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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody. Good morning to you and you and you
and you.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Welcome to the first day show, first day of the week,
so officially, so we're grateful to have you with us
for the next couple of hours.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
On this first weekend in November. Everybody got a little
extra sleep.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I watched them feeling a soccer game.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Girls.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Girls are different from when I was in this sixty girls.
I was watching the girls state championship game, and I mean.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
What does that have to do with Did that keep
you up lately? And you got to keep you up late?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, I've been thinking about all these generational changes. You know,
we were talking about that and I'm just saying girls
can run.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I don't. Okay, sorry, And anyway, so you'll go in
the we once again once again, I just do that.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Keep you on your toes.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Ladies.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well, we were following you for this is going to
tie into daylight saving time house.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
But anyway, I hope you.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Did you get an extra hour sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yes, that's Denny Smith.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm Terry Stacy Kylin Tally is also here producing today's show.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Hope you're having a fantasm.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
You said you want spontaneous.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I know, and I do. Yeah, oh you know I do.
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Okay, So anyway, what I do want to say about
the daylight saving time is this is that there are
a lot of more deer collisions car deer collisions during
this time, during this transition, and so just be really careful.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm wondering if somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Said something about a deer whistle that you can put
on your car. I don't know if that works.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
They used to be on a lot of different they
were probably in the seventies. It just as the wind
goes as you're driving, the wind goes by it and
just makes a loud whistle.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
You can't to warn the deer.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
You warn the deer they hear the cars coming.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
We should have that. Do they work?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I don't know. I'll have to talk to the girl's
soccer league.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, you know who'll know, Brian Pointer. Brian Pointer will
join us. We're going to talk about the sand Hill cranes.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I know you guys are going to get your top
your news, your real news, not the it's not real
news that we cover him Bore. I'm here, I am
in a hole.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
But we like to talk about great things to start
your day. Important things you need to know maybe or
maybe just some interesting things like the sand hill cranes
to me that are in the migration gration mode now
called my Grace.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
All away from Texas.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's cool.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
And so we're going to talk about that a little
bit and more with Brian Uh. Brian Pointer here in
just a little bit. He is the host of Outdoor
Indiana Indiana Outdoor.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Been on as long as I can remember, start off
on ten seventy at o dark thirty in the mornings
and he just kept right at it. I know it.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Okay, So what are we going to talk about today?
A lot of stuff. Let's see what else doing. Oh,
Dodgers win, Dodgers win.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
We don't want the Canadians to win.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Toronto Pacers got their first win. Yay, finally And you can.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Get a Bogo sub if you text Bogo to seven
seven two two seven to get well, I get Bogo
Penn Station subs. It's like maybe one of us good.
I don't want to say it, but it might be
one of the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
H whens, I know what you're saying. You shouldn't say that.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's a by year. Just let it be. It's okay,
we'll take it.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Will will, we will take it anyway you continues their run.
They're amazing Colts seven and one. I'm amazing. They've got
their kickoff today at one o'clock. We were talking about
sleep a little bit ago, and there's a new study
that revealed the most calming television shows to fall asleep
to have. I do have television on to fall asleep. Okay,
against all the rules, what do you want to sleep?

(03:30):
I watch comedy and Seinfeld is what I usually watch,
and it's on the list is number three. But the
number one, I think will surprise you on what is
said to be according to this study, the most calming
uh television show to fall asleep to?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Am I supposed to guess?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Do you what of guess?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, I'll guess, but I'm going to guess wrong and
that'll make you laugh. Go ahead, okay. I like Smugglers.
I fall asleep to Smugglers. Yeah. All the way people
hide stuff when they come across the show. It is cool.
And these poor pitiful people that get suckered into carrying
forty pounds of cocaine.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
App amount of.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
People, the amount of my friends who go to sleep
watching or listening to truth she'll know true crime is ridiculous.
I have some friends who listen to it to go
to bed.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
True crime scares me.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
I pray for them in my own way. I would think.
I feel like it's a nature channel, like watching and hearing,
which I.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Love, which I would love like the calming app. The
calm app for me is supposed to work with Green
sod one.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Here it is here.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
It is the number one most calming television show to
fall asleep to.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Is Bluey Yes, I don't even know what it is.
You know, Danny, why fall asleep watching bids anymore?

