August 1, 2025 • 37 mins
On training camp practice #8, hear from HC Kevin Stefanski, LB coach Jason Tarver, TE coach Christian Jones, DT Maliek Collins, and LB Mohamoud Diabate.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the From the Podium podcast, where we feature
all of our daily press conferences rolled into one podcast
to help you get ready for the twenty twenty five
regular season. I'm Brock Danny, and on today's episode, you'll
hear from head coach Kevin Stefanski, linebacker's coach Jason Tarver,
tight ends coach Christian Jones, defensive tackle Malik Collins, and
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linebacker Mamu Diabate. First up, head coach Kevin Stefanski provides
some injury updates.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Okay, excited to be back out here. I took a
little day yesterday, as you saw, got a bunch of
rain and cool down a little bit, but good. A
couple of practices coming up today and tomorrow, and then
we'll take another break before we get ready to head
down to Carolina. Injury front Kenny Pickett will be back
out there in a limited role today.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
He continues to progress.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And then you know, I think the guys are doing
a nice job understanding all the work that needs to
get done. Their their focused meetings have been excellent. So
looking forward to another good day. And and I'd be
remiss if I didn't mention Mary Kay, who's not here right,
she's she's down in Canton or on her way to Canton.
Unbelievable honor for Mary Kay well deserved. So congratulations again
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to her. But with that, I'll take any questions.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
He's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
When when you say limited for Kenny, will you not
be doing team stuff?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Correct?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Yeah, Kenny and Kevin with the h him coming back,
is your possibility that he would be by joint team workouts?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, I'm not gonna. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I need to see how it looks today. I'm not
gonna get too far past to.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
Kevin like he's still fully in the quarterback competition then
in your guys.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Eyes, and then competing for this for sure. Yeah, that's
kind of mentioned to you guys before.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I mean, obviously disappointed that he's not full go, but
he's very, very much.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
Involved in everything we're doing. He did a little easier
for a guy who's been in the league. I mean,
do you feel little more comfortable with that with a
guy who has been in the league before and gone
through the process.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Of get Yeah, I think so, Chris.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I think he's a player that's had a good amount
of NFL game exposure.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He's had a lot of reps going back.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Through the spring and what we've got gotten accomplished so
far through training camp. So uh yeah, of course you
don't want anybody to be missing action, dude, any injury
or that type of thing. But he's done a nice
job of staying very much engaged.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
Can you explain why you went to tackling this year
and we'll we see it again.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I think every year, Tony, you're looking at what your
football team needs, where you are from a bunch of
different perspectives, and feel like that's the uh you know,
it was the thing that we wanted to do in
a say it's also in a safe, controlled environment. Uh
So it's we've done it here before. It's something that
we'll look at over the next couple of days, potentially
doing again.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
Speaking of walking over over.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
The next couple of days, I thought Dave canarls that
they plan on playing their starters the first couple of
preseason games.
Speaker 9 (03:04):
Do you know yet what you guys?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, I have a pretty good feel for what we're
gonna do, but I want to number one, talk to
the team about it, uh and then also want to
see how it goes over the next few days as well.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
No, No, you guys usually cooperate as well.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, certainly cooperate in terms of the practice that we're
gonna have against each other, what we're gonna do when
we play each other. But Dave's gonna do what he
thinks is best for his team. I'll do it the
same for our team.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Do you anticipate narrowing the scope of this quarterback competition
before you get to Carolina or using that trip to
Carolina to helping for that time.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, I think for.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
All of our positions, every single day is an important
part of getting ready for the season and part of
the evaluation. So uh really, at every position, we'll use
these next today, Tomorrow, Monday, when we get down to Carolina.
All of it is in an effort to get ready
for Week one and evaluator players with the.
Speaker 9 (04:07):
Reason three day block.
Speaker 10 (04:09):
How much did you see the rookies rookie QB is
going to.
Speaker 11 (04:13):
Take advantage against their stings.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I think, you know, I would say our entire rookie
class is taking advantage of their reps. I've been impressed
with this group going all the way back to the spring.
I think they've worked extremely hard. We brought them in
early for the early report to get extra reps even
in that setting. So I really it's hard to narrow
it to one position because I've been so impressed by
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the entire group.
Speaker 12 (04:38):
With Milly Kellens, what do you think he adds to
the interior view line?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
A veteran player that that plays hard, very very technique sound.
He's made a few plays already in camp where you
can kind of see his ability to run games and
stunts is extremely high because he has so many reps
at it, and I think, you know that goes a
long way with some.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Of the young into that position as well.
Speaker 12 (05:01):
He talked about having working out with Mason in the break.
How valuable can that beat.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
A guy like Mason?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, that's invaluable.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know, having a guy that's been there, done that
at a high level can teach you all the tricks
of the trade. And also, you know, I give him
a leak a ton of credit just for his work ethic.
Just watch him go out here, how hard he practices.
Speaker 9 (05:20):
Ready for a go, I'm ready for larger than.
Speaker 13 (05:27):
A number of times.
Speaker 10 (05:27):
Yeahs he opened the eyes of Anyboddy that he's signed
to mind.
Speaker 11 (05:31):
Drafted free agent.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I think he's done a nice job Tony I
think gauge like a lot of his rookies, but he's
he's a very smart kid, so we can line him
up all over and then you know in football, when
you can catch a rock and make somebody miss and
then you know, those are things that get noticed. So
he's a he's been where he's supposed to be, which
is is a big part of being a rookie and
understanding your role.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
But he's also made plays with the bass. He's done
a nice show.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
I felt.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Have you seen his good from a cross standpoint these
last couple for.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
The years and obviously now majority of retiring, he treated
j Okay the opportunity opening up for him to kind
of carve out a role this year.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, my mood's a young player, but but I've seen
him get better each year. Uh, he's becoming more and
more comfortable. And you see that and maybe you hear
that as a vocal leader and when you're in the
center of the defense making calls, I think shows you
how how much he understands this scheme and and how
how comfortable he is in it. But I think he's
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he's a player that's progressing every single year, every single
day is out here getting better and better.
Speaker 10 (06:35):
Kevin.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
I don't think he's seen team drills the last few prexes.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The team injury right now is limited.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
He's coming along, but he's he'll he'll be fine, I.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Say, Danieally, haven't asked a question, but any update on
h on guys like Tevin and some of those guys
who have been sort of like Grant out the last
few days.
Speaker 9 (06:59):
No updates.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Everybody is right where we need them to be.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They're working hard, They're all on different timetables.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But pleased with the progress everybody's making.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Anybody's gonna be back in the field today.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Kenny Pickett gave you that one, CB.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
No, how do you how do you feel like the
guys attend to Yeah, I didn't that job, obviously. It's
it's our job as coaches to uh put it in
a controlled setting. It's it's not live in the quarterback obviously,
and there's still rules about that where you want to
still take care of your teammates. Things that you would
do in a game, you wouldn't necessarily do even in
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a live period versus your teamates.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
So the guys didn't that show.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Are we gonna see them around today and tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, potentially, it's it's again, it's a really day by
day basis of making decisions of what I think the
team needs.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
Did did they know that was coming? Yes?
Speaker 14 (07:53):
How do you see dabated Harold maybe getting the most
out of each other.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And David Bring and Harold A Yeah, I think Dave's
done a nice job as a teammate already, just with
a young player taking him under his wing and encouraging
him and and kind of you know, showing him the
ropes quote unquote. So uh, that's encouraging. And you know,
we like versatile football players. I think both those guys
can can be that for us. But yeah, I think
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it's a it's a really good balance between those two guys.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
What's the reason rolling one practice against Carolina?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, we haven't done I have not done a week
one practice versus teams before Tony, So just.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Felt like week one one day was the right amount.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
How do you feel like the youth players best?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Nay, Yeah, we love having the youth football players out here.
I remind our players all the time that they play
a kid's game. They're they're blessed and fortunate and lucky
to play a kid's game. I'm so lucky to coach
this game so we all can put ourselves in these
kids position. I remember going to training camp when I
was a kid and and what that feeling is like
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being around your hero.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
So we love having these kids out here.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Next, Linebacker's coach Jason Tarbart discusses how his competitive room
can continue to improve heading into week one.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Carson, just how much has he even surprised you with
his progress from when you you know you got him
first time in rookie Minnie Campton.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Now, yeah, he's he's so good at remembering and then
applying things as they occur, Like he'll surprise me to
be like coach, I remember we said this the second day,
so then he does it and that's cool. And when
he can stay in that process, that's really powerful because
he learns so fast.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Jordan just making that decision to retire and how it
impacts the room, and just you your thoughts on what
he did.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
Here lest we love Jordan's You know, he he gave
his When Jordan plays and played football, he gave his
all every single play he would for a player.
Speaker 15 (09:55):
He was always finishing in the pile, trying to get
the ball out for us.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
So that extreme effort is something that we all learned
from how to play the game the right way.
Speaker 15 (10:03):
And then you know, he's he's earned his right.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
He's he's played at the highest level for a really
long time and that's a great career and and that's
an honor to be able to do that. So we
you know, we we're he's gonna be watching us and
when he got some standards to live up too. So
we've learned a lot from them, players and coaches, and
we're gonna continue to use that as we go forward.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
Jerome's down one of the oldest, oldest in the room.
Speaker 15 (10:29):
So how is he kind of stepping into.
Speaker 9 (10:31):
The leadership roles he sorguis and what's he provided so far?
Speaker 8 (10:34):
Well, Jerome's seen a lot of things in football, from
all the way to college, from playing in space to
playing behind a box. Different schemes, hurt, a lot of
different words. So he's good at, oh, this is just this,
and then making it easy so he can play fast.
So that's one he needs to keep doing that.
Speaker 16 (10:48):
And then two.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
The last week, anytime you go to a new teenth,
there's an adjustment period and he's home and We're happy
he's home. It's excited, excited that that you know, he
can stay in this process and play in front of
all of us want to come home. I've had lots
of players over the years when they played their first
game it home. Oh my gosh, did they play well.
So I'm excited to see him do that. But in
the last week he's really gotten comfortable in this scheme
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and you can see him. He's really bursting and running.
