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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Commanders Raiders, Yes we will, and I challenge you to
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Alligating with sweater.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yes, white and white glove sometimes you got. I was
watching football all weekend. Be blood, Yeah, reliving what used
to be the past, all right, had to feel feel
brady like. There's nothing like grabbing the beverage.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
He's not going anywhere. You see see how it sticks
in there, right, It's the reason that Tesla catching all
these one one hand passes. These gloves are lot sticky
than the ones we used to wear.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Are they gonna ask you about that?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
They're more tactful and they're more sticky like, So that's
why you see all these guys is going up. Yeah,
it's it's a difference. My one hands were pure.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Remember before the days of gloves, and then stick them
all over their bodies.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know what, football players, I always find a way
to get an edge. And those Raiders Coners used to
come out there with like that stuff like sap like
sap on them. They're like sap on them. Like So
I'm never mad when Brady takes the larry out the ball.
I never made when you try to find an edge,
I'm just not.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Not.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
In football, it's always who trying to find the edge,
And that's what that would make offenses so good, Like
who gonna come up with the new the new next,
and that new next might go against the go against
the grain. People might say it ain't it ain't legals.
The test push, I was just gonna say, very much controversial.
I don't know. I think the days of the test
pushes numbered, I really do, because it's more of a
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rugby scrum play than a NFL player.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Not sure, it's just a bunch of but if you
have the advantage of the line script like the Eagles
do and a quarterback like that, you don't run it all.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I just think it's too hard to officiate. And I
think this wiy is going.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
They can't. That's why they get away with so much.
And that's what can you see.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I can't even see what the ball is, right, So
it's going to play with I think, because it's so
hard to officiate. I don't know how long you got it,
got legs.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Let us know what you think. Whether it's about game,
we're gonna preview, coming up, push, push, whatever's on your mind. Washington,
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us today.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
She's still always happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh she's here. Yeah, Oh give it up, Rand that
it's a monday. I know, Okay, she's here.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I am excited to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay, God works out.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I'm talking football with you guys. Yeah, this is the
best crew.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And of course you want to talk football at a
tailgate if you want a tailgate with my guy Fred Smooth,
let us know. And I going to be on game days. Yeah,
you actually come by and visible.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You've done this for years, and I come bearing gifts
but lights all right, and not just regular but lights
the Washington Commander's cans I give out. Oh I yes, sir,
So when I come to your tailgate, we will be
turning up. I brought to you by butt Like.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That sounds good. Also, check us out on a radio,
Big one hundred on game days, Big Big one man
recap Packers. So this game twenty seven to eighteen really
wasn't that close. From the outset. Green Bay just they
were the more dominant team. Let's start on the offense.
(03:37):
It's not easy for any defense to contain Jayden Daniels.
But I think one thing we've learned about Green Bay
and we saw against the Lions too, is that this
Packer's defense can go get them.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Is No one thing that can notify a speed quarterback
is a speed rusher. The best speed rushing in the
NFL is Michael Parsons. The best power rusher is not
Michael Parson, it's Miles Garrett. Right, So if you're going
to chase down the speed guy, you're gonna need your
best pass rush to be a speed guy, and that's
what they have. They also have a connected back end
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when it comes to the wide receivers in the line,
I mean the cornerbacks in the linebackers, so they have
a complete defense. And if I could take anything from
this game and say, you know what, I can look
up to that and that's gonna be the fact that
no matter how we played, the game was never out
of reach. Right, the game was never out of reach.
If you told me that the score was gonna be
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twenty seven eighteen from what I seen early in the game,
I would have been like, Okay, that's not bad. The
way to hang in there. And we had a lot
of injuries that we had to endure. We had to
end a short week where you probably practiced forty eight hours,
you had to travel the other twenty four hours. So
I'm not giving excuses, but I can tell you this, Jinx,
no matter how good we was gonna be this year,
(04:49):
I knew we weren't going undefeated, right, So let's start there,
like nobody's done that but the Miami Dolphins, And they
pop champagne every year when the last team loses a game,
and they didn't even they play with a twelve game
see yes, So at the end of the day, I
knew we wasn't going undefeated. We took our first loss,
and I had fans calling into the show kind of directionless, Yeah,
(05:10):
like where do we go from now? I was like,
this was not I just seen I Didne took worse
whippings than this, all right, and you learn from these,
Like a coach can coach more from a lost than
he can from a win. He can build you up
and til you down more from a lost than he
can from a win. He can do. This is a
reality check from a loss, not a win. So I'm
(05:33):
fine with that. The only thing that I really was
side we're about is we took some really injuries in
this game.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, let's get into that for a second, because I
mean he got dietrichone for the season. Austin eckers outa
them to her. I mean, no Brown banged up. I'm
Bates banged up, but Austin act in particular.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, And you could tell when Bates left their game
because this was a John Bates day, This was a
Baits Motel game, Like he was probably gonna play eighty
percent of the snaps this game. And when you lose
the best blocking tight end in football, your run game
ain't gonna be there, right, all right? So and Dietrich
Wise has been doing a little bit of everything since
we had him here. So to see that injury, it
just it hurts, especially when him he only didn played
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two games in the burglary and goal in Eckla. You know,
Achilles man, let me tell you. So when it comes
to injuries, Jinks and I tell people this all the time.
Most athletes can be doctors because we know every injury.
You know your body, we know the rehab, we know
the muscle name, we know everything about it.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
When you have injuries like this, yeah, and we say
even when Dietrich went out, I mean, the whole team
is coming out. I mean it was. It was a
tough thing to watch. But when you take those along
with the tough loss, how do you say, all right,
it's still the National Football League. It's next man up.
How do you put that behind you mentally, because that'll
wear on you.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Another man's misery is another man's come up. I watched
Antonio Pierce have a great career because somebody got hurt
and he stepped in and never gave a job back.
Seen this many times, when one guy goes down, somebody
else will step in and compete like they're gonna compete
as the highest level, Like, I'm not worried about guys competing.
(07:10):
I'm not worried about this team galvanizing. I'm not worried
about this team being led by the right person. They're
going to be fine. The thing is, can you bring
somebody in this time of year that's gonna give you
what Ditrich Wives was gonna give you? Yeah, can you
bring somebody in this time of year they're gonna give
you what Austin Necker is gonna give you. Do you
have the person on this roster? Do you bring Donovan
(07:31):
Edward's up in the running back room from Michigan and say, hey,
it's time for you to play some football defensive end,
uh Baptiste, It's just your time now. So it's it's
one of the things where that's why you build your
roster from the fifty third person, also through the practice squad,
like you better have some guys that can step in
and play.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Keep looking at you, these gloves on watching a mind. Now,
when I'd like to pretend that I'm in an imaginary box.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I do this, You know what. I was gonna try
to the job as a mind, but I realized I
talk too much for that Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You could never do.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I could never be a mind. Like it's a certain
job that people that talk too much could never do.
I could never be a mind. It's just too quiet.
Now I could do it because I'm very expressive. Yes,
but no, like when somebody say something to me, I'm
gonna say something back.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
How long do you think you could go without saying anything?
Just being quiet?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Sleep? That's it. When I'm sleep, And from what I hear,
I talk in my sleep.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I believe this.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, snitch on myself all the time in my sleep,
So I'm fine with that. I enjoy communication. I think
it's the easiest thing in the world to do. Two
people communicate with them, and in twenty twenty five, we
get paid to communicate with people. That's awesome. Like I
tell people all the time, I have legitly not had
(08:48):
a real job my whole entire grown personal life.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Man, the worst job I ever had, one of the
worst ones. I know. I was a good job, but
right before I got my first TV job. Yeah, I
work for this place in Austin called Construction Data Corporation.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And what was you? Collecting data? God?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
All I did all day because I was waiting for
my first TV job, and I was sitting a cubicle
all day and they would just hand me papers and
I would call different construction companies around the state to
get their bids on different projects. And that was it.
And so I like to get my stuff done. So
I finished done another stack. Yeah, that's all it was.
I go to the bathroom for twenty minutes and just
(09:23):
hang out, like I have to get out of here.
I have to get out of here. Are you worried
about Arch? Yes, it's all in his head.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
It has nothing to do with skill.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Nope, it's it's all on his head.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Can he get out of his head to say this is.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Look, he started two games last year. Was unreal. So
it's not like this is the first time he's played
college football. It's he's his mechanics are totally broke.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
First of all, he can't throw ten yards. I have
never seen somebody withdraw inside of themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's emotionally and it's mental.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's all mental.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, And I don't know, man, I don't know. Y'all
are not the pride of this.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You're not wrong. You're not wrong. So we were one time,
So now's the time when you have injuries. Hell, maybe
Archier replaced. I don't know what's gonna happen. When you
get into the season, it is next man up. So
if you're talking about running back, it's Bill's time. Chris
rod Riggs too. So this this a guy who didn't
(10:25):
get a lot of run last week, but I would
expect moving forward like he's.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Gonna go right, He's gonna get Yoka the carries, Chris
rod Reegs, is your time to shine? Like I thought,
last week was a Chris rod Regaz game. To beat
past rushing, you need to beat them running right at
them with power. Yeah, Like that's how you wear them down.
That's what you do. That's what you tried to see
Dallis try to do to the Giants. By the way,
there was a that game was crazy wild. It was
(10:50):
a wild game. So that's what you do to speed rushes,
You run at them. So, hey, next man up. And
this team really means it, right, this team really means it.
Like everybody's on this roster. You don't earn no roster
spot on this roster unless you can help this team.
And now the question gonna be asked a d N
and they running back. Do we got somebody that gonna
step up and become the man. I think Bill has
(11:12):
been trying to insert hisself in there even when it
was loaded. Insert hisself in there and say I'm the man.
I can make it happy. Let me tote the load.
I didn't even play football last year. Let me tote
the load. The tread on. These tires are good. We
can go cross country with the tread on thease tige.
