Good Morning BT | Scott Hamilton in for Bo and Beth - Good Morning BT with Bo Thompson & Beth Troutman

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From the one o seven point nine f m WBT,
Charlotte's FM news talking. This is Good Morning BT with
both Thompson and Beth Trump.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Good morning, and it's Friday, the twenty sixth day in December.
It's good Morning BT. No Poe, no Beth. They're off
doing Bo and Beth stuff. Scott Hamilton with you for
the next four hours.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
But I'm not riding solo. We've got Bernie at the
steel wheels, George over on the phones. And it's the
day after Christmas. It's December twenty sixth.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's the saddest day of the year, but we'll try
not to make it too darn depressing.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
By the way, post holiday blues, that is a thing.
I didn't realize how serious it was, but it is
is a thing people get. They get so ramped up
for the holiday, and then when the holidays are over,
they're just like, oh my gosh, what am I going
to do now? What am I going to do now?
I think you just keep on moving. Well, maybe you're
depressed because you got to take a tree down. Maybe

(01:15):
you're depressed because you've rolled up a ton of debt,
which a lot of people do during the holidays, and
that's something we are going to discuss later this hour.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Holiday debt.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's shocking the amounts of money people spend over the holidays,
absolutely shocking. We are going to spend as a society
more than one trillion dollars that's trillion with a tea
this holiday season. And the average family, average family, now,
because there's some people who don't spend a darn dime
or some people that spend a whole lot, average family

(01:47):
is going to spend at least thirteen hundred bucks. They're
going to go in debt thirteen hundred dollars over this
past holiday. Wow, that's a lot of money, especially in
this economy. How do you how do you? How do
you deal with that?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
What do you do to offset that extra expense going forward?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
We've got Kaylee Welsh, she's a financial education expert at
a wealth Wealth and Financial Education. She's going to join
us six thirty. I'm gonna get her take on it.
I mean, what do you do when you've already screwed
the pooch and you're in debt? How do you deal
with it going forward into twenty twenty six? Wells Kaylee Welsh,
that question Bernie, did did you spend a lot of

(02:25):
money this Christmas? Especially now that you're a dad? It
felt like, did you find yourself? I mean, do you
add up the credit card?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Bier?

Speaker 4 (02:31):
I went, no, No, we try not to use the
credit card if we can. I went to take advantage
of the Black Friday deals, got my son a power
wheel this Christmas, and I got to say it was awesome.
It's the one with the parental remote because he's not
old enough to drive it himself yet, so I just
I drive him around with the remote control. So it's
fun for both of us. It's like a giant remote
control car and your your child is in it.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
But it's really really fantastic. Oh yeah, you live in
like at You live in like a senior community.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yes, yes, it is a retirement community.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's not gated.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Now you'll fit in, Yes, I fat right, And I
mean I'm in bed by seven o'clock. We're very quiet.
So I think it's a it's a nice give and
take there in the in the retirement community.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
So and and and again, and we're kind of chasing
rabbits here. But now that you are a father, this
is your second Christmas?

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Is it at yes.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, because he was born in August of twenty four,
so he was really young when we had our first
official Christmas. So this Christmas he was able to kind
of enjoy. He still is not great about unwrapping presents,
but when he sees that it's something for him, he
gets super excited.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
So that's really fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
My son is an adult now, but I remember his
first like real Christmas because he was born in May,
and when his Christmas rolled around, I remember being at
the in laws and he was they you know, they'd
gotten him gifts and all this, you know, and he's
not even a year old. He might have been actually
might have been the following year. I might be mistaken,
but he was obsessed with the wrapping paper. Yeah, and

(03:59):
we're all talking about how much money we could have
saved if we had just given him some wrapping paper.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
He was a box. We still have some of that.
We still have some of that wrapping paper. Really. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
My our son will play with the boxes that we
that we have the toys in, so it's like a
cat kind of you know, you get a cat a
toy and then they just play with the box.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I still like boxes, but Kaylee Wells.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
We're going to get her take on the holiday bet
when he joins us later this hour. And speaking speaking
of post holiday, here's there's a post holiday stat We're
in the middle of one of the busiest travel days,
not only of during this holiday stretch, but of this year.
One hundred and twenty two point four million people expected
to travel between December tenth and New Year's Day.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
That's a lot of people. Here's what is shocking.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
And I know it's early and I might actually be
jinking jinxing this right now. I'm looking at the at
flight Aware, you know, tracks all the flights across the country.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Man, thanks for e then smoothly. So if you're traveling today,
at least via air, you're going to be okay, presumably
right now at six ten am Eastern time. Now, of course,
that can flip on its head at any moment, so
that's good to know.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Now, if you're out on the highways and byways, then
we'll check in with our friend Boomer shortly.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
That could be a different proposition. So just be careful
and be Patient's a that's a fact. Be patient. Federal
holiday today.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I gotta get some clarity on that didn't used to
be It's boxing Day. But let me ask you this, Bernie,
did you know it about boxing Day? For some reason?
I always thought that was like a Canadian.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Hogh, what is that box boxing Day?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't know, but it's today and the President made
today a holiday.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Is it about? What does he mean by boxing? Like
the like, the like the act of boxing like a boxer.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
It is. It is a holiday.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
It is observed in the UK and Commonwealth places at
the YadA YadA of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, so on
and so forth, and it is a holiday there.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
We don't celebrate it either way.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
The President made today federal holiday, so a lot of
stuff's closed. Here's the origins of boxing Day. It was
a day for the wealthy to give quote Christmas boxes
gives her money to servants, trades people and the poor.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Oh so this is this is for our downtrodden folks.
The day after Christmas down tried great words.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Wow, I didn't get the DA day, Scott. What does
that mean? No? I got called in we're working. I
got called you know I'm working tonight too. I don't
know I feel about that. How about that happy boxing way?
To us Gott Happy Boxing Day.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Hottest hottest Christmas in Charlotte one hundred and forty seven years,
by the way, seventy eight.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Degrees, Yeah, I believe it. It was warm yesterday.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Do you like that?

Speaker 4 (06:42):
No, I mean I feel like it needs to be
I would love a white Christmas. But it did feel
it felt nice at certain points yesterday. I was like, Wow,
this is great ride with the windows down, but it
needs to be cold.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's December.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I mean, come on, it was ten degrees last Monday,
like it was ten It was a real feel of
ten degrees here in Charlotte, like a little over a
week ago, which feels insane to me.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I don't. I don't like to wear a lot of
clothing anyhow. I'm that guy.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
As you get older, you find yourself willing to wear
slides and shorts and sweatshirts more.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
You know. I mean, I'm not running around buck naked,
but I don't like to be constricted. No, nobody wants
to see that. But I don't.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Even seventy eight degrees on December twenty sixth to me,
feels it does feel a little wrong.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
But people live in Florida. That's that's their deal man.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
They're used to that, they're used to that.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
That's their deal anyway. One hundred and twenty two point
four million people expected to travel between December tenth and
New Year's Day.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
A lot of people on the roads right now. And
here's a professional segue, Bernie. We're gonna check them with
our friend Boomer Voncannon. What so, yes, sir, Merry Christmas, brother,
Howard was Scott?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Great to have you in here too, sir, Great to
have you bloomber Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Let me ask you one quick question. What was the
highlight of your Christmas Day?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Watching my grandson grab a hold of everything he could
get his hands off, everything he can get his hands on,
and laughing the whole time. Yeah. How old is he? Man?
He's nine months now? Oh wow? Yeah, come by quick boy.
Bernie's kid can mentor him old JD. That's right, JD.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
This is Good Morning Bet.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
We are Charlotte's FM News Talk one O seven point
nine FMWBT. Scott Hamilton filling in for bo filling in
for path on Good Morning BT. Bernie at the Steel Wheels,
George over doing George things on this December twenty sixth,
the day after Christmas, and I'm kind of bummed. I mean,
I get excited for Christmas. I get fired up for Christmas.

(08:48):
I love the whole Christmas vibe. I don't care for
the gifts and all that. I mean, I like giving gifts.
I don't care if I get gifts or not. I'm
not trying to act like I'm, you know, some awesome
human being or anything.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
But I enjoy giving gifts.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
As I get older, I'm giving more than to get,
and so I guess that's showing some growth on my part.
But I do less and less on Christmas now as
I get older, I don't travel as much as I
used to. I don't have as many traditions as seems
like as I used to Bernie, this is the God's
honest truth. If I'm lying, I am dying. Here's how

(09:23):
I spent Christmas Day. I alternated back and forth between
Christmas vacation and it's a wonderful life. I saw each
one about four times. I'm not kidding you, maybe five.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
He would be.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Jealous of that Christmas there' Scott.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
It wasn't bad. Yeah, it wasn't bad.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Now here's what I did not do, and I do
want to get your take on this. Here's what I
did not do. I did not watch and you know
my background. I did not watch one minute, one second
football of sports, No NFL, in NFL trying to elbow
it's way into Christmas.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Take it from the NBA.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
I didn't watch a second of any sports, No NFL,
no NBA. I didn't watch anything sports related.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Watched a little bit of the next game yesterday they
played the Calves. My in laws are huge Knicks and
Jets fans, so they love watching NBA. So I watched
a little bit of that, but that's about it. I
didn't watch too much football. Oh you married one of
those people?

