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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bump, bump, but that bump. I wish we had sing alongs. Hey,
good afternoon, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I never sang along with an Alvin Brothers too.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Challenge accepted. I'm gonna make a sing along song with
all of the first day lyrics.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I love singalongs.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Talk about a sing along not to derail. Before we
even started, Scholastic just created a new streaming app. It's
for free on Roku, and I think it's amazing. I'm
singing along to Magic school Bus now.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Oh okay, So I was wondering what does that mean mean?
And it's fair. It's just kind of a sing along
thing for you. Well, that's fair. Yeah, that's what made
you think of it. Yes, but we were talking about
sing along oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And all of the nostalgic, wonderful cartoons that I grew
up with as a kid, like Clifford the Big Red Dog,
sure Garfield, Show Me and Friends, the whole.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Thing, what about the Three Stooges.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's not schools about Schoolhouse Rock and really is a
good one. Though it's twelve oh seven, it is a
beautiful Sunday. Did you see at sunset last night? It
was the most spectacular ball of sun i've ever seen
as I mean, it was huge as it went down,
it was just beautiful, the beautiful night.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Maybe it was Kylon that said we've seen our last
sunset after eight o'clock. Yeah, and it really is sort
of shrink in the daylight now, but.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Then daylight savings time will be around the corner in November, right.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, November early Yeah, fall back, love it, love it,
love it all right. So it's a big sports day
here on September twenty eighth. Colton La taking on the Rams.
That's at four oh five this afternoon. Fever played today
in a must win game to get him to the finals,
Game four of the series. Huge game, and we know
that people are already downtown getting ready for it. Aces
(01:44):
lead to to one, got to do it, got to
do it? Come on, we do and it's so much fun.
You got farther than I even thought, but you're doing
it and it's fantastic. Three o'clock. That's a three o'clock game,
and it's right here on WIBC. I think John Nolan
right play by play, he'll be don't play play by
play And Bria Goss two forty five is pre games
with Eddie Garrison. With Eddie Garrison, I think Eddie Spaghetti
(02:07):
Garrison as well.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
We know him.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's the annual Join in imp D Week. As part
of Join IMPD Week, they're hosting special pre academy readiness
workouts to help future recruits prepare for the physical and
mental demands of the IMPD Training Academy.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Denny, do you think you could do good at that?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I was just thinking about you, Ky. I think I
could survive for about two days. But Ki, you could
do this. The soccer soccer player and you you're in shape,
you could do that.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
You can come on out and mental. Yeah. IMPD Training
Academy they're doing it there, and you can come out
too with your workout clothes, bring some water and get
a taste of what it's like to become an officer.
That's Tuesday at six thirty pm at the PD Training Academy,
which is about tenth and posts.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
They're doing stuff all week until October fifth, right, So
they've got a ride along if you follow along along
on their IMPD News social media, they'll do a ride
along with an IMPD office one thirty to ten on
October third. That's this next weekend and then they'll be
at the touchdowntown next week as the cults are back
in town.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I did a ride along once with the Sheriff's Department.
I was supposed to cover the back doors they were
raiding this drug house. And I'm going, wait a minute,
you guys cut the guns. What am I supposed to
spit on?
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Really?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Something? Really to do? Well? Ride along? They do civilian
ride alongs often and you should check out what they
go through. Amazing and we appreciate you. God bless our
police officers. Okay, so anyway, we unfortunately were unable to
get to Denny Smith and Denny's Dollars and since last
half hour and so guess what, guys, it's time for
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Denny's dollars and cents. Everybody sing, Here we go.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
It wouldn't be dollars and cents with the out a bit.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
We got the singing. That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You've got a friend and Denny. You've got a friend
and Denny.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Denny wave to the don't choot rascal.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You just remember what Denny said, Oh you've got a
friend in Denny.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Oh yeah, have you guys ever heard this saying in
the Wall Street that bulls make money, bears make money,
and afraid of that, and pigs go to slaughter.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's what I've heard.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
It's been said that you need to be bold in
the stock market when everybody else is afraid, and you
need to be afraid when everybody else is bold. And
what I heard this week that I hear all these
investors singing this tune. It's going to be a soft landing.
