The Home Improvement Show 11-1-25

Tune in here for this 11-1-25 episode of the Home Depot Home Improvement show on WBT with John Gordon and David Dovell.

On this edition of the program, John and Dave talk about the best ways to care for and maintain tumbled brick around the home. As November begins and the seasons change, the hosts remind listeners to prepare their homes for cooler weather while keeping up with regular maintenance projects. A key topic of discussion is how to properly pressure wash tumbled brick without damaging its delicate, textured surface. Dave recommends using low pressure—around 1,800 PSI—and letting cleaning solutions do most of the work instead of relying on high pressure. The pair also discuss the benefits of applying a penetrating sealer to protect brick from moisture, mold, and mildew while preserving its natural appearance. By sealing brick surfaces, homeowners can extend the life of both the brick and mortar.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Home Depot Home Improvement Show with John and Dave,
presenter by try Pro answering your home improvement questions, every
Saturday on News Talk eleven and ninety nine to three WBT.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Good morning, everybody, Welcome to the Home Depot Home Improvement
Show with John and Day. I'm John Gordon. Welcome back, Dave,
dobil Lottie. I need you to pop Dave it up
just a bit and it's another week. Well, happy November.
Yes we are, we're officially in November. We've got lots

(00:39):
of stuff talking about. If you look around, we're I
don't know, somewhere with barbe and like Christmas cards were
out at the Home Depot, Christmas decorations have been out.
I'm like I was enjoying Halloween, still did, still did yesterday.

(01:01):
Now we're going to be the thinking about Thanksgiving. But
most importantly we'll stay focused on all the home improvement
stuff going on. I'm looking at all the different questions
that we've got here today. There's not a lot of
seasonal stuff as far as you know, weather changing and
things like that. So if you've got questions, particularly as
we as we go into the season, the cooler weather

(01:21):
and all those things. Give us, well, got any questions?
Give us a call. Seven oh four five seven eleven ten.
Seven oh four five seven oh eleven ten is also
the number to which you can text questions using the
WBT text line driven by Liberty Buick GMC. So that's
been good. We uh, we've been getting good questions across

(01:47):
the text and give us a chance to answer those
as well. David, I hope you enjoyed some time off
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
How about you?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
That was good? We had a great we had a
great trip. It was it's always going to be back,
believe it or not. Oh, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, there's no place like home. Seems like that. That's
a really good line.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
M You know my like I get this twitch in
my heels when I hear that, Like I want to
click them or something. Anyway, there's a lot of good
stuff going on. We have pressure washing, uh, with some
plumbing stuff, just a lot. Well, well, well we'll get

(02:30):
our way through it. Are you doing like? Are you
in the middle of any great stuff with David Doble
These days.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
We get ready finishing up on a garage, a big
garage r V garage for a customer and get ready
to start a bathroom in a I don't know, it's
probably seventy year old house, so it'll it'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
So is that still galvanized pipe and everything?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
No, it's it has copper. Okay, so it did have copper.
But you know, it's a nice house, all brick. You know,
it's been well taken care of. And yeah, just time
for just time for some changes in there. That's all.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
No, that's good. That's always that's always better. We're gonna
be I'm gonna chat with some remodelers on Tuesday. I
don't know if you ever met Jim and Jones Stevens.
Narry Dale knows him well, but they do a leadership

(03:34):
thing out of a Boise. They're off from Boise, Idaho.
So we're gonna do a thing on Tuesday morning for
their leadership people. It's the it's all the remodeling stuff.
These are people who've you know, been deep, deep into
remodeling and take it like super serious like yourselves. Right,
it's for them, it's a science, right, So it'll be
interesting to be anxious to get get to get in
front of them. But let's let's dive into the questions

(03:57):
and see what shakes out do do give us calling,
give us a text, so we make sure that we
talk about what's important to you. The I was, I
was thinking about this when I drive through our neighborhood.
Our entire neighborhoods has built you know, pretty pretty brick hombs,
but it's all tumbled brick. And I'm grateful as I

(04:20):
walk around the house, you know, having will be almost
two years in the house now, we're owning the house
two years mid mid month this month, we don't have
challenges with mildew building up, even as humid as we
are here. I'm not sure why. Whether it's the way

(04:40):
the sun hits I don't know, but but I remember
when we bought the house thinking, ah, this is tumbled brick.
Cleaning it and making sure that we keep it clean
is yeah, be careful, right, because if you take heavy
like a big pressure washer or a lot of pressure
to tumbled brick, you're I mean, it's basically a red

(05:04):
brick that's been put you know, literally tumbled put through
a process to get stuff to stick on the outside
of it, to give it's a color, it's color and texture.
So what what recommendations do we make because the question is, hey,
I've got and I pray that it was like they
didn't find out the hard way, Like I took the
pressure washer and now I've got four score feet of

(05:25):
untumbled brick or raw brick. But what what's the best
way forward for for pressure washing or cleaning tumbled brick.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, I think you have to you have to rely
on a cleaner. Yeh uh, that will that will take
care of the stains that you're that you're dealing with.
And then it really just needs to be rinsed with
a with a hose and a and a hose in sprayer.
If you do go with a pressure washer, it needs
to be uh the very like probably one thousand, eight

(05:53):
hundred p s. I just and you know a lot
of times you can do that just to boost the
water to get it up to a second story if
you're trying to rint trying to stay off of the ladder.
So you can certainly apply it with the pressure washer,
use a use a chemical pickup low pressure, right low pressure,

(06:15):
and then and then you can rinse it at a
at a low pressure, you know, and of course if
your pressure washer won't reduce down that low, you just
keep the tip away from it is the key, and
you know, you put a wide spray on it, get
a wide a wide fan, and then just stay back
and hold the water on it long enough to get
it to rinse off. Let the chemical do the work.

(06:36):
I think is really the answer.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I never thought about it, wondering if it's wise to
be to seal tumbled brick versus and normally normally folks,
I mean, we talk about ceiling brick a lot of times,
just to seal the stuff closer to the ground so
the clay. If a clay batters up, you can kind

(06:58):
of wash it off right it does it's you can seal.
You can seal humbled brick just as readily as anything
else you can.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
You just want to stay with h if it's if
it's a and he has any solids in it, you
want to stay with a mate. A matte finished so
there's there's not much shine. The best thing is is
just a penetrating seiler, really, which which stops the moisture
from from going in there. And if you think about it,
if you can keep the moisture out of the brick

(07:29):
and keep it on the surface, then your your mold
mildew dirt, all that is only going to stay on
the surface, and so it'd be much easier to clean off.
So I really think that's the answer. Because the penetrating
sealers silein silen size and those those are it's a
silicone based is what it is. But it's it just

(07:51):
has a carrier, it goes in and then it just
it just seals the water. It's kind of like it's
kind of like protecting your your leather boots or something.
You know, you don't you're not to shine on it.
You're just you're putting something on it to keep it
from absorbing moisture. So I think it's worth it. I
think once it's clean and dry, you do that and
there's you know, we talk about it often on chimneys right.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Right, those areas particularly, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
It's really a good idea to try to keep the
moisture from going into the brick. If you can keep
the moisture from going in, it also keeps you from
eventually breaking down the mortar in the brick. Takes a
long long time for that to happen, but that is exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
What happens, yeah, exactly, And.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
You only have to do it once, so it lasts
for many, many years.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, because it's not getting walked on. Correct, All Right,
we take a break, folks. We are at seven o
four five seven oh eleven ten. Give us a call,
give us a text. We'll talk when we return to
the whole depot Home in Fumage with John and Dave.

