August 13, 2025 • 39 mins
Welcome back to Hear Me Out! We have my sister Riley back in the hot seat to answer part 2 of your 'Am I The Asshole' submissions. Plus, we unpack what's been going on and something that I haven't yet addressed online or the podcast, but I give you some reasons now as to why the time is right.
Thanks for the love as always and I can't wait to bring you a fun and juicy episode next week! Xx
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I saw photos of his ex very much still his
girlfriend holding up an ultrasound captioned, we.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Can't wait to meet you.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello, guys, welcome back to hear me Out.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We have our semi regular guests. We'll work again.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
She's going to be expecting to make a paycheck off
this bad voice.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Surely, surely that's coming. That's an home discussion.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay, We've got Riley, my sister back on. We are
doing a part two basically of last week's episode was
so much fun and we got so many submissions, and honestly,
like hearing if you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Are the arsehole makes me feel better. Yeah, yeah, it does,
it really does.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
So I just want to dive straight into the hemeouts
to get things started because.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We have a lot to cover this week. That was evil,
that hear.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Me Out, No, because this is something I'm really passionate
about this sooner. Okay, hear me out for this week
is that pigeons Our responsibility.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Elaborate.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So I'm sure everyone's heard like the law I mean birds, pigeons, pigeons,
the birds, yea, the story about how we domesticated pigeons
and then just fucked them off.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You know, I haven't actually had.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, oh well here we go. Okay, I'm sure I
think a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Of people do know this.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But basically, pigeons, way back when, probably in the Middle Ages,
they were used to deliver messages. Actually they were, Actually
they were, so we domesticated, Yes, we domesticated them.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
We taught them how to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We kept them in cages, we fed them, and then
we you know, we taught them whatever. Yeah, we didn't
need pigeons anymore because male became a thing like human
male like post mail, like post like postman like males
actually started living, so we just used men for it.
I didn't actually mean that, I know that. Yeah, okay,
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male m a I l And we stopped needing pigeons
and we fucked them off. And now pigeons that's why
they're like the rats of the city. They live off
our scraps because they do not know how to do
anything for themselves. The way they build nests is really
really sad. But I'm seriously, the ability to for pigeons
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to like fly male across and stuff like that surely
long died out with all the newer cuse like they've
just learned to do nothing.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, they've learned to do nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
They don't know how to forage for themselves because they
were fed and kept in cages. But does that matter
if they eat us?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Nubs for feet? No toes? What I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So many pigeons don't have toes, but so many seagulls
don't have toes.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's not true. I've been paying attention to this.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Wait, all seagulls have, majority of them one footed seagulls.
Every time one footed seagulls because they tuck their foot up,
because I did at touch of this yesterday. They tucked
their feet up to keep their body warm, so they
sleep one.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I love them love birds.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Every time we go anywhere, I talk about how bad
I feel for the pigeons, I talk about pigeons. I
have known you for twenty five years, and never once
have I heard you talk about probably because you wouldn't
really receive it as well with some other people.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Okay, either way, I care about pigeons.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
They should be our responsibility and we need to start
doing something about it. What would you like to be
that pigeon home? That can be what you do when
you grow up. It can be and I've actually i've
told Tessa about this. That is something that I'm considering
doing when I'm really wealthy and older.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I'm going to create a picture.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay, when you're really wealthy and older, so you don't
care enough to use it as your dying job. Save
the pigeons only if you're.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Really, really, really I know I'm going to be really wealthy.
I'm just manifesting it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
When you did the lions Gate Portal manifestation, did you
manifest a pigeon home? Because that's going to happen anyway,
so you don't care. When I did the lines get
pulled on manifestation, I only manifested things for the next
year or two and then the next lines gate.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Then I go a little bit first.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay, so what the lions Gate Portal is for those
of you don't know, Actually, Riley will probably explain it
a little bits a day. Each day each year, on
the eighth of the eighth, which is the eighth of August,
it's like the best day for manifestation. Manifestations come to fruition,
the luckiest manifestation the other day. The veil is like
the thingils with thinness. Yeah, between we don't know. We
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don't know what. We don't know the veil between line
and lap, but we were concerned about what type of
people we were. Yes, I lay on my bed with
all my Lion toys on my lap. That wasn't a
necessary thing, but I do have a lot of Lion toys,
and I was like lions Gate Portal, like, put the
line toys on my lap, play the five twenty eight
Hurtz YouTube sound, which is good for manifesting. And by
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the time I was done, I'd been doing it for
twenty six minutes and I felt really excited.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, it's really exciting, and now those things are going
to happen. Yeah, they are quick.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Side note this is a PSA for everyone that owns
a metal water bottle.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Metal water bottle.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
If you put like liquid IV drinks in it, like
electro clean it more regularly. I have been getting so
sick for the past like month, and I am not
I'm a clean girl generally, I am, but there's something
about cleaning frank green water bottles that like doesn't appeal
to me, Like I'm not as good at doing that
as I was alive to me, do you know what
(05:15):
I mean? I clean the straw a lot, but like
do I take it out and clean the whole inside
of the lid in the bottle? Not as much as
like it's like, how often do you wash a bra?
Not anywhere near as often as you should want, probably less.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
To be honest, I.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Don't really wear bras anymore. No, neither I do wath
it more. Just those cool girls that just like just
like anyway, I checked my drink bodel as saying, I'm like,
honestly have been sick for weeks and the whole thing
is covered in mold all up on the inside like
like black. I've thrown out so many water back and
(05:54):
I was like, oh my god, I'm just gonna chuck
it in the dish washow rather goes put that in
the fucking bin. My easy who trained me, was like,
I can't believe you have not just thrown that right
in the mint. So I've just ordered a new one.
But I'm also saying that is in if you do
put stuff that isn't water in that drink bottle, check
it more regularly, because if you're getting sick, it's probably fun.
I could have told you that I've thrown out well
you didn't. Yeah, well you never asked I did. If
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I thought enough to ask about it, I would.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Have checked it. If I ever caught you putting liquid
IV in your drink bottle.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It since before my nose job, and I can tell
you that I haven't washed that.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Bottle as Wow, that's disgusting. I washed the lid like
I washed it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Need to wash your water bottle if you're just putting
water in it, you really don't mean. I rinse it
out after everything, like I just like swirl it around,
but that doesn't hit the lid and the lid like
the upper part of the bottle and outside of the lid.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah. Yeah, it was nasty.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So when I get home, I'm curious to see how
much of the mold is gone from the dishousher.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But I am just going to throw it outuck it anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So we have a listener hear me out and it's
Chad Michael Murray could be a cult leader, like a
cult leader. And if you guys don't know who that
is is Lucas on One Tree Hill. He's you know,
one of those like sexy sort of two thousands guys.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
That wasn't Yeah, he definitely in his older age looks like.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
He Google him now and you'll actually see like he
does if you dyed his hair brown.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
He's like Jesus vibes. I think it's the blondness that
makes him look like a cult leader.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Really, yeah, I reckon, it's his face, his eyes, they're
getting beadier, they're getting deader. Yeah, yeah, there is no guy.
Yeah no, I totally see that. And to be honest,
I would follow Chad Michael Murray in a cult me too. No,
he's when he was younger, for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But now no. So have you seen Gilmore Girls?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But I know what he looks like in Goodmore Girls.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, but out of like you know, there's like the
three heart throbs on Gilmore Girls. I know the three guys.
It's Dean, Dean, Dean, mine's Jesse. But Dean's tall and
hot and dark and wears like leather jackets, and he
was he was cute. Jesse was like smarter, definitely more
the type of person for Rory.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Rory didn't deserve any of these people.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
No, Rory is the Rory Gilmore is the fucking problem. Yeah.
I haven't even seen the Rory Gilmore.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You know what's actually funny is when I was going.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I heard hear Mom playing Gilmore Girls like all the
fucking time, and I couldn't stand.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So listen to me. I know that's what I feel
when you're playing.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, because like, unless you're actually actively watching a show,
sometimes the sound of the show is quite because they're
going like na, na the whole there's not a single
break in there, And like, I'm not here to judge
certain toned voices because like I know that we have
unusually low voices. Yeah, Rory Gilmore's voice hits a note
in my ear that I can't quite stand. But that's
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only when I'm not actually actively watching it. But then
I did give in and watch it, and I love it.
It's a comfort show of mine now. But like the
more I slowly watch it, like the more I just
want to fucking punch Roy gil More in the head,
I think I've.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Accepted I'm never watching it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
There's also Logan, the blonde one from me, No, but
I don't. He's not my type. No, so he was
never really in the picture for me. No, Jesse's my favorite.
