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Then no, no, I won't have to move.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
The engineers will have to move or actually I think
it's going to be as simple as the flip of
a switch or move a button, because yeah, where we're
going to be is in the studios, the studio production areas,
and they can double as radio stations, they can double.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
I kind of understand when you said we're going to
be in our temporary space, so it's just temporary because
they're building around you.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Or help me understand, we're going to be what's called
a production room, which is a temporary space until the
studios get completely built up.

Speaker 10 (06:42):
Okay, okay, gotcha, gotta.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, So I apologize. I was probably thinking too fast
and going too fast, but yeah, so that's where so
Eric and I are going to be probably maybe by
the end of this week, because next week, see where
we're going in shifts. You know, some stations are they're
moving us in today and getting us situated, and then

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the rest of the stations they're moving them in. Yeah, yeah,
they're moving them in next week. But what we don't
want is a traffic jam where everybody comes in at
the same time, because everybody comes in at the same time.
So yeah, that that's uh, that's what we're trying to avoid.
So I suspect today is Wednesday, so probably maybe by

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tomorrow at the earliest, maybe by Friday, we'll be down
there and we'll just be going.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
But we are. It is exciting. It's an exciting time,
very exciting.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
And the crews we didn't realize, or I didn't realize
until the engineers told me.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
They work all three shifts they.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Work, they work the night shift, day shift, so they
they're working like crazy.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
So we're very well.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Like it could be down there tomorrow. We could be, Yeah,
depending on how much they got done.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
It would be my first time, very first.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Time in the building.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Yeah, I've never had a chance to be inside.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Oh my goodness, Eric, So you're gonna this is going
to be really new for you.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
Really new for me completely. I've been in this building.
Oh gosh since nineteen ninety eight, the building new so wow.
Formally in miscommunications so it said.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's gonna be Yeah, indeed, looking forward to it though.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, got a lot of stuff, James. I know you've
got weather. You legitimately got somewhere.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
You know, before we were kind of like, oh, you know,
remember remember those days when we were talking about is warm.
We don't really have them to stalk about his nice.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
We got some stuff to talk about, because not only
do we get snow, but my understanding is we're about
to take a dive, a nose dive in the temperatures
in the next few days, some kind of art well
front that's going across the nation.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it'll pass by sometime overnight. But for today,
we've got another cold day in store for us. As
this little cold tinues, it seems to just want to
continue on without interruption, so we'll let it do its
same for now. And of course, if people can see outside,

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it'll be overcast today as the clouds will dominate throughout
the day, and doubtful you'll see any sunshine, any sun
rays anywhere today or in central Indiana. There is a
chance of some passing snow, as Tina mentioned, snow flurries
later today, later today, yeah, later today.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
Chance chance is passing kind of northeast of US, north
west to northeast, I guess, or northwest to southeast.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
That's probably better. But whether or not we get, you know,
a full fledged snow layer, it remains to be seen.
But we may see some flurries throughout the day and
some light snow showers, I think later this evening. But
you know, whether or not it amounts much remains to

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be seen. I don't think it will. It was twenty
eight degrees as we came on the air today, and
we won't see temperatures rising more than a couple degrees.
Se y'all's coat handy, so more winner for us now.
But hey, we look forward to to rising temperatures, hopefully
next week, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Indeed, indeed, indeed, James just got a whole lot to
catch up on, including some charitable things, and we want
to remind the community about including our own. But we
can go to the phone lines for a bit. Lines
are open three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten.
Three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten. Three one

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seven for eight zero thirteen ten is the number to
the show, so we can.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
We can start off with the phone lines. Let's go
to Collar online one. Laura, go ahead, how are you yay?

Speaker 11 (11:06):
I couldn't beat I couldn't beat anybody getting those tickets
for the Winter Wonderlights.

Speaker 9 (11:10):
But I got in.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
We may we may have another run as those I
don't know, I might ask them see if we can
do another run. I'll see what would be nice I'll
do one more.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I wish you could have won, Laura, I wish you
could have won more. Y Yes, okay, I know your voice.

Speaker 12 (11:32):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (11:32):
Well, so what I'm calling about is a little bit too, folks.
So you heard of the Trump account right where the
billionaire put the money for the the the youth, I
mean not the youth, but the babies born during this
really is during his election period. Here six point two

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billion dollars I believe it was they put into his
It's called the Trump account, and it is to a
certain amount of money is supposed to go to infants
recently born, and so it would either go into like
sort of like a trust fund or either it would
go to a stock thing. So, James, you gotta look

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that up now.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
I heard, yeah, you know what, I heard a little
bit about that. I am trying to look it up there,
you know, Laur. But I did hear a little bit
about that.

Speaker 11 (12:24):
So here tell us, here's the here's the thing about it.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
It's not a new deal. It's not new.

Speaker 11 (12:29):
It's really not new. You know why it's not new
because I worked that. It was called the i D
a Individual Development account. The only difference is now that there,
he didn't have thunders putting money in. The families worked
and contributed their own money, and they were only able
to use the money for three things, again the same

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as his home ownership, returning to school, or entrepreneurship.

Speaker 13 (12:55):
And so.

Speaker 11 (12:57):
It was for a families, adults, parents. And so when
I lived and we worked it here, and then when
I moved to Kentucky, I was still working it. And
I was selected to go in front of Mitch McConnell
to get him to take it to the floor because
we were trying to get it for babies like they
have it now. And he told me he would not

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do it because Hillary Clinton had taken that bill. He
originally wrote the bill. Hillary took it and changed a
few things and put her name in it. And so
now you want to present it to the floor, I'm
not going to do it, he said. And I said, well, sir,
if it was a good bill when you wrote it
for the children, is it not.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Still a good bill for the children.

Speaker 9 (13:37):
And he said he didn't care.

Speaker 11 (13:38):
He wasn't taking it because she put her name on it.

Speaker 14 (13:41):
So it died.

Speaker 11 (13:42):
So I guess Trump found it, changed it to Trump
and got some billionaires to put some money in the thing,
but it's not new. He's trying to make like a
new thing. It's not. It's the individual development account that
he's named the Trump Account, and he's got some millionaires
to put this money in. Now, the family's had three
banks they could choose from that they saved their money

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and the bank would I think it was three times
whatever they saved to help them purchase a home or
own home ownership are entrepreneurships. So it got makes one
of two different little spans, but not that much.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, well, Laura, it's interesting because it said that I
looked it up and who's eligible under this Trump account?
I guess that was put into the One Big Beautiful Bill.
We call it the one Big Ugly Bill over here,
and it says that children children who are US citizens
and who are born between January twenty January first, twenty

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twenty five and January thirty, first, twenty twenty eight are eligible.
And let's see to have a Trump account. According to
a fact sheet from the Department of the Treasury, households
of any income may open an account, and all such
accoun qualify for a one time one thousand dollars contribution
from the US government. Now, when when you headed that

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initiative where you talked to McConnell, Senator McConnell, did you
have an age range, because he changed it in a
beautiful bill from January twenty twenty five to December thirty first.

Speaker 11 (15:23):
That covers him, That covers him, as they said this
morning on the news, that covers him for his next
election time.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
That's why exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what was your
age ring when you presented it to the senator?

Speaker 11 (15:34):
It was newborns uh in just a his Also he
has an income qualification also on there, but infants under
it had and their families had to up, you know,
be under the income qualifications as well.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
What year was that, Laura, that you did?

Speaker 11 (15:54):
Let me see, let me see, let me see.

Speaker 15 (15:55):
Oh, I'm gonna tell my age on here.

Speaker 11 (15:57):
Let me see, uh the twenty early twenties.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Okay, okay, So it was the idea that was way
back when huh.

Speaker 11 (16:07):
Yeah, I came back here to Indianapolis in twenty fifteen,
so it was maybe a year or two before that.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
So the point you wanted to make about the plan, Laura,
was what that you.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
The original idea they had the original idea something like it.

Speaker 11 (16:25):
Yeah, it's not his original ideas. He's trying to strum it.
He just thanks the name to the Trump And are
the kids really gonna be?

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Who's I was going to say? Is this something that money?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Is this something that's starting to get some traction or whatever?
It is just something you wanted to make us work,
because I've not I've not heard much about it.

Speaker 11 (16:46):
Yeah, a billionaire the point two Yeah, billionaires?

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Just how much did they give?

Speaker 4 (16:54):
I think it was six point something billion?

Speaker 13 (16:57):
Think?

Speaker 11 (16:57):
Yeah it was y oh, okay, So that's why children
are really getting it first of all. And then well yeah,
and it's why does it have to be Why isn't
the Trump bill? But so anyway, it's got some sketchy
why they're just wake it up and that people know

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there's nothing new, But we had it right here in Indie, Indianapolis. Uh,
the Bonner Center took it over after I got back
here and ran the idea program. So it's nothing new.
They just changed the name.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, and those millionaires they're trying to curry favor, no
doubt or billionaires or whoever.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, I mean that that's just a straight buy off.
I mean you know that's yeah, Yeah, they're yeah, they're
not interested in children.

