Good Morning BT | Sen. Thom Tillis and Mick Mulvaney - Good Morning BT with Bo Thompson & Beth Troutman

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You want to be good or do you want to
be somebody who changes the world?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Can be both?

Speaker 3 (00:06):
From Means Talk eleven ten and ninety nine three Double Beat.

Speaker 4 (00:10):
I have been around a long time for this has
the makings of a team that can bring light from
the dark.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
This is good Morning Beaty with Bo Thompson and Beth
trout Man year on.

Speaker 5 (00:22):
That can be on the weeks walk ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four,
three two.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
One.

Speaker 6 (00:35):
Good morning, Phyllis. I understand what you feel.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
That's a well placed good morning, aren't you, Mike. No,
of course you know. I'm as big a Boys to
Men fan as any guy out there, any man out there.

(01:11):
But it depends on the.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Song by so not this one. This is the one
where the bass singer comes out and says it's a
good move. I think I kind of have an explanation.
Happy Monday, guys, Oh Happy Monday to you. I'm reading

(01:33):
a book and I was reading before I went to sleep,
and the U the protagonist finally admitted that he was
in love with the female character, and I think that's
what got the song going.

Speaker 7 (01:46):
This is a harlequin romance reading.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's not it's not it's.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Not push check out lines. You buy that one in.

Speaker 7 (01:55):
Both nobbletes Monday.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I don't read romance novels, you know, oddly if.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
We're going for the appropriate genre. If I was going
to do the Kansas switch through right now, carry on
my wayward son, I would go like this, see this
is how you do it. She didn't take request and
listen to this song for a month.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know what else I could listen to for a
month is water runs dry?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
All right?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
The drum beat?

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, so this is my hijacking.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
You would totally miss, the guy say in his baseline.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Okay, go back to it, all right, Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Here it comes.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
The music is a lovelights passion. Look to us, you
never your eyes in fact situations. Last, and.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
What a way to wake up guys, I'm telling you, what.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Does this mean?

Speaker 7 (03:06):
It definitely went from being a boy to a man
right there.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Oh he's about it's about to get worse.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Tonight.

Speaker 8 (03:14):
I feel this is my grass.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
Oh wow, hella.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
If you needed to hear this song today, you know what,
I would love it if someone needed to hear some
boys to men today.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Seven O four five, seven eleven ten. And now we
have the text line makes it even easier for you
to to wait. We had one day a couple of
years ago when we started this where Beth played Strangers
in the Night by Frank Sinatra, got this long note
from a listener about how they needed to hear that
it was just what they needed to hear that day,
that time. And who knows, maybe this is yours today.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
This probably takes people our age back to high school.
I saw Boys to Men, No, that would be this.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
This is high schools right here.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I saw baby Face open for Boys to Men at
the new coliseum that no longer exists.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Hang on, here we go.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
This is everyone's graduation song in the nineties as well.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
It should have been. What a song And at the
time it broke records for the longest running number one.
And then I think Boys to Men had a new
song come out that beat this one.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Of course you know that.

Speaker 7 (04:37):
Yeah, I'm Casey Casel.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Big Day on the countdown, folks, long distance dedications and
special guests and even some chart trivia. We have Big
Day in the studio, not just a Mick mulvaney in
the house in the nine o'clock hour. In fact, even
earlier in the eight o'clock hour, We're going to start
at eight thirty because we have so much to talk about.
But US Senator Tom Tillis is going to be in
the House today as well. So it's a two for

(05:01):
Monday in the world of politics. And as we always say,
to mix, too bad, there's nothing to talk about. It's
been a big weekend, as it always has been. Carolina
Panthers fan fast. This weekend, we'll talk to Zokie because
the Panthers are officially on the clock. It's game week
pregame pre season game number one coming up on Friday.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
And so.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
And so.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
And so will you soon suppose.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
If my son is made you.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
So another weekend, that would be another member of the crew.
Here taken in the Billy Joel documentary.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
He is so stealth.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I was just thinking of stealth about.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Is listening to you?

Speaker 7 (05:57):
I hear Everything's got Dad.

Speaker 8 (06:00):
Here's who touched with Arbus down.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
You guys were were talking about this. I still have
not watched it.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I know this seems perfect for you.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
I was very real quick.

Speaker 7 (06:12):
I didn't realize how long it was. It's only just
like two episodes, oh perfect, two episodes each one is
two and a half hours. Yeah, it's five hours.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
It's a commitment.

Speaker 9 (06:19):
Pete Callener came in one day and said, yeah, I
stayed up way too late the night watching episode two
of Really Old last night.

Speaker 7 (06:24):
It was like eleven fifteen and we got that with
part two.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
When I mentioned last week that there's a I guess
the way you it's a It's a not a new album.
It's a playlist of things that I guess they've pieced
together that you can listen. It's like it's like five
or six hours long. That goes along with this. So
if you want to more of what you've just seen,
you can, uh you can pull it up on Spotify now.

(06:47):
It's on iTunes as of a couple of days ago.

Speaker 10 (06:49):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
So there's a there's a A and it's basically Billy
Joel and snippets from the documentary and some other things
thrown in and regular songs and live songs. But I
haven't something come along this elaborate in a while that
really has has kind of captured the attention of a
lot of people. But you know, every every day I
come across somebody else who's just you basically come across

(07:12):
it on the streaming. It's on HBO Max, right right, yeah,
and you can't leave it.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
It's like the documentary you didn't know you needed. Because
I think we, I hate say, we kind of take
him for granted. He's been around, no matter how old
you are, your entire life. He's been performing for over
fifty years. There's been some may you know, kind of
read generations of his music, and anyone has followed his
career notes he constantly changes his sound and his kind
of his tone of what an album will be. And he's,

(07:38):
as both talked about last week, he's not written anything
in like thirty years, and he talks about that. But
it's so well died and when Tom Hanks produced it
until we started watching the first opening credits to that
or whatever. But I mean, it's real detailed, and it's
almost constantly got some music under it as he's talking.
And there are some things they gloss over, and there's
some things they spend a lot of time on. But
obviously a lot of it is the family stuff with
the four marriages and the different children and the alcoholism.

(08:03):
Going to get that treated. But it was I thought
was well done, and you forgot, not that you forgot
how much music he has. But it's like what a catalog,
I mean, just an amazing so many things he's been through,
changing his band and starting his band and then bringing
some of them back.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Changing producers, just the way that he went about his career.
The thing that I loved about it was learning the
backstories for the songs that he wrote, the personal experiences
the people behind those songs. I knew nothing about. And
it probably tells you my age because I became a
Billie Joel fan in the eighties with the album that

(08:39):
had Uptown Girl, an Innocent Man and all of that
stuff on it. I knew nothing about his first wife,
and she was just a firecracker, just a brilliant woman,
basically created his career for him. Was his manager, kind
of kept him going and on the road. But the
weird thing about it, I knew nothing about how they met,
and how they met is quite in.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
Their teenage years.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Scandalous. Well, I mean, but she was married to his
best friend.

Speaker 7 (09:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, but just like a high school relationship.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, spoiler spoiler alert.

Speaker 7 (09:09):
Yeah, there's a lot. Don't worry, there's a lot of
other wife stories later that'll.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, you get plenty of wife stories.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
I want to sit down and watch it. I really
do to be completely transparent. And I've said this to
Beth off the air, but you know that that song
that he wrote, the very last song or that he released,
I think there's been a backstory about how it was
sort of written by a guy who wanted him to
sing this, but that's the last song. That was the
last song my daughter and I really connected over. And

(09:36):
so the song itself and then Billy Joel period sort
of has a It just kind of takes me to
a place and I don't know if I'm totally ready
to sit down and get what I know will make me,
you know, doubly emotional. But I'm going to watch it,
and I'm looking forward to seeing it. And it just
keeps getting reinforced from people how well done it is

(09:57):
and that you have to basically sit down and give
it the time it deserves because it's not short.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
And his family relationships are complicated. Some of the early marriages,
the issue was that he wasn't home for his kids,
and then as he gets older and has more kids,
how that becomes a priority for him to not be
on the road. So it's a lot of being on
the road, not being on the road as far as
being a dad, and Bose like the best dad I
can imagine anyone ever happened. So it's just like it is,
it's a lot to take in. And again it's it's

(10:24):
a commitment. It's it's five hours over just two different ones.
So the second one we broke up in two different
days to watch because it's like watching a long movie
to watch one of the two episodes.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
And his relationship with his father and his father's history
and his family history, all of that was fascinating. And
just to be completely transparent, they don't touch on that
song at all in the documentary. They don't touch on
his latest song. They kind of stop with the composing
that he did of classical music and really nothing more

(10:55):
beyond his family. After the classical music composition, Well.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
That I'll make it easier to watch it now, I
mean Billy Joel period was you know, I just have
a certain I have a different feeling about Billy Joel
now than I used to. And for uh so it's
a it's you know, it's complicated, but I'm gonna watch it,
There's no doubt about it, because look, watching it will
will make me think of her, and that's a good thing.

(11:20):
I just have to be ready in that mode, and
I haven't been been there yet. I didn't mean to
get ultra personal, but I know y'all are thinking, like,
how is he not watched that thing?

Speaker 7 (11:28):
So, you know, and to talk about him person all
they missed it. I mean, my life should have been
the song the references the title that's right there, my life,
right but anyway, he references at one point like his
life's a bit of a Greek tragedy. It really is
just up for all the highs and all the success
and all the money, and everybody knows who he is
just because of all the lows. He really is a

(11:49):
living Greek tragedy.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
So it's called and so it goes, and it's on
HBO Max right now. Has been out for a few weeks.
And like I said, there's that DeLong companion playlist that
you can act excess on Spotify or now iTunes just
about everywhere.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Good morning, hey Mancy, enjoy your show.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Thank you love the show, longtime listen or over a decade.
Consider you guys part of family.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Oh oh, he says, you're very kind, Hew.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
You This is good morning, Pet.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Back at it on a Monday. It's August fourth, six
thirty seven, to be exact. Back right around the PGA
Championship a few months ago. You remember, we were talking
one morning about this dude on YouTube who had this
diatribe about coming to Charlotte for the first time. He
was here to see the PGA Championship, and he was

(12:41):
complaining about all the observations he made about Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, specifically there were no good restaurants. That was his
number one complaint.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
But he did not do it in a I mean,
that was that was his main complaint. But he had
like a laundry list of little things that annoyed him.
And some people would say, why do you even give
these people time? Well, you know, I'm a lifelong Charlotte tean.
You've been around here all your life. A lot of
people in this room have long histories in this area.
I am curious to see what somebody sort of cold
Turkey thinks when they come through here. I love it

(13:12):
here and you don't have to convince me of anything.
But I am wondering. I do wonder as time goes
by and things change, the what the perception is from
the people who are on the outside looking in and
then decide to come on in.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
You know what I always used to think about when
I was a kid is that people would come to
the Concord exit to like fill up gas on their
way somewhere somewhere else. They would just stop in Concord
and fill up gas. And they didn't know there was
a whole city with a whole with all these lives
going on. It was just it's just a gas stop
for the little I don't know why that hit me
so hard as a kid, but it bothered me that

(13:46):
these people would come and they would just fill up
their gas.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
See that's you in a nutshell. A lot of people
would be like, don't come, don't come any further, Come
get gas and go on about your business best Like
they have no idea what happens right around the next
next turn.

Speaker 11 (13:58):
We've got a lot.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I'm on BI.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Well, so the guy I was saying to Steve, because
Steve's the one who flagged this on Instagram. Am I
supposed to know who Mike Foene is.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I didn't know who Mike fied. I'm guessing he's just
a you know, Instagram influencer who creates videos because in
this particular video you're about to hear it's the same
guy doing two different characters talking to each other about Charlotte.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
So here we go, brace yourselves.

Speaker 8 (14:22):
Welcome to Charlotte.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Cheer wife.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
What is that?

Speaker 12 (14:24):
It's a cheery Flainford soda that we drink to keep
dentists in business. Speaking of business, what bank do you
work for? I don't work for a bank. Oh so
you're like opening a brewery or something?

Speaker 5 (14:33):
What?

Speaker 10 (14:33):
No?

Speaker 5 (14:34):
Like?

Speaker 12 (14:34):
Ah, this heat is making my fingers swell. Yeah, when
it comes to Drouli in this weather, you're gonna want
to be like the panthers and the hornets no rings, Okay,
I mean the panthers are a way of life out here.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Now.

Speaker 12 (14:44):
They're like Charlotte because there's a lot of promise but
they never deliver.

Speaker 8 (14:47):
So then what do you do for fun?

Speaker 12 (14:49):
Fun?

Speaker 11 (14:50):
I mean sometimes we.

Speaker 12 (14:51):
Go to the overlook at the airport and watch planes
fly away the better cities. Well, you got the Charlotte
Motor Speedway, right, that seems like fun. Yeah, if you
like getting Dave drunk in the hot side, I'm watching
people make two hundred mile an hour left turns. You
guys have to do something. Well, uh yeah, with the
Fomento cheese capital of the World.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I'm out of here.

Speaker 12 (15:08):
I've told you the best part yet. Please your free
Charlotte Starter Kids, Barbara Hoover, Maxpien Shop, free tickets, and
Caro wins in the National White Water Center, Charlotte Banking
Breweries and Bojangles.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh god, Banking breweries and Bojangles. But you know what,
I'm not mad at any of those things.

Speaker 8 (15:25):
Drinking in the hot sung it sounds kind of fun.

Speaker 7 (15:26):
Well, what's the complaint about?