Speaker 5 (04:47):
Well, maybe with your great grandkids you'll be able to
watch Blue Is that it's a.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Cartoon, animated, animated something literally.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
We're going to address the generations a little later in
the show, and I think you'll be surprised about what
we know about Jim.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Well, it was one of the best Halloween costumes that
I've seen. All of the families dress up as Louie
all the time. But even better, I think, is the
theme song.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Oh this is it.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Okay, I'll stop it there so it doesn't get further
stuck in your head. What do they say, mom and dad?

Speaker 1 (05:24):
And then this is bingo, bingo, bingo. I can understand it.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Wait a minute, This puts adult to sleep.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
This is the theme song.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, Louie is, according to this study, is the most
relaxing television show to have on at night.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Whatever happened to that Purple dinosaur Smarnie?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, since Seinfeld was number two, I was wrong about
Seinfeld and mister Bean.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Is number three.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
He's pretty funny number three.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
All right, you know what we're gonna, We've got, we're gonna.
Let's take a break. Can we take a break early?

Speaker 6 (05:53):
Do my time?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
More news? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
We should, because it really is some good news as
far as as good people in our community that are
working very hard to make a difference. Can't wait for
you to meet him. That's coming up next ninety three WIBC.
All right, good morning, everybody, thank you for joining us here.
On the first day ninety three, WIBC Terry's Tasty along
with Denny Smith and Kylon tally Well.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Friday, a couple of federal courts ruled.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
That the USDA must tap into the con Contingency Funds
to cover at least part of SNAP, which is the
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits for November, and what we
understand is that I'm trying to keep up on it all.
From what I understand is that the SNAP benefits did
not arrive on Saturday. Yeah, that we're supposed to arrive yesterday. Anyway,

(06:42):
We're going to get the very latest and also to
an organization that is really doing that making a difference
and is out there to help, especially right now.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Mark Lynch is here with us.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
He's the director of advocacy at the Indie Hunger Network
and Mark, we are so glad to talk to you
this morning.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
How are you excellent?

Speaker 7 (07:00):
Good morning ladies. Thanks so much for having me on.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
You bet you you know.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
So this to help us get up to date on
where we are with SNAP today.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
Sure, So I'll do a little bit of Indiana first,
and I will say Indiana has received their SNAP payouts
from the federal government on November the fifth and November
the twenty third, where the scheduled dates with the government
shut down and SNAP not being funded because the whole
federal government hasn't been funded because the shutdown unfortunately started

(07:29):
at the beginning of a fiscal year.

Speaker 7 (07:30):
Are you confused already? Sorry about this?

Speaker 6 (07:33):
So Okay, what happens is so yes yesterday, November one
was when Snap benefits would start for the whole US,
but for Indiana it was the fifth, and then they're
distributed every other day, so that the fifth and the seventh,
et cetera. One of our board members, Adrina Shields, informed
us yesterday that even if the money was in on

(07:56):
Monday morning, that it would take the processors because it's
really just companies nationwide that process that money and get
it on each individual's EBT card. So we're looking at
the delay no matter what, even if the Trump administration
provides the contingency funds, which the courts have ordered them

(08:16):
to do, and the courts have ordered them to do
that or give them a plan by sometime on Monday.

Speaker 7 (08:22):
And that's about all that I know.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Okay, No, that's good. We're up to at least I'm
up to date now and understand a little bit better.
And before we talk about Indie Hunger Network, the situation
here in Indy when it comes to how many people
rely on SNAP and food insecurity, because I understand from
some of the food pantries around town, gleaners in particular,
that say, you know they've never seen such a jump
before this even happened. In the last couple of weeks,

(08:47):
they've they've seen numbers like they they haven't seen before
in a long while.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah, I think that's completely accurate. So we have a
we have a panting network, so there's around two hundred.
There's actually over two hundred entries in Marion County and
the surrounding counties, which is a little bit overwhelming when
you think about you think about that. However, Gleaners is right,
They're not the only ones who have.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
Seen an increase in demand. Across the board.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Our pantry network has reported record numbers at each of
their sites, whether that be a big one like Gleaners,
where they're open pretty much every day of the week,
or whether that be a synagogue or mosque that has
opened one time a month for a couple of hours.
Their numbers are doubling even before this particular snap problem.
And that goes to a lot of things. We've heard

