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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes, we got it. Hey, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
We got a HIPing hot Mike.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Yeah, a lot of a lot of fuzzy bounce on
those upper eqs.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
What kick in the pants from News Talk eleven ten
and ninety nine three double beat, Move.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
Over my lasses and ladders and make wait for you
so rocking dead.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
This is good Morning Beating with Bo Thompson and Beth
Trout with Hello.

Speaker 5 (00:21):
First time here, and the goose says hello to you too.

Speaker 6 (00:47):
I haven't seen your best football you all right, We're gonna
put this thing together, the whole thing, right, But it's
about how we battle.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
But the bottom line is we just fight.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
We don't know how to do anything else, but just
keep fighting and we always finish because that's who we are.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Your quarterback, Your quarterback.

Speaker 7 (01:05):
Fifteen to twenty two O six Green tuxas seven point
one rating.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
That's career high.

Speaker 8 (01:14):
Right, beautiful day league.

Speaker 9 (01:28):
That works a lot better than Sarah Barrells would let.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, perhaps the Panthers inspired my brain. I was wondering
where the song came from, and now now it could
be our our cats.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
It can't cats. It came from nineteen ninety two is
where it came from. Thereabouts.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
But let those boys be boys beat the number one
team in the country, the league or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
How are we feeling today, Feeling good? That was That
was a big win, and that was the best team
coming in the NFL. They were the number one seed
in the NFC coming in. Matt Stafford was the MVP
leading guy, and they got three takeaways on him. He
had not thrown an interception. Like at nine games and
twenty five touchdown.

Speaker 10 (02:11):
Pass we have a half of the picks on the
season of Matt Stafford and came against Dalen Panthers.

Speaker 9 (02:16):
Yeah, all that all that was catch made about him
having not thrown an interception and then he comes out
and throws two.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I mean, what a loser, one six to one.

Speaker 9 (02:25):
So now they have a buy a get a late
season by then you go to New Orleans and then
you still got Tampa Bay they won yesterday, you still
got them twice and the Seahawks. So it's all in
front of you there. I mean, the Panthers destiny is
in their hands.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I was joking on many an interview this week, they said,
what do you think, so happy said, we're gonna win
because we lose and then we win. Then we lose,
then we win, and it is our turn to win
because mathematically it said so, and I was right. Sometimes
it's that simple. Every week we come in here, it's
like man fire the coach, fire the quarterback. And then
we went like we're going to know the super Bowl
and now we're back to being that team again. We

(02:58):
were at ten and a half point on Dog. Think of this.
I mean, that was not just a small upset. That
was a large upset.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Is it insane that we lost to the worst team
in the league and one against the best team in
the league. I think that's spectacular.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's like a.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's a terrible for life, though, you know, you just
get back up and you keep going.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's it's as we said, it's tough thumping.

Speaker 9 (03:24):
Now again, we always sort of point back to this.
You have been in that booth for every single game,
all the way back to day one working for the
Carolina Panthers radio network. Does this Does this run that
we're on feel similar to another year to you?

Speaker 10 (03:38):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
It feels different. Honestly. It's such an up and down
because usually you get like on like a like a
hot streak where you win six in a row or something.
Like that. So this this has been a different team
and and they are kind of schizophrenic. You go, well,
you gotta figure it out. We can't figure out anything.
So it's just like it's it's it's different, I think
than any of their teams, and so I don't think
you can compare this team to that. I think part

(03:59):
of it is still trying to find who they are.
I still think we still have to figure out. I mean,
Brice finished with two hundred yards, basically two hundred and
six yards. I'm not a big stats guy, but his
two big passes came on fourth downs on long passes,
which to me is like the last thing I would do.
I would like throw a four yard pass, try to
pick the first down up to keep a drive going
with a quarterback that is kind of hot and cold.

(04:22):
To get those thirty three and forty three yard touchdowns
on fourth and twos and fourth and threes kind of
goes against any thought process of what you would think
would be a high percentage play. And they both worked
out for touchdowns, and without those, we don't win. I
mean it took every bit of all that to win
thirty one to twenty eight.

Speaker 9 (04:37):
Do you think It's a good thing for a team
that gets a win like that, a signature win, best
team in the league. Now to go on a late
season by like, is that going to be good for
them to sort of to take stock and get ready
for those final games or is it do you want
to ride that momentum? Do you want to play again soon?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Usually I would want that, you want to get back
out there, got the hot hand, keep going, But we
had so many guys out for this game, which makes
the upset even more improbable, especially on defense. That it
comes at a great time. You have two guys in
concussion protocol, you got Trayvon marrag on a on a suspension,
and then you have other injuries. I think it's actually good.
And the next game is on the road at New Orleans,

(05:15):
at that bad team that we were supposed to hopefully
beat in the first time. Got to get ready for
that point. Yeah, get ready for that and again go
on the road as opposed to being at home. So
I think it hits it a good time just to
get some bodies healed up, even though late in the season,
to have a bye week.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'm just excited.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, I mean, it's happy to be here right. She
just watched both teams have a good.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Time, and they seemed like they had some fun because
it was a pretty close game.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
It was nice too because the Rams, for whatever reason,
I guess you don't LA is not as passionate most
teams have like a big travel base here like the
forty nine ers whatever is San Francisco has a ton
of visiting fans. LA also from California's we don't know,
does not have many that were there. So it felt
like a true home. Like when the crowd was cheering,
it was for the Panthers. It was not like when
the Ram scored you heard cheering or anything like that.

(06:03):
So I thought it was great. There was just a
fine home environment. I thought the rain was kind of inspiring.
I think the fans kind of got into the groove.
Like you're from LA, you can't deal with rain and
cold weather and all that. It was pounding with it,
and I felt like the more it rained and the
more the wind blew that the better the Panthers played
and the fans got into it. Well, it's it's a look.

Speaker 9 (06:21):
You would have had the reason to think the Panthers
would have been sluggish in this one because they played
on Monday night. But they go to the West Coast
and and and lose a disappointing game and then come
back and do that. You gotta feel good. Now you've
got some time to rest and to play into what
Jim is saying.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Why did it? Was all going? Come on, we're having
a good time. You set it on the tee. You're
never gonna say the word rain ever again. I gotta
stay with it. Now they're ready.

Speaker 9 (06:52):
The Homer pile take them into town, Marsh.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Rain, All right, there we go, Booler Rascal play six
thirteen on WBT. Boomer Von Cannon, John Watch out. We're
going from football cleats the cowboy boots. Here we are
how we do it in Charlotte. And actually we are
going to Kyotie Joe's to go celebrate the wind ride

(07:19):
us a bull.

Speaker 9 (07:20):
Yes, we are going to talk about some rain coming up,
because this week could be dicey with the weather depending
on where you are. Race Stagic from the Weather Channel
standing by coming up at six twenty here on WBT.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
You played that for Ray. I was just trying to
get back to this party.

Speaker 11 (07:35):
Was Marsh.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Says, worship Literally, I should say what I'm giving sud
in the bath now just because of this song. Even
the most country people don't say worship. You're gonna worship buddy.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
My cousin used to say, worsh worshipsher.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Here mash a button.

Speaker 12 (07:53):
Well that's.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Boomer.

Speaker 9 (07:57):
Everybody wasshed up today, all washed there we there we go.
You know who you know who is washed up? Who
the rams are washed up? Stafford's that was a long
flight home for them.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
That's right, man.

Speaker 11 (08:11):
This is good morning Bet with both Humpson and Beth
trout Man, News.

Speaker 9 (08:18):
Talk eleven ten WBT, the first day of December.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Can you believe it?

Speaker 9 (08:23):
We're here, meaning it's here the month. I'm here, Beth's here,
and you are here. And guess who is on the
WBT hotline right now. It is Weather Channel meteorologist Ray Stagic.
Good morning, sir, Welcome to December.

Speaker 13 (08:37):
Good morning, meteorological winter right on Q right.

Speaker 9 (08:41):
Well, yeah, I mean a lot of people sort of
forget that the end of hurricane season now, the Atlantic
hurricane season technically is the end of November, not October,
but November. And so we're one day removed, and I
know we have some potential weather to talk about here
this week near US as far as winter goes. But
let's talk talk about what we just closed the door on,

(09:01):
which is a hurricane season where we did not see
a single storm make atlantic or make a United States
mainland land fall.

Speaker 13 (09:10):
Yeah, and that to me, considering what the preseason predictions were,
seems almost unfathomable. You think that, let's just say, most
of the predictions for the season were around high teens
or low twenties in terms of named storms, and I
think we ended up with it was either twelve or thirteen.

(09:31):
I'm sorry, I don't remember. I think Melissa was the
last name storm that we hadn't we can't say that
it can't happen in December, January Fary, in any month,
but the chances are very very low. So now as
we get out of hurricane season to get into meteorological winter,
it's like somebody just kind of just flipped the switch

(09:52):
and here we are already had one pretty significant storm
in the northern US, went through the Great Lake States,
the midwest. Chicago had the snowy is November day on
record over the weekend. I think it was about eight
and a half inches, give or take. And now another
storm I'm going to give them more snow and some
snow maybe into the northeast and New England with this
first system this week, which by the way, will be

(10:13):
rained here, and then later in the week we might
have to deal with another storm that could kind of
wedge in enough cold air that even locally, maybe a
long shot at some light wintery presepe in there.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
What. Yeah, because it's always interesting when Ray sends a
forecast and it says we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, that feels a little too early for us to
see the winter precipitation. But I mean people who are
trying Today's a big travel day, people who've been trying
to travel over the weekend and trying to travel even today,
or are running up against some weather problems.

Speaker 13 (10:49):
Yeah, is that a little too vague. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 9 (10:54):
Wait, Look, I've been talking to you long enough that
I can read the code, and when I see that
it means okay, rain.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Forty cold.

Speaker 9 (11:04):
You know it's not out of the realm of possibility.
So we'll watch this and when I see you say that,
that means Friday night is something you should thumbtack. And
you know, we'll check on this in a few days.

Speaker 13 (11:16):
Yeah, and this first event coming in, let's separate amount
will be mainly liquid. As we head on through tonight
and tomorrow morning, I mean early, especially if you go
west and north, and it may not be too far
western north, there might be a wet snowflake or sleep pellet,
but it's into the mountains of western North Carolina where
there could be some light icing. And when we say light,

(11:39):
we're talking less than a tenth of an inch, because
I think it even there it's gonna warm up, just
not enough deep cold there coming in to give us
any significant chances of wintery presept even in the mountains,
but a cold rain down the lesson. Then later in
the week we may get wedged in a little bit more.
Some cold air damning doesn't look maybe as aggressive as

(11:59):
it look maybe yesterday with some of yesterday's model runs.
But we still got a few days to go. And
as we go through Friday night Saturday, maybe briefly some
frozen precipitation on the onset depends on the timing overnight
Friday into early Saturday. If some sleet or wet snow
or even some light freezing rain, and then it looks
like probably changed the rain there too also, So just

(12:23):
just not enough deep cold there to give us a
blanket of white as we get into the first few
days of the month of December. But if this pattern holds,
there may be opportunities down the road as we head
toward the middle end, yes even toward Christmas time, of
maybe some more wintry weather, because it does look like
at least the northeastern quarter quadrant of the US is

(12:45):
going to stay below normal in terms of temperatures. I
cut off this kind of the mid Atlantic in the
southeast where we're gonna get these little shots of cold
there coming in. The question is going to be where
we have PRESI lining up just in time to give
a chance of maybe some winter increases, but right now
doesn't look significant even toward the end of the week.

(13:06):
But we've got to watch closely because if it is
that old freezing rain word that's the ice, usually it
doesn't take much to cross problems with that.

Speaker 9 (13:14):
I saw somewhere over the weekend as somebody said, you're
going to hear this phrase cold air damning, and she said, actually,
I say it the reverse order, damn that cold air.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
And well it does seem remarkable that it was like
a week and a half ago in the seventies.

Speaker 13 (13:32):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy how quickly weather it can change.
And for the month, we've had, you know, a real
warm stretch. The warmest I think seventy nine on the
nineteen eighty on the twenty second was our warmest. So
the month is about three and a half degrees above
normal for the month of November. But now we're going
to begin December with below average temperatures, and it looks

(13:57):
like that trend will continue for a few days and
get a little bit mild as we look ahead toward midweek,
maybe back into the low fifties, and then colder as
we look ahead toward Friday. I mean, either way, with
that cold air, damning wedge or whatever you want to
call it, on Friday, it's gonna be like rainy and
like upper thirties ten or forty, and then mid thirties
at night Friday night to early Saturday. So either way,

(14:20):
it's going to be pretty miserable out there. So maybe
you can reverse the way you say.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
That, actually like that it would be damn. The air
is cold.

Speaker 13 (14:29):
It's gonna be dark cold, dark cold, and damp, and
we'll see about any winter re priets. But the good
news is is that it does happen to fall on
the weekend. It's not a holiday weekend. So if it
does get a little messy out there, at least briefly,
we should be okay. It's right, acc championship in town
the coming weekend, so hopefully we'll get that out just

(14:49):
in time.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Welcome to winter, Dad Burnett. That's how I'll say.

Speaker 9 (14:53):
All right, Ray, we'll stay in touch with you throughout
the week ads we get closer.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Thank you so much. All right, see there he is
race stage.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
Yeah, he sent me a note this morning, or he
sent us the forecast, but it says Friday rain, cold,
forty degrees dot dot. We will see what happens at night.
That is a race stagic code for hold on to
that thought.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
You can tell when Ray is surprising me with his
weather forecast. Because I just end up doing a background
of sound effects. I forget that I have a microphone.
Poor Birdie looks at me like, did you just realize
you made that noise?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Some noises that are just awesome to hear with headphones on.
As soon as Ray finished Dirty Restaurant Tuesday, well early
exactly right.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's the same kind of feeling like, oh, I don't
want that.