Give me a chance to show you that I can play.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Tell me what I missed, if anything. I'm sure I
missed a few things during the Packers game because a
lot of times Jade would drop back and it truly
didn't look like anybody was open. They blanket at our receivers.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
They were not backpealing. They were saying, by the time
I rushed get there, you're gonna have to let the
ball go in one point three seconds. They're not giving
you two point three seconds to throw this ball. So
therefore they're not worried about throwing pushing the ball down
the field. They worried about See, it's a different when
we're playing defense back and we're playing downhill and when
we backpedaling. Yeah, when we backpelling. We're trying to go
(12:05):
at the deep routes. When we're going down here. We
don't believe in your deep routes. When we don't backpel it,
we don't move. We don't believe you're gonna have the time.
So therefore I get to play the receiver so tight
and let the ball come to me. As a defensive back,
I don't have to worry about one Mississippi, two Mississippi
playing these deep routes. I just don't have to do that.
(12:26):
And when you got von Nettes, Luca van Nets, Rashan, Gary,
Michael Parsons, you got some dudes walk ahead line. But
you got dudes, dudes all right, they playing well. I
cannot get mad. This is the only thing I can say.
When I play a team and I know it's a
chance for me to play you again later in the year,
I would rather lose the first game to you because
(12:48):
that gives me the age to win the second time.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
And you get those offseason bragging rights too.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah. No, no, I'm just saying. It's just that when you're
a playoff team, yeah, and you playing a playoff team
in the regular season, you're going to get to see
them again, right, at one point in time. It's hard
to beat the team twice.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, in the year.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That's why the Vision Games usually go one to one,
because it's just hard to beat the team, no matter
how better arre you with the team, it's hard to
beat the team twice. So I would rather lose to
Green Bay now, yeah, and beat Green Bay later. So
I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Isn't it funny too, how narratives early in the NFL
switched so quickly. I mean like that. What I mean
by that is, look at last week JJ McCarthy, Right, yeah,
oh this guy God's quarterback, God second coming at times.
Last night the Falcon sackeding six times. He looked like
a rookie. That's just one one week right there where
(13:47):
things can flip like that. So, just like the Lions
against the Packers. Have the Lions lost it? They missed
Ben Johnson, it's over for the Detroit offense. They drop
more than fifty fifty on the Bear. The Bear, So
there'll be a lot of reactions that aren't necessarily going
to hold the truth throughout the season.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
At this time of year, it's paralysis by over analysis. Yeah,
all right, it's overreaction at its highest, all right, the
two and OH teams we going to the super Bowl.
The O and two teams were thinking about next year.
No they're not. They got a whole year to play,
all right. And I don't care what happens in August
(14:24):
and September. The teams like now it's a O and
two team. What if I told you most and two
teams don't go to the playoffs? But what if I
told you the kidsas City the chief was one of
those old to a team. Do you believe they're going
to the playoffs? Yes, thank you? All right, None of
that means anything all us Monday morning quarterbacks. Right now,
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we're just reacting right to what we saw.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
We're reacting to jj not being good. We're reacting to
Jada not having a good game against Green Bay, right,
But we're not overreacting. I'm just reacting telling you what
I saw and what I saw. A team came out
after us. I'm not mad at that it's gonna happen
because were gonna get aft the other people. It's gonna
happen any given Sunday. Somebody can hell your number, right,
(15:12):
any given Sunday, any team can win in this league.
So I'm not gonna overreact. You might overreact, I'm not
gonna do it, James.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I don't know. Many think it's over never come up
with people. Look they you know, they just check out
so quickly. I'm like, man, how long you were watching
the NFL? This is the league? Man? Was one way
it works?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
We was one in one last year with right, what's
the problem.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Didn't the Saints start off undefeated last year look unbelievable
and end up being one of the worst teams.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
In football because the schedule? Right, thank you? So I'm
not gonna do this overreacting. So I told y'all last year.
Let grandmama cook. I was teaching patience. I'm gonna reiterate
that granddaddy in the kitchen now. Let granddaddy or granddaddy's
in there now. Yeah, you know granddaddy where he He
probably went out there and killed right, dear me whatever?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, Dennison, Denison, let's.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Prep be the Raiders now. As of this taping, Raiders
are getting ready to take on the Chargers tonight Monday
night football in Sin City. But we get the Raiders
this week, So as you tighten your gloves.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Actually, loosening. Oh, you're loosening them up all right, listening
to my glove because I'm from the early sixteen hundreds,
and I challenged you, Michael Jenkins, to a.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Due hour a dual. We're gonna have a dual, ad you.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Know, Usually they throw it the gloves to your feet,
or they come and slap you, then they drop it
to your feet. I didn't want to leave your red
thank you. I appreciate that hand, so I threw it
to your feet.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
It first, like, let's give let's give the audience some
contacts on the dual. Jenks, Where were you this weekend?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I was at the Renaissance Festival in Maryland and you, yes, year,
but if you're one of those people that bought up
all those tickets and decided to resell them for like
triple the value, confess we had an awesome time. It
was a great time. That'sh second year and row we're.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Starting to go every year.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
It's a great time. Yeah, So that's why we're gonna
have a duel. Yes, yes, and I have.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I wrote some introductions I did preparing you for the duel. Right,
give it to us, all right now, I'm nervous Okay,
he's the mouth of the South. Seventy percent of the
world is covered water. The rest is covered by him,
and he's a Mississippi State bulldog. Let's introduce Frederick Smooth
(17:41):
to the duel. That was good and the voice of
the Washington Commander's pregame Show Texas Longhorn and Ren Fair
Extraordinaire Michael Jenkins.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
All right, that's good. You want to do the dual
now on top of little Raiders, Let's do it. Okay,
So here we go, Raiders Commanders, what dual do you
want to see?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
What duel?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Do you want to see? Two guys going at it?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Two guys going at it. Brock Bowers Okay, could be
the best tight end in football. Yep. I want to
see him challenge one Will Harris. I want Will to
challenge him to a due okay, because they're gonna go
back and forth. That's gonna be a brawl right there.
(18:33):
And people don't give Gino his his props. Gino can
throw the damn all right. Geno can throw the damn ball,
all right. So I'm gonna start this off. I did
brock Bowers versus Real Harris. Okay, I'm going Geno versus
Can I do? Should I do the defensive front?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You can?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Should I do the defensive backfield? Mmmm?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
See, well, I want to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I would go the defensive front versus Geno, and my
third one would probably be Max Crosby versus Laramie Tongs.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh, I was gonna say that. And if he lines
up against Josh Connerley, then Josh again is gonna have
to learn.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Quick listen, that's what you gotta do, all right, Like
this is the NFL. Every week is gonna be a
challenge until you stand up and say the challenge is
no more. I'm not giving up anything like this is
the learning curve of a rookie. I was a rookie before.
You don't think my eyes were wide open my first
game when I get on the field with Junior say
I and Doug Flutie, Yes, it's wide open. Only to
(19:39):
come back the next week and had to play the
Cowboys with Joey Galloway like the next week like it
just wouldn't stop. The next week I had the Cardinals
with David Boston, Like, you're not getting a break in
the NFL. This ain't college. You know how college we
play all corn State during this time and year. You're
not sweating.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
You're like, I got this sweek.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
No, no, you actually like, let me pass my stats, right,
let me pay well. You ain't got no stat paying
game in the NFL. Ain't no gimmes in the NFL.
So I think Connley will rise to the occasion because
every time he goes against these great edge rushes, he's
taking something from these games.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean, Parsons across me back to back is no joke.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And Parsons Crosby and don't forget about Abduah Corda Brian
Burns temper do that's true. You're right like it don't stop.
It ain't gonna stop. And that's why the best offensive
lines in football usually a part of the best teams
in football. But the challenge is there, the due al
is there, Crosby versus Laramie Thoms.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
So when you look at Gino, you're taking him against
what the defensive line.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
The whole front. I want the front to get pressure
on there because if it's any weak part to this
this Las Vegas Raider team, to me, it's the offensive line.
They got a legit running back they got legit tight end. Okay,
offensive line, they got Jacobe Miles, a couple of guys
on the edge. Nothing to be excited about. But they
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are a team, all right. They got a great coach.
Let's do it there. When you coached Will Pete Carroll
is always this defense is gonna fly around. No matter
what's his name on back of the jersey, it don't matter.
They're gonna play with passion and they gonna give it
everything that they got. All right, So you need to
be ready to play the Raiders. They will not be
an easy win at all.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I'll tell you one duel. I want to see who
you got Terry McClain against the Raiders secondary. Yes, it's
time for Terry to get loose one of those patented
deep throws. And also, if you could, last season, the
Raiders had one of the worst secondaries in the NFL.
I think after one game they're twenty seventh in the league.
So it's time for Terry to get loose against that.
Maybe against Jeremy Chin, I don't know. Yeah, you know
(21:44):
both teammate, Yeah, right, but I want to see Terry.
I think this is his time to get loose, and
that's a.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Dual I want to see and guess what. I second
that due al?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I do?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I second that due all, and I think that's a
good du al. And I think it's Terry tired, you know,
like every like It's just something about the third game
of a year, third game of the year. Last year
was Cincinnati, right, yep, and that's when he really got off.
So now the third game of this year is the
opening Raiders. No better team for Terry to get crunk
and get going.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Let me ask you about Bowers for a second. Yeah,
how difficult is it when you have a tight end
who plays like that? Who is that child? Who's that fastest,
great route runner. It's a big bodied receiver.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Listen. He is the closest thing to a perfect tight
end I have saw come out of college ever since
Tony Gonzales. He's so perfect as a football playing tight end.
The only flaw he has is he's losing his hair.
But the only flaw this guy has is dead because
his run out to the kitch unbelievable, his catch range unbelievable.
(22:47):
He runs away from linebackers, he boxes out of defensive backs. Yeah,
he's to me right now. Power for power the best
tight end that we will see this year.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It's twenty twenty five. He gets you up next season,
full head of hair.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
He could, he could, he could his waste and they
don't have it all.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Listen, he can, he can do that unpit transfer. Oh
my god, you know they do that pit hair transfer
to the transfer.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
No, they do what hair grows faster than Yeah, but
that's a different type of hair. That's all like squirrely
and wire.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Listen, you ain't if you already missing this, what you're
gonna take back hair? You gotta take hair, all right,
I got a triple check.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Just keep going.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I'll do something, and it's gonna do the research. He's
back in. She's back in. Gino Smith. You're talking about Geno.