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
They got him a Knick shirt for Christmas, but then
they turned around and got him a hornet sweatshirt, so
I was okay with that, the little one, God bless them.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, well okay, but then you're you're the perfect demographic then,
And actually I welcome anybody to call him at this
if they want to give me their thoughts on it.
About the NFL moving in Christmas seven oh four five
seven oh one o one oh seven nine seven oh
four five seven oh one oh seven nine, How do
you feel about the NFL on Christmas because the NFL
already has Thanksgiving. Now he keeps expanding its its menu,

(10:55):
and it has three games on Christmas.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Now the Lions.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
The Lions play both days, which they're not exactly happy
about because those guys have families too. Cowboys too cowboy
cowboys exactly. But how do you feel about it, Bernie?
I mean, should it be sacrosanct for just the NBA
well first, or should it be anybody.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Should not be having any NFL games on Netflix. I
did not enjoy that yesterday. It took me forever to
figure and I'd forgotten. We actually talked about it on
the show about how Netflix got the Christmas the Christmas
Day game, and I'm like, oh, where's this football game
that everybody is talking about? It's on Netflix? It was
I did not I did not enjoy the experience on Netflix.
I'll just say that it feels weird to have to
go to five different streaming networks to watch an NFL

(11:40):
game and figure out which one it's on. I just
I feel like, you know, get off my lawn and
you know, old man yells at Cloud. But I miss
I miss Cable. I miss just being able to go
on a guide and be like, oh wow, I'll just
go to you know, the sports channels and see what's
what's on. Now I gotta go to Peacock or Netflix
or Hulu to watch, you know, three different NFL games.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I just feel like it's it's first world problems. But
I don't know it. Scott, I don't like it. Do
you have cable? You're you don't have cable? No? No,
I just have I have.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
You know, everybody else has to try to get the
least amount of uh subscriptions that you can to get
the most amount.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Of TV that you watch. So I have Hulu Live
and Peacock is what I usually use.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Emm's family has a Netflix big on Peacock because I
watched The Office, so I have The Office.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
On all the time.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Okay, okay, well I wow, you have an entire subscription
just for the Office base we I.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Mean I watch other stuff on the p shock, but
it's pretty much the Office. I mean I watch Hell's Kitchen,
you know, restaurant kitchen nightmares. You ever watched anything Gordon Ramsey,
I'm all about it.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I know now.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
I now it's funny you do mention that I I
watched I watched a cooking show last night. Oh, I
watched Bobby Flay's Triple Threat, the Holiday Edition. I watched
a couple of those, absolutely fantastic. But I cut the
cord a long time ago. I'm a YouTube TV guy.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
I record and you might find I dv are if
that's the proper word. Now, I guess just say recorded
all all the office. It's set to record, so it's
in my library.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Well what happens if you don't have YouTube TV anymore?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Goes away? Right? But yeah, it goes away and it's done.
I have hard copies. That's of the office. What about you, Scott?
You got DVDs. I I don't even have a DVD player.
Oh I have no, I have no. I'm trying. I mean, yeah,
that's where we are now. I mean I am a
prisoner to YouTube TV.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
And when they had their beef with Disney, you know, ESPN,
ABC and all that, I was, dude, I am I
am doing things like cobble together television.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I felt like I was lost.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I couldn't watch college football, I couldn't watch a lot
of things, and I was just really I didn't realize
how connected.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
I was, especially in your world with the sports world,
you have to you have to have subscriptions to basically
every streaming network to be able to consume everything.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
You know, I've saying, you know, I'm thinking, you know,
what was it like with my grandfather, you know, growing
up having to sit around a radio wow before a
horseman riding in the Yankee stadium, you know, something like that.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Actually kind of miss those days.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
I used to listen to NC State basketball games of
Gary Han is it Gary Han and toes and they
used to call those games in my room. I would
listen to those on my radio, and those It takes
a certain type of person to call on radio because
you have to paint that picture.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
And I missed. I kind of miss that. It's too
much work. It's much work. It is an art. It
is an art.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
And if you ever and I know a lot of
those guys, and we're all over the place with this,
but I know a lot of those guys, and you
look at how they prepare. Okay, our friend Jim Zochi, yes,
when he is calling games, it is.

Speaker 7 (14:51):
It is hard.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Jim is gonna.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
I've done a high school game one time, Scott and
it was one of the most difficult things I've done
a high school game, and I cannot doing that at
a professional level. And jim Is is great at saying
the most with the least amount of words.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Or forget the professional level, think about college. And I
have a friend I don't know if you know, Darren Vott.
He's the playboff voice he was. I need to check
in with him for Elon Elon basketball and to my knowledge,
and I might be speaking on a turn and I
need to confirm this with him, but I want to
say that there are there are often periods where he
does not have a color analyst, meaning it's just him.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Okay, so he's got to fill all that time.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
And it's a Division one university, So you got to
sound good, and you got to be knowledgeable, not just
about Elon, but you got to know everything about the
other team, like you know the small forwards, third cousin
on his mother's side.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yeah, and it's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
And then spouting out all these different stats and then
like you said, painting a picture. Oh and it's it's
a loopy swing pass to the left down under a
low with a lob.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I mean it's hard, it's very difficult.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
This is Good Morning Beating.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
News Talk, one of seven nine FMWBT, Scott Hamilton, filling
in for Bo and Beth.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
They're off doing Bo and Beth stuff on this December
twenty sixth, to day after Christmas. And I'm wondering this.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
How many people are sitting back, Well, they're probably in
bed right now, but the folks are up. I wonder
how many are taking stock of how much they spent
during this Christmas season. Higher prices across the board on
just about everything, and yet more than one third of
holiday shoppers racked up debt this season, averaging twelve hundred

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and twenty three dollars. That's according to one recent survey.
That's actually up from last year about forty bucks. And
if they had kids, that average is even higher. A
little over thirteen hundred dollars spent during the holiday season
all told, and this is the number that gets my attention.
All told, holiday spending expected to surpass one trillion trillion

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with a T dollars for the first time ever ever,
and a lot of that is being paid down the road,
not now, which means interest, which means stress, which means anxiety.
And it's just a cycle that just keeps going and
going and going. Well, what do you do if you're

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one of those people now.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
That has a little extra debt or extra debt? What
do you do?

Speaker 3 (17:33):
How do you get things straightened out or at least
keep your head above water. We're going to ask those
questions of our guest. She is a financial education expert.
She's with Wealth and Financial Education. It's Kaylee Welsh getting
up early to speak with us. Kayley, good morning, how
are you?

Speaker 8 (17:50):
Good morning, Scott, Thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Happy holidays, Heiley, I are what happy holidays to you?
And you are a financial expert. You know how to bandle,
balance budget? Do you know how to guide people to
shepherd them with regards to their finances. Let's say I'm
the average Joe. I overdid it during Christmas. I've got
to figure out now how to keep this thing afloat

(18:13):
over the next twelve months or so. What is the
very first thing I do in order to try to
get myself corrected?

Speaker 8 (18:23):
Sure, yeah, that's a great question. I'm sure there's quite
a few people who are feeling that way right now.
The first thing is to get grows in the dark.
So really to look at it, face it, write it down,
Write down which which one's what that you have and
interest rates that you have with it, and so first

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to write that down and then next there's a couple
of things you can do. One you can actually call
your credit card company and they might be able to
help you give a lower percentage rate for a little while,
or they can help you they can work with you
on that for a couple of months. You can also
if you have between five and ten thousand in debt

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on your credit card, a good option is to open
a zero percent interest rate credit card and that way
you can move your debt over and make sure that
you have a plan to pay that off with a
lower interest rate. What's great about Charlotte is that we
have some great local credit unions that can help you
with some personal loans, but do the same thing well

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for a lower rate for a consolidation loan. That can
help you. So right now, there's a couple of different ways.
There's also two different strategies. One's called the avalanche method
and one's called the snowball method. Where an avalanche method
is that you organize your debts and whatever is the

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highest percentage you pay that off. First, and so really
getting organized and the plan of how you can do
that snowball. You start small and then you grow, gain
some momentum, and the ball builds, and then someday you'll
have all daid off.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
You know? Is that the biggest thing when it comes
to these situations? Kaylee? Education?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I mean, I know that's your field. I know that's
what you specialize in, but it's so easy, so easy
for so many people to get a credit card or
to get into some kind of situation where they're spending
money on credit and they say, all, I'll pay it
down the road. But they're not fully schooled on the ramifications,
they're not fully schooled in the terms, they're not fully

(20:27):
schooled on the on the interest rate, and they're not
fully schooled. But it does with their entire financial situation,
not just that loan or however you want to frame it.

Speaker 8 (20:38):
Yeah, absolutely, I think that's something. The reason why I
started my company was because I feel like in our
education system, we weren't prepared with the handbook for life
of how to deal with personal finance. And so really
what I do is make all the stuff that you're
supposed to learn and score you wish you'd learned in school.
I teach it now to help people hate them. Understand

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credit cards, understand debt, understand spending strategies, investing all of
those things.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
We're joined by Kaylee Welsh, financial education expert for wealth
Ed Financial Education and go to her website wealth ed
dot c. As we go forward, and let's say we've
already gotten ourselves into one of these situations where we
are having to pay a high interest rate, and you
talk about reframing things. What can people do though, maybe

(21:30):
and they refinance these things, what can they do though
to kind of going forward to avoid getting hit with
high interest rates? Suppose I have an average credit score
and yeah, I'm wanting to have a big holiday season
in twenty twenty six. How do I manage to position
myself to be better going forward in order to have
another year rest spend more money?

Speaker 8 (21:51):
Yeah, that's great thinking. I love if you were saying
about some of the stats from earlier that thirteen these
people spend about thirteen hundred, Well, I mean that's right now.
I mean over a span of twelve months, you could
save to get to that point. So I would set
up a mini savings account, or at least part of
your savings account dedicated to twenty twenty sixth holiday season, right,

(22:15):
and you can save you know, if there's fifteen for
twelve hundred dollars you can send about you spent, sorry,
excuse me, save one hundred dollars a month and then
you have that money then, so prepare now to pay
yourself now for your future self to not have an
emergency come December next year. But in fact it be like, Okay,

(22:39):
I saved this, I'm ready, here you go, and not
be that big of a deal.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Are points credit cards the real deal? I mean?

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Is that something that we need to consider as a
as a real virtue with those cards? Does do getting
points for spending? Does that help offset some of the
maybe a higher interest rate?

Speaker 8 (23:01):
So if you're it depends on the credit card. I
think the things to look at when you're getting a
new credit card are to look, Okay, if you're getting points,
how does that offset the costs that you're actually if
you're the cost of using your credit card? Because there
are fees things like that, but really it's about balancing.

(23:22):
Is there an upfront fee? Is there an annual fee?
Is the percentage rate that I'm getting in a reflection
of those points. So really it's if you feel like
I really think, if you have the money in your
bank account and your checking account to cover your credit
card bill, then you're spending the right amount. If it's

(23:44):
above that, then you really need to take a step
back and see because those points, well, they may be
good for airline points and to be able to get
some cash back that will never really be offset the
interest rate that you'll get if you do not pay
off your bill every month.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Hey, Kaylee, before I let you go, I have to
ask you this question. Give me the number one highlight
of your Christmas Day? Sorry, what's your What happened on Christmas?
What was the best part of your Christmas?

Speaker 8 (24:16):
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. Let's see. Well, I
am in Wyoming right now and was seeing and so
I got to go and enjoy some snow and I
didn't fall, which was fantastic.

Speaker 9 (24:30):
So Brially was a white Christmas which was fabulous.

Speaker 8 (24:34):
And here with my family and my husband. It's been
a really great time.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Kelly Welsh is a financial education expert for wealth Ed
Financial Education. You can visit their website wealthed dot coeo.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
You can hit her up on Instagram at Kaylee Welsh Coaching. Kaylee,
appreciate your time this morning. A belated Merry Christmas and
a very happy New Year.