Not that he wasn't before, but now it's that comfort.
So whatever it is, there's a learning curve and his
is moving up quickly. So we're excited about it.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
What about you guys, just you know, obviously paths are
on now. But the tackling to the ground we saw
the other day too, Like Carson really loved that. How
exciting is that for you as a linebackers coach because
it seems like those guys are there.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
Yeah, you've you've heard me say our mantra and that's
run because no matter what, we're going full speed, shed
and tackle the guy with the ball.
Speaker 16 (11:44):
So we get to do that full speed.
Speaker 15 (11:45):
So anytime we get to do that, yeah, I'm smiling.
Speaker 16 (11:47):
We're happy.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
But we got to do it the right way, of
course against our team, which is keeping everybody up and
higher tackles rather.
Speaker 15 (11:53):
Than lower tackles. But yeah, that the simulation of getting
off the block.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
And like one of the players, Carson is, he had
to get away from Joel and that's great because we know.
Speaker 15 (12:04):
Who Joel is and Joel can block pretty darn well.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
And he strained and he found his way off the block,
found his way to finish that tackle, and that's what
we want to see and he did it.
Speaker 15 (12:14):
So we'll just keep doing that. But that's playing football.
That's playing linebacker.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
I know it's next man of the challenges of you
lose Jeremiah and Jordan too received starters.
Speaker 15 (12:24):
And so now going into this what has to happen
for this year, and it's to really not miss a
be well.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
I'll start with some of the other guys we haven't
talked about. Devin Bush got into the system last year
and got better and better and better as he went
through the year, and he played all three positions my
mood played over five hundred snaps, played all three positions.
Winston Reid came in and gave us good snaps. Now
he's learning all three positions and then we get Nate,
who missed summit camp last year back, so we actually
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have players that have played in the scheme and now
they're able to play the other spots. So it gives
us a lot of flexibility in that all these young
guys are competing, but if somebody does a certain role better,
he may earn that role. So it's awesome in the
room right now. They're all learning it all and they're
hyper competitive to do anything to answer my questions to
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get the ball. And that's how we want it. We
want the competition and the guys have embraced the competition.
And let's see how this goes because it's fun to
watch right now.
Speaker 9 (13:25):
Jason George's retirement. You know, obviously he's a big leader.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Does that leadership almost have to spread out over multiple
people when you lose a player like that.
Speaker 9 (13:35):
It can't just doesn't just all on one guy like
Devon or Jerome. Does that sort of spread out to
multiple guys?
Speaker 8 (13:43):
Well, you've heard us say it. We're the nerve center
of the defense, but the linebackers are linebackers.
Speaker 15 (13:47):
That's our job.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
Our job is to get everybody lined up, make the call,
communicate and then make the D line right or where
whoever else right and get the guy on the ground.
Speaker 16 (13:55):
That's it.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
So not only has it done that, Like I brought
something up to him, Evan that are in the room,
and one of the players said, right back, coach, we'll
get seven of the seven of us to do that.
I go, that's the right answer. So they're all making calls.
They're all doing a good job with that stuff, like
you said. Like we've said, Carson as a rookie has
done a really good job with being able to handle.
Speaker 15 (14:18):
One time fixing things.
Speaker 16 (14:19):
The vocal.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
We were just in the indoor and when he was
making the front calls, it was echoing because we want
to be clear, it's and concise.
Speaker 15 (14:27):
We don't want to go left left of left, we
want to go left left, and you.
Speaker 16 (14:31):
Can hear it.
Speaker 8 (14:31):
It's getting louder every day for all of them. Winston
had something the other day was echoing. I told them,
so like, that's what I mean. We're all gonna have
to do it, and we like it that way.
Speaker 9 (14:40):
Touched on it a little bit of all the guys
learning all great positions.
Speaker 11 (14:43):
Yes, as you get into this part, but you like, are.
Speaker 14 (14:46):
You still evaluating that process or you kind of seen
more guys in their roles.
Speaker 9 (14:51):
I guess how do you evaluate this part.
Speaker 11 (14:53):
For that process?
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Well, I'll give an example like Devin last year when
he came in and it was his first year, he
was doing a little bit more of the space roles
more than like right in the middle of the defense.
Now he's doing it all. So as they get better
at what they are. Now, what's cool about that is
it gives us position flexibility. Right modern football, there's just
different body types rather than positions, and we want to
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all be able to do it all.
Speaker 15 (15:16):
We got to do the things the safeties do. They
gotta do the things the linebackers do.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
Okay, going towards now and what are the things that
you want to get together. What are the weaknesses that
you want to improve.
Speaker 17 (15:25):
On that you must have proved on by week one?
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Okay, so we're still we still got our two opportunities
to practice against other teams and then play against them.
So right now, the biggest thing for me is what
we talked about a little bit. It's shedding blocks and
getting too the ball. It's the real shedding. The difference
in the NFL is the big men versus college The
big guys are faster and stronger because they're they're grown
and they're trained. So we have got to get as
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younger men coming in the league. You've got to learn
how to do that. You got to learn how to strain.
You got to learn your distance to strike. So that's
the main focus right now, especially while we're in pads,
and then as we get to the season, it'll be
more learning the opponents. Right now, it's all about us,
and it always is all about us, but all about us.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
New tight ends coach Christian Jones is next and he
talks about the energy David Nijoku brings to the tight
end room.
Speaker 9 (16:13):
What do you learn about I mean.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
David's a physical guy.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
Herold's a physical guy.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
What do you learn about those guys when you go
live like he did the other day.
Speaker 16 (16:20):
I think you see a lot of things.
Speaker 10 (16:21):
I think you see how strong Dave is, how his
physical traits really helped him in the blocking game, but
also how his physicality helps him get open to the
passing game. Because guys see him moving so fast to
get to his blocks, to get on guys, to get
on defensive ends that they assume he's just blocking and
then he's out and his speed helps him get open.
When you get full pads on, everybody's moving slower, but
you got more to grab onto him, more to push
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off of, and I think that helps him get open
down the field. And as far as Harold goes, I mean,
you see a balanced player, somebody who's willing to strike,
somebody who's willing to get up on somebody, put his
hands on him, lean his shoulder into somebody, get lower
than them, lift them up out of the ground, lift
them up out of the ground, lift them up out
of their pads, right, move them out of the gap.
I think you watch somebody that's willing to do multiple things,
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and he's able to do multiple things, and I think
that's something that's really gonna help us down in the season.
Speaker 14 (17:08):
Between David and Harold end up.
Speaker 17 (17:10):
Complimenting with each other, and it's a great question.
Speaker 16 (17:13):
They're different in a lot of their ways.
Speaker 10 (17:14):
But Dave offers a lot more physicality, a bigger body, right, something,
a bigger target for the quarterback to throw the ball to,
and he's still fast enough to get open down the field.
And I think Harold offers you something, right, somebody who
can be in the backfield, run routes out of the backfield,
block out of the backfield. Line up at number one,
run a route and versus a corner.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
Right.
Speaker 10 (17:33):
So you've just got a lot of versatility from those guys,
and you have a willingness from them to do those things.
And I think that's what helps an offense.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Right.
Speaker 10 (17:41):
If a guy says I'm not doing this, then that
takes catches or touches away from themselves, Right, I don't
want to block on this play, Well, we can't use
you on this past this play action. So I think
you got two guys that are really willing and that
only makes our job easier when it comes to playing games.
Speaker 12 (17:57):
Drill Harold had a real nice running catching like and
I'll just scouts. You talked about that when you drafted him.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
You see it there? Have you seen it? Other examples
of just how good he can be with the ball
in his hands.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
I would say that's the first thing we saw when
we're watching him on college film, is how good he
was with the ball in his hands.
Speaker 16 (18:15):
His instincts for setting up blocks.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
I think that's something you'll see on that long play
he had where he kind of leaned the defender into
the block and then cut right under him, right, And
that's something you see with him. He's got a vision,
he's able to run with the ball, and he he's
a he's a one cut runner. He doesn't bounce around,
dance around. He's trying to get the yards that he
can and get down And like I said, I think
somebody asks me this a while ago. Right, that adds up, right,
that that becomes a successful season because those quick decisions
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add up to more yards, more plays, and hopefully more wins.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
For their team. Christian David and Joe Flacco has such
a nice chemistry and twenty twenty three, I know David
has such a big personality. Puts in some videos of
him and Joe, right, Joe's just sitting there laughing, like,
how have you seen those guys interact?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
And and you kind of continue that so far.
Speaker 16 (19:00):
I think it's a mutual respect.
Speaker 10 (19:02):
I think it's something where Dave really respects Joe and
he you know, leans on him for a lot of things.
Speaker 16 (19:07):
And I think that's something that has been good to see.
Speaker 17 (19:09):
Right.
Speaker 10 (19:09):
He has a role model that he respects and trusts,
and that's always something you'd like to see and even
for an eight year vet, right, somebody who's been in
the league that long, he still looks for God and
looks for guys to bounce ideas off of talk to.
And he's a very sociable person, right, So him getting
Joe Flacco out there hanging out with him as always
great to see.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
Right.
Speaker 16 (19:26):
That means you got a close team on the other
side of that.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
Have you seen David kind of bring your harrow goll
on since he's been here.
Speaker 16 (19:33):
I would say the whole tight End group has done that.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
I think everybody in the group has kind of come
together and just kind of taken on working with him,
helping him out, helping him learn what it means to
be a pro. And I think it's on Harrold too, Right,
He's got to make the decision to be a professional
player and do everything that mean, do what it means
to be a pro, whether it's in the building or
outside the building. So he's got great role models in
that room. He's got Brendan Bates who's in his second year,
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Blake's in his third, Dave's in his eighth. Misal has
been playing ball for so long, he's been in and
out and he's been doing for a long time, so
he's got a lot of guys to lean on and
ask questions.
Speaker 16 (20:06):
And I think that's only gonna benefit him.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
What is the the energy that David brahamy We see
it every day? What does that do for you guys?
Speaker 18 (20:13):
Is you're going through camp, it's hot, and you guys
are getting guys are starting to work.
Speaker 17 (20:16):
Down a little bit.
