December 19, 2025 • 16 mins
Deputy Editor at CBR Sean O'Connell joins Bo and Beth to preview the newest Avatar movie as well as discuss the impact that Rob Reiner had on the film industry.
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
Nothing will prepare you for what critics are calling by far,
the best Avatar movie.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This world goes much deeper than you imagine.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's bigger, turn them off, and more emotional than ever.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Your father and I an not return.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You go as far and as fast as you got.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
He never quits, That's right, so he's never quit.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Get your three D tickets. Now there is.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Calm, Avatar, Fire and Dash ready and now I'm playing.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
I've seen and I've seen rain. I've seen sunny days
that a thought would never rn. I've seen only times
when it could not find a friend. But I always
thought that I'd see you again.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Now, to my knowledge, James Taylor is not on the
Avatar three soundtrack. But you know, I'm just me Jesus
trying to track with the theme of the thing here Avatar.
Fire and Ash is the name of the new movie
that opens up today. Our longtime movie critic, and you
read his stuff on CBR. He is Sean O'Connell with
(01:42):
us for the final Friday that we're on the air
here in twenty twenty five. Good morning to you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's so good to be with you, guys. Happy Merry Christmas,
Happy New Year, and all that jazz.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Absolutely last time we talked to you, you mentioned the
fact that you had seen this movie, and you also
see that you were pretty nonplussed about this movie. And
I know now you can fully talk about this movie.
I actually and we'll get to this in a minute.
I feel like it's interesting because there's a movie that
comes out a year from now that I believe a
trailer is attached to this movie that's getting more talk
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than this actual movie, and it's Avatar, and the movie's Avatar.
I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I went to Carolina Pavilion last yesterday at two o'clock
in the afternoon just to see the trailer, the teaser
trailer for Avengers Doomsday, which is coming to theaters next December,
and the reveal is out there. Are we allowed to
talk about it. Should I say it that do? I
want to leave it for some people. I don't know
(02:42):
what to do here.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, so here's what I'll do. I think we should
not I think we should not reveal it. But I'm
going to ask you a question and you'll know what
I mean. So it's true.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Then oh yeah, okay, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That's a big deal. So if you're listening, I'm very
excited for it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I do too, pointing. I got up to after the
trailers James Cameron got my fifteen dollars because I didn't
want to sit through Avatar again. And I'll let you
know I was not the only one. There were five
other people who also stood up and left after the trip.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
So there are people that paid. And we know how
expensive movie tickets are these days, so you know this
is a thing because if this happened with multiple people
in your theater, I'm imagining across the country, like who
would have thought? I mean, Avatar is such a fame.
It's never been my thing, but I know a lot
of people have loved it, and it's like now and
it's third, it's third movie. But think about that, a
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movie that big people just yesterday bought tickets to that
to see like it's like a minute and a half.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Trailer, right, yes, and one that you can readily find
online in a very good format as well too.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But people still wanted to go see it on the
big screen. Cicos, sickos like myself wanted to go see
it on the big screen.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Now, in James Cameron's defense, the theater was really crowded
at two pm and a lot of people did stay,
so you know they're still Avatar fans out there.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I'm not trying to be too inside when I say,
did what I had? What happens that's been rumored, really happened,
And we're not going to say what it is. You
can find out in fifteen seconds if you google it.