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, I think the best line of the whole thing
was like, man, this hot weather's making my fingerswell, well,
you gotta be like the hornets and the panthers. No jewelry,
no rings, no rings.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Why do these keep popping up?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
And why why? When he said what do you do
for fun? We go to the airport lookout and watch
planes fly away to better cities.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
I mean, they just redesigned it. It's a lot better
than it used to. Though.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
It's a great It is clever. But I don't you know,
we've all, especially you, Zokie, we've all visited a lot
of cities around the entry. Do you think that there
are better cities.

Speaker 7 (16:02):
No, I think he's raised family here, so it's been
here for thirty five years. And I think, you know,
social media is what it is. It's supposed to be funny,
so I think we can laugh at ourselves. But he
hit on a lot of the good things there. I
mean he didn't miss a lot. Ye with the breweries
on with that, Yeah, the barbecue, the bow Jangles, He's
not wrong.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
We did good barbecue. I didn't know that we were
the pimento cheese capital of the world.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
And he really doubles down on the cheerwine. Yeah, Like,
I know cheerwine's there, and I know Salisbury and all
that stuff, but like, I've never been obsessed with cheerwine
yesterday actually, like do you have it every day?

Speaker 8 (16:35):
No?

Speaker 5 (16:35):
No, it's nice to hite about cheerwine.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
Is it still this way? Their can was like substantially
thinner than other cans. I always felt like I would
dentit if I just picked it up.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
It was this thin little can.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
It would make me mad because it felt like so
not substantial enough to hold.

Speaker 8 (16:48):
It's why you get the fountain, like your thumb would
go through it.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
You never ever heard anyone talk about that.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
There was something about the quality of the or the
lack of quality.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Well, now I'm not going to be able to do it. Now.
Every time I have one, I'm like, no, see it's
a little flimsy.

Speaker 8 (17:00):
That's a soft cam.

Speaker 7 (17:01):
He didn't mention that, but I could have helped it
with that lie.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I can't think of the last time I had a
cheer wine. But if I'm going to go for a
North Carolina, yeah, sundrop. If I'm going for a North
Carolina beverage, it's going to be a sundrop. The bottling
place was right down the street from my house growing up.
Kind of I always wanted to just go there and
just be like, is there a nozzle? I could just
like just let it pour it in.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
I want to tell you, the diet sun Drop is
unbelievably good, and I thank Richard Spiers for that. Back
in the day, he used to drink that all the time.
And if you go out and you compare the diet
Mountain Dew to the diet mellow Yellow to the diet
or now that's all zero. But diet sun Drop, I'm
telling you, is the real deal.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
The diet cherry Lemon. I remember kind of back in
the day when it first came out, being like, oh
this this is tasty. It tastes just like the others,
the ones that.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Aren't diet well. So there you go, Mike Feene taking
shots at Charlotte's Way to go.

Speaker 13 (17:55):
Mike.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
Yeah, Where's where's Jerko from?

Speaker 5 (17:58):
That's a good questions from Instagram.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
I always wondering, like where they're making fun like where
are you from? Like Akron, Like where do you think?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
He's probably from Dayton.

Speaker 8 (18:06):
I didn't like he was talking too fast.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
I don't like he probably does this for every city,
like like he goes and makes one for every city.
So we'll talk about him, right, And I know someone's
going to say, well, he was successful because you talked
about him. But I did think the line about the
rings was funny.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, I thought it was pretty clever.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Yeah, and I found out in this segment that cheer
one has has thin cans.

Speaker 7 (18:24):
Notice it next time.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I feel like we need to go down and grab
one somewhere and see how flimsy it actually is.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Do we have those in the machines?

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Don't get it their bottles?

Speaker 8 (18:31):
Oh okay, maybe downstairs they might have. Oh yeah, the
vending machine.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Six forty three on WBT traffic check right now, boom
or von Cannon?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Thank you? Beth have an issue?

Speaker 13 (18:42):
You know what, I don't take a sun drop?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
How about that?

Speaker 13 (18:44):
We'll take a sun drop?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Right?

Speaker 13 (18:47):
They have flimsy cans too, but it's worth it.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Well, they were all bottled together, so it all makes sense.

Speaker 8 (18:52):
It does make sense.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
Does Charlotte Home of Flimsy Cans?

Speaker 6 (18:55):
Right?

Speaker 7 (18:57):
Have some lights crackers with you this weekend at the
double door flimsy Cans?

Speaker 5 (19:01):
That actually is a good big and boys to men
at the fish Camp fish Camp Jam.

Speaker 11 (19:06):
They're cir ninety two.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
They put on a show and they really you were
at a renaissance man, all this stuff. I thought I
knew about you, and I had no idea. It's like
Beth and people coming to the exiting concord. You have
no idea? What more we have?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Why are you just stopping here for gas?

Speaker 13 (19:25):
Just do a walk around.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
We're a dry town, but it's fun. Not anymore.

Speaker 7 (19:30):
But we were then on Sundays.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
No, we were dry the whole twenty four not until
my senior year of high school. Really, yeah, dry town.
My dad had to go to Kannapolis to the Pizza
Hut to get a picture of beer.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
He was their tough customers.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
He had to go into county to do where Dad was.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Family at the Pizza Hunt. They're getting pizza hut.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Boomer's fault. He put the song in my head. You
know when somebody mentions a song and you have to
hear it to get it out of your head, otherwise
it'll just stay there forever.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I do that pretty frequently so that I don't sing
my morning song on repeat over and over again.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, in order to get it out of Beth's head,
we had to play it over the fifty thousand Wants.
But Boomer just said it a few minutes ago, and
I was going to be like Alman Brothers. I gotta
have him. Top ten US cities for job opportunities and
earning potential, and New York and LA don't make the
list at all, but two to.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Count them, North Carolina cities made the list. One two
how many is too?

Speaker 5 (20:49):
This is from the US Census Bureau and based on
data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. But like Beth says,
New York and La not in there. But guess who is.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Us Charlotte, Charlotte. Yes, in Concord. We'll start Concord, the suburbs.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
People are finally going past the exit.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
They're finally taking the edit and staying there in Concord.
If we go through this list, starting at number ten,
we have Indianapolis, Indiana. Number nine, a close by city, Charleston,
South Carolina, which I love to hear, one of the
coolest cities I think in the in the country. Number
eight Charlotte, North Carolina. Right here. Yeah, you guys where

(21:29):
those who didn't know who didn't know where we were.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
And again it says here Charlotte's labor force has grown
upwards or by upwards of ten percent in the last
five years. Quote. There's a lot of financial business in Charlotte,
which continues to draw people to the area as well.
This is some of the you know, the explanation that
they know. It's little bullet points for each one of them.
Omaha is seventh, Denver is six, Portland is five, and.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Then once we get to the top four, you have
Salt Lake City, Utah, Austin, Texas. Nashville, Tennessee, also a
close by city. The number one city Raleigh, North Carolina.
It says Raleigh is part of North Carolina's Research Triangle,
a tech and science hub that encompasses North Carolina State University,

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Duke University, and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
The Research Triangle opens up a ton of opportunities in healthcare, education,
and it's always going to be popular for jobs.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
Away feel like it's cheating when they say the Triangle,
It's like they're just like land grabbing everywhere. Yeah, we're
Raleigh and Durham and we're gonna ta Chapel Hill.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (22:36):
It's like saying we're taking Charleston then, and then Columbia
and there's Kerry Yeah for us, Yeah yeah, then we
skip over with Wake.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Does it matter both of them, the city and the university.

Speaker 8 (22:48):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
But how great is that we have all of these
number one towns for opportunity, job growth all right here
in this little area. You have Raleigh, Nashville, Charleston, and
Charlotte all right here together. You know what else? You
know who else was not on this list? Atlanta?

Speaker 5 (23:06):
That's right, Yeah, no, no, atl And if you're wondering,
how did they come up with these scores, it's called
an opportunity score. They calculated the employment opportunity score for
each city based on unemployment rate, labor force growth, labor
force size, and the percentage of jobs open. Then to
calculate the earning potential score, they analyzed each city's real

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per capita personal income, ten year income growth, and the
percentage of households earning more than two hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
And you know, I think ten years ago, maybe if
you came here to change jobs, to relocate and buy
a home, if you were coming from the Northeast, you
were probably thinking, oh, man, this place is completely affordable.
And then all the people started moving in, and now
it's not affordable here anymore. I don't feel like houses
are affordable. I don't feel like the I don't feel

(23:56):
like you get all the bang for your buck that
you used to see. Not a feeling bath that it's real.
But it happened so incredibly quickly.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
Don't forget the closing table.

Speaker 8 (24:07):
I wish I bought a house when I was like two.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
I've been great, that would be a great investment deal.

Speaker 8 (24:12):
What was I doing?

Speaker 5 (24:13):
But Jim is right. Anytime it's ever Charlotte versus someone
in North Carolina. It usually is like a conglomeration of
cities together.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
My whole life is the triangle just cheats, like, let's
just keep grabbing cities till we're bigger and have more things.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
And don't forget the triad triangle.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Triad is Greensboro, what Greensboro High and Salem and then
the triangle. So what can Charlotte, what can we grab?

Speaker 7 (24:37):
We'll just grab Columbia. It's a different state.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
I don't care, well Charlotte, Well Charleston.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
We'll take Charleston.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
It's got lots of triangles within the hexagon.

Speaker 11 (24:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
We're taking you in Matthews at Pineville.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
That'll be the that'll be the new catch Friars. Charlotte's
got a lot of triangles, of triangles of other cities
around us.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
I guess, I guess rock Hill would probably be the closest.
It's a kind of mill Rockill, Fort Mil And then
you got throw in TKK as a.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Bonus, Carolyn, throw in tk They have a lot of
deeper you're.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
Taking Fort Mill, you just get TKAK. Hey you got
Port Mill, but you got take tikak.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
But I do feel like, if you really think about it,
if you're coming from a city like Boston, or you're
coming from you know, the cities like New York City,
these these much older cities than Charlotte is, it's not
spread out quite the same way and certainly not as
affordable as as Charlotte is. Even with the way that
prices have gone up here, we still, compared to other

(25:34):
large city hubs, are affordable with housing. I mean a
lot of those places you have to rent and uh.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
For years we did a series called Going Global in
conjunction with CPCC and had Tony Zeissen here a lot
of the movers and shakers of Charlotte. And the one
thing about Charlotte that many of them said that gets
often unmentioned. And I know that we talk a lot
about the construction that's going on, but the airport we
have here and it's proximity to the railroad and the

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mobility out of the central hub near the airport is
a big deal, much more as far as you know,
for commerce and for economic development than people realize. And
a lot of us are kind of like, you've been
here for a long time. Yeah, it's the airport, it's
the you know, you have, we've got railroads, but the
proximity of everything makes Charlotte a unique hub. And I
heard that relayed to me years and years from a

(26:25):
lot of people, from a lot of different walks of life,
and it's something that we all just kind of, you know, assume,
has just always been that way, and it's it's a
huge selling point.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
You want a fun train station Cannapolis, I'm telling you,
if you want to get on the train, go together.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
That was so top of mind. Wow, everybody was thinking
of the same thing, but you said at first, if
you want a fun train experiences.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Capalist train station is fantastic. And if you're going to
switch trains the Raleigh. Raleigh's a big hub for the Amtrak.
Really beautiful little train station and it's right downtown Raley.
You can get off the train, walk right over to
a hotel.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
Well greens while we're at it. Greensboro's got a cool
old timey train station too.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
People need to ride the train more man. Oh yeah,
it's lovely.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Trains there for you and me.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
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Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, the energy in this place is just amazing, pure energy.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
This is Good Morning Beat with Bo Thompson and Beth Trout.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
With what I'm talking about is the pulse of the
collection coming a little.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Percussion Monday morning in the Tyboid studio Programming note us
Senator Tom Tillis and former White House Chief of Staff
Mick mulvaney together in studio just past eight thirty, so
we'll talk to them here in the house for the
last hour and a half of the show today. Been

(27:57):
looking forward to this, finally worked it out. Senate is
on recess, so Senator Tillis will be here. We are
here right now and Zochie is here and finally pre
season week number one is here for the Carolina Panthers
following fan fest on Saturday, and lots of good things
said about that. In fact, here's what Dave Kanalas said

(28:17):
about that.

Speaker 14 (28:18):
All right, that was a lot of fun right there,
Just great energy, so much love for the fans that
came out. I don't know what the final count was
on attendance, but I mean it was it was a
good amount.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Lots of great energy.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
The guys needed it.

Speaker 14 (28:32):
You know, we're we're deep into camp, so all the
help we can get to just kind of create those
types of practices, you know, but took advantage of a
full pre game for our rookies just kind of here's
how we lay it out, you know, took them into
the half, got them a feel for refocusing, splitting up
offense defense, working through some issues from.

Speaker 13 (28:49):
The first half.

Speaker 11 (28:50):
So but I thought there was a lot of.

Speaker 14 (28:52):
Good hitting out there, you know, some some good, some bad.
I'm sure we'll figure all that out as we've watched film,
but definitely a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
So here we go. It's pregame Week one, and the
Carolina Panthers will be at Bank of America Stadium on
Friday night to welcome the Cleveland Browns, which are an
interesting team in of themselves. But you got a joint
practice on Wednesday with the Browns, and you know, it's
not real football yet, but it's it's closer to it,
which is the most important thing.

Speaker 7 (29:20):
And coach Canal has said last week that unlike last year,
in these first two preseason games, the starters will play.
So if you're going to the game on Friday and
just for observation in general, we'll get to see the
starters more than they did last year, which was like
briefly in the third preseason game last year. So I
think they want to create as much regular season football
contact physicality, working on stuff in the preseason and in

(29:42):
these practices, in the joint practice sessions to get ready,
because remember last year was like not a good start
against New Orleans last year in that first game, So
I think they want to be more at that, you know,
kind of peak level ready for the regular season opener.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
How are you feeling.

