Community Connection With Tina Cosby Open Phones & Saint Peter Claver Returning 09/11/25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
WTOCAM W two three six c are Indianapolis, discussing the
issues that matter to you and keeping you informed of
what's happening in and around inde. It's Community Connection with
Tina Cosby, brought to you by Child Advocates, a champion
for justice, opportunity and well being for children on Praise

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AM thirteen ten ninety five point one FM.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
And good afternoon, and welcome to Community Connection. I'm Tina Cosby.
Today is Thursday, September eleventh. Today, September eleventh marks the
twenty fourth anniversary of the nine to eleven terror attacks.
The nine to eleven attacks, as you know, were the
deadliest terror attacks ever on American soil. A series of
coordinated attacks by the terrorist group Al Qaeda deliberately flew

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hijacked planes into the World Trade Center in New York,
the Pentagon in Washington, DC, and into a field in Pennsylvania. Now,
among other things, the nine to eleven attacks forever changed
how the commercial air travel industry would operate, not only
here in the US but around the world. Two nine

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and seventy seven people were killed. Again twenty four years
ago today, and we remember three one, seven, four, eight, zero,
thirteen ten. Three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten
is the number to the show. Lines are open right
now for whatever may be on your mind on the

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show today, our weekly sports segment with Danny Bridges from
the Indianapolis Recorder that's coming up in our second hour.
And I don't know some of you may remember, some
may not, but remember the old Saint Peter Claver Center,
the event center on the near east side over on
Southerland Avenue. Well it's been vacant and kind of like

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out of business for more than ten years, but that
is no longer the case, and we're going to tell
you why there's new life being breathed into that former
Saint Peter Claver Center and why that's also going to
be in our second hour right now. As I was saying,
the phone lines are open again. Lines are open for

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right now for whatever may be on your mind. Three
one seven four eight zero thirteen ten. Three one seven
for eight zero thirteen ten is the number two community connection. Now,
before we go any further, I'd like to thank everyone
everyone who had a hand in our Stop the Music
event yesterday, which took place yesterday, of course September tenth,

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which is world Suicide Prevention and Awareness Day every year
on September tenth. Each year on September tenth, this observance
is held several of our stations here at Radio one
Indy take time to have serious conversations about suicide, suicide prevention,
and mental health, especially among our minority communities where suicide

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rates continue to climb at alarming rates and we have
to address it. We have to address it, and part
of that was done yesterday. It's a matter of huge concern,
so keeping it at the forefront, keeping the conversations going
is incredibly important, especially during the month of September, which

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is suicide Prevention and Awareness months. So again, thank you
to everyone, all of our guests and listeners. On this
show and on WTLCFM Hot one hundred point nine Lamega
and Fuego, we all together had two more than two
hours of programming each to stop our regular programming and

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in the instances of TLCFM Hot and Lamega and Fuego,
the music was stopped. Here on this show, regular programming
was just not done and we just devoted the entire day,
in the entire time to side in suicide prevention and awareness.
So I want to thank everyone again. Our guests could

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not have been nicer, they could not have been more informative,
and you the listener, asked very good questions, informative questions,
so the conversations continue. Yesterday was important, The rest of
this month is important. But we have to keep it
again at the forefront throughout the year as much as

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we can. So again, thank you to everyone who helped
us stop the music yesterday. If any of you have
been watching local and national news and wondering what's going on,
you've heard that ultra conservative commentator Charlie Kirk was shot
and killed yesterday at a college campus in Utah. Charlie Kirk,

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in case you've never heard of him, was the CEO
and co founder of Turning Point USA, as you learned
yesterday and probably have been hearing of all of the
if you watch any news, you're on your cell phones, anything.
This has been massive. The coverage of this has been
absolutely massive. He was taken down by a single gunshot

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wound to the neck at a Utah Valley University event. Kirk,
who was thirty one, far right conservative activist, was shot
during what was planned as the first stop of his
fourteen city American Comeback Tour American Comeback Tour, which would
feature he has proved me wrong engagements with audience members

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that he often challenged. Charlie Kirk died shortly after, if
not immediately, I mean, I don't have anything the timing
on that, but died quite quite shortly after that single
gunshot wound and so. And for those of you not familiar,

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if you had no idea who he was, he was
a you know, for the last ten years, maybe longer,
with his organization, his tours, his speaking, his he he
was all over the place and spewed a combination of
Christian nationalism and racist politics. He was a player in

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that in that arena, in that space, one of the
major players in that space. So super maga Donald Trump
supporter to the utmost, quite prominent within Trump's circle. Actually
Trump loved him. And I'm going to tell you what
Trump's getting ready to do in just a little bit.

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But some of the things that would make I guess
non mega people concerned about Charlie Kirk's rhetoric or his
what he stood for, called the Civil Rights Act of
nineteen sixty four a huge mistake, called doctor Martin Luther

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King junior, awful and totally undeserving of a national holiday.
He called George Floyd a scumback. He called immigration an
effort to reduce the white demographic in the United States
of America. He said he would be nervous if he

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boarded a plane and a black pilot was at the controls,
because he would wonder if this black pilot was qualified
to fly that plane or just another DEI hire, and
so on and so forth. So this is the lane
that he traveled in. He had a lot of followers,

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mostly young people, visited a lot of college campuses, and
again would challenge people to debate with him anytime during
his his visits and things. I have to admit, I
am was not that familiar with him. I became more form.
I mean I knew the name uh, and I knew
that he was uh, you know, ultra conservative and super maga,

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and I knew that he was just just an avid
Trump supporter, quite close to the president, I guess. But
in spite of all of the and and you know,
his philosophies, the things he said, uh, the the way
that he presented anybody that wasn't white, UH as either

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just not you know, I I don't even know the
word for it. But in spite of all of that,
I don't think that we I just don't know what
we're going to be able to do with gun violence
here in this country. In fact, he was talking about
gun violence I think in mass shooters when the when
the shot, when he was shot, I mean he I

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think his final couple of words had something to do
with that. And I didn't go that closely into it.
But the reaction from the MAGA and the Trump administration
is predictable because this guy was a hero to them,
because he spoke their language. And Trump is going around
ordering flags and all the other stuff. But he that

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what was it he wants to give him? Let me see,
he wants to give Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom,
the highest civilian award in the United States. Donald Trump
wants to give Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom,
which is the highest civilian award in the United States.

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And so it shows you if you still are confused
as to what Donald Trump values and what MAGA represents,
this young man thirty one years old was a walking,
living embodiment of it. And because of such, Trump wants

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to elevate him, probably if he could, to statis status
of saint, because this is what MAGA is all about.
But I say all of that, I say all of that. Shooting, killing,
gun violence has no place, and it still has no place,
you know. I I don't condone this man being shot

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and killed for what There was no reason for that.
There was no reason for what he said. But that's
that's another that's another uh, you know, another area or
what have you. But just like he shot down, you know,
the people on the other side of the aisle get
shot down as well. Now they don't get the attention
from the current administration and the you know, all of

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the honors and things of that nature, because they don't
represent a school of thought from the current administration. But
in no way applaud or celebrate the killing, because it
works on both ends. You don't want killing on either end.
I don't think that that's the way to go. I
didn't follow him, but what I've learned about him, what

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he said was despicable. The way he behaved with what
he said was reprehensible. But again, we cannot keep using
Here's the other thing. He was a fierce defender of
the Second Amendment, fierce defender of the Second Amendment, and
I think at one point even said that if children

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have to die, that's just part of the sacrifice so
that we can all maintain our Second Amendment rights. And
I wonder, I wonder what would have been his opinion
had he survived the shot. But it looks like whoever
shot him made sure he didn't survive, I think from

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what I understand the according to the Associated Press, they
now have a sketch of what the suspect look like,
looks like they have the gun, and some other evident
what they believe to be the weapon, and some other
evidence and things of that nature. So and you know,
what is the ultimate irony somebody that a fierce supporter

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of guns may have been gunned down, may have been killed.
We don't know the status of who had the gun,
with the gun, We don't know any of that. But
it does seem ironic that you say, children, if that's
the sacrifice to keep our first Second Amendment rights, then
so be it, and then you are gunned down by

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an assassin. It just to me, it highlights something that
needs to be done about our gun laws and gun
rules in the United States of America. So it's just
an ultimate irony. But again, I I don't sell you can't.
I would never celebrate anyone's murder. But I think that

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it's a wake up call for both sides of the
you know, all sides to understand that look at where
we are, look at how polarized we are, look at
what what is being said, look at what it produces
and continues to produce. It's got something's got to you know, well,
something's got to give. I don't know will we make

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it is I'm not trying to be funny, but the
midterms next year, you know, we're a little more than
a year away. So anyway, three one seven four eight
zero thirteen ten. Three one seven, four eight zero thirteen
ten is the number if you want to weigh in
on that or anything else. It's the Charlie Kirk shooting.

