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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I want roots, cheerios, you eat cheerios.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I want just follow my mouse from US Talk eleven
ten and ninety nine three double ee beet.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
This is a wheel of four dollars?

Speaker 4 (00:11):
Who has Andrea dry?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is good Morning Beatty with Bo Thompson at Beth Trout.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
But thank you having the high school band for that
eloquent selection.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's stigging a toll on me, trying my best toogie
from tapping the skin on my bones.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Don't you know.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Who?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Show when your n next?

Speaker 5 (00:44):
I'm falling apart, ride in front of your candle fee.

Speaker 6 (00:51):
Boos, show.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
When you're not next to me?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Did you wake him?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Baby?

Speaker 4 (01:08):
It was only two days that we were all apart.
Back together again.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I messed a mischief.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Good morning to everybody, Hello and best Hello yours truly.

Speaker 7 (01:25):
Hello.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Sir Stephen of Anthony is doing double duty today because
Bernie is under the weather. Good Morrow, Goodmorrow, everybody. Have
a good weekend.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
Busy, busy by so quick, it's almost like I didn't
have a whole weekday.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm losing control, speaking of I thought for months maybe
that this was Chris Stapleton.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It is not, Oh Scotch Tale like that.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I never thought of that.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
It is Teddy Swims.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Does Stapleton have a version of this? No, No, it
just has that flavor.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
It's just got that grit.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, it was soulful.

Speaker 8 (02:04):
We were talking about this before before we went on
the air today. When I first heard this song, I
was like, Oh, Alex Claire has a new tune, which
is another one.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
That has this.

Speaker 8 (02:13):
He's just got that same kind of really soulful, gritty sound.
And I was like, Oh, it's an Alex Claire song,
and then realize, yeah, no, this is a totally different dude.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
But like you know how at the Grammys they'll pair
people that aren't people you'd think would beat together, Like
I feel like I've heard Chris Stapleton sing this, or
maybe like you guys say, it's just sounds so close,
Like I wonder if they've ever paired Teddy Swims and
or maybe they will. Maybe this will be coming up
in February if they.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Did pair, I missed the post. If they did pair
Chris Stapleton and Teddy Swims, you'd be like, wait, which
one's singing?

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Are you just throwing post belone? Because he has sung
with literally everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, there you go. Just put a post alone in there.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Zochie was in Houston this weekend. You know, every time
you go to Houston, I always think of one of
my favorite movies from Childhood two where he says, take
us to the planet Houston, Houston, And it just so
happens that over the weekend the guy that said that
played Zod, Terrence Stamp who played General Zod, and Superman
two passed away. And uh and and here's the thing.

(03:14):
I was looking back at some some footage last night
of Superman two because I really that's one of those
movies like Jaws too, that I know every line of.
And but I miss something as a kid that I
just noticed last night. See when the three villains, which
General Zode is the is the the Leader, the Leader,
come to Earth to battle Superman. The first thing they

(03:35):
encounter when they go on the moon is astronauts and
they're talking to Houston. Yeah, you know, it's Houston. We
have a problem, that kind of thing. So they think
it's the planet Houston. And then I always thought they
went to Houston, Texas. They actually landed in East Houston, Idaho.
Did you know that existed?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, well, of course, you know, it was Houston, Idaho.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
But I'm watching back at last night and they go
to this really small town and I'm thinking, all these years,
I thought that was supposed to be Houston, Texas. And
so anyway, it's like.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Boy, this place has really grown over the years.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
You've been to Houston, right, Yeah, it is the most
sprawling I won't say nothing to see here. It's got
like big parts of it as far as like downtowny
looking parts, but there's no it doesn't feel like there's
like one downtown. It's just like this sprawling thing of
here's a bunch of buildings, and then you drive thirty minutes,
here's another bunch of building.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
You're still in Houston the whole time.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, Yeah. It's just kind of like you wonder how
when you've got to sit a city, when you have
a state as big as Texas, I think you just
r whatever you want.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
It's all interstate and stuff. It's just everything like I
think people live off interstates. It's like there are no
roads in Houston.

Speaker 9 (04:39):
Who else is seeing this?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Ah?

Speaker 10 (04:42):
Well, with the satellite link, just about everybody. I mean,
the whole planet, the whole planet Houston, Earth, the whole
planet Earth.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
The whole movie Houston, Take us to the planet Houston.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
You know, looking back at that, those villains, I mean
you have the leader Zod, and then you have the
we scary woman Versa, and then the mute guy None,
which is a bread.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
You know in uh yeah, although you're not talking. Non
is a perfect that's true nonverbal.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
And he done like has has his his powers are
not fully realized yet.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Like when he tries to shoot the tiny little lasers,
like the tiny lasers right out of his eyes he
has little lasers and then uh, he just the whole time.
What a great role. Though, if you're the actor that
gets hired to do that, you learn no lines and
you just get paid to stand there.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
I saw a post part teller by him the other day,
because you know, a lot of these people who are
villains and movies like that, like go to these comic
con I mean, they make they make their living based
on going and appearing and signing things. And he saw
a picture of him the other day and he's, hey,
he's looking a little older.

Speaker 11 (05:50):
Well.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I was shocked to find out that Zod was eighty
seven eighty seven when he passed away over the weekend,
because in my brain. He was also I don't know
if you get do you guys remember Pla Queen of
the Desert, Yes, the late nineties.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I am the only other one room Heep take Over.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
It got tons of like Oscar nominations and stuff like that.
But he was in that film as one of the
cross dressers. Oh yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Read bought twist there. I remember him this way, all right.
I tried to. It's turned down. That didn't work for
let's try this again. Roll back five seconds. I remember
him this way.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Come forward, Your general wishes to speak.

Speaker 9 (06:30):
I am General Zod, your ruler. Yes, today begins a
new order. Your lands, your possessions, your very lives will
gladly be given in tribute to me.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
So anyway, long live, or should I say rest in peace?
Not long live? He passed away yesterday. As Bess said
in his eighties Terence Stamp.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Terrance Stamp, I don't think that I ever knew his
his his name as to me, he's Zod exactly as
both said, He's Zod. That's his character because it was
such a part of my.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Youth news talk eleven ten WBT. Now today's a big
day in Washington. The second I mean, Friday was a
huge day in Anchorage because of the Putin Trump summit,
and today really part two of what happened on Friday,
because Vladimir Zelensky and a number of European leaders are
headed to the White House. So a lot of talk
about this on the Sunday shows yesterday. Will recapture some

(07:29):
of that for you coming up, and also at the
bottom of the hour, our own Nick Craig, who hosts
the Carolina Journal News Hour, sent me a picture of
him and someone else on Saturday night, a rather festive occasion.
I'm gonna I'll let you know who that is. You'll
know immediately when I start playing the music. But to
Nick Craig, saw one of our good buddies on Saturday

(07:49):
night and actually not one, several.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Several of our good buddies, and I can't wait to
hear all about it.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, he sent me a picture, said he was impressed.
So that's coming up later in the show. And Mick
mulvaney in the final hour today. Of course, ahead of
this big meeting at the White House, lots to talk about.
Carolina Panthers are zero to two in the preseason. We'll
get more from zoke on that good morning.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
This is good Morning BT.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Six News Talk eleven ten, nine to nine to three
WBT Bowen Beth on a Monday morning. One o'clock today
is when Vladimir Lensky, along with numerous other European leaders
are going to meet with President Trump. Of course, everybody
immediately thinks back to the meeting a few months ago

(08:36):
in the Oval Office with Vladimir's Lensky that ended and such,
you know, dramatic fashion, And we'll see what happens today.
But the stakes are high once again. They were on Friday,
and we saw how that all played out, and that's
been the talk all weekend, and then it shifted towards Okay,
now President Trump has invited Zelensky back to the White

(08:58):
House for the first time since that all happened, and
one o'clock today is when that will begin, and we'll
see how long that takes to play out.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
And the leaders of the EU, several as you were
saying from the EU, including Emmanuel Macron, are coming to
join Zelenski at the White House for this conversation. And
we saw what happened on Friday. We saw that the
red carpet was rolled out for President Vladimir Putin, and

(09:26):
we do. We've seen interviews with President Trump. He sat
down with Sean Hannity after this meeting with Putin. But
the I think the big story that happened on Friday
after this meeting was the immediate response from the news
media when the meeting ended. The immediate response was not

(09:48):
a positive one.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
So he rolled out the red carpet. As you said,
there were niceties exchanged on the red carpet. Then he
got into the to the beast vehicle they call it,
the two of them together, and we're seen talking and
then onto the site of the summit. And as Beth
was saying, there was a lot of talk after it
was over about what happened in that room. Now, President

(10:10):
Trump has went on kind of a burner last night
a round eight o'clock, started texting or should I say
truth socialing, and a number of messages in a short
amount of time. I'll read you the first one. He said.
The fake news has been saying for three days that
I suffered a major defeat by allowing President Vladimir Putin
of Russia to have a major summit in the United States. Actually,

(10:30):
he would have loved doing the meeting anywhere but the
US and the fake news knows this. It was a
major point of contention. If we had the summit elsewhere,
the Democrat run and controlled media would have said that
a terrible thing. That was these people are sick. They
even want crime in DC and other blue cities throughout
our country. But don't worry. I won't let that happen.
Just like our now secure southern border, zero illegals in

(10:53):
the last three months, our cities will be secure and safe,
and DC will lead the way. That was at eight
h three pm last night, had four or five more
after that. I want to go earlier in the day though,
Here Beth and uh, let's go to CBS Face the
Nation now. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, made the
rounds yesterday. He was on three different Sunday morning programs.

(11:14):
This is one of the exchanges.

Speaker 12 (11:15):
You know, there is concern from the Europeans that President
Zelensky is going to be bullied into signing something away.
That's why you have these European leaders coming as back
up tomorrow. Can you no?

Speaker 4 (11:27):
It is that's real?

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Sure, that's not true, but that's not why why that's
not true? They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky
from being bullied.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
They're not very old. They're coming here tomorrow.

Speaker 12 (11:38):
The television cameras where President Zelenski.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
You know how many meetings you?

Speaker 12 (11:42):
Oh, no, I know, And I was just up the
one with Vladimir Putin where a red carpet rules ruled.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
We've had more meetings we've had We've had We've had
one meeting with Putin and like a dozen meetings with Zelensky. So,
but that's not true. They're not coming here tomorrow to
keep Zelensky from being bullied. They're coming here to because
we've been working with the Europeans. We talked to them
last week. There were meetings in the UK over the
follow the previous.

Speaker 12 (12:04):
Weekend, and they said.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
As early as Thursday.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
But you said that they're coming here tomorrow to keep
Zelensky for being bullied. They're not coming here tomorrow. Oh,
this is such a stupid media narrative that they're coming
here tomorrow because the Trump is going to bully Lensky
into a bad deal. We've been working with these people
for weeks, for weeks on this stuff. They're coming here
tomorrow because they chose to come here tomorrow. We invited
them to come. We invited them to come, The President

(12:30):
invited them to come.

Speaker 12 (12:31):
But the President told those European leaders last week that
he wanted to ceasefire. The President went on television said
he would walk out of the meeting if Vladimir Putin
didn't agree with on He said there would be severe
consequences if he didn't agree to one. He said he'd
walk out in two minutes. He spent three hours talking
to Vladimir Putin and then he did not get one.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
So there's obviously something things happened during that meeting. Well,
because obviously things look Our goal here is not to
stage some production for the world to say, oh, how
dramatic he walked out. Our goal here is to have
a peace agreement to end this war, Okay. And obviously
we felt and I agreed, that there was enough progress,
not a lot of progress, but enough progress made in
those talks to allow us to move to the next phase.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
If not, we wouldn't be having.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Zelenski flying all the way over here. We wouldn't be
having all the Europeans coming all the way over here.
Now understand and take with a grain of salt. I'm
not saying we're on the verge of a piece deal,
but I am saying that we saw movement, enough movement
to justify a follow up meeting with Zelensky and the Europeans,
enough movement for us to dedicate even more time to this.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
So that was on CBS. Zelenski will be at the
White House today and seven other dignitaries, including Emmanuel McCrone
from France. You'll have Georgia Maloney from Italy. You'll have
a leader of the European Union from the European Union,
representative from NATO, Germany, Finland and the UK. So this

(13:49):
is going to be interesting, this contingent that's going to
be assembled there.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
And I think one of the things people will be
looking at now is the body language post this particular meeting,
because that was the big conversation on Friday. As soon
as the conversation with Vladimir Putin ended, reporters from across
news networks, and not just networks like NBC, but NBC's

(14:13):
White House correspondent Peter Alexander, who was in Alaska for
this summit. He said that people like Caroline Levitt and
Steve Whitkoff came out wide eyed looking ashen, and that
it was an uncomfortable feeling. The reporter for Fox News

(14:33):
even remarked on the body language of people as they
came out of the conversation with Putin, and she even suggested,
and this is the Fox News correspondent even suggested that
she was concerned that Putin had steamrolled and these are
her words, not mine, steamrolled the president.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
You're talking about, Jackie Heinrich. He who was in the
press corps for that trip. A couple of other truth
social postings from President Trump before we go to the
news said last night, following the one, I just read,
big day at the White House tomorrow. Never had so
many European leaders at one time. My great honor to
host them. President DJT as he signs it, also said
the fake news We'll say, this is a big loss

(15:12):
for President Trump to host so many great European leaders
at our beautiful White House. Actually it is a great
honor for America. So but he, like I said before,
had four or five in a row there last night.
As he was taking to his own social media platform,
we will cover this for you throughout the day. We
expect the meeting to start at the White House around
one pm, take mid thrift in Wait, okay, wait a minute, I.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Just I'm so glad that that was an accident. We
have to get to that at some point because our
buddies have a new song out and we can get
to that later. But our other buddies had a big
performance in Wilmington, North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
That sounded something like this.