Any true Girl or Girls fan will.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Agree that Jesse's the one.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Fir.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, I'm not a tricking more girls fan, I think
let's watch it.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
No, thanks, okay, okay, So what did you get up
to this weekend? This weekend, I had my best friend's birthday. Yeah,
and it was really fun. It was I thought you're
about to do like and it was lit. It was
so like what you would say. And I cannot drink anymore.
I went home way earlier than I usually do, and
(09:39):
the next day I wanted to die. I actually tracked
when you went home, Yeah, like twelve thirty. No, yep,
I noticed you just en route to Tessa's, like it
takes a while to get to Tessa's house.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But no, we left.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
We waited outside the Emerson got in, and then as
soon as you walked in, we left.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You sometimes I just walk into it like the Emerson
to me is.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Like and we were just like, hold on, we don't
want this right now, and then we left. You have
to be like really in the move of the Amazon
even then, like Amazon is not.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Somewhere I think.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I do not regularly go right for a boogie. You
go there actually more than I probably do. I've been
there once in the last year, but I did enjoy
myself that one time.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
That one time.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, not enough to go back in the year. No, no, yes, yeah,
I stayed. I went to the same thing as Riley
Riley's friend's birthday, and then I ended up saying at
bars and then went to a house. Like you guys
work with the Amazon. I'm like, I can't hug that tonight,
Like I'm not. I'm not much of a dancer. I
prefer to sit and yeah and talk about myself. All yeah,
(10:46):
is he does love to chat about herself. Oh my god,
I was joking and now you're just being I was.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Kind of drinking too, as a really little smirk. Anyway, No,
I love a boogie. I love a chat, but then
a dance is just yeah. Well obviously wasn't hitting. Yeah, didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But funnily enough, the night before, wait, how was your weekend?
So my weekend was interesting?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Thank you for asking.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
The night before, I went out with a couple of
my girlfriends. Haven't seen them in ages. I was in
the best fucking mood because of the lions Gate portal.
Like I just manifested my streamline and I saw it
coming into fruition and I'll explain what I was manifesting,
and like what I'm planning on doing next year, which
I'm really excited for after I get this little hump
out of the way. So what hump, I'll explain. I
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went out with my friend Angel and a couple of girls,
and Angel was like, oh, I've got some girls from
work that are coming. By the way, one of them
slept with your ex boyfriend. I'm like, okay, great, that's fine.
They were lovely girls, like, no disrespect to them. That
was actually so much fun. It was all really great.
And then one of the girls mentions to me that
my ex boyfriend seems to be feeling the need to
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go and tell all the girls he goes and sleeps
with that I'm musing him for Cloud Great, and then
I'm like, a man, what man, who is the asshole?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Not me?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
The ex boyfriend is the asshole. And I think is
he needs clout? I don't think I need Cloud from
you either. It's like, obviously, yeah, I was previously tied
to him. It's gonna be something that people are aware of. It, Like,
I'm not out here regularly constantly making fucking videos about
this man ever, really talk really, And I think I
spent a really long time trying to protect him in
the sense of like not being fully open on here
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about what he'd done to me and like how it
all went down, just because there is still that level
of respect for someone that you loved. But it's like,
when did I get any of that respect back? Even
when we were together? But it's like, if he's telling
this one girl that I happened to run into on
this night, you're probably telling every fucking Tom Dick in hurry.
And it's like that is honestly just not the case.
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And so I'm like, gloves are off, like game on.
I'm gonna I texted Blake and Riley and I'm like, uh,
we're gonna say what everything that went?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Tell not even a tell all.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
But it's like I feel I'm sitting here like blabbering
because I'm unsure around like what you want to say?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
What I want to say.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I'm just like I want to write to know that
like that boy put me through the fucking ringer one
hundred times over, and like, because I'm an empathetic person,
they could just cry and apologize and I'll be like,
you put it up to mental health. You put it
up to them being in a bad place, and you're like, oh,
it's Okay, I forgive you, because like someone that you
love and is like convincing you of all these things.
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Like the manipulation was like on a level I've never had.
And I'm like, oh, he's in a bad place, like oh,
you know, that's why he's done these things whatever, like Okay,
I'll try again.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And it's like bruh, this fuck. Sometimes you're just an asshole.
I remember.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Actually this is actually really funny, and I'll tell you, guys,
are this part of the story maybe just today. But
I was working at Lulu Lemon and I finished at ten,
and I was working in the city, and a couple
of days before, we'd had this girl message me. Wee
being me like, I'm talking about me and a couple
of my friends. This girl reached out to me and said,
my friends left with your boyfriend while he was in
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Adelaide for a game. And I'm like, oh my god,
heart sinks, Oh my god, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You know?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And then it was a friend of the girl that
actually texted. So one of my girlfriends was like, I'm
gonna follow the girl that supposedly was and message her
and see if I can get more information. It's very
much in denial at this point, and I'm like, you,
I could have, yeah, probably just believed it in that
moment in time and said yeah that he did do that.
But I'm like, I'm so in love right now, I
need more to like allow myself to believe this, you
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know which, in hindsight, never in my life growing up,
did I think I'd be in a relationship where like
I would potentially accept someone cheating on me, you know
what I mean, Until you're faced with that head on
and it's like, I don't know if I can leave you. Yeah,
And it was really a sad, scary moment for me
that I wasn't like what I thought I was, or
I wasn't as strong as I thought I was. Anyway,
my friend messaged this girl. She ended up responding, so
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I was at work finished at ten, I didn't get
any messages. I'm like, in the best mood. Call my
boyfriend at the time. I pick up some ingredients for
fucking pizza. We're gonna make pizza when I get home.
I drive home and all of a sudden, I get
a call from my best friend.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
When I pull out the front.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Of his house, she goes, where behind you parked right
now out in the front of your boyfriend's house.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Get in our car.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And I turned around and I'm like, what the fuck
they actually are, like they'd driven there. They didn't want
to tell me or call me because they would know
that I would freak out, and like I was driving
from the city and like they were like, we just
wanted to be able to talk to you in person,
which is really fucking sweet. And so I get in
their car. They show me all the messages. Yeah, he's
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like fucking photos and everything.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Like you've fucking done it.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, yeah, and he could track me and see that
I was there. I mean, he was like, you're just
sitting in your car, like what are you doing? And
he like comes out and I'm like, you fucking did
it on me and he's like, no, I didn't, Annoy didn't.
And the girls are like, do you need us to stay?
I said, look, I'll go in, I'll talk to him,
don't leave if I'm still in there, and like twenty minutes,
like you can go, but they're like, we want to
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wait and see if you need help, Like, because obviously
they're not assuming I'm gonna fucking stick around. It ends
up being a me problem, you know what I mean,
the way it ends up being spun, I ended up
probably fucking apologizing. It got just he just got angry.
It all got a shit. It was a shit show.
He ends up crying. I end up being like, fuck,
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I'll just say, convinces me that's not the case. People
lie about me all the time because of who he is,
la l la, And for some reason or another, I
ended up being like, you believed him? Okay, I, in
my heart of hearts didn't, but I didn't know what
to do, and I didn't yet know in that moment
whether I was ready to let it go. And like
so I'm like, I'm going to pretend, like in my mind,
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try and convince myself that I do believe him, And
like that was a really hard turning point for me,
where I'm like, who the fuck am I? Right?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And my friends I'm embarrassed, Like my friends are sitting
out there and I text them saying I'm gonna say,
like that was brutal, do you know what I mean?
And he ends up fucking by and being like, oh.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You're just so cute.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You got like Bocconcini and tomatoes and thought we were
just gonna be having like a nice pizza making night
and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Oh, and then you cheated on me and ruined the
whole fucking thing.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I got a bed without my homemade fucking pizza, and
that was the worst part of it all. I don't
seriously that would have gotten to you the most. But
I mean, I don't understand how people can like cheat
and then sleep next to their partner and be like, yeah,
I'm a good person.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And like and crying. Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
She just was crying because he was like, you're so cute.
Like he went and got my bags from my car
and all the ingredients and the groceries that I'd gotten
for our fucking dinner, and he was so sad that
I was just so cute that I'd gotten fucking Boco Genie. Look,
it's in for a really long time, and like, I
just want people to know it's not for clout for me.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
It's more just like, this is.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
My experience of what I went through, And honestly, I
think it plays a huge part into why I am
still single, Like going through not one, but two really
hard relationships when neither of the mem will loyal to you,
like makes it really hard to trust and move forward
in a relationship. And I think I haven't told it
out of protection, but like there's no mutual respect anymore
between us.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So it's like, why am I still doing that.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I have this platform now, I'm honest with you guys
about everything. This is the huge part of my life
that I think mays me who I am now, Like.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Fuck it, hello, fuck it.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Like I just also want to say, never once have
I named the guy. I think Sam once named him
on Just for Girls and I was like, oh, fuck,
like we're doing that now, Like I never had the
intention of doing that. Even now, I'm still not fucking
saying his name. One knows who he is or you know.
