December 15, 2024 • 34 mins
Ever wondered what really goes on in the world of swingers? Carly dives into all things swinging—from exclusive clubs to the unwritten rules of the lifestyle. She breaks down the dos and don’ts, shares personal experiences, and spills on the most surprising things she’s seen. Whether you’re curious, experienced, or just here for the stories, this episode is a must-listen!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Appoche production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
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not a how to guide for people wanting to get
into the industry. I don't want people to think that
they're going to necessarily learn something here. It's more just
(01:27):
a fun and interesting take on the industry, but also
just coming from my point of view. I'm sitting down
with my producer getting down to the nitty gritty of
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(01:48):
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we go.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
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done one of.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
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Speaker 3 (02:08):
My life has been far more tame without hearing these stories.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yes, what's happened?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I go back to my normal life and it seems
so boring and dull.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Oh lies, I don't believe that for one minute. So
I had a really interesting I woke up to a
really interesting email this morning. Okay from a company that
is offering to turn my lady bits into a flashlight mold.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
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Speaker 2 (02:40):
For everybody who wants are fully ripped vagina in their house.
How amazing is it?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, well, did you tell them how jacked yours is,
because you have said that on the podcast of Fair Future.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, it's fully ripped, would you?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Okay, I don't know, this is a I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
This kind of like is a little bit tilating for me.
This is a bit of fun. Okay. So I always
wondered like, how hell, I don't know, I look at
the inside of flashlights or if I'm sexpot or whatever,
and I look at them and they all just look like,
I don't know, ribbed weird alien concoctions.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, I mean I can't say I ever used one,
but they I used to work in hospital for many years,
and you know, like the glass cleaner, how you know
with the Brussels, Well, I just thought they just look likedicularly.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It kind of reminds me of like, I don't know,
maybe predator's mouth, Like when predator's mouth opens.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's all just like that's pretty graphic.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, that's kind of what I feel like it is.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Or I'm going to Japan soon and they have these
in Australias or the the the umbrella dryers. Have you
ever seen those when you walk in on it and
you put it in and it's like a weird little
sleeve sock.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, okay, the umbrella. I feel that that seems Maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Try putting your penis in there and see what.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I'll be invited back to the shops.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So okay. So what they do is because I've wondered, like,
how the hell, like, how can you replicate in there?
You know, I can't. I don't even know what it's like.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, I wonder it's obviously the front mound, like they're
just going to put some plastery putty or whatever and
get a mold of your well.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Okay, so they do send out a kit to my
house for me to make a mold of my bits. Right,
surely it's like not a mold that I put inside
myself because that feels unsafe.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No, it would be the outside.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
They handle the inside situation, because the insider the all
mechanical whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I'd imagine, you know what I mean, just out of
the front bang.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It'd be pretty like if you've seen the pictures of
the is it the goma or no, what is it
mona in all of Vagina?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yes, I went there recently.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Any similar up there?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yes, y is that me? Did I do this?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So so really interesting. I think I'm going.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, what would be the what's the idea then, so
that like you're essentially leasing your pussy.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, I mean you can't do that already.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well fair, fair for all the people who can't get
to it, for all the people not in capital cities
around Austraia. Well, I think it. They make it and
I sell it. It's just a it's a product. It's
a product on offered to me that that they can sell.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So so is that a lot like is that like
a you'll get a percentage of the like royalties?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Also wow, would you worry that it would take like
some business away?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I was kind of brainstorming in the car, like do
I do the whole You know, if you get the product,
well then maybe I offer a special online only fans
package where you know, you can use the product at
the same time as you know, having a live video
call with me or something that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Give it to me like scan the QR corde QR
code and then it's immediately links to you live. Oh god,
that's kind of like would you ever get into like
the VR because there's like VR.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Porn and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yes, that's where you probably incorporate your It's really like
a horny version of that Ready Player one movie.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It is look, we're already there, like you can already.
There's so much porn that you can watch on all
the websites that is VR based, and so when you
watch it without a headset. I actually did that the
other day with some clients. We watched some VR porn
really and whoa, it's very close up, like it's look.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You put the headset on.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
No we didn't. We didn't have the headset, but we
were just watching the porn of like VR porn and
it's yeah, it's you can imagine with a headset it
would be insane, like there would be so much booty
in vagina in your face. Like it was actually quite confronting.
I was like, wow, I could not film this. Imagine
like a film that was like she's got a camera
(07:07):
like right here on.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Like the three D cameras.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, look that's probably not for me.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
But so we could see on the shelves soon the
Carli electric the emphasis on the electric.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Maybe it's powered, yeah, Carlie solo power.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So oh man, that's kind of wild.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
If you're yeah, then it's like out there, like you
talk about getting your photo.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, now it's like it's a sculpture.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Really got bits out there. Look, could be something fun
to show the great grandkids one day in my day.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Come on, look at your grandma's.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Put brought out one of these again?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well it is episode It is season three, Carlie. And
what a fit that we go season three and we're
talking about three plus Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Be swingers one of my favorite topics. See. A year ago,
I hadn't yet done any swinging whatsoever. And this year
has been the year of the swing for me. Okay,
I've done all the swingers, all the parties, so many events.
Couples done it in work life, I've done it in
(08:31):
my private life. It's just been a whole year of
it and I am totally here for it.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So can you explain, like, what exactly is a swinger
and why is that different or isn't it different to
being in a polyamorous or open relationship? Like I feel
like they're all spoken about as if it's this spectrum
of allowing other people into your sex life or relationship.
Where where do these all sit?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I think the term swinging and swingers is just something
that has been around for like decades now. I remember, oh,
this is so much info. I remember my mum kind
of alluding to me one day that potentially my grandparents
were swingers in the seventies. I would pretty like, well
(09:19):
to do and yeah, literal keys in bowls, like that's
how it That's how it was, and it's just kind
of nice to know that it's just being passed down
to my family. Thanks, thanks, thanks guys. So, I think
the term swingers is just a really broad umbrella for
(09:40):
what we now have better terms for, you know, like
the ethical non monogamy and you know, pollin and things
like that. But I think back in the day it
was just ah, you're a swinger, and that was kind
of that was kind of it. So I like to
say swinging even though those the term now really isn't used.
