November 3, 2025 • 38 mins
Welcome back girls! We had a fun guest pull out just before our recording so I invited producer Blakey to jump on the mic to unpack the latest in pop culture at the moments. We talk through Lily Allen's explosive new album and the details you may have missed, Hailey vs Selena (again), what the hell is going down between Alix Earle & Alex Cooper as well as so many more stories. We had the best time doing this and want to make it a monthly episode, let us know what you want to hear about next time xx
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everybody, Welcome back to Tuesday's episode of Hotter than Yesterday.
Our guests actually canceled what's going to tell you who
it is? But you have to wait and see. So
we've got Blake here again to help me out. So
we're really just running on our feet.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hello, and thank god this is not visual, because like
I think, I come not like dressed up, but I
usually come presentable.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Today's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm in a hat. I never wear hats. That's like
it's a cry for like a mental health crisis.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Things. I'm going, well, if I'm wearing a.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hat, oh, well, do we want to unpack these or No?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Things genuinely are fine, just like it's Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's Friday, it's to work from home day for you
as well. You weren't really prepared. No, you were prepared
to be off camera and I threw this on you
twenty minutes ago. So anyway, but there is so much
pop culture drama going on, so I feel like we
should just all unpack it speak about a few things
that are going on, because there's a lot, especially in
the artists world. I know, there's so much going on.
(00:58):
So I feel like I'm actually not really chronically online,
and that's kind of weird to say because it's like
my job. But I'm not necessarily a scroller because it
like sends me into anxiety. So some things Blake might
spring on me and I might not know when we
can unpack it together. And I'm going to put my
opinions in because opinions are like ourseholes and everyone has one,
(01:18):
and my asshole wants to be really big today apparently,
so I went to make a real credit open and
flicked me. It's Friday, It's silly Friday. We're all about
to clock off. Everyone's about to go to Derby Day.
I'm ready to have a fun weekend. Like it's just
gonna be a good.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Chill it it is, let's get the vibes going. I
find it really funny. I feel like we're opposeec I
do not post online, but I'm chronically online. Yeah, I
feel like I can really help you out.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah yeah, I think that's normally how it goes, Like
a lot of like I think you would be surprised
a lot of influences aren't up to date with things
because I think it's like already online enough. I'm not
going to like scroll heaps. Yeah, I'm so, I'm not
really a consumer.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And it's so now because like your biggest pop culture
story could be one that I have no idea about it. Yeah,
Like there's like influencer beef in America and I almost
added it, but I did not have the time to
get my head around it, Whereas I feel like, maybe
you know about it.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Well, this was I think this is the first thing
to start. Do you know about the Halle Batcher drama?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
This was it? So literally educate me.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Okay, this is a very very big topic. And I
love Halle, Like I think she's like one of my
favorite influencers. Like I will always watch her. I love
her podcast. It's like very chatty. It's just like very chill,
Like she doesn't glamorize anything. She's not super polished, and
that's like the type of people I love watching, especially
like as an American. Yeah I'm not an American, as she's
(02:41):
an American, and like her and Victoria Paris, like they're
just like the people I love to watch. She kind
of posted, well, there was an episode from her podcast
Click posted saying that like the last two people that
she slept with asked if like to you like wanted
to use a condom and she was like, sorry, I'm
(03:02):
sitting in a room with a bunch of males like
speaking about safe sex anyway, she wanted they both of
them want Like the last two people she had sex
with like both asked to use condoms both times, and
she was like, if ruin's the vibe, I don't like
having sex with condoms on. A lot of my friends
don't like having sex with condoms on, Like, I already
have a Marina, I'm already protected. I'm not gonna use that, like,
(03:24):
take your fucking condom on, I don't want it wrapped
up kind of vibe. And then everyone went online and
was like what the fuck, And then she posted another
one was like I don't want like your dip wrapped up,
Like come on, like, get over it. I have a Marina,
And everyone's like, that's not the fucking point, babe, Like,
first of all, you're in America. Yes, okay, maybe you
live in a state that has an abortion, but there's
(03:46):
a lot of states that can't have abortions. Yeah next
door may not, so yeah, like so stop preaching to
people about unprotected sex, Like, yes, you have a marina,
but some people don't and like, don't preach about that fast,
but then everyone's that is not even like the thing
we're speaking about. We're speaking about fucking STDs, bro, Like
that is why you use a condom as well. It's
(04:08):
not just to not get pregnant. Like, if you can
sleep with someone without a fucking condom on, you can
get an SDD. And there are so many sdds in
this world, and it's increasing rapidly because not wearing a
condom is like low key a trend at the moment,
Wrap your fucking dick up, wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And I find it funny that she's slept with these
two guys so obviously, after them saying I want to
wear a condom, her saying no, they've ended up having sex.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I kind of look at that in like if the
roles were reversed, And I don't think the fact that
she doesn't want them to wear a condom should just
mean you're not wearing one. Yes, if they wanted to, girl,
it's gotta let.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Them one hundred percent. Now theory my opinion on this. Again,
opinions are like ourseholes, so just like take what you
want with it. But I completely understand in over long
term relationship, the sense of a condom in the bedroom
is okay because technically, if you're in a relationship, normally
(05:08):
it's just between two people and that is your only
sexual partner. So if you did have something like the
Marina or something like that, and you were not looking
at getting pregnant and those things like pregnancy was out
of the problem. Or even if you did fall pregnant,
you wouldn't mind keeping the baby. Not using save sex,
I think is okay because you're only having sex with
(05:29):
that one person. So you both know you've either been
sleeping with each other for nine months. You both know
you don't have ScDs. Clemdia is out of the chat.