(09:18):
Welcome back, everybody. It's the Home Deep Home Improvement Show
with John and Dave.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I'm John Gordon, I'm Dave Doval.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Well answer your home improvement questions. We're at seven o
four five seven eleven ten. Give us a call. We'll
talk about what's important to you. Hey, it just and
I should have said something at the beginning of all
of this. It is worth daylight saving time weekend, right,
so it is it's time to let's see this is

(09:44):
we set our We set our clocks back an hour
this weekend. This is like our favorite daylight saving time adjustment.
Although it's really always nice to get the extra daylight
when when that happens, but it's also our time. We
remind folks, this is the perfect kind of like get

(10:05):
a routine and change the batteries in your smoke alarms.
If you've got the ten year smoke alarm, You're you're good.
No battery change is required, just a lot of it's
just a it's a good time of year to do
the kind of the things that have to be done
that just sort of keep out of put, out of mind,
out of sight, out of mind for the balance of

(10:26):
the year. So there, we'll talk about that a couple
more times. Just you mind everybody to make the changes
this weekend, David. Here's there's two questions that I think
are related, and so I'm gonna I'm gonna lump them
together here. One has to do with a kitchen. In
the kitchen, uh, there was a renovation or a model

(10:49):
and they added an island, and the island has a
sink on it. And then the other one is related
to a laundry room and adding a adding a laundry tub.
But being with code, I think the new code says

(11:10):
you can't tie your you're drained for the laundry tub
and or the washer into like a vent a line
that's also a vent line. I'm probably not saying that correctly,
but the point I think in both scenarios, so the
in the island case, the kitchen island, they're like there's
they think they smell sewer gas in in the in

(11:34):
the around the sink, and and I don't know whether
it's new renovation. I just mean know a lot of things,
but both of them feel like a stuter event or
air emittance valve are the topic of conversation. I'm thinking
in the in the case of the island, it could

(11:56):
be a bad usually in the middle of the house,
like there's no walls around it. Unless they're able to
do something in a crawl space. You don't have a
good vent option and you have to use an air
of it and fell underneath the sink. I mean, is
that true?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, yes, yes, so go ahead.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well I was gonna say, so, if you've got this smell,
get under the sink and look if it should look
like a little kind of It's like a cylinder, a short,
squatty cylinder sitting on top of the drain and that
allows air in and out. As the water moves through.
It creates a minor vacuum that opens the valve lets

(12:42):
air in, so everything drains. But if that diaphragm breaks malfunctions,
get stuck open. Now you've got a straight shot from
the sewer line up into the house. And you can
get the funky funk smell.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Right, it's helpful when you're dieting. So no, but that
that is that's that's correct, and it's usually located. So
it's gonna be up. It'll it'll, it'll stick up, it'll
be it. There'll be a tea and a pipe and
it'll stick up higher. It'll it'll be up to the
bottom of the sink.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Close a little a wax flying around.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, exactly, it looks like it does. Looks like a
little UFO back there. But yeah, they're they're quite handy
and they're being used more and more. Uh, even even
if you do have a wall. You know, when we remodel,
a lot of times they go in just just just
because it's much. It's it's less expense. It's it doesn't

(13:37):
cost as much to do that as it does to
you know, if you're run an event all the way
up and you have to go find a way to
get it up and out of the attic, it's a
lot cheaper than installed the air ad Mint's valve.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I well, and so it is. It is a headache
to run. It can be done. You just got to
find a wall, a chase to run the pipe. But
it's it is. It can be a lot of work
to get at least up into the attic, to tie
into a vent or back out the roof. If you

(14:11):
have to do all that, that's just a lot of work, right,
So I think that's that. The reason I lumped those
two together is I felt like in the case of
the funny smell on an island, I would look for
the I would look for the aramitts of a stuoter
valve and and probably get that replaced. And then it's
a good solution, as you say, in a lot of

(14:31):
different applications.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, it works fine. It just you know, but it's
it is. It is a consumable part. But it takes
many years. And you're right. What happens is the eventually
the petroleum dries out of the rubber diaphragm and then
it doesn't act like it's supposed to. It'll it'll stick.
It just it is what it is. So you and
they just screw on you just you just unscrew them,

(14:56):
take it off, you wrap tape around it, and you
screw a new one back on and you're done.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's universal and at di I Y, I mean technically
d y d I Y friendly solution. Right, you don't
have to hire a plumber. If you're not sure, Send
us a note with a picture, and we'll kind oft
ask John and Dave dot com. We'll kind of walk
you through it. We'll put circles on the picture and
send it back. But yeah, it's it's a fairly easy

(15:23):
it's a fairly common problem. Uh and easy, easy, very
easy to fix all right? Here, Oh, old galvanized gutters?
How old is this house? When's the last time you
saw galvanized gutters?

Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's been a while, it has been a while. I mean,
I'm probably sure I've seen him, but I didn't know
that I was. I was looking looking at him.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
A galvanized gutter looks just the same as an aluminum
gutter until you try to lift it up. But this
says old galvanized gutters. Old galvanized gutters. Inside is black. Okay, okay, okay,
so old galvanized gutters, the inside is black. In a

(16:11):
galvanized gutters, galvanized metal is rust resistant but not rustproof. Right,
So this is going way back. But I think when
when galvanized gutters were the way to go, one painted
like the equivalent of foundation coating inside the gutter to

(16:34):
give it a waterproof surface. So if water sat, it's
sat on this asphalt emulsion, not on the gutter, and
you didn't get rust. It's got to be what it is. Yes,
I really don't know what the question is now that
I it's black. Yes, it's black. It's black because they

(16:57):
painted it with if you if you're if the question
is do I need to do something to it? It's
okay for it to be black. It's not mold and
change them out at your nearest opportunity. Because you got
to paint the outsides. It's a lot, it's a lot
of work. But anyway, that's it. It's black. It's black

(17:22):
because they painted it and it's there to prevent rust.
End of story.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
End of story.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
It's like, sorry, I just I just like write what
I read here. But clearly I did this with there's
not as much thought as I should have. I was like, okay, yes,
well we'll put that down. See what's going on? So
I think that's it. That's got to be it. Otherwise, yeah,
there's nothing else going on inside your gutters. Oh, by

(17:52):
the way, we we we bit the bullet and and
we we did the gutter cover.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Thing here, Oh did you would you up choosing?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Uh? A local guy that how do I say this carefully?
A local person that several of our neighbors used, who
had the exact same product and the exact same application process.
So it's a it's very similar to I can't remember