Speaker 10 (20:17):
He breaks the monotoni. Yeah, he breaks the monani. You
walk in that room, you never know what's gonna happen.
The energy's gonna bring what he's gonna say, he's gonna do.
And that's it benefits everybody, right cause you know, you
get you get used to hearing me talk. It starts
to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher. Right, It's just a
bunch of murmurs. And you're like, I, I can't do
this anymore. You start to doze off and then your
eyes start closing, and and he'll pop in with some energy. Right,
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He'll turn on a rock song and they'll start dancing
around and getting other guys up.
Speaker 16 (20:43):
And it just he helps break the monani.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
Right.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
I can do what I can, but players have to
find their own way out of it, and he does
it for them and that's super helpful.
Speaker 12 (20:51):
How much you're looking forward to seeing Harold in preseason games?
And what are you looking for him in those outings?
Speaker 16 (20:58):
I just wanna see him go compete.
Speaker 10 (21:00):
I just wanna see him compete, see him go out
strike guys that are in different, you know, color jerseys
than him. I wanna see him show what he can
do with the ball in his hands. Right, he's a
very balanced runner. So now you're facing somebody that's really
gonna try and tackle you, gonna bring you down, right,
there's no rules just we don't have the same rules
out on this field as we do out there. Right,
So are you gonna make that tough catch from the
balls and there somebody's coming at you. Are you gonna
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make that one cut and get up the field or
are you gonna dance around and lose his five or
four or five yards? So I think that's something I'm
looking forward to seeing.
Speaker 19 (21:28):
What's something that you've seen in the Herald that you
didn't expect in coming out of college at Ballenbreem when
adopted camp.
Speaker 10 (21:34):
You said, Wow, that's a great question. I would say
the depth of knowledge that he has and that he
leans on. Right, you meet with him and you're like,
I can tell this guy smart. You could tell he
thinks through things very well. I think it's more so
like because he plays safety in high school before he
got to college to play tight end, so he leans
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on a lot of his defensive knowledge for how he plays.
Speaker 16 (21:59):
Right, I'll I'll watch film, like, you know, what would
you be thinking of you that safety? And he'll just
give you an answer quick.
Speaker 10 (22:04):
Right, He's able to lean on a lot of his
experience to help him be an effective player. And that's
that's super encouraging, that's extra Yes, absolutely, Yeah, chemistry is
one thing.
Speaker 14 (22:13):
But how can your unit specifically can help these quarterbacks,
for quarterbacks in this competition, help them come along, get
the most out of them as they're looking for that
week one starter?
Speaker 16 (22:23):
What can your unit do and we do our job?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That is it.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
We cannot worry about who's throwing the ball. We worry
about our route, our assignment, and getting our job done.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
That is it.
Speaker 10 (22:32):
If we're worried about who's throwing us the ball, or
who's up for this period or who's up for this play, like,
that's losing football.
Speaker 16 (22:38):
It shouldn't matter who's throwing you in the ball?
Speaker 10 (22:40):
Right, Like, we're out there to do our job no
matter who's out there, and I think that's the most
important thing we can do, right cause also, if I
go out there, I run the wrong route quarterbacks looking
to throw me the ball, right, that's a waste to
rep for him. So you can't take food out of
other people's mouths to feed yourself.
Speaker 16 (22:54):
You gotta worry about what you're doing.
Speaker 17 (22:56):
And that's it.
Speaker 18 (22:57):
How much does it help your gust? We talked about
it with the one Jones a lot, But your guys,
how much does it help them to be going against
Miles Garrett and happened to help out with him and
figure out, like how to help that left tackle.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
Out When you're playing a ninety nine rated player on
man right, one of the best players in the league
as a rusher, that only makes you better, right, And
it can get a little bit morelized on when you're
losing a lot, right and you're like, oh my god,
But you also watch them go out there and do
it against everybody else, and you can realize that you're
getting better because.
Speaker 17 (23:25):
You're playing somebody so good.
Speaker 16 (23:26):
So it only competition breeds competition.
Speaker 10 (23:29):
Competition makes everybody better, and I think when you have
the opportunity to go against such a great player, it's
only gonna raise your confidence when you win win that rep. Right,
So I think that's always something that I'm I'm super
happy to have him on our team.
Speaker 16 (23:42):
It only helps us, only helps us.
Speaker 20 (23:45):
I talked to bay or Harold Bawling Green and he
sort of just talked about when he transitioned because he
didn't lay tight end in high school and sweat sight end.
One of the things that you really noticed was just
top of the gregue, he kind of picked up on things.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
There's some example of that terrible and he's.
Speaker 18 (24:01):
Been pret quickly or he goes to the stage.
Speaker 16 (24:03):
Yeah, I mean, I I had to get used to
how he learns.
Speaker 10 (24:07):
But I mean, you you walk him through something, once
you you tell him something, once you show him some film,
you get him out there, get him moving and doing it,
and he'll have it locked in.
Speaker 9 (24:15):
Right.
Speaker 10 (24:15):
He takes good notes, He really focuses in, he pays attention,
and I think it's just if you tell him something,
he locks it in. He's ready to go or and
what he doesn't do is make the same mistake twice,
and that's really encouraging, right, I Mean, somebody's learning and
locking things in and remembering it for the next time they.
Speaker 16 (24:29):
Have to apply it.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
So I think that's something that's been really really fun
to see in.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
College when he was mean, it was obvious on the tape,
like how creative?
Speaker 11 (24:36):
What pass catch was?
Speaker 20 (24:38):
What are you guys looking forward him to sort of
develop even more of a blocker.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
Well, he's actually a really good blocker. He's stronger than
you would think, he's very solid, and what he does
really good is he has really good hand placement. I
mean he naturally puts his hands right on the right
on the breastplate. His hands are usually always inside, and
he has a good feet. So I would say it's
just him continuing to bowk up, continuing to get stronger
and grow as.
Speaker 16 (25:02):
A He's still developing.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
He just turned twenty one about two weeks ago or
something like that. So just it's it's him developing and
aiding in his development as a physical person and as
a as a body, right, And that's where I'm looking
for As far as a blocker, there's always little things, right,
It's loading your outside foot to get game ground on
the first step.
Speaker 16 (25:19):
It's always a little details with blocking that can help him.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
But he's got the basics down and that's something you
can work with.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Even and Herald, are you two great pass catching titles.
Speaker 20 (25:29):
What do you think having them both on the field
at the same time potentially could do for the Solfings.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
They're great pass catchers, but they're also great blockers, and
I think that helps more so than just being a
great pass catcher.
Speaker 16 (25:40):
It's a great question.
Speaker 10 (25:42):
But if you got two guys out there that can
do both things, then the defense doesn't know how to
line up. They don't know what personnel will put out there,
what covers the play, and that only helps the offense.
So I'd say that's the biggest part of it is
that they can both. They can do both, and that
helps everybody on the field, you know, kind of going off.
How does that self quarterbacks and helping them out more off.
Speaker 16 (26:07):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
It means more breather players.
Speaker 16 (26:11):
For the quarterback.
Speaker 10 (26:12):
That means that he can take his mind off. Right,
we can hand the ball off, let it run, let
him have a.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
Breather of play.
Speaker 10 (26:17):
We can go with an RPO, we can go with
a naked that's more of a breathing play right. He
has more options for play calls. He doesn't have to
worry about, Hey, I gotta worry about this drop back
pass or every time we're in this personnel, we're dropping
back right. We can do anything out of that personnel,
which makes his job easier because it makes the defensive
job hard.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Up next, defensive tackle Malik Collins talks about how he's
been a mentor to rookie Mason Graham.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
What's a transition like for you, you know, signing here
for you agen see somebody.
Speaker 11 (26:45):
It's been a right transition.
Speaker 19 (26:46):
I didn't get to get a lot of that off
season up here in Cleveland, but uh, just adjusting to
it now, studying the playbook and catching up on a
lot of films.
Speaker 11 (26:56):
I'll work with Jock before, so that's helpful that familiar face.
Speaker 14 (26:59):
Yeah, working Mason grown incite a lot.
Speaker 11 (27:02):
What's that been like when t make.
Speaker 9 (27:04):
Him get u s the NFL as you get.
Speaker 11 (27:06):
Used to see, It's been fun.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
You know.
Speaker 19 (27:08):
I trained with Mason a lot of this off season two,
so working with him and seeing how he moved and
you know, just pushing each other to get better.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
What do you think thinks he's asking you.
Speaker 11 (27:19):
Uh, I mean he has a lot of things, but
you know, we just we going there. We have fun.
Speaker 19 (27:23):
We really just vibe off each other and just create
our create our vibe. How we wanna how we wanna
rush together, how we wanna play together? Type of swag?
We wanna play with care.
Speaker 11 (27:34):
So he talked to how did working out with him
and Sawston come together? This one that he suggested, And
he suggested that, I mean, he really suggested it. He
was just like, hey, ro I'm pulling up. So I
was s I was surprised, but uh, you know, I
was happy to I was happy to have him there.
I was even Houston or yeah it was in Houston.
Speaker 9 (27:49):
What do you think she's.
Speaker 19 (27:52):
I don't believe in putting ceilings on nobody. You know,
the skies, the limit. What was it been for you
to click drew me to Cleveland? That I got cut
and then uh but then you know, having Jack here
was a big help, having sworts in this this type
of defense. I think it fitsed me perfectly. And you know,
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I was happy that they wanted me as well.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Did did the kind of win inside. Either you got
cut or you it's like.
Speaker 19 (28:18):
Nah, I wouldn't bother side. All I knew exactly knew
exactly what was going on.
Speaker 12 (28:23):
And you're talking about the system fitting you, and Mason's
talked about the switch, you know from kind.
Speaker 17 (28:29):
Of re reacting your Michigan.
Speaker 12 (28:31):
So how do you help him kind of bridge that
gap to just attack attack like Jim want House.
Speaker 19 (28:37):
I think, I think I I've never played in any
other system, so I only know one way of playing.
So I think I think for him it's just like
to remove a thought or having like to play like
step with blocks and things like that, and just think
about getting off the ball. Just keep things simple. Getting
off the ball. It's the first thing playing with pad level.