(09:37):
about inflation, we've heard about costs rising in general, but
with the government shutdown, there's a lot of federal work
who aren't receiving pay and if you know anything about
most Americans' budgets, once you miss one paycheck, it's very
difficult to make ends meet. And we're kind of the
you know, we're kind of the Marines where the food

(09:57):
and the Foods Safety Net is kind of the first
one that folks turn to because it's easier to get
some free food than it is to have your electricity
paid or you rent paid.

Speaker 7 (10:06):
Et cetera.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Marklens joins us from the Indie Hunger Network, and Mark,
you're right, there are literally hundreds of volunteer I'm just
going to call them pantries. My mom worked at one
and she told me that people are always reluctant to
sometimes give food, and in spite of the humanity in
the charity that we all want to share, we're intimidated
by expired food labels? Can you give us? You know,

(10:30):
does the expiration date really count when we're trying to
get people fed?

Speaker 6 (10:35):
So I think that sometimes it absolutely matters, especially on
those more picable items like dairy items. And I will
tell you that this is as the director of advocacy,
we also do federal level work. The best buy expiration
dates are not federally regulated or mandated. They're determined by

(10:55):
the states kind of, but in reality, they're really determined
by the manufact so the egg producers, for instance, they
choose what the expiration date is. So we've been trying
to work really hard as a coalition to try and
get food date labeling recommendations from the Food and Drug Administration,
and so far that's fallen on kind of some silence.

(11:19):
We haven't had much luck with that, but that's kind
of how advocacy works, right, It's a long shot. So
to answer your question, absolutely, you can eat some food
past those past those dates, but some of these pantries
they have regulations, federal regulations about when and how, and
so Gleaner is one that's really good about training each
of their pantry partners to make sure that they're following

(11:41):
all of those rules from the USDA and the FDA,
and the smaller pantries kind of just do the best
that they can.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
We talk so much about volunteer food pantries and all
of the support that the community is bringing. They're all
coming together to help during this time, and I'd like
to talk a little bit on their resources in just
a moment, But for you, I want to hear about
your journey and what led you to want to also
give back to the community during times like these, And

(12:10):
we are talking with Mark Lynch, and if I may say,
Reverend Mark Lynch of a Hunger Network, can you tell
us about your journey into this program.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Sure, so was I was in student ministries. I was
a youth pastor for about twenty years down on the
southwest side in Beautiful Canby, Indiana. And in twenty fifteen
I started a nonprofit that focused on basic needs and
we would do projects with indigenous peoples in Central America.
And I was looking for some work here to do locally,

(12:42):
and we landed upon food and got connected with Shelley
Suttle's and Mayor hawk Set's office. She has since moved
on to bigger and better things. And Kate Howe, who's
the executive director of the Indie Hunger Network, and began
volunteering and eventually came on staff in August of twenty
four do advocacy work. And that's kind of how I

(13:03):
ended up where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh, it's a great story, and we're glad you're there.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Truly, I want to make sure that we also get
the information out there for people to help. But Mark,
you know, I know I've heard this and I've seen this,
and I just want to kind of make clear when
it comes to those that need that resource of snap
and need that help because of their hunger and what
they're experiencing in And you know, I've heard the words, well,

(13:28):
a lot of people use the government and need to
get off the couch.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
And go to work.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
And I want to ask you about is there some
truth to that? Is it a misconception? But I want
our audience to know what that face of someone is
because it's all faces and it's all backgrounds that need assistance.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
Yeah, So I think thanks your question. When we talk
about waste fraud and abuse, the numbers of waste fraud
and abuse by the end user, by the person with
that EBT card in the store is very in It
used to be a bigger problem when literally they were
food stamps and so those could be traded or bartered

(14:07):
or sold to you know, twenty cents on the dollar.
The biggest fraud now comes from stolen EBT cards, numbers
the funds from computer hackers. And this is a huge
problem because if you remember a few years ago, at
least I remember, all of our credit cards and debit cards,