This time is different. We're flying forever. I'm also a pilot,
and a pilot does not avoid the blinking light that
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says low fuel. And I think that's what we're coming into.
There's this stock market euphoria, and analysts have been predicting.
I follow the earnings, and I look at all the
annual reports and the quarterly reports, and they're all predicting
huge in twenty twenty six for income. And I'm just
not seeing that in corporate America. And I'm starting to
get a little bit jumpy or cautious. And there's this
(05:09):
reality check. All right, Terry, do you know what el
Do you know what l E?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Eyes are?
Speaker 6 (05:14):
L E? I?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, like a la.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You were around your landing landing, Elia, it was Ellie
l E.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I how about landing leading leading economic indicator indicator.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, you got it. I knew you'd remember.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
The leading Okay, now, listen, if the Colts were zero
in seventeen oh, zero and seventeen the whole season, would
you call that looking good?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's a losing season.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That's a losing season.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
The leading economic indicators have been down seventeen straight months,
so zero and seventeen, zero and seventeen, that's right. So
would you call that good news? No, no, it's not.
But think of it as the economic equivalent of the
cold being zero and seventeen.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Jenny, that's a really good description.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Here's what's back on a game day.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
We saw a yield in version the last couple of years,
and that's when short term rates are higher than long
term rates, and you'd think that if you're going to
give somebody your money for a long period of term,
you want to hire interest rate. Well, it has now uninverted.
And what that means is that normally tells us we
when they first invert, it doesn't you know, it's you're
in the middle of just whatever. But when it uninverts,
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there's a little bit of a fuse that takes place
that says, hey, the recession's coming, and we've seen some
labor market cracks. The temporary jobs are shrinking, job openings
are off thirty percent.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, and how.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
About this, this restatement of the labor numbers. They lost
nine hundred and eleven thousand jobs.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
As a technical I'm telling you this.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
There's no good news anywhere there's a good news. You know,
the soup Nazi way, it is a beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You know, the soup Nazi that says no soup for you.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Okay, well that's the loan tie rope right now. Everybody
expects these rates to go down because they cut a
quarter of a point and they're going to do that
two more times. But I'm telling you what. The credit
card delinquencies are rising as the consumers their finance situations
is getting tighter and tighter. And I don't know if
you guys have credit cards, but if you're not able
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to pay your credit card, and more and more people
are getting onto that wagon. Investors got to care about this.
Markets don't send save this date for recessions. Remember when
Ethan gotten married and he sent us his card Save
the date. This way, recessions don't send out those cards,
so they don't save the dates, so they sort of
sneak up on you if you're not paying attention to
the leading economic indicators. Now I'm a CFO. What that
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means is I'm a chief financial officer type of guy.
I got to grind the numbers. I'm not an economist,
but I'm telling you know, we got some slightly snarky
takeaways that are coming at us here and it's quality
over hype. So you are worried about your portfolio, you
sit down and you talk to your investment advisor and
you say, look, my pucker strings pulling a little bit
(08:07):
high here. Can we sort of tone it down? And
what is he going to do? He's gonna say, Okay,
maybe you want to build your cash position up.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You might want to have more.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Reserves, especially if you're retired. You don't want to go
into something like this and not be able to sell
some of your assets and get cash.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Don't be afraid to build them up.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
If you're really worried, you know, bonds might be looking
a little bit stronger than they have for the last
three or four years. Talk to the people who are
helping you with your money, or if you're doing it yourself,
just pay the hell attention.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I mean, don't believe.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
What you're don't believe what you're hearing in the news,
because those are a bunch of liars.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Anyway, did I see?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I think everybody is a liar, right? I mean, who
do you trust?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Okay, well you know, but I trust you. You know,
Pat Sullivan sells all these Christmas trees. He leaves his
Christmas decorations up through July, and those things the bulbs
start to break out and they start to flash. That's
what the S and P is doing right now. It's
flashing like your rists tree on your porch in July.
