April 17, 2025 • 28 mins
On this episode of From the Podium, hear GM/EVP Andrew Berry at his pre-draft press conference.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to a special off season edition of the from
the Podium podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Gabe Killa.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We are officially one week out from the twenty twenty
five NFL Draft in Green Bay. On this episode, you'll
hear from Brown's executive vice president and general manager Andrew
Berry on some of the prospects in the twenty twenty
five NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Let's get right into it.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Here is Andrew Berry.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Okay, so next week's pretty exciting for our team. We
get our players back in the building. You know, obviously
draft weekend approaching where at least as we sit here today,
can add ten you know, rookie players to the roster
or drafted rookie players to the roster. So you know,
we're pretty pumped as we go into as we go
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into next week. As I always do it, this time,
I wanted to, uh, you'll really thank our college scouts
who make a number of sacrifices over the calendar year,
spend a ton of time away from their family, living
out a ho tells, you know, really beating the bushes
for prospects, getting to know them as players and people,
and and it's it's a bit of a thankless job
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right there.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
They don't get a ton of credit, which is a
big reason why on draft weekend we like to bring
them out here to talk to you about the guys
that we've picked, you know, so you can hear from them,
understand why we value their opinion so highly, and they
get a little bit of a little bit of credit,
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Of notoriety for the work that they've been doing.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'd also like to to thank you know, Glenn Cook,
Max Paulus, Meghan Rock for their for their management of
the process. Of course, you know, Catherine Hickman and Andrew
Healy for you know, their their work and all of
our big decisions, you know, joy to pie check and
uh Kathleen would for their work in terms of our
security and and legal and and player background. You know,
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all those those individuals you know contribute above and beyond.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So we're excited, we're ready to go. And with that,
I'll open up for questions.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I spoke to at the leading meetings about draft strategy.
So you know, after the prods kind of come together,
you formally draft strategy with all signs pointing to the
Titans taking cam wred. Do you have that draft strategy
and plan, you know, if that was to happen.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
So a big part is a big part of this,
you know, this week and then going into next week
is what we call scenario planning and strategy planning. So
we're really right in the thick of it, you know, Daniel.
And that's not to say that you know, there hasn't
been any thought of it at this point. You know,
that would be disingenuous. But uh, you know, we're we'll
use the whole shot clock, so to speak. You know,
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we don't have to make start making decisions until you know,
really Thursday night. Uh, And so we'll use all the
time afforded to us, and you know, make sure that
we have a thorough plan depending on you know, what
happens at number one.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
See uh Hunter you know, uh, I guess talking about
wanting to play basically all the time.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
And how how do you see him?
Speaker 7 (03:05):
What about that?
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Is it practical in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So I think one of the things that is like
you can't probably fully appreciate until you actually see Travis
play live is just his elite conditioning, like you know,
going out and seeing him play a you know, a
Colorado he I mean, he really never comes off the
field and and it's it's it's unbelievable because like you know,
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there are more plays in a college game then there
is a there is a pro game, and it's like
the guy like he barely pants like that, you know,
like that the thing. So it's it's it's quite incredible.
You know that being said, you know, what he would
attempt to do has not you know, been really done
in our league. But we wouldn't necessarily put a cap
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or a governor in terms of like what he could do.
You know, we would want to be smart in terms
of how we how we started out. You know, I
think I've mentioned before, you know we would see his
his first home as receiver in a second home, you know,
on the defenseid of the ball.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, I think I think, you know, one of the
big things.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
What he has a number of rare qualities, but probably
the rarest is his ability with the ball, his ball skills.
And you know, we would want to put him in
a position that that maximized that ability.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Okay, good, quite forgot it.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Would you be concerned about the pounding, like the physical
pounding at the aerobic part, but you know that taking
the hits on both sides the ball if he played
on both.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Sides for you, Yeah, I think anytime a player across
you know, cross positions plays more snaps, you know, there
certainly is more of that risk.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
That being said, you know, playing on the perimeter positions,
there's maybe a little bit less contact than there would
be as you get closer to the ball. But it's
something that like, you know, look, thirty two teams are
going to would have to figure that out as they
think through his through and through his profile, and you
know there would be some probably like learning on the
fly if if he were here.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
He has to play on both sides to be worth
that number two pick, because that's kind of how he's
viewed as a guy that can do both versus.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Just his one side or the other. No, I don't,
I don't see it that way. I think it's and
I'm gonna use a crossboard now. It's a little bit
like Otani right where you know, when he's playing one side,
he's he's an outstanding player. If he's if he's a pitcher,
he's a hitter, he's an outstanding player. You obviously get
a unicorn if you use them both ways. Yeah, I
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guess without getting in too much into the specific planning,
because you know, he's he's out here, like you know,
we have a decision. But you know, that's something that's
also unique, and it's something that, like I said, every
team across the league would would have to figure out.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
The snaps you have in the college game, especially he
played compared to the number of snaps at the NFL level,
is that something that you know could benefit him, you know,
even you know, the lesser number of snaps maybe in
an average about means.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I think it's possible, But I think to speak with
any level of certainty, it's tough because it is it
would be new territory, you know, for whatever whatever team
acquired them.
Speaker 9 (06:15):
Developing your strategy, do you have.
Speaker 10 (06:19):
Specific people in your office assigned to specific teams to
try to gauge what they're up to and what they
might offer in a trade to jump ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
At a certain point. That's a good question, Tony.