(14:28):
we started getting chips in our cards, and it was
kind of a transition time. Well, that offers an extra
level of incredible security that currently the EBT cards, at
least in Indiana. Some states have started to do that.
They don't have that extra layer layer of protection. So
when those funds disappear, they disappear for the end user,

(14:49):
who's the one that needs it the most. So in
my experience in seeing people boots on the ground every day,
the waste, fraud and abuse is negligible by the end user.
It's often the money getting before they even get to
the too, folks.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Forty two I just want to mention forty two percent
of the at least what I'm reading, forty two percent
of the heads of SNAP households are white twenty five percent,
or Black twenty three percent, or Latino four percent, or Asian,
and they come from all kinds of communities, rural, suburban,
and urban, and SNAP benefits are modest, just six dollars
and twenty cents per person per day. So at least

(15:28):
that's the information I have. Is that mostly right?

Speaker 7 (15:31):
Yeah? That sounds absolutely right.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
And really, I mean, I've lived in Central Indiana for
pretty much my whole life and they're.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Your neighbors, right right.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
Unfortunately, unfortunately your neighbors. If this continues, your neighbors literally
are going they might be asking you for food or
you might need to offer them food to make ends meet. Now,
I will say this isn't really I shouldn't say that
this is.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
A bright spot.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
But the children are in school right now, so at
leads during school day, students are going to get at
least one healthy meal. Most schools now have a breakfast
program and after lunch program as well. So that's a
good thing that that so far hasn't been affected negatively.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, and remember these kids, it's not through no fault
of their own, no fault of their own.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Are veterans. These those are veterans.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
These are our senior citizens that have contributed so much
to our communities that that are just one one couple
steps away of getting close to needing help. And so
from your standpoint, Dinny, I'm sorry, go ahead, you've probably
had a question.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I was going to say. You're a preacher. You know
that when you pass the plate, you always got to
say something to get people inspired. What can you tell
to our tell our listening audience about the need and
what they can do.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah please, Okay.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
So I'm going to start by saying it's very very
dark in the food advocacy space because about nine out
of every ten meals that are that that people indeed
are fed come from the federal government. The tenth comes
from every community organization, every synagogue, every mosque, every church,

(17:12):
every center that's trying to reach out and help. The
federal government is absolutely mandatory and necessary. Otherwise, literally, Americans,
who's your children will go hungry.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
Now, the bright side is all of us live in
the neighborhood and if you go to our Community Compass app,
which is also available online.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
It will use your location. It will tell you where
the closest.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
Food pantry and feeding site is. And what's great about
that is those folks need resources. It's wonderful that the
city has gotten together with some private donations and given
to some major players because those major players provide so
much food. But if you start with who is in

(17:56):
your neighborhood, because there is one, even if you don't
know it, there's one and close. And the other thing
that Community Compass app does is it gives you the
opportunity no matter where you are in the whole state
to help somebody who says that they're hungry.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
And they need food for future reference.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
The Community Compass also has snap and Whip stores where
they can spend those dollars if those dollars get repopulated.

Speaker 7 (18:20):
But we can't do that right now.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Mark, Mark Lynch, director of Advocacy of Indie Hunger Network,
and again, so many great resourcers there at indie Hunger
dot org. And everybody's being asked if you can to
pitch in right now because it's we're community, right and
that's what we're supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
That's what we're here for. I believe Mark.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Thank you, thank you so much for helping us today
to understand a little bit more about the need and
what we can do to help.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
We sure appreciate you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (18:51):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
You bet you Indie Hunger Org, Indie Hunger Wait a minute,
I'm doing.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
It wrong, Indie Hunger dot Org.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Thank you any Hunger dot Org.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
I just went on the Community Compass Act did great,
put in, put in a zip code and when he
said that there's one near you, no, kidd, it's.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Right, and then you can take your you know your
non perishable items, your a couple dollars, whatever you can
do right now.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Politics aside, guys.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I understand different sites have different views of this, but
truly it's about it's about our neighbors. So thank you
for listening to that, and thank you to Mark Lynch.
We've got so now we're going to talk about sand
Hill cranes and the migration because it's a really cool
thing to see and it just might make your day
if you get to see it. That's coming up after
the news. Thanks for joining us. It's the first day.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Check your clocks.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
It is eleven thirty four now and I'm Terry Stacy
a long with Danny Smith and Kylon Tally as we
also get you set for the Colts game. Coming up
next hour, we're going to meet the newly selected Colts
Fan of the Year and she is awesome and I
can't wait for you all to meet her. We'll talk
to her in the next hour, but right now, one
of our other favorite guests is going to talk about
the great sand Hill Crane Migration, which is happening right

