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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning. It is eleven o six. I need a drink.
I'm a sip of water.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hold on, I need a drink too. Can we get somedrink?
Most of those are in here.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I felt a little hair ball coming up. Hi everybody,
and welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
This is the first day.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
That's the best opening I've heard in three years. Here.
You know this is good.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm Terry, I'm the one that said it.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I'm Denny Paul and I'm laughing at her.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And I'm Kylin Tally. Please send us a drink.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I got my drink. I got my drink and a
bag of cherries. I'm ready to start the day. Glad
you're here with us. Seventy seven degrees. A little rain
on Monument Circle. Not bad though.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
How's everybody doing?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Jane just sent me a picture of the dog's on
the covers. She hates the thunder.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hey did? My dog does too.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yet I can actually vacuum her with a vacuum cleaner
and she's fun.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I can't bet you can't stand the thunder, the thunder
in the rain.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
That thunder and rain ain't gonna stop anytime soon. It's
gonna be windy and rainy.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oh I don't like the wind. But yeah, that's another
other one that makes her nervous.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
You see that there's a flood watch in place for
central Indiana.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, it's coming from Illinois. My buddies that live in
central Illinois, like Springfield, Decatur, that they're all under flood
watches and they've just been hammered with rain.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You take it seriously, Yeah, take it very serious.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
The crops are okay, I've gone it. We got a
bad start on crops around us. Now Northern Indiana looks
a lot better. But boy, the rainstorms like this can
drive farm drink.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, well, we'll keep you up to date. John Nett
Cruise is with us today.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
How about that. I love having Jot. She's terrific. She's
really great and we're lucky to have her.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We've got a day for you. We're going to be
here for a couple of hours.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know. Congratulations to the w NBA All Start Committee
and everybody here. Pacers, Sports Entertainment, Indy, down Downtown Indie, Inc.
Visit Indy, everybody that came to get all the volunteers,
because truly, everybody we ran into I've run into, has
said that this was just a fantastic visit for them.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
They loved it.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
To hear that they had a great time yesterday with
the twenty five hundred kids that were dribbling balls down
here on one of them.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Cool, I saw you take it fine. They were coming
down from Ohio Street down Meridian to the Circle and
then there must have been a finish line here, the.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Finish line of some sort, and then they just spent
the rest of the day, the kids and parents and
everything they had to offer. But everything at that event
I think was called Bounce, but everything else, the concerts
and the all of the oh they had symposiums and
just everything surrounding the women and sports and celebration. I
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think everybody had a really good time. So you all
did a good job. You did a great job. And
from what I hear, everybody had just the best time.
From where they were from somebody from New York that
was wearing a statue of Liberty hat she's she said,
I've never been to Indianapolis, and she said, I never
thought I would come to Indianapolis. I never thought I
would like Indianapolis, But I love Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Even Ceci was.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Talking about how much fun the players had to here's
a little bit during the NBA w NBA All Star Game.
She obviously was sitting on the sideline, but they got
to interview her during and this is a little bit
of what she said.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
It's been incredible. It's been you know, I think Pace
with Port and Entertainment, our organization, franchise is on the
shremidous job. And I hope the fans have felt. You know,
I've had as much fun as we've had, and I
think all the players have folk a love from everybody.
It's just been a great celebration of the w and
you know where it's at right now, but where it's
going to continue to go. I think, you know, All
Star Weekend's going to look a lot more like this
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from here on out. Phoenix was great last year, but
we certainly top that and now there's a high standard.
People are gonna have to reach it if they want
to host. I guess so we'll just host every year.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Ye about that hosting every year? Because he does it right?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Fine?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Up? Yeah, I mean it brought some money to downtown
and I know that to the area and to everybody
restaurants and stuff. So you know, they showed a good day.
We showed them a good time and they had a
good time. So that is great news. Everybody leaving today,
I'm pretty sure. But in the meantime, we're still here
and we're going to We're not leaving, and there's so
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much to look forward to. I mean, NASCAR is right
around the corner, right, and then the State Fair after that,
and I mean it's just kids are going back to
school August one, August one in this in fact, I
think start this last couple of days in July for
some schools, which is hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
It is just hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Some people are going back this Thursday.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, there's not.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Friday like they have been in the past, but they
just Thursday.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Can you ramped up?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Oh my gosh, yeah, did you like? Did you guys
like going back to school? I never did. I was
always working or as busy as at Scout Campell, and
I never really wanted to go back to school. But
now kids, that's their whole social life, that's everything.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, I love it. But we didn't have that social
life as I was growing up. And I you know,
we lived a few miles out of town, not far,
but far enough that the town kids, you know, they
all hung around and went to the pool. I would
have to find a way to get to some place
if I was going to go down. So I missed kids,
and we didn't have that social connection other than the telephone,
which only had a limited time using.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
So did you have the one that was hanging on
the wall in the kitchen with stretched real.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Far you could take it anywhere, just one phone. We
just had the one phone in the house. Finally, we
may have gotten an extension at some time, but anyway, Yeah,
it's almost time for school. I do want to mention
this before we take a break, because I think it's interesting.
I heard yesterday didn't get much airplay, I don't think,
but Richard Allen has been moved.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
They moved him to Oklahoma or Oklahoma City and that,
you know. My first reaction is he must have gotten
his butt whooped here in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Nobody's talking, but they don't you know, Yeah, they.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Don't know what I'm talking about. I'm convicted murderer Richard
Allen del Phi. It just it just kind of came
out of nowhere. You remember that was December twenty twenty four.
He was sentenced for killing beautiful Abby Williams and Libby German,
but transferred to an out of state prison and he's
in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And that happened yesterday. It yesterday they moved.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I just heard it yesterday. It could have been earlier.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Don't know what happened, don't know what's going on there,
but that happened also. I'm over it now. I'm over
the Astronomer's CEO.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And it wasn't how many different things did I send
you last night when we when we had the Philly
you know fanatic and his they were they were mimicking them.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Everybody bananas and Savannah Bananas did.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Everybody's doing it and they're all funny. But I'm kind
of now I'm moving on.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I saw the AI.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He's he's gone now from the company.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, so now even AI is
getting involved with it. It's just hilarious stuff. But I
don't know but to think.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
About that, what it is, what that one moment in
time did for him, and how viral that went. I mean,
it's not like it's never happened before, right, and it happens.
We said yesterday a third of managers are having some
kind of a fling with somebody in the office.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
You know my first rule right? Well out, oh it's
my first role, Kylin, what's my first rule?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Men are stupid?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Learned to work around it, right. But then this hr director,
she's as culpable, and you know she's the one that's
supposed to be carrying the flag for that stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Can I say Hulu's was my favorite. Hulu even jumped
on the bandwagon and instead of just doing a recreation
of the moment, they posted this little clip from Modern Family.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Got on Fire on TV.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
God, I remember this story.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Here's the thing, the kisscam is only supposed to be
for the enjoyment of the people at the game. They
never show that on TV. What people do in the
privacy of their own sports arena should be their own business.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
As they're captaining the reminder, what happens on the jumbo
Tron does not always stay on the Jumbo tron.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And Kai, you told me that he resigned his position. Yeah, yes,
he's done that.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
How long he's done? Don't know about her.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I wonder what they're going to put on their resumes.
They're awful young to not have the ability.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I think he probably be retired for a long time,
probably made a ton of money, whatever it is, But
I'm kind of just moved on now for at least
to my social media feed because that's the only thing
coming up because I looked one time and that's all
I'm getting. Now We're gonna have to take a break.
But coming up next, there's a sports collector dealer, through
a manifesto on Facebook, exposed one of the largest sports
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collectible's forgery ring in a bizarre fraud and forgery case
that is still developing. Just after the FBI rated two
locations in Westfield last week.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
We've got more on that story coming up next.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You're listening to the First Day on ninety three WIBC.