Speaker 8 (24:56):
Hey, thanks so much. Scott, have a great one.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
News Talk one O seven point nine w BT.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Scott Hamilton filling in for Bo and Beth closing out
our number one of the.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Day after Christmas used to call it the saddest day
of the year.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Kind of maybe, Yeah, I'm a little bummed. Goetta spend
it with Bernie, Getta spend it with George. So that's
not a terribly terribly awful thing. I'm okay with that.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
Hey, thanks God, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I enjoyed our segment with Kayleie Welsh. And she did
get up early.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
She's out in Wyoming, so it's not even five o'clock
out there, and she got up. She's been on a
skiing trip. I've never I've never been skiing. Have you
ever been skiing, Bernie?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
I have.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Yeah, it's been a while, but uh, I used to
love going when I was when I was a kid, Sugar.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
All I know about skiing is like from those eighties
Key movies. In the South Park episode where they went.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
To the French instead of French fry instead of pizza.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
You're gonna have a bad time.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, I would not. I'm terrified of it, man, I
I'm so scared dirt bikes and skiing, well a dirt
bikes and skiing.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
A Sonny bono. Uh?

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Is that is that the person who who died in
the skiing accidents at it?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah? Yeah, Tree, Yeah, I think that.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
And if that happened in your uh your day and time,
I feel like that kind of made you second guest
going going skiing.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
He was a big starry.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Is that the part he was mister chair Yeah, oh yeah,
he was mister shared.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
He was George George. He was mister Share.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
George and George is walking sauntering over he was about Sonny.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'm here, yes, I know.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, I mean he was a big deal back in
kind of our day a little earlier.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well bigger a senator. Wasn't he a senator or a congressman?

Speaker 10 (27:04):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I think he was a congressman.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
George is the person to hang it up now, George,
you should know I'm looking it up now. Yeah, actor
and politician. He was really short. I do know that,
it was sure, yeah, House of Representatives.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, that's what I thought.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
January fifth, nineteen ninety eight, is when we lost Sunny Bono.
This was not a bingo card this morning to discuss
Sunny Bono.

Speaker 11 (27:28):
Well, you talk about skiing. I did, And now we're
getting he was at Lake Tahoe. Well, now he wasn't
a dude. He was kind of like a bizarro version
of Ike Turner.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Oh yeah, he wasn't he was he and share weren't
you know?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
He wasn't. Yeah? Yeah, well I'm not going to go
that far. They had a love hate relationship. Didn't she
marry Greg Almond also for a few years, like from
the Almond brothers? Yeah? Oh wow, yes, was Marde to
Greg Augh. I did not know that. This is really

(28:04):
going in a different direction to what I have.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
She'd got a boy toy. What were you going to
talk about, Scott?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I was going to talk about the lottery Arkansas. But
I'm kind of I'm kind of liking this share this
share rabbit hole were going down? Now? Yeah, on the
day after Christmas?

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Do you believe in life after love?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Scott? Well, I don't know. I'm still trying to figure
that out, even at my advanced age. You know, if
I could turn back time.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, she had that renaissance there in the late eighties.
It's true, she's had some work done, I believe, yes, yeah, yes, yes, how.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Old is shared that she's like eighty seventy nine? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
she'ld be eighty in May. She's even older than me.
Good for her, George, she's she's going to be eighty. Bro,
I know, and George is thirty five. In my head,
I am. I am absolutely shocked about that. I mean
I knew, I knew, I knew she was older. Yeah,

(29:04):
but I didn't. I didn't realize it.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
And yes, sure enough Chas Bono and Elijah Blue Almond.
Those are her kids. Elijah Blue. Oh your kid, Elijah Blue,
I could have. Yeah. Now she got a boyfriend that's
like I think it. It's thirty. Oh my gosh. I
like how George keeps up at that part. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Good for you, George, Yeah, good for you, George.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
We're gonna get into some serious news next hour. Get
the latest on the Epstein file saga. Adam Camcern of
CNN's he's going to join us on the other side.
It's a Good Morning BT one seven nine WBT.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
This is Good Morning Bat with both Thompson and Beth
croud Man.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
News Talk one O seven to nine WBT, Scott Hamilton
and from Bo and Beth or off doing Bo and
Beth stuff on this day after Christmas.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Got Bernie at George over with the phones and doing
George stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Biggest news story of this month, I think so has
been the release of files and documents pertaining to Jeffrey Epstein.
And now we're hearing from President Trump's administration on December
twenty fourth that there are more, that the process may
take a few more weeks to release more documents, prosecutors

(30:40):
finding more than a million additional documents. Wow, the dossier
on this guy is like nothing we've ever seen. And
we're starting to paint a broader picture, a more nuanced
picture of what was going on. But still nothing really
damning the president so far, even though there have been
photos and mentions of him and things of course that

(31:03):
the White House is saying, is it true. Adam Camgrin
of CNN, he's been covering this story. He's joining us now, Adam.
Good morning, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 9 (31:14):
Good morning Scott, and Christmas to you.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Adam. I appreciate your time today and this story, I
know you've been covering it from three hundred and sixty degrees.
I guess my first question for you is, given everything
that we've learned up to this point, what do you
expect next? I mean, when can we expect more documents
to come to light?

Speaker 9 (31:34):
Well, this is you're right. We have been covering this
for I mean going on a year now, just related
to the Trump administration. It's the kind of saga that
never ends. And from what we've seen this week, we
have at least several more weeks to go here of
new documents coming out. The Justice Department earlier this week
said that it found potentially over a million new documents

(31:56):
that it just had not really tracked earlier. And so,
you know, it looks like over the next few weeks,
prosecutors are going to have to go through those, do
the redactions, release them in batches like we've been seeing
the last batch of thirty thousand documents, a lot to
sift through. And so it's really not kind of no
telling what else is coming out, And the perpetual question

(32:17):
being who's going to be involved implicated there? And are
there any surprises about the president or any other prominent figures.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
How did we get to this point? I mean, thirty
thousand documents is a lot. A million documents is an
absolutely obscene amount. But Jeffrey Epstein's been dead for nearly
six and a half years. How do we get to
the point where the government, specifically the DOJ, is so
unprepared with what it has in its files and the
evidence that it accrued during that case.

Speaker 9 (32:48):
Yeah, I mean this is a Epstein case. I mean
this was a sprawling investigation. A number of times if
you go back, that this guy had contact with federal prosecutors,
state level propecuters for various offenses, obviously resulting in the
convicted sex offenses. But this is stuff that the Justice
Department has had in various stages and areas for a

(33:10):
long time, but are only now collecting because essentially Congress
compelled them to. If you remember last month, there was
a big vote that President Trump for a long time
had resisted. He flipped at the last minute when it
became very clear that that measure was going to pass Congress.
And essentially what it did is it told the Justice Department, hey,
now by law, you have thirty days to collect all

(33:33):
this stuff. Go through do whatever reactions you need to
protect victims and other sense of material, and then put
it all out to the public. And that's not something
we normally see. These kinds of case files almost never
make it completely into public view outside of maybe at
a trial, you know, you get some kind of discovery documents.
So this is just unprecedented in that way. The size

(33:57):
of the investigation is huge, and now we're seeing the
Justice Department have to do this in a really expedited fashion,
and so that's why you're seeing the kind of messy
rollout that we've been seeing the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
We're joined by Adam Camceran seeing in White House Reporter
follow him on x at Adam Canceran, Adam how has
a White House is messaging maybe adjusted or altered or
changed throughout the past few weeks.

Speaker 9 (34:24):
The messaging has been really curious all throughout, I mean,
beginning in January. I mean, if you think back right,
this all started because Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, said
she had the Epstein files on her desk she was
going to release them. All that turned out really not
being true. There was no massive revelation like she had implied,
and so we've kind of gone through where the White

(34:46):
Houses waffled back and forth between whether they think the
Epstein files are important or not, whether they should be
released or not, And just in the last week we
saw kind of that just indecisiveness. So the first batch
of new documents came out last week. They had several
photographs of former President Bill Clinton's obviously a Democrat, and

(35:07):
the White House really race to publicize these photos and say, hey,
everybody should look at this. You know, these are really important.
Nothing that I should say implicated Clinton in any kind
of crime, but still interesting material. And then a few
days later, more material comes out with multiple references to
President Trump, and now on the White House side, suddenly

(35:29):
there's a lot of push to say, you know, actually,
maybe don't believe all this stuff. Some of this stuff
we're not so sure about. That could be fake materials
in here. So just really a lot of inconsistency in
terms of the messaging what's important, what people should be
paying attention to, and if anything, that has been more
damaging to the administration in Trump because it goes straight

(35:49):
to the credibility on the issue.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Have they been able and they being the White House
or anybody in the DOJ really has anyone been able
to disprove in of the documents as absolutely positively one
percent false.

Speaker 9 (36:05):
Well, this is the difficulty. There is one particular document
in here. It's a purported letter from a Jay Epstein
to Larry Nasser, who, if you remember, is also a
really kind of notorious convicted sex offender. That one is
dated twenty nineteen, and it mentions quote our President, And
that came to light in this latest batch. The DOJ

(36:27):
and the FBI quickly said that they had they had
verified that it was a fake. They pointed to a
number of things. One, it was postmark days after Jeffrey
Epstein's death. Secondly, they said the handwriting really didn't match
what they had seen from Jeffrey Epstein in all the
other documents. And so this is the one that's kind

(36:48):
of really grabbed a lot of attention because of the
explicit reference to our president and just the kind of
strange nature of the letter. So that is the one
that people have gone back and forth on. The FBI
the dj have both said they have confirmed it to fake.
We don't have any other evidence to contradict that at
this point, but it still is This still does raise

(37:10):
a lot of questions of how that is still in
the files, why there would be no note saying hey,
this is the fake prosecutors are not relying on it
at all. It's just raised a lot of questions. And
this is the difficulty of going through all these documents
and trying to figure out and piece together whether there
is a clear narrative here.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
And Adam, my last question for you, and it may
be impossible to answer, given how this is an unprecedented
situation and given the mercurial nature of the president. Can
you see this situation with the documents, with the Epstein files.
Can you see it producing sweeping changes in the DOJ
in how we process these kinds of cases going forward,

(37:50):
maybe personnel wise. Can you see Pambondi losing her job?
Can you see new offices created to go over situations
like this that just have so many documents and so
many pieces of evidence? What can you say resulting from this?