Speaker 9 (15:43):
So you know, I kept seeing the weather models all weekend,
and if you look at the first system that he's
talking about, you can see this winter storm where the
further you go north it gets pretty intense, but then
the layers go down and we're just below where there's
really any effect as far as winter weather goes. Now, rain, yes,
and we had rain yesterday and more more dealings with

(16:05):
that earlier this week. It's vog this morning too. But
like you said, that that second storm later in the
week is one that could turn into something more than
it is right now, or at least it looks right
now rare rain stage.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Rain, stagic and is there anything more uncomfortable than cold rain?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
That's what you call raw.

Speaker 9 (16:23):
It's raw, feels raw outside.

Speaker 11 (16:25):
Yeah, we'll be ready.

Speaker 14 (16:33):
We'll get Murder to supply us with the traps, will
burn the sucker, send them scampering home to its master,
but not before we stick them with one of these.
We'll track the demo across the upside down in the
squawk van, just like we did with Hopper, and if
we're lucky, the demo will lead us back to its lair,
to Becna, to Holly.

Speaker 11 (16:55):
Holes.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's what ada.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
If they ever And.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Every season there's a song.

Speaker 9 (17:24):
There was that Kate Bush song a few years ago,
and there was Journey and now, because it's nineteen eighty
seven on Stranger Things, this means Debbie Gibson can't be
far behind. It's an electric youth or Suzanne Vega.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I hope it's lost in your eyes.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
That would have been that would have been eighty nine.

Speaker 9 (17:46):
Though the fact that you're pretty sorry that I know that,
I know that we literally scared Steve out of the
room just now.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well, I it's hilarious to me because I could care
about anything. So I've never seen it.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
You've never seen Stranger Things.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
My son Andy is like bo check the value, guy,
trust the value. He loved it and he loves it.
I guess still. But it's like he said, you'd love it.
It's all about eighties references and this that. Yeah, I
suffered through what I would say, the first three episodes,
I was so bored. I couldn't stand well.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I loved season one, I loved season one, Season two,
I was you still the last season I was kind
of like, er, what is this Russia story?

Speaker 7 (18:28):
Left out?

Speaker 1 (18:29):
The best season?

Speaker 15 (18:29):
Though?

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Season three is my favorite season.

Speaker 9 (18:32):
Season three is is the star cork Mall season.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Okay, okay, we had a new coke and ill yeah,
because all of the references. Well, I will tell you
this season so far. I mean we're four episodes in.
I loved it. We binged. I was a little under
the weather over the holiday, so I was just kind
of under a blanket and we binged, and it's it's

(18:55):
heady and fun and the best reference in the entire thing. Guys,
I had no memory of these snacks until they showed
them on the screen, and then my memory came back
and I missed them. The Boppers, the boppers with peanut
butter and like the rice crispy ish crunchy coating. I
had forgotten about the boppers, and now I want them

(19:17):
back in grocery stores.

Speaker 9 (19:18):
We should probably write about now say that if you
plan on watching and haven't yet, you should probably turn
the radio down.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Because I apparently ruined Steve's life because I said once
you should.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Do an hour on this show. So is Steve.

Speaker 13 (19:31):
Well?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I cried at the end of episode four. I'm going
to tell you out of happiness.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I did not know.

Speaker 9 (19:37):
I was not expecting you to have come back and
watched everything. I knew I was going to watch it.
My son and I were looking forward to this, but
I knew that you were sort of not really on
board with it so.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Well last season, the whole Russia storyline, and there were
just so many things. I was like, Oh, y'all are
taken too long.

Speaker 9 (19:51):
Well, Steve is not in the room for this segment,
because Steve has not watched it yet. And Beth in
one sentence which I will not say so as not
to disappoint any listeners who are in Steve's boat, but
you basically said one sentence that gave away the big
reveal at the end of the first four episodes, which
is a big, big thing if you've been watching this

(20:13):
since the very beginning. Now, to Zoke's point, I know
some people out there that Jim cried. But to Jim's
point about starting to watch it and sort of falling
by the wayside, because it's a lot. It is a
lot like if you haven't watched since the beginning, there's
a lot. Part of the problem with Stranger Things is
they take these three year hiatuses and so by the
time you're watching again, you're like, wait a minute, I

(20:34):
have to sort of like I need to watch it
all over again to remember what happened.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well, I went to YouTube before we started the new
four episodes. We went to YouTube and watched like a
ten minute recap. And I'm going to tell you there
are some people out there that did good recaps, but
they really need to go back and listen to their
voiceovers because they say every sentence. And then he went
to the mall and then he ate some chocolate and
I it almost drove me crazy, but I sat through

(20:58):
it because I may not want to watch it. No, no, no,
this was the recap. These were the recaps. These are
the recaps on YouTube. Beth's recap, Beth's three word recap.
What she said to Steve made him storm out of
the room like he's gone.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
And he always he always I can't unhear it because
he knows.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
He was standing just now outside of the studio in
the glass with his fingers in his ears.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
It's like, episode four, is it that big of a thing?
Like it's not like a season ender.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Delightful and it was surprised, but it changes everything. It
changes everything in all of the best possible ways. But
it's it's it's another one of those like moments in
life where if you just if you just realize your
own worth, you don't know what you're capable of.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
And I think for everybody else, you really need to
stop for everything. You don't even knowing it, just stopped
watching after season one and you just ruined it for him.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
But isn't it a beautiful message.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
Though the beauty I don't know yet that was all
going really watched, No, no, no, But you're like, you're
acting like the season is over, like like the two.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
So so it's going somewhere specta. Well, here's the deal.

Speaker 9 (22:08):
If you're not completely locked in on this, but maybe
you've you've you've tested it along the way, and maybe
you'll maybe you'll watch it based on this conversation. It's
three parts. So you had four episodes that came out
the night before Thanksgiving. The next three episodes I understand
are coming out on Christmas night day, yeah, and then
the finale is New Year's Eve, which they're gonna put

(22:28):
the finale in the theaters. I might be a person,
so you watch this at home.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
If you want to see how the show ends, you
have to go to the option. You can't. There's so
much going on with this show, guys.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
I like I said, the show almost lost me last season.
I was really I was really not into it last season.
And man, oh man, did the Duffer brothers come back
and write a.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Really good those are the premises? Are kids?

Speaker 13 (22:53):
Right?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, they're they're in high school now.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Well, as you said, the years go by, or they're not,
like they are forty their own kids. They are.

Speaker 9 (22:59):
It's starting to become like remember how you watched and
I Know two and Oz. Towards the end of that,
none of them were even remotely near the ages they were.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Like Andrea was already in the point where she needed
rent and all. Yeah, she was like thirty five.

Speaker 9 (23:11):
Like if you look at the difference between like eleven,
who is a Millie Bobby Brown the Star, she.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Looks just like Elizabeth Perkins, especially in this episode, if.

Speaker 9 (23:19):
You look at her, like I've seen a couple of
these these cgi things going around the net where it's
like the first season, like standing next to the arm
around the current one, it's like night and day.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
It's it's so good. This one's so good though, and
I may be over selling it, but I, like I said,
was not into last season, and this surprised me. That
I could binge watch four episodes of this. It surprised me.

Speaker 9 (23:43):
So there you go, Steve, you can come back in now.
We may have lost him for the whole show.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
You just need to know yourself coming here he comes.
So who was holding the knife at the end? General Custard?
I would they kill the parents?

Speaker 9 (24:00):
I don't know. Steve, I need He woke up in
bed and realized it was all a dream. Takes me
back to my favorite season of the show that that

(24:22):
Steve has never.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Watched ruined You know Steve's pack Steve, Well, but Steve
has seen this part. I don't know where you're going.
This is the theme to the Star Court Mall.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
We also, guys have been having an argument in here
over what I actually said that ruined it for Steve.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well. This is not a spoiler as far as the
plot of the show.

Speaker 9 (24:44):
But you remember back in that season that I said
that I liked season three, that this music may or
may not be from at the mall they had new coke,
because that was what eighty five, the year that that
season was nineteen eighty five. That's when New Coke came out,
and they actually did. Coke did a campaign where they
sold for a limited time Stranger Things themed bottles and

(25:05):
actually brought back New Coke Like I ordered some and
I still like saved the bottle at home.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I'm such a dork.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Because you don't want to drink it because it tastes like.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Near Coke urine. Wow, come on, there's a diet.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
You're a yeah, yeah, yeah you Coke was terrible, but
terrible Along those lines.

Speaker 9 (25:21):
For season number five, the season that you've jumped back
on the bandwagon.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
For, Oh they've got I'm on the bandwagon with a
cowboy hat, ready to ride in the hay.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
They have brought back glass Gatorade bottles because nineteen eighty
seven is when the gatoragged bottles and the Gator rigged gum.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Actually, if you remember that.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I was about to say, if they brought back gatorade gum,
I'd be here for it, just like Altoids brought back
their sour Altoid sours. If they would bring back the
Gatorade thirst quenching gum, I would buy. I'd be like you,
I'd put a. I have a closet of Gatorade gum.
I loved that stuff.

Speaker 9 (25:53):
I'm actually surprised that they haven't done that. Maybe they will,
but so for a limited time, Gatorade is bringing back
right around about now, in conjunction with the show being
back Stranger things. They've brought back a retro campaign, including
glass Gatorade bottles in some places. And then I think
there's some plastic bottles that are made to look like

(26:14):
glass bottles.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
To look like the glass.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, that's what I have seen, and that's what I
thought whenever I found out that it was the actual
glass that made me happier. I wish we kind of
go back to glass. Then we all wouldn't have microplastics
in our brain. Snapple, I loved Snapple glass bottles.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Wait, Snapple not in the glass plastic now, both ridiculous.
I did not know that.

Speaker 9 (26:36):
Let's see a couple of other things here. They're bringing
back the Citrus Cooler, which is a flavor that has
been discontinued for a long time for Gatorade, but was
big back in the eighties, so that you can get
if you find it in the right place. I don't
this is the kind of thing, and then they have
bought them all up by now. I don't know, because
I never actually bought the new coke in the store.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I actually ordered it.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
So if you grew up in the eighties like we did,
when you see this, this this glass bottle of the
Citrus cooler, you will immediately recognize the color and you
will remember the flavor. The Citrus cooler was that yellow,
that very brightish yellow colored version of Gatorade. And it
didn't taste great, but we all drank it. It was

(27:19):
that it was kind of what endorsement from that, I know,
I know it's sad, isn't it spoiling the seas?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
You want to go out and get some citrus cooler.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
It didn't taste great, but we all drank it. We
all drank it because it was it was kind of
the original Gatorad flavor.

Speaker 9 (27:35):
You're basically saying the same thing that with me in
the in the the coke Coke, I know it's not
really good, but it's nostalgic, yeah, kind of like and
uh so they're also remember in the in the very
early days, uh they if you looked on the bottle
that said Gatorade thirst quencher and then that's that's what's
back I mean. And again I've said this many times
with Stranger Things, like I'm invested from storyline standpoint, but

(27:59):
to point from a little earlier, there are times when
I roll my eyes because I'm like, Okay, this is
getting so convoluted and my head starting to hurt. But
the base, the reason I've always been drawn to this
show is because of the attention to eighties detail, like
whenever they walk into a convenience store, or there's actually
a there's a clip that's been going around the net

(28:19):
for about two or three weeks, kind of a preview clip,
and I don't know if I don't know if it's
happened yet, or maybe maybe it's later in the season.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
But the dad, you know, the dad that.

Speaker 9 (28:28):
Mike, Mike's Mike and what's your Name's dad, who's always
Mike and Nancy's dad, who's always kind of like the
bumbling sort of.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Like kind of looks like everyone's grandpa.

Speaker 9 (28:36):
Yeah, but he walks into a target for the first
time and you go around the store. And what I've
always loved about this series is like whenever they walk
into a convenience store, or anything. Just that's part of
the set if you pause, pause the Netflix and sort
of just scrutinize all the things that are on the shelf.
And it's so right to what it looked like in

(28:57):
nineteen eighty seven or whatever eighties that it is, that
part of it has always drawn me to it.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Just because I love that aspect of it.

Speaker 9 (29:03):
Not not to mention the songs and and the other references,
because we mentioned in our last segment that Tiffany, because
it's nineteen eighty seven her song I Think We're Alone Now,
is you know, very much part of the rage.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Just I just I just did a little Beth on
Steve right there. But I like how when you guys
do it, you stopped down to make sure that Steve
caught that you did Steve, well, I do. I think
what that was was a story plot that will ruin
the oide.

Speaker 9 (29:30):
What I love too is the first last day.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Wait, you see the target every detail, and.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
The target is the main point of the storyline. No,
it's not even in the targets, not in the first
four and the target is the main thing with No,
it's not we haven't even seen target yet.

Speaker 9 (29:47):
Well, I will say this from a business standpoint, you
may see glass bottle Gatorade out there.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Please bring back the boppers, Please bring back the peanut
butter Boppers that they have debuted. They brought them back
into our lives. It's because of this, this first episode.

Speaker 9 (30:01):
And Steve just fyi, the fourth episode is the highest
rated episode of all time for Stranger Things.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
It's also the no thanks to you, Steve, if you
haven't watched it yet, it's.

