First Day with Terri Stacy – August 10, 2025 - Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I wish you all could see Terry Lynn Stacy thirty
five years in radio and this is like a kabookie
dance before we start. Come on, man, we're on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I was all tied up in my stuff.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
You can see her if you want, join us on
YouTube ninety three widc.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I forgot yeah. For those of you might have seen that.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Hey, hi everybody, I'm Terry Stacy Lowick, Denny Smith.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Good morning, and don't forget our darling daughter, Kylin May.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
She is our darling daughter.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
One more week left of the State Fair. I know
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is the middle weekend.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I it to everybody who came out and saw us
while we were broadcasting last week. It was so fun
to see you guys.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
It was and had a great time, and that great
time continues. Boy, it's hot out there. Be safe, Be safe,
and it doesn't look like there's any end in sight
when it comes to these ninety degrees and high humidity.
So take care of yourself, take care of your animals,
and have a great time out the fair. I want
to just mention we've got a great guest coming up
here in a second.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
But I want to.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Wish Jeane Uons she's celebrating her ninety eighth birthday today. Well,
happy happy birthday, Jean, and happy birthday to Smokey Bear
her tunes eighty one.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
She's older than Smoky Bear.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
She's older than Smoky Bear, and she's I mean, she's
having a great life. She was seen it yesterday at
the weight watchers meeting. So's she's having a great life
and happy birthday. It is give Back Sunday at the
Colts training camp later this afternoon four to five, thirty
five dollars tickets at Colts dot com. Not too many
days left. Today Monday and their joint practice three to

(01:32):
five with the Pacers, The Packers Way to Go.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
The Colts are now playing the NBA. You are tied up?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Are you sober? Over there?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
We better be catching passes if that's the case.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
It is Little Red Door Cancers Cancer Survivor's Day at
the Great Indiana State Fair Wilson's Corn Eating Contest.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's at four today.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Chris Tomlin is on the free stage Percherons and Clydesdale's and.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
His favorite, Oh the big Ones.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
They're amazing, gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I have gle that raised Perturns and they are just loving.
I mean, if you think.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Right, you're right.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
They are just massive in size and hope everybody stays
keeps them cool out there today there are lots of competitions,
Derry Cow's Goats, Pioneer Village, so many things happening and
moments that are really special. And today the featured Farmer,
presented by Cortiva Agra Science, is Brian Rexing. He's the
owner of New Generation Dairy and Gibson County and guess what, guys,

(02:33):
he's here with us. He joins us live from the
Indiana State Fair.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Brian, how are you hey?

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Doing well yourself?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
We're doing great.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Congratulations on being selected today's featured farmer.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Have you got the whole family with you?

Speaker 5 (02:47):
They are all here. I am here by myself, but yeah,
they are all here. We just got done eating ice
cream and grilled cheese and we're off to a really
good start.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
A lot of people don't know where Owensville is. I
happen to drive hast it as I would go down
to see my relatives in southern Indiana. Tell us where
Owensville is.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
So Owensville is on the west side of Gibson County
nearing Posey County. It's what we call God's Country. But
it's not too far from the Walbash River. And you know,
we're one of the one of the southernmost counties in Indiana.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
You're right down there, Yeah, coast of Kentucky, Ohio. You're
down around that way to our south here about an
hour ago, almost couple hours away from here from us
here in Indianapolis. So your your farm is called new
generation farm, but you're really are you generation farmer?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Wise? What are you? Is that the right way to
ask that question?

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Number three? Four five?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yeah, Well, I'm a fourth generation dairy.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Farmer, a new generation farm. You named it new generation? Why?

