August 6, 2025 • 33 mins
Welcome back to Hear Me Out and especially to my sister Riley! In this episode, we're sifting through all of your Am I The Asshole? submissions and closing the case on who is an asshole and who's not.. and if you enjoyed this, stay tuned for part 2 next week! Can't wait to chat then xxx
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It just looks like golum. Oh you went war.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
My sister's tap tap tap and yeah, but makes.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Me want to kill you.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You had it for a while there, and I was
I had my shit together. You know, I got a
job when I was eighteen. I w was, so did I.
I went to the course two years. I'm just having anyway.
All right, Hello, guys, welcome back to hear me out.
We have our hopefully, and I hate giving her a
compliment a regular.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Guest and giving the people they won't Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No, you guys did love our episode. I loved recording
it personally.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I think it's a funny dynamic that you just don't
really get anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So, in case you don't know, my sister Riley is back.
I have some interesting questions that the viewers want to hear. Oh,
you have recently hard launched a new relationship. What can
you tell us about it? I can't tell everything because
she wants to keep the views to us. We will
want to share our story story at the same time
together a story there is It's a cool story, is it?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Well? I was straight and now I'm not. I guess
it's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Briley is dating a female I'm dating a girly pop
and I love it and I love her and it's amazing.
She has made me feel like boys will never be
adequate anymore. Yeah, that Briley was like, I could never
go back to a guy like the way that I'm
understood like, and as she's saying these things, I'm like, fuck,
I have to have one of those. Yeah, I know,
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I feel I actually feel grateful every day that I
have this ability in me to be with a woman,
or to be with Tessa more specifically, because if I
didn't have this in me, I would never be fucking
happy ever again, because men just do not cut it.
Like this is just so much more fulfilling and it's
amazing and I'm so happy. Well, I can't wait to
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never get that. Who knows, No, I totally believe that
the right guy there will fulfill everything I need to.
But yeah, it's definitely there's a level I feel like
that girls will understand you and get you and see
you that I feel like, you really have to have
the right guy to get that kind of level.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, you would. It would take like a serious thing.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But to be fair, I also think that Tessa's just
like that she's just it's not just because she's a girl, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Like she's special. Yeah, there are some shitty fucking girls
going around to the Certainly we are not two of those.
We are really really nice green.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
But I think we start with hear me outs. Just
get right into it this week, what's yours? Oh, now
that I'm thinking about it, I could get killed for this.
Who We're fine? This is like hear me Out. I
feel like it's a pretty own. No, I don't know
anyone has control over this person. I think Beyonce is
the leader of the illuminati. Okay, I actually I don't
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like Beyonce even a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh wait, hang on?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Also, yeah, her music is terrible. Is she still famous?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I think because she's in the illumina like Halo and
like single Lady Like I don't particularly like that lady
era ever been in my playlist. But that video of
her singing Halo in like a town, like a in
a town, Okay, she was like surrounded by people, do
you know what I'm talking? Yes, Okay, she was singing
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to like kids or a charity or something I don't know,
And that is like an incredible video And that made
me go like, okay, like you can sing, yeah, but okay,
Beyonce has pips. But no, this is not what I
mean the old Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
She's too much power.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
She was great, but I haven't heard a single one
of her songs lately and she's still winning like Song
of the Year.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I'm like, no, that pissed me up.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And like there's actually a friend of mine that argues
with me on this, and I don't quite remember who
it is, but Beyonce one country album, Country Music Artist
of the Year, And I was like, that is so
unfair to all the country music singers who actually that
is their genre, and she just pops into country for
a year and ends up like thriving in it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, oh my god is calling me. Oh it's because
she she's the leader of the Illuminati.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah. But I also some of the argument that the
friend gave me that I don't quite remember is that
she apparently has been studying country music for like ten
years or whatever, I wrong, whatever, whatever, studying country music
for ten years or something, and like that this is
her album.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I still don't care.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You're a pop singer and you've come in and like
taken over the whole music awards for that sets up
and it's like everyone is a country music artist is like,
should I just pack up and fucking go home? And
did you hear how anyone who like doesn't thank her
dies or something? Well that's why there's no going around
for a while where everyone had to be like people
they posted TikTok and be like thanks because she fucking
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kills them. I do have a funny. I just don't
like her. I think there's something she has a bit
too much power. And I'm thank you Beyonce, though for you,
I'd say I wouldn't be hearing without you today. I just
think there's something something unsettling about Beyonce as a person.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, I don't know her personal.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So Jay Z one of the ugliest people I've ever
seen in my life and he cheated on her.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah yeah, not a fan of him either.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
But there's my family. There's even their daughter, Blue Ivy,
Blue Ivy.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
No, It's like, Oh, I was reading celebrities with weird
kids names, and I think the top top weird. I
actually think I read listen to this on Just for Girls.
No is Nick Cannon's kids names millionaires, Zion and Zillionaire.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And Fluffy Love or some shit. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You should, if you want a fucking laugh, search up
Nick Cannon's kids names, because they actually get progressively worse.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But my big interest is this kid.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
This guy has kids with what ten different women, and
every single one of these women agreed to naming their
kids everything when money okay, he would have paid them.
Let's call our kids zillion air. Yeah, but some of
them are worse than no, I'll.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Read the word. Let me just actually get the worst ones.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Out, Powerful Queen Cannon, Rise Messiah Cannon, Zion Mixo, Lydian Cannon,
Zillionaire Canon is really bad, too, Beautiful Zeppelin Cannon.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That's pretty bad. Yeah, this is I reckon, probably one
of the worst.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Too, Legendary Love Canon and every single one of those
women went, yeah, yeah, that's not child abuse.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Let's go ahead with ridiculous. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I think there's something to be said for people that
name the kids shit like that. But watch me name
my kid like Cameron Ashen, like the American.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I love those Americans. Yeah, speaking of Americans, I went
to Bali.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And Americans are just a different fucking breed of human.
Do you know what I mean, so I used to
find them annoying. I still do sometimes I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Not out here saying I find them annoying. I'm just
saying I used to find them annoying.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
If I heard them in like a restaurant when we're
on a holiday or something, I'd be like yeah, But
then think about how loud we are and our accents
not particular.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It's quite jam.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now I feel like, you know, you add something to
my life. You're interesting because they're so different. So that's
what I mean, I enjoy I think they're hilarious. So
it was my birthday at Finns, and like I we
ended up these American guys ended up coming avatars and
they were just nice guys, Like there wasn't We just
hung out with them for the night and the next morning.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Some of the stuff they sent us.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Is so American, like they'd be like hazy, like last
night was search a riot with.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You guys, and it's just like that is so American.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And then one the other one's sexted one of my
friends and goes like, let me know where you guys
are pre gaming today.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Oh I love them, I know, and we.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Just the whole time, we just couldn't be kept being
like did last night was such a fucking riot. It's
like Americans are just like they are different.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Am they're a movie or they're a movie.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I think they actually behave as if they're constantly being filmed.
That's what they like, that's what they do. They're like
entertainers to everyone. Like if you're learning up to get
a coffee, American in front of you, Yeah, they're being filmed.
And then we saw them at Savaara and they're like,
we just got this watermelon hookah, like it's so fucking good, dude,
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like you know the shehs oh yeah, and then he's
like no, honestly, it's like so, I'm like, you can
have it.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But I went through a big sheshi era when I
was in high school. That is an ink in itself.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I hate that you and my friends would go to
the shesha bar off Chople Street. Really yeah, like on
a fucking Thursday.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Nicotine in them or is it just water?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But we thought we were like so crazy. It was
so much fun, and we take all these photos and
they're like blowing out there. My big sister that I
aspired to be, like smoking shisha in a bar true
at the time.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, take a poll on that. I just agree, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So this week's episode is am I the Asshole and
am I the Aarshole? I think is one of my favorite.