Bring your hands on all the punts, things like that,
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can hold a lions.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Obviously he gets double team. He'll throw so much animal
and you Mason little there or it seems like it kind.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
Of takes some pressure on him. Yeah, for sure. It
just it just comes down to you know, winning your
one on ones.
Speaker 19 (29:13):
If you if you win your one on ones and
having production out of it, then that's obviously gonna draw
a guy from Miles, or draw a guy.
Speaker 11 (29:19):
From Mason or whoever else it might be. I think
also schematically.
Speaker 19 (29:23):
You know Sworts is you know, he he's an aggressive,
aggressive guy, aggressive play caller. You know he had dial
up things and that they creates one on ones for
all of us across the board.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Sh Shorts, I mean he'll kind of line guys up everywhere.
He'll do like he'll do like full line changes in
the middle of a drive. What what are you kind
of expecting to to do this year?
Speaker 19 (29:45):
I'm expected that I'm I'm really open to doing whatever
whatever it takes to win. I played for guys that
they were kind of understudies or swarts in this system,
whether it was in Houston with with Miko or in
uh In uh San Francis last year with out there
with uh Chris, they all came from like source the scheme.
Speaker 11 (30:04):
So you know, just seeing that, you.
Speaker 20 (30:07):
Kind of feel like the defense is gonna go as
you guys up, the groups sort of go and you
guys are coming.
Speaker 11 (30:12):
To drivers for sure. That's why they call us the engine.
Speaker 16 (30:17):
What what's it like.
Speaker 12 (30:19):
Being next to Miles or even on that same line,
is Miles is a defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 19 (30:25):
Yeah, I mean you get here, you you hear all
the things about Miles and then you see him go
to work.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
You see how he come to work every day.
Speaker 19 (30:31):
You see the band, the ability he has, you know,
and it's just like, you know, it's just kind of
mind bowing to see a guy come out here and work.
Like we walked in the other day and he was
already out there doing get offs and I'm like, damn,
I gotta i gotta wake up earlier to beat him
to it. So, you know, just having having that type
of type of guy on the line, it's.
Speaker 12 (30:49):
I'm sure obviously you've seen him play for a long time,
but being up close, is there something like physically that
he does that really surprised you?
Speaker 17 (30:58):
Impressed you?
Speaker 19 (30:59):
I think you just really you gotta see it in person.
You can see the tape, but when you see it
in person and see them and see even more, is.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
It explosion or but but you name it, you see it,
you see it, and you you tell me what you see.
Speaker 14 (31:09):
You know, see, you have a couple of batter passes,
a training camps out there, that a step layer games
when you're working.
Speaker 11 (31:16):
I I just watched Shelby.
Speaker 19 (31:18):
You know, that's what's something he's always been known for,
you know, especially if you're in a like a splitter
position with two two guys on you or.
Speaker 11 (31:25):
Something like that. Getting a hand up can can affect
the game.
Speaker 12 (31:32):
Did you like, uh do liveblity it's the first time
tackling to the ground that they done under uh captain back.
Speaker 11 (31:38):
Yeah, I didn't mind it.
Speaker 19 (31:40):
When it's football, it's kind of the same for us
up front, it's just the runner back get in.
Speaker 11 (31:44):
Front of the attacking you know, or run to the
ball attacking him.
Speaker 12 (31:46):
So what do you learn about yourself and any defense
at this point?
Speaker 10 (31:52):
It?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Uh?
Speaker 19 (31:56):
I mean it's always continuous learning in the defense, just
seeing different ways you can run things and make things
become more available for you. For myself, it's just continuing
to try to perfect my career.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
You guys get your first practices next week.
Speaker 20 (32:10):
Obviously, how much do you value that in this time
of year to kind of get it just to go
against the team.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
And setting and you need to get away against yourself.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
I'm not really a fan of my practices only I've
only done one in my career, but I mean it
is what it is. It's on the schedule, so that's
what's up next.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Finally, linebacker my mood Diabate talks about how he's ready
to step into a larger role this season after the
retirement of Jordan Hicks and Jeremiah a Wusu Coromo is injury.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
How different does it feel this training care I mean,
what do you think back to it but two years
ago to now?
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Just I mean, is it feel like night and day?
You know, compared to what do you compare to the two?
Speaker 13 (32:54):
Yeah, it definitely definitely feels It's a different, different feeling,
you know, different stage, different stage in my career. But
it's it's still a train to camp. You know, it's exciting.
I still love to come out hand and work. It's
just like you said, it's a it's it's you're in
a different realm now, so it changes a little bit.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Then when uh saw you guys tackling to the ground
for first time under Kevin Stepanski the other as a linebacker. Yeah,
person talking a little bit about this's just how how
much fun or what other element does that at practice?
Speaker 13 (33:21):
Uh, it's exciting, you know, playing linebacker, we love physicality.
We wanna set that tone for the defense. So being
able to bring that out in practice and not having
a savor for the game is very valuable and and
I'm happy we we're able to do it, and you know,
we have a blast doing it, and knowing that you're
knowing that you were the.
Speaker 12 (33:37):
First bout almost keep a couple of years ago to break.
Now you're in such an important position with Jordana picture
firing and Jkay, it's how does that f How does
that feel?
Speaker 9 (33:46):
Just to get to this point in your career is
to kind of bring in circle.
Speaker 13 (33:50):
I mean, honestly just gives me more more motivation, Like
having more opportunities and being in a better position just
m just drives me more and confirms that, Okay, my
work is working.
Speaker 17 (33:58):
Just keep working.
Speaker 13 (33:59):
Uh keep my foot on the guys, don't slow down,
and uh I think everything's gonna work out.
Speaker 17 (34:03):
It's just it's just exactly how I should.
Speaker 14 (34:05):
You've been pointing around about the field through many camps
or any camps. What's been your life said of trank
be as aggressively you are before the season concerned.
Speaker 13 (34:14):
Uh just play ball, take take it the day at
a time, and uh D do my best at lead
of defense and show 'em not only by worries but
by example how I play and uh getting in shape,
getting ready for the season, just taking it, taking it
a day at a time, not looking at the big picture.
Speaker 17 (34:28):
And I think that's how you, uh can produce results.
Speaker 12 (34:30):
I know Kosch trver Is talked about using you different
spots as you gained more experience.
Speaker 9 (34:35):
Yeah, is there a role or a spot that you
prefer where you think.
Speaker 17 (34:39):
You're best hit? I'm best everywhere.
Speaker 13 (34:41):
Like I feel like I've just b I I've just
been adding more skills and skills as I've been here
and uh listening to coach Harbor, the best line back
coach in the NFL, He's he's just He's just allowed
me to grow and every aspect of the game mentally,
physically and uh confidence wise everything. So I'm ready to
make plays in any area of the field.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
How do you think, you guys, that's a really just
kept handled. So not having Jeremiah or Jordan out there
right now, and obviously from their contributions on the field
and also from leadership.
Speaker 13 (35:09):
For some uh you know, it's the next next man
of mentality both on the field and in and in
the leadership capacity.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Uh.
Speaker 13 (35:14):
You know jo Jordan Jordan's time here, I spent a
lot of time picking his brain. I spent a lot
of time with him. Used to go over his house
get treatment or y. We spend a lot of time together.
So uh, it was very valuable time. He taught me
a lot, and I'm gonna tell those lessons. I'm gonna
use him, uh to help the room and the team
be better.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
What's the most valuable thing you think, Hetorian?
Speaker 13 (35:31):
Just what I told you earlier. Take it to day
at a time. You know, we're not worrying about the
big picture. I'm worrying about what I could do today
in practice.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Did you can talk to him after he announced his retirement.
Speaker 13 (35:39):
Yeah, yeah, I I went over. We we sat there
and we talked for a good a good amount of
time and it was good.
Speaker 17 (35:43):
To talk to him. You know, we s we still
keep a touch.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
Did he give you any of his life into the year.
Speaker 17 (35:48):
I mean, yeah, I'll keep that. I'll keep that to myself.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
What's uh with with Jordan retiring? And obviously most like
Parsons go a marts play.
Speaker 16 (35:56):
Just what impressed you most about him?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
His rookie coming in and being him in trouble.
Speaker 17 (36:00):
I mean he's a he's a real cerebral player.
Speaker 13 (36:02):
I mean you could tell that from his profile, Uh,
going to UCLA, graduating or engineering. He's a very smart player.
He works very hard, as you could tell from being
a walk on the to to where he is now. Uh,
those are the two things that stands out. He works
like a dog, and he's he's very intelligent, very smart.
Speaker 14 (36:17):
When he lays out a a big hit like he's
kind of been doing the past couple of days. What
what do you say to him? What does he say
to you guys?
Speaker 13 (36:22):
I mean he doesn't even say much. He knows his
expectance and that that's the cool thing about Carson. He
just goes out there in balls and he he doesn't
say too much. No, I'm more of the guy I'm
gonna make it here. Ah that's not that's not really
his style.
Speaker 17 (36:34):
But I love it.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You know.
Speaker 13 (36:35):
He goes out there, he smashes somebody, he gets up
like it's a regular Tuesday, and goes back to next play.
Speaker 20 (36:40):
How much does he sort of lean on you guys
who lived with the most veterans to sort of you know,
still gainst and knowledge to be able to sort of
still so.
Speaker 13 (36:47):
Uh, he's the He's done a great job asking questions, Uh,
you know, asking us what we seeing this?
Speaker 17 (36:52):
How did you see that? How did you read that?
Speaker 13 (36:54):
He's just He's a very humble guy, and he wants
he wants to be he wants to be the best
of whatever capacity it is. He's not scared to ask questions.
He's answering questions quickly, and uh, He's been a joy
to being around.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Do you feel like people are kind of underrating this
linebacker room?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Who wotso?
Speaker 9 (37:09):
Jokay?
Speaker 17 (37:09):
And I mean, I'm sure they are, but like I said,
I don't really. We don't really worry about that. We
worry about We worry about going out there and pop bawlin.
Speaker 13 (37:17):
I'm sure there was a certain point of time people
don't necessarily look at Jeremiah as an All Pro player,
But the time came when you did, so the time
will come for the rest.