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The Charlie Kirk killing. The murder of Charlie Kirk is
an smh because there's so many ironies with that that
are just absolutely ironic for lack of a better phrase.
But yet, and still, there's so much more that could
be done and maybe help with informing people who tend

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to share not so true hateful rhetoric, not true and
true hateful rhetoric. I'm picking my words carefully because again,
someone has lost their life and I don't want it
to be seen in any way, shape or form that
that is being celebrated, because it's not. It's just as

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reprehensible with him as it was with the Minnesota couple
that were killed, the judge in Michigan whose teenager's teenage
son was killed, Nancy Pelosi's husband in California was nearly
hammered to death, all of those things. You know, it's

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got to stop.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I stopped.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
The temperature has to come down. Three one seven four
eight zero thirteen ten three one seven, four eight zero
thirteen ten. Let's go to the phone lines. Uh, the
real Debra go ahead.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
How are you hey, Miss Tina? Hi? Everybody, Hi, Hi,
thanks thanks for taking my call. My condolences to all
the victims families of nine.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Eleven, absolutely absolutely, the.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Kirk family just pure loss. You know, my condolences. I
was calling because I don't know if you've talked about
this or not.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
I've been busy.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I got my AES bill and it doubled, and uh,
I've called them and I can't get them. What they
did was my mom and I live very close. So
because they close to Kiosk down on l Noise, there's

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no place, you know, you could physically pay the bill,
and if you pay it, you know the places this
two dollars fee. So we mailed it in. So there's
that's an option you can do, is mail your statement in.
And what they did was they took my payment and
credited my mom's onto my mom's account.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
What yeah, why?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
What explain how that merged and how that got together?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I don't know. Separate uh check, separate statements, separate account numbers.
The only thing we did was melt it mailed both
of our statements in our payments in one on below.
So so so now I'm dealing with the Ineana Utility

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Regulatory Commission because I can get AEES to respond to
the error that they created because we my mom paid
their bill early enough, We paid them early, We paid
them you know, separate other than being mailed in the
same envelope. But we've done that for years. So now

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nobody's nobody's calling nobody, nobody's answering the call. So it's
some weird stuff going on. It's just weirdness period. But
I just wanted everybody to know. You guys, watch your
bills if you see something different. If you cannot get
a hope to AE S, which I have not been

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successful in doing, you can kind of number.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
What number have you been called? I'm sorry, go ahead,
contact the Indiana what.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
The Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yes, Indiana Regulatory Commission.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yes, you have the number UH three one seven two
three two two seven one two. And the number that
I've been calling AES is the through one seven two
six one eight two two two.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
And nobody's answering.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
No, it's recording, and it gives you options. And as
soon as they asks you to put your address in
or your zip code or whatever, and it just you know,
has the elevator music, and you don't get to speak
with anybody. And I've sat on the phone a good
thirty five forty minute. Who's Who's you don't know?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Who's your state representative?

Speaker 3 (18:37):
I don't want to say, but I know exactly who
they are. I've actually sat right next to that person
several times. You can't get them, No, I'm the wrong color.
And then I'm just gonna put it right there. I mean,
you know, I'm you know, I don't understand why how
these who else.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Do we talk to?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
There's a representative and they help all Hoosiers, not just
necessarily those in the district. I mean, it's not restricted.
Representative Cherish Prior has been very active.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, and do you have her information?

Speaker 5 (19:14):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Okay, that's who I need to speak.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, yeah, you know, she'll talk to you. Hold on,
I had it, I've got it in my other book.
But she, she certainly has. She responds and her staff responds,
and this has been something that's been at the forefront.
You also can call the Citizens' Action Coalition.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Okay, I don't have that number. I need help because
I'm like, this thing has doubled when I got it
last month, it doubles, so you can say it's triple.
And then the mistake that the era that they made
they credited my payment to my mom's account. That's very
weird to me. I'm almost thinking, does somebody know me

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at that that place that you know? Is this a joke?

Speaker 6 (20:09):
Mm hmm, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Okay, okay, okay,
let me see, let me see it. Let me see
mum m m mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I just had that. Uh well her house address. Let
me see if I can get that. Can you stay
right there, Deborah, and I'm gonna get to another because
I got a couple of these here. Just stay right
there and I'm gonna get right back to you. Okay, Okay,
thank you, You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Uh oh bad? Is it? O?

Speaker 4 (20:44):
B E? D?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Hi?

Speaker 7 (20:48):
I'm okay, okay. I just wanted this is the Christian station.
Uh is it right to talk about religion?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Well, yeah, it's yeah, as a Christian station. This is
a community show though, so I'm not necessarily a theologian
or whatever, but whatever's on your mind, go ahead, Okay, No.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
I'm just I just want to say we're never going
to get rid of gun violence because this country was
founded and actually the people believe in ruling with the sword.
Mm hm. You know, so getting rid of gun violence

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would be getting rid of people's way to actually protect
themselves against governments who overreached their power.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, but there's there's a lot more to that, and
and you know that it's if it were as simple
as that, and people have a right to protect themselves
it's in the Constitution. But in terms of the right
to use assault weapons and weapons of war or whatever,
or letting people under the age of twenty one have
free access to guns, or people like our state legislature,

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you know, engaging in permitless carry all kinds of things.
It just there's certain simple, non threatening regulations that need
to be put in place because it's out of control.
It's out of control. It's not a matter of you
being able to own a gun. It's like anything else.
You know, if you go to get a phishing license,

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or you go to pick up a prescription, which I
have done and had to go through a process. If
you go to vote, you got to go through a process.
So there's nothing wrong with a common sense, very simple
process so that everybody and their brother and people who
have no business with these things get them. It's not

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a matter of not being able to own a gun.
So I understand what you're saying, but you know, this
is this country.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
I thank you, miss McCoy.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
What's to make your point again?

Speaker 7 (23:02):
Okay, my point? I thought we were talking about the
Charles was that Charlie Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
No, you didn't say Charlie Kirk. You said people that should,
didn't you say, be able to own guns to protect
themselves against militia or something like.

Speaker 7 (23:21):
That, government, government, government.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
To protect themselves against government. Okay, is that what you said?

Speaker 7 (23:27):
Yeah, deranged government. You don't think this government is a
deranged government when they violate all the human rights laws.
And even you said some things about Charlie Kirk that
you had heard. We know that.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
You know that I researched research.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
Okay, I agree with you. I agree with you what
you said, but uh, I think by him having that ideology,
he's a leader of the terrorist government that we're supposed
to protect ourselves from. I agree to all the other
things you was saying about how people use guns. But
if we are being ran by a tyrant government Democrat

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and Republicans, because I think we're going to see if
the Democrats get back in there, they're not going to
do anything for the indigenous people, which are the black
people of this land. They're not gonna do anything for
us because we are the real issues. They don't want
to give us what they owe us or even you know,
redress anything that they're taken from us. They don't want to,

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you know, do that because they're afraid that we might
have too much power, So that we can until while
we got while.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
We have.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
Other other nations, white people and whoever that's against this
government set up, we should use them. We should all
get together and bring government down and set the people
that you know, I don't mind government, but set the
people who are not tyrants in place. But if we
just continue to let them, you know, let them take

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the military, the rich people take their military and use
it for them, then they're gonna take all our powers
and have us subjects, which we are. They're gonna have
us bottling down kissing their rings, which that won't happen.
But even called Marx and a lot of the other
conflict theory scientists say that the people are gonna get
fed up and go out in the street and start,

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you know, mayhem against the government. Each other is just
gonna be crazy. So while we have people together that's
thinking the same way about government overreach, I think we
should be looking to us uniting and taking this government
power away from these people.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Okay, all right, rich people, Well, thank you for your call.
I appreciate it. Thank you for your call. Three eight
zero thirteen ten three one seven for eight zero, thirteen ten.
Let's take out before we take a quick break, Debora,
let's go back to the real debor online one.

Speaker 7 (26:06):
Her.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I have her email address right here, and it is
the letter h at ig A dot I N dot gov.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
And this is missus par.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Cherish Prior, State Representative Cherish Prior. She represents the Indiana
House District ninety four and has been personally involved with
the rate request increases, especially most recently on behalf of as.
So she would be happy to get back with you.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Okay, you mentioned someone another facility and I didn't catch it.
It was her, and then it was somebody else.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Oh, okay, Common Cause Indiana. Let me see CCC Citizens
Action Coalition.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Citizens are Common Cause is the another one. Oh, I'm
getting them all confused. Citizens Action Coalition. They definitely fight
back against the utilities. They were the ones that were
able to defeat the first rate increase. They were able
to get it knocked down. Hold on just a second.
The Citizens Action Coalition c O A L I T

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I O N Citizens Action Coalition, and their email address
is c I T A c T dot org. C
I T A c T dot org. And if you
go to that website. They have all of the numbers
that you'll need there.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Okay, thank you so much, as Sina, I have a wonderful.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Right you too, Thank you you too. Bye bye, and
we're going to get to your calls. We're going to
take a very quick break and when we come back,
we'll be let's see Jeff, you're up next. We'll be
right back.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with
Tina Cosby, brought to you by Child Advocates, a champion
for justice, opportunity and well being for children on Praise
Am thirteen ten ninety five point one FM.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
And we're back with Community Connection three one seven four
eight zero thirteen ten. Let's go back to the phone lines. Jeff,
how are you today?

Speaker 8 (28:27):
Hey, Jane, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I'm doing well? Thank you doing? Okay?

