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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious
people to solve them. You cannot be serious. He's talking
eleven ten and ninety nine three w BT Beth Troutman,
She's looking out for you. You always know when you listen
to both. This is Good Morning Beatty with Bo Thompson
and Beth Troutman.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Luck at you ritten enough off?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Good morning.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Something.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Wait, think.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
What you got it?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
You pays?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Do take your time.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Sammy timb looks forwards.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
Okay, I don't dislike she.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean I just poured David Lee, Well that's oh
you ate one too.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
Did you wake up to the lyrics of the long
Building up?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Anyway?

Speaker 4 (02:23):
It was I just woke up.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
That was it?

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, as well over a minute of a build?

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah, that was a slow build. I only know the
chorus of this song and no telling how the chorus
was in my brain this morning. I'm not mad at it.

Speaker 7 (02:46):
Bo.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
When I came face to face this morning as we
were walking and we were we were both walking down
the hall.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
Was it a duel?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
It was a joust. We ride horses. We meet again.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
What are you doing here?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, it's not usual that I'm going in the opposite
direction of you. But I was going to talk to Mark.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Yeah, it was it well lit. Oh you've been inside,
But we.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Were inside, we were in the hallway. And but like
curtseyed and then I said, you're going to be really
happy because I woke up to Van.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
It's not a curtsey. I do this every once in
a while. You've all seen this in one where I
go like that. I know Bernie has seen this.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
It's a bow. It's a bow, so like it's not
a curtsy's out of respect.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
A curtsy like showing respects if he's waving his feather
to Captain Yes, let me adjust.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
My kilt, throwing down his cape over that puddle of mud.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, exactly did you throw it a good Morrow? I
should have, you should have.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Actually I distracted him because I started talking about Van
Hagar Ah.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Van Hagar every once in a while. Beth gets one
every once. So this is this year's Hagar. It goes
right next to Meltormeat.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yesterday. Wow, what a what a one and eighty degree turn.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Of musical events. Can it just stop raining?

Speaker 8 (04:11):
You know?

Speaker 4 (04:11):
I was thinking that this morning as I was standing
in my backyard with the dogs in the rain, get
in the rain, just getting soaked, trying to get them
to pooh, you know, well what poop?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
And I have something going on at my house that
I don't know if this is just me, but every
once in a while, you know, when you host a
radio show, you had this ability every once in a
while to say, is it just me? I've lived in
the house I live in right now for thirteen years,
and for some reason, over the last week there's been
this onslaught of caterpillars falling from a tree in my yard.
And it's one tree, because it's one sort of like

(04:46):
a small area. But I've never seen this happen before.
And you made me think of it when you said, well,
when you said pooh, because the caterpillars are leaving behind something.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I had a lot of sticky pooh.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, And I've never seen this at my I mean,
do you call it? But am I the only one?
Like you? Sort of sound like you might Eve were
gonna say me too.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
There there was a caterpillar room my garage this morning
one But I don't know if they're falling out.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
Of the tree, but I got them on my all
the way from Potswold.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I kid, you not. I have an army of them,
and yesterday I had to get out the pressure washers.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Are they the pretty ones though? Are they the pretty
one now? All hurry and blue and yellow?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
They're dead.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
They're black and yellow.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
Killed all the butterflies, all the black and yellow ones.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
I got the little one this morning. I got them
on my little finger and I took him out into
the yard and put him on the tree.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
There are so many of them. There are so many
of them that we actually mold step on them and
it leaves like squashed ones, and then you track the
stuff inside. I mean, it's like I said, I had
to get the pressure washer out yesterday.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
What if somebody released these into the tree.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, I'm wondering, That's why I said. You know, I
don't know if someone just did this to me or
whether people are listening going, oh god, I have that too.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Do you upset somebody?

Speaker 7 (05:55):
Bow?

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's what I'm trying to figure out. But you know
what I mean, Like you, you live in a place
for a long time, and I mean it's right underneath
our our our back entrance, so I wouldn't I wouldn't
know if this was a yearly thing or even like
every five years. I've never seen this before.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
We just think, I mean, in a couple of weeks,
you're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Butterflies.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I'm going to end the butterfly population in that little
area of my backyard.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Can we talked bugs for like ten more seconds?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
You need to Kelly Poplin?

Speaker 6 (06:24):
Yeah, back to back eight nights like bedtime.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Last night.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Last night was killing the world's biggest palmetto bug. It
was like the size of a turtle inside. Yeah, up
on the top wall where.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
The ceiling is, like all the way at the very top,
like an adult turtle.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Yeah, like yeah, like a sea turtle. And it was
just like it was it was shifting. Like I went
to get a shoe. It had jumped from the top
down to the ground like it knew I was coming,
even though I was just walking over quietly to get
his shoe, and it went behind a picture frame that
was on the ground and I got him. So I
just I won't get into details.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Kind of noise, get that it made like a crunchy noise.
I hate that noise.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
Yeah, like a peanut. And then the day before there
was like it wasn't really big, but it was a
brown spider and out on those spiders. But it didn't
look like the kind you wa get. Pit Pie hit
that with a shoe and a bunch of little babies
jumped out.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, it was like nightmare.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
They were like the size of specs. I'd like, get
all the little babies.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Too, like a rachnophobia.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
It is like John Goodman.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
I'd never killed one that had like little babies jumping
out of it. I felt kind of bad of the
way for the spider community, but I wasn't gonna have
that in my house.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
So so we should have sympathy this morning for the
spider community at Jim's house and the caterpillar community at
my house.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
And we're not even living at our house. I just
go back like at night because they're going our hardwork floor,
because they because they drove you out. I gotta, yeah,
I gotta see what's going on there. But so, yeah,
one of each. It wasn't like a colony of anything.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Fatherless family.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
I think it's all the rain out there, everything's getting
flushed inside.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Gim actually had a gator and their house because of
the spiders.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
I would have for those two things.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Shivers from that store.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
I wasn't expecting that. I thought it was like bits
of Spider. Was like, no, little bit.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I wasn't expecting anybody to tap my army of caterpillar story.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
But you did.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
I don't feel so about you. Did.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
Al Conklin to come, I was like, oh, go bad
all right? If everybody needs an a handle these situations.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yes, at my house he does.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
This is Good Morning Bet with both Thompson and Beth
trout me.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
News Talk eleven ten, a nine to three WBT. But
when death on a Wednesday and on the DOUBBT hotline.
Here she is once a week. We talked to her,
and a lot of people across the country do as well.
You see her on CNBC, The Today Show, Good Morning America,
Fox and Friends. Teresa Payton are cybersecurity expert, founder of

(08:44):
Forderless Solutions. Good morning to you, Good morning.

Speaker 9 (08:49):
It's great to be with you, and it's great to
be in Charlotte, which almost felt like it wasn't going
to happen last night. I was delayed almost three hours.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Oh gosh, Chicago.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well if you like rain, If you like rain, well
to Charlotte.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, a little soupy outside.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
So I have a lot of things to talk to
you about this week, but this is one to begin with.
And you know, we actually from time to time have
been known to use a Reddit list or two on
this show. Yes, we like Reddit. It's a very useful
at times. Reddit is blocking the Internet Archive from AI scraping.
AI scraping. I know you just finished speaking at a

(09:25):
conference where AI came up left and right, and it
really does wherever you go, and understandably so, but what
is AI scraping and and why should we be concerned
with that as it relates to the Internet Archive.

Speaker 9 (09:38):
Sure, well, I mean, so AI scraping. There's spots calling
the Internet all the time, and they were doing it
before we had chat GPT to look for information to
give people results, but also the collect information so just
almost like copy paste, think of, I don't know, automated plagiarism,
so to speak. But the thing about the Internet Archive

(10:00):
is that is the wayback machine. It is the machine
that takes pictures of the Internet and stores it and
preserves it like a copy you sort of a historical record.
And Reddit said though they felt like the archives wayback
machine might have been also grabbing information, not just for
historical purposes. But for training purposes, and so they are

(10:24):
not going to allow the wayback machine to crawl and
post detailed pages, comments and profiles. All they're going to
allow it to do is take a picture of what's
on the reddit dot com home page. So it'll just
be archiving insights, but not all the things that people
said about it. So very interesting move by Reddit.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Well it sounds like it's a privacy move by Reddit,
just trying to protect the privacy of the people who
utilize those chat boards.

Speaker 9 (10:51):
Now you're right, bet, then that could be in it.
They could have had the whole Reddit user baseing. Wait
a minute, this doesn't seem fair. But again I would
tell body posters beware if you put it out in
the digital universe, just assume delete doesn't mean delete unless
it was really important to you, and then it probably
will be lost in some computer crash and the Internet

(11:13):
never forgets.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Well, I know that you said that you were in
Chicago for the last couple of days and AI came up.
But Chicago and the state of Illinois in the news
speaking of AI. Illinois has actually banned AI therapy as
some states begin to scrutinize chat bots. And you sent
US an article about these human AI relationships that are

(11:36):
just no longer science fiction. People are now using AI
in place of person to person contact, including things like
therapy sessions.

Speaker 9 (11:45):
Yeah, and again this is sort of we just don't
really have the regulations around this. So it's one thing
if you're using AI, you have a doctor and they're
recommending we're going to use this program that that we
have trained as a doctor's organization who's going to help
you with therapy so that you can have twenty four

(12:06):
by seven access. It's another thing when you create your
own chat personality and chat boy and then you're conversing
with it, and we're starting to see different articles come out.
You know, there was another there was a man looking
for sort of healthy advice and he removes salt from
his diet and was using some other alternative and he's

(12:26):
actually very sick right now. So we have to be
very careful here because just because it sounds authoritative, friendly, conversational,
like a person that's you know, your best friend always
on demand, doesn't mean that it's healthy and that it's
good for us. And that lack of regulation that we
have in this technology, it's really creating a real problem.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
There was just an article that popped up about AI
making up body parts trying to diagnose. This was a
neurological diagnosis, but actually making up body parts. And it's
kind of along the lines of what you and I
have talked about before with AI coming up with a
way to lie just to sound like it has an answer,

(13:09):
and in this particular case, it was being used to
diagnose but made up a part of the brain that
didn't exist.

Speaker 9 (13:15):
Yeah, this this one was This one was a really
rough one because this is actually something where Google was
creating a healthcare AI that you know, we don't need
to pick on Google, like all of the different platforms
are having these issues and doctors were testing it out
and it was making up a body part that doesn't exist.
You're right, and I think that one of the things

(13:38):
people need to remember as they're interacting with tools like chat, GPT,
grock claud You know, whatever your choice is that you're using,
is the way the engineers have created the technology. It
is supposed to give you an answer. And so in
trying to get to that, you know the end of

(13:58):
the computer loop, so speak, the computer program in designing
to give you an answer, it is not really trained
by most of the engineers to say, you know, I'm sorry,
I just don't know. Can you ask me a different question?
You know, back in the days, remember when we would
do Google searches. That sounds so quaint, Beth and Bo,
but you would try to find something or and then

(14:19):
it would be like error, you know, linkd not found.
You know, sometimes search gets it wrong, and we would
see it so spectacularly when we get an error message.
Well now it's as if, you know, these Jenai programs
don't want to admit that they could be wrong, and
so they just make something up in the end just
to give you an answer.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Let me roll back just for a second before we
say goodbye. And you mentioned the Internet Archive, and I
brought it up, and then you said the Wayback Machine.
And I think we've touched on this once before, but
I think it's one of those things where somebody might
be driving along saying where exactly is the Internet Archive?
Is it in a room with padlocks on it at
the Smithsonian, you know, is it physically some where? And

(15:00):
who decides that is the Internet Archive? You know, we've
been using the Internet since what nineteen ninety five ish
and it's just so commonplace. But then where's the server
for the whole thing? And if somebody goes in and
flips the switch off, then we all go dark. I
know that's not how it is, but then again, how
is it?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well?