Speaker 13 (17:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (17:52):
Ms mccona has retired now, but I know he's at
home kicking his feet because if he wouldn't present it
to the House for it because Hillary had change something and.

Speaker 12 (18:01):
Put on it.

Speaker 11 (18:02):
I know.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah, And Tina asks your question, Yeah, he probably is. Laura,
ask your question about is it getting traction. They can't
even they can't even you know, begin get making financial
contributions families until July fourth, twenty twenty sixth, So July fourth,
next year, families can open a Trump account beginning in

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early twenty twenty six I can start making financial contributions
July fourth, Joy, guess what July fourth, twenty twenty sixth
is the country's and fiftieth Yeah, anniversary. So he's trying
to do this for publicity for himself. It ain't got
nothing to do with the with the children.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
If anybody, if anybody on this planet has heard of
Donald Trump in the last fifteen to twenty years and
puts money on an accountless his name on it, and
put your money in account with oh my goodness, you

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deserve what you get. You should run the other way.
You should avoid that like the plague. He is a
confidence man.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
It's all. It is all a grift, I would think.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
And for the billionaires who dropped that money in there,
then I'm like, y'all, there's something else going on.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
So I just wanted to because of social media they
going crazy about it.

Speaker 11 (19:31):
But really you have.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Very good point. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 13 (19:41):
What do you have?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
What'd you find?

Speaker 15 (19:42):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
What'd you find?

Speaker 10 (19:43):
Eric?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
I found something here that the money the money is
invested in the stock market by private and the child
can access the funds when they turn eighteen.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Uh yeah, not until not until.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
The parents and older children can also open account. This
isn't but they won't get that. They won't get the
one thousand dollars bonus age.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, James.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Well and excluding the government's one thousand dollars donation, toll
of five thousand per child by the family can be
deposited in an account each year. Employers can't contribute up
to twenty five hundred per year. So, like Eric said,
it's it's like a It's a four one K for children,

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is what it is.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, with Trump's name on it.

Speaker 16 (20:38):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Therefore, if his name is on it and it involves
your hard earned money and handing it over to whatever
that enterprise is. Go for it, okay, what you will,
because you simply have not been listening to I mean,
I don't know. I always think that there's another there's
another side to that, you know, everything else seems to

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be on the up and up. But but I'm glad
she brought that up because I had not heard much
about it, heard anything about it.

Speaker 10 (21:08):
Really.

Speaker 16 (21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah, I heard about it, but I didn't delve into it.
So I'm glad that Laura called to and you know
kind of uh told us about the details.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, yeah, the details.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Indeed, James yesterday was yeah, yesterday, the well yesterday month yesterday.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, the the.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Over at the state house, mm hmm, yeah, the the protests,
the protest movement. You know, so many different organizations are
banding together. Regarding the redistricting. A lot of people are
calling it just plain and simple racial jerrymandering. They're not redrawing,
they're not redistricting jerrymandering and blatantly so so yeah, yeah, well.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
I thought about that. Are you know, as I've said,
taxation without representation, and I also I believe that it's uh,
it's it's racially because the map, Yeah, the map that
they put out that they're that they're voting on what's

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Marion County into four.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yes, Indianapolis and Marion County into four. Somebody called it
unigo two point oh?

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Who called it that? Yesterday? I forget who it was.
They called it two point oh. Uh, you know it's
back is back.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
The go ahead to Tina No No, I just yeah.
The goose neck that's what I'm calling the the way
they split up Andre Carson's uh district. Uh, it's a
goose neck.

Speaker 14 (22:57):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
And I'll and I'll bring that up and I'll i'll
comment on that as we talk about it is because
the part of Marion County that's carved out, it justs
to the south and includes counties that people in Marion
County don't know, they don't live next to, they don't

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work with, They they've.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
Never, you know, had any.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Day to day interaction with the people that they have
drawn the lines for people in Marion County to be with.
And it's simply that's why it's racial gare mandering, because
what it does is it splits the black and brown
vote and the the white and Latino and Asian voters

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who have voted for Democrats in Marion County. So it's
whether they want to say that it's not racial. It's
definitely racial based upon the way they've drawn those maps.
And I am courage everyone to go to I think
the Statehouse website if you haven't seen it already, and

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look at that or wherever you can go and look
at that map, because it is racially jerrymandered.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, not re drawn, racially gerrymander now here. Here's here's
where strategy comes in. I think the Senate didn't care
what what kind of map that the House drew. The
Senate says, there is no appetite, there are no votes
for us to go along with that.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Where where do you think it goes from here? James?

Speaker 4 (24:37):
It's sapsation without representation.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, that's exactly what I was looking up.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
And they're just I tell you that there are there,
there are, there are senators in Indiana. There are legislators,
unfortunately not in the House but in the Senate who uh.

Speaker 17 (24:56):
They just believe that that.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
The maps which were to meet where jerry mandered that
they did after the twenty twenty census. They believe that
those maps they call them fair, and I mean that's
why the Upper Chamber is they believe in to an extent. Yeah,
we have the advantage, but at least we're going to
be fair. And this goes beyond fairness. And so what

(25:21):
do I think? I think what I looked up was,
according to the director of the Marion County Election Board,
in twenty twenty four, that was layer more than three
hundred and fifty thousand people in Marion County, the state's
largest county, cast their ballots. Three hundred and fifty thousand people,
which they have cut up into four different slices. Y'all,

(25:44):
that turned out to be fifty five point four percent
of the registered voters in Marion County cast their ballots
in twenty twenty four. In Marion County, specifically, two hundred
and twenty one thousand, seven hundred and one, seven hundred
nineteen voters voted for Vice President Kamala Harris in the

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twenty twenty four election. That was sixty two point five
to seven percent. Representative Andre Carson, a Democrat, received one
hundred and eighty nine hundred and eighty seven votes sixty
eight point three percent of those who voted in his election.
Representative Frank Mervan received one hundred and seventy two four

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hundred and sixty seven votes fifty three point four percent
up in the Lake County Gary area in the twenty
twenty four election. I'm telling you that it's not only
breaking up, tearing up, and carrying down Democratic voters, which
are at least forty to four to forty five percent

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of the vote, people say as high as forty seven.
But it is it is dispersing and depressing the uh,
the the non white vote or the minority vote in
Marion County, YEP.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, my, And I'm just wondering what this strategy is
going to amount to in terms of getting it over
the finish line, because they're gonna you see what I'm
saying now, they they've they've they've they've revealed what they
want to do, they revealed the map, you know all
of that other stuff. This is the House the Senate
has to say, Okay, we'll do it. Doesn't look like

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that's gonna happen. So that's what I'm saying. I wonder what,
you know, what the next move is going to be
now that they have shown their hands, so to speak,
What is the next move going to be have have
more in the Senate, come over to the other side,
or have more in the Senate. Uh said, Hey, I'm
gonna I really don't like this. I'm going to join
those who are standing against it or is it? Is
it going to be a stalemen. That's That's what I'm

(27:52):
most curious about. Because the one thing we do know
for sure, uh, is that the lawsuits are waiting. They're
just waiting to drop.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Them out off at the court.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
If if any of this goes forward in any direction,
that uh that that it shouldn't so to speak.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
So uh, we're yeah, but well.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
One person, Indiana State Senator Michael is it Boeck. Bocheck
said Friday, he.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Was on national news. He was on some national show
last night, right, was he? Yeah, he was.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
He was either on CNN or MSNBC because uh, and
and he spoke very well, uh and stayed away from
the partisan stuff and just stayed on point that there
you know.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
He his point basically was why we don't need to
do this? You know, why do we need it?

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Is because President Trump used a slur for for for
people with intellectual disabilities to describe Democratic Minnesota Governor Tim Walks,
who was a former vice presidental presidential candidate. And I
think the senator has a relative. It's not his daughter
or something.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Who is Oh that's what that was. Yeah, yeah, well yeah.
He also called elon uh omar U garbage.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
That Yeah, yeah, I didn't hear that, but I you know,
let me, I'll get the quote for you. Okay, that
is not surprising.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
But you know what what's not what really isn't surprising
is there are probably people that would love to call
this show and say, well, yeah, if he said that,
she probably is. And you guys are just picking on Trump,
you know, and that's the mindset.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
That because yeah, yeah, because he's blindly following him.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, yes, but I'm gonna look a couple of those.
I'm find the exact quote. We're gonna take a break.
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
M Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection
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Speaker 2 (30:22):
And we're back with Community Connection James Patterson with us
Eric Garnes of course here with US today and lines
are open three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten
for whatever may be on your mind. Three one seven
four eight zero thirteen ten. This is from NBC News, James,
I'm going to read it to you. President Donald Trump

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on Tuesday ripped Representative Elan Omar, a Democrat from Minnesota,
as garbage and said Somali's should go back to where
they came from, in disparaging remarks that have been strongly
criticized by local leaders in Minnesota. This is a quote
from the forty seventh president United States. I don't want
them in our country.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Okay, somebody will say, oh, that's not politically correct.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I don't care. I don't want them in our country.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Their country is no good for a reason, said Trump,
who has a history of disparaging African people and migrant communities.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
So again, not called under the carpet.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I mean, he has made one vile, ridiculously statement after
another over the years, and he's never called out for it.
He's never called out for it. Elon Omar has just
as much right to be here as he does, and
his family.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Sip father came or his grandfather came from Germany. Yeah,
I was an immigrant. He's from an immigrant family, but
I guess the right kind of immigrant family.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Has to be the right kind.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
And as far as what's going on here in Indiana,
I just wonder if the stalemate is going to be
reached again, because once the House can you know, passes
all these maps, they.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Have to hand it over to the Senate, right.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
It's correct, Okay, then the Senate.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Decides the Senate has already how many more times does
the Senate have to say no?

