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October 6, 2025 44 mins

Hey girls! Welcome back to the final London instalment of Hotter Than Yesterday – and wow there's a lot to unpack. In this episode I’m catching you up on my last weeks abroad before heading home to Melbourne, unpacking everything from my near-kidnap experience in London (and the lessons I learned about safety + trusting your gut) to what I won't be taking for granted when coming home to Australia (and why I’m craving my little car and almond cappuccinos more than ever). Can't wait for our final Euro instalment next week! Xxx

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everyone, Welcome back to Tuesday's episode of Hotter Than Yesterday.
I have a little guest joining me today, Blake, Welcome
to the studio.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, gorgee girl.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, thank you for staying after hours. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
And the thing for you, my love. It's just been
too long. I'm trying to think where you were in
our last podcast catch up. I think you just came
back from not Monico, but similar.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I think our last catch up was, Yeah, I just
came back from Turkey.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, and you had someone in your live I did.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
That's long gone now, yeah, but we keep it moving,
we learn, we do keep on moving. We're onwards and upwards.
You can't break my heart anymore. Like I am a stale,
stale piece of bread.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
She just had heartbreaks in every single version.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Now, Oh, guys, only if I could tell you the
law honestly. But yeah, I was in Turkey the last
time you came in the episode.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I think have you been to Parish out?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I've been to Paris in June. I'd leave to Paris
on Friday for Paris Fashion Week.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, that's a trip I was thinking of.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah that was amazing. I'm so excited. To go back
to Paris. Have you been to Paris? You have no?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
But I used to not want to go. But I
don't know if it's like the Summer I Turn Pretty.
Hate myself for saying that, but I've just seen a
lot of parrots. Reason I'm like, you know what I
want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm going to be so pick me. I've never watched
Summer I Turn Pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
No, like you should. Actually that's a flex.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, because I'm so pick me when it comes to
those things. Like I'm such a pick me, pick me girl, Like, honestly,
I'm so pick me.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
I'm obsessed. But like there's so many moments in the
show that I was like, why am I watching this?
Like it's literal, like to the extent of Home in
a way, it's so predictable, but I kind of see it.
It's the same thing as like there's a huge Van
diagram the Summer I Turn Pretty fans and like Taylor Swift,
they're kind of the same thing a hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I hate Taylor Swift again, So pick me with me,
pick me, honestly, pick me, feel like choose me, feel
bad for me. But like my thing is is, like
I started watching I try to watch it from the start,
but I have such a bad attention span. Yeah, it's
so bad that I like can't watch it because I
know I had like four seasons to watch until the end.

(02:05):
I understand the whole Colden Rad and Jeremiah Law, like,
I understand the whole thing about it, but I'm like,
I don't want to watch it from start to finish.
So I just like didn't care about it. But like
that's the same as like gossip Girl, Vampire Diaries, all
those things with a lot of seasons. It overwhelms me,
and I just know that I'm going to start it
and I'm never going to finish it, So I'm just

(02:25):
never going to start it.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'm the same like people ask me, have you seen
this movie? How about even Star Wars? I've never watched.
Like you're having a hard time getting me on the
couch for a full hour. And it's not to say
I'm being busy or doing anything active. It's just attention,
I promise.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I just like don't care. I don't care to like
understand it, but like I'm so like I just like
love baiting people with that I haven't watched it, which
is so weird. Because the summer, I turn pretty like
the whole concept behind it is such a thing that
I watch, like I love like an easy cheek flick
like Team brom Like I love that stuff, but in

(03:01):
movie form because I can see and watch it and
it can be done in an hour and a half,
not that I have to wait till every Wednesday, Like, Na,
you will never catch me doing that.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
And when you know they're filming for a season, you're like,
I know it's going to take you a year to
actually edit and make this, and then you're on a
promo it for six months, like you actually know it
makes your life go quicker. Sadly it does.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
But do you know what I am? The only series
that I've watched and that I religiously watch is Euphoria. Yeah,
and they're having a new season coming out next year.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I know. Have you seen the spoilers?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
No, I don't want.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
To, Okay, I won't say anything.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, don't say anything. I love Euphoria because I'm like,
that's reality of what people are in their teens. Like,
let's stop downplaying it, Bellie, You're not in Paris, Like
there's drug addiction and partying and that's reality and I'm like, yes,
eat that.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Shit hilariously enough, Like I could go on for days
about belly, so don't get me start but with you
for I missed that. It's like off my chat but
let's own it. It's like probably almost triggering at times,
Like I think a lot of people have very similar
family experiences to shows like that.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yes, I can troll a bond with euphoria exactly. It's
kind of like watching parts of my life, not too exact,
but like certain parts of my life. I'm watching it
instead of being a part of it. But no, I
think you would love Pirates.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I know I'm coming next year. Europe. It's happening rain
hale a.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Shine, Yes, you need a euro Someone.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
What's the London gas? What have I missed?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Ummm nothing really besides getting kidnapped.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Wanted to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, I'm staying at Maddie Dillon's house at the moment
because I had to move out of my com I
got an email yesterday saying that they're charging me five
hundred pounds in it, which is a thousand Australian dollars
in cleaning fees from stuff that they already did to
the apartment. Yeah, and I was like, hell no, put
it into chat GPT. I was like, respond to this