(19:57):
now in Indiana.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
And joining us is Brian Poynter, a host.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Of Indiana outdoors across our state and here in India
on our sister station ninety three.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Five and one of seven five the fan.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Brillian, you make me sound so important, and you sound
so serious this morning.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
This is you know what I do? Sound serious this morning?
I still have that sty in my eye and I
are we on YouTube?

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Oh no, if we can get a doctor, If we
could get a doctor to take a look at it
a little closer, I'll bring it in my eye up
and maybe they could tell me what I could do. Now.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Brian's a paramedic and he can give that thing a
shot right in the eyes.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Are you a paramedic?

Speaker 4 (20:36):
No? I was just about ready to say. Denny's got
so many jobs. I'm sure MD is one of them.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
He's probably got a scalpel in his pants right now.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Hey, buddy, there is nothing more beautiful than a sand
hill crane's chirping as they fly overhead.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Is it a chirp?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
I call it. It's a chortle, a chortle.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Listen, Brian, Brian does it? Brian, will you do it?
Here's what you're listening folks for.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Did you get that?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Good? It sounds a little dove like it's almost a god.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
But all right, let's back up here. Indiana is uniquely
positioned and it is one of the migration routes for
the eastern sandhill cranes that you know are coming from
the north headed south for the winter as they mother
nature usually has them. And oftentimes people will hear the
sand hill cranes flying over your house and you look

(21:31):
up and you don't see anything because these things tend
to fly really really high, and they look a little
bit like Canada geese because they kind of fly in
a weird V shaped formation that's looks like they've had
too much adderall but it's not as tight as a
not as tight as candid geese. But you look up

(21:52):
and you can't see him because they're way up high.
But you hear that beautiful, melodious short ole. I want
everybody to use that in a conversations before you go
back to work. And what is a chortal anyway? They
are beautiful sand hill cranes, Jasper Pulaski Fish and Wildlife
Area which is up in beautiful Madariville, Indiana, just let's say,

(22:13):
north of Lafayette.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's where my cousins lived Madaryville. They ran the Madaryville
Drive in for years and years.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's fun, is cool.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
There's a history. There's a historic gym there too, if
memory serves me correctly, that they're trying to restore like
one of the old Indiana Hoosier type, old fashioned gyms. Anyway,
let's stay on point, because any be a good story.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Force Brian Fright that went down, that's a good story
for us to get back.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Speaking about Jasper, they even have the Sandhill Crane Saturdays
where staff will be out there and answering questions if
you want to go out on a Saturday evening.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Very cool.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Here's the beauty, here's the beautiful thing. These uh will
start in October landing at this in the in this
beautiful park, and there's a beautiful five hundred acre wetland reserves,
so it's off limits and it's safe for the birds.
And then in the mornings they fly out to the
agricultural fields, and then in the evenings they tend to

(23:10):
fly back and there's this massive observation tower that you
can drive to and get up in and bring a
binocular or a spotting scope and just spend However, much
time you want. And the beautiful thing is you're going
to see license plates in this parking lot from all
over the Midwest and even further. It's truly a destination point.

(23:31):
And it's really spectacular to see them cause they fly
over you and they look like B fifty two's right
over your head in the beautiful right into this field.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I don't want to fly with them in the gyro plane.
But let me ask you a question. This is obviously
not a breeding time. Are they just fattening up to
finish their flights?