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yea's right. Absolutely. The last report was that they still
don't have enough votes to cast. We have people coming
out publicly saying they won't vote to pass it, so uh,
you know, yeah, we'll leave it there.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, yeah, But this is all posturing for the king,
you know, for their their anointed king. This is all
posturing because uh, Braun, and I guess the House Republicans
simply do not have the spine to say no, much
like the Senate. We were talking about the the senator,

(32:51):
the state senator from Indiana who was making his rounds
on a lot of the national news organizations.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
So you know, and the thing is too, Tina, this
is mid day redistricting and there's been arguments that the
Indiana Constitution requires the districting to occur after the census
at the end of the decade. And secondly, if this

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bill passes, which like you said, is going to face
a florry of lawsuits if it did. But I think
some of the senator senators at least have expressed this
they don't feel it's fair because you're just changing Congress Okay,
the Andre Carson congressman Congress. That does not change the
state legislative districts or any other districts. It's just so

(33:43):
that's really targeting. And to me, like I said, it's
it's it's uh, it's it's represent taxation without representation for
all people who don't vote for the majority Republican state
legislature or state of the Congress. But it also envelops
the race card in there because you're denying what over

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three hundred and thirty thousand black citizens in Marion County
and a significant number in Lake County. I don't have
the exact number, you know, their voice before the Speaker
of the Indiana House, Todd Houston, to say, well, they'll
be represented, No, they don't. They're not the representative representatives

(34:30):
that we the people want or choose.

Speaker 10 (34:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
The bottom line though, that and I don't want to
get too far away from this. Trump wants to stack
the deck in his favor and he's leaning on his
fellow Republicans to help him do so. We all see
what state our country is in right now. We all
go to the grocery store and come out crying a
lot of times because prices are so high.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
We all know what that administration of.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
People are living in fear, literally living in fear of
immigration and ice raids and things of that nature. National
Guard troops are walking on the streets assaulting. This is
what a Trump administration has given us over the past
twelve months since he's been in office.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Now he wants to remain in office.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
So in order to do so, he has to cheat,
and he's asking Republicans to help him cheat. And all
the rationalization don't get too far away from the facts.
The fact of the matter is they wouldn't even be
thinking of doing this if Trump didn't ask him to,
if Trump wasn't leaning on them to do so.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
So I don't want to get too far off the
beaten path.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
The bottom line is, is Indiana going to help him
cheat like Texas dead or are they not?

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Is you know, that's the bottom line.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
And if you want him to cheat and you want
him to stay in power and to hang on to
things a lot longer without being challenged and everything else,
then by all means, go ahead, don't call you, don't
call your representative, don't go down there in march with
with with the protesters, don't do anything.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Just sit back.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Because people have a way of saying, eye phone with
all that. That don't affect me. That's that's Washington DC,
Tina White, You talking about what's gonna.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Because it's here. What really, what we could do here
or could not do here directly impacts Washington, DC, which
directly impacts you.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Connect Connect the dots, folks, Connect the dots. I'm not
gonna getmired in all of the minute, you know, all
of the tiny tiny details, not to say that they're
not and they're good.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
And James Jude brilliantly, brilliantly gave.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
The numbers and crunch those and everything else. But the
bottom line is, is Indiana gonna help him cheat or not?
Are we gonna allow our elected officials help him cheat
or not? And that's what common Cause Mad voters and
all of the others. That's what they're out there doing.
That's what they're asking you to do by sit there,
hold your phone and place a call to Rod Bray

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and keep the heat on. That's what they're asking us
to do.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
To keep the heat on so that Trump cannot stack
the deck in his favor so that he can do
more damage.

Speaker 17 (37:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I can't make it. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
No, you can't make this up, Tina. You can't make
this up. You said it right that And we got
to remember you remember that rally that you just when
you alluded to when we first start talking about this,
the rally at the State House.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, the reason I didn't know there's something every day
down there, so as I was getting confused about with
But that's good though. They're keeping the heat on because
exactly and they and they break it down if you
read their signs.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
He's not a king. You know a lot of their
signs of the protest and things of that nature.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
They keep it playing and make it simple. He wants
to cheat and he doesn't care who he has to
throw under the bus. And if you vote, it's safer
it like you say, James, taxation without representation.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
You know what that means.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
You're paying taxes, but nobody gives a bleep about what
you think and what you want to happen.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Just give us your mondney and shut up. That's taxation
without representation. That's exactly what that is. Give me your money,
give me your money. Let me have your money. I'm
gonna stay up here in this office and whatever. Oh
you want what?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
No, give me, give me some more money, Give me
some more money. Keep working and give me some more
of that check of yours.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Give it to me. No, no, no, you don't know.
I'm not doing that. No, no, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
How many of you That's what taxation without representation is
in its purest, simplest form.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
That's what's going on. That's what your.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Elected officials here at the state House are trying to
do as we speak.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
That's what the resistance is about. Anyway. Yeah, I don't know, James.
I I I'm so frustrated with people saying things like.

Speaker 10 (38:50):
It doesn't because what I was.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Gonna say was you brilliantly alluded to that rally that
shows people it was on all the local stations. What
the majority of Hoosiers whatever their color, black, white, brown, tan, pink,
whatever the In polls, y'all, in polls, the majority of

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of Hoosiers of Indiana residents do not want this. They
don't want it. They know that it's unfair, these maps
that they have drawn, with the Gooseneck splitting in county
into force license to dilute the vote of racial minorities.

Speaker 17 (39:31):
That's what it's about for Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Shame shame on him, Shame on them for doing that,
and for saying that we want Hoosiers to have a
fair fair What.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
That's the governor talking about?

Speaker 12 (39:44):
Fair?

Speaker 4 (39:45):
He said fair maps in Washington, d C. Well, it
ain't fair maps for Hoosiers who want their votes represented.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
That's not what they're voting, right Indiana GOP.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
It ain't fair.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
That's not fair map.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I hope they I hope all of them take a bounce.

Speaker 17 (40:02):
I do.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
I hope they all all of the ones that are
standing up there, because Donald Trump is not going to
be around forever. He's not going to be in office forever.
He's not gonna be able to threaten you forever. But
you jumped on that train, so you know there you
go anyway, let's go back to the phone line three one, seven, four, eight, zero,
thirteen ten and James, thank you for that that breakdown
because of such a such an analyst. You are a

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contributing analyst. But the breakdown numbers don't lie, and you
you know you shared them. And that's that's very good,
very good point. Frank, go ahead, how are you.

Speaker 9 (40:33):
I'm going to find miss Tino and you and James
and mister Garrett Garrett, Eric, thank you doing great, don't yes, sir,
and I just worked out got two points here. You know,
I'm prett I'm pretty quick by my uh banking and
talking number one. I've never heard anyone say maybe I
wasn't listening at the time, but why you moving from

(40:56):
the circle back to Saint Joseph. I've never heard that.

Speaker 13 (40:59):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (41:01):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
It was a business transaction.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Our parent company bought added to our stations that we
had down at the other place, and we bought all
of these stations here uh at the at the mus
building and UH the building itself eventually went up for
sale and then went to the highest bidder. UH, and
so the the highest bidder bought it, and so we

(41:25):
have we still have the stations Uh, but we're gonna,
you know, we're gonna take our stations, our new stations
and our existing stations, uh back to our new place
which is larger now and renovated and and all the
other stuff. So just business dealings. Yeah, just business dealings.

Speaker 9 (41:42):
Yeah, Okay, Okay, that's no.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
It's nothing. It's nothing major.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
It's just we had there's somebody else that owns the building,
and uh we still have that building down there.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
So we're gonna, we're gonna we're all gonna be one
big happy fan. We're gonna be together down at the
new place.