Speaker 9 (38:03):
Yeah, Scott, it's a good question. It's really unclear, mainly
because the president can be so unpredictable about these matters.
You know, so far he has been very clear that
he did not want these files out there, that he
did not really support this ongoing investigation and ongoing attention
paid to Jeffrey Epstein, in part because he believes that

(38:23):
it's just overshadowing all the stuff that's going on in
the administration that he's proud of and that he wants
people to be paying attention to instead. I mean, what
I know that we can say for sure is this storyline,
this saga is not going away anytime soon. Obviously, another
million plus documents, that's several more weeks, and then I'm

(38:44):
sure there will be things that will come out that,
you know, people will want to talk about. Whether it
changes the way we're thinking about Jeffrey Epstein or the
President or anybody else who's mentioned in these files, we
can't say for sure, and we're not going to know
until we see all these documents and go through them.
It's certainly something that is going to continue into the
new year, and that is going to be kind of

(39:05):
part of what this administration in particular has to deal
with and has to figure out how to handle well
into next year, well into the present second year in office.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Here he's c A n White House reporter Adam Canceran
follow him on next at Adam Cancran Adam appreciate you
joining us this morning. A belated Merry Christmas and a
happy year anytime.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Scott's same to you.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
This is good morning, bat.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
News Talk one O seven nine WBT Scott Hamilton and
then for Bo and Beth Bernie with some slow jams,
some smooth yacht rock you and Michael McDonald.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Who isn't Who isn't a Michael McDonald's fan? I love it.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
And it's amazing how many songs you'll pull out and
there's Michael McDonald singing in the background like he's just
hanging out in the studio and they step out in
the lobby and they're like, oh, hey man.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
He's influenced a lot of songs.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
I'm a yacht rock guy. I really I enjoy yacht rock.
And that's the phrase for you know that late seventies
early eighties vibe music. And there's a really good it's
very it's very raw, it's very primitive. But there's a
video series on YouTube, the History of yacht Rock, and
they're like little five six seven minute videos, absolutely hilarious, dude,

(40:58):
If you get a chance, check them out.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
The History of Jatrock on YouTube. I will check it out.
It's a fascinating segment with Adam Camceram CNN. This whole
Epstein thing.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
I mean, a million documents out there to be poured over.
How do I mean, how do you even begin to
attack something like that? How do you staff something like that?
Because you just can't hand those things over to anybody.
I mean, you've got to have somebody I presume who's
been vetted, going through them to figure out what has

(41:34):
to be redacted, what doesn't have to be redacted.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
And that's another thing. They had the hack that came out.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Of course, you know there's always somebody putting out a
video on how to do this, how to do that
on TikTok, But there was the hack over the Epstein files,
how to remove the redactions, how to unredact some documents.
I didn't know anything like that was possible, but apparently
you copy it, you copy it, then you paste it

(42:02):
into notepad or something, and then it pulls it out
and you can just read it. How How is the
government not prepared for that? I mean, should they expect
something like that? I mean, are we at that point
in society where we I mean we have to think
that thoroughly that a redacted government document can be revealed.

(42:28):
I'm absolutely shocked. I'm looking at it now. There were
eleven thousand documents released on Monday, and those were a
lot of them were heavily, heavily, heavily redacted, and somebody
just went through and went and cleared it up and
you can read everything there. I haven't gone through it myself,

(42:50):
but I'm wondering exactly. I mean, is it the names
of some victims perhaps, and other sensitive information.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I don't know. If it's important enough to be acted,
it needs to be redacted correctly.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
I regret not bringing up that point with Adam CanCERN
of CNN when he joined us earlier this hour.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I do know this, though, I do know this. If
there are.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
One million documents out there still to be revealed, we've
already got tens of thousands of documents, letters, memos, investigation notes, photographs,
what have you.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
If at the end of all this.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Somebody is not either exonerated or in big trouble, I
will be shocked.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
We can't be like we are right now where it is.
Are were they involved, were they not involved? How deep
in were they were they in? At all? That can't happen.
The status quo can't continue.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
There's just too much, too much stuff out there, surely
to goodness that it's going to take the path one
way or the other. Either some people were involved, and
I'm talking specifically, how about President Trump, about President Clinton,
Bill Gates, all these other celebrities, or they weren't involved,
they were going to be exonerated.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
But this middle ground, I.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Don't see how they could have performed this kind of
due diligence, executed this kind of investigation to this depth
where they have so much material that it can't implicate
or exonerate these people.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I hope I'm making my point.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Because otherwise what were they doing?

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I mean, why are they even throwing this stuff out there?
Because in the court of public opinion is damning a
lot of these people who might be innocent. The whole deal'
is just disturbing.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
And then Maxwell giselle, Maxwell just laying Maxwell, what's going
to happen for her now she's fed? The more stuff
that comes out, is her role going to be proved
to be even more significant, less significant? Just so many questions,
and of course the biggest question of all I have

(45:03):
is why this stuff hasn't come out before. Why didn't
the previous administration release these documents? Why didn't the previous
administration say, hey, here's everything we have. Because you have
to think, You have to think that if they had
the goods on some specific people, and everybody knows who
I'm referencing, that they would have put it out there.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Why didn't they?

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Especially as the election got closer we talk about what
is it the October surprises he said in October and
November October surprises right before elections. You would have thought
that that would have been time for a news dump
if if there was some seriously damning stuff in this,
or maybe there's some stuff for people on both sides.

(45:49):
They're protecting people on both sides. I'm not going to
get into conspiracy theories here. I'm not going to put
on a tenfoil hat, but anything is plausible at this point.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
And I have to think two months from now, four
months from now, perhaps six months, are a year from now,
as these things continue to come out and were able
to paint a broader picture, that there are going to
be some people who are going to be really, really worried.
I'll leave it at that. That's my last take on

(46:19):
that whole situation, because it has dominated the New Cycle
for months and has really dominated the New Cycle this
month when they began putting out the documents and people
are coming over them.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
This is Good Morning BT.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
News Talk, one of seven to nine WBT. Scott Hamilton
filling in for Bow, filling in for Beth. Bernie's here,
George's here.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Everything is good with the world.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Yeah, it's a Friday, day after Christmas, December twenty sixth.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Do you like Christmas on a Thursday? Bernie, I'd prefer
it on a Friday. What'd you prefer?

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Why don't go to work a long weekend. It's not
That's not what it's about, though. It's about It's about
other stuff. It's about being a good person, the reason
for the season.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Well, no, I'm giving you, you know, I'm giving you
this authority where you can say, you know what I
want it to be on this day.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I kind of dig it on a Friday. The more
I think about, I would like.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
It on a Friday or a Saturday would be nice,
you know.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Saturday, Christmas Eve on a Friday. E No, it'd be nice.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
You don't have the potus heads his way that'll be
the you know, because this year, every day, I guess
it depends. Yeah, see, I think the day after Christmas,
I don't know. I mean people got to go to work,
can't because I mean eventually you got to go back
to work. Oh yeah, the day day after the super Bowl, Yes,

(48:02):
is one that I have.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Well, they just need to move the super Bowl to
a Saturday. Let's just do that. I agree.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
We don't need to make it a holiday, don't need
any more holidays for the super Bowl. Just you know,
make it on a Saturday or Friday. You know, if
they want to start it at nine o'clock at night,
make it on a Friday. Well, I think it's because
of the by the time. The time is because of advertising.
Well in the West Coast day the people on the
West Coast they cater.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Well I'm not gonna say they cater, but yeah, they
try to accommodate them. But but the Sunday is because
of the NFL's identity of being a Sunday sport and
all this, even though it's creeping into other sports or
other days.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, but I mean I know it's super
Bowl Sunday, but just rebrand super Bowl Saturday.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Let's do that. I'm not I don't hate it. Let's
do it. I don't hate it.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
NFL playing on Christmas now, already had Thanksgiving, NBA trying
to maintain a foothold on Christmas Day. Here was a
good game yesterday, Denver beat Minnesota one forty two thirty
eight and overtime. My biggest takeaway though, Rudy Gobert. Rudy

(49:12):
Gobert nine points, twelve rebounds, pretty pedestrian game.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Solid, good but not great. But he did a good
thing recently and it was in the news and it.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Caught my attention, and I really thought it was worth
on this day after Christmas, putting it out there and
giving Rudy Gobert his props. He finds out, and you'll
you'll learn in a moment, how he found out that
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then he gave me, these and it's nice to have
this casual shoes. Too i'm super grateful for.

Speaker 14 (52:13):
HIM i threw a pair Of Air Forces White Air.

Speaker 7 (52:15):
Forces we Asked rudy about that special delivery After tuesday's
game and shared it With.

Speaker 14 (52:20):
HARRISON i was happy to put together out of the
box and then choose some shoes for him to be
able to.

Speaker 8 (52:25):
Too.

Speaker 14 (52:25):
Well not too long, AGO i was a, kid big
fit and not be able to find shoes that could fit.
Me so WHEN i was, Eighteen Alexey adrinka that was
in THE nba at that, time gave away back full of,
clothes some couple of, shoes AND i remember how it
changed my, life a big.

Speaker 7 (52:40):
MOMENT i got every pair Of he's now paid.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Forward he's the Reason.

Speaker 15 (52:45):
I'm able to have shoes to play. Like he's been
the Reason i've been able to play. BASKETBALL i Just
i'm just so.

Speaker 7 (52:50):
Thankful it turns Out rudy already knows thanks to a certain,
CLIP i had a pair of shoes for the every
day of the week posted. Online WHEN i saw the.

Speaker 14 (52:57):
VIDEO i was really happy that you see to see that,
guy you know that's size twenty. Shoes it made me
happy and it made my.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
Day big.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
Feelings he's old with you coming full.

Speaker 15 (53:06):
CIRCLE i didn't know my reaction was going to be that,
publicized but it feels really cool that he saw it.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
Though it just FEELS i feel.

Speaker 12 (53:19):
Blast actually, yeah.

Speaker 7 (53:23):
And the, Fans rudy and the, team they don't publicize,
it but one grateful, Employee Jody, duncan shared it with.
Us how cool is?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
That that is?

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Cool that's an absolutely fantastic story happening up In. Minneapolis
and again WHEN i Thank ka R e eleven In
minneapolis for putting that package out.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
There SO i was twenty. SHOE i, MEAN i can't
wrap my mind around that being being. Fifteen he's fifteen years.
Old but let's think of it on a human.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Level forget about THE nba, superstar forget about you, know
basketball and all.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
THAT i, mean this, kid this kid didn't have.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Shoes he didn't have, shoes he couldn't his shoes, broke
he did not have, shoes And Rudy gobert steps, up
AND i know it's nothing to.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Him he's got millions and millions of. Dollars he's step for.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Life presumably if he's smart with his money and sending
a few dozen pairs of shoes to some stranger monetarily
isn't a big.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Deal but just the gesture of it that he took
the time because he connected with that kid on a.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Level, yeah he's got a fan for like he's got
a fan of. Me i'm a fan of his. NOW
i didn't know really a whole lot About Rudy. GOBERT
i know About Rudy gobert now that's. IT i, MEAN
i like. Him and you, know we hear stories About
shaq doing things like this all the.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Time oh, Yeah. Shack there's some crazy good stories About shack.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Out did you ever hear the one about when he
was in the jewelry store and this guy's picking out
an engagement ring and he And shaq hears him talking
and all, this and Suddenly shack just buys everything for
him like it has it, upgraded and.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
And just he just hooked the guy. UP i have
not heard that. One, yeah that's. Incredible And i'll tell you,
who And i'll tell you who gets a bad rap
because he is, loud he is. Bombastic he's all over the.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Place pat McAfee with his kicking contest During College Game.
Day that's his, money, Man AND i know he could
write a lot of, it probably almost all of it
off on his. Taxes but still he's giving these kids
some tremendous opportunities and there's.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Always chances whenever they miss a. Kick like it's it's
a cool added.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
Effect to College Game. DAY i think it's pretty.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Neat it.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Is and in the last episode Of College Game, day
he's talking about how this could be the final time
for the kick and all this and all, that and
you know people are, Speculating, well what does it?