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Well, in two thousand and eight, I built my own dairy.
After growing up with a dairy all my life and
having an opportunity to build my own dairy and carry
on that legacy, I took that opportunity and build our
own dairy and O eight with my family, and uh,
we just we saw an opportunity and we were we

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were going to be another generation that maybe did it
different from the other generations by milking a few more cows,
but we still all take care of the cows just
the same way we always did. But uh, we just
saw it as an opportunity for the for our generation
and maybe another generation.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
And about that new generation, the next one coming up.
Talk about how the kids help you out on the
farm too.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, the kids are very involved on our farm. They
uh you know, partaking some of the chores. And uh,
I have two at Purdue. We'll have to at Purdue
this year studying uh one in AGG business, one in
AGG marketing. And my younger son is uh he's in
the sixth grade studying basketball. But we uh, you know,

(04:58):
we we we we just want to Farming gives a
great opportunity for children to learn work ethic and how
to take care of animals. And you know how rewarding
it is when you take care of that animals and
how they can produce for you, and it's just it's
just a great way of life. You know.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Purity Dairy puts up their featured farmers, and of course
we looked at you. We saw the new generation dairy.
Here's a picture of you with one of your farm
hands there as the ladies are are eating behind you. Brian,
I got to tell you, you look like a badass. I'm much.
I'm telling you, this guy's got a look on his
face like I'm managing this. Let's get this done. So

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I imagine the kids do have a work ethic.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Well, yeah, it's you know, I guess when I'm in
that environment, that's my happy place. You know, we make
dairy farming is our way of life, and it's you know,
I can really say that, I really don't go to work.
I just get to go do what I love to do.
And it turns out we can make a living doing it.
So it's just a way of life that we really enjoy.

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And sometimes maybe I should more passionate than others. Sometimes
says go better than others. We do, and we have
a great staff, and I don't. I don't. I want.
I invited my staff to the fair today because they
are what makes us go. It's not just me or
my family, it's the people that work for us. Really,
how many audiences?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
How many people does it take to run a twelve
hundred dairy cow operation? How many people?

Speaker 5 (06:22):
We have? Roughly about twenty people.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Wow, oh see, I thought I thought you were going
to say fifty people. It's the twenty seems like a
small number, but hearing you talk, Brian, you know, one
of my questions was going to be wasn't an easy
decision to continue? Because we continue, we hear often now
that you know that next generation of young farmers, or
it could be young farmers that grow up on a farm,

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they go a different direction, not necessarily running the farm,
but then maybe still going into agrasciences or other directions,
but not really running the farm.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
But for you, that was an easy decision. You wanted
to continue this on right?

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Well, yeah, I say it was an easy decision, can
I can you know, we can argue that back and forth.
There was a lot of decisions have to be made.
I was going to be a farmer and I was
going to figure out a way to do it. The
decisions I had to make to get it, you know,
to be a dairy farmer or hard. But knowing that
I wanted to be a dairy farmer, that was an
easy decision. But figuring out how I could do it,

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how I could align myself in the industry and you know,
bring family in at some point it is a little
harder decision. But knowing I wanted to be a farmer,
easy decision. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
As a business what's the break even? How big does
their herd have to be? You've got twelve hundred cows,
how big does the herd have to be before you
really can relax a little bit and know that your
profit or your cash flow is going to be there.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
You know, it's really not based off how many cows
your milk and I you know, it's really about how
well you do it, how good of a dairy farmer
you are, how much you manage your cows, how it's
you are. There's some small farmers out there that still
make a live in doing it, and there's large farms
that make a live in doing it. So really it's
it's not about how many cowns your milk. It's really

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about how well you milk your cows and how you
take care of them. So, you know, farming, it's got
all different sizes and scopes, but you know you can
figure out a way to do it of any size
and scale. It's just you're going to do a little
different than your neighbor.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Mind, Kylan, you obviously spend a lot of time on
the farm and with all of the different cows, and
this might be like asking who your favorite child is,
But do you.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Have a favorite cow.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
All my cows are my favorite.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
You know, so many farmers farms have turned to agritourism
and can continue that education.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Is that something that you've been doing as well.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
My wife is a school teacher, and so when we
built the dairy, we put an observation room to overlook
the milking paller and took advantage of a lot of
opportunities to bring school children in. And she did a
lot of tours, and uh, my daughters have done a few.
And then when COVID hit, and I don't want to
use it as an excuse, we haven't since that hit.