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Oh good? On the summer anniversary of nine to eleven, Yeah, yeah,
very very well.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
You know, it's one of those it's one of those
anniversaries where everybody remembers where they were all remember exactly
where I was exactly yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, and yeah, so Michael, those those that lost your
lives that day and yeah, very slummer day, but you know, Tina, also,
yesday and I'll get the Kirk here to me, we
had a school shooting.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, thank you for that. And it
was shortly after the Charlie Kirk shooting. It couldn't have
been more than an hour or two. And I was
sarcastically saying, well, how come the National Guard isn't out
there controlling crime in Utah and Colorado instead of being
at the monument, you know, in Washington, d C. With
a tank. I mean, that's very cynical, but it shows

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the hypocrisy. Crime is everywhere. You cannot I mean.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
You're well, that's a ruse. That's a ruse.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
That is classic Fastists playbook, you know, a solution searchable problem,
you know. And so that's all that was then. But
getting back to Charlie Kirk. You know, Tina, I'm a
First Amendment absolutist. You know, I don't care who you are, Yeah, Republican,
a communist, or the member the KKK. You got a

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right to say.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
We all should have that right. We gotta we got
to protect that right to say, even though we don't
want it, may not like it, we should and we
should not get gunned down for doing so.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, and that is true. So you know,
I feel for his uh, his wife who's now a widow,
and his children who are fatherless. But however, you know,
words do have consequences, you know, and Charlie Kirkins made
a career out of attacking marginalized communities. You know, he

(30:27):
said black people were inherently violent, black and brown people,
you know, immigrants were deluding the white race.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Uh, there was a black conservative. I want all you
black conservatives to hear this, a guy by the name
of Rob Smith who went to a Turning Point USA
conference and he was basically ran out of there by
a group of neo Nazi that Charlie kirk was platforming. Yeah.
So this is a man who, you know, instead of

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being a voice of positive solutions, helped poison the atmosphere
you know with this with this racist, fascist rhetoric. You know,
did he had to like to be gunned down? No,
this is a man who said that black people he
was you know, he was also talking about this incident
happening Charlotte, North Carolina with this uh black man a

(31:20):
murdered a young white woman. They're using that as a
as an excuse saying that black men were inhallly violence. Well,
guess what, Gina, there was a white man. We have
a white suspect who's supposed.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
To be gunned down.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, and you know, I agree.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
I can remember I was, I was pretty young. You
remember George Wallace.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Right, Yes, of course I remember.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
Well he was gunned down by a white man. Okay,
so uh, letn't make one thing clear. No group has
a monopoly on crime or violence, no group. But you know,
I'll say this, that's just the whole irony of this.
And then it all starts from the top, at the

(32:08):
very top, where we have a president who is basically
behaving like a mad man, sending the military to you know,
shut down American citizens.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
No, no, what he's sending the military to do is
just shut down cities with black mayors, predominantly black populations,
and that our democratic Yes it's all political, Yes, yes,
it's all.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Political because Democrats and black book are citizens of this nation.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
But they don't need to be is the point, I guess.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
Yea mind you know, was what was all the what
you you talked about the Minnesota situation with the couples,
gunned down by aist and Donald truck gave.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
I don't think he said a word. I don't recall him,
not even a word, and yet he wants to elevate.
That's why I'm saying, and thank you, Jeff, I appreciate
your call. But that's why I repeat. This is what
he values, and so you all need to pay attention
to that he values this what you know he values
to Charlie Kirks to the point where he's going to
give him the highest civilian honor in the United States

(33:27):
of America. What did he do to deserve that? Well?
He followed Donald Trump. What did all of the people
who tried to attack the capital uh in a criminal way?
Who did who try to take down the government in
criminal way? In favor of Donald Trump? When the first
thing he does on the first day when he gets
in office, he lets him all out of jail. But

(33:48):
then he complains about crime. It's just you. You have
to follow the through line here or you're going to
get lost. You have to follow the through line three
one seven for eight zero thirteen ten three one seven
for eight zero thirteen. William, go ahead, how are you.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
You know?

Speaker 2 (34:04):
William?

Speaker 8 (34:05):
How are you doing missing.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I'm doing well, sir. How are you?

Speaker 8 (34:09):
Hey, I'm doing I'm doing just great.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
You know.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
So misting is the respect that I have for yous.
Now I have nothing to do with age, all right, Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
That's fine.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'm good. I've answered. I'm good, I'm good, thank you. So,
so what's going on?

Speaker 8 (34:27):
I had a coming and I heard I was listening
to that young man talking about taking over the government. Yeah, yeah,
he don't want you don't want to spread that word.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (34:39):
I was in the military almost fifty years ago and
they had magicians. They could take take a strand of
her off you at two miles out. And I know
right now you're saying, with this man in there right now, Uh,
the revolution.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Will not be telebats.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
No.

Speaker 8 (35:00):
Listening to the man that we have in there right now,
he would have any trouble to seek the military on
the black.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Community, none whatsoever. None.

Speaker 8 (35:09):
So the word is make a good parking lot of conversation,
but it should not be spreading after the message. You know,
a person could think the way they want to think. Yeah,
but when you thought to influence the messages of the
people's and getting all the people, that'll.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
Cut it up here.

Speaker 8 (35:29):
Yeah, got a mad man in charge. Yeah, you know
that's a that's that's a big combination.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
That's a big yeah. All righty, thank you Walliem. I
appreciate it, appreciate your thoughts. Uh three one seven zero
thirteen ten three eight seven four one zero thirteen ten.
Mister Russell, go ahead, how are you?

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Can you hear me? There's the belt?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
There it is. There we go, there we go.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah, first, you know, just giving remembrance to be Yeah,
situation so terrible. H I still think about the plane
that carried all those children. You know that. It's just
just terrible. It did, for a minute or so, bring

(36:14):
the country together.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I think for a minute.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, they were realizing that we're all in this together,
We're all in the same boat regardless. And for a
minute or so I think they came across. It's it's
unfortunate that those kinds of things don't last. I don't
know if you remember at one point there was a
movement hands across America. You remember that.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I remember that what happened went on by the wayside things.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
I don't know the enemy stuck any but anyway, one
thing I wanted to say I heard on the news
that the Utility Regulatory Commission and has denied a s
quest for rate height.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Good thank you for that. I hadn't seen that.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah, so if that's true, that's unusual, but it's well
received definitely, because I think we're going to really be
in economic financial troubles if this is the policies of
this current administration go through. And that's why next year
the midterms elections are so important. We need to really

(37:32):
bear down and get together for that because you know,
and I think the administration realizes they're in trouble. That's
why they're trying to to tell things in their favor
again in terms of so called registricting happening in Texas
and some of the other states, trying to get trying

(37:53):
to really relate rig the election. You know, it's it's
amazing how the current president tries to flip everything like
it's being rigged against him, when he's probably the rigor
and cheeks, so to speak. But you know, we do

(38:14):
have weapons to use. We have the fact that the
Constitution says that the three branches of government. Sometimes we wonder,
but we do have a chance to make a dent
in the congressional situation. And we'll do it. So this

(38:35):
is very important, and I hope people will will not
play around with it and get themselves together about voting
the right way.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, we most certainly do. All right, thank you, mister Rosso,
appreciate it. Uh three one seven for zero thirteen ten, Sharon,
go ahead, how are you? I'll good afternoon, Dana, good afternoon.

Speaker 9 (38:56):
And I was also thinking about the people died ninety eleven. Yeah,
hang out to their family. But I was gonna say,
the people who elected this man in the office, they
knew that he was coming to create chaos, division.

Speaker 10 (39:14):
He's trying to take play all of our.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Rights.

Speaker 9 (39:19):
He's trying to turn his country from a democracy into authoritarian.
He wants to be like Russian. And my thing is
that the people who are turning on him, who was
probably committing this hangs a crime against a young man.
There's probably some people from his own party and some

(39:40):
of the same people who elected him into office, because
now we want to come out in protest. When Kamalo
warned it, and everybody warned y'all what he was going
to do when he got in office, but everybody turning
back on that and wasn't listening. They rather elect dictator
than elect black woman for president.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Thank you, all right, thank you. And it just kind
of shows how deeply rooted some of the racism and
sexism is in America because you're gonna choose a convicted
felon to get to home base. Well, at least we're
safe now, at least we're safe with a man with
a white man. I don't care what he did. We
just can't have that black woman over there. Uh three

(40:24):
one seven, four eight, zero thirteen ten. And I'm not laughing.
I'm really not. It's an smh moment of shaking my
head moment. I still but it is important to realize
how deeply rooted it is going forward, because when you
see such an extreme example as what has played out
in our politics, now you know, you know. It's a

(40:44):
fever marketing campaign that started a little while ago when
the season started, and they conclude everything with now you know.
So if you didn't know before, now you know. And
if you don't know now, you ain't never gonna know.
That's all I can say. Three one seven, foy zero
thirteen ten. Henry, go ahead, how are you? Uh hires

(41:05):
Tima hi, how are you?

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Yeah, I'm doing fine.

Speaker 11 (41:08):
I was listening to your show yesterday. It was great.