It's more used in a more fun kind of liberal way,
(10:03):
not in a very peace PC way. Recently, I had
something that I haven't done before, and I'm usually I
do not blow the lines of business and pleasure, even
though they are kind of together.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But I don't have a pleasure business.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, yeah, my work is my work, and I tried
to be very professional. I keep my work very work like,
and I don't really blend the two. I don't bring
a lot of my personal life or all my own
pleasure time into my work, as I like to keep
them separate. Yes, however, I kind of threw that all
(10:45):
out the window. Recently, I had a couple's booking and
I picked them up afterwards.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Wait, so okay, well so the booking ended.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So the booking ended, and we were all just looking
at each other being like, well, we all just okay,
there's no alarm. I have to look at the time.
I'm trying to be mindful of the time, so, you know,
because if people want to extend, well I need to
(11:17):
get paid, you know. Anyway, the booking was over, they
were getting dressed, and I was kind of like, ah,
well that was fun. Should we go for a drink?
And they were like yeah, And so then we went
out for some drinks and bonded more, kind of reminiscing
about all the very naughty things that we all just
(11:38):
did to each other, and then organized to see them
again with somebody that I'm seeing, and so we all
caught up unpaid, paid yeah, so we all called up
a week ago.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You've got a horror story version of this.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I can't believe that you've now, like in the horror
stories we've covered this where it was awkward and you
hated it.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, you've revisited people.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I think it was the people won't right, but anyway,
finding the right people. So then, yeah, we all just
went out for drinks. And it was a bit weird
for me, just reminding myself that I wasn't working and
being like, okay, no, I'm not watching the time. I
don't have to be making sure that their every needs
(12:25):
are met and that I'm you know, providing them a service.
I got that. I got to relax a bit. So
I got to bring someone along with me, and they came,
and I think that they were even more nervous than
them paying me. I think they felt more comfortable paying me,
to be honest. But it was good fun. Went back
to my hotel.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And where you were already.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, yes, yes, and yeah, so I never do that.
I never blow the lines. And so I've somehow turned
clients into non.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Paying and let's not get any ideas those clients are listening, right,
I know, I know, girl, needs to pay some bills.
Like I'm excited, but I'm also kind of disappointed in
your lack of professionalism.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I feel like, yeah, it was actually it was actually
so good. I can't help but feel that the person
that I brought along felt a bit uncomfortable, and then
also the lovely female and the other partnership felt a
bit uncomfortable with it all.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
But oh really, I think, ah see, this is where
it's so hard, Like we're all kind of exploring this
territory for the first time.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Like I'm not you know, I'm not a pro when
it comes to my private life in anything swingers, I'm
finding my way and I'm I'm just feeling what works
and what's good and what doesn't work. And you just
kind of like mumble your way through it because you
literally have no idea and you're bringing other people into
your space and into your realm, and you know, it's
(14:02):
it is quite daunting, and so I think the nerves
just got the better of some of them because you
and you know, they kept on apologizing saying, we just
have no idea. This is our first time doing this,
like it was our first time with you paying for it,
and now we're doing this and this is just our
(14:23):
first time and we're finding our feet.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Can I ask with the couple when you did the
couple booking, is it it's obviously male steered or.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Was it? Like they both were like.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think it's very obvious when it is male steered,
And it does make me feel a little bit more
uncomfortable because I wonder if you know, somebody's been pressured
into it. However, majority of the time it's either female
driven or you can tell it's a very easing no, no, no,
she's reached out to she wants to make it happen,
(14:59):
so she's reached out to make the booking or she
you know, has a very active part in the booking process.
And you can I can tell, I can tell as
soon as they're in the room talking to me what
the where the power lies and what the dynamic is
of the relationship. And yeah, there are times where I'm
kind of a bit worried as to if the female
wants to be there, but that it's quite rare generally
(15:22):
the woman is just like, yes, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah right, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
But and like we said, I think we've covered this before,
but like the idea of getting a professional adoor.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It is kind of a little less.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I would imagine the safety net for the couple is
that you're never going to see this person again. Correct,
and that's it. But this is probably where the awkwardness
comes into it. When you're now in your experience. Recently
you went and broke that.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, vow yes, And so it is a very controlled environment.
You're controlling the environment when you are getting you're paying
somebody to come and join your relationship. You have full
control over that. And yeah, it does shift. I find
I find it so easy. I'm not nervous when I
see a couple when they've paid me, I jump straight in.
(16:14):
I'm so confident. But when it's in my personal life,
I am a nervous wreck and I can't get a
hold of it. And I think, I don't know, it's
just it's something that I can't work out. But I
get so nervous.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
There was.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I actually went to a swingers a black tie masquerade
swingers event in I was actually uh Northern New South Wales,
but it's a Brisbane based swing. I don't know. I
just want to keep on calling them swingers. But anyway,
so they're called Shoeshoe and it's c h oh you
(16:56):
just for everybody playing at home. They were fantastic. There's
an element of going to swingers parties where I think
everybody's going to be gross and nasty and old, and
it's going to be full of old, gross city men
who are trying to like grab at me, and you
know it's going to be They're all going to be
in the corner whanking and I don't know. That kind
(17:18):
of has always filled my mind and has stopped me
from going to any events, even though I've toyed with
the idea. Sometime I was like maybe eighteen, I went
to this Shoeshoe event. Everyone there was so insanely attractive.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Okay it was.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Their bartenders were attractive. Everybody who came and put on shows.
They had like people. They had a stripper doing a
show and she was absolutely banging. They had full Shabari ropes.
Shabari is where it's the oh god, I'm going to
(18:00):
butcher this, it's the rope play. So they were tired.