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Why are they they? They're just like we all do
we need We're going to break up our trips. So
they spend anywhere from a day or two to two weeks,
depending on however they feel. And there's always birds coming
in and birds taking off, so it's not like they
come in at one time and leave it one time.
The peak of if you want to get up to
twenty thousand, even thirty thousand cranes, is probably closer to

(24:12):
the end of November. I spoke to the property manager
last week and he told me there was somewhere between
three and five thousand. Now just think about that, three
to five thousand Cranes is beautiful, oh my, but it
is worth the trip. Stop at the Triple X and
Lafayette and have yourself a nice little country breakfast. Go
up to Jasper Pulaski. It's a beautiful fish and wildlife

(24:35):
area open to fishing and all sorts of hunting opportunities.
It's just a beautiful ball trip.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
I love this idea, I really do, because that's an
easy one tank trip, you know, I mean that's I
like that idea. Going to see them, And I honestly
did not know. I heard that sound last year, taped
it for Denny and our listeners and said, what is
this that I'm hearing?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I totally blew it. I didn't pick it out because.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
It is such a sound. And you're, like you said, Bryan,
and you don't see them.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
You just hear them, and you're thinking, wow, whatever this is,
I wish I could see it.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
But and when they please, when you do see them,
and when you identify the sound, you look up and
occasionally you'll see these birds. They're like dancing around up
in the sky. It's like going to a Grateful Dead concert.
You know, they all want to be in aligned, but
they're nowhere. Close to being in a line.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I wonder they obviously have a headbird, right, they've got
a head crane, the one that decides it's time to
go or to break, the one that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
The leader. Is there a leader?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
And do they come back every year? Like the hummingbird?
Somebody told me last year this past summer I had one.
They said, that same hummingbird. It survives, We'll come back
to that same spot. Is that the same way with
the sand hill cranes.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yes, they're very they're smart. You know, this is a
beautiful thing about Mother Nature. She's perfect in every way. Yeah,
and she's given these birds and geese and all the
migratory waterfowl incredible instinct. So that's why this particular location
is a destination for him. The dairy villain a jasper
Pulaski Fish and wildlife area, and stop in and make sure, well,

(26:06):
I've done this a few times. You make sure you
take a coat because you get up on that observation
tower and in the fall evening you can get cold
real quick, and you don't want to be rushed out
because you're too cold to watch the sandhills.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Hey, did you go bird hunting yesterday? The duck season
opened yesterday, didn't it.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
I did not. I was at a wedding, Love me,
a good old fashioned wedding, so I gave yes, right
right now, We've got We've got everything in you got
all the seasons are in. Firearm season starts per deer,
which is a big tradition for a lot of folks
in a couple of weeks. But did you know that
we're being invaded by Mediterranean geckos in the state.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I heard that story, and I don't know that they're
going to survive in our climate.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Right They've just go along with Armadilla's. We got Armadilla's too.
They're taking over. They're taking over.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's crazy, okay now and cats living together? I know, listen,
I really am.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
I do believe that before long we will have bear
just that will be everywhere. The bears will be everywhere.
But I do want to ask you so as far
as because I've really become such a bird person after
this sand, is there anything else migrating?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
When we look in the sky, anything else.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Ever you're seeing? You're seeing big flocks of geese fly south.
Oh yeah, yeah, you know the geese will only fly
south as far as open water. So that's why we
have so much resident population of geese. All they need
is water and some food, and with some milder winters,
they're not dumb. They're going to only travel as far

