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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, we gotta go.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We gotta tell somebody has an attitude this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's our little gobble Gobbler.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I'm about to be Oh. I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
She's been up for a while.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I won't say that.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
All of the Thanksgiving dinner. She's another year older to
our little Kylon birthday.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Had a birthday on Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I don't age.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It was very, very nice, although I don't know what
age I am. I'm stuck on twenty two, so I
couldn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
In these days, you'll grow up all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
He's the funny thing about aging, the interesting thing and
actually the good thing about aging. Truly, truly, if if
all is well, you don't you don't realize how old
you are. You still have the brain, or you're still
thinking like a younger person, whether that's picking out clothes
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, we're basically all animals. Animals don't know their age,
they don't know when they're at risk.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's still good, so keep our brains healthy. Away everybody,
I should say good morning to you. This is the
first dation. On case you're tuning in for the first time,
that would be cool. I'd love to have a first timer.
It is November twenty third. I'm Terry Stacy. This is
Danny Smith.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Good morning, and don't forget this. Smart little girls having
a birthday. You think you're hot, it's not.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
On my birthday weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You better ask ky happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Here.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It is beautiful. Oh, somebody's close my blind Wait is
it nice out It is? It's very nice.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm getting very shunning, especially compared to this morning being
all that foggy.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, but what a sunset last night. Oh my gosh,
it was one of the most beautiful, beautiful Indiana sun
since I've ever seen. I'm not lying. Let's look ahead, though,
because today again we're okay weatherwise for today at this moment.
Looking ahead to your Thanksgiving Day travel, it is going
to be cold. It is going to be cold on
Thanksgiving Day for your turkey egg hunting, you're going to
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have to bundle up. It's going to be cold. On
Black Friday Day, after the day we light the lights
here on the Circle.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The high will be in the thirties. Now think about that.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It's going to feel really cold. So that's what's ahead.
But they should be nice, dry days and I think
maybe even some sunny days.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I heard some bad news this week. One of my
favorite weather casters is Jobastardi from the Nittany Lions, from
penn State. He said, it's going to be wet, lots
of snow and lots of cold. He's for the winter,
for the winter. And that's that's our area from Pennsylvania
over to Illinois.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But that's that's a that's a winter that's pretty average
for Indeed, that's you need to find a new guy.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And congratulations, he.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Could take over the farmer's dominac.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And congratulations to Brian Wilkes, who was weather Caster of
the Year.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Oh that's cool, that is cool. Wait to go, Brian, congratulations. Yeah,
well deserved box office Wicked, Wicked, Wicked, Wicked for good
smashing one hundred and fifty one million dollars plus in
the US two hundred and twenty eight million globally. It
is huge.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Say that's define gravity.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yea biggest debut ever for an ever for a Broadway adaptation,
and the third best among any music.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
All right, popular, Kylon, May you gotta be honest with me?
Does it have a happy ending?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I'm not gonna Denny, come on.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I don't like to go to movies that have bad endings.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You should go and find out a bad ending. I
think you're gonna like it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, we're you're depressed. You're thinking bring your tissues.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
It's not real life, yeah, Denny, come on, is not
real true story?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Green Witches are not real life true story.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Don't you see me flying out there too?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Everyone's in a lot, all right, you guys, We've got
a lot coming up in the next couple of hours.
We're glad you're here. I know. We will keep you
up to date on the news at the top and
the bottom of the hour, the top stories of the day.
But here on the first day, we kind of we
kind of skip around and we lighten it up a
little bit, you know, and we're gonna talk redistricting in
the next hour, but or is it coming up?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Next hour?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
We're gonna talk about that a little bit with a
local professor, and I think you'll find that an interesting conversation.
I know Ethan's gonna drop by and bring us something.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Mold.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh, I'm showing Show and Tell. First day, Show and Tell.
We'll talk a little bit about shopping. Retail sounds like
in some places gen z is bringing it back to life.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
How is Black Friday? Deals are already happening. It's not
a Black Fridy.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Day slamming together Black Friday? What is going on Cyber Monday?
They're all slammed together with one big sin.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
And before we take a break, I mentioned for your
turkey egg hunting on Thanksgiving Day. I wondered why we
I looked this up. I spent time doing it. Why
we don't eat turkey eggs? Because I bet they're delicious.
You know what, that's a really good question, because turkeys
only lay very few eggs a year, and there would
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cost a fortune. The price of them would cost a
fortune because they're so.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Even more than our eggs.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But if you found a wild turkey, and wild turkey
just laid an egg, I've never seen one. I'd like
to taste one.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I've had a duck egg omelet I've never had. They're
supposed to be ostri j Yeah, let's that are supposed
to be to die for. But that's a lot. That's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's a lot of those are very very expensive. But
some restaurants.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
But I've had ducks, but I've never had turkey. I've
never seen a turkey.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
They're there and people have had them before and they
say they're delicious if you get to have them. They
say they're creamier and they're they're they're bigger. But anyway,
there's turkeys just don't lay that many.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So I'd be curious how the nutrition.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Is compared.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Ticket perfect food.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And I think they are eats for every meal, everyone
every and sometimes I do. I love them. I've got
one sitting on the register in the office keeping warm
right now.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's not healthy.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Okay, we're gonna take a break coming up though, And
this is cool. Kylan has a really cool friend and
now I want her to be my friend too. She's
all over the city. She does all kinds of stuff.
November is Native American Heritage meth and we're going to
talk to Haley Jordan after the break. You're listening to
the first day on ninety three w IBC. Thanksgiving is
a time to really express our attitude and share time
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with family and friends. But Native Americans perspectives also are
important to include when we talk about the history of
the first Thanksgiving, and also November is Native American Heritage Month.
You've got a very special guest with us.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Today, someone I am very grateful for as well. She
is also a woman in broadcasting does many things. Just
to name a few, she's a sideline reporter in MC
for India Night Before Volleyball team, MC for IU Men's Basketball,
MC for Indie Fueld Hockey, IU Men's Basketball, Indianapolis Indians.
There's so many things that she does. But she is
also a member of the Cherokee tribe with some Navajo
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blood as well. Hailey Jordan joins us today to talk
a little bit about this. Hailey, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Thank you so much for having me and during such
a meaningful month too.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
I very much appreciate it. Happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Let's start with you giving us a little bit of
your family history.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
My dad is full blooded Native American. His name is
Daryl and he is from Tahaquah, Oklahoma. He grew up
in Indian Country out there, did not live on reservation,
but his native language is actually Cherokee. Unfortunately, he does
not remember any Cherokee because he grew up going to
predominantly English speaking schools, but he was immersed in the culture.
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He went to school with lots of Native Americans and
so he was able to live in that culture ever
since he was young, and then when he met my
mom and moved to Indiana, that is when.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Not many natives.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I didn't go to school with that many natives when
I was born up through college really, and so I
in my adult life have really tried to learn more,
read more about who I am, about my culture, both
my Cherokee and Navojo heritage and as well as other
tribes too.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
But I am happy that I have my dad is kind.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Of my family historian to ask questions too as well.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You grew up and with your dad instilling that from
a very young age, what were some of those traditions
that you guys upheld through childhood and onward.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
One of my favorite traditions in my house and I
haven't seen this in a little while, but when I
was younger, my dad knows how to make custom dream
catchers that was a Native American tradition yet and they
would be.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
In our garage.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
And as a kid, I didn't learn about any of
this in school, so I didn't really know what a
dream catcher was or what all the traditional colors meant.