It's obviously a submission episode. We got you guys to
send in your stories and I just love reading this.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I'm excited for this one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So we're just gonna decide basically, are you the problem? Yeah,
or whoever you're talking about, and we will tell you. Wait,
I have another hemie out go and it actually leads
into this. I thought of this the other day and
I was actually speaking a testa about this. You know,
when people, you judge people like when you first see them, like,
you judge them. I never judge someone. You won't want to.
You won't want to say that. Yeah, judging people is
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actually ingrained in our physiology. We needed to judge people
to deem whether people were going to be safe for
us or not in the past. So it actually doesn't
make you a bad person. It's actually ingrained in your
body to judge people at first glance and to try
engage as much as you can from looking at them.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't think I think too much.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I feel like everyone's just going to judge someone the
moment they meet them, like, just figure out what they're about.
I know, but I think sometimes you can be higher
on yourself for judging someone.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You're like, fuck, Like, am I bitch? What's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But I think that that's actually, to an extent normal.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's across the board, something that every human does.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, anyway, because we're about to be judging some bitches
on me, Well, we.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Have to be honest. Are there the asshole? And sometimes
he might be? So let's go number one? Am I
the asshole?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
My brother and I decided we wanted to get a
house mate to reduce our rent. My hairdresser happened to
be looking for somewhere or live. Let's call her Karen.
My brother and I thought it would be convenient. Number
one cheaper rent. Number two she colored and cut my
hair for free, and number three she was always a
fun time.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I got along with her, so why not.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Around the time Karen moved in, our current lease was
due to end, and my brother and I decided whether
to stay where we were a small townhouse or move.
Karen suggested we moved to a bigger house, as her
boyfriend was wanting to move in also without hesitation, My
brother and I moved house, catering for both Karen and
her boyfriend let's call him Tim.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Is Tim the male Karen? What do you think the
male Karen is? I don't even know where to begin
with that, Brian, Yeah, good shot.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It suited us as having Tim also reduced our rent.
As time went on, I realized that living with Karen
was the biggest mistake of my life. Okay, my friends
warned me about living with Karen. Almost anyone that I
ran into has either directly had an awful experience with
Karen or heard of an awful experience. Karen was the
type to overstep without permission, that could never read the room,
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gets into random vibes every time she SIPs alcohol. Stayed
at hairdressing salons for no longer than two months.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I actually find.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That I noticed that like at my hairdresser, like sometimes
people like come in and out and it's like hairdresses
have like beef, like they know each other from like
other salons, never maintains any long term friendships. I mentioned
that last week that I said that that's a problem
if someone can't do that and cheats on her boyfriend.
Long sounds like a riot. Sounds like a fucking.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Riot, a fucking riot. I love Karen. Long story short.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I reached chipping point after she constantly entered my room
to use my makeup clothes, undies that would send me, Yeah,
do not going like it's not a system, do not.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Touch my shit.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah yeah, it's like even a cis are using your
shit is annoying. But like if to have someone that
isn't your family coming.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
No things, no, no thank you. Even my sheets for
her bed.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Not okay, especially if you're in a relationship age family,
my friend, sheets are off limits. Like we buy our
own sheets and like they're our sheets and they are
on Riley's bed, I'd be like, what the fuck are
you doing? And we treat them like it's a temple.
It's a weekly change.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, no outside clothes in the bed. It's very very protected.
We're clean girls on the outside.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Friends of hers would sleep in my bed and try
and make it look away that I wouldn't tell that
is fucking not okay. Whenever I was away, I would
have chronic I can already tell you're not the asshole.
But I'm enjoying these story so I'm going to keep going.
Whenever I was away, I would have chronic anxiety that
she would steal something or use something of value to
me and overstep so many boundaries. It was a living hell.
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But as we know, Karen was not easily approachable. I
always kept the peace, praying for the day that the
lease ran out. And in the meantime, my brother and
I loved Tim. Oh, he was just a poor fella
getting used and abused. He finally broke up with her
and told her to move out. Oh and me and
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my brother were over the moon. But four months went
by and he started seeing her again. I pulled Tim
aside and told him everything, you would think that that's
actually quite lucky that Tim, say, got the right of
way to be like, you move out?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, pretty much had a full vent about how I
really didn't want her coming back, even though they're back together.
Tim said he tries harder to keep her away, but
he didn't want to make it obvious that I hated her.
As time went on, almost every night Karen would sneak
into the house and stay with Tim. She would eat
my food, use my toiletrees toothpaste. I even found my
toothbrush wet next to the sink after a night she
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snuck over immediate bin if I can't tell even if
I'm like, maybe someone's used my teeth brush.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Being who would have maybe used your tooth throw?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You know how like sometimes your friends like no, no,
it would be me and you. Sometimes we would get
confused at which color was which when we were sharing
a bathroom, and.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I would always just chuck it out. I wouldn't chuck
it out.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I don't care sharing toothbrushes with certain people me you.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Tessa, and so you wouldn't mind sharing a toothbrush with me?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Probably not ick, but you do you But that's very sweet, Okay.
She would even come into the kitchen on morning she
stayed over with no pants on when my parents were over,
rubbing in the.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Fact that she was back.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I absolutely there's a certain aspect of that that I'm like,
in her mind, this is probably still like somewhere she
lived in her house, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I absolutely erupted at ports him. The next time I
saw him and asked him to leave. I told him
I couldn't stand her or him, and that he was
bringing her around and wanted him to leave. He moved out,
and me and my brother have been so so happy since.
Am I the asshole for kicking Tim out purely because
his girlfriend gave me trauma?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Or is my reaction valid?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
They're now broken up because she cheated on him again
with her ex. Not surprised kind of makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I know she's not the asshole.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I think your home should be a sanctuary, and if
someone's fucking with that, then they need to leave.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah. I feel like there's so many people with roommates
that are unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, a really shitty situation in that regard, just for
money's sake, But I think if you could afford it
with your brother, No, you're not the asshole, nose and Tim.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Canfind somewhere Elsely, Tim seems like a nice guy. I'm
a big boy.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Tim can find his own And if Tim's broken up
and wanted to move back in, you know, maybe he
can be the Probably not.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I think Tim needs to stay away because you never know.
You never know.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
With Karen, you don't. She could sneak in just for
the shits, even when they're not together. Because you use
your toothbrush and steal a pair of rangel locks just
in case and buy a new sheets and buy new sheets, yeah,
completely new ones.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Throw out the mattress or tim. I hope he's doing okay,
all right, just another thank you Beyonce, just because I
feel really scared. Thank you Beyonce for sending out the submission.
Thank you Beyonce. I literally need to go home and
like sleep. I was going to make salmon salmon works.
I just want food cooks. I was going to make
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salmon kale and oh my god, kale. It just gets
worse and worse, so it's really good. It's really I
don't like kale.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Kale to me is like I was going to make
for Can you buy some broccolini and I'll make myself
some brocolini?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah? Thank you? What type of someone kariochy with what kariarchy?