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It's like this whole podcast has always been about you know,
you guys and your submissions and your stories and your life.
And I'm like, this is a big part of my life.
And it's like, if I wanted to do it for Clout,
I could have launched me Out with the fucking story
about him. I could have launched Just for Girls with
stories about him because I know all the submissions even
nowadays that I get what happened between you and so
and so what happened between you and so and so?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
That is a constant and I think it always will be.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So. Yes, we didn't actually break up, then what happened
to lead to our breakup, in.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
My opinion, was far fucking worse than that.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And I'm just a girl and I only have so
much give in me before I'm going to fucking snap
as someone's talking about you, especially something that isn't true. You, well,
after what I've done for that fucking guy. Yeah, here's
something that is fucking true.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
There you go. What can you say about that? It's
that is exactly how it went down.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You're gonna go tell people I'm doing that. Oh wait,
you already are. So this makes no difference in my life. Yeah, okay,
good riddans with you the best anyway, moving forward, I
feel like I have learned so much in those two relationships,
and I fully believe that my next one, you know,
I will not make the same mistakes again, and the
guy that I go for will not be the same
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mistake again.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
No, and even if they did, which because you can't
control the people, I feel like you know how to
handle it a lot better this. Yeah, And it's like
everyone like it is like, oh, why would you date him?
It's like I knew him since we were kids, like
we grew up together. So I didn't see him as
what everybody everyone else does. So it's like I didn't
go into it being like oh classic, like obviously he's
going to do this, Like you sometimes feel like it's
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going to be you know, I've known him for so long,
it's going to be different.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Never is. So.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
On another note, I had a menty bee quarter, a
life crisis pretty well immediately the moment I anyone, yeah,
almost instantly, almost instantly, and I have decided that I
think the right decision for me is to move, not move.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
See.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I have a funny thing about people saying they're moving
somewhere when it's like, but you are very temporary. Well,
I'm going to live hopefully not hopefully. We're saying it
like it's happening. I'm living in New York for a
couple months next year. I don't know how long that's
going to be. I think I'm going to start with,
and then I kind of want to go to Europe.
Ideally it's April to June then Europe, and then I
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want to come back and stay with another friend over
like Halloween and stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Because in New York.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah yeah, And I just feel like, now that I've
got that in my mind, I'm like, that is such
a good move.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It feels like the right move. And when I was manified,
Halloween is.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
October, end of October, so that's a long time to
be there.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It is a long time.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
That's more than a couple of months. If I don't
like it, I don't stay. And I think that's you know,
I'll book you know, one way ticket there. I'm lucky
that I will have hopefully some friends there that I know,
And being in this world is almost really lucky because
you can kind of get in contact with people that
you see online that live there and like kind of
make friends with them.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But I just feel like I need to change.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I'm really stagnant in my life right now, and I'm
like seeing all these people live all these amazing lives
overseas and like Europe, I think Europe summer, and like
seeing all your friends like me in Europe like makes
you feel like what the fuck.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Am I doing? My hands aren't tied.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm so blessed to have a job that I can
do it from remote, like do it elsewhere. I'm like,
it scares the shit out of me. And that's why
I've never really considered it because like living in another country,
I never really knew if I could leave behind my
family and my friends and cat and my cat. But
Riley said, she'll look after my cat. Everyone, like, you
do not need to worry about Bobby.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That girl is.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
All she does is just drop little poos everywhere. That's okay,
and eats. But she's like, she's like mummy, he said.
I don't drop little poos everywhere. I just also like eating.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
She does she does.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That was one in my room and oh my god,
do you remember when we were younger, and like, oh,
I remember I came we came up from the movies
or something, and there was a human size poo on
my floor in my room. Yes, and it wasn't me,
but I and I knew it wasn't me because it
just wasn't me, and we could not figure out who
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it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Everyone's like, it's Georgie, your cat. That is not a
cat poo. That was a human poo.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And to this day we do not know who shot
in my room. I totally happened no, not a psycho.
Casey wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Mum. There was a pool on my floor, a human poop.
I do remember that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
That was It was like the mystery of the Armitage family,
like a year anyway.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I metage.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Is that how you've been saying armitage? It's actually pronounced No,
it's armitage apparently, but there's no way worse armitage, armitage, armitage.
I don't know why I said that. Sounds a bit
more regal though, doesn't it armitage? No? Anyway, that's a
little how to on how to pronounce our name with
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no ending or proper answer.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's armored.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It is armitage, but we say armitage because we sound
like not armorage.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It's armitage. That's what it actually is.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
If we're doing it by definition, it's armitage, but we
say we say armitage, and apparently you say armoritage. Sometimes
either way, we're moving on. Should we get into this
hasn't been as funny this week as the normal.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's been more serious.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, sorry, guys, but sometimes you know, life isn't always
all funny games.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
If you listen to this podcast and expect to be human.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Sometimes you're just gonna be hit by a track.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, not. Everything's a truck of emotion.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
All right, guys, we are going to get into this
week's am I the assholes?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Let's get all right?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Am I the asshole? I went on three dates with
the guy. On the second date, we kissed good bye
in the car. There was something really strange about it.
He didn't close his mouth, like when you kiss with tongue. NOA,
do you tend to not really close your mouth there.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It's been a while, so it depends.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Everyone's different, but I feel like it's obviously like it
was very pretty, it was bad. I'm kind of vision
Hang on, No, I think closing your mouth is part
of it.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, like in the middle.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, for context, I'm nineteen, he's twenty six. On the
third day, before we kissed, I said, last time we kissed,
you kept your mouth open.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Why?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
He genuinely looks confused. This turned into me teaching him
how to kiss. Okay, so close your mouth first, then
we kiss more and you can start opening it. Basically,
I felt like an asshole.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Hold on, hold on, how long are we just closed
mouth kissing? For?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I feel like it only has to be like a
sex to be like a little quick one too, right,
i'd say so okay, but I feel like, yeah, we're
not in it right now.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, but what she's saying anyway, we'll get to it.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The punchline basically, I felt like an asshole. I don't,
but I don't think he minded. Now I'm wondering, am
I the asshole if I ended things because he can't kiss?
Or is it okay to teach him? And if the
kissing is this bad, what's the sex going to be like?
To be fair, he's lovely, such a gentleman, bought roses
on our first and third day. But I'm hoping more
attraction grows otherwise I'll end it anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I think if you end up with him after that
kissing lesson, it's basically like in his mind, she's ended
it with me because I can't kiss, And in that sense, that.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Would be like a real hit to the eager.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, but if that kiss is making you not like
this guy, then then you're not the asshole.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's just like he probably will.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, it'll be a bit of a it'll be a knock, yeah,
because it's like, oh my god, we've just talked about
her teaching we how to kiss and now she's done, Like,
that's because I can't. But you're not the ashole for
ending it. No, you don't have to stay with anybody
for any reason. Just because he bought you flowers doesn't
have to like bare minimum bam minimum flowers on every
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day is a princess treatman though, do you not agree?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Actually you know what?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
No, I want someone to buy my flowers every day. Okay,
thank you, am I the asshole. Our group is three
best friends. Let's call them Pepper, Kitty and Me.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Why must we.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Must we call them Pepper, Kitty, anything.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Anything in the world? Okay. One night, Pepper and Kitty
porn stars? What are they? Porn stars? Pepper and Kitty
have a small argument.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
We were on a girl's night out and Pepper had
to leave her car in a school car park overnight.
Kitty promised an in a minute. The names is just
getting to know. Should we name them something? No, it's
already started. Kitty promised to drop her back the next
morning before work. We get home at five am and
Pepper asked Kitty to take her at seven am. Kitty
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says no, she's still drunk and offers at eleven am instead.
They argue, they both got to bed. I crash in
Kitty's room the next day, Pepper leaves before we wake up,
and I never hear from her again.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I run into a year later.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I run into her and she says we're not friends
because I chose Kitty's bed to sleep in. I say
it out of their argument completely, but she fully ghosted me.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Am I the asshole? No, you're not the asshole. Pepper's
the asshole.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You cannot rely on someone to drop you back to
your car the next day because it's like also, Kitty
probably was still drunk should not be driving. In my opinion,
the promise of I will drop you back to your car,
just leave it, just leave it. I'll drop you back
in the morning is null and void the next day.
Absolutely if they if you ask them and they say yes, great,
but it's like never nothing. It means it shouldn't because why,
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I mean, look, you get home at five am. You
want her to wake up at seven am. If they
don't decide to drive you the next day, that's great,
and that's fucking true friendship.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
That isn't true.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
But she probably also doesn't make you a bad person
for not wanting to commit yourself to only two hours sleep,
to not drive your friend to work the next day,
like that's she's your Pepper's the asshole.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
To be fair, Pepper probably would have even been gone, Well, no,
Pepper should have quit. I would have quit if.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I was well, yeah, I'm no stranger to calling in
sick to things, so like there's no way I would
have pushed myself out of my comfort.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Zone to no one should ever leave their comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah no, I just think the amount of times it's
been like I'll take you to your car and like
then they don't message me the next day to ask me,
And I'm like, oh my god, thank Mark, because you're
not the outshole girl Popper is. I hope Kitty had
a good night's sleep. Okay, Number three? Am I the asshole?