Something's not necessarily right. I don't know what it is yet,
but I tell you what I'm paying attention.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Chris Minny's paying attention.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, but here's the moral of the story. Don't panic, Okay, prepare, okay,
listen to the whispond. When everybody else is cocky and
sure and we're gonna win this one, you be cautious,
You be humble. This is your money, This is your
nest egg, whether you're saving it for forty years from now,
or if you save for forty years and now you're
in now, you know, pay attention.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Be be humble.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
You know it's like you might end up on the
side of the road waiting for a tow truck, and
you don't want that in your investments.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Thank you, Denny Smith. That's Denny's dollars and cents for today.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Eue, my phone's gonna ring it now.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Twenty eighth of September. Remember what he said, he's looking
out for us. We've got a great guest coming up
for you. Official holiday season. It really starts December first,
about eighty eight days away, but tickets are on sale
now for Trans Iberian Orchestras the Ghost of Christmas Eve,
And we'll talk to TSO's Joel Hookstra after the break
on ninety three. WIBC multi platinum rock group Trans Siberian
(10:04):
Orchestra is kicking off their Ghosts of Christmas Eve tour
in November, and joining us now to talk about their
return to Gainbridge Field House on December fourth is guitarist
Joel Hookstra.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Hi, Joel, Hey, how's it going. Thanks so much for
taking the time out today.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh my gosh, thank you. How did Indianapolis or how
does Indianapolis get so lucky to be one of the
stops of your winter tour year after year as.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
The Indianapolis rules.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
I mean, it's a great city, yay, I mean, what's
not to like?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
And the Fieldhouse is an awesome venue, So hey, why
wouldn't we go to Indy?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
We are really lucky that you do to continue to
come back. How many years with TSO have you been
playing guitar?
Speaker 7 (10:49):
I've been with them since let's see twenty ten now,
so about fifteen years. Amazingly enough to some people, I'm
still a new guy in the group.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I feel like I've been.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
There quite some time on How did you get there?
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Well, Alex Skolnik was playing with the band before me
in the position that I'm in and it needed to
take a year off, and a couple of people put
recommended me that were in the band, and I auditioned.
It was surprisingly very similar to a normal band. I
just had to audition for two people. Auditioned for the
music director and then for our late great founder creator,
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Paul O'Neil, and both of those went well and I
was offered the job. And it's been a great, great
thing in my life. I mean, I'm just so grateful
to be a part of you. So just the whole process,
everything about it.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
I enjoy.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You mentioned Paul O'Neil, and I know that you said
at some point that every note can be seen as
a tribute when you talk about Paul O'Neil, true is
that still to this day he's always on our minds.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
You know, as a musician, you got to love Paul.
Here's a guy who came up with this concept that
I'm sure a lot of people were rolling their eyes
and thinking, scratching their heads, going, you really think that's
going to sell out arenas? And often we end up
selling the arena twice in one day, as it turns out.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
But comes up with this, puts his heart and soul
behind it.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
Everything he had into Trancesetburian Orchestra to make it a
holiday tradition for people.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
That was his vision.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
And to see that come to fruition, it's awesome. And
as a musician you can always relate to people like that,
because at some point in time we needed to make
the choice between having a normal job and living like
normal people, or making noise with a guitar or that
with fixed strings on it for a living and so
and most people go.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
You really think you're going to do well at that.