But I'm just not going to ruin it right here,
right now, So that'll be my job.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I'm the one who.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Does that's will in just a moment tell you exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
What we'll tell you about it. We got powers.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So anyway, now, before we got talking about Avatar with
the the Avengers thing, like I've heard that there are
like four different trailers out there. Is that true?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So allegedly, like nobody at Disney or Marvel will go
on record and tell me, you know, the truth, And
in fact, the only hint that I got from them was, hey,
if you want to see this, you should probably get
a ticket for Avatar on opening day. But then it leaked,
and that's why I think that they're handling this so poorly,
Like there's no way to stop piracy. You know, there
(04:53):
go the minutes that Avatar starts screening in theaters, people
are going to record this and put it online. And
that's not how I would think Marvel wants, you know,
the majority of fans to see the first footage from
Avengers Doomsday.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The reveal in the trailer that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I saw yesterday, I saw online on Monday because of
like Avatar screenings in Indonesia, So it's just like put
it out in a proper fashion. Also, I think it's
really gross that Disney's plan allegedly is to put a
different Doomsday trailer in front of Avatar for the next
four weeks, encouraging people to go back and pay to
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see Avatar for the next four weeks. And I'm sorry,
James Cameron needs help selling Avatar tickets, Like those gids
make two billion on their own you know, what kind
of gimmick do you need to get people in to
see your new Avatar film. I think that that's a
horrible way to do it. Supergirl just did this incredible
trailer launch premiere. They put the trailer out there that
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the fans enjoy it, and we moved on with our lives.
Stop with this gimmick stuff. It's ridiculous and you don't
need it for a movie like Avengers Doomsday.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Well, let's talk about Avatar. Do we have to be
I know, I know, and you and I pretty much
I think a line on our taste in films and
TV shows, pretty much everything. We're kind of like the
same person when it comes to our entertainment choices. Which,
by the way, by the way, the Life of Chuck
was named on multiple lists as like the movie of
(06:19):
the year, that was the one that made me gasp
a few weeks ago, and people were like, what did
he say? No, it made me gasp. I loved the
movie so much so, by the way, other people agreed
Sean that the Life of Chuck was one of the
greatest movies of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Incredible.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Why is it just that that James Cameron just put
too much time in between all of these films. I mean,
I remember the first one coming out and how beautiful
it was on the big screen. But are people just
and are you one of the people too, who's just
kind of like, man, I'm kind of over this. We're
too far into the we're too far into the future
(06:57):
to be Here's.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
What I think happened with this one. And truly it's
not a bad movie. It's James Kevin does not know
how to make a bad movie. Right, Like, you'll pay
to go see this. The visuals will be unbelievably great,
and it's relatively entertaining from a blockbuster standpoint. There was
a fourteen year gap between the first Avatar and the
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second one, and.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I fell asleep in the second one.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Sadly, Okay, then we're a little different in that one,
because I at least liked the second one more than
the first one.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I fell asleep in the first one.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I fell asleep about three quarters of the way through.
It had been a long day, though you know not to.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
There should be no franchise on Earth where you can
tell which one you fell asleep at endorsement on any
there are nine police academies I can watch all of
them from start.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
To finish, right right, right, I never fell asleep in
Police Academy.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
But number three is the problem with this one, with
the Way of Water with a Fire and Ash, is
that it comes so soon after The Way of Water
that it just feels familiar. Now it doesn't feel as groundbreaking,
and honestly, like to me having just seen.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The Way of Water, like the stories are way too similar,
like story beats and character developments feel like we just
rehashed them in the previous movie. And with a with
a with a world as rich in imagination as Pandora,
like I thought James Cameron would never run out of
you know, interesting things to do in it, and if
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he's already sort of recycling ideas, and so many of
the battle scenes like flying on the back of those
winged dragons and the whales popping out of the ocean,
I was like, James, you just did this, you know,
like do we have to do it again? And it's longer,
it's three hours, Like it's a three hour movie, and
there's not a lot of interesting new stuff happening in it.
Then the visuals will only carry me so far. And
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so you know, It's interesting because towards the end of
this press tour he was sort of saying, like, I'm
probably done. I might want to move other things. And
I know I said I'd do four and five, but
that's only if the audience wants them. I think he's
kind of done. Also, I think he's I think he's
just said only one to say about this and it's
time to go do other things.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Are you saying he's bored with his own movie?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Probably, Yeah, I think so. You know, all of these
franchises run their course. Michael Bay. By the time he
got to the end of the Transformers movies, he was like,
I don't know what else to do with these things.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
You just kind of it's time for the go.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But do something.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Else to stimulate your creativity and maybe pass the baton
to someone else.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Sean, I don't normally do this, but I'm gonna do it.