And to be honest, I'm not sure where my dad
learned how to make them. But I can imagine growing
up in Tahlequah. He picked up lots of skills from
lots of different natives during his early life there.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
But that is still to this day.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
One of my favorite things that I'm most proud of
to share about my dad is that he's able to
do so much to that native craftsmanship.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Well, even you are able to do that now too,
You've picked up skills like basket weaving.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
I worked for the Indianapolis Indians downtown and that team
works really closely with some tribes around Indianapolis, especially the
Miami Tribe, and they really work hard to include Native
American culture and include tribe men in the planning and
branding for some of the teams, and so they host
a Native American Heritage Night every single season.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
At the time, I was Miss Indiana, USA.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
And I was end seeing the game for Native American
Heritage Night, and I thought, this is just so perfect.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
I wanted to be here anyway. It just kind of
worked out.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
And I was walking through the concourse and they had
all of these Native artists and designers there and they
were they had a basket weaving booth set up and
I was like, oh my gosh, that looks awesome. Me
growing up in Indiana and just not being around too
many natives, I was like, this is so cool.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I'm getting to learn more.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
So I struck up a conversation with a woman named
Susan and I was like, this basket is incredible. I
want to learn how to make one. And she said, well,
you can come to my house and.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I'll teach you. And I was like, okay, so sid
and I.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
It turns out she only lives about five minutes from
my dad, and so I would go over there about
once a month and weave baskets with her and her husband.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I got to know her super well.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
And she even picked out a traditional Cherokee design for
me to learn to leave. So it took me over
a year to finish this basket, but it is proudly
sitting in my apartment now.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
So I'm super thankful for her guidance and for teaching
me how to do it.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That is so so cool. We're talking to Haley Jordan
and we're talking about Thanksgiving and the role of Native American.
It is Native American Heritage Month, and I'm told that
Thanksgiving is already a way of life for Native Americans
every day. Is that true?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
I would say so.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
We just have grown up with that mindset. I think
that coming from the Cherokee and Navajo tribe, I always
try to instill that toughness into my everyday life. I
would say that every Native has a factor of toughness
to them, but also this soft, compassionate, grateful side as well.
I love November and being around the table at Thanksgiving
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because I truly feel just I don't know, almost like
the heart and souls of my ancest surrounding me.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
I know that it's really important to.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
My dad and tribes all over the nation. So I'm
just very grateful to be in the center of the
education and culture that Thanksgiving brings every year.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
You have gone through a lot of toughness, you had
mentioned earlier. Yes, you won Miss Indiana USA in twenty
twenty three, and you were the youngest Miss Indiana in
history crowned in twenty seventeen. On your pageant journey, you
also talked and advocated for your grief journey, whether it's
with your mom.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I did not know I was capable of getting through
something like that, and I know unfortunately I'm not the
only one that's had to walk through this, but my
mom passed away when I was twenty two. I was
currently at the time taking my finals for my last
semester at Indiana University, and she was in home hospice,
and so that's really where I saw that Native American
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toughness coming through.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
My dad has always had it. I have seen him
grow up with it.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
He's an Army vet and fought in wars and overseas,
and I just I always said, my Dad's the toughest,
most strong person I've ever known, and I wish I
could be more like him.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Well, unfortunately, you.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Know, that got put to the test when I had
to navigate my grief journey and walk through all of that.
But the good news was I had an excellent example
of my true warrior and true hero, my dad, to
be able to help me and my brother walk through that.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I think that just.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Being Native and just having that strong toughness about us,
that quality, I mean, we have it in our hearts,
we have it in our minds, and that has been
super helpful and getting me.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Through this grief journey.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I'm just so thankful for my dad for him being
just such a stable presence in our lives and still
in a way treating us like adults.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
But also we can still be kids around him too.
Even though I'm twenty seven, He's been I mentally helpful
with my brother and I.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You know, it's interesting that this year's theme for Native
American Month is Tribal Nations, Sovereignty, trust and Resilience. Is
I think for me, the first time I was introduced
to Native Americans, it was the Thanksgiving story. That's what
I grew up learning and knowing. And then as I've
gotten older, we know that story has changed somewhat. And
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so I'm wondering for you that Thanksgiving story, if it's
been told to you, probably different than what we me
as somebody that's older, learned as a kid. Did you
learn that same Thanksgiving story or was your story a
little different?
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I learned the same one that you probably did. I
remember my earliest memory of learning about Native American history
was actually in kindergarten and each class, one class would dress.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Up as pol girls, one is Natives. I don't know
if that would be you know, super politically correct and
stay climate. But as kiddos, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
We're learning and I think that was the teacher's best
way of kind of giving us a real world example
of what essentially happened. And so that's what I grew
up learning, but it didn't really go beyond that. Maybe
everyone once in a while we would read about the
history in our history textbooks back when textbooks were things.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
I'm a teacher now and they are not.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
But other than that, I've really had to do my
own research and read up on tribal history myself because
it's not a super big history unit going throughout school
or even college as well.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Your dad ever told a different story growing up in
the Cherokee tribe.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
He was not, to my knowledge.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
He grew up so his mom was Cherokee and then
his dad was full blood in Napajo, so he had
two different tribal roots that he grew up with. But
to my knowledge, no, he never got a different story either,
even being surrounded by lots more Native American culture than
what my brother and I did as.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Kids for Thanksgiving. For your Thanksgiving feast, are there any
Native traditions of traditional foods that come to the table.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
We do not do any traditional foods in Indiana. But
if you were to ask that to my Tahlequah, Oklahoma family.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
They the full spread.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
They have got a lot of delicious fried foods, and
unfortunately I have not been able to try their fried.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Foods in a while.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
We have not been to Oklahoma in some time, but
I just remember that being such a big part of
not just their Thanksgiving plates, but every weekend they have
some sort of traditional dish with.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It being Native American Heritage Month. What's a tradition that
you are interested in and maybe going to learn about more.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I wouldn't maybe call it a tradition, but more so
of a component of a lifestyle that I would really
like to be involved in. Is Native American pow wows.
They have them all over for various tribes, and I
have seen them, but I have just not.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Been able to get off work to go travel to.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
One of them.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
But that is my ultimate goal and on my.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Bucket list is to be able to attend and learn.
That is where you're going to find the rich Native
American culture, the music, the traditional outfits that they wear,
the languages, the instruments.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
That is where you can get.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
All of the culture in one setting, surrounded by other natives.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Hailey Jordan is there anything else you want our audience
to know before we let you go about Native American
Heritage Month and the Thanksgiving holiday.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
I would just.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Tell everybody, especially those who are interested in history, to
find some sort of Native American literature to just dive into,
even movies out there that more accurately depicts the Native
American holidays, Indigenous People's Day, Native American Heritage Month.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
But that way we can all be.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
More informed and support all Native tribes and our Native
friends too.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
We thank you so much, wishing you a happy Thanksgiving.
Please come back and see us.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Thank you you guys to appreciate you having me on
and sharing a piece of my heart today.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
She's terrific. She's a terrific young lady. Eleven eight guys
coming up. So Netflix opened its first permanent IRL location
Kylnitson Eye in real life and Simon Mall near Philadelphia.
And this exhibit includes like Bridgerton balls and a money
heist escape room. I know it. And here in the Indianapolis,
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we love our malls right, We've got Black Friday coming
up and the shopping that we used to go to
the malls and be there at midnight for the sales
and doors to open, but they have kind of them,
but well they've kind of asually. We know they're struggling.
Washington Squares for sale. We just heard this past week
Circle Center told its tenants you got to get out,
get out here at ye, get out of here and
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so anyway, but according to retail bound dot Com and others,
gen Z is flocking back to the mall. So Johann
Jacob from retail Bound, he's going to join us next
to tell us more about this story. The news is
coming up ninety three WIBC ninety three WIBC and Network
Indiana Black Friday Shopping. I remember buying everything at the
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shopping mall, Washington Square, Castles and Square. I loved it.
Fantastic atmosphere, crazy at times, always fun, and then things changed.
But malls are apparently making a comeback, appealing to gen Z.