They Christmas Ham, yes, only sexier's pretty sexy, you know
what I mean, getting up smashing that man.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'm smashing that ham. Days later, I just.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Look like a sexy Christmas Ham when I've got those
like full body stocking suits on, where like I think
it's gonna look hot, but I just look like a
Christmas Ham anywhere it's not hot.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
So that that's like that sounds like they're set up.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Is like you know that old movie like Eyes Why
I Shut type situation, the same vibe.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
But it's nice to know that there are those places
that you can go to, because there are other places
that I've been to where I have been so nervous
but also been like I don't want to interact with
anyone or do anything because I'm not attracted to anybody
here and I'm not into this.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
They have very like they have like strict.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I used to live with a couple who delved into
that realm for a bit, and I used to pick
them up from the club afterwards because I'd do like
late late night radio at the time, sure, and I'd
like message me and be like late night pick him
up from the club or the the nine am pick
up from some fancy house in Bondi because they've all
(19:19):
kicked on. But they like they said, there's a lot
of kind of rules and stuff and then when they
first went, it was like they were just having sex
with each other in the public space. And my mate
said that, you know, he'd be, you know, having sex
with his girlfriend and then someone would come over and
(19:40):
tap him on the shoulder and kind of nonverbally be
like and then he would go.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And they and they just walk away.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
That's is exactly what my experience has been like, I
think one of the things is And so a lot
of the clients who book me I talked to about
how I've just kind of dipped my toes into the
swinging world by going to these events, and they're always
so curious because obviously they've thought the same way, but
they've never gone to jump right into It can be
(20:15):
so daunting, but I think to realize that you don't
have to get involved, so you can just go and
watch and see what the vibe is. Maybe even if
you're going alone or if you're going with a partner,
have no expectations whatsoever. Don't think that you're going to
go there and meet hotties and bang people all night.
(20:37):
Go there with I'm just going to watch, I'm going
to learn, I'm going to see if this feels good
or right for me and see if I would possibly
want to get involved. For me at these swingers parties,
I am at the level where I just have sex
with one person, and I'm not yet at a level
where I can move around and try to sample everyone
(21:02):
in the room.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Same person, like, same person.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You arrive with, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah you said, like,
or if you go alone, I would imagine that's not allowed.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So these places do have vetting processes. When they do
announce a date for their event, they'll tell you when
you know they're taking applications or you can buy tickets.
What will happen is, especially if you're a single male
is of course for these events, they have high numbers
of men trying to come to these events. So even
(21:31):
what Shoesho does is they'll have say ten male tickets available,
ten female tickets available, and then ten couples tickets available,
so joint tickets for couples. So they will vet everyone.
You have to have a zoom call with them. They
ask you questions and you you know, they want to
find out about you, what you're like as a person,
(21:56):
find out your experience in the scene. You don't have
to have experience, but just to find out where you're
at see your mentality around everything. Obviously they don't want
you know, drop kick eighty year old men just coming
to perv on young girls. You know, like they want
to fill the room with like minded individuals who are
(22:16):
all kind of on the same page with everything. And yeah,
they did a really good job, really good job. I
walked in and I was like, everyone here is so hot.
It was insane. But yeah, so you get vetted. But
even you know, I've been to nightclub parties. So there
are nightclub events ah so all around the country.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So this masquarade one's like top that's top.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
That's top tier.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
That is top tier, and then down that would be
nightclub no.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
So I would say that there are three different levels
of swingers events. The kind of like the easiest and
a real fun way to get into it without you know,
any expectation or you know, worrying that you're just going
to see all the like five hundred penises or something.
Is a lot of places do just nightclub events. One
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of the longest running events in Australia is called per
and they're all around there. They'll there's you know, Melbourne,
they go to Adelaide, they go to Sydney there all around,
and they do these big events where they'll theme the event,
so say Saints and sinners, and so you have to
dress up. It's a nightclub event, so you know, you
(23:31):
buy a ticket, it'll be like fifty bucks or something,
and you go along to the event and it's a
just a night like you know, it's just any nightclub night.
It's closed off to their event, so everybody dresses a
lot more risk. Guay, there's a lot of skin being shown,
but everybody's on the dance floor and drinking and there's
DJs and you know, everybody's making out with each other
(23:52):
and that's kind of it.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, so there's that kind of level. Then the next
level is there'll be events where you can go, say,
everybody turns up to a bar. There'll be like thirty
people at a bar and you'll sit around and you
drink and you mingle, and then after the bar you
have the option to go back to a hotel to play.
(24:15):
If you've decided that you've met somebody that you like
or you know, you you know, want to take it
that step further, you can go and do that. Then yeah,
the Crema de la Creme is the big event where
you go to Airbnb or you go to you know,
someone's big mansion or something.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
The mansion one still happen like the ones in the movies,
like the or not even the mansion, like.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
The local neighborhood and everyone's just getting into it. Yes, Underdog.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So I've been to one in Adelaide. I went Adelaide,
I went to the rabbit Hole. People were not sleeping.
I went to the rabbit Hole in Adelaide and it's
a massive mansion that they've converted into this incredible space.
There's like huge hot tub, like twenty person hot tub,
(25:02):
there's multiple rooms, there's like a sh drip, a pole,
it's just it's pretty. It's pretty incredible. And then the
Shushu one that I went to was at this incredible Airbnb.
They get the most amazing like mansions and like fully
deck it out and there's hundreds of candles everywhere and
it's all very sexy, very sexy.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I'm just looking at the rabbit Hole website and the
first event that they have up here is at the
time of this recording, it's this weekend and it says
my ultimate fantasy gang bag gang.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Bang event group gang bang event.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yes, two, I am at the rabbit Hole in Adelaide
play party of three men for every lady. God, you
wouldn't know what to do with yourself. Girls night for
women only?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Would you ever because you participate in these three relationships?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Would you ever just do all women?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah? I would. I would just just to see what
it was like.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Who's easier to pleasure?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I do like pleasuring?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Well?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
See, And I know I've mentioned this before. Is it
because that I see men full time that I think
the novelty at the moment for me seeing women is
women are just something different. So it's just adding a
little bit of spice back into my work. Sure, or
maybe I just really love going down on women. I
(26:35):
don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, but okay, can you tell it a woman's faking it?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's bloody?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Okay, Okay, but can I say that all? Yeah? I
have because I'm at a point now where I've I'm
with women every week now right for work, and I
feel like I'm at a point where I know what
I'm doing and I'm kind of like I got this
(27:05):
and I do my thing, and women are losing their
minds and I'm kind of like I feel like this
isn't faked, but who knows, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You get a kind of lingus expert in.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
It also makes me realize that you have no fucking
idea when somebody's taking it, because I really have no
fucking idea. But I also believe in my ability and
think that I'm good. But then I feel like that's
every dude.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
All, no, you're a blog?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh no, A.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Who do you think are the most common people you see?
