Isaiah 43:2 — “When you pass through the waters, I will be with you… when you walk through the fire, you will not be burned.”
In today’s episode, Ash and Steph explore one of the most comforting — and confronting — promises in the Bible: hardship is guaranteed, but so is God’s presence.
Steph goes full Bible-nerd (in the best way) as she unpacks how this verse echoes three massive moments in Scripture — the Red Sea, the Jordan River, and the fiery furnace — all reminders that God has always been with His people: at the beginning, in the middle, and at the end of every trial.
Ash and Steph also dive into a powerful idea: what if God uses hardship to grow spiritual maturity in us?
Not to harm us, but to shape us into people who trust Him deeper, stand firmer, and walk closer.
In this episode, we talk about:
-
Why Isaiah 43:2 is rooted in real Israelite history
-
The difference between if hardship comes and when it comes
-
How God prepares us through difficulty, not despite it
-
The call to spiritual maturity in Romans 8:19
-
Why God’s love is the anchor when the water rises
-
Taking your thoughts captive when you feel like God is far
-
The truth that God’s presence is the promise — not an easy life
This episode is tender, challenging, and deeply encouraging — a reminder that whatever you’re walking through, God is not distant, disinterested, or disappointed. He is near, He is present, and He is forming something beautiful in you.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com