Speaker 9 (15:20):
You have to wonder sometimes who is sort of the
ups and downs of technology, you know. I often think
of that scene and airplane where he you know, unplugs.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
The yeah airport, But it is.

Speaker 9 (15:32):
If anybody's interested in finding the Wayback Machine, also known
as the Internet Archive, you can go to web dot
archive dot org and you will find the nonprofit there.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
So there it is.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
It actually is more of a physical thing than we thought.
And then we thought. So that's why we love talking
to Teresa. The the incredibly complex questions and then questions
like where is the internet? And you know, how long
will it take me to drive there?

Speaker 4 (15:59):
All right, talk to you well, Beth and Bow.

Speaker 9 (16:02):
By the way, the Way Back Machine has over nine
hundred and forty billion web pages saved over time, so
it take you a while to get through it. But
Beth and Bow, it's always great to be with you
and be safe out there.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Good morning, Bow and Beth, thanks for taking my call
of course, I.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Love you guys.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
May maybe we did better every time.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I'll let you be hi. Yes.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
I was just so interested to go out of the
gym and heard the conversation.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
I was like, I have to call in Bethany, I
love you.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Let me say, Beth, Bethany, I love you too. This
is great. We should just end the show right now, Beth, Bethany,
take care of call anytime.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
This is good morning, beauty.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
All right, Wednesday morning. As expected, The text line is, well,
it's doing what it does.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Blowing up seven O four five seven oh eleven ten,
driven by Liberty Buick gmc bo. I think we need
you to repeat your beginning the show.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Story my issue.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I was gonna say Shenanigan's, but I don't know what this.
I don't know how to describe what you're dealing with.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Well, everybody forgot about it because Jim started talking about
giant spiders and I wasn't trying to top a her.
I said that the last few days in a house
that I've lived in for thirteen years, and I kind
of know the you know, the algorithms, things that happened thing,
you know, the types of whoop. Solo didn't want that
the things that happen in the yard, like the kind

(17:27):
of leaves, the kind of acorns that what they look.
You know, you have a house and you get used
to it.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
I am just now imagining Bo Thompson in his backyard
picking up the acorns, what kind of cornerssh.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yes, I should talk in that question. I no, But
what I said earlier was that I have some the
last like three or four days onslaught of these black
and yellow caterpillars that are that are falling out of
obviously a tree that's over where my back entrance is.
But like it's never happened before ever, I don't remember
ever having it. And I'm not talking about one. I'm

(17:59):
talkingalking about like I will clean up like sixteen of them,
and then I'll go back five minutes later and they're
sixteen more. Well, and then then you step on them
accidentally and they get mushy and they track stuff inside
and you mean they die and then they bring that
they leave droppings behind.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Well, everything poops. No, there's a book, there's a boot.
There's a book.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
I know there's a book. But I'm just saying, like,
like you know, in something like it's not like we
have a new tree in the backyard. So you say
that the text line is given all kinds of answers.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yes, well, people are wanting to help you out. Know
this gentleman or lady did not leave a name. I
would love to know your name. But this person says,
you've got gypsy mall this gypsy malls in your tree
bow and they have finally reached mature age and are
coming out. I think they are an invasive species and
it's best to get rid of them early before they mature.

(18:52):
And then someone else said that he remembered seeing those
kinds of things and all kinds of webbing in their tree,
and that their grandpappy would shoot them with a shotgun.
Shoot them down. All of the all of the all
of the the are their webs a.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Great suggestion bo shoot them down with a shotgun.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Well, okay, so I just looked up the gypsy moth caterpillar.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Look at the caterpillar.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
The caterpillar is fuzzy though, that's the ones I see
are not fuzzy. You know what I'm talking about. Give
me your tears and look like they're all they have.
Look at they have fuzzle on them. That's not what
I see they're like they're they're black and yellow, black
with yellow stripes.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Are they centipedes?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
No, they're not centipedes. I've learned all about those from you.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I know exactly which ones you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Bough where do you see?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
They're everywhere?

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Okay, well you have the problem too.

Speaker 10 (19:38):
No, I've just seen I've seen them, you know, out
and about as I've lived my life in thirty four
years on this planet, I've seen them.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
I've said a lot of things, particular houses, because because
if it is, I mean, it's going to turn into
a big moth then and now I can just start.
But it's not a gypsy because I see the caterpillar
version of that and that's not what I'm seeing in
my backyard.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Well if it, well that's good then, because gypsy. This
person says that they're an invasive species. So at least
maybe you're not dealing.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
With Have you googled black and yellow caterpillar?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Not yet? Maybe, But when you say invasive invasive species,
what am I gonna go home today and they're gonna
be like forty of them?

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Yeah, they could invade the tree, they could damage the tree.
But here's the thing with the gypsy moth. They could
get in your house and eat your sweat. They are
it could eat your sweaters.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Right there, Bernie, what does that one say?

Speaker 4 (20:24):
It's called oh, the hair.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Moths of North Carolina.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Off North Carolina helping me. That's that squares it away.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, because this is my point, is like I don't
feel like my neighbors are having this issue. It's it's
only one concentrated part of my yard fallen from the
tree above. But it's never like I guess maybe it's
one of those things that maybe this happens like once
every fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Maybe your tree.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Called an oak worm. Oh, it's not even a caterpillar.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
It's faking it. You have an oak tree?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Then, yeah, I do have an oak.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
I'm down the oak tree.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Look at you, man, you're the Internet archive today.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I am Kelly Popmam Poplin.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
Is no, you just google something?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
We should We.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Should just call Kelly Populin. That's what we should do
and see what he says.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
Or is this a Schneider tree Care situation.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
That actually this might be like a cross pollination thing. Oh,
you can say, Kelly, do you know, well, maybe I'll
call Schneider tree Care super friends in age.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
They were tag team stuff.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Well, here Kelly could deal with the the whatever it is,
the worm, and then and then Schneider Tree Care could
bring the tree back to health. If this species has
damaged the oak tree, way you could get deal with
the problem.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
If I were you, I would just move out, Just
get out and move it.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Maybe like what if? What if if if there's like
a whole bug world. You remember the cartoon of Bug's Life,
right right right? Such a great such a great movie.
So what if your tree is the the oak tree
like amusement park for all of the oak caterpillars and
they're falling because it's like this like Caro wins the
drop Zone. This is like the this is this is

(21:59):
their fun play, and you are just ruining it for
for all of them.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
There's a guide on there. He's murdering all of our people.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
This is a that's a nice way of saying what
Jim said, Just move Yeah, you'd be easier At this point.
I think, all right, Well, you know, see, every once
in a while you work on a fifty thousand what
radio station, you use it for the good of yourself.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well, and Doug says that he's more conscious now of
killing bugs. He gets worried about my husband's that way.
He likes to save the bugs. He'll save the bugs.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
I killed babies. I killed babies the other day.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Oh god, no, baby spiders.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
Word I had to Jim did not.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Kill babies, said old savage. You walk into the room
mid conversation, right right, baby spider.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I heard it.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
You said he killed babies.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I heard it.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Well, thank you, Charlotte, thank you text like.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
They all had the wrong picture of bugs for both situations,
though it was me.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I was the one that helped you. Bo Thank you Charlotte.
You just thank Bernie.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Where do you need to be when I think, Charlotte,
I think that's true.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
It is thirty four years old, Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Traffic check right now, Boomer von Cannon. Both of these
caterpillars all over your backyard? What my drive wi your driveway? Yeah,
so you can't walk on well, I mean.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Just drives over them thin time.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
One of our listeners said you should go fishing, that
these oak worms make great bait.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Oh if I had a lake near my house, well
you can come to my house. Okay, I'll just bring
all big jars caterpillars.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
This is gonna be great.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
Together to Why would be bring your in bait? Maybe
this is my new my new side gig. Yeah, I'll jar.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I'll put them all in jars and then sell them.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
On the side of the road.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Selling those oak worms.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Looks like you're gonna have to rebait rebait. Somebody out
there remembers that commercial. You should feel vindicated over there.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Oh, I feel like I'm I am personally responsible for
this trend.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
I think maybe you are one of the first things
that I learned about you that we would go into
category of did not know that involves a restaurant and
a visit to the restaurant by yourself.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
I we know this now. You guys are very familiar
with this. I love eating alone. But guys, this particular
restaurant is jam and it is seeing a resurgence. I'm
going to read part of this article in Slate magazine
that makes me feel so happy in my heart. Chili's, Folks,
Chili's is undergoing a renaissance. Three years ago, George Felix

(24:34):
was one of the team executives brought in to steer
Chili's into the post COVID era, led by their CEO,
who also used to work for KFC. You don't really
need to know that, but Chili's has transformed from a
nineties relic to the hottest restaurant chain in the country.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Okay, quick survey. Other than Beth Zochie, can you remember
the last time you went to a Chili's.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
Problem not exaggering, probably fifteen years ago because we lived
in Valentine and there was one in Blakeney and we
would take the kids there sometimes and I would usually
get the chicken tenders because I thought that was safe
there in.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Chicken tenders are yummy, but they have a thirty one
percent increase in sales year over year, just in the
last year, a thirty one percent increase in their sales.
I'm gonna tell you, if you haven't given Chilis a try,
you need to go back to Chili's.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Not only is there just for like special anniversary. I'm
just laughing because I said, let's pull the room Jim.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
Chili.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Oh yeah, has anyone else been?

Speaker 10 (25:35):
I speak for all of them, Yes, the past couple
of years. I've been in chili a couple of years. Yeah,
me and Emma go there every year for anniversary.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's beautiful, Okay.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
And Steve in a while.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah. See, okay, well I have to take the wine.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
I have to be completely honest. We I went. I
went alone for the first time to get away from
some people, and I texted Bow and Jim and I
was like, wait, was it us?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, let's clarify that.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
You won't say who it is.

Speaker 8 (26:05):
Was it us?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
No?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
I texted you guys, and I said, I've hit a
real low point. Guys. I'm sitting alone at the bar
at Chili's.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I went there to get away from some people. Then
I texted Bo and Jim.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
And I believe if you'll find me sharing you were
day drinking at the time.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
I was it was it was the weekend. It was
a Saturday, and I think I had a Gin and Tonic.
But here's where my love affair began with Chili's because
it had been a while.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
Sounds like a carnival.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Pa that song again, microphone smells like what are you doing.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Here of the bar?

Speaker 4 (26:44):
It had been a while since I had been in
her jaw making love to her, and.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
We've totally killed your segment.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
We're just hard to paint the picture more anyways. So
there you are Chili's with your andic in the afternoon.
So was she singing at the bar or just drinking it?

Speaker 4 (27:08):
I was enjoying a gin and tonic, Mark. I was
trying to get away from some people and I had
their their little caso skillet thing. I had forgotten how
yummy that is. And it's like bottomless salsa, and their
chips are really yummy, and they have like fun egg rolls.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I'm telling you, you got to take you out to
a good place to eat.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Chili's, though, Mark, it's seeing a resurgence. They are thirty
increase in the last year in sales and it's the
hottest chain restaurant in America. And by the way, Bernie
Bowles even got me a hat that says bat good.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Girls go to Heaven, Bad girls go to Chili's. It's
a great hat.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Oh wow, it is a great hate.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
To begin the life.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
See there's Beth in the corners. She's alone. Sit came
here for lunch since she just ordered dinner. Oh boy,
almost seven o'clock.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
How are you doing.

Speaker 11 (28:07):
I'm thinking, well, thank me up a cup of coffee
and chocolate donut with some of those little sprinkles on top.

Speaker 8 (28:12):
Where you're going?

Speaker 1 (28:12):
You're thinking from News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine
three w BT.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Hey Sam, practicing gratitude, manifesting abundance.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
This is good Morning Beat with both Thompson at BEV trout.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
But Heystic, done a good job. I'll trade this whole
thing out a mill of times.