(27:40):
south as they need to. But yeah, you're gonna you're
going to see a lot of migrating birds, a lot
of the ducks and stuff. They're kind of already south,
but you know, the big ducks of the mallards. When
those cold fronts move through up in Canada and the
Upper Plain States, we're going to see a lot of birds.
And that's a lot of fun for a lot of
recreation and seeing bird watching here in the States.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
So fine, okay, all right, anything else to Brian point
or raise your hand, anybody anybody in on YouTube and
you got a question for Brian.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Nothing we've been.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
By the way, we're really not being we're really not
being invaded by geckos or armadilla's. But it's kind of
a cool thing because we have them.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
They're so cute, the little leopard spots.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yes, these little Mediterranean geckos, they're cute as it all
get out.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Now, But we did mention one we do mention.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I do mention because I've seen a lot of baby
bobcats that have been rescued. But before long, you're going
to be able to do something about this, right and
in a torrible manner.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Well, the bobcats are a beautiful creature. I've yet to
see one in forty five plus years of being in
the Indiana outdoor woods. But I will tell you, in
the last five years, I've had more people send me
pictures and show me stories as recently as last night, and.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Close in close to indian in Indianapolis or in the
suburb I'm talking Zionsville.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
I'm near Denny. He's probably got a whole herd of
him in his I was just.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
About to tell you, Brian. I know you're going to
listen to the rest of the show, but we're going
to talk about the generations. And one of the funny
things about Generation C is they always want to bring
an emotional support animal. And I have heard that there
are emotional support geckos. Is there any truth to that?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Probably probably emotional.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Support gecko I was. I can't believe they're lovable a lizard.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
I don't want to say anything badly because I know
they provide comfort to a lot of people. But who
the hells a great dane on an airplane?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I saw that, Oh boy, when you started.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Talking about it before.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
When you started talking about deer hunting, her finger was
on the dump.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
But everything, I know.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
The rules with Terry. I respect your rules, and I
respect all kinds of great stories outside of that.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
And I respect truth, and we have some rules.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
As you guys leave this conversation, you have to use
chortle at least one.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
That's short. Okay, again, Brian, before we let you go, listen, Oh, listen,
do it again.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
You're gonna win an Emmy for this segment.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I'm sure you really are the Sandhill Crane imitator and
it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Okay, we're gonna let you go. Get out of here.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Thank you so much, Thank.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
You so much, Brian Pointer again, host of Indiana Outdoors,
heard on all across the state and particularly here in
Indianapolis on her sister station one oh seven five the Fan.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
All right, would we come back?

Speaker 5 (30:34):
That a group of bobcats is called a clouder or
a cluster. I got curious since I had to look
it up.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I didn't know clouder.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Brian's real job is he's a commercial real estate guy.
One of the one is best in Central Indiana best.
So if you need if you need to sell a
building it's commercial, you talk to Brian Pointer.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
He's terrific in all all things.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
And if you need to talk advice financially, we'll talk
to Jenny Smith.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Coming up, coming up dollars after the break on ninety
three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
You've got a friend in Denny.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
All right, So there was a really neat article about
the generations this week, and so apparently half of humanity
now belongs to two generations that sound like failed energy
drinks from my standpoint, Gen Z and Gen Alpha. That
makes up half of the world at four billion people.
And this was a study was a big year, that

(31:27):
was a big year for baby making. Well do you
know when it started?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Look that's the two on the on the latter.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Nineteen ninety five to twenty ten, and then from twenty
ten Gen alpha is two and ten forward. But the
point is is that the generations are exchanging rules. If
you're a baby boomer. If you're a baby boomer, then
you you remember when men landed on the moon. Okay,
that's how you know you're baby boomer. If you're a
gen xer, what do you remember? You remember that when

(31:52):
Blockbuster closed because you couldn't get your videotapes anymore. If
you're a millennial, are you a millennial?

Speaker 5 (31:58):
I'm gen Z?

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yourjen say, okay, I am so. If you're a millennial,
you remember when Netflix added ads? Remember when Netflix didn't
have any ads?

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Man, I remember that too, all right?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
And if you're if you're gen z, you don't remember
where you were because your phone tracks it for you. Alright,
all right, I just said and the first.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Words is okay, you clocked us on that one.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
And if you're Jen Alpha, if you were born in
twenty ten and beyond, your first words were Alexa.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
See everything has changed.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Everybody's alex.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Just remember when I did that? Was calling my mom
and boy, I shouldn't be doing that. The progress that
we've made from rotary phones to ring lights, we have
a whole generation that not only does not know how
to do cursive writing, they can type three times as
fast as we can with their thumbs. Yeah, it's just
an incredible And what this really means.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Some are going to fall off kids.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, Well, what it means.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
Whoa, whoa, although it does.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Change the issue as we evolve the form of your
only going to be one old, they're going to be
a thumb and a forefingers as never mind, Anny, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
No, I was just going to say, if you're fifty
year older, you don't even know what your thumbs are
used for on the phone. You know, if you're fifty
year older, we only use our pointer finger and we.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Know how to write, oh my god, but we know
how to cursive write.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Yeah, we don't know how to sign our names, not
at all. Being younger.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
The demographics are changing, and what you need to be
aware of is that these.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
I know how to sign it. Okay, yeah, I learned
that at a young age.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
What cursive writing?