Speaker 7 (29:55):
I feel great, thanks, I feel like my vocal cords
are ready. You got a big game, looking forward to
working with Kurt Coleman, Kevin donand But you're talking about
my feelings about the team, probably right.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Right right, just having seen the training camp, you know,
having seen I loved him is made up.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
Yeah, I think I think as advertised, they addressed a
lot of needs in the draft and in free agency
this offseason. So I do feel like, you know, a
team that was ascending last year with a quarterback that's
ascending that they should be able to pick up and
then take it to the next level this season. So
I feel good about you know, the way they've attacked it.
I like what Dan Morgan's doing the GM. I'm trying
to address needs, especially in defense. I mean, we had

(30:34):
a really lot of holes on defense last year. I
think in free agency they brought in a lot of
veteran guys on the defensive line in particular, and then
adding Traypan Merrick the safety from the Raiders on a
big four year deal, is probably the most substantial long
term signing they had. And then offensively, you know, they
kind of swung the bat at taking the first round pick,
not going defense and bringing in the big receiver teed
Aron McMillan. I think people are excited about his potential

(30:56):
and what he can bring to the offense for Bryce.
So I think overall, I mean, you should just be
a team that's that's headed the right direction and kind of,
as they say, like they're putting like a number on
the number of Wednesday, expect, but I mean they expect improvement.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I've been thinking about Teddy McMillan since last week when
you were talking about him and how like big his
arms are and how he can reach for the ball
in weird places, and in my brain I now picture
him like Freddy Krueger in whichever one where he grew
his arms really long. Was it the was it the
third one.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
Where his arms got rolled long Dream Warriors?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Was it Dream Warriors? And his arms got like super long?
So I picture Teddy McMillan like Freddy Krueger with these
super long long arms or like go go gadget arms
that can just catch anything, like.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
Those those blow things that are like by the road,
those marketing things are like the arms are like flayling crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, blow me whatever they're called.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
Like that, like really tall in the arms.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
We'll call them blow men.

Speaker 7 (31:49):
A fan in them, yeah, exactly, you know what I'm
talking about.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Or plastic Man Fantastic four.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, they have a name. There was a there was
I think an episode of Family Guys.

Speaker 8 (31:56):
Evacuating inflatable arm flailing tube man.

Speaker 7 (31:58):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
Look at Bernie recall.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
I've been saying it for years.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
He's been waiting to say that.

Speaker 8 (32:02):
WACKI waving and platable arm flailing tube man.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
So he's like one of those like that.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Great commercial good It's like, Carlos, you just had that
in the holster all these years.

Speaker 8 (32:12):
That's one of my supersals. He was way for that
moment the USS well done, thank you. I can't say
other words though.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Seven thirteen on Newstalk eleven ten DOUBBT. So again, Panthers
take on the Cleveland Browns on Friday. They also will
play the Houston Texans on the road and then the
Pittsburgh Steelers. So three games in the shortened pre season
compared to what it used to be the four game thing.
But this is the week joint practice also with the
Texans the following week, So lots coming up with Zochie

(32:41):
and the crew. Seven thirteen on WBT. Looks like Nancy
Mace has made it official with the campaign video. I
believe it was a week ago today that Roddy Cooper
did the online here I Go thing. So we'll let
you know what Nancy Mace is up to with South
Carolina governor's race. And like I said in the final
hour and a half, today, we'll have a US Senator
Tom Tillis in the studio along with Nick mulvaney. So

(33:03):
lot's going on.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
This is good morning, Beatty.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
The House Republican has drawn Ira Bod Democrats and members
of her own party.

Speaker 11 (33:11):
She is a way of getting under their skins.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Representative Nancy Mace.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Nancy Mace, Iireman, Republican Congresswoman Nancy mays she's a fighter.

Speaker 13 (33:19):
I know about that.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
She's a fighter.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
She learned resilience early on.

Speaker 7 (33:23):
Mace became the first woman to graduate from South Carolina's
famed military college.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
And you've taken a lot of abuse for standing up
for the rights of women.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
But what they forget is that, Laura, I'm the first
woman who graduated from the Citadel.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
I will not be bullied into silence. Nancy May scores
a huge victory in her flight to keep biological.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Men out of women's bathroom.

Speaker 10 (33:41):
We will be courageous, we will be resilient. When she
sets her sight on something, She's tough, and.

Speaker 15 (33:48):
We will be prepared to take on the challenges of
this historic moment.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
So it is official. That audio coming to you straight
from Nancymace dorg And, as she alluded to and teased
over the weekend, Nancy Mace has officially thrown her hat
into the ring to run for South Carolina governor. This
on the heels of last week we had Congressman Ralph
Norman adding his name to the list, and it's already

(34:19):
a pretty crowded field to begin with. But Nancy Mace,
who has really spent the last year or so increasing
her name id out there in various ways is now
officially in So we're not surprised to get this news
on Monday morning. But now that's how it came about,
in the form of her official video that is now

(34:41):
on her website and her social media platforms, etc.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Now, whether you like Nancy Mace or not, that was
an effective launch video. I think there was something interesting
about taking some of the negative soundbites from newscast, taking
some of the positive things that Donald Trump has said
about her, and then take moments from her speech. If
I'm correct, that speech was from the RNC when she
spoke at the rn C, and so she has her words,

(35:07):
she has the media's words, and then also like moments
of her doing interviews with CNN and Fox News. I
think it's an effect of well edited launch video and
very different, by the way, from say Governor Roy Cooper's
launch for the North Carolina or for the US Senate.
His video decidedly different from that that has more of

(35:28):
a movie trailer type feel, where his had more of
a I'm talking to the camera, you know moment feel.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
So last week it was Ralph Norman and last week
also in North Carolina was Roy Cooper. We also had
Michael Wattley holding a rally last week. We'll see if
Nancy Mace is going to hold a rally of sorts
today or at some point this week to be on
the heels of the official campaign announcement online that you
just heard. Other news political news to get to. And

(35:57):
by the way, we'll have Mick Mlveghy in here a
little bit later. And of course he of course from
South Carolina was a congressman there knows Nancy Mace well,
and we alluded that this might be happening last week.
But now it's officials, so we'll get his thoughts and
of course Senator Tillis's as well. But the big story
related to President Trump this weekend was his reaction to
the announcement on Friday that the economy added just seventy

(36:20):
three thousand jobs the July numbers. Job numbers were below expectations,
and President Trump, as you now know, fired the commissioner
of the Bureau of Labor Statistics after the agency reported
the numbers. He did not like this at all, had
a pretty fiery truth social posting and fired the person

(36:41):
who was the messenger here.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
And this has created many headlines, a lot of people
speaking out against this, saying, hey, just because you don't
like statistics or don't like the numbers, you're not supposed
to fire the person just because you don't like the
message that the math gave. Then, as is always the
case with President Trump, others came out and supported his decision.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
So the current or should I say now former Commissioner
Bureau of Labor Statistics fired was appointed by President Biden.
The person before that was a guy named Bill Beach,
the previous Commissioner of Labor Stats, and he was on
CNN on a State of the Union yesterday talking about, well,

(37:29):
reacting to what's happened here.

Speaker 16 (37:31):
The commissioner doesn't do anything to collect the numbers. The
commissioner doesn't see the numbers until Wednesday before they're published.
By the time the commissioner sees the numbers, they're all prepared,
they're locked into the computer system. The only thing the
commissioner does on Wednesday is to kind of do the
edits on the text. So there's no hands on at
all for the commissioner. I was commissioner, and I was

(37:53):
sometimes locked out of the process of actually where the
people were working in the building. So there's no way
for doing that. Well, I think really upset the president
on Friday where the revisions to May and June, big revisions.
But that's because like every time we publish on Friday,
there are revisions to the previous two months. This is

(38:14):
a survey, and a survey has sample returns. You know
people have done surveys. You know you answer your phone.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
You're basically like a poll.

Speaker 11 (38:22):
Yes, like a poll.

Speaker 16 (38:23):
Not everybody in the country is asked the question are
you working? Are you looking for work? Just a handful
and businesses about six hundred thousand businesses, Well, they don't
all get their return gent on time.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I would like them ULTI coming in the time.

Speaker 16 (38:38):
But BLS keeps the door open for two more months
to get more information. So what you saw on Friday
was the effect of trying to do a better job
getting more information.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
And let me just end with this.

Speaker 16 (38:53):
Studies show that BLS is getting a doing a better
job now than they did twenty years ago, twenty thirty
years years ago in estimating the first number. So even
though it revised two more times, that seventy three thousand
will be revised two more times and that's they're more
accurate now than they were thirty years ago.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
So I said groundless.

Speaker 16 (39:16):
I don't know there's any grounds at all this for
this firing, and it really hurts the statistical system. It
undermines credibility. And BLS supposed that they get a new commissioner,
and this person, male or female, are just the best
people possible, right, and they do a bad number, Well,
everybody's going to think, well, it's not as bad as
it probably really is because they're going to suspect political influence.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
So this is damaging.

Speaker 16 (39:38):
This is not what we need to have.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
So that's the BLS commissioner once removed that President Trump
appointed in his first administration. His name is Bill Beach.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
And if you hear what he's saying there, that the
corrections to the previous two months. That happens every time
that these numbers are released, because, like he said, all
of this statistics don't get in on time and they're
just trying to do the math to create the most
accurate number possible. But he I think he does make

(40:11):
an excellent point. They are saying that look if if
these numbers come out and they're suddenly somehow flowery and shiny.
This gives the Democrats and opponents of Donald Trump's They
give the reason to say, hey, this person is acting
based on political loyalty because you fired the person who
put out numbers that you didn't feel were right.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
This is good Morning bat.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
Seven thirty seven on DOUBDBT Bowen Bethier on a Monday morning,
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(41:01):
five am watching the seventeenth segment, here we are and
people are like, well, their show's not on right now.
Exactly right, yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
That means that we're getting you, We're getting your day
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Speaker 5 (41:14):
That's exactly right. Truth social over the weekend, President Trump.
Here's one of them, the very wonderful and talented Laura Trump,
who show is a big grating success. Put racist sleeve bags.
Charlemagne the God? Why is he allowed to use the
word god when describing himself? Can anyone imagine the uproar
that would be there if I use that nickname. This
is Trump on truth Social He says he's a low

(41:36):
IQ individual, has no idea what words are coming out
of his mouth, and knows nothing about me or what
I have done, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. It's
a pretty lengthy post, but you may wonder. Okay, Charlemagne
the God, do you remember who this is? He surfaced
during the last campaign as saying some pretty positive things
about President Trump on his way to his second term.

(42:00):
His name is Leonard McKelvey. He's a co host of
a popular radio show called The Breakfast Club, which draws
about four million weekly listeners. He's African American and a
very influential guy. So Laura Trump on her Saturday night
Fox News show that Trump was referring to there and
you've probably heard of or seen before, had him on
as a guest this weekend.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Well, and I would imagine she had him on as
a guest originally thinking that this was going to be
a more positive interview about Donald Trump, given his more
positive comments as Trump was heading into his second second term.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
Yeah, so I read you a part of Trump's reaction
to it. You may have seen it and not seen
the segment and they wonder what happened in that segment.
Here is a clip.

Speaker 17 (42:42):
I would love to see John Stewart run in twold
if we're talking about like a change agent coming from
the outside that's really.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Going to shape things up, and somebody.

Speaker 17 (42:50):
That I feel I can speak to all people. Plus
we actually he's a celebrity who actually knowed what they're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
We've seen him get legislation.

Speaker 17 (42:59):
And stuff you know, passed before, Like we know where
his heart is. He'd be somebody i'd like to see
really getting the race and disrupt things in two thousand
and twenty eight. Well, maybe a John Stewart cobe a
ticket because you know, Cobert's not going to.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Have a job.

Speaker 17 (43:14):
He's not working because because of President Trump.

Speaker 15 (43:17):
So they say, well, people say different things. They can
also say he lost forty million dollars a year for CBS,
which is also a bit of a problem whenever you're
trying to have a successful show. If you had to
pick a Republican who might be able to earn your vote,
is there anyone you like that you would look at?

Speaker 2 (43:34):
I mean, I was in South Carolina. I was.

Speaker 17 (43:35):
I grew up in South Carolina under you know, somebody
like Nikki Haley, right, so I can see something like that.
I do think and this is I think that I
think that conservative, traditional conservatives are going to take the
Republican Party back. I think there's a political coop going
on right now in the Republican Party that people aren't

(43:58):
paying attention to. Oh yeah, I think that I think
that this, this Epstein thing is going to be a
way for traditional conservatives to take their party back.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I really do.

Speaker 17 (44:09):
I think that. I think that I think that they
know this is the issue that has gotten the base
routed up.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
The base.