Speaker 17 (37:24):
Of us as well.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
That does it for today's from the Podium podcast. You
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to The From the Podium podcast
Welcome to the From the Podium podcast, where we feature
all of our daily press conferences rolled into one podcast
to help you get ready for the twenty twenty five
regular season. I'm Brock Danny, and on today's episode, you'll
hear from head coach Kevin Stefanski, linebacker's coach Jason Tarver,
tight ends coach Christian Jones, defensive tackle Malik Collins, and
(00:32):
linebacker Mamu Diabate. First up, head coach Kevin Stefanski provides
some injury updates.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Okay, excited to be back out here. I took a
little day yesterday, as you saw, got a bunch of
rain and cool down a little bit, but good. A
couple of practices coming up today and tomorrow, and then
we'll take another break before we get ready to head
down to Carolina. Injury front Kenny Pickett will be back
out there in a limited role today.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
He continues to progress.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And then you know, I think the guys are doing
a nice job understanding all the work that needs to
get done. Their their focused meetings have been excellent. So
looking forward to another good day. And and I'd be
remiss if I didn't mention Mary Kay, who's not here right,
she's she's down in Canton or on her way to Canton.
Unbelievable honor for Mary Kay well deserved. So congratulations again
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to her. But with that, I'll take any questions.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
He's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
When when you say limited for Kenny, will you not
be doing team stuff?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Correct?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Yeah, Kenny and Kevin with the h him coming back,
is your possibility that he would be by joint team workouts?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, I'm not gonna. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I need to see how it looks today. I'm not
gonna get too far past to.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
Kevin like he's still fully in the quarterback competition then
in your guys.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Eyes, and then competing for this for sure. Yeah, that's
kind of mentioned to you guys before.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I mean, obviously disappointed that he's not full go, but
he's very, very much.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
Involved in everything we're doing. He did a little easier
for a guy who's been in the league. I mean,
do you feel little more comfortable with that with a
guy who has been in the league before and gone
through the process.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Of get Yeah, I think so, Chris.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I think he's a player that's had a good amount
of NFL game exposure.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He's had a lot of reps going back.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Through the spring and what we've got gotten accomplished so
far through training camp. So uh yeah, of course you
don't want anybody to be missing action, dude, any injury
or that type of thing. But he's done a nice
job of staying very much engaged.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
Can you explain why you went to tackling this year
and we'll we see it again.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I think every year, Tony, you're looking at what your
football team needs, where you are from a bunch of
different perspectives, and feel like that's the uh you know,
it was the thing that we wanted to do in
a say it's also in a safe, controlled environment. Uh
So it's we've done it here before. It's something that
we'll look at over the next couple of days, potentially
doing again.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
Speaking of walking over over.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
The next couple of days, I thought Dave canarls that
they plan on playing their starters the first couple of
preseason games.
Speaker 9 (03:04):
Do you know yet what you guys?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, I have a pretty good feel for what we're
gonna do, but I want to number one, talk to
the team about it, uh and then also want to
see how it goes over the next few days as well.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
No, No, you guys usually cooperate as well.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, certainly cooperate in terms of the practice that we're
gonna have against each other, what we're gonna do when
we play each other. But Dave's gonna do what he
thinks is best for his team. I'll do it the
same for our team.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Do you anticipate narrowing the scope of this quarterback competition
before you get to Carolina or using that trip to
Carolina to helping for that time.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, I think for.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
All of our positions, every single day is an important
part of getting ready for the season and part of
the evaluation. So uh really, at every position, we'll use
these next today, Tomorrow, Monday, when we get down to Carolina.
All of it is in an effort to get ready
for Week one and evaluator players with the.
Speaker 9 (04:07):
Reason three day block.
Speaker 10 (04:09):
How much did you see the rookies rookie QB is
going to.
Speaker 11 (04:13):
Take advantage against their stings.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I think, you know, I would say our entire rookie
class is taking advantage of their reps. I've been impressed
with this group going all the way back to the spring.
I think they've worked extremely hard. We brought them in
early for the early report to get extra reps even
in that setting. So I really it's hard to narrow
it to one position because I've been so impressed by
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the entire group.
Speaker 12 (04:38):
With Milly Kellens, what do you think he adds to
the interior view line?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
A veteran player that that plays hard, very very technique sound.
He's made a few plays already in camp where you
can kind of see his ability to run games and
stunts is extremely high because he has so many reps
at it, and I think, you know that goes a
long way with some.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Of the young into that position as well.
Speaker 12 (05:01):
He talked about having working out with Mason in the break.
How valuable can that beat.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
A guy like Mason?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, that's invaluable.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know, having a guy that's been there, done that
at a high level can teach you all the tricks
of the trade. And also, you know, I give him
a leak a ton of credit just for his work ethic.
Just watch him go out here, how hard he practices.
Speaker 9 (05:20):
Ready for a go, I'm ready for larger than.
Speaker 13 (05:27):
A number of times.
Speaker 10 (05:27):
Yeahs he opened the eyes of Anyboddy that he's signed
to mind.
Speaker 11 (05:31):
Drafted free agent.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I think he's done a nice job Tony I
think gauge like a lot of his rookies, but he's
he's a very smart kid, so we can line him
up all over and then you know in football, when
you can catch a rock and make somebody miss and
then you know, those are things that get noticed. So
he's a he's been where he's supposed to be, which
is is a big part of being a rookie and
understanding your role.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
But he's also made plays with the bass. He's done
a nice show.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
I felt.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Have you seen his good from a cross standpoint these
last couple for.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
The years and obviously now majority of retiring, he treated
j Okay the opportunity opening up for him to kind
of carve out a role this year.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, my mood's a young player, but but I've seen
him get better each year. Uh, he's becoming more and
more comfortable. And you see that and maybe you hear
that as a vocal leader and when you're in the
center of the defense making calls, I think shows you
how how much he understands this scheme and and how
how comfortable he is in it. But I think he's
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he's a player that's progressing every single year, every single
day is out here getting better and better.
Speaker 10 (06:35):
Kevin.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
I don't think he's seen team drills the last few prexes.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The team injury right now is limited.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
He's coming along, but he's he'll he'll be fine, I.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Say, Danieally, haven't asked a question, but any update on
h on guys like Tevin and some of those guys
who have been sort of like Grant out the last
few days.
Speaker 9 (06:59):
No updates.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Everybody is right where we need them to be.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They're working hard, They're all on different timetables.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But pleased with the progress everybody's making.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Anybody's gonna be back in the field today.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Kenny Pickett gave you that one, CB.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
No, how do you how do you feel like the
guys attend to Yeah, I didn't that job, obviously. It's
it's our job as coaches to uh put it in
a controlled setting. It's it's not live in the quarterback obviously,
and there's still rules about that where you want to
still take care of your teammates. Things that you would
do in a game, you wouldn't necessarily do even in
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a live period versus your teamates.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
So the guys didn't that show.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Are we gonna see them around today and tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, potentially, it's it's again, it's a really day by
day basis of making decisions of what I think the
team needs.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
Did did they know that was coming? Yes?
Speaker 14 (07:53):
How do you see dabated Harold maybe getting the most
out of each other.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And David Bring and Harold A Yeah, I think Dave's
done a nice job as a teammate already, just with
a young player taking him under his wing and encouraging
him and and kind of you know, showing him the
ropes quote unquote. So uh, that's encouraging. And you know,
we like versatile football players. I think both those guys
can can be that for us. But yeah, I think
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it's a it's a really good balance between those two guys.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
What's the reason rolling one practice against Carolina?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, we haven't done I have not done a week
one practice versus teams before Tony, So just.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Felt like week one one day was the right amount.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
How do you feel like the youth players best?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Nay, Yeah, we love having the youth football players out here.
I remind our players all the time that they play
a kid's game. They're they're blessed and fortunate and lucky
to play a kid's game. I'm so lucky to coach
this game so we all can put ourselves in these
kids position. I remember going to training camp when I
was a kid and and what that feeling is like
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being around your hero.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
So we love having these kids out here.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Next, Linebacker's coach Jason Tarbart discusses how his competitive room
can continue to improve heading into week one.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Carson, just how much has he even surprised you with
his progress from when you you know you got him
first time in rookie Minnie Campton.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Now, yeah, he's he's so good at remembering and then
applying things as they occur, Like he'll surprise me to
be like coach, I remember we said this the second day,
so then he does it and that's cool. And when
he can stay in that process, that's really powerful because
he learns so fast.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Jordan just making that decision to retire and how it
impacts the room, and just you your thoughts on what
he did.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
Here lest we love Jordan's You know, he he gave
his When Jordan plays and played football, he gave his
all every single play he would for a player.
Speaker 15 (09:55):
He was always finishing in the pile, trying to get
the ball out for us.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
So that extreme effort is something that we all learned
from how to play the game the right way.
Speaker 15 (10:03):
And then you know, he's he's earned his right.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
He's he's played at the highest level for a really
long time and that's a great career and and that's
an honor to be able to do that. So we
you know, we we're he's gonna be watching us and
when he got some standards to live up too. So
we've learned a lot from them, players and coaches, and
we're gonna continue to use that as we go forward.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
Jerome's down one of the oldest, oldest in the room.
Speaker 15 (10:29):
So how is he kind of stepping into.
Speaker 9 (10:31):
The leadership roles he sorguis and what's he provided so far?
Speaker 8 (10:34):
Well, Jerome's seen a lot of things in football, from
all the way to college, from playing in space to
playing behind a box. Different schemes, hurt, a lot of
different words. So he's good at, oh, this is just this,
and then making it easy so he can play fast.
So that's one he needs to keep doing that.
Speaker 16 (10:48):
And then two.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
The last week, anytime you go to a new teenth,
there's an adjustment period and he's home and We're happy
he's home. It's excited, excited that that you know, he
can stay in this process and play in front of
all of us want to come home. I've had lots
of players over the years when they played their first
game it home. Oh my gosh, did they play well.
So I'm excited to see him do that. But in
the last week he's really gotten comfortable in this scheme
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and you can see him. He's really bursting and running.
Not that he wasn't before, but now it's that comfort.
