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July 16, 2025 • 42 mins

Hi guys! Welcome back to Hear Me Out - on this episode me and my producer Blake are giving your our Hear Me Out moments of the week, before we read out all of your spicy hot-takes! From attractive cousins to being allowed to text your ex on their birthday, these had us debating and laughing all at once. Thank you for all the love so far and I can't wait to bring you a special guest next week xxx

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, hear me out. I find my guys an extremely attractive.

(00:03):
I don't actually know how to say anything in response
to this one. Hi, guys, welcome back to hear me Out.
My name's Easy Armatage and this is it's episode three
thinks a movie so quickly already, I'm honestly overwhelmed by
the support and the love that you guys have given me.
And in the Riley episode last week, that was so

(00:24):
fun for me to film. I would never tell, but
I think it was really good. And like if you
guys enjoyed that dynamic, because I feel like there's assisted
dynamic is always just something that you can't really recreate.
I want to get her maybe on every couple months
or like more of a regular guest, because I feel
like it was really fun. But thank you again for
all the support, even all the ratings on Spotify and everything. Guys,

(00:46):
I love you so much. Obviously it was number two
on the Trending podcast, which is crazy, guys, So thank you.
But yeah, obviously Riley comes back in the podcast. We
have to lay out some ground rules, so there's no
calling my cat fat or ugly, and she can't say
anything bad about me. So that's basically what's gonna happen.
But that's across the board for all the guests. No

(01:07):
calling my cat fart and only nice things about me.
A little update guys on what's been going on since
we last quart up. Yeah, girls are training again, which
is like I say that, and I guess I've done
pt and stuff previously. But if I'm being fully transparent
with you, I will organize three sessions a week for example,
and best case scenario, I'll make it to two, and

(01:30):
I'll usually cancel one or two, sometimes all three because
I can't get up in the morning. But I've started
doing it somewhere else. I'm doing four sessions a week.
I'm feeling really motivated though, like I don't have any
desire to cancel it, I think, because yeah, maybe I'm
not entirely happy with, you know, my body and all that,
but to be honest, I don't make any effort to

(01:51):
fix it, you know. And it's like exercise is so good,
feel it will be good for my mental health. It's
good from getting me up early in the morning all
that jizz. So I'm just kind of excited to get
into a good routine with it and I'm going to
Balley for my birthday in a couple months, and I
just want to feel really good, so training and then
I'm also doing this thing called m Sculpt, which I'm
doing it at Silhouette Lab, which is above Grip to

(02:12):
where I train. And it's like a fuck what even
Let me google so I can give you the proper definition.
But it's basically this machine that like tensors your muscles.
I'm doing it on my stomach and if you get
to one hundred percent on the machine, you do it
for thirty minutes. It's like doing twenty thousand sit ups,
which is fucking crazy, and I've only done it once
so far, but I'm doing that two times a week

(02:32):
because why not. I feel like in conjunction with the training.
And obviously eating is where I really struggle to like
eat healthy because we all know my feel with pasta
and I've got a very addictive personality and if it's
there in the fridge, if it's in the cabinet, I
will eat that over anything else because it's just it.
To me, it's like a religious experience. It like I
enjoy it. It makes me enjoy money. If I've had

(02:54):
a big day or a bad day, I'm a busy
day or a slow day, I'm like, past, it will
make this day really good. So That's what I usually
lean towards. But I'm trying to change that. So if
you guys have any TikTok or Instagram pages of people
that do like sort of quick, easy, healthy recipes that
like don't seem really challenging, as in, like if they

(03:17):
involve an oven, I'm gonna have to veto it. So
can you get me some stove top easy recipes please?
All right? M sculpt is a non invasive contouring body
conjuring procedure that uses high intensity focus electromagnetic energy to
induce muscle contractions and reduce fat. Quite frankly, it's not comfortable,

(03:37):
like it actually quite it actually really hurts. Like I
saw a video of Cairo doing it and she's like, Oh,
it's just like a massage. I'm like, bitch, no, it's not.
It actually really hurts, But you get used to it
over time, Like I started on I think fifty percent strength,
and then by the end I was able to get
to one hundred. So I'm excited to see how that

(03:57):
works and whether it does work. So I'll keep you
guys in the loop on how that's going. But we
are going to beyond that. I'm not really doing anything.
I haven't gone any on any dates. I was going
in a lot of dates before I got my nose done.
I was feeling really like in that vibe and really
confident with it. And I think now that I haven't
gone a date in a couple months, I'm like, I'm

(04:18):
back to my scared, scaredy cat self. So, but I'd
like to go on a date. I now view them
as more fun. I think then I used to think like,
oh no, it's so nerve wracking. Now I'm like, it's
just a wine and a chat, and I feel like
I always end up having fun. So someone asked me out. Okay,
time to get into the hear me out this week?
We have the laky and he is going to give.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Us one hi. Oh my god, I didn't know I
was first off your first sight of course. Okay, So
I'm putting myself right in the firing line this week.
So I've been chatting to a girlfriend. She's like, had
this on and off thing with a guy recently, and
my hear me out this week? Is it his worst
to slow ghost as a guy than it is being