And just kale?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Calum rice and kick it? Menace, ketchup, menace, whatever the fuck?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Keck up? Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Am I the asshole number two? So about a year ago,
I was in Bali, Balle. I was in Bali and
I met this guy let's call him Ben, at Finn's
Beach Club, the home of the riot.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Right did your pre game?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
He lives in New Zealand. I live in Australia. I
was plastered.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You know how it goes, I actually do.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I had a nap midway through, as in like not
at fins. I went home, napped and then went back.
Did she really I needed it? I'm a tired girlie.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
It's so fair, but like as if you had the
energy to go back.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I had no intention of doing it. And then Hannah
was like, is like Logan's waiting downstairs for you?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And I'm like, oh fuck.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I thought she'd like gone back, and so I was like, oh, respect,
back up, change my outfit had a glass of rose.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Back.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
We go to riot with the right city. I was pasted,
you know how it goes. We hit it off, spent
the night together, and I flew home the next day.
It was fun, but to me it felt like one
of those spontaneous travel moments you leave behind when you
get in the plane. Fast forward a couple of months
spend and I would message on and off, nothing deep.
Then I don't know where he starts getting super intense,
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telling me how much he missed me, how special that
night had been for him.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Meanwhile, I honestly don't remember most of it. I was
that drunk sister. I feel you. I feel like there's
not often a night that I get drunk.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I remember all of it, Like I have serious blackout tendencies.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I've always had that. Though I've blacked out.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Twice, there will always be gup. So it doesn't matter
how much or little I drink. If there's like a
little period throughout the night where I'm feeling a little
bit more drunk, that night will have no memory to me.
And then as like I sober up maybe thirty minutes
later that then my memory comes back.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's constant.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It was initially because of my anxiety, meant that I
was on and then I changed them, and I think
these ones do the same, just like in a slightly
less anyway, not important, that's a tool where I have
to unpack at a different time. I responded with something
like wow, that's nice, and kept things pretty surface level.
It felt a bit much, especially since I'd only met
him once and he lived in another country. Then one
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night Ben calls me drunk and tells me his book
to flight to come visit me.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I feel like, at this one, this girl probably just
doesn't seem like she likes him that much, But I
was like, that could be like fun, like you just
have like another fun night out in Melbourne or wherever
you live. I kind of panicked.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I didn't know how serious he were, and I started
wondering whether I'd accidentally given him the wrong idea. When
I didn't hear anything more about it, I assumed it
was just a drunk impulsive comment and didn't take it seriously.
Around that time, I met someone at work. Let's call
him Harry. He lived five minutes away, asked me out.
We had the best first day.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Everything felt easy and exciting in a real world, grounded way.
One day, one day it happened to you. One day,
I'm happy for you, girl, you're the asshole, next question.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
We kept seeing each other and pretty quickly it started
to feel like something really special. Then, about a month
after Ben's drunk call, I get a totally unexpected message
from him saying I'm super keen to.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
See you this weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
He's a bit d Lulu. Ben needed to have followed
that up. Yeah, I hadn't spoken to him in weeks.
Weeks quiplash spoken.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
To him in weeks all right, all right, suffering. I
was confused and replied with a bunch of question marks.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Oh, okay, fair enough, but no, but someone needs to
fucking address the elephant in the room and have a
real conversation here, you know, question mark B direct? Yeah,
are you coming to make this weekend?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Do you know where I am? Yeah? I was confused
and replied with a bunch of question marks.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's when he tells me I'm coming to see you
in six days and actually sends me his flight details.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Okay, there's the directness we need. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I asked if he was bringing a friend good as
in like are you coming to Melbourne, like just with mates,
or if this trip was primarily to spend the weekend
with me. He said it was all about seeing me,
and then he missed the connection we had and we
had been holding off telling me properly because he was nervous.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
If I had slept with a man in another country,
seen him once, and then flown home, I could not
imagine the audacity of just booking a flight to this
guy's country and just letting him know that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah. No, it is a little bit ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
And for him to say I didn't feel comfortable telling
you why I was coming. You're doing making a giant step.
You need to tell her that you're spending the entire
time with her. You can't just let that go by
the wayside. Needs to be addressed.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
He also admitted he assumed I was on the same page.
That's the assumption is wrong. What is it? Assumption is
the thief of joy or is that something that's comparison honey,
Oh alright, whatever?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Assumption is the thief thief joy fit assumpthing is the
thief of toy. I hate when people say sayings with
like heavy confidence and.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
They're wrong, Like I just assumpthing is the thief of thoy. Okay. Continue.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
He also admitted he assumed I was on the same page,
especially since I didn't shut him down when he told
me about it during that drunk call. In his mind,
because I'd spent that one night with him, it meant something,
and he.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Figured I'd just go along with it. I didn't know
how to respond.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I ended up telling him I didn't have anywhere for
to stay, and then I already had plans that weekend,
which I didn't. The truth is I was developing something
genuine with Harry and spending the weekend with someone I
barely knew, someone I hadn't seen in a year, would have.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Completely derailed that.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Fair enough, Ben, It was disappointed, but didn't argue, and
we haven't spoken since. Now Harry and I have been
dating for nine months and it's going incredibly well. You
happy for you, girl, But I still wonder was I
the asshole for asking Ben to cancel an international flat
just a week out. I never invited him, he never
confirmed it with me, but I also never fully shut
things down earlier.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
No, No, you're not the asshole.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You don't needs, not even a little bend anytime with
anyone you don't want to see. And it's like you
liked this guy, You're building something genuine with him. Why
would you even risk that it could be derailed just
for the not having an uncomfortable And this guy should
have confirmed, should have said should I book these flights?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Gay or nay?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And if he'd said that and you said yes, then
yes you're the asshole.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
But if he didn't do that, I.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Had a couple more fucking conversations with you before booking
an international or flight and assuming that he can stay
with you, yeah, like to say I am coming to
see you, not reconfirm until six days out yeah, fucking
crazy to me, You're not the asshole. That boy's just
living in his Delulu and hopefully he snapped out of it.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, agreed, all right.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Next, Hey Ezy, I just want to say I love
the new podcast. You're absolutely smashing it and I'm so
proud of you.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It just looks like gollum. Oh you went w god girl,
Thank you and thank you Beyonce. Thank you, Beyonce. That's
very sweet. You're an asshole. Not you, my sister, not you, Beyonce. Not.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I wanted to get your thoughts on something that's been
going on at school. At the start of the year,
it was just me and my two best friends, but
our friendship circle has grown to about seven girls.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I'm a massive extrovert and get along with most of
the girls in our year levels, so I've really enjoyed it.
But one of my closest friends, that's all Sally, isn't
the same way. Sally is an only child and has
a really strict parents, no drinking, no boys, that kind
of thing. I totally respect her boundaries, but I've started
becoming really close with another girl, Hannah. Hannah and I
have been to quite a few house parties this year
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and have had a bit of an experience with boys.
I've kissed three, nothing major, but I'm also super focused
on sport and training, so I'm not looking for a
boyfriend or anything right now. I've also had some tough
family stuff over the past two years, and to be honest,
Sally hasn't been there for me at all. When things
first started happening at home, she made me feel really
guilty and self conscious, mostly because she just couldn't relate well.
(24:36):
Sally sounds like a rich nah family problems are hud
so I stopped opening up to her and started turning
to Hannah, who really gets it. Our home lives are
pretty similar and we've gotten really close really fast. Lately, though,
Sally has been acting jealous of my friendship with Hannah
and it's starting to feel toxic. She constantly judges me
for going to parties, talking to boys, and even going
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to the footy. She's made comments that basically imply I'm
a slut.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Really hurts.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I've only kissed a few guys and I've always made
choices that I'm comfortable with, but she makes me feel
ashamed for doing things she wouldn't do. Herself now, I'm
just wondering, am I the asshole from distancing myself from Sally.