Speaker 2 (55:46):
MEAN i don't.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Know he even says that it's a day to day
proposition because a he has a short attention, span but
b his overlords AT espn are pretty, fickle especially when
it comes to. Him, WELL i think it is a
lot of good people used to tell AND i think
there are more guys out there that do good than
bad than we realize because we don't hear about. It,
again going back To Rudy Broke gobert giving fifty dollars

(56:09):
to all the people that work at the.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Arena on the on the down, low it's an awesome, deal,
man good On Rudy.

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There we've Got Shelby swanson of The Raleigh news And
observer joining us next. Hour she Covers North Carolina. Athletics
i'm gonna get into The Smith, center The Dean, Dome
it's gonna happen to. It it's forty years. Old are
they gonna pump some money in and fix it, up

(57:15):
spruce it, up get it up to modern specs or
are they going to build a different, facility maybe something
off campus In Chapel.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Hill some people were riled up about. That when you leave, campus,
man it becomes a different. Dynamic it, does it changes.
Things it ASKS Nc state about. That it's kind of.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Funny kentucky has tried to do something like, that to
be on campus for a long time and that they
Still reparriena in middle Of.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
Lexington state needs to go back To. Reynolds that's what
they need to.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Do reynolds is, cool. Dude you ever been In.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Reynolds oh, yeah it's the great atmosphere for the.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
Fans much smaller Than loan And Lenovo, center.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Still stained with cigarette smoke you go. In i've heard
the stories from some of the older.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Journalists they talk about covering games there and how it
would be just a constant haze of cigarette smoke over
top of the playing surface and the bleachers and press
row and all.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
That you, know a different, era good old. Days, yeah,
yeah the good old. Days my men were, men you,
know back when men were, men and they well they wore.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Suit you. Know you look at those photos and you
see them they're wearing suits and hats and. Ties oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
You, know everybody's got their lucky strikes and all. That
i'm not glorifying. It i'm just saying that's how it,
was just a different.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Age you watch these Ken burns documentaries and you look
in the stands and people were dressed up to go
to baseball.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Games the, thought the thought of wearing a jacket and
a tie to go to a baseball game makes me so,
uncomfortable because we already discussed my disdain for having a
lot of clothing, on but the thought of sitting out
in the bleachers in a wool suit in a fedora
just gives me the he b gbis. MAN i like

(59:08):
freedom of, movement you know What i'm. Saying if it
were up to, ME i would wear like a moo moo.
Everywhere we should Have moomo. Day what would the program
director think of that? Bit George ware's MOOMOOM i can't
confirm it to Not.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Georgia state.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Anyway Shelby swanson's going to join us next hour and
we'll find out what's going on the latest with The Smith.
CENTER uh mentioned it earlier in Passing it deserves being mentioned.
Again This powerball, winner we don't know who they, are
but their lives are about to be.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Changed the family trees forever. Altered.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Hopefully somebody On Christmas eve at A MURPHY usa gas
station in Cabin art And saw that's northeast Of Little,
rock had a has a. Ticket they bought a ticket
that they can cash in for one point eight one
seven billion with A b dollars that's stupid. Money and

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the cash out option where if if you want all
you know about one lump sum eight hundred and thirty
four point nine, million it's the second LARGEST us lottery jackpot. Ever,
EVER i wouldn't even know how to. RESPOND i, hope
first of, all this person knows they, won because the
thought of them buying the ticket then discarding it just

(01:00:39):
it makes me sick to my. Stomach And i'm going
to hope that they know they, won And i'm hoping
that they're doing everything they can to get their ducks
in a row before they come.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Forward they're performing their due. Diligence they've got the ticket
locked securely away. One, two they've sought out a good
legal counsel to help shepherd them through this. Process in,
THREE i hope they keep their heads about them as
they go through. It you always hear these horror stories

(01:01:09):
about lottery winners and how their lives are flipped upside.
Down and you know the guy In West virginia that won,
twice he had nothing but despair after winning the, lottery
and he was already a millionaire before. That so whoever won,
THIS i, HOPE i hope they keep their wits about
him and things things worked. OUT i saw somebody tweeted

(01:01:31):
out That John calipari the basketball And arkansas has already
tracked them. Down get some Ni owe money for The
razorbacks basketball. Team it's a, joke but only have a.
Joke Shelby, Swatson Raleigh. News an observer joining his son
on the other, side going to break down what's happening
at The Smith. Center you're listening TO wbt on one

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N c twelve and twelve and one on this. Season
And i'm a full, disclosure full. Disclosure i'm AN Ap
top twenty five basketball. VOTER i did not Have North
carolina in my Preseason top twenty. FIVE i felt there
were a lot of questions about the. ROSTER i wanted
to see What youbert was putting, together and he's put
together a pretty good. Roster only lost was The Michigan

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state last. Month Michigan State's Michigan state's good basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Team so they're having to they're probably feeling they have
to be feeling very bullish about things In Chapel.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Hill how they're feeling about The Dean. Dome, however The DEAN.
E Smith, center, well that's a different. Story people were
split over the future of that, facility over the future
of Where North carolina will actually play basketball going. Forward
will it be on, campus will it be off. Campus

(01:03:51):
we're going to explore those questions and more as we
go over to our phone. Lines we Got Shelby swanson
of The Raleigh news And observer joining. Us, shelby good,
Morning thanks for joining.

Speaker 10 (01:04:00):
Us, hey good, morning thanks so much for having.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
ME i appreciate you coming, On. Shelby, shelby what's going
to happen to The Dean? Dome what are you? Hearing, yeah,
well we.

Speaker 10 (01:04:11):
Really don't know at at this, point BUT i think,
certainly at least to, me all signs point to moving
off campus. LIKELY i just think that given the state
of the, facility especially kind of THE i, MEAN i,
mean the inability really to add some of these premium

(01:04:32):
amenities you think about box, seats things like, that and
also just the the cost of you, know renovating. ALONE
i think the for for the roof to renovate, THAT i,
mean the estimate has been put at up to you,

(01:04:53):
know one hundred million dollars right just to renovate the.
Roof and so then when you get talking, too when
you get into numbers.

Speaker 9 (01:04:59):
Like, that you know it makes more.

Speaker 10 (01:05:01):
Sense, okay we're gonna go ahead and renovate. It maybe you,
know we look to move it of it off. CAMPUS
i think another thing that's really important to keep in
mind is also the just the, need especially in today's
college sports, landscape increasingly to generate as much revenue as.
Possible you, know we're in the post house settlements, era you,

(01:05:25):
know the revshare, era and so if you, want you,
know your team to compete with the, best if you
want to be able to boast one of the most
expensive or continue rather to boast one of the most
expensive rosters in the. Nation then you need to drive
revenue in all in all possible, ways and SO i
think that's moving off campus probably presents the best chance of.

(01:05:47):
That and, again has a decision been. Made, No, actually
if you talk to a lot of, stakeholders they're kind
of taking a pause after having held a series of stakeholder.
Meetings and these are things that you, Know i've reported
about The news And. Observer he's been reported. Elsewhere BUT
i would think that's all signs and all kind of

(01:06:09):
logic points to moving off campus to This Carolina north.
Location so for folks In Chapel hill, area they know
that as the now Defunct Horse Williams airport Well.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Shelby do we have any sense, though of a of
a timeline for when a decision will be?

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Reached is there a? Deadline because to your, point this
facility AND i was shocked WHEN i realized it AND
i read, It and you're outstanding working The raleigh in
AND o.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
It's forty years. OLD i can't believe The Smith center
is forty years. Old that blows my little.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Mind and every day that they put back kick the
can down the road to decide the future is another
day that that thing's going to, age, RIGHT.

Speaker 10 (01:06:50):
I, mean you're one percent correct. THERE i don't think
there's really a clear. Timeline it's something that's been you,
know kicked down the road for a while and quite,
HONESTLY i think just a bit too too. Long AND
i mean part of, that you, know it's it's a
difficult it's a difficult, decision. Right you, know a lot

(01:07:11):
of people have so many, memories, emotions and also you,
know money kind of seating tied up in The Smith.
Center BUT i would say at least talking to, stakeholders
so you, Know Chancell, Lee robert, stuff like Director Bubba,
cunningham they said over the summer and as recently as In,

(01:07:33):
august like, okay we're hoping to have a decision by
the end of the. Year obviously we're approaching the end
of the.

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
Year.

Speaker 10 (01:07:39):
Now What i'm hearing is that Even january would be too.
Early you, know we're looking at maybe you, know three
to four months kind of really to mid you, know
twenty twenty, six and and even, then you, know that's
that's nothing that's been. DEFINITIVE i think likely what you're

(01:08:00):
going to. See and, again this is just this is
based on partially by, reporting partially just kind of a
common sense of my own. INTUITION i think you're probably
going to see an announcement made early next year that
they are developing This Carolina north property and and that's
going to be developed. Regardless, again this is a pretty

(01:08:21):
decent parcel of land north of, campus and it's part
of the long term vision of the university as it's
looking to expand they're going to start welcoming in larger
and larger classes in the incoming. Years and that, again
That Carolina north property is going to be developed. Regardless
and THEN i think a few months after that you

(01:08:43):
might you might see an announcement about the whereabouts The Smith.
Center things could could, change but but don't be shocked
if you know a little bit later done a lot
you hear, that you Know Smith center is going to
be going to be placed there as.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Well joined By Shelby Swanson Roley news an. Observer follow
her On twitter slash x At Shelby Swanson shelby help
me understand some of the math. HERE i know that
they're missing revenue opportunities by not having all the bells
and whistles of more modern, Facilities but how much of

(01:09:19):
a whole do you do you or do you have
any sense of how much of a hole there is
with regards to?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Upkeep how bad is the facility?

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Physically you mentioned the, ruth but are there any other
parts of the structure that you're aware of that's either
a in need of immediate repairs OR b is costing
them money to.