Speaker 11 (06:33):
So I.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So obviously we have a pro scouting staff that it's
I'd say the probably the best way to describe it
is no different than we have area scouts who we
say you have to be experts in your area, know
your schools. You know, with our pro group, you know,
they have to know their teams inside and out. So
in terms of call it the the research aspect, in
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terms of you know, how they think about the roster,
you know, tendencies with you know, with the coaching staff
or the GM or whatever, that would largely reside reside
with our you know, our pro scouting staff as well
as our research and strategy group in terms of you know,
discussions or increase you know, things like that that would
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be that would be more.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
With our executive group division.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Uh, let's say, let's say loosely, like loosely it doesn't
maybe quite work out that that cleanly, but but loosely speaking.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's probably a good way to think about it.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Travis.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I'll go here, how much of the way you do
Travis positionally is positional value versus what you think he
is better at?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Just what do we think he's better in?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
He's great at both, Like I want to be clear,
he's great at both, because I think that got a
little bit uh unfair traction last time I talked about this.
Speaker 10 (07:50):
So weake of you guys going out to Colorado.
Speaker 12 (07:53):
It seems like within the next day everyone in the
whole country was Browns are taking Travis Hunter off the trail.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It's funny how that works out, and maybe.
Speaker 12 (08:06):
Off the Abdul Carter set as well. So is that
an accurate perception of where you guys are right now?
Are you off of Schador, off of Abdul and.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Focusing It's like why I mentioned with Daniel, we're we're
still working through everything. You know, we have not made
a hard decision in terms of, you know, how we're
gonna utilize the the number two pick. There are a
number of guys that we like, you know, our travels,
they were, uh, the logical touch points that you would
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make for all prospects who are worthy of being consideration
that high in the draft, and that's just happened to be.
I think maybe a lot of times Mary Kaye just
becomes like the last place that you stopped.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But but we're still working through everything.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Would there's there's a there's a chance that all options
are on the war Maybe I should say.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
That you have the combine.
Speaker 13 (09:02):
I know as a whole you talked about this quarterback
class and feeling like there are guys there who can
be really good NFL players. I guess now that you're
through the combine, you're through these pro days, Like, do
you still feel like there are multiple guys with starting
potential in this league that that could be helpful to
this team?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I do, Actually, I think.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You know, we were actually talking about this yesterday and
one of our strategy sessions. Actually, Daniel as you're on
your phone, But I'm give you a hard time. I've
given you a hard time. I'm given you a hard
time that I think that a lot of the quarterback
position is, you know, the environment that you put the
individual in. You know, whether that's what teammates s grammatically,
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what you asked them to do and honestly what you
asked them to do early in their career. And I
think you're starting to see it more and more across
the league that quarterbacks can produce in a number of
different ways.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You know, the way that Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Produces is a lot different than the way that Rock
Party produces. You know, the way that the system that
Too runs is a lot different than the system that
Lamar Jackson runs. And you know, I think it's of
great importance for any organization bringing in a quarterback to
understanding what that individual does well and how you both
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build build an offense and design a scheme to accentuate
that individual strength, because I think as long as they
have a level of baseline talent, you can have a
productive player at the position as long as you're thoughtful
in terms of building.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
The environment around him. Every team has its own first
round pick right now. That's rare.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Is it just happened that way or do you think
teams just don't want to give them up.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I think it just happened that way. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:40):
Identifying the quarterback you want and when to take the
biggest challenge of.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Your draft, I don't know that I would necessarily put
it that way, Tony. Obviously quarterbacks the most important position.
I think the biggest thing that we're thinking about going
into this draft is really just adding good player and
good prospects, you know, not overthinking that way, Like, can't
I say you dictate the draft, although certainly you have
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more influence when you're picking as high as we are
this year, But we're really just looking at good players.
Speaker 13 (11:15):
How much does your plans and what you've already done
in free agency shape what you're doing in the draft,
and then vice versa.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
How much will the draft then go into your plans
for free agency.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
There is there is some interplay.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I wouldn't say that it's it's one that drives the other,
but it could influence the level of investment that you
would make at a certain position once you get to
get to April. But that being said, depending on how
the draft falls, our goal and our thought process is
making sure that we can add as many players that
we think can be, you know, very high quality long
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term contributors. And you know, sometimes you know that may
not be like you know in a parent you know
need or an apparent uh or maybe like an obvious
pick at the spot, but just the player is too
good to pass up.
Speaker 11 (12:06):
In this quarterback classes, it's not as strong as your
typical quarterback classes, and not asking if you feel that way,
but does bring it back Joe Flacco give you more
latitude maybe to look at a guy through a more
of a long term lens, like a developmental lens. You
know you can bring you can draft someone in the
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middle rounds that you can develop and just kind of
have Joe keep the seat warm, as opposed to having
the urgency of finding that guy in this draft and
getting him on the field as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I wouldn't say that that's the case at all, Darryl,
Like we wouldn't consider, you know, signing Joe as having
any real impact in terms of how we would view
taking a quarterback in the draft. You know, we firmly
believe that it's not about picking a player who's you know,
ready to contribute now. It's about trying to find the
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player that you think is going to be the best
if you have access to that to that player.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
You know, look, I think you can think about uh,
you know, Patrick Mahomes sat his whole first year. You know,
Josh Allen, it really took to year three for him
to to become Josh Allen. You know, Lamar probably hit
the ground running pretty quickly. You know Jalen Hurts like
there were there were doubts about him until he probably
hit year three. So quarterbacks mature and grow at their
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own pace. And our thought isn't in terms of immediacy,
but making the next long term bet.
Speaker 14 (13:36):
What do you think, Andrew, What do you do you
make of Travis Hunter's comments earlier this week about not
playing football if you can't play both sides of the pond.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
How does that affect your strategy?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
It really doesn't.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Yeah, calculating the value of moving on let's just say
from thirty three into the first round. Are you making
those calculations right now so that on a knight of
the draft you'll know how far you want to go
if you want.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So that's something that we actually have, I guess call
it like living, breathing kind of market value, so to speak.
So that's it's it's it's not something that we have
to like re call it, like retabulate necessarily every year, Tony.
We generally know like the pricing if you want to move,
if you want to move up, or what you would
receive if you move back.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But yeah, certainly that comes.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Into play with with with any of those decisions as
you get on the clock.