(05:02):
a girl.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Like girls can slow goos, some guys can't.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I think it's fine for girls.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, I I I slo ghost. I do. No one
knows what that is. It's like you're not ghosting and
never speaking to the guy again, but you just kind
of you do longer in between the messages, you reply
less and slowly, and eventually you just leave their last
message and never say yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I think the girl is to think about things harder.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
That to me is an easier out, less harsh out.
Then I'm actually doing it right now. Yeah, I just
almost feel like if I go to this guy, sorry,
chemistry is not there, you know, it's like he'll be like,
that's a lot, Like we've only gone in a couple
of days.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
That's what I was going to say, Like you don't
want it to come across like it was something more
like what he thinks it's something big and I we're
formally ending this where it's like, hey, I didn't feel
that way.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
It'd be like whoa, but like I didn't even like
you like that yet.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, And I get that. I want to unpack it
a little bit because it's so funny when it ol
friends saying to me, you know, this guy, he's slowed
down on the messages. He's not replying to this, he's
not replying to that. I'm like, what the hell, Like,
the least he can do is explain what's going on
in it, let you know. And that when I used
to be in the situation of like not knowing how
to turn a guy down or end things. So one

(06:17):
of my girlfriends is like uncomfortable not knowing how to
end things with the guy. I'm like, why when he
funk off, Like, what the hell? Just leave her alone?
And I don't know why. I'm so like, not the
guy owes it to the girl. The girl, Yeah, I'm
not a heartless cow like.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I do feel bad when I slow goes when I
noticed that they I know that they're probably well aware
that that's what's happening, and then they almost try and
pick up the communication. I know, and when they're a
nice person. Yeah, I just think it's a direct message
ending things is almost too harsh and makes it like
I think he thought it was more than he thinks

(06:54):
it is. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, and so,
but he keeps asking to see me now, and I'm like,
I can't just say yes for the sake of it
because I don't want to no. But directly saying no
is also something I'm not comfortable.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Maybe we need to like open it up to the audience.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
What's the middle ground between let's call it a dumping
and a slow goos, Like surely there is a middle
man there where it's just like a one line throwaway
that you can easily just end things and it's not serious,
because I think it's a serious chat. That is the
most confronting part about it. Yeah, and having to end
things that weren't even a thing.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, Like this guy he's congratulated me on the number
two charts and then was like, I'd like to see
you this week. So I actually if I respond and
say thank you, it's like then I have to respond
about the part of the text that says I'd like
to see you, And it's like I just don't want
to do that.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I don't know if this is the best response, but
like my instinct there would just be like, oh my god,
thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'm just ignore the second.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
But I just like looking forward to catching up down
the line.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
It's it's we're very much pulling a boy here where
boys pick the least important part of the message too.
Literally every even give it, So why can't I just
do that?

Speaker 2 (08:08):
You can?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And then he'll be like did you see that other
by the message? And then I just won't.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Say you have my permission?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Oh but yeah, there's something like if a boy, I'm like,
you need.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
To let me know how you feel, hondy, what shall
hear me out?

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Oh? My hearing's like it's I hope you'll agree, but
I could be we're the same, Like, can I the
same age? So we're both are you? It's the Snapchat
is only for people under the age of twenty one. Yeah,
and if you use Snapchat over that age, I'm really
sorry to tell you, but you need to delete it.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I think I've told you this before. This one reason
that I have Snapchat. I'm not overly proud, but it's
also like the thing keeping me there. I have a
three three thousand days straight.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
That Actually we have discussed this before because I was like,
why do you still have nap of chat?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
We like me and my bestie that is still like
locked in this streak. We're like we don't know why
we're doing this. We do not use snap.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
What are we getting out of this bike? Continuing? And
but it's just too long gone.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
We can't watch it go away like it's three three thousand,
that's like it's like six years. I drop mass, like
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Can you just find tell me how much it is?
I want to find out eight point two years? Oh
my god, you cannot get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
No, And I said to her because I think we
hit three thousand like the other week, I was like,
we're getting buried with this streak.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Like what are you going to do? I like Snapchat
almost needs to end as an app.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
In order to well That's what I said to her
as well. I'm like, what if we like dedicate our
lives to this and in two years Snapchat's like, hey,
we're done now?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yes, sorry. I feel like that's your only out I know,
but yeah, I just think if I save a boy,
like I think it has been probably quite a while
since the boys asked me for a Snapchat, but if
they do ask me immediate, No, I'm not interested in anymore.
Do you find such a sneaky I think it is
the I had a lot of issues with Snapchat with
my relationships because it's sneaky and things can be hidden

