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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hurry, I see herds to drop fine.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Good morning Echo Base.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is rope too. I found them repeating.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I found them from US Talk eleven ten and ninety
nine three double E beat.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
I love it when a plan comes together.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is good morning Beatty with Bo Thompson at Beth
Trout Within.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
I was listening to the magic voice, just coming out
of the strange modern invention.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
We had once in a night time.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
But I just go and see it until it was gone.

Speaker 6 (00:37):
Second once in a night time maybe too much.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Too beast, but I swam from two yea on KAD
this time much.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
This time, this time.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
You know, we're in a building that has several radio stations,
so as we start our show, we have people walking
past the window that wave and say hello. And that
just happened one of our co workers, and I think
really is telling that they walk past. We're just blaring
a little Pebo Bryson and he waves like it's nothing
to him.

Speaker 7 (01:33):
Very familiar with this show.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
He is he babe, and that person who had to here,
that's all.

Speaker 7 (01:36):
Yes, Well, we have already gotten a text message on
the WBT text line from Jeff with a picture of
the rainy Charlotte Airport, along with the big question what
music did Beth wake up too? I thought you're gonna tell.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
Me he was a picture of Pebo Bryson.

Speaker 7 (01:53):
I wish because I actually can't remember what Pivo Bricelon
looks like.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
A Pebo Bryson. He was one of the rulers of
nineteen eighty. I'm telling you, it's a great song.

Speaker 7 (02:08):
It's it's a sleeper, guys. It's It's one of those
songs that the second that you hear it, you're like, wow,
how do I not listen to this every day? Well,
there's Pepo our sleuth Steve googled it super fast. It's
a sleeper.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, people's not here. It's just a picture of Pepo.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
However you interpret sleeper that word, you know, it might
be like it's a really a snood rated song.

Speaker 7 (02:29):
That might be a snooze, a big snooze fest.

Speaker 8 (02:33):
I found a better picture.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
He went through a lot of hairstyles.

Speaker 7 (02:35):
Yeah, Young Peebo is awesome. Also Peepo well known for
the late eighties early nineties Disney soundtracks.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Oh yeah, what if Back and Cheebone are playing this
kind of music? They are at Panthers training camp.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Sure, they played this at FanFest the other night.

Speaker 7 (02:55):
I hope someone needed to hear Peebo Gryce in today.
See he's walking by again. He needed to see it.
He needed to hear.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
Peebo and again, just completely unfazed. We switched to another
Pebo Bryson song and he's like, yeah, yeah, sounds all right.
Two songs in a row with lots of talk.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Kid, Oh okay, you.

Speaker 7 (03:16):
Know we were talking about with Pebo Bryson. I don't know,
maybe three weeks ago on the show. I don't remember why.
Of course, we were in some rabbit hole in Pebo
Bryson came up and.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I know why.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
Because of that. Because of that, I have downloaded now
quite a few Pebo Bryson songs.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's a three fer.

Speaker 7 (03:36):
This scene from the cartoon version of Beauty and the Beast.
I wanted to live in that library, you know, where
she's dancing with the Beast and the yellow ball gown
and they're in the library. It's a two story library
with a balcony and light ladders.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
Wow, it's my dream. It's a lot going on there.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Wait, they had ladders, but's amazing.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
There's only one thing left that we haven't done as
it relates to Peebo Bryson. Let's go ahead and just
throw out all the toys.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
We're hearing the forty biggest tips of the week, according
to the official nationwide server they of Billboard magazine.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
This is American Top forty.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
I'm Casey Casem and the countdown continue.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
At number ten for a third straight week. This is
the second top forty pop hit for smooth balladeer Peebow Bryson.
If ever, you're in my arms again.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
Now we're nineteen eighty four completely, so thank you, Beth.
I don't know what this means for the rest of
the show, but maybe I needed to hear this today.
Maybe I'm the guy.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Maybe you're a balladeer.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
How can you not like Peebo Bryson.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
How do you not know who he is?

Speaker 7 (04:51):
Call his name's Peebow?

Speaker 6 (04:53):
Well again, Pebo Bryson now added to the official playlist,
which is the song Beth woke up to it. It's official.
It's a Spotify playlist that we created a few weeks ago.
So if you're wondering you miss a day, you can
go back and hear it and enjoy your workout.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Maybe it's like a stretching portion that's yeah, yeah, this
is either find a pregame stretch or.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
Or this gives you a reason to dance with your
husband or your wife in the kitchen.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Or the library with two ladders.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
So enjoy your breakfast.

Speaker 7 (05:28):
Just get up from your eggs right now, have a
little slow dance.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
Seven four five, seven eleven ten. The text line got
to work out yesterday. I love it when you know,
randomly I'll look, I'll check out the text line later
in the day during someone else's show and they'll just
kind of chime in, like we're still having that conversation yesterday.
It ended up getting into some pretty heated areas before
that was before the senators got here. Yeah, you know,

(05:54):
because we're talking about driving and we're talking about what
was the other thing we were.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
Talking about why people aren't in uptown as much.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
As yeah, yeah, the the and that got people going.
So again, a good reason to remind you that the
text line is there is here driven by a liberty
view at GMC. When we come back, we'll revisit some
of the conversation yesterday as we had us Senator Tom
Tillis and also Mick Mlvaney in the house together, and
a lot a lot of ground that was covered yesterday.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
What a fun hour and a half that was yesterday.
I mean, just what a spirited conversation.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I thought my part was good.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
Yeah, you were really really good.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
I got to let you guys take the lead on
that one. Couldn't have done it without you, Jim, I mean,
you clearly could have.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
This is good Morning, Bet with both Thompson and Beth
trout Man, News.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
Talk eleven ten, nine to nine, three WBT rain coming down.
Be careful out there as you make your way in.
It's bowing, Beth on a Tuesday morning, and a lot
of great feedback to the back end of our show
yesterday where we had Mick mulvaney and US Senator Tom
Tillis in studio for almost.

Speaker 7 (07:00):
I mean, think about how much of our culture that
those two men have influenced. A US senator and a
former White House Chief of staff.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
And how many things they've been privy to. Yeah, a
chief of staff and a senator for several terms. Of course,
Tillis announced a few weeks ago that he's not going
to run for reelection. We'll hear what he had to
say about that a bit later. But as we go
back to a bit of the conversation yesterday, let's start
with the story that has been in the forefront this

(07:29):
weekend and the first part of this week, and that's,
of course, the decision made by President Trump to fire
the Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics on the
heels of the report that he saw on Friday, which
saw numbers the economy added just seventy three thousand jobs
in July. They also released downward revisions of jobs data
from May and June. So we asked US Senator Tom

(07:52):
Tillis and Mick mulvaney about that story, what they think
and what their reaction has been.

Speaker 9 (07:57):
If the President has been presented with the information that
makes it clear that she failed to do her job,
that the methodology, whatever issues to come up with the
BLS reports.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Of course he should fire.

Speaker 9 (08:10):
But if he fired her just because he didn't like
the result, that's childish and whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
The President very seldom makes a decision on his own.

Speaker 9 (08:17):
He's usually either has an idea, he asks people if
they agree with them, or people continue to or give
them a good idea. I think that again, if we
proved that the method was wrong, that they were overseeing
a process that didn't.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Have validity, you get rid of them.

Speaker 9 (08:32):
But if you fired them just because you got to
dip in jobs, that's childish and it's a distraction, and
it discredits a very important agency for statistics. This isn't
just something that the president looks at. It's something that
every person in business looks at and makes decisions around.
We can't undermind data coming out of what we consider
be gold standard for analysis.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
Well, I thought that this was an interesting political move
because even politically, if they do find out that things
were done poorly or not done well, and she was
fired for cause, but if they put someone else in
place and suddenly there are great jobs numbers they've given
opponents of Donald Trump, Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
You want to talk to Cook in the book.

Speaker 9 (09:11):
So, I mean, look, the reason why China's economy, China's employment,
everything looks rosy is because She Jingping controls the information
that comes out.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
We live up to a higher standard.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
We need to.

Speaker 9 (09:23):
Continue to even though even sometimes we don't like the
result or it undermines our credibility.

Speaker 10 (09:29):
I'm all for the integrity of the data, the credibility
of the institutions, and so forth. But let's be honest,
we haven't had that now. J. Powell went on National
Television International Television on Wednesday of last week and said, well,
the job market looks great. Therefore we're thinking about not
lowering rates. He was relying on bad data. The BLS
was putting out really bad data. I get to the

(09:52):
point about explaining why that is and so forth. Sometimes
you just somebody has to be accountable, some that you know.
You can't fire the whole team, So let's fire the coach.

Speaker 9 (10:00):
Let's use this moment like anytime I fire somebody for cause,
to document the costs and bad data, bad analytics, bad
process are great reasons to get rid of somebody that
you trust to lead an analytics organization. But let's not
walk away from it. Let's do the after action to
point to exactly why we think the information was flawed,
so that we don't repeat the mistake.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
They're still getting data on facsimiles.

Speaker 7 (10:23):
I was going to ask, let's talk about it still
get through the mail well in its surveys. Right, the
data comes from interviewing employers and employees and then business.

Speaker 10 (10:33):
Fill out right, sort of like I'm going to oversimplify,
but it's sort of like the old what was the
system you used to use for what television stations you
were watching? Nielsen Neilsen, filling your book and stuff like that.
It's similar to that.

Speaker 7 (10:45):
So it's antiquated in the way that the information gets
too and it does a.

Speaker 10 (10:49):
Terrible job of counting new jobs and old jobs, new businesses,
old businesses. I get that, but this was the largest
downward revision since other than COVID, which is a different
its own liar, since nineteen seventy nine. Ordinarily revisions are
we had one hundred thousand jobs last month, No, it
was revised down to ninety or up to one hundred
and ten. We lost a quarter of a million jobs

(11:10):
in this report over the course of the last two one.

Speaker 9 (11:12):
But the reason why we've got a look at the methodology, folks,
is we've also had an unprecedented series of tariffs going
in that change uncertain that change certainty and certainty.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Causes businesses to pull back on employment.

Speaker 9 (11:26):
They've got to prepare for potential costs that they can't control,
so you get rid of the ones that you can,
which is why I continue to be the nerdy old
data guys saying, show me the data and you got me.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Don't show me the rhetoric that doesn't impress me.

Speaker 10 (11:40):
I don't get the I don't see how I'm trying
to walk this through in my head that Trump is
accusing her of manipulating the data in the past in
order to hurt him politically, because I'm thinking, okay, is
that are people in Washington capable of doing that? Absolutely,
there are people in Washington who believe that the end
justified the means that I aggressed to making Trump look badever.

(12:00):
If I was running these numbers and I wanted to
make the president look bad, I would not have put
out great job numbers in May and June and then
rise them down. I just would have put out the
bad numbers.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
To begin with.

Speaker 9 (12:12):
And I also would put out numbers that will probably
drive the FED rate cut that the President once Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
Well, And I saw an interview over the weekend with
Bill Beach, who was the previous commissioner that President Trump appointed.
The one that was fired by Trump over the weekend
was appointed by Biden. There's my understanding. But he Beach
said that his job as the Commissioner was simply to
be the messenger of here's what it is. He didn't

(12:39):
have anything to do with the collection or the overseeing
of what happened to get there.

Speaker 10 (12:43):
But that goes to my point about accountability. Okay, somebody
is I mean, I don't. I was on the Financial
Services Committee. We had oversight over Treasury. We didn't have
much overset over BLS, but we used a lot of
BLS numbers. I never remember anybody from the Obama administration.
I remember it from the Trump administration going down to
Congress saying we need to change the system. Someone has
to be responsible for it. And if it's not the

(13:04):
person in charge of BLS, then who is it?

Speaker 11 (13:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (13:07):
Last footnote on the Biden the Biden nominee. Keep in
mind that this person had been in analytics roles for
almost the entire of her career in the US government,
had been playing a role since I think about two
thousand and eight and before that. So she's not like
a political hack that came from the DNC and I
put in the BLS.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Let's just look at the data.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Though.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I'm not defenc I'm not four against it.

Speaker 9 (13:30):
I'm just all about let's let's understand the reason for
cause for the termination.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
Well and to that point with the data, and this
came from commission Commissioner Beach as well, that it's it's
commonplace to revise over a two month period the numbers
that came out because of the outliers, you know, the
people who don't get those, Like you said, it's an
antiquated system, Mick. But to get that information back in
and the more information that comes in, the more accurate

(13:55):
the numbers.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Visions are normal.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
Revisions are normal.

Speaker 10 (13:57):
There's no question about revisions of this side is once
in a fifty year event.

Speaker 9 (14:02):
But guys, keep in mind again timeline the revisions. When
you're talking about jobs forecasts over the last two months.
Look at what's happened over the last two months. Unprecedented
uncertainty in the trade space. Businesses are going to react
to uncertainty by pulling in the costs that they think
they could have easily set them an employee, this many
people sixty days ago. Now they think a tear for
a major supplying countries in play, I got to pull back.