Speaker 11 (14:30):
When when it comes to the quarterback position, there's always
so much said about, you.
Speaker 15 (14:33):
Know, this year's class versus next year's class and sort
of comparing how teams are already sort of projecting ahead.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I guess I'm just curious from your guys' perspective, and
I'm not.
Speaker 15 (14:42):
It could be this year, but it could be future years.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Too, Like how do you guys, how much.
Speaker 11 (14:47):
Evaluation can actually happen and go.
Speaker 15 (14:49):
On in terms of like what's to come in future
years at that position to allow you guys to make
the best decision on what you.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Want to do, like how much are you actually waiting?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So we do, you know, particularly with quarterback, we do
look at those classes two years at a time as
opposed to one year at a time. So it is
something that we think about. But there's also a lot
that changes from year to year, so it's it's not
like it's not like that can necessarily be be set
in stone.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Players take a step forward in their growth, some take
a step back, and some come out of nowhere. So
you can't necessarily use that as a hard and fast rule,
but it is something.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That that we like to have you I like to
think about in the background.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
How do you I'm j okay, you expect him to
be here next in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, so again, you know j O case timeline. I
think I mentioned the last time. It is a bit nebulous.
He is progressing, you know, But again, right now, I
don't have necessarily like a definitive date for you, Jeff.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
You brought in Joe now and you have to get
the thought process between putting those two together. As your
veteran guys, how are you going to run like.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Who starts or whatever?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, so I'll answer your second question first, Terry. You know,
it's about breeding competition and you know, whatever that room
looks like as we go into the spring and then
probably most importantly training camp. You know, all those individuals
will have a chance to.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Compete to be the starter. Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
In terms of in terms of Joe versus Kenny, you know,
Joe I kind of mentioned earlier. You know, he can
he can fit a number of different spots in the room.
We obviously know him well. He's an excellent play action passer,
you know, you know, we fund he functions kind of
in our you know, in our system with Kenny younger,
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guy mobile, very smart, protects the ball. I think there's
more you know, physical ability in him. A guy we
did a lot of work on, you know, in that
you know, in that draft process, and obviously you know,
saw him twice a year when he was in when
he was in Pittsburgh, and so we think there's you know,
there's there's there's more to get out of them.
Speaker 9 (17:05):
There, Carter, that run worked out or done much since
the season ended.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
What is your understanding of this availability or an off
season day.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, I'd say more generally, Tony. You know, our.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Medical staff is is not necessarily concerned about, you know,
any any health risks with him.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Do you feel like you need to come out of
this draft with your long term answer going back?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Or is that something that I.
Speaker 13 (17:34):
If you guys don't find that guy, you'd be willing
to address later.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, Dan, I think the biggest thing for us is
we want to have, you know, long term players across
the roster. You know, we're not gonna necessarily for something
if we if we don't think you know, the values
right or anything along those lines, But we want to
be thoughtful and discipline and our decision making.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Between picks.
Speaker 16 (17:58):
Plays you like to off the board, but the quarterback
do you feel more dangerous if the longer you wait,
just because there's fewer of them? So whether it's two
to thirty three or thirty three to sixty seven that
if you don't take one, then you know the guys
you like may.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Be gone, Uh not really, Scott, like I think, I
think it certainly depends on the player, right, and it
depends on where you're picking, you know, but we don't
necessarily we won't pick based on panic.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I guess maybe that's the way of characterising it.
Speaker 12 (18:28):
I'm in addition to shador On, some of the other
quarterbacks such as Jalen Jameson Tyler. Uh, do you envision
that one of those guys would have just as good
a chance to come in here and start.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
As shador I think that's hard to say, Mary Kay,
you know, I think that it just the reality is,
like every situation is different. Every player, you know, acclimates
you know differently. Like I think back to it was
this twenty I'm gonna say twenty three, and you look
at you know Bryce, and you know bryceon CJ. Bryce
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had played a lot of football and played at SEC
at Alabama. It took him a little bit of time
to get a sea legs in Carolina, whereas like with CJ,
you know, there were probably more questions about him going
to process and he hit the ground running. So I
just think there are there are plenty of those examples
where you really just don't know how they'll how they'll transition,
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and why it's important to have patients at the position.
Speaker 12 (19:28):
More privates with anybody between now and draft day.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
No, we will not.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Think.
Speaker 10 (19:34):
I don't think you've drafted a player over the age
of twenty five. So why is Tyler Shuck of interest
to you?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know, tell you So, I think one, it's probably
rare to have players come into the draft that are
twenty five or older. So I think that that's one,
it's probably a little bit of like a selection bias.
And two, you know, age is certainly a part of
the equation, but it's not it's not like some type
of end a you all.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It just adds context to the performance.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
And so like I, you know, I wouldn't like it's
a factor, but I wouldn't say it's it's like there's
any hard and fast.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Rule process would bringing flag go back?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yes, So it's what I mentioned with Darryl earlier. You know,
we we know Joe he fits in the system. You know,
we think he's a quarterback that can fit in any
of the the spots of the QB room. You know,
whether he's a short term starter, you know, whether he's
in the backup quarterback role. You know, he's excellent and
he certainly fit you know, our kind of like our
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resource allocation from a roster planning standpoint.
Speaker 11 (20:34):
With Jaylen Bilro how much with having Tommy in the
building helps with that evaluation and.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
That helps a lot, Like I mean, for to have
you know, r O C. Having been at Alabama with
him for a full year, calling place for him, you know,
knowing his strengths and weaknesses, it helps a lot.
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Five top four picks of this draft. How much pressure
sure is there on you to find guys that, considering
where the roster is cap and all that, to find
some guys in those picks that can come in and.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Help you on day one.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
We don't really look at it that way, Daryl, Like
it's really really honestly, the feeling is excitement. It's really
just that I mentioned this before, like you know, probably
similar to the quarterback response, like it's not about focusing
on okay, well, who can hit the ground running fastest?