(09:54):
and messages get deleted, and I think a lot of
people cheat and have relationships they shouldn't. I in conversations
they shouldn't be having on Snapchat. I just don't like it,
and I think it's childish and pointless and I don't
like it.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Do you find the guys asking you for your Snapchat?
Are they on dating apps?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Like?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Is it a you meet on the dating app chat
chat Chat?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I honestly think I've probably been asked for Snapchat like
once or twice a couple of years.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Likely not, that's promising.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
And I just say I don't have it.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, i'd be lying you.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
I said the app is on my phone, guys, I
still have it, but I don't open it. And if
I get Snapchat from a boy, I'm like, yuck, what
are you doing? What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
And it's eleven pm.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, yack, I know. But I just think it's time
to go out of Snapchat.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I think it's almost I think it's a high school
trauma of it.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh. The high school trauma of it is when you
used to be able to see other people's best friends.
The younger of you won't remember this. When snapchat started,
if say Blake was in my friend's list, I would
be able to see the top three people he snapchats
the most, and it would change so of like someone
you'd get knocked out of someone's best friends, and it's
like it was such an issue because there might be

(11:01):
a boy you like and his top three best friends
are girls, and you're like, what the fuck. So I
just think I honestly hold a lot of resentment towards Snapchat,
so it needs to go totally.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
But we've grown past her.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
But people make bank on sap chat stories.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I don't understand this part. Chloe Kardashian those she works
over time.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah see I don't. Maybe I should sing exapt.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Sorry, I'm randomly friends with Chloe Kardashian and I'll get
the notification. Yeah yeah, yeah, we go way back. She
I get notifications whenever she posts a story. She has
someone working for her. Surely she's not how MG Kim's
twenty sixteen Matt look in love with this. I'm like,
you were doing this for.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
The bat, You're doing this for money, but like you
make really fucking good money on snapchats. That's insane, thousands
of dollars a day. Hmm, maybe I need to over.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
I'm keeping my streak.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, you never know. Okay, guys, So that was Blake
and Ie hear me arts this week, and as it's
my second solo app, I thought maybe we would go
through all of your hemats that you guys sent in.
I'm so excited to delve into them all. I feel
like they're so varied and I'm really really excited. But
obviously there is the link in my Instagram bio that

(12:18):
is constantly open for you guys to send more. So
if you ever think of one, it can be up
his take. It can be that Queen Elizabeth is a
lizard for all I care. Send it in. Let's get
into it. Okay, guys, hear me out. If you're actually considering,
like really weighing up pros and cons et cetera, breaking
up with someone, that means you should just break up.

(12:39):
I completely agree. Same, because if you love someone's like
so much and breaking up is completely out of the
realm of possibility, you're not making a pros and concept.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, and I don't think that's to say you can't
have moments of doubt or maybe moments where you think
through things. My girlfriend explains it really well. Actually I
shouldn't be saying this story because it's now broken up,
so it's not really a success or no, But in
her previously successful relationship, I feel like that explains it.
She is wildly avoidant. She said to me. Every day

(13:09):
I wake up and choose to be with him. I
wake up and make a conscious choice to choose to pay.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Like a lot of people say that about like marriage,
that marriage is every day. It's a choice.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, maybe it's actually such a really good excuse.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Maybe, But I'm like, if you've got such an issue
that you're like sitting down and writing out all the
good and bad things about someone, it's like, I just
don't think they're your person. They can be a great person,
and maybe they were a great partner and they still are,
but it's like, if you're having that level of doubt, yeah,
it's probably not the endgame for you.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, And I feel like in a relationship, you kind
of maneuver through it with probably a few things that
you're either holding onto or like a few potential red
flags or deal breakers, but you have to actually accept
them actively in a relationship. But if you're coming to
a point where you're listing things on paper and looking
at which list is bigger, that's.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, you've already gone save the ink, saved the baper. Okay,
hear me out. I genuinely think everyone should go through
one relationship with someone who ruins their life just a
little bit, like a toxic relationship to build character development. Well,
ideally it would just be one my tally's up to do.

(14:21):
I agree. I think it teaches you so much, and
it also teaches you what you don't want and how
to sort of maybe see the signs in future when
you're getting older and it maybe might be getting more
serious of something that you It kind of helps you
also see the red flags earlier on, Like I there
were red flags fucking throwing themselves at me, and I
just still was like, hmm, I'm good. I'm gonna stay

(14:44):
right right and thank you though, And I feel like
now in future, now that I'm older and I am
like looking obviously to have a relationship that hopefully ends
up being the guy, if there's there's those sort of
red flags coming at me, I'm gonna be like, yeah,
you're not the one.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, well, I do yourself with more. I didn't know
you when you had your past relationship you, but we
only talk about what you want in future, and I
dare say everything you say to me is so informed
of what you didn't want from your last exactionships like
that has informed everything for you.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I feel yeah, I feel like everyone needs a little
bit of character development, and a really really bad relationship
tends to do.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
That totally, like divance, a little bit of a toxic
if you don't have that. I'm only making excuses for
myself because my partner is actually my first and you're.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Like, my life is perfect, it's so good. Yeah, we
don't need that.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I do put it to I was dating beforehand and
have a lot of situationships, but this is like my
first proper relationship. If you at least don't have the
trauma of that, at least have like split parents or something,
you gotta have something.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I've got both.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, I feel like a little bit of heartbreak is
a good character. Yeah. Maybe not a like ruin your
life throw you for a loop toxic relationship, but just
a character maybe like when people go I've never broken
up with anyone I'm like, you need you actually need
to go back to the drawing one and start again,
because I feel like you need that sort of stuff.
You need to be knocked down a couple pegs in