Speaker 9 (41:59):
Yeah, okay, redistrict and uh, yeah, it's one. I mean
you said it well, Mistine. I mean I'm telling you,
I mean, anybody that's got any kind of knowledge of
great school knowledge should understand what you just said. Disagreements
ago about that whole situation there. Uh, And my point

(42:20):
of it is, I'm gonna give you I'm just gonna
give you my point of it. Uh, I just don't
add on to it what you what you say and now,
uh is that they want Andre Coss out of Indiana.
In Annapolis, they want him out of there. Tony Kass
talks about him every day.

Speaker 11 (42:40):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (42:41):
He talks about him every.

Speaker 14 (42:42):
Day on.

Speaker 9 (42:45):
Ninety three point one. And and here's another person that
I want heard. He's been pretty quiet about it too.
Get called your so often, and he ran against uh
Andre Uh. I don't know how many times, but I
know he ran against him. But he been been pretty
quiet about his own situation. I know I knew he glad.

(43:09):
I knew he hoping that it happened that he get
Andre out of there. So I'm just saying I'm not
gonna call his name. I think everybody knows who I'm
talking about. But so I'm just saying that that's the
whole purpose of it right there, to get Andrea out
of there on the n LS scene and get that
guy out off bck Gary. So no blacks would have

(43:30):
representation here in the state of in there.

Speaker 10 (43:32):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (43:33):
So that's my take on it. And so all this
other stuff's been added to it, and why this and
why that? No, it just same one simple answer. We
want him out of there. So so okay, thank y'all,
and I enjoy your program, So keep it up, miss

(43:53):
sen acause you hit it. You had a good note
world ago.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Okay, thank you, Frank. I appreciate your call, but yeah,
it's it's it's just frustrating. But you know the good
thing though, James and Eric, is that the resistance is building.
And Uh, these people who were duly elected by people
who put them there to represent them and to do
as they ask and what the majority of them want

(44:18):
to do, who are just turning a blind ear, you know,
a blind eye, deaf ear whatever. They're just turning their
backs on their voters. Uh, to please one person, They're
turning their backs on the voters, the people who put
them there. They're they've forgotten who they represent.

Speaker 11 (44:32):
James, Yeah, they have.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
And for the governor and the Indiana GOP to say,
we're doing this to have fair maps in Washington, like
you said, it's to theirs for their allegiance to Donald Trump.
But what about Hoosiers, they are not They they would
not have any The Hoosiers in Big County, the Indiana's
most populous county, the biggest one, would have no representation, none, zero.

(45:04):
And then yeah, and then Lake County, which is you know,
really outside of the huge Chicago metroplex, they would have
no representation. They have mooped Lake County with Starr County
to the southeast, Marshall, Pulaski, Fulton Cast, Miami, and Wabash,

(45:30):
almost all the way across the state. These are very,
very steward and just it's unsensical drawn maps to fit
a gerrymandered purpose.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, and then after you do it, you gaslight folks,
don't You don't say well, Trump said jump.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
And we said okay, how high.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
You don't say that, You say this is for you,
This is for your own good, eat your vegetables, so
to speak.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
You know, no, no, no, no, no, no. Phone lines
are full.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
So before we take another call, let's let's take a break.
In that way, we can get to more calls and
we'll have more time, so we'll be yeah, hang in there,
you guys, we'll be right back to go down the
phone list.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
We'll be back.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
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Speaker 2 (46:58):
We're back with Community Connection, cleared those commercials, James and Eric,
and we're ready to go. Phone lines are absolutely full.
So we got a lot, a lot of folks that
have a lot on their mind wanting to weigh in.
So let's start.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Let's go back to the phone lines. Let's see do
do do do do? Henry go ahead? How are you
Henry online?

Speaker 16 (47:19):
One?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Go ahead?

Speaker 18 (47:20):
Well, I can, I can, great, great, I'm in traffic,
but I'll be real breeze. I want to say something
about Trump. In twenty sixteen, I wrote about him when
he went into office and he didn't care then, uh,

(47:41):
and he doesn't care now, and he's in it for hisself. Basically,
he studied Hitler. His former wife said that he used
to read at night. He's a dictator. He wants to
take over. He's in control, but he's not because God's
in control. So that's why I said a while back,

(48:03):
if you remember, if you probably don't. You talk to
so many people. But God's got out back anyway. But
we're getting a little bit perturbed and we're getting inpatient,
including myself. But I want to say one thing and
I'll leave you guys with this my podcast, right now
is about voting, so you can get on there and
talk about voting. That's what's so important. I want to

(48:25):
truly get you to know it is your obligation to vote.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Absolutely.

Speaker 18 (48:30):
My forefathers died so you can have the right to vote.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Now.

Speaker 18 (48:34):
The permiary election is the most important election of all
because it actually sets you up for the November election.
And the only reason that I'm saying this is because
it's so important.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
To vote now.

Speaker 18 (48:47):
Yes, we have to get out and we have to
be quit. We need to be quit, quit being lazy.
You know, it doesn't take a lot. If you can't
get out there, you can get you can get that ballot.
That's what we did last year. We got the ballot
and we voted. That's all I want to say.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
All right, okay, doing well and uh, thank you hopeful.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
All right, well but you you keep up your good
work as well, Henry, because you got a great message there.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yes, and thank you indeed.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Uh three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten three
one seven eight zero thirteen ten.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Let's go back to the phone lines. Uh evangelist? Is
that is that the caller's name? Yeah? Yes, go ahead,
How are you okay?

Speaker 9 (49:30):
Tana?

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 19 (49:31):
I was Hey, Tina, I just want to talk real
quick about uh, the march. I don't know if they
call them mark or whatever they call it, but I
was down there Monday at the State Office build the
State House, uh huh, and I just wanted to say this, Tina.

Speaker 9 (49:50):
You know all about Republicans in there, all that, you.

Speaker 19 (49:55):
Know, all that stopped to stand up just say no.
You know the things they were yelling at and yelling
to them it is outside yelling to the inside.

Speaker 9 (50:06):
You know, those people sat there with stone faces.

Speaker 19 (50:11):
I mean, they acting like we were not seeing anything outside.

Speaker 9 (50:14):
They were not paying us no attention.

Speaker 19 (50:17):
They sat there like they were like, we've already made
up our minds utility companies do. When we go to
those utility companies and voice or our opinions about what's
going on, they sit there too and act like they
don't hear us talking to them.

Speaker 9 (50:32):
And that is the same way they acted down in
that chamber that day.

Speaker 19 (50:37):
I don't care how many Democrats got up there and
told them why this should not be happening, even though
they called their special session on the day that they
were not even supposed to be insects and they supposed
to be on break and they caused this special session
to do out this damage that Donald Trump wants them
to do. And okay, leave our Brian, we want to

(50:58):
leave him out, but he's just a guilty. And the
point that I'm making is they don't care.

Speaker 20 (51:04):
Or learn about us, and we gotta stop saying, uh,
we gotta stop saying that they want to redistrict read district.
They want to keep this racism going that Indiana has
been a part of for century, for centuries, even when
they came to it, took away doctor want Ruther King,
Indiana Avenue, College Avenue, all that stuff they take from us,

(51:28):
they turn around and they want to now they want
to take our voices. They want to take our money
and and sight as our voices, like you said earlier.
And I think it's wrong because we don't. You can
count so many black people that were downtown on Monday
on one.

Speaker 19 (51:44):
Hand, yeah, on one hand, basically went down there fight
for us and then their voices be there. But we
can't go down and fight for ourselves.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Yeah, thank you, and uh, you know, uh, James and Eric.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
One side of that, uh, and another side of that
is that black folks are saying they didn't create the mess.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
You know, let let them work that, you know, let
them fix it.

Speaker 13 (52:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
There's another point of view that if uh, you know, black,
too many blacks get down there, then they're going to be.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Arrested or mistreated or what have you.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I think, you know, all of those are I I
understand what people are saying in those those responses as
to why there aren't more black people there. But you know,
when when it's all said and done there, everybody's going
to have to come together because that's what it's going
to take. So I think right now, I don't know
why more blacks are not. I mean I've heard all

(52:41):
of these different reasons, none of which I can verify
or what have you. I mean, this is just what
people have said in talking uh so, But at some
point in time it's going to have to be everybody
it is, because that's what's going to take.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
James, are you there with us?

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Yeah? I can, Yeah, I weren't coming on what you
said and what Evangelis said. And Henry he had a
good point about the voting. At some point, people are
gonna have to to go back to what was done
before them by their forefathers and stand up for them themselves.