Is focus on who can be the best of maturity.
And that's how we're approaching.
Speaker 12 (21:33):
The players available to you at number two or so
called transformational players there. Do you envision just staying right
there and taking a Travis or.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Someone I'd say this, Mary, Kay, we will make the
decision that we think you know, maximizes the impact on
the team. You know, whether that's selecting a player, you know,
whether it's that's using the resource otherwise. You know where
it's moving on, moving down, training it for a veteran
like we're going to use it.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's to maximize it.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I don't cay you placed on.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
The bid year Popkin, where you're thirty three, where it
would be worth giving up some kind of asset to.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Move back to the first time.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Honestly, not a ton. Yeah, when you.
Speaker 13 (22:18):
Talk about, you know, taking players where they're valued and
not like overreaching, I guess with to go back to
Scott's point with quarterback, is it just different because of
the overall positional value? Is it different for every position?
Like are they on their own kind of scale in
terms of taking someone where their value?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
But I don't think so. Actually, I think that a
certain level of performance, Like all I've always said that
all positions aren't created equal, and so maybe a certain
level of performance at one position is going to have
a higher impact on whins your team than maybe a
higher level of performance at a less impactful position. So
that kind of gets baked in. It's not just a
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pure okay, like call it one through two fifty ranking
of like who's the best player.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Type type thing. But I think.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
The fl you're all given the same resources. Every team
is given the same resource, right, same amount of dollars,
same amount of picks. You know that obviously ebbs and
flows from year to year as you trade, and it's
important for us to be able to allocate those resources
in a way that in the most efficient way that
allows us to get the best value. And so that's
how we think about it with the draft. That's how
we think about it with our you know, with our contracts,
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you know, which is why we're so focused on that.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Part of it is a general question. You know, you're
read at this time of the.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Year, these guys are rising falling.
Speaker 16 (23:40):
How much is your draft board been altered since I
come by?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Uh, there have been some alterations based on you know,
whether it's you know, medical, mental.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Character fit. Some guys that were.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You know, as we continue to do work with the film,
But I wouldn't say more generally late in the process,
we don't have these like wild swings, so to speak.
It's probably a little bit more tweaking than anything.
Speaker 14 (24:09):
A big deal for the organization. Obviously, pretty much everyone
was there. Why did you guys feel was so important
to have everyone there?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Important have them?
Speaker 11 (24:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I think it's Look, anytime you're picking this high, you
want to, you want to. You're hoping that it's going
to be a player that's going to be with your
organization for fifteen years or something along those lines, and
you're hoping to build a relationship with that player and
his family for along, you know, a long period of time. Right,
No different than Miles, Right, you know Miles, you know,
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we'll retire as a Brown and you know, going to
the Hall of Fame, and you know, we've known him
since he's been twenty one years old, known you know,
Lawrence and Audrey since you know, since his college days.
And that's a really special, uh you know relationship. And
so you're only in these positions a handful of times,
and we feel like it's importan for us to establish
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those relationships early, not just when they just get into
the building.
Speaker 12 (25:06):
Is trading any of your current veterans on the draft weekends?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I wouldn't rule anything out, Mary, Kay, I wouldn't. I
wouldn't say.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That that's necessarily like top of mine.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
But I think back a couple of years ago with
with Troy Hill, we weren't necessarily going into the weekend
thinking that that was going to be an active trade.
You know, Martin was available in a trade back. We
were able to shed some salary and get an additional pick,
So it made sense for us at the time. Now,
I wouldn't rule again being opportunistic out.
Speaker 17 (25:37):
Yeah, quarterbacks almost like restaurants and the location has a
lot to do. So when you know what you'll like
Jackson gar he plays our mill rum because I used
to think and their their styles are different.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
But how does that translate to the pros? How does
that work in your thinking? And talk a little bit
aboutey to those guys.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, I mean I think you know they're they're both
excellent players. You know, I think you know Jalen he's
got rare physical talent. You know, he may may be
the only when he gets in the NFL, he may
be the only quarterback who's faster than than Lamar.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Don't tell Lamar said that, please.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Uh, He's got he's got rare physical gifts. You know,
he's he's strong, he's fast, he's got a really strong arm,
and any system that you build around him, you want
to take advantage of the fact that he has things
that no other players at the position, at the position have.
You know, Jackson, he's very well rounded. You know, he
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can run it, he can throw it, he's accurate. You know,
he's a good decision maker. You know he's i'd say
he's pretty scheme versatile, so to speak. So look, I
think you know both those guys, in the proper situation
can be really good NFL players.
Speaker 15 (26:55):
Skewing younger obviously at the the owners means a couple
of weeks ago and that are along those lines with
Joe sort of coming back and fold here, would you
say that in additions to that room at this point
pretty much you guys have your eyes more so on
the draft than necessarily going out and looking in free
agency to add maybe another veteran.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I wouldn't ruled anything out.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Like I'd say, again, it's about if an opportunity comes
up that makes sense, we'll take advantage of it.
Speaker 16 (27:22):
Two more, do you expect DeShawn Watson to be available
for you at any point in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It's too early to say, Jeff. I can say that
Deshaun's done a great job of reabbing he's been in
every day. He's progressing and that's really our focus. But
it's just too early to say.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
So how do you differentiate who you send the.
Speaker 14 (27:45):
House to so to speak to these different produce Obviously
there's a.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Lot of produce because they're heading to I can't be at.
Speaker 14 (27:51):
All once, But how do you kind of differentiate how
you guys?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
So I'd say for us, you know, quarterbacks most important position,
so we'll be pretty liberal there and then outside of that,
you know, it's if it's non quarterbacks, you know, it's
guys that would be consideration at you know, this high
in the draft.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
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the From the Podium Podcast.