Speaker 12 (41:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (41:12):
I didn't get a chance to call in. I wanted
to add that to that, but I want to stick
with the subject that you're talking about right now. But
I did want to throw in something about yesterday's subject
when you were talking about the young people. That's going
to be my handle. I have a podcast or show,
and I wanted to let you know real quick that
I'm on Apple and Spotify Science at the time. And

(41:35):
focus on the family of the last two episodes, and
I'll get to the point with Donald Trump. I did
a thing about Donald Trump and back in twenty sixteen
when he first ran, and he was always critical.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
You remember his.

Speaker 11 (41:49):
Shows, The Trinish Show, where he would be forcible when
he would talk about your fire. That's his attitude. He
doesn't believe in the constitutions. But when you listen the
signs of the time, I hope it gets out to
the Indianapolis area and sits in Indiana because I'm just
going to tell the two pig I say, I'm a
past military person. I've always served for our country. I

(42:11):
feel good about Indianapolis because this is where I'm from
and I'll stop them. Whatever you have to say.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
To the Okay, well, I appreciate it, and uh, we'll
send that advertising building sales department. How about that? Oh
you did I just you know, I just teased. I'm
just poking fun. That's okay, no, but but no, thank
you for doing that. And it's a it's a it's
a community service.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
And you're talking about things that need to be talked about.
We're all talking about things that need to be talking about.

Speaker 11 (42:42):
Hopefully it's Henry C at what's happening now? Henry cived
from What's happening now?

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Okay, Henry C. Well, good luck at your show. All right,
thank you, appreciate you three one, seven for eight, zero
thirteen ten. Uh, David, go ahead, how are you?

Speaker 12 (42:58):
Yeah, I'm all right, Tina.

Speaker 7 (42:59):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Okay? Thank you?

Speaker 12 (43:01):
Okay. I want to make a comment as far as
gun control. It seems like every time we have a shooting,
people talk about we need to get rid of the
guns and all of that. But I liking the gun
problem to the way it was back in the thirties
with prohibition. They try to get rid of all the

(43:22):
lecture and alcohol, and we see how that turned out.
So I think we need to look at the root
cause whise everybody is, you know, going out shooting and
whatnot or owning a gun. And I think they say,
we live in the it's supposed to be in the
richest country. I don't know in the world. We live

(43:43):
in the world, the United States. But yet you got
people that got to work two or three jobs just
to afford a one bedroom apartment or something like that,
you know, and until you know, the government priors to
be look at, you know, want to pay a living wage,

(44:09):
and if you want to work, then you should be
able to get paid a living wage. You know, you
shouldn't have to person shouldn't have to, you know, work
two or three jobs, you know, to maintain And I
think that's what's causing rise and you know, the gun
violence and whatnot among other things.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
You know, what are the other things that you can
think of that are causing us to be the leader
of the planet in gun ownership and gun violence. The
latest statistics indicate that in the United States of America
there's three guns for every individual of over three hundred
million people. So there's three guns and average. So if

(44:52):
you take the millions that we have and you you know,
you dole up the number of guns that are in
our society, many of them accessed far too easily for
people who have no business with them. It averages out
to three guns per individual. That also leads the planet

(45:14):
in terms of guns. And so I think that if
we say and dismiss say that, that's not the problem.
You know guns, and I think the problem is access
to guns and nonsensical, nonsensical regulations surrounding gun ownership. And
when I say nonsensical, I'm talking about common sense regulations.

(45:35):
The first thing you said was that people want to
take away guns. I don't know why people can't hear
not take away guns common sense regulations. You don't have
a problem with preventing, I mean providing things. When you
go to drive a car. Driving a car is very serious.
You could you know, anybody could get killed driving a car.

(45:57):
You could kill somebody else. You have to have verification
because it's not that it's a right, it's not en
apt You know, you have a right to own a gun.
So why not say Hey, I'm eighteen, or i'm twenty one,
or i'm twenty four or whatever. What's wrong with that?
I don't get it. I do not get I don't
get how that translates into y'all trying to take my

(46:20):
guns when when we will be willingly, willingly well show
ID for some cigarettes or you know, like I said,
a fishing license. I don't get how that translates the same.
I do understand your point and everything you make. I mean,
I can't disagree with you. There's a lot of problems

(46:40):
that need to be solved, but I do not I
do not take our place in the world, if you will,
like I said, on the planet as one of the
most gun toting, gun loving, gun firing daily, you know,
communities in the world. How is it that we are sold? Okay, okay,

(47:04):
it's not taking away guns, it's just can you can
we get some order?

Speaker 12 (47:10):
Well, there's some other underlying you know, conditions as well.
I get, and I'm right, maybe I shouldn't say take
away guns because it's a right to own a gun,
but you got to be responsible now. Yeah, wait, man,
in the paper today, in the paper today, they arrested

(47:31):
this guy to a teenager thirteen years old, and I
don't know. They said he had like about twenty three
four arms hand guns, right, and he lived with his parents.
I mean, so, what's the logic to that.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Well, the logic is he has a right to own,
he has the right to have as many as he
wants at thirteen, why not, I'm telling I mean, I'm
not trying to be funny, but that's the way A
lot of people think. It's, you know, why not in
his parents?

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Probably?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I don't know. I can't say that. I have no idea.
Thank you, David. They either playing the music, which means
we got to go to commercials, so we'll be We'll
be right back. Was more community connection right after this,
and we are back. We are back. We are back.
Three one, seven, four zero, thirteen teen. Got one caller

(48:24):
left over from the last segment before we go to
our guests. So, Kevin, you get the last call of
the segment. Go ahead, how are you? I hear you?

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, did you hear me? You get the last call
of the segment, So yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Yeah, I can hear you. I can hear y'all hear you?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Okay, good, good, good gud.

Speaker 13 (48:40):
Let me let me start by my take on it.
I think we've had this conversation before about yeah. I
think sometimes it gets misunderstood of where I'm coming from.
I think we both agree you need to have commisions
gun laws. I'm not a gun that said everybody should
better have a gun. You should have whatever.

Speaker 10 (48:56):
You want to have.

Speaker 13 (48:57):
My question is to you, because I've heard it several times.
I try not to call in. I feel like it
gets kind of a heated debate. What is your understanding
on what it takes to buy firearms? I hear you
say you know you should have like when you go
to the get driver's license or when you go fishing
lice and stuff like that. What is your understanding of
how it works for buying a gun.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Well, it depends on where you buy the gun because correct, Yeah,
certain laws are different. So what is what is your
what's your question?

Speaker 13 (49:27):
Well, I've heard you say, like even by going by medicine,
you have a show ID. When you go to a
gun store to buy a gun, you have to have
a federal background check. You can't just walk in and
buy a gun without having Yes, have a federal background check.
And that background check they have three days that have
seventy two hours to respond back to you.

Speaker 10 (49:46):
Ya and A.

Speaker 13 (49:47):
I'm one of the people that always have to wait
at least seventy two hours because of my past. Now
where I do agree, Like I said, this is only
for education. Anybody out there where I don't like it,
I've told you before, I've only sold one gun in
my life. I called the state police and say, hey,
what are the guidelines for me selling a gun to
another citizen? This is where I think it gets mixed

(50:08):
up at I can sell my gun to Tina Cosby
without asking any questions. Basically, as long as I don't
think that that person's a failing. That's where I say
the law is wrong. You should be the same as
going to a gun store. Me and who are me?
And miss Cosby should have to go into a gun
store or a gun registration place and say, hey, this
is miss Cosby. She likes to buy mister Kevin's gun.

(50:32):
Here's her ID. Run her federal background check, mister Kevin,
Miss Tina's ID came back. Okay, you can sell her
to the firearm. That's where I think we need to
do better at that end.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Training I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 13 (50:46):
Yeah, I believe we have to have some kind of training.
I was in the gun store before and a young
lady had bought a shotgun and a nine millimeter. They
let her take the shotgod home, had to keep the
nine millimeter there. She bought bullets for a nine millimeter
and I had to offer and make sure she understood
those m ou bought does not fit in that shotgun.
So I think, just like driving, I understand that this

(51:09):
is a right and not considered a privilege. And they
say driving is considered a privilege, but it is up. Yeah,
but I believe we could have some kind of comprehension
where you go get trained, say this is how you
operate a firewarm and not only just train on the
firearm or train on the law. But I hear a
lot of speech, especially now with everybody that has access
to a gun. They thinking just because I get in

(51:29):
an argument with somebody, I can draw my gun. I
can pull my gun. I can even fire my gun.
There's laws for hibbering everything I just said, there's laws
for hiberit in that if your life is not threatening,
if you're not in a media danger, then you cannot
draw your you can't even draw your fire that's called
brandish of your firearm.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 13 (51:47):
I think that's what we need to do. We need
to have comprehension gun laws.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Well, Kevin, I think the training aspect of that, while
that's a that would be like an extreme Christmas wish
list because I don't know even if some simple common
sense regulation would take place at the federal and different
state levels. I think the training, you know, some states
may adopt that, others may, But the training is a
great idea. But that you know that we're so far

(52:12):
away from even raising the minimum age to purchase a gun.
We're so far apart on that that the training, even
though I agree, I think it would be a great idea.
I mean it would that that in and of itself
could save lives, But I don't know where that would be.
You know, if there's any states that require training before
you can purchase a firearm, you know.