We've been best friends since he's seven wherein you're eleven now,
but lately she makes you feel like crap and I'm
tired of walking on eggshells around her. Thanks so much, Jilly,
(25:21):
definitely not the asshole. No, anyone who makes you feel
guilty about choices you're making actually or romantically can fuck
off because even if you had kissed the entire year level,
even slept with the entire that is still notrogative a slut,
that's your fucking business. So anybody who makes you feel
(25:43):
guilty about that, you can easily let go from your life,
in my opinion, And it's like, why wouldn't you bond
and create a friendship with someone that's seeing you and
being understanding towards you. That doesn't mean you can't be
friends with Sally. And I feel like there is a
real ish you sometimes with girls and jealousy people getting
closer to other people, especially when you're younger, and it's
(26:06):
all you kind of knew to be friends with this person.
But bottom line is, you can't ever assume that the
people you meet in a proximity friendship almost in a
school are going to be your friends, your best friends
for the rest of your life. You are gonna meet
people that are better for you, people that see you more,
make you more comfortable. And that's just the reality of things,
you know. And if Sally and you are meant to
be friends, you will absolutely stay friends. But but it's okay,
(26:29):
I have multiple best friends provide different things for you.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, I drifted from so many friends. I practically from
high friends that I went to school with.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, because you change, and as you change, your friends
don't change in the same way all the time, and
you drift.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And that's just like, you're not the asshole.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And I think, honestly, it's seeming like something that once
you're out of school, you'll probably be quite close to
Hannah and not as close to something anymore. And even
if you drift from Hannah eventually too, you will always
also find some friends come and go based on what
you need in that period. Maybe Hannah might be a
friend that you need for what's going on in your
family right now.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
You're not the asshole.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You're not to prioritize your feelings always. That's what I've
been doing this year, and thinks I've been working up
pretty good. Put yourself birthed?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
All right? Am I the asshole? Hey girl? So I've
been stuck in a pickle.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I have feelings for my boyfriend, but I don't love
him in the way he loves me. He's my first boyfriend,
and I feel like I should have butterflies and want
to be around him all the time and miss him
when I'm not. We've been together for seven months. I
tried to end things with him one month in because
something just didn't feel right. He stopped me and begged
me to try harder in the relationship. Over the last
few months, we've had some good times together and I
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said I loved him once and we were drunk, But
since then it hasn't come out naturally. I hadn't had
doubts throughout the last few months until the last month
that feeling came back again where I want more for myself.
I want to feel what love feels like. So I decided,
even though I like this guy, something is missing. I
tried to end things again the other night and he
was begging me to stay again. I tried to walk
(27:57):
out the door and he was calling me disrespectful forgiving
after everything he's done for me. Keep in mind he's
only done the better minimum of what a partner normally does.
He was grabbing my bags and not letting me leave.
He even stood in front of the door to stop me.
I didn't find it scary. He's not abusive or anything
like that. It just made it a whole lot harder
to leave. He begged me to stay the night and talk,
and we talked a little and then went to sleep.
(28:19):
Things didn't and I felt too bad for him. He
was crying and telling me he can't do this again.
Both times I've tried to end things, he was coercing
me and trying to make me stay and make it
more difficult to leave. My friends and family are telling
me I need to do it by texts. It's just
not working in person. Am I the asshole? If I
break up with him overtext like this?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Says Layers. I've been broken up over text both times.
I have broken it up with people over text several times.
It was brutal, but I feel like it was much
easier for me to do it that way. To be honest,
I feel like you've tried.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I actually think you've given it a good crack in person,
and now it actually might.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Be phone cool, happy medium.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
If you're breaking up with someone that doesn't want to
leave you, they are always going to be like, no, please, don't, please,
don't do you know what I mean? Like, what are
you doing? I don't want this to happen, you know.
So I've never broken up with anyone. I've only ever
been broken up with. Yeah, boohoo, poor me.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But like you're just kinda probably have to push through it,
Like what's your experience with that?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Breaking up with someone is not equally as hard, but
it is very hard in a different way because you
really have to be strong and even if they're the person,
breaking up someone is so much harder than being breakway.
Then I'm like, shut your I have I haven't actually had.
I haven't been broken up with before touchwood perfect girl. No,
not perfect. But so I actually don't know how hard
(29:40):
that is. But breaking up with someone is hard in
the way that you actually have to be fucking strong
because the other person is not going to be strong
for you.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Because they want you to say yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
They're going to do everything in their power obviously to
stay with you. So you need to be strong and
you need to go into that and saying nothing that
this person is going to say is going to make
me change my mind because it's not fair because he isn'
fair for the other person to have to go through
this over all.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And it's also not fair.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I think i'm this guy now because you're biding your
time right now until you can do it. So yeah, Cookie,
you do it the bead hing the long run for
both of you.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Do it and stick.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
To it so that he doesn't have to go through
this again. Also, do it over the phone. Do it,
call him and say this is happening. Please, don't try
and change my mind. If you want to have a
conversation in person about it, we can.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
But this is what's happening.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like we are we are done, we are broken up
now I'm not, but.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
This is what's happening. You know how you're like I
was thinking about this the other day. It's just so
off topic, but like how you were just like.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I'll be like itching and like dying and like so far,
like I've had the worst fucking exper and everything all year,
and Riley goes you itching is just like so fucking
annoying for me, and I'm like, excuse you, bitch, You're
not the one that is scratching your whole fucking body constantly.
(30:59):
You know you know what that reminds me of as
well well. And you will agree with me on this.
We're on the same team here, Okay. Coughing, Yeah, we
don't judge each other's coffee. We don't judge anyone for
coughing over and over again.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You go nuts and you let it out, skirls. Friend.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I had, like, I actually had to leave my artelve
exams early because of coughing fits, you know, and you
know it always hits you when it's quiet in the Yeah,
And I had to leave the last fifteen minutes of
a couple of my exams because I was like coughing
to the point of vomiting. It's like someone when I
left the exam, someone said that was so fucking annoying,
like can you not?
Speaker 1 (31:34):
And I just wanted to smack them on the head.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I was coughing, bawling, my eyes like tears streaming down
my face.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I couldn't write. I had to leave.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
You got twenty minutes more exam time than I did,
and you're annoyed.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's shut your socking mouth.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
So yes, it's annoying, but like we're not people. We
will never judge you.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Will never judge you for cock because it's.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So I know how bad it feels, because you're so
stressed out. I actually had a coughing fit at my job,
so it happens. I thought that this was something I
would leave in childhood. No, no, no, it comes with
you as a fucking adult. I was in the office,
it was silent as hell, yeah, and I was having
coughing fits and I had to go and stand in
the disabled bathroom for no drug twenty minutes that at
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the call center, I remember, and I just I was
dying and I was so embarrassed and like I had
to leave work that day because I was like, I
can't fucking stop. And everyone's looking at you like this
is so annoying. I'm like annoying for me.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, that is the only.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Person this is anyway, that's totally irrelevant, But we just
want to say another hemiou you are the arshole of
you judge people for having coughing Yeah, you are the
asshole if Yeah what is he said?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
And thank you Beyonce all the time.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Thank you Beyonce. This episode is dedicated to Beyonce and
everything you do for the world. We love your country
music and if you want us to be bet at
the Illuminati, whatever you say things, we will join the Illuminati.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
All right, guys, that was am I the asshole.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
We have so many amazing submissions, so I'm definitely going
to do a part two as Riley has to fucking
leave like a booch. But we love you guys. Thank
you for listening every week. Appreciate you, Riley, say something
for the people. We appreciate y'all. So go Riot, dude,
go Riot, and on three two, thank you for your
saf
It just looks like golum. Oh you went war.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
My sister's tap tap tap and yeah, but makes.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Me want to kill you.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You had it for a while there, and I was
I had my shit together. You know, I got a
job when I was eighteen. I w was, so did I.