(14:25):
So there may be some rationale there, or there could
be a pure political motivation. Let's just get to the facts.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
That's US Senator Tom Tillis joining us in studio late
in the show yesterday. We also talked to him about
his thoughts of the Michael Wattley race that's sizing up
here against Roy Cooper if those two front runners advanced
to the general election. But he had some thoughts on
what's happening in the battle for his seat once he leaves,
and also what he's going to do between now and

(14:53):
the end of his term and then after that, you know,
what's life going to be post US Senate for Tom till.
It's all things we talked about. You can hear the
interview on demand at WBT dot com and wherever you
get a GMBT podcast. But we'll also here's some more
highlights of this throughout the show this morning.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
It was a fascinating conversation and it was it was
really really fun is the word that I would use,
although it's probably an odd word to use when you're
talking to a former White House Chief of Staff and
a senator, a sitting senator, but it was really fun
to have that conversation, and it was especially fun to
hear those two talking about what it's like right now

(15:28):
to be in Washington, DC.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
Well, and one of the things we like to do
on this show is talk to the people who are there, right,
you know, perspective and see you want to be a
fly on the wall. If you can't be, let's talk
to somebody who was there and see what the fly
would have seen.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
This is Good Morning BET.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
Six thirty nine on wbt BO and Beth and the
Zoke and Sir Stephen and for Bernie today. Hello, Bernie
is off today. Hopefully we'll have Bernie back tomorrow. So
we did not get to this yesterday with Zoke and
I had it on the list. We just had a
lot going on. But this is a big This is
a seismic deal potentially because ESPN, according to several reports,

(16:12):
has agreed to acquire NFL media properties. And what does
that mean, Well, it means a variety of things, but
most importantly it means red Zone. So if you watch
red Zone, and we talk about you know, seven hours
if I'm interrupted football, I know you don't get to
watch this very often because well, you're doing a football
game most Sundays. But every time Zochi has that the
bye week or a week that they're off for some

(16:32):
reason we always end up talking and you get to
actually sit back in your den and watch Red Zone,
which is if you're a fantasy football player or you're
just an NFL fans. This it's this entity that was
created what maybe fifteen years ago because they have what
you can what's called the NFL Sunday Ticket where you
can pay and you can watch every game no matter

(16:53):
where you are, which that's kind of the full Monty, right,
But then how do you have time, Well, it means
you have access to them and.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
There picture and picture and picture and picture.

Speaker 6 (17:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (17:02):
So when YouTube TV took it over two years ago.
Last year they started doing it more common. But they
do a multiview where you can have up to four
games on screen at once.

Speaker 7 (17:13):
Do you know what reminds me of did y'all see
that movie Idiocracy where the dude's sitting on his toilet
chair and he has like nine screens in front of
him watching videos.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
It's not wrong, it's kind of what it is. I'm
I'm sure somebody in America is doing it that way.
But so then came Red Zone. About five or six
years after the Sunday Ticket became a thing. In the
Red Zone and there was a direct TV version and
then there's also the cable version. But red zone, if
you don't know, is basically you know every time a

(17:43):
team is in the red zone in any game, what's
the red zone?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
The red zone twenty yard to the end zone like
a scoring zone. Yeah, firs JV called the money zone.

Speaker 7 (17:53):
That seems like that would be the green zone.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Well, if you listened to Monday Night Football on Westwood One,
it's the Hines red zone.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
It's ketchup.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
That green ketchup never did take.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
Off, did not take off.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
That's for the rest of the field. But anyway, red
zone was created, and basically it is the cheat, the
cheaters version of the Sunday ticket. You don't have to
pay for all those games, but you could get taken
to every game where there's a scoring opportunity. Well, that's fun,
and they it's commercial free, like the whole day. You
can sit back on Sunday afternoon and from one o'clock
to the to the last game before Sunday Night Football,

(18:29):
you just go back and forth and back and forth.
And it's one of the few things left where there
aren't any commercials. I mean, there are billboards and stuff
but they're not commercial breaks. In fact, the guy Scott
Hansen who hosts it, his main job is to make
sure you don't see any commercials, Like he steers you
away from him.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
When did they use the bathroom he's before?

Speaker 6 (18:46):
After the show, he's like ten, I don't know how
he does it. I mean he just has as they
used to call Al Gardner iron pants.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
What no old old iron pants, Which is funny because
as we all know, there are commercials where you could
go to the bathroom.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
In front, but he would do like when you first
got here. How there were several things where he had
to sit for a long not just the show, but
like impeachment coverage back when the Clinton stuff was going on,
Like he had a couple of these marathon sessions, and
so the program director started calling him iron pants.

Speaker 7 (19:18):
Wow, yeah, somebody has ever called me.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
That and knowing me either because I didn't let him.
I said, that's him, that's not me.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Well you're the opposite. It's your puddles.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
But anyway, so this guy Scott Hansen sits for seven
or eight hours. But I'm saying all of this because
ESPN over the weekend is not official yet. In fact,
they don't believe it's going to be official until probably
next season because it's such a seismic deal. But they've
been talking about this for a long time because ESPN
is going to offer some point this fall what they

(19:48):
called direct to consumer, which means it'd be the first
time you could get ESPN as just a standalone subscription,
like right now it has to be connected to a
cable subscription. But they've been saying, who's going to pay
thirty dollars a month for ESPN alone. They're going to
have to have something that they package in with it,
and it's long been speculated that Red Zone and NFL

(20:10):
Network games are We're going to be the thing that
they could say, Okay, here's the premium, here's why you
want to pay for a direct consumer ESPN. And so
if this deal goes through like they say it's going
to go through, this is a big deal because now
red Zone will be under the ESPN flag, ESPN will
get several more games, and a lot of the talent
that work for NFL Network will now presumably be under

(20:32):
the ESPN umbrella.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
And just the first reaction from fans, which is funny
because they're sports fans in football fans is oh dread
because it's just like with the Barkley Crew going over
with the NBA. They're like, how will ESPN muck this
up with Pat McAfee and Stephen A. Smith and all
the ESPN nests that they do to it so.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
ESPs Well, can you imagine ESPN staying with the seven
hour commercial free format?

Speaker 12 (20:56):
No?

Speaker 6 (20:56):
I just can't either.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
If you ever heard the song ESPN the Er, it's
like a little dude in his little guitar and it's ESPN. ESPN,
You're the reason I'm single again. No, life is for something,
Life is for winners, and sports is your friend. And
who's got more sports on than ESPN?

Speaker 6 (21:11):
Now I've neverard that.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
No, we'll find it like a little diddy, but it's yeah,
it's a big deal, like billions of dollars as Boat
is talking about, and everything that comes with that includes
games and so forth. But it's like, I just don't know,
just do people have the appetite for one more premium subscription?

Speaker 7 (21:29):
No?

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Well, if that's the only way you can get red zone,
then that would change it. Though, dang it. See that's
that's the thing they got to have. Because I agree
with you completely. People aren't gonna show out an extra
thirty bucks just for ESPN unless that package gives you
something you can't get anywhere else. You know. Red Zone
would be one of those things though.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
And I'm not honestly beyond the fantasy football aspect of it,
which is actually one of the main reasons I'm kind
of short attention span anyway. I don't want to watch
like the Patriots play the Seahawks for three hours, but
show me like the great moments that might happen because
we're in the score zone or whatever. So it's like
to me, it's like, yeah, that's that's kind of my level.
And so they'll have one or they'll have two. And
then if there's four games that are all in the
red zone at the same time, we're going four wide,

(22:09):
I mean it. So sometimes they have to kind of
fill and then sometimes it's just like it's all happening
all at once.

Speaker 7 (22:14):
I didn't even know the Red Zone show was a thing.
This sounds like my way of watching football, Like like
I'd be interested, Zokie said four wide. Sometimes they go
to the octobux.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
This guy, Scott Hanson's been doing this for fifteen years
fifteen years.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
And that's important too. They've got to keep Scott Hanson.
I don't want I can think of a number of
scenarios of who they could put there, like Zokie said
McAfee and Steven A. Smith, but they need to keep
it intact. It's like everybody's waiting to see that when
an ESPN gets inside the NBA this fall, is it
going to resemble anything that it has on TNT. And
we don't know yet till we see it. But just

(22:49):
in case you're wondering, this acquisition includes NFL network Red Zone,
seven regular season games, and the league's fantasy football business.
So it's it's a lot. That's why this has gotten
the attention that it's gotten. So it's got to go
through several layers of legal ease and we'll see if
it actually gets done. But the talking heads that know
this stuff and the sports media business are all saying

(23:11):
it is inevitable. Traffic check right now, Boomer van camp.

Speaker 13 (23:15):
Bo I love some red zone, man, I love it,
but I'm concerned about ESPN moving in.

Speaker 6 (23:20):
It's Stephen A. Smith.

Speaker 13 (23:22):
I'm just that's Stephen A Yes, sir. Former Charlotte Post
reporter stephen A used to have breakfast at the Coffee Cup.

Speaker 7 (23:31):
Oh man, I love to the Coffee Cup.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Stephen A knew about that place too, That's why I
never went to the Coffee Cup.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Don't mess with the red zone, please, right.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
It was so loud. I want to go in there.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
I go to the bathroom, but someone my score wrong. ESPN, ESPN, you'reason,
I'm single again.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Life is for losers. Sports is your friend.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
Good morning, who's got more sports than there?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
You go.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
See, it's a real thing. It's a real thing.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
Buskin and Beteu Yeah, big big, big btel big group.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
That was just their big hit.

Speaker 11 (24:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
It's funny that I even know this song, but I
know it because of a musical performance that is. But
I didn't call it.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Well, there was I don't know, like fifteen twenty years ago,
there was a story about some dude who named they
named their kid a couple espen. Oh did you ever
hear about that story? No? Yeah, And then there are
a few examples of that over the years.

Speaker 7 (24:39):
At least goes Espen kind of sounds like if you
named your like aspen. Maybe, I don't know what do
people name their kids aspen?

Speaker 8 (24:47):
Or if they were Star Wars fans like Bespin Espen.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
That would be like choosing to name my kid like
Revco or every.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Rev whatever.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Whatever happened to Revco. I think CBS bought Revco or
one of them bought Revco, because when I was a kid,
and when we were kids, Revco was everywhere.

Speaker 7 (25:10):
Revco was everywhere, and so was Eckerd. And Eckerd had
there was they had like little soda counters in some
of the Eckerd stores that were especially the ones. We
had one hooked to the Carolina Mall and you could
go in there and get a hot Now.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
There was one over at the the echered across at
Providence and Providence and Queens and Queens. Uh. There was
one at South Park, there was one at Eastland. They
all had they had, you know, full grills and kitchens
there and they had their little round little booth seats,
remember those.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
At Eckerd or we say Ekkerds Ekerds.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
I know, everybody said Eckerds and Belts.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
And then you watch the commercial Eckered drugs, You're like, what, No,
you go to Ekerts echords. I saw somebody by the way.
This makes me think of that again. The Intimate Bookshop
keeps coming up in conversation. I'm like, it really was
a thing. Yeah, it wasn't an adult superstore.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
No, they only sold books.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Maybe's why they went out of business. People walked in
either appalled or disappointed.

Speaker 6 (26:05):
Well, when you talk about it, you end up saying, yes,
it was a book called the Intimate Bookshop. I mean
a store called the Intimate Bookshop. And it had two levels.
And it's that's not hyperbole, It's like that was really
a thing.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Like, hey, seriously, where's the good books.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
They're behind the beat it curtain.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
But then you go, you go upstairs and that was
the kids section.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
Again, this all sounds really weird, but it was true.
Just like every mall in this area had an Eckerd
or Echerds, they all had the Intimate Bookshop too.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
Well, we in Concord had Walden Books. We had Walden Bok.
I did love Walden Books.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
Walden Books was at Carolina Place, I remember because it
was right there outside of Dillard's.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
Our Walden Books was right across the mall hallway or
the whatever, the walkway from Camelot Music. So that end
of the mall was my favorite end of the mall
because you had Belk, you had Camelot, and you had
Walden Books.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Spencer's was Spencer's and.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
We didn't have a Spencer's. We were not cool enough
to have a Spencer's. In Concord.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
Here's the question at the Secret Mall, at the Secret
Mall in Uptown Uptown? Yeah, did they have an intimate bookshop?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Did they?

Speaker 6 (27:10):
No, I'm kidding, I'm creating rumors.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
It seems like that would be a place for an
intimate bookshop because it would be very intimate. You see,
the only one in there.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
The person who wrote the article about the Secret Mall
at overhead. We need to tell them there used to
be a place called the Intimate Bookshop at the and
then to see where that story goes and see what
they do, because that just sounds it's really saucy, and
it's not. It's really not.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
It's like secret underground Charlotte stuff. Yeah, what a history
we have.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
It's only if you've been here as long as we have.

Speaker 6 (27:34):
And then don't forget about the Belmont Tunnel.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Look at it.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
You like that?

Speaker 6 (27:42):
I heard Mark laughing a little bit of that.

Speaker 14 (27:44):
No, because we had a guy on the on BT
for years. What was his name? He had an afternoon
show playing music and he always gave the traffic and
the bell Monte No, that's why.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
I'm saying it. Yeah, yeah, In fact, when we come back,
I can find that audio.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
Did he do it just to scare people?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Just I thought it was a Henry Bogan thing.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
It was not a Henry Bogan thing. Mark is exactly right.
I will play you. I'll play the audio from it
when we come back, because more secret Charlotte's uh huh.
It's like this is what gave way to the secret
over Street mall. No, I'm kidding. We're just starting rumors
today here.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Oh cool.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Other voices behind the mic during the Tyboid era included
John Evans, Rich Pauli, Dick Taylor, and Bill Curry, who
in nineteen ninety two recall this famous station story from
his days on the air.

Speaker 15 (28:31):
Somebody had called me talking about the atrocious traffic in town,
and I made mention of the fact, what we need
as a tunnel in this town, you know, with all
the traffic going into Gastonia one way, and Reno in
the back of the room says bigger than Bill BoNT
And the next day we began to get call. How's
that traffic in the Belmont Tunnel. That's the way it started,
really the night.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
So there you go, Bill Curry. I was trying to
remember that name.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Is that from the Rose Allen Show?

Speaker 14 (28:54):
No, he was a real guy.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Nike A chrome throw thunderstruck on her.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
I'm pretty sure the rites for that song will cost
too much.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
No, I already own it. He sets in the car
from News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine three Double
BT This is Good Morning Bet with bo Toobson at
Beth troutbit transform for the show.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
Off the WBT text lines driven by Liberty View at GMC.
You get this note says when I was in when
I was at the abbey, Belmont Abbey back in nineteen
seventy one, the Belmont Tunnel was supposed supposedly the tunnel
from the then men's Belmont Abbey and the Women's College
of Sacred Heart.