So you just as a musician, you.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
Have a way of relating to Paul O'Neil and just
how he went about it, and not.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Just that, but it was the way he believed in
all of us. Paul really.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
He loved us, and he believed in us, probably more
than we believed in ourselves. At times he would tell
me things about myself. I go, gee, you really think
that that was a gosh? I can I can't. I
can't let him down. I got to go out there
and do a good job. Yeah, that's that's what he thinks.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
So no, what a great guy and we miss him dearly.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
He's always in our hearts and minds and we're just
trying to do him proud.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
And I think it's really awesome.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
I think we are at that point now where we're
ingrained in North American holiday culture. I mean it's not
just the successful touring obvious here one of the top
Billboard and.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Pollstar tours every year, but how.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Well the streaming is doing the of the music, and
obviously how well the album himself sold. But you know,
you watch TV as he is on commercials, if you
watch a sporting event, you hear us going out to
commercial It's just it's cool to be a part of
something like that that's really just become part of the
holiday culture in North America.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
At least I.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Want to hear about because and we'll explain if if
there's somebody out there that really does not well know
who trains iberry orchestras will explain what that experience is like.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
But for you, I want to.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Hear Joel, that first time that you went out and
played professionally with TSO and what that experience is was
like for you.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
It was really nervous.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
I mean, there's a lot of people involved in Trans
Liberian Orchestra. In my initial year, there was a whole
lot of people telling me, try this, try this, try this,
try this, try this, and you know, the whole lot
of voices trying to help you. I mean they're all
trying to help. I'm not trying to make it out
like it was a bad thing. Everybody was trying to
help you along the way when it was your first
year and there.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
And it's just such a unique.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Show and fan base and it was a learning experience
for me getting in for sure, and I.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Was extremely nervous.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
I mean, I'm nervous basically every single time I play
on a stage period. I'm just that type of performer
and that type of guy.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
But because you care, That's what makes you nervous, is
that you care about it. You know, It's not just
you're not just standing up there. I mean, you care
about it, and it does it's more anxious. I bet
that it is nervous. You're just anxious. I'll bet not
a therapist, mind you. I don't know what I'm just saying,
you know, but I feel like that you know it
is because you care about it, and that's why you
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get a little excited nervous about it.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
I did care a lot about it. I take it
very seriously.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
I mean, we have a great time out there, and
the rapport is fantastic amongst the band.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
I mean we joke around a lot and have a
great time.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
But in terms of the job itself and the standards
that are there, and I think too just owing it
to the fans. Every band owes it to the fans
these days, especially the way things are these days. When
somebody buys tickets to an event, it's not exactly the
way it used to be when I was a kid,
where you're plunking down fifteen dollars for a ticket to
go see somebody, So you know, we want to give
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everybody their harder and money's worth when they come in,
and we want them walking away like Paul's vision was.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
He wanted them to leave the arena with their like
mouth open going.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
I can't believe, but I just saw way when experience,
and I mean you've obviously seen the band and you know.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
That the experience is very unique.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
It's not really like any kind of typical show, and
I guess I should kind of fill people in. I mean,
those that haven't beeen ts know there's a story on
the front half of the show and it's a bit
of I guess we could call like a rock opera
in a sense, although that sounds too serious and operatic,
but basically, there's a story on the front half, and
this year that's the Ghost of Christmas Eve, and that's
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musically a best of.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Our greatest hits. It will so great opportunity if you
haven't seen us.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
To come out and hear the songs that have made
us who we are and put us on the map.
And then the second half is a little bit more
of a freewheeling rock concert that focuses on the magnitude
of the production. And in addition to we'd like to
think we're enjoyable to listen to and play well, et cetera.
But also we're fantastic to look at. The production is incredible.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
We have a video wall the width of the arena.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
We've got a Pink Floyd esque laser light show happening,
pyrotechnics like you wouldn't believe, have moving hydraulic lifts that
the performers play on and are sometimes out over the audience,
and certainly in the back of the arena we have
lifts as well, so not really a bad seat in
the house. We often run through the crowd and go
right up to you and play and hand you a
guitar pick at center to the kids, and and it
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snows indoors.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Come on, what's not to like about that?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You're right, You're absolutely right there. There's nothing you won't
like about it. It is just truly amazing, and you've
explained it better than I ever could. This fantastic holiday
tradition for us. As TSO is making their way back
here to Indianapolis at Gamebridge Fieldhouse and they'll be there
December fourth, one night only, seven pm. Trans Siberian dot
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com for tickets and then joining us right now Joel Holkstra.