There's a story this week that Netflix House is bringing
people to the mall by opening large scale immersive entertainment
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venues inside former department stores. And here to talk about
all of this is Johann Jacob, retail channel management consultant
with retail Bound retail bound dot Com. Hello, Johann, how.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Are you good tail for yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
We're good. We've been hearing that malls are making a
comeback from your perspective. Is this just a story or
is this a real true thing that gen Z is
loving the malls.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's a real true thing, Terry. I mean, if you
want real experiences anymore in the last four or five
years is the COVID we've all been behind the screens, right,
So if you want to get out, don't be entertained. Right.
They want to touch and feel things that those screens
can't replicay, So yes, mall here here to stay.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
By the way, Terry, this is maybe a shift in
shopping behind if you're here something different.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Well, you mentioned before about the next generation, right gen Z, right,
that demographic. They want to be more social than us. Oh,
if you want to fifties, right, So malts have become
are more social nations that it plays to gather or
die or even friends and family. Right. So you can
ice skate the mall, you can boil the mall, you
can play shopping and dining. Right. So malls have become
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more bases in places than just to go buy a
pair of pants or a TV.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
By the way, Johan, do you think that this is
a nationwide trend or is the mall revival kind of
concentrated in certain regions or types of markets.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
That's a great question. I think it's depending on the
on the demographic. I think it's the nationwide industry. I
think I've gone a lot of interests from various brands
that want to do pop up stores and malls versus
New York or Chicago or LA. Right, it depends on location,
but it seems it's a nationwide event.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
By the way, here in Indianapolis, a couple of our
malls have really struggled, and one in particulars for sale.
Those that are that own these malls, they've got to
come up with a different way to appeal to gen
z right.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
That's correct. By the way. Now, before I started Redebound,
whether reda bar for a mall based brand called Seers,
they had hundreds of stores, right, it was a thousand
stores and major malls across the United States. I'll the
time to change mall owners right for how to appeople
back in the store. Right. COVID, by the way, in
twenty twenty cause retailers to find ways to make it
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easier shop like buy online, pick food, store, right, they
enhance their they're both their e commerce and their mobile
shopping now in the mall base La mall owners are
trying it like mobile apps help you navigate through parking
and rewards, you know. So yes, mall owners are trying
to find ways get the Generation z R other generations
back in the mall to not just to dine and
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to play, but also shop as well.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Are there particular categories whether that's fashion or beauty or
entertainment or dining. Do you see which categor goryes maybe
are benefiting the most from Gen Z foot traffic.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeh, that's hard to say, you know, being the Jesus
rather than my kids. Now they're going to the mall
to you know, hang out, you may do dying or
do is we a movie? And by the way, well
i'm there, I'm gonna go go go to a sort
of shop. You know which comes first? Chicken the heck? Right,
if you're going to the mall to shop and then
go out to eat or to play, go go balling
or they go in too modigle bawling and play an
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arque and then go shop. But regardless, the Mali came
to all types of people. All agents, all demographics. So
it's good to see the multi climb back now they
was because years ago Lah doing gloom.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
The Johann Jacob is with US retail channel Management consultant.
He's with retail Bound retail bound dot com. I want
to ask about maybe what malls need to do to
still stay relevant over the next five to ten years.
Do you think about that, well, how they need to
sustain themselves.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Yeah. I think a lot of the bigger mall owners
like Simon and Westfield ye to survey their customers, not
just their retailers who leave space to them, but also
the end customer. Se what do they want. They want
you know, concierge, they want better ways to park, eat safety,
things like that. Right, So I think, you know, mall
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owners to continue to listen to both their tenants and
their customers as many as they want they keep coming back.
I was interested a little fun fact, so when I
US seers eons ago, you know, we did a little
study on malls thirty years ago, people lived three miles,
six miles and twelve miles from the mall were very
loyal to them all right, fast forward till I say,
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maybe fift years ago, people lived three miles from the mall,
We're still very loyal. People live six miles or tall
miles were as loyal, but they had more options off
the mall, like a best Buy, a Polls so way mall,
we're trying to drank it people back to them all
who lived six miles and twelve miles because we lived
three months of the all are just as well they
were a couple years ago. Terry.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
By the way, what advice do you give those emerging
brands that really want to leverage malls to reach gen
z and maybe even some people like me that are
a little older and.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Our clients make innovative products, right, they're not you know,
they're they're not like you're me to iPhone cases or
water biles, right. So they're always trying to find ways
to drive people into the stores. Right, and so we're doing,
uh a pop up or a kiosk or even an
event to drive to get excitement. But you know, you know,
look like Apple and Tuesla, they've done it for years,
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trying people to the mall if you're in line to
get the new iPhone seventeen, right, So I think for
for brands that want to you know uh uh test
new products in new markets. It's a great way to
jump in and get get your feet wet. By the way.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, and well, in that story that I mentioned about
Netflix House bringing people to the mall by opening these
large scale, immersive entertainment venues inside those former department stores,
they're saying, Okay, we believe in the mall. They're making
this investment too.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, a lot of communities that, like you said, are
more distressed areas that every how can we get it back? Right?
So you know, maybe it's a it's more than a
strictional shopping center. It's more of a community anchor to
combines like retail, a co working, health services. I remember
a couple years ago as a consultant, we were asked us, hey,
(24:20):
Spens Retart, they have some some space in the mall
here in Chicago, couple of malls in Chicago. They wanted
to help us design the space to be half co
working in the back and then the front of the
store is stuff that you were actually making in the back. Right,
It's almost like a company said retail slash co working space.
That was kind of cool. By the way, right, here's
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fourteen dollars square feet in the mall, a former support
authority store and this this guy wanted to take that
store and the parson of where Patwistow was co working
for young entrepreneurs. And then the front of the store
was the artists actually sell the products. I know, while
on the malls we isly kind of co concert. Hopefully
someday come with the idea, get it with some funding
(25:02):
behind it.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, for sure. Johann Jacob is his name. Retail Channel
Management consultants with retail Bound retail bound dot com dot com.
And this story, which is interesting that gen Z is
trying the rest to keep the malls alive. Thank you
so much for giving us your time. Happy holidays to
you and your family and friends, and thanks for giving
us some of your insight. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Likewise, Errie, it's.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Eleven forty two. I missed the mall. I miss going
to the mall at the holiday season. Not that we
couldn't here, but on my like on my side of town,
it was a tradition, girl, He's a tradition.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You get done with your Thanksgiving meal, you hang out,
maybe take a little food, coma app and then you
wake up at midnight and go to the malls.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
We just going to the mall to look at girls
and that was it well on Thanksgiving shopping back then.
But we did like it that girls were shopping. We
could find them there.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It was so fun kylon back in the olden days
when honestly, when you were done with the meal and
you'd wait until midnight, you'd go down to Edinburgh and
you'd go to the hit the outlet mall where you
could save so much money. It was just a fun
tradition for so many families. Everybody get in the car
and go really cool. All right, So coming up another tradition.
It is Thanksgiving week, lots of traditions. And Denny Smith
(26:15):
is going to help you save money by not help, She'll.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Just call it. It's the Plumber's super Bowl coming.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Up there you go, that's next ninety three WIBC. Yeah,
you've got a brand and Denny Hey, Denny Paul, Happy Thanksgiving,
buddy boy.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I think it's time for you to sing for us.
Can you do that instead?