Speaker 7 (29:41):
Wow, Saucy, if you.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Dig deep enough the Belmont Tunnel stories will start coming.
And I'm not saying we're doing that today.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
If you dig deep enough you might find the tunnel.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
I get it. Tunnel seven four five, seven eleven ten.
A number of text coming in. It's kind of a
grab bag of things we've been talking about in the
last few minutes.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
Yeah, the randomness of our conversations went from ESPN to
Revcoh and Eckerd.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
So I have one person say that Adam Sandler in
the movie Blended named his kid ESPN. That's not what
I was thinking of, though, because even before the Blended movie,
there were news stories about people naming their kids espin.
That's been so it's been out there. And then now
that I think about that, that Blended movie, Yeah, I
remember that part too, and then people talking about let's
see here the Doug.

Speaker 7 (30:31):
It was fun. Doug said that his mom was a
hairdresser in Myers Park and he would walk over to
the Eckerds and he said, Eckerds with the S which
I love. And I would sit on a diner stool
at the grill counter and get a hot dog and
a sprite. And there was also a book nook at
the end of that strip mall by the current Haris
Teeter and you could trade in books there.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
He's not wrong because I used to get my haircut
in that same shopping center and it's the Colonial barbershop
is still there to my knowledge, but that's back in
the day. There used to be a store called youth Town.
There used to be the Eckerds, and then it wasn't
a Harris Teeter. Then it was the A and P.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
Wait wait they sell it.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, I was gonna say, pause button.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
What the youth Town like youth clothes? Oh, youth Town.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
So it was like food town, although he sold.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
Food, it was a clothing store.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
And then there's something from the Epstein files that what's
happened in there?

Speaker 6 (31:27):
But it was the A and P that was there
on the corner and a restaurant called the Townhouse.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
I remember the Townhouse. They had fantastic Roquefort dressing. My
grandmother used to take me there when I was five.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
What is I've heard of it?

Speaker 7 (31:40):
Like blue cheese?

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
It's across the street from where Myers Park Methodist churches
and Myers Park Presbyterian for that matter. But that whole
shopping center almost completely transformed to other things today. But
it still has the barber shop down at the end,
and I remember the booknook, and I think the cleaners
are still there. Maybe they're not.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
People say there's nothing to do in Charlotte.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
I know, they don't even know, they have no idea
that a hot dog countertop. I'm telling you that's that
was not a bad I loved getting a little hot
dog at the counter at Eckerds in Concord. My mom
around Christmas time used to give my little brother and
give me like twelve dollars and that we would get
set off into the mall to buy Christmas presents for

(32:20):
my parents basically, and we would end up inevitably in Echords,
and we would get my dad like an old spice
gift set, and my mom, you know, like a weird
perfume set of some kind. And then we would whatever
money we had left over, we would sit at the
Eckerds counter and eat hot dogs and probably spride or
coke or get a little milkshake or something. But it
was like twelve bucks and we could get all of

(32:40):
that for twelve dollars.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
Yeah, And then the whole neighborhood would would congregate around
the kind of rectangular table with all the little little
didn't have booths. You had to sit around one long table,
one long and you sit next to the person side.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
You and strike up chat about the world, strike up
a conversation sounds like your nightmare.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Was city next strangers had to talk to them.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
I was a kid and I had a buffer of protection.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
You didn't know better. You didn't know any better. But
you're right.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
The food at those places, especially the Eckers. And there's
one at South Park two right there when you walk
in across from the record Bar, there was an Echerds
right there. And again we're saying Eckerd. It's people say
it's Eckerd drug. We know Eckerds.

Speaker 7 (33:19):
We called it Ekerds.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
I love that you guys have become Henry Bogan. That's
what I love. You know, what do you remember backwhen things?
Do you know what we were loving aid.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
When we were in Charleston last year when we went
to the Battleship and did our show live, we went
after the show to an old drug store with a
counter and got hot dogs and egg salad sandwiches. Not
a lie, true story. We have a photo to prove it.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
I'm mad.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
It was like a nineteen twenties little drug store with
a with a burger counter.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
You, me and Ron Tollison.

Speaker 7 (33:51):
Yes, we all went together and just had little little
sandwiches and canned cokes. It was great.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
It was a snapshot in time. It really was. Because
I've told Jill before, the very first job that I
ever had was not here. It was close to the
same time period. But I worked at a place called
park Place Pharmacy, which is in the same shopping center,
or was where the Manor theater used to be up
there on Providence Road, And that's the same type thing.
In fact, one of the ladies that used to work

(34:17):
at the soda shop with me used to work Her
name was miss Barbara. She used to work at the
Eckerds Grill down by the church, but that place closed down,
so she came to park Place.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
You know what. The greatest thing and and Campbell sent
us a message from Concord and Campbell may have gone
to the Carolina mall right beside the Ecords was a
K and W and the lady I loved, the lady
of like serve you.

Speaker 9 (34:37):
Brand and.

Speaker 7 (34:40):
You could inevitably get this like brilliant hot just yeast roll.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Do they still have the one in Pineville on PEPTI one?

Speaker 7 (34:48):
I have no idea, no idea.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
It may still be there, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
And they had this steak, this chop steak.

Speaker 15 (34:53):
It was called.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
Chopwayth and.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
With chop steak chop wal yeah, chop.

Speaker 7 (35:02):
And that had this little like runny gravy and they
would put a little pickle on of.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Was the gravy.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
Yep, chop that was up the K and W. They
can Telba beside the Echords in Carolina Mall.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
It's fantastic seven thirteen on News Talk eleven ten WBT,
Bow and Beth and the Zoake and Henry and Steve
and traffic right now, Hello caller, Like Jim said, it's
like Henry. It's like Henry's here real.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
By the way, John Bluebell ice cream, Oh, it tastes
like the good old day.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
Have some have some Piedmont popcornp popcorn.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
That's the John just send us a text message that said,
y'all should totally start a new business. Bow and Beth's
Hidden Charlotte Tours, the.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
Real the Real Secret malls.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Surete, do you like one of those things? We have
to pedal? Like everyone has to pedal, and you know,
do you drink while you're going down town?

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (35:52):
We could just hold up hop on hop off old
pictures of what it used to look like.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
Steve, hang on, turn that music down for just a second.
Let's go uh skyview traffic now with Jeff Pilot.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Bankers, We're going to go over here, over Dowtown, Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Right now, look at moving and moving on independence.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
You can make you canna make people think that Jeff
Pilot was an auctioneer.

Speaker 13 (36:12):
Hey, guys, it was Eckerts and Belks.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
If you would pull out ads.

Speaker 13 (36:16):
In the Charlotte Observer, at that time everything had a
s Ivys, Belks, Eckerts, yeah, Grendels, all of.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Them had that.

Speaker 13 (36:27):
I don't know when it stopped, but there at the
time that it was Belks.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah. For a long time.

Speaker 13 (36:33):
I used to do a lot of research well for
old Charlotte, and that would show up all the time.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
And don't let them tell you it was j. C. Penny.
It was Penny PENNI yeah, Jac Penny, Yeah, I think.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
That's a Mandela effects thing. I think it really was
Jac Pennies.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
I don't know where it started, but that was the
way it was.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
It sure was.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Wait for it, here comes.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Johns told you you guys became the Hello Henry Show today.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
Hey, hello caller, we're talking with friends like you.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (37:13):
We need the Goostus Hello, seven O four five seven
eleven ten.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
I think we need more throwback things in this life,
you know. I think we need more just pure goodness,
just pure fun conversation. And I think you know what,
we've been getting so many texts about Eckert's about the
K and W down in Pineville. I think that there's
this kind of sense people.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
We I threw that out there. So the K and
W in Pineville is closed. That got replaced by Shelf.

Speaker 7 (37:39):
We did get Sheila let us know that the K
and W is no longer there. On Independence in Pineville.
Matthews Road and somebody else texted. They didn't leave us
their name. They said, it's now called the Korean pot.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Oh next to Trios.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
Which Trios is still there? I think it is. I
know it is. I rode past it the other day.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Do you know that.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
Ninety three when I was a senior in high school.
I just remember this because I was in I was
in student government. Surprise, surprise, but we had we had heard.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
What was your position? Were you the president?

Speaker 6 (38:10):
I was, thank you, vote for bo, vote for patron?
Actually a student body president, yep, I was there was.

Speaker 7 (38:21):
What was your what was your like what what I knew?
You probably made poster board signs.

Speaker 11 (38:25):
Right.

Speaker 7 (38:26):
What was your.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
Slogan bow nos?

Speaker 7 (38:28):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (38:28):
Because it was right when bo Jackson was doing the
bow nos campaign, and so it worked quite well.

Speaker 7 (38:34):
Mine was real in the trout Wait what trout wan
for student council?

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Wait?

Speaker 6 (38:37):
Were you student body president?

Speaker 11 (38:39):
No?

Speaker 7 (38:39):
Oh okay, I uh no, iran against my friend to
ensure that he would win.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
Oh okay, yeah, I see how that happens. Oh yeah, yeah,
it was.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
That kind of I thought you would have been more popular.

Speaker 7 (38:51):
I'm a student body secretary. But anyway, it was a secretary.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
We had our our when I was a senior in
high school nineteen ninety three, we had our our end
of the year banquet party at Trios, and I wrote
Trios as a restaurant out there on fifty one.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
You know, I threw it as in there. I think
it's actually Trio, isn't it? Or is it might be
Trio And we've been throwing stas on it.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
By the way, I just said, somebody said, don't forget
it's called Walmart's Walmarts.

Speaker 7 (39:13):
Yes, the Walmarts.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
You're the WBTS.

Speaker 7 (39:17):
It's not It's not wrong, but.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
I rode past it the other day and I said,
I can't believe that place is still there. Unless it's
just still there and just dormant, I don't know, but
it looked like it was.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
We went like ten years ago, and it looked like
it did thirty years, like it hadn't change, you know
that that kind of chrome and carpet colors.

Speaker 7 (39:34):
Of the same thing.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
They just looked like the love Boat like interior.

Speaker 7 (39:38):
I kind of wish that someone. I think they're always
looking for ways to revitalize big malls. I swear if
they just in a mall made it a retirement kind
of center for people our age and older, wa we
could all go.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
I would retire today, yes, And they would.

Speaker 7 (39:53):
Have an Eckerts and a K and W and like
an Orange Julia's and a Camelot Music and a couple
of bookstores and Spencer Gifts.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
And if you have a lot of money, had Charlie's,
I would leave right now.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
I would retire from the show and go there.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
So would that be brilliant?

Speaker 6 (40:08):
Have you seen?

Speaker 8 (40:08):
I mean they're they're actually taking old malls and taking
most of the time it's like the second floor on it,
you know, a dual level or sometimes a tri level mall.
And they're converting this, like the second and third floors
into apartments in a lot of major cities, in these
old quote unquote dead malls, and it's causing the first
floor to resurge in business.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
Now they're doing this at south Park, but it's a
little more expensive. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (40:33):
Yeah, it's a very small studio apartment that you could
afford at south Park. But if you did that, that's brilliant.
But if you did if it revitalized the lower floor,
if you did it with nostalgia stores, if you just
brought back nostalgia stores or the feeling of what it
was like to be in them.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Get to Orange Julius.

Speaker 7 (40:50):
Oh, get your Orange Julius, a hot dog on a stick,
you know, and with the weird hats, and bringing.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Back the ice skating rink.

Speaker 8 (40:57):
She gotta find some some land near some city and
you're all good.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Yeah, here's one from the text line. I met my
wife at the Woolworth at the Park Road shopping center.
She worked behind the food counter Best Grilled Cheese and
Charlotte at the time. Now, Woolworth is one we haven't
brought up. Of course, when I was a kid. We
called it Woolworth's because he got an But there was
a wool Was at South Park as well. Well, I
was one at Park Road. There's one at South Park

(41:21):
for all I know.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
There was.

Speaker 6 (41:22):
I don't know if there was one at Eastern East Eastland.
Probably was real quick. Let's get him on. Ken is
online number one. Ken, Welcome to Good Morning BT.

Speaker 16 (41:31):
Morning Bow and Beth. Good to talk to you again. Well, Ken,
I don't know if you remember the Eckers at the
corner of Trade and Tryan and right with the NCNB
Corporate Center is now and or Bank of America. But anyway,
it was a full serve restaurant in there. They had
about fifteen or twenty booths and tables in addition to

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the counter to get your hot dog, and they would
actually bring the food out to you to the table.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
Oh see, that's that's different.

Speaker 16 (42:04):
Top of the building was the old WBT radio advertisement
complete with the microphone. You remember that.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
I do I know exactly which one you're talking about.

Speaker 16 (42:16):
And that Echerds in there was the best in town.
They had great food and like I said, it was
a full serve restaurant.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
Well that sounds like.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
It would have great food. That sounds like my kind
of place. And if the people, if they brought back
the you know, the server uniforms like Alice used to wear,
you know that with the little hat and a little apron,
I would love that restaurant.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Anyway.

Speaker 16 (42:38):
I just saw you're going down that road. I thought
I would just bring that up.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
You thought they're going down that road. I got a call,
all right, Ken, thank you man. And that was not
part of the secret over Street mall. That was out
there in the open.

Speaker 7 (42:50):
It was just its own little place.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
You guys, you're trying figure out yesterday how to get
people back downtown at full service echords with yes, sit
down service and hot dogs out up, bringing back.

Speaker 7 (42:58):
In droves and free parking one hundred percome that part,
or just a dollar parking. Give me a dollar parking.
It don't have to be free, Just give me a dollar.

Speaker 6 (43:07):
We're gonna have an eckers at that Betha Center. See
this is where it's going.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
This is good Morning BT.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Seven thirty eight on WBT rainy morning out there be
careful lots of shower activity throughout most of our WBT
listening area. On your Tuesday, August fifth late in the
show yesterday had a visit from former White House Chief
of Staff Mick Mulvaney and US Senator Tom Tillis. Not

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often that you get two people like that with that
kind of access to what really happens behind the scenes
in Washington, DC. Not often you get an hour and
a half to sort of pick their brain. But that's
exactly what we did yesterday.