Speaker 13 (52:34):
I believe they are. But I think this is what happened,
and we're seeing, especially in this climbing WI in now
they say the squeaky wheel gets the oil. So we
got people on the far right and the far left,
one saying don't touch my guns at all, some saying
you should not be able to own a gun. But
it's more sensible people like me and yourself, that's in
the middle that's saying hold on. Even with abortion, there's

(52:56):
some people to the far in say everybody is should
be open field. You can get abortion whenever you want.
And some people say nobody, no matter if it's the
death of the mother, nobody should get abortion. Or there's
more people in the middle saying hold on.

Speaker 7 (53:07):
Now.

Speaker 13 (53:07):
Like me, I don't believe in abortion, but I'm not
gonna tell a woman or I'm not gonna tell a
ten year old who've been raped by her father that
she has to carry this term that's between her, her
doctor and God. That's not for me. So I think
if we stop fighting each other, and especially us in
the middle, stop fighting each other, no matter if you
left or right, Let's start with the things that we
have in common. I always say that, Yeah, when we

(53:30):
start with the things that we don't have in common,
by the time we try to get to the things
that we have in common, we're so mad at each
other we can't even talk about it. But if we
start with the things that we have in common, like
me and you, hey, that should be comprehension. Gun safety,
that should be comprehension. Gun laws, maybe even raise the
age to carry a firearm, and we start with that.
By the time we get out to what we don't,
at least we can say, hey, we can agree to

(53:52):
disagree or okay, you've made me. I trust you enough
because we started here that when we got to hear,
I trust it enough to at least listening what you're
saying and take heed to what you're saying. If I
don't agree with you, I understand your side of the argument.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
You know where my greatest frustration lies is that politicians,
because eighty percent of the United States of America is
in agreement and they are probably in the middle, that
we as a nation should have some sort of common
sense gun regulation. And yet these politicians who are in

(54:27):
control of these state houses, you know in DC, they
ignore the will of the people and and and vote
with the gun lobby. That's my frustration. That's the gridlock
right there.

Speaker 13 (54:38):
That's that's that's the tricky part of being of being
in a what they call it democratic republic. We sent
them there to represent us, even though they're really not.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
They're not representing us on this right.

Speaker 13 (54:51):
And that's the thing. That's the tricky thing. It's not
truly a democracy where everybody gets to say to me,
I wouldn't be so, I wouldn't be mad if, like
I think, it was a Missouri where they put abortion
on the on the on the ballot and then let
the people decide what they want to do. To me,
that's to me, that's more of a democratic way to
do it, and that way, at least as a group,

(55:11):
you get to say so. But when you allow three
guys from this state, four guys from this state to
represent the five million people in one state, they just
don't cause their gender gets in a way.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 13 (55:24):
Whoever's paying them and whoever's paying them, lobbyists's paying them.
That's what gets pushed, not what people want. And but
un two we start coming together and start stopping by
it on different sides of the al Well, what we're
gonna have.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
To do is we're gonna have to put the same
pressure excuse me, on our politicians as the gun lobby
puts on them. That's what we're gonna have to do.
And I think once we figure that out, especially with
eighty percent of Americans, Agreen, I think some changes will happen.
But you know, until then, the gun lobby and the
pressure that they put on all of the politicians from

(55:58):
the top down. They win and they keep winning, keep
winning every time.

Speaker 13 (56:02):
So yeah, and I think that one way they win
that they're winning is like again, it's like bloods and crips.
They can't come together because the ideology, well, I hate you,
you hate me, instead of saying, hold on, I don't
agree with you on this issue, but we do agree
on this issue. This is the issue. We should push
them forward, our lawmakers and our congressman and to say, hey,

(56:24):
this is what we really want. But we so far
to the left, one to the right right now. It's
gonna take act to guy like somebody said earlier ninety
ninety eleven brought us together the country. It's almost like
we're gonna need something like that to bring yep, some
catastrophic on our own. I don't see. I hate to
say it, and uh then I'm a godfriend man, I'm
a friend man. It's's hard for me to believe on

(56:47):
our own we're gonna do this. I think it's gonna
take some catastrophic somebody either try to invade us, or
we we invade. We invade somebody within invader us and
we all come together. Other than that, I just I
just don't see it. I promise I don't.

Speaker 12 (57:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Well, I'm always the e turnal lot to miss Vin.
So I'm thinking, all right, thank you for your college,
Thank you, all right, thank you.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
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Speaker 2 (57:33):
And like I said, Kevin routed out our last segment
for us. We're about to start our second one. Our
first guest, Pastor Kim McCracken. She is the director of
the new Trinity Family Center, which I understand is the
former Saint Peter Claver. Pastor McCracken, welcome to the show.
Thank you for being here with us. How are you
doing today?

Speaker 3 (57:54):
I'm doing great. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Well, thank you for being here. You know, when I
heard Saint Peter Claver, the old Saint Peter Claver, and
that everything the renovation and community and family and food
all of that stuff. I said, wait a minute, we
got to talk to pastor go to find out. So
can you tell us from the start and what's going
on and what do people need to know about this

(58:18):
amazing transformation.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Amen. Well, yes, it is the former place of the
old Saint Peter clayor Balding. We know there used to
be a beautiful edifice for a lot of things that
went absolutely and when I came home to visit, I
lived in Florida for over thirty years. I came back
home and I asked about the place and someone said
it had been sitting dormant for a very long time.

(58:41):
So we were looking for a place to do several
things then and it was for sale and we finally
got down to business and we're able to obtain the place.
So we're just you know, everything needs to be done
to it. But one of the things is that we
definitely outright own it. And a lot of people are wondering,
you know, hey, they ripe how they want to buy it,

(59:02):
they want to do this and that. But we have
plans for the building, We have plans for the community,
and we have plans to make the community, you know,
and restore, restore, the community to make it better for
the people and find out what is the need for
the people. So we're excited about that. We've had it
for over eight years now, just trying to get things together,
trading everything up, you know, from downtown to trying to

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keep the vandals out. You know, it's kind of a
busy situation. But we're here to stay, and so I'm
excited about the future.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
So I understand. Am I correct in saying that the
old Saint Peter Clayverson over there on Sutherland Avenue is
on the list of historic places?

Speaker 7 (59:45):
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Well, you know, they are telling me that, you know,
when I asked several years ago, they were they had
a few more years to go before they would name
it that. So I'm thinking that we're like close to
that where it's a locally historic preservation community. We're still
working on them to put a stamp of approval on that,
and so it's been talked about, you know, and so

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we just keep moving as we go. But yes, can you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Yeah, for those who may not be familiar with it,
can you describe the the the the building, the parking lot,
the upstairs downstairs, you know, what all does it have?
What does it have to offer the building.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Yeah, the Saint Peter Clayver Building has a beautiful large
edifice in the top. There's you know a lot of
concerts and everything used to go on there. If you
look at the Saint Peter clave clay Building, you will
find that. I mean, we have anybody from Maya Angelo
to Muhammad Ali that has been in that building doing

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different things throughout the years. And it has a basement
and I want to want to call a basement, it's
a whole nother life downstairs that have a banquet hall
and has a lot of office rooms, office space rooms.
Is going to have a restoring back of full pitching
downstairs and then it goes out onto a patio, which
you know, we're just gonna make some plans for to

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bring it back to par to make it great for everybody.
But it is a very large place. It also has
a house sitting on that property, and so all of
it is inclusive, and so we're just looking forward to
doing many things in the area over there for the city,
you know, some bringing bring back some great things.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
You know, it was such a vital, vibrant part of
the community for so many years and so long what
do you know what happened and why they just had
to shut the doors? You know what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
I know, I know that it went through a couple
of hands. By the time I got back to it.
When I was looking into it, it was not called
the Saint Peter Claver anymore. I think it was the
Knights of something, The Knights of Saint Peter Claver I
think wasn't it was, no, you know what the last
thing it was hall was the Oasis.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Oh okay, okay, the last.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Thing that it was called was the Oasis, and that
is uh who I purchased it from.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
So it's it's yeah, it's strategically placed, kind of you know, conveniently,
I want to say strategically because but but it's very
conveniently placed because it's kind of midtown, uh, somewhat east
and somewhat north.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
It just kind of covers all of the all of
the bases in terms of its placement.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Yeah, yes, it's that, you know, and everything is happening
around us, Everything is being built up around us, but
we're right behind everybody here to come, you know. But
it's it's it's in a beautiful area. You know, a
lot of new things are going around. I know they
did the park down the streets from us. Charles Williams.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Is that the Charles Reverend Charles Williams. Yeah, that's brand new,
isn't it or somewhat new newer.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Brandow Yeah, uh huh. And it's very beautiful. Yeah, so
that's right down the street. So yeah, we're trying to,
you know, get things together. We have a lot of
work to do. But I have faith, just just like
I have fathe to be able to obtain where we are,
you know, and so we want to be able to
have that restored and have a lot of different things

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going on on the inside of that building that will
help the community, that will further help the children in
the community and surrounding. You know, just got a lot
of plans for the building.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Okay, can you share those with us so we can
know what we have coming with the new building. And
it's including the name, including the names.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Okay. So we are the Trinity Center Children and Family Services.
And when we say Children and Family Services, you know,
it's not just a name. The people that I work with,
we are people that love to help. And so the
families that need services, they need all touches. They need
more than just food to eat. They need services for

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their heart mind, and so we want to try to
put the family back together and do different dinners where
they can sit and eat together. Family services can come
in a whole lot of different categories, but we're ready
for them. We're ready for them in any kind of
any kind of way that we can. We'd like to
have definitely a food pantry, but you know, I'm thinking,
you know, I don't want to have a regular food country.