I went to the course two years. I'm just having anyway.
All right, Hello, guys, welcome back to hear me out.
We have our hopefully, and I hate giving her a
compliment a regular.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Guest and giving the people they won't Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No, you guys did love our episode. I loved recording
it personally.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I think it's a funny dynamic that you just don't
really get anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So, in case you don't know, my sister Riley is back.
I have some interesting questions that the viewers want to hear. Oh,
you have recently hard launched a new relationship. What can
you tell us about it? I can't tell everything because
she wants to keep the views to us. We will
want to share our story story at the same time
together a story there is It's a cool story, is it?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Well? I was straight and now I'm not. I guess
it's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Briley is dating a female I'm dating a girly pop
and I love it and I love her and it's amazing.
She has made me feel like boys will never be
adequate anymore. Yeah, that Briley was like, I could never
go back to a guy like the way that I'm
understood like, and as she's saying these things, I'm like, fuck,
I have to have one of those. Yeah, I know,
(01:33):
I feel I actually feel grateful every day that I
have this ability in me to be with a woman,
or to be with Tessa more specifically, because if I
didn't have this in me, I would never be fucking
happy ever again, because men just do not cut it.
Like this is just so much more fulfilling and it's
amazing and I'm so happy. Well, I can't wait to
(01:55):
never get that. Who knows, No, I totally believe that
the right guy there will fulfill everything I need to.
But yeah, it's definitely there's a level I feel like
that girls will understand you and get you and see
you that I feel like, you really have to have
the right guy to get that kind of level.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, you would. It would take like a serious thing.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But to be fair, I also think that Tessa's just
like that she's just it's not just because she's a girl, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Like she's special. Yeah, there are some shitty fucking girls
going around to the Certainly we are not two of those.
We are really really nice green.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
But I think we start with hear me outs. Just
get right into it this week, what's yours? Oh, now
that I'm thinking about it, I could get killed for this.
Who We're fine? This is like hear me Out. I
feel like it's a pretty own. No, I don't know
anyone has control over this person. I think Beyonce is
the leader of the illuminati. Okay, I actually I don't
(02:54):
like Beyonce even a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh wait, hang on?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Also, yeah, her music is terrible. Is she still famous?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I think because she's in the illumina like Halo and
like single Lady Like I don't particularly like that lady
era ever been in my playlist. But that video of
her singing Halo in like a town, like a in
a town, Okay, she was like surrounded by people, do
you know what I'm talking? Yes, Okay, she was singing
(03:23):
to like kids or a charity or something I don't know,
And that is like an incredible video And that made
me go like, okay, like you can sing, yeah, but okay,
Beyonce has pips. But no, this is not what I
mean the old Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
She's too much power.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
She was great, but I haven't heard a single one
of her songs lately and she's still winning like Song
of the Year.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I'm like, no, that pissed me up.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And like there's actually a friend of mine that argues
with me on this, and I don't quite remember who
it is, but Beyonce one country album, Country Music Artist
of the Year, And I was like, that is so
unfair to all the country music singers who actually that
is their genre, and she just pops into country for
a year and ends up like thriving in it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, oh my god is calling me. Oh it's because
she she's the leader of the Illuminati.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah. But I also some of the argument that the
friend gave me that I don't quite remember is that
she apparently has been studying country music for like ten
years or whatever, I wrong, whatever, whatever, studying country music
for ten years or something, and like that this is
her album.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I still don't care.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You're a pop singer and you've come in and like
taken over the whole music awards for that sets up
and it's like everyone is a country music artist is like,
should I just pack up and fucking go home? And
did you hear how anyone who like doesn't thank her
dies or something? Well that's why there's no going around
for a while where everyone had to be like people
they posted TikTok and be like thanks because she fucking
(04:51):
kills them. I do have a funny. I just don't
like her. I think there's something she has a bit
too much power. And I'm thank you Beyonce, though for you,
I'd say I wouldn't be hearing without you today. I just
think there's something something unsettling about Beyonce as a person.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, I don't know her personal.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So Jay Z one of the ugliest people I've ever
seen in my life and he cheated on her.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah yeah, not a fan of him either.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
But there's my family. There's even their daughter, Blue Ivy,
Blue Ivy.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
No, It's like, Oh, I was reading celebrities with weird
kids names, and I think the top top weird. I
actually think I read listen to this on Just for Girls.
No is Nick Cannon's kids names millionaires, Zion and Zillionaire.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And Fluffy Love or some shit. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You should, if you want a fucking laugh, search up
Nick Cannon's kids names, because they actually get progressively worse.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But my big interest is this kid.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
This guy has kids with what ten different women, and
every single one of these women agreed to naming their
kids everything when money okay, he would have paid them.
Let's call our kids zillion air. Yeah, but some of
them are worse than no, I'll.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Read the word. Let me just actually get the worst ones.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Out, Powerful Queen Cannon, Rise Messiah Cannon, Zion Mixo, Lydian Cannon,
Zillionaire Canon is really bad, too, Beautiful Zeppelin Cannon.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That's pretty bad. Yeah, this is I reckon, probably one
of the worst.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Too, Legendary Love Canon and every single one of those
women went, yeah, yeah, that's not child abuse.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Let's go ahead with ridiculous. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I think there's something to be said for people that
name the kids shit like that. But watch me name
my kid like Cameron Ashen, like the American.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I love those Americans. Yeah, speaking of Americans, I went
to Bali.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And Americans are just a different fucking breed of human.
Do you know what I mean, so I used to
find them annoying. I still do sometimes I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Not out here saying I find them annoying. I'm just
saying I used to find them annoying.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
If I heard them in like a restaurant when we're
on a holiday or something, I'd be like yeah, But
then think about how loud we are and our accents
not particular.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It's quite jam.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now I feel like, you know, you add something to
my life. You're interesting because they're so different. So that's
what I mean, I enjoy I think they're hilarious. So
it was my birthday at Finns, and like I we
ended up these American guys ended up coming avatars and
they were just nice guys, Like there wasn't We just
hung out with them for the night and the next morning.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Some of the stuff they sent us.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Is so American, like they'd be like hazy, like last
night was search a riot with.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You guys, and it's just like that is so American.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And then one the other one's sexted one of my
friends and goes like, let me know where you guys
are pre gaming today.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Oh I love them, I know, and we.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Just the whole time, we just couldn't be kept being
like did last night was such a fucking riot. It's
like Americans are just like they are different.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Am they're a movie or they're a movie.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I think they actually behave as if they're constantly being filmed.
That's what they like, that's what they do. They're like
entertainers to everyone. Like if you're learning up to get
a coffee, American in front of you, Yeah, they're being filmed.
