The Home Improvement Show 11-22-25

Tune in here for this 11-22-25 episode of the Home Depot Home Improvement show on WBT with John Gordon and David Dovell.

On this edition of the program, John and Dave talk about the fast-approaching holiday season, the early rush of Black Friday deals, and the wide range of home improvement products now hitting the shelves.

Danny Watson from The Home Depot joins to discuss some of the Black Friday Specials that are available. jeremy Green from The Home Depot joins to discuss all things appliances, including how to decide what is best for your situation, and mistakes to avoid.

There was additional discussion about LED lights including when not to use them.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Home Devol Home Improvement Show with John and Dave
present a bye try pro answering your home improvement questions
every Saturday on News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine
three WBT.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good morning, everybody, Welcome to the Home deepa home improvement
show with John and Dave.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I'm John Gordon, I'm Dave Doval.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good morning, David Doval.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
How are you good, my friend? How about yourself?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Doing well? Doing well? Headed into official I guess the
holiday starting next week, Thanksgiving on Thursday, and mayhem ensues
not necessarily, but it's a busy time. It's a good time.
It's a great time. It's a really good time to
kind of keep your head, enjoy a little bit of
what's going on. Don't get too wrapped up in all

(00:45):
the nonsense. We got a lot going on in our
own two hour world this morning. We are always taking
your calls at seven o four five seven eleven ten,
and we take your texts at seven o four five
to seven eleven ten, the WBT text line driven by
Liberty Buwick GMC. That's been really good, very grateful for that.

(01:08):
And then we've got last week. I don't know if
you remember we said we were going to have someone
from the Home Depot join us once a quarter. They
kind of give us a rundown on the big activities,
and we try to time it when there's you know,
some of the cool stuff going on and Friday, this
coming Friday's Black Friday. There's all kinds of stuff out
there ready, So we'll try to get our head wrapped

(01:29):
around that a little bit this hour. The next hour, David,
I've been promising to get Jeremy Green in here. Jeremy
is a gentleman that I worked with, not in the
same department. He was one of our merchants, but he
was my partner whenever we had to do large appliance programs,
you know, for some of our large national account customers.

(01:51):
And what I love about Jeremy is a he's really knowledgeable.
He he just kind of speaks unfiltered and will tell
you what he's thinking and what works and doesn't work.
And so I just asked them, I don't know, there's
a lot out there there's confusing. In my opinion, it's
not confusing, but it's like conflicting almost, like well, what
is you know, a good appliance brand and what is

(02:13):
the best way to think about stuff. So we're just
going to try to do some education in our second hour.
He'll he'll join us after our break at the top
of the hour. So there's a lot going on that
should still be in addition to whatever calls you've got.
I always davioud, I always worry. I know we've discussed this.

(02:35):
When we get on a particular topic that folks think
they can only call it that's their line of questions.
If we're talking about washers and dryers or mechanics tool sets,
and you've got a question about plumbing or air conditioning
or whatever, call us. We don't care. And I in
particular specialize in add so it'll be, uh, it'll be

(02:58):
like a welcome thing. Oh look, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel, scrorel.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
It's technical technically, it's their show, so exactly right.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
That's that's why we do it. Right, There's a million
other things, and it's always been for thirty one years,
you know, something, to try to make the very best
possible information available. So that's it. Anything rock in.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Your world now, just trying to trying to wrap up
some projects and get settled down for the I'd love
to be able to take some time off in December,
and guess what I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Good for you? I mean, are you close?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, it work is the big time to get everything
wrapped up before guests started coming to right.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah, it's just that time of year and it's tough.
And the bathroom we're on so we're not The tile
didn't get started, so there's not going to be anyone
using this bathroom, probably for Thanksgiving maybe brow but it's
a hall bathroom and it's it's not the end of
the world, so it'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Fine. I I think.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
They said everybody has to go to the bathroom before
they come over.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh, I only put a portage on the front lawn.
That's always big, big with the HOA.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
That's all good. We saved the old toilet.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
So that's even better. Oh my gosh, let's change the
topic I was. I was speaking of timing though I
was reviewing just different challenges and planning home improvement projects
and stuff like that. And almost every time you look

(04:38):
at people's commentaries or guidance from people who who are
in the business for a living, there's two things that
always loom large. One you would you would guess, is
how much does it cost it. Oops, I forgot to
allow for permitting costs, so I forgot to allow you know,
for this cost of that cost. And it can add

(05:00):
up quickly if you're not careful. And then the other
is time. I didn't allow enough time for the product
to get shipped, or I didn't allow enough time for
you know, any kind of delay, and a lot of
delays happen. It's just it's almost inevitable. And it feels

(05:23):
like even though the supply chain is fundamentally you know,
recovered from all the insanity it was COVID there, it
just feels like there's still pressure on supply chain stuff,
so things take a minute to get in. I don't
know if you see that.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
In your world or not a little here and there,
not not not much, but it's it's really not been bad.
Most things come. I mean, I'm amazed. Actually, we were
just talking about that the other day about you can
go on your phone and yeah, order something, and the
next thing you know, somebody's knocking at the door, you know,
or yeah, no, it's true, I was been delivered.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
You're like, what, yeah, and it's in your email whatever,
it's yourre and I actually I don't work for Home
Depot anymore, so, I guess I can say this, but
I have been just online ordering online at Home Depot
for the flip house that we're doing for my personal stuff,
and I've been blown away by how fast that stuff

(06:25):
comes and I can either go pick it up in
the store or it's on my front door, as you say,
or on my front doorstep. I was kind of surprised.
I don't know why I say that. That's terrible. Something's
gonna be mad at me for saying I was surprised.
But it's been it's been really good.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
It's impressive.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, when you think about how we started to trying
to fulfill orders out of that window over road store,
you know, twenty years ago. All right, let's take a break.
We're at seven oh four five seven eleven ten or
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(07:01):
Improvement Show, which on to Dave. Welcome back, It's the
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Speaker 3 (07:13):
I'm John Gordon, I'm Dave Doval.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
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It's an awesome thing to see the look on the face,
especially someone who may not be expecting anything. Okay, we're

(08:44):
taking calls. We're at seven oh four, five, seven eleven, ten.
We've got we've got a lot on the table this morning.
But David, there were a couple of things that were
hanging over from last week. And I know we've tackled
this before, and I can't remember whether we brought up
up and that didn't have time. So I'm just gonna
throw it out there and let's see what's happening. But
it's flickering lights. And it doesn't say whether it's like

(09:07):
fluorescent lights or what time of lights are, what kind
of lights, But flickering lights typically indicate just a bad
wire connection somewhere. It can't be a switch, right, but
isn't it usually just like a bad neutral or bad
it is.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
It could be a loose wire. It could be in
the in the fixture itself. It could be in the
box that's underneath the fixture where it's tied together. It
could be a bad switch. It could be a bad
a neutral loose in the in that box. Or it
could be a neutral that's loose on that entire circuit
back at the panel. So and there, I think, John

(09:40):
is when we recommend electrician. You know, why why is
the wire? You know, why is it loose? You know,
how did that happen? Was it not put together properly?
Is it an oversized ball? Heating up? Expanding contracting? You know?
Do you have aluminum and copper wire tied together?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
So?