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
I want to be able to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Have vans that will be able to go out in
two areas where somebody doesn't have a ride to come
and get food, you know what I'm saying. Like you know,
in some of the maybe some of the projects or
or wherever it is where we can go to them
and there are no real coming and the kids can
come out and get what they need. We were just
trying to be innovative in our thinking and talking about

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our school program. We're just trying to We're putting our
stuff out here for where we want to be. We're
gonna bounce down to what's best for the community. Definitely
definitely a safe playground for the youth and an educational
playground for the youth. Definitely rental space, events, repasses and
weddings and different things like that. I want a stronger, healthier,

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more connected community for the people. It is about the people.
It is about with me. It is about love, love love.
Is it about loving the unlovable or what the world
calls the unlovable, wanting to let them know they are somebody.
And so that will come in with the children, family
services and also having church services on Sundays in the buildings.

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So it's gonna have a different things done on the
inside and that's gonna be one of the things that
I am pastor, Cam mc cracken, and I am excited
to touch the people. Yeah, I'm excited to talk to
the people. I'm excited to let them know their kings
and queens on the inside, no matter who you are,
no matter what you look like, no matter where you've been,
no matter what you've done. Like you know, I heard

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your interview earlier about people just agreeing and you know,
talking about me in the middle and seeing what people
can have in common and we can start from there.
So I'm great at feeling that way and talking to
the people and they didn't know. Hey, let's talk. Let's talk.
What what would be your idea? You know, when I
first obtained the property, I asked some of the people

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in the neighborhood. The lady that I asked he has
since passed away, but I said, what do you guys
need over here? What would you like to see over here?
And you know, the little lady said, I really would
like to see a laundro mat. And it was just
so sad.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
I was little.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
My mom used to walk to the laundry mat. I mean,
you know, launder mats were everywhere. I remember the launder
man a custom from White House was on thirty eighth Street.
Everybody used to be in the lundery at. I think
it might have been twenty four a laundro mat. But
it's little simple things that there's a need that we're overlooking.
We're overlooking the widow. Yeah, we're overlooking the widow. That

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might feel like, oh I can never fall in love again,
Yes you can, or if you don't choose the fall
in love, guess what, there's love around here where somebody
can hold your hand, a single ball. We're missing the
simple stuff, clothing, the naked, feeding, the hungry. And I'm
not talking about just a food pantry. I'm talking about
sitting down with you in the banquet hall, having dinner

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one night, with everything set up and serving you. I'm
talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
Love, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Yeah, well that's what it's all about. Hey, we have
a caller that would like to talk with you, and
then after the call, I'm going to see if I
can get the timeline from me. Three one seven for
eight zero thirteen ten three one seven for eight zero
thirteen ten, Sam, go ahead.

Speaker 14 (01:07:39):
Good faster and good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Uh shoot, good afternoon.

Speaker 14 (01:07:47):
My question is is it the same place off of
Southern Avenue at thirtieth.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Street, Southern London and.

Speaker 14 (01:07:56):
Southern Avenue at thirty yeth Street Bread it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Is?

Speaker 14 (01:08:02):
Yes, Okay, doctor Jean makes Fatton you to own their building.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
I'm not sure you own that doctor. Him and Saton
owned the Big Fellows on thirty fourth in College.

Speaker 14 (01:08:16):
Yeah, I think he is an own that building too.
Before he is own the restaurant on College.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
So we used to go there and give eve is there.

Speaker 14 (01:08:26):
I know it's that where it said Yes, it's a
lot of entertainer went on the down through the years.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
Him, it's white him and White fold you to own that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Yes, yes, yes, they showed it back in the day.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
It sounds like it's been through a lot of hands
over time. Yeah, it's been to a lot of Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
It had it definitely have.

Speaker 14 (01:08:45):
And that's a good thing you're doing because you know,
to take uh something that that buildings.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Been there for many, many many years.

Speaker 14 (01:08:53):
Yes, and I think but what you're doing is a
good thing to let people know that, hey, and we
we're gonna renovate this thing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
Well we're doing put in the community.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
And hey, my hat's off to you, ma'am. Thank you,
and god you think you think you keep me in pray.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
All righty, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:09:11):
Sam.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
So, what's uh, what's the timeline pastor that we're looking
at hing the doors.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
We don't have the exact timeline as far as it's
going to be on this date, that date, and this date.
We are working through some things because I'm having to.
It's it's been difficult since after COVID because we were
there before that and then when we were kind of
ready to move forward, all the prices were jacked up
like fifty percent for wood and everything like that. So

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we've been trying to bounce down to the best contractors
that can give us the best deal, but quality. You know,
you can't let anybody just do anything. We got to
make sure when the roof goes up, it goes up,
because that's one of the main things that we are
working on is getting that roof in there, getting your
tigetness the way that it's supposed to be. And it's
you know, we're starting from scratching it comes to that building.

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Anything old in there will never and not be used.
So this is gonna be like a brand new building.
But you got to check this out. Most of it
is stone.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
What I was just about to ask you what kind
of shape it was in all money.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
So so the main thing, the main thing is the roof.
The main thing is the roof because when you get
inside of the here, if the roof is done, look
at the walls, the zone zone, you know, so we're
not talking about no dry wall and all this other
kind of stuff. It's on from the top to the bottom.
And I've you know, had that checked out and everything
is sturdy and in place because you know, they used
to build stuff better than their builders.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Now, Oh yes, I was gonna say I bet it
is not going to go anywhere it was.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
No, it's solid as the rock. Yeah, solid as a rock.
So we have to get that roof on, and we're
checking into different avenues to make that happen. You know,
there's a lot of people that have offered to help,
but when they've come to help, they want part of everything. Money,
not the sale. We're just trying to get this together

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for the community. So I'm telling you most of the
people that have come to me are really not there
to help. So you know, I'm trusting the Lord keeping
and moving, and we got some iron in the fire.
So I'm saying we want to look to prayerfully have
that roof on next year, Okay, okay, and after that,
after that, it's going.

Speaker 12 (01:11:22):
To be a whiz.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
But the main thing is, though, and this is what
I love. Folks in the community have something even more
to look forward to, because I know the Reverend Charles
Williams Memorial Park had been a while coming and they
had a big, you know, ribbon cutting for that, and
now that you all have purchased the old Saint Peter
Clavor Center, the building and that's underway, so there's something

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to look forward to and it is coming and it
is going to be. It is going to be for
the community, which we're going to need that more and
more in the coming day. So I think you're right
on point. You are right on track.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
I appreciate that. But I'm a tell you one thing
about Pastor came a second that you should know or
get the audience know. Okay, And this is the mistake
that I have made. You know a lot of times
when you tell people stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:12:08):
They're ready, They're ready, they're ready.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
You're You're talking about a patience, god hearing woman that
know that God is on time. Timing is not our
timing and ours is definitely not here. But I know
what God is going to do. He said, I don't
start anything in you that I'm not gonna finish. So
the timing on this, I'm not worried about it. But

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we do have a projected goal and it shall come
to pass.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
All right, then, Well, I tell you what, Pastor, Please do,
keep us posted because we would love to continue to
share your progress with the communities or the community. Community
can become a part of this. Thank you, thank you,
thank you for all you're done, and thank you for
coming on and sharing that with us in the community.
Really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
I appreciate you having me. I thank you for taking
the time out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Thank you, all right, you take care of you all right,
and we'll be back with Spoor with the Indianapolis Recorders
Danny Bridges right after this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
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Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
And we're back with Community Connection. And it does sound
like it is about that time for mister Danny Bridges
with the Indianapolis Recorder. Were there? I guess he is
there because that's his hero music or whatever music we

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call it. What do we call that, Danny? We call
that your intro music.

Speaker 10 (01:13:43):
At my age, any kind of intro is a hero
hero music.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Okay, what was that? What was that movie? It was
so hilarious. We were talking with the Wayne's brothers made it.
You know you know which one I'm talking about, Brandon
where it says every every hero needs their theme music.
Oh was it? I'm gonna get your sucker it. No,
I don't know. Anyway, I'll think of it. Somebody will
tell me. But how are you doing, Danny, Hey can't complain.

Speaker 10 (01:14:10):
It's a beautiful day outside, is relatively low. Pretty happy
about all that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Yeah, we are happy, happy, happy. You know, it couldn't
be better September so far, it couldn't be a better one.
It's it's just been fantastic. Let's see. I guess we
can start at the top. Colts had their first game
of the season, their first home game, and broke a
broke a bad little spell of losses that they've had

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in that right.