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Well, I learned cursive writing. My baby sister she will
not be learning cursive I guarantee it, but she knows
how to do your makeup.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
How are they going to sign it?

Speaker 6 (33:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Those makeup you too.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
So the old argument was how are they going to
sign checks? Well, they don't sign checks. They do everything
that digitally.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I'm not sure what you will actually need to sign.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Although there was a little life hack that a parent
was giving on TikTok that said, if you want to
teach your kid's cursive, tell him it's like writing in
a language that nobody can read anymore. And wow, it'll
be like a secret language, kind of a secret language.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Okay, So my son is a gen xer and his
generation they had latchkey kids, remember latchkey kids. Both parents
had to work because government inflation and the bums in Congress,
but they were the latchkey kids. They were the MTV pioneers.
My baby is fifty. I cannot get over that. My
baby boy is fifty and yet and he is also

(34:32):
a lot of know my son, but his generation were
the masters of the eye roll sarcasm. Now can you
do that, Terry? They roll their eyes like, oh dad, yeah,
you know really. Then the Millennials they were nineteen eighty
one to nineteen nine. I don't roll my eyes because
my mom and dad would have nailed me. The millennials

(34:54):
are the ones that do remember vhs. In fact, Andy
was over in the basement helping me move some furniture
around and he saw the old VHS. I said, son,
I don't even have a videotape player anymore, but I
do have a disc remember video discs? Sure, Oh, that's
that's kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
By the way, somebody I gave Kylin a couple of
my GISTs and I said, what do I do?

Speaker 1 (35:15):
What can you do something with these? Because I couldn't
find anything to play them on.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
So y'all our laptops don't have them anymore.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Here's the funny thing about I said I would like
to still be able to burn a CD. Somebody thought
that was arson and the young kids who I was around.
The kids, what do you mean burn a CD? They
don't know. They live with thumb drives if they use
them at all. But you say burn a CD to somebody,
they think you're an arsenist. Oh for crying out loud.

(35:42):
Well yeah, the baby boomers we grew up on optimism.
We had drive in theaters, We had rotary phones. Remember
the rotary phone? Kylind Have you ever dialed in?

Speaker 5 (35:51):
I have dialed one, although I did just recently learn
that a rolldex was an actual thing, and I will
call myself out on that one.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
We used to have a card up.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
You don't know what route I thought.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
I was just saying. I didn't realize there's an actual
physical thing until you brought one into this into work, gone,
They're super fun.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's amazing to me how kids don't have to worry
where they are because they've always got somebody tracking. Parents
are tracking kids right now on their phones, and it's
incredible for me to know that my grandchildren are being
watched by their parents all the time. And I sort
of like that. But you know, it's my generation that
built the malls and the golf and the paper napkins,

(36:30):
and then it was the next generation, these moral high
ground ones that have destroyed golf, destroyed the malls, And
are we going to ever get back to plastic strawg
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
By the way, Washington Square for sale.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I know a million buy it for less than a
million bucks, bro.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I bet you can.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
What should we do with it?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
I don't know. But if what's less than a million dollars,
Denny's got it.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Uncle Danny might buy it for us.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
So the world turns. Half of humanity is already wired
for a digital future, and the rest of us are
still trying to find the any key. Remember when they
would say get any key, and my mom calls me
and she goes, where's the any key? There's no key.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
So anyway, be patient with the other generations. Uh and
baby boomers les, What did you say, Terry fourteen percent?
Yeah right, Oh my goodness. Yeah, it'll be the young
generations shape everything.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
I'm kind of listening because I'm thinking, what can I
do with Washington Square, won't you?

Speaker 5 (37:23):
I think we should make it a laser tag place.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Oh, come and go, that'd be pretty good. Well anyway, that.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Anyway, that's thanks for dollars and cents.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
There's another hour. We've got another hour of the first day.
We're glad you're here. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
The news is next right here on ninety three w
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