(18:21):
the one that I see advertised on TV every thirty
six seconds.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Gutter all the leaf anyway, leaf filter.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Leaf filter. Yeah, yeah, so same thing, and yeah, and
I use them. And the just guy was super good,
came out all not time, actually early when it came
to actual installation time. So yeah, so I'm not getting
in the gutters anymore, you know, with my live oaks

(18:51):
that shed in the spring and in the fall, because
you know, certain things are just worth having twice a year,
all right, seven four five seven eleven ten. We got
a minute land, not quite a minute before we got
to take our breaks, so I won't get into this.
I do have well, I have another question for the roof,
but we'll wait till we'll wait till we come come

(19:14):
back from another break. Give us a call. We're at
seven o four five seven eleven ten. Text lines are open.
Watching that I don't think you've seen anything? Are you that?
Nothing there? But we'll take those calls seven o four
five seven eleven ten by phone or by text, and
we'll answer your questions when we return to the Whole
Depot Home Improvement Show with John and Dave. Welcome back.

(19:53):
It's the Whole Depot Home Improvement Show with John and Dave.
I'm John Gordon, I'm Dave Doval. And let's see we're
taking your calls. Give it a shot. We're at seven
oh four five, seven eleven ten by phone or by text.
It's time for our Home People Product of the week.
And this is like a warning whatever, like I don't know,

(20:19):
just a warning. I'm getting ready to get you addicted
because this week's product of the week is an eighteen
volt max output starter kit for rigid to rigid starter kit.
What does it contain? Two batteries and a charger. And

(20:41):
if you buy these two batteries and a charger for
one hundred and forty nine dollars, you can get a
free tool. You can get a blower, a flex tool,
an angle grinder in case you want to break into
the louver, an impact driver, and a circular saw or

(21:01):
a circular saw free, So one hundred forty nine dollars
for the two batteries and the charger, and then you
get a free tool. Let's not be naive. I'm trying
to get you a hook because once you buy the
the batteries and the charger and start putting tools on it,

(21:21):
you can't stop. It's like jelly beans on eastern right actually,
and and let's so that's it. That's that's the home
deepot product of the week. I'll talk about it's a
great time of year to be shopping for stuff though,
because lots of good stuff happening. We're going to try
to get Jeremy Green in here in the next couple
of weeks talking about appliances because that's going to go
nuts for Black Friday. But so, so that's the home

(21:46):
deeper product of the week. Two batteries in the charger
one hundred and forty nine dollars. It's the new it's
the new version the max output lithium ion batteries, so
you do get maximum outputs, you get longer life, they
have better cooling. The charger actually a more energy efficient charger.
So there's all kinds of good technology built into this thing.
But as I picked the product, there is, as we speak,

(22:09):
a similar promotion for Riobi batteries in a charger, get
a free tool, Milwaukee batteries charger, get a free tool.
It's not the idea is, you know, get a look
at going and start building your I hate to say
arsenal because it you know anymore that sounds weird, but
but your tool arsenal, so to speak. And I picked

(22:31):
the I picked a rigid one. Riobe is great, and
there's so many in the one plus, so many tools
in the one plus solution. At the eighteen vault level,
there's another whole world that happening in, you know, the
forty vault. I started hanging around with the Milwaukee guys
the last few years doing different professional events for procusterers

(22:53):
and stuff like that, and I got to tell you
that is like that. Those things are absolutely amaze. But
they're a little more high end on the tool side,
right so, and I don't know that the average bear
needs to have a Milwaukee tool. The pros love them,
but that's the reason I chose the Rigid But check

(23:13):
it out. You can look at a comparable offer for
both Reobi and for Milwaukee. Some pros. If you're thinking
about it, David, how many chargers and batteries do you have?

Speaker 3 (23:25):
We probably have twelve fifteen batteries and four or five chargers.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah every time I so I have I yeah. Anyway,
So it's okay to have a couple extra chargers and
some batteries on the side. I'm just saying it is,
especially when you get into like the projects. You want
to be able to pop one out, pop one in,
keep going and have them right.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
And if you're using multiple tools at once, if you're
easy doing something in production right, so then you're not
changing your batteries. And that's why I have some because
if you're if you're you know, and I don't use
that stuff every sale day, all day long either. So
you know, if I was, if I was, if I
was younger and back in that end of it, then

(24:07):
I probably would have the Milwaukee or the Rigid. It's
just they gave me some stuff when they started out
when we first back when when when Riobi first came
on and they were we were advertising for them, they
gave me a bunch of sample stuff and uh, and
then it didn't make sense for me to switch after
that because I had so much stuff I was.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
It is, it's kind of how it works. And then
the other the other thing, our professionals customers actually purchased
a lot of Riobi tools for their crews, right because
they could do everything that they needed him to do.
It's just that if they grew legs, so to speak, right,
then you could uh.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Well like if you drop it off of the roof
onto the control yeah, you know, it gets destroyed, you know.
And the batteries are normally cheaper and month the batteries
last a long time. I've had I date my batteries,
so I mean when when I get them, I take
a sharpie and I write on the bottom of them.
Uh you know where it plugs against the machine. It

(25:10):
usually doesn't get get much wear. So I date them,
and you know they're lasting three, four or five years.
I probably have some that are that are older than that.
As matter of fact, I still have some batteries that
came with They don't work very well, but with the
remember when they were blue before they change them? Yeah,
and I had that I have. I still have several

(25:32):
of those drills. Isn't that crazy? And the batteries that
came with them, so wow.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah. Anyway, all right, so that's it. We got kind
of carried away there. But this is also we'll talk
about this, you know, over the next few weeks. This
really is from a consumer perspective, the time of year
to get out and get shopping for tools, appliances, and
then all of the various and sundry things like when

(26:00):
I buy saw blades, I buy them this time of year.
I buy a couple extra ones, especially the bigger saw
blades for like my minor saw and tablesaw, because they
put together packages of two and three blades and the
price is ridiculously great. I do.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
So.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, it's a good time of year. It's a fun
time of year from a from a tool perspective as well.
All right, David, Cracks in an asphalt driveway, is there
any way to correct them? It's actually easier to deal
with cracks in an asphalt driveway than it is in
a concrete driveway.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, blends in pretty well. Usually you repair them. So
the processes is it's obviously like any any crack that
you're going to try to fill or put some type
of fluid in it, whether it is a polyurethane base
or whatever. For concrete for asphalt. You're going to clean
out that joint. You can chase it out if you

(26:58):
need to with the grinder, usually you don't have to.
And then they make a filler for that. That's that's
that's a little bit viscous. And you could go in
there and fill it and then after it sets up,
you could come back and seal the whole driveway, which
is part of the reason it cracked. Anyway, it needs
it needs a little needs a little a little love
on top, right, seal it out, keep the moisture from

(27:20):
from going down. And I mean, obviously it's from traffic
and all of that too, but it's it's like anything
it has to have, it has to be replenished.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, and that's a good It's not a daylight savings
time kind of thing, but that's a good routine to have, yeh.
I don't remember. I used to make money during the
summer is when I was in college and just going
doing recoding people's driveways for them, like you would do

(27:50):
one in the neighborhood, and then all of a sudden
you had like five to do, right, and it was
just putting that crack filler and and seil her on
the asphalt driveways because asphalt is a it's a petroleum
based product, right, so it will age just like any
other uh any product along that, and you get a
whole bunch more life out of it if you can.