Speaker 10 (01:14:40):
Yes, and as you recall, I thought the Dolphins would
win a close game. The Colts purved me wrong by
controlling the line of Scrimma Jean, protecting the middle of
the field at the point where Miami really didn't have
much opportunity to throw the football. So, I mean, you
really can't say anything negative about the Colts performance. They
were as close as you can say to being dominant.

(01:15:02):
Quarterback play was quarterback play was exceptional. I just I
hope that people will measure their expectations from this game
moving forward. There's nothing wrong with saying, hey, we've got
something here, We're going to be great, et cetera, et cetera.
But there are sixteen games left, so I think just

(01:15:26):
be patient with this team. I don't expect him to
play that well at that high level every game. Obviously,
this is a much better football team coming to town Sunday,
but at home, the coach certainly have a chance to
be the better football team in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Yeah, and that's exactly what this week's column is about
in the Indianapolis Recorder now out where you talk about
just that kind of like, hey, this is great. Hold
your horses, though, folks, because we got our ways to go.
It was great. It was really really good game.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:16:01):
I mean look at it this way. This is a
very loyal fan base and they have tolerated some mediocre
football for several seasons in a row. Now can they
get by that they be in the organization, the franchise,
this specific roster, I think they can improve in terms
of how they in their season. Certainly, you have to

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be enthused about Daniel Jones managing the game plan to
a point where he was I won't say perfect, but
he had an exceptional football game. And I thought the
interesting point was, you know, as well as he threw
the football the Colts as the team did not take
much of a deep shot all day. You know, they

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kept the pass as short or the media range type thing,
and you know fifth, yeah, and that's okay as long
as it's working. I thought they might take a crack
at it. But you know what, you have to have
separation between the defender and the receiver. A lot of
things have to work right for a big game to occur.
They're smarter about football than I am.

Speaker 7 (01:17:05):
They better be.

Speaker 10 (01:17:06):
But the bottom line is, I thought they might throw
the football a little bit deeper, and I'm wondering if
they might do that come Sunday. But hey, look, nothing
to complain about this point, in fact, a lot to
be happy about. I did see where there's still some
scattered seats for sealing the upper level. That kind of
surprised me. But it's only Thursday. Maybe the walk up

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gate and people will get enthused about it, you know,
and they'll purchase those seats. But you know, you want
to sell out crowd. But the crowd they had last
week was just a bit short of a sellout, But
you wouldn't know it by the sound they were into
the game, and they were very very loud.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Yeah, you know who I was most impressed with in
the game Sunday, and that was Tyler Warren. He he
is a rookie that looked like a four or five
year pro in his rookie debut. I mean that guy
is he said, the truth is the old folk. She

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used to say, I couldn't. I mean, he was smooth.
He was. It was he was really really good. He's
the one I was most impressed with because he didn't rookie,
didn't look like a rookie. And if this is a
sign of things to come, that's really going to open
up the game a whole lot offensively for the Colt
So good for good for them getting him in the draft,
good for them, you know, putting him right in there.

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He won the starting job right away, and I just
think he's he's just going to open up a world
of options if he continues at that level. And it's
only game one. I know it's only game one, but
I really was impressed with him.

Speaker 10 (01:18:41):
He played at a high level in college. She was
certainly a obvious first round pick for someone. You talked
about him winning the winning the starting job. I think
that was a guarantee.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
He guarantees when.

Speaker 10 (01:18:54):
They drafted him. Miami didn't have anyone who could handle
him from in the secondary, so it'll be to see
how Sean Payton draws up a defensive scheme to try
to neutralize him. Sean Payton is an exceptional football coach.
He may end up one day when it's all set
and downe in the Hall of Fame. You know, in
terms of total wins, having a Super Bowl victory on

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his resume. That may be a little premature, but not
too much, I don't think. But my point is this
is going to be a much better football team comes
to town this Sunday, and it'll be it'll be interesting
to see how that works and what the Colts can
do with a much much better opponent.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Yeah, it will be interesting. Indeed, speaking of Miami, do
you think Mike McDaniel is about ready to go?

Speaker 10 (01:19:42):
I think if they don't play, uh, get into the playoffs,
he probably will be fired. But you know, but if
things go, you know, the wheels come off of it,
he could certainly be fired, you know, before the season's over.
It's a tough, tough profession. He's had some really good
moments down there, so he may get the benefit of
the doub up from the ownership group for this particular season.

(01:20:03):
But it just depends on you. If they go they
lose five out of their first six ball games and
they're not playing well and they don't see a lot
of spark, yeah, the coach is always the easiest move,
and that could happen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, it depends on how you're right.
But if they if they continue to tank or not
show any improvement, I can see a mid season exit
for him. I just I think he's on a little
bit hotter hot seat then well.

Speaker 10 (01:20:31):
For sure he is. But you know, like we just said,
the Colts, it's only one game. It's only one game
for them. What if they come back and play better
football this week the week after next thing. You know,
they're five hundred coming out of September. That's reasonable. You
know that that'll keep you employed. But I just I
have to wonder if some of the offensive magic that
he has instituted down there has expired. We're gonna find

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out there probably the next four or five football games.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
I wonder if he's still well. He made the players,
that staff and personnel also make a difference there, so.

Speaker 10 (01:21:03):
Well, sure, I mean, there's no question he's had some
some difficult situations to deal with. So you know, I
think it'd be premature to say he's done, but I
think it's fair to say the seat is warm.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Okay, indeed, indeed, indeed. So what else is coming up
this weekend? We got we got the Colts. Denver's going
to be here, of course. Yeah, college college football.

Speaker 10 (01:21:27):
I think I think USC it produced an interesting football
game for the ball and maker program. Now, USC is
a past, happy quarterback driven program. They've scored about, oh,
I think seven or eight touchdowns in the air already.
They've played two very lackluster opponents, so they were bound
to roll up some numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
And they did.

Speaker 10 (01:21:49):
But when I look at very ultimate perdue, I mean,
if you think about it, when they went to spring football,
they had a ton of new faces on that football team.
So you know, what can he do with his group,
because you know, he through the transfer portal and what
have you and recruitment. Those guys are more his than
they were the last coach that he replaced, that's for sure.

(01:22:10):
And you know we're gonna find out if what they
can do in terms of pass defense, because USC is
gonna throw the football big time. I think they're like
twenty one point favorite. Can do anything with that. Perhaps
I look for USC to win, But if Purdue can
play spirited football and give them a ball game and
not embarrass themselves, I think that's a huge step in

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the right direction for that program, considering how things have
been there in the past two years.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Can I see a contender again this year?

Speaker 5 (01:22:42):
No, they're not ranked.

Speaker 10 (01:22:43):
They're not ranked, but they've got a lot of talent
and when you know, I don't know how many games
they're going to win, but I would say this, They're
a prolific passing team. Lincoln Riley is a very very
good quarterback coach, and I'd be surprised if they don't
put the ball in there at least forty times against Purdue.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Yeah, okay, hey, since you were last here, the what
do they call it, the bad Luck Bears, the horrible luck,
bad luck Fever? Somehow, some way limped into the playoffs.

Speaker 10 (01:23:16):
They made it in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
They made it in.

Speaker 10 (01:23:19):
Well, that's invested from a standpoint of all the injuries
that they've had to endure as a franchise this year.
I don't know what it means in terms of how
long they'll extend their season. But I think you do
want to be in the playoffs. You do want to
be one of the chosen eight if I think that's
what that is in the WNBA eight teams to make
the playoffs. I think you got a tip to cap

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a little bit to the organization considering how they had
to put a band aid on everything so early and
continue to fight through injuries. So look, you know that's
why these games are played. Obviously, as a low seed,
they're going to draw a high seed. That's not good
on paper, But I'll give them a tip the cap
for hanging in there. I mean, they could have folded

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their tent and been on the outside looking in, and
they're not. So I think that's something to build on
for next year. You've gotta get healthy, you gotta look
at free agency and how you can make your team better,
and then come back hopefully everybody's healthy and in the
same direction.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
I don't think there's anybody that has been there replacing
an injured fever player slash starter that will be there
when the season opens next you know, next year. I
can't see Brandon's not in his head too. Perhaps Sidney Colson,
maybe I'm not really sure.

Speaker 10 (01:24:40):
But well, look, when you've had that many injuries, I'm sorry,
excuse me, When you've had that many injuries, you got
to do two things. Obviously, you got to get healthy,
but you know you bring a healthy roster, or excuse me,
you bring a big roster to training camp because you
can always cut people and I would I would say,
make it the most petitive training camp you can and

(01:25:02):
bring in people who will push others to play even
harder and let the ships swall where they may. But uh,
I mean there's two or three people on that team
contractually they're that are safe, but obviously when but miss
Mitchell is a heck of a player, Miss Guynham, Caitlin
Clark as well. But beyond that, you really have to

(01:25:23):
take a look at what can we do, what tweaks
can we make to improve our roster, And there may
be a way to do that that is in the
works already. But I would agree with you some of
the players were stop gap measures. But some of them
have played admirably on both ends of the floor, and
I think they deserve to be invited to camp. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
I don't know you were about to say, what brand,
go ahead?

Speaker 15 (01:25:50):
I agree with Danny, But I think if I had
to pick one, maybe two people who I think could
get that invite back to the Fever, Nick, Sure, I
will probably say Ari McDonald.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
She definitely she would be over closon for me, and
I think about it.

