November 26, 2025 • 11 mins
Bo and Beth welcome the Deputy Editor at CBR to get his thoughts on the newest Wicked For Good as well as the release of the final season of Stranger Things.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How do you do, fellow kids?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
How good morning? How are you doing all right? Sir?
Good morning from News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine
three w BT.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Gosh, that's not a good thing. Have you thought about moving?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
This is Good Morning Beat with Bo Thompson and Beth Troutman.
I found you to my horseshoes. I gave my horseshuit.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm off to see the wizard.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Bring me the room of the wickeded Wick of the West.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Also, they're coming for you.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
This is between a wizard and I run peg get
tickets now, but.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
A wicketing to make me dream of you?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Who's talk eleven to ten WBT. Know this song is
not on the soundtrack. It's kind of a mashup.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
It's brilliant, brilliant producing.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Man Wicked for good in theaters now a hit over
the weekend. And Sean O'Connell from CBR joins us right now,
Deputy editor. Happy almost thanksgiving to.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You the way you didn't know that Chris Isaac has
a cameo in Wicked, Well you're right.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I haven't seen the movie and you have, so.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Spoiler for anybody, I'll let them discover.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Well, look, I actually saw you on WC and C
a few days ago talking about Wicked for good. You
saw it this weekend. Look for anybody who says that
big franchise movies can't bring people to the movie theaters
anymore post pandemic, Boy did they ever this past weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah. And the thing is, we need more of these,
like the Hollywood studio have pulled back significantly, unless it's
some type of ip you know that that drives people
to the theaters. But when I went to the theaters
this weekend, I went on Saturday afternoon to go see Wicked,
and I was just so empowered by seeing people dressing up,
(02:17):
you know, and coming to the theater dressed like witches,
moms bringing daughters you know who were dressed like Alphaba
and Glinda, and and they turned it into an event
and it was awesome. Like I miss those days of
people going to the theaters to go see some of
the big things that are out there. And it's not
because of a lack of effort or trying, but on
the audience's part, it's because there's been nothing to see.
(02:39):
Like if you guys asked me what else to go
see in theaters, I would struggle because the better stuff
is on streaming, and that's been a choice by the industry.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
So what did you overall think of this second part
of Wicked? And had you seen the stage musical, Yeah,
so I have seen.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
The stage musical Bess, And so for anybody who has
seen the show, they know that Act two just is
not as strong as Act one. Act one has all
the bangers, it has popular it has define gravity, and
there's a beautiful song in Act two called for Good,
which you know when the girls get a chance to
sing it, it's beautiful. But this second story is more subdued.
(03:19):
It's more serious. It ties in some of the elements
of The Wizard of Oz, but it's a bit more somber.
And so while nothing drops, I'm not saying like the
production values are still incredible. The costumes are great. The
two performers are amazing in it. Because they shot these
movies back to back, so you're essentially just getting a
continuation of the first movie. It's just that the material
(03:41):
is not quite as strong as the first movie. And
so you know, I think it's a great continuation of
the of the first film, and I'm glad that they
both exist. I was thinking about this like, could they
have done this as one movie? I don't think so.
I think that there's still enough there that you had
to turn it into two films. But by nature of
(04:03):
the design of the show, Act two is always going
to be a little bit more of a letdown than
Act one, and so you know, I left both of
them thinking that the first one is much better than
the second.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, you know, there's a variety story out this week
that the headline is the Wicked sequels are being figured
out at Universal Pictures. Things are underway to see how
they can can continue in this universe. And obviously these
two movies they flow right into one of the most
famous movies and stories of all time, The Wizard of Oz.
(04:33):
And I was thinking about it's obviously a huge cash
cow franchise and people love it. So what do they
do next? Do they remake The Wizard of Oz with
now the characters that you know from these previous two movies,
or do they do some sort of alternate universe or maybe,
as Beth was saying to me off the air, do
they do like, do they make the Wizard of Oz
(04:54):
from the different perspective? What's the next step here? Because
you know, we know how Hollywood works. This made a
ton of money going to do something else?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, this this stinks of the Fantastic Beasts and where
to find them franchise, Like, how do we get more
Harry Potter money out of it? Well, you don't. You
go find the next original thing that people are going
to like, Like it's rare that that you're able to squeeze,
you know, something successful that's a spin off or you know,
(05:22):
for every Frasier, you know, which is a great spinoff
of Cheers, you have umpty and examples of Oh they
liked this, so let's give them, you know, Hobbs and
Shaw that's spun off with the Fast and Verio franchise,
which isn't a good franchise to begin with. So I
think they need to stop, you know, pump their brakes
on that idea, because that's that's silly. Go find something
(05:44):
else that could be the next Wicked because there's you know,
plenty of original ideas out there. We don't need to
we don't need to try to ring the sponge a
little bit more to get something that people might show
up to because it has like from the world of
Wicked attached to it.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Well, speaking of franchises, the President of the United States
may have reignited a franchise with the Rush Hour. Rush
Hour four possibility now Warner Brothers apparently rushing into development
because the President said that they should bring that movie
franchise back. The Chris Tucker Jackie Chan franchise. The last
(06:19):
I think rush Hour three was released in two thousand
and seven, so almost twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Man, of all the things he could have asked for,
I I kind of.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Wish he had asked for, you know, like a sequel
to Better.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Off Dead right, or anything like Leave a Weapon five,
you know, like the amazing Spider Man three with Andrew
Garfield would have been incredible. I don't understand the Rush Hour.