Speaker 10 (01:09:38):
Maintain, yeah SO i mean all are good. POINTS i
think one is just again the kind of the inability
and at least this is just what you Know stak
the stickholders have told. Me but it's going to be
really difficult to renovate the seating and add any sort
of premium seating or you, know kind of like the

(01:10:01):
luxury box. Suite SO i mean that's already money that
you're missing out on, obviously you know the roof and
the renovations near, there that's gonna be you, know tens
of millions of. Dollars another thing that's kind of important
to keep in mind too is what's actually underneath the.
STADIUM a lot of these stadiums kind of have a

(01:10:23):
and again i'm there are any folks that work for you,
know architectural design firms here they might get a little.
Fluss i'm not going to get the exact terminology, correct
BUT i mean a lot of stadiums there's gonna be
a circular kind of, level you, know beneath everything almost
you can think of like a, basement, right and a

(01:10:45):
lot of stadiums ARE i guess arenas more is the
more aptward here there's gonna be a full circle. Underneath
and that's really important for you, know kind of event
hosting for you and, see it's like a space where
there's going to be like a practice gem things like.
That well in The Dedon, dome you know where it

(01:11:06):
currently sits that again quote unquote basement, level it's only
about a half. Circle and so because of, that you,
know the the team's practice gem is you, know just
packed in, there really you, know tiny for just one
of a modern team. NEEDS i think that's one of the. Limitations,

(01:11:30):
again it's kind of the that that basin, level if you,
Will the renovations needed to the, bathrooms the, concourse the
roof long, overdue and then when you look into kind
of some of the limits and the ceiling right of
of what this current building can, contain and kind of
an inability to really easily add some of those premium.

(01:11:54):
Amenuties that starts to make more and more. Sense at
least a lot of folks would argue to go ahead.

Speaker 9 (01:12:01):
And move off.

Speaker 10 (01:12:02):
Campus and now that being, said you, KNOW i have
a lot of former players talk to me and, say you, know,
hey you know everything you're saying that they they can't do.
Here you, know the premium, seatings a mixed use kind
of entertainment district around, like you, know we can we
can do that around THE Cis.

Speaker 9 (01:12:19):
Center and you, know.

Speaker 10 (01:12:21):
So i'm Not i'm not here saying definitively you, know
those things.

Speaker 9 (01:12:25):
Are impossible in the current.

Speaker 10 (01:12:28):
Location BUT i think it's highly, unlikely especially when you
look at the and this has lots to do with
the Smith center, itself the kind of the location where
it is south the UNC's. CAMPUS i mean that that's
an area THAT i would assume THE unc hospital, system
which is right, nearby is gonna as it wants to

(01:12:48):
look to expand you might run into more kind of
issues there with with The Smiths center's. Location so hopefully
that hopefully that answers the. Question BUT i think those
are some of the kind of important factors to maybe
keep in mind.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
With, This, no you, didn't and you set me up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Perfectly from my last, Point i'm wondering how the dividing
lines on this are set up because obviously the people
that monitor the finances bub punning, him specifically the athletic.
Director i'm sure he's one hundred percent behind moving off.
Campus and it sounds to me like the former players
are the ones wanting to just upgrade and keep what they.

(01:13:30):
Have but can you expand upon, that who else has
a vested interest in, this either moving or staying where it?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Is, YEAH i.

Speaker 10 (01:13:39):
MEAN i think it really important thing to keep in
mind with this, too is LIKE i think it's a
lot of folks that you, know they all want what's
best for the athletic department moving, forward what's best For
carolina baskepbhat moving, forward and there's just a lot of
different opinions on how exactly to get, there, Right SO

(01:14:01):
i would say, that and again just to be really,
clear nobody you know within the athletic department has even
claiming to have made you, know a final decision on.
This but back to a previous, POINT i will say
that you, Know Bubba, cunningham this this next summer, actually you,
know he's going to transition into this new advisory Role Steve,

(01:14:22):
newmark the incoming ad will be taking. Over one of
the things that specifically stipulated In Bubba cunningham's contract is to,
continue you, know the development of special projects Like Carolina, north,
Right like this is explicitly in his. Contract and again
it does not say explicitly his contract like to develop
a new basketball Arena Carolina. Nors i'm just saying like,

(01:14:43):
regardless like he's going to be very involved in developing this. Property,
again it just this a special project for the university
and kind of its expansion moving. FORWARD i would say
that a lot a lot of former players obviously are
more you, know in favor of uh The Smith center
staying where it. Is and AGAIN i can't say that,

(01:15:05):
definitively like you, know all players wanted, to you, know say,
that but the overwhelming majority of folks That i've talked,
too that's kind of a sentiment THAT i. Get and
it makes, sense right because you just think about the
nostalgia the memories. There this is very much kind of
thought of. THAT i, mean it is right like the
house That.

Speaker 9 (01:15:25):
Dean built and you.

Speaker 10 (01:15:27):
Know Roy Williams courts is right, there and a lot
of guys they they either have memories of playing there
or you, know again playing In carmichael for Coach. Smith
this is An Eenie Smith center that there's just a
lot of nostalgia and emotion tied up. There and THEN
i would say it's kind of interesting with the you

(01:15:47):
know you look at like an alumni donor, BASIS i
would say it's an it's a. SPLIT i think you
have a lot of folks that kind of on that,
side maybe like the booster kind of realm that really
understands a lot of the the pros right that that
moving off campus, has especially from like a revenue generation.
Standpoint but there are a lot of folks too that you,

(01:16:10):
know paid a decent amount of money for these you,
know these, seats these reserved kind of season ticket, holders you,
know these seats that have now been passed, down you,
know generation and, generation AND i think there's a concern
that you, know you move to a new, center a new,
location and you're not going to be able to afford you,

(01:16:32):
know those kind of reserved seats that you had that
you probably purchased when they were a whole heck of a,
lot you, know cheaper.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Well, Welcome welcome to college athletics at twenty twenty. Five
that's just how it. Is She's Shelby swanson of The
Raleigh news And. Observer you can follow her On twitter
slash x At Shelby. Swanson, shelby you have covered this
thing upside down all. Around you've done an excellent. JOB
i can't wait to see what else you find. Next
thanks for joining, us sported, appreciate thank.

Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
You this Is Good Morning Beat.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Dou's talk ONE o seven NINE Fmwb Scott hamilton filling
in For bo And. Beth it's a really interesting talk
we had With Shelby swans last Segment Riley news An
observer regarding the future of The Smith center At Chapel,
hill and it's it's reached that point where you know

(01:17:37):
it used to. Be oh, man this place is. Nice
this is a great. Place you, know you've got plenty of,
seats you know all. That, no it's got to be
more than.

Speaker 6 (01:17:44):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Now you have to have some kind of really premium.
Experience EVEN i, mean The Georgia dome is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Gone. Dude The Georgia dome wasn't that old and it's totally,
gone and it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Alone we're seeing it more and. More Turner. Field Turner
field In, atlanta it wasn't that. Old but these, venues,
though are being replaced for more upscale. Venues and it's
kind of similar to the dilemma In charlotte With bank
Of America.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Stadium it's great to be. Downtown the location is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
Fantastic, man you feel you, know you feel like it's
really the city's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Team you get.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
It but as it can they continue to renovate the
stadium and polish it and, this that and the, other there's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Going to come a point where they can only do
so much with the.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Structure as things continue to evolve in. Advance what happens,
Then it's been mentioned where do they? Go they're going
to build a new, stadium temper, mens you're putting a
dome on that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
One would he do? IT i don't know anything's possible
with that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Guy but at some point you have to, Say, okay
we're missing out ON x millions of, dollars so we
need to consider these. Options that's what's happening with The Smith.
Center they're going to have to figure, Out, okay we
need to really be able to have a facility that
maximizes our opportunities to bring in, revenue more luxury boxes
and so.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Forth, yeah The Smith center's. Cold it's, historical but we
got to have money to pay for these. Rosters. Now
just where we Are College athletics in twenty twenty, five.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Making a final, lap third. Hour good MORNING, Bt, Scott
hamilton and From bo And. Beth we've Got, bernie we Got.
George we're working a lot of people aren't working. TODAY
a lot of people are working. Today december twenty sixth
feels like a. Holiday it's officially a, holiday at least

(01:19:55):
not in this part of the. WORLD a lot of
officers are, empty families are still in, town and, well
a lot of employers don't expect much work to get
done when it falls on A friday like it did this.
Year kind of To bernie's point of Wanting december twenty
sixth to be on A, SATURDAY i guess you Want

(01:20:17):
christmas On. Friday So december twenty sixth for you would
always be A, saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Sure Or sunday Or. Sunday you become a day of.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
Rest, well The president issuing A tipperary order making today
a holiday for federal. Employees President trump Declared Christmas eve
And today federal holidays for this. Year, now the rest
of us are still at the mercy of our. Workplaces.
Goodwill do you get today off or did you? Not

(01:20:46):
there are people out working With christmas on A. Thursday
there are a lot of folks going to have a long,
Weekend so good on. Them good on, Them and maybe
it gives them an opportunity to recover from the. Holiday
maybe go ahead and take Their christmas lights. DOWN i doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
It other than, that the rest of us are, WORKING.

Speaker 6 (01:21:08):
I kind.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
OF i, mean it's in order for it to be a, Holiday,
bernie it's going to take a lot of rigmar. ROW
i mean for today to be a holiday in, perpetuity
you have to have legislation passed Through congress and then
sign themto.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
A law By.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Trump and the last time this was done was twenty
twenty one When juneteenth was added to the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
Calendar that was under The biden administration did. That and
it's not. UNUSUAL i, mean we've had this happen.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Before Where december twenty, sixth you, know The president has,
said everybody set this one, out all the throw. Employees
President obama did it back in twenty, fourteen And trump
has done it before as. Well he did it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
In twenty, nineteen he did it in twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Twenty but as it stands right, now Only Christmas day
a federally reckoned as, holidays so.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Restybus are. Working Sorry, Burne sorry, man.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
That's, okay it's.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
OKAY i love being here with, everybody all the people,
here Just, George george And jeff And, George Jeff, Makinson,
Yeah Jeff atkinson down.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
All it's just a just a great group of people,
here the people that are here. Today Jeff atkinson's in
there doing, crunches push ups and. Stuff he's an iron.
Man Jeff adkinson is an iron. Man he is an iron.
MAN i would never cross. HIM i would have to do it.
Regardless he's just such a phenomenal human. Being but it does.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
Great his arms make you think twice about.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
It absolutely a strong. Man he's, jacked that's for, Sure
Jeff Jeff atkinson so so so during this, segment we've
Complimented george for smelling like sandal.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Wood we've Complimented Jeff atkinson's outstanding. Physique boomer has great. Hair,
Yes bloomber has really good. Hair his hair is. PHENOMENAL
i would like to have a head of. Hair you're
no slatch. Yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Thanks, Yeah, well hopefully it stays that way for a.
While we'll. SEE i.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
And my dad's usually had that shaved head for a,
while like not like a like bald, shaved but like
just a buzz. Cut he's he's been buzz cut guy
for like twenty. YEARS i feel, like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Would you go shaved?

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
HEAD i used to buzz my head all the time
WHEN i was a, kid but NOW i just kind
of just kind of let it, grow get a cut
every now and. AGAIN i always wear a hat, though
so it doesn't really. Matter, honestly you do always Wear,
Yeah i'm always wearing a hat backwards, Hat.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
SCOTT i wear a visor BECAUSE i have. Hair you
gotta show me or not wear. Advisors, NOW i will
tell you that because you are what thirty four?