Welcome back to the First Day ninety three WIBC. Terry Stacy,
Denny Smith, and Kylon Tally.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Did you hear this?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The FBI rated a couple of locations in Westfield last week,
and at the same time they discovered a deceased individual
now reported to be sports memorabilia dealer Brett Lamueux that
according to the Hamilton County Corner, I saw the story
at Sports collectors Digest dot com. Brett lamieue admitted in
a manifesto on Facebook claiming he sold more than four
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million dollars of forged and fake memorabilia items, scamming millions
in illegal sales. Maybe you've got one of those pieces.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The story, as I.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Mentioned at Sports collectors Digest dot com, was written by
national freelance sports journalist Greg Bates, who I had a
chance to talk to earlier in the week.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And I said to him, Greg, this is a crazy story.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
Yeah, wild stuff. I got tipped off last week that
something in the industry might happen, But I mean it
was a bombshell for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Tell us what you know about Brett.
Speaker 8 (09:36):
Lemieux, Well, what I've seen you mentioned the manifesto. He
put that out. We don't know if it's if he
scheduled it because he ended up committing suicide, so we
don't know if he put it out there and then
committed suicide or scheduled slip, you know, after he was dead. However,
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it was a wild situation I found out about, and
that's after we published a story that that the Field
PD put out a statement that somebody had died. We're like, wow,
this is this is crazy. So he's putting out crazy
numbers that like you said four million items sold, three
hundred and fifty million dollars in sales. He's saying that
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between five hundred and seven hundred million dollars was possibly
in their warehouses or buildings that they have defected to
flood the market. So this guy has been doing it,
he's saying for twenty years. In his manifesto, he said.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
And he.
Speaker 8 (10:35):
Had done him, and he had mentioned cold conspirators allegedly.
Obviously we can't say who they are because we don't
know if they're they're part of it. And you know,
it includes big names like Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes
and just huge names in the industry, Aaron Judge. So
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we don't know what's real and what's not. I've seen
some stuff from a fanatics the executive saying there's no
way it was the magnitude of what this guy is saying.
And obviously there's no way to probably figure that out
now since he took that to his grave. So there
might be a lot of unanswered questions.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
What type of memorabilia was mister Lemieux selling. Was it
primarily autographs?
Speaker 8 (11:20):
It was all kinds of stuff, but it was primarily, yeah,
autograph stuff because he had an autograph ten the Sononomo pen.
So it sounded like over the years they perfected these
certain autographs, so Patrick Mahomes's autograph and Aaron Judge and
Tom Brady and got them perfected where they look exactly
like the real thing. And I guess they would bring in,
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according to Lemieux and his post, they would bring in
these athletes and actually do signings. Maybe they would get
you know, a thousand signed, and then after the fact
they'd go and do autopen and maybe do like ten
or twenty or thirty thousand more. They're mixing that in
there to show, hey, we did have this athlete in.
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Nobody's going to know how many autographs that person actually signed.
So these are legit and apparently they looked identical and
some had passed you know, authentication and stuff like that,
but they were also faking these holograms and be like
certificates of authenticity from these companies, which is very tough.
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So you could actually somebody could actually look up like
the hologram number that's on these if it was purchased
from say like James Spence Authentication or from Fanatics or
mill Creek Sports and look at that and be like, well,
the numbers match up, it's got to be real, but no,
it's vague.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Wow, you know, I feel like he knew he was
about to get caught. Greg Bates is with US national
freelance sports journalist. Is our guest? Is the business of
forged and fake memorabilia a topic even before this story?
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Oh yeah, it's been around for a long time. There
was operations Bullpen about twenty five thirty years ago, and
all kind of started with Tony Gwen who was with
the Padres. I guess he had gone into the pro
shops at the stadium one time and looked at a
ball this was like mid nineties or mid to late
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nineties and looked at a ball and said, well, I
didn't sign this ball. So then this started a whole
you know, FBI looking into all this, and there was
huge busts that have happened. There was actually a big
forgery ring that was taken down earlier this year. I
had looked into it five years ago, wrote a story
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on it, talked to a bunch of sources and stuff,
and they knew about this guy and they finally tracked
him down and busted this Wendell Rogers in McKinney, Texas.
So that's in the works right now. So stuff is
popping up. I just talked to a of a collector
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last week who kind of just stumbled upon some fake
autographs and stuff online. He was buying some basketball cards
and stuff was a lot cheaper than it should be
and all that. So I talked to him. I'm actually
going to have a different story on that. I mean,
it's prevalent obviously, where big money is, people are going
to try to sneak in there and fake stuff and
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make money illegally.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, it is big business for some for sure, big money.
How does it affect or how will it affect buyers
and sellers or does this affect them at all?
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Yeah? I think it will. But I think the folks
who want to buy stuff are going to go to
probably reputable dealers and or you know, go to a
signing and actually get signings in person. I mean, obviously,
the only way to actually know your thing was signed
is to actually see it get signed, because some of
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these places will send you, let's say, a photo. I
have a Brett Farm signed helmet, and there was a
photo sent to me. I about this probably fifteen years ago.
And there was a photo of him signing helmets. Well
who knows that was the helmet that he signed, but
it comes off that way. So people, you know, the
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only way to just make sure that doesn't happen is
to go through reputable dealers and everything like that. I've
talked to, you know, some autograph folks sell stuff and
they said, yeah, that's you know, people are still gonna
buy stuff. They just need to do their due diligence
and make sure that it is correct, get it authenticated.
You know, they're just going to have to put in
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extra time for sure. I mean, there's probably a bunch
of fakes out there, but there's real stuff out there
as well.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
The company that Brett Lemeux owned, was it called mister
man Cave?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Is that the name?
Speaker 8 (15:49):
Yeah? Man, there were some other ones, but that was
the main one. Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
All right.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So if anybody listening that's a sports memorabilia collector, would
they have dealt directly with mister man Cave, to be
cuteous if they have a fake or forged autograph or
could they have gotten it anywhere?
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Yeah, I would check if you if anybody bought anything
from mister Mancave either like through eBay or other marketplaces
or actually mister Mancave dot com. I think that website
is still up. I know Brettlemue dropped his personal like
Facebook page or whomever dropped it, but like these fake
businesses and whatever are still up there so people can
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go on it's mister like mister spelled out Mancave dot com.
And then I think you can, you know, look up
ebaysellers and find mister Mancave as well. I mean it's shocking.
You'll look at some of the stuff. You look at
real examples and in most untraing eyes can't tell a difference.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Wow, this is such a story, what a crazy story.
Sports collectors Digest dot com is where I found this
story written by Greg Bates, our guest, and I know
you're going to be continue that you will continue following
this story and others.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So how can listeners follow your work?
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Yeah, on X is probably the best way. It's at
Greg a Baits b Ates and I'll be having updates
when we get stuff. I should be having a story
coming out later today for sure, and we have the
National Sports Coctors Convention in a week and a half,
which to tie me on this is amazing. There's so
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it's going to be the talk of the convention. In
the last two years, they've broken records for over one
hundred thousand people at the five day event, so they're
expecting similar crowds and it'll be interesting to see what
the trickle down will be, if any, at the convention.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Greg, thanks so much for your time today.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Thank you, Terry, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Coming up, Indie Shorts Film Festival begins this week, including
a documentary about one of the last actual video stores
anywhere and it's right here in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And some training wolves right here in Indiana. Did you
know that? Do you know we trained wolves?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Will We'll learn about He's got to do it. There
you go. News is next night, WYBC. Good morning.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
We've got a little heavy rain to our north and
east of downtown Indianapolis. Looks like between Fisher's Noblesville, Atlanta
getting hit with some pretty heavy rain.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
But right here in the downtown area, we're just oh
wait a minute, let me look out my back. Oh,
I can see to the north.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
It's very dark, but a little bit of light rain
here in downtown Indianapolis. Seventy seven degrees and this is
why it's going to be today. I'm Terry Stacy along
with Denny Smith.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Good morning, Kylon Tally.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
The rain's coming, especially later on this week. But something
else that's coming this week is the Indy Shorts Film
Festival starting this week July twenty second through twenty seventh,
And we love spotlighting some of the Indiana and local
filmmakers and all the stories that they bring to the festival,
so we're going to feature some today. Our first feature
is part of the Indiana Spotlight three program that's happening
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Saturday this Saturday, July twenty sixth at four point thirty
at the Tobias Theater at Newfields and it's called Hometown Video.