It's got to be cool for you guys, I think
to see the generations of families that make Trans Siberian
Orchestra part of their Christmas year after year.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Yeah, that's something that's very, very unique, and that also
gets back to my initial learning process about being in
the band. But this is a show that appeals to
all ages. We have the story on the front half.
We tend to have families sometimes three generations deep, and
the older people they love the story because it puts
them in the holiday spirit. And then you've got the
kids who are just like they're loving the video and
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the pyro and the lasers and all the action and
they think, oh, that's so cool. And then you've got
guys like in my demographic, like, hey, this is a
rock concert, man, I'm into this.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
This is cool and not like a normal rock concert.
It's a very unique rock concert.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
So that was part of Paul's vision. Just bringing people together,
hence the name. The Transceborian Railway was what brought the
most cultures together. That's the Paul picture. This is an
escape for everybody, something that brought people together despite our differences.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
So we try and celebrate that.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
But yeah, to get back to when I started, I remember,
you know, I was in Night Ranger at the time,
and I was used to making my scowling rock faces
when I was playing, kind of grossing, and one day
I kind of realized I was making a face like that.
I looked down and saw a little kid looking at
me and thought, you, I'm probably scaring that kid.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Like what am I doing.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
I got to lighten things up a little bit, like
you know, so, which thankfully worked out pretty nice because
in the old days I used to just kind of
smile a lot when I played, and so I adapted
a little bit more of that persona or allowed that
to come back out with TSO. So just trying to
take it a little more like, hey, this is a
friendly situation here.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
I'm not your grandparents, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
For the first time since COVID, TSO is bringing back
a fan favorite tradition. Speaking of traditions, the TSO signing line.
And I'm assuming that, as you've done in the past,
you've all this is also part of a charitable mission
when you come to it a town that at least
a dollar from every ticket sold goes back here to Indianapolis,
and you've given us tens of millions of dollars when
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it comes to charitable work that you do in each
of the cities. I'm sure that's still part of the show.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Yeah, we're very excited to have the signing line back.
One of the greatest things about TSO is our connection
to our fan base that are so dedicated, and we
want to be able to reward people by coming through
and being able to chat with the band, take a
picture with us, us, have us signed something, et cetera.
So that's after every evening show. So and yes, as
you mentioned, Paul o'mill set it up from every ticket
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sold goes to local charities and so now over the
years we've been able to get over twenty million dollars
to local charities through doing this.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
So that's definitely a feather in our cap.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It sure is, and we're grateful for it. Every one
of your stops grateful for it, all right, TSO is
the Ghosts of Christmas Eve. Tickets are on sale today
back in India at Gamebridge Field House, December fourth, one
night only. It's and for tickets go to trans Siberian
dot com. Joel, thank you, thanks for coming back and
for raising money for charity here in Indy and for
also making us part of your Christmas tradition too. Thank
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you so much.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yeah, thank you so much. Thanks for taking the time
out to chat today and helping us get the word out.
Appreciate it. Couldn't do it without you.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
We've got the latest for you coming up after the
break on ninety three WIBC twelve thirty nine. Here on
a beautiful Sunday. Thank you so much for joining us
here on the first day. Terry Stacy, Denny Smith, Kyl
and Tally. It's time for our first day show.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
And tell look what the dog drug is.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Ethan Hatcher is here from Saturday Nights on the Circle.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
If it's going to be anything, Denny, it's a cat
chat man.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, all right, I tell you he's.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
A he's a dealer. No, he's an antique guy. He
loves antiques, he loves his histories, enthu enthusiasts. It raises goods,
things to look at because I love history. And so
if you're watching on YouTube, you can see what Ethan
has brought us today? Hi, my friend, how are you?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
I am excellent, Terry. Thanks for having me on the show.