I'm dating my friend's ex. Been there and done that,
(29:42):
free can't. My friend Kate moved to my high school
in year ten. We weren't close, we only saw each
other at parties and if you're eleven, Kate started dating James,
who had always been mates with They lasted three months
before he broke up with her for being controlling. I
just never believe the boys side.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, I'm like, she.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Was she or were you an asshole? And she was
trying to keep you in line?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You know what I mean. The next year, James and
I started to develop feelings. Kate was already with someone
else she found out about us, she acted like James
had cheated on her, came up to me at school
and screamed in my face, calling me a slut. Pointing yelling,
then turned to the entire year level against me. She
made up fake stories, everyone believed her, and it genuinely
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ruined my final year. James and I have now been
together for three years and I still have my friends.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
No, you're not the asshole.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Everyone's so different about this though, Yeah they really are.
Sometimes people feel like, and I'm not one of these
people that if you sleep with someone or if you
date someone for a short period of time, that you
own that person. And I truly believe that you don't.
There's obviously a line. To me, there's serious differences on
how their relationship ended. If they did cheat on you
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and like break your heart, maybe ideally your friends wouldn't
go there, but like if it wasn't a breakup, like
with any big issue, I don't see it as a problem.
And my big thing is if the other person is
in a new relationship, I think that almost kind of
like void. That's when it really does depend on the person.
There are some people who are in a new relationship
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and don't give a shit about.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Any of their exes, But then there are some.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
People who still hold something for the ex always, So
it actually depends on the person. I actually do think,
not that you're the asshole, but you probably should have
spoken to her about it when you started, when you
started to develop feelings, that's what should have happened, and
then gauged from that whether or not that friendship is
important to you and keeping that friendship. I also think
(31:45):
there's something to say for the fact that you've been
together for three years now. So it's like one of
those things I always wonder. It's like when you meet
a guy, you go on meet a guy on hine
or something, You go on a date with him, you
meet his friends, and you realize, like, hang on his friend, Yeah,
what have I done?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
What have I done? Do you know what I mean?
You have a right to you get the right to choose,
you know.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Sometimes the first person you meet in like a friendship
group might not be the person for you out of
that group.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, but they're meant to.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Like get you to meet the person that you are,
So there's definitely variables. No, you're not the asshole, and
but I don't think Kitty is either, because I also
think that like being upset and her is something you
can't really control when it comes to stuff like that. Yeah, yeah,
you can't control that.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I do think. Yeah, if her friend was upset and hurt,
that's fair enough.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
She can have her feelings, but it doesn't mean you're
an asshole. Tesla and I were talking about this the
other day. All is fair in love and war. Do
you think that is true? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I do.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I do trux And to me, it was like to
an extent there, you know, it really depends like cheating
is never allowed, and it depends on like I would Yeah, No,
there are boundaries with everything. But I did end up
dating a friend's I wouldn't say we were really friends
anymore at the time she'd had another partner, and to me,
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it was like worth the look. It was a long
It sounds this actually sounds really fucking bad. It wasn't
as bad as it seems. If you think about the
way it played out, do you know what I mean?
Be and that girl weren't friends anymore. She'd had another
partner for a couple of years at this point. And
then it's like, I really did take my sweet motherfucking
time figuring out whether it was going to be worth
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it going for this guy and like completely cutting off
that relationship. But at this point that relationship wasn't there anymore.
This girl wasn't a girl that was particularly fucking.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Nice to me.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
She wasn't nice. Yeah, so I'm like, yeah, this is
worth the risk. So I think it's just like there's
pros and cottons to everything, and I just hap a
case by case thing. But in this case, neither of
you were really the arsehole. Yeah, except for her trying
to turn the whole school year against you. Yeah, and
(33:56):
you should have told her earlier. Yeah, set my assholes,
both of you, set my phone. Am I the asshole
for cutting off my sister in law? Maybe we're used
to be close. A year ago we had a falling
out on a boat party when I told her to
take it easy on the drink so she didn't fall overboard.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Hmm. I have a funny thing.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
About people saying take it easy on the drinks. It
really depends how bad it is. And I think your
delivery is so important in a.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Situation like that. Definitely.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, she ignored me, almost slipped. I caught her, and
then I suggested to drink some water.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's okay. Later my phone died.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I asked her to book me and Uber I'd transfer
her in the morning. She snapped, got rude, so I
asked my friends instead. She stormed back and said, what
did you want me to fucking do?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Book me an Uber? Please? I dearly.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Since then, she's been talking badly about me to my
partner's family, refusing to meet up to resolve things, but
still acting nice to my face. I've decided I'm done
putting an effort. Am I the asshole for not trying anymore?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
No, you're not.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
A sister in law is coming into a family. She
needs to make effort with this family. She can't come
into the family, cause problems and start talking shit about
her husband's sister. No, I think it's it's the other
way around. This is the husband's sister, she's the girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
But do we know that for sure?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I think because it could be my way, I don't
think it is. I think it's my way like most Well,
then you kind of do need to keep putting an effort.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, you kind of.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yes, you didn't choose to date the sister in law,
but the family kind of comes with it, unless they're
like fucking horrible people, which this girl sounds like a
bit of a brat, but like she's probably not, like
I'm mom, But this is something you can just sweep
under the rug. You don't need to be best friends
with her to find your back, but she's nice, your
face great, Just be nice.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
To you do in peace?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
You do because I feel like there's blood is different
and like you don't want to keep it up and
have her be like turning people against and interfering with
your relationships because sometimes I feel like it comes to
a lot of people where they're like it's your family
or me. A lot of people end up picking the
family and you don't.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Want it to come to that. So be friendly, keep
the peace, keep the peace. But you're not the.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Asshole, but keep the peace. Am I the asshole? I
twenty four female, was seeing it this guy, twenty seven
male for about two months. He told me he was
single and recently got out of a long term relationship.
We went on dates, hooked up, texted every day. I
had no reason to think I was the side shit.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
That one night I randomly ended up on his mom's
Facebook random.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Oh you're trying to find out where you.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Went on holiday and twenty eleven or were you stalking
him hard?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah? I do that, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah, nope, you'll do I'll go all the way down
to a boys like early photos.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
On a day you seed all of it. Yeah, I
can see what kind of person you were. She goes,
don't ask.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I saw photos of his ex very much still his
girlfriend holding up an ultrasound captioned we can't wait to
meet you. Ohole, he's the asshole. I felt physically sick.
I debated for a day or two, but I ultimately
messaged her respectfully. I think that's a good shout at
that point, I think you bypassed the man. The woman
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needs to know because he's not going to fucking do it.
A lot of people say, like, you go, oh, I'll
tell her, or you will. You're not going to fucking
be with this guy anymore anyway, because he's got a
kid on the way.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
With another woman. You just tell the woman, Hey, I'm.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Really sorry to bring you into this, but I think
you deserve to know. I've been seeing Ryan for a
couple months. I didn't know about you. I definitely didn't
know you were pregnant. I've a touched screenshots about text
and photos, so you know I'm not making this up.
She didn't reply straight away, but a few days later
I got a simple thanks for telling me.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
My heart broke for her.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Now Ryan is cursing me out from on her account,
saying I've destroyed his family.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
He destroyed his family, and.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Then I'm a bit for stressing out a pregnant woman.
Even one of my friends said it was cruel to
tell her while she's expecting. I didn't mean to hurt her,
but I couldn't stay silent. I'd want to know. So
am I the asshole for telling her the truth even
though she's pregnant.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
No, imagine telling her when she's just got a newborn
kid and she's getting like fucking three hours sleep.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
She needed to know now?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, Otherwise you'd have to wait a lot longer until
there's another appropriate time to tell him. There's no appropriate
time to tell someone that their partner's joting on them.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, but people are.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Pregnant for nine months, so that's a whole long time
to know a secret and not be able to tell somebody.
I think when you told her is absolutely right. You
are not the asshole. And I hope she's okay.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
She's okay. I hope you're okay, And I hope he's
in a pea somewhere.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Okay, Okay, guys, that was part two of Am I
the Asshole?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Thank you so much for listening every week.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I know this episode was slightly different energy, but that's okay.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
We sprinkled some tea in here, we did. Everyone loves
a bit of tea. Yeah, and if you don't, you're lying.