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Too many things, so many things think about I wouldn't
say it's too many things, but I just think that's
when you need to really enlist the services of an
electrician or someone that's capable, that understands, understands all of
that so that that you don't have a problem, because
you know, from a loose wire generally generally can lead

(10:18):
to a fire. So yeah, you know, it's it's worth
it to have someone take a look make sure everything's good.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, it's I mean, if you're arkan, yes, that's that's
a spark, right right. So you also brought up something
that we haven't talked about in a while, and I
think it probably becomes well, I don't know, I was
gonna say it becomes less and less relevant as as
new new construction occurs, but the age of the housing

(10:48):
stock in the US arguably continue the average age of
the housing stock continues to go up because we're just
not building new homes at the same rate. But and
I don't have statistics, so I guess don't quote me
on that. And that's almost irrelevant if you're home providers.
But the reason I bring it up is we've had
lots of people called in a total panic because they

(11:10):
really loved a house that they wanted to buy, but
it had aluminum wire in it, and they're like, oh,
my gosh, I can't I can't buy that house. It's
going to burn down. And that's not even close to true. Right, No,
be careful with aluminum wire and make sure all your
connections are tight, and you can put you can mix

(11:32):
in certain scenarios illuminum and copper if if the connection
is done right and if you're using the right things
to prevent oxidation and so on. But but a house
with aluminum wire done correctly is fine.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
But here's here's and in my opinion, my opinion only,
But if you if you buy an older house like
that and you're going to remodel it, and you opening
it up. That's the time to switch.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Time to fix it all out.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, get it, get it pulled out. And everything has
a life expectancy, so you know, you have to kind
of plan on that. And and it's tough.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
You know.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
You go buy a house and you pay a pretty
decent amount of money for them these days. Who knows
what the average is truly, But then you go in
there and you spend another one hundred thousand or two
hundred thousand fixing them up. You know, but once you
do that, you basically have a new house again, so
you can update and and it and I think the

(12:28):
other thing that just you that that that needs to
be brought So people understand a lot of times when
you remodel a room or you do certain things. Once
you start opening up walls and ceilings, then then if
if everything is permitted, they can they can. They kind
of lead you down the path that you have to
upgrade things. You went through that in Atlanta, right right, Yeah,

(12:51):
So it's smoke detectors throughout to make them make them
work together, because once you go so far, they know
that you're you're in a position to be able to
do that without a tremendous amount of expense it does.
Don't get me wrong, There's still going to be expense
at it, right, But but they bring you up to code.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
And with a I don't know, I will say no
exceptions because I'm not intelligent enough to offer an opinion.
But as a general rule, code is there for a reason.
And like you and I have joked about it in
the past, that code is the minimum. Right, So like
if you were going to school, this is terrible equivocation.

(13:34):
But if you're going to school, code is a d
like just that's some minimum you got to get to pass.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
And then exactly you can do.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
You could David doble it and get a plus and
you know, be on the Honor roll in the Dean's
List and all that stuff, or or you can pass.
But anyway, so it's it's well.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
And that kind of ties into what we were talking
about when you said it, the word arc which the
new breakers they pick up that stuff and they go off,
so it's a safety feature. Wasn't a huge fan of
them at first. Still don't appreciate the expense that it
costs for a job, but it is what it is,

(14:13):
and you have to do it.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
But if you have that.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Arcing or an appliance or something that's acting up or
that maybe is on its on its last leg. Those
arc fault breakers, these new breakers that are in all
new construction. They they they they find that and they'll
trip and until you take that appliance offline or get
the problem fixed whatever it is, that breaker's not going

(14:38):
to reset. It's just going to keep tripping.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
So that, in a.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Way is a good way to protect people and keep
people safe from things like that.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
So yeah, it is good, and they can be They
are expensive and they're frustrating. And I had and I've
had one to our house is what ten years old,
And I had one go bad right because it kept
tripping every time bar abuse the vacuum cleaner in one
particular outlet. I'm like, okay, so I just went to
another ARC fault protected outlet, turned the back because it

(15:08):
could be the vacuum cleaner too. There could be something
minute that's defective, right.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Right, usually it is, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
And so I tried it on another outlet. Arc fault
protected outlet worked fine. Ended up being I had to
replace the breaker, right because they breakers can go bad as.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Well, Oh they do, they do regularly. So but I mean,
you know, if the old breakers lasted a long time,
it's it's a little different now with the electronics stuff
we have, but uh still worth it and and potentially,
you know, it saves lives and saves properties, so it's
probably it's probably a good thing, as much as aggravating
as it can be.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, when it's happening, you're not happy. But then when
bad things don't happen. So here's speaking of bad things
and speaking of electricity. We are headed into the holidays.
I don't know where what it's like in Charlotte now,
we actually in our neighborhood have people who have some
version of Christmas decorations up already. Guracious. I love Christmas,

(16:10):
but man, I like Thanksgiving too, but uh, over overloading
circuits for the holidays. I don't even know where to
start because it's kind of a common sense thing. But
a couple of things, you know, what we talk about
is use you know, use power strips. Don't make the

(16:32):
octopus in the wall, you know, you know, with you know,
a dozen different wires coming out of a single outlet.
If you're using extension chords, use exterior you know, use
an extension cord. That can be used outside and size
it right, Like if you're going to run a long way,

(16:53):
a twelve gage extension cord is probably what you need.
But then yeah, it's just be safe.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
I guess that exactly.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I mean the saving grace with the modern lights is there.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Led they sip electricity.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, so it's not as bad, but it's still you
still should follow those practices.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah. Anyway, I figured I better just stick that in
there as before we before, I just like blow past that. Look,
I think we are about thirty seconds away from our
next break, so we'll go ahead and sneak on out
to do that. We've got a lot of questions back, David.
One of them is about LED's and we'll tackle that
when we come back. But we want to make sure

(17:39):
we're talking about what's important to you, So give us
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We're going to take a break. I'm gonna go find
some coffee and we'll be back to answer your homeroom
of questions when we return to the Home Deep Home
Improvement Show with John and Dave. Welcome back. It's it's

(18:00):
the Home Deep Home Improvement Show with John and Dave.
I'm John Gordon, I'm Dave Doval and as promised, we've
got a guest hanging in the wings there for us.
Danny Watson's joining us from the Home Depot. Danny, good morning.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
How are you have a little bit of trouble here?
You guys, you're not coming through real clear?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
All right, We'll see if we can potch you up
on this. And you're coming in just fine. And you've
got to do most of the talking, so we'll let
you get at it.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
But you know what, it's coming through fine now, had
a little interest.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, good, good, good? Well. Thanks. Hey, you got a
great radio voice. By the way, I'm gonna call you
in a couple of weeks when I want to just
chill on a Saturday.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Morning and Andy's on vacation right now.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Oh my gosh, you are a hero. Thank you for
doing this. I don't know what's harder, slipping away from
a home depot store to do this or slipping away
from vacation. But thanks for making the time. There's a
ton of things to go over Black Friday, David and
I do a home Depot product of the week, and
it's it's always fun to kind of pick something and
throw it out there. But when I looked at this
list what's going on for Black Friday, I kind of