I always am excited to bring you new goodies to show.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Is that a projector?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
No, this is a teeny tiny match stick dispenser. It
would have sat at a grocery grocery wholesaler at the
turn of the century. And I love how everyday objects
were just elevated to a higher art form. Everything was
given honor and status.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Remember when we had two things like that, we had
toothpicked dispensers.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
This is even fancier than that because those toothpack dispensers.
You gotta twist yourself. Check this out, Denny, All right,
there we go. Okay, pulled out that. I'll pull out
another one.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Pull out doing the little lever.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
And then it fetches another one and it dispenses it.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So does it have a you have to wind it up?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Uh huh.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
You just pushed down the lever right here like so,
and then it's ready to go.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
To those of you on they can't see it, describe
it what it looks like.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
To those listening, Well, I just say, let me get
the cameron.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It's made of it is.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
It is a cast iron black box. With it it
does resemble vaguely toothspick dispenser. And then when you lift
the top off of it, there's a little screw that
keeps it in place. This is where all the match sticks.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
How old is it?
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (22:42):
This is about one hundred and twenty years older in
the vicinity at this point. Cool, right, isn't that so?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Like?
Speaker 6 (22:48):
You don't see that kind of craftsmanship in mundane objects
like that these days.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It's look is there's such detail? Where'd you find it?
Speaker 6 (22:58):
I found this at the Heartland Antique Festival in Richmond, Indiana,
a couple of years ago. It's held every June, and
I've found some great stuff out there. But it began
its life at the Roundy, Peckham and Dexter Grocery Wholesales
Wholesalers Corporation in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. And that is a company
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that goes all the way back to eighteen seventy two.
Terry where you're stounded.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
You're saying you stole it.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yes, I stole it for about five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Is that how much? Really?
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:30):
That sounds as it was. Well, it's so cool. When
are you going to come up great and what are
you going to get another one?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Like it's beautiful condition and it really is a piece
of art to me when I look at some of
this stuff is art.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
So they operated as a wholesaler from about eighteen seventy
two to nineteen fifty five or thereabouts, when they ultimately
transitioned into the retail market and became the Roundies supermarket chain,
which continued to be in operation until twenty fifteen when
it was a fish purchased by the Kroger Corporation of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
OHI I remember the name when you said that name,
round Ease, and I thought, that's still around, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
No, I think it's still well, I think some of
the chains are still operational, but it's under different corporate ownership.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Now wow, Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
And I thought we could talk a little bit about
since it's a match stick dispenser, we could talk a
little bit about the history of matches, because this is
something that a lot of people overlook. Well think about it, Terry.
I know, up until the nineteenth century, there wasn't a
portable way to start fires outside of flint and slint
and steel. Outside of flint anima class, which is something
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that even the Romans used. But besides that, you had
to carry the fire from a fire to another fire
in order to start it. But the original match sticks
were coded in white phosphorus, and this is a highly toxic,
highly reactive chemical that ignites under basic friction. Have you
ever seen those old like Looney Tunes cartoons where they
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strike a match stick on the bottom their shoe. That's
because it was it was physically possible to do with
the more chemically.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Do you remember did you see that? Yeah, I didn't
know that was actually I.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Remember walking over to.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
This on your behind right, Well you can you would
do that with a white phosphorus match stick because it
is a more volatile chemical, but it has incredibly negative
effects on the health. These match stick girls who worked
in match stick factories would develop something called fossy jaw,
which is a terrible disease that's caused by white phosphorus.
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It would seep in through the cavities in their teeth
and cause their bones to rot.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Because lord, this is Family Radio, I think.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
It's very interesting. He's like a history book.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well it became he's like Quincy's.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Fan had no idea never even knew of that story.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
It's because white phosphorus would react with their with and
they would breathe with the moisture vapor and the carbon
dioxide in the air, and then it would seep in
through their jones. It blocks osteoblasts in the body. I
was going to say that, And so the bone tissue
that regenerates more quickly, like your jawbone, will be affected first,
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and the only way to take care of that is
to rip the affected bone out.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Yeah, yeah, terrible stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
We can.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
We continue to use white phosphorus matches up until the
nineteen thirties in the United States, even though it was
known as far back as eighteen fifty six. I think
that this white phosphorus was bad stuff, and they developed
the more chemically stable, refined red phosphorus, which is what
we use on matches today. And the red phosphorus is
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not on the match stick itself, it's on the striker.
