April 26, 2025 • 59 mins
On the final day of the 2025 NFL Draft, hear from Browns Director of Player Personnel Dan Saganey, RB Dylan Sampson, RB Quinshon Judkins, TE Harold Fannin Jr., LB Carson Schwesinger, GM/EVP Andrew Berry, HC Kevin Stefanski, and QB Shedeur Sanders.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to another NFL Draft edition of the From the
Podium podcast. I'm Gabe Klea. Today was the final day
of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, and the Browns
wrapped things up by selecting Dylan Sampson, a running back
out of Tennessee, in the fourth round, and Shadoor Sanders,
Colorado quarterback in round five. On this episode, you'll hear
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from Director of Player Personnel Dan Sagany, running back Dylan Samson,
linebacker Carson Swessinger, tight end Harold Fannin, junior running back
quin Shawn Judkins, general manager Andrew Berry, head coach Kevin Stefanski,
and quarterback Shadoor Sanders. We start with Director of Player
Personnel Dan Sagany, who discussed how Dylan Sampson's running style
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can compliment that of quin Sewn Judkins.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, I would just I.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Would start by saying, we're really excited to add Dylan
to the group. Obviously, with Quin Shawn, both like explosive runners.
You know, Dylan was SEC Player of the Year, very
productive player in both phases. Brings like a good complimentary
skill set with q you know, both guys have had high,
high levels of production in the sec you got. You know,
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both guys have really good speed, run with toughness, and
have pass game value. So anytime we can add two
backs to can play on all three downs, we're excited.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
So Dan, just knowing that production with Dylan specifically, like,
were you guys surprised he was still available to you
at this.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Point in the draft?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
And I know everyone always talks about value on day three,
So was there just immense value there with his production
coupled where you guys were picking.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I think we talk about it every year and here,
like day three, everybody's board is so different. So for us,
it's the opportunity to take you know, a really productive
player that we liked through the process.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We were able to spend some good time with him at.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The combine and just you know, feel really good about
the production mixed with the person. He's what you know,
we describe as an orange dot type of player in person.
So anytime you get an old you know, a really productive,
complimentary player to your offense at the right price, which
you know was a great value for us here, pretty
excited to at him and just take him off the
board and put him in the room and get ready
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to go.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So the you it would be pretty durable. Yeah, I
certainly hope. So he's a yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I mean, anytime you're winning SEC Offensive Player of the
Year with that volume in production, you know, I think
it says a lot about how you take care of
your body and.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know how durable you are as a player.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
So yeah, he would be, you know, a developmental returner
for us. He's a guy that you know, when you
have multiple backs and guys that have return experience in
the room between our receiver room, our running back room
with Jerome, you know, there's plenty of, plenty of options there.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So you know, the new kickoff rule is.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You know, an evolving thing, and I think it's you know,
a good question, you know for Bubba and our staff,
how we once we get everybody into the building, you know,
see how guys do field and ball. And he certainly
has the speed and toughness to run and you know,
be a productive NFL.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Returner Dan Harold Fannon new to the position, but crazy
productive at the college level. So what do you see
in him now versus what you might see in two
or three years with.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Fan oh Man.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I mean, I know we talked about him last night.
Obviously really good fit for the offense. Elite hands, and
you know, for an offense that you know values tight
end play, especially having multiple tight ends that can do
a lot of different things. A guy that can get
open and catch the ball obviously at record breaking pace
like he did, and then run after the catch. You know,
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anytime you can pair that with a guy like David
longer term, you know, you just you have two options
that are real pass game weapons and you know, provide
a lot of value to the offense as you go.
So allows us to play how we want to play too.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Offense line would seem to just based on what you
guys currently have and where guys are in their career
and contracts and things like that. How I guess you know,
how hard has it been to not draft for a
position of like need when it comes to the offensive line,
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and then also to how do you balance that with,
you know, with some of these other picks that you've made,
like you know, taking Gabriel there at the end of
the third round.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, I mean I'll start by saying this, I think
we feel really good about where we're at with our
offensive line group right now. You know, we obviously have
a lot of experienced veterans in our in our our
call it frontline starters right now, and then behind them
we have good depth we're able to add you know,
Jenkins who's played guard, played tackle. You know, we feel
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really good about Zack Sindri's development, and a bunch of
the young guys in that room. As far as you know,
how we pair together the draft and piecing together picks,
it really just becomes, you know, best available guy, that's
the best fit we think long term.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And we still got a couple of picks left.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
There's a few offensive linemen the left that you know,
I'm sure we'd love to add if the opportunity comes,
you know, but really, when you're when you're piecing together
everything in the draft, we're looking for the best value,
best players, best cultural fit, guys that fit how we
want to play on both sides of the ball, and
you know it goes across multiple positions.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
So Dylan, you mentioned some of that development. What are
some of the attributes that he has that you are
maybe looking to get the most out of when he
gets in here and starts working with the organization.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, Dylan is a guy that I think is just
such a natural.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
He is such a natural feel for.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
The game as a quarterback. His ability to navigate the pocket,
his ability to escape pressure, to throw at anticipation, touch, accuracy,
he's really just like how I would describe as a
very natural quarterback. So he's done it across multiple levels
of competition at three different schools, stepped in and you know,
showing the ability to win and be ultra productive at
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the position. And you know, he's a guy that can
play in a shotgun RPO system. He you know, we
think he has good value with a lot of the
things that we do offensively. And again, when you when
you piece together, you know the person and just how
they play the position, the accuracy and the field. You know,
you feel really good about that translating and developing further
once you get him in the building.
Speaker 9 (06:24):
So, with the depth of this running back class, did
you guys go in thinking or knowing that you would
take two?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Honestly, I don't think it was a plan or like
something that you're saying, hey, we need two backside of
this draft, Like, we feel good with the guys that
are here to Again, we're trying to add, you know,
the best competition we can. You know, Obviously CU's a
really good player, Dylan's going to be a really good player.
So you're just you're excited to add high level talent
when you think you can get it. And then you know,
when we're in day three and everybody's board, you know,
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kind of goes all over the place in the league.
If a guy's sitting there and you're excited to take him.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You just turn the card in and get ready to go.
Speaker 9 (07:01):
How different do you think their styles are Q and Dylan?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's a good question.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I don't want to pin like a certain style on
either guy because I think, I mean, you know, both
guys have been super productive rushers, you know, both in
the sec from one Q is at at old Miss.
But you know, I think like when you pair the
two of them together, you have two fast guys that
run hard, run with energy. Both guys are kind of
what I would describe as like energy energizer bunny type
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of runners, but also have power and three down value,
so they can help you in both phases and really, like,
you know, both guys have really natural you know, vision, strength, acceleration, speed,
everything that we look for in a back in our system.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So should pair well together.
Speaker 10 (07:46):
Kind of kind of along that line. As you build
a roster. I'm thinking back to, like, you know, when
you guys had Nick and Kareem together for so long,
how important is it to have like two starting caliber
backs on your roster.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I think it's huge in the NFL. And these
you know, this day and age.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know, obviously those are two two elite guys right there,
and you know we're hoping, you know, to get that
level of production out of these guys.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It's something that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You know, you hope anytime you draft a player they
can be as productive, you know, as they prove to
be in college. But yeah, I mean having two backs
is extremely important. It's you know, a position where we
obviously value running the football in our organization. And again,
guys that have speed, toughness, you know, run with vision
and instincts. Anytime you get two year excited and you know,
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don't have to have one guy totally carry the load.
You can keep people fresh and wear people down over
the course of the game.
Speaker 11 (08:39):
So with you guys finishing tied for second last in
the NFL last year with only eight rushing touchdowns, how
much did you need that infusion of the running game
and how much do you think that a bolstered and
rejuvenated running game is going to help whoever's starting at quarterback,
your defense, and everything else about this football team.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, that's a great question. I think it naturally.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Does you know, the ability to run the football in
when you're a yard or two away helps I mean,
you know, we had Kareem man Nick, We're you know,
very fortunate to have two high level NFL backs here
for a long time. And you know, Judkins has proven
to be super productive in that area.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
He's got good power behind him.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And then with Dylan, same thing, has speed, as has
touchdown production. We're always looking for guys that can score
the touchdown at any or score touchdowns at any offensive position.
These guys both have proven that against the highest level
competition in the country.
Speaker 12 (09:34):
So I was going to ask you about your number
one option as a short yardage back would probably be
Judkins at this point, right answer, I would let.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Kevin answer that one, honestly, Like both guys, Like that's
the good thing about both players in my opinion, is
they both have like power behind you know, behind their pads,
and both guys have that element of speed. Judkins is
a little bit bigger, So I think that would kind
of be the natural thought process there. But ultimately, you know,
in our system of your ability to put the foot,
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put your foot in the ground and get up the field,
that one yard burst of acceleration matters.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
As much as being two hundred and twenty pounds too.
Speaker 12 (10:13):
And the room's getting crowded and Chubb's still out there.
So we asked yesterday with Judkins the draft would be
for Chubb's future.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
So I'm gonna ask it.
Speaker 12 (10:23):
Two backs, What does that mean for Chub's future here?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I mean, obviously I would defer those those questions to
Andrew and Kevin. Ultimately, we're we're really excited to add
two young backs. And again, you know, to the questions earlier,
it's a position where, hey, we knew we needed an
infusion in that room in general, regardless of the vets
that are available on the street. You know, with Nick,
with the guys in the room, it's, hey, we're gonna
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add add some talented players when we get an opportunity
to do it up.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Next is running back Dylan Sampson, who discussed his one
cut running style.
Speaker 11 (10:55):
And pairing with quin Shawn Judkins and what do you
think you guys can do to get other in the
backfield for this team.
Speaker 13 (11:03):
Sorry, it's a little low.
Speaker 14 (11:04):
Can you say it again.
Speaker 11 (11:05):
Yeah, I'm just wondering how you feel about coming in
here and pairing with Quinn Shawn Judkins and what you
guys can do as far as a one two punch
in the backfield here.
Speaker 14 (11:16):
Yeah, man, it's a blessing.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You know.
Speaker 15 (11:18):
I think if you look at the NFL right now,
it's kind of like the platform. You know, you see
God like Montgomery and Gibbs, you know in the past,
Alvin Kamara and Mark Een.
Speaker 14 (11:29):
You know, I think it works best when you have
guys who compliment each other and you know, push each
other to be the best.
Speaker 10 (11:36):
Hey, Dylan, I saw somewhere that Reggie Bush was one
of your idols or somebody that you tried to emulate.
What what was it about his game that you loved,
just like the.
Speaker 14 (11:46):
Hot electric key was, you know with the ball out
in space, you know, whether you're catching the ball or
running the ball. You know, he just had that duthe
and you know that energy that you know kind of
like it fed into the game and wanted you really
wanted to see him with ball in your fans, so
you know, you try to implement some of that in
my game.
Speaker 16 (12:05):
Hey Dylan, Obviously the last several years, you know, Nick
Chubb has been sort of a staple for the Browns one.
How much have you over your you know, kind of
watched Nick and how much do you you know, kind
of take from his game in two But the thought
of maybe you and Quincheane kind of being the next
the era of the air of appearance to him with
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this franchise.
Speaker 14 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, oh, definitely watch Nick Schubb over the years.
You know, he's a different type of runner than me,
but just the violence he plays with, you know, when
he's healthy, you know, one of the best backs in
the league when you have you know, and definitely a
staple in that program. But I just try to watch
god similar to my play style, similar to my body type,
you know, because it's just more realistic to me.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Hey Dylan, you're gonna get in here in just a
couple of weeks and start working rookie mini camps. So
for you, what are some of the areas of the
game you're looking to show off to the Browns organization
once you're at work, and what are maybe some of
the areas that you're looking to get to work on
early as a Brown.
Speaker 14 (13:08):
Yeah, so you know, just looking you know, to come
in and show them, you know, how quick I could
you know, take in the offense and learn to play
my ability to practice information and you know, play out
in space as well as in between the tackles, and
and just looking to improve in the small details of
my game. Uh what that pass pro you know, get
the physical aspect of it, you know, just being able
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to be a three down back.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know.
Speaker 17 (13:34):
Hey, Dylan, congratulations playing in the SEC obviously considered generally
the best conference in college football. Just how do you think, uh,
the opponents you've played over the years and especially this
past year and then the success that you have has
prepared you for the NFL.