Any chance you could hang on for one more segment.
I have questions I haven't gotten to and I I'm
out of time at this At this moment.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You guys will have me.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Ah see, that's my guy right there. It's like total
you It would be absolutely totally and in all other
ways intomtly little.
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Speaker 4 (10:03):
For my money, one of the greatest movies of all time,
and I probably did not get it at least all
of it when I went to see it at Park
Terrace in seventh grade, but each subsequent viewing of The
Princess Bride over the years made me realize just how
good it was. And it's just one of many. And
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we have Sean O'Connell from CBR with us for a
second segment, so so much appreciate him hanging on here.
But Sean and I'd be remiss if we did not
talk to you about the passing of Rob Reiner this
week and a tragic story, a terrible story, and also
a day we're talking about a tragic plane crash with
Greg Biffle yesterday and the passing of Jim Hunton. So
it's a heavy week, as Beth and I've been talking
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about here, but earlier this week and of course, the
investigation continues into the horrific stabbing there of Rob Reiner
and his wife. But his movies, I mean, when you
just and I don't care, you know where you come from,
you you cannot look at his body of work and
not find one of those movies, if not all of them,
(11:08):
that you love.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Well, it's crazy that, I mean, he doesn't get mentioned
with a lot of the greats, primarily because you know,
as his career, his directing career went on, he took
on a bunch of movies that didn't work quite as well.
But to kick off the you know, his filmography, he
went from Spinal Tap to Stand By Me, to Princess Bride,
to When Harry Met Sally, to Misery to A Few
(11:32):
Good Men to the American President, which is like an
unprecedented run. And it's like it's like so many different
genres that he just perfected. And what it was was
he he had he cared about characters.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You know, all of these things that we watch, we
watch him because we love the characters that are involved
in them.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And to me, A Few Good Men is a top
five movie of all time. Like I'll go back and
rewatch The Courtroom scene from Good Men. It probably once
every two or three months, just just to appreciate how
it's done. The performances. Tom Cruise was like twenty six
years old and he's going toe to toe with Nicholson
at his prime, you know, and it's like it's insane.
(12:14):
So yeah, it's deeply sad. And what I hope is that,
you know, this does shine a spotlight on how good
Rob Reiner was for a long crutch of time, and
how many of these beloved movies, you know, we have
because of his contributions.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
I mean, and he was also a great actor in
his own right, a great writer. One of my favorite
films of his that a lot of people didn't love,
but he also was an actor in the film, but
directed The Story of Us with Michelle Pfeiffer and Bruce Willis,
and was kind of this lovely film about the complexities
of marriage, and I think people didn't like it because
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maybe it was a little too realistic.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
It was.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And then The Bucket List also that came out in
two thousand and seven, which was Morgan Freeman and Nicholson
again paired with him, was one of his most fine,
angeally successful ones. Just a crowd pleaser that he hit
right down the middle. You know, he had his finger
on the pulse of what people wanted when they went
to the movies and delivered on them. Matthew talking about
him as an actor as well too. There's a show
that I adore called The Bear and he had a
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significant part in the third season two, which makes me
curious about how they're going to handle that going for like,
he was still very active in the community. So, yeah,
a tragic loss and an incredible, incredible talent.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
And you mentioned a few good Men, which is like
the who's who of a list actors of all time.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Well, and Aaron Sorkin, the Oscar winning writer and Emmy
winning writer, wrote a Few Good Men and he was
twenty six when he wrote that for as a stage play,
originally for Broadway twenty six.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
So you have that on one hand, and then you
have a movie like The Princess Bride, and you've got
Mandy Patinkin and you've got Andre the Giant and Christopher guessed,
I mean, and what's who's Princess Buttercup? Why can't I
think of it? Well Robin Rapp, Yeah, I mean, what
an eclectic cast that is, and just shows you he's
he was at home and two completely different genres. One
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was Hollywood blockbuster and one was one of those movies
that still to this day I watch it and I
see things that I missed that I'm seeing for the
first time because there's so much humor embedded in that,
in that storyline, and that's how Christopher Guest movies tend
to go. But yeah, I wanted to make sure we
had at a moment to mention that too, because from
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just a body of work standpoint, you have to you
have to.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Many directors get pigeonholed right like they deliver something and
then the industry immediately says, oh, give me more of that, right,
but he from him to for him to go to
from The Princess Bride to When Harry met Sally, which
many of view as like the pre eminent rom com
you know, ever, and then to do misery right after that,
like to take on a Stephen King adaptation about a
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really gruesome situation where a fan you know, kidnapped, kidnaps
an author that she loves, and and to get you know,
Oscar nominated performances out of that cast. It's just the
versatility needs to be celebrated, you know, and I don't
think it gets I don't think it gets discussed enough
when it.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Comes to Ropert I think Stephen King. I think I
read it this week that Stephen King said that was
his favorite adaptation or the best done adaptation of one
of his books.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yes, said he hugged Rob Reiner after he screened it,
gave him a big hug.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
But in that he was talking about stand by Me.