He has a great relationship with Pete Carroll. I love
their relationship because Geno reclaimated his career, Yeah with Pete Carroll.
And even after last week's game where Pete said, this
is just a regular Geno game, like he's always good,
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he's always tossing.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, And guess what if I come back as a
coach and I want to win now and my guy
is available, I'm getting him. You grab, I'm getting I'm
getting him and I'm running with him, like Gino don't
get the props he deserved because of his slow start. Yeah,
and I don't know why the NFL is like that.
Like when you draft it high and you don't start
off as fast as you should, they write you off.
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And Geno said he wasn't writing back. I actually respect that.
But we got to get out the Geno. He's a
pocket pass We got to get out the Genie.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, if you give him time, he will absolutely carve
you up.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But you got to get out to him. You know
where he's gonna be at. Like the thing about a
running quarterback sometime makes it hard for his office line
because they don't know where he's at right. But as
a pass rusher, when I know where you're gonna be
at in the pocket, that allows me to hunt you.
I can hunt you for four courts because I know
exactly where you're gonna be. But the one thing Geno
does to offset that he lets the ball out of
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his hand. He's not holding that ball. Yeah, he lets
the ball out of his hand. The question is, can
I defensive backs take the Raiders wide receive was out
the game? Can they do that? Can we stop? Asking Genty,
he hadn't had that game yet. He said, yeah, all right,
so we have to make them one dimensional. Do you
want to stop the pass? Which that's what I would
want to stop, And I'm gonna force you to beat
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me with a rickey running back. I want to make
you one dimensional. I want to take away the pass,
force you to beat me rushing the ball. Can you
be patient enough to rush the ball enough to beat me?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
What are your thoughts on gent? I mean, we don't
have a big sample size, so I hate to draw
these big conclusions. But we didn't see much the pre season,
didn't see much in game one.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
When I watched Genty, all right, what is your defining
trait as an athlete? Let's say somebody like Santana or speed? Right,
this is defining trait? Saquon vision, speed, pretty much everything? Yeah, everything,
pretty much everything. When you say Askton Genty, what first
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can come to mind?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Strength?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, but it ain't strengthen a Derrick henrybody. It's strength
in a good built running back, but it ain't speed,
it ain't agility. It might be vision.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It might be vision.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It might be vision, but until he can put it
all together, in the NFL with worked at Boise State, right,
we are not working in the NFL like you're going
to have to have a defining trade. In that defining trade,
you have to be at the top of it, right
for it to be special. Like when I say b
J and Robinson, you know what the special is, right,
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you know what the sauce is, Tyreek Hill, you know
what the sauce is. Jamar Chase, what doesn't he do well?
So I have to ask myself about GENTI whether is
his defining traits and all those defining traits good enough
for him to be on Saquon and Derrick Henry's level.
I don't know. It's like I'm not afraid to say
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I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And if you're not Derrick Henry or Saquan that's okay.
But that's these guys are as good as it gets.
So he might he might be a very good running
back but never attaining that level.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
But he what's is he an outlier? Like they are outliers,
They're they're outliers? Yeah? Is he just another good running
back in the league. We've seen this before.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's hard to be an outlier in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
All right, thank you, because everybody so good, right, Kenny
Walker for Seattle, very good, very good running back. They
wouldn't put him on that level. So what if I
told you he was Kenny Walker a Kiwin Williams from
The Ring, Right, what if I told you he was them?
It's a strong possibility you can you can win with them. Yeah,
(27:40):
so you don't have to be And that's okay and
they But but if I'm the Raiders where they drafted
him in.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That's what I was. It's because he's a top ten pick.
If you're gonna draft a running back that high in
today's NFL, it means it means they hope you are
an outlier. They're not looking for you to just be
You have.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
To be generational. Yeah, I don't know. I don't Jinx,
I don't know if he's generational. All I'm saying is
he gives off a lot. Emmitt Smith, Okay, all right,
well this is what I say about Emmitt. His thing
was Emmitt never got hurt, and when he was hurt,
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he still played. He was tough, tough as a two dollars,
but he wasn't Barry Sanders.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And he wouldn't run away from you.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
No, he wasn't Bo Jackson like he wasn't these freak outs.
But what he did had was a top quarterback, top wise,
incredible line, the best officive line ever assembled. And he
had longevity. Yeah, so what if I told you he
more Emmitt smithish without the best offensive line in football.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I mean, Emmon had a way of making people miss.
He was good at glancing off guys.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
He was hard to tackle, Yes, uh, and that's what
I find that what I see from genty hard to
tackle in college, but it's that pro hard to tackle.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
We will see. We're gonna find out. We're gonna find out. Guys.
Let us know what you think. Doesn't matter what you
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Thank you. Do we have any bore supposed this week?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
No boy, no no voice fails this week. It was
kind of a tough game.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, that's a tough one. Y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Can't let a tough game stop y'all from communicating like that.
When you communicate the most, it's doing down times and
bad times because you're looking for answer.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Tell us how you're feeling.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Don't, don't, don't, don't be a front runner. Don't when
things are going good, don't Washington is Washington. That then
we lose a game, you don't even want to call us.
We ain't actually need to pick up the phone. You
be leaving a message, right, even if it's you know,
Fred and Jinks. Man, it was a hard week for me, man,
watching us lose to Green Bay really broke my had
those cheese packers hurting my feelings. It happens, that's true,
(30:04):
Like this is when I supposed to be here with you.
This is when you're supposed to be This is what
fan bases do. They come together doing the hard times
and we celebrate the good time. Yeah, yeah, man, Do
not shy away from the phone because we took an
l and don't act like we got beat by fifty
or something. All right, we got beat by legit super.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Bowl packers are as Super Bowl contender legit as you get.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And they lost some people too. They lost Jalen Reid
like they lost. They lost some people too, so you
never know what the team is gonna look like sixteen
weeks from now. Yeah, you don't know who gonna be healthy.
We lost two hour starters this week. All right, we're
gonna have two new starters coming up against the Raiders.
That's the reality of it. Don't run from their pain,
run to that pain.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Well, leave us your voicemails, please, you can leave your
thoughts going into the Raiders game, and then be sure
to call us after the Raiders game because we'll definitely
want to react to those. So don't forget to Just
don't forget to leave us the voicemail the game. I'm
sure you have thoughts.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, of course they got thoughts, because when you lose,
it kind of messages your week up.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Kicks wall to get out of that funk.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
The one thing I real I realized last year as
the team start to win. I would go in the
gas station and everybody just chipper. I would go. I
would go in the grocery store and people just hey,
you know you yeah, just going to a restaurant, and
everybody had hard hip hip arade.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Nobody was saying Hardy hard.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
The community was different. When I take my eating scrolls
and I walk people like fred By, Golly, we're going
to do it.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Frederick's team A or something else.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Listen. It has changed my work week, So I understand
the pleasure that it brings. But that's what being a
fan is. It's like being in a relationship. Good days,
bad days, but you still love that team all right,
so I slick with them. I need more messages when
we lose than when we win. Okay, and I'm talking
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to you, traveling Jay.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'm talking to you direct message for a traveling Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I'm just saying I need are you traveling, Jay? You
out of all people, of all the people like and
I like to hear. I like to hear what you
really have to say about how you felt about the game.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah? Did you feel like you got way too quick?
Did you feel like home feel advantage did something to it?
What about the shark week? Uh? They just played faster.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I think, just right now, the Packers are better football team.
And that just today, and that's today, and that can change.
But sometimes you just gotta say, like this team can
play with anybody, right.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
That can play with anybody. I said a Super Bowl contending.
I didn't say a playoff, right, It's two different things,
all right. The first week the season, Giants, I don't
think nobody say the Giants super Bowl contend.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
We went to Green Bay and played the Super Bowl
contend to hit their home traveling on a short week.
We lost about what eleven disrespectable to me.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, they shut down the lines and often they did
nothing nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
At least we got points. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Okay, oh Anna, oh hi hi, Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
See, I've been I think as if I'm not going
to be on here, and I feel like I've just
been chit chatting away, just the same as usual. So okay,
I know how much Fred hates lists.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I do, so I'm a little list.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
This is from a couple of weeks ago, and let's
take Thursday football out of the equation. But Daniel Lovsky
shared his top five quarterbacks approaching elite status, and I
wanted to get your thoughts. I only put passing stats
on the rundown, I realized. But number one is Jaden Daniels.
Number two is Jordan Love, three Justin Herbert for Kyler Murray,
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five C J. Stroud. Do we agree? Disagree? Thoughts.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I feel like Justin Herbert has been elite for a while.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
They had crowned him too early? Okay, they crowned him
too early. The winning didn't match the talent at first. Yeah,
but once he got Hobba, now he becomes a legit
threat because now he has a chance to win through
better coaching and better coaching over also his defense, because
the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
There's a reason why Chargering is a third right.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, James Dangas, Yes, Jordan Love. I think
they ain't want to put him there yet because he
will turn the ball over some time and he get
in these these funks. But Jordan Love most definitely headed
for starting. Ye. And you know what, I could say
this about Green Bay, and I know people gonna be like,
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how are you gonna say that, Fred, because I did
Green Bay. If you look at them, they're finna go
on forty consecutive years a Pro Bowl quarterback.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
It's remarkable.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
They're fin to go forty plus years a Pro Bowl quarterback.
They got two Super Bowls. Most overrated franchise all the time,
forty consecutive years of Pro Bowl Listen to me, Jinxon,
Nobody does that better than Green Bay. One quarterback after
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the other all fall short.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
How much of that do you put on Aaron Rodgers?
Should he have at least one more ring?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So shit Brett too. Yeah, and they won these rings
so early in their career that they kind of lived
off of those rings. Yeah, but if I told you
all right, who else had something comparable? Forty nine ers
went from Joe Montowna to Steve Young. Oh yeah, multiple
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super Bowls, multiple each one of them. Yep. Green Bay.
