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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have a lot of breaking news to tell you
about as we're coming on the air today. You heard
with Mark just moments ago a shooting overnight involving CMPD
officers that in combination with the story yesterday that no
doubt you've heard Minneapolis the Catholic school shooting where two
children were killed and seventeen injured. And then last night

(00:21):
on Brett Jensen Show, you had the Paternal Order of
Police on with him, Daniel Redford reacting to the stabbing
in Charlotte on Friday night that you're still hearing so
much talk about and reaction to on the Charlotte light
rail system. And so Mark, let's start with you and
all of us here following this most recent story that

(00:44):
most people listening now probably have not heard about yet
because it happened while you were sleeping. This officer involved
shooting here in Charlotte last night. Yeah, it happened about
two o'clock this morning. They got a nine to one
one call from a neighborhood near East mac High School,
Pine Borough Street. A family member said that one of
their family members was acting rather erratically and had a gun,

(01:08):
and so they call the officers. Three officers showed up
there on Pineboro Street and they pulled up behind the
suspect's car and according to police, he jumped out of
the car and immediately began firing. They returned fire, hitting
the suspect. We're calling the suspect because honestly, the cops
won't say yet whether it was a man or a woman,

(01:29):
so we don't know. But this person jumped out of
the car, open fire. The officers return fire, wounding this
person and right now we don't know their condition. They
were rushed to the hospital. No officers were hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
This is one of those stories that is terrifying when
you think about the work that these officers do. I mean,
they're responding to a call from family members saying that
someone is acting erradically, and we hear these stories far
too often that these domestic dispute calls can be some
of the most dangerous calls.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Were police officers.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, I mean, and you stop to think about it.
When they rolled up, they weren't exactly sure where this
person was outside in the car, and then all of
a sudden, they pull up behind the car, person jumps
ount and starts shooting. So you're exactly right, you don't
know what you're running into it you could be terrifying.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
And last night on WBT you had the Charlotte Mecklenberg,
President of the FOP, his name is Daniel Redford on
with Brett Jensen, talking about the stabbing on Friday night
and specifically about the local government's reaction to that, namely
Mayor vy Lyles and what she said and what she
didn't say in reaction to this. But this is a

(02:41):
pretty unprecedented thing for the FOP head to make a
statement and reaction like this.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
It really is is one of the strongest things I've
ever heard come out of the Fraternal Order of Police.
They're basically furious with the mayor because she issued a
statement which certainly did seem to offer sympathy to the
suspect who killed the woman on light rail because he
had had a history of mental issues. And so now

(03:08):
the FOP is saying, look, this crime was so horrific,
he's not the one who deserves sympathy here. And Daniel
Redford also went on to say that the city council
has been soft on crime way too long, not just
on light rail but all over the city, and they
are forcefully coming out saying that she should be.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Voted out of office this fall. We have that interview
from last night. You'll hear it during Marx Newscast. We
also have a more extended version coming up in a bit,
as Brett Jensen talked to Daniel Redford last night. And
then of course the Minneapolis Catholic school shooting yesterday where
two children were killed seventeen injured as they were attending

(03:48):
a mass here during the first week of school and
a gunman barricades himself inside. And I think you know
the rest will tell you what we know this morning
that we're still learning as this is still in the
early stages of the investigation.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, one thing, I don't know if you've seen the
video of its online. It may have been taken down,
but the shooter had posted a video with all of
his clips laid out on a bed in his bedroom,
and there were all these vile messages written on the
clips and threats. So and he was sort of laughing,
almost demonically as he would hold the clip up to

(04:24):
the camera and let you read the message. So it
was pretty chilling stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
And one of the threats, one of the chilling phrases
had to do with the President of the United States too,
So there's a lot going on here, as you can
tell as we're coming on on this Thursday, August twenty eighth.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
This is continuing coverage on News Talk e ninety nine
three WPT breaking news, breaking.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
News out of Minneapolis. Happened shortly after we were finished
with this show yesterday, and no doubt you followed the
developments throughout the day. Minneapolis a Catholic school shooting where
two children were killed, seventeen people injured. Just another heartbreaking
headline to start a school year. And the horrible headline

(05:08):
did not wait very long. It was just a few
days into when most kids were back in classes for
the first time.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It was a heartbreaking scene as you heard stories being
told as the children were coming out of the school.
They were in morning mass, morning prayer when this shooting
took place. And it has been a horrific story as
we've watched it unfold and we've heard some of those
personal stories coming out of the school.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Here is what we know up to now. Fox's Jonathan
Hunt in Minneapolis.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
There are no words that can capture the horror and
the evil of this unspeakable act.

Speaker 7 (05:42):
A tragic can deadly stopped to the new school year
after a shooter opened fire during a Catholic school mass
in Minneapolis.

Speaker 8 (05:50):
This was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children
and other people worshiping. The sheer, cruelty and cowardice firing
into a church full of children is absolutely incomprehensible.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
Just before eight thirty am, police were called to the
Annunciation Catholic Church after the suspect, armed with a rifle,
shotgun and the pistol, began firing through church windows, sending
bullets and glass raining down onto elementary school children.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
These kids were literally praying. It was the first week
of school, they were in a church. These are kids
that should be learning with their friends. They should be
playing on the playground.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
Students described the moments of terror before being reunited with
their parents.

Speaker 9 (06:45):
I heard something like really loud, like I thought it
was fireworks in the church, and then I saw the
shooting and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so scared.

Speaker 7 (06:55):
Police say the suspect, twenty three year old Robin Westman,
fired dozens of rounds from the three weapons.

Speaker 10 (07:03):
Investigators say they're looking.

Speaker 7 (07:05):
At an apparent manifesto left by Westman. Court records from
Dakota County, Minnesota, show a then seventeen year old called
Robert Westman was granted a name change to Robin in
twenty twenty, with the court writing quote minor child identifies
as a female, while Homeland Security Secretary Christy No posted

(07:27):
on x saying, in part quote, this deeply sick murderer
scrawled the words for the children and where is your God?
And kill Donald Trump on a rifle magazine. This level
of violence is unthinkable. Two children aged eight and ten
were killed, Fourteen other children and three adults were wounded.

Speaker 10 (07:50):
They are all.

Speaker 7 (07:51):
Expected to survive, and FBI Director Cash Battel says the
shooting is being investigated as an act of domestic terrorism
and hate crime targeting Catholics.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's Jonathan Hunt in Minneapolis, and will of course follow
the latest developments on this story as we are a
day out since that happened. But that's not the only story.
As you heard when we came on the air today,
an officer involved shooting in Charlotte last night, Mark Garrison.
I'll have more about that coming up in just a bit.
And then there's the fatal stabbing on Friday night here

(08:26):
in Charlotte Arena Zurutzka, twenty three year old woman stabbed
to death on a LYNX Blue Line train in South End,
and this story continues, we tend to get more details
on it, as she was someone who had recently fled
from Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
And then was met with violence here on mass transportation
on Friday night. And this story has made national news headlines,
and our Brett Jensen talked to the head of the
Paternal Order of Police last night and now because of
the mere bye Lyle's reaction to this tragedy, they're calling

(09:04):
for her to be voted out of office.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
So last night on Breaking with Brett Jensen, as Beth said,
Daniel Redford is the FOP president. Here's part of that conversation.

Speaker 11 (09:13):
We've got a twenty three year old female who was
violently murdered on public transportation. And prior to this city
council didn't care at all about all the crime that
was going on, all the murders that have been going
on in the city up to this point, the nearly
double percentage of homicides that occurred in the Uptown area.
But all of a sudden, here we are months away

(09:34):
or weeks away now from a re election where every
candidate on city Council was being primaried, with the exception
of a few, and now all of a sudden they
chose this to be the platform in which they wanted
to go out and advocate for. So it's kind of
a little too little, too late that, you know, here
we are in August, going into September, and then in

(09:55):
November city Council will be you know, voted on, and
they are using the this as a platforms and bulister
their political platform, you know, to hear the mayor come
out and in their first sentence say, oh, we feel
sorry for the family, and then the rest of her
statement goes on and pretty much justifying that what this
guy did wasn't his you know, in his hands because

(10:17):
he was mentally ill. Is pretty grotastic if you ask me.
So that's what really prompted the frustration on that. And
then you've got counsel in peacock and saying, oh, hey,
you know, we need to we need the sales tax
increase to go on for transit. It's it's disgusting that
they're using this to gain political points and take advantage
of the Charlotte voter. Thinking that they are not educated

(10:39):
enough to make their own opinion of what's right for them.
We need to address crime. We've been very vocal and
frustrated about the courts and the judges and city Council's
lack of attention of going out here and holding people accountable,
working together and and and push back against these violent
offenders that kill our to kill our citizens. I just

(11:00):
wish that City Council would be as passionate when the
young black men get killed in our in our communities
on almost a weekly to daily basis. I wish they'd
is as passionate to those instances than they are when
when it's a CMPD officer that shoots somebody in our community.
You know, we don't get any collective message or any

(11:20):
collective comments or feedback or anything from city Council unless
it's a major event. But everyt you know, it's like,
do they not care about these other crimes that are
going on? Do they not care about these other murders,
the families? What is it about this young female that
was killed the other day that all of a sudden,
this is the one where they want to come out
of the closet on and say, hey, well, you know,
we finally care and something really has to be done,

(11:42):
you know, is it is it that it's obviously a
high publicity topic and that they're weeks away from getting
re elected and they got to do something to make
it seem like they care. Like I said, it's it's
it's a little too late for all of that.

Speaker 8 (11:55):
Now. The FOP usually endorses candidates that are running for office.

Speaker 12 (12:00):
When will the FOP make their official announcements on the
candidates that they've endorsed?

Speaker 11 (12:04):
So the endorsements will be made in finalized September second,
which is the first Tuesday September.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Of course next week, and then the primaries for the
city elections are coming up on Tuesday, September ninth. The
actual email, or rather statement that Yliles, the mayor, put
out after Friday night's tragic stabbing. I'll read you just
a bit of this for context, because he was reacting
to some of that right there. She said, first and foremost,

(12:33):
my thoughts and prayers go out to the young woman's
family and friends. This is a tragic situation that sheds
light on problems with society safety nets related to mental
health care and the systems that should be in place
as we come to understand what happened and why we
must look at the entire situation. Well, I do not
know the specifics of the man's medical record, but I
have come to understand is that he has he has

(12:54):
long struggled with mental health and appears to have suffered
a crisis. This was the unfortunate and tragedy outcome. While
there are questions about the safety and security of our
transit system in our city, I do know there would
have been significant and sustained efforts to address safety and
security within our transit system and across our city. She
goes on to say, I want to be clear that

(13:15):
I'm not villainizing those who struggle with their mental health
or those who are unhoused. Mental health disease is just that,
a disease like any other, that needs to be treated
with the same compassion, diligence, and commitment as cancer and
heart disease. Our community must work to address the underlying
issue of access to mental health care. That's part of
the statement from Mayor Villisles. And just before that, you

(13:38):
heard the FOP president for Charlotte Mecklenberg. That's Daniel Radford,
who was on WVT reacting to all of this last night.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean, it's a complicated story, and it's a horrible story,
especially if you think about the backstory of the woman
fleeing a war torn country to come here to seek safety,
to seek shelter, and to lose her life in such
a violent way. And you know, we're talking about a

(14:06):
transportation system that as as you heard the president of
the FOPSA the Paternal Order of Police say, they're talking
right now about increasing you know, voting to increase tax
where we'd be taxing ourselves in order to advance our
public transportation line to increase into the northern part of

(14:26):
Mecklenburg County. And I'm sure this there will be an
impact because of how people are thinking about their safety,
how people are thinking about public transportation right now. And
we talked to Edwin Peacock about that right here on
this show. And it is coming at a time when,
like you said, the primary elections are happening, and I

(14:49):
think that there are people who are calling for change.
There are certainly people who want to feel safe, and
then like the mayor, there are certainly people who want
to see some measures in place to help people who
need help.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
That's right. Edwin Peacock was the person who brought up
this idea of the overall safety of the light rail system,
of course, and the reason he brought it up was
because of what happened on Friday night most recently. But
he brought that up at the meeting, and we talked
to him a few days ago, and this story continues
to develop. Various developing, breaking stories this morning here on WBT,

(15:24):
So you want to make sure you stay with WBT
throughout the day. News Talk eleven, ten, nine to nine
three WBT six thirty eight on your Thursday morning. It
is August twenty eighth. Bo Thompson and Beth Troutman here
covering various developing stories. Minneapolis Catholic school shooting yesterday where
two children were killed and seventeen injured, just days into

(15:48):
the school year, and that's the case for a lot
of people, a lot of kids across the country. This
is a big back to school week. But this is
just a horrific headline to be talking about on a
Thursday morning.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
And we're also talking about the violence that happened here
in Charlotte on Friday. The young woman from Ukraine who
was fatally stabbed while riding the lightrail in the South
End area, and we were talking about meyor viy Lyle's statement,
which shines a spotlight on mental health as she did
in her statement, and we've been getting messages from you

(16:21):
on our WBT text line seven oh four five, seven
oh eleven ten. I wanted to read this one. It's lengthy,
but it is in reference to both the shooting in
Minneapolis and the horrific crime that happened here in Charlotte.
This person says, good morning. I prefer to remain anonymous.
It's really heartbreaking to hear about anyone being murdered, especially children.