It's about one of the last video rental stores in America,
located right here in Brookville, Indiana. And we have a
director and editor of the film, Alex Rogers, to talk
about it. Alex, thanks for spending some time on a Sunday.
Speaker 9 (19:12):
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 10 (19:13):
Guys, appreciate it this film.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
How did you decide? I mean, how did this happen?
I guess how was this documentary born?
Speaker 9 (19:22):
So? I think I was just on Facebook and I
saw like a news feature on Hometown Video, and I
collect DVDs and VHS stapes myself, so I didn't realize
we still had a video rental store here in the state.
So I had to make a trip down there, and
I bought some stuff from Allen and just kind of
talked to him and asked if he'd be interested in
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doing a short documentary sometime, and then I sent him
some of my work and then we set up a
data just go crash his space and talk to him
and some of the people that frequent the store.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
It's amazing how technology chases us down kids that don't
know how to use a rotary phone. And I would
say the same about a VHS or a video disc
that we all grew up with. But Terry and I
were laughing because I remember taking a VHS back and
if I hadn't rewound it, they'll ding you for it.
But it was such a culture within that store. I'm
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looking forward to seeing this man.
Speaker 9 (20:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's amazing that's still around. So I
kind of wanted to spread the word and show it
some love and hopefully hopefully we can get some more
people to go see al In at Hometown Video.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
You've gotten some love with your films in the past.
You won the Indiana Spotlight Narrative Award from the Heartland
Film Festival this last fall, and so going into this
one that's a documentary, what was your approach and how
is it a little bit different to make it still
an interesting story beyond just the bare bones of it.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Yeah, the feature that we did last year, last years
the summer, that was just a completely different process. You know,
we shot that over the course of a month. There
is a lot of pre production planning there. There was
a little less of that going in. It was just
me and Matt Spear and Curtis Towersock and my film buddies.
We just went there for a day and I had
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some questions prepared, but we just kind of let the
day unfold and just tried to be, you know, present
and then represent what we captured as best we could.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It's a very family oriented business, this family that has
come together to keep this operation open. And I'm guessing
you saw the struggle too. It's got to be hard
for him to stay alive, that kind of the hometown
video to stay alive?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Is that right?
Speaker 9 (21:36):
I didn't get the specifics on it, but yeah, I
don't know how hard it would be to keep this up,
but he's still plugging along. And the prices are still
like what you'd see in the early two thousands or
the nineties. You know, you can rent like three movies
for or you know, a movie for three days for
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ninety nine cents. So, oh my gosh, it's really keeping
the video store culture.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
It's really the well, it's really the only competition left
for Netflix. Netflix reported earnings this week and they were up.
And I keep asking myself, how many people you know,
are still trying to get onto Netflix? How man, how
much bigger can that market be? But here's this one
guy slugging it out in Brookville for three days. That's
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that's the competition for Netflix right there.
Speaker 9 (22:26):
Yeah, that price is hard to beat. And you know
he's always he's getting new titles and he programs the
store in a really interesting way like he's yeah, he's
putting in the work.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Wow. Well, it's it's quite a challenge. I hope he
makes it. And you know what, this is just a
family adventure right here. But he's up against goliath, that's
for sure.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Yeahl Alex Rogers a director and editor of Hometown Video
and thank you for spotlighting this Brookville, Indiana video rental store.
And I love it being in our backyard that we
can go and visit it ourselves, share just with our
last minute here. What was your favorite moment behind the
scenes of filming this this documentary.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
We met Alan's sister as we were packing up, and
I wish we had gotten her on camera, but she
kind of told us about the history at the store
a little bit more and like Alan's journey with that,
and I just thought that that was really endearing. It
is like Allan and his family just making it run.
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You know, he's there pretty much seven days a week.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You know, I also understand this. Do they also do
they repair? And they do?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
They do?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
They could do more than just read videos, right, I
think nowadays they are.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
Yeah, I think he does. I think he can prepare
some machines and he can digitize your tapes and stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, so he's growing terry.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You can bring your CDs to him.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Well, I could bring my CDs to him. Brookville is
a great little part of our state. It's a beautiful place.
So don't let fishing out in Brookville.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Go watch the film Indiana Spotlight three category. It's Saturday
four thirty. That's a Tobias Theater at Newfield. You can
ask Alex some questions yourself. He will be there participating
in the film. They'll have a little Q and a
session afterwards, or you can watch it online at Indy
shworts dot org for all the information and to buy
your tickets. Alex, thank you again for taking time on
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the center. I'll us share about this.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Here's a funny thing my whole life. I wanted to
interview mister Rogers. We just do it.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Off the bucket list here if we go. Nice to
meet you Alex again.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Indie shorts dot org.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
The film festival is running again July twenty second through
twenty seventh. And another one. Terry will be talking with
one of the chefs that is a film subject in
Indiana Spotlight one category. We'll talk to her next weekend,
so be sure to stay in touch with with that one.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, and then coming up, I mean there's another and
the Kyla and I both talked about that we thought
was very interesting and it's about training wolves.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yes, it's part of the Indiana Spotlight two block. We're
going to celebrate all of the filmmakers around. It's called
Calling the Wild. Yes, it follows a wolf trainer at
Wolf Park in Battleground, Indiana, and we have the wolf
trainer to talk about it, Ryan Talbot, behavioral En Richmond,
and training manager with Wolf Park here to talk. Thank
you also, Ryan first beending some time on a Sunday.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
Thank you for having me. Great to be here.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Let's start off with your background, because I don't know
about you. I wish training wolves. How did you get
into this?
Speaker 10 (25:36):
Yeah, so it's kind of interesting. I took a kind
of weird journey to get here. So I did sort
of start to fall in love with wolves when I
was probably a teenager, but didn't really know what they were.
I like the idea of wolves, I think. And then
so I actually went to undergrad for computer engineering and
that's actually Brendan Butter. I'm a software engineer. I right
did a collection software for a research institution back in Virginia.
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But early early on in that kind of career, I
got more interested in wolves and wolf dogs, and I thought, man,
you know, gee, if I had if I had a
wolf dog, that would be that would be like a
really sturdy companion animal. For you know, my first dog. Maybe.
So I started doing my homework and you know, search
around the internet trying to find out what I could
about you wolf, dogs and wolves. And yeah, that was
(26:21):
not a not something I was gonna need as a pet,
not something I wanted to get as I learned more
about it. But in the in the process of that,
I found Wolf Park's website really kind of vibed well
with with their ethics and how they were working with
the animals and how they saw them, and I thought, geez,
that's a that's a place that I want to visit,
you know, kind of interact with more sponsored some of
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their animals, and they offered behavior and training seminars at
the time, so folks, anybody from any walk of life
could come and learn more about wolves, potentially get hands
on with them. The wolves here Park are very very
well socialized, meaning they're very comfortable around humans, which is
important for making sure that they have a wonderful quality
of life while they're living with us. I did that
back in two thousand and six, and boy, I was
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immediately booked kind of caught the behavior bugs through everything
I thought I knew about dogs kind of out the window.