Speaker 9 (30:11):
A rotten Tomatoes. It's the highest scored one in history.
It's so great, and it broke the internet, like when
it like on on Thanksgiving Eve, they like Netflix was frozen.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Part of the surprise is not knowing like it's the
greatest because now you've set the bar mentally in Steve's head,
like you gotta watch the scene. It's the greatest surprise
scene ever. Just knowing that, not even knowing what it is.
By saying it's like the greatest of all time, it
would have been the greatest of all time if it
had surprised me as being the greatest episode.

Speaker 9 (30:39):
The great surprise for me is I didn't think anybody
was gonna care about this. Coming back on a Monday.
I knew I was gonna watch it, but I didn't
think anybody else in this fow just to balance it out.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I don't care at all.

Speaker 11 (30:48):
Does this seem weird to anybody else? That's something man,
that's weird.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Man, That's what I don't know. We gotta get going, No, no,
no stick around, hang out with us.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
You plan out our whole day.

Speaker 16 (30:59):
First, will make snow angels for two hours, and then
we'll go ice skating, and then we'll get a whole
roll of toll House cookie.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Dough as fast as we can, and then to finish,
we'll snuggle cool.

Speaker 11 (31:08):
Yeah, we'll stay and hanging around with you.

Speaker 9 (31:11):
First day of December, all systems go here in the
Tyboid studio.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
We are back. Can you tell.

Speaker 9 (31:19):
Buck Thompson through the snow, Beth Troutman, Jim zoki for
we go, Steve Sir Steven of Anthony.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
And of course featuring Bernie Bulls get another name. Happened yesterday?
Both Eugene.

Speaker 9 (31:41):
So the Carolina Panthers Jim Zokie, Yes when yesterday? Now
they have a late season by before you. Basically you're
basically gonna have to beat Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold
to achieve the Promised Land.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
That's what it's gonna come down to. The old Home week,
old old Home month.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
I know I asked this question every year and I
never remember the answer. I'll try to pay attend to this.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
What happened in the season five of them? Strange?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
No, no, no, When you say bye week, is it
b i b y e b u y s b.

Speaker 13 (32:13):
Y b y e e.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Okay, bet she's pronounced that way too. Whenever you when
I actually say what the Panthers have this week, you
can say bye week?

Speaker 2 (32:21):
What did they call it that?

Speaker 13 (32:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Just let's just just accept it for what it is.
Our fore fathers.

Speaker 9 (32:31):
Panthers win in a big, big way Bank of America Stadium.
They return home and don't just beat any team. They
beat the best team in the league on paper and
basically by anybody's estimation. The l A Rams and Dave
Canalis loved what he saw from the fans at Bank
of America Stadium, and.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
I gotta say, I mean just Bank of America Stadium.
The fans showed up in the weather. It was wet,
they were loud, and it was noticeable the third downs,
especially at the end. We can't take those things, for granted,
in the edge that it gives us on our rushes.
You know, even the last the last rush that we
got the sack fumble. You know, they're having to they're
up against the clock. There was a delay a game,

(33:10):
and that just gives us a little bit of an edge,
you know, to get off the ball, to attack it
and and come home with the wind.

Speaker 9 (33:17):
And so you take a rest and then then the
month of December is going to be a really interesting one.
You know, you still play Tampa Bay twice. You're on
the road next at New Orleans and oh, by the way,
Sam Darnold and as I mentioned, the Seattle Seahawks, which
I don't know, I don't know who who becomes what
the La Rams were now that the Panthers have sort

(33:39):
of put that fire out for the moment.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Funny, the Chicago Bears are currently the number one seed
in the NFC. Bet said it? Do you hear Beth
say it? Did you say that?

Speaker 12 (33:46):
Well?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Quiet like I did? She said, the Bears did before
I said it, before you spoiled another thing. Sports director
Beth Troutman, that's right, or you just have to give
the answers to everything up right, don't you do you
think the Bears, who's gonna win Monday Football? You think
the Bears are for real? Yes, because of the new coach.
I think Ben Johnson's got that thing going. They're running

(34:07):
the ball, which was not something they were doing even
earlier in this season. But I mean beating Philadelphia on Friday,
I mean that they're in They're in a good spot
right now. Bryce Young getting it done again yesterday.

Speaker 12 (34:19):
You know, we always lean on each other, you know,
we always have to leaeve, We always uh you know,
we know we have what it takes in this this building,
and you know, we don't worry about the outside opinions.
So for all of us, like you said, short week,
holiday is all that everyone was super locked in all week.
You know, this was there's a lot of focus. Everyone
was excited for the moment, excited to go out there
and play. And you know, we were excited just you know,

(34:40):
as coach says, because it was the next game. You know,
we were just excited for the opportunity. And I'm so
proud of this team how they pulled it off, the
way we won both you know, both sides of the ball,
all three phases.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
This is is a great win. So super proud.

Speaker 9 (34:54):
Now you're you're about to uh head down the hall
in a few minutes for the weekly trip to see
the Fellas on wfn Z. I can't imagine how fast
that's going to be today.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Every other week is great, that's true. It's a glass
case of emotion. Every week we're up or down. I
think a niche called it the Caroll wins of a
football season, and it is. It's bally and thus seven
and six is the record. But man, can I tell
you seven wins equals what we've had the last two
years combined? We had two wins that we had five wins.

(35:23):
So I mean that's the progress right now.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's glorious. Actually, I mean, way to go Panthers.

Speaker 9 (35:29):
There is another Carolina team that is sort of licking
its wounds this morning. You heard the game on WBT
over the weekend, the tar Heels. Bernie's very happy because
NC State whooped up on Bill Belichick's.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Tar Heels wanted Dave Door.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
Now did you hear Belichick's closing presser?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Do we have that?

Speaker 9 (35:47):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (35:48):
We do.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
What did the seasons teach?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
We just got the one with the game. Okay, so.

Speaker 18 (35:57):
Hold off folks. Yeah, so we're not going to do
a season recap. We're just just finished with the game here.
We'll do season recap when we get the one doing it, right,
I mean, sorry, I'll what.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Is the plan maybe for as far as having meetings
with all the guys that have eligibility remaining and.

Speaker 18 (36:10):
Maybe go through now we'll yeah, we'll go through. If
there are a lot of processes we'll go through at
the end of the season. That'll start, you know tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Some coaches have those conversations a little bit during the season.
Have you had any of those conversations? What conversation conversations about?

Speaker 18 (36:26):
I mean, look, because season's just ended like a few
minutes ago, okay, and so now we're gonna move into
the off season.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
That's what we're gonna do.

Speaker 19 (36:31):
And since we won't be talking to you, we're just
trying to get an idea of what the plan is
moving before.

Speaker 11 (36:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (36:36):
Well, well I'm trying to tell you we've been working
on Nancy State. We've been trying to work on NC
state before they work on d before that, work on
Wait for US week before that, work on Stanford week
before that, you know, work on Syracuse. I mean, that's
what we've been doing, working on a team every week.
Although I'm sorry, I'm lot the season recap for you.

Speaker 13 (36:52):
I don't have it.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
We haven't done it.

Speaker 15 (36:53):
Well, it's more moving forward and I let a recap.

Speaker 11 (36:57):
I'm working up yet.

Speaker 18 (36:58):
Once I'm moved forward, which is tomorrow starting.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I don't know why you got divorced.

Speaker 9 (37:04):
They were trying so hard.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Well, coach, we're not gonna.

Speaker 9 (37:06):
Have access to you as well.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's unter bs because in today's college football, you you
have coaches and players moving about in season. You can't
just wait till the season ends. If that's their plan,
they've already lost next year. That's true because you you
have a constant state of your roster is moving while
you're in season, and your coaching staff and and sometimes you,
so he may not know he's gone. But it's just

(37:30):
it's really interesting that he's just taking that take as
if they're not talking about current players they have and
who they're gonna be bringing. You're always recruiting. I mean,
there's recruits at every game, and there's commitments that are
being made and then guys leaving and all that. So it's, uh,
it's just funny that he's acting that way. He's acting
like the Belichick that we knew him to be as
opposed to when he first came to Chapel Hill. We said, Chatty,
he is. This is to be great. Him and Jones

(37:50):
are gonna best friends. And now it's like you're back
to being you know, coach.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Well, he had a wet sock of a season.

Speaker 9 (37:56):
I mean he's he came out of retirement to go
four and eight, right, forty two to nineteen the Wolfpack win.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Wow, way to go Bernie.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Hey, thanks Beth, I played really well. That's the best fan.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Can I just for one moment give some props to
our listener Scott. I asked a question at the very
beginning of this hour about why it's called a bye week,
and Scott is a genius. He said, all of the
other teams are leaving for their games and they're like bye.
I think that's brilliant. I'm going to use that as
a reason.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
The very technical answer to a important question.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I just needed to give him some props because I
thought that that was great and I'm never going to
forget now how to spell it.

Speaker 9 (38:37):
So this segment we now say bye bye. Right, this
is good morning beat on WBT, first day of December.
Back at it today. Hope everybody had a nice Thanksgiving
break holiday and now more holidays ahead.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
But heading into Thanksgiving, terrible story.

Speaker 9 (39:02):
Late Wednesday, two National Guard members shot in a targeted
ambush just blocks away from the White House, one of
which has passed away. President Trump on Air Force One
last night, taking a barrage of questions and one about
where that story stands and the condition of the victims.

Speaker 7 (39:22):
We got a lot of people in.

Speaker 15 (39:23):
Our country that shouldn't be here, and they came in
through midon and he was the worst president of the history.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
Of our country. But the single biggest thing he did.

Speaker 15 (39:32):
Was allowed me, the worst, allow millions.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
Of people into our country that shouldn't be here.

Speaker 15 (39:38):
Drug dealers and prisons were opened up and allowed to
come into our country. You take a look at the
people that were allowed to come into our country who
we're paying a big price for it, and we will
for years to come, including the recent killer of two
wonderful National Guards people.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
And I'll tell you what.

Speaker 15 (39:57):
That animal should not have been allowed to come into
a country. Thank you very much, every much, Thank you.
I have sookey to both families. Well, I mean, I
can give you an updated devastated. Does that make sense
to you?

Speaker 7 (40:13):
Devastated?

Speaker 9 (40:15):
President Trump talking about the families of those National Guard members. Now,
he talked about a number of other things during this
press gaggle aboard Air Force One. He said he believed
Pete Hegseth was telling the truth when he denied telling
Seal Team six to strike at an alleged drug boat
for a second time in order to kill any survivors.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
This story was also a big one over the weekend, and.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
There are senators who are now saying that they are
going to investigate this. And we have Senator Tom Tillis
joining us in studio today and this will certainly be
one of the questions we ask him.

Speaker 9 (40:50):
Here is President Trump being asked about the Hegseth situation.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
If you talked a.

Speaker 16 (40:55):
Little bit about the strikes and the controversy around the
Secretary of Defense, Keith Haig.

Speaker 20 (40:59):
Said, I don't know anything about it, he said, He said, he.

Speaker 16 (41:02):
Did not say that, and I believe that you don't
know if there was a second two men, the second
strike to kill the two men out.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
The night, he said, would you be okay with that?

Speaker 20 (41:12):
If he did, he said he didn't do it, So
I have to make that decision.

Speaker 9 (41:16):
Senator Mark Kelly was on State of the Union yesterday
with Dana Bash on CNN.

Speaker 17 (41:21):
We said something very simple and non controversial, and the
President of the United States said, hang them, execute them,
prosecute them. In my case, Uh, Secretary Hegsas said, prosecute
him under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. For by
the way, reciting the Uniform Code of Military Justice, it's

(41:43):
obviously ridiculous. But this is an attempt to silence me,
to get me to not hold this administration accountable. We
have a president who doesn't understand the constitution, who installed
an unqualified Secretary of Defense. I cannot think of a
Secretary of Defense in the history of our country that
is less qualified than Pete Hegseth.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
He should not be in this position.

Speaker 17 (42:07):
He should have been fired after Signal Gate, and now
he should be fired again for this this if this
is accurate.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
So he's not going to get me to back down.

Speaker 17 (42:16):
But what he is doing is sending a very chilling
message across our entire nation, not only in the military,
but the civilian workforce. Who's going to speak up and
say anything if they see something that's unlawful.

Speaker 9 (42:28):
When he says if this is accurate, he's talking about
the Sealed Team six story, and of course also making
reference there to the story that was such a big
one last week with the Congress from the lawmakers that
got together and made that video regarding you know, orders,
and and he was one of six Democratic lawmakers who
who were reminding troops they don't have to follow quote

(42:51):
illegal orders unquote if they deem them to be illegal.
And of course we know President Trump's response to that,
and Pete Hegsath in particular bringing up the idea of
a court martial for Mark Kelly, having him reinstated and
seeing where that goes. And it's something that we'll certainly
talk to Senator tell Us about because Senator tell Us,
if you remember, was down to the wire as far

(43:14):
as whether or not he was going to confirm Pete
Heggsath back in those days when that confirmation hearing was
going on.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
And it makes you wonder, you know, after Signal Gate,
after you know this particular controversy, it makes you wonder,
just as a human being, does he question his own
decision and what happens moving forward, and if you've been,
you know, keeping up with this story. The video from
the Democratic Representatives Senators and Representatives was created as the

(43:41):
result of a PBS story that came out that said
people within the military have been seeking outside legal counsel
to just, you know, to determine whether or not some
orders were in fact or are in fact legal, trying
to figure out what they can and should do and
what their legal rights are.

Speaker 9 (43:59):
Another big story over the weekend involves Minnesota Governor Tim
Walls and something that President Trump called him based on
some comments that Walls had made. You'll hear the I'm
not going to say the word. You will hear the press.
The reporter a board Air Force one last night asked
about that word.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Do you stand by voluntary?