Speaker 8 (28:33):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yes, it's coming back Opening Night, actually opening week of
the NBA. The schedule announced late yesterday the NBA on
NBC coming Back. Zokie was just talking about the Hornets
preseason schedule, and we think we'll get the full schedule

(28:58):
for the entire league tomorrow, so we'll know all the
dates for the Hornets, but the preseason schedule, none of
them at Spectrum Center because, like like the Zoke said,
you got the renovations going on. But the Hornets will
be the first team to play the defending NBA champions.
And not only that, they'll play them two nights or
to two in a row. October fifth in Charleston, South Carolina,

(29:21):
and then in Oklahoma City they take on the Thunder
the fifth and the ninth of October. And then you
have October eleventh against the Dallas Mavericks that'll be in Dallas.
Then you have the fifteenth in Greensboro. That's the Memphis Grizzlies.
And then they finished the preseason at the Garden, Madison
Square Garden. I'm chatta, Actually no, I messed that up.

(29:43):
You would say the Boston God and you wouldn't say.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
The Madison Square that's where you have Poaka ka Yeah,
bukta kaw.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
So anyway, at Madison Square Garden Garden. Are we excited
about this? Bernie?

Speaker 6 (29:56):
You could look at Beth about that accident.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
I actually yeah, that was really it was awesome.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Good god, my basketball just ended. How are we already
back at it.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
It's a long season.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
Well this is for October.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
I feel like basketball is NASCAR now.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
Well no, it's like it's still two months away from this,
so we still we're just we're just talking about it.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yes, I'm very excited.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Did you see the promo on esp with John Tesh.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
I did, Yes, absolutely, I saw that and got cold chills.
John Tesh still looks really good. He's got all his hair.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
That's what That's what Tracy Morgan says at the end.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
John, you still got it?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
John Desh still got it.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yes, he's still got it. And man out on the floor.
The fact that they have leaned into this ba BA basketball.
They even show some of the the SNL skit. The
fact that NBC's leaning into it. Man, I love it.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
It makes me more interested in in the NBA just
because of that.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Just because of that, you want a little bit of
it here Basketball, pull it up for you because because
you're right, they are totally leaning into John Tesh. And
by the way, Opening night goes to NBC and then
Opening the next night be on ESPN and ABC. You
have Amazon Prime, which I think they're going to announce
their games today. But this is a whole new era

(31:07):
for for NBA basketball coming up to Spalla. The hope
is is that the Hornets are end up being good
enough to maybe they flexed some games into some of
these bigger n.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
B A nights.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
But here we go.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Bump that.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Basketball.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
So you get the idea. But I want you to
hear the very end. This is what I'm talking about.
I still got it there it is. It ends with John.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
The n b A is coming home to and streaming
on Peaco.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
I'm telling John, still got it.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
John Tesh standing in the middle of the basketball court
with all of the spotlights on him and he's standing
up at the keyboard and his hair is just like
snow white, and he's in a suit. It's fantastic. It
is cold chills inducing in my opinion. Well done.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Opening Night in the NBA will be on NBC Oklahoma.
This is after they play the Hornets in the preseason,
but Oklahoma the city the thunder defend their NBA title
that that officially begins against the Rockets, which you remember,
Kevin Durantz now with the Rockets seven thirty on NBC
on October twenty first, and the Lakers and the Warriors.
So Lebron versus Steph at ten pm on NBC on

(32:43):
Opening Night. Then the next night on the ESPN you
get the Nicks and the Calves and the MAVs and
the Spurs, and like I said, it goes, you know,
all throughout that week. But we'll find out when the
NBA will debut on Amazon Prime I think today.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
So did basketball always overlap football? I feel like it
used to be that we'd have football and then we'd
have basketball, and then we'd have hockey. And now it
feels like they're all at the same time.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
No, it's always started about the same time. It just
goes longer into the summer than it did back in
decades previously when the playoffs were not as extensive, So
it starts kind.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Of, it just feels longer.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
This summer was was unique because the NBA Finals went
as long as they could go, and then what two
nights later was the NBA Draft, and then less than
a week after that the Summer League started.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
That the hornet.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Maybe that's what it is. Maybe it's the fact that
that this was the Summer League always a thing, or
it's been for a while.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yea cool, cool, cool tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
This is the time of year where they got to
a low basketball and people don't brush their.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Teeth all right.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Seven twenty on WBT, still getting emails and texts about
America's favorite restaurant.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Guys, Chili's. Chili's has made a resurgence. We were talking
about this in our business segment. It is now considered
the hottest chain restaurant in America with a thirty one
percent sales increase and kind of a revamp of their style.
I was im I'm a fan. I'm a fan of Chili's.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
Have you guys have been making.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
We've been getting tons of texts. Carl says, don't feel
bad about eating alone, Beth, I prefer being alone myself
to recharge. And also, Chili's burgers are top notch, Jeff.
Jeff says Beth is correct. Chili's menu has drastically changed,
tasty food and prices are reasonable. Our friend Michael Brown

(34:33):
sent probably the best gift of a of a girl
sitting at a bar with a drink looking like she's
having a really good time. And I think it's supposed
to look like it's me at the bar, and it
says another round of chips and salsa. Bar keep, Hey, buddy,
I used to be in an a cappella group. But
he also said Chili's has made a resurgent and resurgence.
Rick went to the original Chili's. He said, good morning

(34:56):
on the Chili's topic, I was raised in Dallas, Texas.
I've eaten at the Origin in Greenville many years ago.
Chili's had lost its bang for a while, but fast
forward to recent months, I've found that I like Chili's again.
The food is reasonably priced. Try the Casadia.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Do you think the gen Alphas like Chili's.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
They should.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
They don't know what they're missing.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
But maybe this means they do, because if it's having
a resurgence, maybe the young maybe the young youngins are
going to Chili's.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Well, I would imagine if if they are seeing a resurgence,
I bet it's the young people wanting good food at
a reasonable price.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Gen Alpha. If you don't know the PenPoint generation, it's
if you're born between twenty ten and twenty twenty four.
So the youngest portion of the listenership out there jen alpha's.
And I mentioned this because there's a new Fortune magazine
poll what Gen Alphas want to be when they grow up.
If I had asked all of you at when you were,

(35:52):
you know, Gen Alpha age, what you wanted to be
when you grew up? Are you what you wanted to be.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
When you grew up?

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (35:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Like if i'd asked you that day or one of
those days during that that that era for you, that age,
what would what would you have said?

Speaker 4 (36:07):
I would have said a broadcaster. Okay, I probably was
thinking more television at the at the at the time,
but I kind of also wanted to be in the
new kids on the block, so.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
I didn't do that, which is interesting because you're a
girl I know it wouldn't have fit, and they're not
that popular anymore.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Oh, oh contrere as it were they asked me what.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
The jen Alphas? But oh, contrere, would you have said
broadcaster too?

Speaker 6 (36:32):
Yeah, they actually told a story. I know you said,
so it's basically up to a fifteen year old. But
when I was a senior in high school member in class,
what do you want to do? The teacher asked, uay,
I want to be a sports anouncer. So, I mean,
I'm sure at fifteen or whatever, this is exactly what
I still wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
We were talking about the Meyers Briggs test yesterday and
also whatever test it was that I took in ninth
grade on the scan tron where you had to fill
out all your attributes and they would they would spit
out what this is what you should be based on this.
I said yesterday that mine was radio broadcaster. And I
was the only one in the class back in ninth
grade that particular class who said what they wanted to

(37:05):
be on the outset and then got that in the
end everybody else. It was like, you know, I thought
they wouldn't got like something that had nothing to do
with it was that.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
They wanted to be a teacher, and they got like
nurse or something.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
What our youngest kid, but they did that that same thing.
We had to follout the form and they told you
to spit out while you could be He got high
school gym coach.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's a solid job.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
I think that's what a fun job.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
Imagine be like seventeen and getting high school gym coach.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
What Jen Alphas want to be when they grow up?
Survey from nine hundred and ten jen Alpha aged kids
twelve to fifteen years old selected their career and what
they're aspiring to be. I'm going to work backwards here.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Fourteen percent of people in this Fortune magazine survey said teacher.
That's that's tied with musician. Fourteen percent of the respondents
said that they wanted to be either a teacher or
a musician. Jen Alphas, what do you want to be
when you grow up? Okay, fifteen percent? These two are tied.
A sports athlete? Online streamer?

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Oh jeez, what's an online stream Oh my gosh, is
that just people that do live streams? Like OnlyFans?

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Well?

Speaker 6 (38:18):
Oh waita, whoa whoa.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
We made kind of a jump there.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
A friendly show.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I don't know what if you're gonna stay online, what
are you gonna do?

Speaker 6 (38:28):
I don't know what idea? What that is she's making side?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Wait, wait, you don't know what only fans is.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
No, oh, we don't need to know what you say.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's a whole other segment.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
So like gating and.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Streaming, like like if you're playing some of these really.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Live streaming, like live streaming about.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
People will watch other people do things.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
This would not be to the generation both talking about.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
No, sixteen sixteen percent of people said artist, all right,
some painters out there, I like it, sculptors.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Seventy seventeen percent of Jennalysis said they want to be
an entrepreneur. There you go, okay, nineteen percent an app
or video game developer.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Oh oh, isn't that funny that not even something that
was available really to us? Well, at least not app developer.
I guess we could have been developing video games.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Now. The next one is the one that twenty percent said,
we haven't heard this one yet. Now, when when we
were kids, if you wanted to be successful, your parents
wanted you to be successful, what was the thing that
they said you should be?

Speaker 6 (39:22):
They want you to be a doctor, a doctor.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Twenty percent of Jen Alpha's want to grow up to
be a doctor. Twenty one percent want to be a
TikTok creator.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
Oh my, so we have more TikTok creators and doctors
are cooked, as the kids say, we're cooked. I need surgery.
Oh we got a TikTok creator. Hold on, I gotta
do that? Will that do?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
All?

Speaker 8 (39:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
So number one thirty two percent, now.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Number long shot. This is number one by a long shot.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
And the next closest was TikTok creator at twenty one percent.
This is thirty two percent of Gen Alpha's when they
grow up want to be a YouTuber.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Oh, oh my god at am radio co host YouTuber.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
So I started really thinking about this. I mean, I
guess that the YouTube generation, the YouTubers are the celebrities
of our generation. So if our you know, ten year
when we were ten year olds, if we said we
wanted to be an actor or an actress, or we
wanted to be a professional singer, is that the equivalent
now of what a YouTuber is? Are YouTubers that famous

(40:28):
in young people's minds?

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Isn't wasn't justin Bieber and Usher? Those two they were
found on YouTuber Usher. They found justin Bieber one Usher.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Also Usher came before you.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Okay, all right, so, but but Usher and YouTube, Usher
and and Bieber are connected via YouTube.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Well, a lot of musicians have been discovered through YouTube,
but then they become mainstream. But there are so many
I don't know how many documentaries you guys watch, but
I get obsessed with the documentaries of the people who
have these incredible, this incredible ride to fame on YouTube.
They have these channels about their families or and then
it turns out there's this whole like dark side to

(41:06):
it and they get they get involved in cults or
you know whatever. But all of these people start out
in these very modest homes and just kind of this
normal middle class American life, and then they they rise
to YouTube fame and start making something like one hundred
and fifty two hundred thousand dollars a month.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
It's a lot a month.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
And whenever used to work for an online show that
was about online content.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
The top show.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
You got to see this, the top the top earners
on YouTube. We're making in the twenty million.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Dollar range, and what are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Maybe we should YouTube, guys. I don't know what we would.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
Well, you got those seventeen second and it.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Is on YouTube. It is it does it? It shows
up on YouTube.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
Yes, you're gonna be popular with that age group.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Have you ever heard of Katie Feenie Zochie No? I
had never heard it. For Katie Phoenie got signed to
a major deal by ESPN to report on football, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
Besides the story, I didn't know she was okay, Katie
Feeney is one of the.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Most popular content creators on TikTok. She has more than
fourteen million social media followers and they've just hired her
at ESPN to cover the NFL this fall because of
those social media.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Followers, because of her TikTok fame.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
So here we go.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
I mean, have we been doing it wrong?