(16:07):
a relationships since I mean, like, it makes you a beast.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
And there's nothing better than when your parents talk to
you about their twenties. Yeah, yeah, than that idiot Joe,
that nightmare ax, Like you need stories to tell.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
The care So my mum is obsessed with all of X.
She had like great relationships galaw, so my dad's probably one,
but we love them both. They're still good friends. So
I actually got really lucky with my parents divorcing that
we still did Christmases and everything together until like last year,
only because now they have they had partners. But like

(16:38):
my birthdays in and will be with both my parents,
mine was like kind of similar. Yeah, So we're very
lucky then in that sense, because that's not it's not common. Okay,
hear me out, guys. Deleting a post because it flopped
is self respective. I used to do this a lot
more than I do now, but with the algorithm of
dick doc sometimes you sometimes it just it just flops

(17:00):
and there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
True, I didn't think of it in a TikTok sense.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Instagram, I leave it. I will leave it because it
just kind of sits there. People will look at it
down the line anyway. I feel like people you go
back through other people's instagrams more, whereas TikTok is so
much is being posted all the time. I feel like
if it flops, it's flopped, and it's staying flopped and
it's just gonna go away. I will delete a TikTok
if it flops. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I feel like it's almost more socially acceptable on TikTok
because sometimes people re upload the videos anyway.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
And it's like it's a fucking thirst trap and it's
got ten likes. Like I'm getting rid of it.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Instagram, though it's a bit harder, and I feel like
as you get older, you just don't care. Yeah, for
these things, I care definitely more.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Like my I posted one yesterday and like, in my sense,
I guess it probably flopped a little bit, but I'm like,
it's a photo of me and my friend and I
look good, so I don't really care.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
It's a cup funny, Yeah, literally, you know, what I
mean when I did it on Instagram. I think the
thing that got me to stop doing it is when
someone liked the original post and then re liked the
one I re uploaded, and.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
You're like, they know I've done that. What I'm yea,
but yeah, TikTok, I'm not. I'm not above deleting a TikTok.
I think I do think it's self respect sometimes because yeah,
if it's a thirst strap or if it's too when
you're trying to be like really funny. Not that I'm like,
I don't post like funny things on TikTok like that,
but that would be hell, So I get it. Hear

(18:20):
me out. Having kids require a license, like driving. I
think that people should have to pass some sort of
test before they give birth, before they can get pregnant.
Can you look after a child? Can you bring it
into the world and have it be safe and comfortable?
Not comfortable, like obviously everyone lives a very different life,
but like, are use someone that wants to have a kid.

(18:42):
I feel like there's so many situations where kids get
neglected or they're with parents that never really wanted them,
and I just think that could all be avoided. If
parents actually had to like say yes, I want.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
A child totally. I've just thought of an idea as
you was speaking, and I'm petrified it's going to come
across in a really bad way.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
To me or to the listeners.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Everyone.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Just let's see how we go.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
So I think you should keep a history. And I'm
not at all saying that your kids are like pets
in no way, but I think you should have a
history of your pets. Yeh, their lives, how well looked
after they were, cause of death. Yeah, and that can
kind of inform.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Better because just the history of all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, just some reference points.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I just sometimes I see online I'm like that person. Like, no,
not online, but like more when you hear like I
listen to a lot of true crime, and like maybe
that's where I'm pulling more of this information from. Yeah,
because there's so many sad stories out there of parents
that just like weren't they shouldn't have been parents and
they didn't want to be parents, but they were.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, and so many facts that need to come into play.
It's not like some of these people have intentionally brought
a baby, and it's not a cookie cutter rule, no,
and you don't bring a kid in the world to
neglect them more hopefully, but like do you own Oh
my god, fingers crossed.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
There are people out there, honestly, but I just think, yeah,
I completely agree. You need to like you need to
like apply to have a license, just to be like, hey,
I want to kick Can I have this license?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
You need to send an application to is this hear
me out for, Yeah, can you have a kid, and
we'll veat them and go through them send.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
It's also like I'd be like, oh, no, that's already
a thing. I was gonna say old people need to
have tests to keep their license, but I think that
actually already happens. Actually it should happen more often. Like
my ninety one year old grandma's plotting around in a
car and I'm like, that should not be happening. She
said to dad. I'm like, Dad, don't you think it
might be timing maybe to let her know that she
shouldn't be driving that vehicle around anymore? Don't she re