(05:06):
email in a disagreeing form that I have proof that
it was like this before I came chat GGPT really
outdid themselves with that email response. It was really good.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Hey chat respond with rage.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, I say, respond savagely.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Love it.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
And yeah, apart from that, nothing really. I saw the
Buckingham Palace for the first time yesterday, like I really
needed to do that because I had been here for
like six months and I haven't done that.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Legit just before you leave.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, I was like, my mum will be so disappointed
in me. So I did that. But like, apart from that,
nothing really.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I'm going to ask you like the same question about
two different things. So the Eiffel Tower and Buckingham Palace.
Do you kind of get there and you're like, ah,
there it is.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
No. The Eiffel Tower has like whoa, I'm so happy
to hear that. Like when I saw that Eiffel Tower,
You're like, oh my god, like that is well like
for me personally, I was like, oh my god, like
that is so cool because Paris is so beautiful. So
like you're seeing these things and especially as an Australian,
like we don't have like obviously like the Cydney harper Bridge,

(06:16):
but like I'm a Melbournie and so like we don't
have like a distinct thing that it's like, oh my god.
But the Paris Eiffel Tower is like wow, Like it's
so cool because you're like that is in real life
and it like glistens when the sun's like down, and
like it glistens on the hour and just like it's
so beautiful and there's like the energy around the Eiffel

(06:39):
Tower is so beautiful. Bucking and Palace again, like I
didn't really care to see it, but it is really cool.
But then I like, I've logged it for you guys,
so you can see it on my TikTok. But like
I was like I got there and I was like, okay, cool,
Like I can go, like you can picnic at the
Eiffel Tower, you can like sit down, you can be

(07:00):
around people. But like there are so many tourists at
Buckingham Palasts you're literally seeing a stone and then you're
like okay.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, And I won't speak for everyone, but I feel
like not as many people care about the Royals anymore.
There's not that law or I'm really.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Interested in the Royals. I love the Royals so like
the fact that, like I wasn't interested in seeing the
Buckingham Palace, like I was like a bit weird, but
I love like the whole law around the Royals.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh my god, I would not have picked this about you.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah. See, there's a big thing called the Morrisby Character
Strength Test, and it tells you about like your character
strengths as a person. And my bottom one is appreciation
of beauty and excellence. So like I don't look at
things like a museum and or like a piece of
art and like want to dissect the art and understand it.
I like knowing about like history of things, so like

(07:49):
World War history, Like I'd love to go to Berlin
and like Germany and understand about the World War two
and like all of those things. Like that stuff like
interests me more. When I went to the Buckingham Palace,
I was obsessed with the guards, Like I'm sitting there
with the guards being like what makes you want to
be a fucking guard and stand there stoic as fuck

(08:11):
for hours on end. Like I then went home and
watched like four YouTube documentaries about being a guard at
Buckingham Palace, Like that stuff interests me.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Do you know how much they get paid?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, they're actually soldiers. Yeah, so they like they serve
their time and then they will be on like a
thing for two years where they have to be a
soldier at Buckingham Palace and like.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
What's the word to climb the ranks.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, yeah, and they just have to like serve their
time like to the king, because like that's like they're
protecting their monarchy and their the king like United Kingdom,
Like they're serving their time as.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Like a.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Pretty sure correct me if I'm wrong? Pretty sure?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well background check and apologize next week if that's wrong.
But hey, not trying to be.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Offend from my YouTube from my YouTube videos, that's what
I gathered. You can they train as soldiers and like
they trained as like in the military, and then they
go some of them go into like serving the monarchy,
but they only do it around for like two years.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
So funny because I thought that would have been like
the end goal, that's like prime ministership for them.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Your end goal is to stand outside of Buckingham Pallace.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
No, not me, the soldiers.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, but then like every I think it's like every
thirty minutes or an hour. They have to walk ten
feet so like for their health, and they have to
like salute and like out of salute and insalute because
like they have to get the blood flowing because they
stand there for so long. They can't even go to
the toilet.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Fuck that.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, I'm like broke. Surely you put an airport in.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I would so struggle, you know how. People obviously try
and trick them and like pull pranks on that. I'd
be gone every time.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh hundred percent, one hundred percent. I Like there's whole
compilation videos on YouTube. Sorry guys, maybe I don't give
a fuck about this, but this whole compilation videos are
like people trying to trick them out of their stuff,
and they don't. They don't budge, but they'll yell at
you if you get too close to them, don't touch
the guard.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, yeah, I would forget close. I'm a real follower.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah you are. I would just be like no, actually,
I'm not gonna say that because like everyone already, I'm
just gonna be like, yo, you single, Like I'll just
try to make them like break their character because it's
a character.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, I reckon you could win one over.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
They can't see you. I don't think. Oh, I think
they look up in their big cats.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
And that can be a challenge from me to you
before you go bring back one of the guards.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Pick up a prison at prison, sorry not prison. Love
you the Royal family. Don't come to me. Love your guards.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
But if you don't mind, did you want to get
into the kidnapping stuff, like we actually haven't. We're texted
about it. So you saw it after my mom she
you messaged me, Oh my god, I just watched Sam's video.
Is she doing Okay? I'm like, what has happened?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah. A lot of the girls that like I live
with or that like I'm here in London with like
all of their parents send them sent that to them,
being like why didn't you leave with her? And and
everything like that. Like, first of all, do not blame
any of my friends in that situation, because I again,
if you even see my if you guys follow me
on socials, which like, if you're not like, what are