(09:13):
You know, that all come to a halt and we
haven't picked it back up as much as we'd like to.
My daughter did a few tours this summer of some
summer camps and different opportunities. And we always love bringing
people to the farm because we're truly proud of what
we do and we want to tell our story. So
we need to be better advocates of what we do,
and we need it. But it's hard to get all

(09:34):
of our chores done and fit all that in. But
we we do give some tours once in a while,
and I always I always just love it. Love. Some
of the questions you get sometimes it's, uh, you know,
it's it's pretty neat, like.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Who's your favorite cow? Exactly?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, Yeah, I have a question. What is a freestyle barn?
I noticed that you you really do try to take
care of your herd, But I've I had heard of
soft sand bedding, and even at the state fair we
see the big fans that use. But what is a
freestall barn.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
So freestell barn is that all the cows have have
one have a place to lay. So some you know,
a section of a barn may have two hundred stalls,
so that we'll typically stock that with about one hundred
and ninety to one hundred and ninety five cows and all.
What it means is each cow has an opportunity to
lay in the dry sand to keep them clean, the
sands clean, and its it segregates them from the next cow,

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so they're not laying on top of each other and
it just keeps you know, it's kind of like kids
in school. You know, you put them in rows, or
you put them in lines, or you line desk up.
It's you know, it's how we keep our cows aligned.
Just to so they have a place to lay, air
can get around them, and they can rest and you know,
and the freestell barn will also has cows never more
than about one hundred and twenty five feet from a

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water troughs and they're never more in about one hundred
feet from an opportunity to eat.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh wow, well.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
That's better than most office.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
That doesn't sound like a bad life and all this
is uh Our featured farmer, Our state Fair Feature Farmer Today,
presented by Cortiva Agras Science is Brian Rexing. He's the
owner of New Generation, New Generation Dairy in Gibson County.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Excuse me, he's with us.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
He's live at the State Fair today where he's being celebrated,
he and his family. You've you said, you know, you
grew up on a dairy farm in Milking is I mean,
it's pretty amazing, isn't it. All of the science and
technology from today from where where we were when you
were probably a kid, right Well, I mean we've talked
to farmers that have waterbeds for their for their caws.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
I mean, it's just amazing, right, It.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Truly is, and probably one of the one of the
technologies that we've embraced here recently. Is our cows wear
collars and the collar is like your garment, like your
watch that keeps track of your steps. Oh yeah, coller
has a has a uh has a chip in it
and it keeps track of that cows how much she eats,
how much she walks. And we know if this cow

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is less mobility or she's not eating as much, it'll
help us detect something maybe something going wrong. So having
having technologies that can keep our cows healthier and more
comfortable is something that's just really really neat because you know,
there's nothing more concerning to a farmer. If a cow

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is not feeling well and we can't detect the sooner
we can detect it, the sooner we can get her better.
Just like your child, you know, you want to be
able to you want to be able to ward off
that code or catch that fever early. And just like cows,
you know we want to we want to try to
take care of them the best we can. So this
is a technology we really really are excited about.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Wow, thank you so much about here in time. Now
I got to ask you. My granddaughter is a horse,
a horse lady, and she wants me to get a
horse for the farm. I got a little bar, I
got a forty by eighty barn. She wants me to
put a horse in there, but I don't want to
be up at four o'clock in the morning. Muck and stalls?
How do you muck stalls for twelve hundred cows? Is

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there a mechanization for that?

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Well, so you mentioned earlier our cows lay in sand.
So our cows laying and what the stall is designed for.
It allows that the manure from the cow falls into
an alley, and an alley is scraped three times a
day so by machinery. So the stall also allows a
cow to lay in a dry, comfortable place and it

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keeps the manure from contaminating any part of her body.
So our cows are amazingly clean. And then and then
what's really cool is we recycle our sand. Wow, So
we we take our stand after we use it, we're
able to filtrate it, back it up, dry it, and
reuse it. And it's pretty cool that we have the

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opportunity to do that. And you know, it works really well.
And sand is just cows me. They're laying at the beach,
they're laying at the beach.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
That's such a great picture for me and my brains
on your cause, laying on the beach close to food
and water got a collar on.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
We're with Brian Rexsing, owner of New Generation Dairy Farm,
and he is the Indiana State Fair featured farmer for
today and my favorite thing about the State Fair is
getting to see all the kids in the creativity flowing
through their heads as they see all the different animals.
Some of them project exactly. Brian, what is some of
your advice. We talked about discipline and what you get