Speaker 6 (42:24):
I think this is like the Taylor Swift effect because
they're trying to bring in people that you know, the
football audience is pretty substantial. Obviously, where else can they
keep mining for new viewers? So I think that's well
they're going.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
And I know we got to go to news, but
we just yesterday mentioned the Taylor Swift appearance in the
teaser video for Travis and Jason Kelsey's podcast, which hits tonight,
and she unveiled her new album already since yesterday, the
highest highest rated video ever.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Well, and her website crashed yesterday.

Speaker 11 (42:55):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah, and that's just the teaser. So get ready. I
told you yesterday it's going to be. It's going to
be the most listened to podcast in the history of podcasts.
And I don't think that's hyperbole.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
I think you're on right. So we're just living a
different era.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
You can see this newscast forthcoming here on YouTube by Fanning.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
No, no, this is good Morning Beauty.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Zochie said it yesterday first person to mention to rip
off the scab pumpkin spice. Oh no, you're not doing
a puppet spil you said it, and I have not
seen it anywhere yet. Has anybody else seen it?

Speaker 4 (43:38):
I have not seen a pumpkin spice offering, but I
have started seeing the news articles about when places are
going to add the pumpkin spice back to their fall menus.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Well, since we're on the subject of Halloween, because you know,
it's never too early to start getting ready, just ask
Liz Luda down the Hall. She was online yesterday. Devin,
you know she she has pretty elaborate Halloween costumes every year,
and she's already started test driving them online, like she
is way ahead of the curve.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
She was a hot dog day and she wore at
the whole show. She was a hot dog the whole show.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I respect it.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
I really did too, because I would have been sweating
up a store like the day.

Speaker 6 (44:16):
It was like raining cats and dogs one hundred degrees.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, yeahah, she was gonna full on hot dog.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
That's commitment to the bit.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
I think it's her favorite day of the year.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I really do.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
And there are people out there who are all about that.
You know, Christmas in July gets all the coverage, but
there are people who like the Halloween in the summer.
I say this because because Carowins yesterday making announcements about
Scarewins coming back in the fall and the offerings they're
going to have for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Have y'all ever been to Scarewins? Have y'all have y'all
part taken?

Speaker 6 (44:47):
Not partaken?

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Several times I think I've told the story have y'all
part took? I've said on the air before. There was
one time when my kids were younger, like you know,
like middle school age, and we went to scare Winds
and we went and there was a big storm that
came up and then cleared the park out. But it
wasn't it wasn't a washout. It was just a big

(45:10):
storm that was looming and so they, out of precautions,
made everybody clear out. But then the storm, you know,
blew over and they let people back in. But by
that time, there weren't that many people in the park,
So you think about it was us in proportion to
all the people that were there to to all the
goblets scare people, and like we would, we would go
from one ride to the other, and you'd go from

(45:32):
you'd run, so they didn't jump out of it. Because
you think about it when you go there now, it's
so crowded on a regular night that if you don't
want to be, you know, spooped, you can sort of
avoid that. But when there's really nobody there and they're
just kind of like targeting you, they do the thing.
You know, do they still do the thing? I don't
know they did then when when somebody would jump out
of the bushes and they're wearing those knee protectors that

(45:54):
catchers were in the baseball games and they slide across
the asphalt and it sparks.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Yes, they would love to do that, you know, in
that little I don't know if the tunnel is still
there where the bathrooms are. You know, it's like a
greenery tunnel and they would hide in the greenery tunnel
and then slide through and spark at you on their knees.

Speaker 11 (46:11):
Hm.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
That'd be a bad timing right before you have to
go to the bathroom, right that.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
I didn't make it that that happened to me. So
if you haven't been to Scare Winds, I think it's
a brilliant concept because I mean, if you're like me
and you don't like roller coasters and you don't like
counted houses, all the things that are terrifying are right
there together. So it's kind of the perfect if you
want to be a scared kind of thing. But this year,

(46:36):
I'm not lying. They've come up with a great name
this year. It's called the Conjuring Beyond Fear and it's
described this is a quote as an interactive screamium. An
interactive screamium, what.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
Does that even mean?

Speaker 4 (46:50):
It just means that you're gonna scream like guess we'll
navigate iconic scenes and face legendary entities such as the
nun and ann A Bill.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Oh everybody's scared of nuns, right.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Well, I'm scared of annabel that's the doll right from
the Conjuring Oh v none like the Yeah, they're like
sixteen of those movies.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yeah them, they're apparently still.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Making well in Annabelle, y'all. That's the that's the true
story of the Haunted doll. If you come at me
with a doll or like Chucky, that.

Speaker 6 (47:20):
Little thing, No Chucky, I do. I buyed Chucky comical,
but the other dolls are scary. That Chucky is just
so well known. I feel like he's just like, hey, buddy,
how's going.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Can you imagine?

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Oh hey, that's yeah, that's the premise.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
Can you imagine Can you imagine waiting in line, already
terrified because you're about to get on three sixty whatever
it is, the three sixty one, the big one? What
is that called? Oh the Fury Fury, And you're already
scared because that hill is so big, and then like
a scary little doll peeps over the hedges. No, but

(47:56):
this is brilliant.

Speaker 6 (47:56):
That's all premises are trying to scare you.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Yeah, no, it's brilliant. Have y'all been to scary haunted houses?

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Oh? I've been to Scare Winds a couple of times,
and I've said this before. The haunted house that I
always remember as a kid. You know where the CarMax
is on Independence Boulevard now, yeah? Yeah, yeah, there used
to be a haunted house there many years ago before
they built that CarMax over by Marcaret Wallace.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Do y'all know where Jackson Training School is in Kabarras County,
No idea. It's like a dilapidated place now, but it's
where they used to. My parents used to say, if
you misbehave, we're going to send you to Jackson Training School.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
Are your dad?

Speaker 4 (48:28):
The way they did haunted houses in those dilapidated buildings
one year and oh it is the scariest thing.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
You're sure it was a haunted house and not just
the place your dad.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Since this is good morning, Beaty, I have.

Speaker 12 (48:42):
A radical idea. The door swings both ways. We could
reverse the particle club through the game. How we'll cross
the streets. Welcome Twitter Ball.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
Here's a friend from work.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
That's right, It's Wednesday here on News Talk eleven and
ten WBT Bowen Beth, and now we link up with
our good buddy Brett Winterble from the Brett Wintererble Show
every weekday three to six pm here on the Great Colossus.
How are you this week? I'm great. How you guys doing.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
We're good.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Just watching all the headlines come through, and I knew
we'd be talking about the Trump Putin meeting coming up
on Friday, But now several outlets are reporting that President
Trump and Vice President JD Vance will take part in
a virtual meeting today with Ukrainian President Zelensky and European allies.
So I guess this means I mean, we've been talking

(49:43):
and wondering about whether Zelensky will figure into the Friday meeting.
I don't know if this totally precludes that from happening,
but it is significant that today, at least electronically, there's
going to be a back and forth apparently.

Speaker 13 (49:56):
And it's kind of interesting because when we go back
to that original meeting, what was it like four months ago,
something like that, five months ago, this all could have
been like put on the table then, right, if Zelensky
didn't decide he wanted to be famous, and I understand. Look,
he's the head of state for Ukraine. I totally respect that.

(50:18):
But the fact of the matter is, I don't think
that they're going to really be able to keep him
in the way that you would want to keep him.
And Vladimir Putin is a vicious killer, and he is
a guy that President Trump's gonna have to go and
meet with.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
I do like that it's virtual.

Speaker 13 (50:39):
And the only thing that I immediately think about, being
a former producer like all of us, is man, I
hope somebody's got the mute button, because if you end
up with something weird going out or a comment made,
it will it will look like a clown show. And
I don't want that to be the case.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
I want this.

Speaker 13 (50:58):
I want this war over, and I think this is
this is what's going to have to happen. If he's
got to talk to Zelensky, I don't know. Maybe Zelensky
doesn't answer, Uh, maybe he does. Who knows, Maybe he
walks out virtually, which would be really weird. Uh, But
we have to wait and see how this goes. And Uh, again,
I'm rooting for peace, but I'm not rooting for Putin.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
One of the news packages that I saw about this
virtual call that's happening with leaders from the EU that
the German Chancellor actually set up. Is one of the
concerns is they were worried that President Trump was going
to walk into a Putin trap on Friday, and I
wasn't quite sure what they meant by that. Can you

(51:38):
can do you think that that this meeting is going
to be Trump in the in the power position? Or
do you think that that Putin thinks he's coming in
in the power position?

Speaker 13 (51:49):
Well, Putin's coming to Alaska, right, So that tells me
that Trump's in the in the got the hot hand here,
and Trump can Trump can just terminate the conversation and
at any moment and say, Okay, you're not serious, you
don't want to do this, Okay, we're just gonna send
more weapons over to to the NATO allies and good
luck with that of lad We tried. Uh So I

(52:10):
think Trump does have the hand here, but Vladimir Putin
is going to you know, he's gonna.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Be like the charming and I don't mean literally charming,
but he's gonna be like the guy.

Speaker 13 (52:19):
Yes, I really want I hate Zelensky, but you know
all that, and then he's gonna go back to Russia
and he's gonna do what Russians always do. Uh and
and and he's gonna he's gonna be a think and
he's gonna pull some games. What Trump should say to
the European allies is this, we're giving you all the weapons.
You guys are buying them from us. You guys have
to be responsible for Zelensky, not me. Let me take

(52:42):
over the fight with the big bully in Putin. You
guys got to keep this guy in check because it's
gonna be you guys where Putin's gonna be rolling into
your town and you don't want that to happen, and
we don't want that to happen. So I think you
have to assign the sort of larities here like we
did uh with the with the meetings with Winston Churchill

(53:05):
and FDR and and uh uh Stalin and so I
think that's.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
That's how this has to go.

Speaker 13 (53:10):
So everybody's got to be responsible for somebody else.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Let me ask you about another story. This is honestly,
it's it's pretty fascinating to sort of just sit there
and watch, but uh, okay, three people in particular. Laura
Lumer is one, Marjorie Taylor Green is two, Mark Levin
is three. There's some infighting going on within a group
of people that are staunch Trump supporters but have gotten

(53:33):
in and I'm talking about I mean some of this stuff.
If you've read some of the stuff that Lumor has
posted about MPG, and then like I said, marjor Alie
Taylor Green has been going at it with with Mark Levin,
Uh is this does any of this matter? Do you
think President Trump pays any attention to this? I mean,
it's pretty uh, pretty salacious what's being said.

Speaker 13 (53:52):
I think I think what I think with what Trump's
gonna do is he's gonna he'll jump in when it's
time to jump in, and he'll tell them to knock
it off or else whatever is going to happen. Let
me just say this, Mark Levan is unc Okay, what
you've got with Marjorie Taylor Green is Kennesaw Mountain State,
and then.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
What you've got with Loomer Lumer.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
I wanna be nice.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
I'm gonna be trying to be really nice.

Speaker 8 (54:17):
She is.

Speaker 13 (54:20):
Cape Cod Community College, bar and grill.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Okay, so so given that. I mean, Mark Levin is
a big dude. I mean, I'll tell you a Mark
Levin story next time we do the I bet you
have a lot of Levin's story. Now. Levin obviously has
a great relationship with President Trump. Marjorie Taylor Green sort
of is on the outside looking in, it seems like
right now, But do you how much influence do you

(54:47):
really think Laura Lum Because if you listen to her,
she you know, President Trump listens to everything she says.
But when it comes down to it, how much do
you think he actually pays attention to what she says?