And then you talk about misery. I mean, it's like,
what a what a resume? So anyway, and let's.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Come full Circuleait one second, let's come full circle. The
guy who is the new Rob Reiner when it comes
to Stephen King adaptations is a man named Mike Flanagan,
who directed a film called the Life of Chuck, which
is based on a Stephen King's story, and Flanagan has
done a couple of other Stephen King adaptations. So people
get on board with Mike Flanagan right now because everything
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that he's done is phenomenal, and he has amazing shows
on Netflix and he's delivered a number of incredible films
that are Stephen King adaptations. He's going to be working
on on a Carrey adaptation next, and he's eventually going
to do the Dark Tower. He's a true genius and
people need to start celebrating him as well.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I love that we started almost half an hour ago
with Life of Chuck and we're ending with Life of Chuck.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
That would be absolutely positively and in all other ways inconceivable. Sean.
It's good to talk to you, my friend. Happy New Year,
Merry Christmas, and we'll talk to you in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Always a pleasure, guys, thanks so much for the time.
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Shut Your.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Fire is the only piercing in this world.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Nothing will prepare you for what critics are calling by far,
the best Avatar movie.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This world goes much deeper than you imagine.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's bigger, turn them off, and more emotional than ever.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Your father and I an not return.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You go as far and as fast as you got.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
He never quits, That's right, so he's never quit.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Get your three D tickets. Now there is.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Calm, Avatar, Fire and Dash ready and now I'm playing.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
I've seen and I've seen rain. I've seen sunny days
that a thought would never rn. I've seen only times
when it could not find a friend. But I always
thought that I'd see you again.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Now, to my knowledge, James Taylor is not on the
Avatar three soundtrack. But you know, I'm just me Jesus
trying to track with the theme of the thing here Avatar.
Fire and Ash is the name of the new movie
that opens up today. Our longtime movie critic, and you
read his stuff on CBR. He is Sean O'Connell with
(01:42):
us for the final Friday that we're on the air
here in twenty twenty five. Good morning to you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's so good to be with you, guys. Happy Merry Christmas,
Happy New Year, and all that jazz.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Absolutely last time we talked to you, you mentioned the
fact that you had seen this movie, and you also
see that you were pretty nonplussed about this movie. And
I know now you can fully talk about this movie.
I actually and we'll get to this in a minute.
I feel like it's interesting because there's a movie that
comes out a year from now that I believe a
trailer is attached to this movie that's getting more talk
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than this actual movie, and it's Avatar, and the movie's Avatar.
I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I went to Carolina Pavilion last yesterday at two o'clock
in the afternoon just to see the trailer, the teaser
trailer for Avengers Doomsday, which is coming to theaters next December,
and the reveal is out there. Are we allowed to
talk about it. Should I say it that do? I
want to leave it for some people. I don't know
(02:42):
what to do here.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, so here's what I'll do. I think we should
not I think we should not reveal it. But I'm
going to ask you a question and you'll know what
I mean. So it's true.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Then oh yeah, okay, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That's a big deal. So if you're listening, I'm very
excited for it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I do too, pointing. I got up to after the
trailers James Cameron got my fifteen dollars because I didn't
want to sit through Avatar again. And I'll let you
know I was not the only one. There were five
other people who also stood up and left after the trip.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
So there are people that paid. And we know how
expensive movie tickets are these days, so you know this
is a thing because if this happened with multiple people
in your theater, I'm imagining across the country, like who
would have thought? I mean, Avatar is such a fame.