(19:01):
my head began to spind. I know that David and
I love to talk about the tool stuff. We think
it's a great time of the year to buy accessories,
you know, the k the kits and the you know things.
But talk talk for a second about a tool piece
of it, and then and then we'll let you get
into like a lot of the other holiday things that
are going on out there.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
For sure.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
While Black Friday sales happening right now through Wednesday, December third,
And I mean, we have got everything to bring your
holiday ideas to, like whether it's decorating, you know, gifting,
seasonal projects, just just everything that you need. But yeah,
some of the tools, there's some some of our favorites
right now that's happening. You can get an absolute free
power tool right now when you buy Select battery, your

(19:46):
tool purchase kit, your toolkit.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
And that's for brands like Riobi, Milwaukee, Dwalt, Mkita, rigid All,
your favorite brands. You get absolutely free tools, so you
just can't beat that. Some of the other really cool
deals I think right now get free delivery on appliances
when you spend three ninety six or more, and kitchen
appliances are huge right now. But yet talking about some

(20:09):
of those tools, you guys, my absolute favorite, and I
think this is honestly, I'm just gonna say it's I
think it's the best deal in the house. But it's
that Husky Mechanics tool set, two hundred and eighty pieces.
It's usually one ninety nine, and this time of year
it goes down half price for a ninety nine bucks.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
I think you just can't beat.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
That if there's somebody who doesn't have any tools or
the mechanic that I think is one of the best
gifts that we have. Some of the other things. I mean,
we've got the Milwaukee eighteen volt lithium ion brushless cordless
Brad Naylor that makes the job so much easier, usually
two ninety nine, it's now two seventy nine. And there

(20:46):
is a host of more tools we can talk about
as well. But some fantastic deals right now, he's just
going a miss.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, So Interestingly enough, the Husky Mechanics tool the two
and an eighty piece tool set is our Home DEEPO
Product of the Week for this it's just a ridiculously great, ridiculous,
a great deal. What about Jeremy Green actually is going
to join us. Are all from HUT to talk about
appliances in the next hour? What about like Christmas decorations

(21:19):
hit the stores? I feel like back in June, it's
not really, but talk about some of the Christmas decorations stuff,
because David and I don't always do as good a
job as we should on that.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
Sure sure, well, you know, obviously we have the live
Fraser firs and trees, but we also have a lot
of our other decorations as well. Some of the deals
that is going on right now. We've got our Home
Decorators collection seven and a half foot Breckenridge downswept Fraser.
It's an artificial tree. It is absolutely beautiful pre lit
three forty nine. You really can't miss that just and

(21:55):
they're great because that's permanent, you not replace it. And
then our inflatables, it's nice about them. The kids absolutely
love them, and they're easy to store and they're easy
to pop away. In a little box, put them away
and doesn't take any room in the garage. But the
Home Accents Holiday three piece Yule Tide collapsible Snowman family
is the kids love it ninety nine bucks right now.

(22:17):
You just can't go wrong with that. And of course
our Holiday Home Accents Holiday one hundred count that's the
warm steady white Lights LEDs nineteen ninety eight. So much
fun when you get outside decorating or putting on your tree.
But yeah, there is so much right now, some great
deals on our artificial and reads.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
There's so much right now. What about We're going to
spend a bunch of time not necessarily talking about appliant
specials or promotions in the next hour, really kind of
educating folks about how to make a good appliance decision
and so on. But I feel like there's always like
crazy good appliance steals during Black Friday. Also, you're right,

(22:58):
and this is some of.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
The best steals of the season. Just like an example,
the GE thirty five burner element free standing electric range.
It's stainless still it's normally six ninety eight right now,
so you're going to save a bunch on that. And
then I feel like everybody can use a chess freezer.

(23:19):
I know a lot of times my freeze is always
running over and it's nice to have one out in
the garage. Right now, you can get the designing five
cubic foot with a with an LED light inside two
thirty nine. It's down to one ninety nine. I think
that's super help.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
That is good. That's good. I feel like there was
something from a safety perspective that you wanted to talk about, David.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
What were what were seeing while we were just talking
about real Christmas trees? Okay, so and he mentioned that.
But and Danny East, they're coming in daily.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Right absolutely, you know, And to me, this is really
where the energy is right now in the store. I
feel like we have families that come back every single year,
have weight at a home, tie their Christmas tree on
top of their car load in the back of their
drug four years. We have fresh jet trees coming in.
We've got fresh garland, you know, just a host of

(24:12):
like points set as greenery that people love coming in
and picking up. But those trees are absolutely beautiful. They
smell so nice, and it's become a family tradition for
people to come in and get those they really look great.
But you can come on in and try to find
that perfect tree and we will help you do that.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Awesome. Yeah, that is a special time. I mean you
just think about when you're a kid growing up and
going then it was like a tree lot, or for us,
it was a tree lot, and then when the kids
were growing up, we'd go out and cut them down.
And then there was home depot as you just go
and you pick it out. And I would walk through
that place two or three different times just to smell
the evergreens. It smells awesome. So look, Danny, I know

(24:49):
that you're on vacation. Anything else before we slide away
for a break.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, I would just say come on down. And if
you're looking at getting that fresh jet tree, I say,
come on down and get it down, get your preservative,
get it and you know we'll give you that fresh cut.
We'll tie it on top of your vehicle and uh,
and we'll help you make that holiday just perfect.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
All right, it's holidays at the Home Depot. Danny. Thanks
for taking time from your vacation to join us this morning.
Genuinely appreciate it. And I'm serious as a heart attack.
I'm gonna call you. Why don't you a substitut you
on an auscome radio?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Do that?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
All right? Brother, Thank you so much, Thanks d bye.
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when we return to the Home Deep Home Improvement Show
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(25:48):
Home Improvement Show with John and Dave.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
I'm John Gordon, I'm Dave Doval.