Speaker 13 (54:56):
There you go, you just said it. That's the magic word.
He listens to it, but then he makes his own decisions.
And I think he's got people around him who are like, Okay,
she has this theory, but this thing she's every once
in a while she's right. And I'm not anti and
Laura Lumer, so please don't come mob stock me. But
the fact of the matter is she, you know, she
is a personality just like many others. And I think

(55:19):
Trump does listen, but I think he charts his own path.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Well, we always chart the path of three o'clock here
on WBT every weekday afternoon. What's coming up on the
Big Show today?

Speaker 13 (55:29):
Coach Doherty joining us for thirty five. We're gonna ask
him about all this stuff, you know what. I'm gonna
ask him about what he thinks will happen with Bill
Belichick and UNC. I'm just very curious about that and
everything else between now and thy.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
I kind of want you to ask him about the
Cape Cod Community College bar and grill.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Hey, Hey, odds are he's been there? I have because
he's been everywhere? All right, man, good to talk to you.
See that's Brett Winterble. I'm Bo, she's Beth, and we're
back after this.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
I'm gonna call him and tell him you're coming.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Should we ask for a particular ALPHABETA Stan.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
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Speaker 2 (56:08):
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Speaker 6 (56:10):
We hug around here, everybody.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
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at Beth Trout.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
But it's pretty much my favorite animal.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
Refer its skills and magic.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Nothing sos out.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
Sing when.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
To this not God?

Speaker 3 (56:36):
I love educating. Young Bernie on occasion said neither yeah
outside so so say heyday was this was the genesis
of this uh text line post No, I I actually
don't know from Mike Shaper. Actually, hang on one second,

(56:58):
here we go, I am.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
In this way.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
So right right there during the news Bernie says, what
is Toad the Wet Sprocket.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
It's like that just sounds bad.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I've definitely heard this song. I just didn't know that
that was the name of the band.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Yeah, nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
Every song there I was born could could be don't know,
a great year that could have been your name Toad
cool or Sprocket, Toad Bulls.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
I was just looking looking through the catalog. I mean
I had I had boy Crazy the other day, I
think I do America. Oh man, oh this is going
to be shadow though not Casey Boo.

Speaker 6 (57:51):
Here with his shadow right to the top.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
We spotted the shot. This was their other hits hit
you know this one?

Speaker 5 (58:00):
Bur I do know.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yeah, I had no idea that this that that's a
very odd name for a band.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
You're Toad the Wet Sprocket fan. You didn't even know.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Well, I think when you name your band and you're
trying to be relevant or something that someone will talk
about years to come. You need to name it something
where someone would go Toad the wet sprocket, what what
is that?

Speaker 10 (58:19):
And then there we go, but coming to the Balentine
and on the twenty third we have tickets to get away.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
You're told the wet Sprocketyah, So.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
That's what the email came through.

Speaker 10 (58:27):
Did I know that it just came That's why I said,
that's okay, this question for Mike Shaper.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
He actually just told us that we.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Would go see Tod the wet sprogue.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Well, I think we just answered yes to his email.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Ye, yes, Mike, Yes, whatever you said.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
But Buddy just told us that ten pairs next week.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
So is our contest named that toad?

Speaker 6 (58:49):
Name that.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
I picked?

Speaker 6 (58:52):
That wet sprocket is.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Kind of toad?

Speaker 7 (58:56):
Is this?

Speaker 3 (58:57):
We haven't even done the contest and it just became
our best one ever? Named that toad.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
I'm just going to read out descriptions of toads across
North America.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Not really, I mean Keith Larson one time said, what
a toad?

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Remember that it's a great that's a great, like kind
of sweet insults at someone. Oh you're just a toad?

Speaker 3 (59:23):
All right? Well, that's a great way to find out
about a contest. I had no idea what way.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
To build it up bigger if we know that information
about the contest.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
So, Mike, our program director, if you're listening, you sent
the email and Bernie's response was, what is Toad the Wetsprocket.
So now now Bernie knows. Now you know as you
listen to WBT that we're going to give away Toad
the Wet Sprocket tickets.

Speaker 6 (59:47):
Are there other bands with them we know?

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Or is it just email just says to the Rocket,
that's it's the subject line.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
I mean, it's like best special guest Gin Blossoms.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
There were weird band names back in that toe the
Wets Rocket, Jim Blossoms, Crash Test Dummies, Pearl Jam, Crash
Test Jump Jump Jump, Yummy Jummies, crust Crack Band.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
I guess, oh, the presidents of the United States of America.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
There you go, Crash Test Dummies, got it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Hey, buddy, you know what Pearl Jam's original name was,
don't you? Oh gosh, no, Mookie Blaylock.

Speaker 6 (01:00:22):
That's right, if we got them. But now I remember, wait, but.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Isn't there something else that's a Mookie Blaylock.

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
Uh baseball, Bets, it's named for a player. Rookie Bets
and Mookie Blaylock are both baseball.

Speaker 14 (01:00:33):
Look so Toe the wet Sprocket, KT Tunstall and uh oh,
I just walked away. It's on my screen, Bernie. What's
that third band? I forget I know who they are,
I just forget the name.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
They're coming with them? Yes, six sixpence on.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
The Richard Richard.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
So yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:00:51):
So basically we're looking at like almost like the the nineties,
you know tours that are going.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
This is a very nineties tour, brought to you by
one oh seven point nine The link y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
I loved this song back in the day.

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
I think Blaine Kells is gonna be the FC.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
I want to this.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Yeah right, we'll have you introduce him on stage.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Bets, Oh that was on point, Ben, that's what it
can be.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Kiss a frog when tickets to Toad the wet Sprocket.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Yes, they don't know what this. People actually name this
kiss song.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
I love.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
You know a lot of a lot of radio shows
give away tickets, and we do too, but only one
finds out about the tickets decides the contest. All in
one segment and before it, we had no idea this
was even happening.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
I didn't even know and introduces our producer to some
toad the wet Sprocken kids.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
You could do a who kissed that toad? And you
could do guys that just OutKick their coverage, like you'd
never expect.

Speaker 6 (01:01:53):
This person to be married to this person's wow seeking
working out live on the air.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
That's exactly right. We don't need meetings after the show.
We just do them on the air, right, We'll do
it while we're here, right all together now eight thirteen
on WBT traffic check right now boom Er Van cana Hey, Jim,
is Blaine.

Speaker 6 (01:02:10):
Going to be d MC for that concert blaining back
in town? I kind of just do that out there,
so Blaine's not aware of that yet, But that was
my first thought and suggestion for early nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
That would be perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
But I think Blaine would do it, Sir, sir, yes, sir.
Last time we mentioned Blaine, he texted me that day
like he's here, here's the show now?

Speaker 6 (01:02:26):
And then hello, sir, what's up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Blaine Kellys living around Tampa?

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Now?

Speaker 8 (01:02:30):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
That's right?

Speaker 8 (01:02:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Yeah, Well, I here's what it was it was I
have to look it up. I think he someone here
heard us talking about him, and now I can't remember
why we were talking about him. But any excuse to
talk about Blaine Kellys of wbc Y and w r
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Speaker 6 (01:02:45):
We'll do it. Maybe we won't have a good time
team up at Blaine sometime and go to a wrestling match.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
There we go.

Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
That is a R A S S L I N.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
Ut story.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Hes to work wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
He does them all too. Man, this dude is are.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Incredible Boomer have you ever have you ever heard of
Toad the wet Sprocket.

Speaker 6 (01:03:03):
Yeah, they used to play them on the end.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
What Oh, okay, not you. I thought you were going
to say they played them on Magic and I was like,
no way.

Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
I think Rosack's been there for thirty years.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
There's another great one, man.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
I love I love that Chris is a great guy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I gotta do the sound check check one check check simple.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
You know, we just have a conversation with us.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
We don't know the microphones are here. We're just hanging
out chatting with each other. I didn't realize so now
that this was a job and we're always gone hang out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
I'm sorry, I'm just over here still thinking about you know,
like people sitting in focus groups and around from tables,
and we've got to think of a slogan for that
morning show. You know, good morning bet the team to
listen to, or the best way to start your day,
and but really, honestly, good morning bet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
They don't know they a microphone.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
That's one of the underrated TV theme songs of all time.
And you never watched this never?

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
No, I did not see a lot of I know
what this show is, but it wasn't one that we
watched often. I think I might have been too young
when this one was in its in its heyday, live
on the air. I think when I did see it,
I think I saw it in syndication.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
So. Danielle Spencer, who played Roger's sister on What's Happening,
died yesterday at the age of sixty. She was also,
in addition to an actor of veterinarian.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
I know, I loved learning this about her. After her
time on this show as a young actress, she ended
up going to a veterinary school, becoming a veterinarian and
then work really hard with you know, animal rights and
trying to make sure that that Animals Bound Homes just
had a completely, you know, different second act from what

(01:05:10):
her first career was. And I kind of love hearing
stories like that when people find their passion in different ways.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
So if you watched What's Happened in the late seventies
and I guess into the early eighties on how many
seasons it was, but and then they had What's Happening Now,
which was kind of They tried to reboot it a
few years later when they got older. But anyway, you
know Raj and Dwayne and Rerun and Shirley and one
of the secret weapons of the show was this little
girl who played Raj's sister named Dee on the show.

(01:05:41):
And those of you who know what I'm talking about
know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:05:44):
Here we go, Come on, Mama, how do I look?

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Roger did?

Speaker 6 (01:05:47):
It's something I have to tell you, Okay, but cut
you hurry.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Up because I don't want to be late for the
five Can I go in my room?

Speaker 8 (01:05:53):
Mama?

Speaker 15 (01:05:54):
Well of course, honey, good because even though we fight,
I like Roger, I don't want to be here when
you told me has to babysit and can't go to
the park.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Babysit and can't go to the park.

Speaker 6 (01:06:16):
Oh my my, I can't stay tonight any night but tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Oh don I know how you feel, But I have
to go to work tonight. We need the money.

Speaker 16 (01:06:24):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Please bear with me and just do what you're told.

Speaker 6 (01:06:26):
Yeah, Roger, just do as you are told.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Shut up before behind, not be quiet, Roger.

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
Yeah, I'd be quiet, Roger.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Shut upon beata behind.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
You know, we were just talking about, obviously the passing
of Malcolm Jamal Warner, and that got us talking about
the Cosby Show, and then here we have again. Her
name on the show was d Her name was Danielle Spencer.
She passed away earlier this week at the age of
sixty due to gastric cancer and cardiac arrest. But it's

(01:07:01):
just you know, there were says she has appeared in
sixty five episodes of What's Happening on ABC, and then,
like I mentioned, sixteen more on What's Happening Now, which
most people forgot about. But that's just one of those shows.
When I was a kid, I was too young to
watch it when it was live.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Yeah, because I looked this up. It premiered in November
of nineteen seventy six and went off the air in
April of nineteen seventy nine, So it started before I
was even a twinkle in Mom's eye.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
But it played in syndication for years and years. It
was right during the era of like Sanford and Son
and the Jeffersons and Good Times, and this one was
not as popular as those, but I mean when you
stick around for sixty five episodes, and that's such several.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Seasons worth, but yeah, four seasons.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
She was funny, like if you're watching any scene and
the little sister d would would wander in, she would
definitely steal the show.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
You know, Mom of my favorite sentence was.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
And so graduate not only from high school, but from
dependence to n dependence.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
That was your favorite sentence? And what was yours? The
one you begin in conclusion?