Speaker 20 (44:20):
I think there's something wrong with Absolutely, you have a
problem with you know what. I think there's something wrong
with it.

Speaker 15 (44:28):
Anybody that would do what he did, anybody that would
all have those people that you would have stayed and
pay millions of valais out to Samaya.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
We give millions of valus.

Speaker 15 (44:38):
To Sam's not even a country because it doesn't function
like a country.

Speaker 20 (44:42):
It's got a name, but it doesn't function like a country.

Speaker 7 (44:45):
Yeah, there's something wrong with walls.

Speaker 9 (44:47):
And one final thing, Cash Bettel saying late yesterday in
an interview that he believes, as it relates to the
James Coomy case, that something else is going to happen
right after thanks, meaning he believes that that's not over yet.
So that's from the head of the FBI. We'll see
what that means perhaps in the next couple of days.

(45:07):
But a roundup of political headlines for you on a
Monday morning, And as Beth said, we'll have US Senator
Tom Tillis stopping in the studio in our final hour
today to talk about this and things going forward.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
In DC.

Speaker 9 (45:23):
Seven thirty seven on WBT. US Senator Tom Tillis schedule
to be in studio with us before we get out
of here today part of the nine o'clock hour. Today
is the beginning of the end of twenty twenty five,
but it is the beginning of a new era on
several levels. You heard Mark talking about the new CMPD
chief beginning today. You also have a new law, Arena's Law,

(45:47):
as in Arena Zarutzka, who of course was stabbed on
the light rail back in August. But this law that
we heard so much about goes into effect today, which
institutes significant changes to the state's criminal justice system.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Mark does Irena.

Speaker 21 (46:01):
Of course, as you mentioned, killed by a homeless guy
who had a long arrest record. A lot of people
say he should have been either locked up or in
mental treatment. He obviously had some issues. Put simply, Arena's
law is an effort to keep dangerous people off the
streets by locking them up for longer periods of time
and short more people are going to get locked up

(46:22):
for certain violent crimes. Judges will have to impose a
higher bond or put them under house arrest or GPS monitoring.
And one interesting part of the law, if a judge
or a magistrate releases someone who's been charged with a
violent crime, they have to put in writing why they
made that decision, which is something we've never had before.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
So more scrutiny on the magistrates and judges that.

Speaker 21 (46:45):
Is exactly right and their decision making process. Now some
in the county are worried that if this fills up
the jail, they're already short staffed. Sheriff Gary McFadden says
they need more money to hire more guards.

Speaker 22 (46:58):
Talking about funding for additional medical and we haven't even
talked about the mental capacity of functioning to give them
the resources that they need and then transporting them to
these additional hearings beyond what we transport.

Speaker 21 (47:14):
Now, now what McFadden's talking about there, there's another part
of a law that requires someone with a history of
mental issues, if they're arrested, they've got to be given
a mental evaluation. So the sheriff is saying, look, I'm
going to have to be taking people to mental evaluations.
They're locked up longer. I'm already short staffed at the jail,
and he is. He's saying he needs more money to

(47:36):
hire more help.

Speaker 9 (47:37):
And you also mentioned the fact that tonight is the
swearing in of new city council members, and this is
the new look city council. Now that we talked a
lot about the race between Kimberly Owens and Christa mccari
back last month, and now tonight Kimberly Owens sworn in
District six as a Democrat, and so Eddriggs is now

(47:59):
officially as of tonight, the lone wolf.

Speaker 21 (48:01):
That's exactly right, one lonely Republican. The rest are all Democrats.
We have a new face on the East side representing
the Eastland area, but he also is a Democrat, So
the Democrats will be large and in charge as they
have been, but it will be interesting to see what
kind of policies they come up with. There are a
couple of activists now who are on the council and

(48:22):
so it'll be fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
It's be an interesting night tonight for sure.

Speaker 13 (48:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (48:27):
Do you now what do you anticipate from the standpoint
of the new police chief going forward here.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
In the early days.

Speaker 21 (48:34):
You know, that's a really good question. We have put
in a request to interviewer, request denied. We're not sure
how many will get to sit down and do an
interview with her, but I suspect she'll make some public appearances.
She has said that she's going to be tough on crime.
Another of her goals is she said she is determined

(48:55):
to fill all of the vacancies, at least three hundred
right now at CMPD by some accounts, maybe more. In
Raleigh she did fill every vacancy. She had a massive
recruiting effort, and she said she would do that here
as well. So kind of her top two goals, she said,
getting tough on crime and filling those vacancies.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Yeah, as you pointed out, she was successful in Raleigh.
I think she ended up filling one hundred and fifty
positions something along those lines in the time that she
was there.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
She gets high marks.

Speaker 21 (49:23):
You know, the Fraternal Order of Police, who did not
love Johnny Jennings at all, they like her a lot.
So there will be a honeymoon period, I think with
the rank and file, certainly for a while. Well, you know,
the Johnny Jennings era was an interesting one from a
media standpoint. I mean, you know as well as anybody.
You and Brett talked a lot about this, and we

(49:44):
saw this from where we sit. They overhauled the way
the CMPD interacts with the media, and that was a
big change from the Kerr Putney era. Ker Putney used
to come on the show all the time, and I'm
not saying that the police chief never went on any programs,
but the way, you know, the sort of protocol that
you had to go through, and also the system that

(50:05):
they set up for any interaction about anything around town
that they would have a news conference about. It was
much more structured and sort of layered with Johnny Jennings
than it had been before. I wonder if that continues
under the new chief, or will she chart her own
course here and perhaps make some changes to that. Well,
that's certainly one question I have. I mean, after Jennings

(50:25):
took office, I was called into a meeting at the
police headquarters and I was flat out told, look, if
you're doing a negative story about us, we're not cooperating.
If you've got questions about criminal investigations, we're not answering them.
You'll have to wait for press releases. And so it's
been very difficult dealing with the police department under Jennings.

(50:48):
And so my sense is she may loosen up on
that somewhat because in Raleigh she had a couple of
public information people who were always accessible to the media,
at least from what I could tell. So I'm certainly
hopeful that that might loosen up a bit. All Right,
So a big day here December first, again, Arena's Law

(51:08):
goes into effect. We have a new CMPD chief officially,
and tonight, of course, council, new city council gets introduced
at the Government Center.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
We'll cover it all for you. Thank you, Mark, Sir
mister Thompson, you're a straight shooter.

Speaker 11 (51:22):
This is good morning Beat with Bow and Beth.

Speaker 9 (51:28):
Thank you, Howard bo Thompson, mister bo Thompson, Beth Troutman.
December first, you know, December first. I said to Mark,
it's the beginning of the end of the year, and
it really begins the onslaught of the Hey, let's talk

(51:49):
about the best and the worst of the year. And
what was the word of the year, what was the
thing of the year? Who's the person of the year.
I always like this stuff. I'm a list kind of guy,
so I always think of December's fun because of that.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Well, I'm a word lady, so you know, I love
when the words of the year come out. Although was it?
Who was it?

Speaker 10 (52:05):
That was it?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Marriam Webster, that's.

Speaker 9 (52:07):
Beth Troutman, that water, that word lady, that word lady again?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
You say those words, don't you. I'm the radio.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Well, Oxford folks, Oxford Dictionary has now, I should say,
the Oxford University Press. They create the Oxford Dictionary. They
have named their word of the year. And there's they
call a word or phrase of the year, because this
is technically two words. But for twenty twenty five, Oxford
says it's rage bait, rage, bait. The term describes manipulative

(52:41):
tactics used to drive engagement online, with usage of it
increasing threefold threefold guys in the last twelve months, according
to the dictionary publisher. Rage bait beat two other shortlisted
terms here are the other ones aura farming or a
like or a farming or a farming, and biohack.

Speaker 9 (53:07):
To win the title, Oh, biohack because cousin to biopic.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
You would say bioha.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Oh my gosh, I've been.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I don't. I don't even I've never even heard the
term aura forming form. I can't even say aura forming farming?
Are aura or a farming a farming? So what does
that mean? You farm people's auras?

Speaker 1 (53:33):
It just sounds like the most u new age. Yeah, damn.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
But rage bait. The fact that they're saying that it
has increased threefold just in the last twelve months, that
tells you something about our culture and also why people
are distancing themselves from social media. I'm gonna tell you,
guys a story. I canceled, completely canceled my Facebook page,
like gone because they you I've talked about this that

(54:00):
Facebook just disappeared my professional Facebook page. They just went away.
I don't know where it went. It just disappeared. But
I still had a personal page and I just never
went to it, and when I did, I always felt bad.
I never felt good. So I completely canceled it. I'm
done with it, I'm done gone.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
So all those things I sent you this weekend and.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Get it so that means that messenger's gone, Like it's
all gone. I screenshoted a couple of pictures that people
had posted to my page that I didn't I screenshotted
those done.

Speaker 9 (54:29):
So where so where are you in the social media
world now?

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Instagram and X and X. Yeah, I thought about I
went to the point of canceling X over the weekend
because it's a cesspool of awful and it's a lot
of rage bait is what it is. So many people
are so desperate for clicks because clicks equal money.

Speaker 9 (54:49):
Now that.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
The rage that exists online and what they bring into
your life. I stayed away from social media during this
holiday weekend, and again I was under the weather for
part of it.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
You're watching Stranger Things.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I was watching Stranger Things, and I did watch. As
I watched Stranger Things, I remembered that feeling of only
having a landline and what it's like to just have conversations,
like I was with my nephews and my niece and
we played pickleball, and like my little brother got a
new puppy and we were just playing with the puppy
and it was glorious. And I avoided the social media

(55:25):
rage for days on end. And when I got back
over the weekend and started thinking about the show and
prepping for the show, and we utilized social media for
the show itself, Matt felt it creep back in. And
so I understand rage bait being the word of the
year because every other post is.

Speaker 9 (55:43):
Anger Now, somebody out there right now is thinking, wait
a minute, rage bait. Now. This this piece by the
BBC and talking about Oxford says it's similar rage bait
is to its internet cousin, clickbait. Clickbait right, where a
headline is used to lure a reader to view an
article or video. But this rage bait is actually sort

(56:05):
of igniting the trying to ratchet up your emotions like clickbait.
Clickbait is sometimes there to do that, but clickbait in
of itself is just something that's going to make you
click on that to learn more. About whatever it is.
This is actually when you attach some negative energy.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
To it, anger mostly and decisions. We heard Bishop Michael
Martin said this to us, Any decision made out of
anger is not going to be an effective decision. That
you aren't in your best state when you are in
a state of anger. And if we spend all of
this time online, and if rage bait is three times used,

(56:44):
three times more than it was just a year ago,
think about what that's doing to the collective. And you
wonder why people are angry on flights and rude in
grocery stores and rude on the phone. If we approach
life with all of that stress in the anger and
the negativity in us, then we're not going to approach

(57:04):
each other with kindness. So we need to take a
step back. And I wish that the people who create
the rage bait had more of a moral center and
more of an ethical center and cared more about their
fellow human beings than they care about themselves. That's where
we're falling short. But the biggest reason you're ditching Facebook
is you just don't use it enough well. And I

(57:25):
just felt I didn't feel good when I was on it.
If I were it always was filled with stuff that
I didn't felt like. I didn't feel like I needed
to know about people I didn't really want to know.
And all I saw was a ton of arguing, just
a ton of arguing, and I just didn't want to
I didn't want to be part of that anymore.

Speaker 9 (57:47):
But to see, I think if I had to take
if you said, of X or Facebook, which of the one,
which one is more full of rage bait? I would
say X wins that it every every time, and then
some yeah, because but I feel like the problem is
for what we do, very rarely do you have breaking
news on Facebook. You have breaking news, but you have

(58:07):
to sift through it. That's the problem. That's what makes
it more problematic than it was using Twitter for news
gathering five years ago. Now you have to sift through
all the muck. But you do find legitimate breaking news
stories because a lot of people in this day and
age will go directly to the source to post something,
and so x is still useful in that sense. But

(58:29):
it's like you have to be able to sort of
look past all of the stuff because there's lots of
stuff on there that's it's fake news, and I mean
fake news by the sense that it's news that someone's
trying to masquerade as a real outlet.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
And it's not right.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
And now with AI, I mean, there have been so
many AI generated videos that have been shared over and
over again, especially on places like x. Instagram was my
place that I felt like social media that was joyful
because my feed was filled with sloths and parents and
like a pet squirrel starts with sluts, dogs and puppies.

(59:02):
But now I feel like Instagram every other post now
is an ad and that drives me insane. So there's
a part of me that wants it all all gone.
It wants it all But in the nature of the
business we're in, we're kind of told we need to
be more present on social media, But in my brain,
as a human being, I don't want to be on

(59:23):
it anymore.

Speaker 9 (59:24):
I was scrolling through Facebook the other day and this
can you could attach this to any of the ones
we're talking about. But I was on Facebook the other
day and I stopped for a second and I said,
all right, I'm going to see how long it takes
me to scroll before I find somebody that I actually know.
And it was really kind of sad how long it
took me because you sit there and realize, Okay, you
started this because you wanted to connect with all these

(59:45):
people that you know and that you have to add
as friends. But I'm looking through this and it's either
an ad or it's somebody that I don't know that
got into my feed. I don't know how, but they're there, right, It's.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Because you're so popular. But no, it's not I'm gonna
friend Bo Thompson. No, I don't even know these people.

Speaker 10 (01:00:01):
I deleted my Facebook about seven or eight years ago,
and it has been incredible, and I will say the
main reason for me was the Facebook memories.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I was an embarrassment when I posted my first yeah
in the shower guys. BRB like, who cares? Bernie? Why
are you posting that on Facebook?