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Now? Right, yes? Sir do you wear your hat? Backwards? Oh, yeah, yeah,
ABSOLUTELY i. DO i.

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
KNOW i know you're uh your deal with people with
backwards hats, There. SCOTT i know after thirty years, old
you can't wear a backwards hat after thirty, Men i'm
Breaking i'm all the. RULES i have a book bag
too THAT i bring into. WORK i don't have a
briefcase or. Anything i'm still having a. Backpack, oh book, bag.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Backpack same.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Thing, say if you are, listen if you're over thirty
and you wear your hat, backwards you better be hammering
nails or maybe riding a motorcycle. Something but other than,
that your hat's turned. Away MAYBE i do have a. Motorcycle,
well but you got to be on the. Motorcycle if you're,
not like literally positioned on the, bike your hat has
to be turned around.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Properly otherwise just it's not a good. Look.

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
Dude well that's, Fine, scott you can.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Keep don't wear the jeans to be dazzled back. Pockets oh,
WELL i never do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
That this is the.

Speaker 5 (01:24:36):
Backwards that's the only thing you got me.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
On don't wear the the eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Dollars t shirts with the tribal. Art that's a size too.

Speaker 5 (01:24:43):
Small, medium not doing, that not doing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
That. Created this is all great, Advice.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Scott these are life lessons that every man should. Follow
i've told my son these lessons. Repeatedly i'm, like, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Don't be that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:57):
Guy how is he doing don't be that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Guy he's doing well. Life he's twenty, three he's figuring it.
Out he can still wear his hat.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
Backwards, okay so he hasn't reached that threshold.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Yet he.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Has i'm just preparing him for when that time. Comes,
well if you follow these Roles i'm. TRYING i don't
want him to make the MISTAKES i did BECAUSE i
might or might not have wore hats backwards over to
age of. Thirty that's, okay we still love you, Here scot's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Fine that's The christmas spirit.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Talking we've got aviation Expert Matt tretscott joining us next.
Hour we're gonna go over that crash that KILLED nascar
Starred Greg biffle and his family up In states full
earlier this. Month go over the. Report he's seen a
few things and he thinks he might have a better

(01:25:46):
idea of what. Happened federal investigators are still pouring over
the scene of that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Crash you looking at. That he'll be joining us about
twenty after the, hour and we'll continue to look back
on the. Holiday Another christmas into, Books another hour into.
Books you're listening TO wbt ONE o seven point.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Nine from one seven point nine F m W Bt
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Speaker 6 (01:26:14):
Talk this Is Good Morning bet with Bo thompson And Beth.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Troutman rolling into the final. Hour Good MORNING, Bt Scott
hamilton and From. Boatwin beth here on ONE o seven.

(01:26:39):
Nine bernie's, Here george is. Here we've Got jeff in the,
Newsroom boomer doing, traffic so everybody's working, here a lot
of other folks having the day. Off another busy travel.
Day that's part of a especially busy travel. Season twenty

(01:27:00):
two point four million people expected to travel Between december
tenth In New Year's. Day that's, uh that's a lot
of folks getting around two point two percent increase from last.
Year and WHEN i Say i'm talking about people going
at least fifty miles from their.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Home most of those will be. Driving about one hundred
and ten.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
Million people will hit the, road or have hit the,
road or are hitting the road as we. Speak in
a record eight million folks getting on. Airplanes so people
getting out in about and moving. Around and here here's what's. Encouraging.
Though i'm looking at Flight aware now THAT i did

(01:27:45):
it earlier in the program And i've been monitoring. It
there are only and Maybe i'm Maybe i'm reading this.
INCORRECTLY i Think i'm reading it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Right there are only twenty six flight cancelations so far
today on only eighty nine. Delays that is.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Incredible two delayed flights At Charlotte douglas. TWO i feel
Like i'm reading this, wrong BUT i do not THINK i.
Am so things are going smoothly with regards to travel
on the highways and up in the, air and that's,
encouraging feeling good about that because today is one of

(01:28:22):
those days where we're sad to see the holidays, go
but we've got to start resetting and getting back to.
Normal and it's happening on A, friday which is, weird
but it is what it. Is and federal employees not
having to work, today the rest of, us, though having
to go out to our.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
JOBS i just know THAT i wouldn't want to be
on the highway.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
TODAY i KNOW i wouldn't want to be traveling.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Just too many, people, man too many, People.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
AND i travel a lot anyhow for my regular job
and definitely don't want to get out stuck into holiday.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Traffic one hundred and twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
TWO i, mean that's a lot of people moving going,
somewhere and it's so much easier now than it used to.
BE i mean thinking about how quickly people will hop
into a car now and drive. Somewhere AND i know
the gas. Prices looking with, that we've got some low gas.
Prices national average gas prices dropped significantly over the past few,
months making driving more. Affordable and coming out of the,

(01:29:26):
pandemic you, know it's still a post pandemic. World people
are eager to. Travel there's an increased demand for domestic
and international. TRIPS i have people who are broad right,
now FRIENDS i know who are. Abroad people aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Hesitant to get up and, move especially during the holiday.
SEASON i think though back to that awful crash On december,
eighteenth that jet Crash Greig, Biffle he and his, family
some other people were headed To florida and the plane went,
down killed everybody on. Board it was just just.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Jarring just short of his birthday. Too Greg bivile's birthday
was just a few days after. That celebration of life
has been, planned no dat anounced. Yet we're still waiting
to hear from. That and there's still so many questions
regarding that. Crash about five minutes after, takeoff they turned

(01:30:24):
around and was heading back to the. Airport something was.
Wrong nobody. KNOWS i haven't announced yet what's going. ON
a preliminary report should be done in about thirty, days
but the complete investigation year and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Figure out exactly what went, wrong and they all have.
To they got a lot to comb.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
Through they got the voice, recorder but the other data.
Boxes you, know that jet wasn't required to have, anything
so they're going through. That they're looking at the flight,
plans and then they have all the debris scattered on
a fifteen hundred foot. Runway to have to catalog all,

(01:31:03):
that it's just a lot talk to, witnesses take witness,
statements get witness, videos and try to just piece. TOGETHER i,
mean they still haven't even announced if they know who
was piloting the. AIRCRAFT i do believe there were three
people on that, flight Including Greg biffle who had pilot's.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Licenses we don't know who was at the, wheel who
was at the, Controls.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
And it's so, Heartbreaking well it's heartbreaking, anyhow but it
becomes even more excruciating when you hear these experts talk
about how close they were to making a safe landing
a safe emergency, landing and the difference between safely returning

(01:31:48):
an absolute tragedy was just wayfer. Thin then you hear
about the text message that somebody on the. Plane all
indications are it Was Greg biffle's wife sending a message
TO i believe her mother saying We're it's just it's
just sat on so many, levels his children on that.

(01:32:10):
Flight And i've spoken to several people in The nasker
community who knew.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Him on a on an intimate, level and they're. Devastated they're,
devastated not only because they've lost a compadre on the,
racetrack but a. Humanitarian all the good work he did
with the folks in the days and the weeks and
the months After Hurricane, helene coming to the, forefront doing
it of his own, volition of his own, time with

(01:32:37):
his own, resources and then to have something like this,
happen just you, know it's it's it's an.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Affirmation that we're not promised, anything that every day is a, gift.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
And that, anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Even high level, athlete is so object to the dangers
of life of the world and can have it AND
i can have it pulled out from under them neath
them in a. Heartbeat but, again we still don't know
exactly what. Happened we're going to dive deeper into that

(01:33:17):
in our next. Segment we got aviation Expert Max Max.
Trescott he's going to join, us and he's looked over
the report several and he actually sent me a message
last night saying he thinks he has some some, insight
maybe a better understanding of what might or might not have.
Transpired he'll share that with.

Speaker 6 (01:33:33):
Us this Is Good MORNING Bet.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
News talk ONE o seven NINE. Fmwbt Scott hamilton in
For bo And. Beth and it's been what eight days
since the crash that Killed Greg biffle and his, family
three other folks up in States Will federal authorities are
still pouring over things doing their. Investigation we're going.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
To get a preliminary report usually takes about thirty. Days
full investigation probably about a year and a. Half so
just so many questions involving what, happened what prompted them
to turn, Around who is piloting a? Plane we still don't.
Know how do these investigations go, though what's? Involved what

(01:34:31):
do they have to look at and maybe try to
figure out what some people think could have. Happened we're
going to try to figure that. Out and now joining
us Is Max.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Trescott aviation. Expert. Max good, Morning how are? You, God good?
Morning i'm.

Speaker 16 (01:34:52):
Fine THOUGH i wish we were talking about this under
read better.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
CIRCUMSTANCES i, Agree, max we were discussing it last. Segment
just how anytime you have an airplane crash with, fatalities it's,
tragic but this one just really hits home given all
the humanitarian work That Greg biffle had performed an, idiot
his family with, them and there are other people, killed.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
And so close to his, birthday so close to the.

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
Holidays but right now all we're left to do is
to honor, him to grieve, him and to figure out
what the heck. Happened And, max we have so many,
questions AND i know you're only limited in what you
can do and what you can, say but being an
aviation expert and knowing what you know and seeing what
you've seen in the various reports and so, forth do

(01:35:34):
you have any indication what could have led to?

Speaker 16 (01:35:37):
This, yes we've got some important, clues but, first let
me just extend my condolences to the family and the
loved ones who lost friends and family in this terrible.
Tragedy i've lost friends and playing. CRASHES i know how
terrible it, is AND i just wanted to say that

(01:35:59):
the reason we talk crashes is really to help prevent future.
Crashes pilots are learn a lot from what happens in other,
accidents and so that's why we talked about these. Things
BUT i think the big question initially was why did
this aircraft turn back to the. Runway in My Aviation

(01:36:19):
newstart podcast a week or so, AGO i mentioned that
there was a jump in the altitude at one, point
AND i went back and looked at that after you contacted.
Me and WHAT i discovered is that jump that we
see in the data was about thirteen hundred feet in
about two, seconds which is just physically. Impossible that would

(01:36:41):
imply a climb rate of about fifty thousand feet per,
minute which is not. Possible and so WHAT i discovered
is that the reported pressure altitude was stuck for about
thirty four, seconds and so that indicates some type of
malfunction in the way the altitude data was being. Collected
and then apparently the altimeter reporting system caught. Up you

(01:37:05):
know it jumped back to where it should, be AND
i think the aircraft then turned back toward the runway
about twenty seconds. Later so either air traffic control noted
this discrepancy and advised the. Pilots in some, cases the
pilots could note this kind of discrepancy in the. Cockpit
in some cases they. Can't BUT i think that's the
reason that they ended up turning back toward the.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Runway And i'm trying to wrap my mind around. This
so they turned around as a precaution because they're not
able to tell how high they. Are they're not able
to tell their. Elevation is that how you're framing.