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damage to your retina? Do some LEDs flicker? So a

(26:13):
couple of things. I am not an ophthalmologist, so I
can't opine officially. I do know that there's lots of
chatter about blue light. I think it's blue light, and
that it can be damaging to your eyes. In fact,
when you get some higher end computer monitors, and things

(26:35):
like that. They actually have a setting that limits the
amount of blue light that comes out and arguably prevents
damage to the retina. So you should check it out
in a more reliable source than you know, the Home
Improvement Show. But but there are I know for a
fact that blue light is problematic, and how much of

(26:57):
that is in LEDs, That part I don't know. And
then the other question is do some LEDs flicker? David,
They can flicker because LEDs stands for light emitting diode
and it's kind of it takes a bit of a
shot to get to get the diode emitting light. There's
a driver, typically somewhere in in the bulb. Used to

(27:21):
be they were pretty massive, but if you don't get
enough power to them, they will they will flicker. So
if you use it. Most LED lights are dimmable, but
you need to have an l E a dimmer that's
that's built for LED lights. Usually it has a little
an extra dimmer inside behind the plate, and you dial

(27:44):
it down till the lights go off and then bring
it back on again and then that's your dimmest setting.
And then you can use the dimmer as you would
any other dimmer. So if you don't, if you're not
getting enough power to them, they can they can flicker badly,
and for some reason it's really more annoy then. I
don't know then like fluorescent balds or something. The truth

(28:06):
is all lights flickers sixty thousand times a second. So
I think something like that.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
I don't know what kind of like a candle.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
There's nothing new under the sun, that's right, all right,
So so great questions. Yeah what that helps? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Well, and I think to just you know, I know,
whenever whenever a light of LED bulb is is beyond
thirty five hundred, you can't. I can't look at it.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
You know.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
It's kind of like stare trying to look up at
the sun. You can you can't look for long. It's
gonna hurt your eyes. So that's how I gauge with
the light bulb, with the LEDs. And when I see people,
when I see them on a ceiling and they're all
at set at four thousand or five thousand, you're six thousand.
It's like an operating room for one. But you never

(28:59):
have to worry about what the ceiling looks like because
there's no way to look. You can't look up how
the lights are on. So uh yeah, so I just
I think at that point it becomes common sense. So uh,
you know, our thing is is we have a few
of the bright led bulbs in some lamps where like

(29:19):
where we read, but they have a shade so it
sends the light down to where.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
You need it.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
But the rest of the bulbs, the rest of the
stuff in the house, we have it set at a
normal like what a normal incandescent bulb look like, which
is usually the low.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
That loves setting that Yeah, twenty seven hundred is all.
We call it old sixty watt amber technical term, right
that I prefer the warmer white.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Just yeah, we do too. We like it.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
I think it looks good with most paints. And I
think that's the normal light that you look at it
that that you that you can enjoy that color. So uh,
I just think you need it for task lighting, for
bright lights, or for a reading area. But I like
the rest of the time, I like the I like
the lower setting.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Just I mean no, I do.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
We do too, and and a lot of customers do too,
because we will change those for them as we go.
Because most all these new new can lights and recess lighting.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
You can four or five settings.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah, and and people.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Almost always end up in that three thousand and thirty
five hundred range, usually not above that.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah. I bought some LED lights to take the place
of fluorescent lights, like in a pantry and in the
garage and laundry room. And they have a setting for
the different temperatures of the lights, and then they have
one I forget what they call it. You can actually
change it by just turning the switch on it off quickly.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
So you turn it on and it's you know, it's
five thousand, turn it off and on again, and it
drops down to you know, forty five day. So it's
so it's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
That way you don't have to take the fixture back
out of the ceiling.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
To do yeah, unless you're like Barbers, She'll turn it
off turned on because you forgot something. Wow, the lights changed.
I'm like, you did it all right? Seven o four five,
seven eleven ten. While we're on this topic, I kind
of toss it up before before Danny joined us, But

(31:24):
the question was are there any applications where LED is
not optimal? The first thing I thought of, David was
kind of half in jest, is you and I think
both hoarded some of the incandescent bulbs because when it's
really really cold outside, popping an incandescent bulb in your

(31:47):
well house or underneath where your sprinkler backflow preventer is,
or places where you want to just keep something warm
but not.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Like heated, yeah, just above freezing.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, So that's like, okay, half serious, half in jest.
But I was trying to think of other applications where
you wouldn't want to use an LED light if you want.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yeah, I don't, I don't, you know, I mean other
than the norm. I mean, now that we know that
they don't generate that the LEDs don't generate heat, there's
not a lot of it's it's a great thing to
have LED bulbs, It truly is.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
And I think you gave it.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
I think you gave the answer is someplace where you're
trying to keep it warm. You know, if you have
chickens or or rabbits or something in their outside or
in a place, you know a ball can keep them warm.
And there's still folks that still have a washing machine
that's out on a back porch, maybe in a closet,
and it was pretty normal in the Southeast for that

(32:50):
back in the day. Some people will take a fixture
with a bulb and put it down in the washing
machine and close the lid, and that will that will
obviously with no water in it. Now Scott, let me
just put that out, okay, the other.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Sorry, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
It's like there was a comedian that did a whole
thing like about warning labels, you know, like why do
they put because the reason because somebody did it, so
the other that, yeah, ask me why the other thing.
I think that I would think about from an LED perspective.

(33:34):
If you really want a I think a more significant
range in dimming a light out, probably an incandescent bulb
will take you because you can get an incandescent bulb
way down with a dimmer right because it'll go it'll go,

(33:55):
whereas an LED I think they've actually done something with
the technology so so it won't it typically won't get
to the point where it's flickering on you or going out.
It'll go out all together right when you dim it down.
So I think if you want to really really be
able to dim lights way down, then then uh, an

(34:16):
incandescent ball. I feel like it's more responsive to the
you know, to you know, catching the sine wave at
the bottom and shutting the thing down. So but other
than that, I think it's pretty good. They simp electricity.
They're just so efficient. So that's our opinion. Are worth
everything you're paid for you? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Right, Well, the same thing we talked about earlier with
Christmas lights. The LEDs are so much safer now. They
just they don't get hot. You don't have to worry
about them on a real Christmas tree.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Uh, and all those things.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
I mean, you still need to you still need to
use common sense when you're stretching chords out and making
sure things are are not getting water in them. Make
sure everything that you plug in outside is on a
g F I Uh. If you don't have a GFI,
you can buy a cord adapter that has a GFI
on it.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
So that way it keeps you keep somebody from getting hurt.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
All right, let's take our break, folks. As to new
as the Home Deep Home improvement Show with John and Dave.
We're gonna be back to answer your home improven questions
right after these important messages.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
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Speaker 2 (35:50):
Welcome back, everybody. It's the Home Deep of Home Improvement
Show with Johnna Dave. I'm John Gordon, I'm Dave Doval
And as promised, we have I guess another guest this
morning from the Home Depot, Jeremy Green. Jeremy, good morning.
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
Hey, good morning, John, Good morning day. If I gets doing.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Great doing well, we uh we. We spent some time
with Danny Watson going over some Black Friday stuff, kind
of from a product and promotion perspective. But I really
am grateful for you joining us this morning, not so
much to talk about hey do this by that, but
really to kind of educate folks. It feels like there's

(36:30):
there's just like when you're shopping for appliances, or even
if you just listen to ads about appliances, there's like
all kinds of information and like there there are I
don't know, by my last count, seven hundred of the
absolute best, better than anybody else appliances. Depending on what
you're talking about, it's a little confusing. Yeah, and so

(36:52):
I thought this morning we could we could kind of
pick your brain a little bit, maybe maybe even just
share with our listeners why I bothered you in the
first place, because you kind of have pretty good history
in this space, right Yeah.