Speaker 13 (15:58):
Dude, Dude's book I Don't Know, Wisdom be and suits,
ships of the Loneless Sailors, last time of Weed, and
talk of about the home.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
So this is audio from Sun a year ago on
the balcony of the beach Shaquaney.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
It was actually almost exactly a year ago because it
was August sixteenth.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
North Myrtle Beach, Thurston Howe. Our good buddies see our
favorite yacht rock band came in performed for us live
there at your dad's house. And then I get a
picture this weekend, late Saturday night, and it's a picture
of cam Love and one Nick Craig, who joins us

(16:48):
right now. Nick Craig of the Carolina Journal News Hour.
You hear him every day right before us, and I
heard that this might happen on Saturday because Thurst and
Halle had to stop in Wilmington, and sure enough Nick Craig,
who is a yacht rock officionado himself.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Oh now this, I'm not sure that I knew about
mister one Nick Craig.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
What's up?

Speaker 11 (17:09):
Nick?

Speaker 14 (17:09):
Can I become the official like yacht rock correspondent for
Good Morning become?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:14):
We're fighting over there, Nick, you and Be we're gonna
have to.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
There's some fisticuffs about who's going to be the yacht
rock officionado on the show.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Had you had you ever seen Thurston Howell before? No?

Speaker 11 (17:25):
I had not.

Speaker 14 (17:25):
Apparently they'd been here the last two years down in Wilmington.
Was not aware. I heard you guys had them in
studio a couple months ago with when they were going
through Charlotte, did a couple of shows there, and then
saw on their calendar they were here in Wilmington, so
we stopped by.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
They came in the morning after we did a late
night debate, Beth and I. I moderated a debate for
what were then the District eight congressional candidates, and we
were out really really late that night.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
We both slept about forty five minutes. I was so tired,
Nick that I forgot my shoes. I had on bedroom
slippers and didn't realize it until I got to work.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
And so we were like running on fumes that next morning,
had no idea what we were in for. And we
had invited Thurston Howe to come in the studio and
they came in and they were unbelievable, and so that
sort of began a friendship that led to them performing
at Beth's dad's place that the following summer, and they've
come in several times before, but they are I mean,

(18:19):
cam Love is a legend in his own right, and
then he joined forces with his buddies there in the
band and his wife and they're the greatest people. But
to see them in action, we saw them at the
Horseshoe down at North Myrtle Beach. And so you saw them?
Where did you see them? What was the venue? Saturday Night?

Speaker 14 (18:37):
There's an indoor venue in downtown Wilmington. It's a bar
restaurant called Bowstring, and they host throughout the summer and
into the fall and spring months. They host concerts on
Friday and Saturday night. So it was a large indoor
venue actually an old Coca Cola bottling facility here in
downtown Wilmington and they packed the house. It was a
it was standing room only for the for the entire night.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Oh that's so fieantastic. Now, as a yacht rock aficionado, Nick,
what did you think of their performance and what was
your favorite yacht rock song they performed?

Speaker 14 (19:10):
The performance was great and I love the amount of
crowd work that they do is really fantastic. I mean,
that's a pretty common thing in live music. I'd say
that they're probably above the average in terms of the
crowd work. They're throwing things into the crowd and really
getting the individuals at the show involved. So the crowd
work was top notch. And as a major Steely Dan
fan Peg, they did their rendition of Peg, which I

(19:34):
absolutely loved.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Did you dance?

Speaker 11 (19:36):
I did?

Speaker 14 (19:36):
Absolutely?

Speaker 7 (19:37):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I feel like we need to hang out more in
social settings with Nick Craig.

Speaker 14 (19:42):
Are you buying?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Absolutely? First round sounds.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Great First rounds on me? So, Nick, you sent me
a picture with you and Cam. So did you go
up and tell them who you were and that you
worked for BT and all that stuff?

Speaker 11 (19:55):
I did?

Speaker 14 (19:55):
I said, the only reason we're here is because we
heard we heard it on Bow and Beth on Good
Morning BT, which is accurate statement.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Oh that just takes us thrilled.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Well, yeah, next time we do something with them, and
we're always looking for reasons. Uh, we'll have to get
you involved in that and maybe maybe it'll be we
come down where you are because you're you're closer to
the yacht rock scene than we are. And and finally
Bruce hornsby yacht rock or No, I think that's going
to be a notch, but there you go.

Speaker 11 (20:23):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Oh, sorry, you know what I think we need to
do instead of.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
He thinks he thinks that's bad. No, that's good. I've
said all along he's not yacht rock.

Speaker 14 (20:31):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, I've said all along that he Yeah, there's an
official website.

Speaker 14 (20:37):
I don't know if you guys have been to the
yacht rock website. You can type in a song and
it will tell you whether it's yacht rocker or not.
It's a very very tight group of people.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Well, congratulations on joining the Thurston Hall Fan Club and
it's good to talk to you, and we'll talk to
you as uh as Cam would say, we'll talk to
you unhooked the jib on the sleeve and we'll talk
to you down the line.

Speaker 14 (20:56):
Nick, Thanks, guys, appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yea man. And by the way, Nick is in for
events Cokeley today, so you'll hear them in just a
little while.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Oh fantastic, Nick. Next time we come down to the coast,
maybe we should do a show live from Nick's Wilmington abode.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
I think, well eight Rights Full Beach in Wilmington area.
There's plenty of places we could go, so we'll do that.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
We just invited ourselves, Nick.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
That's right. We'll see it soon, you guys.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
It'll come back.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
To how did I know that Nick Craig loved this song?

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I feel like this this sound this is like on
a monopoetic in a way that if you if you
looked up Nick Craig in an audio dictionary, is that
a thing? This is what would play it is? Now
this song sounds like he looks.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Six forty three on WBT. Now that's a song.

Speaker 15 (21:49):
I know.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Boomers walked up before little Steely Dan on Magic ninety
six a few times. Yes, that's to go.

Speaker 16 (21:57):
Theys spent a lot of time in Charlotte Steeley.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
The members of Steely Dan.

Speaker 16 (22:00):
They used to have a big thing with I think
Reflection studios do a lot of work around. Yeah, they
would rop in do with some fashion work and they
had quite a quite a relationship with Charlotte, North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
They're great.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Love's from Queen City.

Speaker 11 (22:15):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
But they look the wake Forest dephen Deacons. We know
that deacon blues.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
The Deacon blues. That's it, Jim, you're all over it.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, you're all.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Over first and hell come on now. Oh yeah, I'm
glad that he met Cam. Cam is the man. We
love Cam. Cam's great guy and all the rest of
the group. And yes, they really are seven now in
front of seven o'clock on WBT. Fewer young people are
meeting these five milestones typically associated with adulthood. Number one

(22:52):
moving out of the house away from the parents. Number two,
getting a job, number three, getting married, number four having
a child, number five completing your education.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
You just got through five things in less than thirty
five seconds.

Speaker 11 (23:10):
I know.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
We'll see on Tuesday, folks. It's been a great Shno.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
So basically they haven't done anything. There's stayed teenagers.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
But it's getting less and less likely that all five
of those will be achieved within the frame of reference
or time. That maybe we associated those things being done
with this, according to CBS News, But the one that's
still the one of those five that is done with

(23:37):
the most regularity still is number five, completing an education.
But some of the other things listed here are not
necessarily considered milestones the way they once were by the
younger generations. The getting married and the having a child
part is not as common as it once was as
a milestone that sort of separates you from from dependence

(23:59):
on your pa parents to independence and to the working
or at least adult world.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Well, it makes you wonder what the thought process is
surrounding it. Is it because the quality of life is
so much more difficult to achieve as far as owning
a home or having your own space before you have
your family or before you think about having a family.
But when it comes to family leave and health care

(24:26):
and having time to bond with a child, the United
States ranks near the bottom of developed nations around the
world when it comes to having things like quality time
in parental leave both maternal and fraternal says.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Researchers measured changes in the achievement of individual milestones. While
one quarter of young adults achieved all four milestones, twenty
eight percent met two economic milestones that we'd be moving
out of their parents' homes and finding jobs. The addition
of women to the workforce has changed up the other
parts of this. In the nineteen seventies, getting married, having

(25:06):
a child, and living independently were the second most common
group of milestones that young people achieved, next to the
completion of all four. But with women's gains in the
workplace and changing cultural attitudes, this has led this combination
of milestones to become less popular.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Well, I think that a lot of I know that
for my generation of young women, we were the first
real generation to have a multitude of choices in front
of us. And you know, we grew up in in
a lot of situations where my mom's, the maternal figures
in our lives might have been one hundred percent dependent

(25:43):
upon a husband or a father, and women, I think
young women saw that and thought, you know, I want
to be able to make sure that I can be dependent,
I can be independent on my own, that I can
do some of these things on my own, if there's
ever a tragedy, or if there's ever a problem within
the marriage, that I have the ability to support a

(26:06):
family on my own. I think a lot of young
people were making decisions like that because of the situations
that they saw in front of them.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
So, when it comes to perceptions of adulthood, having a
job takes precedence over marriage, as young adults see economic
achievements as more directly tied to adulthood than they do
to committing to a spouse. And you know, as you
look through this, I mean a lot of this sort
of makes sense. But again, five milestones, whereas you know

(26:34):
twenty years ago all five of these will be expected
to be hit, now you're still hitting some of them.
But we've done plenty of stories about how you know
you have the failure to launch and even the intention
not to launch with some families where you know, quote
unquote adults will live with their parents well into what
we used to consider independent adulthood.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Well, and I think the job market right now has
been tough for young people as well. There are fewer
and fewer entry level because people aren't moving as much,
they're not changing jobs as much, and I don't know
that they have as many opportunities to launch, so to speak.
And if they don't launch it, or even if they
do launch into some of those entry level positions. Can

(27:16):
they afford a home, can they afford the lifestyle, Can
they afford to get out.

Speaker 17 (27:21):
On their own?

Speaker 6 (27:21):
Yeah, we have kids that are adults that are you know,
twenties almost you know, some thirties and still can't afford
to own a home. They can rent a home, maybe
they can have roommates and rent a place, but they
have their own home and actually have a mortgage.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Very difficult and in.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
Some cases to me, it sounds like making somewhat decent money.
But life itself has just gotten so expensive beyond owning
a house, just you know, everything from food to just whatever.
It's just like everything costs more insure now. So we
kind of like, oh, these kids they don't leave the house. Well,
life's a lot more expensive than it used to be.
And to your point about the jobs, I think that

(28:02):
the jobs and what they may pay, and the stability
of those jobs, and do they come with health benefits,
all that stuff is a little bit different.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
This is you know, compiled from US Census Bureau data
and it's looking at it numbers from two thousand and
five to twenty twenty three, examining the you know, the
changes in the behavior of young adults. So something to
think about in a Monday morning, almost seven o'clock on WBT.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
If we do this, how do we know it's going
to end any differently than it did before?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
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Speaker 3 (28:38):
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Speaker 4 (28:40):
I want you to tell all your friends about me.