(53:19):
I mean, despite the gains they've made, it's not gonna
be enough because they're going to try to come back
and take what gains other people have made for them.
And they'll find that out. And just real quick, because
I know your phone lines are full. I mentioned what
Frank Mervan's what they want to do with his district

(53:40):
up there with all of those Indiana North central counties,
Marion County which they want to split into four. Marion County,
the northwest part, which has a lot of multicultural a
lot of African Americans and other peoples, is tied in
in this map with Morgan Brown, Jackson, Laurene Washington, Orange, Crawford, Floyd, Clark, Scott,

(54:07):
you know those counties TEENA, it goes straight down to
the south. So that's just a sliver of Man County.
They want taxation without representation. They want us to be
tied in with the people who are on the border
with Kentucky over one hundred and fifty miles away.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Okay, that's the absurdity of the map. That's the absurdity
of re drawing. Yeah, that's how absurd it all is. Indeed, indeed,
counselor counselor Oliver go ahead, how are you.

Speaker 16 (54:40):
Well, just have to know that's hit you and James. James,
thank you so much to going about that map. I
just attended a gagment with my neighbors and France and
Jueles Finner and they was one of the topics. The
only topic.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Oh yeah, that.

Speaker 16 (54:56):
Would traditionally action to that and the term racist map
that this is something that looks similar. I would say
if I could say that doing reconstruction right, the Civil War,
freedom and all that, then we're gonna come up with

(55:17):
the black colts they somebody did of the Black cross right,
the black coats, So you draw up laws and things
like that to minimize their input or progress. And the
Indiana map, No, not in had a map. The proposed
map that they think they're gonna present represents something they

(55:39):
were presented in eighteen seventy five by Frederid Johnson, were
the president at the time. You know, the African Americans
of African descent were called in Mary County, Indianapolis, and
those in Northwest Indiana and immigrants et cetera, et cetera,

(56:00):
uh eliminated from being represented in Congress. That's what I'm
looking at.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Well, that's what James has explained.

Speaker 16 (56:12):
During reconstructing the black coat.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
That's that's what they want.

Speaker 16 (56:15):
They don't wear hood, did not wear hood.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Well yeah, but they know they wear they wed, they
wear red baseball caps.

Speaker 16 (56:24):
America represented, you not be represented in Congress in Indiana
that African Americans. They're currently holds one of those seats.
So this meth as you pointed out, James, I'm looking
right at it. I mean, it's embarrassing and it's a disgrace.

Speaker 14 (56:42):
It is.

Speaker 16 (56:42):
It is in the West Southern Park, southwest part of
Mary County over to Morgan, Brown Lord, Jackson, Borne, Washington,
Scott Park, Florid, Crawford and Harrison on the Ohio River,
Lake County Order Star Pulaski, Marshall, full Glass, Miami and Walbash.

(57:07):
Do you liminate participations, yes, representations someone to be a boy,
you gotta win because but you have a voice there. Yeah,
they've taken the boys away just like they did in
eighteen sixty six, sixty seven, sixty eight on it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Yeah, and you know, and Counselor Oliver, thank you, yeah,
thank you for that because you and James have underscored
a history lesson that we all need to revisit it.

Speaker 16 (57:36):
That's great, you'll just keep on them this right.

Speaker 12 (57:38):
And thanks?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Okay, all righty, thank you counselor former counselor Oliver. But uh,
you know, this is what they want to do. This
is what they're you know a lot. Yeah, people talk
about dog whistles and cold and what have you.

Speaker 14 (57:52):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
I don't think there's anything disguised anymore.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
I mean the red hat make America great Again? And yeah,
that's that's kind of.

Speaker 14 (57:59):
What that is.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
So no, they're not disguising their racism.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
No, no, not at all, not at all.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Uh three one, seven, zero, thirteen ten. Let's go back
to the phone lines. Jeff online four go ahead.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
How are you?

Speaker 10 (58:11):
Hey?

Speaker 13 (58:11):
Happy?

Speaker 12 (58:11):
Ways?

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Everybody happy Wednesday?

Speaker 10 (58:13):
Hey Jeff, Happy Wednesday. And I'm all on the I
don't know who that sister was. She was on a
Channel four Fox fifty nine. She called those guys. I said, no, man,
you're just trying to look a black boat. That's all
you're doing. I can't think of that represent his name.
But you know, I'm gonna say one more time, I
don't care who gets a matter of st black women
did your part in twenty twenty four, we did her part,

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the ninety three percent. All right, we know what the
brothers are. They took called up in the Pacers and
the Colts. So I'm sorry, I don't care who gets
upset her man, but black women just stepping up to
the plate. James, you're a veteran like me. We got
we got a draft dodger in a White house, and
we got this drunk and rapist as our Secretary of
Defense and these illegal strikes going on. James, you you

(59:01):
know we took an over for the Constitution, did we noted?

Speaker 9 (59:04):
We did?

Speaker 10 (59:05):
And only to this Constitution, to the Constitution, not to
not to a king or a dictator, but to the Constitution.
And Pete Hexach, this public drunk and who cheats on
all three of us wide, cheated on him just like
his buddy uh in the president.

Speaker 13 (59:21):
It now, what is it?

Speaker 15 (59:22):
Now?

Speaker 10 (59:22):
Only Congress can declare war and it's that right, James,
That's right, okay, So that's out the question. And only
then because you got the War Powers Act that is
only in an emergencys with the president can basically take
upon himself that has not been enacted. So what are
we doing shoot these boats out of the water. It's murder.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
It's the only extra judiciary extra judiciary killing?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
What they so let me ask Let me ask you,
James and Jeff, what what you know is this investigation
into that continues? What about the one who carried out
the orders?

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Are that?

Speaker 10 (01:00:05):
Well, I'm gonna tell you some very exit very be
killed because this abro a bradle. I'm gonna get to
Abra Halsey to the brother, the black guy, Admiral Bradley
is a Navy seal. How would look Well, you know,
we had those senators who said you could disobey.

Speaker 14 (01:00:19):
An illegal order.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Remember that, James, Yeah, remember he threatened the FBI with them.
Jeff and I think the word I want to use
is extra Let me correct myself. Extra judicial killing. I
think that's the right phrase. That's what they're doing here.
Extra judicial killings. Go ahead.

Speaker 10 (01:00:38):
And first of all, let me get back up a
little bit. He said, this is about Drey said, these
guys are drug runners. Trump just parted one of the
biggest drug dealers in this hemisphere, the president.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
They do it.

Speaker 10 (01:00:50):
Yeah, Oh, these guys are bringing drugs into the country.
Were killing them, and yet we pardon the biggest, one
of the biggest drug dealers in this hemistry of course.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Okay, so all right, okay, I get it, I know, yeah,
claiming that they're drug votes and Jeff, I don't want
you to lose this point that uh Pete, he says
the Defense secretary was in the room. Okay, no liar,
he's a pathlon. He's trying to throw it off on Bradley.

Speaker 10 (01:01:24):
Him.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Yeah, when he was in the room. So he's a
defense he was. It's on him. Okay, he's the one
that gave him direction.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
And not only was he in the room, they have
him on videotape saying.

Speaker 10 (01:01:39):
Fox knew that he was on He's a public, he's
a public drunk and and a liar. And you don't
want to throw the Navy seals under the bus. Pet
You don't want to, James, can we we know about
the Navy seals, right, they're tough. You don't want to
mess with Pete haggsy And you throw Admiral who who's

(01:01:59):
the Navy still and you're gonna put the You're gonna
pass the buck to him, yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:02:03):
Uh uh he will.

Speaker 10 (01:02:05):
I'm gonna tell you something not a good idea, but
I cainta said.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
It was too many people involved in that operation all
the way down the line, and somebody ain't gonna lie
all the way. All of them ain' gonna lie all
the way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I mean, heck said the biggest the biggest piece of evidence,
uh is him himself in his own words, where he
said on videotape, I knew of every single I mean,
they played it. I don't know how many times this
morning on all of the shows, his own words gotten.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
So he's he's he's toast, he's done. If they.

Speaker 10 (01:02:39):
Yeah, it's just a matter to and the reason they're
going out to Venezuela has nothing to do with drugs.
You know what it's really all about. Regime change.

Speaker 7 (01:02:47):
No oil.

Speaker 13 (01:02:50):
Oil that you that you they.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Want that to because I heard that Columbia so far
more drug drugs Lombia ben Venezuela.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Yeah, indeed, right, but he wan oil they got the third.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Or they're in the top five oil deposits in the world.

Speaker 10 (01:03:10):
Yeah, well, I'm gonna you just respond to that system
to hang up after this, why black folks ain't shown
up because we did our part. So you know the
reason we're in the jam right now, James, though you're
gonna get upset with me, but I'm going to say Latinos, Arabs, Asians,
white women, and union workers, they're the ones that put
Donald Trump into the White House because their anti blackness

(01:03:32):
overrided your self preservation a better judgment, all right, So
now you deal with your consequences of both people. You know,
the leopard will eat your face. I know you heard
that term be four you the leopard eating your face.
That's what we got right now. So yeah, you know, no,
that's why the black folks we did our part. We
know we're trying to getting beat up us.

Speaker 13 (01:03:52):
Some of us.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Could have done whole lot.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
They could have did better.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Henry was absolutely correct.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
He was could have wanted themselves because it could have
wanted themselves. We could have wanted ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Too many of us stayed home, Jeff.