Speaker 17 (44:17):
The magabase isn't letting this issue go, and for the
first time they know they can, you know, probably take
their party back and not piss off the magabase.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
I'm guessing that interview didn't go the way she thought
it was going to go.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
No, I think she wasn't expecting the conversation, especially with
that question. Her question was is there a Republican that
you would get behind in twenty twenty eight And that
question took him down the Epstein file conversation, which is
a conversation a lot of people in Trump's orbit. They
wanted to go away, and it keeps coming up, it

(44:50):
keeps coming back. I think because there were so many
people that campaigned on an issue like this, there are
so many people who believe that if there are people
on this list or who are part of the Epstein
files that are leaders within either party. I think that's
one of the signs that reminds people the people who
want to see things change. It reminds people that they

(45:12):
want that change. They want people who might be involved
in something as horrific as the Ebstein scenario, the Epstein
just scandal, they want those people away from leadership roles
no matter the party.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
I think now give Laura Trump credit for having him
on and having this conversation. My initial thought after watching
it was was this a taped interview or was this live?
The fact that they got into the subject matter they
did makes me think it must have been live. I
know that she has had some interviews on that show
on Saturday Night, namely with her father in law, which

(45:47):
was taped, and that time slot by virtue of it
being Saturday night, I think lends itself to taping some
things no matter who you are, But I don't know
the bottom line answer to that. But the second part
of this, and again they're talking about she asked him
to name me somebody from the Democratic Party and somebody
on the Republican side that you think will figure in
or maybe should should run or or could run for

(46:10):
the presidency next time around. He then started talking about,
you know, the way that Obama and Trump were phenomenons.

Speaker 15 (46:19):
I would say, you know, we've never seen a typical
election since the day that Donald Trump came down the
Golden escalator.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
So I don't know that.

Speaker 15 (46:28):
I don't know that we'll ever see another typical kind
of traditional election with traditional Republicans.

Speaker 11 (46:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (46:34):
I feel like things have changed, the game changed. And
to say that the old guard is going to kind
of come back, that's a lot.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
That's a big saying.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
That's the mistake. Republicans are going to be.

Speaker 17 (46:44):
Republics are going to make the same mistake that Democrats made.
And I'll tell you what I mean by that. Barack
Obama was a one of one, once in a lifetime,
you know, political jug or not. And since Barack Obama,
every Democrat has tried to be Barack Obama. You're not
rock it's going to be the same thing with Republicans,
say what you want. Donald Trump is a once in

(47:06):
a lifetime one on one political juggernaut. You're not going
to be Donald Trump. So if you think you're going
to be able to do what Donald Trump has done,
talk the way Donald Trump is talking, get away with
what Donald Trump's got away.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
With, it's not going to happen.

Speaker 17 (47:19):
So everybody, right now we have the opportunity to have
like a huge reset. I think you should blow it
all up. I think that people are really sick and
tired of what we present. We've been presented from both parties.
By the way, we knew this before the last election.
They were telling us that like seventy percent of people
did not want to see a rematch between Trump all by.
So it's just like, we know we want something different.

(47:41):
Everybody wants something different. So I think that if Democrats
keep doing the same old thing, they're gonna keep getting
the same results. And they Republicans, you know, think that
they can repeat what has been done and don't try
to give the people something new, they're going to get
the results they don't want.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Charle Man the God, who is also known as Leonard
McKelvey he's a radio host, and a very successful one
at that. And you may have heard some talk. You
may have heard or seen President Trump's reaction to the
discussion over the weekend. Thought what happened there? I think
the most interesting thing that happened there is that it
happened on Laura Trump's show.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Right, and it obviously triggered the President to start attacks
online of Charlemagne the God. So he obviously watched the
interview and listened to it in detail.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
All right, nine minutes in front of eight o'clock on Monday,
August fourth, both Thompson Beth Troutman here in the Tyboid studio.
Don't forget the text line Wide Open, driven by Liberty
Bewitt GMC. Also, don't forget Next Hour, part of Next Hour,
and the entire final Hour today Mick mulvaney and US
Senator Tom Tillis in studio. Lots to get to first though.

(48:59):
We even talking about this off and on the last
few weeks. You know, the occupancy rate in uptown Charlotte.
Why are people not going to uptown Charlotte for long
periods of time if you don't have a destination, it's
not the hoppin place that it was fifteen years ago,
and a lot of that has to do with COVID,
but then again some of it doesn't. But right now,

(49:19):
if you go into parts of uptown Charlotte, it's a
ghost town.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Right It feels the way, in my opinion, having grown
up here, it feels the way that uptown Charlotte felt
when it was downtown Charlotte and they were trying to
bring people in after five pm, it just felt empty.
You didn't go into uptown or back then downtown unless
you were working in that area, and it wasn't a destination.
That's why they built places like City Fair back in

(49:44):
the day, and the little mall that we talked about
last week.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Back when they built that secret mall.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
They built the secret mall that no one went to.
But here, here you go. A third restaurant in uptown
Charlotte has closed this month, y'all, this month alone, the
Bella Chow. If you are an Italian food lover, it's
an Italian American restaurant. It opened it uptown some years
ago and they posted a statement, it has been a

(50:10):
great pleasure to serve you. Over the course of the
last fourteen years first, as was it Vapiano? I feel
like I remember Vapiano asking, then as Bellachow, this was
a sign that was just basically left on the restaurant door.
And if you were wondering exactly where this restaurant is
two toh one South Tryon Street. So they basically closed

(50:30):
and people were surprised by the decision. And maybe people
were only going to restaurants like Bellichow when they were
going to Blumenthal, maybe to a show or to something
like that. But it got me thinking, and I sent
you this text over the weekend. What will it take
to get people back uptown? What would get people to

(50:53):
go back in the way that we revitalized uptown in
the early two thousands. How do we revide lies it again?
How do we get people going back? I mean, there
are some great restaurants up there. LaBelle Helene is one
of my favorite restaurants, and it's right there in uptown Charlotte.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
I remember what was the year Batman Versus Superman came out?
Was that like twenty sixteen ish or so?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I am the wrong person to ask.

Speaker 13 (51:17):
I know.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Here's the reason I say that is because that year
over my kids spring break, because they were off for
a week from Charlotte Mecklenburg, so we took I took
a couple of days off and we did a an
uptown Charlotte staycation fun and so we went and stayed
and I think the hotel has changed names a couple
of times.

Speaker 11 (51:38):
But you know the.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Pretty nice hotel that's on the back end of the
stretch where the arena is. I think it used to
be Hyatt House Aft now and like I said, it's
changed its name, and I don't know which one it.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Were, Grand Bahamian, Bohemian.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
I think it was called Hyatt House when we stayed there.

Speaker 8 (51:55):
I know which. It's connected to Spectrum Center.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
And it's a nice place. So we went and stayed there.
It has a pool on the like halfway up, so
I mean the kids had fun staying there. We went
and stayed there, and then we went and saw a
movie at the Epicenter, and we went and bowled at
the Epicenter, and we went to a restaurant and they
had a yoga. So my point is we made two
or three days out of staying in uptown Charlotte. Now,

(52:17):
when you say, what's it going to take you to
get you back to uptown Charlotte. That question can go
in two different ways. It can g what's what's something
that will get you back to uptown Charlotte in a
spot sense, like to go see something? Yeah, but what
about something that would get you to just go to
uptown Charlotte and do all there is to do?

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I will, I will tell you one thing that might
get me to go there more. You need to make
parking easier and cheaper, because if I go and spend
thirty dollars to park in order to have a two
hour meal, I mean, oftentimes my parking could be more
expensive than my meal. If I'm just going, you know,
solo for a girl's night or something and buying just

(52:55):
my meal, my parking would be more expensive than the
meal itself. I think that is one of the big
the biggest rackets in the world for you to charge
me thirty dollars to park in a parking space.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Or if the business climate has become such that a
lot of these places won't validate your parketing.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
They don't validate at all, or they give you a
validated like but it only took thirty minutes of the
parking off, And how you can't do anything in thirty minutes.
I can't get out of the parking deck in thirty minutes.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
Yeah, you can't. You absolutely can't be in the mode of, oh,
let's just see what there is to do up here,
because you're thinking about your parking meter ticking down right.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Yes, And that's if you're lucky enough to get one
of the parking spots on the road that you can
get a metered parking space. The parking decks are ridiculous.
I mean even at lunch time, I went up and
met my brother. I've told this story. I went to
meet him for lunch in uptown lunch in uptown Charlotte,
and I paid twenty six dollars to park for lunch

(53:55):
and I was only there like an hour and a half.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
Did you go uptown downtown or Center City?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I was?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I was, I was, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
I was.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
It was uptown, but kind of to the west, the west?
Would it be the west? Is it the west?

Speaker 5 (54:08):
I told you that time that one year, like fifteen
or so years ago, where they just couldn't figure it out,
so they did the the New Year's Eve celebration, the
uptown downtown countdown.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yeah, I think they're going to have to bring stuff
like that back.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
But I think I'm sorry. The uptown downtown countdown in
Center City, that's pretty much the way it goes. But
Beth's ian. The question is, is right there in front
of you, what would it take to get you back
up there or down there or in the center.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Right uptown downtown, Center City.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
Seven three parking.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Exactly what I just said, Mark, did you it's too
expensive to part?

Speaker 8 (54:45):
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Yes, I'm gonna go one step further, free everything.

Speaker 8 (54:49):
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grass birds terminate easy from.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
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Speaker 8 (55:00):
You know I didn't know you could smoke on stage.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
You can't use cigarette.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
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Speaker 13 (55:11):
It's Bobs.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
You will all come on about this town.

Speaker 18 (55:13):
Swedish the boys then oh wow, And I don't know why,
And I'll take me downtown.

Speaker 13 (55:19):
I ain't got anywhere out of meat.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
The go down round like at the towns uptown time
only count on you cancelations Center City.

Speaker 13 (55:31):
She be counting on you about my dog and she.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
Forget about how we been around. I don't know why
it don't take me downtown anymore.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
Yeah, seven oh four five seven oh eleven ten. Why
don't you go to uptown downtown Center City Charlotte anymore.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
We were talking about this because another restaurant, the third
restaurant this month in uptown Charlotte closed Bella Chow has
closed its doors after basically serving for fourteen years in
the downtown area, and we were it made me wonder,
why what would he take? What would it take to
get people uptown? I said, I'm sorry, if you could
get me in there and let me park somewhere and

(56:08):
not pay thirty dollars to park.

Speaker 7 (56:10):
The answer is you have to live there first.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, right, I walk to it, pay for a place
to live in order to park there. But we've been
getting so many messages on our tech line seven O
four five seven oho eleven ten, driven by Liberty Buick GMC.
This one is really telling, he says, Hi, this is Chris.
My daughter is a college student and she works at
a catering company. This summer, her company had an uptown

(56:33):
event that she worked and she and other employees had
to pay for their own parking. She only had an
eight hour shift, and basically the money that she earned
for at least two of those hours went straight to
pay for her parking.

Speaker 7 (56:47):
I had Panthers practice. They have is parking a lot
this year because of the way training camp is, and
they had media lots before. Best stuff keeps getting taken away.
But anyway, they'll do a voucher like some restaurants, what
do they give us a parking by cher to get
out of there? And I happened to miss the boutcher
thing and I forgot to get one after the fact.
I was actually doing a radio hit on the phone
with Wfenz, so I missed that moment and I didn't

(57:09):
get it. Anyways, twenty eight dollars mistake put to Panthers
practice on a weekday morning, twenty eight dollars for being there.
I'm going to say I was there two hours.

Speaker 9 (57:18):
I had to have a parking spot for my last job,
and I worked uptown and it was two hundred and
twenty dollars a month, and you had They didn't pay
for that with your paycheck. They didn't give you a
stipend or anything like that was out of whatever you
got paid and that's I mean, that's a lot when
you're not making anything.

Speaker 8 (57:35):
I mean, two hundred twenty dollars is an extra, you know,
it's an extra utility bills.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
And then some it's like a terriff. Exactly, it's a terriff.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
I mean, Bernie, when I lived close to uptown, I
lived Actually it's not really close uptown, but down at
the Arboretum back in that point.

Speaker 11 (57:49):
It's not even no, not at all. Actually it's not
close at all.

Speaker 8 (57:52):
That's just minutes roupt down.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
That's barely Charlotte when I.

Speaker 7 (57:57):
Look at Waxaw at that point.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
When I lived at the Arboretum Bernie in the early
two thousands, my rent was only five hundred and thirty
five dollars, and that included a bathroom and a bedroom
in like two closets and a kitchen and a walk.

Speaker 7 (58:07):
Here right now, it would take me forty five minutes
to get the Arboretums.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
I mean, as anybody knows, the Arboretum practically is uptown.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I was just trying to point out that my rent
was almost the same price as his. His parking spot.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
It didn't go well, didn't go well, Spencer says. Parking
park at Woodlawn Station and ride the Blue Line to downtown.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 7 (58:29):
I mean ride the train in specifically the Woodlatn Station
or any of the other ones.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
Ride the train from the Arboretum to Now there is
a you I love the one you read about his daughter.
It basically was by working uptown, the money that she
made she had to use to pay for parking. So
it's kind of what's the point, right, It.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Was like a wash. She basically hardly didn't make enough
money to hardly pay for the parking.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
There is a bit of a theme in many of
these responses. At seven oh four to five seven oh
eleven ten a text line driven by Liberty Buick GMC,
this person says police presence in Charlotte gott to lower
the crime. Joe from men Hill, there needs to be
a change in crime and safety for families, especially in
the public transportation venue. We don't feel like we can
travel within the city safely with our family, especially with

(59:18):
smaller children. Here's another one, get rid of crime. Here's
another one. Not hard to figure out crime. No one
wants to get robbed, stabbed, or shot. Ask your own
Brett Jansen Jensen about the crime I'm just reading what
it says, ask your own Brett Jansen about the crime numbers.

(59:39):
Crime has had an absolute effect on restaurants and some
of the other areas.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
I love this one for Mike because he's right. We
had in our young world, in our young lives, back
when I lived in New Yorktown at the Arbury, the
Epicenter in nightlife. Hop skipping a jump, just a hop
skipping a jump. But nightlife was a thing back when
we we're in our twenties. People went uptown to you'd
go to restaurants and then you'd go hang out at

(01:00:05):
little bars like Dixie's or Hey Beth.