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Speaker 4 (28:57):
I'm right seven minutes past eight o'clock on WBT. On
your Monday, August eighteenth, Bo Thompson, Beth Troutman, WBT sports
director Jim Zoch. Fresh off a pre season trip to Houston, Texas.
Sir Stephen is in for Bernie today. Sir Stephen is
also in firster Steven.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Sir Stephen is two people today.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Hit a birthday weekend, so he's probably a little sluggish today.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yeah, good morning. See it was a good morally. Usually
is like good morning, good morning, have a nice birthday weekend.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I got a little little Superman action.
There you go, and then you know, stuff around the house,
a good old adult things.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Did you go to the one with subtitles?

Speaker 8 (29:42):
No, I I took in the normal showing, the regular
standardized showing.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
The one with sound, the one you're supposed to go to.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Oh boy, Carolina Panthers are zero to two. In the
pre season. We heard from Dave Canalis just moments to
go with Zochie, a little more from the head coach.

Speaker 18 (30:02):
No to me, I think to kind of sum it up.
You know, it was a day of almost so I
just kind of challenged the group. I was like, are
we going to be almost good? Are we going to
make the plays when they're there to be made? One
for ten on third down, you know, the J T
Sanders missus the ball, Bryce, you know, hit him right
right and stride on. We got a double move Tax
probably gonna score a touchdown. We didn't block the Neil

(30:22):
Hunter on the right hit Andy in the elbow, speaking
of which took him out. Looks like an elbow sprain.
He was moving in a round fine, he said, he
feels fine, but we got to take a look and
see what happens there, you know. And then Jack Plumber
two interceptions, you know on third down, so that makes
it a really difficult day. Gave them seven points down
there where we threw that one interception, you know, and

(30:45):
all in all, just kind of looking play to play.
You know, I'm excited about our group. I'm excited about
the talent that we have out there, but can we
play together and can we make it come alive? And
we didn't do that to our standard and to my
standard today.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Almost good, that's the phrase he used, and I've seen
that appear in a few more headlines. Scott Fowler, Charlotte Observer.
Are we gonna be almost good? It's time to worry
after Panthers look awful again. That's after preseason game number two. Now,
the Panthers lost thirty to ten in Week one to Cleveland.
They lose twenty to three in Week two to Houston.

(31:20):
We have one more game left, that's coming up on
Thursday night here at home against Pittsburgh. We all know
the third preseason game is you know, there are no
starters in that game, so there's not a whole lot
to take from that. So essentially, for the starters, the
preseason is over.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
Z oke, yep, but not a big amount of time
on the field. I mean Bryce was zero for two
when coach mentioned, you know, he should be one for
two at least because if J. C. Sanders catches that ball,
it's also a first down and they'll get more reps
out there, so it kind of cuts short what they
might have gotten on the field. It's funny like something
like that they complete that one pass and maybe have like,
you know, a sizable drive. People don't even think twice
about things, but we over evaluate everything as far as

(31:56):
the fandom part of it.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
For the coaches, it's it's more.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
Important to evaluate to you where they are and what
the players are doing and what your depth is. So
I think, you know, it's it's not great, but also
it's such a small sample size when you're playing in
a preseason game and they get again two series, Bryce
rows the ball two times. Was not great, But again
it wasn't like they played four quarters of football where
you'd be more worried about it.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
What was the you were there, what was the relationship
Like did you see any time between C. J. Stroud
and Bryce Young? Did they bro hug it out? Did
they have any combos post game or before a game?

Speaker 4 (32:29):
I'm sure they did.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
I mean they did it certainly during the joint practice session,
we're you know, we're up in the booth throing the
pre game on top of the game, so I'm not
down there to see.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Like what it looks close? You know who's he talking
to now?

Speaker 4 (32:40):
But how does that? You know? I was asking you
because you've always said that the New Orleans venue is
probably the furthest away from the action. What's that stadium
that in Houston?

Speaker 6 (32:50):
Like, but I actually referenced it because Kirk Coleman was
doing the game with us, and he goes, well, this's
is the way I have they go. You've remember been
to New Orleans before? Happy New Orleans is about as
high as you can be. Like why I say, in
the rafters you're up with the.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Air duct and like the speakers like we're Cary. No,
it's just high. It's just far away.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
It's very far away.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
It's not fright, I mean there's still like you know stuff.
They'll keep you in the booth.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
We're calling, we're calling the game. The game is down
the block. We're tethered in, so it's just completely safe.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
And we take an elevator up so it's not like
we have to climate like Mount Killim and Jerom, but
it's it's high up as Houston, though it is a
binoculars game like there are times like when you know,
especially the preseason, they change players out so much as
opposed to regular season that I would get the binoculars
out as they were coming back on the field to
see which running back, which receivers are out there, because
from that distance the numbers obviously can blur together as

(33:41):
far as seeing it goes, but not as bad as
New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Well, we don't know if Bryce and CJ had much
talking during the game, but this was Bryce after the game.

Speaker 19 (33:49):
Yeah, you know, obviously you want for us with the ones,
you want to differ result. It sucks, you know that,
But that's preseason football. You know, you kind of get
that simple size and obviously want to go well early,
get it done fast, and didn't get that done today.
So of course we're gonna go watch the film tomorrow
grow from that. But you know, obviously you choice. You know,

(34:09):
coach has a plan, he does everything for a reason.
Obviously there's a process with all the preseason stuff. So
it was always exciting to watch the guys play, watch
the young guys get in so you know we'll grow
and learn.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
It's definitely overreaction time of year. I mean, everybody wants
to pen so much on just a few plays from
a preseason game. I did hear somebody and I can't
remember which talking hit it was over the weekend that
said that first game of the season, the regular season.
Want to know, this year seems like it would mean
a lot more maybe than some years. And I know
statistically it means the same thing, but I'm talking about

(34:43):
momentum and sort of emotionally, given all we saw at
the end of last season starting out, want to know
this year just would mean a whole lot.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
No, it does, I think, and again you can't forecast
a whole season, but as far as in general, what
the opponents looked like the first seven games or so
easier than it gets later in the year. So I
think in general, getting the season off in that first
month to a good start and trying to, you know,
get some wins early would not only obviously help your
record in the standings, but also in your confidence and

(35:12):
embarking on a new season.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Here a lot of changes.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Who remind me again, who our first first.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Game is at Jacksonville. We play at Arizona, trying to
think the third gay.

Speaker 6 (35:21):
We have a New England in that first month, missing
one in there though, but yeah, it's just but then
later on, I mean again, you can't forecast all the
wins and loss, but it gets you get Buffalo, you
get Green Bay on the road. There's some venues and things.
We had tamp obviously late in the year twice, so
things get tougher as they go on, so it would
be nice. I think Dallas is a team that's not
as difficult as they've been past years. That you get
somewhat in that first six seven weeks, so it'd be

(35:44):
good to get off to a good start. Last year
was like that plunker as they began at New Orleans
last year, so that would be great to not get
up to that kind of start that.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
You had to use the binoculars or was that home?
Was that away or home? I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Well, it'll be both, but I don't know for this one.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Last year was away.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
As far as the first one goes, I forget the
order of the New Orleans games this year.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Seven pm is the Pittsburgh game, the final of the
preseason coming up in just a few nights. Newstock eleven
ten Wbteam Monday Morning check traffic now boomer van Cannons.

Speaker 16 (36:09):
Yeah, I'm thinking about the player Corton who had to
drive back to Charlotte from Houston fifteen hours. Fifteen hour drive.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
They didn't make.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Him physically dry, but he was transport at fifteen.

Speaker 16 (36:20):
And you've got a best up belong on top of it, man, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
All the way from the planet Houston.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yes, Yes, from the planet Houston.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
They had to drive back.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
Think amuch binge watching you'd have to do to get
through a fifteen hour drive.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
A lot of audio books.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Road trip, Oh my gosh, what a trip. Yeah, Beth
could read fifteen books in that time.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
And I would eat so many road trip snacks. Oh,
I love road trips and road trip snacks.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
Yeah, you'd be a lot for fifty, like a whole,
like trunk full for I'd be a lot of combos
for me, Pringle. Obviously, if you got to collapse along
the cabin pressure of being up in the airplane would
not be ideal.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
That would be better option of the two oh man hostess.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
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Seven three on WBT. Just a few hours at the
White House, President Trump will welcome not just President Zelenski,
but a number of other European leaders. Twelve noon today,
the European leaders will arrive at the White House. One o'clock.
President Trump will meet with Zelenski from Ukraine. One fifteen.

(38:07):
I'm sorry, one o'clock he'll greet Zelensky. Then one fifteen
they start the meeting.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Was about to say, that's a really short meeting for diplomacy, but.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Then again, that's a fifteen minute greeting. Hello, How are
you doing fine? How are you what you've been doing.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
A long line of people's hands to shake.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
We've got thirteen more months for pleasantries. So one fifteen
the meeting between Trump and Zelensky and then three pm
the meeting with European leaders. So that's the latest intel
we're getting from the White House. We'll talk more about
this coming up. NCK mulvaney joins us as always on Monday,
and very much looking forward to getting his take on
what he saw Friday and then predicting or at least,

(38:43):
you know, speculating about what might go down at the
White House today. So this is a two straight workdays
here with world watching President Trump and his interactions with
other world leaders. So this is an interesting story from
the Wall Street Journal. And I started reading this last night. Now,
I know you keep a journal. Yes, you've always kept
a journal, well.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Since my early twenties or maybe nineteen, yes, somewhere in there.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Like uninterrupted.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
I mean, I don't do it daily anymore. I used
to try to do it daily. I guess, gosh, I
have a journal from when I was five and then
stop for a little while, and then maybe I picked
it back up around eighteen and then have kept it consistent.
I don't do it. I don't do it daily.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
But like if you go back an average year, how
many journal entries from the year do you think.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
You It really depends on the year. Last year was
a really difficult year, so I didn't journal a ton.
It really just depends on the year. There are some
years that I fill up two journals in one year,
and then there are some journals that two years equals
one journal. So it's just varied.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
It was like an interrogation. Yeah, but you'll see why
I'm asking. Oh no, no, no, So when you write a
journal entry on average, how long is it?

Speaker 11 (39:58):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Gosh, that varies too, based on I'm because I do
it kind of stream of consciousness. Mainly I do it
to work out conversations that swirl in my head or
things that are swirling in my head. So some some
journal entries are twenty pages long, some twenty page Yeah,
some are a page and a half.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah, Steve, you ever keep a journal?

Speaker 8 (40:18):
I feel like I should be pleading the fifth on
this question, but yes I have.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Okay, No, I'm asking. I'm just curious. It's been a while,
But yes, I used to now and then do some
general entries when I was in junior high and high school,
but never as an adult. Just put mine out there too.
A new generation occurring to the according to the Wall
Street Journal, of Wealthy Retirees, is commissioning their own memoirs.

(40:42):
They're not trying to reach the bestseller list. Many of
them just want the kids to know how hard they
had it or how they had it period. But the
ghost written memoirs can run hundreds of pages and cost
up to one hundred thousand dollars. This is big business.
I mean, if you look get some of like I'm
looking at how this gets done. Lifebook Memoirs offers packages

(41:06):
that currently run between eighteen thousand and forty two thousand dollars.
It's a UK based company that sends an interviewer to
the subject's home a dozen or more times than a ghostwriter,
turns those recordings into a narrative, and the company now
publishes hundreds of books a year.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
This does not surprise me at all, and I'm going
to reveal something about the Troutman side of my family.
Both of my grandparents on the Troutman side of the
family have done this. I don't think it costs this much,
although I don't know how much, but they both used
a ghostwriter of sorts to publish a memoir of their lives,

(41:47):
and I have both of them. They were given to
us as gifts.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
So they're like bound books, bound.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Books with my grandfather's has his photo on it and
my grandmother's has her photo on it, and it's stories
of how they met, how my grandfather built a business,
their relationships, their children, the struggles, the whole thing, and
it's They both did it by using a writer who

(42:13):
they talked to. They basically narrated their their stories to them,
and they they had them bound and given it to
all of our family members as gifts. And I think
they even sold them for a while at Troutman's Barbecue
so that other people could buy them. They sold their
memoirs at Troutman's.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (42:28):
Actually, the last time I ate at Troutman's Barbecue, there
was a book like that for sale.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
So that was my grandmother's probably, Yeah, that was my grandmother's.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
I almost brought.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Them in today and you didn't buy it, Mark, No,
But I hate the barbecue. So I contributed to the
family fortune.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Yeah. Well, anybody else out there do this seven oh
four or five, seven eleven, ten, or would you do
this or would you pay this much money to do this?
Because there are different ways you could go here. I,
like I said, I've never been a journaler, but I
have boxes of tapes that my grandparents are great grandparents dictated.
We still have those cassette tapes that I have yet

(43:06):
to digitize. But this may this is maybe my Oh
this is your sign.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah, this is good morning, Beaty.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Monday Morning, boen Beth Here on WBT. New generation of
wealthy retirees is commissioning their own memoirs, not trying to
reach the bestseller list as the Wall Street Journal. Many
of them just want the kids to know how hard
they had it. But they're paying big money for this.
I mean, you know, if you get it done to

(43:42):
a degree that they're talking about here, it could colls
up to one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 9 (43:45):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Chris is online number one. Chris. Welcome to Good Morning, Bet.
Thanks for holding Hey.