Speaker 7 (37:08):
Yeah, So John, as you know, for the past three years,
I've been running the pro clients business at home Depot
and came in and you know, I think as I
walk in a client's showroom at a retailer three years ago,
I was probably at the same place that everybody else was, right, like,
You're just overwhelmed. There's so many options on the showroom

(37:32):
and then you say, hey, let's go find you something online.
And then you're just like, oh my gosh, You're just
like what do I do? How do I tick this right?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
By an ice chest?

Speaker 7 (37:47):
Yeah, like and like you know, there's where do you start?

Speaker 6 (37:52):
Right?

Speaker 7 (37:52):
And so yeah, I think that's something that we can
walk through today, happy to help everybody. You know, how
do you walk through buying an appliance or buying an
appliance suite? And you know, I think ultimately it comes
down to the person. But you know, we got some
good questions that we can walk through and help help
guide everybody.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
All right, let's so let's do it, and we'll be
mindful of time. And folks, listen, if you've got other questions,
if your toilet's overflow and the lights aren't coming on, whatever, whatever,
give us a call. We're happy to we can take those.
Jeremy's been in my office. He knows what add looks like.
Pardon me, So we're happy to have those calls. Originally, Jeremy,

(38:33):
I thought about doing some innovations, but maybe maybe let's
talk to manufacturers. And I know you've got to be careful.
You can't say, oh absolutely, but who are the major
manufacturers like that folks should be looking about. And then like,
are there certain like areas where one manufacturer may outperform
another manufacturer?

Speaker 7 (38:55):
Yeah? Yeah, So whenever we talk about our manufacturers that
we always talk like the big six, right, and so
the Big six. Let's let's walk through each of those six.
And and as I walk through each one, I'll tell you,
you know, what, what's good about each one? What the
what do they do really well at and so well,

(39:16):
we'll first start with LG.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
L G is uh.

Speaker 7 (39:21):
They've they've been around in the technology space for a
long time and getting into the client space for kitchen
and laundry. Uh, they started in laundry and then they
moved over to kitchens. LG. You know, their focus is
on reliability and so they have some some third party

(39:44):
claims that I, you know, I think that they can
stand up to. And so when you think LG, you
you do want to think overall really good reliability. Again,
they started in laundry and so that's where their sweet
spot is, but they do a great job overall in
other parts of the kitchen as well. And then let's

(40:06):
move over to GE.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
So gees they a.

Speaker 7 (40:11):
Good house brand made in the USA for a really
long time, and they have a couple different brands, right,
so when we take GE for example, it's not just
a ge G. E also makes a brand called hot Point,
which is kind of like an opening price point, more
value driven. And then they go up to GE profile

(40:34):
than GE Cafe, and so G Cafe they actually just
call it cafe and that's more of your your mainstream,
not you know, super ultra luxury, but you know, you
get a lot of nice stuff with that.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Now.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
GE is known for cooking, whether that's ranges, wall ovens,
cook tops, microwaves that ge sweet Spot is cooking. We'll
come back to that later. As to like where do
I start, I'll give you a little bit of like
when I'm picking a suite, how do I start? And
where do I start? The next one Worldpool. Whirlpool right

(41:11):
there with Ge has been around in the United States,
still made in the United States as well, and Whirlpool
has a house of brands as well. Right, So, Amana Maytag.
We always think of Maytag as you know Maytag laundry.
You got the Maytag man. He's always sitting around waiting

(41:32):
for that service call, right because stuff just lasts. And
then kitchen Aid. Kitchen Aid actually belongs to Whirldpool as well,
and so Worldpool does a great job with dishwashers and
obviously laundry. Right when we talk about mayteg Maytag, they
take what Whirlpool can do there is they can take
what features and what works really well in one brand,

(41:56):
and then they can take that across all of their brands,
right a Whirlpool. And then next frigid Air, So frigid
Air or electro Lux we know it in the United
States is frigid Air. Electrolux is kind of in the
laundry space for frigid air, really good value for the money, right,

(42:17):
That's what frigid air is right now. Right, Like there's
if we get into some specific items that would be
cool to talk about later, you're going to see a
couple of frigid air things that pop up and not
super expensive, Like they have a really good value for
the money right now. And then the last two Samsung.
Samsung is your technology, right, Like, if you love technology,

(42:40):
if you want a TV on your refrigerator, Samsung's got it.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I kind of like the version that has the electric
raisor you just kind of push your cheek against the
door and you get a free shave. I think that's yeah.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
I mean that'd be great too, right, just don't cut me,
but yeah, right, Like if you're watching the game, you
wanted to switch it over to the fridge while you're
getting this back, like, go for it. And then I
would say Samsung also laundry as well. They've done a
good job there. But technology is where Samsung shines. They

(43:16):
do a good job. They have their technology isn't just
in their you know, kitchen and laundry appliances, but it
goes throughout the entire home. And so when you think
about like a whole home technology forward company, Samsung's got
it there for you. And then the last one is Bosh. Bosh.

(43:37):
You know dishwashers, right like ye dishwashers. Bosh loves to
tout their dishwashers. The next dishwasher we get, Hey, it
might be a Bosh And I would say also, they
do a really good job on refrigeration. So one of
the things about Bosh is Bosh also owns the Thermidor

(44:00):
an right, which is your ultra luxury and so they
can take some of the again, some of the learnings
that they have at Thermidor bring it down into their
Bosh product. And so that's why they do so good
in refrigeration, because Thermidor does great in refrigeration as well
cooking also, but you know, Bosh brought some of that
stuff down into the refrigeration.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
So hey, jerremy okay. So that's that's a good break.
We went. We went right way past the break here,
So we got the big six. We'll come back and
talk about some of those things that you teased up
there in a second. Folks, we're gonna slide away for
a break seven oh, four, five, seven, eleven ten by
phone or by text. We'll talk to you when we
return to the Home Deep of Home Improvement Show with

(44:40):
John and Dave. Welcome back, It's the Home Deep Home
Improvement Show with John and Dave. I'm John Gordon, I'm
Dave Doval, and we've got Home Depot, a representative of
Jeremy Green with us this morning. We're talking about appliances. Jeremy,
thanks for making making time for us this morning. So

(45:00):
we kind of got through the big six manufacturers. I
had forgotten that Bosh and thermidor Or were kind of related.
It feels like there's I think you mentioned a couple
of times. That is is people have different brands under
their you know, their major brand. Some of the technology,

(45:21):
some of the benefits from one will will be used
in another. I think that sort of debunks Sometimes you
hear people say, well, Okay, that's that's mad. That's really
just manufactured by such and such, and that's not that
doesn't detract from the product really in any way. It
typically allows for some transfer of technology and benefits back

(45:45):
and forth. Am I am I understanding that correctly?