Speaker 8 (01:00:07):
Believe it or not, I celebrated my twenty first birthday
uptown in uptown.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Wasn't that long ago, well, Mike says, able bre not
that long ago, long ago, but.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
Good morning, humble baby.

Speaker 7 (01:00:20):
I'm a young man, actually over a decade ago, so
I'm a young boy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
But Mike says, after the Epicenter closed, there was no
single hub for nightlife that paired with the almost constant
safety and crime issue in Charlotte, it has really hurt
any kind of nightlife in Charlotte. I recently had to
stay in uptown Charlotte. And by the way, it was
like forty eight dollars to stay in a hotel in
uptown Charlotte. I mean forty eight.

Speaker 8 (01:00:45):
Oh wow, that's really affordable. Did you say that?

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
Eight dollars whole adventure?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
What aal?

Speaker 8 (01:00:52):
Just sleep in your car?

Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
You look at a hostel.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
I misspoke. It was forty eight dollars to park in
order to stay at an hotel in uptown Charlotte. See,
the hotel was incredibly expensive, but I didn't get a
wink of sleep because they you know how there are
all these stories about all of the hot rodders who
were in uptown Charlotte and.

Speaker 8 (01:01:12):
Late street takeovers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Yes, and it was so loud for like three hours,
and I kept thinking, like, who's going to come and
break this up? I almost went out in my night
galon and tried to break up the mess myself.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
And then they're I'm glad you did muscle well Right
right on, cue, Scott says, I work uptown smells like urine.

Speaker 8 (01:01:33):
It oh, perfectly sound.

Speaker 7 (01:01:40):
Do you have to watch your step? Like if you're
in a parking deck and you're walking the stairs, you
got to kind of yeah, watch what you're stepping in.

Speaker 9 (01:01:45):
Anytime you walk into a stairwell at a parking deck here,
you're gonna get.

Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
You get that smell of skunk. I don't know what
that skunky smell is everywhere, but that skunky smell is ever.
I don't know what that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Will say there. There's a lot of weed and a
lot of urine uptown. That just came right out with well,
because we all know.

Speaker 6 (01:01:58):
What it is.

Speaker 7 (01:02:02):
Yeah, an empty bottle of malt liquor.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
Smells so bad near the Arboreta.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
This is good morning, beaty light so much brighter.

Speaker 18 (01:02:11):
You can't forgettle your drugs forget or your cares. Golf
were lights a right waiting for you tonight, all right?

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
One of the selections played by the Amity High School
Band in Jaws Too, this song Aren't you glad you
have me to tell you these things?

Speaker 13 (01:02:37):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
Well, we're talking about uptown, downtown center City. What would
it take to get you to go there? Because not
enough people are going, and when they go it's just
for spot things like a panther's game or a show.
But it's not like it was fifteen years ago when
people many people would live there, they'd do all of
their daily activities there, and now yet another restaurant is closing.

(01:03:02):
We've been sort of talking about all these closings over
the last several weeks. And what's it called the bella Bellichow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Yes, it's the third restaurant to close this month in
uptown Charlotte. And I've actually I've been to Bellichow and
it was for exactly the reason you were saying. I
was uptown for a show at Blumenthal and went to
Bellichow before the actual show. But what would it take
to get people just to spend time in uptown Charlotte
the way that we all used to the way that
we did in the early two thousands when I lived

(01:03:29):
so close to uptown in the Arboretum.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
The walkable area. Let's see here, Mike says, on that
skunky smell you were talking about. Why, Well, okay, Ja,
I'm not gonna go that far. I can remember when
you said you were from Gastonia, Folks around Charlotte would
look at you and say, oh wow, you made it
out of there to Charlotte. I'm not trying to take
shots at Gastonia here. We're just talking about uptown Charlotte.

(01:03:54):
Even people from Gastonia. You know, Uptown Charlotte's got a
draw from everywhere. Even Troutman.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Well, money money Fox Matt. That's how he told us
to call him. Money Fox Matt said, I punched in
uptown Charlotte into my GPS, and the travel Time said,
are you sure? He said, I went anyway. I took
a walk around uptown, and my Apple Watch preemptively started
a police report.

Speaker 11 (01:04:17):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
I think that that's the thing that people are saying
more and more is that they don't feel safe uptown
Charlotte anymore. And that's one of the biggest reasons they
don't spend time, especially if they're going up for you know,
with their family.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Well, we've gotten I don't know, probably thirty forty texts
in the last thirty minutes about this very subject. And
out of those forty or so, i'd say probably seventy
five percent of them, if not eighty, where about crime
saying I don't I don't feel comfortable taking my family uptown.
And this is not that far removed from I don't know,
the DNC and uptown. It's not that far removed from

(01:04:49):
the NBA All Star Game. There was a number of
things in recent years that brought a lot of people in.
But I think you probably have to go back to COVID.
Is the delineation point as to when the ex it
has started, But the question is and we've talked to
Anapatetel in recent days about occupancy, and he was talking
about how his three hotel chain actually used the pandemic

(01:05:09):
to sort of refurbish and get ready, but they still
don't have as many people as they need in the
permanent occupancy spots.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Well, Russ sent us a message to Mark Garrison's point.
I kind of made this point as well. He said
I'd change pricing and parking and overall convenience of Uptown Charlotte.
He says, there are better options all around our area food, entertainment,
and services, but everything charges more in uptown. We had
a barber we loved, we went there for the arena location,

(01:05:36):
but prices went up fifty percent and parking went up
so much that it's not as easy navigating the area.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Here's one more from Sheldon, who says the homeless have
become way too aggressive in Uptown Charlotte. It's one thing
to get into that discussion about how many people you
see around the area, but the fact that some of
them and he's not wrong, I mean there's some Their
intersection is now where it used to be people would

(01:06:02):
stand on the median, and now more often than not,
you're seeing people that aren't afraid to go walk out
into traffic. That's an issue too. But all of these
are issues which we will get back to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
And you know what, I'm so glad that you read
Sheldon's comment last, because Sheldon has been very excited about
what's coming next. What's coming up next on our show,
and that is Senator Tom Tillis along with our Mick
mulvaney for a full hour and a half here on
Good Morning BT.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
I know this because I'm looking at both of them
right now. Senator Tillis is very wide eyed, like what
have I gotten myself into here? Mulvaney and Tillis in
studio coming up next hour, actually next half hour and
a half. All the way till ten am my best.

Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
To get back to you.

Speaker 13 (01:06:51):
Look for me Sunday going to be there.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Honey's some special chosho yoes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
See hear what they said there too for you, not
just Mick Mulvaney. Today, we have former white House Chief
of Staff McK mlvaney, as we do most Mondays, but
sitting next to him, both of them in studio, US
Senator Tom Tillis is here. Welcome back.

Speaker 11 (01:07:15):
It's great to be back. Sis can mix. This is
gonna be like Superman versus Batman.

Speaker 13 (01:07:19):
I have no idea what this is going to be.
None who was glad? I hydrated for this?

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
Well, we've been talking about doing this for a while
and we found out both of you all were game.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
For it, and we in that sentence you mentioned it
to me for the first time last Monday, we had
oh you two, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Yeah, we've been we've been planning and plotting.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
And then and then we realized there was some back
and forth going on texting a week ago, and we said, okay,
now we got to harness this, and and here we are.
I actually, uh thought in the back of my mind
going into the weekend that maybe you might get stuck
in DC for a few more days because you were
there until Saturday night, right.

Speaker 11 (01:07:52):
Yeah, I got home yesterday afternoon, and.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
Uh, and and how close were were things to getting extended?
Do you think we had a deal that we thought
that was.

Speaker 10 (01:08:02):
Going to get done between the Democrats and the White House.
But it fell apart at the eleventh hours. So we
got a few more done and then we're going to
come back and continue nimes when we return after Labor Day.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
And so you're on you're on recess for for a month?

Speaker 18 (01:08:14):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 13 (01:08:15):
Yep? Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
And so when you go into recess mode is the
first thing you usually do, you know, come over to
the fifty thousand what blowtorch and have a conversation or
how's that usually go?

Speaker 10 (01:08:26):
Well, of course, no, I'm actually looking forward to it.
I had my staff say there were there was almost
a deal killer. You should know this because when I
looked at my calendar and I just saw Bo and
Mick and I didn't think Beth was going to be here.

Speaker 11 (01:08:39):
That could have been a deal killer. I'm not I'm serious.
It's wait a minute, for me, not going to happen.

Speaker 13 (01:08:44):
It would be for me as well.

Speaker 11 (01:08:46):
Yeah, yeah, he doesn't come here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Find if it's just making now you guys lovely well
tell me, Senator. As deals fall apart like this one
did at the eleventh hour, what happens in that Senate chamber?
Is there an audible like h is there what do
people go into backroom offices and start having conversations, How
does the process work to try to come back together
and what actually happened.

Speaker 11 (01:09:08):
There were a lot of.

Speaker 10 (01:09:09):
Efforts to h and we're going to work on maybe
a deal sometime in September to accelerate. Look, even the
Democrats realize that if you go back and take a
look at the noms that we did over the past
couple of weeks.

Speaker 11 (01:09:20):
I know everybody's lathered up.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Over it, but really the.

Speaker 10 (01:09:25):
Legal counsel to advocacy for the small business administration, I
don't think that's going to stop Ukraine War anything anytime soon.
I think that we have to realize there are cabinet
sub cabinet roles that we should absolutely press on the
other ones.

Speaker 11 (01:09:39):
We should get.

Speaker 10 (01:09:40):
Smart, get a package, and frankly, get to a point
where about four or five hundred of them we're not
even doing like we do normal confirmations because both Republicans
and Democrats have used it to grind the chamber down.

Speaker 11 (01:09:52):
So hopefully we'll get back and get smart on it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
And that's the key part, by the way, because it's
both Republicans and Democrats, it's just leverage is all that
it is. It's not advice and consent, vice a consent
for the big names, the ones that we all know.
Everything else, it's delay and extort. I'll tell you a
story off the air, because I'm pretty sure it would
send somebody to jail. But I got shook down by
a Republican senator for money for a nominee vote.

Speaker 13 (01:10:15):
Wow, look that's dead now, So they're probably not going
to jail now.

Speaker 11 (01:10:19):
Number one, Well, narrows down the possible A lot happen there.
I can get that. I get that would identified segment.

Speaker 13 (01:10:26):
It doesn't really limited in the Senate though, does it.

Speaker 10 (01:10:29):
No, Like at the end of the day, there's twelve
hundred noms they go before a Senate, there should probably
be about seven hundred the other ones.

Speaker 11 (01:10:36):
We should come up with some way to defer the administration.

Speaker 10 (01:10:39):
Look, they're they're down in the in the weeds and
the plumbing and they're and they're clogging up the plumbing
of the US Senate.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
Well, you know, there's a lot that has been said
about these What happens if these appointments keep lingering there?
You said over the weekend that you would not go
the nuclear route for this, and we hear about recess appointments,
and that's been something that's been talked about a good
bit since President Trump took office for a second time.
But when there are I mean, I think some people

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might be surprised to even know there are so many lingering,
unconfirmed positions out there. But are there ones that you
think that are hugely important ones or how does it
break down?

Speaker 13 (01:11:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:11:17):
Well, well, first off, we have to understand most of
these positions, if they're really important, can have acting members.
They have some limits, but to a large extent, they
can get a lot of things done. So it's not
like that job's not being done. It's just you carry
a little bit more weight if you've been sent confirmed.
But you know, I actually offered to be to support

(01:11:38):
a package for recess appointments. I was not willing to
let the administration just do all recess appointments, but I
was a part of the negotiations to say, yeah, we'll
get up to one hundred and sixty. We'll let the
president define exactly what they are. We'll go out of
here if they stay within those meats and bounds. We'll
use that as a lever to get the Democrats to
the table. I'm still open to doing that. You know,

(01:12:00):
Spare me Republicans saying that this is unprecedented. It's only
unprecedented in this Congress because it was the same thing
we did a couple of congress as ago. So let's
just be honest with the American people, negotiate a deal,
get moving, and get to the real work. Nams are
not going to make or break us very important legislation
on the economy.

Speaker 13 (01:12:20):
A number of other things could, and they take time
away from judges as well.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
PERCENT big story over the weekend about the Bureau of
Labor Statistics commissioner that got fired by President Trump after
the job numbers came out on Friday, and I want
to talk about the background of this. Senator Tillisa, you
had to comment, I'll read this as we're going to
break and then we'll come back and talk about it.

(01:12:44):
But you said if she was fired because the president
or whoever decided to fire the director just did it
because they didn't like the numbers, then they ought to
grow up. And that line to grow up part Now
you've seen that several places over the weekend. But this
whole idea that President and fired her because he didn't
like what he what he heard the numbers to be.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
So clearly you were watching my CNBC and of you
before I came on here this morning. I do, I
do all kinds of I'm sure it's on the TV
above my head right now.

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
Yeah, okay, I'm pulled over the side of the road.

Speaker 13 (01:13:12):
Thank you. You know I believe you. It's him I
worry about. Yeah you?

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
Who are you again?

Speaker 6 (01:13:18):
This is Good Morning Beat with Bo Thompson and Beth Troutman.

Speaker 13 (01:13:24):
Come, how come she you get top Billy on the
Good Morning BT.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
This is a Good Morning Bet with Senator Tom Tillis
and Nick mulvaney and.