Speaker 7 (43:50):
Yeah, it was a fantastic conversation and if any of
you missed it, we wanted to share some of it
with you this morning.

Speaker 6 (43:55):
Yes, And a big question for Tom tillis these days,
what is what his thoughts about what has happened since
he made his decision. Former NCGOP chair Michael Wattley threw
his head officially into the ring. What's your relationship with him?
Have you talked to him? What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
You know, Michael's a good guy. I've known him for years.

Speaker 9 (44:14):
I know him back when first met him when he
was in d C advocating for energy policy.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
And kept track of him. I spoke with him his
latest Saturday.

Speaker 9 (44:25):
We've texted as late as yesterday, day before He's going
to have a knife fight in a phone booth you've
got Cooper, his very strong candidate. Most people didn't think
he was going to run against me, but something's caught
his attention, and Michael's got to be ready for the
most probably most difficult process he's ever been a part of.
Six hundred million dollar campaign. He'll be put under microscope.

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I think he's up to the task, but it's a
herculean task and I definitely don't want a Democrat to
replace me as I leave the Senate?

Speaker 7 (44:56):
Are you giving him advice?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Are you?

Speaker 7 (44:58):
Are you going to help guide him as he tries,
because he's never He's certainly been on the background a
lot of successful campaigns, but he hasn't been the front man. Yeah,
a different place.

Speaker 9 (45:07):
This is sort of like a coach deciding to get
on the field, and he's got to be ready. The
game's very different on the field than it is from
the sideline. So I think most people realize that once
they get into get into a race. So yeah, we've
first off, I'm assuming that the President will endorse and
clear the field a term last week structurally, but I'm
saying structurally, have the party get behind him so eliminate

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a serious primary challenge.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
I think that That's.

Speaker 9 (45:33):
A smart idea because we're going to need everything focused
on winning in November, and if we have a very costly,
bloody primary, that even.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Makes it more difficult for Michael.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
Now you said that, obviously Roy Cooper's name had been
floating in the mix. Sort of imagine what might be
what might be a race with you and Roy Cooper?
What about Roy Cooper versus Michael Whatley.

Speaker 9 (45:57):
Well, I think Michael needs to use the same mature
I would. It just won't be as personal as it
was with me. Look, Roy Cooper is not a bad guy.
I've got a friendly personal relationship with him. Got a
lot of liberal friends that I would never vote for.
But the reality is is Roy Cooper was walking around
the halls of the legislature when they ended up putting
North Carolina and one of the worst possible positions you

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could economically. When I became speaker in two thousand and eleven,
we were forty fourth in business rankings, and a lot
of that were bad decisions made by the Democrat leadership
over time, of which Roy Cooper was a part. We
came in and turned the state around, and Roy Cooper
in terms of economic success, he's kind of like a
callous he showed up after the work's been done. It

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was Republicans who reduced taxes, it was Republicans who reduced regulations.
It's Republicans that took us from forty fourth to one
two or three in business rankings.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
And if I'm Michael Whiteley, I'm going.

Speaker 9 (46:53):
After that and saying we cannot possibly return to the
policies that put us in an uncompetitive position, and Republicans
of Republican leadership that got us out of it.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
With all of that information, you know, in the back
pocket of someone like Pat McCrory when he was governor,
how do you think that Roy Cooper defeated him in
twenty sixteen even though all of that information was available.

Speaker 9 (47:16):
I think there were You know, it all comes down
to really just grinding it out having the money to
do it. Democrats always have more money in the state
than Republicans when you're running statewide, So it was probably
some campaign execution.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
And sometimes I think that Pat's almost too nice.

Speaker 9 (47:32):
I mean, when you get into the political arena, you
put on a blue jersey or a red jersey, and
you put your opponent to the map. Like I said,
I have no ill will towards Roy Cooper. We could
probably be friends. If I drink alcohol still, I'd drink
a non alcoholic.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Beer with them. I could probably have a beer with them.

Speaker 9 (47:47):
But I would never vote for him, and I would
never say that his policy strategy is going to be
a superior to a Republican strategy. I think a good
conservative limited government strategy catapulted this state into the forefront.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
I want to keep them there. I don't think Democrat
leadership in the Senate helps us to that end.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
US Senator Tom Tillis with us here on News Talk
eleven to ten WBT, part of our extensive interview that
you can hear the entire entirety of at WBT dot com.
When we come back. Tom Tillis has about a year
left on his term, his current term, and then he
has some time to kill after he leaves office. What

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exactly are his plans? What's he thinking about doing? We'll
pick his brain on that front.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
This is Good Morning BET with both Thomson and.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
Beth Troutman, ten minutes in front of eight o'clock on
your rainy Tuesday morning. It's August fifth. You got Bo Thompson,
Beth Troutman here in the historic ty Boyds studio where
late in the show yesterday you had a US Senator
in the ty Boyd studio.

Speaker 7 (48:51):
A US Senator and a former White House Chief of staff.
You know where else in town are you going to
get that conversation?

Speaker 6 (48:56):
I don't think anywhere. And if you were not here
for the conversation, you can hear the entire conversation on
demand at WBT dot com and wherever you get the
daily Good Morning BT podcast. Also remind you that we
have the seventeenth segment, brand new episode there, episode eight
that is fresh and ready for you. And back to
the conversation late in the show yesterday. Tom Tillis has

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been the subject of national headlines recently. He decided he's
not going to run again. So that begs the question,
what about the near future? What about the future? You
know down the road? So you know now when the
endgame is, so to speak, you made the decision that
you're not going to run again. So you have what
a little over a year left in DC. What is

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on the list of things to do before I leave?

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Seventeen months? But who's counting a lot? We got it.

Speaker 9 (49:48):
First off, we've got to make sure that we get
the president's legacy secured, and a part of that is
having members in the Senate who will give it him
advice that people around him are not. So one of
the roles that you all will never see, hopefully, is
my try to get my getting advice to the president
directly because I don't trust some of his advisors to

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look around corners make sure that we implement these good
ideas for policies, but they have staying power.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
There's also a lot of things that I intend to do.

Speaker 9 (50:16):
You know, I have the deciding vote on finance and
on banking and judiciary. I'm going to make sure that
all the President's good nominees make it through and going
to send a very clear message if you send somebody
up who crosses a red line that I have on
January sixth or other things, I'm simply not going to
allow them out a committee. I don't take that power lightly,
but it is one that I'm fully aware that I have.

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So I think I may be in a better position
now than if I stayed in the Senate to help
the President not suffer the consequences of bad advice from
some of these sick of fans who are working for him,
that it's a money model to them as much as
it is a legacy for this president of the United States.
So we're going to work on that, hopefully get things
right for health care policy, get the economy on try

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I can do and continue to build on a lot
of the great things President. I agree with eighty percent
of what he's doing. It's a twenty percent that could
get them in trouble. I'm going to try and make
sure that twenty percent doesn't happen to his legacy.

Speaker 7 (51:11):
Do you think that some of the advisors that he
has now if he doesn't have people who oppose maybe
ideas or maybe are giving him bad advice, do you
think those people have the ability to tarnish this president?

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Well, they will know.

Speaker 9 (51:25):
When you're hired as an advisor in your boss says
something that you think is bad and is going to
be bad for them, then you're a coward and you're
lying by not offering your opinion. I've been accused of
a lot of things, but the President has never accused
me of being indirect with him. When I'm giving him advice,
I've told him you can take it, but I'm telling

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you you have people in your circle giving you advice
that are not in your best interest. It may be
in their best interest, or it may be a ho
my beer. You watch this sort of interest on their part.
I'm here to make this presidentcful, not because I want
the president to be successful. I want this country to
be successful. I want the Congress to be successful. While

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on earth would anybody who's invested twenty years in getting
Republicans elected, getting conservative policy implemented at the state and
federal level want to undermine that legacy.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I'm here to make it shine.

Speaker 9 (52:20):
And he has people on his staff who need to
get out or get away from his ear because they're
the single greatest threat to his legacy. I told him
that just before I also told him he needed to
find a replacement in North Carolina.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
So Pete Heggsith Pete hegg Seth is somebody that is
probably the biggest example of somebody that's gotten scrutiny because
scrutiny because of where they came from and whether they
were qualified to begin with. And we don't have to
go back to the whole backstory of the confirmation process,
but what do you what do you think of the
job he's done? Thus far.

Speaker 9 (52:55):
I think that the I deferred to the Senat Armed
Services Committee. I said, I'm going to look at other facts,
but Senate Armed Services has to determine whether or not
he has the requisite skills. It's clear to me that
they were overly generous with his ability to run a large,
complex organization. He's he's got a C on a good day,
and a C minus on an average day, and a
D plus on most days. This is a large, complex

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organization that needs shaking up. Believe me when I tell
you there's a lot of way. Why did it take
ten years to find the next generation handgun?

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Right?

Speaker 9 (53:26):
So there's a lot of things, But you've got to
have someone who has large has a successful track record
and running large complex organizations to really drive out those benefits.
And I think, based on what I've seen now, piece
just not up to the test. Good guy, patriot, you know,
a hero. I'll give them all that, but there's a
difference between all that and being capable of running a large,

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the most complex and I believe, consequential organization.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
In the world.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
Do you guys think that he survives the term heye seth, yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Will?

Speaker 10 (53:57):
I mean the chances of any of them lasting all
four years just tostically is fairly low.

Speaker 9 (54:01):
When this guy, y'all got to keep in mind, and
President's first term, he had more sects than Spinal Tab
had drummers.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
I lost track at the end, but he's cross five.
It was five, so down.

Speaker 6 (54:16):
We ask you, what's what's on the to do list
between now and when you leave office? Have you thought
much about what comes after you leave office?

Speaker 9 (54:24):
Well, one thing I'm going to do is take control
over my calendar for the first time in about twenty years.
That those socks that I was showing you were my
three grandchildren, and I already spend a lot of time
with them, probably more than just about any member that
has grandchildren, because they're They and my wife my family
are top priority.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
And then I'll get into business. I've been working since
I was twelve years old.

Speaker 9 (54:44):
I got a worker's permit when I was twelve, paid
into Social Security thirty three dollars back in nineteen seventy three.
I don't plan on stepping away for that from some time.
I'll be sixty five at the end of this month.
I got a few more laps around the track, and
we'll figure that out after I try to do everything
I can to hardened this president's legacy is one of
the most successful presidents in modern history. Well, it's well

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within our reach as long as we worked together to
that end.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
US Senator Tom Tillis and Mick Mulvaney got a sitting
US senator and a former White House Chief of Staff.
They were with us for ninety minutes yesterday.

Speaker 7 (55:18):
You know what was one of the best parts of
that conversation. You have two insiders talking about the Secretary
of Defense and when they both said, you know, how
many did did how many sect deafs did did Trump
have in his first term? Sect deafs? I've never heard
anybody say. I mean, obviously it's Secretary of Defense, but
I have not heard that. I've not heard that that
shortened version.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I really know.

Speaker 7 (55:40):
Is that new to anybody else?

Speaker 6 (55:42):
Not at all?

Speaker 8 (55:42):
Okay, and I'm thinking maybe one of the first times
I heard this, ironically, would be on the West Wing.

Speaker 7 (55:48):
Oh well, I probably should have paid more attention to that.

Speaker 8 (55:50):
That's why, That's why I'm flabbergasted that you did not
know that.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
Have you heard of that show?

Speaker 7 (55:54):
Bel I've heard something about that show, But Sect Deaths
isn't that great.

Speaker 6 (55:58):
I remember one day I was sitting in this room
and at that point in time, I'd had a couple
of at least a decade or so in this business,
and we had a new news director. This is not Mark,
this is before Mark. We had a guy burst through
the door and he said we got a jip asapp.
And I kind of went, what a sap okay as
soon as possible? But he meant join in progress. But

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this is a guy who spoke in like he got
a jip asapp and everything was was abbreviated.

Speaker 7 (56:25):
And I'm guessing maybe the young the youngsters these days,
because they texted and abbreviations at all times, that maybe
everything will sound like well, they had five second gifts,
you know, not that any either one of them said
it like that. They didn't. I just you know, created them.

Speaker 6 (56:40):
I mean I say it as oki all the time.
WTF Why the face?

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I'll ask again, for what.

Speaker 7 (56:46):
Purpose was I brought here today so I could offer
you a job?

Speaker 6 (56:49):
I'm asking because I do not think that I am
any less inclined.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Toward here it comes.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
Did you say offered me a job?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
She would you thought from news talkie leven ted that
ninety nine three w BT.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Here's just a couple of four speed b BAB.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
I'll check out. This is Good Morning Beat with bo
Tumpson and Beth Trout.

Speaker 15 (57:10):
What do you want to do with your life?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
I want to rock.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
Eight minutes past eight o'clock. Kind of rainy Tuesday morning.
Boomer's traffic reports are like twice as long today.

Speaker 7 (57:31):
I know, be careful out there, folks, just you know,
be kind your neighbors, slowed down, don't drive fast through
the puddles.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
Zochie was talking about this idea that at least for now,
they're staying with sixty eight teams in the NCAA tournament.
But we know how this works. To get talking and
then you kind of normalize it, and then eventually a
few years down the line, we're gonna be at seventy
two or maybe even seventy six teams for twenty twenty seven.

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That yesterday from the NCAA Senior vice President of Basketball Operations,
And when you think about what this would actually mean.
The current sixty eight team format has been in place
since the twenty eleven tournament for the men and since
twenty twenty one for the women, and In both cases,
the expansion was incremental, an increase over sixty five teams

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for the men and sixty four for the women, And
of course that's created this new play in scenario. Now,
if you were to go to seventy six, then you're
expanding the play in round to eight or twelve games,
making for a potential complicated schedule if the play in
round remains a two day event. But you know, you know,
we joke about the day and invitational and now that's

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sort of become its own thing. And now if you're
going to add that many teams, the scheduling process is
what gets sort of complicated, and the TV partners and
it's a lot to it's a lot to figure out.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
It's just dumb, sally, right, Burgerty, that's just twenty four
hour sports. But it used to be a smaller field
than the sixty eight obviously we have now I think
it started at thirty two or probably even less than
that at some point. But anyway, they keep watering it
down and expanding it to just the not only the
regular season, but the conference tournaments just have no meaning.