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Sure, you're all together again. We're here, we're here. We're
all together again. We're here, we're here, and who knows
when we'll be all together again? Singing all together again,
We're here's how about that?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's a perfect Thanksgiving song.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's a song that we learned in boy Scouts, but
I tried to find and where it got started. Got
started in the eighteen hundreds as camp songs, and the
Church of Latter day Saints picked it up and put
it in their songbook.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You're such a beautiful voice. She sounded a little like being.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Crossbas Oh hey, well.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Hey, I mean real quick.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Being War two pay. I guess I can look forward
to that too.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
So the history of this song, it's a perfect song
I think for Thanksgiving it is. And it was a
children's songbooks and stuff, right, I mean, it was a song,
a mini.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
No And then it was picked up right around World
War One because a lot of the kids that had
gone to camp ended up being soldiers, and so you know,
you can imagine them sitting around knowing they're going to battle,
and somebody pipes up with that song, and you could
just see all the soldiers saying, hey, I know that song.
I learned that when I was in the woods and
all that I love. And so the legend is, and
(27:47):
I haven't been able to prove that or find any
real substantiation to it was that, you know, the soldiers
going off to war, they didn't know where they were
coming back. And so we're all together again, and who
knows when we're going to be all together again? And
then you think about Thanksgiving. I mean, here you are,
You've got families, You've got in laws and outlaws and
all together again. I know, I was thinking about Kylin.
(28:07):
Kylin's got people scattered to the four winds, and I
don't know what she's going to do for the Fast.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I don't even know what I'm going to do for Thanksgiving.
Yes see, I don't know how you guys do it well,
your tradition away, I know, I know, isn't that how
it goes.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I'm sort of off the hook this year because the
grandkids are both getting their wisdom teeth taken out on
Wednesday before Thanksgiving, so I don't think that's going to happen.
But think about this. We are all together and it
normally involves food, a little bit of melancholy, a little bit,
but you remember this, you know, the whole reminiscing thing.
So Thanksgiving can be a fun, fun time, but it's
also one of the few times when we get the
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whole families together where it's not a funeral or a
birth or a death or something.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And then we've got we've got this great day following Thanksgiving,
which is our Black Friday, and all together again for
the lighting of the tree here on the circle Circle
of lights. But yeah, you call it the Super Bowl plumbers.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, on the day after it's for a variety of reasons.
Traditionally people I call it my Aunt Terry and Uncle Sullivan.
Those are my two characters. Okay, so a garbage disposal
is not a blender. So when people come in, one
of the things they do is that there's two different
types of people. There are people who shove everything in
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and then turn on the switch, and then there are
the people that just think it's a you know, it
is a just behave as if you are on the
International Space Station. Anything that goes in there has to
go someplace, and so behave like that. I mean, people
shove everything in there and then they throw the switch.
Here's the right way to use a garbage dispose.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Are you ready to carry and tell us things we
should not be putting in the garbage disposal?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
All right?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Well, the first thing you do is you start the
cold water. Let the cold water go, not hota.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
See that's the ant Harry and Terry thinks I'm gonna
it'll flush all you know what you do, or you're
creating glue about twenty foot down the pipe when it
all cools down.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Never use hot water.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Anybody, those of you watching us on did you know
on YouTube?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Don't use hot water. Start the cold water, then turn
on the disposer, and then feed small amounts into it. Now,
for those of us who are over the age of eighty,
and that is not I I'm not over eighty, but
I remember the first garbage disposals were called batch feed,
where you you just put everything in there and then
you put the little stopper down and you turn the
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switch and then ran the water. That was called batch feed.
So if you're over the age of eighty, I forgive
you for not using it knowing how to use what
we call continuous feed. The continuous feed is turn on
the cold water, turn on the disposer, and feed small
amounts in. Don't jam it up like Uncle Sullivan does.
Uncle Sullivan's subs he puts everything in there as if
it's just gonna and it does, yeah, and so then
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it clogs it up, and then you you got a
real mess. It's a three hundred dollars bill anyway you
look at it.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So you there's still there's things that you think are
okay to put down in the garbage disposal, and you
say not, there's not.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well, there's several. The first thing is don't put potato
skins in there.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
For the traditional he says, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
No, don't do it. They they create such a hazard.
They become glue. Okay, everything that's in a potato skin
becomes glue down down the pipe. All right, don't put grease, Terry.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You heat it up and you think it's going to coagulate.
You know better grease stringy vegetables. You don't want stringy
vegetables like celery. You know Aunt Terry's famous cauliflower cranberry salad.
Don't put that down the disposer. Okay, yeah, bones. Everybody
thinks that bones are going to disintegrate in just a second.
(31:52):
I'll tell you how a garbage disposal works. But don't
they think it cleans the blades horse crocky. It doesn't
clean the braids. If anything can could break the little
hammers that are down there. Okay, rice and pasta. Don't
put rice in pasta.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I have heard that one.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I haven't heard that one.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, because it expands, it absorbs the water, and it'll
cause your.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Apartment will find you if they find rice in disposal one.
It's broken.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Rice is just this little tiny bitty things.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
But they absorb water and they expand, and they expanded
the wrong part of the drainage system. And the last
one is pipe always remain No. Now we're getting into
washed capacity. Now you do know I'm a master plumber
since nineteen seventy one. We depend on the wash capacity
of the pipe to be about forty to sixty percent. Okay,
that means that the pipe is half full. If you
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use something that expands, like rice or pasta, then it
blurts that out and it's it's it's not good. So anyway,
here's the classic Thanksgiving scenario. You're ready, ready, Aunt Terry
scrapes every plate in the sink. Uncle Sullivan flips the switch.
The disposal groans, lights flicker. You hear noises usually reserved
for snowblowers hitting rocks, and then there's complete silence. Congratulations,
(33:06):
you've just earned a three hundred dollars holiday price service
call from your favorite it's probably every bit of three
hundred because it's first of all, it's overtime because of
the weekend, and then they got to get out the machine,
and then they've got to clean it up.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Can I pay you two fifty in a Thanksgiving plate
to come fix mine when it happens?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You know better?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Okay, okay, yeah, I never I grew up without a
garbage disposal. I hate using it. I get terrified turning
it on.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I hat I remember when we used to throw garbage
into the pails, and I remember in the summertime where
the maggots would come and everything. So the garbage disposal
really is a great human device. But once again, I'm
gonna test you both. What's the first thing you do
with your garbage disposal? Water cold water, Tyland gets it.
Number two, don't put any of that other stuff in there.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Number two, You got to turn on the display.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Turn right, but always always with water, always with always
whenever you turn it on, the water and needs.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And what's number three?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Don't put that stuff down in there's.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Small amounts feed it in gradually, all right, and then
we don't want to use potato skins, grease all that
other stuff or noodles.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
The fourth thing, what is it that we do call
the plumber? No, we leave the water running. Even after
you think it's all down. We want to wash it
way down to the bigger pipes where it can pick
up water from the toilets and water from the washing machine.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So keep it running.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yes, we want to keep it running.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Do you do you keep the garbage disposal running or
the water running? Do you keep both of them?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I normally do both of them.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Well, it hurt it if it's running too long after.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
No, Well, if it does, it might go off on
a thermal reset. But there's a reset button on the bottom. Okay,
So remember treat your garbage disposal with respect. If not,
your plumber's going to see you on Blackwater Friday. And
always remember if your sink backs up, it's Uncle Sullivan's
for it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Your favorite Thanksgiving tradition.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
There you go, Well your foot is it?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Danny Paul?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I just think being with Mackie, you know we started
off the two of us. That's probably how.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Many Thanksgiving givings.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Have you shared fifty five? How about that?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
And it doesn't matter what type of garbage disposal you have.