Speaker 13 (01:13:35):
And Beth and Beth Troutman. Beth, have you ever noticed
that it's always Bo Thompson and Beth Troup.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Well, I did kind of come in on a show
that already existed. It was called the Bo Thompson Morning
Show or yeah yeah, but he in his good graces.
I mean when he brought me in, he was like,
we're not going to call this the Bo Thompson Morning
Show with Beth Troutman. It was his idea to.

Speaker 6 (01:13:55):
Change the show.

Speaker 13 (01:13:56):
I thought, what was what was that before this?

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
It is what was here it is. It wants to be.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
Welcome back. We have a Beth, and we have Senator Tillis,
and we have Mick mulvaney, and we have met in
the Tyboid studio and in fact they're gracious enough to
join us for an hour and a half today. So
we got these guys until ten and a lot to
talk about. I mentioned going into the last break, the
big story this weekend, or probably the biggest, the most

(01:14:24):
talked about story out of DC, was the fact that
President Trump fired the commissioner of the Bureau of Labor
Statistics after the agency reported that the economy added just
seventy three thousand jobs in July, also released downward revisions
of jobs data from May and June, and President Trump
took the truth social and eventually fired her. And so

(01:14:47):
here we are, and I got to get I know
that Senator Tillis made a comment over the weekend that
I alluded to during the break, But now that you
all are here and we can kind of flesh this
out a bit more, what about this over the weekend?

Speaker 11 (01:15:00):
Yeah, let's start with a quote. What I actually said.
You're right about the second half.

Speaker 10 (01:15:05):
What I said was if the President has been presented
with information that makes it clear that she fail to
do her job, that the methodology whatever issues to come
up with the BLS reports.

Speaker 11 (01:15:17):
Of course he should fire. But if he fired her
just because he didn't like the result, that's childish and whatever.
The president very seldom makes a decision on his own.

Speaker 10 (01:15:26):
He's usually either has an idea he asked people if
they agree with them, or people continue to or give
them a good idea. I think that again, if we
proved that the method was wrong, that they were overseeing
a process that didn't have validity, you get rid of them.
But if you fired them just because you got to
dip in jobs, that's childish and it's a distraction, and
it discredits a very important agency. For statistics, this isn't

(01:15:51):
just something that the president looks at. It's something that
every person in business looks at and makes decisions around.
We can't undermind data coming out of what we consider
be gold stated for analysis.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Well, I thought that this was an interesting political move
because even politically, if they do find out that things
were done poorly or not done well, and she was
fired for cause, but if they put someone else in
place and suddenly there are great jobs numbers they've given
opponents of Donald Trump.

Speaker 11 (01:16:18):
Yeah, that's exactly right. You want to talk to kick
in the books.

Speaker 10 (01:16:20):
I mean, look, the reason why China's economy, China's employment,
everything looks rosy is because Shijingping controls the information that
comes out.

Speaker 11 (01:16:30):
We live up to a higher standard.

Speaker 10 (01:16:32):
We need to continue to even though even sometimes we
don't like the result or it undermines our credibility.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
I'm all for the integrity of the data, of the
credibility of the institutions, and so forth, but let's be honest,
we haven't had that now. J. Powell went on National
Television International Television on Wednesday of last week and said, well,
the job market looks great. Therefore we're thinking about not
lowering rates. He was relying on bad data. The BLS
was putting out really bad data. I get to the

(01:17:01):
point about explaining why that is and so forth. Sometimes
you just somebody has to be accountable, some that you know,
you can't fire the whole thing, So let's.

Speaker 13 (01:17:07):
Fire the coach.

Speaker 10 (01:17:08):
But let's use this moment like anytime I fire somebody
for cause, to document the cost and bad data, bad analytics,
bad process are great reasons to get rid of somebody
that you trust to lead an analytics organization.

Speaker 11 (01:17:22):
But let's not walk away from it.

Speaker 10 (01:17:23):
Let's do the after action to point to exactly why
we think the information was flawed, so that we don't
repeat the mistake.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
They're still getting data on facsimiles. I was going to ask,
let's talk about the still get through the mail well, and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
It's surveys, right, the data comes from interviewing employers and
employees and then.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Business still out right, sort of like I'm going to oversimplified,
but it sort of like the old what was the
system you used to use for what television stations you
were watching?

Speaker 13 (01:17:50):
Nielsen Neielsen, filling your book and stuff like that. It's
similar to that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
So it's antiquated in the way that the information gets
too and it does a.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
Terrible job of counting new jobs and old jobs, new businesses,
old businesses. I get that, But this was the largest
downward revision since other than COVID, which is a different
its own outlier since nineteen seventy nine. Ordinarily revisions are
we had one hundred thousand jobs last month. No, it
was revised down to ninety or up to one hundred
and ten. We lost a quarter of a million jobs

(01:18:19):
in this report over the course of the last two one.

Speaker 10 (01:18:21):
But the reason why we've got a look at the methodology, folks,
is we've also had an unprecedented series of tariffs going
in that change uncertain that change certainty and certainty causes
businesses to.

Speaker 11 (01:18:33):
Pull back on employment.

Speaker 10 (01:18:35):
They've got to prepare for potential costs that they can't control,
so you get rid of the ones that you can,
Which is why I continue to be the nerdy old
data guys saying, show me the data and you got me.
Don't show me the rhetoric that doesn't impress me.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
I don't get the I don't see how I'm trying
to walk this through in my head that Trump is
accusing her of manipulating the data in the past in
order to hurt him politically, because I'm thinking, okay, is
are people in Washington capable of doing that? Absolutely, there
are people in Washington who believe the end justified the means.
But I aggressed to making Trump look bad. However, if

(01:19:09):
I was running these numbers and I wanted to make
the president look bad, I would not have put out
great job numbers in May and June and then rise
them down.

Speaker 13 (01:19:18):
I just would have put out the bad numbers to
begin with.

Speaker 10 (01:19:20):
And I also would put out numbers that will probably
drive the FED rate cut that the president wants.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
Well, and I saw an interview over the weekend with
Bill Beach, who was the previous commissioner that President Trump appointed.
The one that was fired by Trump over the weekend
was appointed by Biden. There's my understanding. But he Beach
said that his job as the commissioner was simply to
be the messenger of here's what it is. He didn't

(01:19:48):
have anything to do with the collection or the overseeing
of what happened to get there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
But that goes to my point about accountability. Okay, somebody
is I mean, I don't. I was on the Financial
Services Committee. We had oversight over Treasury had we didn't
have much overset over BLS, but we used a lot
of BLS numbers. I never remember anybody from the Obama administration.
I remember it from the Trump administration going down to
Congress saying we need to change the system. Someone has
to be responsible for it. And if it's not the

(01:20:13):
person in charge of BLS, then who is it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:20:16):
Last footnote on the Biden the Biden nominee.

Speaker 10 (01:20:19):
Keep in mind that this person had been in analytics
roles for almost the entire of her career in the
US government, had been playing a role since I think
about two thousand and eight and before that. So she's
not like a political hack that came from the DNC
and I put in the BLS.

Speaker 11 (01:20:35):
Let's just look at the data. Though I'm not defense,
I'm not four against it.

Speaker 10 (01:20:39):
I'm just all about let's let's understand the reason for
cause for the termination.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Well and to that point with the data, and this
came from Commission Commissioner Beach as well, that it's it's
commonplace to revise over a two month period the numbers
that came out because of the outliers, you know, the
people who don't get those Like you said, it's an
antiquated system, Mick, But to to get that information back
in and the more information that comes in, the more

(01:21:03):
accurate the numbers.

Speaker 13 (01:21:04):
Visions are normal. Revisions are normal.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
There's no question about revisions of this size is once
in a fifty year event.

Speaker 11 (01:21:10):
But guys, keep in mind again, timeline the revisions.

Speaker 10 (01:21:13):
When you're talking about jobs forecasts over the last two months,
look at what's happened over the last two months, unprecedented
uncertainty in the trade space. Businesses are going to react
to uncertainty by pulling in the costs that they think
they could have easily set them an employ this many
people sixty days ago. Now they think a terror for
a major supplying countries in play.

Speaker 11 (01:21:32):
I got to pull back.

Speaker 10 (01:21:33):
So there may be some rationale there, or there could
be a pure political motivation.

Speaker 11 (01:21:37):
Let's just get to the facts.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
Last time Senator Tillis was on with us by a
phone about three weeks ago, the last thing you said
to us was release the damn files. I think you
know what we're talking about there. Also, the Senator has
been in the news in the last month for a
variety of reasons. We'll talk about the race that now
is setting up after he vacates. Michael Wattley announced that

(01:22:00):
last week. Roy Cooper announced last week lots to get
to with Mick mulvaney and Senator Tom till Us here
in the ty Boyds studio. Stay with us, all right, lady.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
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Speaker 13 (01:22:13):
Strange things are a foot at the circle case.

Speaker 6 (01:22:16):
This is Good Morning Beat with Bo Thompson and Beth
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Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
Monday morning, first Monday in August. Both Thompson, Beth Troutman
Mick mulvaney, former White House Chief of Staff among many
things you see him on News Nation and added to
the mix today. We're happy to have US Senator Tom Tillis,
So we have a former White House Chief of Staff
and we have a current US Senator in studio for

(01:22:50):
the rest of the show, the rest of the hour.
We appreciate both of you all being here.

Speaker 10 (01:22:54):
You know, we were talking about Pat McCrory during the
break and I could have sworn we just heard a
segment from the Food Food Dolls.

Speaker 11 (01:23:05):
Ah, Yes, the.

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
Famous Foo Fighters, the fo Foo Fighters, as he said
back in the day, I.

Speaker 11 (01:23:11):
Thought it was a Goog Fighters. Is the Goog Fighters dolls?

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Now, before the before the actual break, we were talking
about the jobs numbers the economy, and Senator Tillis you
were saying that the jobs numbers could be impacted by
what's going on with tariffs right now, and one of
the one of the fascinating set of tariffs over the
weekend that had a lot of people raising eyebrows. The
fifty percent tariff on Brazil. Now, we actually have a

(01:23:41):
trade surplus with Brazil, not a trade deficit with Brazil.
But this has more to do with politics and their
legal system. This was just one of the headlines from
over the weekend. Trump hits Brazilian products with fifty percent
tariff over Bulsonaro, which is their former president who was
convicted of trying to overthrow the government of a coup.

Speaker 11 (01:24:05):
Yeah, I think it's a mistake.

Speaker 10 (01:24:06):
I was a business advisor most of my career, and
the tariffs that we're going through, I could see an
argument for many of them when we have a trade
deficit with several countries, but not a country that we
have a trade surplus with, and a tariff that's applied
that has nothing to.

Speaker 11 (01:24:23):
Do with our trade relationship.

Speaker 10 (01:24:25):
Look, we have imposed the United States has imposed a
fifty percent tariff on a country, saying unless you reverse
a judicial decision in a sovereign nation, then you get
this tariff. So if I'm a business advisor, I'm saying,
on the one end, we're getting these tariffs squared away
around the world. But on the other hand, the president,
if he gets angry about something not even related to

(01:24:47):
the business relationship, he may slap.

Speaker 11 (01:24:49):
A tariff on you.

Speaker 10 (01:24:50):
It's very difficult for businesses to go to navigate through that.
I actually met with members of the Brazilian centate in
my office last week, someone who's a person friend and
a party of the party of the president in question here,
and he said, look, we're working through the courts to
reverse this decision, but let us do it according to
our court system and the laws. Don't think that we

(01:25:12):
can possibly just arbitrarily reverse a decision, or they will
do serious damage to their reputation worldwide because it means
that their rule of law doesn't mean anything if you've
got somebody who disagrees with it from the outside.

Speaker 13 (01:25:25):
A couple different look at it from two perspectives.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
Number One, American governments have done this all the time,
just not as blatantly as Donald Trump is doing it.
I remember very vividly learning when I was in Rome
for the first time fifteen years ago from the leaders
of the Sub Saharan African nations that the Obama administration
was withholding their foreign aid until they change their laws
on gay marriage and abortion. These are Christians, great e

(01:25:50):
Muslim nations, whatever. And the obamadministration will say, look, I
know Congress told us we have to give you this money,
but we aren't going to do it unless you change
your local laws. So again there's precedent of some fashion.
I think Trump made a mistake here because I think
this is one of the times he's trying to evoke
his emergency power under APA, the emergency the trade expansion stuff.
And you can't say I'm doing it because I don't

(01:26:12):
like a decision that you've made locally, and then try
to create an emergency. I think they'll end up shooting
themselves in the foot in court. And I don't know
if this one's going to hold up or not well.

Speaker 10 (01:26:20):
And I think it also underminds the president's credibility when
he is rightfully going after countries with tariffs too. So
let's stay on the positive and not have these distractions
undermind what he's trying to do.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
Yeah, because what will happen now is that someone who's
suing to try and prevent the law the tariffs against say,
I don't pick a number in Japan. I was going
to say well, you know what, we think this was
done for a non emergency reason. We think this was
done for an inappropriate reason, just like Trump did in Brazil.
So you have to sort of defend your actions. That
makes it more difficult to defend the tariffs in court.

(01:26:51):
So I think the Trump team has opened themselves up
to some criticisms because of how they've handled the Brazil situation.

Speaker 10 (01:26:56):
I don't want to fillibuster too much, but that's the team,
is what I'm talking about. Anybody who knows the trade
space should have advised the president this is not a
good idea for the bigger picture priority that he has
that I agree with.

Speaker 13 (01:27:09):
I want to do it due to two thirty two.

Speaker 11 (01:27:11):
Just do it properly one hundred percent.