Speaker 16 (01:37:38):
It, yeah they turned back because they saw essentially a
system malfunction that was kind of a red flag kind of, said,
whoa there's something odd going on with your altitude. Reporting
and you, know at that particular point in, time cau
cautionary landing makes a heck of a lot of. Sense you,
know maybe the altitude was then being reported, correctly but

(01:38:01):
when you see this large glitch kind of makes you, wonder,
hey are these problems going to? Continue so it makes
sense to try and get back on the.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
Ground have you personally ever been involved in a situation
like that where you've you've gotten up in the air
and you, Said, okay this isn't, RIGHT i need to
turn around and go back.

Speaker 16 (01:38:20):
Probably AND i just can't remember the. SPECIFICS i can
tell you that there was one time years ago when
the autotude reporting system in my airplane was. INCORRECT i
was climbing at it show THAT i was. Descending and
so the typical response then is air traffic control tells
you to stop reporting, Altitude so you turn on a

(01:38:42):
switch that gives this your position but no longer gives
the incorrect.

Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Altitude joining About Max, trescott aviation, expert host of The
Aviation News talk. Podcast you can follow him on x
At Max trescott And Max and we're just speculating right,
now and there's still so much to unver and not
with this entire. Thing i'm wondering, this, though when you
have an investigation into something like, this what are the

(01:39:09):
first things you're looking at trying to deduce what. Happened
obviously you were looking at the altitude and all, That
but if you're a federal, investigator what's the first stone you?

Speaker 16 (01:39:19):
Uncover, well, so certainly the data THAT i have is
just a small subset of what the investigators already have
at this particular point in. Time some of the most
valuable things are going to be looking at would be
the cockpit voice, recorder AND i have no doubt that
there's going to be some information on that that is

(01:39:40):
going to give them a clue as to why they turned.
Back and maybe WHAT i hypothesize, here it might be something,
different but THAT cdr is going to be absolutely golden
in terms of providing. Information they also look at the
air traffic control, tapes which are not available at this point.
Publicly they'll see what the conversation was between the air

(01:40:02):
traffic controllers and the pilots and the. Aircraft that's going
to give them more clues as. Well they'll take a
look at the, environment what was the weather. Like they'll
take a look at the maintenance history for that particular.
Aircraft they'll take a look at the, pilots the pilot's,
qualifications and they'll try to assemble all that data to
put together a picture of exactly what.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
Happened and, actually this was A CESSNA c five point fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Citation it was a business jet twin, engine but it
was a nineteen eighty one. Model can you help us
understand why that these these aircrafts are able to continue
flying at an older age when cars or maybe they
age out more. Quickly it's it because we use them more,
frequently or we don't service them as.

Speaker 16 (01:40:47):
Well, yeah it's a really good. Question we had a
huge number of aircraft built in the seventies and the
eighties and they're still around flying forty to fifty years,
later and they require a lot more inspections than your car.
Requires there is an annual inspection that's, required there are
all kinds of other intermediate inspections that are. Required so,

(01:41:11):
yes it's primarily the fact that a mechanics spend a
lot more time with these aircraft than they spend on your.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
Car mind.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
And, Max my last question is, This as this investigation
unfolds and they start getting more, information is there anything
maybe that you would suggest that they look at right
now given what you, know other than.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
The altitude portion of. This is there something you've seen
maybe from the crash, site or the way the way
that flames were burning or. Whatnot, NO i think.

Speaker 16 (01:41:42):
They're going to be looking at all the right. THINGS
i will say that the big question is going to
be why was the aircraft low when it lined up
nicely with the rue way and seemingly was in a
position to. Land there is an illusion that is the
pilot's handbook of aeronychical. Knowledge water, refraction and when you
have rain on a windscreen that we know it was,

(01:42:04):
rainy if not during the time of the, accident very
soon after. It those water droplets on the windshield refract
the light like tiny, lenses and they can alter the
apparent position of the. Horizon and so if the horizon looks,
lower a pilot may end up subconsciously correcting by lowering
the node and flying a lower. Approach and so for

(01:42:27):
pilots in, particular ALL i can say is study the
half dozen or so illusions because they're important and they
can sometimes get us in.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
Trouble it's heartbreaking and fascinating at the same. Time He's Max,
trescott aviation, expert host of The Aviation News talk. Podcast
you can follow him on x At Max. Trescott max
really appreciate you joining us, today appreciate your, expertise AND
i hope we catch up again.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Soon Thanks.

Speaker 6 (01:42:55):
Scott this is good morning beat.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Making the final lap final Hour Good MORNING vt on
this day After. Christmas Nick craig on the other, side
filling in For Vince. Cokeley i'm trying to find, out
AND i don't guess they've come out with those numbers.
Yet how big THE nfl audience was On netflix yesterday three,

(01:43:30):
games two, games two games On netflix won On prime
and they have not had those put out.

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
Yet the estimate is it's going to be over thirty
million viewers per game per, Game that is. Phenomenal twenty
six and a half million last, year they're expecting to
eclipse thirty million this go. Around that's that's, significant AND
i think it's because most people Have.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Netflix, Bernie do you Have netflix or you have that
one right? Law you?

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Have my in laws Have, netflix so we we, will you,
know partake In netflix, occasionally but it's not it's not
what we usually. USE i usually Were i'm On peacock Or. Hulu,
okay how are you able to use? There because they
did that whole deal where they cracked. Down we were
at their house yesterday For, christmas so they were able
to stream the. Game but you know other streaming, platforms you,

(01:44:28):
know they're not necessarily legal that the young kids know.
ABOUT i have a young brother in, law so he's
he's all into that kind of. Stuff so but we
got we got it On netflix and they're the ones
who hold the account for.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
It, YEAH i am aware of some of those Alternative,
yes there you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:45):
Go that's a great word for, it alternative, streaming stream
east and stuff like.

Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
That, George george is raising his. Hand, George, Well. Georges
george is a man man with a as a.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
Past he knows. Stuff he he knows. Stuff i'm just.
WONDERING i, mean.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
With with THE nfl hell bent on taking Over, christmas
how how long is it before we have more than?
THREE i, mean is is three games On Christmas?

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
Day is? That is that the max? CAPACITY i have to? Think?

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
So, YEAH i mean you got one at you, know
noon or one, o'clock and then you got one at four,
thirty and then you got a nighttime. Game but if
you want to do it for you, know The East
coast people throw one at nine to thirty in the.
Morning they only care about people in The West.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
Coast, YEAH i played when they go ahead and play
one In, london wake up In, california you watch football
all day.

Speaker 5 (01:45:37):
Long scott that's not. Fair it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
Fair, well THE, NFL i, mean THE nfl is one
of those. Sports it's an entity unlike any other. Where
it really transcend. Team people watch THE. Nfl it doesn't
matter who's. Playing, true, like we all have a team
we root, for but we will sit down and. WATCH
i Mean thanksgiving is a prime. Example very very, rarely
unless you're A cowboys and or A lions. Fan your

(01:46:01):
team cycles through like the rest of. Them but you watch. Football,
sure it's what you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Do it's.

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
True THE nfl man And Charles, barkley he had some pointed.
Words he called. Them he Called Roger goodell in THE
nfl And i'm using air quotes here pigs pigs for
wanting to take Over. CHRISTMAS i think that belong to.

Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
Us THE nfl is a, pig and it's trying to
fatten up the. Pig they're trying to make as much
money as it's all about the, money, honestly that they
feel like they can make a ton of.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
Money, Oh, scott, Oh george is Getting they do what
they want because they can do what they. Want that's
the bottom. Line, yeah THE nfl does what it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
Wants the college Football playoff needs the fucky stars that
THE nfl has decided to play nice with them to
a certain. Degree if you, remember, Though, bernie last year
during the opening round of The College Football, playoff THE
nfl kept on playing and it had some really good.
MATCHUPS i think The Ravens steelers were playing right about
the same Time clemson was Playing. Texas so THE, NFL i,

(01:47:06):
mean it's and it's absolutely. INCREDIBLE i mean it's always
been a powerful, entity but what it's morphed into over
the last twenty five, years probably thirty, years really really
sense the proliferation of sports networks and the rise of
another network In.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
FOX i feel like the money, increased.

Speaker 4 (01:47:27):
The other major sports have kind of taken not like a,
dive but a slow. Burn in terms of, POPULARITY i
feel like THE nfl has gained popularity where THE nba
was big.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
In the eighties and.

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
Nineties it's kind, of you, know not that it's not
still very, popular it's you, know it's not not quite the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Same you.

Speaker 4 (01:47:44):
Know you hear people talk about the good old days
of basketball and stuff like. That THE nfl is the
product is still you, know watchable for MOST i know
there's still some people that. Are you, know some of
the rules are Not, no they're not fond. Of BUT
i think THE, nfl like what you just, said the
brand itself is so.

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Big it's. Massive it is it's, massive and it's hard
to quantify exactly how valuable THAT nfl shield is. Worth
and to your, point the other sports have fallen.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
BEHIND i, mean they haven't, regressed but they've not advanced
to the point THE nfl has. Advanced AND i think
part of this also just, CULTURALLY i, Mean american football
is that it's a Truly american. Sport it's An american.
Sport you could say baseball Is america's national past, time
but that's from another, era you, know where our tension

(01:48:36):
spans are so much.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
Shorter.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
Now we need something that's faster and constantly, stimulating as
football provides.

Speaker 5 (01:48:41):
That i'm not a fan of Right manfred and.

Speaker 4 (01:48:43):
Baseball what he's done to baseball that just is not
nearly as fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Anymore for, ME.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
I think he's done the best he can to give
him the. Circumstances it's better than it. WAS i will
say THAT i love the pitch. Clock i'm okay with
the large your, BASIS i, mean it's kind of an
abomination of the, game but at the same time they're
doing what they can to keep.

Speaker 4 (01:49:06):
Up i'm all about, softball. BROTHER i just, love let
me tell, you the pitching. Duels that's WHAT i love
watching the. Baseball and then when the pitch clock has
kind of made it so that that's not as much
of a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Anymore, yeah and also because you're constantly subbing in, pitchers that's.
True i'll show my age here before we sign. OFF
i Remember John tudor in nineteen eighty five with The.
Cardinals he threw ten shutouts to their pitching staffs that
don't have ten complete.

Speaker 4 (01:49:32):
Games his name Was tudor tu d r out better
THAN i.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
Thought it would be. Spelled that's. Great that's it For
Good MORNING bt on this day After. Christmas Nick craig
on the other, side and For Vince, cochley, everybody have
a wonderful. Weekend work change Your harol smittch you appreciate
thors knots and thors.

Speaker 16 (01:49:56):
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