(11:29):
you doing when I did that? Unfortunately I do love
I'm a smoke bomber. I would just remove myself from
the situation or I stay longer. I'm always like again
in the video, I said I had a false sense
of delusion, and I always think I can get myself
out of situations, so I never really feel unsafe. And
I think that that's because I grew up with brothers

(11:50):
that always told me shit, and I just like again,
like kind of have a bit of a bro mentality
with it, but I forget that I'm a five two
woman sometimes. So in that situation, when that whole kidnap
thing happened, I smoke bombed.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah. And I think the other important thing is because
I saw the start of the video and I still
did not know what had happened. So I was like,
I need to go to the comments, I need to
hint or anything, and like, I think the top comment
was like why were why didn't your friends go home
with you? And like it's so nice to think back,
you know, to how it could have gone differently. But
that's a privilege to be able to think back and

(12:26):
look at it in hindsight. But let's not blame friends.
Let's blame man for trying to kidnap women.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, And there were so many things of like, oh,
like why the hell would you get in the car
and everything like that, Like, okay, bit of context, guys,
Like I know getting in a car with a stranger
is not right, but like, don't blame the girl because
she wore a miniskirt, blamed the guy because he took
advantage of a woman, Like we always try to blame

(12:54):
women here. And it's even like now that I put
myself in, like i've experienced something like that and experience
something dangerous, everyone wants to look for someone to blame,
but they don't ever hold the man accountable for ever
making a woman feel unsafe. It's like I was asking
for help and he saw a girl that needed help

(13:15):
and took advantage of a girl who asked politely for help.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, which you thought was a security guard? Mind you?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, I thought it was a security guard. And then
everyone's like, why didn't you go up to another girl?
When you're in moments of despair and you're looking for
a solution, you go to any solution. And again, as
an Australian, I personally like I don't think men are
great in Australia, but I think we do look after
each other a lot better and we have each other's

(13:43):
backs and not in it like an egotistical way. I'm
a lot more well known in Melbourne. Like I know
a lot more people in Melbourne. So if I were
to be out on Chapel Street, if I turned around
to someone and I was like, oh, can you help me,
like I don't have like can you help me charge
my phone or something like that, can you help me

(14:04):
pay for my uber? Even if I don't know them
directly and they don't know me, I guarantee you'd be
a friend of a friend or something like that.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's so much more local.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
So like me thinking like that and me growing up
in an area that has like that, it's hard to
snap out of it in times when you're in desperate
need for help, like what can a girl do? Like
I'm not justifying my actions and knowing I did something
stupidly wrong, but like the whole interaction went for maybe
forty five seconds to the second that I sat sat

(14:33):
down in that car, and then my alarm bells went
off and then I got myself out of that situation luckily.
But I don't know. I think sometimes like people's faith
in humanity like really disappoints me when like I shared
my story to bring awareness to a situation and like
amazing people and people were so grateful and like so

(14:56):
loving and kind as well, but like it is really
interesting to see like some people being like it was
your fault, you got yourself in that situation.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And it's like that feedback loip makes everything so much
more confusing because you're getting asked all these questions. So
you're probably going back and asking yourself and you're fucking
just bashing yourself the whole time. You're probably forgetting what
this man's face looks like, and you're not thinking about
him because the fingers are all getting pointed towards you,
and it's like why did you do that? Why didn't
you do this? Okay, great, but the.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Thing is it happened. Yeah, so like, thank god nothing
bad happened to me, But like if I then if
something did, if something bad did happen to me, everyone
would have been like, well, why did you get in
that car? It's like why did he kidnap me?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, and no one would have really had the context
of your relationships, so you know, no one would have
had the answers. So thank god one you're here just naturally,
but too you're here to tell the tale and warn
other people. That's simply what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, but like I can, I can literally tell you
everything about this man. I studied this man something bad
did happen, and I about to tell the police. Yeah,
I know everything, every detail of this man's face. I
stared at him because there's this movie. There's this movie
about this woman, this girl getting kidnapped, and she remembers