For as good as they being, they fall short a lot.
They fall short a lot with Pro Bowl quarterback. And
people need to take what I'm saying because it's real,
Like forty consecutive years. Think about that, that's true and
falling short. So Kyler Murray he's the enigma.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I can't figure Kyler out. And I feel like he's
always gonna have those games where he looks elite, but
he's never gonna be consistent enough. Maybe it's the market.
I don't know, but I don't feel like he's elite.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
This is what I think gonna hold Kyler back from
being what they call elite NFL quarterback. Not his size,
not his speed, not his throwing ability. I think it's
his leadership ability. Yeah, I think he's lacking in that one.
The quarterback can afford to be quiet, Yeah, you're talking
to the whole team. You can't afford to be secluded
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the post of the team. I think he's lacking in
the leadership department. And I think this what's gonna keep
him out of there? And C. J. Scrodd, I think
he just got it, you think so. I think he does.
He got the it and he just grounded verbal. He
understands people, very good with people. So yeah, I think
I think this list is right. But if I had
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to put somebody at five, it would be Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, that's kind of how I feel too. Yeah, And
there's something And I don't know if it's being with
the Cardinals, because I feel if the Cardinals are always
kind of out of the conversation. Yeah, I don't know
if it's. And you're right about Colin if you just
listen to him, like he's just a very kind of reserved,
secluded Yeah, and it's it's it's so strange to see
a quarterback have that sort of demeanor.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's rare. And that's why I say it ain't his talent. Yeah,
this is about leadership. I just don't think he'll be
to this. What's gonna make it consistent? Like when you're
a leader, your team's always play. Like we know Pat
Mahone's team gonna win ten plus games year. He's a leader,
all right, Well, Kyler depends more on his talent, Like
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I'm going to show y'all how good I am through.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
If you need a leader, I'm not that dude. Now,
I'll perform, but that that intangible part of it that
you can't measure yes for someone else.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
But then you got to have Kalais Campbell on your team, right,
You got to have something.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Because he was the story yesterday. It wasn't Kyler.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
So you got to have somebody that's vocal enough to
say I got it. Yeah. And I don't know if
substantial with a quarterback because the quarterback going out to
play all of us.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
So when I think about Kyler, the only thing that
I think stops him from going to the next level
is the fact he's not voice for and he's not
a leader.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I think he's one of those guys who look back
on his credit. Oh he was really good, Yeah, but
it wasn't great, But wasn't right, wasn't transitident?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
What wasn't what we thought he was going to be
coming out of college? All right? So most definitely he
might get a fresh start somewhere with the right head
coach that does the leading for him. Like he has
to really be with a Sean McVay right, Like he
has to be with somebody with such a presence that
it don't matter how the quarterback leads. Like he has
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to be with a guru. Yeah, a true like coaching guru.
What about Caleb Wiggs?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
You know what, I'm just I am someone who tries
to be I'm not a hot tape person. Yeah, I'm
kind of coming around to the idea, and I believe
in being patient. I just don't think Caleb has a juice.
His mechanics aren't great. He misses some easy throws, He'll
make some really bad mistakes. I guess you can say, though,
he's kind of a rookie again because it's a new system,
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offensive system, so I can I'll certainly hear that. But
I just it feels like leadership. Why something is missing
there in a big way.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I can say personality wise, Oh, it's a missing that's
what I mean emotional. He has no emotional control, meaning
quarterbacks can't spans out right, and he does it all
the time. He misses the pass, he goes to the bench,
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he'll just like.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Lose his mind for a second on the field, and
then you see it on the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yes, like it's something not there, right, but it's something there.
Like the talent, you like, he can make every throw.
It ain't nothing he can't do. So I know they
got to be like really frustrating to being just because
I got a guy that can do it. But when
the play break down, what used to what used to
be his strength in college is quickly in the league
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turning into the worst part of his game. So sporadically,
now Michael Penix has this calmness about him. And as
you see, I'm going through Jaden all his class man.
I think Michael Penix got some leadership ability that's soft
touch with that left hand. He got it all right.
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So I feel good about Michael Penix.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
What about J. J.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
McCarthy, who knows?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
You know. Also, I'm to say with Pennix, he's essentially
a rookie, Like he's only played like six NFL games,
but he got controlled. He's already in control. Like his
demeanor is is totally different, totally different, totally different. I
think j is gonna be all right. But I knew
after game one. I'm like, these people are gonna crown
this guy. I was like, just wait, is he still
a rookie?
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Like you still gotta let him develop? But I think
if he goes on, he got all the things that
it takes. And I could tell the team already loves him,
so he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
He's gonna be fine. Who else we got bow Knicks
did not have a good day.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Now, he hasn't looked in the first couple of games.
He struggled the Titans in Week one.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
The Titans is a better team than you think.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I agree, you're not gonna wint a bunch of games,
but there they're gonna be a difficult out.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, the Titans are a better team than you think.
And uh, I think I think Bubba bo Knicks to
get this thing and going, Yeah, I really enjoy watching
him play the quick release. He got better athlete than
you think. Like I told you, I said this for
the last year's draft, best quarterback draft for all time, yeah,
we look back on it, even Spencer Ratler part of
(42:06):
their drift. Right when we look back on it, that
will be the best quarterback draft all time. I don't
know if I left out of an MD. I kind
of got them all. Yeah, it's a ton of talent,
all different talents too.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
No, most definitely will geek out. Let's see what I
got for y'all this week. Let's see what I got.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I'm ready for this. Hope it's nothing.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah, ready to move on from that one baldness. Oh
that's what you think it is.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
I've learned enough, all right, checked this out.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Okay. In Alberta, which is in Canada, Okay, it is
illegal to keep pet rats, all right. An insight of
a rat must be reported to the government immediately, all right. Alberta.
Alberta is one of the few places in the world
that's completely red free. Really, you can't have one as
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a pit and they they are not there. They terminated
them all You know what.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
I respect that.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I love that. I hate rats.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
You don't think. You don't think taking that the rats
out of the ecosystem does something.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I don't think. I don't know. Likes like native to Like, yes,
you just stopped.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
I'm thinking, where are rats?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
It's like warm climates they but they do well and
cold climates also rats rats like and people keep them
as pits come come on.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Like, Oh okay, so they long time ago. Just due
to their adaptability and association with humans, rats have spread worldwide.
But it's like if you don't have rats living there,
they weren't ever essential to the ecosystem.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Interesting, So so rats? Uh urban animals? Right? Yeah, the
urban animal, just like pigeons. Yes, so without the urban environment,
where do they naturally come from?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Nowhere they had to be.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
We didn't always have cities. Yeah, where was a pigeon
before we had a building for him to sit on?
Because they're not in the woods with the eagles and them,
you're not gonna you only see them in the city. Yeah,
what's the natural habitat of a pigeon?
Speaker 1 (44:36):
It's the city, jinx. It wasn't cities all the time.
I know, I don't know. This is what geek out
of school.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Hey, that's why I like to have these things and
talk about these days.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That's a good question. Hey, And speaking of rats, Oh
all right, California squirrels. I'm there series. Okay, sorry you're
laughing at me.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Well, it was the transition speaking of rats California squirrels
like you got me without one.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Okay, California squirrels, I'm coming niggas that they're starting to
eat other squirrels. Yeah, they're hunting each other for the
first time, so they don't do they not have a
food source. The teeth are getting longer, and they're no
longer eating nuts and berries. They're eating other squirrels.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
So they're just showing you that animals they go through phases.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah, they go through phases. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Imagine walking on a trail and just seeing the squirrel
eating another squirrel.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Oh my god, would you.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Be like that're just They're just a hannibal elector of
squirrels right there, Like yeah, gross, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
That minds man. When I was in graduate graduate school,
I worked on a daycare. I told this before, and
I saw I was in charge of thirty kids. That
was the field trip coordinate. I take these kids on. Man.
They would never allow to say, fifteen kids a day
in a van. Half of them have seat belts, half
I was in charge of all these kids wild. But
I say it's because I got there and I was
the only guy that worked in daycare and everybody called
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me mister Mike, and so they of course every little
classroom had gerbils or hamsters and one would always die
all the time, and I, of course I would ride it, like, Hi,
mister Mike. In room five, we have a guinea pig
that has passed. Could you go ahead and just take it?
Speaker 2 (46:37):
And I'd be like okay.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Going there every other day there was some pet.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
That's why I would never have passed.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I takeing care of it a bunch of kids.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I have bought my kids dogs. That's the only animal.
I don't buy rodents for my kids. Hampstead, you ain't
gonna do nothing with their hampster. The hampster gonna get
loose in that house. And I'm gonna have hamster's in
a while. Right, You're not getting any of that. I'm
just as a parent. Yeah, Like I'm getting the farm.
(47:08):
And my whole thing is I tell my kids I'm
not getting any useless animals, because they're like, yeah, I
want to put a peacocker.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
No peacock useless, right, I don't.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
I don't do useless Yeah, I don't do useless animals,
like I'm just not And I find hamsters rodents, yes,
like I remember when I was young and I went
in my homeboy room invited me to his house. I
go in there. He got a pet hamster, just a
rat like you just so soft, Like why do you
(47:40):
have a pet hamster? Like you can't walk him in
the park? Like no, like, what's the what can you
do with it? By the way, this dude got kicked
out the girl I mean home depot for bringing his
support animal, which happened to be an alligator in a sweater. Wait, yes, okay,
(48:02):
all right, No, I'm dead serious.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
No, no, and it's checking out. No.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
This dude literally got kicked out of home depot for
bringing well they didn't let him in. Okay, they say
you can't come in. You cannot bring this alligator with
the sweater in. He was like, this is my support like.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
The alligators find but the sweater is too much, too much. Yeah,
what smooth? We got loud man after loss, and we're
waiting for independent verification. We didn't get loud and good stories.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
This is what I did. All they lives out in truth.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
I think we maybe a lot, maybe a couple of there.