Follow these rules cold water, turn it on, feed it
in gradually, let it run for another ten to twenty seconds,
and then you're in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
And now go enjoy your Thanksgiving food thinking about your blackwater.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Denny, thank you, thanks for doing this for us. We
appreciate it. We've got another hour left. Thanks for joining
us here on first day. The news is next
Hey, we gotta go.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We gotta tell somebody has an attitude this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's our little gobble Gobbler.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I'm about to be Oh. I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
She's been up for a while.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I won't say that.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
All of the Thanksgiving dinner. She's another year older to
our little Kylon birthday.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Had a birthday on Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I don't age.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It was very, very nice, although I don't know what
age I am. I'm stuck on twenty two, so I
couldn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
In these days, you'll grow up all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
He's the funny thing about aging, the interesting thing and
actually the good thing about aging. Truly, truly, if if
all is well, you don't you don't realize how old
you are. You still have the brain, or you're still
thinking like a younger person, whether that's picking out clothes
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, we're basically all animals. Animals don't know their age,
they don't know when they're at risk.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's still good, so keep our brains healthy. Away everybody,
I should say good morning to you. This is the
first dation. On case you're tuning in for the first time,
that would be cool. I'd love to have a first timer.
It is November twenty third. I'm Terry Stacy. This is
Danny Smith.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Good morning, and don't forget this. Smart little girls having
a birthday. You think you're hot, it's not.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
On my birthday weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You better ask ky happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Here.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It is beautiful. Oh, somebody's close my blind Wait is
it nice out It is? It's very nice.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm getting very shunning, especially compared to this morning being
all that foggy.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, but what a sunset last night. Oh my gosh,
it was one of the most beautiful, beautiful Indiana sun
since I've ever seen. I'm not lying. Let's look ahead, though,
because today again we're okay weatherwise for today at this moment.
Looking ahead to your Thanksgiving Day travel, it is going
to be cold. It is going to be cold on
Thanksgiving Day for your turkey egg hunting, you're going to
(01:57):
have to bundle up. It's going to be cold. On
Black Friday Day, after the day we light the lights
here on the Circle.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The high will be in the thirties. Now think about that.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It's going to feel really cold. So that's what's ahead.
But they should be nice, dry days and I think
maybe even some sunny days.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I heard some bad news this week. One of my
favorite weather casters is Jobastardi from the Nittany Lions, from
penn State. He said, it's going to be wet, lots
of snow and lots of cold. He's for the winter,
for the winter. And that's that's our area from Pennsylvania
over to Illinois.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But that's that's a that's a winter that's pretty average
for Indeed, that's you need to find a new guy.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And congratulations, he.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Could take over the farmer's dominac.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And congratulations to Brian Wilkes, who was weather Caster of
the Year.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Oh that's cool, that is cool. Wait to go, Brian, congratulations. Yeah,
well deserved box office Wicked, Wicked, Wicked, Wicked for good
smashing one hundred and fifty one million dollars plus in
the US two hundred and twenty eight million globally. It
is huge.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Say that's define gravity.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yea biggest debut ever for an ever for a Broadway adaptation,
and the third best among any music.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
All right, popular, Kylon, May you gotta be honest with me?
Does it have a happy ending?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I'm not gonna Denny, come on.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I don't like to go to movies that have bad endings.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You should go and find out a bad ending. I
think you're gonna like it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, we're you're depressed. You're thinking bring your tissues.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
It's not real life, yeah, Denny, come on, is not
real true story?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Green Witches are not real life true story.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Don't you see me flying out there too?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Everyone's in a lot, all right, you guys, We've got
a lot coming up in the next couple of hours.
We're glad you're here. I know. We will keep you
up to date on the news at the top and
the bottom of the hour, the top stories of the day.
But here on the first day, we kind of we
kind of skip around and we lighten it up a
little bit, you know, and we're gonna talk redistricting in
the next hour, but or is it coming up?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Next hour?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
We're gonna talk about that a little bit with a
local professor, and I think you'll find that an interesting conversation.
I know Ethan's gonna drop by and bring us something.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Mold.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh, I'm showing Show and Tell. First day, Show and Tell.
We'll talk a little bit about shopping. Retail sounds like
in some places gen z is bringing it back to life.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
How is Black Friday? Deals are already happening. It's not
a Black Fridy.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Day slamming together Black Friday? What is going on Cyber Monday?
They're all slammed together with one big sin.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
And before we take a break, I mentioned for your
turkey egg hunting on Thanksgiving Day. I wondered why we
I looked this up. I spent time doing it. Why
we don't eat turkey eggs? Because I bet they're delicious.
You know what, that's a really good question, because turkeys
only lay very few eggs a year, and there would
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cost a fortune. The price of them would cost a
fortune because they're so.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Even more than our eggs.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But if you found a wild turkey, and wild turkey
just laid an egg, I've never seen one. I'd like
to taste one.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I've had a duck egg omelet I've never had. They're
supposed to be ostri j Yeah, let's that are supposed
to be to die for. But that's a lot. That's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's a lot of those are very very expensive. But
some restaurants.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
But I've had ducks, but I've never had turkey. I've
never seen a turkey.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
They're there and people have had them before and they
say they're delicious if you get to have them. They
say they're creamier and they're they're they're bigger. But anyway,
there's turkeys just don't lay that many.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So I'd be curious how the nutrition.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Is compared.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Ticket perfect food.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And I think they are eats for every meal, everyone
every and sometimes I do. I love them. I've got
one sitting on the register in the office keeping warm
right now.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's not healthy.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Okay, we're gonna take a break coming up though, And
this is cool. Kylan has a really cool friend and
now I want her to be my friend too. She's
all over the city. She does all kinds of stuff.
November is Native American Heritage meth and we're going to
talk to Haley Jordan after the break. You're listening to
the first day on ninety three w IBC. Thanksgiving is
a time to really express our attitude and share time
(06:01):
with family and friends. But Native Americans perspectives also are
important to include when we talk about the history of
the first Thanksgiving, and also November is Native American Heritage Month.
You've got a very special guest with us.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Today, someone I am very grateful for as well. She
is also a woman in broadcasting does many things. Just
to name a few, she's a sideline reporter in MC
for India Night Before Volleyball team, MC for IU Men's Basketball,
MC for Indie Fueld Hockey, IU Men's Basketball, Indianapolis Indians.
There's so many things that she does. But she is
also a member of the Cherokee tribe with some Navajo
(06:35):
blood as well. Hailey Jordan joins us today to talk
a little bit about this. Hailey, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Thank you so much for having me and during such
a meaningful month too.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
I very much appreciate it. Happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Let's start with you giving us a little bit of
your family history.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
My dad is full blooded Native American. His name is
Daryl and he is from Tahaquah, Oklahoma. He grew up
in Indian Country out there, did not live on reservation,
but his native language is actually Cherokee. Unfortunately, he does
not remember any Cherokee because he grew up going to
predominantly English speaking schools, but he was immersed in the culture.
(07:13):
He went to school with lots of Native Americans and
so he was able to live in that culture ever
since he was young, and then when he met my
mom and moved to Indiana, that is when.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Not many natives.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I didn't go to school with that many natives when
I was born up through college really, and so I
in my adult life have really tried to learn more,
read more about who I am, about my culture, both
my Cherokee and Navojo heritage and as well as other
tribes too.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
But I am happy that I have my dad is kind.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Of my family historian to ask questions too as well.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You grew up and with your dad instilling that from
a very young age, what were some of those traditions
that you guys upheld through childhood and onward.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
One of my favorite traditions in my house and I
haven't seen this in a little while, but when I
was younger, my dad knows how to make custom dream
catchers that was a Native American tradition yet and they
would be.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
In our garage.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
And as a kid, I didn't learn about any of
this in school, so I didn't really know what a
dream catcher was or what all the traditional colors meant.