Speaker 15 (01:00:18):
What? Like?

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Every day I would these days I want to go
back to man.

Speaker 10 (01:00:22):
Every day I would go on Facebook and see a
terrible memory of me posting some stupid thing, and I'm like, Wow, no,
wonder you were You know I would related you to Bernie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
I feel like this segment has been rage bait for Bernie. Yeah,
his Facebook memories just ruined it for me.

Speaker 9 (01:00:35):
Hey, real quick, if you want to calm Bernie down,
We'll calm down. We Actually I think that I should
tell you what the actual aura farming definition is. You
didn't already read this, did you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
By the way, so I'm guessing it's farming.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Okay, good Aura.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I can't say the word aura.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
I have to check now to make sure Beth hasn't
already told you. Almost in the same segment, the.

Speaker 9 (01:00:58):
Cultivation of an impressive, attractive, or charismatic persona or public
image by behaving or presenting oneself in a way intended
subtly to convey an air of confidence, coolness, or mystique.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
See this is why I got off Facebook. I was
so sick of people that I kind of knew in
real life posting stuff that I knew wasn't real.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
So really, so, you know, a bunch of phonies in you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
No, you know that whole feeling of you realize that people,
it's always the people who post the most about like
their relationships, who are probably having trouble.

Speaker 9 (01:01:32):
So really, Arara farming and rage baiting, same thing?

Speaker 23 (01:01:36):
Yeah, one Wanda poker rubber Rubber.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
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Speaker 9 (01:01:47):
Want to make sure that we get two coats of
waxes time, not just one.

Speaker 11 (01:01:50):
This is good Morning Beaty with Klote Thompson and Beth Trout, nails.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Upping bits and school boys up.

Speaker 11 (01:01:58):
Being watched definitely. Oh.

Speaker 9 (01:02:01):
Bryce Young, We've seen.

Speaker 23 (01:02:02):
Him deliver a couple of weeks ago past for over
four point fifty to tyrolla McMillan on fourth and two
from the forty three pass two.

Speaker 19 (01:02:11):
It's Hutchdowns on.

Speaker 23 (01:02:13):
Fourth down by Price thirty one twenty eight day leave
under five to go Stafford under pressure.

Speaker 9 (01:02:20):
Oh, it's a fumble.

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
DJ I want on the ball.

Speaker 19 (01:02:25):
Oh the big Fellows Street turnovers, Ram Stafford, no doubt,
sat forced by Derek Brown though. Now under three minutes
to go Young to Cocher on third and five, and
that's gonna be it.

Speaker 23 (01:02:38):
The Carolina Panthers have stopped the Rams Express. You know
you're not gonna win all of them, but Carolina at home,
especially this year, and they're above water again at seven
and six, thirty one to twenty eight, a win by
growing before our eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Bryce Young.

Speaker 9 (01:02:58):
Eight eight on w I will say this. You know
people say what they say about streaming services. One of
the reasons that I love ESPN Plus, which is now
just the ESPN app is that you can go if
you want to. It's not on regular ESPN TV, but
you can go and stream Chris Berman and now Bigger McFarlane.

(01:03:19):
That's it used to be Tom Jackson, but you can.
You can watch NFL Primetime and there he is calling
the Panthers highlights.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
I don't know that's even available. That took me back to, like,
I don't know, fifteen years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
No, cook, I love Chris Berman's voice. He sounds like
he's eating a sandwich the whole time and he's talking.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
It's a fantastic but he literally sounds like he's eating
sounds like it's a little unclear. I'm still doing that
when i'm his age. Can you just promise me now
you'll tap me on the shoulder and go, Jim, that's enough.
You'll be doing it on our streaming channel. Yeah, WBT
live stream moment.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
No, we need you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
The radios.

Speaker 9 (01:04:00):
But hey, it's nice DJ one on the ball, get
it like on the ball. It's nice to hear the
throwback when the Panthers are doing so well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
It does make it. I mean, it's such fun. Everybody's
jumping on the bandwagon.

Speaker 9 (01:04:13):
Now you beat the Rams, that's what happens, and they
get to enjoy this for two weeks, not one week,
because they have a bye one of the late season byes,
and then you get to go what you feel like
would be a soft landing. But they beat us last
time at home. So we'll see what happens with the
New Orleans Saints. But as we keep saying, the Panthers
are now seven and six, most games they've won this

(01:04:35):
late in years, and the schedule really really sets up
like this. You got to beat Baker Mayfield and you
got to beat Sam Darnold in order to make it
to the playoffs. I mean, who could write this stuff?

Speaker 14 (01:04:48):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
It's a thirty for thirty waiting to happen, and the
Panthers are relevant with four games to go. To borrow
a term from Ron Rivera, and I think the bye
week comes at a good time. I don't like when
it's this late in year because you look at that
set during the middle of the season to kind of
readjust and get refocused. But with the injuries and the
concussion protocols they have right now that will help them.
I think obviously you'll get Trey bon Merrick back for sure,

(01:05:09):
but hopefully jac Horn and some other guys coming back
after the bye week. So Dave Canalis talking about what
he told his team heading into yesterday's big game.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
Yeah, really the challenge was for the guys, you know,
and Saturday night just saying, you know, we have seen
the rams best football, and they've been playing amazing. And
I said, no one's seen our best yet. And while
while they still made yards and they still did things,
our best football still out there in front of us,
and that's our goal is to find it. But our
guys came together offensively, you know, and really executed today.

Speaker 9 (01:05:39):
Well you can at least say this, you know, now
we're talking about you have to beat the guys that
used to be on your team, and you got to
beat New Orleans. You know, we talked for so long about, oh,
well they're doing fine, but wait till they play Green
Bay at Lambeau and wait till they play the La Rams.
And they took care of both of business both times.
So I mean, who's to say how high this team
can go?

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
We gave, we gave, they took it. New Orleans has
one of their two wins against US, and the Rams
have one of their three losses against US. That is
the story of the twenty twenty five of Carolina halfs
and so yeah, it's unpredictable and the league is difficult
because every team's got a lot of talent on it.
That was a huge win yesterday, and nobody again in
ten and a half point underdogs. I don't think many

(01:06:18):
thought that could happen. So a credit to the players first, obviously,
because they have to make the players out there. But
Dave Canal's way he handled the Rico Dowdle situation goes
to Rico last week says that's on me. We need
to run the ball. And then Rico coming out and
saying coach and I are good because he put out
that a little frustrated emoji or whatever the emoji's called
that he put out there last week Rico did about

(01:06:39):
not getting the football, and then Garo Vero. I mean,
they were down half the defense yesterday. A lot of
the best players were not out there. But they did
have Derek Brown and they did have Mike Jackson yesterday,
but they were down so many frontline players and they
just again was a high scoring game. Yeah, but they
kept the team in it to be able to play
good enough on defense and get those takeaways white death.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
I was I was trying to go through my brain
to what was the what's the frustrated emoji? What does
it look like?

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
I don't know. It's kind of like a crooked mouth
or whatever. I don't know if it's is it called
frustrated emoji or what we you call that emoji?

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
The one with the half smile, like the half rown half.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
It's like a Charlie Brown zigzag and the eyes are
kind of bloodshotish or whatever. I don't even know. I
don't know how do you describe emoji? That's that's why
we have emojis and so we don't have to use words.
That's true.

Speaker 9 (01:07:27):
No, that's not. I know which one you're talking about
as soon as you said the the lines going through
the eyes, but I don't I don't know. If you
said to me, what is this, I would have said,
that's the frustrated emoji? Trying to guess what his emotion was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Yeah, well, that that's like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
It's the so the emoji, not the eyes like that though,
it's not it's not those eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Eyes. Who's just been rage baited? This is a great
segment on the air forces. Look at our phones and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
I was just trying to figure out what.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
No, that's close. The mouth is close, but the eyes
are wrong.

Speaker 9 (01:07:57):
The emoji text us which emoji you think we're talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Let me look up Rico Dowdell.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
I do kind of because I don't know the meanings
of emojis. I have probably been texting people inappropriate emojis
for years because I had no clue that they meant
things other than the things that.

Speaker 9 (01:08:14):
I just realized what the heart means.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Well, the different the different colors of hearts mean different things,
and like all the different vegetables and stuffs and fruits.
So I will describe to make that. Oh, it's the
dizzy eyes. It's the it's the so that's the emoji
with the swirly eyes that make you look like your swirl.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
But then the mouth is like a zigz. Hang on,
let me see it. This is what I think it is?

Speaker 7 (01:08:39):
Is it?

Speaker 18 (01:08:39):
So?

Speaker 9 (01:08:39):
This is what Rico Dudels sent last week, right five
days ago?

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Okay, hang on, it's very tiny, so it's hard to
don't know, but it's the swirly bird eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
So to me, Blacker it's hard to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
To me, if I were doing that emoji, I would
think that that meant that I just spun around and
got dizzy. It wouldn't to me. That wouldn't mean frustrating.
That would mean I don't know where I am currently?

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Same here.

Speaker 9 (01:09:00):
Yeah, so when you said the swirly eyes, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
What he told me was, yeah, it's the swirly eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
I love when players or somebody will do that and
everyone's like, what does it mean? What does it mean?
What is Rico saying?

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
See, that's exactly what my thought was. I didn't hear
anything else that you said because I thought, what was
the frustrated emoji?

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
I made that up. By the way, let's not go
with frustrated, but he was frustrated. I only care the
balls you're saying he was crazy eyed emoji, like I
don't know as seems he was dizzy and didn't know
where he was. Is what I would think that what
does that mean?

Speaker 9 (01:09:28):
More concerning we're going to call it the Jim zok
Is frustrated emojis emoji.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
We brought it full circle.

Speaker 9 (01:09:43):
That was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Traffic check right now, boomer whoop, von cannon, traffic rumbling
bubbling stumbling.

Speaker 9 (01:09:51):
Well, you know he you actually had the nickname first.
They started calling him Boomer all those years ago. I
was like, Boomer Cannon already took that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Let's get him in here doing traffic up. And oh,
by the way, does trap it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Some people truly find joy in the giving. A thoughtful,
intentional gift given brings more joy than receiving something.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Agree with that, Like, we learned a lesson at the
end of all this, like, and that was our holiday
gift to you? Is that you learned that lesson.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
I'm going home.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
I'm very excited about gift to Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
I'm going to regift it to you and play it
back to you later.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
On the podcast.

Speaker 11 (01:10:34):
You got to the podcast, bo This is good morning
beat with Bow and back.

Speaker 9 (01:10:44):
Happy holidays. Don't look now it's December first, we're here, rabbit, rabbit.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Yes, we missed the penultimate day vote.

Speaker 13 (01:10:54):
And I weren't here.

Speaker 9 (01:10:54):
I was not here for the penultimate day, but was here?

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Where were you? I should have come into work?

Speaker 20 (01:10:59):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Can I just jump on here and penultimate penultimate?

Speaker 13 (01:11:03):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Bye about me? Bye week.

Speaker 9 (01:11:06):
So apparently talking about rage baiting has caused people to
rage bait on our text line. No, it was on
my twitterycas Oh you're oh so it was specific to you.

Speaker 11 (01:11:15):
It was very.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Specific to me, uh, Sarah. Sarah not happy about our
our conversation about X, and she directed it just to me.
You guys aren't tagged, just me, Sarah says, X formerly
Twitter has always been a place of despicable verbiage, regardless
of ownership, but liberals come down on it now because
Elon Musk owns it. Sarah also said rage bait perpetrators

(01:11:39):
without a strong ethical foundation, You mean like Jasmine Crockett.
She also texted news gathering five years ago on Twitter
was more legitimate? Are you kidding me? It was full
of fraud and fake news perpetrated by legacy liberal media
that is fake by what at least?

Speaker 9 (01:11:55):
Okay, okay, okay, I gotta stop you. I gotta stop you. So,
first of all, I'm the one was talking about five
years ago versus now, and I did not use I
did not say legitimate. What I said was it's harder
now because you have to sift through so much now
more people have ex Elon Musk bought Twitter win two
years ago. One year, It's not five years ago, maybe three,
five years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
One, it's like two or three if you roll back.

Speaker 9 (01:12:17):
But now versus five years ago, I was not trying
to make a political statement. I was trying to make
a just a general statement about the fact that it
is two years two years Oh okay, so that that
reinforces my point. Five years ago, it was easier to
find things on Twitter because you didn't have to sift
through so much. Now, when I say sift through something,
that doesn't mean that doesn't mean liberal or conservative. It

(01:12:39):
just means stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
There's just because more people have it and more people
use it.

Speaker 9 (01:12:43):
Yeah, and I was not even thinking about whether Elon
Musk owned it or not. My experience on Twitter, the
part of it where I feel like is there's just
so much extraneous stuff where I'm searching for the actual content.
That's That's not a political statement, that's just that's just
it's crowded for a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Third party being offunded by the rage baiting going on
through the phone because it was directed at you, but
Bose the you're on Twitter.