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
So I mean she was the comic relief. Really, she
was the sassy little sister that everybody kind of wished
they had in their family.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
And it's funny to listen to sitcoms from that era
because even when we heard the Cosby show clips we
were playing a few weeks ago. When THEO died, the
comedy was like you had to work a little harder
for the laughs. Like now you watch a comedy and
they don't even have the laugh track half the time anymore.
But back in that era where we just we just heard,
it's like they would laugh at anything. It's like Roger,

(01:08:50):
you're stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
I kind of miss the multi camera sitcom show. They
don't really do those anymore. Everything has kind of taken
on them the office style or you know, the modern
family style. It's not the performance on the half set.
That's a performance in front of a live studio audience.
That kind of felt like and I would imagine when
they created this, back when television became a thing, they

(01:09:14):
were recreating a stage show and just putting cameras there.
And I miss the feeling of those shows. I when
I lived in Los Angeles, would I go into some
of the shows that were being filmed and be part
of the studio audience because they would need, especially after
nine to eleven, they didn't allow people on the sets,
and so they would use all of the interns and
all of the production assistants from other shows to come

(01:09:36):
in and be the live studio audience to even provide
the laugh track. And there was something really kind of
special about that era of television. It's gone now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Well, the only place I think you find it is
on Saturday Night Live, because you know they're on set there.
But there was a period of time, and this extended
into the eighties with like The Facts of Life for
Different Strokes or some of these shows where the audience
you could tell when you're watching it that the audience
is a part of the part of the act Yeah,
and you didn't totally know what they were going to

(01:10:07):
laugh at the most until you actually did it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
And you kind of would watch the actors try to
figure out what to do until the laughter died. That
kind of fun thing. And I feel like the last
maybe really popular show that had a live studio audience
might have been The Big Bang Theory and it it
went off the air in what twenty seventeen should have
been Cerner wo wow.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
But you know, like what was your favorite in conclusion,
But there was also an era. All those shows from
that era not only did they did they they laugh,
but whenever characters came into the room for the first time,
they'd applaud and it'd be sometimes like forty five.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Seconds, especially if it was a special guest star or
something like the moment that Bruce Willis walked onto the
Friends set, people went absolutely nuts. And I kind of
miss that feeling too, when somebody was a special guest
star on a show. We need to back the multi
camera show.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
We could do that with us every day. First time
one of us speaks this lone, because that's the way
it was on Good Times when when JJ. Every time JJ,
you know, and sometimes JJ didn't come into like the
second or third scene, but when he came in, it
was like they stopped the show.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Yeah, or Kramer on Seinfeld because we're waiting to see
how he was going to come through that door.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
Mike Donut is here. What a surprise?

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Don't you remember in the early days of Bernie, Like
Bernie didn't get here till like a seven thirty when
he was and we didn't matter what we were doing.
People who were with us in the early days remember this.
We could be doing anything and Bernie would walk in
and be.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Serious. Segment with Teresa Payton. Hey, sorry, Tersa, Bernie's here.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
Be safe out there, Bernie.

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
But it's funny. Bernie said something a few weeks ago
about it. He's like, you know, nobody ever applauds. When
I walk in the door anymore, it's okay here.

Speaker 6 (01:11:51):
Before the show starts.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
If anything, it should be the reverse now, because we
walk in when you're here, you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
For us, where's ordered first?

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Bernie affirm me News Talk eleven ten, nine to nine
to three WBT. It is Good morning BT with Boeen
Beth and that time of the week where we welcome
to the dou WBT Hotline from Winthrop University. Scott Huffman,

(01:12:22):
Professor of Political Science. Good to have you with us, sir,
glad to be with you. We've got a lot to
talk about today, and I want to start with what
is looming nationally here, And of course Friday is looming
in Alaska with this meeting between President Trump and Vladimir Putin.
But today President Trump and also the Vice President are

(01:12:44):
going to take part in a virtual meeting with Ukrainian
President Vladimir Zelenski and European allies. This is confirmed to
ABC News and several other outlets. So let me start
there first. As we get closer to the big meeting
on Friday, what about this idea of a virtual meeting
between Trump and Vance and Zelensky.

Speaker 16 (01:13:06):
Well, you know, it's sort of an attempt to appease
both sides, but it also reinforces the problem that a
lot of folks are having with Donald Trump's approach to this.
Europeans are saying, listen, you cannot have peace talks where
one of the belligerents, you know, one of the people
involved in the war isn't present. So having a virtual

(01:13:29):
meeting with the country that's being invaded and then having
a peace conference with the invading country doesn't cut it. However,
this has been Trump's kind of standard, you know, way
of operating it. He cuts deals, and he wants to
you know, cut a deal with Putin and present it
and have Zelensky be able to either accept it or

(01:13:51):
reject it, but obviously is going to pressure him to
accept it. Trump is approaching this as kind of a
real estate deal because what's going to be discussed is
whether or not Ukraine will give up territory. That is
definitely not want what the rest of Europe and our
European allies want, certainly not want Zolensky wants. It is

(01:14:13):
what Putin wants, but it's it's an interesting way to
go about this. It is not what our allies want,
but it is exactly in line with the way Trump
handles deals.

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
What do you think the likelihood is that they're going
to come up with the deal Trump and putin that
will not be accepted by the European Union, that will
not be accepted by Zelensky. And if that is the case,
then politically, what is the next step?

Speaker 16 (01:14:39):
Well, you know, anything that gives up territory to Russia,
Zolensky is almost immediately going to say no. You know
what's going to happen is there's going to be continued
of fighting. You know, the talk over a ceasefire is
really not going to go anywhere. It's not going to
hold up as long as as Ukraine is saying, listen,

(01:15:02):
we won't fall into line with these doesn't you know?
Of course, Russia invaded Crimea very early. Ukraine says you
have no right to this. This is our peninsula, and
that's going to be one of the biggest sticking points.
But you also look at the other areas that Russia
has come into. They could back off and still have
a third of what used to be Ukraine. So our

(01:15:24):
allies are going to be highly divided with us over this.
It could put a lot of pressure on NATO and
our alliances in NATO, which has been kind of the
greatest defense against the Soviet Union and now Russia. That
falls into Putin's hands. But if Donald Trump can come
out of this and say I brokeer to peace, then

(01:15:45):
that will make his supporters who did not want him
or America getting involved in foreign entanglements, that'll make them
a lot happier about it, but our allies less so.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Talking to Scott Hoffmannthrop University political science professor back on
the home front here, well, I mean technically that is
too because that's going to happen in Alaska. But this
is a domestic issue. President Trump's pick to lead the
Bureau of Labor Statistics is floating the idea of suspending
the monthly jobs reports in favor of less frequent quarterly

(01:16:19):
data published by the statistical agency. And of course, the
reason that the previous head there was ousted because President
Trump didn't like or believe that the numbers that were
released last time around were legit. This was Caroline Levitt.
She got a question during the White House Press briefing yesterday, Well,
the Bureau.

Speaker 14 (01:16:38):
Of Labor Statistics continue to put out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
A monthly job sports.

Speaker 15 (01:16:42):
Well, look what I'll tell you about the Bureau of
Labor Statistics. I believe that is the plan and that's
the hope, and that these monthly reports will be data
that the American people can trust. As you know, the
Bureau of Labor Statistics has made massive revisions after the
last several points reports that they have put out, and
there has certainly been a decline in the quality and

(01:17:04):
the reliability of data coming from the Bureau of Labor Statistics,
and there's been an increase in revisions. And this president
in the administration is finally tackling this problem that so
many have talked about and the President is actually doing
something about it. We need to restore new leadership that
we can trust. As you know, the President has appointed
someone new to take over the BLS, and so we

(01:17:24):
need to look at the means and the methods of
how the United States is acquiring this very important data.
And all of that is going to be done and
the goal, of course, is to provide honest and good
data for the American people to make very important economic decisions.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
On Doctor Huffman, what about this idea of halting them at.

Speaker 16 (01:17:42):
Least well, again, that's a good political idea, it's a
bad economic idea. There are a lot of businesses that
rely on these economic indicators monthly and so moving them
to quarterly would not be as useful for them. It
would cause our business is to be less nimble. The

(01:18:02):
data has not been less accurate. That's that's not true.
That's a political statement. And it's very understandable. Our job
numbers have been yo yoing quite a bit because of
you know, I'm going to put a tear fin I'm
not going to put a terraffin, so hiring has been questionable.
But you know, the economist running these things want to

(01:18:23):
give accurate data. That's what a lot of folks don't
understand when they claim this poll or that poll is
byas this data.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
That data.

Speaker 16 (01:18:31):
The people who are doing this want to be accurate. Now,
you may not like what the numbers say, but they're
doing their best to be accurate. And the final thing
on that is talking about changing the metrics what they measure. Now,
that may have been sort of buried in her statement,
but here's the thing. If we have looked at the

(01:18:52):
nature of jobs in America for you know, years and
years and years, using these metrics, and all of a
sudden we use very different measures, then it's no longer comparable.
We don't know whether we've improved or not, whether we've
changed or not. So this is a very political move.
It's quite understandable from Trump's position, but changing the way

(01:19:15):
it's measured and moving to a quarterly rather than monthly
would make US business a little less nimble, But again,
at this point it's Trump's purview.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
This is Good Morning Beat with both Hudson at Beth
trout Man.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Rolling on on this Wednesday morning, August thirteenth, Bowen Beth
here talking to Scott Huffman from Winthrop University.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Thank you so much for staying with us for a
second segment, Scott. And before the break, we were talking
about the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the fact that
President Trump fired the previous commissioner and has now nominated
a new commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. He
nominated a Heritage Foundation economist named EJ. Anthony. And this

(01:20:02):
is raising a lot of eyebrows and actually drawing some
criticism from some conservative economists. There's a negative consensus among
conservative economists who have said and this is a quote
that he is utterly unqualified. What do you make of
him as a selection?

Speaker 16 (01:20:22):
Well, you know, I obviously would would take the word
of the conservative economists. But the way to understand it
is to understand the Heritage Foundation. The Heritage Foundation is
a long time conservative think tank. In fact, one of
the former directors of my Survey Research Center actually ended
up becoming the head of the medium donor Calling center

(01:20:45):
for all of the Heritage Foundations. She now runs a
statewide part of another conservative think tank. But they were
a conservative organization who just happened because they're conservative, to
be involved in partisan politics. When my former senator here
in South Carolina, Jim Dement, became head of the Heritage Foundation,

(01:21:07):
they flipped. They became an incredibly partisan organization that pushed
conservative ideas that matched with the partisanship of the time.
And I think people who have been Reagan conservatives honestly
fully recognized that being a Maggat conservative is very different
than being a Reagan Conservative. So understanding the evolution of

(01:21:29):
the Heritage Foundation as a conservative think tank that ended
up pushing partisan ideas to a partisan think tank that
by default does a lot of conservative things kind of
helps understand why you have a little bit of pushback
when you probably wouldn't have had that before.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Scott, I want to play you a piece of audio
as we go hyperlocal here in listening area Edwin Peacock,
who's running for city council at large. He's the interim
District six city council member who was appointed after Tark
McCarty left, but he Edwin is now running for an
at large position. He's the last Republican and Charlotte to

(01:22:10):
serve in that position many years ago. But he was
out on the campaign trail this weekend and posted a video.
I want to play you just the beginning here. Hey,
everybody's Edwin Peacock here. I'm here in Precinct sixty seven
lands down, the neighborhood I grew up in. I'm walking
with my friend Oz Connor, my intern field director and
soon to be freshman at How Yes, sir, i's going.

Speaker 5 (01:22:31):
Guys.

Speaker 8 (01:22:32):
We're out here with Councilman Peacock, first day of his
reelection bid to at large, and we're getting some good responses,
but we're also getting you know, a lot of gardenness
among our neighbors around here.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
You want to tell them about that.

Speaker 6 (01:22:44):
No, you tell them, what do you see him?