So whatever it is, there's a learning curve and his
is moving up quickly. So we're excited about it.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
What about you guys, just you know, obviously paths are
on now. But the tackling to the ground we saw
the other day too, Like Carson really loved that. How
exciting is that for you as a linebackers coach because
it seems like those guys are there.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
Yeah, you've you've heard me say our mantra and that's
run because no matter what, we're going full speed, shed
and tackle the guy with the ball.
Speaker 16 (11:44):
So we get to do that full speed.
Speaker 15 (11:45):
So anytime we get to do that, yeah, I'm smiling.
Speaker 16 (11:47):
We're happy.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
But we got to do it the right way, of
course against our team, which is keeping everybody up and
higher tackles rather.
Speaker 15 (11:53):
Than lower tackles. But yeah, that the simulation of getting
off the block.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
And like one of the players, Carson is, he had
to get away from Joel and that's great because we know.
Speaker 15 (12:04):
Who Joel is and Joel can block pretty darn well.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
And he strained and he found his way off the block,
found his way to finish that tackle, and that's what
we want to see and he did it.
Speaker 15 (12:14):
So we'll just keep doing that. But that's playing football.
That's playing linebacker.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
I know it's next man of the challenges of you
lose Jeremiah and Jordan too received starters.
Speaker 15 (12:24):
And so now going into this what has to happen
for this year, and it's to really not miss a
be well.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
I'll start with some of the other guys we haven't
talked about. Devin Bush got into the system last year
and got better and better and better as he went
through the year, and he played all three positions my
mood played over five hundred snaps, played all three positions.
Winston Reid came in and gave us good snaps. Now
he's learning all three positions and then we get Nate,
who missed summit camp last year back, so we actually
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have players that have played in the scheme and now
they're able to play the other spots. So it gives
us a lot of flexibility in that all these young
guys are competing, but if somebody does a certain role better,
he may earn that role. So it's awesome in the
room right now. They're all learning it all and they're
hyper competitive to do anything to answer my questions to
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get the ball. And that's how we want it. We
want the competition and the guys have embraced the competition.
And let's see how this goes because it's fun to
watch right now.
Speaker 9 (13:25):
Jason George's retirement. You know, obviously he's a big leader.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Does that leadership almost have to spread out over multiple
people when you lose a player like that.
Speaker 9 (13:35):
It can't just doesn't just all on one guy like
Devon or Jerome. Does that sort of spread out to
multiple guys?
Speaker 8 (13:43):
Well, you've heard us say it. We're the nerve center
of the defense, but the linebackers are linebackers.
Speaker 15 (13:47):
That's our job.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
Our job is to get everybody lined up, make the call,
communicate and then make the D line right or where
whoever else right and get the guy on the ground.
Speaker 16 (13:55):
That's it.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
So not only has it done that, Like I brought
something up to him, Evan that are in the room,
and one of the players said, right back, coach, we'll
get seven of the seven of us to do that.
I go, that's the right answer. So they're all making calls.
They're all doing a good job with that stuff, like
you said. Like we've said, Carson as a rookie has
done a really good job with being able to handle.
Speaker 15 (14:18):
One time fixing things.
Speaker 16 (14:19):
The vocal.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
We were just in the indoor and when he was
making the front calls, it was echoing because we want
to be clear, it's and concise.
Speaker 15 (14:27):
We don't want to go left left of left, we
want to go left left, and you.
Speaker 16 (14:31):
Can hear it.
Speaker 8 (14:31):
It's getting louder every day for all of them. Winston
had something the other day was echoing. I told them,
so like, that's what I mean. We're all gonna have
to do it, and we like it that way.
Speaker 9 (14:40):
Touched on it a little bit of all the guys
learning all great positions.
Speaker 11 (14:43):
Yes, as you get into this part, but you like, are.
Speaker 14 (14:46):
You still evaluating that process or you kind of seen
more guys in their roles.
Speaker 9 (14:51):
I guess how do you evaluate this part.
Speaker 11 (14:53):
For that process?
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Well, I'll give an example like Devin last year when
he came in and it was his first year, he
was doing a little bit more of the space roles
more than like right in the middle of the defense.
Now he's doing it all. So as they get better
at what they are. Now, what's cool about that is
it gives us position flexibility. Right modern football, there's just
different body types rather than positions, and we want to
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all be able to do it all.
Speaker 15 (15:16):
We got to do the things the safeties do. They
gotta do the things the linebackers do.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
Okay, going towards now and what are the things that
you want to get together. What are the weaknesses that
you want to improve.
Speaker 17 (15:25):
On that you must have proved on by week one?
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Okay, so we're still we still got our two opportunities
to practice against other teams and then play against them.
So right now, the biggest thing for me is what
we talked about a little bit. It's shedding blocks and
getting too the ball. It's the real shedding. The difference
in the NFL is the big men versus college The
big guys are faster and stronger because they're they're grown
and they're trained. So we have got to get as
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younger men coming in the league. You've got to learn
how to do that. You got to learn how to strain.
You got to learn your distance to strike. So that's
the main focus right now, especially while we're in pads,
and then as we get to the season, it'll be
more learning the opponents. Right now, it's all about us,
and it always is all about us, but all about us.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
New tight ends coach Christian Jones is next and he
talks about the energy David Nijoku brings to the tight
end room.
Speaker 9 (16:13):
What do you learn about I mean.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
David's a physical guy.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
Herold's a physical guy.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
What do you learn about those guys when you go
live like he did the other day.
Speaker 16 (16:20):
I think you see a lot of things.
Speaker 10 (16:21):
I think you see how strong Dave is, how his
physical traits really helped him in the blocking game, but
also how his physicality helps him get open to the
passing game. Because guys see him moving so fast to
get to his blocks, to get on guys, to get
on defensive ends that they assume he's just blocking and
then he's out and his speed helps him get open.
When you get full pads on, everybody's moving slower, but
you got more to grab onto him, more to push
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off of, and I think that helps him get open
down the field. And as far as Harold goes, I mean,
you see a balanced player, somebody who's willing to strike,
somebody who's willing to get up on somebody, put his
hands on him, lean his shoulder into somebody, get lower
than them, lift them up out of the ground, lift
them up out of the ground, lift them up out
of their pads, right, move them out of the gap.
I think you watch somebody that's willing to do multiple things,
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and he's able to do multiple things, and I think
that's something that's really gonna help us down in the season.
Speaker 14 (17:08):
Between David and Harold end up.
Speaker 17 (17:10):
Complimenting with each other, and it's a great question.
Speaker 16 (17:13):
They're different in a lot of their ways.
Speaker 10 (17:14):
But Dave offers a lot more physicality, a bigger body, right, something,
a bigger target for the quarterback to throw the ball to,
and he's still fast enough to get open down the field.
And I think Harold offers you something, right, somebody who
can be in the backfield, run routes out of the backfield,
block out of the backfield. Line up at number one,
run a route and versus a corner.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
Right.
Speaker 10 (17:33):
So you've just got a lot of versatility from those guys,
and you have a willingness from them to do those things.
And I think that's what helps an offense.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Right.
Speaker 10 (17:41):
If a guy says I'm not doing this, then that
takes catches or touches away from themselves, Right, I don't
want to block on this play, Well, we can't use
you on this past this play action. So I think
you got two guys that are really willing and that
only makes our job easier when it comes to playing games.
Speaker 12 (17:57):
Drill Harold had a real nice running catching like and
I'll just scouts. You talked about that when you drafted him.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
You see it there? Have you seen it? Other examples
of just how good he can be with the ball
in his hands.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
I would say that's the first thing we saw when
we're watching him on college film, is how good he
was with the ball in his hands.
Speaker 16 (18:15):
His instincts for setting up blocks.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
I think that's something you'll see on that long play
he had where he kind of leaned the defender into
the block and then cut right under him, right, And
that's something you see with him. He's got a vision,
he's able to run with the ball, and he he's
a he's a one cut runner. He doesn't bounce around,
dance around. He's trying to get the yards that he
can and get down And like I said, I think
somebody asks me this a while ago. Right, that adds up, right,
that that becomes a successful season because those quick decisions
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add up to more yards, more plays, and hopefully more wins.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
For their team. Christian David and Joe Flacco has such
a nice chemistry and twenty twenty three, I know David
has such a big personality. Puts in some videos of
him and Joe, right, Joe's just sitting there laughing, like,
how have you seen those guys interact?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
And and you kind of continue that so far.
Speaker 16 (19:00):
I think it's a mutual respect.
Speaker 10 (19:02):
I think it's something where Dave really respects Joe and
he you know, leans on him for a lot of things.
Speaker 16 (19:07):
And I think that's something that has been good to see.
Speaker 17 (19:09):
Right.
Speaker 10 (19:09):
He has a role model that he respects and trusts,
and that's always something you'd like to see and even
for an eight year vet, right, somebody who's been in
the league that long, he still looks for God and
looks for guys to bounce ideas off of talk to.
And he's a very sociable person, right, So him getting
Joe Flacco out there hanging out with him as always
great to see.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
Right.
Speaker 16 (19:26):
That means you got a close team on the other
side of that.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
Have you seen David kind of bring your harrow goll
on since he's been here.
Speaker 16 (19:33):
I would say the whole tight End group has done that.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
I think everybody in the group has kind of come
together and just kind of taken on working with him,
helping him out, helping him learn what it means to
be a pro. And I think it's on Harrold too, Right,
He's got to make the decision to be a professional
player and do everything that mean, do what it means
to be a pro, whether it's in the building or
outside the building. So he's got great role models in
that room. He's got Brendan Bates who's in his second year,
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Blake's in his third, Dave's in his eighth. Misal has
been playing ball for so long, he's been in and
out and he's been doing for a long time, so
he's got a lot of guys to lean on and
ask questions.
Speaker 16 (20:06):
And I think that's only gonna benefit him.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
What is the the energy that David brahamy We see
it every day? What does that do for you guys?
Speaker 18 (20:13):
Is you're going through camp, it's hot, and you guys
are getting guys are starting to work.
Speaker 17 (20:16):
Down a little bit.
Speaker 10 (20:17):
He breaks the monotoni. Yeah, he breaks the monani. You
walk in that room, you never know what's gonna happen.