Speaker 10 (01:04:06):
Too many of the state, these black men have been
listening to the stoopid dog.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
I mean, you know, uh.

Speaker 10 (01:04:17):
I called it negres I did take it back.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Okay, we're good, We're good, all right, thank you, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
I appreciate, but uh, you know, all even all of
the races and ethnicities that that Jeff named, uh, we
still could have had it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
We we we had just vot we had the capacity
to put her over ourselves, one behind him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
We were we were just too replacing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
We were And I'm not saying it was all us,
because but he and I think, as you and I
were talking about it, even half of us that stayed home,
half of the registered not just black, half of the
registered Democrats that stayed home, even half would have shown up.
That would have gotten her over the top. That would
have over the top. So you know Jeff's talking what
Jeff is talking about in some sense, you know that

(01:05:04):
I understand what he's saying. But you know, when you
look at it collectively and as a whole, Yeah, there
we go. Pierre on line five, go ahead, How are you.

Speaker 12 (01:05:16):
Good? Afternoon? Teenage James and Eric h just real quickly.
China sends more drug making equipment and chemicals in the
United States than any country in the world. But we're

(01:05:37):
not blowing up Chinese boats. But yeah, I can check that,
but any rate, No, I wanted to call in and
respond to what Frank said because he was referring to
me when he was talking about redistricting, and he said,
I was. I know he was referring to me that
I was being quiet and talked about how many times

(01:05:59):
I'd run against Andre and you know, I guess he
was trying to say that I was happy or satisfied
about it, and that's why I was being quiet about it. No,
I've been I haven't been calling into the radio station,
and I've been kind of quiet because I'm dealing with
a federal age discrimination suit where I believe the magistrate

(01:06:26):
actually helped the defense out, and the federal judge that's
the case is assigned to Judge Barker. I believe she's
a lead, and I don't believe she's quite on the job.
So I've been dealing with that. So I haven't called
in to talk about anything going on with the redistrict y.
I know what they're doing is they're split in Indianapolis

(01:06:49):
four ways or Marion County four ways, and that need
not be good because you're jumping a whole lot of
Democratic votes in the Republican areas where normally a sixty
sixty forty or whatever, and with the way people angry now,

(01:07:09):
we may be able to gain a number of seeds.
I would suspect wherever and great runs. He's gonna garner
a lot of votes, so he may be stay either way.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
But you know, yeah, the he very well could be.
But we got to back up to the This is
the insult is the process.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I really don't know how far this map will get
because as James and I and Eric, we've all said,
the instant for whatever reason, it gets passed by the House,
and then the Senate says, okay, we changed our mind,
we'll exit, and then goes to the gun for what
for some reason that it gets as far as becoming okay.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
This is what we're gonna do.

Speaker 16 (01:07:56):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
You know, there are lawsuits on top of lawsuits on
top of lawsuits that are going to stop it, so
it may not even be able to It may be
tied up in court. But I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Talking about the the ridiculousness and the insulting nature in
which our elected officials have treated us as voters. As
jameson said, taxation without representation.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
That's that's the whole thing. That's the insult, and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
What shouldn't be forgotten regardless of whether they're successful with
it or not.

Speaker 12 (01:08:27):
Let me, I just wanted to finish my comment on
on the on Frank's call. Now, I've run against Andre
all the time. It's not personal, it's just that, like
I said, you know, Andre has been in Congress for
a long time. I think he's been in Congress longer

(01:08:49):
than Hakeem Jeffries Uh. He ought to be running the
show there, but he's not. And one of the reasons
I continue to I'm not saying I'm gonna run again
because you know, things in my life are changing. But
you know, one of the reasons I always ran is

(01:09:10):
because we had a vote totals sission from the Marie
County election boards website for ten years until I sued
him in federal court and then they put them back
up there. That court chase went to the Seventh Circuit,
but it was never reported on by the Indianapolis Star.
That's one reason why I you run all the time,

(01:09:32):
and you know the Indianapolis Star, I bet you they
won't interview me and do an interview as to why
I've ran all those times. They know, they know what happened,
and they know what they did. They know, but the
vast majority of citizens in the city don't know because
they didn't report on it.

Speaker 15 (01:09:52):
And you know, in.

Speaker 12 (01:09:52):
Twenty eighteen, several news organizations shut me down, including this
news station, this radio station, from doing an interview, but
they interviewed all the other Democrats. So that's one of
the reasons why I've run all the time. And I'm
not saying I'm going to continue to run.

Speaker 10 (01:10:11):
I don't.

Speaker 12 (01:10:12):
I just don't see it. But that's I just wanted
to fall in and respond to what Frank said.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
You know, okay, I appreciate it. But Pierre, if you
were okay, well, thank you for your call. I do
appreciate it. And James.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Let us be we I was not here in twenty
eighteen when he said, but when we yeah, when, but
when we both were here at some point in time,
we gave the microphone to Pierre.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
We both thoroughly researched and looked.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Into these claims that could never be I mean, you
and I did, we both, I mean, how many, how much?

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
How long do we spend on it? There simply wasn't
enough there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
I mean, I know what he's saying, and I know
he's accusing people of covering up and not reporting on
the facts, but that has been litigated over and over.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Right, Yeah, I mean, he lost his case. But I don't,
I Tina, honestly, I mean, just from my perspective, I
would have to say that I don't know that he's
not telling the truth that the figures weren't up there
because I wasn't there. I wasn't checking.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
No, I was, I wasn't checking him at the time.

Speaker 15 (01:11:24):
No.

Speaker 14 (01:11:24):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
But what he's saying, though, is that we kept the
information from the public. And remember when we we we
made it a point to let him have his say.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
I mean, we didn't.

Speaker 9 (01:11:37):
You and I know we didn't before you and I.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
You know, I can't say, but but I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Do remember when you and I looked into what we
could find and what was there.

Speaker 10 (01:11:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
I mean, the court said that he was not injured,
he didn't have any case, he couldn't prove it. But
I don't know because I and check the figures. I
do not know his claim that that he didn't get
the right totals and that they fixed it. I don't
know that, you know, And if they fixed it, there
would be no cause, I mean, the court wouldn't say.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Yeah, the mistake was correct, you know, yeah, unless they
gave him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Oh, I I think what we found was even it
with the corrected even it had had it been corrected. Uh,
but the numbers are corrected, because he would have you
to believe that because of these numbers not being posted
up there, that that was the difference in the in
the race between him and I.

Speaker 10 (01:12:34):
Oh no, no, that was not the case.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
He would say that. Yeah, well, I know he would
say you. I don't think he said that that was
the difference between him and winning and losing. I think, Tina,
what he said all alone was I just wanted the
figures to show that I didn't lose by his bad
what they said.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Okay, yeah, I think that was Okay, we got it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
He just wanted the record straight.

Speaker 19 (01:12:55):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
I just wanted the record straight. Okay. Uh, let's go
back to the phone lines. DJ, go ahead.

Speaker 17 (01:13:00):
How are you, hey, miss Tina?

Speaker 15 (01:13:02):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
I'm well, thank you you hey, thanks for what you do.

Speaker 14 (01:13:06):
You're the opposite of the guy at ninety three point one,
so you're not the only one in his.

Speaker 17 (01:13:11):
Market that does this.

Speaker 14 (01:13:12):
So you are a blessing.

Speaker 17 (01:13:14):
Oh I just want to share with you. It's like,
how can they split up Washington Township? Actually, like you said,
it's a folly, you know.

Speaker 14 (01:13:20):
So, Uh, the other thing is we've heard many moons
that uh Indiana has the brain dream brain dreams.

Speaker 17 (01:13:28):
So it's kind of like, well, there's a reason why.

Speaker 14 (01:13:30):
Because first of all, we thought Indianapolis is going to
be a river city like Louisville or Madison or Evansville.

Speaker 7 (01:13:36):
That was a boot boo.

Speaker 17 (01:13:37):
Number two, we thought it's gonna be a canal commerce
big boo boo. And now we've got these Haycs that
are supremacists that run our city.

Speaker 7 (01:13:44):
So that's why these people with common sense leave.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
So yeah, they're definitely I've heard that a lot. There's
there's a huge concern about that.

Speaker 13 (01:13:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:13:57):
So it's like it's no logic involved, you know, so
that they want to imply there's who's your hospitality?

Speaker 17 (01:14:02):
That's bogus, you know. So the only thing they know is.

Speaker 14 (01:14:06):
Money, and like Vanguard and uh black Rock, they only
know about money.

Speaker 17 (01:14:12):
If people stop spending money, there would be a reaction,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
So, d DJ, what do you think about their their initiative,
their their desire to take a million people in Marion
County and crossed them up into four pieces.

Speaker 17 (01:14:30):
What do you have to put them down by the river,
by Lake count or by Munster.