(28:11):
If you can get a seal, I think that's it.
There's nothing tricky there is that you can get a
I think you mentioned that you can get a more
viscous version that you pour in, or you can get
if you just got a handful of cracks, you can
get a cock tube that has the uh this the
actual crack filler repair in it, right, and then follow

(28:32):
the instructions and seal the driveway, let it dry, rock
on with your bad self well.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
And also you can buy cold patch if you have
if you have a more of a pothole in the driveway,
so if you went too long or it was raining
for a long time and it kept breaking pieces off,
which is what happens, you can you can buy the
cold patch and put in there and just follow the
directions on the bag. But essentially you use your use

(28:57):
your car to compact it. H so you just just
roll over it over it right, and it doesn't really
stick to your tire or make a mess. And that's
and then again after you do that, I would seal
over it. Even if you only seal, you know, if
it was a two foot wide pothole, then I would seal,
you know, four or five feet all the way around it,

(29:18):
and that'll help it. That'll help seal it in and
keep moisture from getting back up underneath it.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
All right, there you go. All right, let's see how
we doing on time here the word just to slip
a little bit past our our required break time, so
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Speaker 3 (30:21):
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Speaker 2 (30:23):
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Speaker 3 (30:35):
Hey, yes, yes, congratulations, this was your thirty one years?
Was it not this month? It was in the middle,
I think you were going.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, I think it was on the eighteenth, or or
maybe the tenth. I can't remember the eleventh, something like that.
You're right, thirty one years.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Thirty one years?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
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yet when we started.

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Speaker 4 (31:25):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (31:26):
My?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
So okay. Here's question comes from a person who just
got an estimate on a new roof and they feel
like the materials portion of the estimate is high, seems high,
and they want to know if there's a way for
them to validate or kind of check the accuracy of

(31:51):
the estimate with respect to the amount of materials required
to do the job. Yeah, there's a lot of ways.
Do you use like eagle you were one of those
things that was I don't know if the average consumer
can do that, though they can?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
You just you just sign up and get an account.
As long as you have a way to pay him,
they don't care who you are.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Uh so you know, and and uh that's that's what
it is. We'll talk more about that. You want to get, Yeah,
let's get Jeff.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, Hey Jeff. Good morning on the Whole Deep Home
improvement Show with John and Dave. How are you this morning.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
I'm good. I hope you guys well, I'm beautiful. We
are already morning. I just went to the trash dump
and uh, my man, it's amazing more people have to
get out this early.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, so it's a pretty pretty day.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Yes, it is. My brother is in a camp camper.
He's older and he's having a hard time getting in
nowt of his camper and he asked me to come
build him around with a platform coming out of his door.
The problem is he's an a camp ground, you know,
he leases his uh space, and I don't know, I

(32:59):
don't think. I mean, I'll definitely talk to the owner
of the property, but I'm not gonna be able to
go in with hold diggers at Mount Posts is their way.
I'll probably use the the square concrete pavers that you know.
The whole nose to go under the ramp. But how
do I anchor that to try to come to code.

(33:20):
I can't mount it to the camp for itself because
it's a movable object. I don't think that's legal. Is
there any way that I can shore this thing down?
It's probably gonna be about, you know, three feet high
by twenty long. You know, I had to do the
rake angle.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Sure, and let me real quick, let me ask you this,
and of course you need to you need to run
this by the owner of the camp campsite as well.
If you look on Facebook, Marketplace or some of these
other places that sell stuff, a lot of times I've

(33:54):
seen ramps on there that are aluminum and they're they're removable,
and sometimes you can buy these things for pennies on
the dollar.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
You know.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
That's a that's a great idea, And that's why I
called you guys.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
That was and and we actually had someone send us
an email. It was probably been a couple of years ago,
and it doesn't do any good now, but they said
that they had a ramp that they would donate to someone.
And so right now, we'll just do that for you.
We'll put that out on the air. If there's somebody
out there that has an aluminum ramp, you know, send

(34:30):
us a note to the Ask John and Dave dot
com or hit the questions button or questions at Ask
John and Dave dot com and let us know. And
then Jeff, you do the same thing, and so we'll
have your information. If something comes down the pipe, man,
we'll be able to get a hold of you for that.
But that is those are considered non permanent, and so

(34:53):
that might be more appealing to the owner of the
campground because.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Let me ask you this, that illuminum that's even lighter
than wood structure. So absolutely is it weighted in the base?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Well, I think they have plates on the bottom to
set on, kind of like scaffolding. I don't know if
you've ever seen scaffolding jacks. Yeah, but that's that's exactly
what they are. And they have adjustable feet, so there's
a you can do an awful lot with them, and
you know, then you just add to them to get
the one twelve pitch that you need correct.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yeah, and probably put something like concrete powders or something
in his weight and you know, for stability or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I don't know if it needs it.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But yeah, that's great.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
And now I'm driving into Charlotte, so it'll be about
an hour or so before I can go on to
your side, but I'll definitely send some information. Say, hey,
this is Jeff Is asking about the ramp. If anybody
can help, I would appreciate. And that what a god
send that would be. And you guys are awesome and
I get to listen to you for your whole show
this morning, so I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
All right, man, good good luck.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Place for the call, Yes, sir, bye bye bye. I think, well,
the if he built it would but metal that I
think they're kind of designed bracing wise to to almost
be self standing.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Are they. I think they have cross bracing in them
so they don't wobble, they don't rock back and forth.
So yeah, I think that be more Yeah, I think
that would be more appealing to the owner because you
could break it down and you know, uh and and
it's and it has value after the fact. So if
they if he moved the camper and they moved away
and he didn't take it with them for some reason,

(36:34):
the owner could and he may want to keep it,
you know, and might have that situation for somebody else
that he could say that we're we're eight A eighty
A accessible, so at least one lot, at least one lot.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, yeah, there you go. All right, great point. We
were talking before, Jeff, just about how do you vowed it?
How does one confirm the amount of materials? And you
can go get a subscription to eagle View. There was
another one that we did a lot of work with.
It's even easier where you would just take pictures of

(37:10):
the four corners of the house and I can't remember
the name of it, but but you can. They will
give you an estimate. What does it cost to get
an estimate on a house?

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Less than one hundred dollars usually?