(16:14):
like how many flights of stairs she went up, like
counted the stairs, how many left turns, how many right turns?
And I was like, you're a fucking genius. So I
looked at her. I was like, remember that movie in
that moment of time, and studied this man's goddamn face.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I know exactly what you're talking about. I forget what
it was, but that's one of the most harrowing things
I've ever watched.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, it's such a good movie if it's on Netflix,
and I don't have the name of it, but it's
like a great movie. And I was always like, she's
a fucking genius.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well, it was so scary to like learn it from overseas,
and like as a man as well, I would have
done the exact same thing as you, and like, yes,
let's try and control our alcohol. But I've been there
plenty of times. I wake up some mornings and I've
got charge for ubers that I've ordered and forgot that
I even ordered. Like, unfortunately we're young. We do end

(17:05):
up in this mindset and in these environments. But if
you can pass on any learnings, like great, But otherwise, And.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Another thing that someone said is like, why didn't you
go to a girl? Why did you go to a man,
And like, because I have brothers, I did go to
a man in that situation wanting to feel safe and
wanting to feel protected. If I went to another girl,
I'm almost like, I'm almost putting you in that situation
because I have grown up around boys that I do

(17:33):
have good faith in men, and I know that my
brothers would help girls in that situation like that, So like, naturally,
because I grew up around boys, I did gravitate towards
a man who I thought was security guard.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yes, that point exactly rum that home, but not to
mention this man was nice to you, and it always
starts out nice, but like if he was a raging
asshole to you, of course you were going to run
the other way. But when you meet a man that
is nice. You run with that because sometimes it's few
and far.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Between, exactly like this man gave me no alarm bells,
like none. He seemed like a fucking legend, and not
even like in a flirtatious way. He actually just seemed
like a good person to help. Yeah, like not even
like oh, nothing like that. I didn't get a single
one of those being like oh maybe he wants me

(18:25):
or anything like that. Nothing.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, nothing, Which makes it almost scarier because you know,
when you envisage people that do things like this, you
just see dark spirits, but they actually can be people
who present as really nice, lovely, warm, welcoming and be
jack opposite that.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Not Jeffrey Dahmer, the one that zach Efron.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Played extremely wicked, shockingly evil and vile.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah have you seen that?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I actually haven't.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh my god, it's really good. It's about like he
zach Efron plays this person who's like he's a serial
killer but it's a true story from like the eighties
or something like that. But the guy is really good looking,
so everyone was like, he's not guilty. He's not guilty
because everyone thought he was so hot. Yeah, it's like crazy,
pretty privilege can get you so far.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I was gonna say, that's the pretty privilege literally get
away with murder dough.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, pretty privilege is a massive thing in Europe. I
always like, me and my influencer friends speak about this
and you guys are about to get the full law.
And if you're an influencer, like, let me know if
you feel the same when you're exposed to things that
like you shouldn't be exposed to. Like as an influencer,
I looked at influencers when I was like fifteen year

(19:44):
old being like oh my god, oh my god, like
so crazy, so crazy, and then you start getting like
a little bit more like invited to things, and like
if you weren't an influencer, like getting to those things
kind of seems like a little bit not possible. And
like as someone who'say and experienced it, like I've partied
with like oh, shut the fuck up, sand but like

(20:04):
partied with some very famous people, and like I've been
in the room with some very famous people like I Coachella,
Like in Europe, like you, ignorance is bliss. Never mean
your idols, Like these people aren't my idols. But I'm
like sometimes like people go to extremes to get themselves
there and then put themselves into situations and it's just

(20:26):
like I'm so lucky as an Australian and I speak
about it with my Aussie friends that like we can
see that as like not normal, but people who have
grown up in that scene the hold their whole lives
like think that that's normal, and like ignorance is bliss.
Like you don't actually want to be a part of
those parties or you don't really like wanna get to
know people like that on a deeper level because then

(20:47):
like not right in the hand, it.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Just wakes you up to everything because like as you said,
when you were fifteen, because if I when I was
fifteen sore an influencer on a yacht, You're like, oh,
she has access to that, she might own it, her
family might. It's mostly not as simple as that, but
you do get exposed to interesting circles.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, and like I'm just like I'm going to expose people,
not people things. If someone is partying on a massive
yacht like that, really question how they got on that yacht.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry, it's the true. It's true.
That week if you guys see me on one of

(21:26):
those yachts, you better hope that I'm dating someone on
that yacht, because like girls get free Europe trips. Girls
will fly over to a part in Europe, find someone
who has a yacht, and then the rest of their
Europe trip will be paid for.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, which is like that's just not normal in Australia.
So it's just like so unfathomable at.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Times, but it shouldn't be normal any like do you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Like I always have a girlfriend with a story, like
I went to this city and three nights later, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I dated the guy I dated over here. Bless his heart.
He's like a really good guy. Like he's a really
good guy. But he lived in Monaco for a bit.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Monaco is just like obviously like known to be like
very very wealthy area. It's a tax very area. Like
you're rich rich if you live in Monaco. But he
really exposing myself. He was an athlete there, so he
lived there for sport. Guys me and the athletes honestly
can't get away with it. But he obviously would tell