Speaker 14 (13:51):
Yeah, you know, if you I'll talk about just practice,
you know, we talking about practice, you know, going against
guys like y'all James Pierce, you know a lot of
the good D line, and we had it prepared me
for each and every single game, you know, because I
mean those are both guys you know who one just
got drafted in the first round and the other one
for the thing you know, raand but it's competition every
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single day of practice. So and then I get to
play against you know, guys like Dayalen Walker and uh,
you know, just a lot of other guys. So it
prepared me the most and the most competition. And it's
definitely roughed in between those types in the SEC. So
you know, I'm ready to experience on the next level.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Hey don't first, did you know quin Shine from your
days together in the SEC? He said, what did you
know Quin Shane like off the field personally just from
having been together in the SEC.
Speaker 14 (14:44):
Yeah, Nah, I didn't. I never talked to him I
was in the SEC, but you know I definitely knew
loved him, you know, because he definitely jumped onto the
scene and started doing the theme, but didn't have a
relationship with him.
Speaker 9 (14:55):
And when you talk about your play style, how would
you describe that.
Speaker 14 (15:00):
I'll just say, you know, I played with a certain
type of tenacity and violence, but you know it's also
kind of you know, calm and control at the same time.
I feel like I'm not a flasky runner. I don't
do a lot of moves, but my contact ballance shows,
you know, my moved out in space show and my
you know, my ability and my vision and my feed
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show up on tape, so you know, I'm just looking to,
you know, put everything together.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Up next, it was the day two picks Carson Sweessinger,
Harold fannin Junior and quin Shawn Judkins, who made their
first visit to the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Borea.
Speaker 11 (15:34):
Well, my question is going to be for you, quin Schewn.
The Browns just also drafted another running back in Dylan Samson.
Can you just talk about what kind of one two
punch you guys might for him? And how excited are
you to work with Dylan?
Speaker 18 (15:48):
Definitely super excited coming from a backfield where it's been
another one two punch dot come from.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Uh, you look forward to that, especially.
Speaker 18 (15:55):
As a team player, you know, whatever it takes to
win and playing alongside other great players think that helps.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Punch on, I have another one for you. You know,
there's this perception for a long time here that Buckeyes
weren't typically drafted by the Cleveland Browns, and now that's
kind of changed. Dewan Denzel Award here, Luke Whippler for you,
how does it feel to be among one of the
now many Buckeyes on the Browns feels great.
Speaker 18 (16:20):
I got to see Denzel when I first got in
the building earlier, and just that feeling of being a
buck Eye and getting the feeling to just stay home
and you don't have to go out of state anywhere else,
and just getting to keep making my mark here in
the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's important.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
This questions for Carson. I know I asked you a
little bit about this yesterday, but the chip on your
shoulder aspect of how you play and everything, like, how
are you looking forward to bringing that here and bringing
that energy and how much does it inform your style
of play?
Speaker 19 (16:50):
Yeah, I think that's a big part of my style
of play. I think, even going back to youth ball,
I've had the chip on my shoulder where when I
step on the field, I want to be somebody making plays.
And you know that's that's an energy you bring in,
a toughness and and I'm looking forward to being able
to compete every day.
Speaker 16 (17:09):
The one herold to be left out of the out
of the un just I mean being you know, being
kind of the hometown team here, you know, growing up
in Canton and everything. Just what has this been like
since you know, we obviously told you last night. But
since then to now, what has it been like in
terms of the number of people you know, in Canton
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and elsewhere in the area who have kind of reached
out to you congratulated. What's that all been like for you?
Speaker 20 (17:37):
It's definitely been like a big blessing. You know, especially
growing up close to here. You know the family, you
know they're always going to show they love support going crazy,
but I mean just really is just a blessing. You know,
my family, they're my big support staff, so you know,
they always gonna keep supporting me.
Speaker 21 (17:56):
Hey, Kyson, this for you bio bioengineering, right, what talk
about that?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
And what do you want to do and how'd you pick.
Speaker 21 (18:04):
That as your major?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Well, what I want.
Speaker 19 (18:07):
To do is play football, so right now that's kind
of on the back burner. But I just kind of
chose it. I grew up science and math, was good
at and enjoyed it, and you know, starting as a
walk on, you never know what the past is going
to be, so you want to make the degree worth it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And I felt that was a good.
Speaker 19 (18:22):
Decision heading heading into UCLA, which was a great school
already academically, and so that that was really what was
behind that decision. I think for me what I always
found interesting. A lot of the new biotechnology and things
like that were really interesting. And you know, my mind,
I've always grown up around sports, especially football, So anytime
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I'm in classes and they're talking about the new technology
coming out and certain healthcare fields or things like that,
my mind just goes straight to sports and how it
can help in sports science and things like that. So
I think that could always be an interesting route.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Harold, this is for you.
Speaker 22 (18:58):
Did David and Joku reach out to you at all
when you got the news that you were draft and
if he did, what did he say?
Speaker 20 (19:06):
I mean, I don't know. You know a lot of
people have been calling me. I mean, I have to
keep checking, but I'll let you know if he does.
Speaker 22 (19:13):
Evan said that you had a pretty special lunch at
BG here. You said that you have a pretty interesting
story to tell about that. So yeah, could you tell
us a little bit more about that?
Speaker 20 (19:25):
Yes, yeah, pretty much called me and asked where you
want to go. I just wanted to keep it somewhere close,
you know, didn't want to go out the go out
the town or anything, so I said, Frickers. And you
know when he called me on draft night. He said,
make sure you bring us off some freckers.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Another one for Harold Kevin Stefanski loves tight ends. So
how excited are you to be brought into a program
with a head coach that really paid places a premium
in value on your position as far as incorporating you
within the office sense?
Speaker 20 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean I'm very excited to play, you know,
especially for a guy like that, Like you said, he's
big on tight end, so you know he's gonna be
able to, you know, work me around, be able to
play me to my strengths and things like that.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
One more for you.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I know, Andrew Berry when you talked to us yesterday,
referred to you as like the queen on the chessboard
that they feel like they can move you around through
a bunch of different spots. I know you talked a
little bit about your versatility with us on the phone,
but just hearing that from the GM of the team
that just drafted you, what's it like to have them
instill that confidence in you right now?
Speaker 20 (20:35):
No, it's definitely great, man, you know, just being just
knowing that you know the things I've done in college,
I'm I'm gonna be able to continue to keep doing
that at the next level.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
This one's for the group. Now that you guys are
here at the NFL level, rookie Minnie camp right around
the corner, what are you each most eager to get
to work on now that you're here in brienn with
the Browns.
Speaker 9 (20:57):
I'm just looking forward to getting back the foot.
Speaker 19 (20:59):
Well, I think in the whole whole process, Uh, there's
there's a lot going on and a lot of stress.
So so now having knowing where I'm gonna be, knowing
where home is, and and getting back to you know,
every day, I'm just trying to get better at football,
not run for certain tests or or certain things like that.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
I'm you know, that's what I'm most looking forward.
Speaker 18 (21:15):
To the same as well, because like during the drift process,
you're on so many visits and doing so many other
things and trying to find the time to manage and
find time to work out and different things of that sort.
Just getting back to football and you know, getting the playbook,
getting dialed in.
Speaker 20 (21:31):
Yeah, I definitely said the same thing as well. Well,
you know, I'm really eager to meet all the you know,
all the great guys. Uh, you know, that's on the
team and things like that.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
Hey, guys, anyone of you guys can answer this. It
looks like the Browns is traded up to get sugar.
If you guys have been playing real close attention this
week to what's been going on and what's your reaction
to having him with you guys.
Speaker 20 (21:57):
That'd be great, man, you know, I mean, i'd definitely
be that for him. You know, if the Brownss be
able to pick him up.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
You Berry talked about you being twenty and how that
how that impressed him in the fact you're able to
go to Penn State in Texas A and M and
be so good when you were that young. Were you
thinking about that at all that Hey, I'm twenty and
there's guys that are whatever, twenty two, twenty three, and
I'm still having being able to dominate like that.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean pretty much.
Speaker 20 (22:26):
I mean, like my mindset going into those games, like
you know, you're already supposed to lose, I guess, so,
I mean that's what they say. I mean, it's kind
of like when I go out there, it's just really
just prove it. So I mean, I mean just football
at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Though.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Up next to it's general manager Andrew Berry and head
coach Kevin Stefanski, who discussed the decision to trade up
in the fifth round and draft quarterback should do or Sanders.
Speaker 23 (22:47):
So before you start talking about the draft, I actually
wanted to take a little bit of time to really
recognize the Turpening family and and just really offer our
organization's condulecens to you know, Matt Stelling and for the
passing of of Coral. You know, Matt I've known since
two thousand and nine. He took me under his when
he was a West Coast scout, you know, for the Colts,
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and took me under under his wing as when I
was a scouting assistant. So H love that family, Love
love Matt, love those girls. And we're obviously really heartbroken
for you know, for Quarrel's passing, you know, about a
week and a half and ago. So I wanted to
start off just by you know, acknowledging that and and
and and just letting.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Matt know that our thoughts and prayers are really with you, man.
Speaker 23 (23:32):
So Day three, UH obviously made two selections today, you know,
starting with with Dylan some we knew well from University
of twenty CE Uh, you know, twenty year old running back.
Uh thinks he thinks he really compliments our room nicely,
runs a really tough and physical style. Despite being a
little bit undersize. He's a player who has a plus
makeup and a player that we think has untapped potential
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in the in the passing game. And then you know Shador.
You know, we talk oftentimes about quarterback being the most
important position in the sport. We obviously spend a lot
of time with you or throughout the process. Oh, he's
highly accurate, can play well from the pocket. Uh, you know,
very productive college career, and you know, we felt like
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it wasn't necessarily the plan going into the weekend to
select two quarterbacks. But you know, as we talk about,
we we do believe in best player available, We do
believe in positional value, and you know, we didn't necessarily
expect him to be available in the you know, in
the fifth round, and so we love adding competition to
every position room and adding him to compete with you know,
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the guys that are already in there. We felt like, you know,
that was the appropriate thing to do. So with that,
I'll open it up for questions.
Speaker 11 (24:45):
Yeah, Andrew, this is first for you. Can you just
I mean, this seems like sort of a blockbuster move
for you guys to make at this point. And then
also when we saw your guys' reaction in the UH
in the war room, it just didn't look necessarily exuberant.
So I don't know what we were seeing, but maybe
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you can explain that. And then also like how.
Speaker 20 (25:08):
Did this happen?
Speaker 23 (25:09):
Yeah, I think we're probably just tired from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Those clips.
Speaker 24 (25:15):
It's not timed up to exactly the right I wouldn't
take don't read too much into that, you know, can
you just explain this?
Speaker 11 (25:24):
This is a pretty big deal after everything that happened
with this epic free fall that he had, How did
this happen?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And what.
Speaker 23 (25:35):
I just said the biggest thing for us? You know,
we you know, we live by our board, you know.
We we felt like he was a good, solid prospect
at the most important position. We felt like it got
to a point where he was probably mispriced, you know,
relative to the relative to the draft. You know, really
the acquisition costs is was was pretty light. And it's
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a guy that we think, you know, can out produce
his draft slot. So I wouldn't say it's any more
than that. You know, Mary kay, I think you know
obviously Shador has kind of grown up in the spotlight.
But you know, our expectation is for him to come
in here and work and compete. Nothing's been promised, nothing's
you know, nothing will be given. So you know, I
may you know, hesitate to characterize it as a blockbuster.
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That's not necessarily how we thought of the transaction. But
we are excited to work with him.
Speaker 21 (26:26):
Jeff, both of you. I heard what you just said
about Shador. But isn't this chuck, it's going to come
along with uh? With with this pick, even if it's
not intentional, it seems everything follows him.
Speaker 24 (26:46):
You know, our guys understand, Jeff, when you're in the building,
we're here to work. We don't pay much attention to
what's on the outside.
Speaker 25 (26:55):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
We know we've spent a lot of time with Shador.
We know what he's about.
Speaker 16 (26:58):
Uh.
Speaker 24 (26:58):
He's coming in here to work, just like all of
our other players.
Speaker 16 (27:02):
For both of Kevin and ab either either one of you,
what are the biggest maybe misconceptions about Schador's game in
terms of the way he plays the quarterback position, traits
that sort of thing.
Speaker 23 (27:15):
I can't, Chris, I can't really speak on what other
people think. I can describe how we view him. We
view him as a highly accurate pocket passer. He does
a really good job of protecting the ball. You know,
he has enough of the physical characteristics, whether it's arm
strength or or you know, mobility. Like all young players,
there are things to improve. I think probably much has
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been said about the number of sacks he's taken. Some
of that is environment and some of that is is
his improvement on his end, for sure, but he has
probably a little bit more of a you know, call
it retro or classic style of play. You know, again,
I can't speak to what other how others view.