That's a little strange. I think Jackie Chan's very old
now at this point. I saw the Karate Kid movie
that they just released recently. I'm not quite sure how
much action Jackie Chan is going to be doing. But yeah,
(06:55):
that's a strange story that the President can come up
with a sequel idea that he would like and that
the studio would actually say, yeah, we should do that
and move ahead with it. But I don't know, We'll see.
There's a bunch of things that have been announced over
the years that kind of die on the vine, and
this feels like one of those ones that's going to
do that. Brett Ratner, the director of that franchise, he's
(07:16):
not a really good dude.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah, he's had a lot of troubled headlines.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, and so yeah, I don't think we're going back
to that franchise. Let me put some money down on
the fact that that movie will probably never happen, but
I think it made a few headlines and then it's
gonna it's gonna disappear.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
President Trump pardons Chris Tucker's career. Now you mentioned you
mentioned streaming, and people are headed towards streaming. We're really
starting to lose.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It, being stuck in here, no end in sight. Maybe
tonight is our break. You find back then we end
this once and for all together.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So tonight, Stranger Things begin season five, the final season
on Netflix. If you're wondering why is it not on
Netflix yet, it's the twenty six It debuts at eight
pm tonight, So here. What they're going to do is
just so you get your bearings here. First four episodes
of season five are tonight. Then the next three episodes
(08:24):
release on Christmas Day at eight pm, and then the
final releases the finale, I should say on New Year's
Eve at eight pm. This is you know, what started
as is kind of a cool novelty trip back to
the eighties now as a huge, major budget. I mean,
this is basically the franchise on Netflix and it closes
(08:44):
out starting tonight. Sean O'Connell.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I'll be tuned in. And the thing is every
episode is essentially like a movie, right, They're all close
to ninety minutes or two hours from what I understand,
So brace yourself, you know, settle in, see where it goes.
I hope they have a last time on Stranger Things
because I could really use a recap. I'm not one
hundred percent sure everything that happened the last time, but
(09:10):
I'll see it through. I'll see where it goes. I'm
excited for it. And this is the new Netflix strategy
of how they break things up. They did this with
Copra Kai also, where they take a full season, break
it up into three chunks, and then stretch it out
as long as they can. But I don't know, I
haven't seen anything about it. They've been pretty secretive about
where it's going, and so we'll all get to watch together.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know, I feel I feel bad for the little
town in Georgia where this was shot because it has
become a huge tourist destination and after Stranger Things goes away,
because this is the final chapter, then you know that
I wonder if the tourism will stay hoppin there in
the fake Hawkins, I guess I don't know what state
they're in in the maybe better Indiana is Indiana? I
(09:51):
do it was Hawkins.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah. It just cracks me up that, like this has
taken so long to tell this story, that Millie Bobby Brown,
who obviously is a in the movie, in the show,
now is married with children like her and John bon
Jovi's kid got married and they've adopted.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Their own jobs and the hell kids.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So now she's a mom, and we got to go
back and hop into the show and believe that she's
still this teenager trying to fight off fight off some
evil supernatural.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Gilman, if you put her next to Elizabeth Perkins in
Big they are identical twins. Have you ever put them
side by side?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I never even thought about that, but now that I
picked Billie.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Bobby Brown and Elizabeth Perkins are like, it's the same person,
just thirty years difference.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Does that mean that we should start calling her ten? Anyway?
One last thing before I let you go. Zootopia two
also opens today. Speaking of things that it's been like
a million years since the first one.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I didn't get a chance to see this one yet.
They didn't screen it for us ship, but I'm definitely
gonna go out of my way to see it because
I love the first one, and the reviews on this
one are really strong, and I thought the first one
was really super original and funny, and I love Jason
Bateman who voices the main character. So yeah, I think
for families, if you want to give this one a shot.
It's out there now, and based on what I've read
(11:08):
about it, I can recommend it.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well, look, happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Always
good to talk to you, and we'll talk to you
between now and the end of the year because we've
got some other big ones coming up. But thanks for
all that you do.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Thank you guys, be well, We're so thankful for you.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Sean, thank you, Beth. I appreciate it.
