October 15, 2025 • 9 mins
Cyber Security Expert Theresa Payton joins Bo and Beth from Melbourne, Australia to talk about the potential of shopping at Walmart...with Chat GPT as well as how to protect your personal information from A.I.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is good morning, beauty. You got a light buddy, Yeah,
sure kid, there you go.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And jo Wally.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Nick give him your bonet.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
What poor he's got a knife. That's not a knife,
that's a knife. I had to do it. I had
to do it. I mean, after all, when you're fifteen
hours ahead of where we are right now on the
(00:36):
other side of the world. Teresa Payton is on the
WBT Hotline from Australia from Melbourne, Australia, home of the
Australian Open come January. Just in case you're a tennis fan,
Teresa Paton, Yeah, right right, what all has happened fifteen
(00:59):
hours into our our life?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I can't tell you because then I would like ruin
the timeline.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, you'd spoil it for us.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
So what are you doing in Melbourne this week? That
is quite a that's quite a ways to travel in
the name of cybersecurity.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, what am I doing here? No, it's an incredible
group here. They have this incredible community of people that
get together from all over Australia but other places as
well to talk about cybersecurity, risk fraud and so we
just had a really great conversation today about AI and
where things are headed, both on the good side and
(01:35):
on the negative side. And it's just been incredible conversations.
Really smart people and you know what, their problems are
the same as our problems.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Just with a different accent.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Right, Yeah, they sound they sound so much smarter when
they say it.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I goes Now, this is an interesting story because I know,
being where you are in the world, this has been
quite the talk in Australia. The phone numbers of the
Australian Prime Minister and Donald Trump Junior are among several
private numbers that have been made public on a website
that is accessible to the masses in some form. Here,
(02:15):
what's going on with this one? Because you just happen
to be in the middle of a firestorm of coverage there.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Oh I know, and yeah, so I had started media
here in Australia last night and they're like, what do
you know about this? I'm like, give me five minutes.
But interestingly enough, it's actually this database was pulled together
allegedly by an Australian who's living in the United States,
and it's supposed to be a subscription service. You can
(02:42):
do like five free searches and then you can pay
money to do more than that, and they claim that
they really just did screen scraping of different places on
the internet. But people are saying these are actually the
real personal numbers of elected officials that wouldn't be on
LinkedIn and they wouldn't be on other places. So a
(03:03):
lot of questions to be asked and answered at this point,
very concerning. Now. One thing one of the reporters said
is they got an early read on the list and
they called a couple of the numbers and some were disconnected,
some were not legit, but some actually were. Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Now, if you are down there with having conversations as
you often are these days in places all over the world,
talking about ai AI is another story here. Soon you
will be able to shop at Walmart in chat GPT.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, so you know, it's interesting. So I asked CHATCHBT
about this, and so first it happened to know where
I was, which was a little disconcerting, and it said
you can't reliably buy things from Walmart right now through
me in Australia. And so I was like, okay, well
how about in America And it says, well, yes, it's
(03:59):
going to be available in America. I'm like, well, how
about Charlotte, North Carolina, and it said, well, it's not
available yet, but it will be soon. Would you like
me to check when it's going to be available? So
I guess it's still a coming soon feature. I'm a
little it'll be interesting to see how Walmart rolls this out.
So will you be online ordering and all of a
sudden you get presented with would you like to do
(04:19):
this in chat chept or you're going to be in
chat chept and it's going to say you sort of
seem like you need to buy something from Walmart? Would
you like to buy something? So I don't know how
that user experience is going to work, and it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Feels like it might be a privacy issue as well,
that suddenly chat gpt has your shopping habits or it
feels very minority report to me, is that all it does.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
No, you're not off at all. I mean even when
chat gpt said well it's not available in Australia, I'm like, well,
I didn't tell you I was here. So it's kind
of weird.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It feels very pop up ad on the internet type thing,
you know, like a like you're using chat gpt and
you know we'll give the answer after this.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Ad, Well, that may happen.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Now, I was perusing your feed last night on X
it's at tracker paytent on X and we always say that,
or a lot of times we say that these conversations
we have on WBT extend online if you interact with
Teresa there. Now I was looking last night and you
were listing. We're talking about AI and chat GPT ways
(05:24):
that AI powers your digital security. So often we hear
about negative stories as it relates to AI, but you
can manipulate it to your advantage and protect your identity
out there with a few steps that you posted yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah. No, so I'm posting a step every couple of
days of things that people can think about doing. So
for example, if anybody's listened to us for any period
of time, they know I love the Brave browser. Well,
Brave now has AI integrated into it. So now you
have both a privacy browser and if you decide to
use AI and use it within Brave, it keeps your conversations,
(06:01):
the things that you ask, the answers it gives you,
it keeps it private. So that's one. Another one is
you can actually use it. And I talked about this
on Fox News. First, you can actually use it to
say is this a scam? So if you get approached
a text message, something online and email, you can actually
(06:22):
put it into chat, shept or your favorite gen AI
and ask it is this a scam? And it'll look
for the red flag and say, yeah, it actually might be.