Thanks for being with us. Let's get a dub against Raiders.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
You see next week.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yes, white and white glove sometimes you got. I was
watching football all weekend. Be blood, Yeah, reliving what used
to be the past, all right, had to feel feel
brady like. There's nothing like grabbing the beverage.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
He's not going anywhere. You see see how it sticks
in there, right, It's the reason that Tesla catching all
these one one hand passes. These gloves are lot sticky
than the ones we used to wear.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Are they gonna ask you about that?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
They're more tactful and they're more sticky like, So that's
why you see all these guys is going up. Yeah,
it's it's a difference. My one hands were pure.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Remember before the days of gloves, and then stick them
all over their bodies.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know what, football players, I always find a way
to get an edge. And those Raiders Coners used to
come out there with like that stuff like sap like
sap on them. They're like sap on them. Like So
I'm never mad when Brady takes the larry out the ball.
I never made when you try to find an edge,
I'm just not.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Not.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
In football, it's always who trying to find the edge,
And that's what that would make offenses so good, Like
who gonna come up with the new the new next,
and that new next might go against the go against
the grain. People might say it ain't it ain't legals.
The test push, I was just gonna say, very much controversial.
I don't know. I think the days of the test
pushes numbered, I really do, because it's more of a
(01:54):
rugby scrum play than a NFL player.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Not sure, it's just a bunch of but if you
have the advantage of the line script like the Eagles
do and a quarterback like that, you don't run it all.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I just think it's too hard to officiate. And I
think this wiy is going.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
They can't. That's why they get away with so much.
And that's what can you see.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I can't even see what the ball is, right, So
it's going to play with I think, because it's so
hard to officiate. I don't know how long you got it,
got legs.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Let us know what you think. Whether it's about game,
we're gonna preview, coming up, push, push, whatever's on your mind. Washington,
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doesn't know if she wants to associate with us, with
us today.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
She's still always happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh she's here. Yeah, Oh give it up, Rand that
it's a monday. I know, Okay, she's here.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I am excited to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay, God works out.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I'm talking football with you guys. Yeah, this is the
best crew.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And of course you want to talk football at a
tailgate if you want a tailgate with my guy Fred Smooth,
let us know. And I going to be on game days. Yeah,
you actually come by and visible.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You've done this for years, and I come bearing gifts
but lights all right, and not just regular but lights
the Washington Commander's cans I give out. Oh I yes, sir,
So when I come to your tailgate, we will be
turning up. I brought to you by butt Like.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That sounds good. Also, check us out on a radio,
Big one hundred on game days, Big Big one man
recap Packers. So this game twenty seven to eighteen really
wasn't that close. From the outset. Green Bay just they
were the more dominant team. Let's start on the offense.
(03:37):
It's not easy for any defense to contain Jayden Daniels.
But I think one thing we've learned about Green Bay
and we saw against the Lions too, is that this
Packer's defense can go get them.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Is No one thing that can notify a speed quarterback
is a speed rusher. The best speed rushing in the
NFL is Michael Parsons. The best power rusher is not
Michael Parson, it's Miles Garrett. Right, So if you're going
to chase down the speed guy, you're gonna need your
best pass rush to be a speed guy, and that's
what they have. They also have a connected back end
(04:07):
when it comes to the wide receivers in the line,
I mean the cornerbacks in the linebackers, so they have
a complete defense. And if I could take anything from
this game and say, you know what, I can look
up to that and that's gonna be the fact that
no matter how we played, the game was never out
of reach. Right, the game was never out of reach.
If you told me that the score was gonna be
(04:28):
twenty seven eighteen from what I seen early in the game,
I would have been like, Okay, that's not bad. The
way to hang in there. And we had a lot
of injuries that we had to endure. We had to
end a short week where you probably practiced forty eight hours,
you had to travel the other twenty four hours. So
I'm not giving excuses, but I can tell you this, Jinx,
no matter how good we was gonna be this year,
(04:49):
I knew we weren't going undefeated, right, So let's start there,
like nobody's done that but the Miami Dolphins, And they
pop champagne every year when the last team loses a game,
and they didn't even they play with a twelve game
see yes, So at the end of the day, I
knew we wasn't going undefeated. We took our first loss,
and I had fans calling into the show kind of directionless, Yeah,
(05:10):
like where do we go from now? I was like,
this was not I just seen I Didne took worse
whippings than this, all right, and you learn from these,
Like a coach can coach more from a lost than
he can from a win. He can build you up
and til you down more from a lost than he
can from a win. He can do. This is a
reality check from a loss, not a win. So I'm
(05:33):
fine with that. The only thing that I really was
side we're about is we took some really injuries in
this game.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, let's get into that for a second, because I
mean he got dietrichone for the season. Austin eckers outa
them to her. I mean, no Brown banged up. I'm
Bates banged up, but Austin act in particular.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, And you could tell when Bates left their game
because this was a John Bates day, This was a
Baits Motel game, Like he was probably gonna play eighty
percent of the snaps this game. And when you lose
the best blocking tight end in football, your run game
ain't gonna be there, right, all right? So and Dietrich
Wise has been doing a little bit of everything since
we had him here. So to see that injury, it
just it hurts, especially when him he only didn played
(06:14):
two games in the burglary and goal in Eckla. You know,
Achilles man, let me tell you. So when it comes
to injuries, Jinks and I tell people this all the time.
Most athletes can be doctors because we know every injury.
You know your body, we know the rehab, we know
the muscle name, we know everything about it.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
When you have injuries like this, yeah, and we say
even when Dietrich went out, I mean, the whole team
is coming out. I mean it was. It was a
tough thing to watch. But when you take those along
with the tough loss, how do you say, all right,
it's still the National Football League. It's next man up.
How do you put that behind you mentally, because that'll
wear on you.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Another man's misery is another man's come up. I watched
Antonio Pierce have a great career because somebody got hurt
and he stepped in and never gave a job back.
Seen this many times, when one guy goes down, somebody
else will step in and compete like they're gonna compete
as the highest level, Like, I'm not worried about guys competing.
(07:10):
I'm not worried about this team galvanizing. I'm not worried
about this team being led by the right person. They're
going to be fine. The thing is, can you bring
somebody in this time of year that's gonna give you
what Ditrich Wives was gonna give you? Yeah, can you
bring somebody in this time of year they're gonna give
you what Austin Necker is gonna give you. Do you
have the person on this roster? Do you bring Donovan
(07:31):
Edward's up in the running back room from Michigan and say, hey,
it's time for you to play some football defensive end,
uh Baptiste, It's just your time now. So it's it's
one of the things where that's why you build your
roster from the fifty third person, also through the practice squad,
like you better have some guys that can step in
and play.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Keep looking at you, these gloves on watching a mind. Now,
when I'd like to pretend that I'm in an imaginary box.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I do this, You know what. I was gonna try
to the job as a mind, but I realized I
talk too much for that Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You could never do.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I could never be a mind. Like it's a certain
job that people that talk too much could never do.
I could never be a mind. It's just too quiet.
Now I could do it because I'm very expressive. Yes,
but no, like when somebody say something to me, I'm
gonna say something back.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
How long do you think you could go without saying anything?
Just being quiet?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Sleep? That's it. When I'm sleep, And from what I hear,
I talk in my sleep.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I believe this.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, snitch on myself all the time in my sleep,
So I'm fine with that. I enjoy communication. I think
it's the easiest thing in the world to do. Two
people communicate with them, and in twenty twenty five, we
get paid to communicate with people. That's awesome. Like I
tell people all the time, I have legitly not had
(08:48):
a real job my whole entire grown personal life.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Man, the worst job I ever had, one of the
worst ones. I know. I was a good job, but
right before I got my first TV job. Yeah, I
work for this place in Austin called Construction Data Corporation.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And what was you? Collecting data? God?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
All I did all day because I was waiting for
my first TV job, and I was sitting a cubicle
all day and they would just hand me papers and
I would call different construction companies around the state to
get their bids on different projects. And that was it.
And so I like to get my stuff done. So
I finished done another stack. Yeah, that's all it was.
I go to the bathroom for twenty minutes and just
(09:23):
hang out, like I have to get out of here.
I have to get out of here. Are you worried
about Arch? Yes, it's all in his head.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
It has nothing to do with skill.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Nope, it's it's all on his head.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Can he get out of his head to say this is.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Look, he started two games last year. Was unreal. So
it's not like this is the first time he's played
college football. It's he's his mechanics are totally broke.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
First of all, he can't throw ten yards. I have
never seen somebody withdraw inside of themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's emotionally and it's mental.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's all mental.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, And I don't know, man, I don't know. Y'all
are not the pride of this.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You're not wrong. You're not wrong. So we were one time,
So now's the time when you have injuries. Hell, maybe
Archier replaced. I don't know what's gonna happen. When you
get into the season, it is next man up. So
if you're talking about running back, it's Bill's time. Chris
rod Riggs too. So this this a guy who didn't
(10:25):
get a lot of run last week, but I would
expect moving forward like he's.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Gonna go right, He's gonna get Yoka the carries, Chris
rod Reegs, is your time to shine? Like I thought,
last week was a Chris rod Regaz game. To beat
past rushing, you need to beat them running right at
them with power. Yeah, Like that's how you wear them down.
That's what you do. That's what you tried to see
Dallis try to do to the Giants. By the way,
there was a that game was crazy wild. It was
(10:50):
a wild game. So that's what you do to speed rushes,
You run at them. So, hey, next man up. And
this team really means it, right, this team really means it.
Like everybody's on this roster. You don't earn no roster
spot on this roster unless you can help this team.
And now the question gonna be asked a d N
and they running back. Do we got somebody that gonna
step up and become the man. I think Bill has
(11:12):
been trying to insert hisself in there even when it
was loaded. Insert hisself in there and say I'm the man.
I can make it happy. Let me tote the load.
I didn't even play football last year. Let me tote
the load. The tread on. These tires are good. We
can go cross country with the tread on thease tige.