Speaker 14 (01:14:35):
Yeah, it's ridiculous, you know, it don't make no sense,
but it shows how Indiana, how the Orange guy came
after Indiana because he knows they're Patty's, you know, so
they'll roll over whatever he does.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Yeah, but was saying whatever he says, you're right.

Speaker 14 (01:14:52):
It's like they're so weak and spineless and their Anglo
so they're easy prey.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:15:00):
I was going to leave, except I think too though,
the clergy, they.

Speaker 14 (01:15:04):
Need to be more aggressive, tying in the word words
and red and apply it to what this guy does.

Speaker 17 (01:15:11):
Just like Proverbs.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
I know it's not Jesus talking, but the mouth of
a full gush is folly, the mouth of a wicked
gush is evil. The mouth of the full feeds the folly.

Speaker 17 (01:15:21):
It's in Proverbs. So if we're reading before Christian and
we're reading these words and we're.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
Not going to say that applies to the guy. So
it's kind of like we live in an hypocrisy. So uh,
like I said, Tina, bless your heart and what you
guys do. Man, you guys are you know you're the
last bashing, So carry on. It's Proverbs I think it's

(01:15:49):
Proverbs twelve. I believe it's deep into Proverbs.

Speaker 17 (01:15:52):
So, uh, I just read this morning to other state
how it applies to us.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Right, all right, DJ, thank you, appreciate your call. Thank
you indeed. Yeah, speaking of districts we had yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Yesterday, City County Council Majority Leader Maggie Lewis was with
us and James. Remember when we had a caller that
had called in several times regarding some complaints and was
never aware of what district he was in.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Uh, we found out yesterday that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
He if he lives east of seventy first uh and
Michigan Road going that way, he is in City County
Council District number one, and his representative is Councilor Leroy Robinson.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Robinson.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Councilor Robinson is the chair of the Council's Public Safety
and Criminal Justice Committee. So his councilor Yeah, so that's
that's Council District one. But you know, one butts up
against five, and that's uh, and then the five and
then six, one and six and five all bump up

(01:17:05):
against each other because five is Maggie Lewis, six is
Carlos Perkins, and one is Leroy Robinson.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
Yeah, I got right. And I know the caller you're
talking about. He's a good guy. He's a good guy.
But you know what, this goes back to what Henry
said and what you and I have said and ERICQ.
And he's playing the music. So I'm gonna say this quick.
For years, it's like you if man, you've got to
know who your representatives are and you've got to vote.

(01:17:36):
That's you know, I mean the least they don't take
but fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Yeah, but that's it. No, no, no, I you sometimes
you want to pull your hair out. It's like if
you you gotta know who you are putting in You
know who represents you. These people work for you. You
at least have to know that. You at least need
to know that. So we'll be right back. We still
got callers on the line. We'll get to you right
after this.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
And we're back with Community Connection. James Callers have been
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Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
The lines have been full.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
We are doing our best to work through them. So
let's get back to the phone lines. Okay, oh yeah, okay, Marvin,
how are you Marvin online?

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Two? Go ahead. Good afternoon, Tina and Jay, Good afternoon.

Speaker 7 (01:18:41):
Hey, A couple of things. See, you know, I was
thinking back with this MADICRICTI if you remember, they took
away our four at large open it with favor of
the Republicans. We now have it at super majority. You know,
in the city in Minneapolis, they take away out to
vote for judges. And I think Tina and James and

(01:19:03):
I'm hoping that Senate was being strong, but they haven't
seen properly the outrage, you know from those things. There
wasn't an upward like that should be where we're taking
away people's representatives and two largely black counties. But I
want to ask you and Tina about what I've been hearing.

(01:19:26):
And it appears that most things that people say about
Trump ends up becoming true. You know, I've been hearing
especially and thinking about the bombing of those and I
don't know why he wants to go at war with Venezuela.
You know, I don't know, I have to researched Alida.
Maybe he's a terrible guy, but I don't think he's
any worse than Houtin. You know, if you want to

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go star war, go get Pootin out of Ukraine. We
know that's not going to happen. That Venezuela is weaker
than us, and so it'll probably be an easier target.
But what I've been hearing people say, and I turned
on MSNB now now the other night, and I've heard
a lot of people saying that he's doing things, he's
practicing to turn the army on American citizens. And I

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was thinking, and you know, if that Admiral uh didn't
refuse to follow an unlawful order, you know what they not,
you know, choose not to unfollow a lawful order, unlawful
order to attack American citizens. And I believe and I've
heard they said, it's a law that the military can't

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be used against it don't against our citizens. I don't
know now I might not be quote they can't concerned
about that because with the election next year, this man
is and even as we get closer to the Epstein
foul release, I don't know what this do is going
and what he's going to try and do, and so
you know, you all believe that there is cause for

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concerned that this president would order the military to attack
American citizens. At first, I think it could be, you know, realistic,
that they're overreacting. But by that said, I've seen him
do almost everything they said the man would do, and
so I'm increasably getting worried about it, especially with the
election next year. This man is desperate and who knows

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what'll be going on around election town. So I just
want your opinion on that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Well one my opinion in terms of what is you know,
we don't know what he's going to do. Uh, if
we think back, ninety percent of the time he tells
us what he's going to do, So I mean he
doesn't you know, he does it in plain sight. So
we need to pay attention to what he's saying a
little bit more because he typically says what he's going

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to do. I don't think the man can hold water
when it comes to something, you know, some important thing,
because he tells it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
He says it, and he tells it and he does it.
So I don't think we need to wave off certain things.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Oh that's crazy. Oh, that's just him talking. No, he
tells you what he's going to do, then he does it.
So I think we all need to pay a little
bit more attention.

Speaker 19 (01:22:04):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
There may be some surprises in his uh you know, uh,
in his little book of tricks or what have you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
But I just think that we should pay attention to
what he's saying. He's going to do.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
Good pointing And to Barbon's question, I totally agree with him.
And it's not the first time I've said this with
e Fstein files, we don't know what's in there, he thought,
tooth and nail. Remember they brought Representative Bobert Lauren Bolbert,
I think her name is into the situation room. That's

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where they watched the combat and the strikes, Yes, and
had the FBI director in there, trying to intimidate her
to not vote, you know, to not vote for that
discharge petition.

Speaker 15 (01:22:49):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
This man will start a war, he said, was it yesterday?
I think it was yesterday when he had that Bogus
cabinet meeting, Uh, yesterday, that he that there would be
land action in Venezuela. Okay, he will start a war,
he will do. We have to watch what he's doing.
Like you said, we have to watch what he says

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and watch what he does too, because I think, like
like Marvin said, I think it's the few files. I
don't know what's in there, but I think there's so
much in there. He is fearful of it and he's
trying to distract in every way that he can. That's
that's just my view.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
Yeah, yep, yep, yep. I would agree.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
All right, Marvin, I appreciate it. All righty, thank you.
Let's go to line six.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
Victoria, she's been holding for a minute. Go ahead, Victoria,
how are you?

Speaker 11 (01:23:40):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (01:23:41):
Tina. First of all, I want to tell you all
what a great job y'all do. And I wish that
this sometimes was the only radio station that others could
really listen to, you know, besides the one oh six
point seven. I wish this was just the only one.
But you know, what thing comes to the year that
I was born, which is nineteen sixty seven, that Martin

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Luther King said one thing. He said, he has a
dream that we were all one day come together, and
you know, we slowly but surely you are getting there.
And he wasn't just talking about the Blacks. He was
talking about everybody and this thing that Trump has that's

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going on, you know, with people voting for him. The
year that I voted, that was the year Trump came
in and I was so mad because I was a
felon and they said that we couldn't vote at one time.
And when I had a chance to voting, my Auntie
made me get up and go over there. On off
of forty six at Mower. Trump came in office, and

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I was mad about it. But in all due respect,
I don't believe he's coming and I don't believe he's
gonna get there this third time. The strike and when
it comes to Andre, a lot of these people has
went to school with Andre.

Speaker 9 (01:25:06):
Andre.

Speaker 15 (01:25:07):
He came from a family of deep poverty and everything
that his family has always stood in prayer as warriors,
not soldiers, because they foul and they don't get back up,
but warriors.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
Continue to stand.

Speaker 15 (01:25:22):
And I do believe that he's gonna stay there. Trump's
coming out And if we could just believe in that
dream that we have read about, it's so much. It's
so much history where even when the when the Blacks
were done wrong, they still believed in not going against

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the universe of people to strong down. And Trump's not
gonna last. And I believe that he has done so
much to some people where they felt like he was
on their team when it all began, putting them in
office and they started getting and all this stuff that
he put up that Baraque had already started. See, he didn't.