(20:39):
ended someone the other day? And I'm like, that needs
to stop.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
You think I's ting to snip that.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
That? Okay, hear me out. I find my cousin extremely attractive.
Oh okay, I wonder if it's like, do people look
at their siblings? I personally don't, which is why I'm
asking this question. Do people ever look at their siblings
in a way and be like, that's like they're pretty,

(21:08):
but not find them attractive? Do you know what I mean?
Like be able to appreciate that they're like a good
looking human being, but not be attracted to them.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
When you say his delivery driver hot, you know how
on Uber each you see who your driver is and
you're like, hey.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
It's like airport hot. Yes, No, but like airport hot
is like when you're attracted to someone. I don't want
to put the word attracted and family member in the
same sentence. I don't go acting on it.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
No, this is just stressing me out.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
This is like like I don't know how well. I
don't actually know how to say anything.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
In response to this one, Can you anonymously take us
behind the thought train.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Here, like you're not you can. I think you can
find someone good looking but not be attracted to them.
I'm hoping it's not like I'm attracted to you.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Which is said extremely attractive. I'm going to fact and
it could be a guy as well. Yeah, extremely attractive.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Extremely is a lot too. It's not just attractive, extremely attractive.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Like I can honor when someone that I'm not attracted
to is good looking, handsome, beautiful. Yeah, but I don't know.
I've just never looked at it like.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
It's been like, oh, yeah, my cousin's really hot. No,
that felt that felt dirty coming out.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Of my mouth.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yes, and it keeps coming back, And I'm just there
was something about a cousin last week, wasn't that? Yes?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Is there something we're not across?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Is there like some I hope he's your third cousin.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I just hope they're wrong and it's not even their cousin.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
You're not related by blood.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
But get back to us, Get back to us.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, how close is this cousin? And are you attracted
to him? Or do you just think you can acknowledge
that he's a good looking guy?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, but with love, I will say, I don't think
we can approve. No, we don't approve.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
We appreciate your honesty, but we don't improve me. If
you post a breakup quote on your story, you should
be five hundred dollars. I am not someone that feels
like I when people like write things or share breakup
stuff like that, I never personally can understand it. I've

(23:19):
got my friends and stuff, and like best believe I
will dumb and traum it up and even talk on here.
But there's something about posting your sad quote to your
story that like I never quite get because you're only
doing it because you want your ecstasy. Eh, chances are
they're either block to not following you anymore, or they
are you looking for sympathy? Do you want them to message?

(23:40):
I just I honestly don't get it.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
And I think if you're going to post just bloody posts,
so it's either going to be a thirst trap.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, post a thirsty do you know what I mean?
Real them back here, make them jealous, absolutely, but don't
post like a quote saying how sad you are. That's
not helping out.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
And I also like some transparency, like we could actually
make this to hear me out in future. But people
are really against crying tiktoks, which I'm actually not really against,
but we can tackle that another day.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I wouldn't say I have a little sad.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Girl pick you know, she can post at the beach
reading a book looking a.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Bit looking at sad. I'm not against crying tiktoks. I
feel like when there's videos of people talking crying and
like explaining what they're upset about, Like I get that. Yeah,
but if it's crying just to a song with like
some sad quote over the top of it, that's I
think where I find it quite similar to posting a
break up quote. Yeah, that's honestly just my opinion though,
Like these are my opinions. You may feel completely differently.

(24:34):
You might think I'm being insensitive, but yeah, I personally
am not one that understands that you need to post
sad stories or Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I find quotes a bit of a parent thing, just
like quotes are very parent.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Like, let's be real, I get twenty cent to me
a date on Instagram by my mum fame. Yeah, that's
just what it's an adult it's a parent thing. It's
like a Facebook thing like.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Parents post question being a son or daughter, you need
to be really.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
You must be receiving inspirational quotes at least every day.
Videos of animals. That's what my mom sends me to.
Cat videos.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
My mom gets really red hot.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
She sometimes sends me videos of like hot guys and stuff.
I'm like, I'm thank you save, but yeah, I just
think there's better ways to show that you're I'm all
for a breakup, thirst Trap. Yeah, so I think if
that because even if the guy that you want to
respond doesn't, chances are someone else will at least give

(25:27):
you a little bit of a confidence boost act. But like, nothing,
no result of that sad photo is going to make
you feel any better, do you know what I mean?
Someone goes, how are you okay? It's like it's not
gonna help. No, I'm not looking though, looking here hot though,
thirst Trap always hear me out. I think boys actually
do understand now hints, they just ignore them on purpose.