Speaker 9 (01:13:07):
But I'm the one who said to thinking about five
years versus.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Now, yeah, yeah, Well she also Sarah also said what
you failed to mention this is so she sent me
one to I.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Got a frustrated dizzy and mogemos.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Actually, these tweets are making me dizzy. What you failed
to mention about the former Twitter is how many conservatives
were shadow band so no ideas good, bad, nor indifferent
could be seen by the masses, so they could make
their own determinations. I wasn't making a statement about who
owned Twitter or about who whose ideas were banned. I
was just saying that online rage baiting is the word

(01:13:42):
for twenty twenty five according to the Oxford Dictionary, and
that rage baiting has happened now according to experts, three
times more often in the last year than it ever
has been utilized before. And I was saying that Twitter
is a cesspool. I got rid of Facebook over the weekend.
I canceled it all completely because I just don't want
the negativity. I don't want the I don't want like

(01:14:06):
I mean, it's so strange, you know, because of social media,
somebody like Sarah can basically yell at me via social media.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
It's amazing. You said you don't want to be rage baited,
you immediately rage baited right right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Right, right right, and I didn't mean to in saying
that rage bait was the word, and that I thought
Twitter and that social media can be assessment, and that
we are all better off when we step away from
our phones and step into the light of each other,
when we step into conversation and we step into relationships,
and we step into nature. We are all so much
better as people, as kind of what we were designed

(01:14:38):
to be. And we go into the world kinder, more generous.
And when you're kinder and more generous, your life lifts up.
And as you lift up, you can help lift an
entire community. And if we all lift we'll stop being
so angry.

Speaker 9 (01:14:51):
Yes, and then death disappeared, Beth disappeared into the forest.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
I stepped into the nature. It turned out was just
by dog left something in the backyard. Yeah, did that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
I did that over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Careful step into nature.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Yeah, we're burying in step.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
We're bearing the lead here.

Speaker 15 (01:15:05):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:15:05):
Beth shut down Facebook because she doesn't need any more friends.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Wow, not those kind of I missed that one. Compassfore,
I've met my limits. Thank you all who participated for
shutting around the line on someone else. I have seventeen friends.
I'm done.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
No, you guys, there was a study done this year
and this has nothing to do with why I canceled Facebook.
But you can only apparently have like one hundred and
fifty friends over the course of a lifetime, and you've
kind of met your limit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
I got to go to somewhere. We only like sixty
friends in first grade early in life. Let me rephrase this.

Speaker 9 (01:15:48):
Beth has left Facebook because she needs to go somewhere
where they have more room.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I did a bigger platform. This is maybe nature perfect
for me. I'll be out in nature if you need me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
That would be so true. You want to find me,
I'm out in the woods. I'm talking to the squirrel.

Speaker 9 (01:16:06):
I'm off the Grid's right, only animal friends. All right,
let's head to the news center on this Monday morning.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
I'm your friend, Ben.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Yes, and you never yell at me on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
As I always say, with friends like that Beth, who
needs enemies? And I'm just kidding.

Speaker 7 (01:16:23):
Evening, doctor Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
What's with the wire?

Speaker 11 (01:16:26):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (01:16:26):
Just while they expat it nothing like that gear of
the big snowstorms.

Speaker 7 (01:16:33):
What you got under here?

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Oh there, that's an r V. We'll talk that some
new specialized weather since.

Speaker 7 (01:16:39):
Here it's a good look at the len got a
permit for that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
It's so nice parking the driveway to the right there.
I did not stop right there that.

Speaker 9 (01:16:52):
Yeah, first day of December, full speed ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
You heard just a minute ago. Friday night is hand
cocks bikes for kids.

Speaker 9 (01:17:01):
We will be back here at the horseshoe out in
front of one Julian Price Place, collecting bikes five pm
and we'll be on the air and doing our thing.
Love to see so many of you who've made this
part of your holiday season. We hear from people who
like have created sub gatherings where they collect bikes at
an alternate location, then they hop in the car or

(01:17:25):
the van or whatever and sometimes an eighteen wheeler and
stop over here to make the official delivery. But Friday night,
it's coming up quick because Thanksgiving was late this year
and we're already in December. I mean, we're here, folks,
Christmas is coming, and Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Night's going to be so much fun. We hope you
all come out. Bring a bike for a young person.
I bought a new coat because I figured it's going
to be super cold, and I put it on. My
husband said, I look like a tittsie.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Roll brown.

Speaker 15 (01:17:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Yeah, those kids are eating bikes and bets out here,
buying coats for kids, for me children.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
You're a bike too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
It's a coach for Beth donation. You're looking for Steve
Udleson and young lady.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
I'm gonna have to return it because remember again, we're
collecting coach for Beth.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Friday night.

Speaker 9 (01:18:15):
So I'm looking at the forecast forty three on Friday.
So Hancock is right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Coach Forbeth dot com. It never fails. She's in need,
just a very special We get done.

Speaker 9 (01:18:27):
We get it towards the end of the broadcast and
my lips start freezing. Yes, and that's for Beth of me.
I almost have hung the Thalven bike.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Don't stick your tongue on a pole.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Ralphie did it again.

Speaker 9 (01:18:38):
So this coming Friday night, we hope to see all
of you out here. It's also right now is still
a big travel part of the season. A lot of
you may have traveled over the weekend over the river
and through the woods to grandmother's house.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
You went, yes, and man, people had a tough time
because in the middle of the Thanksgiving holiday they decided
to do an update on all airbus airplanes, which caused
some cancelations of flights, and you had winter weather and
places like Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
I mean, okay, so I heard part of that story
and on the planet my earbudget, we had one of
those Friday when I was leaving. Oh that's what the
update was. Yes, yeah, we sat there for an hour
and fifteen minutes before I went to Fort Lauderdale.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
For my Yeah, it was like a computer update, which
I love the show.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
I learned so much about my life.

Speaker 20 (01:19:20):
Now here's the question.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Did you look around the flight to see what other
people were doing or not doing?

Speaker 13 (01:19:27):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Apparently this is a thing. It is a thing on TikTok.
It is a thing on social media. People are filming
themselves and each other. Can I say the term.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Events Cochley on us.

Speaker 9 (01:19:38):
I saw it on social media.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
We've been posting about this. It's a term that it's called.
It's called raw dogging a flight, which basically means that
you decide.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
To you're just saying it. That's not what it's called
at all. For I just kid, you made better like
for it's called it's called sitting the stair. What are
you calling it? That's not what that's called.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
So what This is what this is is taking a
long flight, say a cross country flight, say a multiple
hour flight, and taking nothing on the plane to distract
or entertain you. No earbuds, no earphones, no laptop, no book,
no nook or no kindle. Nothing. Literally just what it's called.

(01:20:32):
It really is called raw dogg It's called raw dogging
at cha again. Yeah, there was an entire episode of
Seinfeld about this because Elaine and her boyfriend Patrick Warburt
and what was his name on the show, the Hodey
Puddy Puddy, They went on a flight and and he

(01:20:54):
didn't have a book or a magazine or credit the
woods steep what was the name of the boyfriend, Puddy?

Speaker 9 (01:20:59):
We're still how have we made it this far with
Stephen here and not started calling him Jeeves Jeeves, Yes,
sir Jeeves. A asked thieves, you're Jeeve, Anthony Jeeves.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Steve asked thieves Jeeves Steve. Or yeah, you could go
the other way, Steve dogging.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
So it's basically taking a flight and not doing anything
to entertain yourself. So you just sit and stare at
the seple in front of you, out the window at
other people. You do not provide yourself with any kind
of entertainment or distraction.

Speaker 10 (01:21:31):
Green screening for psychopaths is sleeping aloud like it's sleeping
Like if you sleep, does that mean you're you're raw
dogging too?

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
I feel like I feel like it would count because
you still aren't bringing any kind of entertainment for yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Which what are all the rules?

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
I bring stuff on the flight, like a book or
actually not like a book, always a book, because I
have flight anxiety and I try to bring something on
a plane that will distract me from my flight anxiety.
Movies don't often do it because sometimes movies get you
riled up, and I just don't. I usually will bring
some kind of book that I know will keep my

(01:22:12):
attention so that can take deep breaths and get over
my flight anxiety.

Speaker 10 (01:22:17):
You think there's anyone out there that thought that it
was just bringing a raw pack of hot dogs onto
a plane.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Oh, it's possible, But see that way, that wouldn't count
because you would have something on the plane to distract you. Yeah,
so actually bringing raw hot dogs can't do that. You
can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
That would not be But all the airbus update that
they had, all that information was involved in.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
But apparently it's it's a thing now that people are
saying is is possibly a good idea that they're onto
something by just going in and focusing on where you
are in the present moment, just being.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Present, focused on the task at hand. Here, just sit,
I'm in the middle seat and row thirty four where
I am for thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
But they're also hours. But people are also saying that
it's the only time in life where you you might
be able to sit in some kind of silence with
just your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
That it is not silent on an airplane.

Speaker 11 (01:23:06):
Oh yeah, well in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Your own mental silence where you don't have somebody else
talking to you. That maybe you can hear the ambient noise,
but that you can sit and be present in your
own mind.

Speaker 10 (01:23:18):
Might be a great excuse to pill people not to
talk to you. Hey, sorry, I'm raw dogging right now.
I'm in the middle of raw dogging.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Can't you tell you? Do you put a sign up
lick on your tray? You got it twice, raw doggs.

Speaker 9 (01:23:29):
The question is is why have you been on an
airplane and you've noticed somebody trying to do this? Because
this would suggest that there are enough people This is
enough of a thing that you get on random plane
heading back home and you see somebody just trying, trying
really hard, sitting there doing nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Doing nothing for hours on end. And people are doing this.
They're posting on social media about it, doing it on
like transatlantic flights, you know, the six, seven, eight, ten
hour flights, just being so.

Speaker 9 (01:23:58):
It worked raw dog for a whole segment.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Sure did.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
We're just being great job, just being no phone, no book,
no computer, nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
That's just dumb.

Speaker 11 (01:24:11):
This is good Morning Beat.

Speaker 9 (01:24:13):
Ever been in the cockpit before, Oh sir, I've never
been up an approved before.

Speaker 13 (01:24:20):
Ah boy.

Speaker 9 (01:24:21):
Nine minutes away from nine o'clock on WBT, We're back.
We're here.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Happy holidays coming up. In about thirty minutes.

Speaker 9 (01:24:31):
We will have US Senator Tom tell Us stopping by
the studio as he does now. And then I want
to make sure I get to this. Have a list
of award finalists for the twenty twenty five North Carolina
Sportscaster of the Year.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
I'm going to read some of these names.

Speaker 9 (01:24:51):
Deshaun Brown of WSOC here in Charlotta. I'm sorry, Deshon Brown, Sorry,
Eric Collins, Charlotte Hornets. Eric I said, Eric I know
Nick H Jones Angel Targets Jones Network. Jones is on
the list this year. Let's see Stan Cotton, longtime legendary

(01:25:12):
Wake Forest Radio Network, lear Field play by play guy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Especially never one by cotton Mouth God because he talks.
It'd be great.

Speaker 9 (01:25:20):
Jim Sizzoki, that is correct.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
That is the actual Hungarian pronunciation.

Speaker 9 (01:25:25):
What Carolina Panthers and ECU Sports Network. So Jim Zoki
is on this list of finalists for the North Carolina
Sportscaster of the Year. And it's a subsidiary of the
twenty twenty five n SMA. That's the National Sports Media
Association Awards. We'll find out in January.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Jim, that's so cool.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Thank you, thank you all for being a part of it.
I could have done it without you. Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Did they let you know? Did they call you to
tell you?

Speaker 13 (01:25:49):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
It's funny, really, I just told him Charlie Dayton needs
to be the PR director for the Panthers for many years.
Sent me a text congratulating on me. I was on
the list. I didn't even know I was on the list,
so there was no email or phone call.

Speaker 24 (01:26:03):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
It wasn't like the Hall of Fay, but I'm knocked
on the door and tell you to go to Canton.

Speaker 9 (01:26:06):
They play your life on the radio while you're in
the crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
I didn't have no production value.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
So it's just a congratulatory text that alerted you to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
This fact from a friend, not even from the committee.
But anyways, I'm excited. Let's not downplay. Let's say, let's
build it up for what it is. I'm in the
top eleven, top eleven in the entire state of North Carolina.
How about that. That's huge gym top eleven. Yeah, I'm
most favorite, suck it everyone else. I think it's like
that that helped me get Tory. I'm in the top

(01:26:37):
eight at least.

Speaker 15 (01:26:38):
So so.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Like my space, like I could name three who should not.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
So this is for This could be for either Panthers
work or ECU, just.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Like a body of work, just a stimulus build a
body of work.

Speaker 9 (01:26:53):
It's listed on here as Carolina Panthers and e CU.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
So it's so exciting you're body of workship?

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Is there a my body of Is there a big
awards banquet?

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
There is a huge banquet. They because they also do
a national sports writer and national sportscaster and they do
all the states. They also do sports writers. By the way,
where it was in Saulisbury, I think it's up in will.

Speaker 9 (01:27:20):
Be a Greensbury's Bro's Windom. The Wyndham Grand Hotel will
be The sixty sixth Annual Awards convention will be in June,
but the actual results of the North Carolina portion of
this will be announced in early January, and voting by
the members goes December first, So today through.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
The end of the month.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
How do you get to be a member so we
can vote for Jim z Ok?

Speaker 9 (01:27:42):
Is it too late?

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Just pay money and give them money to become a member.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Bring them up cod so exciting, I hope. Can we
all go to the banquet?

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Can we show up and be like a charing section?

Speaker 15 (01:27:50):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
If I win. This is actually by third time through
the years being nominated, so I've not gone any further
than this this point.

Speaker 11 (01:27:57):
Top eleven was a good morning, DT humble.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
A humble bragway said I didn't win.

Speaker 9 (01:28:02):
Hey, a humble bragg is not a bad thing, like
you just kind of nonchalantly said, it's the third time
I've been't it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
You just humbly said, you keep losing. I keep losing
In the wildcard round exactly. That was that was the
bigger point.