The energy's gonna bring what he's gonna say, he's gonna do.
And that's it benefits everybody, right cause you know, you
get you get used to hearing me talk. It starts
to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher. Right, It's just a
bunch of murmurs. And you're like, I, I can't do
this anymore. You start to doze off and then your
eyes start closing, and and he'll pop in with some energy. Right,
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He'll turn on a rock song and they'll start dancing
around and getting other guys up.
Speaker 16 (20:43):
And it just he helps break the monani.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
Right.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
I can do what I can, but players have to
find their own way out of it, and he does
it for them and that's super helpful.
Speaker 12 (20:51):
How much you're looking forward to seeing Harold in preseason games?
And what are you looking for him in those outings?
Speaker 16 (20:58):
I just wanna see him go compete.
Speaker 10 (21:00):
I just wanna see him compete, see him go out
strike guys that are in different, you know, color jerseys
than him. I wanna see him show what he can
do with the ball in his hands. Right, he's a
very balanced runner. So now you're facing somebody that's really
gonna try and tackle you, gonna bring you down, right,
there's no rules just we don't have the same rules
out on this field as we do out there. Right,
So are you gonna make that tough catch from the
balls and there somebody's coming at you. Are you gonna
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make that one cut and get up the field or
are you gonna dance around and lose his five or
four or five yards? So I think that's something I'm
looking forward to seeing.
Speaker 19 (21:28):
What's something that you've seen in the Herald that you
didn't expect in coming out of college at Ballenbreem when
adopted camp.
Speaker 10 (21:34):
You said, Wow, that's a great question. I would say
the depth of knowledge that he has and that he
leans on. Right, you meet with him and you're like,
I can tell this guy smart. You could tell he
thinks through things very well. I think it's more so
like because he plays safety in high school before he
got to college to play tight end, so he leans
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on a lot of his defensive knowledge for how he plays.
Speaker 16 (21:59):
Right, I'll I'll watch film, like, you know, what would
you be thinking of you that safety? And he'll just
give you an answer quick.
Speaker 10 (22:04):
Right, He's able to lean on a lot of his
experience to help him be an effective player. And that's
that's super encouraging, that's extra Yes, absolutely, Yeah, chemistry is
one thing.
Speaker 14 (22:13):
But how can your unit specifically can help these quarterbacks,
for quarterbacks in this competition, help them come along, get
the most out of them as they're looking for that
week one starter?
Speaker 16 (22:23):
What can your unit do and we do our job?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That is it.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
We cannot worry about who's throwing the ball. We worry
about our route, our assignment, and getting our job done.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
That is it.
Speaker 10 (22:32):
If we're worried about who's throwing us the ball, or
who's up for this period or who's up for this play, like,
that's losing football.
Speaker 16 (22:38):
It shouldn't matter who's throwing you in the ball?
Speaker 10 (22:40):
Right, Like, we're out there to do our job no
matter who's out there, and I think that's the most
important thing we can do, right cause also, if I
go out there, I run the wrong route quarterbacks looking
to throw me the ball, right, that's a waste to
rep for him. So you can't take food out of
other people's mouths to feed yourself.
Speaker 16 (22:54):
You gotta worry about what you're doing.
Speaker 17 (22:56):
And that's it.
Speaker 18 (22:57):
How much does it help your gust? We talked about
it with the one Jones a lot, But your guys,
how much does it help them to be going against
Miles Garrett and happened to help out with him and
figure out, like how to help that left tackle.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
Out When you're playing a ninety nine rated player on
man right, one of the best players in the league
as a rusher, that only makes you better, right, And
it can get a little bit morelized on when you're
losing a lot, right and you're like, oh my god,
But you also watch them go out there and do
it against everybody else, and you can realize that you're
getting better because.
Speaker 17 (23:25):
You're playing somebody so good.
Speaker 16 (23:26):
So it only competition breeds competition.
Speaker 10 (23:29):
Competition makes everybody better, and I think when you have
the opportunity to go against such a great player, it's
only gonna raise your confidence when you win win that rep. Right,
So I think that's always something that I'm I'm super
happy to have him on our team.
Speaker 16 (23:42):
It only helps us, only helps us.
Speaker 20 (23:45):
I talked to bay or Harold Bawling Green and he
sort of just talked about when he transitioned because he
didn't lay tight end in high school and sweat sight end.
One of the things that you really noticed was just
top of the gregue, he kind of picked up on things.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
There's some example of that terrible and he's.
Speaker 18 (24:01):
Been pret quickly or he goes to the stage.
Speaker 16 (24:03):
Yeah, I mean, I I had to get used to
how he learns.
Speaker 10 (24:07):
But I mean, you you walk him through something, once
you you tell him something, once you show him some film,
you get him out there, get him moving and doing it,
and he'll have it locked in.
Speaker 9 (24:15):
Right.
Speaker 10 (24:15):
He takes good notes, He really focuses in, he pays attention,
and I think it's just if you tell him something,
he locks it in. He's ready to go or and
what he doesn't do is make the same mistake twice,
and that's really encouraging, right, I Mean, somebody's learning and
locking things in and remembering it for the next time they.
Speaker 16 (24:29):
Have to apply it.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
So I think that's something that's been really really fun
to see in.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
College when he was mean, it was obvious on the tape,
like how creative?
Speaker 11 (24:36):
What pass catch was?
Speaker 20 (24:38):
What are you guys looking forward him to sort of
develop even more of a blocker.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
Well, he's actually a really good blocker. He's stronger than
you would think, he's very solid, and what he does
really good is he has really good hand placement. I
mean he naturally puts his hands right on the right
on the breastplate. His hands are usually always inside, and
he has a good feet. So I would say it's
just him continuing to bowk up, continuing to get stronger
and grow as.
Speaker 16 (25:02):
A He's still developing.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
He just turned twenty one about two weeks ago or
something like that. So just it's it's him developing and
aiding in his development as a physical person and as
a as a body, right, And that's where I'm looking
for As far as a blocker, there's always little things, right,
It's loading your outside foot to get game ground on
the first step.
Speaker 16 (25:19):
It's always a little details with blocking that can help him.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
But he's got the basics down and that's something you
can work with.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Even and Herald, are you two great pass catching titles.
Speaker 20 (25:29):
What do you think having them both on the field
at the same time potentially could do for the Solfings.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
They're great pass catchers, but they're also great blockers, and
I think that helps more so than just being a
great pass catcher.
Speaker 16 (25:40):
It's a great question.
Speaker 10 (25:42):
But if you got two guys out there that can
do both things, then the defense doesn't know how to
line up. They don't know what personnel will put out there,
what covers the play, and that only helps the offense.
So I'd say that's the biggest part of it is
that they can both. They can do both, and that
helps everybody on the field, you know, kind of going off.
How does that self quarterbacks and helping them out more off.
Speaker 16 (26:07):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
It means more breather players.
Speaker 16 (26:11):
For the quarterback.
Speaker 10 (26:12):
That means that he can take his mind off. Right,
we can hand the ball off, let it run, let
him have a.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
Breather of play.
Speaker 10 (26:17):
We can go with an RPO, we can go with
a naked that's more of a breathing play right. He
has more options for play calls. He doesn't have to
worry about, Hey, I gotta worry about this drop back
pass or every time we're in this personnel, we're dropping
back right. We can do anything out of that personnel,
which makes his job easier because it makes the defensive
job hard.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Up next, defensive tackle Malik Collins talks about how he's
been a mentor to rookie Mason Graham.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
What's a transition like for you, you know, signing here
for you agen see somebody.
Speaker 11 (26:45):
It's been a right transition.
Speaker 19 (26:46):
I didn't get to get a lot of that off
season up here in Cleveland, but uh, just adjusting to
it now, studying the playbook and catching up on a
lot of films.
Speaker 11 (26:56):
I'll work with Jock before, so that's helpful that familiar face.
Speaker 14 (26:59):
Yeah, working Mason grown incite a lot.
Speaker 11 (27:02):
What's that been like when t make.
Speaker 9 (27:04):
Him get u s the NFL as you get.
Speaker 11 (27:06):
Used to see, It's been fun.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
You know.
Speaker 19 (27:08):
I trained with Mason a lot of this off season two,
so working with him and seeing how he moved and
you know, just pushing each other to get better.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
What do you think thinks he's asking you.
Speaker 11 (27:19):
Uh, I mean he has a lot of things, but
you know, we just we going there. We have fun.
Speaker 19 (27:23):
We really just vibe off each other and just create
our create our vibe. How we wanna how we wanna
rush together, how we wanna play together? Type of swag?
We wanna play with care.
Speaker 11 (27:34):
So he talked to how did working out with him
and Sawston come together? This one that he suggested, And
he suggested that, I mean, he really suggested it. He
was just like, hey, ro I'm pulling up. So I
was s I was surprised, but uh, you know, I
was happy to I was happy to have him there.
I was even Houston or yeah it was in Houston.
Speaker 9 (27:49):
What do you think she's.
Speaker 19 (27:52):
I don't believe in putting ceilings on nobody. You know,
the skies, the limit. What was it been for you
to click drew me to Cleveland? That I got cut
and then uh but then you know, having Jack here
was a big help, having sworts in this this type
of defense. I think it fitsed me perfectly. And you know,
(28:14):
I was happy that they wanted me as well.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Did did the kind of win inside. Either you got
cut or you it's like.
Speaker 19 (28:18):
Nah, I wouldn't bother side. All I knew exactly knew
exactly what was going on.
Speaker 12 (28:23):
And you're talking about the system fitting you, and Mason's
talked about the switch, you know from kind.
Speaker 17 (28:29):
Of re reacting your Michigan.
Speaker 12 (28:31):
So how do you help him kind of bridge that
gap to just attack attack like Jim want House.
Speaker 19 (28:37):
I think, I think I I've never played in any
other system, so I only know one way of playing.
So I think I think for him it's just like
to remove a thought or having like to play like
step with blocks and things like that, and just think
about getting off the ball. Just keep things simple. Getting
off the ball. It's the first thing playing with pad level.