It's never been my thing, but I know a lot
of people have loved it, and it's like now and
it's third, it's third movie. But think about that, a
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movie that big people just yesterday bought tickets to that
to see like it's like a minute and a half.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Trailer, right, yes, and one that you can readily find
online in a very good format as well too.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But people still wanted to go see it on the
big screen. Cicos, sickos like myself wanted to go see
it on the big screen.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Now, in James Cameron's defense, the theater was really crowded
at two pm and a lot of people did stay,
so you know they're still Avatar fans out there.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I'm not trying to be too inside when I say,
did what I had? What happens that's been rumored, really happened,
And we're not going to say what it is. You
can find out in fifteen seconds if you google it.
But I'm just not going to ruin it right here,
right now, So that'll be my job.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I'm the one who.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Does that's will in just a moment tell you exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
What we'll tell you about it. We got powers.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So anyway, now, before we got talking about Avatar with
the the Avengers thing, like I've heard that there are
like four different trailers out there. Is that true?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So allegedly, like nobody at Disney or Marvel will go
on record and tell me, you know, the truth, And
in fact, the only hint that I got from them was, hey,
if you want to see this, you should probably get
a ticket for Avatar on opening day. But then it leaked,
and that's why I think that they're handling this so poorly,
Like there's no way to stop piracy. You know, there
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go the minutes that Avatar starts screening in theaters, people
are going to record this and put it online. And
that's not how I would think Marvel wants, you know,
the majority of fans to see the first footage from
Avengers Doomsday.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The reveal in the trailer that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I saw yesterday, I saw online on Monday because of
like Avatar screenings in Indonesia, So it's just like put
it out in a proper fashion. Also, I think it's
really gross that Disney's plan allegedly is to put a
different Doomsday trailer in front of Avatar for the next
four weeks, encouraging people to go back and pay to
(05:30):
see Avatar for the next four weeks. And I'm sorry,
James Cameron needs help selling Avatar tickets, Like those gids
make two billion on their own you know, what kind
of gimmick do you need to get people in to
see your new Avatar film. I think that that's a
horrible way to do it. Supergirl just did this incredible
trailer launch premiere. They put the trailer out there that
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the fans enjoy it, and we moved on with our lives.
Stop with this gimmick stuff. It's ridiculous and you don't
need it for a movie like Avengers Doomsday.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Well, let's talk about Avatar. Do we have to be
I know, I know, and you and I pretty much
I think a line on our taste in films and
TV shows, pretty much everything. We're kind of like the
same person when it comes to our entertainment choices. Which,
by the way, by the way, the Life of Chuck
was named on multiple lists as like the movie of
(06:19):
the year, that was the one that made me gasp
a few weeks ago, and people were like, what did
he say? No, it made me gasp. I loved the
movie so much so, by the way, other people agreed
Sean that the Life of Chuck was one of the
greatest movies of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Incredible.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Why is it just that that James Cameron just put
too much time in between all of these films. I mean,
I remember the first one coming out and how beautiful
it was on the big screen. But are people just
and are you one of the people too, who's just
kind of like, man, I'm kind of over this. We're
too far into the we're too far into the future
(06:57):
to be Here's.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
What I think happened with this one. And truly it's
not a bad movie. It's James Kevin does not know
how to make a bad movie. Right, Like, you'll pay
to go see this. The visuals will be unbelievably great,
and it's relatively entertaining from a blockbuster standpoint. There was
a fourteen year gap between the first Avatar and the
(07:18):
second one, and.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I fell asleep in the second one.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Sadly, Okay, then we're a little different in that one,
because I at least liked the second one more than
the first one.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I fell asleep in the first one.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I fell asleep about three quarters of the way through.