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Okay, all right, so it's a it's a worthwhile investment
if you were halfway good at geometry and you don't
have a and your roofline is pretty basic. If if
you got just a basic hip roof or a gable,
you know, just a gable roof, even if it's a
reverse gable, you can probably do a little bit of

(37:47):
math to figure it out, but it's it's much easier
to just to do the Eagle View solution and then
you've got I'm.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Just gonna say. Also, just just a for get is
that if if the roof is complex, the more complex
the roof is, the more the more waste they add
to it. So a simple roof will be five to
ten percent waste, and then and then it can go
up from there, so it can go I've seen it
up to twenty twenty five percent. So another thing you
can do is you can go in the attic and

(38:19):
you could count the sheets, apply wood. There you go,
and and that's I've done that before, and that that
works as well. I had to do that at our
townhouse when they were they were going to reroof and
they were about four squares over on each roof at
one hundred and eighty. So that tells you. And I
challenged the guy on it, and then they wouldn't let

(38:40):
me talk anymore at the meeting. So alright, so moved.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
Oh all right on that happy you note, We got
to take a break. You were canceled before cancel was popular,
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Speaker 2 (39:51):
Welcome back, everybody. It's the Home Deep of Home Improvement
Show with Johnna Dave.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
I'm John Gordon, I'm Dave Doval.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
We're at seven oh four five seven oh eleven T
and then give us a call. We'll talk about your
home improvement questions. We talked about validating like quantities out
of roof just using eagle view bust out the sixth
grade geometry book. You can do a lot of it
the same way. Also, it might be even a little
bit of fun in the event that you also enjoy

(40:18):
swallowing mystery. Oh here's one from my own son, Chris.
So he's we were having a beer the other night
and he's like, Dad, something's up at the house. I
cannot have like the sprinkle around outside and run like
a shower tub whatever, Like there's virtually no water pressure.

(40:40):
He's not on a well and I'm like, well, check
your pressure reducing valve and he's like, well, my pressure
reducing valve is a box outside the house, and I'm like,
I know that you can put pressure reducing valves frequently
outside the house. I've not been up there to look
at it. I said, like, we'll take a picture and
and it to David Doval. So I don't know whether

(41:03):
he sent you a picture or not yet what So
when it's in it, you should still be able to
get at it and make an adjustment to it, shouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yes, I would, I would think, so I.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Don't so I don't. I don't know what's up there. So,
but it's just I figured, okay, let's just tee up
the pressure reducing valve solution. Because if you go out
now and like you google pressure reducing valves, I think
you you've mentioned it David a couple of times. We've
we've helped with the problem when there's you know, whistling,
you know, when water comes on and goes off, usually

(41:35):
like some debris, you'll get stuck in there or or whatever.
But you can get versions now that have like easy
like the the shark bite type connections, so you can
arguably do the do the replacement yourself. And they come
with a gauge on them right, so you can actually

(41:56):
see the final pressure as you reduce or increase the pressure.
And so that's I don't know, that's a worthwhile investment
of sorts. I guess if you will is.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, I can tell you the next when I when
I change mine out when it's due, I'm putting one
with a gauge.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
So yeah, it just makes sense. I'm not sure why
we didn't think of that to begin with, but it's
just nice.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
I mean, it's one less step, it's one less thing
you have to do. I mean, you can buy a gauge,
so you don't have to buy one of those. Remember,
you can buy a gauge that you can you can
screw onto a hose anything that has a hose thread,
so if you have a laundry sink with one, but
usually usually they put them on the outdoor hydrant, the
spicott on the house where you attach your garden hose,

(42:48):
and all you do is screw the gauge on there
and have it twisted where it's facing you, and then
just open the valve all the way up and it'll
tell you what kind of pressure getting out there. They're
only ten or eleven dollars for that game. It's you
should have one just just because I don't know why
I think that.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
But well because it could happen. Yeah, you're out to dinner,
the bill comes and the waiter or waitress says, really
need to understand what the PSI at your home is
before we can do anything here. Right, happens happens a lot.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Or if you could tell me what your PSI is
at your spickett at home, I'm going to take twenty
five percent off your bill.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
There you go, right, that's like, let's make a deal.
Remember that show, yeah with Money Hall. If you can
take a half a dollar out of your purse right now,
I'll give you five hundred dollars if you can tell
me what the PSI. The best ones where, if you
can tell me your wife's birthday and guys, look silly,
all right, I'm not sure how we got out of
that time.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
I well, that's what we do. We have to expect
after thirty one years. Hey, real quick for Jeff Man,
I went on I went on Facebook marketplace. There's all
kinds of ramps on there, okay, and one as low
as seven hundred dollars. That's right here in Charlotte somewhere.

(44:14):
It's it's not completely illuminatet looks like it has some
expanded metal for the plate, but it looks like it
was commercially made. So that's that looks like a pretty
good deal. I don't know what you need or what
length it is. You'll have to figure that out. But
there's plenty of them on there, and I don't know
what your budget is, but you probably will have about

(44:34):
the same amount of money in lumber as some of
these ramps. So I hope that works.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
So there you go. Thank you, Thank you for checking
that out. Pardon me, so, speaking of water pressure in
your home? Can I put low voltage heat grids under
engineered wood? I'm just messing around. It's got nothing to
do with water pressure, but that's a good question. Can

(45:03):
you put you know, the radiant heat under engineered wood?
You can put it under ceramic? Can you put it
under engineered wood?

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I think it can go underneath plywood. I know it
goes under ceramic, and you can put it underneath. Uh,
you could put lambin it, I think, and also LVP
over radiant and then also you can also it can
either be hydraunic water forced through a pipe system my brother.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
That's more work that well.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
It is a lot of work. My brother Tim did
one for his friend in Ohio and they had a
cabin in the Wayne National Forest, a big, a framed cabin,
and they they actually put plywood down on three quarter
its plywood, and then he routed, he made a template
and they routed out the plywood and then they fastened

(46:00):
the pipe in there and then they put LVP o
top of it. Yeah, yikes, I know, but it was
it was for their situation because perfect they didn't want
to use electric because it wouldn't do it, It wouldn't
do him any good. There was too cold, so you
had to have water from a boiler, which is what
they did. But that it really worked out well. And

(46:21):
I remember I thought, man, you were crazy and ambitious, but.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
And precise and just think about think about what has
to happen to make.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
That work well. And he did his layout and so
he built his pattern and then he knew where to
put the tap cons to fasten the floor down. And
then and then when he routed with his template, he
missed all those screws. So he had it all. It
was already planned out.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Is a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
It was, but he got it done. He'd get it
done in record time too, So.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Wow, that's pretty slick, all right. So so the answer
is I think that the good advice we would always
give though is check the check the manufacturers or call
their information, because it may not be included in the
general instructions of the of the product that you're putting down,
but it shouldn't be, especially the low voltage versions shouldn't

(47:20):
be hard to deal with. Now, the question is nailing
and not damaging the grid. So it have to be
the floating floor.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
It'd have to be a floating floor, absolutely, and you
know a lot of those floors are intended for to
be set in thin set.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
So right, okay, all right, that's that's a good breaking point.
We've got to slide away for a break. It's the
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Speaker 3 (48:27):
I'm John Gordon, I'm Dave Doval.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Seven oh four five, seven oh eleven ten. That's the number.
Give us a call. Can I put a lot votes?
This easy? Okayn? We answer that question? Ooh, this next one?
Excuse me the willies I've got. There's two questions again
that I lumped together, David. One is I've got water
spouts around the window and I'm trying to figure out