It's bits of pulverized glass and red phosphorus and that's
what makes the ignition.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
And it turns red phosphorus chemically into white phosphorus when
you strike it on the on the strike serface.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
You're going to burn the studio now, I love the
smell of it.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
We're safe. It won't even me off a file.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I like the smell of a burner.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Thankfully, Denny's a fire marshal too. Financially by Ethan, we just.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Have a couple of minutes. Great story. You bought something
really cool? What a week ago? Two weeks ago?
Speaker 6 (27:21):
Oh, you're you're talking about another one of my phonographs.
I went down to Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
He loves these things. Is that how many?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
They're all different sizes. Some of them are a bit
no bigger than this match Dick dispenser, and some of
them are console sized or larger. So they're they're all
different sizes and makes and that's part of what makes
collecting phonographs fun. But yeah, what you're talking about is
the Edison Diamond disc jacobean art case model.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I was going to say that too.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
I know Denny, and it wasn't a commercially popular model.
It was one of their worst sellers, which is what
makes it rare today. And that's why I went popped
down to Ohio and snapped that super cool. He finds
all kinds of answer are you going.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Next or what are you looking for next? Anything?
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Well, I have my eye on a little tin mechanical
scare of beetle that was made by the Marx Toy
Company and that's being sold in Ohio. But I just
don't have the spare cash lying around these days.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Boy, Uncle Denny's bank right next to you. That's the guy.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
You got me a loan to float? What's the interest rate?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Ethan Hatchercher? He always gives me the look and I
think I got a finger with that when that time, Denny.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
It was a pointer finger Ethan.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Hatcher With Saturday Nights on the Circle, Thank you, my friend.
It's so fun to have you here with first day
show and tell thank you. Food news coming up next
ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Do you like that? The twenty eighth night of September.
I love her so much. It's just Taylor Precious.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It is Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I had to mention it because coming up this week
is her release party for her new album, The Life
of a show Girl, and there's plenty happening. Theaters are
going to be hosting her music video and film specials
across AMC Regal Alamo Draft House, The Living room, theaters,
so many other things October third, and then release party
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events at your local coffee shops, the plenty of different
things around Indianapolis. And then to begin our food News
fun Fetti Company.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Right, they're released food News. Everybody that's Kyl and I'm Terry.
That's Jenny. Also here's Ethan Hatcher.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Glorious is releasing Taylor Swift inspired sour dough bread mix,
and that kicks off our food News.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Oh, we were so impatient. We wanted to hear the
song first. She had a whole plan about it pre
Race show. I like what you do. We always like
what you do. So it was a I know when
she mentioned she had been making sour dough when she
appeared with her now fance in the podcast. I know
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that the search for sour dough starter was like up
three thousand percent search.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Search on our street Little crek Avenue who sells sour
dough on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. She sets up a
little tint and.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
She sells the bread or she sells the starters.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
She sells the bread good.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It's best bread for you? Is sour dough is the
best bread for you?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Good for you. Some food news for you. I want
to say a heartfelt goodbye to Fountain Squares a Cup
of Try. They had their going out of business sale yesterday,
but it continues today until two pm. If you want
to stop by and buy any of their furniture or decor,
or even just say farewell, head over to a Cup
of Try.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I almost a god thought you were saying goodbye to us.
Oh my heart, she's leading it.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'm so sorry to freak you out like that.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Well, I mean she's wisped the witch right now at
the zoo.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
On other side of things, there are some silver linings
in Beech Grove is a beach Grove is officially reopened.
The Clubhouse, the new one from the owners of Pots
and Pans, is having their grand opening next Saturday, October fourth.