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There's nothing to play for, so why not just go
ahead and do the old Hickory versus South Bend Central
and Indiana High School basketball. Just let everybody in. I
just play on your home courts for the first round
or two over a three day period, and then get
it down to the field of sixty eight or whatever
it's going to be at that point, because it's just
it's just no point in not just letting everybody just
be a part of the postseason. If you're gonna do all.

Speaker 7 (59:36):
That, I feel like you could run the NC Double
A Jim.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I feel like sometimes I could too.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
Isn't it interesting how the ACC Tournament is basically going
in the other direction, Well basically not everybody gets in,
like they're making it harder to get in, But the
NC DOUBLEA Tournament, I mean, eventually, are you going to
get to a point where you just you get a
participation trophy?

Speaker 7 (59:54):
Is that kind of what they're doing. Is they're just like,
come on in and the water's fine.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
No, no, no, Remember, it's always about money. So it's
just sports sports, televised sports games.

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
So it's not about welcoming more people.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Now, it's attaching more games to the NCAA tournament and
then you can charge more for the NC Double.

Speaker 7 (01:00:08):
A tournament and good ads just thinking they were being friendly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Yeah, so if you guys went to, like, I know,
you do it four hours now, not putting this out
there that you should do this, but if you've put it
six hours just because.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
Make even more oh oh oh, I mean because.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Its okay with that, right, they won't bring you like
four more co.

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Hosts, and we'll.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Just keep expanding, watering that of the product.

Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
We'll have the Tuesday night playing show.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
We'll eliminate co hosts.

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
We go Actually, how much fun would that be? You know,
just started kind of like the reality show who gets
eliminated from the conversation?

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Bad comment by Bob there. I don't think he'll make
it to the next segment. Bad take, Bob.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
I mean, you know it's like I watch what's happening
with college football, and you know that college football is
going to add more teams by the time, by the
time we get you know, fifteen years down the line,
they're going to be like twenty five teams. In that
tournament they jumped.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
From for football, they jumped from you know, just naming
a national champion to having two that would play to
four and that wasn't enough, as they skipped right all
the way over to twelve, and before they even rolled
out twelve ago, you know it's going to be sixteen, right,
So it's just like they don't these kids, I mean,
when do they go to school? They transfer so much
they play in all these games. It's like, when do

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they ever actually go to school and do academics. I'm
sure obviously there are some, but at the highest levels,
like in the Power four conferences. I mean, it's just
got to be negligible how much they're eve been actually
getting any.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Kind of it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Just to even pretend that they're getting an education. There's
just pure paid sports athletes.

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
Well, I will say this the last Olympics, I watched
it a different way than I was used to because
they used to be you watch the primetime coverage on NBC,
and then in recent years, you know, NBC's extended it
out over its number of Family of Network channels. But
this past Olympics, the Summer Olympics last year, I basically
watched it all on Peacock and he's.

Speaker 7 (01:02:03):
It was so fun.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
But if you take that logic to I don't know,
I mean, what if they get what if they have
over one hundred teams in the NCAA tournament. At some point,
what it's going to become is you're gonna have the
ability to stream them on your streaming service and basically
pick your games. And but it's not going to be
this entity that we know where every game is on
a network and sort of spotlighted. You know, it's going

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to be so crowded that you're just gonna have to
go through a needle in a haystack and find your team,
which will be out there somewhere because everyone will qualify.
That's kind of That's kind of the way I feel
like we're going.

Speaker 7 (01:02:36):
It's like a buffet. It's a buffet of your favorite
basketball but as Jim says, a buffet, they they've got
to maintain a way to monetize it and keep the
money growing. Well, if you are able to, and this
is just me thinking from a business standpoint, if you're
able to with an app like Peacock, and you're able
to to choose and select the games, like if you

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wanted to watch the Furman versus whatever other big a
big Ferman pusher that if you wanted to watch that game,
But if you were responsible for sales for ad sales,
and you were able to sell more games and sell
the ad space on the court and on the the
sidelines and on the uniforms and in the sporadic commercials

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that pop up in the online space.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
And now the players are doing endorsements.

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
Yeah, it's I mean, it makes it makes financial sense.
Even if you have watered down and given people too
many options, there are still those die hard fans who
want to watch that Furman game, and now they can,
like we watched the Olympics bow like we can go
and watch ping pong all day if you want to,
even though it's not on the main NBC broadcast, or
if I wanted to go watch that guy from from

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from Belgium, you know, shooting his little T shirt. Do
you remember.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Lost?

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
Yeah, oh okay, I thought you were like going to
say archery, and then you said t shirt.

Speaker 7 (01:03:57):
The guy that was that was like the target and
he just had on his little T shirt and everybody
else had these like scopes and stuff, and he just
came out all willy nilly with his gun and was
like bang bang and then walked off and he was amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Our friend, your friend Jeff Record down the hall at
FNZ he's a big cycling fan and he went to
the Tour de France this year. So it's like, you mean,
you'd be a guy that would watch all the Tour
de France coverage where you and I would probably never
think to even go over there. But you're right right,
very niche sports and things that people would like.

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
The buffet option of it.

Speaker 8 (01:04:24):
Yeah, I don't know if i'd watch march Manness, but
it's completely.

Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
Changed how I watch the Masters and a lot of these.
The PGA Championship ESPN gives the ability to go and
watch a certain grouping and if you watch it, if
you're a tennis guy like you guys know I am.
When the US Open happens or Wimbledon happens, you can
watch every match if you want to, when you find
it on the on the app. The problem for the
people at the top is you still have to find
a way to make the big games big and drive

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people to them. So it's one thing to give people options,
but it's another thing to make sure you still keep
a premium right on the games that you know are
appointment watching.

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
How do you keep it exciting? And it's great for
people like me who are like yay. I don't have
to go look at that buffet at all. I'm just
gonna I will.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
It make a difference, That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:05:09):
You have the option to skip it all.

Speaker 16 (01:05:11):
I know.

Speaker 7 (01:05:11):
I just skip it and read a book exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:05:21):
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Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
American consumers are getting thrifty again. According to the Wall
Street Journal, generic brands and bulk buying are on the rise,
and fewer fancy burritos are being sold.

Speaker 7 (01:05:53):
Was that a market that I missed out on? Just
the fancy burrita market?

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
What does that even mean?

Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
I don't know why everybody keeps looking at this side
of the room when this topic comes up, don't I
don't know what a fancy frozen burrito is.

Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
So I think what we're talking about here because according
to the recent data that was put together by it's
actually federal data they talked with the CEOs of places
like Chipotle, Kroger, and Procter and Gamble, which is dictating
how they're thinking about how people are shopping nowadays. But
that people are I guess, maybe aren't going to Chipotle

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for a big old burrito, but they're also that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
Would seem to be like a place you go to
Proctor and Gamble for a fancy, fancy breader.

Speaker 7 (01:06:35):
Right, And with Procter and Gamble, it just means that
people are really really feeling the pinch about going to
places like the grocery store and are choosing to go
to these big bulk stores. And I guess, with like
Procter and Gamble, instead of going to buy the five
pack of razors at maybe a Target or at a
Harris theater, instead you're buying the five hundred pack of
razors at Sam's Club or at Costco.

Speaker 6 (01:06:58):
Well, this same piece from the All Street Journal references
something that you immediately said, Oh, I know what that is.
I just did it, And I don't quite know exactly
what this means, but it says the what the heck
purchase is completely gone.

Speaker 7 (01:07:11):
Yes, that people aren't, so it's kind of that that
impulse buy at the cash register when you see that
random piece of candy or the weird gum that you've
never seen before, and you're like, know, what the heck,
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna buy it. Or maybe
that new brand of chips, the new flavor or something
that you're you don't know if you want to spend
five dollars on that bag of chips, but what the heck,
I'm gonna I'm gonna try it.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
You mean, when I bought the the diet cherry coke
because it looks like the can from nineteen eighty five
that the other day, yea, because I bought that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
Well that that's kind of a what the heck purchase?
But you love diet coke so much that for you
it would be I think what the heck purchase purchase
for you would be like I don't know, buying a
weird brand of socks or something like like, what the
heck I don't usually do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
And you'r a weird brand of sock. Yeah, I mean, Jim,
something you would they're both left footed.

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
But see when we had this conversation off the air,
you said, I just did what the heck purchase yesterday.

Speaker 7 (01:08:08):
I did it. I took a picture of it and
sent it to my brother. I was so excited. I
went to Harris Teeter just to do my normal I
usually go after the show to grab whatever it is
that I have decided to make for dinner. And I
made a what the heck purchase because they had a
brilliant display. And you guys know I love anything spicy
and I love anything salty. And they had spicy dill
pickle goldfish.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Oh that could be good.

Speaker 7 (01:08:31):
It was a giant bag of them, and they had
them two for five dollars. And I walked right past
the display, and you know what, I came back to
the display and grabbed the spicy deal pickle and it
was what the heck purchase?

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
I'd I have to tell you this. We go to
Trader Joe's not very often, like once a quarter.

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
They have a limited time potato chip that tastes like
a Cuban sandwich. And it tastes like a Cuban sandwich.
I know, you have pickles. You taste the pickle and
the mustard. It tastes like a Cuban sandwich and a
potato chip.

Speaker 7 (01:08:57):
Now see that's that would.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Be a take, not an ad.

Speaker 7 (01:09:01):
That would be a what the heck, That would be
a what the heck purchase? Because they're so good.

Speaker 8 (01:09:05):
Not for those of us from Miami, that's a I'm
going to Trader Joe's after the show to look for
this bag of chips.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
We ate it like in the car and the right
home there was like three chips left by the time
we got home. They're so good and they're not staying.
It's like a limited time thing.

Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
Well, this is what my wife calls the Boat Thompson
impulse buy.

Speaker 7 (01:09:21):
That's not what the heck is?

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
Yes, so what the heck purchase? Because that I mean,
that was the diet cherry coke can, because I don't
really like the cherry Coke zero. But they take diet
coke and they put cherry in it and they put
it in the old school can and that's like, oh,
that's kind of cool. I bought that, and Okay, it
tastes completely the same and you don't like it. I mean,

(01:09:41):
I thought to myself, I mean, this is I'm buying
this because of the way it looks, not because of
the way it tastes. But I'm an old school kind
of guy, so the what the heck purchase? I guess
my threshold hasn't been hit yet because I'm buying diet
cokes from a night nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
Well, and here this is the big question, though, how
effective are the big displays like the for the diet
at pepsi or the diet coke and for the deal
pickle goldfish? How effective are they going to be if
people aren't willing to experiment. Now, if they're not willing
to what the heck because prices are up and because
people are feeling the pain of the stress. I read

(01:10:18):
a survey this morning that that more than sixty percent
of people feel stressed out about buying groceries, and thirty percent,
on top of that, feel slightly stressed out about buying groceries.
So you're talking about maybe only around ten percent of
people who aren't feeling the stress of just buying groceries itself.
And that's what's dictating the oh, we're not going to
do what the heck purchase? But then you miss out

(01:10:39):
on Cuban sandwich, potato chips and deal pickle.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
You know it's a chip I didn't know I needed
till I got there, right, And.

Speaker 7 (01:10:46):
The deal pickle, the spicy deal pickle. Goldfish are delicious.

Speaker 6 (01:10:49):
Now we go from things you know, things you didn't
know you needed, to things that Mark Garrison knows you
don't need. Right, that would be Dirty Restaurant Tuesday coming
up here just after the news, and that we have
Brett Jensen coming up later on in the heaven.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Ah, that's right, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
It's time for order up Dirty Restaurant Tuesday.

Speaker 7 (01:11:09):
Why there's a fly in my so could you do
something about it?

Speaker 6 (01:11:13):
Ladies and gentlemen, Master of Ceremonies, Mark Garrison. Yeah, there's
big deep voice this morning. I feel good.

Speaker 14 (01:11:22):
I just sound like Berry White.

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
Yeah, it's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
I thought when you're sick and I was supposed to
go to work according to your own standards when I
was a segment.

Speaker 14 (01:11:28):
That's true, But that's a restaurant we're not. Do you
have no health training?

Speaker 6 (01:11:31):
That's no, I don't.

Speaker 14 (01:11:34):
Hey our first dirty this morning, Jersey Mike's no. What
in Valentine on Johnson Road? You used to live there
the thirteen Yeah and eighty eight.

Speaker 7 (01:11:45):
That the Jersey Mike's thing sub of both.

Speaker 14 (01:11:48):
Yeah, So let's see here, employees not properly washing their hands.
They had a lot of dirty dishes that were stored
as clean, but the inspector said, they're visibly dirty. Food
thermometer encrusted with grease and food crumbs.

Speaker 6 (01:12:03):
That's nasty. It's never a good word. Encrusted. No, no,
it's not cold.

Speaker 14 (01:12:08):
Holding units were not working and that's an ongoing problem. Tomatoes, lettuce,
mayo all too warm. The inspector said, get this fixed
or we'll take further action.

Speaker 6 (01:12:17):
Oh yeah, you want to you want in a sub shop.

Speaker 14 (01:12:20):
You want the stuff to be cold.

Speaker 7 (01:12:22):
There's nothing like warm mayo.

Speaker 14 (01:12:25):
Employees don't know the proper temperature for cooked beef. More
training needed. There were no dates on the dressings the
lettuce or tomatoes, so who knows how they were. Oh
this is interesting. Orange slime in the ice dispase?