Speaker 26 (27:55):
Him without devulging maybe too much of the conversations when
you when you did them to to you know, tell
them that you were picking him. Just what was the
message to him and what was maybe his message to
you guys, because I'm sure again it was a disappointing
slide from somebody who expected to get picked early first round.
Speaker 23 (28:11):
I think our message to him, it's it's really all
this is like, look, got to come in, got to
come in and work, and you got to come in
and compete.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
That's the you know, that's the message.
Speaker 23 (28:20):
Nothing's given given the nature of the weekend for him,
you know, relative to let's say external expectation versus what happened.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
You know, we did tell him that it.
Speaker 23 (28:29):
Really doesn't matter where you picked, it's what you do
from that point forward, because that's the reality for all
the guys that we that we selected this weekend. In
terms of his reaction, I'd just say it was probably
a mixture of like, you know, gratitude, relief and determination.
That would probably be the best way to characterize it.
But you know, he's certainly ready to go.
Speaker 27 (28:51):
Andrew, because you guys were, you know, a big player
in the in the quarterback mark, so to speak, and
you did take one in the third round. Why do
you think he fell in the fifth round?
Speaker 23 (29:06):
I can't speak to why the market price of the
way he did. You know, we had our own internal
valuation in terms of how we view the skill set,
you know, and the quality of the player, and once
it got to a point where it felt like it
was at you know, a pretty steep discount, we just
felt like, hey, especially relative to the alternative ways that
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we could use the selection, this made the most.
Speaker 27 (29:30):
Sense and obviously he has an all time great football
player as a father and coach, so you could see
the pros of that.
Speaker 13 (29:41):
You know.
Speaker 27 (29:42):
Also he's got you know, Dion's got a larger than
life personality, you know, a huge platform and a lot
of influence. So how do you view those you know
kind of you know dynamics father son, and do you
think that had anything to do with him being available
in the fifth round?
Speaker 23 (30:01):
Our personal, uh relationship and interactions with you know, with Dion,
that that's really.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Been all positive from our perspective.
Speaker 23 (30:09):
And I mean that organizationally, not just me and Kevin,
but you know, really all of us who have interacted
with Dion and you know, the people out in Colorado.
You know, we don't typically penalize prospects for you know,
their their parents, you know, so to speak. You know,
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so I can't say if that was a factor or
not for you know, for other teams, but that wasn't
a that was not a significant.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Factor for us.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
You said, it became where you could get your dirt
a deep discount. So did the decision to trade for
him and make that pick come together pretty quick?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
It did at some point.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Okay, now was the time to make a move.
Speaker 23 (30:56):
Yeah, I'll be We typically go into Day three with
you know, with the number of names, because that's usually
where the boards across the league they kind of disperse.
You know, we did get a get did get an
early run on some of the players that we were targeting,
and you know, as we thought like the distance that
our last two picks were apart, and the way you know,
we could just kind of maximize those resources between the
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position and how we graded the prospect, we felt.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Like this was it.
Speaker 23 (31:20):
It's maybe a little bit like what I talked about
the top of the draft that I think people think
of a singular pick. It's oftentimes okay, well like who
are you going to select? But there are just so
many different ways that you can use that resource to
improve your team, and so we just try and think
of it broadly.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
And when we evaluated Dylan into or are there similarities
and their strengths that you saw on both of the skids.
Speaker 24 (31:41):
I'd say for sure, I think you know, what did
we talk about all pre draft accuracy decision making? Uh So,
I think that's strength of both of those young men.
Speaker 12 (31:52):
Andrew, do you find anything odd with the fact that
you traded away Travis Hunter and traded for Shader Sanders.
Speaker 23 (32:00):
I guess I never really thought of it, you know
that way Tony to you mention it, so I'll be honest,
I had not really given any of thought.
Speaker 12 (32:08):
Uh, we saw Jimmy right behind you. Guys, were you
encouraged by the owner to make this move?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Jimmy, lets us do our jobs. Yeah, Jimmy, lets us
do our jobs.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I got to go back to the Dylan Gabriel pick here,
when you say that you didn't expect to take two
quarterbacks in this draft?
Speaker 5 (32:34):
What was it about?
Speaker 7 (32:35):
We get the Shador thing, but what was about him
and then ultimately shau Door here? It compelled you to
alter your plan in what feels like a pretty dramatic
way here.
Speaker 23 (32:48):
I guess we wouldn't necessarily characterize it as dramatic, Darrel.
I think, you know, just like I could probably say
the plan wasn't necessary to take two running backs, Like
you envision how the draft could possibly play out, and
then you just really adjust to what's on the what's
on the board, And like I said, like we don't
really go into the draft saying okay, like hey, here
are our needs and we're just gonna pick player like
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at neat positions.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
If you do that, that's typically how you make mistakes.
Speaker 23 (33:11):
So there is a little bit of a flow to
the to the weekend because the board does take different
twists and turns as you go, some expected, some unexpected,
and ultimately we try and do everything in our power
to maximize the impact of the picks we have in aggregate,
and part of the reason you have to do that
is being flexible.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
And then for Kevin, the rep chart in training camp,
I think just got divided again. So now it's four.
How much are you looking forward to to navigating trying
to get four guys, not only a fair shake at it,
but also at the same time you're gonna be trying
to get ready for a football season.
Speaker 24 (33:53):
Yeah, we've talked about. I mean, there's ways to do both,
I think, Daryl, obviously you may not divide them twenty five,
twenty five, twenty five, but we feel really confident that
we'll have a plan that is fair to each player
and fair to the team as well.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Hey, guys, just to make it clear, I know we've
asked you this basically some version of it with every
new quarterback that's come into this room, But Andrew. You know,
you said, nothing's going to be given to him, but
will he have a chance to compete for the starting
job here?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
We expect every player to compete simple a set.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
And then just the narrative with him, like the outside narrative.
Seeing how people were talking about him throughout the draft process,
people kept pointing out the interviews with him. What was
your guys experience like with that?
Speaker 23 (34:35):
Yeah, it was, it was, It was positive. Actually, you know,
the interviews there, they're a small piece of it.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
You know.
Speaker 23 (34:40):
We we certainly do rely a lot more heavily, you
know on our reference work for people who have you know,
been with the prospect for two, three, four years at
the schools. That's you know, that's better. I think, you know,
I think you know. James Gladstone commented on this a
little bit ins pre draft pressure, like the idea that
you know, in a singular inner view session you can
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discern something that someone else would know from interacting with
a ninja of individual for four years.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
We also do subscribe to that notion.
Speaker 23 (35:08):
Now, quarterbacks are a little bit different, as you like,
push and prod on the mental aspect, and you know
that's something that we really lean on our coaching staff
to ascertain throughout the spring, but you know, his interactions
with us were.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Positive from Eugene to Boulder and back or even back here.
Did you ever entertain this scenario that these would be
the two?
Speaker 23 (35:30):
I mean, honestly, Zach probably kept a pretty open mind,
Like I didn't know exactly how it would go at
that point. At that point, we were just really working
through to make sure that we could get to know
the players and the people as well as.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Possible for both of you.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
Guys have talked about the importance of the cultural fit
of these guys. So for Shadoor, how do you envision
that going? What enticed you to come back and get
him in terms of that the fit as him as
a person?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
I think Shador.
Speaker 23 (36:08):
You know, he is uh probably a little bit opposite
in terms of his personality of his dad, you know,
obviously a little bit a little bit quieter, a little
bit more introverted.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
But you know, we felt we felt good with him.
We felt good with him as a person.
Speaker 23 (36:22):
You know, he works hard, he's a really good kid,
he wants to be great. His teammates, you know, loved
him in Colorado, and you know, I know he'll he'll
come in here ready to work. You know, I'm ready
to try and put his best foot forward in all
areas of competition.
Speaker 11 (36:39):
I know you guys are crazy busy in the war
room and you don't have time to pay attention to
a lot of the things that are going on. But
were you aware at all that that Shador received like
a really nasty prank call during during the draft and
and so I'm just wondering. I know you guys got
to know him really well, you developed an affinity for him.
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Can you just addressed your reaction today.
Speaker 24 (37:02):
Would be my reaction to that. I mean, it's sad
that these young men have to deal with this. That
happened a lot in the green room and Green Bay
guys were getting calls, So it's silly.
Speaker 11 (37:12):
But onward and upward, and knowing Shador as well as
you got to know him, do you feel like you
know he'll kind of be able to overcome or bounce
back the adversity of what happened this draft weekend and
kind of get his head back on and march forward.
Speaker 24 (37:31):
Yeah, Like I think all of our guys, I think
every player when they come into the draft knows what
number they were picked or if they were unpicked, and
you can use that as motivation. We don't care once
they walk in the doors. Don't care first round pick,
seventh round pick, undrafted. Once you're here and you're on
our football team, you're a part of this culture. You're
part of this family, and we're just going to get
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you know, keep our head down and get to work.
Speaker 27 (37:55):
Andrew, because you know you didn't you said you didn't
necessarily expect him to be where he.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Was, so you're having to pivot. So did you like come.
Speaker 27 (38:04):
Into the building today thinking like if he's available in
round five, we're gonna make make a move for him,
or like it was it in real time or like
how did how did all that go down?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Question? Yeah?
Speaker 23 (38:15):
No, it was something you know, going in to day
through the draft with him still on the board, it
was I thought like, okay, well, you know, depending on
how far he goes like that'd be something that we
would be interested in and and potentially taking them off
the taking them off the board, so you know, once
and and in fairness, like some of that is relative
to what else is available to you from a from
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a prospect standpoint, And so as the names kept you know,
coming off the board and we saw how we were positioned,
you know, we just felt like the value was there.
Speaker 21 (38:51):
This is just a book keeping when I know you're
not gonna directly answer it, but Kenny Pickett, do you
have to do you decide in May whether that pick
up that fifth year option or how does that work.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
So that that would have been last year with Phil?
Speaker 23 (39:04):
You have to make that decision after year three since
he's already in year four, that's not a decision that
we make.
Speaker 16 (39:09):
Yeah, you take two running backs quin Sean and UH
and Dylan. Is it fair to assume or or would
it be fair to assume that what that means to Uh,
to Nick's potential future with with the franchise as a
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potential you're resigning.
Speaker 23 (39:30):
Chris the question, Chris, I'd say, you know, not necessarily.
But you know the complexion of our running back room
has changed this weekend and so as we you know,
work through the you know on drafted free agency process,
you know, maybe take a breath on Sunday, you know,
we'll reassess kind of where the roster is and and
what opportunities are available to us, you know, on the
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veteran market and then we'll operate from there.
Speaker 17 (39:54):
Andrew, I think there was at least some thought that
you guys might target or try to find wide receiver
in this this weekend there in the draft. Would you
sort of say at this point that's an area you
feel is still a work in progress in terms of
maybe you're going to address it in the weeks ahead.
Speaker 23 (40:10):
Whole roster is a work in progress, So any opportunity
that we can use to improve it, you know, we'll
look into.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Finally, it's the newest member of the Cleveland Browns Colorado quarterbacks,
Shadeur Sanders, who discussed the opportunity to learn in this
room of quarterbacks and even compete for the starting job.
Speaker 11 (40:29):
High shudor congratulations on becoming a Cleveland brown first of all,
but just wanted to ask you, can you please put
into words somehow just the emotional roller coaster that you
have been on since the first day of this draft
and waiting for this to happen, including you know, a
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nasty prant call that everyone can agree was a horrible thing,
to finally getting that phone call from the Browns and
jumping in the pool.
Speaker 13 (41:01):
Yeah, I would say I'm extremely grateful for the opportunity
throughout everything. I don't ever focus on the negative or
even think about the negative because the positive happened so fast,
and you know, it's a change of emotions. For me,
it was just playing quarterback. That's what it's about. You
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gotta you can't be up to too low or anything.
You gotta be able to celebrate. So we like when
we score testdown, we celebrate for a little bit. Now
it's back to time to work, it's time to go.
So that's all it is is a football game to me,
and that's how I view it. That's my personality is
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I always stay I would say level through adversity and
level through everything any situation I'm faced with because I
know what it's gonna require for me to come out
on top.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
HI should word.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
This is Ashley Bassak from Cleveland dot Com. I wanted
to talk to you about that because I know you
bring up how adversity fuels you a lot. So, I
mean just knowing so many analysts had you pegged as
first or second round talent to fall to Day three,
how is going when you went in the draft going
to motivate you think going forward in your NFL career?