So there's so many amazing things that we can actually
use AI for to make it safer, more secure, and
spot scams faster.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So see, I love it when there's a that makes
me feel a little more positive about AI rather than
just scared of AI. There was one more story that
caught my attention, and this is just maybe more of
a of a concept right now, but the Washington Post
had an article about how online content now is having
such an impact on young boys, about what the quote
(07:02):
unquote concept of a man is and that online like
this whole I guess they call it a manisphere is
having more of an impact on what boys think about
manhood than maybe parents.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Are h very interesting and I guess it depends on
where they're hanging out online and what they're seeing. Right, So,
is it I'm gaming, I'm on discord, is it TikTok?
Is it Reddit? You know? Where are the different places
that they're getting information from? But you know, it's it
is one of those things where it's so tough that
(07:35):
I'm so glad you brought this up because a lot
of parents say to me, how do I keep up?
And I always say, like, the best way to keep
out this that is the dinner table and ask hey,
what's something kind of cool and interesting you saw today?
And when they share it with you say well, where
did you see that? So that you can sort of
get a feel for where are your kids or your
(07:56):
young adults, Where are they hanging out online? Where are
they getting their information him from? So that maybe you
can go there too, so that you can sort of
see what they're saying and have a conversation about it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Teresa Payton from the Future.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I know, I feel like if she she sounds really happy,
so I feel like it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
A gest She sounds like she's next door and she's
in Australia. She's in Australia in Melbourne. That's just do
you want to marvel about modern technology all this AI
and chat GPT, just listen to our phone connection right now?
So where are you off to between now and when?
It's back home.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yes, Austin, Texas is next.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Naturally, of course it's next. Right, that's that's a that's
a that's a transcontinental flight right there. Well, safe travels.
I know there's this follow up on on the topic
we were talking about with the Australian PM's phone number
in Donald Trump Junior. You were on CNN talking about
that in recent hours and right now you're you're down
under in Australia. So safe travels and thank you for
(08:55):
always calling us no matter where you are.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well Beth and Bow, it's always great to be with you.
I would've never missed this, so thanks for being flexible
with me again, and be safe out there.
This is good morning, beauty. You got a light buddy, Yeah,
sure kid, there you go.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And jo Wally.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Nick give him your bonet.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
What poor he's got a knife. That's not a knife,
that's a knife. I had to do it. I had
to do it. I mean, after all, when you're fifteen
hours ahead of where we are right now on the
(00:36):
other side of the world. Teresa Payton is on the
WBT Hotline from Australia from Melbourne, Australia, home of the
Australian Open come January. Just in case you're a tennis fan,
Teresa Paton, Yeah, right right, what all has happened fifteen
(00:59):
hours into our our life?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I can't tell you because then I would like ruin
the timeline.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, you'd spoil it for us.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
So what are you doing in Melbourne this week? That
is quite a that's quite a ways to travel in
the name of cybersecurity.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, what am I doing here? No, it's an incredible
group here. They have this incredible community of people that
get together from all over Australia but other places as
well to talk about cybersecurity, risk fraud and so we
just had a really great conversation today about AI and
where things are headed, both on the good side and
(01:35):
on the negative side. And it's just been incredible conversations.
Really smart people and you know what, their problems are
the same as our problems.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Just with a different accent.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Right, Yeah, they sound they sound so much smarter when
they say it.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I goes Now, this is an interesting story because I know,
being where you are in the world, this has been
quite the talk in Australia. The phone numbers of the
Australian Prime Minister and Donald Trump Junior are among several
private numbers that have been made public on a website
that is accessible to the masses in some form. Here,
(02:15):
what's going on with this one? Because you just happen
to be in the middle of a firestorm of coverage there.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Oh I know, and yeah, so I had started media
here in Australia last night and they're like, what do
you know about this? I'm like, give me five minutes.