And then we saw them at Savaara and they're like,
we just got this watermelon hookah, like it's so fucking good, dude,
(08:14):
like you know the shehs oh yeah, and then he's
like no, honestly, it's like so, I'm like, you can
have it.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But I went through a big sheshi era when I
was in high school. That is an ink in itself.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I hate that you and my friends would go to
the shesha bar off Chople Street. Really yeah, like on
a fucking Thursday.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Nicotine in them or is it just water?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But we thought we were like so crazy. It was
so much fun, and we take all these photos and
they're like blowing out there. My big sister that I
aspired to be, like smoking shisha in a bar true
at the time.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, take a poll on that. I just agree, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So this week's episode is am I the Asshole and
am I the Aarshole? I think is one of my favorite.
It's obviously a submission episode. We got you guys to
send in your stories and I just love reading this.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I'm excited for this one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So we're just gonna decide basically, are you the problem? Yeah,
or whoever you're talking about, and we will tell you. Wait,
I have another hemie out go and it actually leads
into this. I thought of this the other day and
I was actually speaking a testa about this. You know,
when people, you judge people like when you first see them, like,
you judge them. I never judge someone. You won't want to.
You won't want to say that. Yeah, judging people is
(09:25):
actually ingrained in our physiology. We needed to judge people
to deem whether people were going to be safe for
us or not in the past. So it actually doesn't
make you a bad person. It's actually ingrained in your
body to judge people at first glance and to try
engage as much as you can from looking at them.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't think I think too much.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I feel like everyone's just going to judge someone the
moment they meet them, like, just figure out what they're about.
I know, but I think sometimes you can be higher
on yourself for judging someone.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You're like, fuck, Like, am I bitch? What's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But I think that that's actually, to an extent normal.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's across the board, something that every human does.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, anyway, because we're about to be judging some bitches
on me, Well, we.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Have to be honest. Are there the asshole? And sometimes
he might be? So let's go number one? Am I
the asshole?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
My brother and I decided we wanted to get a
house mate to reduce our rent. My hairdresser happened to
be looking for somewhere or live. Let's call her Karen.
My brother and I thought it would be convenient. Number
one cheaper rent. Number two she colored and cut my
hair for free, and number three she was always a
fun time.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I got along with her, so why not.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Around the time Karen moved in, our current lease was
due to end, and my brother and I decided whether
to stay where we were a small townhouse or move.
Karen suggested we moved to a bigger house, as her
boyfriend was wanting to move in also without hesitation, My
brother and I moved house, catering for both Karen and
her boyfriend let's call him Tim.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Is Tim the male Karen? What do you think the
male Karen is? I don't even know where to begin
with that, Brian, Yeah, good shot.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It suited us as having Tim also reduced our rent.
As time went on, I realized that living with Karen
was the biggest mistake of my life. Okay, my friends
warned me about living with Karen. Almost anyone that I
ran into has either directly had an awful experience with
Karen or heard of an awful experience. Karen was the
type to overstep without permission, that could never read the room,
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gets into random vibes every time she SIPs alcohol. Stayed
at hairdressing salons for no longer than two months.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I actually find.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That I noticed that like at my hairdresser, like sometimes
people like come in and out and it's like hairdresses
have like beef, like they know each other from like
other salons, never maintains any long term friendships. I mentioned
that last week that I said that that's a problem
if someone can't do that and cheats on her boyfriend.
Long sounds like a riot. Sounds like a fucking.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Riot, a fucking riot. I love Karen. Long story short.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I reached chipping point after she constantly entered my room
to use my makeup clothes, undies that would send me, Yeah,
do not going like it's not a system, do not.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Touch my shit.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah yeah, it's like even a cis are using your
shit is annoying. But like if to have someone that
isn't your family coming.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
No things, no, no thank you. Even my sheets for
her bed.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Not okay, especially if you're in a relationship age family,
my friend, sheets are off limits. Like we buy our
own sheets and like they're our sheets and they are
on Riley's bed, I'd be like, what the fuck are
you doing? And we treat them like it's a temple.
It's a weekly change.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, no outside clothes in the bed. It's very very protected.
We're clean girls on the outside.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Friends of hers would sleep in my bed and try
and make it look away that I wouldn't tell that
is fucking not okay. Whenever I was away, I would
have chronic I can already tell you're not the asshole.
But I'm enjoying these story so I'm going to keep going.
Whenever I was away, I would have chronic anxiety that
she would steal something or use something of value to
me and overstep so many boundaries. It was a living hell.
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But as we know, Karen was not easily approachable. I
always kept the peace, praying for the day that the
lease ran out. And in the meantime, my brother and
I loved Tim. Oh, he was just a poor fella
getting used and abused. He finally broke up with her
and told her to move out. Oh and me and
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my brother were over the moon. But four months went
by and he started seeing her again. I pulled Tim
aside and told him everything, you would think that that's
actually quite lucky that Tim, say, got the right of
way to be like, you move out?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, pretty much had a full vent about how I
really didn't want her coming back, even though they're back together.
Tim said he tries harder to keep her away, but
he didn't want to make it obvious that I hated her.
As time went on, almost every night Karen would sneak
into the house and stay with Tim. She would eat
my food, use my toiletrees toothpaste. I even found my
toothbrush wet next to the sink after a night she
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snuck over immediate bin if I can't tell even if
I'm like, maybe someone's used my teeth brush.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Being who would have maybe used your tooth throw?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You know how like sometimes your friends like no, no,
it would be me and you. Sometimes we would get
confused at which color was which when we were sharing
a bathroom, and.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I would always just chuck it out. I wouldn't chuck
it out.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I don't care sharing toothbrushes with certain people me you.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Tessa, and so you wouldn't mind sharing a toothbrush with me?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Probably not ick, but you do you But that's very sweet, Okay.
She would even come into the kitchen on morning she
stayed over with no pants on when my parents were over,
rubbing in the.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Fact that she was back.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I absolutely there's a certain aspect of that that I'm like,
in her mind, this is probably still like somewhere she
lived in her house, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I absolutely erupted at ports him. The next time I
saw him and asked him to leave. I told him
I couldn't stand her or him, and that he was
bringing her around and wanted him to leave. He moved out,
and me and my brother have been so so happy since.
Am I the asshole for kicking Tim out purely because
his girlfriend gave me trauma?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Or is my reaction valid?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
They're now broken up because she cheated on him again
with her ex. Not surprised kind of makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I know she's not the asshole.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I think your home should be a sanctuary, and if
someone's fucking with that, then they need to leave.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah. I feel like there's so many people with roommates
that are unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, a really shitty situation in that regard, just for
money's sake, But I think if you could afford it
with your brother, No, you're not the asshole, nose and Tim.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Canfind somewhere Elsely, Tim seems like a nice guy. I'm
a big boy.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Tim can find his own And if Tim's broken up
and wanted to move back in, you know, maybe he
can be the Probably not.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I think Tim needs to stay away because you never know.
You never know.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
With Karen, you don't. She could sneak in just for
the shits, even when they're not together. Because you use
your toothbrush and steal a pair of rangel locks just
in case and buy a new sheets and buy new sheets, yeah,
completely new ones.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Throw out the mattress or tim. I hope he's doing okay,
all right, just another thank you Beyonce, just because I
feel really scared. Thank you Beyonce for sending out the submission.
Thank you Beyonce. I literally need to go home and
like sleep. I was going to make salmon salmon works.
I just want food cooks. I was going to make
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salmon kale and oh my god, kale. It just gets
worse and worse, so it's really good. It's really I
don't like kale.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Kale to me is like I was going to make
for Can you buy some broccolini and I'll make myself
some brocolini?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah? Thank you? What type of someone kariochy with what kariarchy?