Speaker 7 (01:12:39):
Orange orange? Never heard of that one.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Is that a combination of pink and yellow slaber? How
do we get orange? I guess it's redded.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
So there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
That's the jersey.

Speaker 14 (01:12:47):
Mike Johnson rode eighty eight and let's stay in Valentine
and visit the Imperial Treasure Chinese restaurant. Within eighty six,
the dish machine was in total disrept so they had
to close to get it fixed. And I called yesterday
and they had finally reopened. Guy said, yeah, we opened again.
I said, okay, well good. No management control when it

(01:13:11):
comes to food safety or cleaning where food is prepared,
the inspector said. The manager said, they don't check to
ensure if cold food is at the right temperature. They
just don't bother to check.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
Hmm.

Speaker 14 (01:13:23):
And what gem was referring to employees, did not know
if you're sick, don't come to work.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Okay, this only applies to restaurant.

Speaker 14 (01:13:29):
Radio, not radio, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Right, radio. We don't care.

Speaker 14 (01:13:32):
No soap or paper towels at the hand sink. The
manager says, well, we just grabbed napkins from the dining
room to dry our hands.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Off of people's laps.

Speaker 14 (01:13:43):
Yeah. Numerous items had no labels in English, and the
inspector said, by food code, you've got to have English
labels on the food. Let's see here, pans were stored
that were greasy to the touch. They had black slum
in the ice machine, and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
We'll close back.

Speaker 14 (01:14:04):
Black flyes and lots of flies in the kitchen. So
there you go. That's another one. In Valentine, the Imperial
Treasure Chinese restaurant. They had an eighty six.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Valentine used to be a proper place, that's right.

Speaker 14 (01:14:21):
Ooh, this is a good one. This is the Applebee's
in Lancaster, duck Into, South Carolina seventy nine.

Speaker 7 (01:14:27):
Oh, oh gracious.

Speaker 14 (01:14:29):
They had no warm water for hand washing, no hot
water that was adequate in the facility at all. They
were not sanitizing dishes at the dish sink. None of
the coal food was cold tomato, coal slaw, picoa guyo
lettuce flies throughout the facility, and dirty walls and floors
throughout the facility. And that's the Applebee's in Lancaster seventy nine.

Speaker 7 (01:14:52):
Applebee's.

Speaker 14 (01:14:53):
Yeah, good in the neighborhood, just not clean, eating dirt
in the neighborhood. Concord baw Warchie Indian Grill. They had
an eighty Oh they had some sauce that was dated
July the tenth covered with mold.

Speaker 7 (01:15:12):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 14 (01:15:14):
Yeah, but they had no soap at the hand sink.
An employee working with dirty dishes, then clean dishes without washing.

Speaker 6 (01:15:23):
Oh you love this.

Speaker 14 (01:15:24):
Bath flies everywhere and mice poop on the cans and
in the storage.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Oh no, those are poppy seats.

Speaker 14 (01:15:34):
Still made me laugh. I'll call is that right breath?

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
It's not right bread.

Speaker 14 (01:15:39):
Those those are pellets, Sir says, need to do a
better job washing all of the dirty dishes. That may
cut down on the flies and the mice. They were
just letting dirty dishes pile up. Apparently got a whole
ecosystem going there. Yeah, chicken tandory, pork chops and wings,
improperly cooling. So there you go. The Indian grill in

(01:16:01):
Concord and eighty and you've got time for one more?

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Sure?

Speaker 15 (01:16:05):
All right?

Speaker 7 (01:16:06):
They were This is the.

Speaker 14 (01:16:07):
Leslie Food Shop and rock Hill and eighty. The hand
sink was blocked with empty food containers. There was no
soap in the customer's bathroom. Oh, raw chicken and raw
pork were both stored in the same pan, and that
was a repeat violation. The buffet, Oh they have a

(01:16:27):
buffet there. Pork chops and potato wedges were thrown out.
They weren't hot at all. A bunch of food in
the cooler was too warm, so the Hints suddenly put
it over ice to try to cool it down, and
they were improperly cooling. No date on the rice or
the noodles, and no date on the chili they served. Oh,
and then there were dead flies on a glue strip

(01:16:48):
near the food prep area. Blue Stripp did this job,
that's right. So what would you rather have dead flies
dropping on your food? Or mice droppings?

Speaker 15 (01:16:56):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:16:56):
Six to one A half dozen of the other, right.

Speaker 7 (01:16:59):
I like the poo's worse.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Yeah, something about the word poo itself.

Speaker 14 (01:17:03):
They'd be a bumper sticker. I feel the pooh is worse,
But will it make a difference?

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Platter.

Speaker 14 (01:17:12):
So that's the Leslie Food Shop in rock Hill and
eighty and so there you go. Yeah, yeah, that's all
we got.

Speaker 6 (01:17:20):
Well, thank you Berry White.

Speaker 14 (01:17:23):
You here this morning.

Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
That's right.

Speaker 14 (01:17:25):
Good to see sugar. But wow, talk so funny. I
don't know if I rob me Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
I can't tell one for the others, I can't come on,
it doesn't seem to me.

Speaker 14 (01:17:44):
I take your fun please, deep Can you can you
intro boomer for us? No worry, baby, I don't checked
over boom a.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Shake.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Brother just wiped down my microphone when you're talking about Yeah,
can't enough of that stuff?

Speaker 13 (01:18:04):
Good morning until I get Marcos Satin smoking Jack.

Speaker 6 (01:18:10):
That's right, So bedroom slippers.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Got the lava that creaked up?

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Oh yeah, this is good morning Bet.

Speaker 6 (01:18:26):
Ten before nine o'clock here on News Talk eleven to
ten WBT Rainy, Tuesday, August fifth, you heard Boomer talking
about all the problems out there. Be careful, take extra
caution today because it's going to be a soaker for
most most of the day, at least during the commute
here we bring online right now. In fact, he's going

(01:18:46):
to join us at this time each week now Brett
Jensen on a Tuesday morning. Brett, good morning, Good morning.
So I want to play a clip here from your
show last night, and actually before I do, we can
set this up for a moment. Jernie Russ Ferguson was
on your show last night and you had him in
the studio for the full hour, as I understand, correct,

(01:19:07):
and you guys covered a lot of things. But I
want to I want to go towards the end of
the interview first here because this was whoops, that's not
what I wanted. That's here's what I wanted. This is
when you asked him specifically about something that's been on
the mind of a lot of Charlotte voters, Tijuana Brown,
who is getting set to watch what plays out between
now and the election.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
When might her case go to trial?

Speaker 17 (01:19:31):
Could it happened before the primaries in September for city council?
Could it happen, you know, prior to the election in November?
Or is it something that could be happening in twenty
twenty six Because a lot of us don't know how
these things work, So what kind of timeframes are we
looking at?

Speaker 18 (01:19:48):
Yeah, and I can't tell you in her specific case
because I don't know, And I can tell you in
fraud cases, which is that Her case is, you know,
one of our run of the mill fraud cases.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
It's a PPP loan fraud case.

Speaker 18 (01:20:00):
And fraud cases there are a lot of documents, and
the first thing we do when we indict a case
is give all the documents and all the information we
have to her lawyer, to the defendant's lawyer. So she's
got a very good lawyer, rober Roy, who'll go through
all those documents and to some extent, it's up to
him how long it takes. Not entirely, but it is
not uncommon in a fraud case. For defense counsel to

(01:20:21):
ask for more time so they can get through all
those documents. Sometimes they have to hire an expert, you know,
an accountant or something to go through it, depending on
what their defense is. And I don't know what her
defense will be, so that can add months to the process.
Whereas if we had, you know, a simple gun case
or something like that, we can go to trial much
much quicker. So it is not abnormal in a fraud
case for a fraud case to take a year. It

(01:20:43):
doesn't always happen. It just kind of depends on the documents.
The defense is what's going on. That's a three co
defendant case with documents, tax returns, you know, all sorts
of stuff. I suspect it will take a while. Now,
that's in a normal fraud case. Her case is a
little bit complicated because she is running for reelection and
I have committed to doing everything we can to make
sure that case does not affect an election. And so

(01:21:05):
we will have to work with our attorney to see
if that means going to try before the election or after,
or how that does. Because she's got to balance getting
a full and fair defense with not affecting her election.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
And so and we had that in mind.

Speaker 18 (01:21:17):
We indicted her early enough to build that time in,
and had we discovered this case a little later, we
probably would have held off even indicting it until after
the election because we want to be very careful about
affecting an election. So, because all we've done is make allegations,
I mean, she has innocent until proven guilty. She will
have a full and fair trial if she decides to
do so. And so that case is unique for that

(01:21:38):
little wrinkle, But in a normal fraud case, it's not
abnormal for it to go a year plus or minus
a few months.

Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
Russ Ferguson, US attorney, on breaking with Brett Jensen last night. Now,
we remember talking about how politics sort of overlap with
legal proceedings when we were watching on a national scope
what happened with President Trump leading into his his re election,
all those court dates that they had to sort of
weave in and around with all the regular election stops.

(01:22:07):
But here we have this sort of playing out in
a different way, different case. Obviously on a local level,
and she has correct me if I'm wrong, but she
has shown no indication that she has any intention other
than running like she normally would.

Speaker 19 (01:22:22):
Yeah, you know, you know, there was that crazy mix
up where she said that she sent out a test
or fake email or whatever where she said she wasn't
going to run for reelection, and then she did and
she filed. So you know, even at her initial press conference,
Tea Wanner Brown said, Oh, they're doing this because they
don't want me to run for reelection, and which was

(01:22:43):
maybe one of the more outlandish things that she's ever said.
And this is coming from a woman who has said
a lot of outlandish things. So you know, it is
it is interesting because you know, Patrick Cannon was already
in office when all this happened, and so she does
have a fraud case and conspiracy to commit fraud against

(01:23:04):
her and her two daughters for taking one hundred and
twenty four thousand dollars and what the Fed's claim are
ill gotten PPP loans. So it is it is interesting
to see if it's gonna you know, I said at
this point, it feels like, you know, listening to him
last night, it feels like this will be well after

(01:23:24):
the election, you know, because maybe they want time, you know,
tax records and accountants and everything to go through, you know,
the plethora of documents that they were like, look, he
was talking about tons and tons of documents.

Speaker 7 (01:23:38):
You know, all of us are really plugged into local politics,
state politics, national politics. I wonder if this story is
out there enough that it impacts this election cycle for her.
Do you think that it will have an impact? I mean,
I know that he said innocent until proven guilty, But
does the story itself, do the allegations themselves, do they

(01:24:01):
end up impacting the election? And do enough people in
the voting public know about it well?

Speaker 19 (01:24:07):
And that's you know, when you look at her race,
I believe, other than the mayor, I think her race
has the most candidates because so many people were I guess,
maybe troubled by the fact that you know A. I mean, yes,
she was already a convicted felon, spent four years in jail,

(01:24:28):
you know, for like credit card fraud and stealing things,
social Security numbers and stuff like that. You know some
you know twenty thirty years ago, but now you know,
here are more charges of fraud. And if you look
at all the people that are in her race in
the primary, and you sort of wonder, just from an
analytical point, Beth, if you know A, if enough people

(01:24:49):
know about it. But also okay, maybe all of those
that are running against her in the primary split the
vote and then she walks away, you know, with a
thirty percent victory, sort of like what happened with Mark
Harris when he won. I mean people forget Mark Carris
won by like seventy two votes, Like he got like
seventy two votes, just enough to get the thirty percent

(01:25:11):
so there wouldn't be a runoff for US Congress. And
so maybe she gets the thirty percent, you know or
something in that it make sure.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Just just barely because all the others split the vote.

Speaker 19 (01:25:22):
But I don't know how much how many people in
her district.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Know that she has been indicted, yeah, because she hasn't
been charged.

Speaker 19 (01:25:31):
I mean, she hasn't been found guilty. She's been indicted,
and you know, out of sight, out of mind theory,
I mean possibly, I just don't know how many people
in her district will.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Know about it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:40):
So District three does have at the district level, the
most candidates. You've got to Tijuana Brown and you have
three other people. There is a Republican candidate, and there's
an unaffiliated candidate that's trying to get enough signatures to
be placed on the November ballot, so people see that
there's some some stuff going on behind the scenes here
that make this a very unusual seat. We got a

(01:26:00):
few more seconds here. What's coming up on Breaking with
Brett Jensen tonight?

Speaker 19 (01:26:04):
Well, you know, tonight is first night, so you know,
we'll talk a little bit about that, and because it
is a national thing going on right now, and you know,
I know that we're a news show, but you know,
we still want to take a look at the Carolina Panthers.
You know, they had their fan night the other night
on Saturday night, and I will tell you, you know,
I don't know if you guys filed around town, but
people are actually talking about the Panthers in a positive

(01:26:27):
way for the first time in eight years.

Speaker 11 (01:26:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:26:29):
People, So, people around town and people out of town. Yeah, exactly,
so exactly.

Speaker 19 (01:26:34):
So we're going to look into a little bit of
the Carolina Panthers tonight as well as some local news
that's going on. But we'll look at a little bit
of the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 6 (01:26:41):
Breaking with Brett Jensen every night six o'clock now six
till seven right here on News Talk eleven ten WBT.
Thanks Brett, appreciate it, guys. News Talk eleven ten, WBT
almost nine o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
From News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine three bet.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Yeah, the energy in this place is just amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Pure energy. This is Good Morning Beat with Bo thumbson
and Beth Trout with.

Speaker 7 (01:27:08):
What I'm talking about is the pulse of the collection.

Speaker 6 (01:27:11):
Come it a little percussion.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Hey hey, hey, rain.

Speaker 6 (01:27:18):
Coming down all over the Charlotte area. Be careful, Bow
and Beth final stretch on a Tuesday. Glad to have
you aboard. And oh, by the way, he's seven oh
four five seven oh eleven ten is the text line
driven by Liberty Buick GMC. Now I know this, this study,

(01:27:40):
what I'm about to tell you about is not about
me or Beth or anybody in this room. Most Americans
climb into bed by ten thirty six pm, but don't
fall asleep until eleven eighteen.