They're like it is it kind of like young people
that are really into experience because it's like we're in
such a sex positive mindset now that I feel like
I know like a handful of couples that are like
in or have been in that kind of situation.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, So everybody at these swingers like events that I've
been to, the ones that are more open where it's okay,
say like a nightclub event, definitely younger crowd. They're just
excited to not wear many clothes. I think, can go
out and dance and get floating kiss everyone that is
(28:20):
kind of their level. I feel like that's just entry level.
So they're kind of in their twenties.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah, Like like how every girls are bisexual in the
Yeah you've kissed a couple of years, Yeah, come back
to me later.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Did you have a bisexual era when.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Kiss?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
So I then think that the people that go to
the full sex events are late twenties, even though there
are younger people there, but primarily late twenties. To the
I'd say like forty forty five year old crowd. Any
(28:59):
you don't really get any older than that, and you
don't really get any younger. It's that I think it's
when people are comfortable with their bodies, comfortable with themselves,
still have lots of energy and ready to explore. I
also feel like so the people that I see all
my clients and this is okay. So I'm seeing couples
now weekly if not daily when I'm on tour. Wow, yeah,
(29:24):
it's it's just absolutely taken off because I'm so vocal
about it. I think on the podcast and also online
now I'm getting all of the couples. So that's great.
Let's keep going love it anyway if.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You can get a couple on the podcast one day. Yes,
I love to pick ask.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Some questions because I am full of questions. I always
ask questions whenever you know, I'm always asking questions of couples,
just to you know, find out what makes it if you.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Like that, if you are a couple that has booked
and you're interested.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So I have found that primarily most of the couples
that do book me are people who have been divorced.
So they've been divorced and now in their thirties or forties,
they've met their partner that they've been with for some time,
a couple of years or whatever, and they're way more
(30:21):
open in that relationship. I don't get that's a lie.
I do have one couple that's been together. I was
fucking them on their thirtieth wedding anniversary.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Or something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
No, no, no, anyway. So but generally it's not people
who've been together forever. People who have been together forever.
I think that's you know, there's that air of, well,
this is the boundaries inside of our relationship, and we've
never stepped outside, and we've never explored. I am booked
primarily by people who have had that, they've had the
(30:56):
very serious monogamous relationship, they've come out of that knowing
that that's not for them. Then they're with somebody more
open minded because they know that they're more open minded,
they meet a similar type of person, and so then
that's when I get booked. I'm seeing people who have
been divorced, and it's pretty rare to have anyone who
(31:17):
who has been with the one person forever or they've
been in a really, really, really long term relationship.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I guess that.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Makes sense with the divorce thing, hey, because it's like
the amount of people that I know, I'm geting that
agent with a lot of my friends are like split
up with their first partners and stuff, and they're having
this like resurgence of sexuality.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
And find themselves because the world's kind of changed as well.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
I guess, so you re enter a dating world where
it's like, yeah, you can hook up with a lot
of people.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
You can casually, like I got made a single.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Now that's casually, you know, out there being more casual
than I mean, they were always kind of enjoyed themselves,
but probably a bit more engaged in the dating scene
than they were previously.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I love it perfect, I think it's fantastic. I'm all
for it. I'm all for it. I've had those really
serious monogamous relationships and was just soul bored out of
my absolute brain and.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Okay I'm in and not let's not okay, it's really fancy.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I mean yours is probably not boring. It's probably really great.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What's that for you?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
For me and my brain? Not great? Yeah, I need spice?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Had two d's yet, avenue. Would you take that as
a booking? Yes, really twos?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
But I only get those inquiries are like two am,
hey me and my mate, and it's just like, bro,
did it dick even work anymore? I'm not sure? Okay? Cool? Sweet?
Like yeah, no, if they booked me at a you
know they but see, guys don't want to guys don't
want to fuck at three pm together. They only think
that that's a good idea at three am after a
(32:59):
big night out and they're like, we're going to rail someone.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Like yeah, because then the postcome clarity would be pretty
hard to deal at five o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But see that's a big that's a big ship. That's
a bit ship. Is that toxic masculinity?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It is toxic masculinity.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Look just come and you know, book me at three pm.
I've never done it. I actually can't believe that in
this stage of my professional life. But also like my
personal life. No, it's never come up. I've never even
been close. Like, it's never I've never never been close. Monday.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, I mean, that's a great way to end the podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I could just go to rabbit hole and go.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
To rabbit hole three.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Three guys per girl. I can just do it like.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That, guys a girl. You'll have too many with extras Jesus.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
On next week's episode of Girlfriend for Hire, everybody's on
a summer break. We're on holidays, so we're going to
do something a little bit fun. We're going to do
some would you others. They're a bit cheeky and they're
a little bit naughty. So we'll talk to you then bye.
M h m
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Hm h m hmm.
Appoche production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey guys, did you want to come and see me live?