Speaker 21 (43:52):
Good morning guys. How are you all this morning?

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (43:55):
We're doing so great? How are you doing?

Speaker 21 (43:57):
Doing very well? Well? The reason why I gave a
call because since nineteen years old, I have been doing
a monthly budget plus like a tracking of what I
owe versus what I own. I do it, like I said,
a monthly basis, and then one of the pages I
just journal out you know what happened that month, big

(44:20):
things that have been going on in my life.

Speaker 15 (44:22):
You know.

Speaker 21 (44:22):
Currently, I'm only twenty one, so I've only been doing
this for my third year. But I mean, I'm happy
I've been doing it for three years thus far. And
the funny thing is the reason why I started was
because I have intentions of hopefully, you know, giving it
to my grandchildren and like, you know, pointing at the
you know, the cost of whatever, you know, goods it
was and being like, yeah, that's how much I used
to pay for myself back then. So but yeah, I

(44:45):
do intend to do what you're talking about today, which is,
you know, hopefully make it into something cool and then
giving it to my grandchildren one day. Oh figured it
out to share, Chris.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
I love that, especially the fact that you're showcasing how
much things cost, what you own, what you had to
do to get those things that will be huge for
your grandchildren.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Yes, ma'am, Chris, great call man, Thank you, hey all,
have a good day. Thank you too.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
We got an awesome text on our text line seven
oh four five seven oh eleven ten from Jeremiah. Listen
to this, He said, a couple of years ago, my
wife bought my father a nice leather bound journal for Christmas.
Then the next year he gave it back to us
and he had written stories from his life and life
lessons that he had learned. It took him a full

(45:34):
year to write it all down, and it's a great
book to have. That cool.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
That is cool. Garrison is with us as well, and
he actually marks the one who turned us onto this
story in the first place. Yeah, you got any experience
with this?

Speaker 20 (45:47):
Well, I mean I haven't hired anybody. I actually started
writing what I hope may be a book for the
kids someday. I started after the riots in twenty sixteen
here in town and thought, you know, I think I'm
going to write something, and I got three chapters done,
and then you know, life happens and you kind of
put it off. But the biggest reason too, is, you know,

(46:08):
when my wife and all the kids are grown, and
when my wife and I tell them about things that
we've done or things that have happened, a lot of
times they.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Go, well, we never knew that, mom and dad.

Speaker 20 (46:17):
So I thought, well, you know, maybe we start putting
some of that down.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
You imagine if you know your Mark's grandkids, and Mark
would put together stories about the family the way he does.
You know, some of these stories on the air, like
the old Carolina Cameras story be so fantastic.

Speaker 20 (46:32):
Well, you know it's funny. After you and I talked yesterday, bo,
I got to think about it. I thought we always
to have writing a book. Maybe I should just do
a series of podcasts.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, talk.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
It'd be easier.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
And yeah, less time consuming.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Maybe, Well, and they could hear the inflection of your
voice and the chuckles and the you know, the the
amusement and the heartbreak, all of the things that go
along with remembering a life well lived, because it's ups
and down.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
You know, That's the other thing. How much do you tell?

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, how much do you wanted to?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Actually?

Speaker 20 (47:00):
Do you really want to talk about your stupid mistakes
and things you've done?

Speaker 4 (47:04):
It were really you're embarrassed about? Well? And and look,
the opening paragraph of this story from the journal says
they're not trying to reach the bestseller list. These people
who are doing this, many of them just want the
kids to know how hard they had it. Now, That's
an interesting statement in of itself, because you know, when
you're the when you're the writer, you can you can

(47:24):
you can write whatever you want. That's right. The question
is is what you're reading these stories that are passed
down over generation. You get a few generations in the
middle there, and you know, I wonder if it really
did happen this way?

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (47:34):
How true are they?

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Because if you're writing your own story, you get to
gloss over some of those exactly right, some of the bad.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Birds, you sure do, yeah, or or just.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Think about it though, mark the stuff that you are
embarrassed by, or the mistakes that you made, are the
really silly things that you've done in your life that
you wish you could undo. Those might end up being
the most meaningful stories to another generation because it'll make
them feel okay about the weird stuff, the mistake they've made.
You know that that everybody's human and that we all
do it, and that those are some of the best

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growing experiences.

Speaker 10 (48:07):
Right.

Speaker 20 (48:08):
Yeah, I think that's exactly right. Another thing that I
thought was interesting about the Journal article was it said,
you know, if you write a book in this day
and time, will they read it? Because you know, attention
spans are so short. So that's what got me thinking
too about a podcast as opposed to a book.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
It all just makes sense. Mark Garrison, you know you
could you could do, you could do. You could ghost
ghost write or ghost narrate people's memoirs. Ooh see see
because a third act.

Speaker 20 (48:36):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
There's a business I could get into. Cleveland based Key
Corpse wealth management unit offers clients with with ten million
dollars or more in assets a free ghost written memoir
alongside traditional banking products. The thirty to forty page books
are included in a suite of softer services and meant
in part to ease clients fears that their errors won't

(48:58):
understand the value of hard work. Wow, it's amazing. If
you got enough money, then you can have an entire
entire cyclopedia set have written about your life.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Well, Mark Garrison. John just texted us on the text
line this is the perfect way to end this, He said,
I would definitely read a book or listen to Mark
Garrison's podcast. Dude is a legend.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
The checkers in the mail sir, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Seven forty four on WBT. Keep the text and calls coming.
So I actually, like I said, I never have been
much of a journaler, but I do have a microphone,
and it's a lot of tape sitting in boxes.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Well, you realize that this show is pretty much an
audio journal every single day that your family can go
back and listen to.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Well, if that's the case, my kids are going to
be really wondering what the heck was going on with
this guy's life.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
This is Good Morning DAT with both thumbson and Beth Troutman.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Eight minutes in front of eight o'clock on your Monday
morning Bowen Bett Fear on Good Morning BT talking about
people who commission other people to ghostwrite their memoirs. Lifebook
Memoirs offers packages that currently run between eighteen thousand and
forty two thousand dollars. Company sends an interviewer to the
subject's home a dozen or more times than a ghostwriter

(50:23):
turns those recordings into a narrative. The company now publishes
hundreds of books a year. One guy got thirty copies
of the book, ten in hardcover, twenty in paperback, gave
him out his gifts to family members, etc. Et cetera.
You know Beth was talking about, but this happens in
your family.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, both of my grandparents. My grandfather who has now
passed away, he had this done, a ghostwriter wrote, and
these are novel sized books. It's not twenty thirty forty pages.
I mean it's over one hundred pages. And then my
grandmother did it a few years ago as well, had
a ghost write. Are put together and they're they're hardcover
books with their photos on them, and they gave they

(51:06):
gave them to the entire family as gifts at Christmas,
at Mother's Day, and and they've even sold them to
other people, to other people if anybody was interested.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Well, my great grandfather when he passed away, actually when
my when my my grandfather passed away on my dad's side,
he uh, when we were sort of gathering the belongings,
one of the things that went to me, because I'm
an audio guy and I have an ability to digitize things,
was a box of cassette tapes. Oh wow, that my

(51:38):
great grandfather made telling stories. I still have it in
my closet, but you know, it takes time to do that,
and I haven't had a chance to sit down and
go through some of those, but that would you know,
that'd be because people keep records in different ways. When
I was a kid, my mom we always joked because
I was one of three boys. My mom did the
baby book thing, you know, the baby scrap book thing,
and mine was very detailed and full of things, and

(52:01):
you can see, I mean just everything I did the
first year of my life. And then my brothers was
you know, had a few things in it. My youngest
brother basically had his name written in the blank, and that.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
One same same. Because I'm in the middle child, my
older brother's full mine. My little brothers has like one
little snippet of something in there. But here's here's a
really cool thing that you can do if you have
a family member that you want some of their stories.
They have books and you can get them at Barnes
and Noble. You can order them on Amazon. They are
hard bound books that have questions in them and then

(52:33):
blank pages that prompt your family members to tell stories.
And I bought one for my mother after she was
diagnosed with cancer, and she got the majority of it filled.
I still have the book, but we lost her before
she got to finish it. And it's fascinating to even
go through it because you even see her handwriting decline
as she battled cancer. But I'm so glad that I

(52:56):
bought that for her because there are stories that she
told in there that I did I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Let's go to line number one, seven four, five, seven,
eleven ten. Tony has been waiting, Tony, what's going on?

Speaker 17 (53:07):
Hey, good morning guys. First off, thanks for doing everything here.
Love the show. Thanks to But yeah, I wanted to
share that. So my my mother's brothers, so my uncle, uh,
the whole family immigrated from Italy when they were in
their young adults and children's age, and about five or
six years ago he made one of these memoirs like this,

(53:28):
and he wrote it all down, several stories, because his
idea is, you know, as I get older, my children's children,
I want to pass down like the legacy and the
stories that they may not all be able to hear,
you know, because I pass away and whatnot. So he
did all this and it was a huge hit, Like
he gave it to the whole family. The family loved it,
and you know, I asked him like, how did you

(53:49):
do it? And he just broke down lots of these stories.
I don't know if he spent all the money that
you guys, are saying some of these ones crossed, but
definitely did it and prompted like the rest of us,
you know, again with my mother, I took it like
an audio recording from all of them one evening. It's
probably like two hours long of all their stories from
the old country and things like that. And thought about

(54:10):
doing something like this, but gosh, I don't know if
I'd spend this much money. But it's at least all
on audio, and you know, but anyway, anybody who's got
you know, family stories like that, even if you can't
do it in a memoir, just like they have voice
memos you know, on your on your iPhone or whatever. Yeah,
definitely a great way to capture all this stuff for
posterity for when they pass away.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
There's probably big money and transcribing old tapes just to
have the transcription of it, not even you know, worked
into some professional narrative or ghostwriter. But Tony, thank you
for calling man. We really appreciate it. Real quick, Steve,
I'm gonna try to squeeze James in here because I know, yeah,
I see the name Garrison on the screen here too. James.
Welcome to Good Morning BT.

Speaker 7 (54:51):
Good morning, Good to hear you, guys, I just got
up and I'm usually don't call in this early, but
I had the call on this one because I've got
a hold you marketing avenue to go down.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Okay, so I know this has something to do with
Garrison and his light just came on. So I think
you can hear this. Oh, fire away, James.

Speaker 15 (55:11):
Yes, what you could do is right here. I can
see how these books, this whole thing would cost a
lot of money to do, these books, because if you
just had one volume, it's okay. But if you had
like ten books then you give them out to your family,
then the cost could run up. But what if you
also had either like a video CD or a thumb

(55:34):
drive that was a companion to the book, and he
could do it like you guys do the news quiz
every week and have the music in the background, and
that way, everybody has to read the book. And on
the whatever day they celebrate your birthday or your the

(55:55):
anniversary of your passing, then on that day every year
they should get out the book and play the news
quiz who knows the most about the family. That's a
cool idea family news quiz or the Thompsons family youth quip.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
So James, are you saying that it would sound like
this this is your life? Yes, there you go, all
right man, good call. Thank you so much. That's James.
Don't get worried, folks. It's not Friday. I wish it was,
but it's it's Monday. But that's a great idea. Yeah,
have Mark quiz you on your family history.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
I love this Mark.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
I'm as human as anyone.

Speaker 12 (56:35):
I wake up every morning and despite not knowing what
to do, I put one foot in front of the
other and I try to make the best posses I can.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
From News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine three DOUBLET.