Speaker 7 (01:27:51):
So that means forty forty minutes of just kind of
staring off into the ceiling or wishing for sleep or
hoping for sleep, or potentially distracting yourself and preventing sleep.

Speaker 6 (01:28:05):
Well, and what I'm talking about is none of us
go to bed that late. All the people in this
room go to bed at you know, if everything's going well.
People ask me all the time, like what time do
you go to bed if you're going to get up
that early, and I always say, and have for ten
plus years now, it's not about going to it's not
about getting up early. It's about going to bed at
the right time right, which a lot of times in

(01:28:25):
my world I'm fighting that, like I want to watch
Monday night football and I want to watch the Grammy Awards,
or I want to watch a game that's on or whatever,
you know, a debate and debate season. I was thinking
the other day last year this time when we had
summertime debates that went on for several hours, and you
have to not only see all of those debates, but

(01:28:45):
you have to you also kind of want to see
what's said after them, right, So that ends up being
like a really a predicament to be in if you
have to get up really early, because you've got to
make sure that you go to bed and have at
least enough sleep to be somewhat fresh.

Speaker 7 (01:29:00):
Right, because you need to be able to think through
sentences and thoughts and speak coherently.

Speaker 6 (01:29:05):
So I'm kind of glad it's nice this summer not
to have these late debates going on, but there have
been ball games that I wanted to watch. But anyway,
So whatever time you go to bed, whether it's when
we go to bed, which is earlier than most, or
maybe it is ten thirty six, is that like an
average time that you go to bed. Does it take
you forty minutes to get to sleep like anybody in

(01:29:25):
the room. It doesn't take me that long. No.

Speaker 7 (01:29:29):
Last night, for whatever reason, is something caught up to
me and I was exhausted, and I'm not gonna lie.
I think that I washed my face and crawled into
bed at seven pm. I have blackout curtains in the bedroom,
so I just close those right up. And my husband
doesn't go to bed when I do, obviously because he
has a normal schedule. But he came in and just
rubbed my head for a few minutes, which is my

(01:29:50):
favorite thing in the world. Just play with my hair
a little bit. Fell asleep in two seconds. Two seconds.
I also in this stage of life, I take progesterone
as part of the process of pyramenopause, and that is
a delightful little uh, a delightful little relaxation trick and

(01:30:11):
who knew.

Speaker 6 (01:30:11):
See, I know people who have a process, like in
other words, there's a start, there's a step process from
when I decide it's time to go to bed to
when I actually am in bed and out like a
light me. It doesn't matter if it's a weekend night
or or last night. If I can, I can turn
on a diamond go to bed. I mean, it doesn't
take me very long. I know some people say, okay,

(01:30:33):
well I have to take a bath, and then I
have to listen to music, and then I have to
turn the phone off at X time. And it's basically
like you have to sort of begin the process, like
like a plane starts the descent, you have to start
the descent and when you actually fall asleep. I've always
been the kind of guy that like, I'll just kind
of push it and then I'll go all right, game.

Speaker 7 (01:30:51):
Off and you can just lights out just most of
the time like a switch.

Speaker 6 (01:30:56):
Like. But I've also told you all too, I like
to have the TV on in the back when I
go to bed too. That's sort of like a like
soothing to me. Last night I got into bed and
I could already tell I'm so tired right now that
I don't even need the TV on like usually I
want the TV on because I'm still somewhat I want
to hear something I just don't. I don't like to

(01:31:16):
just kind of as much as I can turn the
light off and on, I like to have something that
I hear. Maybe it's that hole why I do radio,
I don't know, But last night I didn't need any
extra stimuli. I just said all right, boom, and I
was gone in like two minutes.

Speaker 7 (01:31:29):
I have a pretty strict I try to get in
bed at the same time every night. I try to
be in bed by seven thirty because I know what
time wake up time is, and I also know what
I want my morning schedule to be because I get
up earlier, probably than I need to. But I need coffee,
I need to watch the news. I need my alone
quiet time to wake my system up. In orban thirty

(01:31:51):
seven thirty. Yeah, I try to be in bed by
seven thirty. And my body now and my dogs are
now on my schedule too. My body starts doing it's
it's kind of shut down, relaxed for the evening kind
of thing. So have I do have my routine of
washing my face and brush my teeth, and then I
take the progesterone and I get it. I know that

(01:32:12):
all the men out there are like what. But the ladies, ladies,
you probably know what I'm talking about. And then I do.
I turn on. Usually it's either The Big Bang Theory,
How I Met Your Mother? Or Friends. Those three shows
will absolutely just knock me right out. That's my white noise.

Speaker 6 (01:32:25):
So you last night seven thirty?

Speaker 7 (01:32:27):
Last night? I was early last night. It was about seven.
I cleaned up the dinner dishes and I was feeling it.
I was just feeling exhausted, so I crawled. I went upstairs.
I was like, honey, I'm going to bed early. And
I just crawled into bed and I was out like
a light.

Speaker 6 (01:32:40):
So when you go to bed at seven thirty, are you?
Are you up until eight ten? Like this says not usually?

Speaker 7 (01:32:46):
Not usually, because I have I've tried to train my brain.
But the majority of this study, it's from talkers, and
they studied two thousand different Americans. They said the common
reasons for actually staying up and not being able to
fall asleep. Twenty nine percent of people said they had
unfinished chores and that may mean that they are up

(01:33:07):
trying to do those chores or in a lot of cases,
especially for women, I think you're thinking about it and
you can't fall asleep. You're thinking about those chores.

Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
Most Americans think they're ready for sleep by ten thirty
six pm, but their brains have other plans. A new
study in the study we're talking about, shows that the
average person lies awake for forty two minutes before actually
falling asleep at eleven eighteen pm, and wakes up three
mornings per week wishing they'd gone to bed earlier.

Speaker 7 (01:33:33):
Yeah, three mornings per week, wishing that they had gotten
more sleep. And so as you're thinking about sleep and
you're not sleeping in those times, chores are a problem.
I get this one. Savoring the quiet nighttime hours. Some
people don't want to fall asleep because they love the quiet.
It's the only time they get to themselves during the day.

(01:33:53):
I don't know why I'm whispering that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:55):
And then you don't want to wake anybody.

Speaker 7 (01:33:56):
Up, right, I don't want to wait people up. But
fifteen percent of people, though, you don't want to fall
asleep because they know that when they wake up they
have to go to work again. And so fifteen percent
of people aren't falling asleep because they don't want to
go to work. They're avoiding the next work day.

Speaker 6 (01:34:09):
Now, Steve send us a sort of an ancillary story
to this. If you wake up between three and five
am without an alarm, your brain is trying to tell
you something very important.

Speaker 7 (01:34:20):
This is a big deal, folks. You need to pay
attention to your circadian rhythm cycles because this is your
body trying to tell you something. According to this study,
what's it.

Speaker 8 (01:34:29):
Trying to tell Well, so, according to that article, is
your cortisol levels, which is kind of that hormone that
everybody has.

Speaker 7 (01:34:39):
This stress hormone.

Speaker 8 (01:34:40):
Yeah, but it also helps you to regulate your sleep
and dream That helps regulate your circadian rhythms, and that
normally for most people, typically around two or three in
the morning, your cortisol levels start a rise, which would
normally as far as a typical circadian rhythm, you know,
a day night routine would have you waking up sometime

(01:35:02):
you know, six, seven, eight o'clock in the morning, so
the cortisol levels start to rise. But cortisol is one
of those hormones that also helps your brain to kind
of go through all of your memories and deal with
your stresses and what have you of the day and
just kind of basically what's the word that I'm looking
for here, kind of breaks down your day from the

(01:35:25):
day before. Well, if it's already hitting you at three, four,
five o'clock in the morning and you are like bolt
awake at three or four or five, basically what the
article is saying is it's your body saying there's something wrong,
like you're you're overly stressed about something, so the cortisol
is not really doing its job or it's in overdrive.

Speaker 7 (01:35:46):
Do you want to hear about perimenopause again? Guys?

Speaker 8 (01:35:48):
Are you bolt awake at three, four or five in
the morning?

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
But you don't have to be.

Speaker 7 (01:35:51):
It's a very common symptom of perimenopause, is that middle
of the night wake up, staring at the ceiling and
being wide awake. And it has to do. It's the
same thing with hormone levels, more cortisol than you might
have estrogen or testosteronea progesterone or whatever it is going
on in your body. I know that you guys love
it when I talk about this, but it's a real
thing and that you're right that that system is alerting

(01:36:14):
you to the fact that you've got an imbalance going on.

Speaker 6 (01:36:17):
It says, in a perfect world, the rise is gradual,
gently nudging you towards consciousness around six or seven am.
But for many of us this system has gone haywire.
Welcome to our show, because we have to wake up
for our jobs in that sort of danger time and

(01:36:38):
it's nothing gradual about it. It's like witching time to
get up, get a shower, and basically you're gonna thrust
yourself into this world and do a radio show yep.

Speaker 7 (01:36:46):
And talk to a lot of other people who are
getting thrust into the world as we are getting going.
But we have a lot of people who are weighing
in on our text lines. We'll have to read some
of those when we come back.

Speaker 6 (01:36:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
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Speaker 5 (01:37:09):
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Speaker 6 (01:37:27):
Four five seven oh eleven ten. The text line is
jamming Alan said, how does one know when one falls asleep?

Speaker 7 (01:37:36):
Which I think is the perfect question, because how do
you know exactly? This would have to be people being
sleep studied with the all of their little probes and
stuff on. Not probes, what are they little sticky things.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
Oh yeah, like a sleep study.

Speaker 7 (01:37:48):
Sleep study, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I guess people's watches
now and they have apps and things that tell you
exactly when you fall asleep and exactly how long you've
had r em sleep, exactly how long you've stayed asleep,
to tell you all of that stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
I was supposed to have this really elaborate sleep study
about two months ago, and I was all ready to
do it. I even took a day off from work
to do it. I remember that, and then I went
the night to do it and it was the wrong night,
so I never had it done.

Speaker 8 (01:38:13):
Need to get yourself some more sleep and you remember
the right day, right right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Well.

Speaker 7 (01:38:17):
One of the biggest things that I think people take
for granted is that if you are going to get
good rest and good sleep, you need a sleep schedule
that you need a you know, if you're going to
go to bed, go to bed every night at the
same time, try to get up at the same time,
and your body gets accustomed to that sleep cycle and

(01:38:37):
you don't mess up that weird circadian rhythm or the
weird hormonal balance that your body might have.

Speaker 8 (01:38:43):
Well, and even just a routine as well. Yeah, just
being routine based kind of tells your body and your
brain specifically, which then tells your body like, Okay, this
is sleep time, this is I'm doing these things in
this you know, in this particular order or whatever to be.

Speaker 6 (01:38:59):
Ready to go to sleep.

Speaker 7 (01:39:01):
And I kind of love that so many people are
weighing in on this and saying that exact thing. Tony says,
eight thirty pm to four thirty am, seven days a week,
three hundred and sixty five days a year, work night
or weekend, it doesn't matter to me. I've been doing
this for years. Most nights, I'm asleep before the light
even goes out or before I pull the chain. And

(01:39:23):
I think that's the key. If it's the kind of
the same time, the same routine your body knows, like
Steve was saying, and then maybe you don't have that
forty minute brain cycle of just kind of staring at
the ceiling.

Speaker 6 (01:39:34):
And what you're talking about. If you're just joining us.
The average don't falls asleep at eleven eighteen pm over
forty minutes after they get into bed, which for most
people is ten thirty six. That's like the median time
that if you work a regular you know, nine to
five schedule you have dinner at a you know, in
the early evening ten thirty six is kind of the bullseye.

Speaker 7 (01:39:55):
I've never One of the weird things about a career
like this one is that I've never had a normal schedule.
What everybody would say is like a nine to five
because I was either doing mornings where you get up
at two am, three am, three thirty am, or I
did evening news and I didn't get home until one am.
My body was all out of whack. You know, it
couldn't figure out when it was supposed to go to sleep.

(01:40:17):
But with this show, I have scheduled it. I have
figured out the routine. I've the blackout curtains, I have
my evening time, and I feel much much better because
of it. And you know, plus I'm older now your
body needs a little bit more attention.

Speaker 6 (01:40:32):
Well see, people ask me all the time do you
take naps? And I say no. My wife would disagree
with that. She would say that you doze off all
the time. But I don't take like I don't. I
don't say I'm going to go take a power nap
because that's never worked for me. Like to me to
get what I need to get out of a nap.
I need to fall asleep, like really asleep three hours

(01:40:53):
or several hours, and I'd never have time to do that,
so I don't start like I know people who my
grandfather used to say to me he would take ten
minute naps, and I would be like, no, that like
to me, if you a ten minute NAP's not going
to give me what I want. It's going to make
me more tired, I think, because it's gonna make me
want more.

Speaker 7 (01:41:12):
The Wainiac would do that. I remember that as a kid.
He would come home for his lunch hour and he
would eat whatever was leftover in the refrigerator, and then
he would lay down on the sofa with his hands
just across his chest and would power nap and even
sometimes snore for about ten maybe fifteen minutes. But there's
a thing that people swear by. I've never tried it
called the caffeine nap, where you're supposed to, like drink

(01:41:34):
a coffee or a shot of espresso and then immediately
nap and then for about twenty minutes and then wake up,
and that's when the caffeine has started to kick in.
And then you're supposed to be like, whoo ready to
take on the day. I've never tried it, so.

Speaker 6 (01:41:46):
I'm doing it wrong. That means I should take twenty
of those a day?

Speaker 7 (01:41:50):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 6 (01:41:51):
No, I'm talking about judging by how much diet coke
did I drink? Oh oh yes, So if I were
going to do that, I'd be doing it like every
ten minutes.

Speaker 7 (01:41:58):
Just I was about to say, if you did twenty
shot of espresso a day, No, no, no.