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from working on the farm, but what is your advice
for someone who wants to go into dairy farming or
anything like that, or maybe even an internship or working
with the farm like yours.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Well, I think you hit a really good point there
in internships. We've had a few interns through our dairy
and you know, there's there's a lot of farms out
there looking for people that want to want to help
and find find a farm in your area. Contact your
local extension office, find out farms in your area, let

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them points in the right direction of somebody that you
know may be looking for someone you can get hold
of a feed company or somebody in your area and
let them help you point. But trust me, if there's
not too many people that come to well, if anybody
would come to me and want to work on a
farm and show me their willingness, and I'm going to
give them a chance, you know, because but it's not

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for the faint of heart. It's definitely not for the
faint of heart. But it is a truly rewarding industry
and way of life.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Well, God bless our farmers, all of them.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
And I know we just have maybe six or seven
hundred dairy farms here in our great state, and you're
one of them. And it sounds like you've got happy cows,
and happy cows make great milk and cottage cheese and
butter and ice cream and all the good stuff. And
I'm glad you're there because you're also an educator too, Brian.
And I know people will see you out there today
any particular place. You're just going to be roaming around.

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I know you'll be in the parade at the end
of the evening, but anything else.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
We're getting ready to go to Pioneer Village for lunch,
and that's been a big argument I'm a family six
and four of us get a geat lunch there, so
that's been a battle. But no, I'm kidding. Actually, my daughters,
my father is gonna is eighty four, he's going to
be here, and I was proud of one of my girls.
They said, you know, if Grandpa comes, he should do

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that because he would really enjoy that more than we will.
So I was like, you know, that was pretty cool.
So so yeah, that's next to our listen, and then
we'll end our day with a parade. And it's just
a great celebration of agriculture and a great celebration of Indiana.
So the State Fair is it means a lot to me,
and it shouldn't mean a lot to all hues.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yours means a lot to us that you would share
some of your time today for sure. Brian Rexing, owner
of New Generation Dary in Gibson County. He's today's featured
farmer at the Great Indiana State Fair.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Thank you so much, Bless your heart. We appreciate you.
Thank you so much, Brian. Have a great day.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
We will, and thank you for the opportunity to talk
with you today.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
You bet take care.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
It is eleven twenty three and this is the first
day on ninety three WIBC Terry Stacey, Denny Smith, Kyland
Tally Boy was Brian Rexing, a great guest now.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Fourth generation, and I bet one of the kids picks
it up one way or another.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
I think they will too, That's my hope.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well, I wish i'd ask him who designed the farm?
You know, all that mechanization that they have. Did they
invent all that themselves?

Speaker 5 (17:16):
You know?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
That would have been a great question. I don't know,
but I know that he built his own rather than
just taking up the family farm. Being a fourth generation,
he went and said, I'm going to build my own farm.
So anyway, I just thought he was such a great guest,
such a great representative for our dairy farmers and our Indiana.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Who's your farmers too? For sure?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Uncle Russell had milk cows down in Perry County, which
is Tel City, and he said, come hell or high
water at four thirty in the morning, somebody's milk and cows.
But twelve hundred or thirteen hundred, you think about that, op,
it's a seven day a week.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
They kind of they kind of they kind of milk
themselves these days.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
If you're on a Bicker farm, they actually know when
it's time to go and walk up to the machines.
They get in their spot and it's like a carousel
and the mechanics of their arms come down, put themselves
onto the udders and milk.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
When it's over, they all march off. It really is
not a.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Machine, Kylin. If you ever milked a cow, Nope, me neither.
And I've been around a lot of farms, but i
never got a chance to milk a cow. You saw
my ribbons, right, I mean, I know you're bragging. I
was talking to I was talking to Kyle in here.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Terry, we have enough of you.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's okay. Sorry, I was so proud of myself.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
I did take a field trip to a farm one
time and we did like fake milking.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
But it's nothing like.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I'm sorry, it's nothing like the real thing.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
What was fake milking? Did you milk someone's hand or what?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
No, they had like just little bottles that you would,
oh really just practice on.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh that's kind of fun. That is kind of fun.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Ell.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Then you have something you'd like to play for, Well,
if you're at the state fair, I think there's a
lot of different things that you need to be doing,
but the Indiana State Fair Queen has some tips for
you while you're headed out to the State Fair.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
Hydrate and bring your son's screen because it is toasty
out here. We definitely have a lot of buildings that
have ac We do have sunscreen blah booths set up too,
and the Indiana State Troopers they also have water. So
definitely hydrate, bring your son's screen, and just enjoy the
fair because it is the best time of the year
and it's a time where we can all celebrate our