(22:35):
me stories and like things that he had seen. He
was like if I ever see a girl in Monaco.
I know that she's been paid to be there, same
as Morocco, same as Dubai. And he really taught me
the law of like how this ship works. And he
said to me, he was like, Sam, if we like
never like end up working out, which we didn't. And
he was like, if someone ever pays for your clients,

(22:56):
they're expecting you to sleep with them. And I was like,
he was like, whether you think you're going to or not,
if someone is paying for your flights, that's what they
want from you. And I'm just like I'll always have
that in my head, yeah, because I'm like I will
never get all myself on one of those yachts because,
like I'm telling you, these people who own yachts are
like sixty years old.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, and this is one area of the world, like
god knows how it works in the other places.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, And I'm just also speaking from my experience, like
I've actually never been on one of the yachts, but
like I'm speaking from like what I've heard, what I've seen,
and like what I've almost been a part of. Like
I always like throughout the summer months of Europe, like
I was getting like a couple of damns a day
being like I have a yacht in the south of France.
Do you want to come on it? Like so many

(23:46):
and it is tempting. I won't why getting a message
to go on a yacht with your girlfriends like one
hundred percent, that seems so much fun. It does. Maybe
it's a social experiment and come back to you guys
and tell you about it. No, because that means like, oh,
I just pay for my own flights so I don't
have to sleep with them.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I know it's such a risk. It's like, yeah, sure,
but who are you going to do that way exactly?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
And you don't really know their intentions and it's really scary.
And like obviously being exposed to so many things over
in Europe and like learning things about like the way
of life over here in Europe, there's some things like
I will not take for granted that I definitely took
for granted back in Australia, and I'm going to brainstorm
them with you. Yeah, speaking about like I know a

(24:36):
lot of people aren't that my parents are still in
a happy, loving relationship.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Sorry what Yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
These men in Europe I was like speaking to at
lunch with like these guys and he was like a
bit of a bachelor and he said he was like
we were like speaking about it and he was like.
I was like, oh, don't you ever want a wife
and kids? And he was like, oh, babe, stop there.
And I was like what and he was like, a
wife and kids are two separate things. I'll have kids,

(25:04):
but I'll never have a wife. And that's something about
in Australia is like I feel like the big mentality
is like you find a wife, you have kids with
that wife, and you hopefully live happily ever after. But
there's some people in areas of Europe who they'll have
someone with four kids knowing that they won't have them
as like a lifelong partner. And I was he was

(25:25):
like a baby, your parent's still together and I was
like yes, and he was like, well, tell your dad
to have a euro somewhere and he'll come back single.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Oh my god. I remember the saying this. I was like,
that's horrific, Like, are you kidding me? That's so funny.
I had things in my head of what you could
have said for this. That was not the first one
I was expecting. So I think I'm going to read
that I'm going to learn a lot.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
That the mentality in Australia is that you find a
partner and you grow old with that partner. Australia was yeah,
but I didn't think was like not a normal thing
for everybody else in the world. Do you know what
I mean? The second thing is my mother fucking car true,
Oh my god, I'm I love my car, guys, I

(26:10):
spend so much time in my car. I love her.
I always appreciated her. But getting in your car and
playing Olivia Dean is something I haven't experienced. I haven't
played Man I Need in the car and sung it
at the top of my lungs.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Another thing, and I don't you would never listen to
your podcast back, but you've never even listened to Hotter
than Yesterday in a car.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Never never wild. I've actually never listened to one of
my episodes from start to finish. Like, sometimes I listen
to certain things because I'm like because obviously, like if
you guys didn't know, you say a lot of stuff,
but things can get cut out, and like when I
know that I've like maybe said something like with a
little bit of tea, I'll like skip to watch to

(26:54):
listen to it to see true what it actually said.
So then like I'm like, okay, I'm aware of like
what it's out in the public and what's not because
sometimes I really spread like tell my secrets, and Blake
will be like, Okay, that's a little bit too obvious,
like protecting you here, cutting that part out. Yeah, fair enough.
I would do fair enough.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
But to your advantage, Spotify now has chapters. I don't
even do them that automatically transcribes the episode and tells
you where to go, so enjoy. If you need anything,
just ask.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Me, Yeah I could. Yeah, so sometimes I do that,
but like, yeah, just like playing sit in my car
and having like a sacred bubble. You guys know, and
you guys always see on my Instagram story how much
I wear these airporp maxes. It's kind of giving car vibes.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah. The other thing is like, even remember we're trying
to organize you getting this microphone, you have to get
like a one hour tube train, yeah to the location
that was.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Going to be my next thing, Like everything is a
journey everywhere, takes forty five minutes everywhere when you're done. Yeah,
or like even like going and getting a Mucha, like
the much of places are in like the central London,
So it's like, okay, well I have to journey to
go get a mucha, which is like a nice outing,