Speaker 10 (01:27:13):
His staff need to play up because they're not giving
them good advice in the space.

Speaker 5 (01:27:17):
US Senator Tom Tillis and Mick mulvaney, former White House
Chief of Staff and South Carolina congressman White House Budget Director,
and I want to get to the experience that's been
the last month for you, Senator Tillis, because when we
had you on the phone a few weeks ago, it
was the first radio interview you'd done since you decided
that you were not going to run for another term,
And of course what preceded that was the vote on

(01:27:39):
the big beautiful bill and dust up between you and
President Trump, and we know how that all went. Now
that you've had a few weeks to sort of get
used to the idea that, Okay, I made the decision
I'm not going to run again. Now you have a
new campaign to fill the seat that's formed around you
last week, as we saw Wattlee and Roy Cooper, among others.
But now that you've had a few weeks to just

(01:28:00):
all of this, where's your mind right now?

Speaker 10 (01:28:03):
I'm actually very much at peace with my decision. But
it's been reported differently. But let me just give you
thirty seconds on the play by play. President called me
after I cast my vote, wanted me to change my vote. Said,
I'm not going to change it, mister President, but you've won.
I'll go work on it in the House. I'll be
quiet about my opposition to this bill, but I feel
very strongly it's going to be a huge impact on

(01:28:25):
North Carolina. I said, But that's how we'll end it,
and we'll move on from there. About ten minutes later,
I get my first ever. Know, it wasn't really that
bad in the scheme of things truth social posts which
I still haven't read, but I heard that my staff
told me the first line, and so I went back
to the President and said, now it's a good time
to find my replacement. And it was about ten minutes

(01:28:47):
later that the President said he's going to be looking
for for interviews for the primary. I made it very
clear to the President I was done because I wanted
to be in a position to remove any doubt that
my focus on getting Medicare, Medicaid right, a number of
other policies right have nothing to do with political considerations anymore.

(01:29:08):
Now we got to work on replacing someone. So how
my last couple of weeks been. I feel fifteen years younger.
I'm going to be focused on making this president successful,
and I'm going to go after every advisor and his
administration who I think are undermining his legacy.

Speaker 5 (01:29:22):
Now, when you said you didn't you didn't finish reading it,
because that because you can imagine what it was, what
it said.

Speaker 10 (01:29:27):
Or it just like that, I mean, you got to
keep in mind this guy that this president has criticized
people's wives, He said awful things about I get to
lose her several times. You know, he's called him lou
All he did was say I was grand standing, So
in the in the order of things, it was probably
just a compliment.

Speaker 11 (01:29:44):
I didn't realize it.

Speaker 10 (01:29:46):
But the reality is, I don't take a flex from
anybody when I have a disagreement that I think's founded
in facts. I don't care if you're the guy that
I tore up at the Reagan National Airport about two
months ago, or the president of the United States, you
treat me with respect or you get what you get.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Well, I'll tell you. He has gone after someone else
on truth Social over the weekend. It was Charlemagne the
God after an interview with his daughter in law Laura Trump.
And I think we'll get to that after the break
because that's his latest lowest IQ individual in his truth
Social post.

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
Now, I'm guessing that you have not spoken to Trump
since then?

Speaker 10 (01:30:19):
Yeah. Yeah, we were bout at the Treasury together last
week or week before last. He extended his hand, shook hands.
I suspect if the present, if the President truly is
a transaction guy, great, because I am too that transaction.
We disagreed on that. There are so many things that
this president wants to accomplish. I want to help him with.
But if I see him going down a path that

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I believe his advisors are not looking around corners for him.

Speaker 11 (01:30:44):
I'm going to disagree.

Speaker 10 (01:30:45):
I think a lot of the president's problems is he
doesn't have people like McK mulvaney's Sam Boss. You need
to think this through as somebody who had experienced with Congress.
You've got a lot of juniors there that are trying
to wait ride the Trump way right now. After Trump's gone,
They're going to ride the next way. They don't really
care about this president. I always care about a president,
not because it's Donald J. Trump, because he's the president

(01:31:06):
of the United States. I want to help Biden be successful.
I want to help Trump be more successful because he's
a Republican. But I'll be damned if I'm going to
have these junior, amateurish people that are advising the president
dictate what I, as a US Senator do as a
US Senator.

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Speaker 11 (01:31:43):
Don't get me started.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
It's kind of one of my new favorite things.

Speaker 11 (01:31:47):
This goes back to nineteen seventy eight, nineteen seventy nine, folks.

Speaker 13 (01:31:50):
I just like having somebody my own age in the studio.
President I really appreciate that Jesus status.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Well done, and you hit the pensident.

Speaker 5 (01:32:00):
Yeah, I told you.

Speaker 11 (01:32:01):
Iggy Pop is in the well.

Speaker 5 (01:32:03):
He's on the soundtrack of the new Superman movie. So
your hipper then, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:32:07):
Yeah, it's are you a Superman like fan? I mean,
you were talking about Superman versus Batman earlier.

Speaker 11 (01:32:13):
Today and actually that was you. You No, he mentioned
the reason I mentioned it as he said it on
the show.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Yeah, when you were sitting in the parking lot because
you couldn't get in the building exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:32:23):
Yeah, I didn't tell Beth that. Apparently he was trying
to get in.

Speaker 10 (01:32:26):
There was a hostage situation. I couldn't get the dude's attention.
I tried to call two numbers. One lady seemed clueless
that I don't know. I don't think your after hours
number for.

Speaker 11 (01:32:34):
W BTU is very reliable, very nice.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Just called me. You have just called me.

Speaker 11 (01:32:40):
I should have done that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:40):
I texted him, did nothing, looking at my phone and
it said I just decided to go get back in
the truck. I was Boe and Beth and Mick mulvaney
and US Senator Tom tell Us here. So last week,
big story. Uh, it was not only Roy Cooper making
his announcement. We'll get to him in a moment, but
the primary for the seat to fill the seat that

(01:33:02):
you're leaving, the GOP head. Former nc GOP chair Michael
Wattley threw his head officially into the ring. What's your
relationship with him? Have you talked to him? What do
you think about that?

Speaker 11 (01:33:14):
You know, Michael's a good guy. I've known him for years.

Speaker 10 (01:33:16):
I know him back when first met him when he
was in d C advocating for energy policy and kept
track of him. I spoke with him, was latest Saturday.
We've texted as late as yesterday, day before. He's gonna
have a knife fight in a phone booth. You've got Cooper,
his very strong candidate. Most people didn't think he was

(01:33:38):
going to run against me, but something's caught his attention,
and Michael's got to be ready for the most probably
most difficult process he's ever been a part of. Six
hundred million dollar campaign. He'll be put under microscope. I
think he's up to the task, but it's a herculean
task and I definitely don't want a Democrat to replace
me as I leave the Senate.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Are you giving him advice? Are you? Are you going
to help guide him as he tries, because he's never
He's certainly been on the background a lot of successful campaigns,
but he hasn't been the front man. Yeah, a different place.

Speaker 10 (01:34:09):
This is sort of like a coach deciding to get
on the field, and he's got to be ready. The
game's very different on the field than it is from
the sideline. So I think most people realize that once
they get into get into a race. So yeah, we've
first off, I'm assuming that the President will endorse and
clear the field and turned last week structurally, but I'm
saying structurally, have the party get behind him so eliminate

(01:34:33):
a serious primary challenge. I think that that's a smart
idea because we're going to need everything focused on winning
in November, and if we have a very costly, bloody primary.

Speaker 11 (01:34:44):
That even makes it more difficult for Michael.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
Now you said that obviously Roy Cooper's name had been
floating in the mix. You sort of imagine what might
be what might be a race with you and Roy Cooper?
What about Roy Cooper versus Michael Whatley?

Speaker 10 (01:35:00):
Now, I think Michael needs to use the same material
I would. It just won't be as personal as it
was with me. Look, Roy Cooper's not a bad guy.
I've got a friendly personal relationship with him. Got a
lot of liberal friends that.

Speaker 11 (01:35:10):
I would never vote for.

Speaker 10 (01:35:12):
But the reality is is Roy Cooper was walking around
the halls of the legislature when they ended up putting
North Carolina in one of the worst.

Speaker 11 (01:35:19):
Possible positions you could economically.

Speaker 10 (01:35:22):
When I became speaker in two thousand and eleven, we
were forty fourth in business rankings, and a lot of
that were bad decisions made by the Democrat leadership over time,
of which Roy Cooper was a part.

Speaker 11 (01:35:33):
We came in and turned the state around.

Speaker 10 (01:35:35):
And Roy Cooper in terms of economic success, he's kind
of like a callous He showed up after the work's
been done. It was Republicans who reduced taxes. It was
Republicans who reduced regulations. It's Republicans that took us from
forty fourth to one two or three in business rankings.
And if I'm Michael Whiteley, I'm going after that and
saying we cannot possibly return to the policies that put

(01:35:59):
us in a competitive position, and it was Republicans and
Republican leadership that got us out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
With all of that information, you know, in the back
pocket of someone like Pat McCrory when he was governor,
how do you think that Roy Cooper defeated him in
twenty sixteen even though all of that information was available.

Speaker 10 (01:36:18):
I think there were you know, it all comes down
to really just grinding it out having the money to
do it. Democrats always have more money in the state
than Republicans when you're running statewide, so it was probably
some campaign execution.

Speaker 11 (01:36:31):
And sometimes I think that Pat's almost too nice.

Speaker 10 (01:36:34):
I mean, when you get into the political arena, you
put on a blue jersey or a red jersey, and
you put your opponent to the map. Like I said,
I have no ill will towards Roy Cooper. We could
probably be friends. If I drink alcohol still, I'd drink
a non alcoholic beer with them. I could probably have
a beer with them, but I would never vote for him,
and I would never say that his policy strategy is
going to be a superior to Republican strategy. I think

(01:36:57):
a good conservative limited government strategy fault at this state
into the forefront. I want to keep them there. I
don't think Democrat leadership in the Senate helps us to
that end.

Speaker 6 (01:37:06):
This is Good Morning Get with both Thompson and Beth Troutman.

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
By request from Senator Tillis, I did this song nine
inch nails. This on your playlist.

Speaker 11 (01:37:31):
Mulvany, No, come on, how old are you?

Speaker 5 (01:37:39):
We are having some fun in studio here. We have
Mick mulvaney, former White House Chief of Staff, and of
course US Senator Tom Tillis with us right now. There
was an interview that happened over the weekend. And raise
your hand if you saw this one coming. But Charlemagne
the God a guest with Laura Trump on her Saturday
night Fox show. Let me set up this clip for you,

(01:38:00):
because she basically said to him, tell me somebody on
the Democratic side and somebody on the Republican side that
maybe somebody you could see or would like to run
for president. Maybe nobody's talking about So the first answer
was John Stewart as a Democrat. As a Democrat. Then
they went to the other side of the aisle.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
I mean I was in South Carolina. I was.

Speaker 17 (01:38:20):
I grew up in South Carolina under you know, somebody
like NICKI Haley, right, so I can see something like that.
I do think and this is I think that I
think that conservative traditional conservatives are going to take the
Republican Party back. I think there's a political coop going
on right now in the Republican Party that people aren't

(01:38:43):
paying attention to.

Speaker 6 (01:38:44):
Oh interesting, Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:38:45):
I think that I think that this, this this Epstein
thing is going to be a way for traditional conservatives
to take their party back.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
I really do. I think that.

Speaker 17 (01:38:54):
I think that I think that they know this is
the issue that has gotten the bay rowed up. The base,
the magabase isn't letting this issue go, and for the
first time, they know they can, you know, probably take
their party back and not piss off the magabase.

Speaker 5 (01:39:11):
Charlotte Man the God is a national radio host syndicated.
He is somebody who has been complimentary of President Trump
before African American but he is. It was Laura Trump's
guest on Saturday night.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
I have no idea what that means, by the way,
but he just said, because what that means is okay,
the magabase is going to get so upset with Trump
about Epstein that they're going to beat a path back
to Mitt Romney's door that they're going to, you know,
call Paul Ryan and say, can you please come back
and run the run the party. That's just that's not
gonna happen. I can see where you might have a

(01:39:45):
division in the magabase. We've talked about that.

Speaker 13 (01:39:47):
This is this is the first time I've ever.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
Seen Trump be in the wrong side of an eighty
twenty issue, and people are not letting it go the
way he thought that he could encourage them to do.

Speaker 13 (01:39:56):
But to think that that leads to a takeover by
the traditionalists and Republican Party.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
Look, that Republican Party is moving more and more towards populism,
as the Democrat Party is.

Speaker 13 (01:40:05):
You don't go from populism to Dick Cheney.

Speaker 5 (01:40:08):
Is there somebody in the modern Party right now, meaning
that it's not named Trump, that you think would be
in the category of someone that would be at least
some sort of throwback to the way things were before
he came.

Speaker 10 (01:40:21):
Look, there's a lot of people in Washington and politics
that are just good, solid, proving conservatives.

Speaker 11 (01:40:27):
What we're dealing with here is the distortion.

Speaker 10 (01:40:29):
In a populist era that started with Obama and Trump
put it on steroids. So just in the same way
the Democrats are having to deal with the mayor of
New York. I hope he keeps on talking, because I
love what that does for Republicans. We've got people who
identify and vote for Republican right now who are not Republicans.
They're a part of the populist message that resonates with them.

(01:40:51):
So they're kind of on the waiver wire. They're going
our way. But I mean, my goodness, if you take
a look at some of the things they're espousing, they're
about as far away from conservative ideals as you can.

Speaker 11 (01:41:00):
And fine, but they're getting us elected. That's okay.