And the kind of went from there to consumed everything
I could from wolf Park and other sources of information,
going to conferences, going to workshops, trying to learn anything
everything I could about animal training, animal behavior, and that
kind of got me to today in a very roundabout, you know,
sort of trajectory, but something I've been very passionate about
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since then.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
You had said earlier that you threw everything you knew
out the door about them, and what was something surprising
that you learned about them that would be good for
people to know.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Yeah. So one of the big things I think, and
there's still something that floats around kind of in the
sort of popular opinions of dog behavior, is that like
there was no there was no like needing to behave
as a quote unquote alpha. You didn't have to come
in and try to dominate them like physically or psychologically
(27:55):
or anything like that in order to be safe. I've
got quite the opposite. Really, All of the all the
training interactions were very much relationship based. But that relationship
is very healthy, and that was a conversation with partners
rather than you know, trying to you know, give commands
and compel them to do your bidding and things like that,
(28:16):
and it was interesting because like you would think, oh, well,
of course, like you know, with a wild animally you
have to be like that. But the real big takeaway
for me was, oh no, actually, probably with any living
organism you should probably be like that.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
You know.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
With my it changed how I worked with my own
dogs at home. It changed how like you can't un
see it once you see it, So it really changed
how I I view pretty much every other organism on
the planet at this point is you know, all right,
they've actually got their own wants, i wants, desires and
needs in their head, and it's kind of our job
to figure out some way to communicate with them, to
see if we can come to some sort of mutual uh,
(28:51):
you know, beneficial contracts for both of us to you know,
have a have a good day. Essentially.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
You can see the behind the scenes of what Ryan
does wolf Park in Battleground, Indiana during his Indiana Shorts
of film calling the Wild, part of the Indiana Spotlight
two block. It will be streaming virtually at indi Shorts
dot org, or you can watch it in person Saturday,
July twenty sixth at two fifteen pm at the New
Fields Tobias Theater. I'm personally excited to see how you
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work with the wolves and see the behind the scenes.
But people can also do that in person by going
to wolf Park, right.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
They absolutely can.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (29:27):
We are open every day but Wednesday from three to
eight pm, and then on Saturdays we are open from
nine point thirty am until eight pm, including our how
Light program on Saturday, which is usually pretty fun.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
They've got summer camps, they've got tours. You can plan
your visit through their website. You can even volunteer. Plenty
of ways to get active and involved. Ryan, thank you
so much for taking the time today and telling us
a little bit about what you do. But again, if
you want to watch it, go watch the movie Calling
the Wild Ryan, thank you so much.
Speaker 10 (29:57):
Thank you so much. Yes, it's been fun.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Yeah, come to see you.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
If you want to go see them, visit Wolfpark dot org.
And then if you want to get some tickets to
go watch all of these Indiana Spotlight films and more
indi shorts dot org for tickets and all of the
information on that.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
That's our little actress, that's our little one doing the
movie stuff, movie news.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
You know what can I mention, please, I have a
play coming up, and if you're in Franklin, just because
it's right down the road, I do have a part
in our town that's playing with our Town Play, Franklin Players,
and it's this next weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday. So
i'd say, I mean, if you want to come, come
watch a fun production. That's a pretty good one.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
It's a little depressing, but.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
In life, it's our town. I mean, it's not your fault, it.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Just it just is.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
You're not talking about your performance. You're talking about this
great story.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
It's as old show, I feel like, as old as time. Anyway, Kyland.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
The best place to get tickets is Facebook.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It is free.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
I should mention that it's free. Donations accepted, but you
still have to reserve it ticket. So go to their
Facebook page, Our Town Players, Franklin if you want to
come by and see a performance.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Gotcha, Thank you, Thank you, little one. She's terrific.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Flood watches in place for all of central Indiana beginning
this afternoon lasting until Monday evening. We've got multiple rounds
of showers and storms producing some pretty heavy.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Rainfall in our state. Right now, downtown Indianapolis. It's on
and off.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
But to our north around in Hamilton County and beyond
the north of that, some pretty heavy stuff coming down,
So be careful watch what you're doing. We've got Denny
coming up.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I hope you like it.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
It's a little depressing, but it's a warring.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
It's eleven forty eight Denny with depressing news coming up
after the break.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Ninety three WIBC. For those of you watching on YouTube,
what does my shirt mean? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
It says July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
You've got a friend in Denny.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
What happened back then?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You've got a friend in Denny.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
That was a long time ago in a galaxy?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Your birthday?
Speaker 4 (32:01):
No, it's today, well nineteen sixty.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Nineteen sixty Jenny said, Oh, you've got it fifty six
years ago.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Denny.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Oh yeah, you got a friend? All right?
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Give it to us.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
A minute.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You probably saw all the hubbub about the Genius Act.
No you didn't see it.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
I was.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I did signing thing and Trump made a very funny comment,
and of course people are taking the test. They said
the Act was named after him, which I thought was
a cute way to break the tension. But the Genius
Act is guiding and establishing national innovation for US, and
it's done through stable coins. Now, Terry, do you know
what a stable coin?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Okay, do you know what you've heard of cryptocurrency? Yes, okay,
you've heard of bitcoin? Yea, all right, So a stable coin,
somebody issues a whole lot of stable coin, but it's
backed by some asset, whether you would usually be gold and.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Silver or in fact by some asset.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah. Well, as opposed to crypto currency, which we nobody
has ever figured out what it's backed by. There's just
so many crypto There's just so many bitcoins, and supposedly
they're rare and they're used as a medium of exchange. Well,
the Genius Act was passed by the US House Representatives
and it went to the President's desk, and everybody is saying,
this sounds so futuristic and so cool. Actually it goes
(33:20):
back to eighteen sixty three, and in eighteen sixty three
that's how they financed the Civil War in the North.
That was kind of crazy. Well, they had this, it
was kind of funky. They used bonds, but at the
time they were very similar to what we are using
these stable coins for. So everybody's trying to figure out, Okay,
(33:40):
what are we trying to do. I think we're trying
to convert out our currency from the Federal Reserve notes
to something else. I think that's the intent. The problem
with it is that this is how wars are also financed.
They figure out a way to make people pay through
taxes or through some scheme to pay for things that
(34:01):
nobody else could. You wouldn't accept it if you're going
to be taxed for it, if it went through government
to start a new bill. So people are getting a
little bit concerned about what they're seeing. Imagine a world.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Is that what they're thinking about, that this is maybe
preparing for some kind of to fund a war.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I think it's a foregone conclusion that something bad is
going to happen in Europe. Trump is recognized that, and
he saw he's selling weapons to Europe, but he's not
going to participate. He'll sell the weapons to him, but
he's not sending American soldiers over there. And this whole
ultimatum between Ukraine and Putin. Putin's a thug and you're
not going to push him around. And you can give
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him fifty days and or you're going to impose all
of these tariffs on him. You know, I don't think
that's going to end very very well. But the whole
idea is is that with a genius Act. It sounds
like it's very tech savvy, but it raises serious questions.
We are trying to back our currency, the US dollar,
with a cryptocurrency that's backed by something else. Hope to
(34:58):
goodness that they back it withvicious metals. You know, the
Constitution UH said that we that our currency was supposed
to be gold and silver, and so the we've sort
of gotten away from that. And I think that Trump's
got a real issue with the Federal Reserve and this
might be his way to do an end around on
the federal reserve. So keep your eyes and ears open.
It sounds tech savvy, but quietly you got to remember
(35:21):
that when we have things like this, if we get
government too involved, just ask the gun dealers and the
bullion dealers. They get debanked. You know, people won't let
them have checking accounts at their bank because they're a
gun store, because they sell bullion. With a Genius Act,
that could be very much possible that they just debank you,
and so I'm very skeptical of it, a little bit
(35:43):
concerned you have.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
To end up.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Excuse me, I have a question. I know we have
to go. Just in about a minute, you said bouillon.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Bullion gold and silver medals.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Oh, I thought you meant the little cubes.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
You are so precious, no commodities bullion, old bullion Sylvia.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Wait, what is that brought like? That's the little right,
it's their little cubes.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
And the ladies you have got to get off your
social media and start reading finance.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, I know we're pretty present. I will say those
are those are worth a little bit.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, okay, so the bullion, we got that clear. That
is not soup.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
No, it's not Listen, this is slick. It's modern that
pay attention. There's the devil's in the details, and we
don't know what those details.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I don't like all the uncertainty.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
It makes me very nervous. Makes great, We've got another hour,
makes you ladies? All right, We've got another hour to
go with lots of good stuff. I promise you we
will do that after today's top stories. Thanks for joining
us here on the first day ninety three, w IBC
Good morning. It is eleven o six. I need a drink.
I'm a sip of water.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hold on, I need a drink too. Can we get somedrink?