(48:52):
where it's leaking. And then the next one is I've
got standing water on the sill after a heavy rain,
trying to figure out where the water is coming in.
Depending on the kind of windows that you have, I mean,
you might start in different places. Let's tackle the water

(49:12):
spots on the wall first. Well, actually, the odds of
it coming in in the same place are reasonably high
and depends on the what's on the outside of the house, right,
So vinyl siding can sometimes be a culprit where j
channel's been installed incorrectly or not installed at all.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Right, or the window wasn't installed properly right or sealed flashed,
flash tape flashed correctly.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah, right, and then if it's if it's so prime
siding five or cement siding brick. Now you're talking about
cock scenarios and maintaining cock, which sort of begs another
question we talked about, you know, changing your smoke alarms
when daylight saving something happened. It wouldn't be bad to

(50:07):
do an inspection of if you've got you know, masonry
situations or even wood siding, fiber c men siding, just
inspecting the cock joints around windows and stuff. But it's
got I would think it would have to be somewhere
in that mess. And you've just got to figure out
whether you have where there's vinyl siding and j channels

(50:31):
that get looked at. But you may end up having
to pull siding to check and see how that windows
been installed and flat and taped and flashed.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Right, Absolutely is what has to happen. It's the only way.
It's the only way that you could see, uh, you know,
unless you have some way to X ray it, and
we don't, so, yeah, you have to open it. You
have to open it up. And that is this is
and this is what goes on so often out there
when people get windows replace laced there. These guys are

(51:02):
not peeling back the siding. They're trying to put a
replacement window in these holes, and they don't work.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
You have to have a.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Different type of window, and a lot of times the
siding has to be removed in order to fix it.
If it's if it's hard siding, then what you do
is you cut, you make a cut, you make a template,
and you cut around the window and you cut the
siding out. You replace the window, and then you put
trim it out, trim it out with PVC, and then
you calk it and you paint it and you get

(51:31):
on with your life. But if it's vinyl siding, you
have to remove the vinyl siding around the window. It's
just there's there's there's really no way around it to
do it properly. And I'm not saying that people don't
do it. They do and it happens all the time,
but it's it's it's not the correct way if you
want it sealed and you want it done properly.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Okay, So there's some work involved in that that's not
Oh you know, take some pictures when it's raining and
then see what happens. That's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Yeah, and it and it could be an intermittent problem.
It could be when the wind's only blowing out of
the east or the north or whatever direction, and you
have a driven rain. Might be the only time that
it's that the water's getting in there. Most of the
times it may be shetting it off, but once it
gets behind the siding, you know, all bets are off.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
So yeah, it could run anywhere. Pardon me, I'm just
thinking out loud now. Is it possible that it could
be a gutter issue and it's just following a path
down and that's an easy way in. I guess it's
still a problem with how the window is installed or
flash if it's making its way.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
In it is. And and that goes back to our old,
our old trick about when there's a heavy rain. It's
not a bad idea once in a while to get
an umbrella when there's a heavy rain, no lightning, and
get your boots on and go walk around your house
and see what's going on. Make sure the water's staying
in the gutters, it's coming out of the down spouts.

(53:02):
Where's the water coming going when it comes out of
the down spouts? And and just follow the water because
it can change over time. Your the topography of your
your of your of your land can change as it settles.
So you just want to make sure that water is
not backing up and going against the house. Sometimes, John,
it's so slight you can't even see it with the

(53:24):
naked eye. You almost have to have a bunch of
water in order in order to to figure that out.
So and I know that's that's off from from a
leaky window, but uh, you can discover a lot of
things by doing doing that trick. There's a lot more
than just just seeing if your gutters are working properly,
see where the water's going.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
And and then you can, you know, take pictures if
you can, uh, if you need to help explain it
to a contrary.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Here's here's a crazy idea. So we have some friends
that live out in rural Georgia and he hey has
the cameras out all over the property to watch the
deer and the wildlife and stuff like that. I mean, arguably,
you could put a camera system you could, you could

(54:11):
just see what wats what happens right right?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
But I just don't.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I don't know. I think I don't think I should
have said that out loud.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
No, no, no, I don't. I don't know that it's
it's that it's a terrible idea. But I think laying
your eyes on it heavy rain, put an umbrella over
your head if you want, you can put on a
brain coat, doesn't matter. Just you know, don't use common sense,
don't go out there when it's lightning, obviously, But I
just think it's a great way to see what's going on.
And it needs to be a fairly heavy rain, you know.

(54:42):
A lot of times these a lot of these gutter
products are demonstrated with with with a with a small
amount of water coming down. But you and I both
know that if it's if it's gushing, that's a big difference,
uh on how those products work.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
kN We're gonna get you on here in a second.
But it kind of goes back to our question about
what's the size how much how many singles should I
put on my roof? Well, that's how many square feet
you have collecting water, you know, and it's running and
it keeps coming right, So it's a lot. All right,
Let's talk to John. John, good morning. I'm the home
Deep Home Improvement. So with John to Dave, how are
you all right?

Speaker 7 (55:18):
Good question. We have a home on Lake Wiley and
it's it's we've got vinyl siding and we're looking at
replacing it. We're kind of thinking hardy board, but I
know there's a bunch of them out there. How do
we how do we make that decision as to which
siding is going to be best for our location, our application.

(55:40):
I like low maintenance or no maintenance, yeah, ably, but
but you know, how do we how do we make
that decision?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
So is John, is your question between manufacturers or between
types of siding solutions?

Speaker 7 (55:54):
The types of siding?

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Okay, all right, So I think I think David and
I would tell you that you're you're looking the right
way when you think about fiber cement siding. It's not
it's not God's solution for siding, you know, until the
end of the world. But it's a really good product.
It's not maintenance free, but it's very low maintenance because

(56:17):
if you can get you can get factory finished siding.
Sometimes the siders don't like work with that so much
because you just got to be a little more careful.
But but it's very low maintenance because it is so stable, right,
so you don't have issues with paint packing and cracking
and peeling, and so a paint job on a fiber

(56:39):
cement product lasts a long time. When we did our
home in Atlanta, I think we went almost eleven or
twelve years and then I redid it only because we
wanted to change the color as a function of some
other outside work that we had done. So pretty stable product.
There's there's a lot of different as you can go. John.