Speaker 8 (01:22:45):
Yeah, So honestly, some people who just do not even
come to the door. They acknowledge you, but they wave
you off. And it's it's certainly, certainly quite odd that
we have some people out here who don't, you know,
want to talk with their elected officials.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
So we got into a discussion about this few days ago.
And you know, we live in the era of the
ring camera or the you know, people who can who
can see on their phone or a feed, a video
feed of someone's out their door. And the point is
is it's a different environment now to go knock door
to door as a as a as a candidate that
it used to be. And my question for you, having

(01:23:19):
played that, and you've been studying this for years and
and polling and all that, do you think that that
works anymore as a general rule if you're a candidate,
especially at the local level, knocking on doors and trying
to talk to people.

Speaker 16 (01:23:32):
It still works, but it's very very much less effective
than it has been in the past. You're absolutely right
about the era of ring cameras. People can look and see,
you know, I don't I don't want this person we've
also become much more of an insulated society. You know,
more than a decade ago, there's a book called Bowling

(01:23:52):
Alone that talked about how, you know, community organizations are
getting smaller. We are becoming sort of castles of our own.
We no longer know our neighbors. People are simply less
likely to open the door, and they will open the
door a little more often if they think, hey, this
is a normal campaign time. We're coming up on the

(01:24:14):
November election, and they're a little less likely to do
so coming up on a primary, and when they're not
familiar with elections that are going on. And I'm sorry
the people who don't listen to your program, the people
who aren't well involved in politics, are not as familiar
with this, they're not going to open the door as much. So, yes,

(01:24:35):
that is correct. It is not as effective as it
used to be, but it's still relatively effective, especially when
you can make videos like this and get them out
to nich reporters. And again, most people are not watching
their local news anymore, I'm sad to say, but they
are watching YouTube channels and things like this, where it

(01:24:57):
can pop up with very quick, already second messages or smaller,
so again, it's creating a new strategy, not just knocking
on doors, but knocking on doors and getting a message
out in a twenty first century way.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Founder and director of the Center for Public Opinion and
Policy Research, also longtime professor of political science at Winthrop University,
Scott Huffman joins us once a week. We appreciate your time, sir.

Speaker 16 (01:25:25):
I'm glad to be with you. Have a great day.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
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Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
From Me's talk eleven ten and ninety nine three WBT,
I have.

Speaker 6 (01:25:38):
Been around a long time for this has the makings
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Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Light from the darkness.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
This is Good Morning BT with both Thompson at Beth
trout Man up.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
It can't be on Deweky's talker nine oh seven on WBT.
Teresa Payton will check in with us later this hour.
We told you yesterday and this look. You don't have
to be a Taylor Swift fan to understand the magnitude

(01:26:10):
of what her name brings to whatever project she's part of.
We've seen her effect on the NFL. We have seen
the number of albums that she sold well, I said yesterday,
I don't think this is hyperbole. Tonight at seven o'clock,
Jason Kelcey and Travis Kelcey and their new Heights podcast
has a special guest. Her initials are TS and I

(01:26:34):
would not be surprised at all if after this week
is over, it becomes the most listened to podcast in
the history of podcasts, because she's never been on a
podcast before, and she announced, they announced yesterday that she's
going to be and she announced that she has a
new album coming out. And again, whether you listen to
Taylor Swift or not, it's fascinating to me to see
the effect that one person can have on whatever she touches.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Yes, she's a cultural phenomenon. She had the highest grossing
tour her eras tour that just concluded last summer, the
highest grossing tour of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
And so now, and they've already said that the clip
they released yesterday is the most viewed clip that's ever
been and so now, just a few minutes ago, Travis
and Jason Kelsey released a longer clip previewing the interview
tonight that they have with Taylor Swift and hold.

Speaker 14 (01:27:25):
Up her last album, The Torture Police Department, set a
record with one point seven six billion streams globally within
the first week alone.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
All right, in the first week.

Speaker 6 (01:27:35):
And as a fan of that guy on the Chiefs.

Speaker 14 (01:27:38):
She has nineteen wins, two AC titles, had a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Ready Violent.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
The History of Shows, Taylor.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Wow, Jason, Oh my god, look is soil has.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Left his body?

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
I'm crappy. I'm crappy.

Speaker 5 (01:28:04):
No, that was so good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
I tried to he tried screaming.

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
For like forty seven seconds. That was so nice.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
That was so welcome to Hi, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Thanks for having me on my favorite podcast. As we
all know.

Speaker 7 (01:28:16):
You know, you guys have a lot of male sports
fans that listen to your podcast, and I think we
all know that if there's one thing that male sports
fans want to see in their space isn't on their screens,
it's more of me.

Speaker 6 (01:28:30):
Wow, and there it is.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
Did he call her Tate?

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Yeah, yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
Is that a thing? Did I miss that? That was
his nickname for her? Was he always been calling her tato?

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
It's like everybody to think name for her?

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Yeah, See, I'm not cool.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
I'm not I'm not cool like the cool kids. Steve's
over there. When when I say things like that, like
do people call her Tate, Steve's over there on the corner,
like nod in his head, rolling his eyes like yes, Beth,
everyone knows.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Look, I know, every time we talk about Taylor Swift,
there's some people that listen to us. I love Taylor Swift,
can't get enough Taylor Swift. And then there are people like,
why are you talking about Taylor Swift. To me, the
fascination with it is just the phenomenon of anybody that's
been able to create something that makes anything that she
touches become an event.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
And she's kind of a genius at it. I mean.
She released the teaser for this podcast at twelve twelve
on August twelfth. This is her twelfth album, and it
had this whole kind of secret and messaging. She released
some videos online where she was walking through one of
her concert venues and she was walking through section A

(01:29:38):
twelve she drops all these weird Easter egg things and
Taylor Swift fan Swifties love it. They love looking for
the Easter eggs. And then her site when this teased.
When this was teased, her site crashed with the pre
order of the new album, which the album cover hasn't
even been released yet. We just know that orange is
one of the colors. That's something else. She's released as

(01:29:59):
a a lot of pictures of herself in orange.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Well, and if you're wondering, you know how tight is
the relationship between Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift. I mean
she she's basically saying, I'm going to use my boyfriend's
platform to make the announcement that's going to bring them
and again, it's going to bring any podcast, whether it's
Joe Rogan or any of the ones you think of,
once this happens tonight, I'm willing to bet everything that

(01:30:24):
I have that by the end of the week, when
they crunch the numbers, it'll be It'll max anything that's
ever been as far as podcasts go. That's saying something
and of itself. But I mean, this is a big
this's a business move for her because this is the
next big move from Taylor Swift. But if you're if
you're Travis Kelcey and you're looking for her to say, Okay, hey,
here's a sign that I'm serious about this relationship, I

(01:30:45):
guess this is it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
Do you remember back during the election there was that
whole conspiracy theory story about how a contract was released
and there was a contract between the agents that they
were going to break up on September twenty seventh or
something like.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
That he was going to propose at the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
Like all of these different theories about how this relationship
isn't real, you know, or that this was somehow just
designed to make the NFL more money, or to make
politics less popular, whatever, whatever the Evidently it's still going
strong and she's his tay tape you remember.

Speaker 10 (01:31:17):
Whenever you remember his jersey sales shot up when they
started dating.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
Yeah, yeah, I just feel it's.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
A win win.

Speaker 10 (01:31:23):
I mean, she's doing him a solid and I feel like,
you know, they must really like each other. They seemed
genuinely happy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Well, there's there's speculation now that I saw this last night.
I didn't see what it was, but apparently there, as
you say, she drops little easter eggs about things. Apparently
they're easter eggs and promos for this and maybe what
you'll hear tonight if you listen to it, that will
give you a clue that she they're close to getting
engaged or something like that. But I mean, look, the NFL,

(01:31:49):
we've seen what her just sitting in the stands does
to the interest level in an NFL game, and the
NFL can't ignore that because it brings people all any
business entity out there, especially in their entertainment realm. The
whole trick is to bring in people that wouldn't normally
watch what you're watching and then hook them and keep

(01:32:11):
them to That's why the super Bowl is such a
valuable entity to whatever network that it's on, is because
it commands the most viewers, and so whatever you have
coming up, that's why they put their either their their
best show or the show they want to become a
hit after the super Bowl, because you're trying to take
the medium or the vehicle and then take some of
those fans and retain them. So nothing different tonight. You know,

(01:32:35):
Travis Kelcey and Jason kelce are never going to have
to worry about promotion again and the history of their
life because they will bring people to that podcast tonight
that care nothing about you know, football.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
Well, everybody's going to know about the podcast. People who
had no idea that Travis kelce had a podcast are
now going to listen to Travis Kelsey's podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
I don't think it's hyperbole to say I keep using
that word hyperbole. I don't think it's exaggeration to say
that this is This is akin to a network having
the Super Bowl, because can you imagine another vehicle, whether
it's on TV or digital or whatever, where you could say, Okay,
how can I get the most people to know about
my new product or my new podcast. Taylor Swift comes

(01:33:16):
on and makes an album announcement and does a I
don't know how long about an hour interview. I would
I would assume.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
You think we could get her for the seventeenth segment.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Yeah, next week though, next week?

Speaker 4 (01:33:25):
Yeah's already.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
Once this kind of clears then right, that would be
right next yeah, and then she can release another album. Hey,
what's up?

Speaker 7 (01:33:33):
How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
Fan bam?

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
I don't know what it means, but I like it.

Speaker 8 (01:33:37):
Hey, how are you hi?

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
We're great your news show. It's fun to listen to.
This is Good Morning BET.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
Nine twenty on WBT.

Speaker 8 (01:33:49):
See.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
I knew this would happen because Taylor Swift is one
of those names that if you say it, you elicit
a myriad of different responses, and I've been doing this
show long enough I know what they're going to be. Look,
I grew up with a daughter who loves Taylor Swift.
I also grew up as a guy who loves all

(01:34:10):
forms of music and was fascinated by popular music growing
up in the charts. And you know how often I
talk about Casey Kaseum. So I'm fascinated when you have
somebody come along along the lines of Michael Jackson, or
the Rolling Stones, or just the Mount rushmore of the Beatles,
of the performers that can just move the needle by
being them because of what they've done. And Taylor Swift

(01:34:33):
is that for this generation, doesn't There's not no commentary
on whether I like her music or not.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
I do like a lot of her music.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
Some of her music I don't, But you can't deny
the power she has as a performer based on what
she's done and been able to do. But we always
get these texts and right on cue, I couldn't name
a single song by Taylor Swift. Well, congratulations, you don't
listen to Taylor Swift. I don't care, but ye, And
then he goes the world infatuation with her shows how

(01:35:02):
far we have fallen as a society. I don't know
how that's true. I mean, you like who you like.
You like various artists. That doesn't mean that if you
like somebody that I don't like, then the world's falling apart.

Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
And I would argue that she is actually relatively wholesome.