Speaker 13 (42:17):
Yeah, I don't feel like I feel like talent is
everywhere throughout the draft. It's about just being picked and
who and who sees your value. That's that's pretty much it,
because it's a lot of valuable players that go, you know,
in the rounds after the first and second. So I'm
a product of one of those and I understand you
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can't really categorize. I'll say my talent. I just got
to prove and show what I'm capable of, but refused
me as my purpose in life and understanding the route
that that's now that we're gonna have to take. Understanding
that I was able to get an opportunity and a
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lot of people didn't want to give me an opportunity.
So that's what I'm truly thankful for to that, that's
what fuels me.
Speaker 26 (43:10):
Hey share This is Daniel Yfusi with ESPN. I just
wanted to get your thoughts on specifically coming to Cleveland
to play for the Browns. I know that this was
an organization that you spend a lot of time with
during the pre draft process, and now it's official that
you are coming here, but maybe a little later than
you expected. So how do you think you're gonna fit
in with this team and with this organization.
Speaker 13 (43:30):
I know I'm gonna fit in perfectly. I feel like
it's first getting in, showing the respect to the vets,
showing them you know, I'm here ready to work, show
the coaches and have them understand you know, I'm here
ready to work, so they could actually understand the real me.
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That's that's what I'm truly thankful to have, is an
opportunity for people to actually see the real me and
not be able to see, you know, stuff that could
be true or not. So that's what I'm most excited
about being in the building, and of course in the
staff and on the staff and the cafetia, everything was
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extremely the people that were genue and it was real cool.
So I left that visit h knowing that if that
was the place for me, I would feel real comfortable
with what they have in place.
Speaker 16 (44:30):
Hey shout, Christie Stroming, I can beak in journal. I
know You've been asked a million questions about your dad
over the years, but you know, obviously his experience and
in this specific business and in pro football. As you
were going through the last couple of days and going
through this, you know you know, seeing kind of waiting
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your turn, waiting for your name. What was sort of
his advice to you? Did Was there anything he sort
of said to you or we're things sort of understood,
just you know, between you and him, you know, just
about what was going on.
Speaker 13 (45:06):
He said, God got it. So that's that's what it is.
I look at what went on, and everything is a
football game. You know, you may not you may not
come out fairly hot. You know, you may that may
may not happen, but you know, when it's down to
the final two minutes of the game, then you understand
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the level of seriousness raises the stake, all the stakes raised,
and that's why I thrive in those high pressure moments.
So I never felt any type of way. I never
felt any type of way. I understood, Okay, this is
the route and that's it.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
She did it with that.
Speaker 21 (45:50):
What kind of burden was it being the son of
Dion and that you were not just just a regular
player here in college football.
Speaker 13 (46:00):
Well, it's never a burden. It's never burden. I wouldn't
I wouldn't look at that as that. I feel like everybody.
God makes everybody have their own routes, and this is
just my route, Like there's nothing I would be able
to go back and wish I wasn't uh, wish that
wasn't my dad, because I'm too thankful for and being
there and the structure I have, So it's never really
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a burden. I just I just find it. You know
that other kids in similar situations, I want them to
be proud of what their fathers and what they have accomplished,
so then you could carry on a legacy, carry on
the family name, and not really be trying to feel
ashamed about it. I don't like when people make people
feel ashamed about it.
Speaker 8 (46:52):
Should or a cameraon Justice News by Cleveland here. You're
going to get in here and I just get to
work in a couple of weeks. Rookie Minnie camp, what's
your mindset heading into this organization with that mini camp
around the corner and the anticipated quarterback competition for that
starting role in this upcoming season.
Speaker 13 (47:09):
Get there and handle my business, do what I have
to do, whatever role that is. You know, I'm just
thankful for opportunities. So that's all I could ask for.
The rest is on me.
Speaker 27 (47:22):
Histre do or congratulations. You said earlier that you want
people here with the Browns to see the real you.
You're coming to a new franchise and fan base and city,
So what can you tell people about what they will see?
Speaker 5 (47:37):
What is the real you?
Speaker 13 (47:41):
The real me? I'm definitely gonna be able to show
with actions actions more and you'll understand. I'll be more
involved in, you know, the community and really the leading
the kids in the right direction. That's the main thing.
And whatever situation they're in, that's really where I feel
like I have the most impact on. It's really the
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kids and giving them, you know, a different perspective of
respect parents, respect their elders, and respect those people that
are in position to give you advice, so that that's
where you'll see the most impact there. And of course
within the building, and you know, just making sure everybody
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is comfortable with whatever situation anything is. So that's how
I make everybody feel comfortable. And then understand, I'm not,
you know, just here to talk about it. I'm here
to prove it.
Speaker 25 (48:35):
I'm sure, Door, you've been around the game a long
time and you know, learning of the business.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
Especially through your father.
Speaker 25 (48:43):
And while you know you've said everything that you've kept
the faith, does your experience the last couple of days
maybe change your outlook on the business of football or
how things are done behind the scenes.
Speaker 13 (48:53):
No, nothing really affected me the last couple of last
couple of days, you know, to just really push having
faith and understanding. You know, God really had me and
I'm favored. I'm blessed. Besides, that is not really anything
that changes. The love of the game is to the
game when you get on the field. It wasn't too much,
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you know, negativity being said. I know I got to
clean up some things in my game for me to
be at my best. But that's what I take each
off season, one at a time and fix me. You know.
So I think I think that was just outside of
football getting in the way. But therefore I have an
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opportunity now then I'll be and we're about to get
on grass really soon.
Speaker 17 (49:42):
Hey should congratulations as a spencer German Cleveland Brown's on SI.
Just throughout how this entire process, You've been pretty open about,
you know, some of the comments made about you and
different things that have been said.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
So given how that all.
Speaker 17 (49:57):
Went, given how this weekend went, going to the fifth ride,
like do you come into the league feeling like you
have a lot to prove, even though you try to
stay pretty positive and above the negativity.
Speaker 13 (50:07):
Yeah, of course, it is the main thing. I'm just proving.
I'm just proving my I'm just proving coach t VNSK
and mister Barrier that they are right. That's it. They're
right about picking me. I'm a good decision. I'm a
good draft pick for them to be able to come
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in there and do what I need to do.
Speaker 6 (50:32):
Should or do you have any regrets about anything in
the pre draft process?
Speaker 13 (50:37):
Do I have any regrets? I feel like in life
it's always the way I can improve, So it's always
in different areas I'm able to improve. And some things
that you know I could have done at the time
that seemed right at the time, I could have went
about it a different way, and that that's like more
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during season and stuff like that.
Speaker 22 (51:04):
Yeah, should or justin Cooper here ESPN Cleland, he wanted
to ask you what that moment was like between you
and your dad. Obviously you wanted to go higher up
in the in the draft, but weren't able to do that.
And after following, I'm sure it was probably relief. And
what was that like for you two and what was
the embrace like.
Speaker 13 (51:27):
Uh, I don't know if me and Dad hugged, but
it was more just understanding that the main thing is
just getting the opportunity. That's why I preach on that.
That's why I stand on that, because that's that was
my main goal. After we watched, you know, the first
second round go by, and my name wasn't called or
anything else. Okay, all we need is opportunity, So we
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really didn't. It really didn't matter what pick, what round
could have went.
Speaker 7 (51:54):
Anything should order Ryder from ninety two three to the
fan everywhere you've gone in foot while, you've been able
to turn around and elevate programs. What is it about
you that gives you that ability? And I know, being
a fifth round pick, those expectations might not be fair
in this particular moment. But also what would it mean
for you to come to Cleveland and potentially work your
way into becoming this franchise's long lost franchise quarterback.
Speaker 13 (52:20):
I'm a senders, so it's only gonna be expectations in
regardless of what pick I am.
Speaker 11 (52:27):
Shudort, you mentioned that nothing has bothered you over the
past couple of days. I actually have two questions real
quick The first question is did that prank phone call?
Did that not get to you or how do you
feel about the person who did that to you? And
what impact did that have on you when that happened today?
Speaker 13 (52:51):
It don't really have no impact on me because this
is like, I mean, okay, let's man, I don't.
Speaker 7 (52:56):
I don't.
Speaker 13 (52:57):
I don't feed into negativity or I don't feel it
into that stuff like you've you've seen on deon Jamie
as well of YouTube video my reaction to it.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
I don't.
Speaker 13 (53:11):
This is what it is. I think. I think, of
course the child is of course I feel like it
was a childish act. But everybody do childish things here
and there, so okay.
Speaker 11 (53:24):
And then my second question is there there was a
lot of talk throughout the pre draft process that you were,
you know, brash and arrogant and that you were not
interviewing well and you weren't coming off right in some
of those interviews. Do you feel like it did that,
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Did any of those things actually happen and do you
think that that is what cost you some draft status.
Speaker 13 (53:59):
I think what happen from I had a great interview
in great process with the Browns, and that's why he
was able to pick me. So anything outside the organization
isn't really is really a non factor to me now
because this is my focus and this is what my
mind is, is doing everything I can to make the
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team better. So everything outside of that, it doesn't really
the opinions don't really matter.
Speaker 12 (54:28):
Should there When the Browns drafted Dylan Gabriel yesterday, did
you think it was possible you'd end up in Cleveland?
Speaker 13 (54:36):
No, I wasn't really watching at that point in time.
Speaker 22 (54:39):
Should or as you look at this Browns roster, what
gets you excited when you look at the offensive side
of the ball?
Speaker 13 (54:48):
I would say the system, the offense, I would say,
the receivers, running backs, I would say the old line.
It's really it's really I want to be able to
get in there and meet all these different personalities and
even the corner even even dzel War I was pretty cool.
He reached out and Kenny reached out too. So it's
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really just getting around the people and being able to
live in the building. Uh, I don't know. Me and
Dad hugged, but it was more of just understanding that
the main thing is just getting the opportunity. That's why
I preach on that That's why I stand on that,
because that's that was my main goal. After we watched
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you know, the first second round go by and my
name wasn't called or anything else. Okay, all we need
is opportunity, So we really didn't. It really didn't matter
what pick around could have win anything.
Speaker 7 (55:47):
Schugordero Ryder from ninety two three to the fan. Everywhere
you've gone in football, you've been able to turn around
and elevate programs.
Speaker 5 (55:53):
What is it about you that gives you that ability?
Speaker 7 (55:55):
And I know, being a fifth round pick, those expectations
might not be fair in this particular moment. But also
what would it mean for you to come to Cleveland
and potentially work your way into becoming this franchise's long
lost franchise quarterback.
Speaker 13 (56:11):
I'm a Sanders, so it's only gonna be expectations in
regardless of what pick I am should ort.
Speaker 11 (56:19):
You mentioned that nothing has bothered you over the past
couple of days. I actually have two questions real quick.
The first question is did that prank phone call? Did
that not get to you? Or how do you feel
about the person who did that to you? And what
impact did that have on you? When that happened today
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that it.
Speaker 13 (56:41):
Don't really have no impact on me because this is like,
I mean, okay, let's I don't. I don't. I don't
feed into negativity or I don't feed into that stuff
like you've you've seen on Deon Jenior as well off
YouTube video Myria to it. I don't. This is what
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it is. I think. I think, of course the childish.
Of course I feel like it was a childish act.
But everybody do childish things here and there, So.
Speaker 24 (57:14):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (57:15):
And then my second question is there there was a
lot of talk throughout the pre draft process that you were,
you know, brash and arrogant, and that you were not
interviewing well and you weren't coming off right in some
of those interviews. Do you feel like it did that,
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Did any of those things actually happen and do you
think that that is what cost you some draft status.
Speaker 13 (57:49):
I think what happened was I had a great interview
in great process with the Browns, and that's why it
was able to pick me. So anything outside the organization
isn't really is really a non factor to me now
because this was my focus and this is what my
mind is is doing everything I can to make this
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team better. So everything outside of that, it doesn't really
the opinions don't really matter.
Speaker 12 (58:18):
Should there When the Browns drafted Dylan Gabriel yesterday, did
you think it was possible you'd end up in Cleveland?
Speaker 2 (58:27):
No?
Speaker 13 (58:27):
I wasn't really watching at that point in time.
Speaker 22 (58:30):
Should or as you look at this Browns roster? What
gets you excited when you look at the offensive side
of the ball?
Speaker 13 (58:38):
I would say the system, the offense. I would say
the receivers, running backs, I would say the old line.
It's really it's really I want to be able to
get in there and meet all these different personalities and
even the corner even even even Denzel war I was
pretty cool. He reached out and and Kenny reached out too.