(16:46):
And I feel for the family of the victims and
for all of those involved with the light reel the
East Charlotte and the Minneapolis. With the light reel in
East Charlotte, I should say, and the Minneapolis tragedy. I'm
curious to know if the age we're all over eighteen
and it sounds to me like there might have been
the common thread of mental health issues. And as a

(17:06):
mental health therapist, one thing that's very difficult is that
when you have an adult that is untreated, whether it
be through lack of medication, therapy or access to help
or all of the above. There's not a lot a
family can do until the person becomes extreme and conditions,
and unfortunately that is even a difficult task to get

(17:29):
involuntary commitment or treatment. Unfortunately, there is something that death
and tragedy for others and for the other person themselves.
Most of the time, there are signs, and that's why
early intervention is a good thing. There is not one
solution to anything, but death is definitely not the solution.
This comment is a small option and not meant to

(17:50):
be a blanket comment. I work with kids and I
see early signs. Please please seek help and understand that
mental health issues are something that you manage and sometimes
for a lifetime, the same as other medical conditions. This
is heavy on my mind today and I just wanted
to share. Thank you for your show and for reporting
this news as it happens. So this person is saying

(18:12):
that it's difficult if you have someone over the age
of eighteen to if the person doesn't want help, to
get involuntary commitment or to get someone the help that
they that they need. And this is a person who
works in the mental health industry and is trying to
I think come up with solutions to help people so
that we avoid I think what we all want is

(18:33):
to avoid these tragedies. We want to have safe public transportation,
and I think most importantly, we want to have safe
schools for our children all across this nation.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Seven oh four, five, seven oh eleven ten. The text line,
which is driven by Liberty Buick GMC open to you
twenty four to seven on all of our shows, but
on days like this we invite you and hope you
will communicate with us, either by phone or as best time.
Read that text a very well thought out, long, lengthy text,
and sometimes that's what the day calls for. We mentioned

(19:06):
that shortly after this Friday night stabbing occurred, we talked
to Edwin Peacock on this show, who had voiced a
concern about the overall issue at the city council meeting
on Monday night. He joined us the next morning.

Speaker 13 (19:21):
Yeah, my heart goes out to this victim. Clearly, her
refugee status is cheering at the hearts of everyone who
begins to look into the story. I think as we
also look at the suspect, and we looked at how
many times CMPD has arrested him. We see a poster child, frankly,

(19:46):
for what I consider to be our failed mental health systems,
because he clearly was harmed to himself and others, and
we were unable to get him the help that he needed.
And obviously the result here is beyond anything anyone would imagine.
But this was preventable, and I'd like to see us

(20:07):
be a lot more, a lot more aggressive as it
relates to these types of individuals who are, frankly, riding
our bus systems, they're riding our rail systems, and there's
many on the streets of Charlotte that we just don't
have a response for.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
That's Edwin Peacock on our show earlier this week, and
we'll continue to follow this story throughout the morning and
throughout the day on WBT. Yeah, right on cue Bath
got myself a shiny new iPhone iPhone, got an iPhone,

(20:44):
shiny new iPhone sixteen pro look at last week.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
See, I feel like that's a humble brag that you.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
It would be except right on Q. Every time I
buy a new iPhone, they make an announcement the next
week about the new next one that's coming out, The
iPhone seventeen apparently is. I mean, it's waiting in the wings,
as in, they have an announcement for the next big
Apple stuff coming up on September night. That's what they're
calling an all dropping Apple debut event, where it's expected

(21:18):
they will launch the iPhone seventeen series. Like in recent years,
the lineup will reportedly, according to Business Standard and several
other sources, reportedly include four models. However, twenty twenty five
could mark a major shift, as Apple is anticipated to
replace the Plus variant with an all new, ultra thin
model called the iPhone seventeen Air. That's just great. I'm

(21:43):
going to have an obsolete model two weeks later.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
You know what's funny?

Speaker 12 (21:47):
As as she goes.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I just got the iPhone sixteen as well, and it
was hard for me to even upgrade because I had
the iPhone thirteen Mini, the Mini, and I loved it
because it was the perfect size for my hand. For
it was great for the female hand.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
These phones, there's like the original iPhone size.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yes, and this new phone, this new sixteen. Even though
I got the smaller version, I'm not as cool as bow.
I didn't get the Pro. It's too big for my
hand and I'm getting like thumb Arth writers.

Speaker 14 (22:15):
And Beth, you don't have small hands by all accounts
when you have your average size hands.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I have average sized hands for a tall woman. And
there's still the phone is too big for my but
a they're kind of heavy. So I like the idea
that the air is coming out. But like you said,
but I just bought this, I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna be upgrading my iPhone for years. I don't ever
even want to upgrade my iPhone. But they kind of
make it happen. They give you all these updates that
they force onto you, and then suddenly your phone starts

(22:42):
getting slower and starts doing weird wonky things. And I
think it's their trick to make you upgrade. And then
they have in cahoots with the phone case people.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh yeah, that don't get me started on that. You
have to buy a new.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Case because they're not the right size anymore, the right
thickness or the right wonky wonka it.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Makes it is. It is a whole, a whole thing on.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
The phone case deal. Like I paid fifty bucks for
my phone case.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, me too, and has pressed flowers in it.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
And if you look at the phone case for the
previous phone that I had then I had already bought
a second hand. I bought another one because it fell
apart second hand on eBay because I like, it's the
silicon Apple case and it's the simplest one. It fits,
but after a while it starts to peel and it
starts to fall apart. So I found that with this

(23:31):
case that I like, I just have to I have
to understand that I'm going to pay one hundred bucks
over the life of the phone to buy two of them,
although the second one is a lesser value because I
bought it second hand. But then if you compare the
size of the phone that I had before, the case
is it's like a tiny little millimeter but it just
is different enough that it doesn't fit.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
It's like a smidge.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
So you have to go and buy the new one.
Are you a screen protector guy? To bo, I am not,
Oh my god, no, because I got tired of paying
for that thing and it didn't even protect my case.
Last time around there was a crack and I had
the cover on it.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
And they have also over the past couple of rounds
changed the plug, the jack, the charge. It it's USBC it's yes,
the USBC now, which is making it like globally universal
or whatever. But do you know what I want them
to bring back? I mean, I have the aarpod things.
I have them, but you know what, those batteries die
and you have to charge those. Bring back my earphone jack.

(24:27):
I just want to use my old earphones that have
a cord and plug them in and put the put
the phone in my pocket, give.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Me the jack the MacBook that I use. I'm using
right now. I went back and bought an older version
because of that headphone jack. And I don't know if
they've fully taken the headphone jack away, but I know
they're about to. We know it's going to happen. They
want every single thing in the world to be USBC.
And they wore Bluetooth or.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Blue yes, and they want you to have to keep
upgrading because they've they've also.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
They want USB cloud is what they want.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
With this new with this new update that's coming, all
of these new products that are going to be launched
on September ninth, that they're going to talk about it
at this event. They're also going to be review releasing
new watches, new Apple watches, and of course all of
these other new Apple products that you're going to have
to upgrade all of them so that they all work
in cahoots with each other.

Speaker 14 (25:15):
I've had my Apple Watch for a few years now,
and I've noticed that the past couple of days it's
started to get walk die right around midday. And I
fully charge it every night, like it's not a fluke.
It's starting to go.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
They know what they're doing, so coming up on September ninth,
iPhone seventeen apparently is imminently coming as far as the announcement,
and then I guess you'll be able to get it
at some point this fall. But they're calling this a
jaw dropping redesign.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
I don't think my jaw's going to drop.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I think I just again, I have a brand new phone,
and should I take this? Steve Okay. Tammy is online
Number one. Tammy is on WBT. Tammy. How are you?

Speaker 15 (25:58):
Oh, I'm good, Thank you. How are you guys doing today?

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Good?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
What's up?

Speaker 8 (26:01):
Well?

Speaker 15 (26:02):
Same situation. I was in Wisconsin visiting family and I
went into the AT and T store and they said, oh,
you have the twelve promax. We're going to see you
at the end of the year because you're not going
to be getting any more upgrades. So I called them
and got a new sixteen Promax and then just this
week I got notified Dad, I have to change my

(26:24):
phone plan, which was never discussed, and I'm not a
very happy camper.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Oh did they say did they say anything to you
about the seventeen coming out?

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
They did.

Speaker 13 (26:37):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Well I see this. That's at least at least give
them credit for that. But the idea of saying to you, oh,
we'll see you at the end of the year for
your new phone, it's just.

Speaker 15 (26:45):
Like, yeah, it's medical crazy. It's this phone could have Yep,
my twelve could have handled the upgrades for another year
and a half.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, and I I bet and I were talking about
about this. I totally believe that towards the end of
your your time with a certain model, somehow, some way
they make things on your phone move slower, so you'll
you'll be you'll be a spurned to go a new one,
and then.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
And then we're all now reliant on our phones because
every company has created apps, and it becomes how we
pay our bills and how we deposit checks and how
they have gotten us hook line and sinker.

Speaker 15 (27:24):
You got that right, And plus you have to get
all new plugs because the old plugs don't get the
new phones.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I've spent so much money on plugs, and now people
are texting me telling me I can get an adapter
for my headphones. I'm so sick of all these toggles.
I have a toggle adapter for my laptop.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
My my computer plug in thing looks like an octopus. Yes,
because it has chords hanging out from the cost. Yes,
it does, it does. Yes, Tammy, Well, at least, at
least we can commiserate right, all.

Speaker 15 (27:49):
Together, all together, exactly, you guys have a great day.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
You too, Tammy.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
There's Tammy. How can you not be upbeat without after
talking to Tammy?

Speaker 15 (27:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Love Tammy like I love the high energy? I do too.
I mean even though she has an iPhone sixteen, I mean,
come on, who else has one of those?

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, both of us in this room?

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Are you not? At the time? From News Talk eleven
ten and ninety nine three Double bet.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
HBO will show this feature only at night.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
This is Good Morning Beat with Boat Thompson and Beth
Troutman and now Sonic men, says Buck took full and Beth,
can I POxy all right?

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Thursday morning, tyboid studio boy. We're getting it from both
ends here, Beth, Oh so Nick Craig, he says to
Bernie boy, they need to get with the times. But
this iPhone complaints stuff. Get with the times. Then ed
Billick from the other end says, sound like a bunch
of old men complaining about their phones.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, it'send of like old men, like old men yelling
at clouds.

Speaker 12 (28:58):
Yeah, takes what a no one?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
What are you wearing there at tablecloth?

Speaker 12 (29:04):
Where's Edry? Does you look at studio D like, yeah,
he's fight right across the hall texting him.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, yeah, totally frequently listener has no idea. We're just
talking about him. But fresh moments we were talking about
the iPhone seventeen, which now apparently is imminent September ninth,
Apple's gonna have its big unveiling of the next big thing.
And I said, last segment, oh this is great. I
just last week bought a new, shiny new iPhone sixteen Pro.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
And then I apparently went all old man and said,
I think they do this on purpose. I think they
do this on purpose, and.

Speaker 12 (29:38):
I guess it has a new plug in charger thing
that doesn't fit my fourteen.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Right, and the case won't fit. And you got to
buy all the new toggles and all the things to
plug the things.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
But suddenly everybody's like, you guys, sound like get off
my lawn. Look, I just bought the shiny new phone
they wanted me to buy, and then a week later
it's like, that's not the coolest one.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Now it's not shamey.

Speaker 12 (29:56):
Probably saved three hundred dollars over what the new one's
going to be.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
But we've been talking about does does Apple secretly, you know,
provide updates that make your your phone that's getting older slower,
So you'll.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
So that you have to upgrade, you have to buy
a new product.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
At least you'll have incentive to go and buy that
new one like I did. Scott is online number one. Scott.
Welcome to Good Morning BT.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Hey, good morning, Hey Scott.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
What you got Scott?

Speaker 16 (30:26):
I've worked in the I've worked in the technology world
for thirty plus years and I've seen a lot of
stuff coming go and life. Cycling is part of the
gig and there is planned opso lescence, so things do
age out and they get slower because they want you
to buy new, but you should anyway. I mean, ultimately,
the right thing to do is to upgrade all the time,

(30:48):
make sure that you got the latest and greatest. Teresa
Payton talks about that a lot. And buy new stuff
because if you don't buy new stuff, it's already old.
And you do all your app you were talking about that, bet, yeah,
you bank on it. You do all this stuff. And
everybody with an email address is a potential target, right.
The more email addresses you have, the more target you are.

(31:09):
So you got to be really careful out there and upgrade,
up graide, upgrade. That's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
I I everything you say is true, and you're right.
Teresa says the same things. All I'm saying, Scott, is
I just bought a new one. Can I enjoy having
the new, new, coolest thing for just a couple of week, just.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
For a millisecond?

Speaker 12 (31:25):
You actually can't right.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Time.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
But I feel like they've got us now, Scott. They've
got us because they know that we need to be secure.
They know that we are using the devices, They know
that a lot of people are addicted to the devices.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
And they've got us by the wallet.

Speaker 16 (31:41):
You said wallet, I mean cybercrime is real, and uh,
it's it's out there in force, so keeping the latest
and greatest.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
But you you said it, Scott. This is the thing
that sort of is I mean depressing that the phrase
planned obsolescence. You know, that's baked in. It's baked in
from the start.

Speaker 12 (31:59):
All right, Well, when was.