Speaker 18 (56:45):
I screw up all the time, but that is being human,
and that's my greatest strength.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
This is Good Morning Beat with Bo Thompson and Beth troutlit.
This place is a mouth of goodness and a mixed up.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Work Monday morning in the Tyboid Studio. I hope you
had a great weekend. Saturday night, I was at the
Casey in Uptown Charlotte North Trion Street for the ninth
annual Claire's Army Gala. Raised well over one hundred and

(57:24):
sixteen thousand dollars. I'd say sixteen because when we were
raising funds toward the end, we had a goal of
one hundred thousand dollars in the building that night, and
we upped it by sixteen because this would be Claire's
talking about Claire Ratlift, the legacy and the inspiration for

(57:44):
Claire's Army. She would turn sixteen in just a few days.
So we said, let's get to one hundred and sixteen
in this room tonight, and we got it done. So
thanks again to Emily and Kevin and the organization that
is Claire's Army. You can learn more about it c
l A I R E S R ARMYRG a organization

(58:05):
and organization near and dear to my heart. So another
very successful gala, and that's the engine that runs the
whole year for their endeavors. So great stuff. On Saturday
night at the Casey, we had the Panthers. Not so
great stuff in Houston. But it's the preseason. So the
Panthers are zero to two in the preseason, losing to
the Texans twenty to three. But as we've been talking

(58:27):
about with the zoke, you know you got preseason is
preseason and we'll see if any of this translates over
to the regular season. Hopefully they'll get things together by then.
But you were there in RG Stadium, a place you've
been many times, and watching this team call on the action.
What were your thoughts about what you saw on Saturday?

Speaker 6 (58:44):
Yeah, building where Pap has played Super Bowl thirty eight.
So I bought a lot of memories and was working
with Kurt Coleman and Kevin Donnelly. Donnelly played for the
Houston Oilers franchise back in the day and even played
when they moved to Tennessee. So for him, not only that,
but his final game as a Panther was that Super
Bowl game. So that's the last place he played a
game in in Oh Wow, February of two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
So it's special.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Yeah, it was fun, kind of He loved living in Houston.
I have some high He liked it down there. He said, Yeah,
I love Carolina barbecue.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
But the brisket, the brisket I lost him play ten
messaid he couldn't think again, and so so so.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Did go the Panthers.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Were they thinking of brisket?

Speaker 4 (59:20):
They were thinking of brisket.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
Or something other than good football. On hundred and sixty
three yards of offense one of ten on third down.
And again you talk about first, second, and third strings.
In the first string wasn't out there very long. But
you know, Bryce two throws oh for two, but one
was dropped and if he completes that to J. T. Sanders,
if it wasn't dropped, he has the first down and
the drive continues. And they had some other big runs
by Trevor et and that were called back by holding penalty.

(59:42):
So it felt like every time they would start to
get you know, a big chunk player gets some momentum going,
it would be brought back or something negative would happen.
So not to take away and stuff over the fact
that they did not play well in that game. I
think by all accounts that joint practice session on Thursday,
they felt like they not only held their own but
maybe one a lot of the sessions in practice that
they got good work overall between the Thursday and Saturday,

(01:00:04):
and that was outside in that ninety five degree heat
Indexit they didn't want to push it too much because
some folks were talking like, well, why didn't they put
the starters back out there for a third series like
they had talked about they might do, and I think
they just felt like they'd done so much on Thursday
with that competition Saturday preseason game that that you know,
they want to get a look at some guys and
who are going to make the roster.

Speaker 11 (01:00:24):
So it's a.

Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
Little bit of you want to play well, you always
want to win, you want to develop that culture. But
on the other hand, you do have to evaluate players
and there's limited reps to to get a look at everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
So that's that's game number two. The Panthers will close
out the preseason Thursday night, Bank of America Stadium against Pittsburgh.
But we know that's not going to be like Aaron
Rodgers tosson balls there and Bryce Younger.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
That would be a story if Aaron Rodgers, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Aaron Rodgers. Maybe we think he's going to be in
the building, but not playing on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
If he's not in Egypt or somewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
That's true, a whole dark cave.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Dark Kah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
The NBA schedule was released last week and we found
out you know, where the Hornets are going to play
and all the other teams, and we were talking some
about you know, this is going to be interesting because
the NBC now is back in the mix, and you
have Amazon Prime in the mix along with ESPN, ABC.
But I this is one aspect of it that may
have gone under the radar. I wonder if you saw this.

(01:01:18):
So so NBC is going to have Tuesday night games
and they're rolling out something called Coast to Coast Tuesday,
which pushes the second game of a double header. In
several cases this upcoming season, the second game will not
start before eleven PM Eastern start start.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
For that reason, I'm out, Yeah, who's going to be
up watching that?

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
I mean, how well, not our coast, so the other coast.
But also you know, I you know, we got kids
that are like late twenties, early thirties, and like they
don't have jobs, wake up at three in the morning
like you guys do. So it's like some people that's
kind of when they're kind of settling in, have dinner
like thirty and watch a game for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Even if you have a normal nine to five, the
game starts at eleven. That means it's over at the
earliest one am a little after. So even if you
have a normal nine to five, I feel like that's late.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Well you're basically I mean you're just sort of conceding
the East coast crowds not going to see you know. Look,
when I was a kid, I remember when, you know,
growing up watching the Braves. It was always almost it
was a privilege if my parents would let me stay
up when they played on the West Coast and the
games would start at like ten twenty or ten thirty.
But and even with the NC DOUBLEA tournament, you heard

(01:02:34):
some squawking from people like Roy Williams and Mike Krzyzewski
and you know, late in their careers about these games.
On the first week of the NC DOUBLEA tournament would
start at like the last game would start at past
ten o'clock. But this is sort of breaking a new threshold,
I feel like eleven and as some people have pointed
out on social media, once you you know, if the
game before it goes into overtime or you have by

(01:02:56):
the time you get all the commercials and the pleasantries
out of it, you know, you could have a game
starting around eleven thirty. So, like I said, you're basically
just sort of conceding that the East coast is not
going to see it, and you're playing to the West coast.
But the idea of the second game of a double
header starting past eleven o'clock. I feel like, is you know,
I mean, once you sort of rip that scabe off,
it's going to be like.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
One a, everything's about, you know, making every dollar, right,
So it's interesting that you would have it that far
out of prime time. And while there is a popularity
with like say eleven o'clock news or the you know
we've said still late that shows and not getting the
audience as it used to have. It's not what it
used to be back in the days of the Leno
and Letterman and whatever. But I think to me, you know,

(01:03:37):
you're not going to have as many eyes, You're not
going to have as many dollars that come from doing that.
It's only going to be West Coast teams. I do
think it'd be hilarious if they had eleven o'clock games
with the Celts explain the Knicks, I know, the East
Coast instead of doing a West Coast game, like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
You know what, just show up at eleven. We'll get
done around one thirty, right, That's true. So the first
matchup affected by this change will be Week two, October
twenty eighth, Golden State hosting the LA Clippers. Team games
will be played at eleven PM next season.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
So I always felt bad for the Clippers, well.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
At least the second team. And yeah, at least they
have their own arena now. For so long they had
to share the arena with the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I just always wondered why they haven't moved to like,
just moved to San Diego or something, you know, just
just go somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
They were the San Diego Clippers. It's funny you say.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
That, why not go back? Why does LA need two teams?

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Look at Beth, I'll worried about the Clippers. San Diego
loses all their teams to LA.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
The Chargers, the Clippers. But that would be because Sacramento's
got a team for.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
A lot of people, a lot of people in LA
that don't even know the Clippers are there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
I know, and I feel bad for them. And whey
are they called the Clippers? Was it because people moved
their grass a whole lot in San Diego?

Speaker 6 (01:04:42):
It was a nautical thing. You'd have to ask the
rock guys Ago. It's like jims and sleeves, stuff like that.
A Clipper, it's about the jyps sleeve.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
So it's not about mowing lawns.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
It's all right, that's the Phoenix team, the Phoenix Suns
that you know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Morning, what do you feel like you're about to go
on Winterable Show?

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Yes, I suddenly got a I was like, wait a minute,
am I missing something?

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
I walk up. It's like, so I sent Beth a
segment idea. I said, yesterday, I guess it was, not
was today? Early this morning? I think so, but that
the timing is not really important. It's the reaction that
I got. And she responded with a thumbs up. And

(01:05:37):
when we got in this morning, live in front of
each other, she said, we're going to do that and
I said I wasn't sure whether you wanted to do
it or not. She's what are you talking about it?
I said, because your thumbs up, you didn't love it. See,
Beth has set the expectation with us when we text.
And I'm sure as you listen, you have people that
you know that do the same thing. Like Beth is
a very enthusiastic Texter. So like Beth doesn't just like things,
she loves things. And she has four exclaim metion points

(01:06:00):
as opposed to one. You know, it's it's fine. Capital
letter is sometimes great, you know that's your personality, But
when you just use the thumbs up, that's like, eah,
maybe is that you're pretty much did you get an OMG? Though?

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
So here here was the reason. It's funny that it's
funny that he he noticed the thumbs up. I thumbs
uped it because I didn't understand what he was saying.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Oh so there was a bit of a message in there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
I actually was confused about part.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Of it, and I shouldn't have been hands up emoji.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Like I do use that a lot. I do give
him the hands up emoji quite quite a few times.
But I did thumbs up something because I was like,
I'm not quite sure what he's talking about, but it
sounds if it seems important to both it's important to Bow,
and if Bow's into it, I'm into it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
You want to do it, I'm support you. Like a
thumbs up from Jim is different than a thumbs up
for me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
That's like that's a standard reply.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Yeah, But with Mabeth it's like it's the best equivalent
of cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Cool, or fine.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Sometimes I said, like three dancing figures or something, or I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Send a gift of Kristin Wig if she kicks her
leg and she hits the little triangle, then you know
that I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
That's five stars. So this is an example of a
text that I don't think Beth read very carefully when
she sent it to me Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Oh god, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
What oh No, Beth sends me a text, the first
one that says I haven't gone back to listen to it,
but I love the show today, which you know it's great.
When she sends me that she liked the show, and
then I responded back to say, I love the show today,
this was a great week. And then she sends me, now,
I think what she meant to say, just what she

(01:07:47):
meant to send was it thrilled me to no end.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
That's exactly what.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
My response to what you wrote was you always thrill
me to no end. And then she was like, that
might be the nicest thing that anybody ever said to me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
I said, oh my god, the right, and then said
that might be the nicest thing anybody's.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
Ever But I thought to myself, I wonder if she
really read what she said, And now I know that
she did not, because I know her pretty well by now.
So in response to this, was a great week for me,
she said, I thrilled me. I was pretty good, wasn't
I bow? I thought my part was good. And I

(01:08:28):
just sat there and I thought, you know, am I
going to say, did you go back and read what
you read right there? Because not that I not that
you don't thrill me to no end. I mean, I
love doing this show, but.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I did think it was kind of I thought your
response was shocking you you always thrilled me to no end.
But I was like, well, that's so sweet. That is
a sweet response. So thank you, what a great thing.
And until just this moment, I didn't realize that I
had written him that I thrilled me.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
I was pretty good too.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
It wasn't I bow the bonuses I get to spend
the whole day with me.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
I meant it it it's thrilled me.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Yeah, isn't an amazing like one letter.

Speaker 20 (01:09:07):
That's why she journals twenty pages about herself.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
You know, It's about my crazy brain, is what it is.
It's about my crazy mind. I can't believe I fat
fingered that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
What does it say about me? Though? So my response
Friday when I saw that was, I know what she
really meant. I'm saving this for a segment on Monday.

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
Well, I can't read the one I got the week
before where she said she was trying to say she
was tickled by No, you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I was trying to say tickled and auto correct.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
That's tickled, not this to a word, not tickled.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
So I can't believe my texts have become so.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
You know what you have to say today? When I
say good talk Bath, you have to say.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
You have thrilled me to no end.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
No, you have to say I thrilled me to know
end right, eight twenty eight on Newstalk eleven to ten WBT. See,
I've been holding I've been sitting on that segment for
the whole weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
I am so uncomfortable now that this went the whole weekend.

Speaker 15 (01:09:57):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
I didn't realize that I had written that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
No, the payoff was exactly what I was hoping for.

Speaker 12 (01:10:02):
Good Morning, Hey, Nancy, enjoy your show.

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
Thank you love the show.

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Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Oh oh, he says, you're very kind.

Speaker 9 (01:10:14):
Wow, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
This is good Morning Beat.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Forty years ago. Forty years ago, since this movie hit theaters.
I'll be the first to tell you that I when
I look back at the eighties, and if you listen
to this show, you know how much I am a
child of the eighties, and so is Beth. But this
movie was not one of my favorites of the eighties.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Do you know the only scene? I guess? There are
two scenes from this film that I remember. The end
with the fist pump in the air with this song,
but then the moment where Ali Sheety was drawing the
art project, you know, in the library and she shakes
her dandriff on it to be snowed. Why is that
the scene?