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So it's really just getting around the people and being
able to live in the building.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
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listening to the from the Podium podcast
Welcome to another NFL Draft edition of the From the
Podium podcast. I'm Gabe Klea. Today was the final day
of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, and the Browns
wrapped things up by selecting Dylan Sampson, a running back
out of Tennessee, in the fourth round, and Shadoor Sanders,
Colorado quarterback in round five. On this episode, you'll hear
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from Director of Player Personnel Dan Sagany, running back Dylan Samson,
linebacker Carson Swessinger, tight end Harold Fannin, junior running back
quin Shawn Judkins, general manager Andrew Berry, head coach Kevin Stefanski,
and quarterback Shadoor Sanders. We start with Director of Player
Personnel Dan Sagany, who discussed how Dylan Sampson's running style
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can compliment that of quin Sewn Judkins.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, I would just I.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Would start by saying, we're really excited to add Dylan
to the group. Obviously, with Quin Shawn, both like explosive runners.
You know, Dylan was SEC Player of the Year, very
productive player in both phases. Brings like a good complimentary
skill set with q you know, both guys have had high,
high levels of production in the sec you got. You know,
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both guys have really good speed, run with toughness, and
have pass game value. So anytime we can add two
backs to can play on all three downs, we're excited.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
So Dan, just knowing that production with Dylan specifically, like,
were you guys surprised he was still available to you
at this.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Point in the draft?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
And I know everyone always talks about value on day three,
So was there just immense value there with his production
coupled where you guys were picking.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I think we talk about it every year and here,
like day three, everybody's board is so different. So for us,
it's the opportunity to take you know, a really productive
player that we liked through the process.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We were able to spend some good time with him at.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The combine and just you know, feel really good about
the production mixed with the person. He's what you know,
we describe as an orange dot type of player in person.
So anytime you get an old you know, a really productive,
complimentary player to your offense at the right price, which
you know was a great value for us here, pretty
excited to at him and just take him off the
board and put him in the room and get ready
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to go.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So the you it would be pretty durable. Yeah, I
certainly hope. So he's a yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I mean, anytime you're winning SEC Offensive Player of the
Year with that volume in production, you know, I think
it says a lot about how you take care of
your body and.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know how durable you are as a player.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
So yeah, he would be, you know, a developmental returner
for us. He's a guy that you know, when you
have multiple backs and guys that have return experience in
the room between our receiver room, our running back room
with Jerome, you know, there's plenty of, plenty of options there.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So you know, the new kickoff rule is.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You know, an evolving thing, and I think it's you know,
a good question, you know for Bubba and our staff,
how we once we get everybody into the building, you know,
see how guys do field and ball. And he certainly
has the speed and toughness to run and you know,
be a productive NFL.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Returner Dan Harold Fannon new to the position, but crazy
productive at the college level. So what do you see
in him now versus what you might see in two
or three years with.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Fan oh Man.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I mean, I know we talked about him last night.
Obviously really good fit for the offense. Elite hands, and
you know, for an offense that you know values tight
end play, especially having multiple tight ends that can do
a lot of different things. A guy that can get
open and catch the ball obviously at record breaking pace
like he did, and then run after the catch. You know,
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anytime you can pair that with a guy like David
longer term, you know, you just you have two options
that are real pass game weapons and you know, provide
a lot of value to the offense as you go.
So allows us to play how we want to play too.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Offense line would seem to just based on what you
guys currently have and where guys are in their career
and contracts and things like that. How I guess you know,
how hard has it been to not draft for a
position of like need when it comes to the offensive line,
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and then also to how do you balance that with,
you know, with some of these other picks that you've made,
like you know, taking Gabriel there at the end of
the third round.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, I mean I'll start by saying this, I think
we feel really good about where we're at with our
offensive line group right now. You know, we obviously have
a lot of experienced veterans in our in our our
call it frontline starters right now, and then behind them
we have good depth we're able to add you know,
Jenkins who's played guard, played tackle. You know, we feel
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really good about Zack Sindri's development, and a bunch of
the young guys in that room. As far as you know,
how we pair together the draft and piecing together picks,
it really just becomes, you know, best available guy, that's
the best fit we think long term.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And we still got a couple of picks left.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
There's a few offensive linemen the left that you know,
I'm sure we'd love to add if the opportunity comes,
you know, but really, when you're when you're piecing together
everything in the draft, we're looking for the best value,
best players, best cultural fit, guys that fit how we
want to play on both sides of the ball, and
you know it goes across multiple positions.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
So Dylan, you mentioned some of that development. What are
some of the attributes that he has that you are
maybe looking to get the most out of when he
gets in here and starts working with the organization.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, Dylan is a guy that I think is just
such a natural.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
He is such a natural feel for.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
The game as a quarterback. His ability to navigate the pocket,
his ability to escape pressure, to throw at anticipation, touch, accuracy,
he's really just like how I would describe as a
very natural quarterback. So he's done it across multiple levels
of competition at three different schools, stepped in and you know,
showing the ability to win and be ultra productive at
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the position. And you know, he's a guy that can
play in a shotgun RPO system. He you know, we
think he has good value with a lot of the
things that we do offensively. And again, when you when
you piece together, you know the person and just how
they play the position, the accuracy and the field. You know,
you feel really good about that translating and developing further
once you get him in the building.
Speaker 9 (06:24):
So, with the depth of this running back class, did
you guys go in thinking or knowing that you would
take two?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Honestly, I don't think it was a plan or like
something that you're saying, hey, we need two backside of
this draft, Like, we feel good with the guys that
are here to Again, we're trying to add, you know,
the best competition we can. You know, Obviously CU's a
really good player, Dylan's going to be a really good player.
So you're just you're excited to add high level talent
when you think you can get it. And then you know,
when we're in day three and everybody's board, you know,
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kind of goes all over the place in the league.
If a guy's sitting there and you're excited to take him.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You just turn the card in and get ready to go.
Speaker 9 (07:01):
How different do you think their styles are Q and Dylan?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's a good question.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I don't want to pin like a certain style on
either guy because I think, I mean, you know, both
guys have been super productive rushers, you know, both in
the sec from one Q is at at old Miss.
But you know, I think like when you pair the
two of them together, you have two fast guys that
run hard, run with energy. Both guys are kind of
what I would describe as like energy energizer bunny type
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of runners, but also have power and three down value,
so they can help you in both phases and really, like,
you know, both guys have really natural you know, vision, strength, acceleration, speed,
everything that we look for in a back in our system.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So should pair well together.
Speaker 10 (07:46):
Kind of kind of along that line. As you build
a roster. I'm thinking back to, like, you know, when
you guys had Nick and Kareem together for so long,
how important is it to have like two starting caliber
backs on your roster.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I think it's huge in the NFL. And these
you know, this day and age.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know, obviously those are two two elite guys right there,
and you know we're hoping, you know, to get that
level of production out of these guys.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It's something that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You know, you hope anytime you draft a player they
can be as productive, you know, as they prove to
be in college. But yeah, I mean having two backs
is extremely important. It's you know, a position where we
obviously value running the football in our organization. And again,
guys that have speed, toughness, you know, run with vision
and instincts. Anytime you get two year excited and you know,
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don't have to have one guy totally carry the load.
You can keep people fresh and wear people down over
the course of the game.
Speaker 11 (08:39):
So with you guys finishing tied for second last in
the NFL last year with only eight rushing touchdowns, how
much did you need that infusion of the running game
and how much do you think that a bolstered and
rejuvenated running game is going to help whoever's starting at quarterback,
your defense, and everything else about this football team.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, that's a great question. I think it naturally.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Does you know, the ability to run the football in
when you're a yard or two away helps I mean,
you know, we had Kareem man Nick, We're you know,
very fortunate to have two high level NFL backs here
for a long time. And you know, Judkins has proven
to be super productive in that area.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
He's got good power behind him.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And then with Dylan, same thing, has speed, as has
touchdown production. We're always looking for guys that can score
the touchdown at any or score touchdowns at any offensive position.
These guys both have proven that against the highest level
competition in the country.
Speaker 12 (09:34):
So I was going to ask you about your number
one option as a short yardage back would probably be
Judkins at this point, right answer, I would let.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Kevin answer that one, honestly, Like both guys, Like that's
the good thing about both players in my opinion, is
they both have like power behind you know, behind their pads,
and both guys have that element of speed. Judkins is
a little bit bigger, So I think that would kind
of be the natural thought process there. But ultimately, you know,
in our system of your ability to put the foot,
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put your foot in the ground and get up the field,
that one yard burst of acceleration matters.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
As much as being two hundred and twenty pounds too.
Speaker 12 (10:13):
And the room's getting crowded and Chubb's still out there.
So we asked yesterday with Judkins the draft would be
for Chubb's future.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
So I'm gonna ask it.
Speaker 12 (10:23):
Two backs, What does that mean for Chub's future here?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I mean, obviously I would defer those those questions to
Andrew and Kevin. Ultimately, we're we're really excited to add
two young backs. And again, you know, to the questions earlier,
it's a position where, hey, we knew we needed an
infusion in that room in general, regardless of the vets
that are available on the street. You know, with Nick,
with the guys in the room, it's, hey, we're gonna
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add add some talented players when we get an opportunity
to do it up.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Next is running back Dylan Sampson, who discussed his one
cut running style.
Speaker 11 (10:55):
And pairing with quin Shawn Judkins and what do you
think you guys can do to get other in the
backfield for this team.
Speaker 13 (11:03):
Sorry, it's a little low.
Speaker 14 (11:04):
Can you say it again.
Speaker 11 (11:05):
Yeah, I'm just wondering how you feel about coming in
here and pairing with Quinn Shawn Judkins and what you
guys can do as far as a one two punch
in the backfield here.
Speaker 14 (11:16):
Yeah, man, it's a blessing.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You know.
Speaker 15 (11:18):
I think if you look at the NFL right now,
it's kind of like the platform. You know, you see
God like Montgomery and Gibbs, you know in the past,
Alvin Kamara and Mark Een.
Speaker 14 (11:29):
You know, I think it works best when you have
guys who compliment each other and you know, push each
other to be the best.
Speaker 10 (11:36):
Hey, Dylan, I saw somewhere that Reggie Bush was one
of your idols or somebody that you tried to emulate.
What what was it about his game that you loved,
just like the.
Speaker 14 (11:46):
Hot electric key was, you know with the ball out
in space, you know, whether you're catching the ball or
running the ball. You know, he just had that duthe
and you know that energy that you know kind of
like it fed into the game and wanted you really
wanted to see him with ball in your fans, so
you know, you try to implement some of that in
my game.
Speaker 16 (12:05):
Hey Dylan, Obviously the last several years, you know, Nick
Chubb has been sort of a staple for the Browns one.
How much have you over your you know, kind of
watched Nick and how much do you you know, kind
of take from his game in two But the thought
of maybe you and Quincheane kind of being the next
the era of the air of appearance to him with
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this franchise.
Speaker 14 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, oh, definitely watch Nick Schubb over the years.
You know, he's a different type of runner than me,
but just the violence he plays with, you know, when
he's healthy, you know, one of the best backs in
the league when you have you know, and definitely a
staple in that program. But I just try to watch
god similar to my play style, similar to my body type,
you know, because it's just more realistic to me.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Hey Dylan, you're gonna get in here in just a
couple of weeks and start working rookie mini camps. So
for you, what are some of the areas of the
game you're looking to show off to the Browns organization
once you're at work, and what are maybe some of
the areas that you're looking to get to work on
early as a Brown.
Speaker 14 (13:08):
Yeah, so you know, just looking you know, to come
in and show them, you know, how quick I could
you know, take in the offense and learn to play
my ability to practice information and you know, play out
in space as well as in between the tackles, and
and just looking to improve in the small details of
my game. Uh what that pass pro you know, get
the physical aspect of it, you know, just being able
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to be a three down back.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know.
Speaker 17 (13:34):
Hey, Dylan, congratulations playing in the SEC obviously considered generally
the best conference in college football. Just how do you think, uh,
the opponents you've played over the years and especially this
past year and then the success that you have has
prepared you for the NFL.
Speaker 14 (13:51):
Yeah, you know, if you I'll talk about just practice,
you know, we talking about practice, you know, going against
guys like y'all James Pierce, you know a lot of
the good D line, and we had it prepared me
for each and every single game, you know, because I
mean those are both guys you know who one just
got drafted in the first round and the other one
for the thing you know, raand but it's competition every
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single day of practice. So and then I get to
play against you know, guys like Dayalen Walker and uh,
you know, just a lot of other guys. So it
prepared me the most and the most competition. And it's
definitely roughed in between those types in the SEC. So
you know, I'm ready to experience on the next level.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Hey don't first, did you know quin Shine from your
days together in the SEC? He said, what did you
know Quin Shane like off the field personally just from
having been together in the SEC.