(19:32):
state together.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
The Indiana State Fair Queen pill oar Bravo on which
TV this morning, beautiful time. You'll see her out at
the fair and again Brian Rexing the featured farmer of
the day.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Coming up Denny's Dollars.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
And since we're gonna check in with the first day's
favorite middle Child, the founder of the International Middle Child Union,
Bruce Hopman and former Indianapolis mayor Greg Ballard will join
us at twelve oh five. It's the first day. Today's
top stories are next ninety three WWBC. We had yesterday
Indy's first Pizza Festival on the Circle and to everybody that.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean, I don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
It was a mess, but it.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Sounded like it did not go well.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
A lot of people staying and standing in long lines,
and I don't know, but it was the first one
here on Monument Circle and it's had such I mean,
had thirty different pizza places, and it just sounded like
it was going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
So bloody hot. It was a really confined space. Now
people were just on top of each other, worse than
the State Fair on a busy day. It's so they're.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Obviously going to be learning from it for their next time.
Say will will you give them another chance?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I hope you will.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
I hope.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
So we give other people, We give people chances that
we shouldn't be giving chances too.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
So if we can, I think we can have a
little bit of.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
I'm sorry, but I'm just saying, let's all just relax
a little bit and they'll learn from this, because it's
the concept is fantastic. We waited a long time for it.
It's eleven thirty seven. I'm Terry Denny Smith is here,
Kylin Talley. Tomorrow is National Middle Child Day. I think
I really didn't care about it much until I met
Bruce Hopman, who is struggling years to get them. Not really,

(21:04):
but did you hear that?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
He's really done an amazing job.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
He's obviously not a middle child.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
No I'm not, but I know that they oftentimes, as
you and Kylan, Denny, you and Kyland often do you
feel left out? And Bruce has been trying to make changes,
and I believe I would like did you call him
for me?

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Did you give him a call? O?

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Good?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Bruce, Bruce Hoptman, and let's introduct him joining us now
is our favorite middle child, the founder of the International
Middle Child Union smack dab blog dot com. To become
a member, Ladies and gentlemen, it is Bruce Hopman.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
Sit down, No, please sit down. Hey. First of all,
let's get this dright, Denny. Yet, clearly she's not A
day is not tomorrow, it is Tuesday, August. I don't
know what well she didn't miss it this year.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
She's a slow learner, Bruce. Sorry, you you know what
we should get?

Speaker 7 (22:01):
I should send Terry the new T shirts we have
this year. One of them is the calendar day that says,
you know, August twelfth, middle Child's Day. A date that
will live in anonymity.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
This is what.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
It's such a I'm glad we started here because this
is this is what I'm up against. Every year. It
doesn't it doesn't matter how many times you talk about it.
People will never remember August twelfth.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
August twelfth, August twelfth, August twelfth.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
The babies in the family don't get it. The oldest
in the family don't get it. We in the middle
have over always felt overshadowed. We're expected so much. They
think we're rebellious. No, we just want you to remember
our names.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
We just were looking for our fair share. That's all.
That's all. And look, and here's something that I wrote
about recently at the blog smackblog dot com. You know,
so the firstborn is a firstborn. There's no question you're
the firstborn. The last born is the last born, no
question the baby the last born. Everybody knows your place
in the family. It's the ones in the middle. It's

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always very confusing their middle children who don't know their
middle children. They figure you got to be, you know,
the second of three, or the third of seven, or
of five. Anybody who's not a firstborn or last born
is in the middle Yet we all get lumped in
with the same name. You're a middle child, but you
have no idea. Was he the second born? Was he
the last born? See the middle I wrote about this