Speaker 6 (01:42:02):
But collectively I probably have that much. Well I'm I'm
I'm I'm creeping up on it.

Speaker 7 (01:42:08):
You're pretty caffeinated, Yes I am, no, but I mean
I drink.

Speaker 6 (01:42:11):
I drink more, more more caffeine than the average cat.

Speaker 11 (01:42:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:42:16):
I think with your diet coke for sure. Yeah, because
I'm one cup of coffee two max during my day,
maybe sometimes a nice tea. But I can't have caffe
I'm very caffeine sensitive. I can't have caffeine past a
certain time of the day.

Speaker 6 (01:42:27):
Well, see, I drink it a lot. But then again,
I'm not a red bull guy like I am. Well,
actually I take that back. I'm a red Bull guy
one night a year, and it's usually the night that
I have to come in here and do election coverage
because when I have to stay up late, I'll come
in and drink the Red Bull. But then I won't
I won't stay with it. It tastes awful.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
I agree.

Speaker 7 (01:42:44):
I think it tastes like medicine.

Speaker 6 (01:42:46):
It tastes like it tastes like you know, you said
the pixie sticks when you were a kid. Oh, taste
to me like if you if you take the pixie
sticks and put that in water and drink it.

Speaker 7 (01:42:54):
Oh see I liked pixie sticks.

Speaker 14 (01:42:55):
Yeah, they were sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:42:57):
I think Red Bull tastes medicinal.

Speaker 8 (01:42:59):
There's like I think that's the touring.

Speaker 6 (01:43:02):
Is that that flavor? But you know what it gives
you wins.

Speaker 7 (01:43:06):
I've heard.

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Speaker 7 (01:44:23):
Yeah, check it all out, all bow and all bo
and Beth all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:44:27):
Nancy Mace made it official yesterday, first via a message
that she posted on her social media platforms, you know,
the announcement with the pre produced montage of things. But
then later in the morning she also spoke to a
group of people in South Carolina.

Speaker 20 (01:44:47):
I am running to be your governor of the great
state of South Carolina.

Speaker 7 (01:44:55):
There we go, baby, South Carolina. First, I didn't.

Speaker 20 (01:44:58):
Come to join the club.

Speaker 7 (01:45:01):
They don't want me.

Speaker 20 (01:45:03):
And I don't want them.

Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
I came to hold the line.

Speaker 7 (01:45:13):
They said stay quiet.

Speaker 20 (01:45:15):
I spoke up, they said sit down.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
I stood up.

Speaker 20 (01:45:20):
They said play nice, and I fought back. South Carolina
is tired of politicians who smile for the cameras, lie
to your face, and then vanish when it's time to lead.

Speaker 7 (01:45:35):
I'm not one of them.

Speaker 20 (01:45:36):
I'm running for governor because South Carolina doesn't need another
empty suit and needs a governor who will fight for
you and your values. South Carolina needs a governor who
will drag the truth into sunlight and flip the tables
if that's what it takes. South Carolina doesn't need another

(01:45:58):
politician who folds when things get tough, and heed's a
governor who will always stand tall, no matter the odds.
I wasn't built to kiss the ring. I just wear one.

Speaker 7 (01:46:13):
I don't answer to the establishments.

Speaker 20 (01:46:15):
I don't owe those in the back room a single thing.

Speaker 6 (01:46:19):
Nancy Mace Congresswoman Nancy Mace now officially in the race
for governor. Of course, Ralph Norman also in the race,
and a number of others. Norman made his announcement last week.
There have been a few initial polls, one of which
shows her as the front runner right now, and I
don't know how much that means at this point, but
it is worth noting right.

Speaker 7 (01:46:39):
When sometimes people, if polls are put out right as
someone announces that they end up being the front runner
because it's the name that people recognized you the most,
the most, because they're seeing that name in headlines or
seeing it on the news. I actually would I would
love to know. I'd love to hear from our South
Carolina listeners and know how they feel about about Nancy

(01:47:00):
Mace and if they think that this is a great
idea for the state of South Carolina. I would love
to hear from folks who would be impacted by her
run and by her serving as governor if if she
were to win.

Speaker 6 (01:47:15):
The survey from the nonpartisan research organization South Carolina Policy
Council found that Mace had a sixteen percent portion of
support from Republican identifying voters, one point ahead of State
Attorney General Alan Wilson, who launched his campaign last week.
The Lieutenant Governor Pamela Yvette had eight percent, Ralph Norman

(01:47:37):
six percent, and State Senator Josh Kimberl three percent. Now
those numbers I just read you were technically before Nancy
Race made it official.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:47:48):
But I mean, people knew she was going to she
was teasing it, and so it was sort of writing
on the wall. But for what it's worth, she has
a sixteen percent percentage. She has sixteen percent of the
of the electorate according to this early early poll.

Speaker 7 (01:48:02):
And sometimes name recognition is really well. Not sometimes all
the time, name recognition is really helpful, especially in a primary.
And she has done again. Whether you like Nancy Mace
or not, she's done an excellent job, especially in the
last year of getting her name out there. She was
a speaker at the RNC, but she's also made headlines
both good and bad for what she's been doing in

(01:48:24):
the house.

Speaker 6 (01:48:25):
So there's a name to watch, Nancy Mace. And of
course no doubt we'll hear more from her. She has
made it her business the last year or so to
just be out there all the time. Every time you
look at your phone, there it seems like there's a
viral video of something that she's ind done.

Speaker 7 (01:48:39):
So whether it's from a drugstore or a gas station
or from the house floor.

Speaker 6 (01:48:45):
Solving the world's problem.

Speaker 14 (01:48:46):
Dal all right, I think okay, gang, appreciate that I'm
getting into a little heavier traffic here.

Speaker 11 (01:48:53):
But I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 16 (01:48:54):
You make my morning better every day.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:48:58):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (01:48:59):
Al thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (01:49:00):
You can call us Bow and Beth.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
This is good morning, Beatty.

Speaker 6 (01:49:12):
Or Beth, Betty, Beth al Bo. We're all here carrying
on the torch here rainy Tuesday morning. It's August fifth,
final stretch here of us. We got to Vince Cokeley
coming up at the top of the hour. We were
talking about Nancy Mace, who officially got into the race
yesterday via social media and then she had a brief

(01:49:34):
speech where she was talking about holding the line. We've
heard her say that phrase so many times over the
last year. And you've heard that phrase because she's she's
been just about everywhere you would look on your phone,
on a viral video, any anybody who would listen. It's
kind of been that kind of campaign. And now she's
in the forefront and we'll see if that can be
translated into becoming the Republican nominee in a crowded field

(01:49:54):
for South Carolina governor.

Speaker 7 (01:49:56):
And I asked the question, I wonder how people are
feeling about this announcement, and Russ sent us a text
to the WBT text line driven by Liberty Buick gmc
Russ says Mace is an opportunist as a Citadel alumni
and a christ follower, I'm disgusted by how she uses
the goodwill and integrity associated with both as a shield

(01:50:19):
to hide behind while acting without integrity in her personal
and political life. And Russ goes on to say, I
also can't believe the irony of her being the first
female graduate of a previously all male institution trying to
make herself the face for opposing men in women's spaces.
She didn't want to join our quote long gray line.

(01:50:41):
She saw it as something to be defeated well.

Speaker 6 (01:50:44):
And she and her speech yesterday, I mean it was
very very much about her connection to the Citadel, and
you're going to hear a lot of that, no doubt,
as you have thus far. So Nancy Mace is officially
a candidate. Like we said, Ralph Norman has thrown his
hat in the ring too national politics. This morning, President
Trump I made an appearance on CNBC talking about the

(01:51:05):
story that has dominated headlines the last few days about
the BLS commissioner being fired by President Trump after the
job numbers were released on Friday, and the economy added
seventy three thousand jobs in July. That was lower than expected,
and of course President Trump talked about the downward revisions
of jobs data from May and June showing that the

(01:51:27):
economy added two hundred and fifty eight thousand fewer jobs
than initially reported. So I want to pick up Last
Hour on CNBC.

Speaker 12 (01:51:36):
It's two hundred and fifty eight thousand lesson two months.
That was the biggest revision since nineteen sixty eight, missed President.
So we're in the internet age. We still can't get
any instant data. We're still using snail mail to get
the responses back.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
It is the.

Speaker 12 (01:51:53):
Government, after all, antiquated, no doubt, and certainly certainly suboptimal,
but rigged. Where do you get the notion that it's
rigged or do you have any evidence there?

Speaker 11 (01:52:04):
It is antiquated. But it's also very political. And you know,
I had an election recently where I did very well,
won every swing state, won the popular vote, won everything
all right, all the counties, I think eighty seven percent
of the counties were Republican. Up That's never happened before.
And yet I had to go through hell. And just

(01:52:25):
days before the election they put out numbers that it
was like the country was on fire, it was doing
so well. And then they did a revision about two
weeks later, and the revision was down by almost nine
hundred thousand jobs. Do you remember that? And I said,
but man, I said, what would have happened? What would

(01:52:48):
have happened? If I lost think of it, I would
have said. They gave phony numbers, and then they revised
them a week and a half later.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
Those were Bendmark numbers. Opens that happens. They do that.
They do that twice a year.

Speaker 12 (01:53:00):
And it reconciled the monthly figures with like the overall numbers,
and it was a big number.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
And obviously the numbers were rigged.

Speaker 11 (01:53:08):
The numbers were rigged. Biden wasn't doing well, he was
doing poorly. They announced these phenomenal numbers two days before
the election, and a little bit before that, always these
great numbers, and you knew it wasn't doing well. You
knew prices were through the roof and inflation was there.
But the whole thing was bad. But think of it.
Then they did the biggest revision I think in history,

(01:53:30):
of almost nine hundred thousand jobs, and it turned out
to be more than that because later on they did
another revision, and so they gave phony numbers in order
to win the election. After I won the election, I said,
too big to rig. But after I won the election,
then they announced a downward number, in other words, to
bring them back to reality, and I said, wow, supposing

(01:53:52):
I would have lost, I would have blamed that.

Speaker 6 (01:53:54):
That's President Trump on CNBC's squawk Box earlier this morning,
talked about that in a variety of others things. But
that's been the story that's been percolating the most at
Washington the last few days since he made that made
that move to fire the the the commission commissioner, the
Bureau of Labor Statistics commissioner, after getting the news on Friday,

(01:54:16):
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:54:16):
And it's another reminder to go back and listen to
the conversation with Mick mulvaney and Senator Tom Tillis, because
we talked a great deal about this particular issue, and
you know, the main thing is is you have to
just see what with the data backs up if if
it was, in fact, if the job was done poorly,
and you have the evidence for that, then then certainly

(01:54:38):
you fire. There's a reason to fire someone for cause,
but right now, and it didn't sound like they're the
president much could could show any kind of evidence for
the claim that the numbers were rigged, but you certainly
he believes that they were.

Speaker 6 (01:54:52):
I'm glad you mentioned that because we we we did
ask Tillis, Senator Tillis and Mick mulvaney about this very
early in our conversation yesterday. You may have missed that if.

Speaker 9 (01:55:03):
The president has been presented with information that makes it
clear that she fail to do her job, that the methodology,
whatever issues to come up with the BLS reports.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
Of course he should fire.

Speaker 9 (01:55:15):
But if he fired her just because he didn't like
the result, that's childish and whatever. The president very seldom
makes a decision on his own. He's usually either has
an idea he asked people if they agree with them,
or people continue to give them a good idea. I
think that again, if we proved that the method was wrong,
that they were overseeing a process that didn't have validity,

(01:55:36):
you get rid of them. But if you fired them
just because you got to dip in jobs, that's childish
and it's a distraction and it discredits a very important
agency for statistics. This isn't just something that the president
looks at. It's something that every person in business looks
at and makes decisions around. We can undermind data coming
out of what we consider be gold standard for analysis.

Speaker 7 (01:55:57):
Well, I thought that this was an interesting political move
because even politically, if they do find out that things
were done poorly or not done well, and she was
fired for cause, but if they put someone else in
place and suddenly there are great jobs numbers they've given
opponents of Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
Yeah, that's exactly right. You want to talk to Cook
in the book.

Speaker 9 (01:56:16):
So, I mean, look, the reason why China's economy, China's employment,
everything looks rosy is because Shijingping controls the information that
comes out. We live up to a higher standard. We
need to continue to even though even sometimes we don't
like the result or it undermines our credibility.

Speaker 6 (01:56:34):
That's Tom Tillis along with Mick mlvaney. Yesterday they were
in studio for ninety minutes. So you had a US
senator and also a guy we talk a lot about
him being chief of staff. He was also the budget
director for the White House, the omb director. So Mick mulvaney,
especially talking about a story like this has a lot
of insight, and that's what we try to do on
the show, is we can talk about the headlines, but

(01:56:56):
I love talking to the people that were there when
the decisions got made and can sort of speculate intelligently
about how things are going now because they've been in
those moments right.

Speaker 7 (01:57:08):
Right, And those folks are in the middle of everything,
as you were saying, and they understand when a topic
like this one becomes front page news. It's not the
Bureau of Labor statistics, not something that people talk about
usually over the dinner table, but people certainly are now.
But now we're getting the perspective, and we're trying to

(01:57:29):
offer the perspective of people who have been thinking about
this organization for years, if not decades.

Speaker 6 (01:57:34):
Well, and when you're the president and you say you're fired,
then that gets some attention, as this has. We appreciate
your attention today and every day, and don't forget a
brand new episode of the seventeenth segment, eighth episode is
there to download now wherever you download podcast and this
show every day also online as well, thanks to Steve

(01:57:55):
of course wearing two hats today because Bernie's been out today.
Of course, Mark and Zoa, everybody back in the new center.
Boomer von Cannon on a busy, rainy day. Be careful
out there. Good talk, Beth, good talk, bro Bye Baby,
have fun storming the castle.

Speaker 14 (01:58:12):
It would take him here and there.

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