How do you do, fellow kids?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
How good morning? How are you doing all right? Sir?
Good morning from News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine
three w BT.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Gosh, that's not a good thing. Have you thought about moving?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
This is Good Morning Beat with Bo Thompson and Beth Troutman.
I found you to my horseshoes. I gave my horseshuit.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm off to see the wizard.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Bring me the room of the wickeded Wick of the West.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Also, they're coming for you.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
This is between a wizard and I run peg get
tickets now, but.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
A wicketing to make me dream of you?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Who's talk eleven to ten WBT. Know this song is
not on the soundtrack. It's kind of a mashup.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
It's brilliant, brilliant producing.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Man Wicked for good in theaters now a hit over
the weekend. And Sean O'Connell from CBR joins us right now,
Deputy editor. Happy almost thanksgiving to.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You the way you didn't know that Chris Isaac has
a cameo in Wicked, Well you're right.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I haven't seen the movie and you have, so.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Spoiler for anybody, I'll let them discover.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Well, look, I actually saw you on WC and C
a few days ago talking about Wicked for good. You
saw it this weekend. Look for anybody who says that
big franchise movies can't bring people to the movie theaters
anymore post pandemic, Boy did they ever this past weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah. And the thing is, we need more of these,
like the Hollywood studio have pulled back significantly, unless it's
some type of ip you know that that drives people
to the theaters. But when I went to the theaters
this weekend, I went on Saturday afternoon to go see Wicked,
and I was just so empowered by seeing people dressing up,
(02:17):
you know, and coming to the theater dressed like witches,
moms bringing daughters you know who were dressed like Alphaba
and Glinda, and and they turned it into an event
and it was awesome. Like I miss those days of
people going to the theaters to go see some of
the big things that are out there. And it's not
because of a lack of effort or trying, but on
the audience's part, it's because there's been nothing to see.
(02:39):
Like if you guys asked me what else to go
see in theaters, I would struggle because the better stuff
is on streaming, and that's been a choice by the industry.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
So what did you overall think of this second part
of Wicked? And had you seen the stage musical, Yeah,
so I have seen.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
The stage musical Bess, And so for anybody who has
seen the show, they know that Act two just is
not as strong as Act one. Act one has all
the bangers, it has popular it has define gravity, and
there's a beautiful song in Act two called for Good,
which you know when the girls get a chance to
sing it, it's beautiful. But this second story is more subdued.
(03:19):
It's more serious. It ties in some of the elements
of The Wizard of Oz, but it's a bit more somber.
And so while nothing drops, I'm not saying like the
production values are still incredible. The costumes are great. The
two performers are amazing in it. Because they shot these
movies back to back, so you're essentially just getting a
continuation of the first movie. It's just that the material
(03:41):
is not quite as strong as the first movie. And
so you know, I think it's a great continuation of
the of the first film, and I'm glad that they
both exist. I was thinking about this like, could they
have done this as one movie? I don't think so.
I think that there's still enough there that you had
to turn it into two films. But by nature of
(04:03):
the design of the show, Act two is always going
to be a little bit more of a letdown than
Act one, and so you know, I left both of
them thinking that the first one is much better than
the second.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, you know, there's a variety story out this week
that the headline is the Wicked sequels are being figured
out at Universal Pictures. Things are underway to see how
they can can continue in this universe. And obviously these
two movies they flow right into one of the most
famous movies and stories of all time, The Wizard of Oz.
(04:33):
And I was thinking about it's obviously a huge cash
cow franchise and people love it. So what do they
do next? Do they remake The Wizard of Oz with
now the characters that you know from these previous two movies,
or do they do some sort of alternate universe or maybe,
as Beth was saying to me off the air, do
they do like, do they make the Wizard of Oz
(04:54):
from the different perspective? What's the next step here? Because
you know, we know how Hollywood works. This made a
ton of money going to do something else?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, this this stinks of the Fantastic Beasts and where
to find them franchise, Like, how do we get more
Harry Potter money out of it? Well, you don't. You
go find the next original thing that people are going
to like, Like it's rare that that you're able to squeeze,
you know, something successful that's a spin off or you know,
(05:22):
for every Frasier, you know, which is a great spinoff
of Cheers, you have umpty and examples of Oh they
liked this, so let's give them, you know, Hobbs and
Shaw that's spun off with the Fast and Verio franchise,
which isn't a good franchise to begin with. So I
think they need to stop, you know, pump their brakes
on that idea, because that's that's silly. Go find something
(05:44):
else that could be the next Wicked because there's you know,
plenty of original ideas out there. We don't need to
we don't need to try to ring the sponge a
little bit more to get something that people might show
up to because it has like from the world of
Wicked attached to it.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Well, speaking of franchises, the President of the United States
may have reignited a franchise with the Rush Hour. Rush
Hour four possibility now Warner Brothers apparently rushing into development
because the President said that they should bring that movie
franchise back. The Chris Tucker Jackie Chan franchise. The last
(06:19):
I think rush Hour three was released in two thousand
and seven, so almost twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Man, of all the things he could have asked for,
I I kind of.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Wish he had asked for, you know, like a sequel
to Better.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Off Dead right, or anything like Leave a Weapon five,
you know, like the amazing Spider Man three with Andrew
Garfield would have been incredible. I don't understand the Rush Hour.