Give me a chance to show you that I can play.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Tell me what I missed, if anything. I'm sure I
missed a few things during the Packers game because a
lot of times Jade would drop back and it truly
didn't look like anybody was open. They blanket at our receivers.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
They were not backpealing. They were saying, by the time
I rushed get there, you're gonna have to let the
ball go in one point three seconds. They're not giving
you two point three seconds to throw this ball. So
therefore they're not worried about throwing pushing the ball down
the field. They worried about See, it's a different when
we're playing defense back and we're playing downhill and when
we backpedaling. Yeah, when we backpelling. We're trying to go
(12:05):
at the deep routes. When we're going down here. We
don't believe in your deep routes. When we don't backpel it,
we don't move. We don't believe you're gonna have the time.
So therefore I get to play the receiver so tight
and let the ball come to me. As a defensive back,
I don't have to worry about one Mississippi, two Mississippi
playing these deep routes. I just don't have to do that.
(12:26):
And when you got von Nettes, Luca van Nets, Rashan, Gary,
Michael Parsons, you got some dudes walk ahead line. But
you got dudes, dudes all right, they playing well. I
cannot get mad. This is the only thing I can say.
When I play a team and I know it's a
chance for me to play you again later in the year,
I would rather lose the first game to you because
(12:48):
that gives me the age to win the second time.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
And you get those offseason bragging rights too.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah. No, no, I'm just saying. It's just that when you're
a playoff team, yeah, and you playing a playoff team
in the regular season, you're going to get to see
them again, right, at one point in time. It's hard
to beat the team twice.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, in the year.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That's why the Vision Games usually go one to one,
because it's just hard to beat the team, no matter
how better arre you with the team, it's hard to
beat the team twice. So I would rather lose to
Green Bay now, yeah, and beat Green Bay later. So
I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Isn't it funny too, how narratives early in the NFL
switched so quickly. I mean like that. What I mean
by that is, look at last week JJ McCarthy, Right, yeah,
oh this guy God's quarterback, God second coming at times.
Last night the Falcon sackeding six times. He looked like
a rookie. That's just one one week right there where
(13:47):
things can flip like that. So, just like the Lions
against the Packers. Have the Lions lost it? They missed
Ben Johnson, it's over for the Detroit offense. They drop
more than fifty fifty on the Bear. The Bear, So
there'll be a lot of reactions that aren't necessarily going
to hold the truth throughout the season.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
At this time of year, it's paralysis by over analysis. Yeah,
all right, it's overreaction at its highest, all right, the
two and OH teams we going to the super Bowl.
The O and two teams were thinking about next year.
No they're not. They got a whole year to play,
all right. And I don't care what happens in August
(14:24):
and September. The teams like now it's a O and
two team. What if I told you most and two
teams don't go to the playoffs? But what if I
told you the kidsas City the chief was one of
those old to a team. Do you believe they're going
to the playoffs? Yes, thank you? All right, None of
that means anything all us Monday morning quarterbacks. Right now,
(14:46):
we're just reacting right to what we saw.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
We're reacting to jj not being good. We're reacting to
Jada not having a good game against Green Bay, right,
But we're not overreacting. I'm just reacting telling you what
I saw and what I saw. A team came out
after us. I'm not mad at that it's gonna happen
because were gonna get aft the other people. It's gonna
happen any given Sunday. Somebody can hell your number, right,
(15:12):
any given Sunday, any team can win in this league.
So I'm not gonna overreact. You might overreact, I'm not
gonna do it, James.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I don't know. Many think it's over never come up
with people. Look they you know, they just check out
so quickly. I'm like, man, how long you were watching
the NFL? This is the league? Man? Was one way
it works?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
We was one in one last year with right, what's
the problem.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Didn't the Saints start off undefeated last year look unbelievable
and end up being one of the worst teams.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
In football because the schedule? Right, thank you? So I'm
not gonna do this overreacting. So I told y'all last year.
Let grandmama cook. I was teaching patience. I'm gonna reiterate
that granddaddy in the kitchen now. Let granddaddy or granddaddy's
in there now. Yeah, you know granddaddy where he He
probably went out there and killed right, dear me whatever?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, Dennison, Denison, let's.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Prep be the Raiders now. As of this taping, Raiders
are getting ready to take on the Chargers tonight Monday
night football in Sin City. But we get the Raiders
this week, So as you tighten your gloves.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Actually, loosening. Oh, you're loosening them up all right, listening
to my glove because I'm from the early sixteen hundreds,
and I challenged you, Michael Jenkins, to a.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Due hour a dual. We're gonna have a dual, ad you.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Know, Usually they throw it the gloves to your feet,
or they come and slap you, then they drop it
to your feet. I didn't want to leave your red
thank you. I appreciate that hand, so I threw it
to your feet.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
It first, like, let's give let's give the audience some
contacts on the dual. Jenks, Where were you this weekend?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I was at the Renaissance Festival in Maryland and you, yes, year,
but if you're one of those people that bought up
all those tickets and decided to resell them for like
triple the value, confess we had an awesome time. It
was a great time. That'sh second year and row we're.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Starting to go every year.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
It's a great time. Yeah, So that's why we're gonna
have a duel. Yes, yes, and I have.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I wrote some introductions I did preparing you for the duel. Right,
give it to us, all right now, I'm nervous Okay,
he's the mouth of the South. Seventy percent of the
world is covered water. The rest is covered by him,
and he's a Mississippi State bulldog. Let's introduce Frederick Smooth
(17:41):
to the duel. That was good and the voice of
the Washington Commander's pregame Show Texas Longhorn and Ren Fair
Extraordinaire Michael Jenkins.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
All right, that's good. You want to do the dual
now on top of little Raiders, Let's do it. Okay,
So here we go, Raiders Commanders, what dual do you
want to see?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
What duel?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Do you want to see? Two guys going at it?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Two guys going at it. Brock Bowers Okay, could be
the best tight end in football. Yep. I want to
see him challenge one Will Harris. I want Will to
challenge him to a due okay, because they're gonna go
back and forth. That's gonna be a brawl right there.
(18:33):
And people don't give Gino his his props. Gino can
throw the damn all right. Geno can throw the damn ball,
all right. So I'm gonna start this off. I did
brock Bowers versus Real Harris. Okay, I'm going Geno versus
Can I do? Should I do the defensive front?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You can?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Should I do the defensive backfield? Mmmm?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
See, well, I want to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I would go the defensive front versus Geno, and my
third one would probably be Max Crosby versus Laramie Tongs.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh, I was gonna say that. And if he lines
up against Josh Connerley, then Josh again is gonna have
to learn.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Quick listen, that's what you gotta do, all right, Like
this is the NFL. Every week is gonna be a
challenge until you stand up and say the challenge is
no more. I'm not giving up anything like this is
the learning curve of a rookie. I was a rookie before.
You don't think my eyes were wide open my first
game when I get on the field with Junior say
I and Doug Flutie, Yes, it's wide open. Only to
(19:39):
come back the next week and had to play the
Cowboys with Joey Galloway like the next week like it
just wouldn't stop. The next week I had the Cardinals
with David Boston, Like, you're not getting a break in
the NFL. This ain't college. You know how college we
play all corn State during this time and year. You're
not sweating.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
You're like, I got this sweek.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
No, no, you actually like, let me pass my stats, right,
let me pay well. You ain't got no stat paying
game in the NFL. Ain't no gimmes in the NFL.
So I think Connley will rise to the occasion because
every time he goes against these great edge rushes, he's
taking something from these games.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean, Parsons across me back to back is no joke.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And Parsons Crosby and don't forget about Abduah Corda Brian
Burns temper do that's true. You're right like it don't stop.
It ain't gonna stop. And that's why the best offensive
lines in football usually a part of the best teams
in football. But the challenge is there, the due al
is there, Crosby versus Laramie Thoms.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
So when you look at Gino, you're taking him against
what the defensive line.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
The whole front. I want the front to get pressure
on there because if it's any weak part to this
this Las Vegas Raider team, to me, it's the offensive line.
They got a legit running back they got legit tight end. Okay,
offensive line, they got Jacobe Miles, a couple of guys
on the edge. Nothing to be excited about. But they
(21:06):
are a team, all right. They got a great coach.
Let's do it there. When you coached Will Pete Carroll
is always this defense is gonna fly around. No matter
what's his name on back of the jersey, it don't matter.
They're gonna play with passion and they gonna give it
everything that they got. All right, So you need to
be ready to play the Raiders. They will not be
an easy win at all.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I'll tell you one duel. I want to see who
you got Terry McClain against the Raiders secondary. Yes, it's
time for Terry to get loose one of those patented
deep throws. And also, if you could, last season, the
Raiders had one of the worst secondaries in the NFL.
I think after one game they're twenty seventh in the league.
So it's time for Terry to get loose against that.
Maybe against Jeremy Chin, I don't know. Yeah, you know
(21:44):
both teammate, Yeah, right, but I want to see Terry.
I think this is his time to get loose, and
that's a.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Dual I want to see and guess what. I second
that due al?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I do?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I second that due all, and I think that's a
good du al. And I think it's Terry tired, you know,
like every like It's just something about the third game
of a year, third game of the year. Last year
was Cincinnati, right, yep, and that's when he really got off.
So now the third game of this year is the
opening Raiders. No better team for Terry to get crunk
and get going.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Let me ask you about Bowers for a second. Yeah,
how difficult is it when you have a tight end
who plays like that? Who is that child? Who's that fastest,
great route runner. It's a big bodied receiver.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Listen. He is the closest thing to a perfect tight
end I have saw come out of college ever since
Tony Gonzales. He's so perfect as a football playing tight end.
The only flaw he has is he's losing his hair.
But the only flaw this guy has is dead because
his run out to the kitch unbelievable, his catch range unbelievable.
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He runs away from linebackers, he boxes out of defensive backs. Yeah,
he's to me right now. Power for power the best
tight end that we will see this year.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It's twenty twenty five. He gets you up next season,
full head of hair.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
He could, he could, he could his waste and they
don't have it all.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Listen, he can, he can do that unpit transfer. Oh
my god, you know they do that pit hair transfer
to the transfer.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
No, they do what hair grows faster than Yeah, but
that's a different type of hair. That's all like squirrely
and wire.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Listen, you ain't if you already missing this, what you're
gonna take back hair? You gotta take hair, all right,
I got a triple check.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Just keep going.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I'll do something, and it's gonna do the research. He's
back in. She's back in. Gino Smith. You're talking about Geno.