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
Why is that just forgotten? Enjoy your waities?

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Why is that? Those are the only two scenes I
remember from the film.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
What's funny is those kids are much older than the
teacher was. Now it's been forty years.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Oh gosh, yes, forty years for the Breakfast Club. And
so while while I was not why I mean, I
watched that movie a few times, but it wasn't like
I was glued to it like I don't know other movies.

Speaker 9 (01:11:34):
Exolute, you promised me the Son of Joel.

Speaker 18 (01:11:38):
What I've given you is the next best thing.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
You just hold on that little lady and he'll be along.

Speaker 11 (01:11:44):
See.

Speaker 10 (01:11:44):
They had this relationship and she does all his public
relations and he.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Gives her every exclusives.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
They're the best of friends.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
You know what I mean? What an undemanding mail the
Superman must be.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Yeah, and you could use the taki and there yourself sister.

Speaker 9 (01:12:00):
Wait oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 19 (01:12:03):
For now.

Speaker 9 (01:12:04):
Kill the rest starting with him.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
But you remember the White House, the Oval Room.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
We had a few laughs right there.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
Oh, this is one of the greatest scenes ever. Flies
up to the window. General, would you care to step outside? Superman?

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Superman, my god, I mean, get him come to me,
son of Jerrold Niel before sir.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
Now for my money. One of the greatest movie villains
of all time Zod, General Zod from Superman to in
nineteen what nineteen eighty I believe it was, and uh,
Terrence Stamp. So we talked about today being the fortieth
anniversary of the release of The Breakfast Club. Terrence Stamp,
who played General Zod, dead at the age of eighty
seven yesterday eighty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
And as soon as I saw that news pop up
over the weekend, I started realizing how many films he
was in I mean I knew him as Zod. That's
kind of the character that he was and always would
be in my brain. But he was in Oscar nominated films.
He I mean, he had a long career as an.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
Actor, and I always think of I mean, ironically, the
Panthers are playing the Houston Texans over the weekend, and
I cannot think of General Zod and not hear him say,
oh you are who is the ruler of the planet Houston,
because that's what they said all throughout the movie. Rose
is seeing this.

Speaker 10 (01:13:42):
Ah, well, with the satellite link, just about everybody, I mean,
the whole planet, the whole planet Houston.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
There it is. And I was mentioning earlier all these years,
I mean even since I was a kid, I thought
they were talking about Houston, Texas, and in the beginning
they were. But so it's one of those sort of
like Superman two was was was a sneaky, funny movie
and it was directed by a guy named Richard Lester,
and he took over for Richard Donner uh in the

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in the first movie. But Lester was a comedic director,
and so there are these little sort of you know,
either you you laughed at it or you didn't. But
so as I'm going back last night, I'm realizing that
he was talking about Houston, Texas in the beginning because
they see the three villains in space and they're talking about,
you know, Houston, we have a problem. So they're talking
back to Houston, Texas for the for the space uh,

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you know, command center. But then later in the movie,
they landed this po dunk town. Uh, and it's it's
East East Houston, Idaho. And actually there is an East
Houston spelled h U s t O n Idaho. And
so they went to Houston twice, both both Houston's. But
all these years I thought they were I thought that
was And thinking back on it, they land in this

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po dunk town and they're like, Texas was bigger than that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Then, well, here's another teeny tiny bit of trivia. You know,
he's the villain in Superman two. He's General Zod. Guys,
he was the voice of Jurrell in Smallville?

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Really yeah, did you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Steve Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:15:12):
Of course, isn't that kind of He also had a
relatively small part in Star Wars as well.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
I didn't know that either. What part was it? It was?

Speaker 8 (01:15:20):
Was it Phantom Menace was episode one or episode two.
He was in one of the like the prequels, the
new quote unquote the New Old so.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
So our episode four, but the real episode one correct? Yeah, okay, yes,
And if.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
You look at his IMDb page. His career in film
and television started in nineteen sixty and his last appearance
was in twenty twenty one in a film called Last
Night in Soho he was He played the silver haired gentleman.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Terrence Stamp passed away at the age of eighty seven.
So you know, on the day that happens, we're gonna
have to say rest in peace, General Zod from Superman Too.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
I will be completely honest, because you know that's what
we'll do.

Speaker 6 (01:16:06):
The well, what the roughertoire of voices do you have
for certain occasions?

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
Cause back, every once in a while, a promo just
builds itself, and there it was. Let's go to Van Van.
You're on News Talk eleven ten WBT. How you doing man? Okay, okay,
wait to.

Speaker 6 (01:16:24):
Bring it honest, that's okay, knocking a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
This is Good Morning BT.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Seven before nine o'clock on WBT. Mick mulvaney joins us
from the Key West Bureau lots to get to as.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
How's that not a road trip for the morning show.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Now we're working on it, it will happen.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
That will be a long drive for all of us
in our seven different cars.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
Worth it. I was about to say, I think that
would be worth it if there are other options of
putting it most of the way there to buy. I
mean at least, oh, you don't want to fly into Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
I don't want to drive to Miami either, so well.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
You know, maybe if we did it like Kermit Fozzi
style and that and then and the STUDI Baker. Anyway,
we have a big day at the White House coming up,
second time and less than a week where it's been
like a really pivotal meeting in this time at the
White House. It was in Alaska on Friday, of course, Zelenski,
President Zelensky meeting with President Trump around one fifteen this afternoon.

(01:17:29):
So stay tuned for Mick mulvany on all that, and
of course coverage throughout the day here on the Great Colossus.
In the meantime, whatever you're going to do today, make
make sure you know what extra words you could use
in the process.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Y'all. You know that I love like the ones that
best text accident.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
I love words, you guys, you know what you get.
I love I have. I have a gigantic dictionary that
have words highlighted and underlined from the years, in years
that I've been using the dictionary.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Let me just get out of the way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
This is like good morning, humble breath. I like a.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Dictionary that's a blanket for the whole segment, because you
know there's gonna be a lot of these. I know,
many big words.

Speaker 22 (01:18:12):
No, I just love and I love that atomology of
expeditious entomology how words became and amene Well, guys, the
Cambridge Dictionary has now added Every year they add new
words from I don't know that have been popularized in

(01:18:33):
that calendar year. This year, I I some of these
words are brand new to me. One of the new
words added to the Cambridge Dictionary this year skibbety skibbeity, guys, exactly.
They even say this in the actual BBC article from

(01:18:54):
which I'm reading.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Skibbity is a gibberish gibberish. They call it gibberish hibberish
term coined by the creator of a viral animated video
series on YouTube. And it basically it basically means a
word that can have It can be cool, it can
mean bad or you can use it to as a

(01:19:18):
substitution for bad words, so you can say, what the
skibbety are you doing? And this is now in the
Cambridge Diction Dictionary.

Speaker 6 (01:19:28):
In the Dictionary of Reference as a YouTuber. Yes, as
part of the explanation.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Of the word, And guys, the name of the the
YouTube series is skibbety toilet and it has now become
an official word in the Cambridge Dictionary. I don't know
how to feel about it, but I just basically told you, guys,
the etymology of the word it came from. It's a
made up word from a YouTuber. The other word that
has now been added to the Cambridge Dictionary trad wife.

(01:19:53):
Have y'all seen the have y'all seen the shows trad wives?
So it's basically a shortened term for traditional wife and
his people on online have tradwife channels where they you know,
vacuum and full makeup and and do chores and cook
and things, all dressed up kind of the way Donna

(01:20:15):
reed or something like that. And they have these tradwife channels.
So it's a traditional wife that is now in the dictionary.
Here is the other one that really troubles me. Instead
of being I guess delusional is too hard to say,
so people now say you're being delulu, and delulu is
now a word in the dictionary.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
Slang slang delulu am age like a clothing line. Actually
I bought.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
He calls it delululemon.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
Everybody knowsmon. Wow. Can I just tell you you thrilled
me to no enduring that segment?

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Do you want to be good? Or do you want
to be somebody who changed the world?

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Can I be both?

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
From News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine three doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
I have been around a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
I'm for this has the makings of a team that
can bring light from the darkness.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
This is Good Morning Beat with both Thompson and Beth Troutman.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
That can't be on the whees.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Talk to good back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Look for the Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Going to be there, honey, some special chats years. Yes,
all right, Monday morning, August eighteenth, We've been the fifty
thousand watch south all the way to the southernmost Bureau

(01:21:48):
of Good Morning BT. That is where we find the
one and only Mick mulvaney. Good morning to you.

Speaker 11 (01:21:55):
Sir, Good morning, my friend. How are you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
We are doing great? We have you are lucky duck
being down there in the Key West Bureau once again.

Speaker 11 (01:22:05):
Yeah, we see the show on the road this morning.
We're out at one of the state parks down here,
and Pam is dolphin watching.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
Oh well, we always recommend dolphin watching while listening to
the show. Yes, perfect combinations. My favorite thing, yes, and
the third, the third thing, world politics. Here we go
with a meeting that's scheduled in just a few hours
at the White House. Before we get to what we
are expecting or anticipating with Zelensky and all the other

(01:22:32):
world leaders. They're going to meet with President Trump just
around one fifteen today. I want to roll back, of course,
and get your take on what we saw unfold in
Alaska on Friday, because that was quite the spectacle to watch.
And you know, heading into the weekend, it's usually I'm
sort of done for the week and kind of in
that weekend mode. But there I am glued to the

(01:22:54):
news networks, just watching every little thing you can sort
of glean from body language and the playes before they
actually even talked about what they did. Mick mulvaney, what
were your thoughts on President Trump meeting with President Putin
on Friday.

Speaker 11 (01:23:08):
I thought it was exactly what Trump wanted. I know
he's taken a lot of criticism from a bunch of
different people. News for you, Donald Trump's gonna take criticism
regardless of what he does. But I think the meeting
gave him what he was looking for, which is the
chance to sit and talk privately one to one. Everybody
focuses on the fact that they wrapped up early, supposedly
and left. I don't look at that from Trump's perspective,
having been in with his meeting before. The critical meeting

(01:23:30):
was the first meeting, which I think when an hour
or an hour and a half longer than they expected,
that that was the meeting, And the fact that he's
now meeting with Zelensky right away tells me that he
feels like there's opportunity here to make progress. So I
know we're going to get all sorts of, you know,
sideshow criticisms. I know, his criticisms of how he walked

(01:23:51):
down the red carpet for good ess sakes, But when
you look at the actual merits of the big issue,
which is, you know, a possible peace deal in Ukraine.
I think you're closer to that now than you were
on Friday morning, and I think everybody would agree that's
probably a good thing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
So one of the criticiss criticisms, and you just mentioned it,
was the red carpet itself, the fact that a red
carpet was rolled out for Vladimir Putin? Did that strike
you when you saw it? If you had been chief
of staff, if you had been someone who was part
of organizing this particular meeting, would you have suggested some
of the niceties that happened, the gift that was given,

(01:24:27):
the red carpet, you know, riding in the beast together,
things that are being talked about on a Monday morning.

Speaker 11 (01:24:33):
Yeah. I think that the job of the of the
chief and of the staff, most of that's probably be
driven by Trump, right, because I mean Trump, he's an
entertainer and he's really, really, really good at it. He
puts on spectacle in ways that that I would never contemplate,
just not in my DNA. The staff's job, including the
chief of staff job, would simply lay out for the president.

(01:24:55):
If we do this, then it might be perceived as
that if we do that, that it might be perceived
as this. As you sort of lay out the options
and just try to give him the perspective that he
might be missing. The ultimate decision, obviously, on how to
handle things is his. I didn't mind the red carpet treatment.
This is a world leader, is he?

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
You know?