Speaker 14 (14:44):
Yeah, Nah, I didn't. I never talked to him I
was in the SEC, but you know I definitely knew
loved him, you know, because he definitely jumped onto the
scene and started doing the theme, but didn't have a
relationship with him.
Speaker 9 (14:55):
And when you talk about your play style, how would
you describe that.
Speaker 14 (15:00):
I'll just say, you know, I played with a certain
type of tenacity and violence, but you know it's also
kind of you know, calm and control at the same time.
I feel like I'm not a flasky runner. I don't
do a lot of moves, but my contact ballance shows,
you know, my moved out in space show and my
you know, my ability and my vision and my feed
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show up on tape, so you know, I'm just looking to,
you know, put everything together.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Up next, it was the day two picks Carson Sweessinger,
Harold fannin Junior and quin Shawn Judkins, who made their
first visit to the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Borea.
Speaker 11 (15:34):
Well, my question is going to be for you, quin Schewn.
The Browns just also drafted another running back in Dylan Samson.
Can you just talk about what kind of one two
punch you guys might for him? And how excited are
you to work with Dylan?
Speaker 18 (15:48):
Definitely super excited coming from a backfield where it's been
another one two punch dot come from.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Uh, you look forward to that, especially.
Speaker 18 (15:55):
As a team player, you know, whatever it takes to
win and playing alongside other great players think that helps.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Punch on, I have another one for you. You know,
there's this perception for a long time here that Buckeyes
weren't typically drafted by the Cleveland Browns, and now that's
kind of changed. Dewan Denzel Award here, Luke Whippler for you,
how does it feel to be among one of the
now many Buckeyes on the Browns feels great.
Speaker 18 (16:20):
I got to see Denzel when I first got in
the building earlier, and just that feeling of being a
buck Eye and getting the feeling to just stay home
and you don't have to go out of state anywhere else,
and just getting to keep making my mark here in
the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's important.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
This questions for Carson. I know I asked you a
little bit about this yesterday, but the chip on your
shoulder aspect of how you play and everything, like, how
are you looking forward to bringing that here and bringing
that energy and how much does it inform your style
of play?
Speaker 19 (16:50):
Yeah, I think that's a big part of my style
of play. I think, even going back to youth ball,
I've had the chip on my shoulder where when I
step on the field, I want to be somebody making plays.
And you know that's that's an energy you bring in,
a toughness and and I'm looking forward to being able
to compete every day.
Speaker 16 (17:09):
The one herold to be left out of the out
of the un just I mean being you know, being
kind of the hometown team here, you know, growing up
in Canton and everything. Just what has this been like
since you know, we obviously told you last night. But
since then to now, what has it been like in
terms of the number of people you know, in Canton
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and elsewhere in the area who have kind of reached
out to you congratulated. What's that all been like for you?
Speaker 20 (17:37):
It's definitely been like a big blessing. You know, especially
growing up close to here. You know the family, you
know they're always going to show they love support going crazy,
but I mean just really is just a blessing. You know,
my family, they're my big support staff, so you know,
they always gonna keep supporting me.
Speaker 21 (17:56):
Hey, Kyson, this for you bio bioengineering, right, what talk
about that?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
And what do you want to do and how'd you pick.
Speaker 21 (18:04):
That as your major?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Well, what I want.
Speaker 19 (18:07):
To do is play football, so right now that's kind
of on the back burner. But I just kind of
chose it. I grew up science and math, was good
at and enjoyed it, and you know, starting as a
walk on, you never know what the past is going
to be, so you want to make the degree worth it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And I felt that was a good.
Speaker 19 (18:22):
Decision heading heading into UCLA, which was a great school
already academically, and so that that was really what was
behind that decision. I think for me what I always
found interesting. A lot of the new biotechnology and things
like that were really interesting. And you know, my mind,
I've always grown up around sports, especially football, So anytime
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I'm in classes and they're talking about the new technology
coming out and certain healthcare fields or things like that,
my mind just goes straight to sports and how it
can help in sports science and things like that. So
I think that could always be an interesting route.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Harold, this is for you.
Speaker 22 (18:58):
Did David and Joku reach out to you at all
when you got the news that you were draft and
if he did, what did he say?
Speaker 20 (19:06):
I mean, I don't know. You know a lot of
people have been calling me. I mean, I have to
keep checking, but I'll let you know if he does.
Speaker 22 (19:13):
Evan said that you had a pretty special lunch at
BG here. You said that you have a pretty interesting
story to tell about that. So yeah, could you tell
us a little bit more about that?
Speaker 20 (19:25):
Yes, yeah, pretty much called me and asked where you
want to go. I just wanted to keep it somewhere close,
you know, didn't want to go out the go out
the town or anything, so I said, Frickers. And you
know when he called me on draft night. He said,
make sure you bring us off some freckers.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Another one for Harold Kevin Stefanski loves tight ends. So
how excited are you to be brought into a program
with a head coach that really paid places a premium
in value on your position as far as incorporating you
within the office sense?
Speaker 20 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean I'm very excited to play, you know,
especially for a guy like that, Like you said, he's
big on tight end, so you know he's gonna be
able to, you know, work me around, be able to
play me to my strengths and things like that.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
One more for you.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I know, Andrew Berry when you talked to us yesterday,
referred to you as like the queen on the chessboard
that they feel like they can move you around through
a bunch of different spots. I know you talked a
little bit about your versatility with us on the phone,
but just hearing that from the GM of the team
that just drafted you, what's it like to have them
instill that confidence in you right now?
Speaker 20 (20:35):
No, it's definitely great, man, you know, just being just
knowing that you know the things I've done in college,
I'm I'm gonna be able to continue to keep doing
that at the next level.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
This one's for the group. Now that you guys are
here at the NFL level, rookie Minnie camp right around
the corner, what are you each most eager to get
to work on now that you're here in brienn with
the Browns.
Speaker 9 (20:57):
I'm just looking forward to getting back the foot.
Speaker 19 (20:59):
Well, I think in the whole whole process, Uh, there's
there's a lot going on and a lot of stress.
So so now having knowing where I'm gonna be, knowing
where home is, and and getting back to you know,
every day, I'm just trying to get better at football,
not run for certain tests or or certain things like that.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
I'm you know, that's what I'm most looking forward.
Speaker 18 (21:15):
To the same as well, because like during the drift process,
you're on so many visits and doing so many other
things and trying to find the time to manage and
find time to work out and different things of that sort.
Just getting back to football and you know, getting the playbook,
getting dialed in.
Speaker 20 (21:31):
Yeah, I definitely said the same thing as well. Well,
you know, I'm really eager to meet all the you know,
all the great guys. Uh, you know, that's on the
team and things like that.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
Hey, guys, anyone of you guys can answer this. It
looks like the Browns is traded up to get sugar.
If you guys have been playing real close attention this
week to what's been going on and what's your reaction
to having him with you guys.
Speaker 20 (21:57):
That'd be great, man, you know, I mean, i'd definitely
be that for him. You know, if the Brownss be
able to pick him up.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
You Berry talked about you being twenty and how that
how that impressed him in the fact you're able to
go to Penn State in Texas A and M and
be so good when you were that young. Were you
thinking about that at all that Hey, I'm twenty and
there's guys that are whatever, twenty two, twenty three, and
I'm still having being able to dominate like that.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean pretty much.
Speaker 20 (22:26):
I mean, like my mindset going into those games, like
you know, you're already supposed to lose, I guess, so,
I mean that's what they say. I mean, it's kind
of like when I go out there, it's just really
just prove it. So I mean, I mean just football
at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Though.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Up next to it's general manager Andrew Berry and head
coach Kevin Stefanski, who discussed the decision to trade up
in the fifth round and draft quarterback should do or Sanders.
Speaker 23 (22:47):
So before you start talking about the draft, I actually
wanted to take a little bit of time to really
recognize the Turpening family and and just really offer our
organization's condulecens to you know, Matt Stelling and for the
passing of of Coral. You know, Matt I've known since
two thousand and nine. He took me under his when
he was a West Coast scout, you know, for the Colts,
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and took me under under his wing as when I
was a scouting assistant. So H love that family, Love
love Matt, love those girls. And we're obviously really heartbroken
for you know, for Quarrel's passing, you know, about a
week and a half and ago. So I wanted to
start off just by you know, acknowledging that and and
and and just letting.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Matt know that our thoughts and prayers are really with you, man.
Speaker 23 (23:32):
So Day three, UH obviously made two selections today, you know,
starting with with Dylan some we knew well from University
of twenty CE Uh, you know, twenty year old running back.
Uh thinks he thinks he really compliments our room nicely,
runs a really tough and physical style. Despite being a
little bit undersize. He's a player who has a plus
makeup and a player that we think has untapped potential
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in the in the passing game. And then you know Shador.
You know, we talk oftentimes about quarterback being the most
important position in the sport. We obviously spend a lot
of time with you or throughout the process. Oh, he's
highly accurate, can play well from the pocket. Uh, you know,
very productive college career, and you know, we felt like
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it wasn't necessarily the plan going into the weekend to
select two quarterbacks. But you know, as we talk about,
we we do believe in best player available, We do
believe in positional value, and you know, we didn't necessarily
expect him to be available in the you know, in
the fifth round, and so we love adding competition to
every position room and adding him to compete with you know,
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the guys that are already in there. We felt like, you know,
that was the appropriate thing to do. So with that,
I'll open it up for questions.
Speaker 11 (24:45):
Yeah, Andrew, this is first for you. Can you just
I mean, this seems like sort of a blockbuster move
for you guys to make at this point. And then
also when we saw your guys' reaction in the UH
in the war room, it just didn't look necessarily exuberant.
So I don't know what we were seeing, but maybe
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you can explain that. And then also like how.
Speaker 20 (25:08):
Did this happen?
Speaker 23 (25:09):
Yeah, I think we're probably just tired from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Those clips.
Speaker 24 (25:15):
It's not timed up to exactly the right I wouldn't
take don't read too much into that, you know, can
you just explain this?
Speaker 11 (25:24):
This is a pretty big deal after everything that happened
with this epic free fall that he had, How did
this happen?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And what.
Speaker 23 (25:35):
I just said the biggest thing for us? You know,
we you know, we live by our board, you know.
We we felt like he was a good, solid prospect
at the most important position. We felt like it got
to a point where he was probably mispriced, you know,
relative to the relative to the draft. You know, really
the acquisition costs is was was pretty light. And it's
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a guy that we think, you know, can out produce
his draft slot. So I wouldn't say it's any more
than that. You know, Mary kay, I think you know
obviously Shador has kind of grown up in the spotlight.
But you know, our expectation is for him to come
in here and work and compete. Nothing's been promised, nothing's
you know, nothing will be given. So you know, I
may you know, hesitate to characterize it as a blockbuster.
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That's not necessarily how we thought of the transaction. But
we are excited to work with him.
Speaker 21 (26:26):
Jeff, both of you. I heard what you just said
about Shador. But isn't this chuck, it's going to come
along with uh? With with this pick, even if it's
not intentional, it seems everything follows him.
Speaker 24 (26:46):
You know, our guys understand, Jeff, when you're in the building,
we're here to work. We don't pay much attention to
what's on the outside.
Speaker 25 (26:55):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
We know we've spent a lot of time with Shador.
We know what he's about.
Speaker 16 (26:58):
Uh.
Speaker 24 (26:58):
He's coming in here to work, just like all of
our other players.
Speaker 16 (27:02):
For both of Kevin and ab either either one of you,
what are the biggest maybe misconceptions about Schador's game in
terms of the way he plays the quarterback position, traits
that sort of thing.
Speaker 23 (27:15):
I can't, Chris, I can't really speak on what other
people think. I can describe how we view him. We
view him as a highly accurate pocket passer. He does
a really good job of protecting the ball. You know,
he has enough of the physical characteristics, whether it's arm
strength or or you know, mobility. Like all young players,
there are things to improve. I think probably much has
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been said about the number of sacks he's taken. Some
of that is environment and some of that is is
his improvement on his end, for sure, but he has
probably a little bit more of a you know, call
it retro or classic style of play. You know, again,
I can't speak to what other how others view.
Speaker 26 (27:55):
Him without devulging maybe too much of the conversations when
you when you did them to to you know, tell
them that you were picking him. Just what was the
message to him and what was maybe his message to
you guys, because I'm sure again it was a disappointing
slide from somebody who expected to get picked early first round.