You're lying, You're a liar. All right, guys, I will
chat to you next week.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Love you, love you buying. Thank you, Beyonce,
I saw photos of his ex very much still his
girlfriend holding up an ultrasound captioned, we.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Can't wait to meet you.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello, guys, welcome back to hear me Out.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We have our semi regular guests. We'll work again.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
She's going to be expecting to make a paycheck off
this bad voice.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Surely, surely that's coming. That's an home discussion.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay, We've got Riley, my sister back on. We are
doing a part two basically of last week's episode was
so much fun and we got so many submissions, and honestly,
like hearing if you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Are the arsehole makes me feel better. Yeah, yeah, it does,
it really does.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
So I just want to dive straight into the hemeouts
to get things started because.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We have a lot to cover this week. That was evil,
that hear.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Me Out, No, because this is something I'm really passionate
about this sooner. Okay, hear me out for this week
is that pigeons Our responsibility.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Elaborate.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So I'm sure everyone's heard like the law I mean birds, pigeons, pigeons,
the birds, yea, the story about how we domesticated pigeons
and then just fucked them off.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You know, I haven't actually had.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, oh well here we go. Okay, I'm sure I
think a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Of people do know this.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But basically, pigeons, way back when, probably in the Middle Ages,
they were used to deliver messages. Actually they were, Actually
they were, so we domesticated, Yes, we domesticated them.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
We taught them how to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We kept them in cages, we fed them, and then
we you know, we taught them whatever. Yeah, we didn't
need pigeons anymore because male became a thing like human
male like post mail, like post like postman like males
actually started living, so we just used men for it.
I didn't actually mean that, I know that. Yeah, okay,
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male m a I l And we stopped needing pigeons
and we fucked them off. And now pigeons that's why
they're like the rats of the city. They live off
our scraps because they do not know how to do
anything for themselves. The way they build nests is really
really sad. But I'm seriously, the ability to for pigeons
(02:16):
to like fly male across and stuff like that surely
long died out with all the newer cuse like they've
just learned to do nothing.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, they've learned to do nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
They don't know how to forage for themselves because they
were fed and kept in cages. But does that matter
if they eat us?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Nubs for feet? No toes? What I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So many pigeons don't have toes, but so many seagulls
don't have toes.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's not true. I've been paying attention to this.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Wait, all seagulls have, majority of them one footed seagulls.
Every time one footed seagulls because they tuck their foot up,
because I did at touch of this yesterday. They tucked
their feet up to keep their body warm, so they
sleep one.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I love them love birds.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Every time we go anywhere, I talk about how bad
I feel for the pigeons, I talk about pigeons. I
have known you for twenty five years, and never once
have I heard you talk about probably because you wouldn't
really receive it as well with some other people.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Okay, either way, I care about pigeons.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
They should be our responsibility and we need to start
doing something about it. What would you like to be
that pigeon home? That can be what you do when
you grow up. It can be and I've actually i've
told Tessa about this. That is something that I'm considering
doing when I'm really wealthy and older.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I'm going to create a picture.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay, when you're really wealthy and older, so you don't
care enough to use it as your dying job. Save
the pigeons only if you're.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Really, really, really I know I'm going to be really wealthy.
I'm just manifesting it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
When you did the lions Gate Portal manifestation, did you
manifest a pigeon home? Because that's going to happen anyway,
so you don't care. When I did the lines get
pulled on manifestation, I only manifested things for the next
year or two and then the next lines gate.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Then I go a little bit first.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay, so what the lions Gate Portal is for those
of you don't know, Actually, Riley will probably explain it
a little bits a day. Each day each year, on
the eighth of the eighth, which is the eighth of August,
it's like the best day for manifestation. Manifestations come to fruition,
the luckiest manifestation the other day. The veil is like
the thingils with thinness. Yeah, between we don't know. We
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don't know what. We don't know the veil between line
and lap, but we were concerned about what type of
people we were. Yes, I lay on my bed with
all my Lion toys on my lap. That wasn't a
necessary thing, but I do have a lot of Lion toys,
and I was like lions Gate Portal, like, put the
line toys on my lap, play the five twenty eight
Hurtz YouTube sound, which is good for manifesting. And by
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the time I was done, I'd been doing it for
twenty six minutes and I felt really excited.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, it's really exciting, and now those things are going
to happen. Yeah, they are quick.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Side note this is a PSA for everyone that owns
a metal water bottle.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Metal water bottle.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
If you put like liquid IV drinks in it, like
electro clean it more regularly. I have been getting so
sick for the past like month, and I am not
I'm a clean girl generally, I am, but there's something
about cleaning frank green water bottles that like doesn't appeal
to me, Like I'm not as good at doing that
as I was alive to me, do you know what
(05:15):
I mean? I clean the straw a lot, but like
do I take it out and clean the whole inside
of the lid in the bottle? Not as much as
like it's like, how often do you wash a bra?
Not anywhere near as often as you should want, probably less.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
To be honest, I.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Don't really wear bras anymore. No, neither I do wath
it more. Just those cool girls that just like just
like anyway, I checked my drink bodel as saying, I'm like,
honestly have been sick for weeks and the whole thing
is covered in mold all up on the inside like
like black. I've thrown out so many water back and
(05:54):
I was like, oh my god, I'm just gonna chuck
it in the dish washow rather goes put that in
the fucking bin. My easy who trained me, was like,
I can't believe you have not just thrown that right
in the mint. So I've just ordered a new one.
But I'm also saying that is in if you do
put stuff that isn't water in that drink bottle, check
it more regularly, because if you're getting sick, it's probably fun.
I could have told you that I've thrown out well
you didn't. Yeah, well you never asked I did. If
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I thought enough to ask about it, I would.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Have checked it. If I ever caught you putting liquid
IV in your drink bottle.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It since before my nose job, and I can tell
you that I haven't washed that.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Bottle as Wow, that's disgusting. I washed the lid like
I washed it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Need to wash your water bottle if you're just putting
water in it, you really don't mean. I rinse it
out after everything, like I just like swirl it around,
but that doesn't hit the lid and the lid like
the upper part of the bottle and outside of the lid.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah. Yeah, it was nasty.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So when I get home, I'm curious to see how
much of the mold is gone from the dishousher.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But I am just going to throw it outuck it anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So we have a listener hear me out and it's
Chad Michael Murray could be a cult leader, like a
cult leader. And if you guys don't know who that
is is Lucas on One Tree Hill. He's you know,
one of those like sexy sort of two thousands guys.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
That wasn't Yeah, he definitely in his older age looks like.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
He Google him now and you'll actually see like he
does if you dyed his hair brown.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
He's like Jesus vibes. I think it's the blondness that
makes him look like a cult leader.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Really, yeah, I reckon, it's his face, his eyes, they're
getting beadier, they're getting deader. Yeah, yeah, there is no guy.
Yeah no, I totally see that. And to be honest,
I would follow Chad Michael Murray in a cult me too. No,
he's when he was younger, for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But now no. So have you seen Gilmore Girls?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But I know what he looks like in Goodmore Girls.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, but out of like you know, there's like the
three heart throbs on Gilmore Girls. I know the three guys.
It's Dean, Dean, Dean, mine's Jesse. But Dean's tall and
hot and dark and wears like leather jackets, and he
was he was cute. Jesse was like smarter, definitely more
the type of person for Rory.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Rory didn't deserve any of these people.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
No, Rory is the Rory Gilmore is the fucking problem. Yeah.
I haven't even seen the Rory Gilmore.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You know what's actually funny is when I was going.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I heard hear Mom playing Gilmore Girls like all the
fucking time, and I couldn't stand.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So listen to me. I know that's what I feel
when you're playing.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, because like, unless you're actually actively watching a show,
sometimes the sound of the show is quite because they're
going like na, na the whole there's not a single
break in there, And like, I'm not here to judge
certain toned voices because like I know that we have
unusually low voices. Yeah, Rory Gilmore's voice hits a note
in my ear that I can't quite stand. But that's
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only when I'm not actually actively watching it. But then
I did give in and watch it, and I love it.
It's a comfort show of mine now. But like the
more I slowly watch it, like the more I just
want to fucking punch Roy gil More in the head,
I think I've.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Accepted I'm never watching it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
There's also Logan, the blonde one from me, No, but
I don't. He's not my type. No, so he was
never really in the picture for me. No, Jesse's my favorite.
Any true Girl or Girls fan will.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Agree that Jesse's the one.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Fir.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, I'm not a tricking more girls fan, I think
let's watch it.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
No, thanks, okay, okay, So what did you get up
to this weekend? This weekend, I had my best friend's birthday. Yeah,
and it was really fun. It was I thought you're
about to do like and it was lit. It was
so like what you would say. And I cannot drink anymore.