And to be honest, I'm not sure where my dad
learned how to make them. But I can imagine growing
up in Tahlequah. He picked up lots of skills from
lots of different natives during his early life there.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
But that is still to this day.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
One of my favorite things that I'm most proud of
to share about my dad is that he's able to
do so much to that native craftsmanship.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Well, even you are able to do that now too,
You've picked up skills like basket weaving.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
I worked for the Indianapolis Indians downtown and that team
works really closely with some tribes around Indianapolis, especially the
Miami Tribe, and they really work hard to include Native
American culture and include tribe men in the planning and
branding for some of the teams, and so they host
a Native American Heritage Night every single season.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
At the time, I was Miss Indiana, USA.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
And I was end seeing the game for Native American
Heritage Night, and I thought, this is just so perfect.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
I wanted to be here anyway. It just kind of
worked out.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
And I was walking through the concourse and they had
all of these Native artists and designers there and they
were they had a basket weaving booth set up and
I was like, oh my gosh, that looks awesome. Me
growing up in Indiana and just not being around too
many natives, I was like, this is so cool.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I'm getting to learn more.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
So I struck up a conversation with a woman named
Susan and I was like, this basket is incredible. I
want to learn how to make one. And she said, well,
you can come to my house and.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I'll teach you. And I was like, okay, so sid
and I.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
It turns out she only lives about five minutes from
my dad, and so I would go over there about
once a month and weave baskets with her and her husband.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I got to know her super well.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
And she even picked out a traditional Cherokee design for
me to learn to leave. So it took me over
a year to finish this basket, but it is proudly
sitting in my apartment now.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
So I'm super thankful for her guidance and for teaching
me how to do it.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That is so so cool. We're talking to Haley Jordan
and we're talking about Thanksgiving and the role of Native American.
It is Native American Heritage Month, and I'm told that
Thanksgiving is already a way of life for Native Americans
every day. Is that true?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
I would say so.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
We just have grown up with that mindset. I think
that coming from the Cherokee and Navajo tribe, I always
try to instill that toughness into my everyday life. I
would say that every Native has a factor of toughness
to them, but also this soft, compassionate, grateful side as well.
I love November and being around the table at Thanksgiving
(10:55):
because I truly feel just I don't know, almost like
the heart and souls of my ancest surrounding me.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
I know that it's really important to.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
My dad and tribes all over the nation. So I'm
just very grateful to be in the center of the
education and culture that Thanksgiving brings every year.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
You have gone through a lot of toughness, you had
mentioned earlier. Yes, you won Miss Indiana USA in twenty
twenty three, and you were the youngest Miss Indiana in
history crowned in twenty seventeen. On your pageant journey, you
also talked and advocated for your grief journey, whether it's
with your mom.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I did not know I was capable of getting through
something like that, and I know unfortunately I'm not the
only one that's had to walk through this, but my
mom passed away when I was twenty two. I was
currently at the time taking my finals for my last
semester at Indiana University, and she was in home hospice,
and so that's really where I saw that Native American
(11:51):
toughness coming through.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
My dad has always had it. I have seen him
grow up with it.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
He's an Army vet and fought in wars and overseas,
and I just I always said, my Dad's the toughest,
most strong person I've ever known, and I wish I
could be more like him.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Well, unfortunately, you.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Know, that got put to the test when I had
to navigate my grief journey and walk through all of that.
But the good news was I had an excellent example
of my true warrior and true hero, my dad, to
be able to help me and my brother walk through that.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I think that just.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Being Native and just having that strong toughness about us,
that quality, I mean, we have it in our hearts,
we have it in our minds, and that has been
super helpful and getting me.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Through this grief journey.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I'm just so thankful for my dad for him being
just such a stable presence in our lives and still
in a way treating us like adults.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
But also we can still be kids around him too.
Even though I'm twenty seven, He's been I mentally helpful
with my brother and I.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You know, it's interesting that this year's theme for Native
American Month is Tribal Nations, Sovereignty, trust and Resilience. Is
I think for me, the first time I was introduced
to Native Americans, it was the Thanksgiving story. That's what
I grew up learning and knowing. And then as I've
gotten older, we know that story has changed somewhat. And
(13:14):
so I'm wondering for you that Thanksgiving story, if it's
been told to you, probably different than what we me
as somebody that's older, learned as a kid. Did you
learn that same Thanksgiving story or was your story a
little different?
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I learned the same one that you probably did. I
remember my earliest memory of learning about Native American history
was actually in kindergarten and each class, one class would dress.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Up as pol girls, one is Natives. I don't know
if that would be you know, super politically correct and
stay climate. But as kiddos, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
We're learning and I think that was the teacher's best
way of kind of giving us a real world example
of what essentially happened. And so that's what I grew
up learning, but it didn't really go beyond that. Maybe
everyone once in a while we would read about the
history in our history textbooks back when textbooks were things.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
I'm a teacher now and they are not.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
But other than that, I've really had to do my
own research and read up on tribal history myself because
it's not a super big history unit going throughout school
or even college as well.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Your dad ever told a different story growing up in
the Cherokee tribe.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
He was not, to my knowledge.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
He grew up so his mom was Cherokee and then
his dad was full blood in Napajo, so he had
two different tribal roots that he grew up with. But
to my knowledge, no, he never got a different story either,
even being surrounded by lots more Native American culture than
what my brother and I did as.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Kids for Thanksgiving. For your Thanksgiving feast, are there any
Native traditions of traditional foods that come to the table.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
We do not do any traditional foods in Indiana. But
if you were to ask that to my Tahlequah, Oklahoma family.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
They the full spread.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
They have got a lot of delicious fried foods, and
unfortunately I have not been able to try their fried.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Foods in a while.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
We have not been to Oklahoma in some time, but
I just remember that being such a big part of
not just their Thanksgiving plates, but every weekend they have
some sort of traditional dish with.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It being Native American Heritage Month. What's a tradition that
you are interested in and maybe going to learn about more.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I wouldn't maybe call it a tradition, but more so
of a component of a lifestyle that I would really
like to be involved in. Is Native American pow wows.
They have them all over for various tribes, and I
have seen them, but I have just not.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Been able to get off work to go travel to.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
One of them.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
But that is my ultimate goal and on my.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Bucket list is to be able to attend and learn.
That is where you're going to find the rich Native
American culture, the music, the traditional outfits that they wear,
the languages, the instruments.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
That is where you can get.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
All of the culture in one setting, surrounded by other natives.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Hailey Jordan is there anything else you want our audience
to know before we let you go about Native American
Heritage Month and the Thanksgiving holiday.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
I would just.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Tell everybody, especially those who are interested in history, to
find some sort of Native American literature to just dive into,
even movies out there that more accurately depicts the Native
American holidays, Indigenous People's Day, Native American Heritage Month.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
But that way we can all be.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
More informed and support all Native tribes and our Native
friends too.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
We thank you so much, wishing you a happy Thanksgiving.
Please come back and see us.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Thank you you guys to appreciate you having me on
and sharing a piece of my heart today.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
She's terrific. She's a terrific young lady. Eleven eight guys
coming up. So Netflix opened its first permanent IRL location
Kylnitson Eye in real life and Simon Mall near Philadelphia.
And this exhibit includes like Bridgerton balls and a money
heist escape room. I know it. And here in the Indianapolis,
(17:11):
we love our malls right, We've got Black Friday coming
up and the shopping that we used to go to
the malls and be there at midnight for the sales
and doors to open, but they have kind of them,
but well they've kind of asually. We know they're struggling.
Washington Squares for sale. We just heard this past week
Circle Center told its tenants you got to get out,
get out here at ye, get out of here and
(17:34):
so anyway, but according to retail bound dot Com and others,
gen Z is flocking back to the mall. So Johann
Jacob from retail Bound, he's going to join us next
to tell us more about this story. The news is
coming up ninety three WIBC ninety three WIBC and Network
Indiana Black Friday Shopping. I remember buying everything at the
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shopping mall, Washington Square, Castles and Square. I loved it.
Fantastic atmosphere, crazy at times, always fun, and then things changed.