(25:48):
I agree. Boys aren't that stupid?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Do you think?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
I think it's almost giving them a bit too much grace.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Maybe it is. But it's like if I'm chatting to someone,
it's like they probably know that if they asked me out,
I would go like, do you know what I mean?
I'm like, but they act on nonchalant. I didn't know
you want I would want to. I didn't know that
you were interested.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
It's like, well aware of the hints that you're dropping.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, I think boys do not yeah, And I think
they either want you to spell it out for them
to make them feel better about themselves and have that
little ego boost of having you directly say it to them,
or they want like it's an ego thing.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
I see that just wanting things done for them, wanting
you to do.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
The work, wanting you to do the work, or they're
just like not interested and they're ignoring it, which in
that case, I'm like, just say.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
It, which they could be slow ghosting, which is.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
They could be, but I feel like I'm quite good
at picking up on a slogost yeah, which in that case,
if someone's slowghosting you, you stop responding.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
I don't leprecate that.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Finish you know, you finish it first. God, I hate
this hate relationships hot take. If you get a tattoo
of your significant other, that relationship is bound to fail.
I actually don't agree or disagree on that. I think
I would love if my significant other kind of tattoo
for me, but I think it all depends on when

(27:06):
they're getting it. If you get it once you're married,
I think it's kind of sweet. But if you get it, like, oh,
let's just get a tattoo, like three months in, I'm like, no,
you just think it's I think it's to ink your
skin with something like that without even being together for
an extended period of time. I think it's silly. But
it's totally up to each and every person.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I totally agree. I think it depends because like I've
seen couples on my feed and like both of them
like Mickey Mouse, they've got a Mickey Mouse tattoo.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
I yeah, sometimes it's kind of cute, like I would
not be opposed to my partner getting a tattoo of me.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, but then I see.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
That's act.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
But like with some couples they get a date or
something really symbolic.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, like they're waiting date or something.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I can get around that.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, if it's done well, if it's done well, and
if it's not big, yes, yeah. In something sentimental, it's cute,
not like possessive, like yeah, mine Isabelle, like across your fucking.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Name, Pete and Cam all right, Peter, remember when Pete
got but.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
That was all like that's a situation where I'm like,
you didn't need.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
To get that so early and stamped into you.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, it's to their own but so yeah, well that
worked out. I also think it's just then it's like,
just think it through a little bit more, because if
you do break up, it's embarrassing now that you have
a tattoo of your excess name on you. I think
getting their name also though, it was very different to
getting a tattoo that is like a shared tattoo that's
like of something else that's sentimental to both of you,
you know what I mean. Yeah, I feel like that's

(28:31):
cuter then, like the name is almost a possessive thing,
which once again I wouldn't be opposed to my partner
getting out.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, and just so vert like I don't think you
need anything over Yeah. But I like when someone that
I know will like they're next to me and they
grab the go to grab something and you see something
on their wrist and like, oh, that's so pretty.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
What's that like? Just that level that level cute kiss,
the level anybody hear me out. Eighty percent of people
are just in relationships because they can't be on their own.
People are staying in awful relationship. It's such young ages
because they're too scared of the unknown, and it is
killing dating culture. As a single girl, I truly find
it so hard to find a relationship I envy. I

(29:10):
you know, I actually do agree. I think there's a
level of comfort that a lot of people, even people.
There are people I know, not particularly like, not like
any of my good friends, but like people that I'm like,
I cannot believe you two are still fucking dating, yeah,
because it's like you have probably one of the worst
relationships I've ever seen. But it's like they've been together
like five years, and it's they're probably just scared to
be with anything else. So I think that's it's it

(29:32):
would be so common because there is always going to
be the fear of unknown, and if you have him
for someone with so long or so long from such
a young age, like I can sympathize with that fear.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, I went to say at the start, I feel
like it's not as true anymore, but I think I
already take that back. But like I look to a
lot of my parents, friends, parents, women in their forties
or fifties who are like now just getting rid of them,
and it's a comfort thing for PEO marriage or relationship
that they you know, got into when old twenty one,

(30:04):
because like our parents, I don't know about yours years,
but like, my mom had me, and I'm the youngest
by twenty five. I'm not thinking about kids.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Right, twenty five. Yes, your brother's or sister's twenty five
years older than you.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
No, my mom had me. I was the youngest. She
had me at twenty five with my sister, like twenty two,
twenty three.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Oh, I thought you said you said I'm the youngest
by twenty five.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, my mom's one hundred and four.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, she got that letter from Queen Elizabeth.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, oh yeah, she's all around at this well. But
I think it was so common for people back in
that day to get married really young and just stay
in those relationships. Now you see a lot of women
in their forties and fifties now leaving, and I think
that's probably informed our generation better because a lot of
my girlfriends say, date with so much more intention now, yeah,

(30:52):
and they date purely based off what they want.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, I feel like we date with intention at this age.
But there are those people that got in the relationship
when they're eighteen that I know, and I'm like, you
guys are not fucking happy. But that's all you know
in your adult life is to be with that person.
To the prospect of being alone or the fear of
what if it takes me ages to find someone else.
It's like, that would be so scary. So I do
understand it, but I think it's frustrating to watch sometimes