He has a great relationship with Pete Carroll. I love
their relationship because Geno reclaimated his career, Yeah with Pete Carroll.
And even after last week's game where Pete said, this
is just a regular Geno game, like he's always good,
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he's always tossing.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, And guess what if I come back as a
coach and I want to win now and my guy
is available, I'm getting him. You grab, I'm getting I'm
getting him and I'm running with him, like Gino don't
get the props he deserved because of his slow start. Yeah,
and I don't know why the NFL is like that.
Like when you draft it high and you don't start
off as fast as you should, they write you off.
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And Geno said he wasn't writing back. I actually respect that.
But we got to get out the Geno. He's a
pocket pass We got to get out the Genie.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, if you give him time, he will absolutely carve
you up.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But you got to get out to him. You know
where he's gonna be at. Like the thing about a
running quarterback sometime makes it hard for his office line
because they don't know where he's at right. But as
a pass rusher, when I know where you're gonna be
at in the pocket, that allows me to hunt you.
I can hunt you for four courts because I know
exactly where you're gonna be. But the one thing Geno
does to offset that he lets the ball out of
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his hand. He's not holding that ball. Yeah, he lets
the ball out of his hand. The question is, can
I defensive backs take the Raiders wide receive was out
the game? Can they do that? Can we stop? Asking Genty,
he hadn't had that game yet. He said, yeah, all right,
so we have to make them one dimensional. Do you
want to stop the pass? Which that's what I would
want to stop, And I'm gonna force you to beat
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me with a rickey running back. I want to make
you one dimensional. I want to take away the pass,
force you to beat me rushing the ball. Can you
be patient enough to rush the ball enough to beat me?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
What are your thoughts on gent? I mean, we don't
have a big sample size, so I hate to draw
these big conclusions. But we didn't see much the pre season,
didn't see much in game one.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
When I watched Genty, all right, what is your defining
trait as an athlete? Let's say somebody like Santana or speed? Right,
this is defining trait? Saquon vision, speed, pretty much everything? Yeah, everything,
pretty much everything. When you say Askton Genty, what first
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can come to mind?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Strength?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, but it ain't strengthen a Derrick henrybody. It's strength
in a good built running back, but it ain't speed,
it ain't agility. It might be vision.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It might be vision.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It might be vision, but until he can put it
all together, in the NFL with worked at Boise State, right,
we are not working in the NFL like you're going
to have to have a defining trade. In that defining trade,
you have to be at the top of it, right
for it to be special. Like when I say b
J and Robinson, you know what the special is, right,
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you know what the sauce is, Tyreek Hill, you know
what the sauce is. Jamar Chase, what doesn't he do well?
So I have to ask myself about GENTI whether is
his defining traits and all those defining traits good enough
for him to be on Saquon and Derrick Henry's level.
I don't know. It's like I'm not afraid to say
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I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And if you're not Derrick Henry or Saquan that's okay.
But that's these guys are as good as it gets.
So he might he might be a very good running
back but never attaining that level.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
But he what's is he an outlier? Like they are outliers,
They're they're outliers? Yeah? Is he just another good running
back in the league. We've seen this before.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's hard to be an outlier in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
All right, thank you, because everybody so good, right, Kenny
Walker for Seattle, very good, very good running back. They
wouldn't put him on that level. So what if I
told you he was Kenny Walker a Kiwin Williams from
The Ring, Right, what if I told you he was them?
It's a strong possibility you can you can win with them. Yeah,
(27:40):
so you don't have to be And that's okay and
they But but if I'm the Raiders where they drafted
him in.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That's what I was. It's because he's a top ten pick.
If you're gonna draft a running back that high in
today's NFL, it means it means they hope you are
an outlier. They're not looking for you to just be
You have.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
To be generational. Yeah, I don't know. I don't Jinx,
I don't know if he's generational. All I'm saying is
he gives off a lot. Emmitt Smith, Okay, all right,
well this is what I say about Emmitt. His thing
was Emmitt never got hurt, and when he was hurt,
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he still played. He was tough, tough as a two dollars,
but he wasn't Barry Sanders.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And he wouldn't run away from you.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
No, he wasn't Bo Jackson like he wasn't these freak outs.
But what he did had was a top quarterback, top wise,
incredible line, the best officive line ever assembled. And he
had longevity. Yeah, so what if I told you he
more Emmitt smithish without the best offensive line in football.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I mean, Emmon had a way of making people miss.
He was good at glancing off guys.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
He was hard to tackle, Yes, uh, and that's what
I find that what I see from genty hard to
tackle in college, but it's that pro hard to tackle.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
We will see. We're gonna find out. We're gonna find out. Guys.
Let us know what you think. Doesn't matter what you
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Thank you. Do we have any bore supposed this week?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
No boy, no no voice fails this week. It was
kind of a tough game.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, that's a tough one. Y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Can't let a tough game stop y'all from communicating like that.
When you communicate the most, it's doing down times and
bad times because you're looking for answer.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Tell us how you're feeling.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Don't, don't, don't, don't be a front runner. Don't when
things are going good, don't Washington is Washington. That then
we lose a game, you don't even want to call us.
We ain't actually need to pick up the phone. You
be leaving a message, right, even if it's you know,
Fred and Jinks. Man, it was a hard week for me, man,
watching us lose to Green Bay really broke my had
those cheese packers hurting my feelings. It happens, that's true,
(30:04):
Like this is when I supposed to be here with you.
This is when you're supposed to be This is what
fan bases do. They come together doing the hard times
and we celebrate the good time. Yeah, yeah, man, Do
not shy away from the phone because we took an
l and don't act like we got beat by fifty
or something. All right, we got beat by legit super.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Bowl packers are as Super Bowl contender legit as you get.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And they lost some people too. They lost Jalen Reid
like they lost. They lost some people too, so you
never know what the team is gonna look like sixteen
weeks from now. Yeah, you don't know who gonna be healthy.
We lost two hour starters this week. All right, we're
gonna have two new starters coming up against the Raiders.
That's the reality of it. Don't run from their pain,
run to that pain.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Well, leave us your voicemails, please, you can leave your
thoughts going into the Raiders game, and then be sure
to call us after the Raiders game because we'll definitely
want to react to those. So don't forget to Just
don't forget to leave us the voicemail the game. I'm
sure you have thoughts.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, of course they got thoughts, because when you lose,
it kind of messages your week up.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Kicks wall to get out of that funk.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
The one thing I real I realized last year as
the team start to win. I would go in the
gas station and everybody just chipper. I would go. I
would go in the grocery store and people just hey,
you know you yeah, just going to a restaurant, and
everybody had hard hip hip arade.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Nobody was saying Hardy hard.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
The community was different. When I take my eating scrolls
and I walk people like fred By, Golly, we're going
to do it.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Frederick's team A or something else.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Listen. It has changed my work week, So I understand
the pleasure that it brings. But that's what being a
fan is. It's like being in a relationship. Good days,
bad days, but you still love that team all right,
so I slick with them. I need more messages when
we lose than when we win. Okay, and I'm talking
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to you, traveling Jay.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'm talking to you direct message for a traveling Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I'm just saying I need are you traveling, Jay? You
out of all people, of all the people like and
I like to hear. I like to hear what you
really have to say about how you felt about the game.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah? Did you feel like you got way too quick?
Did you feel like home feel advantage did something to it?
What about the shark week? Uh? They just played faster.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I think, just right now, the Packers are better football team.
And that just today, and that's today, and that can change.
But sometimes you just gotta say, like this team can
play with anybody, right.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
That can play with anybody. I said a Super Bowl contending.
I didn't say a playoff, right, It's two different things,
all right. The first week the season, Giants, I don't
think nobody say the Giants super Bowl contend.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
We went to Green Bay and played the Super Bowl
contend to hit their home traveling on a short week.
We lost about what eleven disrespectable to me.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, they shut down the lines and often they did
nothing nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
At least we got points. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Okay, oh Anna, oh hi hi, Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
See, I've been I think as if I'm not going
to be on here, and I feel like I've just
been chit chatting away, just the same as usual. So okay,
I know how much Fred hates lists.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I do, so I'm a little list.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
This is from a couple of weeks ago, and let's
take Thursday football out of the equation. But Daniel Lovsky
shared his top five quarterbacks approaching elite status, and I
wanted to get your thoughts. I only put passing stats
on the rundown, I realized. But number one is Jaden Daniels.
Number two is Jordan Love, three Justin Herbert for Kyler Murray,
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five C J. Stroud. Do we agree? Disagree? Thoughts.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I feel like Justin Herbert has been elite for a while.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
They had crowned him too early? Okay, they crowned him
too early. The winning didn't match the talent at first. Yeah,
but once he got Hobba, now he becomes a legit
threat because now he has a chance to win through
better coaching and better coaching over also his defense, because
the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
There's a reason why Chargering is a third right.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, James Dangas, Yes, Jordan Love. I think
they ain't want to put him there yet because he
will turn the ball over some time and he get
in these these funks. But Jordan Love most definitely headed
for starting. Ye. And you know what, I could say
this about Green Bay, and I know people gonna be like,
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how are you gonna say that, Fred, because I did
Green Bay. If you look at them, they're finna go
on forty consecutive years a Pro Bowl quarterback.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
It's remarkable.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
They're fin to go forty plus years a Pro Bowl quarterback.
They got two Super Bowls. Most overrated franchise all the time,
forty consecutive years of Pro Bowl Listen to me, Jinxon,
Nobody does that better than Green Bay. One quarterback after
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the other all fall short.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
How much of that do you put on Aaron Rodgers?
Should he have at least one more ring?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So shit Brett too. Yeah, and they won these rings
so early in their career that they kind of lived
off of those rings. Yeah, but if I told you
all right, who else had something comparable? Forty nine ers
went from Joe Montowna to Steve Young. Oh yeah, multiple
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super Bowls, multiple each one of them. Yep. Green Bay.