Without spending eight hundred dollars for the hour? You can
come and see my live show at the Adelaide Fringe Festival. Whoa,
I feel like it needs a round of applause. I
am doing six shows from the twenty fifth of February
(00:31):
until the second of March. Holy Molly, this is going
to be a wild ride. It is called Culli Electric
in my Box. Look, we're not getting into my actual box,
but we will be unpacking my dms in a hilarious
live show and I'm going to be dragging my producer
Shad along with me for the ride.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, it's exciting.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
So link you'll be in the show notes or they
can just hit you up on your socials, Kali, And
if you want to see my show How I Almost
Killed a Guy that'll be on at the Fringe Festival
as well, just hit us up for the tickets.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Are going to be okay, I'm going to need like
eighty tequila shots before I do it, But anyway, see
you there. Girlfriend for Hire with Gollie Electric. This is
not a how to guide for people wanting to get
into the industry. I don't want people to think that
they're going to necessarily learn something here. It's more just
(01:27):
a fun and interesting take on the industry, but also
just coming from my point of view. I'm sitting down
with my producer getting down to the nitty gritty of
the sex worker industry. Are you needing to add a
bit of spice to your relationship? Does your wife look
bored when you whip it out? Maybe she just needs
(01:48):
an escort to go down on her. Welcome to season
three of Girlfriend for Hire.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yay, here you go. Who would have thought, Hey, here
we go.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
How you've been shouted? It's been so long since we've
done one of.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The I've been good. I've been good.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
My life has been far more tame without hearing these stories.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yes, what's happened?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I go back to my normal life and it seems
so boring and dull.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Oh lies, I don't believe that for one minute. So
I had a really interesting I woke up to a
really interesting email this morning. Okay from a company that
is offering to turn my lady bits into a flashlight mold.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Get fucked really true. That's cool, but gross, but cool.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
For everybody who wants are fully ripped vagina in their house.
How amazing is it?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, well, did you tell them how jacked yours is,
because you have said that on the podcast of Fair Future.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, it's fully ripped, would you?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Okay, I don't know, this is a I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
This kind of like is a little bit tilating for me.
This is a bit of fun. Okay. So I always
wondered like, how hell, I don't know, I look at
the inside of flashlights or if I'm sexpot or whatever,
and I look at them and they all just look like,
I don't know, ribbed weird alien concoctions.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, I mean I can't say I ever used one,
but they I used to work in hospital for many years,
and you know, like the glass cleaner, how you know
with the Brussels, Well, I just thought they just look likedicularly.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It kind of reminds me of like, I don't know,
maybe predator's mouth, Like when predator's mouth opens.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's all just like that's pretty graphic.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, that's kind of what I feel like it is.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Or I'm going to Japan soon and they have these
in Australias or the the the umbrella dryers. Have you
ever seen those when you walk in on it and
you put it in and it's like a weird little
sleeve sock.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, okay, the umbrella. I feel that that seems Maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Try putting your penis in there and see what.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I'll be invited back to the shops.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So okay. So what they do is because I've wondered, like,
how the hell, like, how can you replicate in there?
You know, I can't. I don't even know what it's like.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, I wonder it's obviously the front mound, like they're
just going to put some plastery putty or whatever and
get a mold of your well.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Okay, so they do send out a kit to my
house for me to make a mold of my bits. Right,
surely it's like not a mold that I put inside
myself because that feels unsafe.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No, it would be the outside.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
They handle the inside situation, because the insider the all
mechanical whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I'd imagine, you know what I mean, just out of
the front bang.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It'd be pretty like if you've seen the pictures of
the is it the goma or no, what is it
mona in all of Vagina?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yes, I went there recently.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Any similar up there?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yes, y is that me? Did I do this?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So so really interesting. I think I'm going.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, what would be the what's the idea then, so
that like you're essentially leasing your pussy.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, I mean you can't do that already.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well fair, fair for all the people who can't get
to it, for all the people not in capital cities
around Austraia. Well, I think it. They make it and
I sell it. It's just a it's a product. It's
a product on offered to me that that they can sell.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So so is that a lot like is that like
a you'll get a percentage of the like royalties?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Also wow, would you worry that it would take like
some business away?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I was kind of brainstorming in the car, like do
I do the whole You know, if you get the product,
well then maybe I offer a special online only fans
package where you know, you can use the product at
the same time as you know, having a live video
call with me or something that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Give it to me like scan the QR corde QR
code and then it's immediately links to you live. Oh god,
that's kind of like would you ever get into like
the VR because there's like VR.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Porn and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yes, that's where you probably incorporate your It's really like
a horny version of that Ready Player one movie.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It is look, we're already there, like you can already.
There's so much porn that you can watch on all
the websites that is VR based, and so when you
watch it without a headset. I actually did that the
other day with some clients. We watched some VR porn
really and whoa, it's very close up, like it's look.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You put the headset on.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
No we didn't. We didn't have the headset, but we
were just watching the porn of like VR porn and
it's yeah, it's you can imagine with a headset it
would be insane, like there would be so much booty
in vagina in your face. Like it was actually quite confronting.
I was like, wow, I could not film this. Imagine
like a film that was like she's got a camera
(07:07):
like right here on.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Like the three D cameras.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, look that's probably not for me.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
But so we could see on the shelves soon the
Carli electric the emphasis on the electric.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Maybe it's powered, yeah, Carlie solo power.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So oh man, that's kind of wild.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
If you're yeah, then it's like out there, like you
talk about getting your photo.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, now it's like it's a sculpture.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Really got bits out there. Look, could be something fun
to show the great grandkids one day in my day.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Come on, look at your grandma's.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Put brought out one of these again?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well it is episode It is season three, Carlie. And
what a fit that we go season three and we're
talking about three plus Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Be swingers one of my favorite topics. See. A year ago,
I hadn't yet done any swinging whatsoever. And this year
has been the year of the swing for me. Okay,
I've done all the swingers, all the parties, so many events.
Couples done it in work life, I've done it in
(08:31):
my private life. It's just been a whole year of
it and I am totally here for it.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So can you explain, like, what exactly is a swinger
and why is that different or isn't it different to
being in a polyamorous or open relationship? Like I feel
like they're all spoken about as if it's this spectrum
of allowing other people into your sex life or relationship.