Most of those are in here.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I felt a little hair ball coming up. Hi everybody,
and welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
This is the first day.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
That's the best opening I've heard in three years. Here.
You know this is good.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm Terry, I'm the one that said it.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I'm Denny Paul and I'm laughing at her.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And I'm Kylin Tally. Please send us a drink.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I got my drink. I got my drink and a
bag of cherries. I'm ready to start the day. Glad
you're here with us. Seventy seven degrees. A little rain
on Monument Circle. Not bad though.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
How's everybody doing?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Jane just sent me a picture of the dog's on
the covers. She hates the thunder.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hey did? My dog does too.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yet I can actually vacuum her with a vacuum cleaner
and she's fun.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I can't bet you can't stand the thunder, the thunder
in the rain.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
That thunder and rain ain't gonna stop anytime soon. It's
gonna be windy and rainy.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oh I don't like the wind. But yeah, that's another
other one that makes her nervous.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
You see that there's a flood watch in place for
central Indiana.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, it's coming from Illinois. My buddies that live in
central Illinois, like Springfield, Decatur, that they're all under flood
watches and they've just been hammered with rain.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You take it seriously, Yeah, take it very serious.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
The crops are okay, I've gone it. We got a
bad start on crops around us. Now Northern Indiana looks
a lot better. But boy, the rainstorms like this can
drive farm drink.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, well, we'll keep you up to date. John Nett
Cruise is with us today.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
How about that. I love having Jot. She's terrific. She's
really great and we're lucky to have her.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We've got a day for you. We're going to be
here for a couple of hours.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know. Congratulations to the w NBA All Start Committee
and everybody here. Pacers, Sports Entertainment, Indy, down Downtown Indie, Inc.
Visit Indy, everybody that came to get all the volunteers,
because truly, everybody we ran into I've run into, has
said that this was just a fantastic visit for them.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
They loved it.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
To hear that they had a great time yesterday with
the twenty five hundred kids that were dribbling balls down
here on one of them.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Cool, I saw you take it fine. They were coming
down from Ohio Street down Meridian to the Circle and
then there must have been a finish line here, the.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Finish line of some sort, and then they just spent
the rest of the day, the kids and parents and
everything they had to offer. But everything at that event
I think was called Bounce, but everything else, the concerts
and the all of the oh they had symposiums and
just everything surrounding the women and sports and celebration. I
(02:36):
think everybody had a really good time. So you all
did a good job. You did a great job. And
from what I hear, everybody had just the best time.
From where they were from somebody from New York that
was wearing a statue of Liberty hat she's she said,
I've never been to Indianapolis, and she said, I never
thought I would come to Indianapolis. I never thought I
would like Indianapolis, But I love Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Even Ceci was.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Talking about how much fun the players had to here's
a little bit during the NBA w NBA All Star Game.
She obviously was sitting on the sideline, but they got
to interview her during and this is a little bit
of what she said.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
It's been incredible. It's been you know, I think Pace
with Port and Entertainment, our organization, franchise is on the
shremidous job. And I hope the fans have felt. You know,
I've had as much fun as we've had, and I
think all the players have folk a love from everybody.
It's just been a great celebration of the w and
you know where it's at right now, but where it's
going to continue to go. I think, you know, All
Star Weekend's going to look a lot more like this
(03:31):
from here on out. Phoenix was great last year, but
we certainly top that and now there's a high standard.
People are gonna have to reach it if they want
to host. I guess so we'll just host every year.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Ye about that hosting every year? Because he does it right?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Fine?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Up? Yeah, I mean it brought some money to downtown
and I know that to the area and to everybody
restaurants and stuff. So you know, they showed a good day.
We showed them a good time and they had a
good time. So that is great news. Everybody leaving today,
I'm pretty sure. But in the meantime, we're still here
and we're going to We're not leaving, and there's so
(04:03):
much to look forward to. I mean, NASCAR is right
around the corner, right, and then the State Fair after that,
and I mean it's just kids are going back to
school August one, August one in this in fact, I
think start this last couple of days in July for
some schools, which is hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
It is just hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Some people are going back this Thursday.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, there's not.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Friday like they have been in the past, but they
just Thursday.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Can you ramped up?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Oh my gosh, yeah, did you like? Did you guys
like going back to school? I never did. I was
always working or as busy as at Scout Campell, and
I never really wanted to go back to school. But
now kids, that's their whole social life, that's everything.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, I love it. But we didn't have that social
life as I was growing up. And I you know,
we lived a few miles out of town, not far,
but far enough that the town kids, you know, they
all hung around and went to the pool. I would
have to find a way to get to some place
if I was going to go down. So I missed kids,
and we didn't have that social connection other than the telephone,
which only had a limited time using.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
So did you have the one that was hanging on
the wall in the kitchen with stretched real.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Far you could take it anywhere, just one phone. We
just had the one phone in the house. Finally, we
may have gotten an extension at some time, but anyway, Yeah,
it's almost time for school. I do want to mention
this before we take a break, because I think it's interesting.
I heard yesterday didn't get much airplay, I don't think,
but Richard Allen has been moved.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
They moved him to Oklahoma or Oklahoma City and that,
you know. My first reaction is he must have gotten
his butt whooped here in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Nobody's talking, but they don't you know, Yeah, they.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Don't know what I'm talking about. I'm convicted murderer Richard
Allen del Phi. It just it just kind of came
out of nowhere. You remember that was December twenty twenty four.
He was sentenced for killing beautiful Abby Williams and Libby German,
but transferred to an out of state prison and he's
in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And that happened yesterday. It yesterday they moved.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I just heard it yesterday. It could have been earlier.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Don't know what happened, don't know what's going on there,
but that happened also. I'm over it now. I'm over
the Astronomer's CEO.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And it wasn't how many different things did I send
you last night when we when we had the Philly
you know fanatic and his they were they were mimicking them.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Everybody bananas and Savannah Bananas did.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Everybody's doing it and they're all funny. But I'm kind
of now I'm moving on.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I saw the AI.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He's he's gone now from the company.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, so now even AI is
getting involved with it. It's just hilarious stuff. But I
don't know but to think.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
About that, what it is, what that one moment in
time did for him, and how viral that went. I mean,
it's not like it's never happened before, right, and it happens.
We said yesterday a third of managers are having some
kind of a fling with somebody in the office.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
You know my first rule right? Well out, oh it's
my first role, Kylin, what's my first rule?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Men are stupid?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Learned to work around it, right. But then this hr director,
she's as culpable, and you know she's the one that's
supposed to be carrying the flag for that stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Can I say Hulu's was my favorite. Hulu even jumped
on the bandwagon and instead of just doing a recreation
of the moment, they posted this little clip from Modern Family.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Got on Fire on TV.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
God, I remember this story.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Here's the thing, the kisscam is only supposed to be
for the enjoyment of the people at the game. They
never show that on TV. What people do in the
privacy of their own sports arena should be their own business.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
As they're captaining the reminder, what happens on the jumbo
Tron does not always stay on the Jumbo tron.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And Kai, you told me that he resigned his position. Yeah, yes,
he's done that.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
How long he's done? Don't know about her.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I wonder what they're going to put on their resumes.
They're awful young to not have the ability.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I think he probably be retired for a long time,
probably made a ton of money, whatever it is, But
I'm kind of just moved on now for at least
to my social media feed because that's the only thing
coming up because I looked one time and that's all
I'm getting. Now We're gonna have to take a break.
But coming up next, there's a sports collector dealer, through
a manifesto on Facebook, exposed one of the largest sports
(08:19):
collectible's forgery ring in a bizarre fraud and forgery case
that is still developing. Just after the FBI rated two
locations in Westfield last week.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
We've got more on that story coming up next.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You're listening to the First Day on ninety three WIBC.