(23:23):
at the Black I think it's time for a new
birth order hierarchy.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yes, you sent out a press release on this International
middle Child Union calls for birth order hierarchy shake up. Yeah,
this is a press release you sent out, and I
believe you use the word boulder dash.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
Yet, bald, that's what I well, I'm trying to be polite.
You know, when people say they're not a middle child,
I say, boulder dash. You're not the firstborn, you're not
the last born. You're middle child. But I think I've
devised everybody knows the second of three that you're a
middle child. You're the only middle child. You're a mono
middle child. You're smack dad middle child. But what if
you're the second born. Well, here's my so if you're

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second out of out of five, right, so the third
is the middle the second one. This is the new
categorization I've come up with. You are at early middle child,
once removed, you were born, you were born one slot
before the actual middle right if you were born one

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by after you're late, you'll hear taking.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
It away from us actual middle to children.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
They were middle child. The second born are middle children
for just a bit.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Boy, really, just not a permanent child to spend so
much time on this particular topic.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
Nold. We don't even get our own birth order designation.
So that's all I'm saying. We even have to share them.
We're all middle children, but you know, the firstborn, last born,
get there on it's just not there. It's just more thingler.
I was watching the other day. I'm watching some national
news show and they did a ten minute segment on
National Chicken Wing Day. Okay, and I'm thinking to myself,

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first of all, not a big chick. Too much work
for enough, not enough chicken.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
You know.

Speaker 7 (25:04):
They're going on and on about it. Yeah, it was
Terry stage. If it wasn't for you, Terry, we wouldn't
be here. We'd have nothing going on out there, you
know what.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
And I I'm grateful for this because first you want
to tell them about what you've You sent me some
information recently. August tenth, I believe is when I received
this about naming me and giving me.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
A very prestigious job within your organization.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Do tell it well.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
I want to show my appreciation for everything that Terry
has done over the years to help spread the word
in Indianapolis and in the listening area. And I feel
like God knows I can't do this alone. I'm doing
a terrible job. Even she still doesn't know. August twelfth,
Maybe maybe I shouldn't be given her this title. I
don't know, but so I'm reaching out for help. And

(25:52):
today I'd like to name Terry the north Central Midwest
Regional Senior Chief Executive managing director of middle childs they operate.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Who No, she's not even a middle child? What do
you think about that?

Speaker 7 (26:03):
Listen, guys, guys, guys, we need help. You know it's
Terry Stacey. You know what am I gonna do?

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Hold on, I'm kind of heartbroken.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Kyland's crying.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Have I been along with Terry this whole time?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
You could have given that to me though, Terry.

Speaker 7 (26:21):
I'm a middle Probably do what probably Terry will probably
do is make sure you guys are doing all the work.
But she'll she'll grab the title.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
So but don't feel bad.

Speaker 7 (26:30):
You'll still have a part. She just gets the meaningless title.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Look, I know what is the title? Okay, give me
the title again. Her brain is like an unmade bed brother. Okay,
so get give you what this title is again?

Speaker 7 (26:42):
North Central Midwest Regional Senior Chief Executive Managing Director of
Middle Child's Day Operations. And look, guys, don't feel bad.
It's basically a no show job. There's really nothing to
do because nobody remembers it's middle Child's Day title. So
it's like just a meaningless though. And I know a
thing or two about meaningless styles. I'm the head of
the International Middle Child for god's sake.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, he says, I mean he's it's in the there's
a press release. Did he put your name on there?

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Again?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
This up on this guy?

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Every state in our country International middle Child Union names
Terry Stacy, north Central Midwest Regional Senior Chief Executive Managing
Director of Middle Child's Day Operations.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Listen to that.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
She's laughing about it.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
We would have at least said, I'm feeling a little
bit overshadowed. Here, son, I want to make.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
I want to make this up to you. So here
here's the deal. Tomorrow. I'm sorry day on Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
He doesn't want to know.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
It's rough, it's contagious. You hang around her too long,
and then you start forgetting. On Tuesday, all day long,
from eight am to midnight on on X, on Instagram,
and on threads, we are going to be playing Name
that Middle Child. It's every hour on the hour, a