(28:11):
but like sometimes you just want to pick up a
mucher and go home drink it on the couch, and
like I love my mornings of sitting going to the gym.
That's another thing I can't take for granted, is my gym.
Like you're driving to the gym, doing my workout, then
grabbing a coffee and sitting in the car and drinking
my drink like it is my favorite time of the day.
But I can't do that. No, I can't do that,

(28:34):
And then I'm done. I have to journey fifty minutes home.
Much is worn off by then.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, nah, I couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
It is really fun. But then like sometimes like when
you just have to do like one thing, the journey
seems so long to go.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
And it's even when you're going home and you're like,
I know it's going to take an hour, it's like
you almost don't even want to enjoy the journey home
because you're so pissed.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Off you have to do it, and there's no reception.
Oh yeah, and I've developed a really big irrational fear
that there's a bomb.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I heard this in the last adda I was dying.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah. I don't know what it's come from. It's obviously
my anxiety and I build up like irrational thoughts. But
now I'm like scared to get a tube because there
was like bomb threats one day in the tube lines.
So I think I'm gonna get bombed.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, because I was literally like is it Because you're
in Europe at the moment, there's a bit of conflict
going because when you said because you were talking through
the episode and you were like, yeah, then they had
an anxiety attack. I thought a nuclear bomb was going off.
I'm like, please, don't let this be an everyday thing
for you. That's not very feasible.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I woke up every day saying it lasted another twenty
four hours, which is two hundred and three times from
a nuclear bomb going off. I told you I haven't
an obsession with like world wars and stuff like that. Yeah,
two hundred and three times, because when of a nuclear
bomb goes off. Sorry, I'm going to build up a
fear in everyone's mind when a nuclear bom goes off,
You're dead in seven minutes. Yeah, it's a little bit

(30:05):
further away for Australia because like if it goes off
in Europe, but like if nuclear bomb goes off, I'm
dead in seven minutes because of the toxins. I guess
you told me that my tattoo artist while he was
giving me a tattoo.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Oh perfect, because that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
I want to sit and listen to it.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I was like, is this your anxiety but you're now
researching just to reaffirm that you're anxious about it.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
No, they told me, and it created my anxiety. But yeah,
like that's like become a massive fear of mine. So
like I don't think I'll really be getting trains and
stuff when I get home like I do here.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So I want to talk about Jim and routine for
you because I knew you were going to say it,
but I almost want to challenge you on it.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Because I was so nervous when you were going over there.
I had people in my life like saying, is she
going for three months? And I'm like, yes, but there's
a part of me that knows how much this girl
loves her routine. That I'm worried for that, but it's
been so nice watching you not have a routine and
be okay because you really need that.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, it's crazy, And I said, like in a couple
a couple of months ago, like I'm super type A,
but I got to the point where I'm super regimented
that it's like debilitating because like I can't like be
a bit more go with the flow, which is something
that you really have to like get over here because
like again, tubes get delayed, tube strikes, Like you actually

(31:23):
can't control a lot of things, and like the stuff
that you can control, like you have to let go of.
So like I've really learned to like control the controllables
and like not stress about out about things that I
can't control. And like one of the big things was
like a routine here. And because it is so easy
to be super regimented and like with my OCD, like
that's what it thrives in, I had to give up

(31:45):
a lot of that, which I'm so glad that I
learned and I hopefully can apply when I get back
to Australia. And like I obviously like love the gym
and stuff like that, but like it is an obsession,
like it is like it has to get done. I
do enjoy it, so it's not like a punishment, but
it is an obsession of mine. Just routine is obsession,

(32:07):
and because that's part of routine, I am then obsessed
with it. And I'm so glad I like let it go.
Like when my trainer and everything like said like, oh
you're gonna go over there, like don't drop your routine,
don't drop going to the gym. I think I'm almost
glad I did drop it and I didn't obsess over
it and obsessed with getting it done because I can

(32:27):
like no, it's like a journey again. Like I'm obviously
sad I've like lost a lot of muscle and a
lot of progress and everything like that, but like that
stuff can always come.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Back, always comes back.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, it just got too hard here with like getting
a gym and stuff like that, and I honestly like
I wasn't wanting to do it, and I'm so glad
I like leant into that and didn't do it instead
of forcing myself to do it, because that's when it
becomes toxic. But yeah, I'm very excited to get back
into it.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Though I know a you're gonna go back to your
old digs, Like is it boxing still for you or
you're like something new, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I think I'm like getting into a bit more like
I think I'm ready to get back into pilates again.
I'm going to Saint Haven, which is like I got
a membership, so I am. They are like insane, like
I'm so excited to go there, which I think I
will like live there. It's like a wellness center. There's
like cafes and stuff in there that I can go to.
They have a pool so I can chill there in summer,