Speaker 7 (45:48):
Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Yeah, So what are some things, and and don't let
me lead this conversation too much. You know way more
about this than I could ever know. But I'm thinking,
when it's making an informed decision, how can we kind
of guide listeners to make an informed decision when they're
purchasing appliances refrigerator, dishwasher? Like, what are some things that

(46:16):
they should consider or questions that they should ask or
how do you get from that? Oh my gosh, that's
just too much for me to look at. I think
I'm just going to go wash my clothes in the creek.

Speaker 7 (46:25):
Yeah, no, that's great. So John, I would say when
you're shopping appliances, I would start with think long term, right, Like,
sometimes in the environment we're at today, a lot of
times people are just going in to buy one piece.
Like I just my dishwasher broke. I was talking with
a customer a couple of days ago. A dishwasher broke.
I need a new dishwasher, And so we'll start thinking

(46:48):
a little long term. So are you going to be
replacing all of your appliances or just this one piece?

Speaker 6 (46:54):
Right?

Speaker 7 (46:55):
What are the brand of appliances that you have currently
in your in your space? If you're starting over, then
we can start over with a new brand story. What
what you would want to try and do is try
to keep all of the brands the same. You can
differ from time to time, but you know, you think
about like your home's value and as you're going to

(47:19):
maybe one day resell your home. Appliances can last ten years, right,
and so you just want to make sure that you're
telling those story to that next customer of like, hey,
I don't have just this mortgage port of different brands
in the space.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
It tells a story.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
But when you're going to shop, I would say, if
you're starting over, start with cooking, right, and we can
talk a little bit about like why would I start
with cooking?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Okay, let's talk about it.

Speaker 7 (47:48):
So let's do that. So, so cooking, you have, you
got your ranges, and I say a range. You know,
growing up, I called that a stove, but in the industry, right,
we call it a range. That's basically just like what
you think about, right, Like it's your oven and then

(48:08):
the stovetop there. So you have that, and then you also,
if you wanted to, you could do a cook top, right,
and so that's where you just have the stovetop off
on top of the counter. And then you have a
wall oven that you have elsewhere, and so you want
to think through you know, am I just going to
slot a new range in place? Or do I want
to do the cook top wall up? In combos for ranges,

(48:31):
you got a free standing and then the slide in.
And so the free standing is what you typically think
on the range, right, it's got like that. Think of
it like the backshield that slides up against the backsplash.
There the free standing though it looks like it's built
in because there is no backshield. All the controls are
on front. And then what's your fuel type?

Speaker 6 (48:54):
Right?

Speaker 7 (48:55):
Like do I have gas? Do I have electric? Do
I want to get into induction? We can talk about
it induction later. And how do you cook?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Right?

Speaker 7 (49:04):
That's why I say start with with the cooking is
how do you cook?

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Right? So when we went we.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
Got a new range in our house, my wife was like,
I want a dual fuel. Dual fuel means I got
gas on top and then I got electric in the oven.
Electric in the oven is great because it holds consistent temperature.
Gas on top is great because you can actually like
you can cook, you can see you can turn the

(49:30):
turn the temperature up and down very quickly, and so
you can do that with gas, and you can do
that with induction now too, right, it's a little bit
challenging to do that with electric. Okay, and then okay,
go ahead, ask your no.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
No, no, go ahead, no, go ahead, keep going.

Speaker 7 (49:47):
Okay. If you have more then yep, yeah, and so
then I think through. Once I have my my range,
my cooking, then you can start to fill out the rest.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
Right.

Speaker 7 (49:58):
Refrigerators, A lot of people will have different refrigerators. You know,
there's some really cool innovations in refrigeration. LG has what
they call a craft ice, which is like you think
about like a whiskey ball. They have mini craft ice
now too, which is like little miniature balls. And then
Samsung they came out with a steer ice, very similar

(50:20):
type of product. Or refrigeration French store refrigerators. The really
cool feature that's out there now is there's this like
fourth drawer right in the middle and it's convertible, right,
and so you can do all the way down to
like use it as a freezer, or use it as
a refrigerator, or actually use it as a wine cooler.

(50:41):
If you wanted to. We typically in our house we
use it for our snacks, right, so meats and cheeses
go in there, the yogurt, and so the kids that
can just open that up, it's easy for them to
get the stuff out that they want. And then dishwashers. Dishwashers, right,
you wanted to be thinking about, you know, how clean
do I want it? How dry do I want it?

(51:03):
And how noisy do I want it?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Right?

Speaker 7 (51:06):
And then basically the further up the price point, you're
going to get more clean, more dry third rack, and
it's going to be a less noise specifically to the
point where like you won't hear it, right. And so
a fun little thing to do. Two things. One, take
your dishes into the store like we want you to, right,
like make sure you're going to get the experience that

(51:28):
you want. And then the other thing that's fun is
like play some music on your phone, throw it in
the dishwasher and see if you can still hear the music.
And that kind of gives you a little bit of
a sense of like is this noisy or is this
super super quiet? If it's super quiet, that's great. There's
little indicators that tell you when it's running and then
when it's turned off.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
To all right, all right, so those are good tips
I just saw. So I heard you say home people
is like, we'll do your dishes for you. Bring your
dishes in the store.

Speaker 7 (51:59):
Yeah yeah, not not not clean right, yeah, but bring them.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
No, that makes sense, that makes sense to do that.
All right. So you said something about induction. I want
to I want to get to some innovations. But can
we talk about induction, because that's.

Speaker 7 (52:18):
Yes, let's talk. Let's talk about induction.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Hang on before you go there, Jeremy, hang on, before
you go there. We've got a caller. Mark has a
question about a sub zero fridge. Let me see if
we can get him up here. Mark, good morning, you're
on the Whole Deep Home Improvement Show. How are you?

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (52:33):
Doing fine?

Speaker 2 (52:33):
How you doing good? Can you Jeremy? Can you hear Mark? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (52:37):
I got you Mark?

Speaker 6 (52:38):
Okay, okay, great, right, Well, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
We're getting ready to look at mine a really nice
frid writer and I've been on the market looking at
the sub zeros.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
And uh.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
And my next question is what do you think about
Mela dishwashers and washing machines?

Speaker 7 (52:59):
Yeah, So so Mela actually does a really good job
on the dishwashers and laundry as well. I think one
of the things you know, you said you're looking at
sub zero for your refrigeration, spot on right, and Mela
will complement that really well. I will say sub Zero
used to not have a dishwasher. They do now it's

(53:22):
called Cove is their brand in the dishwasher space. But
you're right on spot right. Like dishwashers, Mela does a
great job. They're known for their dishwashers. Mela is a
little bit more of a European brand, a little harder
to find here in the States, but if you can
find it, great choice, okay.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
And the sub Zero is at the top of the
line as far as frigerators got, So.