Where where do these all sit?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I think the term swinging and swingers is just something
that has been around for like decades now. I remember, oh,
this is so much info. I remember my mum kind
of alluding to me one day that potentially my grandparents
were swingers in the seventies. I would pretty like, well
(09:19):
to do and yeah, literal keys in bowls, like that's
how it That's how it was, and it's just kind
of nice to know that it's just being passed down
to my family. Thanks, thanks, thanks guys. So, I think
the term swingers is just a really broad umbrella for
(09:40):
what we now have better terms for, you know, like
the ethical non monogamy and you know, pollin and things
like that. But I think back in the day it
was just ah, you're a swinger, and that was kind
of that was kind of it. So I like to
say swinging even though those the term now really isn't used.
It's more used in a more fun kind of liberal way,
(10:03):
not in a very peace PC way. Recently, I had
something that I haven't done before, and I'm usually I
do not blow the lines of business and pleasure, even
though they are kind of together.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But I don't have a pleasure business.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, yeah, my work is my work, and I tried
to be very professional. I keep my work very work like,
and I don't really blend the two. I don't bring
a lot of my personal life or all my own
pleasure time into my work, as I like to keep
them separate. Yes, however, I kind of threw that all
(10:45):
out the window. Recently, I had a couple's booking and
I picked them up afterwards.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Wait, so okay, well so the booking ended.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So the booking ended, and we were all just looking
at each other being like, well, we all just okay,
there's no alarm. I have to look at the time.
I'm trying to be mindful of the time, so, you know,
because if people want to extend, well I need to
(11:17):
get paid, you know. Anyway, the booking was over, they
were getting dressed, and I was kind of like, ah,
well that was fun. Should we go for a drink?
And they were like yeah, And so then we went
out for some drinks and bonded more, kind of reminiscing
about all the very naughty things that we all just
(11:38):
did to each other, and then organized to see them
again with somebody that I'm seeing, and so we all
caught up unpaid, paid yeah, so we all called up
a week ago.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You've got a horror story version of this.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I can't believe that you've now, like in the horror
stories we've covered this where it was awkward and you
hated it.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, you've revisited people.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I think it was the people won't right, but anyway,
finding the right people. So then, yeah, we all just
went out for drinks. And it was a bit weird
for me, just reminding myself that I wasn't working and
being like, okay, no, I'm not watching the time. I
don't have to be making sure that their every needs
(12:25):
are met and that I'm you know, providing them a service.
I got that. I got to relax a bit. So
I got to bring someone along with me, and they came,
and I think that they were even more nervous than
them paying me. I think they felt more comfortable paying me,
to be honest. But it was good fun. Went back
to my hotel.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And where you were already.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, yes, yes, and yeah, so I never do that.
I never blow the lines. And so I've somehow turned
clients into non.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Paying and let's not get any ideas those clients are listening, right,
I know, I know, girl, needs to pay some bills.
Like I'm excited, but I'm also kind of disappointed in
your lack of professionalism.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I feel like, yeah, it was actually it was actually
so good. I can't help but feel that the person
that I brought along felt a bit uncomfortable, and then
also the lovely female and the other partnership felt a
bit uncomfortable with it all.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
But oh really, I think, ah see, this is where
it's so hard, Like we're all kind of exploring this
territory for the first time.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Like I'm not you know, I'm not a pro when
it comes to my private life in anything swingers, I'm
finding my way and I'm I'm just feeling what works
and what's good and what doesn't work. And you just
kind of like mumble your way through it because you
literally have no idea and you're bringing other people into
your space and into your realm, and you know, it's
(14:02):
it is quite daunting, and so I think the nerves
just got the better of some of them because you
and you know, they kept on apologizing saying, we just
have no idea. This is our first time doing this,
like it was our first time with you paying for it,
and now we're doing this and this is just our
(14:23):
first time and we're finding our feet.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Can I ask with the couple when you did the
couple booking, is it it's obviously male steered or.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Was it? Like they both were like.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think it's very obvious when it is male steered,
And it does make me feel a little bit more
uncomfortable because I wonder if you know, somebody's been pressured
into it. However, majority of the time it's either female
driven or you can tell it's a very easing no, no, no,
she's reached out to she wants to make it happen,
(14:59):
so she's reached out to make the booking or she
you know, has a very active part in the booking process.
And you can I can tell, I can tell as
soon as they're in the room talking to me what
the where the power lies and what the dynamic is
of the relationship. And yeah, there are times where I'm
kind of a bit worried as to if the female
wants to be there, but that it's quite rare generally
(15:22):
the woman is just like, yes, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah right, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
But and like we said, I think we've covered this before,
but like the idea of getting a professional adoor.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It is kind of a little less.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I would imagine the safety net for the couple is
that you're never going to see this person again. Correct,
and that's it. But this is probably where the awkwardness
comes into it. When you're now in your experience. Recently
you went and broke that.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, vow yes, And so it is a very controlled environment.
You're controlling the environment when you are getting you're paying
somebody to come and join your relationship. You have full
control over that. And yeah, it does shift. I find
I find it so easy. I'm not nervous when I
see a couple when they've paid me, I jump straight in.
(16:14):
I'm so confident. But when it's in my personal life,
I am a nervous wreck and I can't get a
hold of it. And I think, I don't know, it's
just it's something that I can't work out. But I
get so nervous.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
There was.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I actually went to a swingers a black tie masquerade
swingers event in I was actually uh Northern New South Wales,
but it's a Brisbane based swing. I don't know. I
just want to keep on calling them swingers. But anyway,
so they're called Shoeshoe and it's c h oh you
(16:56):
just for everybody playing at home. They were fantastic. There's
an element of going to swingers parties where I think
everybody's going to be gross and nasty and old, and
it's going to be full of old, gross city men
who are trying to like grab at me, and you
know it's going to be They're all going to be
in the corner whanking and I don't know. That kind
(17:18):
of has always filled my mind and has stopped me
from going to any events, even though I've toyed with
the idea. Sometime I was like maybe eighteen, I went
to this Shoeshoe event. Everyone there was so insanely attractive.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Okay it was.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Their bartenders were attractive. Everybody who came and put on shows.