Speaker 9 (01:28:13):
I you gotta you gotta be nominated to win. And
Zochi is among the finalists this year. We should also
say that the they're doing the national Sports Caster of
the Year finalists as well. It's Mike Tarico, Kevin Harlan,
Scott van Pelt. And there's also a Hall of Fame
awards that are up for this year. And if I'm
trying to find uh Hall of Fame Sports Writer finalists

(01:28:35):
include Woje formerly of ESPN dot com uh and also
Ken Rosenthal of the athletics. So you're talking about some
big names both statewide and national and here, but who's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Jimmy up against the list?

Speaker 9 (01:28:49):
Jones, Angel is on here, Dayshaun Brown, U, let's see
Eric Collins, denisemp no Anise no Anish is not on
the list this year here but one yeah, Nick Carboni,
car Carboni, yeah from w c n C and Stancotton,

(01:29:09):
who's been the long time a Wake Forest Radio Network voice.
So yeah, I mean this is a this is a
decorated list here and no surprise that Zokie is there,
but I want to make sure here on December first,
we make reference to it, because hey, I mean, this
is a Hall of Famer zoke.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
It's with us every morning. But he deserves every bit
of this. Appreciate it. Hey, he's going to put that
out there. Uh, two time in a row. News Quiz Champion.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Oh that's true too. You're having a good year. This
might be your year to win.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
The Pirates are winning, the Panthers are winning. I mean,
I just feel like I think you're going to win
the sweet spot right now.

Speaker 10 (01:29:40):
Hey, guys, I just want to say that the website
Go vote for Gym dot com is available and it
is for sale dot dot com backslash for sale backslash
go for vote for Jim long E dot com.

Speaker 21 (01:29:54):
So no jonesanngel dot com hash tag barbecue be Beth
is going to vote for me, but for She's good
bye another coat.

Speaker 9 (01:30:01):
All right, So vote for Jim. Coming up nine o'clock
almost here on WBT nine nineteen. On WBT, we're expecting
to be joined by US Senator Tom Tillis for the
final half hour of the show. I'll tell you I

(01:30:24):
stuck my head out in the lobby to see if
he had arrived yet, and I thought I saw him gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
I hope he's listening right now.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
I hope he has the radio on, because this is delightful.

Speaker 9 (01:30:34):
I was looking out in the parking lot and I
saw two people getting out of a car.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Like he's on his way in.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
I thought, you were mistaken.

Speaker 9 (01:30:40):
Turns out it was the elevator repair man who just
walked past the studio.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
I'm like, oh, that's not Tom Tillo's a great mustache too,
a power mustache.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Which, yeah, till Us Tom till uses not having.

Speaker 9 (01:30:52):
No like from afar way at the other end of
the parking lot. I thought, Okay, that's and then I
realized that I was mistaken. So anyway, onto other things.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
She seems like a jolly man, though an elevator repair man,
he seemed very nice.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
I'm sure, I'm sure he's jolly.

Speaker 9 (01:31:10):
Anyway, a couple of political headlines to get to ahead
of the Senator here. On WBT first day of December,
President Trump talked to a gaggle of reporters on Air
Force One, as he is prone to do just about
every time he gets on Air Force One. You know,
people say things good or bad about President Trump. Accessible
is one of the hallmarks of his presidency's talking to

(01:31:32):
the media. He loves to do it, and last night
talking to reporters about a variety of things. Of course,
he had the two National Guards members that were injured
and one of them passed away heading into Thanksgiving. This
is late on Wednesday and has gotten President Trump once
again talking about illegal immigration and the plight of that

(01:31:52):
in our country. Right now, President Trump talking about that
two reporters last night.

Speaker 15 (01:31:56):
We had a lot of people in our country that
shouldn't be here, and they came into and he was
the worst president of the history of our country.

Speaker 7 (01:32:03):
But the single biggest thing he did.

Speaker 15 (01:32:06):
Was allowed me, the worst allow millions of people into
our country that shouldn't be here. At drug dealers and
prisons were opened up and allowed to come into our country.
You take a look at the people that were allowed
to come into our country. We're paying a big price
for it, and we will for years to come, including
the recent killer of two wonderful National Guards people.

Speaker 7 (01:32:29):
And I'll tell you what, that animal should not have
been allowed to come into our country. Thank you very much, everymind,
Thank you the Pats. I have spoken to both families. Well,
I mean I can give you an update that devastated.
Does that make sense to you? A devastated.

Speaker 9 (01:32:48):
He was also asked last night about a story I'm
sure you saw a good bit about this weekend President
Trump and Pete Hegsath Now. Trump said on Sunday he
believed that the Secretary of War was telling the truth
when he denied telling Sealed Team six to strike at
an alleged drug voat for a second time, to kill
any survivors.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
And they realized I think that there were two survivors.
The story is that he told them to go back
and strike again, and he is refuting that.

Speaker 9 (01:33:18):
Yeah. And this is this is that this wasn't this weekend,
this happened. This is a details report from the Washington Post.
Back when you heard the story of the boat that
was spotted by a drone in the Caribbean a few
months ago, that suspected drug trafficking vote that was annihilated.
Now there are reports that the Secretary of War reportedly

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ordered Seal Team six to kill everybody. And this is
after there were survivors found to be straggling there after
the first hit. President Trump was asked about this also
last night, you talked a little.

Speaker 16 (01:33:52):
Bit about the strikes and the controversy around the Secretary
of Defense.

Speaker 20 (01:33:56):
Keith Nigs said, I don't know anything about it, he said,
he said, he did.

Speaker 7 (01:33:59):
Not say that, and I believe that a lot of
you don't know.

Speaker 16 (01:34:02):
If there was a second who men the second strike
to kill the two men out of man?

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
He said, would you be okay with that if he did?

Speaker 20 (01:34:10):
He said, he didn't do it, so I have to
make that decision.

Speaker 9 (01:34:13):
Also, a story that has been making the rounds is,
of course, this story a few weeks ago of the senators,
the six Democratic lawmakers who posted a video to social
media reminding troops they did not have to follow quote
illegal orders unquote. One of those Senator Mark Kelly, of course,
out of Arizona. Now Kelly has been, you know, talking

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responding to things that President Trump has said. President Trump,
after hearing or seeing that video, basically said that those
people should be hanged. He also has been talking pretty
tough about Mark Kelly, in particular suggesting a court martial
by way of his Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth has
been talking about what should happen.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
To Mark Kelly.

Speaker 9 (01:35:00):
Mark Kelly was on CNN yesterday talking with Dana bash.

Speaker 17 (01:35:04):
We said something very simple and non controversial, and the
President of the United States said, hang them, execute them,
prosecute them. In my case, Secretary Hegsas said, prosecute him
under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. For by the way,
reciting the Uniform Code of Military Justice, it's obviously ridiculous.

(01:35:27):
But this is an attempt to silence me, to get
me to not hold this administration accountable. We have a
president who doesn't understand the constitution, who installed an unqualified
Secretary of Defense. I cannot think of a Secretary of
Defense in the history of our country that is less
qualified than Pete Hegseth.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
He should not be in this position.

Speaker 17 (01:35:50):
He should have been fired after Signal Gate, and now
he should be fired again for this if this is accurate.

Speaker 9 (01:35:57):
So he's not going to get me to back down.

Speaker 17 (01:35:59):
But what he is doing is sending a very chilling
message across our entire nation, not only in the military,
but the civilian workforce. Who's going to speak up and
say anything if they see something that's unlawful.

Speaker 9 (01:36:11):
Now, this that he was referring to is circling back
to the story we talked about a minute ago about
the Sealed Team six kill everybody order, and of course
before that, talking about the video that's gotten so much
attention this past week.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
And look, all of this ties into the video. It
all ties back to a story that was released by
PBS suggesting that there were people within the military who
have sought outside legal counsel because of some of the
decisions or orders they are or being asked to follow,

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that they are looking for legal answers. That was a
story that came out, then the video was released, and
then in all of that, we started seeing the stories
about one of those particular attacks and whether or not
the Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said the words and
gave the second order.

Speaker 9 (01:37:04):
Also right before Thanksgiving was the story about James Comy.
A federal judge dismissing the perjury case against the former
FBI director last week, and Cash Battel, the current FBI director,
was warning yesterday that perhaps this story is not quite
finished yet. This was the former FBI or the current

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FBI director, Cash Battel, appearing on.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
I Get to Find It.

Speaker 9 (01:37:33):
What I wrote down here, This is the current FBI
director talking about the Comy case.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
The criminal case against director Comy was recently dismissed. What
is your reaction to that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
Well, because it's pending in terms of appellet status and
what we are going to do for the next steps,
the judicial process can make whatever determination it wants, but we,
the FBI and our partners at the DOJ, have numerous
options to seed and we're executing on all those options.
So we're not done.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
I'm in any detail.

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
I would say stay tuned for right after Thanksgiving and
you'll see multiple responses in my opinion.

Speaker 9 (01:38:13):
So that was Cash Battel over the weekend in an interview,
and if what he says comes to fruition, that's where
we are now a few days after Thanksgiving, So this
week perhaps we'll see more to this chapter. But he
says numerous options to pursue in the case that was
said to be dismissed.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
And speaking of case dismissals, the criminal case against Donald
Trump and his co defendants in Georgia for the twenty
twenty election interference. It was dismissed toward the end of November,
the prosecutor in charge stating that the case was too
complex to prosecute effectively.

Speaker 11 (01:38:47):
This is Good Morning, Betty, with both Thobson and Beth Troutly.

Speaker 9 (01:38:56):
Huge Talk eleven ten, nine to nine three WBT to
you from the historic ty Boyd Studio. December is upon
us and as promised, here final stretch of the morning,
we have US Senator Tom Tillis, who has dropped by
one Julian Price Place. It's always good to have you,
whatever way we have you, but it's always best to
have you right here in the same room.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
Good to be here. Have you had a nice Thanksgiving?

Speaker 24 (01:39:19):
I had a fantastic one, as we always do it
in Middle Tennessee with about thirty five thirty six tillos
is running around.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
It's a lot of tillouses.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Yeah, that sounds like a fun event. I think they
want to spend next Thanksgiving with you guys.

Speaker 9 (01:39:31):
It's a lot of fun. It's we've we just love
getting together. There's no drama. It's why Thanksgiving is my
favorite holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
Do you say till I?

Speaker 15 (01:39:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
What is the plural of tillis?

Speaker 9 (01:39:41):
Yeah, we'll go with till I.

Speaker 11 (01:39:43):
I like that.

Speaker 9 (01:39:44):
So you speaking of home stretches, you know, first of
the year into twenty twenty six and you're starting to
think of home stretches a little. I mean, how do
you view things at this point, you obviously are in
your final term and we're rounding the corner into a
new year. What's on the agenda for you?

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Well, I want to.

Speaker 9 (01:40:03):
Get a lot done.

Speaker 24 (01:40:04):
I tell everybody it's three hundred and ninety eight days
incidentally before my last day in the Senate, and people
think I'm counting the days. I'm just mindful of the
amount of time I have left to get stuff done.
And there's a lot of things that we do and
committees that I work on. I'm working on tax policy,
intellectual property policy, banking, finance policy, veterans policy, and judiciary.

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We're working on judges and again intellectual property.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
So I got a lot of work to do.

Speaker 24 (01:40:31):
I'm want to focus on legislating and trying to position
Republicans to win next year.

Speaker 9 (01:40:35):
So there are two big stories I want to start
with somewhat related in that they're huge crimes that people
have talked about, but they're in different places. And today,
being December first, we're coming back on the air here
first time being able to talk since the terrible story
heading into the Thanksgiving holiday, and that is where two

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National Guard members were in a targeted ambush just blocks
away from the White House. One of those people passed
away and one is in still very bad condition. Now
I bring that story up also today, December first, is
the first day that Arena's law goes into effect in

(01:41:18):
North Carolina, of course, on the heels of what happened
on the Charlotte light rail, a terrible tragic crime back
in August. So I want to get your thoughts on
those two stories as we begin here.

Speaker 24 (01:41:29):
Well, first off, at the root of both of those
incidents were behavioral health, mental health challenges. We know about
the stabbing here of the Ukrainian Arena Todd her family members.

Speaker 9 (01:41:44):
It's a horrible thing, and the same thing's true up
in d C.

Speaker 24 (01:41:48):
But again, this person who came over on an SIV
visa obviously had behavioral health problems.

Speaker 9 (01:41:54):
I don't know if that occurred after he got here.

Speaker 24 (01:41:56):
That just wasn't caught in screening horrible tragic events. One
thing I am concerned with, particularly with the event up
in well, actually both of them for different reasons. You
may not know that there are Ukrainians here that are
not getting work authorizations. They haven't been reauthorized for work
in this administration, who were on special visas, but the

(01:42:19):
special immigrant visas that we used for interpreters. I helped
get interpreters out of Afghanistan. We've just got to make
sure that we don't have a knee jerk reaction and
cast everyone in the same lot. Otherwise we could be
putting people who deserve to be in this country and
deserved to protected status at risk.

Speaker 9 (01:42:35):
But it was a horrible loss.

Speaker 24 (01:42:37):
The twenty year old young lady who died, the gentleman
who's in critical condition. We pray for them and hope
that he improves, and pray for the families of the
lost soldier.

Speaker 9 (01:42:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Secretary Nome was on the Sunday talk shows over the
weekend saying that she believed that this shooter was radicalized
once he arrived here in the United States. Have you
heard that discussion?

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
No, I haven't.

Speaker 9 (01:43:02):
I mean, if she has data to back it up,
I could accept that.