Welcome to a special off season edition of the from
the Podium podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Gabe Killa.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We are officially one week out from the twenty twenty
five NFL Draft in Green Bay. On this episode, you'll
hear from Brown's executive vice president and general manager Andrew
Berry on some of the prospects in the twenty twenty
five NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Let's get right into it.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Here is Andrew Berry.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Okay, so next week's pretty exciting for our team. We
get our players back in the building. You know, obviously
draft weekend approaching where at least as we sit here today,
can add ten you know, rookie players to the roster
or drafted rookie players to the roster. So you know,
we're pretty pumped as we go into as we go
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into next week. As I always do it, this time,
I wanted to, uh, you'll really thank our college scouts
who make a number of sacrifices over the calendar year,
spend a ton of time away from their family, living
out a ho tells, you know, really beating the bushes
for prospects, getting to know them as players and people,
and and it's it's a bit of a thankless job
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right there.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
They don't get a ton of credit, which is a
big reason why on draft weekend we like to bring
them out here to talk to you about the guys
that we've picked, you know, so you can hear from them,
understand why we value their opinion so highly, and they
get a little bit of a little bit of credit,
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Of notoriety for the work that they've been doing.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'd also like to to thank you know, Glenn Cook,
Max Paulus, Meghan Rock for their for their management of
the process. Of course, you know, Catherine Hickman and Andrew
Healy for you know, their their work and all of
our big decisions, you know, joy to pie check and
uh Kathleen would for their work in terms of our
security and and legal and and player background. You know,
(01:52):
all those those individuals you know contribute above and beyond.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So we're excited, we're ready to go. And with that,
I'll open up for questions.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I spoke to at the leading meetings about draft strategy.
So you know, after the prods kind of come together,
you formally draft strategy with all signs pointing to the
Titans taking cam wred. Do you have that draft strategy
and plan, you know, if that was to happen.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
So a big part is a big part of this,
you know, this week and then going into next week
is what we call scenario planning and strategy planning. So
we're really right in the thick of it, you know, Daniel.
And that's not to say that you know, there hasn't
been any thought of it at this point. You know,
that would be disingenuous. But uh, you know, we're we'll
use the whole shot clock, so to speak. You know,
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we don't have to make start making decisions until you know,
really Thursday night. Uh, And so we'll use all the
time afforded to us, and you know, make sure that
we have a thorough plan depending on you know, what
happens at number one.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
See uh Hunter you know, uh, I guess talking about
wanting to play basically all the time.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
And how how do you see him?
Speaker 7 (03:05):
What about that?
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Is it practical in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So I think one of the things that is like
you can't probably fully appreciate until you actually see Travis
play live is just his elite conditioning, like you know,
going out and seeing him play a you know, a
Colorado he I mean, he really never comes off the
field and and it's it's it's unbelievable because like you know,
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there are more plays in a college game then there
is a there is a pro game, and it's like
the guy like he barely pants like that, you know,
like that the thing. So it's it's it's quite incredible.
You know that being said, you know, what he would
attempt to do has not you know, been really done
in our league. But we wouldn't necessarily put a cap
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or a governor in terms of like what he could do.
You know, we would want to be smart in terms
of how we how we started out. You know, I
think I've mentioned before, you know we would see his
his first home as receiver in a second home, you know,
on the defenseid of the ball.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, I think I think, you know, one of the
big things.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
What he has a number of rare qualities, but probably
the rarest is his ability with the ball, his ball skills.
And you know, we would want to put him in
a position that that maximized that ability.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Okay, good, quite forgot it.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Would you be concerned about the pounding, like the physical
pounding at the aerobic part, but you know that taking
the hits on both sides the ball if he played
on both.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Sides for you, Yeah, I think anytime a player across
you know, cross positions plays more snaps, you know, there
certainly is more of that risk.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
That being said, you know, playing on the perimeter positions,
there's maybe a little bit less contact than there would
be as you get closer to the ball. But it's
something that like, you know, look, thirty two teams are
going to would have to figure that out as they
think through his through and through his profile, and you
know there would be some probably like learning on the
fly if if he were here.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
He has to play on both sides to be worth
that number two pick, because that's kind of how he's
viewed as a guy that can do both versus.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Just his one side or the other. No, I don't,
I don't see it that way. I think it's and
I'm gonna use a crossboard now. It's a little bit
like Otani right where you know, when he's playing one side,
he's he's an outstanding player. If he's if he's a pitcher,
he's a hitter, he's an outstanding player. You obviously get
a unicorn if you use them both ways. Yeah, I
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guess without getting in too much into the specific planning,
because you know, he's he's out here, like you know,
we have a decision. But you know, that's something that's
also unique, and it's something that, like I said, every
team across the league would would have to figure out.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
The snaps you have in the college game, especially he
played compared to the number of snaps at the NFL level,
is that something that you know could benefit him, you know,
even you know, the lesser number of snaps maybe in
an average about means.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I think it's possible, But I think to speak with
any level of certainty, it's tough because it is it
would be new territory, you know, for whatever whatever team
acquired them.
Speaker 9 (06:15):
Developing your strategy, do you have.
Speaker 10 (06:19):
Specific people in your office assigned to specific teams to
try to gauge what they're up to and what they
might offer in a trade to jump ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
At a certain point. That's a good question, Tony.