They had like people. They had a stripper doing a
show and she was absolutely banging. They had full Shabari ropes.
Shabari is where it's the oh god, I'm going to
(18:00):
butcher this, it's the rope play. So they were tired.
They Christmas Ham, yes, only sexier's pretty sexy, you know
what I mean, getting up smashing that man.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'm smashing that ham. Days later, I just.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Look like a sexy Christmas Ham when I've got those
like full body stocking suits on, where like I think
it's gonna look hot, but I just look like a
Christmas Ham anywhere it's not hot.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
So that that's like that sounds like they're set up.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Is like you know that old movie like Eyes Why
I Shut type situation, the same vibe.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
But it's nice to know that there are those places
that you can go to, because there are other places
that I've been to where I have been so nervous
but also been like I don't want to interact with
anyone or do anything because I'm not attracted to anybody
here and I'm not into this.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
They have very like they have like strict.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I used to live with a couple who delved into
that realm for a bit, and I used to pick
them up from the club afterwards because I'd do like
late late night radio at the time, sure, and I'd
like message me and be like late night pick him
up from the club or the the nine am pick
up from some fancy house in Bondi because they've all
(19:19):
kicked on. But they like they said, there's a lot
of kind of rules and stuff and then when they
first went, it was like they were just having sex
with each other in the public space. And my mate
said that, you know, he'd be, you know, having sex
with his girlfriend and then someone would come over and
(19:40):
tap him on the shoulder and kind of nonverbally be
like and then he would go.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And they and they just walk away.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
That's is exactly what my experience has been like, I
think one of the things is And so a lot
of the clients who book me I talked to about
how I've just kind of dipped my toes into the
swinging world by going to these events, and they're always
so curious because obviously they've thought the same way, but
they've never gone to jump right into It can be
(20:15):
so daunting, but I think to realize that you don't
have to get involved, so you can just go and
watch and see what the vibe is. Maybe even if
you're going alone or if you're going with a partner,
have no expectations whatsoever. Don't think that you're going to
go there and meet hotties and bang people all night.
(20:37):
Go there with I'm just going to watch, I'm going
to learn, I'm going to see if this feels good
or right for me and see if I would possibly
want to get involved. For me at these swingers parties,
I am at the level where I just have sex
with one person, and I'm not yet at a level
where I can move around and try to sample everyone
(21:02):
in the room.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Same person, like, same person.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You arrive with, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah you said, like,
or if you go alone, I would imagine that's not allowed.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So these places do have vetting processes. When they do
announce a date for their event, they'll tell you when
you know they're taking applications or you can buy tickets.
What will happen is, especially if you're a single male
is of course for these events, they have high numbers
of men trying to come to these events. So even
(21:31):
what Shoesho does is they'll have say ten male tickets available,
ten female tickets available, and then ten couples tickets available,
so joint tickets for couples. So they will vet everyone.
You have to have a zoom call with them. They
ask you questions and you you know, they want to
find out about you, what you're like as a person,
(21:56):
find out your experience in the scene. You don't have
to have experience, but just to find out where you're
at see your mentality around everything. Obviously they don't want
you know, drop kick eighty year old men just coming
to perv on young girls. You know, like they want
to fill the room with like minded individuals who are
(22:16):
all kind of on the same page with everything. And yeah,
they did a really good job, really good job. I
walked in and I was like, everyone here is so hot.
It was insane. But yeah, so you get vetted. But
even you know, I've been to nightclub parties. So there
are nightclub events ah so all around the country.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So this masquarade one's like top that's top.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
That's top tier.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
That is top tier, and then down that would be
nightclub no.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
So I would say that there are three different levels
of swingers events. The kind of like the easiest and
a real fun way to get into it without you know,
any expectation or you know, worrying that you're just going
to see all the like five hundred penises or something.
Is a lot of places do just nightclub events. One
(23:08):
of the longest running events in Australia is called per
and they're all around there. They'll there's you know, Melbourne,
they go to Adelaide, they go to Sydney there all around,
and they do these big events where they'll theme the event,
so say Saints and sinners, and so you have to
dress up. It's a nightclub event, so you know, you
(23:31):
buy a ticket, it'll be like fifty bucks or something,
and you go along to the event and it's a
just a night like you know, it's just any nightclub night.
It's closed off to their event, so everybody dresses a
lot more risk. Guay, there's a lot of skin being shown,
but everybody's on the dance floor and drinking and there's
DJs and you know, everybody's making out with each other
(23:52):
and that's kind of it.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, so there's that kind of level. Then the next
level is there'll be events where you can go, say,
everybody turns up to a bar. There'll be like thirty
people at a bar and you'll sit around and you
drink and you mingle, and then after the bar you
have the option to go back to a hotel to play.
(24:15):
If you've decided that you've met somebody that you like
or you know, you you know, want to take it
that step further, you can go and do that. Then yeah,
the Crema de la Creme is the big event where
you go to Airbnb or you go to you know,
someone's big mansion or something.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
The mansion one still happen like the ones in the movies,
like the or not even the mansion, like.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
The local neighborhood and everyone's just getting into it. Yes, Underdog.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So I've been to one in Adelaide. I went Adelaide,
I went to the rabbit Hole. People were not sleeping.
I went to the rabbit Hole in Adelaide and it's
a massive mansion that they've converted into this incredible space.
There's like huge hot tub, like twenty person hot tub,
(25:02):
there's multiple rooms, there's like a sh drip, a pole,
it's just it's pretty. It's pretty incredible. And then the
Shushu one that I went to was at this incredible Airbnb.