Speaker 11 (01:25:12):
Is he my favorite world leader right now? No, he's not.
He's still a world leader. I thought the B two
flyover was one of the most I don't know if
I could say this in the radio or not ball
or moves I've ever seen, you know, get and you
could tell that that Putin was surprised by it. That's
a that's a that's he's sending a real, real powerful message,
especially in light of what just happened in Iran about
six weeks ago. So I again, I thought it was

(01:25:34):
one hundred percent Trump. I thought he was going to
be very happy with it. And is he going to
be criticized? Yeah, the man, you know, when it comes
to style, there's no end of criticism for Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
One of the reasons why I love having you on
the show and always have many reasons, but one of
the most important ones I've always felt was, you know,
you can ask a lot of people to analyze something,
but very few of them have actually been with the
subject behind closed doors, have watched President Trump when the
cameras aren't on, have been five feet away from him

(01:26:06):
for the better part of a year. You were his
chief of staff. So when I ask you, what did
you glean from body language? What did you think about
the looks on the faces and that type of thing.
Beth and I were talking about this earlier and there
was a person on the text line that said, lol,
body language hah, like, like you can tell anything from that?
Basically that was the inference. Well for me, yes, but

(01:26:28):
from you, I think that's absolutely an important question because,
like I said, you know him better than most, So
what did you think? Beth talked about the red carpet
and all, but just watching Trump's mannerisms and you know,
this is more so than most cases about I mean,
that's not the Trump spoke and so did Putin, But
watching them and you know, even just getting in the

(01:26:48):
car and sort of how they sort of reacted to
each other, what did you think about what you saw
based on what you've seen before?

Speaker 11 (01:26:55):
Yeah, you talked about all the analysts and so forth,
and I was, I think of the news this morning,
at least Internet there's a story from a lip reader
who now is convinced he absoutely knows what they said
to each other and you know, in private, which is
just bizarre. But anyway, put that aside, like I said
at the outset, sitting here watching or watching everything right
and mostly watching the actions afterwards, because I think that's

(01:27:18):
very telling when it comes to Trump, what happens next
with Trump and the fact that there's a meeting today,
think about that, and maybe I'd just get too deep
down in the weeds on this stuff. From my old
job perspective. What they're what they are doing is really
difficult to do. I know that sounds sort of inside baseball,
and I guess it is. But you don't have a

(01:27:39):
meeting with the Russian leader in Alaska on Friday and
then have effectively a symposium with all of the leaders
of Europe including Ukraine, at the White House on a Monday.
That never happens. That's that's that's that that speaks an
operational commitment to this. That is that blows my mind?

(01:28:00):
And why do I focus on that, because that tells
me Trump feels like he's got an opportunity. He got
on the airplane after and said, look, we need to
have a meeting now in Washington with Zielenski and the
Europeans as soon as possible, and Monday would be as
soon as possible. Don't put any value in this criticism
or these commentaries saying, oh, these European leaders are rushing

(01:28:21):
to Washington to save Zelenski from Trump. You don't get
to invite yourself to the White House, Manuel Mi. Chrome
can't show up on the front door and say how
can you let me in? That's not how it works.
Every single one of those world leaders received a formal
invitation from the White House to get here, and they
are dropping everything on their schedule to get here. So
look to the actions, not to the commentaries of lip

(01:28:42):
readers and body language experts. Look to what's actually happening.
What's happening seems to indicate that there is some opportunity
for a deal here, at least more so than there
was last week.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Okay, so when we come back, I want to get
into what might happen today and what can be expected
to happen today. Of course, the backdrop is what happened
the last time Zelensky was at the White House. Now,
last time it was just Slensky and President Trump and
his team. Now you have a lot more people in
the mix. But we do know that the itinerary says
that he's going to meet with Selensky one on one

(01:29:14):
and then a good bit after that is when the
other leaders are going to figure into this based on
the intel that we've seen this morning schedule wise, but
I want to get you see what mickldhinney thinks is
gonna you know, what are we going to be talking
about by the time we're back tomorrow based on this
meeting today. More with Mick Mulvaney coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
This is good boarding bet with Bo Thompson and Beth Troudman.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
Nine twenty one on WBT. Bo and Beth here talking
with Mick mulvaney, former White House Chief of Staff, South
Carolina Congressman, White House Budget Director, and you see him
periodically on News Nation and other networks. Here's what we
know about the itinerary for today's meetings at the White
House twelve noon. The European leaders there are at least

(01:30:00):
seven of them that will arrive at the White House
at one o'clock. President Trump will greet Vladimir Zelensky, President
of Ukraine. At one fifteen he will meet with Zelenski,
assuming this is President and his team, very much like
the meeting we saw last time Zelensky was there with
And how much of that gets televised, we don't know,

(01:30:22):
but that's going to happen at one fifteen, and then
three o'clock is when the meeting with the other European
leaders will happen. At least that's what it looks like
on paper right now. Mick mulvaney's back with us on
the phone line today from Florida. So, Nick, we talked
about what happened on Friday. Now, what about your expectations today?
How do you think this is going to go down?

Speaker 11 (01:30:42):
Yeah, it was sort of just laughing to myself as
you read through the itinerary for the day, because my
guess is there's a one in ten chance that's how
it's going to play out.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
Well, see, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
You would know you would know that.

Speaker 11 (01:30:54):
You know, it's the type of thing where he's going
to start a meeting and say, come on, just bring
everybody in or you know, he might say means go
to go ten minutes and to go two hours. So
they're going to meet. That's the bottom line. I don't
know what the structure is going to look like, but
it sounds like he wants to meet with Zelenski alone,
at least for part of the time. I think that
is very interesting, and then he'll meet with the group.

(01:31:14):
But you know, whether or not it happens, like you
just laid out on that. On that with the White
House put outers, it's more sort of from the hip,
I guess is it doesn't really make any difference. Trump
thinks he's got the outlines of a deal and he
wants to run it by the Europeans and see where
they are and try and sell them on it is
what I think is happening here. And what you know,

(01:31:35):
what the European what the Ukrainians need to understand is
that they really don't hold many of the cards. I
know Trump took a lot of criticism for using that
line the last time that that Zelenski was in town,
but he's right. You know, the Ukrainians they are providing
the people, There's no question about it. And it's a
tremendous sacrifice for them, but they cannot continue this war
without foreign support, specifically ours and the Europeans. So if

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the Europeans want to deal on, the Americans want to deal,
and the Russians want to deal, there's going to be
a deal. And I think that's what Trump is trying
to tee up here, which is, look, there's a there's
a deal to be had here. Let's let's let's take
it to the next level and find how far we
can get.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Well, speaking of the deal, there are some who are
suggesting that that Trump is going to recommend that Zelenski
give up Crimea and potentially give up some other regions
that aren't currently being held by Russia, and also to
make sure that Ukraine does not join NATO. Do you
think those are the things that he potentially could bring

(01:32:31):
up when he's in the one on one with Zelensky
before he actually goes into the meeting with the European
Union leaders, simply because they have suggested that they they
would not agree to the idea of Ukraine giving up territory.

Speaker 11 (01:32:45):
Yeah, I mean, go back. We've had this conversation, bet,
I don't know what eighteen months ago, maybe I can't remember.
My position was that everybody knows, so the war ends.
The war ends with Russia taking some part of Ukrainian
territory in exchange for closer relations ships between Ukraine and
the West. That doesn't look like NATO membership. It looks
like something else. I keep coming back, by the way,

(01:33:06):
so that the thing that doesn't get nearly enough attention,
which is the critical minerals deal that Trump negotiated, which
is true genius because what it is effectively is a
security guarantee without that allows the Russians to say, face,
it's a security guarantee without a security guarantee, because everybody
knows that Russia won't invade Ukraine if there's an American
mining company there. So that's put that aside. For a second.

(01:33:29):
Crime is gone. It just is. Crimea is not coming
back to be part of Ukraine. And I hate to
sound cavalier about that, but no one really serious believes
that Crimea is going to become part of Ukraine permanently. Here.
The real question is whether or not it's going to
be a de facto sort of control by Russia or
an officially sanctioned and recognized control by Russia. But I

(01:33:51):
think it bears repeating that when Russia invaded Ukraine, what
five years ago, maybe eight years ago? Now, good, it's
been a long time. He didn't go to war. The
Ukrainians didn't even go to war. I mean, everybody knows
Crimea is that history of Crimea is different. And if
the Ukrainians aren't willing to go to ward to maintain
their own territory, then I don't think we're going to
be willing to keep going supporting them over that particular issue.

(01:34:14):
The issue is going to be Dombas and Denetsk, which
is the eastern part of the country, some of which
the Russians control now, some of which they don't. The
Russians want all the stuff, even the stuff they don't control,
in the eastern Ukraine. I think that's going to be
a negotiating point. But Crimea is not coming back to
part of Ukraine. And if the Ukrainians get up as
Lensky he gets up at the table, thanks the table

(01:34:35):
and says I'm not doing anything until Crimea comes back,
he will be on his own because I don't even
think the Europeans will back him on that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
Going back to Friday, just coming out of that particular
meeting with Putin, the reporters who were there, and I'm
talking about reporters like Peter Alexander from NBC and the
Fox News correspondent Jackie Heinrich talking about the body language
of Caroline Levitt coming out of Steve Whitcoff coming out
that they looked ashen, that they looked wide eyed. And

(01:35:04):
then Donald Trump, even when he addressed folks, when he
addressed the press, seemed more subdued. So people are wondering,
and I'm wondering your thoughts on this, that that this meeting,
that he wanted this meeting to happen really quickly so
that he could regain footing in the negotiations, because people
like Jackie Heinrich from Fox said that they believed from

(01:35:27):
the way that people were behaving coming out of that
meeting that Putin might have steamrolled the meeting.

Speaker 11 (01:35:35):
Again, I cautioned everybody on sort of reading into things
like body language and whether or not Carolyn Levitt was
ashen or wide eyed when she came in to the
out of the meeting. Granted that's those are fair data points,
but and there's always value to being present, to seeing
people's face to you know, face to face and so forth.
I don't want to diminish it entirely, but to read,

(01:35:56):
you know, to go from oh my goodness, it was
action wide eyed too. Oh Putin must have steamrolled Trump.
That that's a connection that I don't make. If Putin
had steamrolled Trump, then I don't know why we're having
the meetings today because I'm not really sure how Putin
would steamroll Trump, and I'm not sure what that would
look like in any event. But why why call, you know,

(01:36:17):
eight world leaders to Washington to say, oh, by the way, boys,
I just got steamrolled last week. Now what do we
do that that conversation doesn't take place? That that's that
is that is a that's not sort of in the
cards here today. So the beautiful thing about working with
Donald Trump is that you're gonna know, you can watch
you can watch the press of this afternoon because there's
gonna be one uh, and you can make up your

(01:36:38):
own decisions. He's the probably singly most transparent politician I've
ever met. He's not going to keep a lot of secrets.

Speaker 4 (01:36:44):
News Talk eleven ten WBT will continue with Mick mulvaney
Bowen Beth here on a Monday morning.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
This is good morning.

Speaker 4 (01:36:52):
Bat back at it here in a Monday morning, nine
thirty seven, bow in Beth here and in the in
the southernmost GMBT Bureau that you can get. I mean,
it's we're talking about the Key West. It's Mick mulvaney
calling in this morning on the hot line. Thanks again
for holding on.

Speaker 11 (01:37:12):
Yeah, Tom, Beth, I think I do this segment from
the ocean itself. Can stand in the ocean and do
the segment.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
Well, you know, I mean someday we're going to do
it there with you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
That's that's the right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
I think you need to splash some water. Improve it
to us, Nick that you are in fact in the
ocean today.

Speaker 4 (01:37:28):
So as we're talking about the meeting that is coming
up today at the White House, you know, Beth was
mentioning before the news about some of the interpretations, you know,
based on what reporters had seen that we're in Alaska
on Friday. Some were describing it as a possible situation
where could you say that Trump got steamrolled by Vladimir Putin.
That was the take of one or two of them.

(01:37:50):
Now there's also the notion that or the the idea
that perhaps by the time this is all over today,
that Vladimir Zelensky could be steam rolled by President Trump
and the rest of the people involved. Here, I want
to play a clip from Face the Nation yesterday. This
is Margaret Brennan talking with Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

Speaker 12 (01:38:10):
You know, there is concern from the Europeans that President
Zelensky is going to be bullied into signing something away.
That's why you have these European leaders coming as back
up tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:38:22):
Can you No, It isn't that's real short comings. That's
not true. But that's not why why that's not true.
They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
They're not They're coming here tomorrow.

Speaker 12 (01:38:33):
The television cameras where President Zelenski.

Speaker 15 (01:38:36):
You know how many meetings you?

Speaker 12 (01:38:38):
Oh, no, I know, And I was just up there
one with Vladimir Putin where a red carpet rules rule.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
We've had more meetings we've had We've had We've had
one meeting with Putin and like a dozen meetings with Zelenski.
So that but that's not true. They're not coming here
tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied. They're coming here
tomorrow because we've been working with the Europeans. We talked
to them last week. There were meetings in the UK
over the follow the previous weekend, and they said as
early as Thursday. But you said that they're coming here

(01:39:06):
tomorrow to keep Zelensky for being bullied. They're not coming
here tomorrow. Oh, this is such a stupid media narrative
that they're coming here tomorrow because the Trump is going
to bully Zelensky into a bad deal. We've been working
with these people for weeks, for weeks on this stuff.
They're coming here tomorrow because they chose to come here tomorrow.
We invited them to come. We invited them to come.
The President invited them to come.