It had been a long day, though you know not to.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
There should be no franchise on Earth where you can
tell which one you fell asleep at endorsement on any
there are nine police academies I can watch all of
them from start.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
To finish, right right, right, I never fell asleep in
Police Academy.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
But number three is the problem with this one, with
the Way of Water with a Fire and Ash, is
that it comes so soon after The Way of Water
that it just feels familiar. Now it doesn't feel as groundbreaking,
and honestly, like to me having just seen.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The Way of Water, like the stories are way too similar,
like story beats and character developments feel like we just
rehashed them in the previous movie. And with a with
a with a world as rich in imagination as Pandora,
like I thought James Cameron would never run out of
you know, interesting things to do in it, and if
(08:23):
he's already sort of recycling ideas, and so many of
the battle scenes like flying on the back of those
winged dragons and the whales popping out of the ocean,
I was like, James, you just did this, you know,
like do we have to do it again? And it's longer,
it's three hours, Like it's a three hour movie, and
there's not a lot of interesting new stuff happening in it.
Then the visuals will only carry me so far. And
(08:44):
so you know, It's interesting because towards the end of
this press tour he was sort of saying, like, I'm
probably done. I might want to move other things. And
I know I said I'd do four and five, but
that's only if the audience wants them. I think he's
kind of done. Also, I think he's I think he's
just said only one to say about this and it's
time to go do other things.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Are you saying he's bored with his own movie?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Probably, Yeah, I think so. You know, all of these
franchises run their course. Michael Bay. By the time he
got to the end of the Transformers movies, he was like,
I don't know what else to do with these things.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
You just kind of it's time for the go.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But do something.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Else to stimulate your creativity and maybe pass the baton
to someone else.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Sean, I don't normally do this, but I'm gonna do it.
Any chance you could hang on for one more segment.
I have questions I haven't gotten to and I I'm
out of time at this At this moment.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You guys will have me.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Ah see, that's my guy right there. It's like total
you It would be absolutely totally and in all other
ways intomtly little.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
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Speaker 4 (10:03):
For my money, one of the greatest movies of all time,
and I probably did not get it at least all
of it when I went to see it at Park
Terrace in seventh grade, but each subsequent viewing of The
Princess Bride over the years made me realize just how
good it was. And it's just one of many. And
(10:26):
we have Sean O'Connell from CBR with us for a
second segment, so so much appreciate him hanging on here.
But Sean and I'd be remiss if we did not
talk to you about the passing of Rob Reiner this
week and a tragic story, a terrible story, and also
a day we're talking about a tragic plane crash with
Greg Biffle yesterday and the passing of Jim Hunton. So
it's a heavy week, as Beth and I've been talking
(10:47):
about here, but earlier this week and of course, the
investigation continues into the horrific stabbing there of Rob Reiner
and his wife. But his movies, I mean, when you
just and I don't care, you know where you come from,
you you cannot look at his body of work and
not find one of those movies, if not all of them,
(11:08):
that you love.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Well, it's crazy that, I mean, he doesn't get mentioned
with a lot of the greats, primarily because you know,
as his career, his directing career went on, he took
on a bunch of movies that didn't work quite as well.
But to kick off the you know, his filmography, he
went from Spinal Tap to Stand By Me, to Princess Bride,
to When Harry Met Sally, to Misery to A Few
(11:32):
Good Men to the American President, which is like an
unprecedented run. And it's like it's like so many different
genres that he just perfected. And what it was was
he he had he cared about characters.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You know, all of these things that we watch, we
watch him because we love the characters that are involved
in them.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And to me, A Few Good Men is a top
five movie of all time. Like I'll go back and
rewatch The Courtroom scene from Good Men. It probably once
every two or three months, just just to appreciate how
it's done. The performances. Tom Cruise was like twenty six
years old and he's going toe to toe with Nicholson
at his prime, you know, and it's like it's insane.