And just kale?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Calum rice and kick it? Menace, ketchup, menace, whatever the fuck?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Keck up? Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Am I the asshole number two? So about a year ago,
I was in Bali, Balle. I was in Bali and
I met this guy let's call him Ben, at Finn's
Beach Club, the home of the riot.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Right did your pre game?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
He lives in New Zealand. I live in Australia. I
was plastered.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You know how it goes, I actually do.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I had a nap midway through, as in like not
at fins. I went home, napped and then went back.
Did she really I needed it? I'm a tired girlie.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
It's so fair, but like as if you had the
energy to go back.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I had no intention of doing it. And then Hannah
was like, is like Logan's waiting downstairs for you?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And I'm like, oh fuck.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I thought she'd like gone back, and so I was like, oh, respect,
back up, change my outfit had a glass of rose.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Back.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
We go to riot with the right city. I was pasted,
you know how it goes. We hit it off, spent
the night together, and I flew home the next day.
It was fun, but to me it felt like one
of those spontaneous travel moments you leave behind when you
get in the plane. Fast forward a couple of months
spend and I would message on and off, nothing deep.
Then I don't know where he starts getting super intense,
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telling me how much he missed me, how special that
night had been for him.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Meanwhile, I honestly don't remember most of it. I was
that drunk sister. I feel you. I feel like there's
not often a night that I get drunk.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I remember all of it, Like I have serious blackout tendencies.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I've always had that. Though I've blacked out.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Twice, there will always be gup. So it doesn't matter
how much or little I drink. If there's like a
little period throughout the night where I'm feeling a little
bit more drunk, that night will have no memory to me.
And then as like I sober up maybe thirty minutes
later that then my memory comes back.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's constant.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It was initially because of my anxiety, meant that I
was on and then I changed them, and I think
these ones do the same, just like in a slightly
less anyway, not important, that's a tool where I have
to unpack at a different time. I responded with something
like wow, that's nice, and kept things pretty surface level.
It felt a bit much, especially since I'd only met
him once and he lived in another country. Then one
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night Ben calls me drunk and tells me his book
to flight to come visit me.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I feel like, at this one, this girl probably just
doesn't seem like she likes him that much, But I
was like, that could be like fun, like you just
have like another fun night out in Melbourne or wherever
you live. I kind of panicked.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I didn't know how serious he were, and I started
wondering whether I'd accidentally given him the wrong idea. When
I didn't hear anything more about it, I assumed it
was just a drunk impulsive comment and didn't take it seriously.
Around that time, I met someone at work. Let's call
him Harry. He lived five minutes away, asked me out.
We had the best first day.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Everything felt easy and exciting in a real world, grounded way.
One day, one day it happened to you. One day,
I'm happy for you, girl, you're the asshole, next question.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
We kept seeing each other and pretty quickly it started
to feel like something really special. Then, about a month
after Ben's drunk call, I get a totally unexpected message
from him saying I'm super keen to.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
See you this weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
He's a bit d Lulu. Ben needed to have followed
that up. Yeah, I hadn't spoken to him in weeks.
Weeks quiplash spoken.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
To him in weeks all right, all right, suffering. I
was confused and replied with a bunch of question marks.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Oh, okay, fair enough, but no, but someone needs to
fucking address the elephant in the room and have a
real conversation here, you know, question mark B direct? Yeah,
are you coming to make this weekend?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Do you know where I am? Yeah? I was confused
and replied with a bunch of question marks.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's when he tells me I'm coming to see you
in six days and actually sends me his flight details.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Okay, there's the directness we need. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I asked if he was bringing a friend good as
in like are you coming to Melbourne, like just with mates,
or if this trip was primarily to spend the weekend
with me. He said it was all about seeing me,
and then he missed the connection we had and we
had been holding off telling me properly because he was nervous.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
If I had slept with a man in another country,
seen him once, and then flown home, I could not
imagine the audacity of just booking a flight to this
guy's country and just letting him know that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah. No, it is a little bit ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
And for him to say I didn't feel comfortable telling
you why I was coming. You're doing making a giant step.
You need to tell her that you're spending the entire
time with her. You can't just let that go by
the wayside. Needs to be addressed.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
He also admitted he assumed I was on the same page.
That's the assumption is wrong. What is it? Assumption is
the thief of joy or is that something that's comparison honey,
Oh alright, whatever?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Assumption is the thief thief joy fit assumpthing is the
thief of toy. I hate when people say sayings with
like heavy confidence and.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
They're wrong, Like I just assumpthing is the thief of thoy. Okay. Continue.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
He also admitted he assumed I was on the same page,
especially since I didn't shut him down when he told
me about it during that drunk call. In his mind,
because I'd spent that one night with him, it meant something,
and he.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Figured I'd just go along with it. I didn't know
how to respond.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I ended up telling him I didn't have anywhere for
to stay, and then I already had plans that weekend,
which I didn't. The truth is I was developing something
genuine with Harry and spending the weekend with someone I
barely knew, someone I hadn't seen in a year, would have.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Completely derailed that.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Fair enough, Ben, It was disappointed, but didn't argue, and
we haven't spoken since. Now Harry and I have been
dating for nine months and it's going incredibly well. You
happy for you, girl, But I still wonder was I
the asshole for asking Ben to cancel an international flat
just a week out. I never invited him, he never
confirmed it with me, but I also never fully shut
things down earlier.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
No, No, you're not the asshole.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You don't needs, not even a little bend anytime with
anyone you don't want to see. And it's like you
liked this guy, You're building something genuine with him. Why
would you even risk that it could be derailed just
for the not having an uncomfortable And this guy should
have confirmed, should have said should I book these flights?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Gay or nay?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And if he'd said that and you said yes, then
yes you're the asshole.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
But if he didn't do that, I.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Had a couple more fucking conversations with you before booking
an international or flight and assuming that he can stay
with you, yeah, like to say I am coming to
see you, not reconfirm until six days out yeah, fucking
crazy to me, You're not the asshole. That boy's just
living in his Delulu and hopefully he snapped out of it.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, agreed, all right.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Next, Hey Ezy, I just want to say I love
the new podcast. You're absolutely smashing it and I'm so
proud of you.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It just looks like gollum. Oh you went w god girl,
Thank you and thank you Beyonce. Thank you, Beyonce. That's
very sweet. You're an asshole. Not you, my sister, not you, Beyonce. Not.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I wanted to get your thoughts on something that's been
going on at school. At the start of the year,
it was just me and my two best friends, but
our friendship circle has grown to about seven girls.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I'm a massive extrovert and get along with most of
the girls in our year levels, so I've really enjoyed it.
But one of my closest friends, that's all Sally, isn't
the same way. Sally is an only child and has
a really strict parents, no drinking, no boys, that kind
of thing. I totally respect her boundaries, but I've started
becoming really close with another girl, Hannah. Hannah and I
have been to quite a few house parties this year
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and have had a bit of an experience with boys.
I've kissed three, nothing major, but I'm also super focused
on sport and training, so I'm not looking for a
boyfriend or anything right now. I've also had some tough
family stuff over the past two years, and to be honest,
Sally hasn't been there for me at all. When things
first started happening at home, she made me feel really
guilty and self conscious, mostly because she just couldn't relate well.