They're gonna have a little pumpkin patch, dog doodles, live music,
even a dog costume contest. Jenny Terry, you need a
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dress up your dog and head over there.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Go over there the clubhouse.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's off of the moon On when next Saturday, Okay,
good October fourth. And then today is National Drink Beer Day.
But I'm sure you're gonna be having plenty of that
during your Colts game later today. So I want a
spotlight Tomorrow's special day, National Coffee Day. I think it's
perfect for a Monday. It's gonna be a long day,
but that's okay. We're gonna talk a little bit about
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some food deals. And you know, you can't recreate the
smell of coffee unless you're there, but we'll try with
a little bit of ambience. How about that?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Okay, what are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
A little coffee shop Onmbius?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
All right?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I do like the sound of a coffee shop.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I wish the coffee deals for you. Chrispy Kreme. My
favorite is going literal with the Cup of Joe. They're
having a free medium, hot or iced cup of Joe
and any donut they're partnering with Joe Jonas for it.
And then if you want to be nice, you can
get a one dollar dozen deal by any dozen of
donuts and get the second glaze dozen for just one
dollar and share with your coworkers or the family, however
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that turns out for you. Smoothie King, they have a
free twenty ounce almond mocha or Pumpkin coffee high protein
smoothie and that one is free. You just show up
in store. You show them that you have a corporate
coffee shop app like Starbucks, duncan you literally just show
them that you have a coffee app and they'll give
you the smoothie for free.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Moving on.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
If you're going to be a gas station visitor tomorrow,
I'm sure you will be because Terry says that Mondays
are the best day to get gas.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, that's I agree. Before Wednesday. Wednesday, it feels like
it goes up. Mm hmm uh huh.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Circle K and your loyalty members there you can get
a free medium hot or iced coffee Pilot. If you
have the app, you can get any size hot coffee.
They have some pretty cool flavors to choose from. They've
got their fall menu Bourbon, pecan, pumped and spice cappuccino.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And then Casey's. If you're a rewards member there, you
can get free any size hot cup of There are
Casey's darn good coffee.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
They are growing with their pizza business.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
A lot of the Circles have been sold there.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I think they're bought by Mapco, so a lot of
the Circle K's are now Mapco.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I knew that, But I'll tell you what. We got
a wa while that moved in and they opened their
doors last last Friday. Spent the night in their with
their lawn chairs waiting for the free T shirt. When
they opened up Friday, the new butt I went. You know,
I love I love gas station food.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
You like the roller, you like the roller cooker for
all the hot dogsos.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
But I do want to mention with all of these
many different corporate coffee shops, you want to spotlight local
coffee shops as well, because here in the Central Indiana area,
local coffee shops outnumber Starbucks locations. And that's what we're
going to feature on today's Food News Taste Seeing for today, Terry.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
You've got they it's done a couple of things. I
love cold coffee, and you brought us wine.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
We've got the campfire Chie. It's iced, it's got a BlackBerry,
marshmallow and cinnamon taste to it with a shot of espresso.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
All of those I tasted really good.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
The BlackBerry was really nice and fruity.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
The campfire Chie is the best.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I do love that campfire tries cold.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
And then on the hot drink, we've got a cozy
pumpkin a pumpkin latte with warm brown butters. And this
is all from Foundry Provisions. Foundry Provisions over on sixteenth Street,
up Delaware. I believe if you wear Cold Scared today
you can get ten percent off of your order. That's
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what I did, well Fever, and then I threw a
cold jersey on top. Yeah, head over to Foundry Provisions
if you want to try that. And then the final
food news for you is that Tinker Coffee and Company
and co Check Coffee are both in the running for
us Today's search for the best independent coffee shop you
can go the until Monday, October twentieth.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Good job Ki, what's going on there?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Enjoy every bit of it. We gotta go Happy National
Coffee Day tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Thank you for the drinks, Kyle, and we appreciate it.
Thanks to all of our guests today, Ethan, thanks for
coming in, Thanks for having me. Denny, thanks for coming
in for free again. You bet have a great rest
of your day. Go Cold Goast, you bet. We'll talk
to you next week.