(33:23):
like and because I do work for myself and stuff
like that, like it will be good to like almost
go there and like work out of the office areas
and stuff like that. It's like a community area, so
like if I don't want to work at my house,
I can work there. So I think it will become
like a bit of a I'll be a Saint Haven
bitch like you guys will be sick of me being there.
But yeah, I'm really excited to go there, and I

(33:44):
think just like being familiar with my environment, I'm so
excited to go, Like it is so nice, like exploring
a new city and everything like that. But like I
know my places. I know I like the Gilson chopshut Salad,
so if I want to go out for dinner, I
can go to the Gilson my coffee places, but like here,
you don't know the coffee places, so it's like you're
taking a risk every time. I just know I can

(34:06):
go to my coffee spot and I'm gonna get a
good coffee. Like I just am so excited to be
familiar with shit again. But I am familiar with stuff
here now, but like really really familiar with stuff back
at Melbourne.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
And you do forget how unsettling it is when you're
somewhere and you just like simply don't know whether the
term left or righter, go this way or that way.
You actually, I have no idea where I am.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, I'm so excited for my screen time to go down,
so I'm not on maps all the time looking if
I'm going westbound, eastbound northbound to epping up Edgewood Square Road,
Like it's it's confusing, Like people that have that shit
downpacked is like insane. Like my hat goes off to you.
But I'm excited just to like be able to switch
my brain off in those type of situations.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
And you mentioned coffee as well, Like, is are you
simply excited for coffee? Isn't that bad over there? I'm
asking for future me next year because I will not
cope well if I don't have a good coffee.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
I haven't had a sing I haven't had an almond
milk cappuccino since I left Melbourne. I've converted into a
mucha girl because the coffee is so diabolical here. Yeah,
the much of spots because much is such a trend
at the moment. They really nail the trends. But like,
the coffee is just not the same. They didn't make
it the same, which is nothing against them, but like,

(35:19):
Melbourne coffee is so superior. I haven't had one, but
I'm nervous and I'm going to get anxious about it
because I haven't had one in so long.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's going to like knock you out, I think.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, so excited. I'm so excited. I am an almond
milk cappuccino with one equal bitch, and I cannot wait
to inject that in my veins when I get home.
It's the first thing. Actually, it's not the first thing.
I'm going to do because I land at midnight. When
I wake up in the morning. Hell yeah, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
You've got a perfect your sleep before it.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
I don't think caffeine affects me.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Really, No, I'm new to it. I'm originally from Sydney,
so I only started drinking it two years ago, but
it sent me every time.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
But I think if it's like because the coffee is
not strong here, So like if I had if I
grew up in a place that the coffee wasn't strong,
and then I had a Melbourne coffee, I think it
would rock my socks off. Because coffee in Australia is
actually caffeine. It's actual coffee, like when it's in like
America and stuff like that, it's it's a bit like fake,
but like because I grew up on that shit, it's

(36:23):
like part of my DNA. But I am really excited
for a coffee.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
How about like family friends and like obviously yes, excited
to see them, but it's almost like are you just
gonna die when, like, for example, you see your mom
for the first time, Like I imagine when things have been challenging,
like calling her, it'd be nice to her voice, but
it's probably not enough.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I've said this before, Like I have grown up a
very independent person because my parents were like my dad
was a director of boarding and like my mum, like
both my parents worked full time. I was like I
bought before and after schoolcare. Kid Like, I grew up
really really independent. So like I don't necessarily miss my
family when I'm in Melbourne, but now that I've been

(37:06):
away for so long, I do miss them, but I
don't lean on them. But I think, yeah, I'm excited
to hug my mom, excited to hug my dad, like
they've been here for me a lot when I've been
going through shit in my personal life while I'm over here,
which has been like quite a lot. Yeah, I'm really
excited to see them. And I don't think I definitely

(37:27):
know I took them for granted of them being so
accessible to me while I was over here, and I'm
like knowing and going home knowing I need to make
more of a conscious effort with them, because like they
are amazing people and they're the best, and like I
love them so much and I'm so grateful I learned that.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, because it's not that you need distance to know where,
but like we're talking before. I'm happy to say this
because everything's okay now. But last week I called my
nan and I call her once a week, and I
had the Friday off for a public holidays. I was like,
I'm going to call you all my day off. I
forgot and then I got a call yesterday hearing that
she had a stroke and she's had such a healthy life,

(38:06):
no warnings before that, and she's okay, now I'm taking sorry. Yeah,
thank you, my love, And we have talked and you've
been such an amazing support, so thank you as well.
But like it was even that moment, yes, say, I'm like,
oh my god, I did not call her on Friday,
and like if things went bad, oh my god, I
would never forgive myself.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, and just like yeah, those little things of like
even checking in with people all the time, like and
I know I'm really bad at checking in, but like
life is such a precious thing and things can change
so so so quickly. Things happen really quickly, as Kim
Kardashian says, like it is kind of scary, I know,
and like you should never like your health and stuff

(38:46):
like that, never take it for granted and stuff like that.
Like it's absolutely insane and like my parents are in
good health, thank gosh, but like yeah, and the thing
is is like pill wait for your phone calls. Like
I say to my mum, like, oh, I'll call you tomorrow.
I have like a busy day today and then yeah,
like you forget and it's like she was waiting all day.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah that makes me so sad, I know, literally she said.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I was like oh mm, Like but that's the thing is,
like you really do have to make more effort with them.
And I know that, Like I need to be grateful
for the people that I have in my life, and
I am so grateful for them, but I need to
like nourish them. I need to like actually like showed
them gratitude one.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
And what is the pathway home? Like I kind of
know your vague days, but I don't know exactly how
it looks like, so what's the plan for the rest
of the time, and like how are you feeling about home?