But malls are apparently making a comeback, appealing to gen Z.
There's a story this week that Netflix House is bringing
people to the mall by opening large scale immersive entertainment
(18:15):
venues inside former department stores. And here to talk about
all of this is Johann Jacob, retail channel management consultant
with retail Bound retail bound dot Com. Hello, Johann, how.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Are you good tail for yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
We're good. We've been hearing that malls are making a
comeback from your perspective. Is this just a story or
is this a real true thing that gen Z is
loving the malls.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's a real true thing, Terry. I mean, if you
want real experiences anymore in the last four or five
years is the COVID we've all been behind the screens, right,
So if you want to get out, don't be entertained. Right.
They want to touch and feel things that those screens
can't replicay, So yes, mall here here to stay.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
By the way, Terry, this is maybe a shift in
shopping behind if you're here something different.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Well, you mentioned before about the next generation, right gen Z, right,
that demographic. They want to be more social than us. Oh,
if you want to fifties, right, So malts have become
are more social nations that it plays to gather or
die or even friends and family. Right. So you can
ice skate the mall, you can boil the mall, you
can play shopping and dining. Right. So malls have become
(19:23):
more bases in places than just to go buy a
pair of pants or a TV.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
By the way, Johan, do you think that this is
a nationwide trend or is the mall revival kind of
concentrated in certain regions or types of markets.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
That's a great question. I think it's depending on the
on the demographic. I think it's the nationwide industry. I
think I've gone a lot of interests from various brands
that want to do pop up stores and malls versus
New York or Chicago or LA. Right, it depends on location,
but it seems it's a nationwide event.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
By the way, here in Indianapolis, a couple of our
malls have really struggled, and one in particulars for sale.
Those that are that own these malls, they've got to
come up with a different way to appeal to gen
z right.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
That's correct. By the way. Now, before I started Redebound,
whether reda bar for a mall based brand called Seers,
they had hundreds of stores, right, it was a thousand
stores and major malls across the United States. I'll the
time to change mall owners right for how to appeople
back in the store. Right. COVID, by the way, in
twenty twenty cause retailers to find ways to make it
(20:29):
easier shop like buy online, pick food, store, right, they
enhance their they're both their e commerce and their mobile
shopping now in the mall base La mall owners are
trying it like mobile apps help you navigate through parking
and rewards, you know. So yes, mall owners are trying
to find ways get the Generation z R other generations
back in the mall to not just to dine and
(20:52):
to play, but also shop as well.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Are there particular categories whether that's fashion or beauty or
entertainment or dining. Do you see which categor goryes maybe
are benefiting the most from Gen Z foot traffic.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeh, that's hard to say, you know, being the Jesus
rather than my kids. Now they're going to the mall
to you know, hang out, you may do dying or
do is we a movie? And by the way, well
i'm there, I'm gonna go go go to a sort
of shop. You know which comes first? Chicken the heck? Right,
if you're going to the mall to shop and then
go out to eat or to play, go go balling
or they go in too modigle bawling and play an
(21:26):
arque and then go shop. But regardless, the Mali came
to all types of people. All agents, all demographics. So
it's good to see the multi climb back now they
was because years ago Lah doing gloom.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
The Johann Jacob is with US retail channel Management consultant.
He's with retail Bound retail bound dot com. I want
to ask about maybe what malls need to do to
still stay relevant over the next five to ten years.
Do you think about that, well, how they need to
sustain themselves.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Yeah. I think a lot of the bigger mall owners
like Simon and Westfield ye to survey their customers, not
just their retailers who leave space to them, but also
the end customer. Se what do they want. They want
you know, concierge, they want better ways to park, eat safety,
things like that. Right, So I think, you know, mall
(22:16):
owners to continue to listen to both their tenants and
their customers as many as they want they keep coming back.
I was interested a little fun fact, so when I
US seers eons ago, you know, we did a little
study on malls thirty years ago, people lived three miles,
six miles and twelve miles from the mall were very
loyal to them all right, fast forward till I say,
(22:38):
maybe fift years ago, people lived three miles from the mall,
We're still very loyal. People live six miles or tall
miles were as loyal, but they had more options off
the mall, like a best Buy, a Polls so way mall,
we're trying to drank it people back to them all
who lived six miles and twelve miles because we lived
three months of the all are just as well they
were a couple years ago. Terry.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
By the way, what advice do you give those emerging
brands that really want to leverage malls to reach gen
z and maybe even some people like me that are
a little older and.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Our clients make innovative products, right, they're not you know,
they're they're not like you're me to iPhone cases or
water biles, right. So they're always trying to find ways
to drive people into the stores. Right, and so we're doing,
uh a pop up or a kiosk or even an
event to drive to get excitement. But you know, you know,
look like Apple and Tuesla, they've done it for years,
(23:30):
trying people to the mall if you're in line to
get the new iPhone seventeen, right, So I think for
for brands that want to you know uh uh test
new products in new markets. It's a great way to
jump in and get get your feet wet. By the way.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, and well, in that story that I mentioned about
Netflix House bringing people to the mall by opening these
large scale, immersive entertainment venues inside those former department stores,
they're saying, Okay, we believe in the mall. They're making
this investment too.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, a lot of communities that, like you said, are
more distressed areas that every how can we get it back? Right?
So you know, maybe it's a it's more than a
strictional shopping center. It's more of a community anchor to
combines like retail, a co working, health services. I remember
a couple years ago as a consultant, we were asked us, hey,
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Spens Retart, they have some some space in the mall
here in Chicago, couple of malls in Chicago. They wanted
to help us design the space to be half co
working in the back and then the front of the
store is stuff that you were actually making in the back. Right,
It's almost like a company said retail slash co working space.
That was kind of cool. By the way, right, here's
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fourteen dollars square feet in the mall, a former support
authority store and this this guy wanted to take that
store and the parson of where Patwistow was co working
for young entrepreneurs. And then the front of the store
was the artists actually sell the products. I know, while
on the malls we isly kind of co concert. Hopefully
someday come with the idea, get it with some funding
(25:02):
behind it.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, for sure. Johann Jacob is his name. Retail Channel
Management consultants with retail Bound retail bound dot com dot com.
And this story, which is interesting that gen Z is
trying the rest to keep the malls alive. Thank you
so much for giving us your time. Happy holidays to
you and your family and friends, and thanks for giving
us some of your insight. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Likewise, Errie, it's.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Eleven forty two. I missed the mall. I miss going
to the mall at the holiday season. Not that we
couldn't here, but on my like on my side of town,
it was a tradition, girl, He's a tradition.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You get done with your Thanksgiving meal, you hang out,
maybe take a little food, coma app and then you
wake up at midnight and go to the malls.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
We just going to the mall to look at girls
and that was it well on Thanksgiving shopping back then.
But we did like it that girls were shopping. We
could find them there.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It was so fun kylon back in the olden days
when honestly, when you were done with the meal and
you'd wait until midnight, you'd go down to Edinburgh and
you'd go to the hit the outlet mall where you
could save so much money. It was just a fun
tradition for so many families. Everybody get in the car
and go really cool. All right, So coming up another tradition.
It is Thanksgiving week, lots of traditions. And Denny Smith
(26:15):
is going to help you save money by not help, She'll.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Just call it. It's the Plumber's super Bowl coming.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Up there you go, that's next ninety three WIBC. Yeah,
you've got a brand and Denny Hey, Denny Paul, Happy Thanksgiving,
buddy boy.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I think it's time for you to sing for us.
Can you do that instead?