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Sally sounds like a rich nah family problems are hud
so I stopped opening up to her and started turning
to Hannah, who really gets it. Our home lives are
pretty similar and we've gotten really close really fast. Lately, though,
Sally has been acting jealous of my friendship with Hannah
and it's starting to feel toxic. She constantly judges me
for going to parties, talking to boys, and even going
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to the footy. She's made comments that basically imply I'm
a slut.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Really hurts.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I've only kissed a few guys and I've always made
choices that I'm comfortable with, but she makes me feel
ashamed for doing things she wouldn't do. Herself now, I'm
just wondering, am I the asshole from distancing myself from Sally.
We've been best friends since he's seven wherein you're eleven now,
but lately she makes you feel like crap and I'm
tired of walking on eggshells around her. Thanks so much, Jilly,
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definitely not the asshole. No, anyone who makes you feel
guilty about choices you're making actually or romantically can fuck
off because even if you had kissed the entire year level,
even slept with the entire that is still notrogative a slut,
that's your fucking business. So anybody who makes you feel
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guilty about that, you can easily let go from your life,
in my opinion, And it's like, why wouldn't you bond
and create a friendship with someone that's seeing you and
being understanding towards you. That doesn't mean you can't be
friends with Sally. And I feel like there is a
real ish you sometimes with girls and jealousy people getting
closer to other people, especially when you're younger, and it's
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all you kind of knew to be friends with this person.
But bottom line is, you can't ever assume that the
people you meet in a proximity friendship almost in a
school are going to be your friends, your best friends
for the rest of your life. You are gonna meet
people that are better for you, people that see you more,
make you more comfortable. And that's just the reality of things,
you know. And if Sally and you are meant to
be friends, you will absolutely stay friends. But but it's okay,
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I have multiple best friends provide different things for you.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, I drifted from so many friends. I practically from
high friends that I went to school with.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, because you change, and as you change, your friends
don't change in the same way all the time, and
you drift.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And that's just like, you're not the asshole.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And I think, honestly, it's seeming like something that once
you're out of school, you'll probably be quite close to
Hannah and not as close to something anymore. And even
if you drift from Hannah eventually too, you will always
also find some friends come and go based on what
you need in that period. Maybe Hannah might be a
friend that you need for what's going on in your
family right now.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
You're not the asshole.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You're not to prioritize your feelings always. That's what I've
been doing this year, and thinks I've been working up
pretty good. Put yourself birthed?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
All right? Am I the asshole? Hey girl? So I've
been stuck in a pickle.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I have feelings for my boyfriend, but I don't love
him in the way he loves me. He's my first boyfriend,
and I feel like I should have butterflies and want
to be around him all the time and miss him
when I'm not. We've been together for seven months. I
tried to end things with him one month in because
something just didn't feel right. He stopped me and begged
me to try harder in the relationship. Over the last
few months, we've had some good times together and I
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said I loved him once and we were drunk, But
since then it hasn't come out naturally. I hadn't had
doubts throughout the last few months until the last month
that feeling came back again where I want more for myself.
I want to feel what love feels like. So I decided,
even though I like this guy, something is missing. I
tried to end things again the other night and he
was begging me to stay again. I tried to walk
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out the door and he was calling me disrespectful forgiving
after everything he's done for me. Keep in mind he's
only done the better minimum of what a partner normally does.
He was grabbing my bags and not letting me leave.
He even stood in front of the door to stop me.
I didn't find it scary. He's not abusive or anything
like that. It just made it a whole lot harder
to leave. He begged me to stay the night and talk,
and we talked a little and then went to sleep.
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Things didn't and I felt too bad for him. He
was crying and telling me he can't do this again.
Both times I've tried to end things, he was coercing
me and trying to make me stay and make it
more difficult to leave. My friends and family are telling
me I need to do it by texts. It's just
not working in person. Am I the asshole? If I
break up with him overtext like this?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Says Layers. I've been broken up over text both times.
I have broken it up with people over text several times.
It was brutal, but I feel like it was much
easier for me to do it that way. To be honest,
I feel like you've tried.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I actually think you've given it a good crack in person,
and now it actually might.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Be phone cool, happy medium.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
If you're breaking up with someone that doesn't want to
leave you, they are always going to be like, no, please, don't, please,
don't do you know what I mean? Like, what are
you doing? I don't want this to happen, you know.
So I've never broken up with anyone. I've only ever
been broken up with. Yeah, boohoo, poor me.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But like you're just kinda probably have to push through it,
Like what's your experience with that?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Breaking up with someone is not equally as hard, but
it is very hard in a different way because you
really have to be strong and even if they're the person,
breaking up someone is so much harder than being breakway.
Then I'm like, shut your I have I haven't actually had.
I haven't been broken up with before touchwood perfect girl. No,
not perfect. But so I actually don't know how hard
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that is. But breaking up with someone is hard in
the way that you actually have to be fucking strong
because the other person is not going to be strong
for you.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Because they want you to say yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
They're going to do everything in their power obviously to
stay with you. So you need to be strong and
you need to go into that and saying nothing that
this person is going to say is going to make
me change my mind because it's not fair because he isn'
fair for the other person to have to go through
this over all.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And it's also not fair.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I think i'm this guy now because you're biding your
time right now until you can do it. So yeah, Cookie,
you do it the bead hing the long run for
both of you.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Do it and stick.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
To it so that he doesn't have to go through
this again. Also, do it over the phone. Do it,
call him and say this is happening. Please, don't try
and change my mind. If you want to have a
conversation in person about it, we can.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
But this is what's happening.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like we are we are done, we are broken up
now I'm not, but.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
This is what's happening. You know how you're like I
was thinking about this the other day. It's just so
off topic, but like how you were just like.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I'll be like itching and like dying and like so far,
like I've had the worst fucking exper and everything all year,
and Riley goes you itching is just like so fucking
annoying for me, and I'm like, excuse you, bitch, You're
not the one that is scratching your whole fucking body constantly.
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You know you know what that reminds me of as
well well. And you will agree with me on this.
We're on the same team here, Okay. Coughing, Yeah, we
don't judge each other's coffee. We don't judge anyone for
coughing over and over again.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You go nuts and you let it out, skirls. Friend.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I had, like, I actually had to leave my artelve
exams early because of coughing fits, you know, and you
know it always hits you when it's quiet in the Yeah,
And I had to leave the last fifteen minutes of
a couple of my exams because I was like coughing
to the point of vomiting. It's like someone when I
left the exam, someone said that was so fucking annoying,
like can you not?
Speaker 1 (31:34):
And I just wanted to smack them on the head.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I was coughing, bawling, my eyes like tears streaming down
my face.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I couldn't write. I had to leave.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
You got twenty minutes more exam time than I did,
and you're annoyed.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's shut your socking mouth.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
So yes, it's annoying, but like we're not people. We
will never judge you.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Will never judge you for cock because it's.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So I know how bad it feels, because you're so
stressed out. I actually had a coughing fit at my job,
so it happens. I thought that this was something I
would leave in childhood. No, no, no, it comes with
you as a fucking adult. I was in the office,
it was silent as hell, yeah, and I was having
coughing fits and I had to go and stand in
the disabled bathroom for no drug twenty minutes that at
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the call center, I remember, and I just I was
dying and I was so embarrassed and like I had
to leave work that day because I was like, I
can't fucking stop. And everyone's looking at you like this
is so annoying. I'm like annoying for me.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, that is the only.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Person this is anyway, that's totally irrelevant, But we just
want to say another hemiou you are the arshole of
you judge people for having coughing Yeah, you are the
asshole if Yeah what is he said?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
And thank you Beyonce all the time.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Thank you Beyonce. This episode is dedicated to Beyonce and
everything you do for the world. We love your country
music and if you want us to be bet at
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