Bring your hands on all the punts, things like that,
(29:00):
can hold a lions.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Obviously he gets double team. He'll throw so much animal
and you Mason little there or it seems like it kind.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
Of takes some pressure on him. Yeah, for sure. It
just it just comes down to you know, winning your
one on ones.
Speaker 19 (29:13):
If you if you win your one on ones and
having production out of it, then that's obviously gonna draw
a guy from Miles, or draw a guy.
Speaker 11 (29:19):
From Mason or whoever else it might be. I think
also schematically.
Speaker 19 (29:23):
You know Sworts is you know, he he's an aggressive,
aggressive guy, aggressive play caller. You know he had dial
up things and that they creates one on ones for
all of us across the board.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Sh Shorts, I mean he'll kind of line guys up everywhere.
He'll do like he'll do like full line changes in
the middle of a drive. What what are you kind
of expecting to to do this year?
Speaker 19 (29:45):
I'm expected that I'm I'm really open to doing whatever
whatever it takes to win. I played for guys that
they were kind of understudies or swarts in this system,
whether it was in Houston with with Miko or in
uh In uh San Francis last year with out there
with uh Chris, they all came from like source the scheme.
Speaker 11 (30:04):
So you know, just seeing that, you.
Speaker 20 (30:07):
Kind of feel like the defense is gonna go as
you guys up, the groups sort of go and you
guys are coming.
Speaker 11 (30:12):
To drivers for sure. That's why they call us the engine.
Speaker 16 (30:17):
What what's it like.
Speaker 12 (30:19):
Being next to Miles or even on that same line,
is Miles is a defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 19 (30:25):
Yeah, I mean you get here, you you hear all
the things about Miles and then you see him go
to work.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
You see how he come to work every day.
Speaker 19 (30:31):
You see the band, the ability he has, you know,
and it's just like, you know, it's just kind of
mind bowing to see a guy come out here and work.
Like we walked in the other day and he was
already out there doing get offs and I'm like, damn,
I gotta i gotta wake up earlier to beat him
to it. So, you know, just having having that type
of type of guy on the line, it's.
Speaker 12 (30:49):
I'm sure obviously you've seen him play for a long time,
but being up close, is there something like physically that
he does that really surprised you?
Speaker 17 (30:58):
Impressed you?
Speaker 19 (30:59):
I think you just really you gotta see it in person.
You can see the tape, but when you see it
in person and see them and see even more, is.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
It explosion or but but you name it, you see it,
you see it, and you you tell me what you see.
Speaker 14 (31:09):
You know, see, you have a couple of batter passes,
a training camps out there, that a step layer games
when you're working.
Speaker 11 (31:16):
I I just watched Shelby.
Speaker 19 (31:18):
You know, that's what's something he's always been known for,
you know, especially if you're in a like a splitter
position with two two guys on you or.
Speaker 11 (31:25):
Something like that. Getting a hand up can can affect
the game.
Speaker 12 (31:32):
Did you like, uh do liveblity it's the first time
tackling to the ground that they done under uh captain back.
Speaker 11 (31:38):
Yeah, I didn't mind it.
Speaker 19 (31:40):
When it's football, it's kind of the same for us
up front, it's just the runner back get in.
Speaker 11 (31:44):
Front of the attacking you know, or run to the
ball attacking him.
Speaker 12 (31:46):
So what do you learn about yourself and any defense
at this point?
Speaker 10 (31:52):
It?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Uh?
Speaker 19 (31:56):
I mean it's always continuous learning in the defense, just
seeing different ways you can run things and make things
become more available for you. For myself, it's just continuing
to try to perfect my career.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
You guys get your first practices next week.
Speaker 20 (32:10):
Obviously, how much do you value that in this time
of year to kind of get it just to go
against the team.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
And setting and you need to get away against yourself.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
I'm not really a fan of my practices only I've
only done one in my career, but I mean it
is what it is. It's on the schedule, so that's
what's up next.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Finally, linebacker my mood Diabate talks about how he's ready
to step into a larger role this season after the
retirement of Jordan Hicks and Jeremiah a Wusu Coromo is injury.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
How different does it feel this training care I mean,
what do you think back to it but two years
ago to now?
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Just I mean, is it feel like night and day?
You know, compared to what do you compare to the two?
Speaker 13 (32:54):
Yeah, it definitely definitely feels It's a different, different feeling,
you know, different stage, different stage in my career. But
it's it's still a train to camp. You know, it's exciting.
I still love to come out hand and work. It's
just like you said, it's a it's it's you're in
a different realm now, so it changes a little bit.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Then when uh saw you guys tackling to the ground
for first time under Kevin Stepanski the other as a linebacker. Yeah,
person talking a little bit about this's just how how
much fun or what other element does that at practice?
Speaker 13 (33:21):
Uh, it's exciting, you know, playing linebacker, we love physicality.
We wanna set that tone for the defense. So being
able to bring that out in practice and not having
a savor for the game is very valuable and and
I'm happy we we're able to do it, and you know,
we have a blast doing it, and knowing that you're
knowing that you were the.
Speaker 12 (33:37):
First bout almost keep a couple of years ago to break.
Now you're in such an important position with Jordana picture
firing and Jkay, it's how does that f How does
that feel?
Speaker 9 (33:46):
Just to get to this point in your career is
to kind of bring in circle.
Speaker 13 (33:50):
I mean, honestly just gives me more more motivation, Like
having more opportunities and being in a better position just
m just drives me more and confirms that, Okay, my
work is working.
Speaker 17 (33:58):
Just keep working.
Speaker 13 (33:59):
Uh keep my foot on the guys, don't slow down,
and uh I think everything's gonna work out.
Speaker 17 (34:03):
It's just it's just exactly how I should.
Speaker 14 (34:05):
You've been pointing around about the field through many camps
or any camps. What's been your life said of trank
be as aggressively you are before the season concerned.
Speaker 13 (34:14):
Uh just play ball, take take it the day at
a time, and uh D do my best at lead
of defense and show 'em not only by worries but
by example how I play and uh getting in shape,
getting ready for the season, just taking it, taking it
a day at a time, not looking at the big picture.
Speaker 17 (34:28):
And I think that's how you, uh can produce results.
Speaker 12 (34:30):
I know Kosch trver Is talked about using you different
spots as you gained more experience.
Speaker 9 (34:35):
Yeah, is there a role or a spot that you
prefer where you think.
Speaker 17 (34:39):
You're best hit? I'm best everywhere.
Speaker 13 (34:41):
Like I feel like I've just b I I've just
been adding more skills and skills as I've been here
and uh listening to coach Harbor, the best line back
coach in the NFL, He's he's just He's just allowed
me to grow and every aspect of the game mentally,
physically and uh confidence wise everything. So I'm ready to
make plays in any area of the field.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
How do you think, you guys, that's a really just
kept handled. So not having Jeremiah or Jordan out there
right now, and obviously from their contributions on the field
and also from leadership.
Speaker 13 (35:09):
For some uh you know, it's the next next man
of mentality both on the field and in and in
the leadership capacity.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Uh.
Speaker 13 (35:14):
You know jo Jordan Jordan's time here, I spent a
lot of time picking his brain. I spent a lot
of time with him. Used to go over his house
get treatment or y. We spend a lot of time together.
So uh, it was very valuable time. He taught me
a lot, and I'm gonna tell those lessons. I'm gonna
use him, uh to help the room and the team
be better.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
What's the most valuable thing you think, Hetorian?
Speaker 13 (35:31):
Just what I told you earlier. Take it to day
at a time. You know, we're not worrying about the
big picture. I'm worrying about what I could do today
in practice.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Did you can talk to him after he announced his retirement.
Speaker 13 (35:39):
Yeah, yeah, I I went over. We we sat there
and we talked for a good a good amount of
time and it was good.
Speaker 17 (35:43):
To talk to him. You know, we s we still
keep a touch.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
Did he give you any of his life into the year.
Speaker 17 (35:48):
I mean, yeah, I'll keep that. I'll keep that to myself.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
What's uh with with Jordan retiring? And obviously most like
Parsons go a marts play.
Speaker 16 (35:56):
Just what impressed you most about him?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
His rookie coming in and being him in trouble.
Speaker 17 (36:00):
I mean he's a he's a real cerebral player.
Speaker 13 (36:02):
I mean you could tell that from his profile, Uh,
going to UCLA, graduating or engineering. He's a very smart player.
He works very hard, as you could tell from being
a walk on the to to where he is now. Uh,
those are the two things that stands out. He works
like a dog, and he's he's very intelligent, very smart.
Speaker 14 (36:17):
When he lays out a a big hit like he's
kind of been doing the past couple of days. What
what do you say to him? What does he say
to you guys?
Speaker 13 (36:22):
I mean he doesn't even say much. He knows his
expectance and that that's the cool thing about Carson. He
just goes out there in balls and he he doesn't
say too much. No, I'm more of the guy I'm
gonna make it here. Ah that's not that's not really
his style.
Speaker 17 (36:34):
But I love it.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You know.
Speaker 13 (36:35):
He goes out there, he smashes somebody, he gets up
like it's a regular Tuesday, and goes back to next play.
Speaker 20 (36:40):
How much does he sort of lean on you guys
who lived with the most veterans to sort of you know,
still gainst and knowledge to be able to sort of
still so.
Speaker 13 (36:47):
Uh, he's the He's done a great job asking questions, Uh,
you know, asking us what we seeing this?
Speaker 17 (36:52):
How did you see that? How did you read that?
Speaker 13 (36:54):
He's just He's a very humble guy, and he wants
he wants to be he wants to be the best
of whatever capacity it is. He's not scared to ask questions.
He's answering questions quickly, and uh, He's been a joy
to being around.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Do you feel like people are kind of underrating this
linebacker room?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Who wotso?
Speaker 9 (37:09):
Jokay?
Speaker 17 (37:09):
And I mean, I'm sure they are, but like I said,
I don't really. We don't really worry about that. We
worry about We worry about going out there and pop bawlin.
Speaker 13 (37:17):
I'm sure there was a certain point of time people
don't necessarily look at Jeremiah as an All Pro player,
But the time came when you did, so the time
will come for the rest.
Speaker 17 (37:24):
Of us as well.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
That does it for today's from the Podium podcast. You
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