Speaker 16 (32:03):
The last time somebody went to the repair store with
the vacuum cleaners?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Get that's a good point, right, And you used to
take those remember the big old canister vacuum that had
like the things that you drag around with. You used
to my mom would take those things to the little
repair man.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Have you been to the Biltmore House, Scott? Have you
been to the Biltmore House? So the light bulbs, the
light bulbs at the Biltmore House are the original light bulbs.
Originally light bulbs did not burn out. That wasn't the thing.
And then they were like, word of a minute, don't
ever borrow a light bulb. Well, they won't have to
borrow a light bulb, and so that they make it.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
They talked that way at the Biltmore House.

Speaker 12 (32:39):
They don't make it like they used to right, right.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Scott, thanks for calling man.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Scott was like, I don't know what to do with
that story.

Speaker 12 (32:48):
Scott called in with one topic. You guys just took
them all around the world.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Poor Scott. He's like, yeah, that's no, no, no, I
have to go to work.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I work in tech, not incandescent light bulbs.

Speaker 12 (32:57):
Scott sounded like every it we've ever had, yeah, probably
fixed by Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
You like like like nothing excites him, Like yeah, it's
a planned obsolescence. I mean, and and I'm sure Scott's
very good at what he does, but right, I mean,
like nothing, It's like it's just kind of that's thank you.

Speaker 12 (33:14):
That's your big TV, that's your hot water tank, that's
your new AC unit. They built them on the last
certain amount of time so that you'll come back to
the store otherwise they don't have the next one. Your
phone's just part of.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
That planned obsolescence. I just googled my own factoid just
to make sure about the Bootmore house. That was the
the tour guide that told me about the planned obsolete True. Well,
it says the notion that light bulbs didn't originally burn
out is actually a misunderstanding.

Speaker 12 (33:41):
She fell for us she fell for the whole. I
totally light bulbs from their originalizer. She believed it.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Suns will come though your life.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
But the ones at the Bootmore House are still the originals.

Speaker 12 (33:53):
Yeah, low Salt be grass seed. I keep cutting the
grass over and over again. It's weird. It's like keeps growing.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Punch Stop seven thirteen on WBT. Some big sports news
last night on WBT. If you did not hear the
debut of Bill Belichick.

Speaker 12 (34:09):
We're not talking about that.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Last night Carolina Football Live made its debut, and that's
every week at seven o'clock on Wednesday nights. But Bill
Belichick was, as we told you, part of the first episode,
not going to be part of the other episodes, but
the first episode. He was there at top of the
Hill last night with the Carolina Faithful and Jones angel
as well. By the way, Jones joins us for his

(34:32):
weekly conversation at nine thirty five today ahead of the
college football season, and Monday night at eight o'clock, it's
a TCU and North Carolina the beginning, the official beginning
of the Bill Belichick era.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I don't know how I feel about all of it,
but I know that Jones is going to make me
feel good.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Seven fourteen on WBT, as he always does, traffic check now,
Boomer von Ganna.

Speaker 17 (34:57):
Scottish football, y'all, that's the Yeah tonight, I didn't see
state in East Carolina.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I want to replay that clip when we have Jones
on later.

Speaker 13 (35:04):
Bernie.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Oh yeah, you got mark the tape eye puller right now. Actually,
turn I'm married. I'm married, but I'm married.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
He's not gonna know what to do with that.

Speaker 12 (35:16):
That's why you gotta play that.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
That's why you got play.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
That.

Speaker 12 (35:21):
Traffic is crazy.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
It's crazy ours everywhere.

Speaker 12 (35:26):
Jim, you're ready for the games. Like, yeah, they're talking
about Monday, we're talking about tonight and he stayed in
hard Finley Stadium pirates.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
I gotta pay, I gotta pace myself. I got to
get to all of it. That's why I have four
hours in the eastern part of the state. This is war,
this is it's bigger than the game.

Speaker 12 (35:41):
It's everything. It's gonna be a great game tonight. I
can't back but sitting that l for eight months.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
This is Good Morning DT with both Thompson and Beth
trout Man.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
So last night on w BT and across the tar
Heel Sports Network the beginning of a new era. So
you're used to it being Mac Brown Live or Dick
Crumb Live or who else John Bunting Live.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Some good names.

Speaker 12 (36:17):
Yeah, a lot of energy with Dick Crumb Life.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I'm going way back on that one. But it's traditional
for the tar Heel football and basketball head coaches to
do a weekly coaches show. We told you last week
that now with the Bill Belichick era starting, they are
not going to do Bill Belichick every week. They said
he'd be on the first episode. That episode was last night.

Speaker 18 (36:41):
The best part about this is he won't say this,
But the best part is when you're walking on campus
and we're walking over to practice and here and I
were walking together and the students walk by and they're
not quite sure who he is because you've got a
hat on, you know. And then after they take about
five steps past them, they're like, holy heck. They don't
say heck, you know, that's coach check, and like they're
almost like, really they want to go back to You

(37:03):
can see them want to turn around, you know. I
think they I think they can't quite believe.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
He's on campus.

Speaker 19 (37:08):
Coach Michael mentioned this right before you got here, but
this is a process. I mean, everybody's excited for Monday Night, right,
I mean, that's an exciting game, and everybody's excited for it,
But you guys are building this for more than just
Monday night.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
That this is a long term process.

Speaker 13 (37:23):
Correct.

Speaker 20 (37:24):
Yeah, absolutely. You know, it's great to have our staff
in place that's really come together. And as I said,
a lot of our transfers are our young players. We have,
you know, some senior transfers, some grad transfers, but a
lot of young players. And then and we have a
lot of you know, obviously, our recruiting class next year
looks like, you know, one of the best ones in

(37:44):
the country, and we probably have thirty five players.

Speaker 19 (37:46):
So yeah, yeah, we're very.

Speaker 20 (37:48):
Excited to get those guys in. But I'm we're excited
to work with the guys that we have and and
they've worked hard, they've improved a lot. My strength conditioning
program has been good, and our nutritionist, our chef, they've
a great job. So these guys have gotten bigger, stronger, faster,
and they've improved a lot, and they fought into the program.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
He was great.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
He was supposed to be there for just the first
thirty minutes, and I listened to the whole show. He
actually stayed for almost the whole hour, took questions from
people there at the restaurant, and was he.

Speaker 12 (38:16):
Eating a bag of fredos? What was happening at to start?

Speaker 5 (38:18):
See?

Speaker 1 (38:19):
You know, when I first listened to this, I didn't
notice that. But we may have a Ron Rivera eating
while the interview is happening. Instance here now understandable or
more understandable because they're doing it at a restaurant at
the top of the him, you know, Rivera, I just
kind of had snacks in his pocket. But roll that
beginning of the one I just played there, Burnie, because
we don't know if it was Belichick or somebody at
the table was crunching on something.

Speaker 18 (38:40):
The best part about this is he won't say this.
and we're walking over to practice and here I were
walking together and the students walk by and they're not
quite sure who he is because you've got a hat on.

Speaker 12 (38:51):
You know, it's talking about their conditioning in the chef
and all that. He's like eating a bag of pork
riness while doing the show.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
It's either Jones or check. It's got to be one
of those Jones Jones. Hey, we can ask him.

Speaker 12 (39:05):
We ask You're gonna have to ask Jones Jones. Is
I'm eliminating Jones radio professional Jones? Yeah, Hey, coach, Well,
I thought you.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Guarantee Jones does like six interviews, uh, throughout this morning
on various stations across the network. I guarantee we're the
only ones we'll say. Was that you chewing or was
that Belichick?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
If it was, what was he eating?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Because it sounded like it had some like, I don't know,
drywall screws in it.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
It was very.

Speaker 12 (39:33):
Crunchy step on the enamel.

Speaker 14 (39:37):
Of your teeth actually sounds really nice.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I thought it was gonna be I.

Speaker 12 (39:42):
Like that, like like a bag was wrestling, and then
like some kind of tortillas.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
So there's your there's your first taste of Belichick, maybe
your last taste. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
We we just want to know what he was tasting
in the middle of that a hard shell tackle your
just say he was chomping on it sounded like I
had drywall screws in there.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Drywall screws?

Speaker 12 (40:03):
Was Thomas nails coach spitting nails?

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Because we all know the flavor of drywall screws.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
It was very very loud, right, it was very very crunchy.
It would be the people who really hate to hear chewing.
Can you imagine if that noise were beside you at
a movie theater.

Speaker 12 (40:19):
Back m I would leave some loud cho So did
you say, is this his only appearance for the season?

Speaker 1 (40:25):
That's what they're saying now, I again, I'll ask Dron
Jones when he's on with us, so is there any
chance he may be back in the future? What did
I do for crying out loud? Jones? Angel? Jim looked
at me and his drone Jones Angel, let's.

Speaker 12 (40:41):
Go to flect onto me.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
You laugh, you laugh, Let's go back to Jones. Angel.
Coach it.

Speaker 19 (40:47):
I don't know you super well, but it seems like
you truly love to coach and to teach and enjoy
seeing guys develop as players. Do you even have a
greater opportunity to do that at the college level because
you're working with less developed guys.

Speaker 20 (41:04):
Yeah, absolutely, we just had more time. You know, the
off season programming the NFL is only nine weeks, and
you usually don't even get them all for the those
nine weeks. But you know here we had them from
the middle of January till really, you know, other than
a couple of weeks, you know, to the end of
the Nhuly And so those practice opportunities, practice and pads.

(41:25):
Being able to train and train in a you know,
good environment here has been you know, it's been phenomenal.
We as I said in the off season a couple
of times here, you know, we we've gained four hundred
and sixty two pounds of muscle and lost one hundred
and sixty pounds of fat and untill over three months
of training. So you know, the guys are working hard
and you know, and it's showing up and those are

(41:47):
positive results that they want to continue to build on.
So yeah, you could definitely nick kid. They're younger and
they improve faster, but you know they've worked hard to
make that improvement. So yeah, it's been very gratifying to
Sam you developed both physically and on a football field.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
That's the coach on with Jones Angel last night on
Carolina Football Live. And by the way, you think I
can't laugh at myself for some of the things that
I say. Have you checked my team name on the
Fantasy football page. It is no longer what it was.

Speaker 12 (42:19):
You changed your team, Oh you changed.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
It's no longer Amity Finn, it.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Is no longer. For the first time ever in the
history of me playing fantasy, please please tell me a
different name.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Please tell me it's Jason's basement.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
You might have to go look and see.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
I just want to.

Speaker 12 (42:31):
Say that people's piano mind that was that was a second.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
It is Jesus is Jason's basement.

Speaker 14 (42:37):
That's fantastic, bro, might'll be dron angel we.

Speaker 9 (42:44):
Go.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
The text line is blowing up over what Bill Belichick
might be eating in this In this segment, this person
did not leave a name, and I so want to
know this person's name because I feel like they won today.
They said, who doesn't snack on grape nuts?

Speaker 1 (42:59):
I actually think you won the day. Who doesn't snack
on drywall screws the nails? That's the I mean, that's.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
It didn't sound like normal food.

Speaker 13 (43:08):
It was beer.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
We sounded like this, Yeah, that's why you for dinner.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
We need one of those for Jason's basement.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Now, just yeah, I think we do it. You know,
Jason's basement.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
For the fun of it.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
I need him to say it. I need Jason, Jason
Bateman to say it.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
You think we could get him.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
You know, there's cameo guy, cameo is how expensive is
that day? I wonder anyway, things we wonder while we're
doing the show here For those of you who are
keeping score at home and want to keep score on
Monday night, it's the Tar Heels and TCU. This is
at Chapel Hill, so this is all of the country.
We'll be watching to see what Bill Belichick does on
his opening night, and of course you can hear the

(43:47):
game right here on wbt pregame at seven, kickoff at eight,
and we'll talk to the Voice of the Heels as
we always do during football season. The debut Conversation for
this season is coming up later today at nine thirty five,
where we will ask the hard hitting question, what was
Bill Belichick chomping on at the beginning of the meal
last night?

Speaker 12 (44:06):
It's probably undisclosed. Probably can't talk about it. His girlfriend.
We're not talking about that. What if he's a termite
just chewing woodmuncher.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
That's what Beth was saying with the drywall. Okay, it
was termite.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
This is Good Morning Beat with both Hudson and Beth
Trout bit.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Seven thirty seven on WBT on this Thursday, August twenty eight,
got some sad news late yesterday, read you a posting
on X from Senator Tom Tillis who said, we tragically
lost an American hero with the passing of Mike Verrardo
in twenty ten. Sergeant Verardo suffered physical injuries when he

(44:47):
was hit by an ied in Afghanistan. He endured years
of physical therapy and one hundred and twenty plus surgeries,
but still worked to help fellow wounded veterans. He was
a loving father and husband, a great friend, and a
tireless champion for veterans. Susan and I sent our deepest
condolences to Mike's loving wife, Sarah and their three beautiful daughters.

(45:09):
Please keep them in your prayers. That was from Senator Tillis,
and then later yesterday President Trump posted on truth Social
He said, we here, or rather we honor the extraordinary
life and service a retired US Army Sergeant Michael Verardo,
a true American hero who gave everything for our nation.