I went home way earlier than I usually do, and
(09:39):
the next day I wanted to die. I actually tracked
when you went home, Yeah, like twelve thirty. No, yep,
I noticed you just en route to Tessa's, like it
takes a while to get to Tessa's house.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But no, we left.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
We waited outside the Emerson got in, and then as
soon as you walked in, we left.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You sometimes I just walk into it like the Emerson
to me is.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Like and we were just like, hold on, we don't
want this right now, and then we left. You have
to be like really in the move of the Amazon
even then, like Amazon is not.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Somewhere I think.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I do not regularly go right for a boogie. You
go there actually more than I probably do. I've been
there once in the last year, but I did enjoy
myself that one time.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
That one time.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, not enough to go back in the year. No, no, yes, yeah,
I stayed. I went to the same thing as Riley
Riley's friend's birthday, and then I ended up saying at
bars and then went to a house. Like you guys
work with the Amazon. I'm like, I can't hug that tonight,
Like I'm not. I'm not much of a dancer. I
prefer to sit and yeah and talk about myself. All yeah,
(10:46):
is he does love to chat about herself. Oh my god,
I was joking and now you're just being I was.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Kind of drinking too, as a really little smirk. Anyway, No,
I love a boogie. I love a chat, but then
a dance is just yeah. Well obviously wasn't hitting. Yeah, didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But funnily enough, the night before, wait, how was your weekend?
So my weekend was interesting?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Thank you for asking.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
The night before, I went out with a couple of
my girlfriends. Haven't seen them in ages. I was in
the best fucking mood because of the lions Gate portal.
Like I just manifested my streamline and I saw it
coming into fruition and I'll explain what I was manifesting,
and like what I'm planning on doing next year, which
I'm really excited for after I get this little hump
out of the way. So what hump, I'll explain. I
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went out with my friend Angel and a couple of girls,
and Angel was like, oh, I've got some girls from
work that are coming. By the way, one of them
slept with your ex boyfriend. I'm like, okay, great, that's fine.
They were lovely girls, like, no disrespect to them. That
was actually so much fun. It was all really great.
And then one of the girls mentions to me that
my ex boyfriend seems to be feeling the need to
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go and tell all the girls he goes and sleeps
with that I'm musing him for Cloud Great, and then
I'm like, a man, what man, who is the asshole?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Not me?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
The ex boyfriend is the asshole. And I think is
he needs clout? I don't think I need Cloud from
you either. It's like, obviously, yeah, I was previously tied
to him. It's gonna be something that people are aware of. It, Like,
I'm not out here regularly constantly making fucking videos about
this man ever, really talk really, And I think I
spent a really long time trying to protect him in
the sense of like not being fully open on here
(12:25):
about what he'd done to me and like how it
all went down, just because there is still that level
of respect for someone that you loved. But it's like,
when did I get any of that respect back? Even
when we were together? But it's like, if he's telling
this one girl that I happened to run into on
this night, you're probably telling every fucking Tom Dick in hurry.
And it's like that is honestly just not the case.
(12:46):
And so I'm like, gloves are off, like game on.
I'm gonna I texted Blake and Riley and I'm like, uh,
we're gonna say what everything that went?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Tell not even a tell all.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
But it's like I feel I'm sitting here like blabbering
because I'm unsure around like what you want to say?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
What I want to say.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I'm just like I want to write to know that
like that boy put me through the fucking ringer one
hundred times over, and like, because I'm an empathetic person,
they could just cry and apologize and I'll be like,
you put it up to mental health. You put it
up to them being in a bad place, and you're like, oh,
it's Okay, I forgive you, because like someone that you
love and is like convincing you of all these things.
(13:24):
Like the manipulation was like on a level I've never had.
And I'm like, oh, he's in a bad place, like oh,
you know, that's why he's done these things whatever, like Okay,
I'll try again.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And it's like bruh, this fuck. Sometimes you're just an asshole.
I remember.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Actually this is actually really funny, and I'll tell you, guys,
are this part of the story maybe just today. But
I was working at Lulu Lemon and I finished at ten,
and I was working in the city, and a couple
of days before, we'd had this girl message me. Wee
being me like, I'm talking about me and a couple
of my friends. This girl reached out to me and said,
my friends left with your boyfriend while he was in
(14:01):
Adelaide for a game. And I'm like, oh my god,
heart sinks, Oh my god, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You know?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And then it was a friend of the girl that
actually texted. So one of my girlfriends was like, I'm
gonna follow the girl that supposedly was and message her
and see if I can get more information. It's very
much in denial at this point, and I'm like, you,
I could have, yeah, probably just believed it in that
moment in time and said yeah that he did do that.
But I'm like, I'm so in love right now, I
need more to like allow myself to believe this, you
(14:29):
know which, in hindsight, never in my life growing up,
did I think I'd be in a relationship where like
I would potentially accept someone cheating on me, you know
what I mean, Until you're faced with that head on
and it's like, I don't know if I can leave you. Yeah,
And it was really a sad, scary moment for me
that I wasn't like what I thought I was, or
I wasn't as strong as I thought I was. Anyway,
my friend messaged this girl. She ended up responding, so
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I was at work finished at ten, I didn't get
any messages. I'm like, in the best mood. Call my
boyfriend at the time. I pick up some ingredients for
fucking pizza. We're gonna make pizza when I get home.
I drive home and all of a sudden, I get
a call from my best friend.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
When I pull out the front.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Of his house, she goes, where behind you parked right
now out in the front of your boyfriend's house.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Get in our car.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And I turned around and I'm like, what the fuck
they actually are, like they'd driven there. They didn't want
to tell me or call me because they would know
that I would freak out, and like I was driving
from the city and like they were like, we just
wanted to be able to talk to you in person,
which is really fucking sweet. And so I get in
their car. They show me all the messages. Yeah, he's
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like fucking photos and everything.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Like you've fucking done it.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, yeah, and he could track me and see that
I was there. I mean, he was like, you're just
sitting in your car, like what are you doing? And
he like comes out and I'm like, you fucking did
it on me and he's like, no, I didn't, Annoy didn't.
And the girls are like, do you need us to stay?
I said, look, I'll go in, I'll talk to him,
don't leave if I'm still in there, and like twenty minutes,
like you can go, but they're like, we want to
(15:59):
wait and see if you need help, Like, because obviously
they're not assuming I'm gonna fucking stick around. It ends
up being a me problem, you know what I mean,
the way it ends up being spun, I ended up
probably fucking apologizing. It got just he just got angry.
It all got a shit. It was a shit show.
He ends up crying. I end up being like, fuck,
(16:19):
I'll just say, convinces me that's not the case. People
lie about me all the time because of who he is,
la l la, And for some reason or another, I
ended up being like, you believed him? Okay, I, in
my heart of hearts didn't, but I didn't know what
to do, and I didn't yet know in that moment
whether I was ready to let it go. And like
so I'm like, I'm going to pretend, like in my mind,
(16:41):
try and convince myself that I do believe him, And
like that was a really hard turning point for me,
where I'm like, who the fuck am I? Right?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And my friends I'm embarrassed, Like my friends are sitting
out there and I text them saying I'm gonna say,
like that was brutal, do you know what I mean?
And he ends up fucking by and being like, oh.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You're just so cute.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You got like Bocconcini and tomatoes and thought we were
just gonna be having like a nice pizza making night
and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Oh, and then you cheated on me and ruined the
whole fucking thing.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I got a bed without my homemade fucking pizza, and
that was the worst part of it all. I don't
seriously that would have gotten to you the most. But
I mean, I don't understand how people can like cheat
and then sleep next to their partner and be like, yeah,
I'm a good person.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And like and crying. Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
She just was crying because he was like, you're so cute.
Like he went and got my bags from my car
and all the ingredients and the groceries that I'd gotten
for our fucking dinner, and he was so sad that
I was just so cute that I'd gotten fucking Boco Genie. Look,
it's in for a really long time, and like, I
just want people to know it's not for clout for me.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
It's more just like, this is.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
My experience of what I went through, And honestly, I
think it plays a huge part into why I am
still single, Like going through not one, but two really
hard relationships when neither of the mem will loyal to you,
like makes it really hard to trust and move forward
in a relationship. And I think I haven't told it
out of protection, but like there's no mutual respect anymore
between us.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So it's like, why am I still doing that.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I have this platform now, I'm honest with you guys
about everything. This is the huge part of my life
that I think mays me who I am now, Like.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Fuck it, hello, fuck it.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Like I just also want to say, never once have
I named the guy. I think Sam once named him
on Just for Girls and I was like, oh, fuck,
like we're doing that now, Like I never had the
intention of doing that. Even now, I'm still not fucking
saying his name. One knows who he is or you know.
(18:43):
It's like this whole podcast has always been about you know,
you guys and your submissions and your stories and your life.
And I'm like, this is a big part of my life.