But interestingly enough, it's actually this database was pulled together
allegedly by an Australian who's living in the United States,
and it's supposed to be a subscription service. You can
(02:42):
do like five free searches and then you can pay
money to do more than that, and they claim that
they really just did screen scraping of different places on
the internet. But people are saying these are actually the
real personal numbers of elected officials that wouldn't be on
LinkedIn and they wouldn't be on other places. So a
(03:03):
lot of questions to be asked and answered at this point,
very concerning. Now. One thing one of the reporters said
is they got an early read on the list and
they called a couple of the numbers and some were disconnected,
some were not legit, but some actually were. Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Now, if you are down there with having conversations as
you often are these days in places all over the world,
talking about ai AI is another story here. Soon you
will be able to shop at Walmart in chat GPT.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, so you know, it's interesting. So I asked CHATCHBT
about this, and so first it happened to know where
I was, which was a little disconcerting, and it said
you can't reliably buy things from Walmart right now through
me in Australia. And so I was like, okay, well
how about in America And it says, well, yes, it's
(03:59):
going to be available in America. I'm like, well, how
about Charlotte, North Carolina, and it said, well, it's not
available yet, but it will be soon. Would you like
me to check when it's going to be available? So
I guess it's still a coming soon feature. I'm a
little it'll be interesting to see how Walmart rolls this out.
So will you be online ordering and all of a
sudden you get presented with would you like to do
(04:19):
this in chat chept or you're going to be in
chat chept and it's going to say you sort of
seem like you need to buy something from Walmart? Would
you like to buy something? So I don't know how
that user experience is going to work, and it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Feels like it might be a privacy issue as well,
that suddenly chat gpt has your shopping habits or it
feels very minority report to me, is that all it does.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
No, you're not off at all. I mean even when
chat gpt said well it's not available in Australia, I'm like, well,
I didn't tell you I was here. So it's kind
of weird.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It feels very pop up ad on the internet type thing,
you know, like a like you're using chat gpt and
you know we'll give the answer after this.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Ad, Well, that may happen.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Now, I was perusing your feed last night on X
it's at tracker paytent on X and we always say that,
or a lot of times we say that these conversations
we have on WBT extend online if you interact with
Teresa there. Now I was looking last night and you
were listing. We're talking about AI and chat GPT ways
(05:24):
that AI powers your digital security. So often we hear
about negative stories as it relates to AI, but you
can manipulate it to your advantage and protect your identity
out there with a few steps that you posted yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah. No, so I'm posting a step every couple of
days of things that people can think about doing. So
for example, if anybody's listened to us for any period
of time, they know I love the Brave browser. Well,
Brave now has AI integrated into it. So now you
have both a privacy browser and if you decide to
use AI and use it within Brave, it keeps your conversations,
(06:01):
the things that you ask, the answers it gives you,
it keeps it private. So that's one. Another one is
you can actually use it. And I talked about this
on Fox News. First, you can actually use it to
say is this a scam? So if you get approached
a text message, something online and email, you can actually
(06:22):
put it into chat, shept or your favorite gen AI
and ask it is this a scam? And it'll look
for the red flag and say, yeah, it actually might be.
So there's so many amazing things that we can actually
use AI for to make it safer, more secure, and
spot scams faster.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So see, I love it when there's a that makes
me feel a little more positive about AI rather than
just scared of AI. There was one more story that
caught my attention, and this is just maybe more of
a of a concept right now, but the Washington Post
had an article about how online content now is having
such an impact on young boys, about what the quote
(07:02):
unquote concept of a man is and that online like
this whole I guess they call it a manisphere is
having more of an impact on what boys think about
manhood than maybe parents.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Are h very interesting and I guess it depends on
where they're hanging out online and what they're seeing. Right, So,
is it I'm gaming, I'm on discord, is it TikTok?
Is it Reddit? You know? Where are the different places
that they're getting information from? But you know, it's it
is one of those things where it's so tough that
(07:35):
I'm so glad you brought this up because a lot
of parents say to me, how do I keep up?
And I always say, like, the best way to keep
out this that is the dinner table and ask hey,
what's something kind of cool and interesting you saw today?
And when they share it with you say well, where
did you see that? So that you can sort of
get a feel for where are your kids or your
(07:56):
young adults, Where are they hanging out online? Where are
they getting their information him from? So that maybe you
can go there too, so that you can sort of
see what they're saying and have a conversation about it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Teresa Payton from the Future.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I know, I feel like if she she sounds really happy,
so I feel like it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
A gest She sounds like she's next door and she's
in Australia. She's in Australia in Melbourne. That's just do
you want to marvel about modern technology all this AI
and chat GPT, just listen to our phone connection right now?
So where are you off to between now and when?
It's back home.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yes, Austin, Texas is next.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Naturally, of course it's next. Right, that's that's a that's
a that's a transcontinental flight right there. Well, safe travels.
I know there's this follow up on on the topic
we were talking about with the Australian PM's phone number
in Donald Trump Junior. You were on CNN talking about
that in recent hours and right now you're you're down
under in Australia. So safe travels and thank you for
(08:55):
always calling us no matter where you are.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well Beth and Bow, it's always great to be with you.
I would've never missed this, so thanks for being flexible
with me again, and be safe out there.
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