Welcome back to the First Day ninety three WIBC. Terry Stacy,
Denny Smith, and Kylon Tally.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Did you hear this?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The FBI rated a couple of locations in Westfield last week,
and at the same time they discovered a deceased individual
now reported to be sports memorabilia dealer Brett Lamueux that
according to the Hamilton County Corner, I saw the story
at Sports collectors Digest dot com. Brett lamieue admitted in
a manifesto on Facebook claiming he sold more than four
(09:04):
million dollars of forged and fake memorabilia items, scamming millions
in illegal sales. Maybe you've got one of those pieces.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The story, as I.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Mentioned at Sports collectors Digest dot com, was written by
national freelance sports journalist Greg Bates, who I had a
chance to talk to earlier in the week.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And I said to him, Greg, this is a crazy story.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
Yeah, wild stuff. I got tipped off last week that
something in the industry might happen, But I mean it
was a bombshell for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Tell us what you know about Brett.
Speaker 8 (09:36):
Lemieux, Well, what I've seen you mentioned the manifesto. He
put that out. We don't know if it's if he
scheduled it because he ended up committing suicide, so we
don't know if he put it out there and then
committed suicide or scheduled slip, you know, after he was dead. However,
(09:57):
it was a wild situation I found out about, and
that's after we published a story that that the Field
PD put out a statement that somebody had died. We're like, wow,
this is this is crazy. So he's putting out crazy
numbers that like you said four million items sold, three
hundred and fifty million dollars in sales. He's saying that
(10:18):
between five hundred and seven hundred million dollars was possibly
in their warehouses or buildings that they have defected to
flood the market. So this guy has been doing it,
he's saying for twenty years. In his manifesto, he said.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
And he.
Speaker 8 (10:35):
Had done him, and he had mentioned cold conspirators allegedly.
Obviously we can't say who they are because we don't
know if they're they're part of it. And you know,
it includes big names like Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes
and just huge names in the industry, Aaron Judge. So
(10:56):
we don't know what's real and what's not. I've seen
some stuff from a fanatics the executive saying there's no
way it was the magnitude of what this guy is saying.
And obviously there's no way to probably figure that out
now since he took that to his grave. So there
might be a lot of unanswered questions.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
What type of memorabilia was mister Lemieux selling. Was it
primarily autographs?
Speaker 8 (11:20):
It was all kinds of stuff, but it was primarily, yeah,
autograph stuff because he had an autograph ten the Sononomo pen.
So it sounded like over the years they perfected these
certain autographs, so Patrick Mahomes's autograph and Aaron Judge and
Tom Brady and got them perfected where they look exactly
like the real thing. And I guess they would bring in,
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according to Lemieux and his post, they would bring in
these athletes and actually do signings. Maybe they would get
you know, a thousand signed, and then after the fact
they'd go and do autopen and maybe do like ten
or twenty or thirty thousand more. They're mixing that in
there to show, hey, we did have this athlete in.
(12:04):
Nobody's going to know how many autographs that person actually signed.
So these are legit and apparently they looked identical and
some had passed you know, authentication and stuff like that,
but they were also faking these holograms and be like
certificates of authenticity from these companies, which is very tough.
(12:26):
So you could actually somebody could actually look up like
the hologram number that's on these if it was purchased
from say like James Spence Authentication or from Fanatics or
mill Creek Sports and look at that and be like, well,
the numbers match up, it's got to be real, but no,
it's vague.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Wow, you know, I feel like he knew he was
about to get caught. Greg Bates is with US national
freelance sports journalist. Is our guest? Is the business of
forged and fake memorabilia a topic even before this story?
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Oh yeah, it's been around for a long time. There
was operations Bullpen about twenty five thirty years ago, and
all kind of started with Tony Gwen who was with
the Padres. I guess he had gone into the pro
shops at the stadium one time and looked at a
ball this was like mid nineties or mid to late
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nineties and looked at a ball and said, well, I
didn't sign this ball. So then this started a whole
you know, FBI looking into all this, and there was
huge busts that have happened. There was actually a big
forgery ring that was taken down earlier this year. I
had looked into it five years ago, wrote a story
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on it, talked to a bunch of sources and stuff,
and they knew about this guy and they finally tracked
him down and busted this Wendell Rogers in McKinney, Texas.
So that's in the works right now. So stuff is
popping up. I just talked to a of a collector
(14:03):
last week who kind of just stumbled upon some fake
autographs and stuff online. He was buying some basketball cards
and stuff was a lot cheaper than it should be
and all that. So I talked to him. I'm actually
going to have a different story on that. I mean,
it's prevalent obviously, where big money is, people are going
to try to sneak in there and fake stuff and
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make money illegally.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, it is big business for some for sure, big money.
How does it affect or how will it affect buyers
and sellers or does this affect them at all?
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Yeah? I think it will. But I think the folks
who want to buy stuff are going to go to
probably reputable dealers and or you know, go to a
signing and actually get signings in person. I mean, obviously,
the only way to actually know your thing was signed
is to actually see it get signed, because some of
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these places will send you, let's say, a photo. I
have a Brett Farm signed helmet, and there was a
photo sent to me. I about this probably fifteen years ago.
And there was a photo of him signing helmets. Well
who knows that was the helmet that he signed, but
it comes off that way. So people, you know, the
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only way to just make sure that doesn't happen is
to go through reputable dealers and everything like that. I've
talked to, you know, some autograph folks sell stuff and
they said, yeah, that's you know, people are still gonna
buy stuff. They just need to do their due diligence
and make sure that it is correct, get it authenticated.
You know, they're just going to have to put in
(15:38):
extra time for sure. I mean, there's probably a bunch
of fakes out there, but there's real stuff out there
as well.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
The company that Brett Lemeux owned, was it called mister
man Cave?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Is that the name?
Speaker 8 (15:49):
Yeah? Man, there were some other ones, but that was
the main one. Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
All right.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So if anybody listening that's a sports memorabilia collector, would
they have dealt directly with mister man Cave, to be
cuteous if they have a fake or forged autograph or
could they have gotten it anywhere?
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Yeah, I would check if you if anybody bought anything
from mister Mancave either like through eBay or other marketplaces
or actually mister Mancave dot com. I think that website
is still up. I know Brettlemue dropped his personal like
Facebook page or whomever dropped it, but like these fake
businesses and whatever are still up there so people can
(16:28):
go on it's mister like mister spelled out Mancave dot com.
And then I think you can, you know, look up
ebaysellers and find mister Mancave as well. I mean it's shocking.
You'll look at some of the stuff. You look at
real examples and in most untraing eyes can't tell a difference.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Wow, this is such a story, what a crazy story.
Sports collectors Digest dot com is where I found this
story written by Greg Bates, our guest, and I know
you're going to be continue that you will continue following
this story and others.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So how can listeners follow your work?
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Yeah, on X is probably the best way. It's at
Greg a Baits b Ates and I'll be having updates
when we get stuff. I should be having a story
coming out later today for sure, and we have the
National Sports Coctors Convention in a week and a half,
which to tie me on this is amazing. There's so
(17:23):
it's going to be the talk of the convention. In
the last two years, they've broken records for over one
hundred thousand people at the five day event, so they're
expecting similar crowds and it'll be interesting to see what
the trickle down will be, if any, at the convention.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Greg, thanks so much for your time today.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Thank you, Terry, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Coming up, Indie Shorts Film Festival begins this week, including
a documentary about one of the last actual video stores
anywhere and it's right here in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And some training wolves right here in Indiana. Did you
know that? Do you know we trained wolves?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Will We'll learn about He's got to do it. There
you go. News is next night, WYBC. Good morning.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
We've got a little heavy rain to our north and
east of downtown Indianapolis. Looks like between Fisher's Noblesville, Atlanta
getting hit with some pretty heavy rain.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
But right here in the downtown area, we're just oh
wait a minute, let me look out my back. Oh,
I can see to the north.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
It's very dark, but a little bit of light rain
here in downtown Indianapolis. Seventy seven degrees and this is
why it's going to be today. I'm Terry Stacy along
with Denny Smith.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Good morning, Kylon Tally.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
The rain's coming, especially later on this week. But something
else that's coming this week is the Indy Shorts Film
Festival starting this week July twenty second through twenty seventh,
And we love spotlighting some of the Indiana and local
filmmakers and all the stories that they bring to the festival,
so we're going to feature some today. Our first feature
is part of the Indiana Spotlight three program that's happening
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Saturday this Saturday, July twenty sixth at four point thirty
at the Tobias Theater at Newfields and it's called Hometown Video.