Speaker 23 (28:11):
I think our message to him, it's it's really all
this is like, look, got to come in, got to
come in and work, and you got to come in
and compete.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
That's the you know, that's the message.
Speaker 23 (28:20):
Nothing's given given the nature of the weekend for him,
you know, relative to let's say external expectation versus what happened.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
You know, we did tell him that it.
Speaker 23 (28:29):
Really doesn't matter where you picked, it's what you do
from that point forward, because that's the reality for all
the guys that we that we selected this weekend. In
terms of his reaction, I'd just say it was probably
a mixture of like, you know, gratitude, relief and determination.
That would probably be the best way to characterize it.
But you know, he's certainly ready to go.
Speaker 27 (28:51):
Andrew, because you guys were, you know, a big player
in the in the quarterback mark, so to speak, and
you did take one in the third round. Why do
you think he fell in the fifth round?
Speaker 23 (29:06):
I can't speak to why the market price of the
way he did. You know, we had our own internal
valuation in terms of how we view the skill set,
you know, and the quality of the player, and once
it got to a point where it felt like it
was at you know, a pretty steep discount, we just
felt like, hey, especially relative to the alternative ways that
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we could use the selection, this made the most.
Speaker 27 (29:30):
Sense and obviously he has an all time great football
player as a father and coach, so you could see
the pros of that.
Speaker 13 (29:41):
You know.
Speaker 27 (29:42):
Also he's got you know, Dion's got a larger than
life personality, you know, a huge platform and a lot
of influence. So how do you view those you know
kind of you know dynamics father son, and do you
think that had anything to do with him being available
in the fifth round?
Speaker 23 (30:01):
Our personal, uh relationship and interactions with you know, with Dion,
that that's really.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Been all positive from our perspective.
Speaker 23 (30:09):
And I mean that organizationally, not just me and Kevin,
but you know, really all of us who have interacted
with Dion and you know, the people out in Colorado.
You know, we don't typically penalize prospects for you know,
their their parents, you know, so to speak. You know,
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so I can't say if that was a factor or
not for you know, for other teams, but that wasn't
a that was not a significant.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Factor for us.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
You said, it became where you could get your dirt
a deep discount. So did the decision to trade for
him and make that pick come together pretty quick?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
It did at some point.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Okay, now was the time to make a move.
Speaker 23 (30:56):
Yeah, I'll be We typically go into Day three with
you know, with the number of names, because that's usually
where the boards across the league they kind of disperse.
You know, we did get a get did get an
early run on some of the players that we were targeting,
and you know, as we thought like the distance that
our last two picks were apart, and the way you know,
we could just kind of maximize those resources between the
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position and how we graded the prospect, we felt.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Like this was it.
Speaker 23 (31:20):
It's maybe a little bit like what I talked about
the top of the draft that I think people think
of a singular pick. It's oftentimes okay, well like who
are you going to select? But there are just so
many different ways that you can use that resource to
improve your team, and so we just try and think
of it broadly.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
And when we evaluated Dylan into or are there similarities
and their strengths that you saw on both of the skids.
Speaker 24 (31:41):
I'd say for sure, I think you know, what did
we talk about all pre draft accuracy decision making? Uh So,
I think that's strength of both of those young men.
Speaker 12 (31:52):
Andrew, do you find anything odd with the fact that
you traded away Travis Hunter and traded for Shader Sanders.
Speaker 23 (32:00):
I guess I never really thought of it, you know
that way Tony to you mention it, so I'll be honest,
I had not really given any of thought.
Speaker 12 (32:08):
Uh, we saw Jimmy right behind you. Guys, were you
encouraged by the owner to make this move?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Jimmy, lets us do our jobs. Yeah, Jimmy, lets us
do our jobs.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I got to go back to the Dylan Gabriel pick here,
when you say that you didn't expect to take two
quarterbacks in this draft?
Speaker 5 (32:34):
What was it about?
Speaker 7 (32:35):
We get the Shador thing, but what was about him
and then ultimately shau Door here? It compelled you to
alter your plan in what feels like a pretty dramatic
way here.
Speaker 23 (32:48):
I guess we wouldn't necessarily characterize it as dramatic, Darrel.
I think, you know, just like I could probably say
the plan wasn't necessary to take two running backs, Like
you envision how the draft could possibly play out, and
then you just really adjust to what's on the what's
on the board, And like I said, like we don't
really go into the draft saying okay, like hey, here
are our needs and we're just gonna pick player like
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at neat positions.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
If you do that, that's typically how you make mistakes.
Speaker 23 (33:11):
So there is a little bit of a flow to
the to the weekend because the board does take different
twists and turns as you go, some expected, some unexpected,
and ultimately we try and do everything in our power
to maximize the impact of the picks we have in aggregate,
and part of the reason you have to do that
is being flexible.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
And then for Kevin, the rep chart in training camp,
I think just got divided again. So now it's four.
How much are you looking forward to to navigating trying
to get four guys, not only a fair shake at it,
but also at the same time you're gonna be trying
to get ready for a football season.
Speaker 24 (33:53):
Yeah, we've talked about. I mean, there's ways to do both,
I think, Daryl, obviously you may not divide them twenty five,
twenty five, twenty five, but we feel really confident that
we'll have a plan that is fair to each player
and fair to the team as well.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Hey, guys, just to make it clear, I know we've
asked you this basically some version of it with every
new quarterback that's come into this room, But Andrew. You know,
you said, nothing's going to be given to him, but
will he have a chance to compete for the starting
job here?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
We expect every player to compete simple a set.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
And then just the narrative with him, like the outside narrative.
Seeing how people were talking about him throughout the draft process,
people kept pointing out the interviews with him. What was
your guys experience like with that?
Speaker 23 (34:35):
Yeah, it was, it was, It was positive. Actually, you know,
the interviews there, they're a small piece of it.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
You know.
Speaker 23 (34:40):
We we certainly do rely a lot more heavily, you
know on our reference work for people who have you know,
been with the prospect for two, three, four years at
the schools. That's you know, that's better. I think, you know,
I think you know. James Gladstone commented on this a
little bit ins pre draft pressure, like the idea that
you know, in a singular inner view session you can
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discern something that someone else would know from interacting with
a ninja of individual for four years.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
We also do subscribe to that notion.
Speaker 23 (35:08):
Now, quarterbacks are a little bit different, as you like,
push and prod on the mental aspect, and you know
that's something that we really lean on our coaching staff
to ascertain throughout the spring, but you know, his interactions
with us were.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Positive from Eugene to Boulder and back or even back here.
Did you ever entertain this scenario that these would be
the two?
Speaker 23 (35:30):
I mean, honestly, Zach probably kept a pretty open mind,
Like I didn't know exactly how it would go at
that point. At that point, we were just really working
through to make sure that we could get to know
the players and the people as well as.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Possible for both of you.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
Guys have talked about the importance of the cultural fit
of these guys. So for Shadoor, how do you envision
that going? What enticed you to come back and get
him in terms of that the fit as him as
a person?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
I think Shador.
Speaker 23 (36:08):
You know, he is uh probably a little bit opposite
in terms of his personality of his dad, you know,
obviously a little bit a little bit quieter, a little
bit more introverted.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
But you know, we felt we felt good with him.
We felt good with him as a person.
Speaker 23 (36:22):
You know, he works hard, he's a really good kid,
he wants to be great. His teammates, you know, loved
him in Colorado, and you know, I know he'll he'll
come in here ready to work. You know, I'm ready
to try and put his best foot forward in all
areas of competition.
Speaker 11 (36:39):
I know you guys are crazy busy in the war
room and you don't have time to pay attention to
a lot of the things that are going on. But
were you aware at all that that Shador received like
a really nasty prank call during during the draft and
and so I'm just wondering. I know you guys got
to know him really well, you developed an affinity for him.
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Can you just addressed your reaction today.
Speaker 24 (37:02):
Would be my reaction to that. I mean, it's sad
that these young men have to deal with this. That
happened a lot in the green room and Green Bay
guys were getting calls, So it's silly.
Speaker 11 (37:12):
But onward and upward, and knowing Shador as well as
you got to know him, do you feel like you
know he'll kind of be able to overcome or bounce
back the adversity of what happened this draft weekend and
kind of get his head back on and march forward.
Speaker 24 (37:31):
Yeah, Like I think all of our guys, I think
every player when they come into the draft knows what
number they were picked or if they were unpicked, and
you can use that as motivation. We don't care once
they walk in the doors. Don't care first round pick,
seventh round pick, undrafted. Once you're here and you're on
our football team, you're a part of this culture. You're
part of this family, and we're just going to get
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you know, keep our head down and get to work.
Speaker 27 (37:55):
Andrew, because you know you didn't you said you didn't
necessarily expect him to be where he.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Was, so you're having to pivot. So did you like come.
Speaker 27 (38:04):
Into the building today thinking like if he's available in
round five, we're gonna make make a move for him,
or like it was it in real time or like
how did how did all that go down?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Question? Yeah?
Speaker 23 (38:15):
No, it was something you know, going in to day
through the draft with him still on the board, it
was I thought like, okay, well, you know, depending on
how far he goes like that'd be something that we
would be interested in and and potentially taking them off
the taking them off the board, so you know, once
and and in fairness, like some of that is relative
to what else is available to you from a from
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a prospect standpoint, And so as the names kept you know,
coming off the board and we saw how we were positioned,
you know, we just felt like the value was there.
Speaker 21 (38:51):
This is just a book keeping when I know you're
not gonna directly answer it, but Kenny Pickett, do you
have to do you decide in May whether that pick
up that fifth year option or how does that work.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
So that that would have been last year with Phil?
Speaker 23 (39:04):
You have to make that decision after year three since
he's already in year four, that's not a decision that
we make.
Speaker 16 (39:09):
Yeah, you take two running backs quin Sean and UH
and Dylan. Is it fair to assume or or would
it be fair to assume that what that means to Uh,
to Nick's potential future with with the franchise as a
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potential you're resigning.
Speaker 23 (39:30):
Chris the question, Chris, I'd say, you know, not necessarily.
But you know the complexion of our running back room
has changed this weekend and so as we you know,
work through the you know on drafted free agency process,
you know, maybe take a breath on Sunday, you know,
we'll reassess kind of where the roster is and and
what opportunities are available to us, you know, on the
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veteran market and then we'll operate from there.
Speaker 17 (39:54):
Andrew, I think there was at least some thought that
you guys might target or try to find wide receiver
in this this weekend there in the draft. Would you
sort of say at this point that's an area you
feel is still a work in progress in terms of
maybe you're going to address it in the weeks ahead.
Speaker 23 (40:10):
Whole roster is a work in progress, So any opportunity
that we can use to improve it, you know, we'll
look into.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Finally, it's the newest member of the Cleveland Browns Colorado quarterbacks,
Shadeur Sanders, who discussed the opportunity to learn in this
room of quarterbacks and even compete for the starting job.
Speaker 11 (40:29):
High shudor congratulations on becoming a Cleveland brown first of all,
but just wanted to ask you, can you please put
into words somehow just the emotional roller coaster that you
have been on since the first day of this draft
and waiting for this to happen, including you know, a
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nasty prant call that everyone can agree was a horrible thing,
to finally getting that phone call from the Browns and
jumping in the pool.
Speaker 13 (41:01):
Yeah, I would say I'm extremely grateful for the opportunity
throughout everything. I don't ever focus on the negative or
even think about the negative because the positive happened so fast,
and you know, it's a change of emotions. For me,
it was just playing quarterback. That's what it's about. You
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gotta you can't be up to too low or anything.
You gotta be able to celebrate. So we like when
we score testdown, we celebrate for a little bit. Now
it's back to time to work, it's time to go.
So that's all it is is a football game to me,
and that's how I view it. That's my personality is
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I always stay I would say level through adversity and
level through everything any situation I'm faced with because I
know what it's gonna require for me to come out
on top.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
HI should word.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
This is Ashley Bassak from Cleveland dot Com. I wanted
to talk to you about that because I know you
bring up how adversity fuels you a lot. So, I
mean just knowing so many analysts had you pegged as
first or second round talent to fall to Day three,
how is going when you went in the draft going
to motivate you think going forward in your NFL career?
Speaker 13 (42:17):
Yeah, I don't feel like I feel like talent is
everywhere throughout the draft. It's about just being picked and
who and who sees your value. That's that's pretty much it,
because it's a lot of valuable players that go, you know,
in the rounds after the first and second. So I'm
a product of one of those and I understand you
(42:39):
can't really categorize. I'll say my talent. I just got
to prove and show what I'm capable of, but refused
me as my purpose in life and understanding the route
that that's now that we're gonna have to take. Understanding
that I was able to get an opportunity and a
(43:00):
lot of people didn't want to give me an opportunity.