Speaker 12 (01:39:27):
But the President told those European leaders last week that
he wanted to ceasefire. The President went on television said
he would walk out of the meeting if Vladimir Putin
didn't agree with on He said there would be severe
consequences if he didn't agree to one. He said he'd
walk out in two minutes. He spent three hours talking
to Vladimir Putin. Then he did not get one.

Speaker 5 (01:39:44):
So there's obviously something things happened during that meeting. Well,
because obviously things look Our goal here is not to
stage some production for the world to say, oh, how dramatic,
he walked out. Our goal here is to have a
peace agreement to end this war, okay. And obviously we
felt and I agreed, that there was enough progress, not
a lot of progress, but enough progress made in those
talks to allow us to move to the next phase.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
If not, we wouldn't be having.

Speaker 5 (01:40:07):
Zelensky flying all the way over here. We wouldn't be
having all the Europeans coming all the way over here.
Now understand and take with a grain of salt. I'm
not saying we're on the verge of a piece deal,
but I am saying that we saw movement, enough movement
to justify a follow up meeting with Zelensky and the Europeans,
enough movement for us to dedicate even more time to this.

Speaker 4 (01:40:24):
Okay. So that was CBS's face the nation yesterday. Rubio
went on three different shows, so he was the chosen,
you know, talking head of the administration to be out
and delivered this message on the Sunday before the day. Now,
Mick mulvaney, look, whatever you think is happening behind the scenes, here.
I think everybody can agree. Even the President has got

(01:40:47):
it in the back of his mind as to what
happened the last time there was an official televised meeting
between Zelensky and Trump. We know that it got explosive
and he left the White House and it was a
pretty it was a spectacle. So there is that backdrop.
And curious as to how much you think that figures
into how this goes today.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Not much.

Speaker 11 (01:41:05):
I think Marco, by the way I'd read about that interview,
had not heard it until you just play it. I
mean Marco mentioned that, which is like, look, we've had
several meetings with Zelenski since that meeting, and so is
it part of the backdrop? Is there a data point
that meeting. Yes, it absolutely is. It is the only one. No,
And I got to tell you, you know, having formally
worked at CBS, I'm so glad I don't work there.

(01:41:27):
That's such. That is such horrible journalism by Mark Brennan.
To say that the Europeans are coming here is back
up to Zelenski. There's no basis for that. This is
a reporter essentially making a judgment call over Washstone's coming
to supposed asking why are these people coming? You think
that's a fair question to ask. Why are they coming?
And the point that they can't come on out being invited,
I think bears repeating again and again for all the

(01:41:49):
journalists out there, all the people out there, Oh, oh
my goodness, the Europeans are rushing here to make sure
that Trump doesn't beat up on Selenski.

Speaker 15 (01:41:56):
No they're not.

Speaker 11 (01:41:58):
They can't do that. Again, you don't just walk into
the White House. You have to be invited, So that
that narrative is entirely wrong. I think what Trump wants
to do is get everybody in the room and talk.
That's what he likes to do. Why did he Why
did he meet with Putin? Because he wants to meet
face to face? Why is he calling all these people
to Washington to meet face to face? What's lost on this,
by the way, is that everybody's coming to him. That

(01:42:20):
Putin came to him and not albeing in Alaska, and
now the Europeans are coming to him. So I think
that that that sort of shows you where the where
the center of power here is in the negotiations. But look,
I think Marco's probably right that they're closer than you
were last week, and at least enough progress was made
to justify the next meeting. To Brennan's point about how well,

(01:42:42):
Trump said he'd walk away if he didn't get a ceasefire,
and he didn't get a ceasfire, So why did he
walk away? That's fair and that's Trump using his traditional
sort of hyperbole to say, Oh, you know, I won't
be afraid to walk away. Look, I've been in meetings
when he walked away. We walked out of the meeting
with Kim Jong un because we couldn't get a deal.
But Trump is not going to be feel like just
because he said if I can't get a deal walking
out in threat minutes, that he's going to actually behold

(01:43:03):
the be held to that. If he feels like he's
making progress, he'll stay. If you feels like he's not
making progress, he leaves. That's I've seen him do that
a dozen times.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
You know, I'm gonna ask the question again because of
the fact that you know Zelensky is coming to to
Washington and Putin did come to Alaska, that that the
these leaders are coming to Donald Trump, especially the fact
that Putin came to Alaska. Why do you think that
Donald Trump has not been able to get Vladimir Putin

(01:43:32):
to back down.

Speaker 11 (01:43:34):
Yeah, that's that's that's that's a really good question. And
I think the answer is this is that Putin still
feels like he gets a better deal on the field
in battle than he does at at the negotiating table,
that he looks his hands over and said, well, you
know what, this war is killing me. But the Europeans
aren't gonna They can't do anything because they don't have

(01:43:55):
any money or the or the political will to do it.
The Americans have the political will, the political will, and
the money, but they don't want to do it because
Trump doesn't want to get involved more in an overseas
war and so forth. So I think he's doing the
calculation It says I'm still going to do better in
the field, which is why I don't want to negotiate.
What do we talk about last week in the show
re establishing credibility that Trump has to figure out a

(01:44:17):
way to make Putin want to go to the negotiating table,
and I don't think they figure out how to do
that yet.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
If the negotiation leads to Ukraine giving up different parts
of their country more than just crimea do you think
that that emboldens Vladimir Putin and then he ends up
ultimately invading other countries and wanting more because he's getting
his way with a war that he started.

Speaker 11 (01:44:47):
It's a risk, there's no question, and that goes back
to the conversation about appeasement and how we treated Hitler,
you know, in the nineteen thirties and so forth, when
we you know, effectively gave him Czechoslovakia. So the parallels
there are not lost on folks who read and study history.
That being said, there's a couple of different dynamics here.
Ukraine is I think you could make the argument that

(01:45:10):
Ukraine is somewhat unique in that part of the world
in that it has the long term connections with Russia.
A lot of the people in the eastern part of
the country are Russian background and so forth, and it's
not a NATO country. You go to the rest of
the European countries that people worry about, Finland, the Baltic States, Poland,

(01:45:33):
those are all NATO countries, and an invasion they are
attacked by Russia into any of those automatically triggers a
NATO response. Ukraine has been different. They've not been a
NATO member, there were some agreements regarding them, the withdrawal
of nuclear weapons that we look like we haven't lived
up to, but no one seems to pay attention to that.
But it's not We simply don't have a relationship with

(01:45:54):
Ukraine that we do with the NATO or our NATO allies. Again,
Ukraine is not an ally. They're a friend, but they're
not an ally, and there's a difference there.

Speaker 4 (01:46:02):
Understanding what you alluded to and what Marco Rubio essentially
said that there have been more meetings than the one
that we last saw that we remember where the blow
up happened. But we know how badly Trump wants this
to wants to close the deal so to speak. Here today.
We also know that do Lensky has pushed back some
even since this meeting on Friday. What do you think

(01:46:23):
the likely I mean, we know that both men can
have short fuses if they are drawn to that point,
and we saw it a few months ago. What are
you thinking of the possibility at all today that this one,
if it goes south, could end the way the last
one did, meaning the dramatics.

Speaker 11 (01:46:40):
Well, I think it's a chance for that. I mean,
I think it's a chance of Trump goes in and says, look,
I got a deal. I think. I think there's a
deal to be had here along the lines of Crimea,
don bask and Denetsk. And you know, if the Europeans
and the and he thinks that's a fair deal, I
think it's a good deal. He believes that that that
putin will deliver or at least a verifiable type of agreement.

(01:47:02):
And the Europeans say, no, we're in this until until
Crimea comes back, which I don't think they'll do. But
if they were to say that, Trump is completely capable
of standing up, washing his hands and says, boys and girls, congratulations,
this is now your war. I'm out. This is it.
I'm done. I gave you a deal, I gave you
a possibility. I think it was a fair deal. I
think it was an enforceable deal. I think it was
a verifiable deal. Clearly, you people are interested in continuing

(01:47:24):
this war. I am not. I'm washing my hands of it.
Good luck. I don't think that's going to happen. But
you ask me, it's a chance. I think it's absolutely
a chance that happens.

Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
I'm going to wash my hands of this segment and
be done with it because we have to get over break,
so we will be back with one more justly. I
really enjoyed that said, but I do have to move
on because I'll get in trouble if I don't. Boomer
von Cannon is tapping his foot waiting for him. Hey,
I'm loving it. To keep home, man, come home, love it,
vot good segment.

Speaker 15 (01:47:48):
I love this.

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
We don't say that because I will. I know I
love it.

Speaker 11 (01:47:52):
I do it to it.

Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
This is Good Morning Beat, final moments here on Good
Morning BT Bowen Beth and Mick mulvaney, who joins us
on the hotline today from Florida. And we've talked a
lot about the meeting that is coming up in a
few hours at the White House with President Trump and
Zelenski and seven other European leaders. But there's another story

(01:48:18):
I want to get to before we get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
And we would be remiss if we didn't ask you
about this. We have you for a few more minutes now.
Governor Newsom of California has been making waves online and
with a press conference over the past week. His press
office has been sending out x posts that are similar
in nature to post on truth social from Donald Trump.

(01:48:42):
I'll just read one, a little bit of one to you.
This is again from the Governor Newsom Press office X account.
It says Trump just fled the podium with putin, no questions, nothing,
total low energy. The man looked like he'd just eaten
three buckets of KFC with Vlad. Is he afraid that
the press will ask about me America's favorite governor and

(01:49:03):
the fact that I stole the cameras this week with
the maps? And of course, Gavin Newsom is referring to
the special election that he has called for to get
redistricting done in California as a result of the conversation that,
according to reports, President Trump had with Governor Greg Abbott
of Texas that is leading to their redistricting and the

(01:49:23):
fact that Democrats left the state of Texas. It has
been a gigantic story on top of all of the
international headlines. What do you make of what Governor Gavin
Newsom is doing? By kind of you would I think
a lot of people would call it trolling the president
online by sending out X posts that look a lot
like President Trump's posts.

Speaker 11 (01:49:44):
Look, you know, I'm not a big Gavin Newsom fan.
But I gotta tell you, if I'm just sort of
a disinterested third party looking at this, this is a genius.
It just is. First of all, we're talking about it.
My guess is that Gavin wants to do a couple
of things. He really wants to get under Donald Trump's skin.
Absolutely going to do this. He's trying to raise his,
you know, sort of profile as a leader of the

(01:50:05):
Democrat parties that go into the twenty twenty eight primary
for president, and that's doing this, and he's trying to
establish himself as the anti Trump. I've read a lot
of them. They're funny. They just are. I mean, if
you're gonna have a sense of humor about politics, you
can't help but giggle at some of them. It's really
really well done. I think the guy's you know, probably
a threat to the economic health of the country, but
it's it's been very, very entertaining, and I think that's

(01:50:28):
probably what it's meant to be.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
Do you think Trump dares respond to any of them
or does he stay above the phrase as far as
that goes?

Speaker 11 (01:50:34):
Oh, great question. If I know the man's I'm not
gonna do anything. I'm not gonna do it. They're not
going to do anything, and all of a sudden two
o'clock in the morning, he'll do something.

Speaker 4 (01:50:45):
Eight responses in the middle of the night.

Speaker 11 (01:50:46):
Right, So look, it's he lives on Twitter. He does
he you know true social is he lives on social media.
He's reading every single one of those. If he tells
you you know that I haven't seen it, that's not
that's not true. Like him saying he doesn't watch MSNBC,
he watches it cover to cover. So look, it's it's
it's it's it's fun politics. And again, if I'm if

(01:51:08):
I'm a political advisor to Gavin Newsom, I think he's
doing the exact right thing.

Speaker 4 (01:51:12):
Mick Mulvaan I.

Speaker 11 (01:51:13):
Like him, but doesn't mean it doesn't mean he's wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:51:15):
We are out of time. We appreciate yours as always,
and we'll talk to you next time. Thanks Jesson there
he is, McK mlvainy. You see him on News Nation,
see him many many other places. Former White House chief
and staff and of course South Carolina congressman. That'll rap
it on a busy Monday. Thanks to a Steve and
Steve and good talk, Beth.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
You thrilled me. Today, bo

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