(45:29):
And he goes on to say Michael's legacy of resilience
and Sarah's selfless dedication will forever inspire us. Brave patriots
like Michael and their families will never be forgotten. We
will cherish them in our hearts forever. And I saw
this news last night and it took me back to
twenty nineteen. It was that year that WBT. Some of

(45:50):
you may have attended some of these, but at the
very least you may remember us talking about them. We
had a series of luncheons, the Veterans and Business Speakers
Series Luncheons. WBT and the Independence Fund teamed up across
that year in twenty nineteen to host those luncheons and
bring awareness to what the Independence Fund does and what

(46:10):
these veterans were doing to try to help fellow veterans
get back into the workforce and sort of make that
transition from life of serving our country and obviously, in
the case of Michael Verardo, serving in a capacity that
ended with life altering injuries. But I was going through

(46:30):
some of my records last night and Michael Verardo was
on the show back in twenty nineteen. I had a
conversation with him, and this was ahead of a luncheon
that we did at Carmel Country Club that year, but
he was our keynote speaker, and we had about six
or seven of these, but Mike was one of the
first people that I talked to, And in honor of
his passing yesterday and honoring his legacy, I wanted to

(46:54):
replay a bit of our conversation. Well, let's talk about
your story. You were thirty three years old as an
Army infantryman with the eighty second Airborne Division. Correct, Correct,
And you're in Afghanistan in twenty ten. Now, before we
talk about twenty ten, when was your entry point? What

(47:14):
year was that?

Speaker 21 (47:15):
So I had a pre existing medical condition I had
to get taken care of after high school, so it
took me four years to finally join. So I ended
up joining in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
So you're three years into it twenty ten. It's early
April of twenty ten. You're hit by an IED, which
is those who don't know that's an improvised explosive device.
You're knocked out, you're badly bruised, you had head injuries,
but then a few days later you felt well enough

(47:46):
to go back to your unit.

Speaker 21 (47:48):
So I was knocked unconscious, found out later I had
a spinal cord injury. But while I was at Kandahar
Airfield getting checked out, Joseph Karen got killed close to
him in the unit. And then I participated what was
called a ramp ceremony. And what that is is when
they load the flag draped coffin into the plane. Members

(48:11):
of the unit who are around go and I, you know,
put my hand on his cough and says, you know,
I'm going back. It was kind of up in the
air whether I would or not. And uh, you know,
I went back first patrol back. I was an eighth
guy over a wall, stepped right whenever stepped left when
everyone stepped right, and I in an I d and

(48:31):
again yeah wow.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
And and so in that particular case, and like I said,
you you decided to go back and and and then
you're hit again and this time this time what happened.

Speaker 21 (48:44):
Yeah, I uh it is initially a single idea that
they hooked up to three jugs of home and explosives.
Left leg gone, immediately, left arm hanging on by a thread.
From what they told me, Uh, it was so it
was in pretty bad shape.

Speaker 12 (49:01):
You know.

Speaker 21 (49:03):
Oh, Doc tests to everything, because he really did everything
he could. I think they did a body to body
blood transfusion.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Man, and your body was badly burned too.

Speaker 21 (49:13):
Yeah, I got lots of burns and cush on top
of that. But that's kind of so.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I mean, when when you're comparing the first time versus
the second time. The first time you felt okay enough,
you thought after a few days, this time around, you're
lucky to be alive. Yeah.

Speaker 21 (49:29):
I think I got read in my last rites blackout
right when the Metavac helicopter got there and woke up
a week later, and Walter reed.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
And DC Wow, Well I was gonna my next question
was going to be what do you remember about April
twenty fourth, twenty ten. But obviously, as you say there,
I'm sure it's it's very blurry. But do you think
a lot about now that that's happened. Do you think
much or have you thought over the years or even
second guest that decision to go back instead of going

(50:00):
home the first time?

Speaker 21 (50:01):
You know, sometimes I do wishing. You know, I had
a longer military career, got a lot of unresolved business
over there that I can never make up. But I
don't regret it, because if I hadn't gone out, someone
had to take my spot. And if you look at
the chain of events that happened since then, you know,
I'm married, I have three beautiful girls at home. I

(50:24):
get to work with veterans through the Independence Funds. So
it's not where I'm not where I would thought I
was going to be at nine years ago, but I'm
in a pretty good place.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Well in the second time around, I mean, you didn't
really have a choice of whether you were going home
were you were clinging, clinging to life after that second
ied hit, right.

Speaker 21 (50:43):
Yeah, I was a little more than take ibuprof and
drink water on that.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
So, Mike, you are classified as a double amputee, but
that's not necessarily an apt description of really what it
is and what you go through. So so explain to
me exactly what injuries you had, the main ones, and
how they contribute to your daily life.

Speaker 21 (51:05):
Now, left leg was amputated instantly in the blast. My
left arm was blown off, but they were able to
get it to the point where they could sew it
to my back to keep it alive. So my left
arm it's still there, but my left hand's paralyzed and
the bicep and trysup are pretty much gone. But the

(51:28):
actual arm.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Is still there. I can't imagine going through what you
went through. I also can't imagine being on the other
side of that. And you know, everybody has thoughts of
what it's going to be like down the road into
the future. You get married, you have kids, you move on.
I can imagine your now wife had to make quite
an adjustment to this as it happened, and as I've
read up on you and followed your story, I know

(51:49):
that she has been tremendously inspirational and you wouldn't be
able to be sitting in front of me right now.
I don't think without the support of her over the years.

Speaker 21 (52:00):
No, absolutely not. She had to do things from going
on YouTube learning how to dress a wound to becoming
a subject matter expert on the VA to make sure
I'm getting the care I need.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
And boy, you really find out if somebody is truly
devoted to you when you go through something like this.

Speaker 21 (52:19):
I suspect, yep, for better or for worse, and unfortunately
for her, I put her through a lot of the worse.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
That's the voice of Mike Ferrardo, who passed away yesterday.
I got worried about this late last night and he
and his family lived in Waxaw and he leaves behind
that family. He spoke of Sarah, his wife, the CEO
of the Independence Fund, and you heard him talking about
all the surgeries that he had and the two times

(52:46):
he was involved in those attacks, and even though he
still wants to come back. First of all, after the
first one he went back into active duty, and the
second time he could not, but he came back here
and still trying to give to the community. So I
got this news yesterday. President Trump posted about it last night,
Senator tell Us did. I heard from Jon Stewart about this,

(53:07):
and I wanted to carve out some time here this
morning just to tell you about it and also remind
people about the sacrifices that have been made out there
by people and what a legacy Michael Vado leaves behind.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Thank you for playing that bough and giving us some
insight into the man that he was, as we honor
him today and our hearts go out to his family
in Waxhall.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
And again that was from twenty nineteen. He was part
of our Veterans and Business Speaker series Luncheons that we
did that year and had an opportunity to spotlight so
many of these heroes, American heroes.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
Good morning, This is Good Morning BET, Good.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Morning News Talk eleven ten, nine to nine three WBT.
A little more than a week out from the Carolina
Panthers taking the field for game number one in the
regular season. But here's something you may not have heard
about a former Carolina Panther. Now you probably know if
you watch ESPN and see Steven A. Smith in first take,

(54:12):
you know that's their signature discussion show every morning comes
on at ten am, and at Steven A. Smith he's
the centerpiece. But over the years, in fact, they started
back in the days of Skip Bayless. Then Skip Bayless
left and he went to Fox and actually did a
show with Shannon Sharp, Skip and Shannon, and then ESPN

(54:32):
hired actually before Shannon, they hired Max Kellerman. That didn't
work out. Then they brought over Shannon Sharp, and it
was Steven A. Smith and Shannon Sharp for a while. Well,
Shannon Sharp had some of off the field or off
the screen transgressions and he is no longer employed by ESPN.
I do you want to research why that is? You can,

(54:54):
But the bigger picture, we just lost Beth maybe a firewall.
Beth careful, but you may remember that in recent years
there had been one former Carolina Panther that had been
part of that show on Fridays. You know, he was
kind of their Friday pundit that they brought into the mix.
It's always Stephen A. Smith and somebody they have mad
Dog mad what's his name from, Sirius Rousseau, Chris Russeau

(55:19):
who's been a fixture in recent years, and Orlofsky's on there,
and there are a few other in the sort of rotation.
But now it's been announced that Cam Newton apparently is
set to increase his ESPN duties and be the guy

(55:39):
essentially that takes the place. Yes, I said duties take
the place of Shannon Sharp. So they haven't outrightly said
that Cam Newton's going to be on there as much
as Shannon was, but I think the ramp is there
for him to do that, and he's already been on
First Take for a little while. Now they're saying that
Cam has signed a multi year deal with the network.
It was signed Wednesday, which will see him make more

(56:01):
appearances on First Take, And if this goes well, then
you may end up seeing Steven A and Cam every day.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
They really seem to love Cam Newton over there. I mean,
I feel like his role just keeps getting bigger and
bigger and bigger. At ESPN, I feel like they really
like him.

Speaker 14 (56:14):
I take away from his podcast that he's doing. I
feel like he does that every day, doesn't he.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
The fourth, fourth and one, fourth and one, he still
does it? Yeah, I mean, and and then you know
Joy Taylor, who got who got to Alsted? From Fox?
If you want to look that one up, beet, you
can look that one up dur in the latch.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
I had forgotten about the Shannon Shark controversy, and I
did google it, and I have was reminded well.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
During the newscast. Look up, Joy Taylor.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
I'm so scared of so what's going on in this world?

Speaker 14 (56:41):
I'd be like both searching sexiest man of the year
and then getting the picture.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
You're off topic, Bernie. Joy Taylor was on Cam's was
on Cam's podcast recently and she made some interesting remarks.
But Cam is kind of floating out there in the
sports pop culture world, and I don't know. I mean Cam, Look,
I think Cam, you could twenty fifteen, ten years ago,

(57:05):
he was Superman. He was everything for this franchise and
one of the greatest Panthers of all time. Nobody's going
to argue that as a broadcaster, he's not everybody's cup
of tea. Some people love him, some people don't like him.
I'm a little bit surprised that they're going all out
to bring him in to be basically Steven A's Foyle
on a pretty high profile show. But if Cam can

(57:28):
command that salary and make it worked, and more power
to him, I'm just I'm interesting to see how it's
going to work, because it doesn't seem like a perfect
fit to me.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Well, he has personality. We know that he has this.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
He's capable of tapping into this big personality personality that
he has. It just depends on which Cam you get,
you know. Like I feel that it's really based on
his mood at the moment.

Speaker 12 (57:52):
And he's I think, like Stephen A. Smith, he's polarizing.
I think you either love or don't love that over
the topness. And I think in this case, like they
usually like like bost like a foiler, you'd have kind
of like this one personality versus another, you have like
this conflict. I think in some ways they might be
similar in that they're both going to be like these
outrageous saying crazy things and you know, saying you know

(58:14):
things that would be click and uh and may be
a little bit more exaggerated. But you have two of
them instead of like one or the other.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Here's what I'm scared of, guys.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I mean, I know I don't spend a lot of
time watching ESPN, but what about when they get in
a fight on the air, and when they disagree and
these two neither.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
One that fight.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
They don't know how to hold back. Fight No, no,
not a fist fight.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Even slim down camp Steve, a big guy.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I'm talking about like a cam site. I'm talking about
like the vicious rhetoric fight.

Speaker 12 (58:44):
Oh, a rhetoric fight. Those are the best.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
But then again, what if it's a If it's a vicious,
serious rhetoric fight, and he's wearing the hats and the glass,
I can.

Speaker 12 (58:54):
Take him seriously, wellmemb, we had that fight at the
school or something. He was like outside doing promoting something.
Some fan like gott in him and his hat never
came off. I see it might be actually stapled on.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Bobby tens So Cam Newton coming to ESPN first take.
I assume this is going to be very soon.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
It's time for a little high lights housekeeper.

Speaker 10 (59:16):
This is a place.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
Let's go from his talking leven ted at ninety nine
three doublet.

Speaker 10 (59:22):
Bet common sense.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
This is your wake up cow, get your mother. This
is good morning beat with boats humpson and bed trout
This place is a mountain of goodness and a mixed
up work.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Eight minutes past eight o'clock on Thursday, August twenty eighth,
Boe and Beth and the Zoke Bernie Bowles, Sir Stephen
of Anthony, we have much to tell you about today,
including the fact that Sharon Thornsland was hanging out with
Beth Troutman at the Home Goods yesterday.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
It's true talking sports.

Speaker 12 (59:57):
Yeah, they say Charlotte doesn't have a lot going on.
Was the visitors who comes through don't know what to do?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Was this a planned meet up or did you guys
just happen to run into each other.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
This was not a planned to meet up, but we
did run into each other. Our shopping carts almost hit
and I was like, well, there you are, Sharon Thorsland.

Speaker 12 (01:00:13):
Who's who's Charlotte here at the local, Like the Coole's
lady telling her what to buy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Hanging out at the She did help me pick a
lovely painting that will now be in my kitchen.

Speaker 12 (01:00:22):
You got your painting from home Goods.

Speaker 14 (01:00:25):
To get anything from home goods?

Speaker 19 (01:00:26):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Just Craig cleared this, Uh he did. He cleared it yesterday.

Speaker 22 (01:00:29):
He did.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
But Sharon was like this, you get some good stuff?

Speaker 10 (01:00:32):
Here?

Speaker 12 (01:00:32):
Was it like a sailboat? What'd you get? I did
not get to see seen like the river in Venice?

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
What'd you get?