It's about one of the last video rental stores in America,
located right here in Brookville, Indiana. And we have a
director and editor of the film, Alex Rogers, to talk
about it. Alex, thanks for spending some time on a Sunday.
Speaker 9 (19:12):
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 10 (19:13):
Guys, appreciate it this film.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
How did you decide? I mean, how did this happen?
I guess how was this documentary born?
Speaker 9 (19:22):
So? I think I was just on Facebook and I
saw like a news feature on Hometown Video, and I
collect DVDs and VHS stapes myself, so I didn't realize
we still had a video rental store here in the state.
So I had to make a trip down there, and
I bought some stuff from Allen and just kind of
talked to him and asked if he'd be interested in
(19:45):
doing a short documentary sometime, and then I sent him
some of my work and then we set up a
data just go crash his space and talk to him
and some of the people that frequent the store.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
It's amazing how technology chases us down kids that don't
know how to use a rotary phone. And I would
say the same about a VHS or a video disc
that we all grew up with. But Terry and I
were laughing because I remember taking a VHS back and
if I hadn't rewound it, they'll ding you for it.
But it was such a culture within that store. I'm
(20:16):
looking forward to seeing this man.
Speaker 9 (20:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's amazing that's still around. So I
kind of wanted to spread the word and show it
some love and hopefully hopefully we can get some more
people to go see al In at Hometown Video.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
You've gotten some love with your films in the past.
You won the Indiana Spotlight Narrative Award from the Heartland
Film Festival this last fall, and so going into this
one that's a documentary, what was your approach and how
is it a little bit different to make it still
an interesting story beyond just the bare bones of it.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Yeah, the feature that we did last year, last years
the summer, that was just a completely different process. You know,
we shot that over the course of a month. There
is a lot of pre production planning there. There was
a little less of that going in. It was just
me and Matt Spear and Curtis Towersock and my film buddies.
We just went there for a day and I had
(21:10):
some questions prepared, but we just kind of let the
day unfold and just tried to be, you know, present
and then represent what we captured as best we could.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It's a very family oriented business, this family that has
come together to keep this operation open. And I'm guessing
you saw the struggle too. It's got to be hard
for him to stay alive, that kind of the hometown
video to stay alive?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Is that right?
Speaker 9 (21:36):
I didn't get the specifics on it, but yeah, I
don't know how hard it would be to keep this up,
but he's still plugging along. And the prices are still
like what you'd see in the early two thousands or
the nineties. You know, you can rent like three movies
for or you know, a movie for three days for
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ninety nine cents. So, oh my gosh, it's really keeping
the video store culture.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
It's really the well, it's really the only competition left
for Netflix. Netflix reported earnings this week and they were up.
And I keep asking myself, how many people you know,
are still trying to get onto Netflix? How man, how
much bigger can that market be? But here's this one
guy slugging it out in Brookville for three days. That's
(22:24):
that's the competition for Netflix right there.
Speaker 9 (22:26):
Yeah, that price is hard to beat. And you know
he's always he's getting new titles and he programs the
store in a really interesting way like he's yeah, he's
putting in the work.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Wow. Well, it's it's quite a challenge. I hope he
makes it. And you know what, this is just a
family adventure right here. But he's up against goliath, that's
for sure.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Yeahl Alex Rogers a director and editor of Hometown Video
and thank you for spotlighting this Brookville, Indiana video rental store.
And I love it being in our backyard that we
can go and visit it ourselves, share just with our
last minute here. What was your favorite moment behind the
scenes of filming this this documentary.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
We met Alan's sister as we were packing up, and
I wish we had gotten her on camera, but she
kind of told us about the history at the store
a little bit more and like Alan's journey with that,
and I just thought that that was really endearing. It
is like Allan and his family just making it run.
(23:34):
You know, he's there pretty much seven days a week.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You know, I also understand this. Do they also do
they repair? And they do?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
They do?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
They could do more than just read videos, right, I
think nowadays they are.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
Yeah, I think he does. I think he can prepare
some machines and he can digitize your tapes and stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, so he's growing terry.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You can bring your CDs to him.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Well, I could bring my CDs to him. Brookville is
a great little part of our state. It's a beautiful place.
So don't let fishing out in Brookville.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Go watch the film Indiana Spotlight three category. It's Saturday
four thirty. That's a Tobias Theater at Newfield. You can
ask Alex some questions yourself. He will be there participating
in the film. They'll have a little Q and a
session afterwards, or you can watch it online at Indy
shworts dot org for all the information and to buy
your tickets. Alex, thank you again for taking time on
(24:25):
the center. I'll us share about this.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Here's a funny thing my whole life. I wanted to
interview mister Rogers. We just do it.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Off the bucket list here if we go. Nice to
meet you Alex again.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Indie shorts dot org.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
The film festival is running again July twenty second through
twenty seventh. And another one. Terry will be talking with
one of the chefs that is a film subject in
Indiana Spotlight one category. We'll talk to her next weekend,
so be sure to stay in touch with with that one.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, and then coming up, I mean there's another and
the Kyla and I both talked about that we thought
was very interesting and it's about training wolves.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yes, it's part of the Indiana Spotlight two block. We're
going to celebrate all of the filmmakers around. It's called
Calling the Wild. Yes, it follows a wolf trainer at
Wolf Park in Battleground, Indiana, and we have the wolf
trainer to talk about it, Ryan Talbot, behavioral En Richmond,
and training manager with Wolf Park here to talk. Thank
you also, Ryan first beending some time on a Sunday.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
Thank you for having me. Great to be here.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Let's start off with your background, because I don't know
about you. I wish training wolves. How did you get
into this?
Speaker 10 (25:36):
Yeah, so it's kind of interesting. I took a kind
of weird journey to get here. So I did sort
of start to fall in love with wolves when I
was probably a teenager, but didn't really know what they were.
I like the idea of wolves, I think. And then
so I actually went to undergrad for computer engineering and
that's actually Brendan Butter. I'm a software engineer. I right
did a collection software for a research institution back in Virginia.
(26:00):
But early early on in that kind of career, I
got more interested in wolves and wolf dogs, and I thought, man,
you know, gee, if I had if I had a
wolf dog, that would be that would be like a
really sturdy companion animal. For you know, my first dog. Maybe.
So I started doing my homework and you know, search
around the internet trying to find out what I could
about you wolf, dogs and wolves. And yeah, that was
(26:21):
not a not something I was gonna need as a pet,
not something I wanted to get as I learned more
about it. But in the in the process of that,
I found Wolf Park's website really kind of vibed well
with with their ethics and how they were working with
the animals and how they saw them, and I thought, geez,
that's a that's a place that I want to visit,
you know, kind of interact with more sponsored some of
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their animals, and they offered behavior and training seminars at
the time, so folks, anybody from any walk of life
could come and learn more about wolves, potentially get hands
on with them. The wolves here Park are very very
well socialized, meaning they're very comfortable around humans, which is
important for making sure that they have a wonderful quality
of life while they're living with us. I did that
back in two thousand and six, and boy, I was
(27:03):
immediately booked kind of caught the behavior bugs through everything
I thought I knew about dogs kind of out the window.