(31:17):
because you just look at people and you're like, you
guys fucking hate each other, Like you guys should not
be dating.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
You could just be living a completely different life.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, but they would be scared. And I completely understand.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
And I've been there before where I was like, I'm lonely.
I need a relationship just purely because of that.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
So I yeah, but I think I couldn't. Like sometimes
I'm like, oh, surely I can just like find someone
and just like date them. I'm like, I can't do that,
Like I really really need to be into the personal.
I did not want to be around you, Like I
couldn't say live. I wanted to know because I just
can't put myself around people that I don't really.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Like, and you're wasting potentially years.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, exactly. I get a relationship for the sake of
it completely. Like if I start a relationship now and
I'm it for like three years, but it's not the person,
and then I probably have to be single for a
little while after that. Again, I'm like, I'll be like
thirty we.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Ever recording in two days. Can you just like bring
a boyfriend in on Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Can you bring me one?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Thanks? Say all right? Hear me out. I'm a teacher
and I don't believe that every child should get a
prize like a participation rubben sort of thing. I think
participation rubbons are sweet.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah. Literally is someone who did not go well, I
want that participation. Yeah. And even like my niece has
just gone into kindergarten, she does not like sports, Like
when she had her athletics kind of she said to
my mom, She's like, I'm going to be the spectator
for the day, Like so cute. I need a photo
of her with a ribbon.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah. I think until at least primary school, I get
participations like I get the prizes for kids. And then
once you know you're older and people understand more that
school is competitive and grades are competitive and all that stuff,
then no, you don't need to give.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Everything, guys.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
But I think when you're trying to get kids to
love what they do, if you pin everyone against each
other from the jump, I feel like it creates a.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Bad environment totally. And like understand this is coming from
a teacher, so she's probably like had little shits.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
She probably she would know a lot more than me.
If you say that, babe, there's a reason you're saying, yeah,
I'd like to know more. Like why don't you think
every kid gets a surprise?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
But let's put a time on it. I say, I
think your two is a good like I feel like
kinder one, you're still you don't really know what's going on.
You two, you're starting to gether.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
I think everyone should get a participation ry but and
then you have first, second, third, Yeah, so then what's
the harm is that it's smart get both, but everyone
else gets something?

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, like what is the harm? Yeah, unless it's like,
what is the harm? I'm curious they could be like
environmental for the ribbons, but the brain.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
That's why I she said that hilarious? All right, hear
me out. Mums should have one hundred percent say in
naming their baby. None of this fifty to fifty bullshit.
We're carrying it for nine months, putting our bodies under
immnt stress with labor and burning the child my HUDs
and doesn't like the name I choose at bad Luck.
I like it. I like the energy, but I actually disagree.

(34:05):
I think tell eighty twenty, maybe like you should pick
all the names you like and the husband gets to
pick one out of the names that you like. They
don't get to put a name in themselves.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, because twenty two is you do want the partner
to be involved, because you also don't want to be
with a husband that doesn't give a shit.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
And the moment the baby's out, it's their kid, like
it's both of your kids. So I get I think
maybe a nice even fair is you get to pick
all of the options and he can help pick between
the options.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Final say, you know, if they have to make a
big decision if they're stuck between two.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah. I also, you know what I really like, I'm
not a fan of when people name their kids after themselves,
like Jack Junior or Jack the Third. I'm like, can
you not do that? I think that's cruel unless like,
imagine having the third following your name as a fucking kid.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I went to say, unless like you've achieved X, y Z,
but even then, like.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
If you're well, don't and then it's like like Brad
Pitt Jr. Slave that words. Yeah, I just think unless
it's like, say, my name is Isabella and I named
my kid Bell, you know what I mean, it's like
a part of my name. I think that's more ideal.
But like naming your kid like many times and it's

(35:20):
all the same name and it ends up being Jack
the fourth Jack the face like an inspired middle name. Yeah,
middle name something to do. Like my middle name is
my mum's middle name and my grandma's name family, so
it's like, yeah, we're connected through that. But it's like,
my name's not Heidi. No, it's my middle name. I
would love my name to be Heidi. I think I
look like a Heidi.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
No, you're such an izzy.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I hate that name. Sorry all the easies out there,
but I get to say that because it's my name too.
But I'm not a fan of it. Okay, next here
me telling your ex heavy birthday is always a bad idea. Probs,
I agree, I because I did it. I've done it
many times, not recently, but like when I was younger,
and I always ended up disappointed because I've done it

(36:03):
to get that contact with them back, like.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
To have a little and then they just yeah, and
they hold the power that one day of the year.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, because if they don't reply, you're like, why did
I do that? You beat yourself up? Why have I
done that?

Speaker 2 (36:16):
And if they come back blunt, Oh, they're busy, it's
their birthday, Like, I actually.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Can't get why do they need to reply. They've just
gotten all they wanted by you sending.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Their message to that And I think this real power
And you're not sending up And I'm going, should she
already forgot about my birthday?