Speaker 10 (01:41:02):
But there are plenty of people to step into the
into a void that's created if we transition.

Speaker 11 (01:41:08):
Out of this populist era. We probably will.

Speaker 10 (01:41:10):
We did in the Gilded Age, We've done it in
the two or three other times that we've been populous driven.
I think it'll happen the same time here and the
good solid Conservatives are going to be in a good
position to win elections when we get there.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
So what happens though in the midterms, if this Epstein
issue doesn't go away, or if it's not resolved in
a way that quiets the base or that quiet's Democrats.

Speaker 10 (01:41:33):
I'm a lot more worried about economic performance, the impact
of Medicaid provisions and the bill that was passed last
month than I am about Epstein. Like I said on
you All show, just release the files, guys, Let sunshine
disinfect everything. Release the files that we can admit that
maybe it wasn't a sensational if you admit it, if
that's one of the reasons you're not doing it, or

(01:41:55):
let some people pay the consequences for being a part
of a human trafficking of young females. Either once an
okay outcome for me and one that I don't think
is a fatal blow to this administration. We should also
keep in mind, I don't believe we're going to change
the constitution. The President is not going to run again,
So this is all about maybe consequences in the midterm
At the end of the day, it's going to be
the economy and implementation of policies next year They're going

(01:42:18):
to termine the outcome, not the Epstein fil Well and a.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
Question two with the big beautiful bill and the impacts
that people might feel, most people won't feel those impacts
until after the twenty twenty six No.

Speaker 10 (01:42:30):
Right, Beth, Please do not confuse a policy opportunity with
a policy implementation. I became the second Republican Speaker of
the House since the Civil War because I started successfully
telling people what Obamacare was going to do to them
before Obamacare was ever even ratified. So people need to

(01:42:50):
understand the plain text of the laws out there.

Speaker 11 (01:42:53):
People.

Speaker 10 (01:42:53):
In some respects, delay in the implementation puts you at
greater risk because now the Democrats can assertch stuff that
are probably going to be patently false and healthcare like
it was when I ran the campaigns back in twenty ten,
I mean, it was a treasure trove of things you
can use to create wedge issues and hopefully we can
overcome it get Republicans reelected.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
Before we go to break here, back to what Mix
said for just a moment about the Epstein situation and
how it is really the first issue that's come along
that put Trump at odds with some of his magabase.
Do you think, in both of you, I want to
where do you think this is going to go? Is
it eventually going to just kind of waste away? Or
is this the kind of thing that he's going to
have to confront somehow before he moves on to something else.

Speaker 13 (01:43:37):
I think it has to come out. I just think
it does.

Speaker 4 (01:43:39):
I keep hearkening back to the fact the reason Congress
left early the House now was because there were a
lot of Republicans pro Trump, Republicans willing to either sign
off on a discharge petition or vote for it when
it came up on the floor. That's the highest level
of anti leadership thing that you can do. And what
does that mean in their mind? That means in their mind, Okay,

(01:44:02):
it's better for me politically to be for transparency on
the Epstein issue than it is to do what Donald
Trump says.

Speaker 13 (01:44:10):
And that's a big change. That's it. That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
That is a sea change in sorry politics of Washington,
d C. And I think it's gonna it's gonna come out.
And again, I don't think there's anything really bad about
Donald Trump in there. I think it's bad about other
people that somebody for some reason on both sides of
the islands.

Speaker 11 (01:44:24):
I agree with the technic.

Speaker 4 (01:44:25):
I think it makes doubt on It could be some
embarrassing stuff for Trump, but never illegal or else.

Speaker 13 (01:44:29):
You would have heard about it already.

Speaker 5 (01:44:31):
Well, you hear about it a lot in the media.
Do you hear about it behind the scenes on Capitol
Hill and back rooms?

Speaker 10 (01:44:37):
And this is this something that it's a huge distraction,
which is why I think we had to pull off
the band aid. I mean, Mick knows how Washington works.
I mean, it's like a baby nursery. When one baby
starts crying, they all start crying. They're all crying about
the Epstein information right now. The best thing we could
do to get rid of this distraction is to make
it public and move on.

Speaker 13 (01:44:55):
And should have done it now because it's August, which is.

Speaker 5 (01:44:58):
A dead zone one hundred percent. In other words, it
gets talked about in a vacuum this month, no.

Speaker 13 (01:45:02):
One's no one's at the beach was wrapping up vacation.

Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
This is good morning, Beatty, because you told me.

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
Better.

Speaker 11 (01:45:23):
Hey for the wreckers. Betty was dancing to the Sharman
Charman music.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
This crap.

Speaker 11 (01:45:29):
He was like doing the he was doing the awkward dance,
the only dance, Like god, it's terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:45:37):
Lsing Now like Brian Adams, how about another CHARMTT theme
song on my Netflix or on my YouTube music premium. Wait,
hang on for the record, Brian Adams. Yeah your nay,
I'm okay with Brian. That's all you needed to say.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 13 (01:45:51):
My first xtreme No no, no, no, Actually that's better
than him. We have maybe your next career.

Speaker 5 (01:46:04):
Mick mulvaney and the US Senator Tom tell Us in
studio with this. First of all, thank you so much
for staying as long as you have. This has been
really enlightening. And hope it's not the last time we
do this.

Speaker 11 (01:46:13):
No, it's fun.

Speaker 13 (01:46:14):
He's gonna have plenty of time.

Speaker 5 (01:46:15):
Well yeah, let's talk about that. So you know, now
when the endgame is, so to speak, you made the
decision that you're not going to run again. So you
have what a little over a year left in DC.
What's what is on the list of things to do
before I leave?

Speaker 11 (01:46:32):
Seventeen months? But who's counting a lot? We got it.

Speaker 10 (01:46:35):
First off, we've got to make sure that we get
the president's legacy secured, and a part of that is
having members in the Senate who will give it him
advice that people around him are not.

Speaker 11 (01:46:46):
So one of the roles that you.

Speaker 10 (01:46:47):
All will never see, hopefully, is my try to get
my getting advice to the president directly because I don't
trust some of his advisors to look around corners make
sure that we implement these good ideas for policies, but
they have staying power. There's also a lot of things
that I intend to do. You know, I have the
deciding vote on finance and on banking, on judiciary. I'm

(01:47:08):
going to make sure that all the President's good nominees
make it through and going to send a very clear
message if you send somebody up who crosses a red
line that I have on January sixth or other things,
I'm simply not going to allow him out a committee.
I don't take that power lightly, but it is one
that I'm fully aware that I have. So I think
I may be in a better position now than if
I stayed in the Senate to help the President not

(01:47:31):
suffer the consequences of bad advice from some of these
sick of fans who are working for him, that it's
a money model to them as much as it is
a legacy for this president of the United States.

Speaker 11 (01:47:40):
We've got to work on that.

Speaker 10 (01:47:42):
Hopefully get things right for health care policy, get the
economy on track, and continue to build on a lot
of the great things President. I agree with eighty percent
of what he's doing. It's the twenty percent that could
get them in trouble. I'm going to try and make
sure that twenty percent doesn't happen to his legacy.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
Do you think that some of the advisors that he
has now, if he doesn't have people who oppose maybe
ideas or maybe or giving him bad advice, do you
think those people have the ability to tarnish this president?

Speaker 13 (01:48:11):
Well, they will know.

Speaker 10 (01:48:12):
When you're hired as an advisor in your boss says
something that you think is bad and is going to
be bad for them, then you're a coward and you're
lying by not offering your opinion. I've been accused of
a lot of things, but the President has never accused
me of being indirect with him. When I'm giving him advice,
I've told him you can take it, but I'm telling

(01:48:34):
you you have people in your circle giving you advice
that are not in your best interest. It may be
in their best interest, or it may be a oh
my beer, you watch this sort of interest on their part.
I'm here to make this president successful, not because I
want the president to be successful. I want this country
to be successful. I want the Congress to be successful.

(01:48:54):
While on earth would anybody who's invested twenty years in
getting Republicans elected, getting concerned privative policy implemented at the
state and federal level want to undermine that legacy.

Speaker 11 (01:49:05):
I'm here to make it shine.

Speaker 10 (01:49:07):
And he has people on his staff who need to
get out or get away from his ear because they're
the single greatest threat to his legacy. I told him
that just before I also told him he needed to
find a replacement in North Carolina.

Speaker 5 (01:49:21):
So Pete Heggsith Pete hegg Seth is somebody that is
probably the biggest example of somebody that's gotten scrutiny because
scrutiny because of where they came from and whether they
were qualified to begin with. And we don't have to
go back to the whole backstory of the confirmation process,
but what do you what do you think of the
job He's done thus far.

Speaker 10 (01:49:42):
I think that the I deferred to the Senate Armed
Services Committee. I said, I'm going to look at other factors,
but Senate Armed Services has to determine whether or not
he has the requisite skills. It's clear to me that
they were overly generous with his ability to run a large,
complex organization. He's he's got a C on a good day,
and a C minus on a on an average day,
and a D plus on most days. This is a large,

(01:50:04):
complex organization that needs shaking up. Believe me when I
tell you there's a lot of way. Why did it
take ten years to find the next generation handgun?

Speaker 5 (01:50:12):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:50:13):
So there's a lot of things, but you got to
have someone who has large has a successful track record
and running large complex organizations to really drive out those benefits.
And I think, based on what I've seen now, piece
just not up to the test. Good guy, patriot, you know,
a hero. I'll give them all that, but there's a
difference between all that and being capable of running a large,

(01:50:36):
the most complex and I believe, consequential organization in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:50:41):
Do you guys think that he survives the term heg seth, Yeah,
will mean the chances of any of them lasting all
four years just statistically is fairly low.

Speaker 10 (01:50:48):
When this guy, y'all got to keep in mind and
President's first term, he had more sectivs than Spinal Tab
had drummers.

Speaker 13 (01:51:00):
At the end. But he's probably five right, it was
five sec.

Speaker 5 (01:51:03):
So we asked you, what's on the to do list
between now and when you leave office? Have you thought
much about what comes after you leave office?

Speaker 10 (01:51:11):
Well, one thing I'm going to do is take control
over my calendar for the first time in about twenty years.
That those socks that I was showing you are my
three grandchildren, and I already spend a lot of time
with them, probably more than just about any member that
has grandchildren, because they're they, my wife, my family are
top priority.

Speaker 11 (01:51:28):
And then I'll get into business. I've been working since
I was twelve years old.

Speaker 10 (01:51:31):
I got a worker's permit when I was twelve, paid
into Social Security thirty three dollars back in nineteen seventy three.
I don't plan on stepping away for that from some time.
I'll be sixty five at the end of this month.
I got a few more laps around the track, and
we'll figure that out. After I try to do everything
I can to harden this president's legacy as one of
the most successful presidents in modern history.

Speaker 11 (01:51:52):
Well, it's well within our reach as long as we
work together to that end.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
Now, Mick, you worked as a very close advisor to
the president one time, Yes, ye, at one point. So
as he said that there are people around him right
now who could tarnish his legacy. We have just a
few a few seconds left. But who do you think
is good at getting the president's ear and helping maintain
a legacy that is positive and that people see as

(01:52:17):
we look back at the history of his presidency see
as positive.

Speaker 13 (01:52:20):
There's a bunch of good people in the White House.

Speaker 4 (01:52:22):
There's not a lot of good people. Kevin Hassett was
just on TV after me on CNBC this morning. Kim's
one of my favorite people. He runs, He's the National
Economic Advisor, really really talented people. I become a big
fan of Scott Bessant in the last couple of weeks.
But I've not been shy on this program on television
standing on a street corner yelling at people that I
think people like you know, Peter.

Speaker 13 (01:52:40):
Navarro, are a real problem, big problem that they that
they're just they are. It's hard to discriver by the way.

Speaker 11 (01:52:48):
They're not there for the right races exactly. You can
be nice, but I could even not be nice. They
couldn't get out there for the right race.

Speaker 4 (01:52:54):
They could not get a job, but for the job
they have not the singularly unemployed. I mean, basically, this
is the guy who got caught, you know, with using
an imaginary friend in some of his academic works. So
and now he's a senior advisor to the president. He's
not the only one. There's some really, really good and
talented people out there in the White House working for him.

Speaker 13 (01:53:12):
But then there's why.

Speaker 4 (01:53:13):
Trump seems to want to have the very best in
the world and the very worst at the same time.
I have no idea, but the analogy I say is, Look,
we began the first term with the President Ied States
being advised by the president of Goldman Sachs, and we
ended the first term with a president being advised by
guy who sells pillows at night on Fox News. Okay,
that that has been the arc of that of that administration,

(01:53:35):
and he needs to be aware of that.

Speaker 5 (01:53:37):
Well, look, we've managed to get Mick to come in
on a regular basis with us on Mondays. We'd love
to have you in a similar situation, maybe after everything
calms down, after you leave office, but you always have
a have a line in to talk to us, and
we appreciate the accessibility.

Speaker 11 (01:53:51):
Thanks. This has been fun.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
We have mulvany Mondays. We could have tell us Tuesdays.

Speaker 11 (01:53:55):
Look at that.

Speaker 6 (01:53:56):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:53:57):
Well, we'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 11 (01:53:58):
Senator.

Speaker 6 (01:54:00):
Hey, why'd you get to freezy on me?

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
I tire? That's the name of the game.

Speaker 6 (01:54:05):
Well, listen while you're still comed We get that pull
right together.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
Yeah.

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Good Morning BT | Sen. Thom Tillis and Mick Mulvaney

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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Good Morning BT | Sen. Thom Tillis and Mick Mulvaney