Speaker 24 (01:43:08):
But I think it's also seems to be that the
information coming in now is the had a behavioral health problem,
So it could have been a combination of the two.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
One of the big questions that some people have, and
it's certainly the opponents of having the National Guard in
cities to begin with, and Washington, d C. Is of
course a different case than Chicago or even here in Charlotte.
But the opponents of having the National Guard in the
cities are suggesting that they are put in a position
where they can't really enforce anything that they are, that

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they're kind of put in a position where their hands
are tied behind their backs, and that maybe a better
resource would be more funding and more police officers than
actually putting the National Guard.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
I agree.

Speaker 24 (01:43:50):
I was at a judiciary committee hearing we had a
state center from Tennessee coming in when they were talking
about sending the National Guard from another state in the
Memphis and I said, I was Speaker of the House
in North Carolina, and I would have considered myself having
been guilty of a personal failure if I had to
bring in the National Guard from other states.

Speaker 9 (01:44:10):
To protect my citizens in North Carolina.

Speaker 24 (01:44:13):
So I think the fact of the matter is police
are trained differently the National guardsmen. National guardsmen are recruited
to go to the Middle East, not Middle America. And
if there's a if there is a dire situation where
a governor needs help, I think that's the way to
do it. I just do not believe I think it's
foundational to states' rights. If we've got a dangerous situation

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North Carolina, vote the bums out that made it dangerous.

Speaker 9 (01:44:39):
And the fact of the matter is we did have a.

Speaker 24 (01:44:40):
Sanctuary but de facto policy here in Mecklenburg County that
I've had a problem with for years. But hold them accountable,
get a new sheriff, get a new mayor. Do what
you have to do to protect your state and your city.
But don't necessarily import people who were trained and best
prepared to take the fight overseas.

Speaker 9 (01:45:02):
Police officers are very deep.

Speaker 24 (01:45:03):
They're about community policing, They're about building relationships, they're about
de escalation. It's a very different discipline that we shouldn't
expect the National Guardsmen to necessarily have in their skill set.

Speaker 9 (01:45:15):
You mentioned the sheriff. I want to come back around
to him for a moment. I mentioned the Arena Zarutzka
Arena's law that goes in effect today. The law restricts
judges and magistrates to a larger degree from releasing violent
and repeat offenders before trial. Meckliberg County Sheriff Gary McFadden
said he anticipates that the jail, which is at functional capacity.

(01:45:36):
He says, we'll see a large surge of inmates and
strain the jail's staff. What about this law going into
effect and what it may now entail.

Speaker 24 (01:45:47):
Well, I do think that there should be increased attention
options if the jails stop big enough to build a
bigger jail or identify other resources. There are other jurisdictions
that he could potentially work with. We know this, he's
a member of the Sheriff's Association. There's a way to actually,
I think keep the community safer. One of the things
we have to do, though, is make sure that if
people are in a behavioral health crisis, that we send

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them to the right facility. Otherwise we're not doing our
community any favors by either releasing them or putting them
in a facility where we're warehousing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Is there legislation that needs to change in order to
get people the mental health that they need? Is are
there legislation changes that should happen on a state level?

Speaker 24 (01:46:29):
Well, I tell you one thing that I wish and
that I'll be working on in my remaining time in
the Senate. But after that, it's the full implementation of
the Safer Communities Act. It's a bill that I led
with John Corny and Kirson Cinema and Chris Murphy. That
was the single largest investment in behavioral health that the
states have to request and they have to implement. But

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it's more brick and mortar behavioral health facilities, it's more
resources that the state can use to address the chronic
problem of behavior. There's just not enough resources, there's not
enough capacity, and it's one of the reasons why we
have some of these horrible outcome. I'm not excusing what
the man did murder Arena. What I'm saying is maybe

(01:47:12):
there was some intervention earlier that could have avoided that
if we were smarter on trading behavioral health challenges.

Speaker 9 (01:47:18):
Tom Tillis US Senator Tom Tillis is in studio with
us here on this Monday morning, December. First, we talked
about the National Guard. Another huge story that has been
focused on Charlotte over the last several weeks has been
this Operation Charlotte's Web with the Border Patrol being here,
and again, it depends on who you talk to as

(01:47:40):
to whether or not this is wrapped up or whether
or not it's just at a at a lull and
is going to crank back up again, But what are
your thoughts on what you saw with the Border Patrol
apprehending people here in Charlotte.

Speaker 24 (01:47:52):
I want to I want to make sure that we
execute it properly and it was worth the investment. I'm
asking for the telled event reports for every encounter. What
was the encounter? Was the person?

Speaker 9 (01:48:08):
Was the person who they thought they were? Were they
legally present?

Speaker 7 (01:48:11):
Did you detain them?

Speaker 24 (01:48:12):
Did you you know, we've seen a couple of reports
where they busted out a window or they obviously got
the wrong person. They should not be that person, should
not have to have a household to get their window
replaced or whatever. They were legally present. So I'm more
about efficacy. Did you go in and do what you
said you were going to do. Did the majority of
the people that you arrest and detain have criminal records?

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Which was the primary reason to be here. And that's
for two reasons. I just like good execution number one.
Number two, I don't like negative light being cast on
any North Carolina city unless there's a good reason for
there to be that. So you know, when they we're
talking about bringing the National Guard down here, it would
not have met with it would not have, I would
not have met them with open arms.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
We don't have that kind of a problem in Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
You know, there's a lot of discussion around this issue
of immigrants, the fact that the people who were here
illegally or breaking the law, breaking immigration law, but there's
never really any real discussion about the citizens who are
breaking the law by hiring, which is also an immigration
law that is being broken but somehow excused.

Speaker 24 (01:49:16):
But even if we just separate that whole discussion from
the criminal element, I want to go after drug traffickers,
human traffickers, people with a criminal record. There are a
lot of illegally present people here that we need to
apprehend and detain and deport or convict of whatever other

(01:49:38):
outstanding crimes they may have. I think that we're not
allocating our resources properly by going after people if the
only law they broke was crossing into the country, Yes,
at some point we need to deal with them, But
there are millions of them. Why don't we go after
the hundreds of thousands of hardened criminals and be very
exquisite in our intelligence and execution and leave the rest
of the community alone until we get to that. That

(01:50:00):
should be the that should be the primary goal of
homeland security. Secure our homeland, go after the bad people,
not necessarily people who left their country because they were desperate.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
I get it.

Speaker 24 (01:50:12):
I'm not excusing the fact that they're here illegally. But
we've got a bigger and broader problem we have to
deal with on border patrol or border security and immigration reform,
separate from what's going on right now.

Speaker 11 (01:50:25):
This is Good Morning BT.

Speaker 9 (01:50:29):
Final stretch here on Good Morning BT Bo Thompson, Beth Troutman,
and in studio. US Senator Tom Tillis has stopped by
on his way back to d C. Good to have
you in here, as always great to be back. So
I have a boy, I just no way I can
get to all of these, but I'm just gonna start
to reduce ab out of yes no questions lightening around

(01:50:51):
Trump yes or no. Yes, Trump is part of many
of these Trump. Let me start with the one that's
seemingly most recent and in President Trump, as you know,
is prone to when he has any downtime, we'll start
firing off truth social messages. Never know which direction they're
going to go. The latest one or one of the
latest involves voiding orders not directly signed by Joe Biden,

(01:51:16):
the auto pen that he likes to talk about so much.
There was a tweet or a truth social message of
the weekend that he's going to basically declare anything that
is found to be auto penned or not signed by
Biden as null and void. Well, I think you need
to look through that. You can't have a pick and
choose policy.

Speaker 24 (01:51:35):
So if you decide to do that on a blanket basis,
you better look for the unintended consequences.

Speaker 9 (01:51:41):
But the reality is, we have an autopen in our office.

Speaker 24 (01:51:43):
They call it a frank to where I have to
have letters and other things signed the normal course of business.

Speaker 9 (01:51:49):
Allow my staff to do that.

Speaker 24 (01:51:51):
I just think you need to be very surgical and
that also expect the same thing to happen in the
next administration.

Speaker 9 (01:51:56):
Against Donald Trump's orders. One of the other tests called
political fits.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
One of the other truth social posts over the weekend
that raised eyebrows, he put out into the world that
he thought all airspace over Venezuela should be completely closed,
including commercial traffic, and that is raising eyebrows both in
the European Union but also in South America about what
our intentions are with Venezuela, given all of the attacks

(01:52:22):
that have happened on the alleged drug boats.

Speaker 9 (01:52:26):
Yeah, I think we need to be careful with that.

Speaker 24 (01:52:29):
We need to be very careful with the consideration of
an incursion on land in Venezuela. But I tell you
the other thing we have to do is just be consistent.
We've got it a Honduran president who is just went
to prison last year after being convicted in the United States,
after being convicted of trafficking four hundred a million times.

(01:52:50):
It's a big number, I know that. But the thing
that we're going after Madura for we're considering pardoning the
Honduran president, is like, first, let's be intellectually con assistant
number one. Number two, let's be methodical if we're about
to wage war on Venezuela, and let's leave the messaging
to the pros on the ground that know how best

(01:53:11):
the message that thing and hopefully of heart of war.
But this Hon Durham president, that will not make me
happy if they followed through with that. That is an
absurd thing for the United States of America to do.
To let somebody who's pumped millions of tons of cocaine
into the blood of American citizens, let them go unacceptable.

Speaker 9 (01:53:31):
The Seal Team six strike of that alleged vote that
we've heard the story of, we've seen the footage of it,
and now in the last several days there's this report
from the Washington Post that the Secretary of Defense or
Secretary of War, Pete heg Seth, ordered Seal Team six
to strike it again and kill everybody aboard. We've talked before,

(01:53:54):
and you were somebody who was right down to the
wire in the confirmation process about Pete Hegg say to
begin with so to this story specifically, and then sort
of pulling back about where we are with that particular
member of the president's cabinet several months in what are
your thoughts?

Speaker 24 (01:54:10):
I was reading this weekend that Oxford Dictionary. The word
of the year is rage bait. I'm trying to determine
whether or not this is rage bait. If it's if
it's proven to be true, then mister heg Sith is
at least he's violated a moral or ethical code, if
not a law. If it proves to be true, so

(01:54:32):
I'm still in the is it rage bait or not?
But if it proves to be true it's very clear.

Speaker 9 (01:54:36):
Look on Lake.

Speaker 24 (01:54:37):
Norman, I have an obligation to help a distress vote
vote right and war. If you think that you have
neutralized the enemy, you have an obligation to try and
recover and return them. They did return to if you
recall the semi submersible, so they did actually apprehend return to.
They may not have had assets to save them, but

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calling them out of the water if they were defenseless
is actually an ethical or legal violation, and if someone
did that knowingly, they need to be held accountable.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
How will this send an investigation into Pete Hegseth go.

Speaker 9 (01:55:11):
Well, I think we'll have to figure out.

Speaker 24 (01:55:14):
That will probably be at a classified briefing or classified
setting because there are a lot of methods that they're
using there that need to be classified. But it'll be
be a very detailed analysis, and I'm glad to see
on a bipartisan baby we want to get to the
facts because we owe it to Secretary Hegseeth if it's
in fact not true, to clear his name.

Speaker 9 (01:55:32):
Well, and also heg Seth, as it relates to your
colleague Mark Kelly from Arizona calling for at least threatening
a court martial, after this, you know, that was part
of the response and along with the President, to this
video that was posted by those six lawmakers basically saying
that you know, you don't have to follow illegal orders.

Speaker 24 (01:55:56):
But I tell you, I was in Halifax at a
security conference last week and I was sitting with two
I consider friends, Peter Welch and Angus King, on a panel.

Speaker 9 (01:56:05):
And that may be rage baiting too.

Speaker 24 (01:56:08):
Look, it should be intuitively obvious to anyone serving in
the military if they know that something is patently illegal
that they're being asked.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
To do, don't do it.

Speaker 24 (01:56:19):
They didn't need to do that video, so I'm kind
of wondering what the motivation was. I think that they
were trying to bait Republicans into into that sort of exchange.
But that's a no brainer. Anybody who qualifies to be
in the military smart enough to know if they see
something that's illegal, they don't do it, They refuse to
do it, and the court martial system will uphold their decision.

(01:56:41):
So it could be rage baiting. And I think in
that case that they now the flip side. Let me
back up, because I want to cover the Kelly thing.
I think, hey, Seth is waiting in the dangerous waters
by saying calling him back in court martialing, he may
get the same thing someday because he is former military.

Speaker 9 (01:56:58):
Next administration may have the same consideration. I think let's
move on, guys.

Speaker 24 (01:57:03):
I mean, my gosh, we need a little bit of
adults in the room being a little bit more mature.
Stop all this back and forth. This sort of amateurish
or childish behavior at either end of the spectrum is
not a vote tainer.

Speaker 13 (01:57:16):
Are you.

Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
Very nice here that Pete Calender?

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Are you impressed?

Speaker 9 (01:57:23):
Are you optimistic or pessimistic about twenty twenty six?

Speaker 24 (01:57:26):
I think right now we've you know, you're you're always
going to have a challenge in the in the year
the congressional elections after a new president's in place. But
we've got to we've got to get serious about health care.
We've got to get We've got to just calm down.
I want to be the adults in the room. Let
the Democrats continue to be the liberal uh uh, you

(01:57:48):
know fanatics that some of them can be.

Speaker 9 (01:57:52):
But I'm watching the display up here earlier.

Speaker 24 (01:57:55):
I now know how to pronounce Afton Bay and spell
her name because I was at Middle Tennessee all weekend
and there's ads running non stop. Republicans need to understand
when you've got a district that's in play, or we
may only win by single digits.

Speaker 9 (01:58:10):
At Trump carried by twenty points. Pay attention, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:58:13):
You can learn from that.

Speaker 9 (01:58:14):
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