Speaker 15 (01:26:08):
Yeah, I still I know we talked about Ossy, but honestly,
just just too much of her score and she doesn't
really help facilitating set up shots for the rest of
the team, So if something's not there, she's going to
automatically just go to the basket or take the shot
versus trying to set her team X up for success
also too, so a tough one would be for Osissy,

(01:26:30):
But I would think that would be more later on
down the year.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
I wouldn't have a problem getting not invited her. You
heard me what we were talking yesterday, Brandon, You know
I would. I would. But here I'm going to say
something maybe that's just kind of off the you know
some reason like Tina, are you crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Uh, I think if she's not, I think Kelsey Mitchell
should be at least in the conversation for m v P.
All like he hearing about is Asia Wilson and the
Fecia Collier. That makes sense. Those two ladies are, you know,
they're out of the ozone in terms of what they

(01:27:08):
perform and do. But nobody, nobody has maintained twenty points
a game, willed their team to victory and into the
playoffs more so than Kelsey Mitchell. And she has done
it against all kinds of odds, opposition, things of that nature.
I know that those things probably don't factor in, but

(01:27:29):
what I'm saying is she should at least be in
the conversation because of all the opposition that she's had
to face and yet succeeds and still produces like crazy.
I mean, I just if that's not an MVP, I
don't know what is. And maybe I'm being biased because
it's the hometown, but I don't hear her name being
bandied about at all. All I keep hearing is the
Feicia Collier or Asia Wilson. And believe you me, I

(01:27:52):
have mad, crazy respect for both of their games because
I think they are uber talented. But how can you
not think that Kelsey Mitchell should not be in that
conversation I'm asking Brandon and I had this conversation last night.

Speaker 15 (01:28:07):
I mean, I'm I have to agree with you. Nobody
from what I've seen this season, has had so much
more impact on the game and had to do so
much with less what Kelsey had to do with this
Indiana Fever team, Like I couldn't imagine the Feasta Collier
or the Asia Wilson's would lose this many star players

(01:28:30):
on their team and still rally to make the play.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
With the teams on their back and get them to
the playoffs, get them to the finish line. If that's
not most If that's not the true meaning of the
phrase and the spirit of the award, I don't know
what is. How could you not be the most valuable
when game after game after game, opposition after you know,
our obstacle after obstacle after obstacle, and yet you still
produce and you still will your team uh to not

(01:28:55):
only wins, but into the playoffs. To me, that is
a most valuable player. Nafisha and Asia are going to
get their points. They got their points last year, They're
gonna get their points this year. They're gonna get their
points next year. If the committee just chooses points. And
I just think when you look at it as a
whole overall the picture, if not the MVP. She should

(01:29:16):
certainly be in the conversation, and I don't think she is.

Speaker 10 (01:29:20):
You know, well, I don't. I doubt that she's the
MVP of her team. But I think when you look
at that award historically and sports in general, not just
the WNBA, it's generally going to go to a team
that is excelling as a team now. Injuries obviously aside.
He's had a rough way to go. But teams that
are going to go deep into the playoffs and win

(01:29:42):
the championship, that's where the MVP votes are going to
go historically. I will say this, and I've said this
before and some people sent me some emails to the
contrary about it. When they were healthy, I didn't think
the Fever were a championship contender this year at the
start he did. But I will say this, we won't
really know anything, but could have been based on a

(01:30:03):
myriad of injuries. I will also say, and I'll go
back to this, I would invite this entire roster back
to training camp that's not under contract, and also some
unrestricted free agents, some college players. I would invite a
lot of people to camp, and I would make people
play hard and let the chips fall where they may.

(01:30:24):
There's nothing guaranteed in live little loone sports, and I
don't think they've got enough to rest of the laurels upon.
They could certainly use another player or two who could
spark them, whether it be defensively, come off the bench,
score a few points, you know, grab some rebounds, think
to that nature. Somebody kind of an all around player.
But I won't pretend to know as much about the

(01:30:46):
WNBA as others do, but I think the Fever need
more horsepower in the lineup, even when they're healthy, to
be a championship contender.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
I think that that trio healthy trio uh is a
mighty good start, I don't. I mean, if you've got Boston,
Mitchell and Caitlin you you've got more firepower than most.

Speaker 10 (01:31:12):
You have some firepower. But defensively, this is not good basketball, Steve.
That's all defense and rebound of what's gonna get you
a championship, and that's where they lack currently.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Hmmm, well, okay, okay, I think what Brandon's got any
what do you think defense? They like defense? I don't
think they like as much.

Speaker 15 (01:31:33):
I wouldn't say they lack defense. I will say they
like inconsistency in defense. I mean, they have the talent
there with Leah Boston and Natasha Howard. I just believe
that they're just you know, they play a little bit
too too aggressive and too out of position, which why
I say they like a little bit of consistency at defense,

(01:31:54):
especially compared to like the Minnesota's and the other teams
that's up there, the higher seeds, So I I would
say a little bit more consistency.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Danny Brandon went to a game what the night before last, Yes,
and he was tell Danny what she saw Brandon in
terms of aggression, I guess.

Speaker 15 (01:32:14):
So I had some pretty good seats at the game. Agree,
I Uh, me and some of my coworkers. We went
to the game. We set courtside and so we so
we we we came out the tunnel and me not

(01:32:35):
paying attention. I'm trying to get my phone together because
I'm walking out the tunnel and h right next to me,
literally standing next to me, is Caitlin Clark, and then
I just dropped the phone. And yeah, So but as
far as aggression goes, like, I'm I'm sitting a fourth
road behind the court and three rolls ahead of me.
As Tyrese Haliburton. So Tyese is there and uh, you

(01:32:57):
know he's in his boot and everything, so I'm the Lazer.
They just being really aggressive going for rebounds and they're
diving and hustling for everything, like you can almost hear
the bodies colliding, and that's how physical that it was
that close, and it just made me think, I was like, wow,
like they are really really aggressive right now. There's the
one play where the women fell out of bounds almost
close to Tyree's Halibert and then the whole crowd jumps

(01:33:19):
up like, no, protect Tyree's. But yeah, it's it's it's
way more intense than what I actually thought that I
saw on TV. When you're seeing it live in person
that close, you know, well.

Speaker 10 (01:33:30):
I I'm sorry, go ahead, No. I think I've always
said that the women play hard even when they're not
playing well, it's a fundamentally different game. I think in
some cases it's the fundamentals of the w NBA are
are even sound er. It's played below the rim, So
there's the huge difference between the NBA and the w
NBA as far as I'm concerned. But to Brandon's point, uh,

(01:33:53):
you know, being up close and seeing some of the
the physical assertion, assertion and may plays and just hustling,
you know, diving for loose balls, being your body on
another opponent when you're trying to rebound. Just the physicality.
The women's game is certainly much more physical than people realize.

(01:34:13):
And again, I'm happy that the fever and the playoffs
they gave their fans that moment. And I hope for
all the best in the off season, get healthy, come
back and prove some people wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Yeah, And all I was going to say was, you know,
just to follow up on what Brandon had said. You
know that this season, I read about it and I
heard a couple of interviews about it. There's been a
lot of scrutiny about the refs in the w because
they feel like they need better refs. I guess I
don't know, but they feel like the referees are subpar

(01:34:48):
and are not controlling these games because too many of
the women are getting hurt unnecessarily in some of these games.
Are just the calls and this and that. So that's
just something I'm sure the league look at during the
break what have you. But the refs have come under
scrutiny and I'm sure you.

Speaker 10 (01:35:07):
Well, no one's ever happy with officiating when they lose
a basketball game.

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
That's a.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Injuries It wasn't well.

Speaker 5 (01:35:14):
But again I don't notice.

Speaker 10 (01:35:16):
I don't know that how much referees control injuries as
much as separating fights from occurring and separating players when
when things get tense.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
But I will you know college, I'm well, maybe maybe not,
And I guess you have to defind closer.

Speaker 10 (01:35:34):
You don't want every play reverse, you don't want every
call to dictate policy on how a game is going
to occur. I would agree with you. You expect competent officiating,
and certainly that's what those individuals are paid for. But
it's usually if you look at officiating complaints as far

(01:35:54):
as professional sports or concerns, it's generally looking at X
number of plays that might have went against the team
and in some senses might have been controlling the outcome
or differential in the outcome of a game. Look, I'm
old enough to know two things. No one's ever gonna
quit writing the referees back, and no one's ever gonna

(01:36:17):
quit writing the referees back. You don't want blatant oversight
that could lead to injury. I'll agree with you on that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
Yeah. So back to the Colts game this Sunday against
the Broncos who come to the town of Indianapolis city,
great city of Indianapolis. Did you predict a winner? Did
you say? I didn't hear you.

Speaker 10 (01:36:37):
I have not, but I will say it's a late kick.
I think it's a four or five kickoff. Yeah, I'm
gonna take the Broncos to win the game by less
than a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Okay, Broncos by less than a touchdown. Okay, Well we'll
talk about you.

Speaker 10 (01:36:50):
Know, five or six points whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Yeah, Okay, we'll talk about it next time. Go cold.
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