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new question will be hosted across the social media. Every
hour on the half hour, the answers will be posted.
You'll get to think about what better way to celebrate
middle child's. They've than to think about middle children all
day long, So this will be going on all day
on Tuesday. I'm willing to play with you guys, give
you a few questions that didn't make the final cut
for Tuesday, because I don't want to give away the
answers to anybody. You might be listening some kind of

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middle child. Yeah, called name that middle child? You guys,
you guys want if terry, you can't play. It's just
for the middle children right now, go ahead try that.
You want to try a copy here, we'll start with
this one.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
We'll do it.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
There have been contrary to popularly believed, where they're out
there saying that therefore been more firstborn presidents than middle children's,
actually not true. There have been more twenty three middle
child presidents. Oh name name one, Oh name one.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Theodore Roosevelt.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Theodore Roosevelt.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
Let me look, no, you got you got one? Okay one? Also,
the current sitting president is a middle child. Fourth out
of five, Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Fourth out of five?

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Does that count?

Speaker 7 (29:14):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Give them another one in the middle.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
How about not the first or the last? Okay, Jimmy Carter?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
There were just two of them.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, give them another one.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
Okay, let's see, but get off of the Okay, if
you have this, I'll bet you a dollar.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
You didn't know.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
This middle child was the first female ever honored on
the US coin.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Susan. There you go, Susan.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Was a middle kid.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
We can do great things.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
Remember remember middle children, not firstborn not let you could
be the third of five, you could be the fifth
of seven. You're still a middle child.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I want to be middle kids.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Here's one I do.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
I do think this is interesting, Bruce. At all four
presidents carved into Mount Rushmore. Our middle children. They are Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt,
and Lincoln. I didn't know Lincoln the middle child.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
We're underrated.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, maybe a little bit maybe a little bit.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
All right, how do we find you on Instagram? I
don't do Facebook, and I don't do the TikTok on Instagram?

Speaker 7 (30:19):
Every on on Instagram, on threads and on x It's
at Midkid Union mid Hey.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
This musical middle Child turned dancing around in lingerie into
an art.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Form gypsy ghostly iPhone.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
One name she goes by, one name rhymes exactly. How
about that there's somebody who can be proud of.

Speaker 7 (30:42):
This is a fun way to spend middle child there.
It really is every it's all I got. I hope
this all works out. I schedule everything, I hope it
all works out. But this is this is the big thing.
This is the middle Child. And now Terry as head
of whatever your your your ridiculous title is. You have
to you want to make sure that you know your
listeners are playing this game on Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
We'll make sure it happens.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Bruce, Miki Union Mikid.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Wait until then, Bruce, we wish you a happy Middle
Child's Day, Eve Eve, which is going to be Tuesday, so.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
We're great for your time day.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Thank you for the wonderful honor of being a part
of this organization and again. If anyone would like more
information about our favorite middle child, Bruce Hopman, you can
find his content at the blog Smackdab blog dot com. Facebook,
you'll find him there at Midkid Union, and also on
Twitter and Instagram, and he's on threads.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I wasn't even going to say it because I found
that embarrassing.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
They might even find out that they're a middle child.
They might not even realized that they're a middle child. Gosh,
it happened.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Okay, goodbye.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I was pretty tacking for the award. I'm just saying, Bruce,
thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Award.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
Is it really an award or is it more like
a punishment?

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Think about it. We don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
We'll thcome middle Kid.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Hey, see you later, Alligator. Thanks for your time today.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
Thanks guys, to see you later.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
So eleven forty eight, Denny Smith, what do you got
coming up next? My friend? With dollars and cents?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
We're all behind, Well I shouldn't say we're all behind,
but a lot of people are behind in their savings
for the retirements. I got some figures that you sent
over to me Terry Land, and talk about that. It
is really interesting how far behind everybody is in all
fifty states. It's kind of scary.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
We'll talk about that when Denny returns with us here
on the first day on ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Denny, how do you like to know that Indiana is
thirty fifth in something three five thirty fifth out.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Of fifty Ah, what could it possibly be?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Well, Indiana residence. If you're age fifty and over, then
you need to save five hundred and nine dollars a
month just to get up even so that you can
retire at a legitimate age in your middle sixties, getting
close to seventy. You need to save right now. The
statistics are saying that five hundred dollars a month between

