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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, This is good morning. Beat all right, crank
it up here, chants going.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
So I have to tell you, Beth, I reached out
to this guy, knowing that the Browns are coming to
Bank of America Stadium, my old friend who used to
do a radio show at wfn Z, in my opinion,
one of the best ever to do it on fn Z,
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And I said, Hey, would you be interested in coming
on the show with us on Friday before the game.
And I'm going to read you his response verbatim. It says,
hot Dog Juice accepts this gracious invitation, and so we
go to the WBT hotline and welcome the one and
only good friend of the show. Even though we don't
see him every day anymore, we still I love the guy,
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Nick Wilson from ninety two to three, the fan in Cleveland.
How you doing, my friend?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It is an honor to be back.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Hot Dog Juice never misses an opportunity to talk to
his friends in Charlotte and to bring the juice and
set the juice loose upon the queens.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Now real quick. For people who may be new to
the show, Beth explained the Hot Dog Juice thing.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Oh wow, Well, when Nick was when Nick was here.
I used to do a segment on Nick's show. What
did we call it? We called it the Bit with
Beth yep, And I don't even remember how did we
get to hot dog juice. I think that was a beer.
It was a beer that tasted like hot dog water
or something, and I mispronounced the festival and it just
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became a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I believe it was.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
At one point Beth used the term hot dog juice.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And I said, you know, that was my nickname in
high school.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
And she, very very concern said what And I said, no, Beth,
I'm not being serious.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Now it is my nickname.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Now it is. It has stuck, and everyone is now
calling you hot dog juice. I used hot dogs juice
instead of hot dog water. That's what it was.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So T shirt sales in and of themselves have paid
for my house.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Oh good, good, complain.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
She's the gift that keeps on giving even when you're
not in the market anymore. There, Nick, but you're there
in Cleveland. We've got a big game. Now, look this.
We're interested here because obviously we're the Carolina Panthers fan base,
and you're interested in it. But I think is it
safe to say that here on the second night or
I guess with the Hall of Fame game the third
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night of NFL preseason action, this is probably from a
national perspective, the most intriguing game on the schedule because
you have the debut of Shador Sanders tonight. He's starting.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
The whole rhythm to getting said about a preseason game
is pretty much the same every year, which is you
lead up to the Hall of Fame game and go
football back and then like three plays into the game
you're like, oh, no one's playing. I guess I'll have
another hot dog. This is different, Like, so you know,
I think it should be noted Shador was not going
to be starting this game. He has been throwing to
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fourth stringers and guys from the equipment team and maybe
Chuck from accounting.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
He's really not been given a real.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Chance to win this quarterback battle. But Kenny Pickett got
hurt a week ago with a hamstring. Earlier this week,
Dylan Gabriel, who was getting a real chance to take
the starting job, he pulled up with a bad hamstring.
So they're not playing tonight, and that afforded Shador this opportunity,
and I will say, like, I think Carolina fans are
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going to notice some of the hype that comes with this.
And it reminds me of when Cam came into the NFL,
Cam Newton, because there is like, he's not just a quarterback.
And obviously Cam was the number one pick in the
NFL draft. You know, Cam had been the you know,
Heisman winner, all this sorry, National Championship winner, all this
kind of stop with shador. I mean, he really is
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a social media star, influencer, quarterback and so and so
it's it's just this wild Oh and he's also a
fifth round pick. So he wasn't going to start this game.
Now he's going to start this game, and the reaction
to it is probably going to fuel my show for
the next three weeks before the regular season starts.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So if he comes out of the gate tonight, and
like you said, he hasn't been practicing with the first team,
but if he comes out tonight and lights it on fire,
then is there a quarterback controversy or is this his
job to win? I mean, we obviously know what happens
if he doesn't do well tonight, but what could happen here?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I think if any of the other quarterbacks went out
tonight and had actually played and had a great game,
I think it would have catapulted them into the front
of the quarterback race. I think I I think Shador
is battling with this coaching staff some perceptional things going
back to the pre draft process. Remember, Shador really upset
a lot of people in the NFL by trying to
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push his way to teams that he thought he'd fit better.
And it really upset a lot of people in the NFL,
including the Browns, and so, you know, unless you can
do that, if you're like a bona fide top three pick,
if you're a second round pick talent, it's going to
boomerang back on you quick, which is what happened. And
now personally, for me, I think.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
He should if.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
He plays really well tonight, I need to see him
get all the second team reps this next week because
their other quarterbacks are Joe Blaco, who's older than I
am and maybe slower than I am.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm talking about fast. I'm not talking about the physical speed.
I'm not talking about mentally nobody.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Okay, but Kenny Pickett, who is just booty cheeks. It
is just awful, unplayable in Pittsburgh. And Dylan Gabriel, who
I shouldn't know an unfairness.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You guys can attest to this.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I'm six foot four, so I am a firm six
foot four. I'm not faking being six foot four. Well,
Dylan Gabriel's allegedly five foot eight, and he did not
come above my moves.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Like he is. He is a trainy little fellow.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
So it's not like it's a murderer's row of guys
that Chaudor is going up against. But yet I think
that perceptional issues within the Browns organization is going to
hold him back a little bit longer.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That I missed this guy.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I know, man, just all of this right now. I've
just been missing you so so much. For Shador tonight.