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Why didn't she care? She didn't text me?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
That only for girls.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Boys can text the ex because it's polite, it's a gentle,
it's a general, but girls can't. I completely agree with you.
It's it's never been a good idea for me. I
don't think I've ever gotten the text back exposing myself here. Okay,
hear me out. Living with your partner, but having separate
rooms should be normalized. I do not want boy drums

(36:56):
on my bed after a long day. I don't want
my room to be filled with boys. Air. I end
up like, I actually I agree, I'm not like I'm
someone I love. I was talking to this, talking to
my friend Hannah about this the other day. I don't
want to be cut a little. I'm trying to sleep,
I get before I'm going to sleep, or in the

(37:16):
morning when I'm like waking up, but the moment my
eyes are shut and I have every intention of falling asleep,
don't fucking touch me. Really, Yeah, I wish I was different.
I just it's always of radiators, like they exude so
much heat, and I'm like, I feel I'm someone that
tosses and turns a lot. Like I've actually got a
very specific pattern to the way that i do that

(37:37):
because of my O city, Like I always have to
start with one side for a certain amount of time
and then I it's and then I always have to
go back to my middle after anyway, it's a nightmare.
But I can't do that if I've got a five
a ten kilo arm on my shoulder. Yeah, and then
I just feel like I'm trapped and I makes your heart. Yeah,
my pregnancy, I'm Bobby Man. Some people love that, but

(38:02):
I'm like, yeah, boys and Germany.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, I don't want to like disagree fully, and then
it comes back to bite me in a few years
where I'm like I'm in my own little room. I
feel like I think I would struggle, but I would
like my own space that I can just like make
my own because me and my partner have very different
tastes in like furnishings, styling.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Even having your own rooms, but you sleep together everything,
say one of your rooms, like you have that extra
sort of space. I completely I don't think it should
be taboo, like, I think it should be normalized, Like
it's not gonna be probably common because a lot of
people want to be with their skimpula other all the time,
and that's great. And hopefully one day when I'm with
someone that I really love and like, I probably won't

(38:43):
want to be separated either. But yeah, because my relationships,
like we've said, weren't great, it's like I envision that
and go, yeah, my own space sounds really fucking good
right about now?

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah yeah that cheetah.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah, I can get your own room. Germs yuck. So
I get it. And I think it's it's becoming more
normal for like even married people to like sleep in
separate repeat, especially if you have really differing work schedules.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I would love to know, and I feel like there
would be research about this so we can follow up
on this in the future what it actually does for
a relationship.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
If it's beneficial. Yeah, it probably is. I'd say it.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Would be depending who.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, because you just got a good sleep every night.
Some people need to sleep like like having someone next
to them. Yeah, that's just not me, but maybe one
day it will be to see me out. Men who
have led lights in their room are dangerous. I feel
like anyone that has led lights and they were like
I actually used to have lad lights in the room
and I loved the vibe of it. They weren't colorful though,

(39:41):
they were just like a work and white and I
liked having them on and nothing else. So that was
like reading. I feel like it very much goes back
to covid TikTok vibes.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, so I've only my current boyfriend used to have
LED lights and I've kind of moved them out.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I actually I've never dated anyone with elide lights just
they don't know how to do it. My except fairy lights,
it's kind of cute. I loved them though, So it's
like because it's on Beyonce, Yeah, they would be the
only thing on while by watching TV, and I like
st like, I'm not I don't like halsh slighting. It's
like when you sit and watch TV on the couch,

(40:17):
I always I can't have the lights off. I have
to have the on beyond lighting on, like the lamps
have to be on.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, like when you're reading, you turn the overheads off,
but you have your bedside lights on. Like that is
such a peaceful vibe for me.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, I think it's really sweet putting in the effort, Yeah,
trying to get that.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
But maybe if it was blue, i'd feel differently.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, I feel like every time a guy does it,
it's to see exact same scenario of like the fifteen
dollar KMA and.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
It's always blue. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be sitting
in a room watching TV with blue lights.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
It's either blue or like multi colorick.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
It's an ick. Now, it depends your age. I also
think like if you've moved out home, like sometimes they're
just in your room and they've been in there for
years and you're just not going to take them off
the wall because they're already there like together. But if
I like went to a guy's house and he moved
out like six months ago, when he had led lights
and he was twenty five I'd be like, huh.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Can we talk about this?

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah? What's this? Who did this? Because I can't imagine
him like going and sticking them all up. But honestly,
it's self expression. Do whatever you want. Yeah, I'm not
two guys about lights in room.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
One of the less lesser harmful.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
It's less harmful. I honestly I'm not too fust. I
just don't want it to be a color. Yeah, Like
you can have the color on in your.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Own time and make it make sense.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Like sometimes there's a random shape on the roof.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's just like a little line half one of the walls.
I'm like, that's that might be done that. Well, guys,
that was hear me out with all of your hear
me outs. I love you all. Next week we have
a guest. I'm really excited.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Should we say who it is?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
I won't say who it is? Well, give hm a
little lain Okay. So I love reality TV and one
of my favorite things is finding out the behind the
scenes to the way certain reality TV shows run and
what it was like being on that show, what the
process was to get on there, etc. So we've got
a reality start one of my friends coming on and
we're gonna talk about behind the scenes of the show

(42:08):
that she was on, so I'm really excited. Tune in
next Thursday, every Thursday, six am to hear me out.
I love you, Bie,
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