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
So you guys were just shopping in home Goods And
then Adam Thelen decides he'd gone back to Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. You would have been so
proud of me. So I run into Sharon Thorsland. We
talk home goods items for a moment, and then I
brought up Theland.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
And Fling went home.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Yeah, I brought him up. And then we started talking
about the Renfro guy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Now, I have to tell you this is a class
Beth Troutman. There was the day where I was talking
about Bruce Hornsby and she called him Larry Buckhorn. She
was just trying to remember Hunter Renfro's name year and
she said that guy that they Rushty Bromaker. You said
that was off the air. You guys were doing your things.

(01:01:19):
Zokie was out of the room and Beth and I
were talking about Hunter Renfro. She's like, yeah, Rusty Bromaker.

Speaker 12 (01:01:24):
Yesterday you called him Harry please a lot about your
Fantasy football league drafts.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I was trying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
I was so excited to tell him that I ran
into Sharon Thorslynd and that we spent time at home.

Speaker 12 (01:01:34):
Begun glad you remember Sharon's name.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
We've spent time at home because talking sports.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I thought you guys would be so excited that I
brought up the sports.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Did you tell sheriff sports? Did you tell her about
she was?

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
She actually brought that up because she was listening to
yesterday's show and listening to the fantasy football discussion. And
I asked her if she was really disappointed in me,
and she said yes.

Speaker 14 (01:01:58):
I named the show yesterday Megabeth Reigns Supreme.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
So oh, thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:02:02):
Bert.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
By the way, I have renamed my team. I am
no longer the Amity Finns. I am now Jason's Basement.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Just for the record, which you if you are a
daily listener, you understand the the misspeaks the moments that
Bo hasn't. A couple of a couple of weeks ago,
we were trying to talk about Jason Bateman and he
said just randomly and didn't realize he had said it, said, Jason,
what if we all just changed our.

Speaker 14 (01:02:26):
Team names to something that Bo is miss miss Stamos
John Stamis.

Speaker 12 (01:02:30):
I'm going to be the sas with you today. Bernie
just like finger pointing it, Bo, you got it wrong?

Speaker 10 (01:02:40):
Wrong again?

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
I like lean into it.

Speaker 22 (01:02:43):
And Bernie's like, what if we all magnour teams after
mistakes Bo's made?

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Can I bet it? Can I be lu Lamont?

Speaker 12 (01:02:52):
I want to be the piano man?

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
And Steve's so tall he could be Sauce Squatch.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
I had a great segment plan here, Well, Dave Canals,
let's go Dave Canals.

Speaker 8 (01:03:06):
All right.

Speaker 23 (01:03:06):
Well, an eventful couple of days, you know, with with
Adam being traded to the Vikings, I first wanted to
just talk about, you know, my time with him here
and just you know the competitive spirit, you know, the
toughness and really just the energy he brought every day
professionalism and how it really impacted and affected you know,
a really young group of white outs and and a

(01:03:27):
young coach. You know, it's something that you know, I'll
take with me forever, just to kind of see, like,
you know, what it means to him to go out
there every day and to get after it. And I
remember him coming off the field in games, He's just like,
at the end of the days, don't matter what you call,
we got to make the play, you know, and just
challenging me, challenging the group, you know, and that kind
of fire you know that'll be missed here, but you

(01:03:50):
know there was there. I think this was kind of
a transaction that happened where everybody, you know, we met
in a common ground, you know, all across the board,
and so you know, it just happened to work out
this way. And he and I had a long conversation
today where you know, it's just like it's about patience
and it's about the right thing being done, you know.
And I think we come away with this and all

(01:04:11):
of us the vikings adam ourselves, you know, I think
we all come away with this thing feeling like we're
in a good spot.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
So the question is, Jim ZOCHI, what about Hunter renfro
where as Beth would say, Rusty Bromaker, what about.

Speaker 12 (01:04:25):
That Renfro guy?

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Is he back?

Speaker 12 (01:04:27):
Is he back? They've had dialogue with him, is what
they said. So I don't know, they've not at this
moment reached an agreement to bring him back. So I
guess the ball's kind of in his court is the
way it sounded from yesterday's press conference with Hunter Renfro,
which is interesting. They waived him to be able to
keep David Moore, another receiver they want on the roster,
and the timing was such that they had discussions about

(01:04:48):
moving field in two Minnesota, but they didn't occur in
time for the roster cuts. And then people say, why
didn't you keep Renfro, Well, they didn't know. They did
get a deal done for sure, with the compensation that
matching up, so we'll see. I know Hunter Renfro basically
hand picked the pan after is to make his return
from finmissing that season with Collidis and getting back into shape. Uh,
so you would think that that wouldn't change.

Speaker 9 (01:05:06):
I would.

Speaker 12 (01:05:07):
I would guess when they parted ways with him, like
they're say like, hey, we might be calling you back
because they were still working on the deals.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Well, I feel like they really jumped the gun on
that too, because if they had some inkling of an
idea that they were going to let theland go and
send him over to to to Minnesota.

Speaker 12 (01:05:23):
There's no d at the end of the land. Where
is that just to move the target off? Where the
target off?

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Both for him minute, thank you very much.

Speaker 14 (01:05:31):
Maybe she means Cleveland like the land.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I thought I thought about it because like we're sitting
here talking about the things that that bou has said wrong.
In a moment where he just said that I called
Hunter Renfro Rusty bromy.

Speaker 14 (01:05:42):
Cars sorry about I had to pile on you because
which is so true.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
I get names wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
I mean to bring it back to my mistakes when
I say them, they're they're like you can you can
sort of see how it might have happened, like Nuance, Yeah,
yours is like I'm just creating a whole news.

Speaker 19 (01:05:58):
Different.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
It's like, you know, I'm talking out Rusty Bromaker. But
I feel like they should have maybe waited a minute
with the Hunter Renfrot.

Speaker 12 (01:06:07):
It was rost your cutdown to day. You had four o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Oh wow, And here's the thing they did, ask canal.

Speaker 12 (01:06:12):
A fantasy draft. You know, hard, this is it is hard.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
When they talked to Canalis about this, you look, Dave
does not He's not critical of people very easily. Like
it takes a lot for Dave Canalis to say, hey,
you just weren't cutting it. He essentially said that about
Hunter Renfro yesterday.

Speaker 23 (01:06:26):
We've been in constant communication with Hunters since yesterday. He's
talking to his family, he's talking to his agent, you know,
and we're all just kind of we have we have
a couple of things on the table for him, and
we're just going to keep taking kind of one day
at a time and see where he's at, you know.
And I just felt like, you know, towards the end,
like the last stretch of what I saw, I want
to be able to count on Hunter to be as

(01:06:48):
good as he was the whole time, and I just
saw I just saw some peaks and then I just
saw some dips also in terms of his performance. And
I just felt like, in fairness to the whole group,
in fairness to the team, I wanted to make sure
they he knew I want to be a part of
your future. I don't think right now is the time
initially for this team, and so we just he just

(01:07:08):
kind of said, you know, I have to think about
what I want to do. And so we're in we're
in communication right now. We're going to kind of take
it day by day and see where we're at.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
So if the coach says that about how you perform
during training camp, do you come back if he gets
an opportunity like we think he might, does he come back?
And does he had a chip on his shoulder because
Canal has said that, or is he he's so incredibly
thankful for getting a second chance.

Speaker 12 (01:07:28):
He says it about guys on the team currently, So
that's what a coach does. I mean he'll say, you know,
if other receivers aren't doing the job or whatever position,
pick one, that they could be better. That there's some
good and some bad. So I mean, there's there's nothing
different there than what he would say about somebody on
the on the current fifty three, right, But I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Feel like it takes a little more for him to
go to criticize, Like he's always mister positive and Charles
Lee would never that's right, I mean, you know he would.
Dave Canalis would never say that about Rusty Bromaker. News
Talk eleven ten WBT traffic check right now, Boomer von
Cannon on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
One second, Allan.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Allan just texted us on the text line but said,
the one thing that we forgot to mention about Hunter
Renfro is will it make a difference?

Speaker 12 (01:08:13):
That is a p one listeners.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Will it make a difference? And will it make a difference?

Speaker 12 (01:08:22):
There you go, boy, that's always the question that we
could throw out there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
You could throw it out there with everything.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
We'll make a difference. Hanging out with Jason's basement.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Wearing a Lululemon.

Speaker 12 (01:08:35):
You'll never be the Amity Fins ever again.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
No, but I can't wait till later this month when
you know who's coming to town. Larry Buckhorn. Oh and
the range, No nothing range.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I hope we're getting I hope we can give away
tickets to Old Larry's concert.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Well, if we give away tickets, I'm just gonna take
them all.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
This is Good Morning, Beat.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
News Talk eleven to ten do WBT eight twenty one
on your Thursday morning. Number of stories we are following
today as you get up and go about your day.
Verse one you've heard with Mark Garrison, Pineboro Road, Southeast
Charlotte an officer involved shooting last night. We'll have more
on that with Mark coming up in a few minutes.
And then of course Minneapolis yesterday at Minneapolis Catholic school

(01:09:21):
shooting where two children were killed seventeen injured. Fox's Jonathan
Hunt on the story in Minneapolis.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
There are no words that can capture the horror and
the evil of this unspeakable act.

Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
A tragic can deadly stop to the new school year.
After a shooter opened fire during a Catholic school mass
in Minneapolis.

Speaker 8 (01:09:43):
This was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children
and other people worshiping. The sheer, cruelty and cowardice firing
into a church full of children is absolutely inco unpresensible.

Speaker 7 (01:10:02):
Just before eight thirty am, police were called to the
Annunciation Catholic Church after the suspect, armed with a rifle,
shotgun and a pistol, began firing through church windows, sending
bullets and glass raining down onto elementary school children.

Speaker 6 (01:10:19):
These kids were literally praying. It was the first week
of school. They were in a church. These are kids
that should be learning with their friends, They should be
playing on the playground.

Speaker 7 (01:10:33):
Students described the moments of terror before being reunited with
their parents.

Speaker 9 (01:10:38):
I heard something like really loud, like I thought it
was fireworks in the church, and then then I saw
the shooting, and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm
so scared.

Speaker 7 (01:10:48):
Police say the suspect, twenty three year old Robin Westman,
fired dozens of rounds from the three weapons.

Speaker 10 (01:10:56):
Investigators say they're.

Speaker 7 (01:10:57):
Looking at an apparent manifesto left by Westman. Court records
from Dakota County, Minnesota, show a then seventeen year old
called Robert Westman was granted a name change to Robin
in twenty twenty, with the court writing quote minor child
identifies as a female, while Homeland Security Secretary Christy No

(01:11:20):
posted on x saying, in part quote, this deeply sick
murderer scrawled the words for the children and where is
your God? And kill Donald Trump on a rifle magazine.
This level of violence is unthinkable. Two children aged eight
and ten, were killed, Fourteen other children and.

Speaker 10 (01:11:41):
Three adults were wounded.

Speaker 7 (01:11:42):
They are all expected to survive, and FBI director Cash
Bettel says the shooting is being investigated as an act
of domestic terrorism and a hate crime targeting Catholics.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Fox's Jonathan hunt in Minnesota this morning, and of course
again two children killed, seventeen injured. When the suspect enters
a Catholic mass here in the first week of school
and barricades the area and opens fire, and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
You know it just it breaks your heart for the parents,
It breaks your heart for the children. And the three
adults who were injured were in their eighties. They were
parishioners and volunteering, and they're at mass and wounded in
such a senseless, horrific crime.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
And then there's the story in Charlotte on Friday night
where the young woman was stabbed to death on the
light rail arena. Zurutzka was her name. Mayor Lyles released
a statement regarding this. The president of the Charlotte Mecklenberg FOP,
the Fraternal Order of Police, was on with breaking Brett

(01:12:50):
Jensen last night right here on WBT, reacting to what
happened on Friday night and then reacting to the reaction
from city leaders.

Speaker 11 (01:12:57):
We've got a twenty three year old female who was
violently murdered on public transportation, and prior to this, city
council didn't care at all about all the crime that
was going on all the murders that have been going
on in the city up to this point, the nearly
double percentage of homicides that occurred in the Uptown area.
But all of a sudden, here we are months away

(01:13:18):
or weeks away now from a re election where every
candidate on city Council was being primaried with the exception
of a few, and now all of a sudden, they
chose this to be the platform in which they wanted
to go out and advocate for. So it's kind of
a little too little, too late that, you know, here
we are in August, going into September, and then in November,

(01:13:40):
city Council will be you know, voted on, and they
are using this as a platform. It's that bulizer their
political platform, you know. To hear the mayor come out
in her first sentence say oh, we feel sorry for
the family, and then the rest of her statement goes
on and pretty much justifying that what this guy did
wasn't his in his hands because he was mentally ill

(01:14:02):
is pretty grotastic if you ask me. So that's what
really prompted the restration on that. And then you've got
counsel in peacock and saying, oh, hey, you know we
need to we need a sales tax increase to go
on for transit. It's it's disgusting that they're using this
to gain political points and take advantage of the Charlotte voter,
thinking that they are not educated enough to make their

(01:14:25):
own opinion of what's right for them. We need to
address crime. We've been very vocal and frustrated about the
courts and the judges and city Council's lack of attention
of going out here and holding people accountable, working together
and and and push back against these violent offenders that
kill our betell our citizens. I just wish that city
council would be as passionate when the young black men

(01:14:48):
get killed in our in our communities on almost a
weekly to daily basis. I wish they did is as
passionate to those instances than they are when when it's
a CNPD officer that somebody in our community.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
That's Daniel Redford. Redford who was on with Brett Jensen
last night breaking with Brett Jenson. Daniel Redford, who's the
president of the Fraternal Order of Police for Charlotte Mecklenburg.
So this story continues, we'll talk about what also happened
while you were sleeping last night. It has been quite
a morning of headlines and not good ones for the

(01:15:22):
city of Charlotte and then across the country, obviously with
what happened in Minneapolis. News Talk eleven ten WBT on
your Thursday morning. It's August twenty eighth, Bo Thompson, Beth Troutman,
WBT News director Mark Garrison with us right now, and
we're following several stories today heading into the news. You
heard us replaying some of the interview last night on

(01:15:45):
WBT with breaking Brett Jensen with the FOP president locally,
Daniel Redford, reacting to the reaction of Mayor vy Lyles
to the stabbing on the light rail on Friday night
where a woman was killed who had recently fled from Ukraine.
And Mark is with us right now, and you can

(01:16:05):
hear that entire interview online in our podcast section if
you would like to. But Mark's been the playing clips
of it this morning, and like I said, we just did.
But the fact that the FOP president made the remarks
that he did, period is a story in of itself, Mark.