For as good as they being, they fall short a lot.
They fall short a lot with Pro Bowl quarterback. And
people need to take what I'm saying because it's real,
Like forty consecutive years. Think about that, that's true and
falling short. So Kyler Murray he's the enigma.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I can't figure Kyler out. And I feel like he's
always gonna have those games where he looks elite, but
he's never gonna be consistent enough. Maybe it's the market.
I don't know, but I don't feel like he's elite.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
This is what I think gonna hold Kyler back from
being what they call elite NFL quarterback. Not his size,
not his speed, not his throwing ability. I think it's
his leadership ability. Yeah, I think he's lacking in that one.
The quarterback can afford to be quiet, Yeah, you're talking
to the whole team. You can't afford to be secluded
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the post of the team. I think he's lacking in
the leadership department. And I think this what's gonna keep
him out of there? And C. J. Scrodd, I think
he just got it, you think so. I think he does.
He got the it and he just grounded verbal. He
understands people, very good with people. So yeah, I think
I think this list is right. But if I had
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to put somebody at five, it would be Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, that's kind of how I feel too. Yeah, And
there's something And I don't know if it's being with
the Cardinals, because I feel if the Cardinals are always
kind of out of the conversation. Yeah, I don't know
if it's. And you're right about Colin if you just
listen to him, like he's just a very kind of reserved,
secluded Yeah, and it's it's it's so strange to see
a quarterback have that sort of demeanor.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's rare. And that's why I say it ain't his talent. Yeah,
this is about leadership. I just don't think he'll be
to this. What's gonna make it consistent? Like when you're
a leader, your team's always play. Like we know Pat
Mahone's team gonna win ten plus games year. He's a leader,
all right, Well, Kyler depends more on his talent, Like
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I'm going to show y'all how good I am through.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
If you need a leader, I'm not that dude. Now,
I'll perform, but that that intangible part of it that
you can't measure yes for someone else.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
But then you got to have Kalais Campbell on your team, right,
You got to have something.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Because he was the story yesterday. It wasn't Kyler.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
So you got to have somebody that's vocal enough to
say I got it. Yeah. And I don't know if
substantial with a quarterback because the quarterback going out to
play all of us.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
So when I think about Kyler, the only thing that
I think stops him from going to the next level
is the fact he's not voice for and he's not
a leader.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I think he's one of those guys who look back
on his credit. Oh he was really good, Yeah, but
it wasn't great, But wasn't right, wasn't transitident?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
What wasn't what we thought he was going to be
coming out of college? All right? So most definitely he
might get a fresh start somewhere with the right head
coach that does the leading for him. Like he has
to really be with a Sean McVay right, Like he
has to be with somebody with such a presence that
it don't matter how the quarterback leads. Like he has
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to be with a guru. Yeah, a true like coaching guru.
What about Caleb Wiggs?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
You know what, I'm just I am someone who tries
to be I'm not a hot tape person. Yeah, I'm
kind of coming around to the idea, and I believe
in being patient. I just don't think Caleb has a juice.
His mechanics aren't great. He misses some easy throws, He'll
make some really bad mistakes. I guess you can say, though,
he's kind of a rookie again because it's a new system,
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offensive system, so I can I'll certainly hear that. But
I just it feels like leadership. Why something is missing
there in a big way.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I can say personality wise, Oh, it's a missing that's
what I mean emotional. He has no emotional control, meaning
quarterbacks can't spans out right, and he does it all
the time. He misses the pass, he goes to the bench,
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he'll just like.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Lose his mind for a second on the field, and
then you see it on the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yes, like it's something not there, right, but it's something there.
Like the talent, you like, he can make every throw.
It ain't nothing he can't do. So I know they
got to be like really frustrating to being just because
I got a guy that can do it. But when
the play break down, what used to what used to
be his strength in college is quickly in the league
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turning into the worst part of his game. So sporadically,
now Michael Penix has this calmness about him. And as
you see, I'm going through Jaden all his class man.
I think Michael Penix got some leadership ability that's soft
touch with that left hand. He got it all right.
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So I feel good about Michael Penix.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
What about J. J.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
McCarthy, who knows?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
You know. Also, I'm to say with Pennix, he's essentially
a rookie, Like he's only played like six NFL games,
but he got controlled. He's already in control. Like his
demeanor is is totally different, totally different, totally different. I
think j is gonna be all right. But I knew
after game one. I'm like, these people are gonna crown
this guy. I was like, just wait, is he still
a rookie?
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Like you still gotta let him develop? But I think
if he goes on, he got all the things that
it takes. And I could tell the team already loves him,
so he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
He's gonna be fine. Who else we got bow Knicks
did not have a good day.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Now, he hasn't looked in the first couple of games.
He struggled the Titans in Week one.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
The Titans is a better team than you think.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I agree, you're not gonna wint a bunch of games,
but there they're gonna be a difficult out.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, the Titans are a better team than you think.
And uh, I think I think Bubba bo Knicks to
get this thing and going, Yeah, I really enjoy watching
him play the quick release. He got better athlete than
you think. Like I told you, I said this for
the last year's draft, best quarterback draft for all time, yeah,
we look back on it, even Spencer Ratler part of
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their drift. Right when we look back on it, that
will be the best quarterback draft all time. I don't
know if I left out of an MD. I kind
of got them all. Yeah, it's a ton of talent,
all different talents too.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
No, most definitely will geek out. Let's see what I
got for y'all this week. Let's see what I got.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I'm ready for this. Hope it's nothing.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah, ready to move on from that one baldness. Oh
that's what you think it is.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
I've learned enough, all right, checked this out.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Okay. In Alberta, which is in Canada, Okay, it is
illegal to keep pet rats, all right. An insight of
a rat must be reported to the government immediately, all right. Alberta.
Alberta is one of the few places in the world
that's completely red free. Really, you can't have one as
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a pit and they they are not there. They terminated
them all You know what.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
I respect that.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I love that. I hate rats.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
You don't think. You don't think taking that the rats
out of the ecosystem does something.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I don't think. I don't know. Likes like native to Like, yes,
you just stopped.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
I'm thinking, where are rats?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
It's like warm climates they but they do well and
cold climates also rats rats like and people keep them
as pits come come on.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Like, Oh okay, so they long time ago. Just due
to their adaptability and association with humans, rats have spread worldwide.
But it's like if you don't have rats living there,
they weren't ever essential to the ecosystem.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Interesting, So so rats? Uh urban animals? Right? Yeah, the
urban animal, just like pigeons. Yes, so without the urban environment,
where do they naturally come from?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Nowhere they had to be.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
We didn't always have cities. Yeah, where was a pigeon
before we had a building for him to sit on?
Because they're not in the woods with the eagles and them,
you're not gonna you only see them in the city. Yeah,
what's the natural habitat of a pigeon?
Speaker 1 (44:36):
It's the city, jinx. It wasn't cities all the time.
I know, I don't know. This is what geek out
of school.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Hey, that's why I like to have these things and
talk about these days.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That's a good question. Hey, And speaking of rats, Oh
all right, California squirrels. I'm there series. Okay, sorry you're
laughing at me.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Well, it was the transition speaking of rats California squirrels
like you got me without one.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Okay, California squirrels, I'm coming niggas that they're starting to
eat other squirrels. Yeah, they're hunting each other for the
first time, so they don't do they not have a
food source. The teeth are getting longer, and they're no
longer eating nuts and berries. They're eating other squirrels.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
So they're just showing you that animals they go through phases.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah, they go through phases. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Imagine walking on a trail and just seeing the squirrel
eating another squirrel.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Oh my god, would you.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Be like that're just They're just a hannibal elector of
squirrels right there, Like yeah, gross, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
That minds man. When I was in graduate graduate school,
I worked on a daycare. I told this before, and
I saw I was in charge of thirty kids. That
was the field trip coordinate. I take these kids on. Man.
They would never allow to say, fifteen kids a day
in a van. Half of them have seat belts, half
I was in charge of all these kids wild. But
I say it's because I got there and I was
the only guy that worked in daycare and everybody called
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me mister Mike, and so they of course every little
classroom had gerbils or hamsters and one would always die
all the time, and I, of course I would ride it, like, Hi,
mister Mike. In room five, we have a guinea pig
that has passed. Could you go ahead and just take it?
Speaker 2 (46:37):
And I'd be like okay.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Going there every other day there was some pet.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
That's why I would never have passed.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I takeing care of it a bunch of kids.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I have bought my kids dogs. That's the only animal.
I don't buy rodents for my kids. Hampstead, you ain't
gonna do nothing with their hampster. The hampster gonna get
loose in that house. And I'm gonna have hamster's in
a while. Right, You're not getting any of that. I'm
just as a parent. Yeah, Like I'm getting the farm.
(47:08):
And my whole thing is I tell my kids I'm
not getting any useless animals, because they're like, yeah, I
want to put a peacocker.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
No peacock useless, right, I don't.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
I don't do useless Yeah, I don't do useless animals,
like I'm just not And I find hamsters rodents, yes,
like I remember when I was young and I went
in my homeboy room invited me to his house. I
go in there. He got a pet hamster, just a
rat like you just so soft, Like why do you
(47:40):
have a pet hamster? Like you can't walk him in
the park? Like no, like, what's the what can you
do with it? By the way, this dude got kicked
out the girl I mean home depot for bringing his
support animal, which happened to be an alligator in a sweater. Wait, yes, okay,
(48:02):
all right, No, I'm dead serious.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
No, no, and it's checking out. No.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
This dude literally got kicked out of home depot for
bringing well they didn't let him in. Okay, they say
you can't come in. You cannot bring this alligator with
the sweater in. He was like, this is my support like.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
The alligators find but the sweater is too much, too much. Yeah,
what smooth? We got loud man after loss, and we're
waiting for independent verification. We didn't get loud and good stories.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
This is what I did. All they lives out in truth.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
I think we maybe a lot, maybe a couple of there.
Thanks for being with us. Let's get a dub against Raiders.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
You see next week.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
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