Speaker 7 (53:48):
I would say sub Zero and Thermadore are both really
really good at refrigeration, right. So both of them have
been long standing for oh my gosh, go back to
the mid twentieth century or a little bit before. They
both offer a little bit differences. Sub Zero has the

(54:08):
condenser unit of top Thermodoor can have theirs at the bottom,
so a little difference in aesthetics. But I would say
you're not going to go wrong with either brand. And
I would say the other thing too, this is like
you're spending this much money. The great thing about both
brands is typically they're going to last you like twenty years,

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and that's how they build them, right. These things are
built to last or built to perform. So I would
say you can't go wrong with sub zero or Thermador.
If you're leaning towards sub Zero, that's a great choice.
They lead the market, and thermodores right there with them.

Speaker 6 (54:46):
One last question, I'll be quick. What about ice makers,
the subs room maker an ice ice maker?

Speaker 7 (54:52):
Yeah, so here's the thing on ice makers, and then
I'll give you a little tip mark. So on ice makers,
what the ice makers are you saying like in the
refrigeration or in the refrigerator or separate from the refrigerator.

Speaker 6 (55:07):
It's under.

Speaker 7 (55:09):
Okay, yeah, and separate yep yep. So both of them
are going to have their separate ice makers that will
be there. That's a good point. And for the rest
of the audience at this uh, you know sub zero
in Thermidor the ice maker is actually going to be
only in the freezer. It's you know, you don't have
like the spot on the door where you can get

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your ice. It's all going to be in the freezer.
It's got a scoop, so you can buy a separate
ice maker go underneath the counter, and then it'll make
the ice there for you as well. And so that's
actually that hits both of the points. The other thing
mark that I would say is if you are in
an area. I don't know if you're in Atlanta or not,
but there is a sub zero showroom, go visits those showrooms, right,

(55:54):
they have in sub zero showrooms, they will have the
ability to show you all the products that are available.
They will take you through an experience where they can
show you how to use the products. And then they're
not necessarily selling to you either, right, and so what
they were focused on is just the product, and then
they'll push you off to somebody else or if you
already have somebody you're working with to actually do the selling.

(56:16):
So they do a great job.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
Well, they don't have anything in short. You get the
closest places Atlanta.

Speaker 7 (56:22):
Yeah, so they as far as I'm aware, they don't
have anything in Charlotte. Their closest is in Atlanta. I
could be wrong, but yeah, you can find subzero showrooms
online and then find the closest one to you.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
Okay, Hey, thanks a lot, You've been very helpful.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yep, thanks for the call mark appreciate it. Folks. We're
going to take another break here. Seven oh four, five,
seven oh eleven, ten is a number. We're talking to
Jeremy Green. But we'll talk about whatever Homer Provement question
that you've got. When we returned to the Home Deeper
Homer Provement Show with John to day, welcome back. It's
the whole deep Bumber Bootma Show with John and Dave.

(57:01):
I'm John Gordon, I'm Dave Doval, and uh, Jeremy Green
is with us talking about appliances. Jeremy, thanks for making
time for us this morning. We uh, we've hit on
a lot of different things. We started talking about induction
before before our caller came in. Do you want to
go back to.

Speaker 7 (57:21):
That, Yeah, I'd love to. Yeah, So let's let's talk
induction for a little bit. Induction may seem like it's
a magic trick to a lot of people, and it
isn't once you understand how it works. So I want
to I want to talk a little you know, tech
here for how it works. And then that will help

(57:43):
to inform people of can I use this in my
house or not? Right, so, really quickly, how does induction work?
It looks like it's just a regular glass top electric range, right,
But the difference is is there's there's basically there's a
magnetic coil underneath that glass top. And what that does
is it's not heating up the glass top and all right,

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the ceramic top is not heating that up. What it
does is it heats up the pan. And the key
here is that pan. If you're thinking, well do I
need to get new pans if I get an induction top,
the quickest and easiest thing to do is you take
the magnet off your fridge and you stick it on
your pan. If it sticks on the pan, it works.

(58:27):
It's as simple as that, right, And so if if
a magnet will stick on your pan or your pots,
it'll work. And so it heats up that that pan
or that pot. And the other thing too is you
can dial it in and it's quick too, of going
from really hot to simmering, just like gas would be, right,

(58:48):
and so you can turn it up, you can turn
it down, and so that's induction. It's like gas, but
you don't have you know, all the differences. You know,
a lot of caution right there on gas. But it's
just like gas cooks, like gas boils faster than gas,
but a lot safer.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Okay, all right, So that I think you answered one
of the questions that I had, Like you have to
get all new pots and pans, so aluminum pots and
pans won't work, but probably pretty much everything else will
be good, all right. All right, So I guess maybe
before we talk about trends and finishes and stuff like that,
and David, hey if I'm missing something, David, keeping between

(59:29):
the ditches as you traditionally do, and jump in on here.
But there's some innovations you talked about. You know, we
joked about Samsung and having a TV on the outside
of your fridge. I know, I think there's one that
like it has a screen and then it can like
you can look inside the fridge without opening the door.

(59:50):
But what what are some of the innovations that the
a that are out there? And then maybe you like
I don't know, because because they're cool, because they make
and talk about some innovations for me, if you would please.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:00:04):
So, so two other innovations that I would want to
touch on just to help help the audience get up
the seat a little bit. On appliances, so one is
a lot of people have air fryers on their counterfeit, right,
So there's two alternatives if you don't want to have
your air fryer on your countertop, or pull it out
of the pantry and put it on the countertop. One

(01:00:27):
option is a lot of the ranges have air fry
built into them today, which is great, right, And so
we can take some some of the frozen French fries,
or you know, we get the kids and hey, we're
going to throw some chicken nuggets and it'll get a
better crisper because what that's doing is the air fry
moves air circulation around the product, whatever the food product

(01:00:52):
is that's in the range, and it moves around, gets
it crispier, gets a better cook. So ranges have air fry.
The other thing that for super cool is over the
range microwaves. Some of those have air fry as well,
and that just blows my mind. You have a microwave
that has a built in air fryer, right, And so

(01:01:13):
if my son brings home some French fries from a
fast food restaurant. He doesn't need them all, which that's
probably not going to happen to the sixteen year old boy,
but you know, like we could throw him in there,
hit the airfry and then they come back out and
it's like they just came out of the fryer, right,
and like he's like nasty. Like it is amazing, and

(01:01:38):
so like just a small cavity of a microwave with
air fry is awesome. I wish that we got more
of that technology earlier on, but it's really cool. The
other one, I said two things.

Speaker 6 (01:01:52):
So that was one.

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
The other one is all in one laundry. So this
is something that I kind of kicked off a couple
of years ago. All in one laundry is it washes
and drives in one machine. Okay, And so you guys,
you guys can probably educate us more than I can.
But what it's going to do. It's got the washed
shutter setting and then it's going to go through it's

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going to do the wash cycle and then it stops,
and then it's going to go over to the dry cycle.
And the dry cycle uses a heat pump to dry
it right and so just think about your HVAC system
right like it's it's very similar to that. It's going
to pull the moisture out of the clothes. Now. It
works amazing. If I get an all in one laundry machine,

(01:02:36):
I'm going to get too, because you can put two
of them side by side, right instead of the washer
and the dryer. You can take these things because it
does it all in one. Put them, two of them
side by side. Now you have it, and the other
part too. Because it's pulling moisture out and it's not
drying with heat, it's gentler on the clothes, right, and
so you're not going to have your clothes come out

(01:02:59):
and get worn down faster. It's gentler around them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
What you do have to do is reset expectations on
what does dry mean.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
So dry is not hot in a okay okay okay.

Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
And so when you pull it out, it's not hot,
but it's dry. It's actually drier than the clothes that
you are wearing right now. It just doesn't feel that
way because we've always pulled out laundry from a dryer
and it's like, oh tod, it's great, this is dry now,
not in an all on one. It works pulling moisture out,
and so when you pull it out, it feels room

(01:03:33):
temperature that's actually drier than the clothes you're wearing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
All right, all right, so hey, they're just quick aside here,
one of our listeners texted that there is a sub
zero and Wolf showroom in downtown Charlotte and they'll do
those same demos. So that's that's good to know. Check
that out, folks, if you're listening. All right, So I

(01:03:57):
wanted to talk about the the all one, and then
what about maybe some talk about some common mistakes that
folks might make when they're when they're trying to purchase
an appliance or make a decision about appliances.

Speaker 7 (01:04:14):
Yeah, yep. So common mistakes that I typically will see
is one not knowing your fuel source.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:04:22):
And so I was in the store. I was helping
a a couple pick out a new washing machine. Right,
So there's broth. They needed a new one. And because
of the really good deals that we have in the
home depot right now for for appliances, I've said, look,
you can buy your washing machine, or you can spend

(01:04:43):
four hundred dollars more and get a new dryer as well, right,
and and the package. You know, they're going to end
up saving about forty percent on that dryer if they
bought the dryer. And so they were like, well, you know,
and what is your dryer? Fuel source? Is it gas
or is electric? Same thing on your range, right, Like

(01:05:04):
most people know the range is gas, are electric? But
just know your fuel source, right, Like that's the most
important thing. The other thing is what's your size? Right,
Like of your there's not a standard size for a refrigerator. Right,
You've got thirty six inches wide, but there's also thirty
three or thirty inches wide, some even our twenty eight

(01:05:24):
inches wide. So knowing the size of the product that
you're gonna buy, will it fit into the space. So
make sure you look at that stuff right, like what's
the opening and does this product fit into that opening?
That's key because you don't want your new product showing up.
You're going to get all excited and then it doesn't
fit and you're like, oh gosh, all right, now you
got to take it back and I got to go

(01:05:45):
find something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
New, right, got it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:48):
By the way, when they're bringing the product in, we
got to make sure it fits through all the doors
and everything. So that's the last thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
All right, we got to take our last break. Folks,
don't go away seven h four five seven eleven ten.
You've got to clients questions, other questions will answer your questions.
When we returned to the Home Deep Home Improvement Show
with John and Dave, Welcome back. It's the Home Deep
of Home Improvement Show. It's on to Dave. I'm John Gordon,
I'm Dave Doval, and we've got Jeremy Green. We're in
our last segment here. So if you got some questions
for Jeremy, we've got the the intel in the house

(01:06:19):
seven four five seven eleven ten. You can Texas at
that same number. We can share it with Jeremy. And
there's some other questions or topics. Feel free jump in.
We'll make sure we get you squared away. Jeremy. I
know that we got just like about maybe even less
than five minutes left in this last segment. I wanted
to talk about you. You referred to it earlier two things.

(01:06:40):
Actually said something A lot of times people are just
coming in to buy one appliance because one has failed.
But then you also talked about the couple. Hey, if
you get wash your dryer combination. You can save a
lot of money if it makes sense. What are the
advantages or disadvantages of buying like a suite of appliances?

Speaker 7 (01:06:57):
Yeah, so great question. I would say, if you're going
to buy appliances, now is a great time to buy, right.
So Black Friday has the best prices that we are
going to see some of the breast discounts all year.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
So the suite.

Speaker 7 (01:07:11):
One of the advantages of buying a suite of appliances
right now is you're going to get a great savings.

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
So obviously at home Depot, if you buy four appliances
and you're going to get a thousand dollars off, you
know there's some criteria around that, but headline by four,
that's a suite, right, So your refrigerator, range, your microwave,
and your dishwasher, that's your four and you get a
thousand dollars off. We have suites that are as well
as twelve forty two, right, Like that's crazy. So advantage there.

(01:07:43):
You get the story of this is the this is
the entire brand in the home, right and you can
have different brands for the kitchen versus laundry. That's fine.
That happens all the time, right, but you get the
story around it. That's that's the benefit of buying a suite.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
A question I have about that too when you if
you mix, say you buy stainless steel appliances, can't can't
the stainless steel be off a little bit of it
may be different coloring or it seems like manufacturers?

Speaker 7 (01:08:16):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that's a great question.

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
And so.

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
The tit there is how far away are your appliances? Right, So,
like your dishwasher and your refrigerator, typically those are going
to be more separate, more room from the range in
the microwave, so you can usually get away with that, right,
it doesn't they're all pretty close. You can go walk
the showroom see how close they are, the range and

(01:08:43):
the microwave. Those are ones that you want to typically
have the same. We didn't for a while and it
was still okay because they are so close right now, right,
stainless steel is stainless steel, and I.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
Would think that the refrigerator, in the in the in
the dishwasher have more surface area exposed to so they
probably are. It's probably more noticeable on those And of
course if you have your refrigerator built in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
You don't really all you see.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Is the front of it, So that's right, Yeah, makes sense.
But I have seen a little difference in it before
and have told people just be advised, there's a possibility
there could be a little difference when they're right beside
each other. So think about that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Good point. All right, last we we got about a
minute before. We've got a wrap style stainless steel. Is
that still the big deal or are things? No?

Speaker 7 (01:09:40):
Stainless steel is a way to go. We're starting to
see a little bit of black stainless steel still hang
around and start to pop back up. Some colors coming in,
but mostly stainless steel is the way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Awesome. Jeremy Green from the Home people, thank you so
much for making time on a Saturday morning. I know
you've got family and lots to do, so we really
appreciate you making the time and also sharing your sharing
your questions with us folks. If you've got some questions lingering,
send us a note to ask John at Dave dot
com and David'll get it to me and I can

(01:10:13):
ping Jeremy if we need to do that. So really
really appreciate you. Jeremy I hope you have an awesome Thanksgiving.

Speaker 7 (01:10:20):
Thanks guys, my pleasure have a good thing for you
to Thanks Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Thanks see you folks. That wraps us for this week.
A lot of stuff going on. We really appreciate you.
Thanksgiving coming up. I know it's busy. Take a minute
to just be grateful. It makes your life so much
easier and so much better. And remember that we think
the most important kind of home improvement you can make
is the one that makes your home a happier place
to live in. Don't forget to work on that project
this week, and we'll see you next week on the

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