Speaker 11 (06:33):
So I.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So obviously we have a pro scouting staff that it's
I'd say the probably the best way to describe it
is no different than we have area scouts who we
say you have to be experts in your area, know
your schools. You know, with our pro group, you know,
they have to know their teams inside and out. So
in terms of call it the the research aspect, in
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terms of you know, how they think about the roster,
you know, tendencies with you know, with the coaching staff
or the GM or whatever, that would largely reside reside
with our you know, our pro scouting staff as well
as our research and strategy group in terms of you know,
discussions or increase you know, things like that that would
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be that would be more.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
With our executive group division.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Uh, let's say, let's say loosely, like loosely it doesn't
maybe quite work out that that cleanly, but but loosely speaking.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's probably a good way to think about it.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Travis.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I'll go here, how much of the way you do
Travis positionally is positional value versus what you think he
is better at?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Just what do we think he's better in?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
He's great at both, Like I want to be clear,
he's great at both, because I think that got a
little bit uh unfair traction last time I talked about this.
Speaker 10 (07:50):
So weake of you guys going out to Colorado.
Speaker 12 (07:53):
It seems like within the next day everyone in the
whole country was Browns are taking Travis Hunter off the trail.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It's funny how that works out, and maybe.
Speaker 12 (08:06):
Off the Abdul Carter set as well. So is that
an accurate perception of where you guys are right now?
Are you off of Schador, off of Abdul and.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Focusing It's like why I mentioned with Daniel, we're we're
still working through everything. You know, we have not made
a hard decision in terms of, you know, how we're
gonna utilize the the number two pick. There are a
number of guys that we like, you know, our travels,
they were, uh, the logical touch points that you would
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make for all prospects who are worthy of being consideration
that high in the draft, and that's just happened to be.
I think maybe a lot of times Mary Kaye just
becomes like the last place that you stopped.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But but we're still working through everything.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Would there's there's a there's a chance that all options
are on the war Maybe I should say.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
That you have the combine.
Speaker 13 (09:02):
I know as a whole you talked about this quarterback
class and feeling like there are guys there who can
be really good NFL players. I guess now that you're
through the combine, you're through these pro days, Like, do
you still feel like there are multiple guys with starting
potential in this league that that could be helpful to
this team?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I do, Actually, I think.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You know, we were actually talking about this yesterday and
one of our strategy sessions. Actually, Daniel as you're on
your phone, But I'm give you a hard time. I've
given you a hard time. I'm given you a hard
time that I think that a lot of the quarterback
position is, you know, the environment that you put the
individual in. You know, whether that's what teammates s grammatically,
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what you asked them to do and honestly what you
asked them to do early in their career. And I
think you're starting to see it more and more across
the league that quarterbacks can produce in a number of
different ways.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You know, the way that Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Produces is a lot different than the way that Rock
Party produces. You know, the way that the system that
Too runs is a lot different than the system that
Lamar Jackson runs. And you know, I think it's of
great importance for any organization bringing in a quarterback to
understanding what that individual does well and how you both
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build build an offense and design a scheme to accentuate
that individual strength, because I think as long as they
have a level of baseline talent, you can have a
productive player at the position as long as you're thoughtful
in terms of building.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
The environment around him. Every team has its own first
round pick right now. That's rare.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Is it just happened that way or do you think
teams just don't want to give them up.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I think it just happened that way. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:40):
Identifying the quarterback you want and when to take the
biggest challenge of.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Your draft, I don't know that I would necessarily put
it that way, Tony. Obviously quarterbacks the most important position.
I think the biggest thing that we're thinking about going
into this draft is really just adding good player and
good prospects, you know, not overthinking that way, Like, can't
I say you dictate the draft, although certainly you have
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more influence when you're picking as high as we are
this year, But we're really just looking at good players.
Speaker 13 (11:15):
How much does your plans and what you've already done
in free agency shape what you're doing in the draft,
and then vice versa.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
How much will the draft then go into your plans
for free agency.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
There is there is some interplay.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I wouldn't say that it's it's one that drives the other,
but it could influence the level of investment that you
would make at a certain position once you get to
get to April. But that being said, depending on how
the draft falls, our goal and our thought process is
making sure that we can add as many players that
we think can be, you know, very high quality long
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term contributors. And you know, sometimes you know that may
not be like you know in a parent you know
need or an apparent uh or maybe like an obvious
pick at the spot, but just the player is too
good to pass up.
Speaker 11 (12:06):
In this quarterback classes, it's not as strong as your
typical quarterback classes, and not asking if you feel that way,
but does bring it back Joe Flacco give you more
latitude maybe to look at a guy through a more
of a long term lens, like a developmental lens. You
know you can bring you can draft someone in the
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middle rounds that you can develop and just kind of
have Joe keep the seat warm, as opposed to having
the urgency of finding that guy in this draft and
getting him on the field as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I wouldn't say that that's the case at all, Darryl,
Like we wouldn't consider, you know, signing Joe as having
any real impact in terms of how we would view
taking a quarterback in the draft. You know, we firmly
believe that it's not about picking a player who's you know,
ready to contribute now. It's about trying to find the
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player that you think is going to be the best
if you have access to that to that player.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
You know, look, I think you can think about uh,
you know, Patrick Mahomes sat his whole first year. You know,
Josh Allen, it really took to year three for him
to to become Josh Allen. You know, Lamar probably hit
the ground running pretty quickly. You know Jalen Hurts like
there were there were doubts about him until he probably
hit year three. So quarterbacks mature and grow at their
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own pace. And our thought isn't in terms of immediacy,
but making the next long term bet.
Speaker 14 (13:36):
What do you think, Andrew, What do you do you
make of Travis Hunter's comments earlier this week about not
playing football if you can't play both sides of the pond.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
How does that affect your strategy?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
It really doesn't.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Yeah, calculating the value of moving on let's just say
from thirty three into the first round. Are you making
those calculations right now so that on a knight of
the draft you'll know how far you want to go
if you want.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So that's something that we actually have, I guess call
it like living, breathing kind of market value, so to speak.
So that's it's it's it's not something that we have
to like re call it, like retabulate necessarily every year, Tony.
We generally know like the pricing if you want to move,
if you want to move up, or what you would
receive if you move back.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But yeah, certainly that comes.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Into play with with with any of those decisions as
you get on the clock.