Speaker 12 (01:16:20):
Well, it really is.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
I mean, the FOP has been outspoken about crime in
the past, and they endorse candidates, but this is the
first time I can remember where they forcefully come out
and basically say the mayor is soft on crime, that
she's more interested in protecting the perpetrators than she is
protecting victims, and they're calling for her to be defeated.

(01:16:42):
In fact, they're calling for the entire city council that's
currently in office to be defeated because they're saying they're
soft on crime. So the cops are clearly fed up.
This is the rank and file. There's about seventeen hundred
members of the Fraternal Order of Police here in Charlotte Mecklenberg.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
And there's another story that and this is the most
recent one. While many of you were sleeping. This shooting
happened just before two am Pineboro Road. This is not
far from Highway seventy four in southeast Charlotte. But an
officer involved shooting last night.

Speaker 21 (01:17:14):
Mark.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
Yeah, this, as you say, about two o'clock this morning,
not terribly far actually from East mac High School. A
family was worried about a relative who was acting in
a bizarre way and had a weapon, they thought, so
they called nine one one. Now, this is Deputy Chief
Ryan Butler describing what happened when the officers rolled up.

Speaker 24 (01:17:33):
Person who placed a nine one one call also provided
information to nine one one that they believed that the
subject was possibly armed. As the officers arrived on scene,
pulled up behind the subject's vehicle, that subject immediately began
firing at the officers. The officers returned fire, striking the subject.
Officers then immediately transitioned into providing medical aid.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
So this person, we don't know if it's a male
or a female, was taken to the hospital. We don't
have their can, but you know, just think about that.
You get a nine to one one call, the nine
to one one operator tells you, as an officer, hey,
the families worried about this person. They've got a gun.
You roll up behind the guys in a car jumps
out and start shooting at you. That as you know,

(01:18:16):
that's the kind of thing officers run into and just
never know what they're going to encounter when they answer
our call.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
And you hear those stories a lot, especially from officers
saying that some of the most dangerous calls they go
on are domestic disputes, you know, where family members are
calling because they are concerned about another family member, and
this is one of their stories. We actually just got
mark a text on our WBT text line about this
from an emergency worker. This person said, good morning, WBT crew.

(01:18:41):
I have worked in emergency services for more than thirty
five years, including the last twenty one years here, and
I can tell you that the mental health services in
Mecklenburg County don't come close to meeting the needs of
those who require services. This is especially true when it
comes to dealing with ch chronically homeless people frequently present

(01:19:02):
problems with drugs and alcohol addiction. Those who work in
the mental health field will tell you there aren't nearly
enough of them nor their facilities that can provide help
for the large and growing population of the Charlotte metro area.
They go on to say what history shows that cases
such as the tragic event in Charlotte's transit the young

(01:19:23):
woman makes headlines for a week or two, and then
it fades quickly, and then people start paying attention to
the next headline and not enough to the headline from
the past.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
Yeah, and I think you're going to hear more about
the mental health aspect of this, and also just the
whole issue of security on the trains. I mean, this
murder on the train Friday night has touched a nerve
like I haven't seen in quite some time with crime
here in Charlotte. You know, we do a lot of
crime stories, a lot of murder and mayhem, but this

(01:19:53):
one has really touched a nerve.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
I think one of the things is the heartbreaking nature
of the fact that this young woman flew he had
a war torn country and survived war, and then came
here and was brutally taken down, brutally murdered on a
public transportation train.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
Well, it has shined a spotlight two on the lack
of security on the trains.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
And of course part of the discussion has been and
the FOP president last night. Obviously, mental health is an
important aspect of this story and one that needs to
be examined. But the mayor's response in her statement, in
the eyes of many, did not focus enough on the
victim here, and so that's where the discussion has led

(01:20:37):
in many cases. But this is far from over, Mark, Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
You're exactly right. Yeah, the mayor's statement was jaw dropping
in many ways. I mean, I've known her for a
long time, but I was stunned. I mean, there was
one sentence about the girl and the rest of it
was about the perpetrator, and it was sympathetic in its
approach to him, and it is sad that he's had
mental illness. But this was an incredibly brutal again.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Just days away from a primary for many local offices
in the city council included. But the general election is
not too far away either, so it's going to be
a very interesting fall season here and these stories are
still very much in development. Not to mention the Minnesota
Catholic school shooting yesterday that captured the attention of the
nation obviously, where two children were killed and seventeen injured.

(01:21:23):
The latest on that story throughout the day as well.
You'll know about all of them as long as you
stay with News Talk eleven to ten WBT. Thank you,
Mark Sir got this note on the old fashioned GMBT
show at WBT dot com. So now I know that
Kevin uses that, and so does Russell. I got two

(01:21:45):
So Russell says, this morning, you're talking about misnaming and mispronouncing.
A few months ago, we were at a dinner with
a group of friends and decided to stay for trivia night,
I was down to one group. It was down to
one group and ours. The final question to identify was
the artist based on a lyric from a Bruce Hornsby song.
I was the only one out of our group who

(01:22:06):
recognized the line, but thanks to Beth, all I could
think of was Larry Buckhorn.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
I just writ Russell back and I was like, oh
my gosh, I'm so sorry that Larry buck Corn has
stuck with you, but I'm gonna tell you that this
is my favorite email of all times.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Well, I just have this, like the real the story
should have ended this way, like he got I got it,
I got it, I got it, Larry butuck Corn. Butck
Corn like, no, sir, you're you're incorrect, and all the
all the while he's thinking of the right answer. It's
just not the right name.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Even he knew, he knew that it was Bruce.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Hornsby coming to the Amp Valentine in just a few weeks. Now,
before we get out of here, before he gets out
of here, we actually have a whole nother hour.

Speaker 12 (01:22:47):
But he's about you guys are welcome to leave at night.

Speaker 13 (01:22:49):
I feel.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Just let Jones take over the hour.

Speaker 12 (01:22:53):
Well that's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
There's uh, there's that Carolina, and then there's also the Carolina,
the East Carolina and North Carolina State college football is back.
Jim Zoki will be on the call for PCU tonight.

Speaker 12 (01:23:10):
This is two point zero because we had the Military
Bowl Game, which the Pirates won the in Annapolis twenty
six twenty one on an eighty six yard touchdown run
by Roja Harris.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Wait again, I think the.

Speaker 12 (01:23:19):
Wolf fack are pretty mad about that. Dave George said
something about wanting to kick something out of the Pirates
in this one as uh was it?

Speaker 13 (01:23:26):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (01:23:26):
Word, I would have said it if I could have
said it the first well is isa kick the blankout?
What's the blank? But he meant it more about his team,
not so much about the Pirates when the context context
we've learned as a big thing in this room.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Yes, so pronunciation is a big thing.

Speaker 12 (01:23:45):
In this It's gonna be a raucous crowd at Carter
Finley to and I looking forward to doing the game
from up there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
That's one of my favorite words, raucous.

Speaker 12 (01:23:52):
I don't know even why I said that. I never
talked that way in regular life.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
It sounds like it is you know it's as well.
It's great, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Hey, folks, you never heard us during electric election covered
say it's going to be a raucous caucus.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Racus caucus. I love it. I just think that's a great.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
H So you're on the call tonight for ECU, so
you won't be here tomorrow.

Speaker 12 (01:24:16):
No, you'll have the stylings of Sharon Thoris.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
On Sharon Thors Oh my my home goods buddy.

Speaker 12 (01:24:20):
Yeah, you guys can talk about home goods. Maybe included
you should pre arranged maybe have her jump in on
the news quiz.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Yes, that is a great idea that you.

Speaker 12 (01:24:28):
Have another tar Heel. The two of you could battle
it out because we know the smartest people in the room.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Speaking of tar heels, the tar Heels play on Monday
Night against TCU as opposed to ECU. That'll be in
Chapel Hill. This is the debut of Bill Belichick. The
Bill Belichick era begins on Monday Night. It began on
WBT last night because it was the first ever Carolina
Football Live Coaches show that, by the way, is only

(01:24:53):
going to feature Bill Belichick once and that was last night,
and they had Michael Lombardi there with Jones Angel and
the new head coach.

Speaker 20 (01:25:01):
This has been a steady climb. And when you look
at all the all the private schools that play football,
Notre Dame, USC Miami, and Florida TCU. So it's one
of the great private schools in college football, and they
have a tremendous tradition. But the last you know, fifteen
years have been you know, this program is one of

(01:25:22):
the top programs in the country. These guys are really competitive,
they play hard. We don't know how important football is
in Texas and these guys play like it. So it's
be a big challenge for us, but you know, we're
excited to face it. And let's be a good measuring stick.

Speaker 19 (01:25:36):
This is your thirtieth season as a head coach. You've
been in the NFL since the mid seventies. On the sideline,
do you still get excited this time of year, when
you're right here on the cusp of the season, does
that still get your blood pumping a little bit?

Speaker 21 (01:25:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:25:49):
I mean I get excited every day and whether it's
you know, recruiting freshmen and transfers, building the team, training, practice,
game day, I mean, it's all part of the process.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
And you know you.

Speaker 20 (01:25:59):
Feel a Paul, you just love you love all the
aspects of football. So beats working, really beats working, beats working.

Speaker 10 (01:26:08):
Coach is going to get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
Michael's gonna stick with us.

Speaker 5 (01:26:10):
Coach.

Speaker 19 (01:26:10):
Thank you for your time this evening. Appreciate you coming
and joining us this evening at top of the Hill.

Speaker 20 (01:26:14):
Yeah, well I appreciate it. And I just want to
say thanks to Millie Jen Jordan for being here. Appreciate it,
thank you for the support, and look forward to seeing
everyone on Monday night.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
No, I wasn't there. I don't think he was talking
about Michael Jordan. So assuming that she was there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Yeah, well she runs.

Speaker 12 (01:26:31):
Thanks ship.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Now here's a question. Everybody watches Kansas City or I say,
a lot of people watch this at Kansas City Chiefs games.
See if Taylor is going to show up in the box?
You think? Now this becomes the same thing with UNC games.
Where is Jordan going to be somewhere on the sideline
or in the box or somewhere.

Speaker 12 (01:26:48):
Will not be on the sidelin, I promise you, after
all the all the past few bys, she will not
be on the side.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Who's in that fur coat?

Speaker 12 (01:26:55):
It's just Jordan, it's ninety degrees.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
But I mean this is going to be. I mean,
this is where we are with this program.

Speaker 22 (01:27:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Every game is sold out, every game is on national TV,
and I wonder how that's going to be. And the
fact that, I mean Bill Belichick on the sidelines is
one thing. But now there's the girlfriend.

Speaker 12 (01:27:12):
What if Bill turns to like the price box area
where she is or the suite and does like the
little handle, like a little heart motion up to her.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
And then he catches it, or she comes down to
the sideline they do the pirouette thing like they did.

Speaker 12 (01:27:26):
I just made Dave Chadwick throw up at a little bit,
just like I'm gonna walk back out he actually is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
It's like the Simpsons meme the other burning The other
burning question we had from the from the game from
the show last night is at the very beginning, and
Michael Lombardi starts talking, is this Bill Belichick crunching ice
in the background.

Speaker 18 (01:27:47):
The best part about this is he won't say this.
and we're walking over to practice and here and I
were walking together and the students walk by and they're
not quite sure who he is because you've got a
hat on, you know. And then after they take about
five steps past them, they're like, holy heck.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
They don't say heck.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
I don't think it's nice. It sounded like he was
reaching right into a bag.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Well, as you said earlier, what did you say, drywall screws, not.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Like he was munching on some drywall screws.

Speaker 12 (01:28:13):
I'm going to go with cool Ranch Doritos, a bag
of Coolranch to Rito's as what I heard cool, they
are crunchy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
But we will we will be the only show in
the United States probably to ask Jones Ainzel the question
what was he eating?

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Good thing? Good thing? Jones Angel is on the show
next hour at nine thirty five for the debut conversation.
We talked to him every Thursday during a football season.
Today is the first one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
And may I go back to the beginning of this
little chat we're having right now to Russell's email about
Larry Buckhorn. Russell has now emailed back Bow and he said, oh,
you can let bo know that's exactly how it happened.
I shouted out Larry Buckhorn with all the confidence in
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Buzzer Man, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
I love Russ so much right now He's absolutely made
my entire life.