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Sure, you're all together again. We're here, we're here. We're
all together again. We're here, we're here, and who knows
when we'll be all together again? Singing all together again,
We're here's how about that?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's a perfect Thanksgiving song.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's a song that we learned in boy Scouts, but
I tried to find and where it got started. Got
started in the eighteen hundreds as camp songs, and the
Church of Latter day Saints picked it up and put
it in their songbook.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You're such a beautiful voice. She sounded a little like being.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Crossbas Oh hey, well.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Hey, I mean real quick.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Being War two pay. I guess I can look forward
to that too.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
So the history of this song, it's a perfect song
I think for Thanksgiving it is. And it was a
children's songbooks and stuff, right, I mean, it was a song,
a mini.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
No And then it was picked up right around World
War One because a lot of the kids that had
gone to camp ended up being soldiers, and so you know,
you can imagine them sitting around knowing they're going to battle,
and somebody pipes up with that song, and you could
just see all the soldiers saying, hey, I know that song.
I learned that when I was in the woods and
all that I love. And so the legend is, and
(27:47):
I haven't been able to prove that or find any
real substantiation to it was that, you know, the soldiers
going off to war, they didn't know where they were
coming back. And so we're all together again, and who
knows when we're going to be all together again? And
then you think about Thanksgiving. I mean, here you are,
You've got families, You've got in laws and outlaws and
all together again. I know, I was thinking about Kylin.
(28:07):
Kylin's got people scattered to the four winds, and I
don't know what she's going to do for the Fast.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I don't even know what I'm going to do for Thanksgiving.
Yes see, I don't know how you guys do it well,
your tradition away, I know, I know, isn't that how
it goes.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I'm sort of off the hook this year because the
grandkids are both getting their wisdom teeth taken out on
Wednesday before Thanksgiving, so I don't think that's going to happen.
But think about this. We are all together and it
normally involves food, a little bit of melancholy, a little bit,
but you remember this, you know, the whole reminiscing thing.
So Thanksgiving can be a fun, fun time, but it's
also one of the few times when we get the
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whole families together where it's not a funeral or a
birth or a death or something.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And then we've got we've got this great day following Thanksgiving,
which is our Black Friday, and all together again for
the lighting of the tree here on the circle Circle
of lights. But yeah, you call it the Super Bowl plumbers.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, on the day after it's for a variety of reasons.
Traditionally people I call it my Aunt Terry and Uncle Sullivan.
Those are my two characters. Okay, so a garbage disposal
is not a blender. So when people come in, one
of the things they do is that there's two different
types of people. There are people who shove everything in
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and then turn on the switch, and then there are
the people that just think it's a you know, it
is a just behave as if you are on the
International Space Station. Anything that goes in there has to
go someplace, and so behave like that. I mean, people
shove everything in there and then they throw the switch.
Here's the right way to use a garbage dispose.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Are you ready to carry and tell us things we
should not be putting in the garbage disposal?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
All right?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Well, the first thing you do is you start the
cold water. Let the cold water go, not hota.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
See that's the ant Harry and Terry thinks I'm gonna
it'll flush all you know what you do, or you're
creating glue about twenty foot down the pipe when it
all cools down.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Never use hot water.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Anybody, those of you watching us on did you know
on YouTube?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Don't use hot water. Start the cold water, then turn
on the disposer, and then feed small amounts into it. Now,
for those of us who are over the age of eighty,
and that is not I I'm not over eighty, but
I remember the first garbage disposals were called batch feed,
where you you just put everything in there and then
you put the little stopper down and you turn the
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switch and then ran the water. That was called batch feed.
So if you're over the age of eighty, I forgive
you for not using it knowing how to use what
we call continuous feed. The continuous feed is turn on
the cold water, turn on the disposer, and feed small
amounts in. Don't jam it up like Uncle Sullivan does.
Uncle Sullivan's subs he puts everything in there as if
it's just gonna and it does, yeah, and so then
(30:59):
it clogs it up, and then you you got a
real mess. It's a three hundred dollars bill anyway you
look at it.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So you there's still there's things that you think are
okay to put down in the garbage disposal, and you
say not, there's not.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well, there's several. The first thing is don't put potato
skins in there.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
For the traditional he says, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
No, don't do it. They they create such a hazard.
They become glue. Okay, everything that's in a potato skin
becomes glue down down the pipe. All right, don't put grease, Terry.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You heat it up and you think it's going to coagulate.
You know better grease stringy vegetables. You don't want stringy
vegetables like celery. You know Aunt Terry's famous cauliflower cranberry salad.
Don't put that down the disposer. Okay, yeah, bones. Everybody
thinks that bones are going to disintegrate in just a second.
(31:52):
I'll tell you how a garbage disposal works. But don't
they think it cleans the blades horse crocky. It doesn't
clean the braids. If anything can could break the little
hammers that are down there. Okay, rice and pasta. Don't
put rice in pasta.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I have heard that one.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I haven't heard that one.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, because it expands, it absorbs the water, and it'll
cause your.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Apartment will find you if they find rice in disposal one.
It's broken.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Rice is just this little tiny bitty things.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
But they absorb water and they expand, and they expanded
the wrong part of the drainage system. And the last
one is pipe always remain No. Now we're getting into
washed capacity. Now you do know I'm a master plumber
since nineteen seventy one. We depend on the wash capacity
of the pipe to be about forty to sixty percent. Okay,
that means that the pipe is half full. If you
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use something that expands, like rice or pasta, then it
blurts that out and it's it's it's not good. So anyway,
here's the classic Thanksgiving scenario. You're ready, ready, Aunt Terry
scrapes every plate in the sink. Uncle Sullivan flips the switch.
The disposal groans, lights flicker. You hear noises usually reserved
for snowblowers hitting rocks, and then there's complete silence. Congratulations,
(33:06):
you've just earned a three hundred dollars holiday price service
call from your favorite it's probably every bit of three
hundred because it's first of all, it's overtime because of
the weekend, and then they got to get out the machine,
and then they've got to clean it up.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Can I pay you two fifty in a Thanksgiving plate
to come fix mine when it happens?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You know better?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Okay, okay, yeah, I never I grew up without a
garbage disposal. I hate using it. I get terrified turning
it on.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I hat I remember when we used to throw garbage
into the pails, and I remember in the summertime where
the maggots would come and everything. So the garbage disposal
really is a great human device. But once again, I'm
gonna test you both. What's the first thing you do
with your garbage disposal? Water cold water, Tyland gets it.
Number two, don't put any of that other stuff in there.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Number two, You got to turn on the display.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Turn right, but always always with water, always with always
whenever you turn it on, the water and needs.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And what's number three?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Don't put that stuff down in there's.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Small amounts feed it in gradually, all right, and then
we don't want to use potato skins, grease all that
other stuff or noodles.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
The fourth thing, what is it that we do call
the plumber? No, we leave the water running. Even after
you think it's all down. We want to wash it
way down to the bigger pipes where it can pick
up water from the toilets and water from the washing machine.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So keep it running.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yes, we want to keep it running.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Do you do you keep the garbage disposal running or
the water running? Do you keep both of them?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I normally do both of them.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Well, it hurt it if it's running too long after.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
No, Well, if it does, it might go off on
a thermal reset. But there's a reset button on the bottom. Okay,
So remember treat your garbage disposal with respect. If not,
your plumber's going to see you on Blackwater Friday. And
always remember if your sink backs up, it's Uncle Sullivan's
for it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Your favorite Thanksgiving tradition.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
There you go, Well your foot is it?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Danny Paul?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I just think being with Mackie, you know we started
off the two of us. That's probably how.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Many Thanksgiving givings.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Have you shared fifty five? How about that?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
And it doesn't matter what type of garbage disposal you have.
Follow these rules cold water, turn it on, feed it
in gradually, let it run for another ten to twenty seconds,
and then you're in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
And now go enjoy your Thanksgiving food thinking about your blackwater.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Denny, thank you, thanks for doing this for us. We
appreciate it. We've got another hour left. Thanks for joining
us here on first day. The news is next
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