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All those good things that happened wasn't just from his hand.
He started what was before the hand. And if people
can just realize that every time we go into an offense,
or every time we go into a job and we
make it better, we only making it better off the
hand that was already there before us. But pretty soon

(01:26:27):
as up now, I feel like his hand has played
out because he went in on top of somebody else's
written statements to where now he's got to write some
more and his writing has ran out, and it's not
gonna last long. It's gonna end during the time in
the season of this election, like Ecclesiastics tell us, it's

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a time for everything, And his time has came to
where he has dawing so much in this time to
where it's time for him to sit on down because
he's now and he.

Speaker 9 (01:27:01):
Ain't got no more to write about it.

Speaker 15 (01:27:04):
Okay, he has no more hands.

Speaker 7 (01:27:05):
To play in.

Speaker 15 (01:27:06):
So if we can just continue to stand and do
what we've been told through our histories and our ancestors,
even if we feel like we ain't got enough people.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
Two or three is enough.

Speaker 15 (01:27:20):
I believe we two or three can make all this
fall to the ground. That's just my statement, all right,
But I'll love you all so much.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Thank you, thank you. We appreciate it. We appreciate it. Indeed.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Yeah, so standing together is I think it's going to
be key in the coming days. Absolutely the huge, key,
absolutely huge.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Indeed.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Uh, three one, seven for zero thirteen ten. Mister Russell,
go ahead, how are you.

Speaker 10 (01:27:47):
Good?

Speaker 13 (01:27:47):
Afternoon? Sesus greeting? Theese are greeding. You know, it's been
some great comments that have been on today, and but
I think, you know, we, like others have said, you know, uh,
this is this is the time to to really take

(01:28:09):
it all in. But once you take it all in,
I think we have to act.

Speaker 7 (01:28:13):
We have to act.

Speaker 13 (01:28:15):
And uh, this is a season for what I call
s O S. You know, s O S is a
signal for or danger to be alert. Yeah, yeah, so
my s O S would be strategized, organized, schedule, that's

(01:28:37):
what we need to be doing. So I think every
every person has asked the said are you strategizing, are
you organizing, and are you scheduling your action? I think
that's very important because the other side of the opposition
is doing it if you pay attention. Uh the opposition

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uh uh. The Trump administration in particular is organizing right now.
They're actually politic and right now. You know, they got
their minions out there, they got their radio commentators out
there spreading malicious information, and they're gonna continue it. So

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if we're are going to be successful, we can't take
it for granted that even though a lot of the
administration's policies are unpopular, we can't just len it as
that because they're gonna lie, cheat and still about that.
You know, if you remember when Ronald Reagan was in office,
he did a lot of the same things. You know,

(01:29:42):
like some of the collegs that mention what we're doing
in Venezuela and whatnot. Well, when Ronald Reagan was in office,
he did similar things to the little country of Guyana.

Speaker 7 (01:29:54):
You remember that.

Speaker 13 (01:29:56):
He sent the arrange now to Guana. You know, this
is all fluff, you know, and uh so I think
what we need to do again, we need to at
a giant We need to organize, we need to schedule action.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Yeah, you know what, mister Russell, A very crucial step
is missing before because in order to do all of that,
you have to pay attention to what's going on. You cannot.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
We have to remove our head where we have had
this ostrochen thing going on with ourselves and family and friends,
and for far too long our heads have been in
the sand. And so I can't tell you how many
times I you know, I'll talk to somebody and oh,
let me turn this off.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
Is just the news. I don't want to hear all that,
or are they talking about you? I don't want to
hear none of that. I don't want to know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
You have to have some kind of semblance of what
is going on before you can organize strategy. Now, for
those who are aware and interested, absolutely, mister Russell.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
But I think we have a bigger issue because too
many of us sat down and did not come out,
and did not go out and did.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Not exercise what we should have been exercising the last
big time around. They're not going to organize, strategize, and
and what's the other they're not going to.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
Do all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
Yeah, they're not gonna do all that because they don't
even know what's going on or they have no use
for it. So I think our bigg one of our
bigger charges. I agree with you, I'm I'm with you
one hundred percent there, But I think we have another charge,
we have another responsibility, another.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
Chore, a heavy lift.

Speaker 21 (01:31:34):
But we've got to get people engaged, engaged, engaged and
getting not frustrated and not ticked off, not sitting down,
engaged to the point where they can start to do
everything what you're talking about, to join uh, you know,
to get on that phone, to do whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Everybody's not going to be able to go to the
protest meetings and marches and all kinds of other stuff.
But we all have a phone. I'm talking about starting
with something real simple, a phone. How many times have
we given out numbers to your lawmakers to lean on.
First of all, you gotta know who your lawmakers are,
you know. So we got a lot of work to
do in terms of just the simplest of things that

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can make the biggest difference in all the world.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
We really really do all of those things that you're talking.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
About are great, but I'm concerned that too many people
are exhausted, uninterested and just was soon just don't even
want to think about it, and hoping that it goes away.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
You know, like I said, shoving your head in the sand.

Speaker 13 (01:32:33):
I know disagree with you, but what you know, if
you look at food history, there's never been the majority
of people. There always been people that have not been
so conscious of what's going on. But the people that
our conscious have take the initiative. You know, when when
the civil rights movement was in the sixties and seventies,

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it was just a few A lot of them were
younger people know that that that made the difference, but
a lot of the older people were sitting back and saying,
don't do it. So, you know, there's always there's always
been a minority of people that have been the people
that have been what I call the point of the sphere,

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that have been taking the actions up. Don't don't get
to discouraged about the fact. But yeah, if we could,
if we could have more people getting involved and attention,
that would be great. But you're not gonna always have
that that luxury. Unfortunately, so the people that our conscients
have to they had to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's yeah, I don't see it's yeah, yeah,
I have to.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
Agree with that that the smaller group, you know, kind
of motivates the larger. Remember doctor King was just twenty
six years old when he led the Montgomery Post boycott.
So yeah, can't You're both right?

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
Yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Maybe I'm just saying my larger frustration is because I
know more of us need to We need more numbers.
You know, they're strength and numbers, their strengthen numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
And we just we just need more.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
And I think that generationally we've been lowed to sleep
because things have been so good based on the work
that was done prior to uh, these generations being able
to sit back and enjoy the fruits of the labels.

Speaker 4 (01:34:18):
Of others, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
And they're comfortable, and some of them don't even know
how to fight. So we got to teach.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
We got to teach that some of them didn't get
to sit at the knees of their grandparents and hear
what was going on, you know, Mike, and still Eric's nodding.
My parents, my dad and mother talked about how they
had to you know, when they were younger. They can
only go to certain skating rinks and they can only
do so and so and such and such, and they
taught that these kids, these kids grew up with Bara,
some of these young people grew up Barack Obama being president.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
They're like, so yeah, and I'm like, oh my goodness,
you have no idea.

Speaker 13 (01:34:51):
But you know that's why history is so important.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
Yeah, yeah, it really is. It is all right, mister Russell.
We appreciate you. Thank you very much. Always insightful and yeah,
good point. He made good point. He made a good point.

Speaker 4 (01:35:04):
They did and you did too. But I think what
he was saying that the core group kind of motivates
the bigger people because and then you know, the discrimination
was just in what we're in now is like who
is that was saying that, you know, it's back to
like I think it was a former Kompleman Oliver, who
was saying that, you know, it's like seventeen, I mean

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eighteen sixty five, eighteen, you know, during right after reconstruction,
when they started the black codes and you know, the
Jim Crow laws. I mean, it's like they want to
go back so far. They want to segregate people Tump
Trump wants say the resegregate society. I mean, he just
stopped immigration from nineteen countries. Most of them are are

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Africa from Africa, and.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
You know what he called them, right, yeah, you know what. Yeah,
so people will catch on. Hopefully they'll catch on.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
And like a Congressman Carson had said, sometimes folks have
to feel it, you know, you got to feel it
a little bit too, uh to get motivated.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
You know, that's that's a great motivator as well. But
we you know, hey, keep up alive. We a time, Yeah,
just about t hold back. Hey, he'll hit that music
button in a minute, won't he, James that I'm telling you.

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I'm telling you. So we'll be talking again though, James.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Hopefully we can. We can talk on Friday. And and
you know, everybody just trying to pay a little bit
more attention to what's going on with our our lawmakers
down there because there, you know, there's some really important
stuff taking place.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
We all have to be mindful.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
Absolutely, you know that's I mean that the callers we
had today were fantastic. They couldn't have laid it out better.
And of course, you know, you guided them really well
and really great comments. Yeah, make everybody you and Eric.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Hey, we still are collecting toys for our Black Santa
Christmas Drive. We are still collecting new unwrapped toys at
any area participating McDonald's.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
You can go to our websites to find out more.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
But we really want to make sure that these kids
have a nice Christmas, and our Black Santa Toy Drive
is now underway, so can you help us out, help
us out so we can help the children have a
nice Christmas. And we'll tell you a little bit more
about that. And there's but the music is about to
run out. We'll talk to you Friday, James, Eric, I'll.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
See you tomorrow. All right, that's all for now. Williemore
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