Speaker 5 (01:29:08):
Good morning Hello, playing coast from his talk eleven ten
and ninety nine three double bet.

Speaker 10 (01:29:16):
Everything that happens now is happening now?

Speaker 5 (01:29:18):
What happened then? This is Good Morning Beat with Bo
Thompson and Beth Troutbitch.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Today, Yeah to twenty two, twenty one, whatever it takes.
As the countdown rolls are Thursday morning in the Tyboid studio.
It is August twenty eighth, final hour of Good Morning
Bet on your Friday Eve, Bo Thompson and Beth Troutman
and in studio now after a few weeks away, is

(01:29:44):
the longtime host of The David Chadwick Show Sunday mornings
eight am, and of course, the senior pastor at Moments
of Hope Church, David Chadwick is back with us. Good
to see you, sir, Well, good morning Beth, Bo. Good
to see you both. There's a lot to get some
of it is on the lighter side of things. We've
got the Bill Belichick era set to start. It actually

(01:30:06):
started on this radio station last night with the debut
of Carolina Football Live, and the coach was at top
of the Hill with Jones, Angel and Mike Lombardi and
a lot of fans ready for this all to start.
But I do want to start here with a much
more somber story Minneapolis. We've been following this story for
the last couple of days here. It broke right after

(01:30:29):
we were done on the area yesterday, Minneapolis, a Catholic
school shooting to start the year. Children were at a
Catholic mass as the first few days of school were happening.
Two children killed, seventeen injured yesterday. Just an awful story
to be talking about at any time, but especially as

(01:30:51):
these kids are trying to restart their school year.

Speaker 17 (01:30:55):
Yeah, and as I understand, in Catholic schools every Wednesday
they have mass together, and this shooter went in and obviously,
in my opinion, is mentally ill. I don't know how
else you can describe someone who would do something like
this a trans individual. And then there's a pattern here
that seems to be opening up that makes me even

(01:31:16):
more aware of the need for some kind of mental
stability among people, and generally this kind of population as well.
Jen Psaki comes on and says she's offended by those
who say they're praying for the families. And my response
to that is, you know, we can't pray away somebody's
free will. People make choices, and those who are influenced

(01:31:37):
by evil forces. We can't stop that from happening. But
we do pray for comfort for the families and for
God to give strength to the individuals who lost loved
ones in this. And it's just especially egregious and a
sad part of society. I mean, guns don't kill people.
The people who carry the guns kill people. And this
person is obviously off mentally, spiritually, you know, the dark

(01:32:00):
forces of the universe that I believe in motivated somehow
this killing. And I just don't believe it's of God.
I don't believe God has any part of something like this.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
It's the thing that is so heartbreaking is hearing the
stories from the young people who witnessed this and who
lost their friends and who saw the injuries happen. And
it has that gut wrenching feeling of the Charleston shooting
that happened some years ago, because it was in a
place of worship, because these children were praying, you know,

(01:32:30):
they were there to celebrate God, they were there to
pray in the same way that those the victims in
Charleston were there for Bible study, you know, they were
there for celebrating God and worshiping. And there's something that
feels so dark in that innocence is taken in those moments,
because the point of prayer really is love and comfort.

Speaker 17 (01:32:53):
Absolutely, and this individual evidently had a great hatred for
God and probably not even believe in God. Is hard
to believe that you can hate someone you don't even
believe in, But there was that hatred that was there
that somehow, again, I just believe in a dark, demonic
world that influences people. And I don't know any other
explanation except this man's heart was captured by darkness.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
You know. Another part of this conversation that has stemmed
from the incident since it happened yesterday is the reality
that in twenty twenty five, if you are pastor of
a church, if you oversee a congregation at a religious facility,
you have to think about security. You have to think
about when you have your services on Sunday or Wednesday,

(01:33:40):
or whenever they happen over the course of the week.
Whenever you have church activities, you have to think about
security in a way that you did not. I'm not
saying that it wasn't needed always, but I don't feel
like we had these prevalence of stories thirty years ago
the way we do right now. And you, as a
pastor of a church and have been pastors of churches
over your year, you know, you can talk about how

(01:34:02):
that mentality has had to change when you're talking about
the operations.

Speaker 5 (01:34:05):
Of the church.

Speaker 12 (01:34:06):
Yeah, you're right, Bo.

Speaker 17 (01:34:07):
You know, I've been in ministry now for over forty years,
and forty years ago we didn't think about this kind
of thing. Yeah, it is prevalent among us now. And
at my church we have a deep and rich security team.
They are plentiful, and they are all over the congregation.
And the problem comes too with you know, pastors who
are more conservative, who are committed to biblical principles, have

(01:34:29):
to deal with some of these touchy issues that are
in culture, and when you do so from a biblical perspective,
you invite anger from those who don't believe.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
That that is true.

Speaker 17 (01:34:39):
You know, issues like transgenderism and the definition of marriage
and all of those kind of things. So churches that
are like mine have had to take real seriously making
sure that you're protected as a pastor, and we actually
have profiles on people that we have formed, and anybody
walks in it kind of fits that protele we have
a special I on them throughout the entire service.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Sadly, you know, you spoke to the idea of the
darkness that leads to.

Speaker 17 (01:35:09):
All.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Like you said, it's happening so frequently in our society now,
the darkness that leads to that. How did we in
your view, how did we get here? Because like you said,
you know, when I was in school, this thought never
even crossed my mind and didn't cross the minds of
parents at all, you know. And it was thirty years
ago that I graduated high school, and that was just

(01:35:30):
four years before Columbine happened. And then after Columbine, it
just seemed that it started happening.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
More and more and more. Where's the darkness coming from?

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Well, Beth, I have my own opinion.

Speaker 17 (01:35:40):
I think there has been an increasing, step by step
secularization of our society. We have slowly but surely invited
God out of our culture.

Speaker 19 (01:35:51):
I e.

Speaker 17 (01:35:52):
A Jen Psaki comment that we shouldn't pray after a
national shooting. So I believe in the inviting of God
out of our culture, nature of horrors of vacuum, so
something's got to rush into it. What rushes into it
is a secularization that we know better. And if you
have that kind of attitude, it only invites, in my opinion,

(01:36:13):
the forces of darkness to accompany the secularization of a society,
which then invites more and more this kind of tragedy occurring.
And that's my personal opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
David Chadwick Show is coming up Sunday morning at eight
am right here on WBT. We'll continue the conversation because
I have other things I want to get to that
are not quite as a somber as what we're talking about.
But these are very important issues that we need to discuss.
But we also I can't have you in here and
not get your thoughts on the pending debut of one

(01:36:45):
Bill Belichick, and also the reason that you weren't here
last week with us, which is a pretty cool reason.
When you told me about it, I thought, I can't
wait to hear about this on the other side. So
we'll tell you what we're talking about with David and
his sons over the past couple of days or a
few days Good morning DT.

Speaker 5 (01:37:03):
This is Good Morning BT.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Yeah, the talk of the college football world Monday night
in prime time from Keenan Stadium TCU at North Carolina.
More importantly, the debut of the Bill Belichick era. You
can hear the game on WBT starting at seven o'clock
and eight o'clock kickoff, and of course it's on national TV,

(01:37:33):
as all of these games are going to be because
everybody wants to see if Belichick can make this happen
at the college level. And our resident tar Heel or
one of them, because Beth's always here, but to David
Chabdick of course, is with us today. I got to
get your take on how you think this is all
going to go at your alma mater.

Speaker 17 (01:37:50):
Well, first of all, I think this is a huge
gamble to try to get North Carolina football relevant. Because
North Carolina football becomes relevant and the basketball program continues
to be at.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
Its level the most successful.

Speaker 17 (01:38:06):
Many people think in decades, it's the attempt to leave
the ACC. I think that's what's going to happen in
the years to come. I think they're posturing themselves to
be available to the SEC or the Big Ten because
it's all about money, and they want to be a
part of those big television revenues in the years to come.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
Oh that makes me sad.

Speaker 17 (01:38:26):
Me too, Beth, me too, because I remember when I
played with Coach Smith. You know, you'd walk off the court,
for example, at Wake Forest and you might have lost
the game. You'd say, see in Chapel Hill, and it
was a home and away kind of thing and it
was just great basketball, great theater. But that is not
the case any longer. Only playing NC State one time
this year, that just seems in basketball crazy to me.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Or see in the ACC Tournament, Yeah, exactly that as well,
that is so fun.

Speaker 17 (01:38:51):
But I think here's my take on it. It's a
circus and it's going to be a circus all year long.
If Bill Belichick wins, it's going to be an extraordinarily
crazy circus. If Bill Belichick loses, it's going to be
an extraordinarily crazy circus because it's going to attract national
attention no matter what happens all year long because of

(01:39:12):
who he is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
It's been a circus. And they hadn't played a game,
and hadn't he played a game yet.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Yeah, we're talking to Jones Angel in just a few
minutes about the game coming up and about the conversation
that he had with Bill Belichick, because even that in
and of itself is making headlines because he isn't going
to be part of the Coaches Show weekly the way
that coaches of the past have been.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Yeah, and you throw in the younger girlfriend and all
that other stuff.

Speaker 17 (01:39:33):
It is just a media circus.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
So I want to also talk to you about why
you weren't here last week. You sent me a note
about where you were going and said, I won't be
here for the regular Thursday morning discussion because I'm going
on a little impromptu trip with two people I know
really well to a really cool location.

Speaker 12 (01:39:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:39:55):
I've gotten to know a guy who is a partial
owner of the New York Yankees. He lives in Charlotte,
but he goes regularly to New York to see the games,
and he was going to be there last week. He
invited me and my sons to come up and spend
forty eight hours with him and go to the New
York Yankees Boston Red Sox game.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
And I love baseball. I'm a big fan.

Speaker 17 (01:40:16):
And that's probably the most heated rivalry in all of baseball.
So we went up and we were able to see
the Yankees Red Sox Thursday night and Friday night. We
got to see the games in the owner's box only
only the first night. Guess who walks in The guy
who's throwing out the first pitch on Thursday night, Yokovic,
Novak Djokovic and bo I know he's one of your,

(01:40:38):
if not favorite tennis players.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
Novak Djokovic joke. I'm sorry, that's all right, but he
I mean, I was send to you off the air.
It's not every day that you see someone and you've
met Michael Jordan. You know, Michael Jordan, he'd be in
this category. But I think Joker, as we call him
in the tennis fandom, I think he's the greatest that's
ever lived. David, you ever gotten humble Bragg on the show?

Speaker 14 (01:41:00):
I feel like you're I feel like that to watch
it from the owner's box, it was.

Speaker 5 (01:41:05):
A good morning DT. Humble Brad.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
That's the that's the coolest Humble Brack I've ever heard.
That's worth it. Well, they're playing the Red Sox, Bernie,
I can't help it. I'm sorry, Oh no, mos incredible.
It was a wonderful time.

Speaker 17 (01:41:19):
The food death.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
Oh my goodness, the food spread was just on Believe.
I had to point to you.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
I know, I not talked about the food that you did.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
That we're talking to baseball game and you guys are
talking the teams and you know, no vacuum Djokovic and
you're like, but Beth the food.

Speaker 17 (01:41:33):
And they have next door to Yankee Stadium the house
remnants of the house that Ruth built. They call this
the house that George built. George Steinbrenner and his couple
of his kids, I think went to Chapel Hill and
he gave some money to the baseball program there, I think,
And uh, he has some loyalties to that program.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
So you've got hal Steinbrenner in there, and you've got Cashman,
you said.

Speaker 17 (01:41:52):
You say, I met Brian Cashman, who's the general manager
of the Yankees, Omar Manaya, who used to be the
general manager of the Mets, who's now the assistant to
Cashman with the Yankees. And I just had a wonderful
time with the boys, especially got to see all the
sights too in New York City over the forty eight hours.
But the bottom line, you guys have heard me through
the years, Kid spell love Tim and we created memories.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
It cost a little bit of money.

Speaker 17 (01:42:15):
But you know what, I created a memory with my
sons and they have told me they'll never forget it.

Speaker 5 (01:42:19):
Dad.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
I took my daughter and my son to New York.
I guess it was three years ago, but we went
to Yankee Stadium. We didn't sit in the owner's box,
but we went to the Yankee Stadium and just going
there period, I'd never I haven't been at that many parks.
I've been to Atlanta Stadium a lot, but I'd always
wanted to go to Yankee Stadium, and we did that

(01:42:40):
on our trip. And you're right, I mean, I know
that's a great memory I have with them. But sitting
in the owner's box.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Yeah, at the next level for the New.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
York Yankees when they're playing the Red Sox, and oh,
by the way, when both teams are actually good.

Speaker 17 (01:42:56):
In the race, Yes, but the problem was the Red
Sox won both nights. My friend, I'm worried, thinks that
we were the curse that brought the losses to the Yankees.
I mean the next night we had to come back
and they lost twelve to one. I texted him and said,
see we weren't the reason, and he wrote back, residual.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
Your presence was still there.

Speaker 17 (01:43:17):
And I think they're on not a three game winning
stream now, so I don't want to go there.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
For the Yankees, you were the equivalent of the goat.
That was it a goat or a sheep or something
that caused the Red Sox curse?

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Or was that the white or was that the cuz.