And it's like, if I wanted to do it for Clout,
I could have launched me Out with the fucking story
about him. I could have launched Just for Girls with
stories about him because I know all the submissions even
nowadays that I get what happened between you and so
and so what happened between you and so and so?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
That is a constant and I think it always will be.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So. Yes, we didn't actually break up, then what happened
to lead to our breakup, in.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
My opinion, was far fucking worse than that.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And I'm just a girl and I only have so
much give in me before I'm going to fucking snap
as someone's talking about you, especially something that isn't true. You, well,
after what I've done for that fucking guy. Yeah, here's
something that is fucking true.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
There you go. What can you say about that? It's
that is exactly how it went down.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You're gonna go tell people I'm doing that. Oh wait,
you already are. So this makes no difference in my life. Yeah, okay,
good riddans with you the best anyway, moving forward, I
feel like I have learned so much in those two relationships,
and I fully believe that my next one, you know,
I will not make the same mistakes again, and the
guy that I go for will not be the same
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mistake again.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
No, and even if they did, which because you can't
control the people, I feel like you know how to
handle it a lot better this. Yeah, And it's like
everyone like it is like, oh, why would you date him?
It's like I knew him since we were kids, like
we grew up together. So I didn't see him as
what everybody everyone else does. So it's like I didn't
go into it being like oh classic, like obviously he's
going to do this, Like you sometimes feel like it's
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going to be you know, I've known him for so long,
it's going to be different.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Never is. So.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
On another note, I had a menty bee quarter, a
life crisis pretty well immediately the moment I anyone, yeah,
almost instantly, almost instantly, and I have decided that I
think the right decision for me is to move, not move.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
See.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I have a funny thing about people saying they're moving
somewhere when it's like, but you are very temporary. Well,
I'm going to live hopefully not hopefully. We're saying it
like it's happening. I'm living in New York for a
couple months next year. I don't know how long that's
going to be. I think I'm going to start with,
and then I kind of want to go to Europe.
Ideally it's April to June then Europe, and then I
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want to come back and stay with another friend over
like Halloween and stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Because in New York.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah yeah, And I just feel like, now that I've
got that in my mind, I'm like, that is such
a good move.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It feels like the right move. And when I was manified,
Halloween is.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
October, end of October, so that's a long time to
be there.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It is a long time.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
That's more than a couple of months. If I don't
like it, I don't stay. And I think that's you know,
I'll book you know, one way ticket there. I'm lucky
that I will have hopefully some friends there that I know,
And being in this world is almost really lucky because
you can kind of get in contact with people that
you see online that live there and like kind of
make friends with them.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But I just feel like I need to change.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I'm really stagnant in my life right now, and I'm
like seeing all these people live all these amazing lives
overseas and like Europe, I think Europe summer, and like
seeing all your friends like me in Europe like makes
you feel like what the fuck.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Am I doing? My hands aren't tied.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm so blessed to have a job that I can
do it from remote, like do it elsewhere. I'm like,
it scares the shit out of me. And that's why
I've never really considered it because like living in another country,
I never really knew if I could leave behind my
family and my friends and cat and my cat. But
Riley said, she'll look after my cat. Everyone, like, you
do not need to worry about Bobby.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That girl is.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
All she does is just drop little poos everywhere. That's okay,
and eats. But she's like, she's like mummy, he said.
I don't drop little poos everywhere. I just also like eating.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
She does she does.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That was one in my room and oh my god,
do you remember when we were younger, and like, oh,
I remember I came we came up from the movies
or something, and there was a human size poo on
my floor in my room. Yes, and it wasn't me,
but I and I knew it wasn't me because it
just wasn't me, and we could not figure out who
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it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Everyone's like, it's Georgie, your cat. That is not a
cat poo. That was a human poo.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And to this day we do not know who shot
in my room. I totally happened no, not a psycho.
Casey wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Mum. There was a pool on my floor, a human poop.
I do remember that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
That was It was like the mystery of the Armitage family,
like a year anyway.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I metage.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Is that how you've been saying armitage? It's actually pronounced No,
it's armitage apparently, but there's no way worse armitage, armitage, armitage.
I don't know why I said that. Sounds a bit
more regal though, doesn't it armitage? No? Anyway, that's a
little how to on how to pronounce our name with
(23:38):
no ending or proper answer.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's armored.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It is armitage, but we say armitage because we sound
like not armorage.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It's armitage. That's what it actually is.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
If we're doing it by definition, it's armitage, but we
say we say armitage, and apparently you say armoritage. Sometimes
either way, we're moving on. Should we get into this
hasn't been as funny this week as the normal.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's been more serious.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, sorry, guys, but sometimes you know, life isn't always
all funny games.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
If you listen to this podcast and expect to be human.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Sometimes you're just gonna be hit by a track.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, not. Everything's a truck of emotion.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
All right, guys, we are going to get into this
week's am I the assholes?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Let's get all right?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Am I the asshole? I went on three dates with
the guy. On the second date, we kissed good bye
in the car. There was something really strange about it.
He didn't close his mouth, like when you kiss with tongue. NOA,
do you tend to not really close your mouth there.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It's been a while, so it depends.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Everyone's different, but I feel like it's obviously like it
was very pretty, it was bad. I'm kind of vision
Hang on, No, I think closing your mouth is part
of it.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, like in the middle.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, for context, I'm nineteen, he's twenty six. On the
third day, before we kissed, I said, last time we kissed,
you kept your mouth open.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Why?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
He genuinely looks confused. This turned into me teaching him
how to kiss. Okay, so close your mouth first, then
we kiss more and you can start opening it. Basically,
I felt like an asshole.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Hold on, hold on, how long are we just closed
mouth kissing? For?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I feel like it only has to be like a
sex to be like a little quick one too, right,
i'd say so okay, but I feel like, yeah, we're
not in it right now.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, but what she's saying anyway, we'll get to it.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The punchline basically, I felt like an asshole. I don't,
but I don't think he minded. Now I'm wondering, am
I the asshole if I ended things because he can't kiss?
Or is it okay to teach him? And if the
kissing is this bad, what's the sex going to be like?
To be fair, he's lovely, such a gentleman, bought roses
on our first and third day. But I'm hoping more
attraction grows otherwise I'll end it anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I think if you end up with him after that
kissing lesson, it's basically like in his mind, she's ended
it with me because I can't kiss, And in that sense, that.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Would be like a real hit to the eager.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, but if that kiss is making you not like
this guy, then then you're not the asshole.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's just like he probably will.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, it'll be a bit of a it'll be a knock, yeah,
because it's like, oh my god, we've just talked about
her teaching we how to kiss and now she's done, Like,
that's because I can't. But you're not the ashole for
ending it. No, you don't have to stay with anybody
for any reason. Just because he bought you flowers doesn't
have to like bare minimum bam minimum flowers on every
(26:44):
day is a princess treatman though, do you not agree?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Actually you know what?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
No, I want someone to buy my flowers every day. Okay,
thank you, am I the asshole. Our group is three
best friends. Let's call them Pepper, Kitty and Me.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Why must we.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Must we call them Pepper, Kitty, anything.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Anything in the world? Okay. One night, Pepper and Kitty
porn stars? What are they? Porn stars? Pepper and Kitty
have a small argument.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
We were on a girl's night out and Pepper had
to leave her car in a school car park overnight.
Kitty promised an in a minute. The names is just
getting to know. Should we name them something? No, it's
already started. Kitty promised to drop her back the next
morning before work. We get home at five am and
Pepper asked Kitty to take her at seven am. Kitty
(27:47):
says no, she's still drunk and offers at eleven am instead.
They argue, they both got to bed. I crash in
Kitty's room the next day, Pepper leaves before we wake up,
and I never hear from her again.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I run into a year later.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I run into her and she says we're not friends
because I chose Kitty's bed to sleep in. I say
it out of their argument completely, but she fully ghosted me.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Am I the asshole? No, you're not the asshole. Pepper's
the asshole.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You cannot rely on someone to drop you back to
your car the next day because it's like also, Kitty
probably was still drunk should not be driving. In my opinion,
the promise of I will drop you back to your car,
just leave it, just leave it. I'll drop you back
in the morning is null and void the next day.
Absolutely if they if you ask them and they say yes, great,
but it's like never nothing. It means it shouldn't because why,
(28:38):
I mean, look, you get home at five am. You
want her to wake up at seven am. If they
don't decide to drive you the next day, that's great,
and that's fucking true friendship.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
That isn't true.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
But she probably also doesn't make you a bad person
for not wanting to commit yourself to only two hours sleep,
to not drive your friend to work the next day,
like that's she's your Pepper's the asshole.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
To be fair, Pepper probably would have even been gone, Well, no,
Pepper should have quit. I would have quit if.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I was well, yeah, I'm no stranger to calling in
sick to things, so like there's no way I would
have pushed myself out of my comfort.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Zone to no one should ever leave their comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah no, I just think the amount of times it's
been like I'll take you to your car and like
then they don't message me the next day to ask me,
And I'm like, oh my god, thank Mark, because you're
not the outshole girl Popper is. I hope Kitty had
a good night's sleep. Okay, Number three? Am I the asshole?