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now and the time you're sixty five, and you may
have enough to retire. It's kind of scary how bad
it is the target age of fifty for Indiana to
how much you should have in your four one ks
and your retirement kitty. It's about a half a million dollars.
It's four hundred and ninety four thousand dollars. And I
read that number and I'm thinking, Gosh, when I was fifty,
I didn't have anything near like that. I mean, there

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is at age thirty, you're supposed to have one times
your salary. So kai when you get to thirty, which
is a few years away, you should have one times
your salary and your savings. By the time you get
to thirty five, you should have two times your salary,
and by the time you get to age fifty, you
should have six times your salary in your bucket of
money for retirement. Now, the median age, the median retirement

(33:47):
savings right now for people forty five to fifty, these
are crazy statistics nationally is only one hundred and fifteen
thousand dollars. So we are so far behind. And people
who think that whether the federal government's going to step
up and uh and help you with this, I don't
think DOGE is going to allow that.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I don't see. We are so far below target that
people are going to be working well into their seventies.
The catch up amount for Indiana five hundred dollars a
month at age fifty right now.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I just don't think that's very And you know, when
you keep hearing I heard this couple of weeks ago
about the consumer outlook and what do they call that?

Speaker 1 (34:20):
The consumer sentiment?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
How you feel, how we as consumers are feeling right now.
It was very up and positive. It was up from
July and it was But I don't understand it.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
I don't understand where they get those figures of people
without this optimistic.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Oh, they're done polling there, they're polling. It's just a
small University of Michigan. Michigan does it and they've done
it forever, and it's just consumer sentiment. And they pick
up the phone and they call whether they are I
think they.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Feel good about the future.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
And but if this sometimes when I hear this news
standing that doesn't feel optimistic to me.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Here's the grocery prices, I mean everything.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, you remember during the Civil War there was the
Mason Dixon line. Yeah, if you're north of the Mason
Dixon line, if you were in what we would call
the old Union, you have to save a lot more money.
If you're in the South, the best chances Mississippi, you
only need to save three hundred and thirty dollars. Their
standard of living, the cost of living is much lower.

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And so the three best states that are on track
are Mississippi, Arkansas, and Louisiana. So other thing to do
is save all your money in the north and then
move south because you'll have enough money ton't make it.
But higher incomes mean that you have higher targets. You're
probably seven to nine percent. Means that if you're in
the high income or low income state, the portion of

(35:39):
your paycheck that you need to save right now, Terry Lynn,
you should be saving nine to twelve percent of your
paycheck right now. Kylin, if you would save five percent,
you're going to be fine. If you would save ten percent,
you will be a millionaire. Yeah, you're going to be
a millionaire. But the whole idea is this catch up.
If you live in Maryland, you got to save eight
hundred dollars a month just to catch up. And uh,

(36:03):
I never liked the East Coast any way. I've been
with those people, and some of them are kind of snooty.
But I bet that the people in Indiana, even though
we're thirty fifth, were in much better shape than the
people in New York, Connecticut all the You know, the
difference between or the strata of middle class on the
East Coast and in the South is really pretty dramatic.

(36:23):
Retirement planning isn't about perfection, it's about progress. So Kai
you've got Terry, You got Terry and me beat because
you've got so many popsicle seasons ahead of you. Just
keep saving, just keep saving, don't touch it. Everybody asked me, well,
what about the four O one K? I said, well,
the four old K replaced the pensions of my parents' generation.
Everybody had a pension, so they stayed with the same

(36:45):
company forever and ever and ever because they were trying
to protect their pensions. Well, then my generation, which is
the baby boom generation, said I don't like that. I
don't necessarily want to have to be you know, bribed
and the staying with the same company all this time.
So there you go, save your money. But if you're
in Indiana and your age fifty, you should have a

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half a million dollars in your four own K. And
if you don't get your fanny busy and start saving,
thank you Denny.

Speaker 7 (37:11):
So you can do it. You can do it.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Dennis delaid, gratification works every time.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
We've got another hour to go. Joining us.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Coming up is former Mayor of Marion County Greg Ballard
stopping buy for some fun and something new too. It's
the first day news is next