Speaker 10 (01:35:16):
Well, even in that clip, she's very self deprecating, saying
I know that a lot of your fans want to
see more of me. If she's very self aware that
people do not love seeing Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
On their screen when they're watching football.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
When theyre watching a football podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
But this is Tim. Let me finish what Tim says here.
I actually can't believe reputable media outlets would even cover
her laughable. Well, that statement's laughable when you have the
most powerful artist of her time. I'm not going to
ignore when something happens when she releases an album anymore
than I'd ignore if your favorite music act who was

(01:35:50):
of similar comparison would be. I mean, we report the news.
I know a lot of people get turned off by
Taylor Swift because they think about it in political terms,
and I know Trump doesn't like Taylor Swift and to me.
I've always been the guy that said, look, I don't
listen to music because of politics. I listen to music
because I like how it sounds. You know. Let me

(01:36:12):
finish with tim here.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Stop it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
The NFL doesn't need Taylor Swift for ratings. If they
needed her, then their product isn't good enough to stand alone.
They don't need gimmicks. Real NFL fans don't like it
and turn the channel when she's shown at the game.
I'm sorry, but if you're an NFL fan that calls
yourself an NFL fan and you turn the channel from
the game because of somebody sitting in the stand that's

(01:36:34):
shown for two seconds, then I would say that you're
not a real NFL fan. That's just bizarre to me.
I mean, the NFL doesn't need Taylor Swift, but let
me tell you the guy is sitting around the table
that are crunching the numbers, that are trying to get
as many eyes on their product as they can. They

(01:36:54):
like having Taylor Swift because Taylor Swift does what she's
going to do to that podcast tonight, which is bring
in people that normally wouldn't care at all about your product.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
Yeah, there might be a lot of young girls who
maybe have been haven't thought about sports or haven't thought
about football, and maybe they're watching to see that relationship
and then they become football fans. Maybe they weren't introduced
to football until Taylor switch.

Speaker 10 (01:37:14):
And there's been a movement in the past decade. And
I don't know if you guys have noticed the NFL
are catering more to women.

Speaker 4 (01:37:19):
To women.

Speaker 10 (01:37:20):
They have NFL women jerseys like they have they have
so many things for women, trying to include them in
the game. So I feel like when they see something
like Taylor's, why why wouldn't they hop on this when
that's clearly one of their mos is to try to,
you know, get more people engaged in football, not just
you know, men you know who are like me, but
people who wouldn't necessarily like football.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
I don't know, sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
Well, And in regards to the news.

Speaker 14 (01:37:45):
Aspect of it and it being news, I mean, we
have multiple monitors here in the in the building, from
Fox News to ABC, NBC and CBS, they're all on
every single monitor. At one point this morning and yesterday
morning when the initial teaser you know, had dropped, they
are at least once an hour on each of these

(01:38:07):
screens Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
So it is definitely newsworthy.

Speaker 14 (01:38:12):
And just like I mean, there's always a dominant pop star,
there's multiple dominant pop stars. I mean bo you mentioned
Michael Jackson, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, I mean Madonna,
you know, Beyonce, Britney Spears.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
We've got these dominant.

Speaker 14 (01:38:26):
Pop stars always that are newsworthy and pop culture at
the same time. And Taylor Swift has basically been that
dominant pop star now for going on a decade, almost
fifteen years. When I first got started in commercial radio
and we were playing her first album, like the country
songs off of her first album on a pop station.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
That was the beginning of it. And that's when she
was still a teenager. Well, look, it always happens this way.
Anytime I talk about Taylor Swift, do we go down
the road of Taylor Swift. I already hear in my
head some of the responses about us talking about Taylor Swift.
If you've listened to this show, you realize, I hope
by now that everything we do is not based on politics.

(01:39:12):
It is a lot when we have political stories to
talk about. But just because I mentioned Taylor Swift, that
doesn't that's not a political statement. As much as some
of you want to make it that way, That's not
the way I view music. That's not why I listen
to music. And if listening to or mentioning Taylor Swift
to you is a knock against somebody else, or it's
a political statement that says more, that's more about you

(01:39:34):
than it is me.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
I think you should keep politics out of sports on
music though, right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
I tried to Bernie, I try to. But look, I
as much as I'm fascinated by Taylor Swift, I'm fascinated
by Donald Trump. I'm fascinated by people who have built
brands that move mountains, and Donald Trump is one. They're
not the only two, but they're two of the highest
profile what President Trump has been able to do. You know, again,

(01:39:57):
take politics out of it, just talk about the the
fact that as a brand, as a person, the amount
of people that he whose attention he captures is fascinating.
Taylor Swift in a different lane is much the same way.
And I could make you a list of ten or
fifteen other people, and those are the kind of people
that I think from a standpoint of attention, make the

(01:40:19):
world go round now, And sometimes We've talked about this before,
the name of the game is to you know, people
can like you, people can hate you, but what you
don't want is for people to be bored by it, right,
I mean, that's entertainment right there. So if you think
about things that we talk about, it comes down to
is it interesting, is it not boring? Not? Is it

(01:40:41):
right or is it left. I understand we're on a
station that leans very heavy in political discussion, and we
do when the time is right. But just because we
mentioned Taylor Swift today, that's that doesn't mean this should
tell you who I'm going to go vote for. It
tells you that I'm fascinated by pop culture, as I
am fascinated with many other things. And now I will

(01:41:03):
politely get off my soapbox and move on to the
next thing.

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
Well, and in reality, pop culture plays a big role
in politics these days, and there are people who who
will inevitably talk about the actors or singers that they
hate because they come out that have a political stance
against their own personal views. But then they also at
the same time come out and cheer for the ones
who come out and say that they do share their

(01:41:28):
political views, Like right now, everybody who is conservative or
a big supporter of Donald Trump and his policies are
very excited about Dean Kane, you know, for volunteering to
work with ICE. But those are sometimes the same people
who say, you know, if you're an actor, you shouldn't
be talking about politics, or if you're a musician, you
shouldn't be talking about politics. But it seems now these

(01:41:49):
days that we only want to celebrate the actors or
performers who talk about the politics we agree with, and
I don't think that that's necessarily helpful or constructive in
any way, shape or form. We talk on this show
often about polarization and how the key and the cure
for the polarized nation that we live in is effective
conversation and is letting people figure out what they think

(01:42:12):
about issues instead of telling people what to think about issues.
And if we can all get to a place where
we aren't offended by someone's political views and more so
think about them as human beings, or we're going to
be in a much much better place as a society
if we find ways to accept and appreciate each other.

(01:42:35):
But have effective conversations.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
So Taylor Swift will be on the New Heights podcast tonight.
Listen to it or don't. We don't care. We just
want you to know what's out there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
So you have options to listen to our podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Yeah, seventeenth segment.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
Oh yeah, that's better than Taylor.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
So to do that, I mean, come on, hey, we're
going to try to get her. We're going to try
to get her Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Oh, good, listen.

Speaker 11 (01:42:55):
I'm a grumpy old man. When I open my eyes
in the morning, I'm angry and I'm miserable. And then
I start listening to your show and I start laughing,
and you guys are great.

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Look if we can turn Curmudgeons into two happy people,
that's what it's all about.

Speaker 11 (01:43:11):
Hey, this is turning into a world class city.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Oh I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
Yeah, I thought he was gonna say this is turning
into a world class interview.

Speaker 5 (01:43:20):
I was here at first.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
I got just as much right up to here as.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
You go, final stretch. We walked from here. You don't
know what that is. No, I don't even know if
it was in the actual movie, but in the old

(01:43:48):
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom video game there's
this point where he goes, we walk from here.

Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
I played that video game. I have no memory of
that ever. No, I don't have a memory of it ever. No,
but I did play the game. I remember I remember
the game, but yeah I don't. I don't remember that
we walk from here. You played the game, But I've
been played by the game. I have been played by
the game. Yeah. Now I'm here to expose it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
Only one thing left to do, now you know what
that is? Just play the game.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
How do you have this?

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
This is the greatest I loved this game.

Speaker 4 (01:44:37):
Wow, sounds like they're talking into a broken microphone.

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
Now you're playing the game both, Hey, no, no, I
just wanted you to know that if you ever needed
to play the game, we can always play the game.
We could play any number of games if we get bored,
you know, especially for you, Beth. How about this?

Speaker 4 (01:44:57):
Are you saying I get bored easily? It's Burger Time.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
We get bored sometimes.

Speaker 6 (01:45:08):
This is what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
Burger Time is the best game. I kind of want
to you know how you see those memes online of
people sitting at a table that and it has an
opinion like Burger Time is the the greatest game of
all time, change my mind. And they're sitting behind like
a folding table. I would absolutely sit in Central Park
with that sign on my table. Burger Time is the
greatest video game of all time. Change my mind.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
Uh, okay, I'll change your mind right now.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
Now, Burger Time was better.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
You have made burgers, Yeah, but that you can't eat.
It's okay, just watch them get made. But you don't
get the payoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
But I bet, I bet, I bet Burger Joints saw
an increase in sales when Burger Time came out because
you get hungry after you make so many burgers.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
All right, I'm playing the game anyway, five minutes or
four ten o'clock here on WBT, if you left over items.
I love this, Beth says. As we're coming back, she says, oh,
what about that story about Steve's Homeland.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
That's why I said we're gonna make We're gonna end
the show I'm making fun of Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
Steve's Homeland is like Steve is on a pilgrimage to
Charlotte and he's finally gotten here.

Speaker 14 (01:46:17):
Every morning I make the venture all the way from
South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
Well, you will be not thrilled to know Steve. South
Carolina ranked among the worst states to live in, according
to a new study.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
I believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
You do well.

Speaker 14 (01:46:36):
I mean there are there are definitely things about living
in South Carolina that are not wonderful. There are things
that I do appreciate, like, for example, I've never had
to have my car inspected since I moved here.

Speaker 4 (01:46:49):
Well, that would Your state did rank highly in affordability.
No one really wanted to live there, but it's affordable.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
Oh wow, it ranked tonight Wow, shots fire.

Speaker 4 (01:47:01):
No, I'm not. This isn't my study. I did not
do this study. In fact, I'm looking for exactly who
did this study.

Speaker 14 (01:47:08):
I was going to say, the affordability is great if
you don't live on the outskirts of Charlotte's.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
It was wallet hub wallet hub study.

Speaker 14 (01:47:16):
Well, wallet Hub obviously didn't get like my neighborhood because
the affordability is basically as if I was in you know, Charlotte.
I mean, technically I could stand on my balcony and
throw a rock into North Carolina. So it's not like
I'm that deep into South.

Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
Carolina that Carol wins no at the border.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
Right right, No, but it's funny because when I.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Was funny in my head, it was more than one
border in my well.

Speaker 14 (01:47:41):
My in my previous job, which was also located in
South Carolina, I would cross the North Carolina South Carolina
state line five times between my house and my job.
My house being in South Carolina, my job also being
in South Carolina, I would cross the state line five
times on my drive to and from work.

Speaker 4 (01:47:58):
That's kind of fun Well. Wallet hub compared all fifty
states across five key dimensions, using fifty one different metrics
to determine overall livability, and Massachusetts actually topped all of
the states, followed by Idaho, New Jersey, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.
North Carolina landed at twenty second overall. South Carolina landed

(01:48:21):
at forty fourth overall.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
Don't you mean Steve's homeland?

Speaker 4 (01:48:24):
Steve's homeland was at forty fourth overall.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
Real quick a seven O four five, seven, eleven to ten,
Paul said, Hey, after the mine car ride is when
he says it, okay, so listen coming down, you're gonna
hear it. Come on, I promise he says it. There

(01:48:50):
was we walked from here. Yeah, it's that eight bit midy.

Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
It sounded like it's.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
But see, Paul, I was looking for the SoundBite not
too long ago, and I went to the actual movie
and I couldn't find it. I went to the minecart
scene and I couldn't find that. We walked from here.

Speaker 4 (01:49:08):
It sounded like you said, it's in my ear.

Speaker 3 (01:49:10):
Yeah, we've walked for who Hey, you asked me where
it came from. I told you we walk from here.

Speaker 4 (01:49:17):
Steve, can you walk back to South Carolina from here?

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:49:20):
From here to your homeland?

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Yes, Steve's gonna go back to somewhere by the time
I make it home. Off to turn around and come back.
All right, that's the end of our show. We got
to start hiking back to our homelands. Thank you, Beth.
Good talk both Yes, good talk Beth.

Speaker 5 (01:49:32):
I'm still here, and I'm staying here at New York.

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
I'm staying here.

Speaker 4 (01:49:38):
The Frogs stand.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
You've been listening to Good Morning BT here us live
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eleven ten nine to nine point three.

Speaker 4 (01:49:48):
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Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
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