They get the most amazing like mansions and like fully
deck it out and there's hundreds of candles everywhere and
it's all very sexy, very sexy.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I'm just looking at the rabbit Hole website and the
first event that they have up here is at the
time of this recording, it's this weekend and it says
my ultimate fantasy gang bag gang.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Bang event group gang bang event.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yes, two, I am at the rabbit Hole in Adelaide
play party of three men for every lady. God, you
wouldn't know what to do with yourself. Girls night for
women only?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Would you ever because you participate in these three relationships?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Would you ever just do all women?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah? I would. I would just just to see what
it was like.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Who's easier to pleasure?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I do like pleasuring?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Well?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
See, And I know I've mentioned this before. Is it
because that I see men full time that I think
the novelty at the moment for me seeing women is
women are just something different. So it's just adding a
little bit of spice back into my work. Sure, or
maybe I just really love going down on women. I
(26:35):
don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, but okay, can you tell it a woman's faking it?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's bloody?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Okay, Okay, but can I say that all? Yeah? I
have because I'm at a point now where I've I'm
with women every week now right for work, and I
feel like I'm at a point where I know what
I'm doing and I'm kind of like I got this
(27:05):
and I do my thing, and women are losing their
minds and I'm kind of like I feel like this
isn't faked, but who knows, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You get a kind of lingus expert in.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
It also makes me realize that you have no fucking
idea when somebody's taking it, because I really have no
fucking idea. But I also believe in my ability and
think that I'm good. But then I feel like that's
every dude.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
All, no, you're a blog?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh no, A.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Who do you think are the most common people you see?
They're like it is it kind of like young people
that are really into experience because it's like we're in
such a sex positive mindset now that I feel like
I know like a handful of couples that are like
in or have been in that kind of situation.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, So everybody at these swingers like events that I've
been to, the ones that are more open where it's okay,
say like a nightclub event, definitely younger crowd. They're just
excited to not wear many clothes. I think, can go
out and dance and get floating kiss everyone that is
(28:20):
kind of their level. I feel like that's just entry level.
So they're kind of in their twenties.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah, Like like how every girls are bisexual in the
Yeah you've kissed a couple of years, Yeah, come back
to me later.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Did you have a bisexual era when.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Kiss?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
So I then think that the people that go to
the full sex events are late twenties, even though there
are younger people there, but primarily late twenties. To the
I'd say like forty forty five year old crowd. Any
(28:59):
you don't really get any older than that, and you
don't really get any younger. It's that I think it's
when people are comfortable with their bodies, comfortable with themselves,
still have lots of energy and ready to explore. I
also feel like so the people that I see all
my clients and this is okay. So I'm seeing couples
now weekly if not daily when I'm on tour. Wow, yeah,
(29:24):
it's it's just absolutely taken off because I'm so vocal
about it. I think on the podcast and also online
now I'm getting all of the couples. So that's great.
Let's keep going love it anyway if.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You can get a couple on the podcast one day. Yes,
I love to pick ask.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Some questions because I am full of questions. I always
ask questions whenever you know, I'm always asking questions of couples,
just to you know, find out what makes it if you.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Like that, if you are a couple that has booked
and you're interested.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So I have found that primarily most of the couples
that do book me are people who have been divorced.
So they've been divorced and now in their thirties or forties,
they've met their partner that they've been with for some time,
a couple of years or whatever, and they're way more
(30:21):
open in that relationship. I don't get that's a lie.
I do have one couple that's been together. I was
fucking them on their thirtieth wedding anniversary.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Or something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
No, no, no, anyway. So but generally it's not people
who've been together forever. People who have been together forever.
I think that's you know, there's that air of, well,
this is the boundaries inside of our relationship, and we've
never stepped outside, and we've never explored. I am booked
primarily by people who have had that, they've had the
(30:56):
very serious monogamous relationship, they've come out of that knowing
that that's not for them. Then they're with somebody more
open minded because they know that they're more open minded,
they meet a similar type of person, and so then
that's when I get booked. I'm seeing people who have
been divorced, and it's pretty rare to have anyone who
(31:17):
who has been with the one person forever or they've
been in a really, really, really long term relationship.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I guess that.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Makes sense with the divorce thing, hey, because it's like
the amount of people that I know, I'm geting that
agent with a lot of my friends are like split
up with their first partners and stuff, and they're having
this like resurgence of sexuality.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
And find themselves because the world's kind of changed as well.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
I guess, so you re enter a dating world where
it's like, yeah, you can hook up with a lot
of people.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
You can casually, like I got made a single.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Now that's casually, you know, out there being more casual
than I mean, they were always kind of enjoyed themselves,
but probably a bit more engaged in the dating scene
than they were previously.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I love it perfect, I think it's fantastic. I'm all
for it. I'm all for it. I've had those really
serious monogamous relationships and was just soul bored out of
my absolute brain and.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Okay I'm in and not let's not okay, it's really fancy.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I mean yours is probably not boring. It's probably really great.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What's that for you?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
For me and my brain? Not great? Yeah, I need spice?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Had two d's yet, avenue. Would you take that as
a booking? Yes, really twos?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
But I only get those inquiries are like two am,
hey me and my mate, and it's just like, bro,
did it dick even work anymore? I'm not sure? Okay? Cool? Sweet?
Like yeah, no, if they booked me at a you
know they but see, guys don't want to guys don't
want to fuck at three pm together. They only think
that that's a good idea at three am after a
(32:59):
big night out and they're like, we're going to rail someone.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Like yeah, because then the postcome clarity would be pretty
hard to deal at five o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But see that's a big that's a big ship. That's
a bit ship. Is that toxic masculinity?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It is toxic masculinity.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Look just come and you know, book me at three pm.
I've never done it. I actually can't believe that in
this stage of my professional life. But also like my
personal life. No, it's never come up. I've never even
been close. Like, it's never I've never never been close. Monday.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, I mean, that's a great way to end the podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I could just go to rabbit hole and go.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
To rabbit hole three.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Three guys per girl. I can just do it like.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That, guys a girl. You'll have too many with extras Jesus.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
On next week's episode of Girlfriend for Hire, everybody's on
a summer break. We're on holidays, so we're going to
do something a little bit fun. We're going to do
some would you others. They're a bit cheeky and they're
a little bit naughty. So we'll talk to you then bye.
M h m
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Hm h m hmm.
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