(12:14):
So yeah, it's deeply sad. And what I hope is that,
you know, this does shine a spotlight on how good
Rob Reiner was for a long crutch of time, and
how many of these beloved movies, you know, we have
because of his contributions.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
I mean, and he was also a great actor in
his own right, a great writer. One of my favorite
films of his that a lot of people didn't love,
but he also was an actor in the film, but
directed The Story of Us with Michelle Pfeiffer and Bruce Willis,
and was kind of this lovely film about the complexities
of marriage, and I think people didn't like it because
(12:49):
maybe it was a little too realistic.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
It was.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And then The Bucket List also that came out in
two thousand and seven, which was Morgan Freeman and Nicholson
again paired with him, was one of his most fine,
angeally successful ones. Just a crowd pleaser that he hit
right down the middle. You know, he had his finger
on the pulse of what people wanted when they went
to the movies and delivered on them. Matthew talking about
him as an actor as well too. There's a show
that I adore called The Bear and he had a
(13:14):
significant part in the third season two, which makes me
curious about how they're going to handle that going for like,
he was still very active in the community. So, yeah,
a tragic loss and an incredible, incredible talent.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
And you mentioned a few good Men, which is like
the who's who of a list actors of all time.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Well, and Aaron Sorkin, the Oscar winning writer and Emmy
winning writer, wrote a Few Good Men and he was
twenty six when he wrote that for as a stage play,
originally for Broadway twenty six.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
So you have that on one hand, and then you
have a movie like The Princess Bride, and you've got
Mandy Patinkin and you've got Andre the Giant and Christopher guessed,
I mean, and what's who's Princess Buttercup? Why can't I
think of it? Well Robin Rapp, Yeah, I mean, what
an eclectic cast that is, and just shows you he's
he was at home and two completely different genres. One
(14:06):
was Hollywood blockbuster and one was one of those movies
that still to this day I watch it and I
see things that I missed that I'm seeing for the
first time because there's so much humor embedded in that,
in that storyline, and that's how Christopher Guest movies tend
to go. But yeah, I wanted to make sure we
had at a moment to mention that too, because from
(14:27):
just a body of work standpoint, you have to you
have to.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Many directors get pigeonholed right like they deliver something and
then the industry immediately says, oh, give me more of that, right,
but he from him to for him to go to
from The Princess Bride to When Harry met Sally, which
many of view as like the pre eminent rom com
you know, ever, and then to do misery right after that,
like to take on a Stephen King adaptation about a
(14:53):
really gruesome situation where a fan you know, kidnapped, kidnaps
an author that she loves, and and to get you know,
Oscar nominated performances out of that cast. It's just the
versatility needs to be celebrated, you know, and I don't
think it gets I don't think it gets discussed enough
when it.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Comes to Ropert I think Stephen King. I think I
read it this week that Stephen King said that was
his favorite adaptation or the best done adaptation of one
of his books.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yes, said he hugged Rob Reiner after he screened it,
gave him a big hug.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
But in that he was talking about stand by Me.
And then you talk about misery. I mean, it's like,
what a what a resume? So anyway, and let's.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Come full Circuleait one second, let's come full circle. The
guy who is the new Rob Reiner when it comes
to Stephen King adaptations is a man named Mike Flanagan,
who directed a film called the Life of Chuck, which
is based on a Stephen King's story, and Flanagan has
done a couple of other Stephen King adaptations. So people
get on board with Mike Flanagan right now because everything
(15:50):
that he's done is phenomenal, and he has amazing shows
on Netflix and he's delivered a number of incredible films
that are Stephen King adaptations. He's going to be working
on on a Carrey adaptation next, and he's eventually going
to do the Dark Tower. He's a true genius and
people need to start celebrating him as well.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I love that we started almost half an hour ago
with Life of Chuck and we're ending with Life of Chuck.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
That would be absolutely positively and in all other ways inconceivable. Sean.
It's good to talk to you, my friend. Happy New Year,
Merry Christmas, and we'll talk to you in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Always a pleasure, guys, thanks so much for the time.
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