Speaker 17 (01:43:33):
I wasn't the game though, where the squirrel ran out
on the field and got esp in national attention. It
was the lead story on ESPN. Squirrel runs out on
the Yankees Red Sox game. We were there and the
place went crazy rooting, not for the Yankees or the
Red Sox, rooting for the squirrels.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
No one could catch well. So you have some talk
about that this weekend. You've got you also have some
talk about the tragic story in Minneapolis, and so what
else is coming up on the David Chadwick Show.

Speaker 17 (01:44:02):
Yeah, we're going to take a moment and glance at
someone blowing the show far. On the Temple Mount in Jerusalem,
there's a group of people who want that temple built
on that Temple Mount, and it is an international conflagation
ready to happen because the Muslims that is their third
holiest site. That Jews want to build their most holy site,
the Temple there Again, it's just going to be something
to watch and somebody blowing the show far is an

(01:44:23):
attempt to say this thing is happening soon. And the
Temple Institute, which was formed in nineteen eighty seven for
the rebuilding of the Temple, basically came out with one statement,
it is happening and could that be the beginning of
the rebuilding of the Third Temple. It's just something to
watch that will cause international focus. And also I'll take
a moment on Sunday to talk about the cracker barrel

(01:44:44):
fiasco and get my insights on that as well.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
It's been a week since you've been gone. I'm telling
that lots happening, Lots happening. And then, like I said,
the tar Heels make their season debut with Bill Belichick
on WBT on Monday night, seven o'clock airtime, eight pm
kickoff on the tar Hill Sports Network from Keenan Stadium.
Good luck tar Heels in the room. That was hard
for you to say.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
One he struggled.

Speaker 17 (01:45:10):
You saw him struggle his tongue stumbled. Doesn't often, but
it did on that statement.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
Physical it's physically difficult for him.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
I'm still hung up on the fact that you met
Novak Djokovic. That would be the coolesty. Wanted me to
say hi to you. Yeah, I'm sure he did.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
He's a fan of yours.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
I'm sure he says he listens all the time. I know,
I know you to see the emails like that. All right,
thank you, David.

Speaker 17 (01:45:31):
It's great being with you guys. And always remember the
sun has come up.

Speaker 12 (01:45:35):
There's always hope, and.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
That sky is Carolina blue.

Speaker 4 (01:45:38):
Yeah, we know.

Speaker 5 (01:45:40):
This is good Morning Beat.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Last night on WBT the debut of Carolina Football Live
with Jones Angel and of course Michael Lombardi and one
Bill Belichick.

Speaker 20 (01:46:00):
This has been a steady climb and when you look
at all the all the private schools that play football,
Notre Dame, USC Miami and Florida TCU. So it's one
of the great private schools in college football. And they
have a tremendous tradition. But the last you know, fifteen
years have been you know, this program is one of

(01:46:22):
the top programs in the country. These guys are really competitive.
They play hard. We all know how important football is
in Texas, and these guys play like it. So Sam
a big challenge for us, but you know, we're excited
to face it. And let's be a good measuring stick.

Speaker 19 (01:46:35):
This is your thirtieth season as a head coach. You've
been in the NFL since the mid seventies. On the sideline,
do you still get excited this time of year, when
you're right here on the cusp of the season. Does
that still get your blood pumping a little bit?

Speaker 13 (01:46:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:46:48):
I mean I get excited every day and whether it's
you know, recruiting freshmen and transfers, building the team, training, practice,
game day, I mean, it's all part of the process.
And you know, if you love football, you just you
love all the aspects of football. So beats working, really
beats workings working.

Speaker 19 (01:47:07):
Coach is going to get out of here, Michael's going
to stick with us. Coach, thank you for your time
this evening. Appreciate you coming and joining us this evening
at top of the Hill.

Speaker 20 (01:47:14):
Yeah, well, I appreciate it, and I just want to
say thanks to Millie Jen Jordan for being here. Appreciate it,
thank you for the support and look forward to seeing
everyone Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Night, Big Finish. Well, that was cool hearing the crowd
there at top of the Hill and Jones, who we've
heard do that show there many times, but you got
some star power there last night with a legendary coach
and Jones. It's great to have you back on for
our weekly conversations during a football season that has a

(01:47:47):
little more of a spotlight on it this year, my friend.

Speaker 19 (01:47:50):
Oh yeah, absolutely, and great to be with you guys
again and really looking forward to the season. This has been.
This has been maybe the most uncertain nine months in
Carolina football history. And I don't mean that in a
negative way. I don't mean that things are bad. I
just mean there's so much change, right, I mean, just

(01:48:13):
so much different about Carolina than ever before. And whether
that's Coach Belichick himself or the staff he's put together,
all the new players, or just everything around the program.
And I think the way that the university and the
town and the athletic department has supported this program and
it has been in it has been a transformative nine

(01:48:36):
months for Carolina football. That doesn't guys, guarantee success on
Monday Night, of course, but I do think that Carolina
really feels like as this season moves along and as
the next several seasons play out, that they're going to
be taking some real positive steps in football and looking
forward to seeing that first step coming up on Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
So what's it like sitting there having this interview with
Bill Belichick at Top of the Hill. He's he's a
different a different kind of coach, you know, than you
normally have on the on the Coaches Show, or that
you've normally had on the Coaches Show, right, I mean,
he's Bill Belichick.

Speaker 19 (01:49:10):
Sure, and Beth, great to talk with you again, you
know what I have And Coach Felichick and I have
done a couple of things together since he was named
head coach, probably five or six different events or shows
or recordings or whatever it may be. He has been terrific.
It has been is very professional. We're there to do

(01:49:31):
what we're there to do, but we get it done,
and we get it done efficiently and on we go
and and to me, that's kind of who he is.
You know, he is extraordinarily detail oriented. He's been extraordinarily professional,
I'll use that word again. And and you see it
in the way that his team is organized. You see

(01:49:51):
it in the way that his practices are run. You
can see why he has been as successful as he
has been in his his career because he truly does
not worry about the other stuff. He's worried about what
his job is in that moment, and he's going to
do it to the best of his ability. So I'm
going to tell you, guys, we've had some big crowds,

(01:50:12):
certainly through the years at Top of the Hill, and
you know, Carolina has been in big games and both
in football and basketball, and there have been championships and
big moments and all those things. But it may have
been as full as it's ever been for a show
last night. It was just jam packed. Everybody was so
excited to hear from Coach Belichick, and we really appreciated

(01:50:33):
him coming and I think everybody really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
Well, you mentioned Jones Angel some of the people that
you've worked with over the years. I mean, Bill Belichick
is obviously sort of in his own category with what
he's done in the NFL and his long, long resume,
But when I think back about who you've worked with,
I mean, you've done coaches shows with Roy Williams many
many times, and obviously Mac Brown, who's an institution at

(01:50:57):
North Carolina. And I don't know, you know what your
interactions were, if at all, with Dean Smith. Obviously a
lot younger when Dean Smith was the coach of Carolina.
But you have had the opportunity to spend time with
some of the all time greats. And I'm wondering how
you compare what you've sort of encountered with with Bill
Belichick when you compare it with somebody like Roy Williams,

(01:51:20):
because you have had the opportunity to work alongside some
really legendary figures.

Speaker 19 (01:51:26):
Well, I think I'll say two different things. One is,
I do think Bill Belichick is like his level of
celebrity supersedes athletic celebrity, right, Like, I mean he is
that he has moved into more of like of course
he's well known in the athletic realm, but I think

(01:51:48):
you have that pop culture kind of relevancy as well,
if that's the right term. And so, and I think
I underestimated that. I Mean, there's just no question that
people know who Build Belichick is, and that's because of
how successful he's been and what he's been able to
do and in the most visible sports entity in the

(01:52:10):
United States in the NFL, and he has cubmitted himself
certainly as one of, if not the best coach in
the history of that league, and certainly the one that
has the most playoff wins and most Super Bowls and
second most wins all time. So from that angle, he
is just in a in a very very high level

(01:52:31):
what I think all these great coaches do, and whether
that is Bill Belichick or whether that's Roy Williams or
Dean Smith mac Brown, you know, they they stay true
to who they are and they follow what has led
them to that success. Because I don't think any of
those gentlemen and I didn't know Coach Smith more than

(01:52:53):
just being a fan of his teams and an admire
of what he did both on and off the court
and what he's meant to Carolina. But I don't think
any of those guys are the same personality necessarily. But
they've all been successful in their chosen field because they
have found what works for them and they have stayed
true to that whether or not people like it or not.

(01:53:16):
And for Bill Belichick, my impression has been that that
has been being very nose to the grindstone, very detail oriented,
very in depth into the nuances of the game, very disciplined,
and I think his teams have done that as well
now certainly at the professional level. It doesn't hurt to

(01:53:36):
have Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski and all those great
players that he had, but they were also they were
also the best coach team. And so I think you're
going to start to see that with Carolina, especially as
this season plays out, and the more that these people
are together, the more coaching, the more practiced there is,

(01:53:56):
I think you're going to see that benefit Carolina on
the field of the way coach Belichick and his staff operate.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
Okay, so look, you know us, we're a little bit
different than a lot of the other shows that I
think you come on each week. We're you know, we're
we're willing to go there on certain things. We used
to We used to joke because Ron Rivera would come
on with Mick Mixon on the Panthers Radio network and
in their weekly conversation, Ron Rivera was famous for having

(01:54:23):
a snack while he was talking to Mick.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
To Mick Mixon liked to eat candy. He would just,
you know, because he knew that Mick Mixon hated.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
It, So I'm listening last night. I listened to the
whole show last night, because I mean, I listened to
it a lot, but I especially interested, obviously, and how
this would would sound from top of the hill. And
you did a great job. But in the opening remarks
or close to the beginning, so Lombardi's talking here, and
then we heard something in the background, so play that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:48):
The best part.

Speaker 18 (01:54:49):
About this is he won't say this, but the best
part is when you're walking on campus and we're walking
over to practice, and here and I were walking together
and the students walk by and they're not quite sure
who he is because you've got a hat on, you know,
And then after they take about five steps past them,
they're like, holy heck.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
Okay, somebody's chomping in the background. I'm like, is that Belichick?
Is that John's? Who is that?

Speaker 19 (01:55:11):
I think that that was definitely coolchick. Okay, So he
had just come from So Carolina has changed when they practiced,
So under coach Brown, Caroline would practice in the morning.
Coach Belichick they practice after class, so they're practicing in
the afternoon. So in fact, if you heard the show,
he actually came in just a two or three minutes

(01:55:32):
after the show started, because they had gotten off the
practice field. He had gone and gotten showered up and
was trying to get across campus to the top of
the hill, and so he had a I think it
was a glass of elimonade with him, or some kind
of water eliminade, something like that, and so he was
still trying to cool off a little bit and get
himself ready to go. So I think that that was
definitely him having a sip of the lemonade and chomping

(01:55:53):
on some ice there. But look, you win six Super Bowls, guys,
you can do whatever you.

Speaker 1 (01:55:57):
Want anything, do what you're exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
We were taking we were taking suggestions. People in the
text line thought maybe it was corn nuts, maybe doritos.

Speaker 5 (01:56:07):
They did it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
No, but it's ice.

Speaker 11 (01:56:09):
Just a sip of the lemonade and a chomp on
some ice.

Speaker 19 (01:56:11):
That's cool down. So it's not nearly as exciting as
corn nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
See who else is going to ask you that? Jones?

Speaker 19 (01:56:18):
Right, Hey, we got all our bases covered.

Speaker 5 (01:56:20):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Well, look Monday night, this is what it's all been
building towards. It's TCU at North Carolina at Keenan all
the nation will be watching and of course listening on
the Tarhill Sports Network seven o'clock airtime, eight pm kickoff.
After all the build up, we're finally here, Jones and
looking forward.

Speaker 19 (01:56:38):
To it me too, guys, and looking forward to talking
with you all season long. Appreciate what you do for
us there in the Charlotte area, so that's a great
tar Hill town. And appreciate you guys bringing the Tario
Sports Network to them. So look forward to talking with
you this year and we'll see what happens Monday nights.

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
So great to chat Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
All right, take care, Jones, We'll talk to you next time.
Off he goes and was looking at that you can
ask him, You can ask him about the She was like,
you're gonna do it. I said, yeah, that's who we are.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
I feel like we have to ask because we did
like an entire twenty minute conversation about who's eating what.
I don't know how I feel about all of it,
but I know that Jones is going to make me
feel good. Yes, And that was something I said earlier
today as well.

Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
He made me feel good.

Speaker 3 (01:57:22):
It makes me feel good. That was a good story.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
It was lemonade as he said, we've covered all the
bases now. Surely did see solving the world's problem.

Speaker 22 (01:57:30):
Dal All right, I think okay, Gang appreciate it. I'm
getting into a little heavier traffic here, but I appreciate
you guys. You make my morning better every day.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
I appreciate it. Well, Thank you very much, Al, thank
you very much.

Speaker 5 (01:57:45):
You can call us bow and death. This is good
morning beat.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
Why you're gonna read the text? You gotta Kim.

Speaker 3 (01:57:54):
Kim has texted and said another bow moment.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
I swear he called Jones John's that's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
I always like Kim. She's my favorite caller for the show.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
Kim's in concord. I love Kim.

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Von Cannon, Jim Zochi, Bernie and Steve and great talk Beef,
great talk Bosa.

Speaker 12 (01:58:21):
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Time to add a whole new wing on here.

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