I'm dating my friend's ex. Been there and done that,
(29:42):
free can't. My friend Kate moved to my high school
in year ten. We weren't close, we only saw each
other at parties and if you're eleven, Kate started dating James,
who had always been mates with They lasted three months
before he broke up with her for being controlling. I
just never believe the boys side.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, I'm like, she.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Was she or were you an asshole? And she was
trying to keep you in line?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You know what I mean. The next year, James and
I started to develop feelings. Kate was already with someone
else she found out about us, she acted like James
had cheated on her, came up to me at school
and screamed in my face, calling me a slut. Pointing yelling,
then turned to the entire year level against me. She
made up fake stories, everyone believed her, and it genuinely
(30:26):
ruined my final year. James and I have now been
together for three years and I still have my friends.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
No, you're not the asshole.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Everyone's so different about this though, Yeah they really are.
Sometimes people feel like, and I'm not one of these
people that if you sleep with someone or if you
date someone for a short period of time, that you
own that person. And I truly believe that you don't.
There's obviously a line. To me, there's serious differences on
how their relationship ended. If they did cheat on you
(31:01):
and like break your heart, maybe ideally your friends wouldn't
go there, but like if it wasn't a breakup, like
with any big issue, I don't see it as a problem.
And my big thing is if the other person is
in a new relationship, I think that almost kind of
like void. That's when it really does depend on the person.
There are some people who are in a new relationship
(31:22):
and don't give a shit about.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Any of their exes, But then there are some.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
People who still hold something for the ex always, So
it actually depends on the person. I actually do think,
not that you're the asshole, but you probably should have
spoken to her about it when you started, when you
started to develop feelings, that's what should have happened, and
then gauged from that whether or not that friendship is
important to you and keeping that friendship. I also think
(31:45):
there's something to say for the fact that you've been
together for three years now. So it's like one of
those things I always wonder. It's like when you meet
a guy, you go on meet a guy on hine
or something, You go on a date with him, you
meet his friends, and you realize, like, hang on his friend, Yeah,
what have I done?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
What have I done? Do you know what I mean?
You have a right to you get the right to choose,
you know.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Sometimes the first person you meet in like a friendship
group might not be the person for you out of
that group.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, but they're meant to.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Like get you to meet the person that you are,
So there's definitely variables. No, you're not the asshole, and
but I don't think Kitty is either, because I also
think that like being upset and her is something you
can't really control when it comes to stuff like that. Yeah, yeah,
you can't control that.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I do think. Yeah, if her friend was upset and hurt,
that's fair enough.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
She can have her feelings, but it doesn't mean you're
an asshole. Tesla and I were talking about this the
other day. All is fair in love and war. Do
you think that is true? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I do.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I do trux And to me, it was like to
an extent there, you know, it really depends like cheating
is never allowed, and it depends on like I would Yeah, No,
there are boundaries with everything. But I did end up
dating a friend's I wouldn't say we were really friends
anymore at the time she'd had another partner, and to me,
(33:06):
it was like worth the look. It was a long
It sounds this actually sounds really fucking bad. It wasn't
as bad as it seems. If you think about the
way it played out, do you know what I mean?
Be and that girl weren't friends anymore. She'd had another
partner for a couple of years at this point. And
then it's like, I really did take my sweet motherfucking
time figuring out whether it was going to be worth
(33:27):
it going for this guy and like completely cutting off
that relationship. But at this point that relationship wasn't there anymore.
This girl wasn't a girl that was particularly fucking.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Nice to me.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
She wasn't nice. Yeah, so I'm like, yeah, this is
worth the risk. So I think it's just like there's
pros and cottons to everything, and I just hap a
case by case thing. But in this case, neither of
you were really the arsehole. Yeah, except for her trying
to turn the whole school year against you. Yeah, and
(33:56):
you should have told her earlier. Yeah, set my assholes,
both of you, set my phone. Am I the asshole
for cutting off my sister in law? Maybe we're used
to be close. A year ago we had a falling
out on a boat party when I told her to
take it easy on the drink so she didn't fall overboard.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Hmm. I have a funny thing.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
About people saying take it easy on the drinks. It
really depends how bad it is. And I think your
delivery is so important in a.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Situation like that. Definitely.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, she ignored me, almost slipped. I caught her, and
then I suggested to drink some water.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's okay. Later my phone died.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I asked her to book me and Uber I'd transfer
her in the morning. She snapped, got rude, so I
asked my friends instead. She stormed back and said, what
did you want me to fucking do?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Book me an Uber? Please? I dearly.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Since then, she's been talking badly about me to my
partner's family, refusing to meet up to resolve things, but
still acting nice to my face. I've decided I'm done
putting an effort. Am I the asshole for not trying anymore?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
No, you're not.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
A sister in law is coming into a family. She
needs to make effort with this family. She can't come
into the family, cause problems and start talking shit about
her husband's sister. No, I think it's it's the other
way around. This is the husband's sister, she's the girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
But do we know that for sure?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I think because it could be my way, I don't
think it is. I think it's my way like most Well,
then you kind of do need to keep putting an effort.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, you kind of.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yes, you didn't choose to date the sister in law,
but the family kind of comes with it, unless they're
like fucking horrible people, which this girl sounds like a
bit of a brat, but like she's probably not, like
I'm mom, But this is something you can just sweep
under the rug. You don't need to be best friends
with her to find your back, but she's nice, your
face great, Just be nice.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
To you do in peace?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
You do because I feel like there's blood is different
and like you don't want to keep it up and
have her be like turning people against and interfering with
your relationships because sometimes I feel like it comes to
a lot of people where they're like it's your family
or me. A lot of people end up picking the
family and you don't.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Want it to come to that. So be friendly, keep
the peace, keep the peace. But you're not the.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Asshole, but keep the peace. Am I the asshole? I
twenty four female, was seeing it this guy, twenty seven
male for about two months. He told me he was
single and recently got out of a long term relationship.
We went on dates, hooked up, texted every day. I
had no reason to think I was the side shit.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
That one night I randomly ended up on his mom's
Facebook random.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Oh you're trying to find out where you.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Went on holiday and twenty eleven or were you stalking
him hard?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah? I do that, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah, nope, you'll do I'll go all the way down
to a boys like early photos.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
On a day you seed all of it. Yeah, I
can see what kind of person you were. She goes,
don't ask.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I saw photos of his ex very much still his
girlfriend holding up an ultrasound captioned we can't wait to
meet you. Ohole, he's the asshole. I felt physically sick.
I debated for a day or two, but I ultimately
messaged her respectfully. I think that's a good shout at
that point, I think you bypassed the man. The woman
(37:28):
needs to know because he's not going to fucking do it.
A lot of people say, like, you go, oh, I'll
tell her, or you will. You're not going to fucking
be with this guy anymore anyway, because he's got a
kid on the way.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
With another woman. You just tell the woman, Hey, I'm.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Really sorry to bring you into this, but I think
you deserve to know. I've been seeing Ryan for a
couple months. I didn't know about you. I definitely didn't
know you were pregnant. I've a touched screenshots about text
and photos, so you know I'm not making this up.
She didn't reply straight away, but a few days later
I got a simple thanks for telling me.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
My heart broke for her.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Now Ryan is cursing me out from on her account,
saying I've destroyed his family.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
He destroyed his family, and.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Then I'm a bit for stressing out a pregnant woman.
Even one of my friends said it was cruel to
tell her while she's expecting. I didn't mean to hurt her,
but I couldn't stay silent. I'd want to know. So
am I the asshole for telling her the truth even
though she's pregnant.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
No, imagine telling her when she's just got a newborn
kid and she's getting like fucking three hours sleep.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
She needed to know now?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, Otherwise you'd have to wait a lot longer until
there's another appropriate time to tell him. There's no appropriate
time to tell someone that their partner's joting on them.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, but people are.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Pregnant for nine months, so that's a whole long time
to know a secret and not be able to tell somebody.
I think when you told her is absolutely right. You
are not the asshole. And I hope she's okay.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
She's okay. I hope you're okay, And I hope he's
in a pea somewhere.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Okay, Okay, guys, that was part two of Am I
the Asshole?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Thank you so much for listening every week.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I know this episode was slightly different energy, but that's okay.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
We sprinkled some tea in here, we did. Everyone loves
a bit of tea. Yeah, and if you don't, you're lying.
You're lying, You're a liar. All right, guys, I will
chat to you next week.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Love you, love you buying. Thank you, Beyonce,
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