(57:01):
You don't have to go just with a lap siding
they make or stuck a looking product. They make what
is the gingerbread kind of version that you can put
up on a gable and so you can really yeah, exactly,
thank you. So there's a lot of ways that you
can go. The biggest thing that you want to consider

(57:21):
if if you choose the fiber cement is to make
sure you get a quality installer because there's a couple
of things that need to happen when the installation is
going on, Like they need to put a little piece
of flashing behind your joints and and just different things
for the nailing schedules and stuff like that. But David,

(57:42):
I think to move from vinyl to a fiber cement,
or from a vinyl to an LP use LP superside
as a superside smart side smart side. Thank you. That
was one that you used on your own home, also
pre finished at the factory, right.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
And I think I may be. I think I might
would would go since he's by the lake, if you're
by the water, I may stick with the fiber cement, Okay.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
But so John, I hope that that helps out. We've
got to slide away for a break here, so we'll
leave John on hold just in case we've got to
come back and answer him off the air. Seven O
four five seven eleven ten. We'll chat when we returned
from these important messages. Right, Welcome back. It's the Home

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Deep Home Proved Show with John to Dave. I'm John Gordon,
I'm Dave Doval seven four five seven eleven ten. That's
the number for phone, for text, Give us a call,
give us a text. You got a couple of texts
to jump on here, David, did you get John squared
away during the break?

Speaker 3 (58:47):
We did Okay, all right, so I think.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
The fiber cement solution is a good one for him.
Let's do our Home Depot product of the week really
quickly here. Last last hour I mentioned it that I
was getting ready to be like a drug dealer and
get you hooked on some stuff. And this week's Home
Depot product of the Week is a rigid eighteen volt
Max output starter kit. So it's two four amp hour

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batteries and a charger and you're like, well, what are
you gonna do with that? It's one hundred and forty
nine bucks. It could be really expensive paper weights, or
if you buy it, you can get or when you
buy it, you can get either a blower or another charger,
a flex tool, an angle grinder, an impact driver, or

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a circular saw free no charge. And honestly, know who's
kidding who The idea is to get you started on this.
If you have you know a couple that got married
this past year and they're just they're buying a home
and they're kind of new novice, do it yourself is
help them get started with some tools. Because once you
get into this thing, there's all kinds of promotions all

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year long. You can get tools. You can get combo
kits and it's great, and I've focused on the Rigid
one because I think Rigid is a step up toward professional.
It is a professional grade from Riobi. Although I love
Reobi and David to your point, it's been an awesome
product for you. And then Milwaukee, I just think is

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the bomb, but it's more expensive and it might not
be the best investment for a consumer, although the pros
love every piece of Milwaukee tool that they can get
their hands on. Okay, so that's it. That's our Home
Depot product of the Week this week. One of the
texts that came in, David, I think this was when
you guys were talking was asking about fireproof blankets that

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you guys had talked about a couple of weeks ago,
and the question was where can you get them? I'm
presuming you may even have been looking at I don't
know whether it was a product of the week or not, David,
but okay, so it's hit the home depot. You can
get a two pack of like eight by ten, which
is pretty big, for around seventy bucks, or you can

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get one for the for like the kitchen for thirteen bucks,
or I think a three pack or five, I can't
remember how many inches. Yeah, so but that's a great idea,
love how you're thinking about taking care of folks. It's
a great, very practical Christmas gift. So that's where you

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can pick them. I just go to home depot dot
com and search fire blankets and it'll come up. And
there's probably other places that you can get them. Also.
I don't work for the home Depot anymore, but I
am retired and I do count of retirement and come,
so shop away. Clyde. Let's talk to Clyde. You're on
the Whole Deepo home improvement show with JOHNA. Dave. How

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are you Clyde?

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Gods? How are you all doing today?

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Doing well? How can we help?

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Okay, we're getting ready to get our cross space encapsulated
and get all that fixed up. And I was in
there yesterday and notice that one of the brick pillars,
you know, there's like twelve of them around the house
that it sits on, has collapsed because I guess of
the ground settling under it. Is that a major problem?

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It didn't look like there was any you know, settling
where that thing was. But should I address that before we?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Yeah, it needs to go back in there. There's supposed
to be uh eight eight foot on center for the
for the beams somewhere in that area for the main beams,
and then your joist are connecting h to to those.
So yeah, it's it's needed and they can rebuild that
if you need someone uh to that that does something

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like that. Wolf Wolf Construction out of Moorsville does a
pretty good job with that. They do a lot of
cross based repairs for a lot of the foundation companies
and crass based companies out there. That's that's what they
do and they're good at it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Okay, I was going to ask you that, So yeah,
I'll take care of that, and that's what I needed.
And I appreciate you giving me their names and enjoy
your program.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
All right, man, thanks for the cal Clyde uh huh yeah,
great one. All right, David. Here's a text from Chris.
I have natural stone put having natural stone put on
a new garage trying to match the house that was
built in nineteen seventeen. Beautiful. I want the stone to

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go all the way up to the windows of the
old house to wrestle be shingles. See the picture there's
a great picture here. What's the best way to waterproof
the wood behind the stone? Right now? We just have
house wrap. I'm thinking like, welly am I drawing a
blank like the fire and ice type product.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Well, yeah, and they make a liquid membrane, multiple products
out there. I used a product around my windows called
Blue Barrier and it comes in buckets and it basically
you could you could paint it on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
If I'm putting something up there that's permanent like that,
I'm gonna spend a little bit extra money and I'm
gonna do I'm gonna do that. Or the product you're
talking about, John, uh uh, and it's ice and water
shield is is granulated. But you can buy products that
are peel and stick membranes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
That's what I'm trying to think that, yes exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
And so you can do a peel and stick membrane
and then you roll it. But the key is that
it has to be rolled. It's pressure sensitive, so you
really need to do that. The beauty of that product
is and I know it's where you were going, John,
was that once you if you have to put any fasteners,
if you're putting there, putting lath up it's self healing
around the nail, so once the nail penetrates, it closes

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back in seals around the fastener and and it's just
a full proof system. It's the way to go. So
either a liquid applied membrane or or go to that
peel and stick is what I would do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Good deal, Chris, I think. I hope that's helpful. I
hope never send us a note if you still have
additional questions. Here's one more. When I had my roof replaced,
they nailed my leaf protector over my shingles. Oh, that
sounds like I might have the order wrong. When the

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gutter people came to put them on, they said they
would take off the first two layers of shingles and
replace those before putting the gutters on because of the
holes that we be left if they correct, right, Okay,
it's cutting the leaf guard. So the question is to
save money, can I cut the leaf gutter? Well, you

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kind of got a problematic scenario to start with there,
I feel.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Like absolutely all the way around.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Yeah, so the leaf going over the shingles is where
we got in trouble. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Whoever did that is the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Go ahead, I know what they're saying. So there, what
the roofer is saying is that they can they can
take a razor knife and just cut that aluminum strip
off or rubber strip whatever it is where they fastened through,
and and then they can they can put their their
gutters up and then they could just leave that strip.
While I know they cacked, they probably cocked. Every nail

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head still wasn't It still wasn't the right way to do.
It's supposed to be underneath the shingles and there should
be no no exposure to a nail head. So there's
only a few places on the roof that that happens
that it's exposed, and it's and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Not the end of your ridge cap. Yeah yeah, there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
The bottom of your your vent boots or other vents
on the roof can have nails and they're usually cocked.
But this is that's a problem because what will happen
is even though the nailhead is caught, the water still
could get underneath the strip that they nailed down and
find its way to the shank of the nail and
run down in that hole. So the gutter people are right,