If he has this really great moment, is this his
chance at like a a Kurt Warner story, Because didn't
Kurt just get to go in because somebody else got
injured and he just suddenly got to play when he
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was kind of the underdog quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Did that happen to Aaron Rodgers too, Tom Brady?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well, Brady, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Mean it so the I love the Kurt Warner thing,
because you know, Kurt was undrafted. Ye, hurt was like
stocking a grocery screw in the offseason and like North
Dakota or Minnesota or something like that. And then Trent
Green got hurt by Rodney Harrison hit him in the knee,
and Trent Green was supposed to be the starter there,
and then you know, Kurt kind of took over.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I think that circumstance is what gets shaudor the chance,
but I think.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
It has to come in the regular season.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I think it's so easy to discount what happens in
a preseason game if you're a coach, because you're playing
against some of the Panthers ones, but not all the
Panthers ones, because oh, the Panthers ones are only going
to play for a series or two and then, so
it's really easy for coaches to discount something like this.
Whereas if Shadoor works his way up to being less
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to the backup quarterback by the time the regular season happens, yeah,
I think his best chance to play is going to
be the quarterback in front of him gets hurt because
I just think, you know, let him Listen, I've been
covering the NFL for twenty years. And the thing that
I know is that coaches are just like you and me.
We have our biases, We have people we like to
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work with, we have people that we have to get
along with and kind of make it through the day.
And I know each of you are probably thinking about
the same people I'm thinking about that still work there,
Jess kidding. We love everybody, but no, so I think
I don't you know, the head coach of the Cleveland Browns,
I don't think wanted to draft Shador Sanders, And a
lot of it is the social media stuff, like the
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social media superstar stop and so even though he fits
the system as well as anyone they have, I think
the only way Shadore is going to change Kevin Stefanski,
the Browns head coach's mind, if he gets this is
if he gets it on the field in the regular
season and does something like that. If it sounds unfair,
I know it does feel at the unfair at times,
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but the reality is this is just this is how
the NFL works. Like, if you're not one of the
anointed ones, you have to work one hundred and twenty
percent harder than the guy that you know might be
the anointed one and he'll he has to work.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Ninety is hard.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
We're talking to our good buddy, old friend Nick Wilson,
who now is on ninety two three the fan in Cleveland,
once upon a time worked ATU WFNZ down the hall
here in this building. Now we've talked about the team
where you are. Let's talk about our team here in Charlotte.
And you know, you you did some shows on wfn
Z when the Panthers. You've seen some Panthers bad teams
over the years. You've also seen years where the fan
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base was sort of getting excited and then they realized
coming out of the gate just it just didn't it
didn't materialize. We're kind of at the point again where
because of the way Bryce Young ended last year and
the team ended on an upswing, there's a lot of
buzz about how good this Carolina Panthers team can be
with Bryce seemingly you know, uprighted, and we've you know,
picked up some some some players in the draft and
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in free agency. Do you think that the hype is
legit for this Panthers team?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
All Right, So that's a trick question, but I will
I will elaborate on why.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I think I I think the second a.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Team starts to show promise, we jump several levels of expectation.
So I think if Panthers fans are expecting the playoffs,
I think you're setting the bar too high. I think
it's possible. I think the NFC is a lot more
wide open than the AFC, So you know, I think
there could be some circumstances here that play in your favor.
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But there's a couple of things. One, that offensive line
needs to be the best unit on this team. Bryce
Young being a smaller quarterback, I think they finally got
some weapons around him. I think that gives him a chance.
But that O line.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Has to be really, really good this year. And then
you go to the defense.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I was counting this because I was surprised, you know,
I like Dan Morgan drafts the Panthers gms that I
was going through the defense and I'm like, like, eight
of your eleven starters were drafted by somebody else, and
they're not like big ticket free agents. It's just guys
that fit your defensive coordinator scheme. That probably isn't the
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It probably isn't like the recipe for being a great defense.
So the offense is gonna have to carry you, and
that's that makes the O line even more important. But
what I will say is if you set your bar
at about seven or eight wins, I think that's incredibly doable.
I think that's like the median of what to expect,
because I do think. I think I think Ted McMillan
and Bryce seem to have something really cool and that's
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going to take make it easier for all the ancillary
weapons to just show up because now they're not trying
to be the wide receiver one. I think he got
one of those. And by the way, I also think
your running game is going to be really good as well.
So yeah, I mean, like, I'm excited to see what
the Panthers do. I think the Browns are three to
five win team. I think the Panthers are anywhere from
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a six to maybe nine win team, probably closer to
like a maybe a seven or eight win team. I'm
really excited to see what they do there because I've
heard a lot of great things about Dave Dannallis and
about Dan Morgan.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So you're a hot dog, glasses half full guy.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
People have been saying that about me as a matter of fact,
that's one of our shirts at at Nick Wilson does
dot com is of a shot glass half full with
hot dog juice, and it says half full. It's a
little on the nose, but I think I think you'd
like it. Body, do make it in this medium, he remembers.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
He remembered, Hey, look before I let you go.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Oh, man, I wish I could just Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I have one more guy that wants to say hello
to you. Boomer Man, I'm just seeing you in here
and you hear the building.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
My man, how you doing, Nick Boomer von Cannon? Oh
my god, do I miss you? Buddy?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Man. I'll tell you what I heard.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
You called Kenny Picket. What cheeks?
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Booty cheeks?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
He said, that's our guy here. That's right on cue.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I am not a proctologist, but I can tell you
that Kenny Picket is booty chip.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
All right, man, t shirt of the Macon right there.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
I'll tell you I see it right there.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Alright, miss you, my man.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
We'll really miss you.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Good to hear you.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I miss you you buddy, all right, Nick Wilson, have
a great show today. Man, I love hearing your voice.
We'll talk again.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
So so good to hear
Speaker 3 (13:14):
You, Nick guys, you, says B.