Speaker 11 (14:30):
When when it comes to the quarterback position, there's always
so much said about, you.
Speaker 15 (14:33):
Know, this year's class versus next year's class and sort
of comparing how teams are already sort of projecting ahead.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I guess I'm just curious from your guys' perspective, and
I'm not.
Speaker 15 (14:42):
It could be this year, but it could be future years.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Too, Like how do you guys, how much.
Speaker 11 (14:47):
Evaluation can actually happen and go.
Speaker 15 (14:49):
On in terms of like what's to come in future
years at that position to allow you guys to make
the best decision on what you.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Want to do, like how much are you actually waiting?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So we do, you know, particularly with quarterback, we do
look at those classes two years at a time as
opposed to one year at a time. So it is
something that we think about. But there's also a lot
that changes from year to year, so it's it's not
like it's not like that can necessarily be be set
in stone.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Players take a step forward in their growth, some take
a step back, and some come out of nowhere. So
you can't necessarily use that as a hard and fast rule,
but it is something.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That that we like to have you I like to
think about in the background.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
How do you I'm j okay, you expect him to
be here next in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, so again, you know j O case timeline. I
think I mentioned the last time. It is a bit nebulous.
He is progressing, you know, But again, right now, I
don't have necessarily like a definitive date for you, Jeff.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
You brought in Joe now and you have to get
the thought process between putting those two together. As your
veteran guys, how are you going to run like.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Who starts or whatever?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, so I'll answer your second question first, Terry. You know,
it's about breeding competition and you know, whatever that room
looks like as we go into the spring and then
probably most importantly training camp. You know, all those individuals
will have a chance to.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Compete to be the starter. Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
In terms of in terms of Joe versus Kenny, you know,
Joe I kind of mentioned earlier. You know, he can
he can fit a number of different spots in the room.
We obviously know him well. He's an excellent play action passer,
you know, you know, we fund he functions kind of
in our you know, in our system with Kenny younger,
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guy mobile, very smart, protects the ball. I think there's
more you know, physical ability in him. A guy we
did a lot of work on, you know, in that
you know, in that draft process, and obviously you know,
saw him twice a year when he was in when
he was in Pittsburgh, and so we think there's you know,
there's there's there's more to get out of them.
Speaker 9 (17:05):
There, Carter, that run worked out or done much since
the season ended.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
What is your understanding of this availability or an off
season day.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, I'd say more generally, Tony. You know, our.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Medical staff is is not necessarily concerned about, you know,
any any health risks with him.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Do you feel like you need to come out of
this draft with your long term answer going back?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Or is that something that I.
Speaker 13 (17:34):
If you guys don't find that guy, you'd be willing
to address later.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, Dan, I think the biggest thing for us is
we want to have, you know, long term players across
the roster. You know, we're not gonna necessarily for something
if we if we don't think you know, the values
right or anything along those lines, But we want to
be thoughtful and discipline and our decision making.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Between picks.
Speaker 16 (17:58):
Plays you like to off the board, but the quarterback
do you feel more dangerous if the longer you wait,
just because there's fewer of them? So whether it's two
to thirty three or thirty three to sixty seven that
if you don't take one, then you know the guys
you like may.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Be gone, Uh not really, Scott, like I think, I
think it certainly depends on the player, right, and it
depends on where you're picking, you know, but we don't
necessarily we won't pick based on panic.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I guess maybe that's the way of characterising it.
Speaker 12 (18:28):
I'm in addition to shador On, some of the other
quarterbacks such as Jalen Jameson Tyler. Uh, do you envision
that one of those guys would have just as good
a chance to come in here and start.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
As shador I think that's hard to say, Mary Kay,
you know, I think that it just the reality is,
like every situation is different. Every player, you know, acclimates
you know differently. Like I think back to it was
this twenty I'm gonna say twenty three, and you look
at you know Bryce, and you know bryceon CJ. Bryce
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had played a lot of football and played at SEC
at Alabama. It took him a little bit of time
to get a sea legs in Carolina, whereas like with CJ,
you know, there were probably more questions about him going
to process and he hit the ground running. So I
just think there are there are plenty of those examples
where you really just don't know how they'll how they'll transition,
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and why it's important to have patients at the position.
Speaker 12 (19:28):
More privates with anybody between now and draft day.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
No, we will not.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Think.
Speaker 10 (19:34):
I don't think you've drafted a player over the age
of twenty five. So why is Tyler Shuck of interest
to you?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know, tell you So, I think one, it's probably
rare to have players come into the draft that are
twenty five or older. So I think that that's one,
it's probably a little bit of like a selection bias.
And two, you know, age is certainly a part of
the equation, but it's not it's not like some type
of end a you all.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It just adds context to the performance.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
And so like I, you know, I wouldn't like it's
a factor, but I wouldn't say it's it's like there's
any hard and fast.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Rule process would bringing flag go back?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yes, So it's what I mentioned with Darryl earlier. You know,
we we know Joe he fits in the system. You know,
we think he's a quarterback that can fit in any
of the the spots of the QB room. You know,
whether he's a short term starter, you know, whether he's
in the backup quarterback role. You know, he's excellent and
he certainly fit you know, our kind of like our
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resource allocation from a roster planning standpoint.
Speaker 11 (20:34):
With Jaylen Bilro how much with having Tommy in the
building helps with that evaluation and.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
That helps a lot, Like I mean, for to have
you know, r O C. Having been at Alabama with
him for a full year, calling place for him, you know,
knowing his strengths and weaknesses, it helps a lot.
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Five top four picks of this draft. How much pressure
sure is there on you to find guys that, considering
where the roster is cap and all that, to find
some guys in those picks that can come in and.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Help you on day one.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
We don't really look at it that way, Daryl, Like
it's really really honestly, the feeling is excitement. It's really
just that I mentioned this before, like you know, probably
similar to the quarterback response, like it's not about focusing
on okay, well, who can hit the ground running fastest?