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that is the correct way to do it. Now there
is another thing that they could do, John and so,
and I don't know that it's going to save them
any money. But you could put flashing over this and
then down to the gutter. But I I don't know
that you're gonna save money. They'd have to go up
another row of shingles and raise that shingle up and tuck.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
That under eath underneath.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
If you're gonna do that, you might as well just replace,
replace the shingles. I just I just think you're gonna
spend this money, and you're gonna do this, and you're
gonna end up You're gonna end up coming back and
happen to know. I'll only replace the shingles because there's
holes people, somebody drove nails through the face of the shingle.
But you're also going to end up with rotten plywood

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underneath it eventually, and and God forbid rotten rafters, or
if it leaks into your sowets and rot your softts out,
because here's the thing, you won't know until it runs
through the softs and they're rotten.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Until the damage is done.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
The damage is done, and it'll be expensive damage.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Yes, I'm sorry that that's not better news. But I
think you've got to bite the bullet. Yeah, yeah, just
this is I guess. All right, Well, we'll keep moving.
But so I don't have a name on this one.
But if you have additional questions to shoot us and
not the questions that ask John and David textus.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
And and I'll talk to a buddy of mine that's
roof and we may come up with another solution. But uh,
shoot right off of the hip. That's that's where I
think we're at.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Okay, So all right, so yeah, but this is the
thing when you when you're looking at even when John
was talking about you know, five or cement and siding options,
a large portion of whatever goes up is a function
of the installation person. But a good gutter cover solution

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should not include piercing the shingles. That's It's just that simple, Okay.
Chris says, thank you for the uh the waterproofing solution
for under his uh under his stone Veneer. We have
to take a break and we'll be back to answer
more of room improvement questions when we return to the

(01:09:39):
Home Depot Home Improvement Show with John and Dave. Yeah,

(01:10:06):
welcome back. It's the last segment of the Home Deep
Home of from show with John and Dave. I'm John Gordon,
I'm Dave Doval and uh it gives a call seven
four five, seven eleven ten. We'll sneak you in before
the end of the show here. Uh, I think just
going back through the texts, we've covered off on everything. Uh,
just one comment, which is a good point. The company

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encapsulating the cross space should have caught the collapsed pier.
That's uh, that's why you always call dry Pro this
this doesn't even appear to be from a dry Pro person. Well,
somebody used dry Pro a customer, so good for them.
And I was I was unclear when the caller. The

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caller may have been going down themselves to look at
getting that done before they had somebody come out. So yeah,
and the defense indefense of whoever may have been looking
at that, I think that the homeowner themselves discovered it
before anybody went underneath. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
And the reason and it's not just a structural thing,
but the reason you would want to get that done
multiple reasons, really structural one, but two you wouldn't want
to be going in there and and and messing around
over top of the new liner like that, and then
and then they actually run that membrane up around the piers.
So it's it's so it technically it's it's it's air

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tight underneath there from from the dirt below to the room.
If you've never been in an encapsulated cross space, it's
it's actually well for somebody that's been going underneath houses
for basically my whole life. I love it. There's nothing
like it. You don't have any overalls or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah, it's pretty great. Uh So, a lot of a
lot of good to come from that. All right, go
ahead real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
I wanted to talk about something, uh a couple of things.
One with the product of the week with the rigid
with the rigid batteries and the charger. I was I
was having a conversation with someone that's in the insurance
industry not long ago, and do you know that that
is quickly becoming the leading cause of fires are lithium chargers,

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batteries and those things. So just just a word of caution,
and that's why the conversation come up. They said, might
be a good thing for you to talk about on
the show, is make sure that you're unplugging those chargers. Yeah,
or releasing the batteries from those chargers when they're done.
And this is this is what I've done, was I

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put a I put my battery chargers on a plug strip,
and I put my plug strip plugged into a timer,
and so it disconnects the power after so long. So
I know that it takes about forty five minutes to
charge a battery, so I could just hit that timer
for forty so after forty five minutes, there's no power

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are going to that charger anymore. It's quick and simple.
Does it cost a lot to do it, and and
it'll help you. You could also, John, you could also
build yourself a little uh a timer outlet with a
countdown timer. So you'd push the button, you know, the
same switch that we use exhaust.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Fans exaxactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
That switches like twenty five bucks, and and you push
that button for sixty minutes, and guess what, the power
goes off after sixty minutes and you don't have to
worry about it. So if you're charging lawnmower batteries or
your tool batteries, any batteries like that that are one
hundred and ten volts, because that's what happens is we
plug them in and we forget about it because we're

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not using it, and then we go off and then
they can overheat and they cause fires. But they are
saying that that is becoming a big, a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
So that's that's a really great point. I know that
it doesn't make barb happy when I'm charging like my
my batteries. I've got some like on the workbench in
the garage. If I'm if I'm gonna be out there,
I know to turn it off, but I put it
in one really like conspicuous place. So if even if
we go out for dinner or come back, like I

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can't walk past it without unplugging it or making it.
The other thing, yeah, well I haven't done that because
I don't know how hot they get, and you know,
like that would be like smoking in better or something.
I don't know, but but yeah, the other thing is
selfishly the life of the battery. Like it, you shouldn't

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leave the battery in as a in a charger as
a storage solution. Now, some chargers shut down, right, but
it's a little bit more sophisticated. Typically, the basic ones
that you're getting don't do that, so you shouldn't. You
should charge the battery and then when it's fully charged,

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it needs to come out the charger and the charger
get unplugged. That's a really great point.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Just disconnect. As long as you're disconnecting the power from
the charger, doesn't matter how you do it right, So
just make sure the power goes off. I guess we
should do a little thing, make a little a little
something put on the website, maybe a little some pictures
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
What do you think take a picture?

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
What you got to send me? Five dollars, I'll send
you the plans.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Hey, good call. People spend a lot more on a
lot worse. All right, let's see a couple of things
hanging out here. Oh my gosh, it's going to be
so close to time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Yeah, we won't make it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Yeah, that won't make it, So we'll save it for
next week. Just one of them is kind of like
what plumber Tim did, But this is just in a
basement application just coming up with a new floor. Another
one's a vaulted ceiling and stuff like that. So we'll
save it. Well, God willing be here next week to
talk about home improving stuff. It's daylight savings time. Weekend.

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So number one, don't forget to set your clocks back,
although if you show up early for church, take an
hour to pray wouldn't kill anybody, And check your smoke
alarms and do all the things that we do twice
a year carbon monoxide alarms and all those things. And
remember that even during same daylight savings time, when you

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get an extra hour of sleep, still the most important
count of home improvement you can make is the one
that makes your home a happier place to live in,
even if it's an extra hour of sleep. So don't
forget to work on that project this week, and we'll
see you next week. I'm the Home Deep Home improvement
Show with John and Dave se