That's a little strange. I think Jackie Chan's very old
now at this point. I saw the Karate Kid movie
that they just released recently. I'm not quite sure how
much action Jackie Chan is going to be doing. But yeah,
(06:55):
that's a strange story that the President can come up
with a sequel idea that he would like and that
the studio would actually say, yeah, we should do that
and move ahead with it. But I don't know, We'll see.
There's a bunch of things that have been announced over
the years that kind of die on the vine, and
this feels like one of those ones that's going to
do that. Brett Ratner, the director of that franchise, he's
(07:16):
not a really good dude.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah, he's had a lot of troubled headlines.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, and so yeah, I don't think we're going back
to that franchise. Let me put some money down on
the fact that that movie will probably never happen, but
I think it made a few headlines and then it's
gonna it's gonna disappear.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
President Trump pardons Chris Tucker's career. Now you mentioned you
mentioned streaming, and people are headed towards streaming. We're really
starting to lose.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It, being stuck in here, no end in sight. Maybe
tonight is our break. You find back then we end
this once and for all together.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So tonight, Stranger Things begin season five, the final season
on Netflix. If you're wondering why is it not on
Netflix yet, it's the twenty six It debuts at eight
pm tonight, So here. What they're going to do is
just so you get your bearings here. First four episodes
of season five are tonight. Then the next three episodes
(08:24):
release on Christmas Day at eight pm, and then the
final releases the finale, I should say on New Year's
Eve at eight pm. This is you know, what started
as is kind of a cool novelty trip back to
the eighties now as a huge, major budget. I mean,
this is basically the franchise on Netflix and it closes
(08:44):
out starting tonight. Sean O'Connell.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I'll be tuned in. And the thing is every
episode is essentially like a movie, right, They're all close
to ninety minutes or two hours from what I understand,
So brace yourself, you know, settle in, see where it goes.
I hope they have a last time on Stranger Things
because I could really use a recap. I'm not one
hundred percent sure everything that happened the last time, but
(09:10):
I'll see it through. I'll see where it goes. I'm
excited for it. And this is the new Netflix strategy
of how they break things up. They did this with
Copra Kai also, where they take a full season, break
it up into three chunks, and then stretch it out
as long as they can. But I don't know, I
haven't seen anything about it. They've been pretty secretive about
where it's going, and so we'll all get to watch together.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know, I feel I feel bad for the little
town in Georgia where this was shot because it has
become a huge tourist destination and after Stranger Things goes away,
because this is the final chapter, then you know that
I wonder if the tourism will stay hoppin there in
the fake Hawkins, I guess I don't know what state
they're in in the maybe better Indiana is Indiana? I
(09:51):
do it was Hawkins.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah. It just cracks me up that, like this has
taken so long to tell this story, that Millie Bobby Brown,
who obviously is a in the movie, in the show,
now is married with children like her and John bon
Jovi's kid got married and they've adopted.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Their own jobs and the hell kids.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So now she's a mom, and we got to go
back and hop into the show and believe that she's
still this teenager trying to fight off fight off some
evil supernatural.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Gilman, if you put her next to Elizabeth Perkins in
Big they are identical twins. Have you ever put them
side by side?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I never even thought about that, but now that I
picked Billie.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Bobby Brown and Elizabeth Perkins are like, it's the same person,
just thirty years difference.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Does that mean that we should start calling her ten? Anyway?
One last thing before I let you go. Zootopia two
also opens today. Speaking of things that it's been like
a million years since the first one.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I didn't get a chance to see this one yet.
They didn't screen it for us ship, but I'm definitely
gonna go out of my way to see it because
I love the first one, and the reviews on this
one are really strong, and I thought the first one
was really super original and funny, and I love Jason
Bateman who voices the main character. So yeah, I think
for families, if you want to give this one a shot.
It's out there now, and based on what I've read
(11:08):
about it, I can recommend it.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well, look, happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Always
good to talk to you, and we'll talk to you
between now and the end of the year because we've
got some other big ones coming up. But thanks for
all that you do.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Thank you guys, be well, We're so thankful for you.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Sean, thank you, Beth. I appreciate it.
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