Is focus on who can be the best of maturity.
And that's how we're approaching.
Speaker 12 (21:33):
The players available to you at number two or so
called transformational players there. Do you envision just staying right
there and taking a Travis or.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Someone I'd say this, Mary, Kay, we will make the
decision that we think you know, maximizes the impact on
the team. You know, whether that's selecting a player, you know,
whether it's that's using the resource otherwise. You know where
it's moving on, moving down, training it for a veteran
like we're going to use it.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's to maximize it.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I don't cay you placed on.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
The bid year Popkin, where you're thirty three, where it
would be worth giving up some kind of asset to.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Move back to the first time.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Honestly, not a ton. Yeah, when you.
Speaker 13 (22:18):
Talk about, you know, taking players where they're valued and
not like overreaching, I guess with to go back to
Scott's point with quarterback, is it just different because of
the overall positional value? Is it different for every position?
Like are they on their own kind of scale in
terms of taking someone where their value?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
But I don't think so. Actually, I think that a
certain level of performance, Like all I've always said that
all positions aren't created equal, and so maybe a certain
level of performance at one position is going to have
a higher impact on whins your team than maybe a
higher level of performance at a less impactful position. So
that kind of gets baked in. It's not just a
(22:56):
pure okay, like call it one through two fifty ranking
of like who's the best player.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Type type thing. But I think.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
The fl you're all given the same resources. Every team
is given the same resource, right, same amount of dollars,
same amount of picks. You know that obviously ebbs and
flows from year to year as you trade, and it's
important for us to be able to allocate those resources
in a way that in the most efficient way that
allows us to get the best value. And so that's
how we think about it with the draft. That's how
we think about it with our you know, with our contracts,
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you know, which is why we're so focused on that.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Part of it is a general question. You know, you're
read at this time of the.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Year, these guys are rising falling.
Speaker 16 (23:40):
How much is your draft board been altered since I
come by?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Uh, there have been some alterations based on you know,
whether it's you know, medical, mental.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Character fit. Some guys that were.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You know, as we continue to do work with the film,
But I wouldn't say more generally late in the process,
we don't have these like wild swings, so to speak.
It's probably a little bit more tweaking than anything.
Speaker 14 (24:09):
A big deal for the organization. Obviously, pretty much everyone
was there. Why did you guys feel was so important
to have everyone there?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Important have them?
Speaker 11 (24:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I think it's Look, anytime you're picking this high, you
want to, you want to. You're hoping that it's going
to be a player that's going to be with your
organization for fifteen years or something along those lines, and
you're hoping to build a relationship with that player and
his family for along, you know, a long period of time. Right,
No different than Miles, Right, you know Miles, you know,
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we'll retire as a Brown and you know, going to
the Hall of Fame, and you know, we've known him
since he's been twenty one years old, known you know,
Lawrence and Audrey since you know, since his college days.
And that's a really special, uh you know relationship. And
so you're only in these positions a handful of times,
and we feel like it's importan for us to establish
(25:02):
those relationships early, not just when they just get into
the building.
Speaker 12 (25:06):
Is trading any of your current veterans on the draft weekends?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I wouldn't rule anything out, Mary, Kay, I wouldn't. I
wouldn't say.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That that's necessarily like top of mine.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
But I think back a couple of years ago with
with Troy Hill, we weren't necessarily going into the weekend
thinking that that was going to be an active trade.
You know, Martin was available in a trade back. We
were able to shed some salary and get an additional pick,
So it made sense for us at the time. Now,
I wouldn't rule again being opportunistic out.
Speaker 17 (25:37):
Yeah, quarterbacks almost like restaurants and the location has a
lot to do. So when you know what you'll like
Jackson gar he plays our mill rum because I used
to think and their their styles are different.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
But how does that translate to the pros? How does
that work in your thinking? And talk a little bit
aboutey to those guys.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, I mean I think you know they're they're both
excellent players. You know, I think you know Jalen he's
got rare physical talent. You know, he may may be
the only when he gets in the NFL, he may
be the only quarterback who's faster than than Lamar.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Don't tell Lamar said that, please.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Uh, He's got he's got rare physical gifts. You know,
he's he's strong, he's fast, he's got a really strong arm,
and any system that you build around him, you want
to take advantage of the fact that he has things
that no other players at the position, at the position have.
You know, Jackson, he's very well rounded. You know, he
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can run it, he can throw it, he's accurate. You know,
he's a good decision maker. You know he's i'd say
he's pretty scheme versatile, so to speak. So look, I
think you know both those guys, in the proper situation
can be really good NFL players.
Speaker 15 (26:55):
Skewing younger obviously at the the owners means a couple
of weeks ago and that are along those lines with
Joe sort of coming back and fold here, would you
say that in additions to that room at this point
pretty much you guys have your eyes more so on
the draft than necessarily going out and looking in free
agency to add maybe another veteran.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I wouldn't ruled anything out.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Like I'd say, again, it's about if an opportunity comes
up that makes sense, we'll take advantage of it.
Speaker 16 (27:22):
Two more, do you expect DeShawn Watson to be available
for you at any point in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It's too early to say, Jeff. I can say that
Deshaun's done a great job of reabbing he's been in
every day. He's progressing and that's really our focus. But
it's just too early to say.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
So how do you differentiate who you send the.
Speaker 14 (27:45):
House to so to speak to these different produce Obviously
there's a.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Lot of produce because they're heading to I can't be at.
Speaker 14 (27:51):
All once, But how do you kind of differentiate how
you guys?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
So I'd say for us, you know, quarterbacks most important position,
so we'll be pretty liberal there and then outside of that,
you know, it's if it's non quarterbacks, you know, it's
guys that would be consideration at you know, this high
in the draft.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That'll do it for this episode of the From the
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