Speaker 1 (39:40):
So excited to get home? Itching hitching because I didn't
know when I was getting get home because I did
have a flight book But then when I had my
flight booked, I think that's when I like mentally checked
out So I've been ready to go come home for
like a little bit longer than what I would have lied,
but I knew that I had Paris Fashion Week and

(40:02):
I'm going to Paris Fashion Week with Lorel, which is
an insane opportunity and I'm so so excited too, and
it's like the perfect way to end the trip. I'm crazy.
So I get back in like mid October. I'm not
going to tell the exact dates because I am surprising
a few people. So get home and then just like

(40:22):
literally I get home and I'm straight back into it
because I'm like, I don't want jet lag. I don't
want to be sitting around. I don't want to be
like what am I doing and like feeling everything. So
I've like booked myself sick for one for that first
week that I get home, So I get my groove
back and I'm like, this is why I'm here, this
is my things. Like I'm knowledgeable, like familiar with my environments.

(40:43):
I've got purpose and everything like that, Like I booked
myself sick, so I'm going to record. Yeah, guys, I'm
going to be recording into a studio, which I'm like
so excited. The episode is going to be so good.
We've got some really good death night up like everything
like that, because I'm like, we need to make this
shit happen.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
I love what we've been doing, but it's been harder inevitably.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
At that on the podcast, like it doesn't seem like
I can connect with you guys, like being in the studio,
having a reason to go to like I am filming
it out of my laptop and like that's a decision
I made, but I don't think I was necessarily aware
of the extremities of how hard it.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Could be, and just having a home now, your own visuals,
the socials that be going off. We've had great conversations,
we've got some exciting names planned.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
So good. Please stay tuned, guys. But yeah, it would
just be so much better. I'm just excited to get
back to familiarity and just like everything like that, Like
I'm gonna get a life coach because I have been
ever since I started twenty twenty four. I don't think
I've been in Melbourne for longer than a month.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I can I can second that.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, So I'm like, okay, I've running around Like there
was definitely some aspect of like running away from problems,
and I spoke about it last week with like I
hated Melbourne because of the situation I was in, But
now that the situation's healed and that chapter's really really closed,
I like want to love Melbourne again, and I want
to stop running away from it, and I want to
stop like distracting myself. So I'm not going to get

(42:12):
back into that and like help myself with a little
bit of direction, a little bit of purpose and just
not living in my head as much, which is.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Something I really really do, and it's a new youse.
I'm just excited. You know, even when you were leaving Melbourne,
I think there was a lot of distress going on
and you're at a bit of a cross roads in
your life. Like it's going to be so nice even
just experiencing you coming home with this new mindset or
these new experiences. I've heard nothing so like, oh my god,
I cant wait for our first sit down.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah, I can really tell you the law.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
We're going to bed like a three parter.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, Oh my god. I have so much to die,
so so much to say, but this is like, yeah,
I'm waiting to get home, which I'm trying to still
enjoy it. Like today is my last full day in London.
I'm going to go out. We're we're exploring the city
with one of my friends who's here, and then I
go to Paris tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I'm so jealous.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Countdown. He's on just over a week, but I'm so
anxious because I have to get like seventy kilos worth
of stuff on the Eurostars. So like, pray for me. Oh,
I unpack that next episode, guys, like that is going
to be intense.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, with the results hopefully.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, one hundred percent. If you're hearing next week's episodes,
I've safely gotten this microphone to Paris and I'm recording
it in the hotel.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
I'm crossing my fingers just to make my job a
little bit easier.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah, hopefully hopefully else.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
We're fun, right, so we'll cross that French when we
get that.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Yeah, I'll be there to tell the story, guys, and
you guys will hear it on the other end, you
just won't be a part of it actually knowing me,
I'll probably blog it, so you guys will be a
part of it. Well, thank you guys so much for
coming on this week's episode. This is the final London series.
Thank you guys so much for being a part of
the journey. I can't wait for the episodes to be

(43:57):
Let's be honest, way better and way more professional and
Hi Rez and everything like that. And I'm sure Blake's
more excited than I actually know. Blake isn't more excited,
Blake's just as excited. But yeah, thank you so much
for joining me, Blake.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Pleasure, my love. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
And we'll see you guys in next week's episode.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Bye Bye,
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