So that's what I'm truly thankful for to that, that's
what fuels me.
Speaker 26 (43:10):
Hey share This is Daniel Yfusi with ESPN. I just
wanted to get your thoughts on specifically coming to Cleveland
to play for the Browns. I know that this was
an organization that you spend a lot of time with
during the pre draft process, and now it's official that
you are coming here, but maybe a little later than
you expected. So how do you think you're gonna fit
in with this team and with this organization.
Speaker 13 (43:30):
I know I'm gonna fit in perfectly. I feel like
it's first getting in, showing the respect to the vets,
showing them you know, I'm here ready to work, show
the coaches and have them understand you know, I'm here
ready to work, so they could actually understand the real me.
(43:51):
That's that's what I'm truly thankful to have, is an
opportunity for people to actually see the real me and
not be able to see, you know, stuff that could
be true or not. So that's what I'm most excited
about being in the building, and of course in the
staff and on the staff and the cafetia, everything was
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extremely the people that were genue and it was real cool.
So I left that visit h knowing that if that
was the place for me, I would feel real comfortable
with what they have in place.
Speaker 16 (44:30):
Hey shout, Christie Stroming, I can beak in journal. I
know You've been asked a million questions about your dad
over the years, but you know, obviously his experience and
in this specific business and in pro football. As you
were going through the last couple of days and going
through this, you know you know, seeing kind of waiting
(44:51):
your turn, waiting for your name. What was sort of
his advice to you? Did Was there anything he sort
of said to you or we're things sort of understood,
just you know, between you and him, you know, just
about what was going on.
Speaker 13 (45:06):
He said, God got it. So that's that's what it is.
I look at what went on, and everything is a
football game. You know, you may not you may not
come out fairly hot. You know, you may that may
may not happen, but you know, when it's down to
the final two minutes of the game, then you understand
(45:28):
the level of seriousness raises the stake, all the stakes raised,
and that's why I thrive in those high pressure moments.
So I never felt any type of way. I never
felt any type of way. I understood, Okay, this is
the route and that's it.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
She did it with that.
Speaker 21 (45:50):
What kind of burden was it being the son of
Dion and that you were not just just a regular
player here in college football.
Speaker 13 (46:00):
Well, it's never a burden. It's never burden. I wouldn't
I wouldn't look at that as that. I feel like everybody.
God makes everybody have their own routes, and this is
just my route, Like there's nothing I would be able
to go back and wish I wasn't uh, wish that
wasn't my dad, because I'm too thankful for and being
there and the structure I have, So it's never really
(46:28):
a burden. I just I just find it. You know
that other kids in similar situations, I want them to
be proud of what their fathers and what they have accomplished,
so then you could carry on a legacy, carry on
the family name, and not really be trying to feel
ashamed about it. I don't like when people make people
feel ashamed about it.
Speaker 8 (46:52):
Should or a cameraon Justice News by Cleveland here. You're
going to get in here and I just get to
work in a couple of weeks. Rookie Minnie camp, what's
your mindset heading into this organization with that mini camp
around the corner and the anticipated quarterback competition for that
starting role in this upcoming season.
Speaker 13 (47:09):
Get there and handle my business, do what I have
to do, whatever role that is. You know, I'm just
thankful for opportunities. So that's all I could ask for.
The rest is on me.
Speaker 27 (47:22):
Histre do or congratulations. You said earlier that you want
people here with the Browns to see the real you.
You're coming to a new franchise and fan base and city,
So what can you tell people about what they will see?
Speaker 5 (47:37):
What is the real you?
Speaker 13 (47:41):
The real me? I'm definitely gonna be able to show
with actions actions more and you'll understand. I'll be more
involved in, you know, the community and really the leading
the kids in the right direction. That's the main thing.
And whatever situation they're in, that's really where I feel
like I have the most impact on. It's really the
(48:01):
kids and giving them, you know, a different perspective of
respect parents, respect their elders, and respect those people that
are in position to give you advice, so that that's
where you'll see the most impact there. And of course
within the building, and you know, just making sure everybody
(48:23):
is comfortable with whatever situation anything is. So that's how
I make everybody feel comfortable. And then understand, I'm not,
you know, just here to talk about it. I'm here
to prove it.
Speaker 25 (48:35):
I'm sure, Door, you've been around the game a long
time and you know, learning of the business.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
Especially through your father.
Speaker 25 (48:43):
And while you know you've said everything that you've kept
the faith, does your experience the last couple of days
maybe change your outlook on the business of football or
how things are done behind the scenes.
Speaker 13 (48:53):
No, nothing really affected me the last couple of last
couple of days, you know, to just really push having
faith and understanding. You know, God really had me and
I'm favored. I'm blessed. Besides, that is not really anything
that changes. The love of the game is to the
game when you get on the field. It wasn't too much,
(49:14):
you know, negativity being said. I know I got to
clean up some things in my game for me to
be at my best. But that's what I take each
off season, one at a time and fix me. You know.
So I think I think that was just outside of
football getting in the way. But therefore I have an
(49:35):
opportunity now then I'll be and we're about to get
on grass really soon.
Speaker 17 (49:42):
Hey should congratulations as a spencer German Cleveland Brown's on SI.
Just throughout how this entire process, You've been pretty open about,
you know, some of the comments made about you and
different things that have been said.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
So given how that all.
Speaker 17 (49:57):
Went, given how this weekend went, going to the fifth ride,
like do you come into the league feeling like you
have a lot to prove, even though you try to
stay pretty positive and above the negativity.
Speaker 13 (50:07):
Yeah, of course, it is the main thing. I'm just proving.
I'm just proving my I'm just proving coach t VNSK
and mister Barrier that they are right. That's it. They're
right about picking me. I'm a good decision. I'm a
good draft pick for them to be able to come
(50:28):
in there and do what I need to do.
Speaker 6 (50:32):
Should or do you have any regrets about anything in
the pre draft process?
Speaker 13 (50:37):
Do I have any regrets? I feel like in life
it's always the way I can improve, So it's always
in different areas I'm able to improve. And some things
that you know I could have done at the time
that seemed right at the time, I could have went
about it a different way, and that that's like more
(50:59):
during season and stuff like that.
Speaker 22 (51:04):
Yeah, should or justin Cooper here ESPN Cleland, he wanted
to ask you what that moment was like between you
and your dad. Obviously you wanted to go higher up
in the in the draft, but weren't able to do that.
And after following, I'm sure it was probably relief. And
what was that like for you two and what was
the embrace like.
Speaker 13 (51:27):
Uh, I don't know if me and Dad hugged, but
it was more just understanding that the main thing is
just getting the opportunity. That's why I preach on that.
That's why I stand on that, because that's that was
my main goal. After we watched, you know, the first
second round go by, and my name wasn't called or
anything else. Okay, all we need is opportunity, So we
(51:51):
really didn't. It really didn't matter what pick, what round
could have went.
Speaker 7 (51:54):
Anything should order Ryder from ninety two three to the
fan everywhere you've gone in foot while, you've been able
to turn around and elevate programs. What is it about
you that gives you that ability? And I know, being
a fifth round pick, those expectations might not be fair
in this particular moment. But also what would it mean
for you to come to Cleveland and potentially work your
way into becoming this franchise's long lost franchise quarterback.
Speaker 13 (52:20):
I'm a senders, so it's only gonna be expectations in
regardless of what pick I am.
Speaker 11 (52:27):
Shudort, you mentioned that nothing has bothered you over the
past couple of days. I actually have two questions real
quick The first question is did that prank phone call?
Did that not get to you or how do you
feel about the person who did that to you? And
what impact did that have on you when that happened today?
Speaker 13 (52:51):
It don't really have no impact on me because this
is like, I mean, okay, let's man, I don't.
Speaker 7 (52:56):
I don't.
Speaker 13 (52:57):
I don't feed into negativity or I don't feel it
into that stuff like you've you've seen on deon Jamie
as well of YouTube video my reaction to it.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
I don't.
Speaker 13 (53:11):
This is what it is. I think. I think, of
course the child is of course I feel like it
was a childish act. But everybody do childish things here
and there, so okay.
Speaker 11 (53:24):
And then my second question is there there was a
lot of talk throughout the pre draft process that you were,
you know, brash and arrogant and that you were not
interviewing well and you weren't coming off right in some
of those interviews. Do you feel like it did that,
(53:48):
Did any of those things actually happen and do you
think that that is what cost you some draft status.
Speaker 13 (53:59):
I think what happen from I had a great interview
in great process with the Browns, and that's why he
was able to pick me. So anything outside the organization
isn't really is really a non factor to me now
because this is my focus and this is what my
mind is, is doing everything I can to make the
(54:20):
team better. So everything outside of that, it doesn't really
the opinions don't really matter.
Speaker 12 (54:28):
Should there When the Browns drafted Dylan Gabriel yesterday, did
you think it was possible you'd end up in Cleveland?
Speaker 13 (54:36):
No, I wasn't really watching at that point in time.
Speaker 22 (54:39):
Should or as you look at this Browns roster, what
gets you excited when you look at the offensive side
of the ball?
Speaker 13 (54:48):
I would say the system, the offense, I would say,
the receivers, running backs, I would say the old line.
It's really it's really I want to be able to
get in there and meet all these different personalities and
even the corner even even dzel War I was pretty cool.
He reached out and Kenny reached out too. So it's
(55:11):
really just getting around the people and being able to
live in the building. Uh, I don't know. Me and
Dad hugged, but it was more of just understanding that
the main thing is just getting the opportunity. That's why
I preach on that That's why I stand on that,
because that's that was my main goal. After we watched
(55:31):
you know, the first second round go by and my
name wasn't called or anything else. Okay, all we need
is opportunity, So we really didn't. It really didn't matter
what pick around could have win anything.
Speaker 7 (55:47):
Schugordero Ryder from ninety two three to the fan. Everywhere
you've gone in football, you've been able to turn around
and elevate programs.
Speaker 5 (55:53):
What is it about you that gives you that ability?
Speaker 7 (55:55):
And I know, being a fifth round pick, those expectations
might not be fair in this particular moment. But also
what would it mean for you to come to Cleveland
and potentially work your way into becoming this franchise's long
lost franchise quarterback.
Speaker 13 (56:11):
I'm a Sanders, so it's only gonna be expectations in
regardless of what pick I am should ort.
Speaker 11 (56:19):
You mentioned that nothing has bothered you over the past
couple of days. I actually have two questions real quick.
The first question is did that prank phone call? Did
that not get to you? Or how do you feel
about the person who did that to you? And what
impact did that have on you? When that happened today
(56:41):
that it.
Speaker 13 (56:41):
Don't really have no impact on me because this is like,
I mean, okay, let's I don't. I don't. I don't
feed into negativity or I don't feed into that stuff
like you've you've seen on Deon Jenior as well off
YouTube video Myria to it. I don't. This is what
(57:02):
it is. I think. I think, of course the childish.
Of course I feel like it was a childish act.
But everybody do childish things here and there, So.
Speaker 24 (57:14):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (57:15):
And then my second question is there there was a
lot of talk throughout the pre draft process that you were,
you know, brash and arrogant, and that you were not
interviewing well and you weren't coming off right in some
of those interviews. Do you feel like it did that,
(57:38):
Did any of those things actually happen and do you
think that that is what cost you some draft status.
Speaker 13 (57:49):
I think what happened was I had a great interview
in great process with the Browns, and that's why it
was able to pick me. So anything outside the organization
isn't really is really a non factor to me now
because this was my focus and this is what my
mind is is doing everything I can to make this
(58:10):
team better. So everything outside of that, it doesn't really
the opinions don't really matter.
Speaker 12 (58:18):
Should there When the Browns drafted Dylan Gabriel yesterday, did
you think it was possible you'd end up in Cleveland?
Speaker 2 (58:27):
No?
Speaker 13 (58:27):
I wasn't really watching at that point in time.
Speaker 22 (58:30):
Should or as you look at this Browns roster? What
gets you excited when you look at the offensive side
of the ball?
Speaker 13 (58:38):
I would say the system, the offense. I would say
the receivers, running backs, I would say the old line.
It's really it's really I want to be able to
get in there and meet all these different personalities and
even the corner even even even Denzel war I was
pretty cool. He reached out and and Kenny reached out too.
(59:01):
So it's really just getting around the people and being
able to live in the building.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
That'll do it. For this episode of the From the
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