And the kind of went from there to consumed everything
I could from wolf Park and other sources of information,
going to conferences, going to workshops, trying to learn anything
everything I could about animal training, animal behavior, and that
kind of got me to today in a very roundabout, you know,
sort of trajectory, but something I've been very passionate about
(27:25):
since then.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
You had said earlier that you threw everything you knew
out the door about them, and what was something surprising
that you learned about them that would be good for
people to know.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Yeah. So one of the big things I think, and
there's still something that floats around kind of in the
sort of popular opinions of dog behavior, is that like
there was no there was no like needing to behave
as a quote unquote alpha. You didn't have to come
in and try to dominate them like physically or psychologically
(27:55):
or anything like that in order to be safe. I've
got quite the opposite. Really, All of the all the
training interactions were very much relationship based. But that relationship
is very healthy, and that was a conversation with partners
rather than you know, trying to you know, give commands
and compel them to do your bidding and things like that,
(28:16):
and it was interesting because like you would think, oh, well,
of course, like you know, with a wild animally you
have to be like that. But the real big takeaway
for me was, oh no, actually, probably with any living
organism you should probably be like that.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
You know.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
With my it changed how I worked with my own
dogs at home. It changed how like you can't un
see it once you see it, So it really changed
how I I view pretty much every other organism on
the planet at this point is you know, all right,
they've actually got their own wants, i wants, desires and
needs in their head, and it's kind of our job
to figure out some way to communicate with them, to
see if we can come to some sort of mutual uh,
(28:51):
you know, beneficial contracts for both of us to you know,
have a have a good day. Essentially.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
You can see the behind the scenes of what Ryan
does wolf Park in Battleground, Indiana during his Indiana Shorts
of film calling the Wild, part of the Indiana Spotlight
two block. It will be streaming virtually at indi Shorts
dot org, or you can watch it in person Saturday,
July twenty sixth at two fifteen pm at the New
Fields Tobias Theater. I'm personally excited to see how you
(29:19):
work with the wolves and see the behind the scenes.
But people can also do that in person by going
to wolf Park, right.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
They absolutely can.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (29:27):
We are open every day but Wednesday from three to
eight pm, and then on Saturdays we are open from
nine point thirty am until eight pm, including our how
Light program on Saturday, which is usually pretty fun.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
They've got summer camps, they've got tours. You can plan
your visit through their website. You can even volunteer. Plenty
of ways to get active and involved. Ryan, thank you
so much for taking the time today and telling us
a little bit about what you do. But again, if
you want to watch it, go watch the movie Calling
the Wild Ryan, thank you so much.
Speaker 10 (29:57):
Thank you so much. Yes, it's been fun.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Yeah, come to see you.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
If you want to go see them, visit Wolfpark dot org.
And then if you want to get some tickets to
go watch all of these Indiana Spotlight films and more
indi shorts dot org for tickets and all of the
information on that.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
That's our little actress, that's our little one doing the
movie stuff, movie news.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
You know what can I mention, please, I have a
play coming up, and if you're in Franklin, just because
it's right down the road, I do have a part
in our town that's playing with our Town Play, Franklin Players,
and it's this next weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday. So
i'd say, I mean, if you want to come, come
watch a fun production. That's a pretty good one.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
It's a little depressing, but.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
In life, it's our town. I mean, it's not your fault, it.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Just it just is.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
You're not talking about your performance. You're talking about this
great story.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
It's as old show, I feel like, as old as time. Anyway, Kyland.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
The best place to get tickets is Facebook.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It is free.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
I should mention that it's free. Donations accepted, but you
still have to reserve it ticket. So go to their
Facebook page, Our Town Players, Franklin if you want to
come by and see a performance.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Gotcha, Thank you, Thank you, little one. She's terrific.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Flood watches in place for all of central Indiana beginning
this afternoon lasting until Monday evening. We've got multiple rounds
of showers and storms producing some pretty heavy.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Rainfall in our state. Right now, downtown Indianapolis. It's on
and off.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
But to our north around in Hamilton County and beyond
the north of that, some pretty heavy stuff coming down,
So be careful watch what you're doing. We've got Denny
coming up.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I hope you like it.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
It's a little depressing, but it's a warring.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
It's eleven forty eight Denny with depressing news coming up
after the break.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Ninety three WIBC. For those of you watching on YouTube,
what does my shirt mean? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
It says July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
You've got a friend in Denny.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
What happened back then?
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You've got a friend in Denny.
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That was a long time ago in a galaxy?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Your birthday?
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No, it's today, well nineteen sixty.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Nineteen sixty Jenny said, Oh, you've got it fifty six
years ago.
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Denny.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Oh yeah, you got a friend? All right?
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Give it to us.
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All right.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
A minute.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You probably saw all the hubbub about the Genius Act.
No you didn't see it.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
I was.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I did signing thing and Trump made a very funny comment,
and of course people are taking the test. They said
the Act was named after him, which I thought was
a cute way to break the tension. But the Genius
Act is guiding and establishing national innovation for US, and
it's done through stable coins. Now, Terry, do you know
what a stable coin?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Okay, do you know what you've heard of cryptocurrency? Yes, okay,
you've heard of bitcoin? Yea, all right, So a stable coin,
somebody issues a whole lot of stable coin, but it's
backed by some asset, whether you would usually be gold and.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Silver or in fact by some asset.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah. Well, as opposed to crypto currency, which we nobody
has ever figured out what it's backed by. There's just
so many crypto There's just so many bitcoins, and supposedly
they're rare and they're used as a medium of exchange. Well,
the Genius Act was passed by the US House Representatives
and it went to the President's desk, and everybody is saying,
this sounds so futuristic and so cool. Actually it goes
(33:20):
back to eighteen sixty three, and in eighteen sixty three
that's how they financed the Civil War in the North.
That was kind of crazy. Well, they had this, it
was kind of funky. They used bonds, but at the
time they were very similar to what we are using
these stable coins for. So everybody's trying to figure out, Okay,
(33:40):
what are we trying to do. I think we're trying
to convert out our currency from the Federal Reserve notes
to something else. I think that's the intent. The problem
with it is that this is how wars are also financed.
They figure out a way to make people pay through
taxes or through some scheme to pay for things that
(34:01):
nobody else could. You wouldn't accept it if you're going
to be taxed for it, if it went through government
to start a new bill. So people are getting a
little bit concerned about what they're seeing. Imagine a world.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Is that what they're thinking about, that this is maybe
preparing for some kind of to fund a war.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I think it's a foregone conclusion that something bad is
going to happen in Europe. Trump is recognized that, and
he saw he's selling weapons to Europe, but he's not
going to participate. He'll sell the weapons to him, but
he's not sending American soldiers over there. And this whole
ultimatum between Ukraine and Putin. Putin's a thug and you're
not going to push him around. And you can give
(34:37):
him fifty days and or you're going to impose all
of these tariffs on him. You know, I don't think
that's going to end very very well. But the whole
idea is is that with a genius Act. It sounds
like it's very tech savvy, but it raises serious questions.
We are trying to back our currency, the US dollar,
with a cryptocurrency that's backed by something else. Hope to
(34:58):
goodness that they back it withvicious metals. You know, the
Constitution UH said that we that our currency was supposed
to be gold and silver, and so the we've sort
of gotten away from that. And I think that Trump's
got a real issue with the Federal Reserve and this
might be his way to do an end around on
the federal reserve. So keep your eyes and ears open.
It sounds tech savvy, but quietly you got to remember
(35:21):
that when we have things like this, if we get
government too involved, just ask the gun dealers and the
bullion dealers. They get debanked. You know, people won't let
them have checking accounts at their bank because they're a
gun store, because they sell bullion. With a Genius Act,
that could be very much possible that they just debank you,
and so I'm very skeptical of it, a little bit
(35:43):
concerned you have.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
To end up.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Excuse me, I have a question. I know we have
to go. Just in about a minute, you said bouillon.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Bullion gold and silver medals.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Oh, I thought you meant the little cubes.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
You are so precious, no commodities bullion, old bullion Sylvia.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Wait, what is that brought like? That's the little right,
it's their little cubes.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
And the ladies you have got to get off your
social media and start reading finance.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, I know we're pretty present. I will say those
are those are worth a little bit.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, okay, so the bullion, we got that clear. That
is not soup.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
No, it's not Listen, this is slick. It's modern that
pay attention. There's the devil's in the details, and we
don't know what those details.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I don't like all the uncertainty.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
It makes me very nervous. Makes great, We've got another hour,
makes you ladies? All right, We've got another hour to
go with lots of good stuff. I promise you we
will do that after today's top stories. Thanks for joining
us here on the first day ninety three, w IBC
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