The CP is not there. Gonnorrhea ain't there. It's out there.
Herpes ain't there because you're sleeping with the same person consecutively.
But in Halley's situation, she's not sleeping with the same
(05:49):
person consecutively. And if you are, if you have a
little sneaky link, but then you're not loyal to that
sneaky link, you're then putting the other person other mail
at risk because you might have had sex with Bobby
or on fucking Tuesday and then sex with Johnny on Thursday.
And if you didn't have safe sex with Johnny with Bobby,
you're then putting Johnny at risk because neither of you
(06:09):
wore a condom.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And you don't know any of that rosters. Yeah, it's
like it's do it your own risk.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, and Bobby might put be sleeping with Sarah on Monday,
and then he's putting you a risk. I wanted a
research assignment back in my Uni days about herpes. One
in three people have herpes. It is so common to
spread if you have. This is really educational for you guys.
If you have a cold sal you know that's herpes, right, Yeah,
(06:35):
So if you then give oral sex, I'm really going
open ham on this podcast right now. If you then
have oral sex and you have the presence of a
cold salt in your mouth or the bacteria, you might
not even have it, Like it's might not even come
up on your lip yet. It might be coming up
the next morning and you're giving oral sex to night
before you can give that person general to herpes. So,
(06:57):
first of all, don't be having oral sex with people. Really,
I don't know, because who like I just weeds me out.
I already have community issues, so intimacy issues. So I'm
fucking going far away and clear for anything with male substance.
But substance but like genitalia. Yeah, oh men disgust me, yuck,
(07:20):
you go to therapy. But also, herpies is also something
that someone has for life, and that that stuff can
they dormate in men, especially like men sometimes don't really
know that they actually do have general to herpes because
a lot of the symptoms only come up in women.
So wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, let's just not I have a girlfriend when I
met her in Uni, she has lifelong herpes because her
dad kissed her on the lips when she was like
a baby and he had a colto Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, but that's the thing. Yeah once once you have it.
And that's the thing is like people always go, oh,
and if you do have herpes, because I can guarantee
you someone listening to this podcast that has herpees. There's
nothing wrong, No, with her pies. There's absolutely nothing wrong.
A lot of the time you can't control it because
you can even share a straw with someone who's got
a cold saw and you can get it. It is
(08:13):
so common. It's nothing to be ashamed of, but it
is more I'm tying it back to the problem with
what Hallie was speaking about. You need to be protecting
yourself and protecting other people because just because you do
have is, it doesn't mean the other person next to
you deserves to have it as well. It isn't something
that you should be ashamed of, but it is still
something that we should be practicing safely, and she's just
(08:35):
completely and blatantly disregarded that and then is educating and
influencing young people to not be practicing safe section measures.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And I think herpies is a thing where a lot
of people are just like, I don't have that, or
I haven't had that, not even knowing they have a
old saw like yeah said, or coming up the next day.
So I think we're only drumming in on it because
it's super like yeah, prevalent and it can happen, and it's.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Not something like chlamydia where you can get a treatment
for and you never have it again, like yes, okay,
getting the clap or BV or something like that. It's
not something you ideally want, but you can treat it
and it can go away. Nothing and sed is nothing
to ever be ashamed of because a lot of the
time it's not even your vault. Just practice safe sex.
If you're not sleeping with one consecutive person and only
(09:24):
one consecutive person, I think pull that game is also
not reliable. So wrap it up, wrap it up. It's
not hard, or don't even have sex like me, become
a reborn budge Mary, either one.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Okay, I have a story for you. Are you across
a Lily Allen album?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I'm so across this. I've got screenshots of the lyrics.
I like.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So obviously she disappeared for a hot manner. Yeah, fell
from grace, So like this revitalization and just her appearing
in front of us in this way is just like
so epic to me. It's my main story of the week.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, so correct me if I'm wrong. This is the
storyline that I know. So, she was married to David Harper,
who is the father on Stranger Things? Is that who
father figure? He's a father figure on Stranger Things. I
haven't watched Stranger Things, but this man their marriage was.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Not something I want.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
And and she has now released an album that she's
gone through a divorce with this man, and we know
dis tracks. We've got a Jake Paul distract. We've got
the Charlie xx Taylor Swift distrack, which will also unpack
because that's kind of tea. There's always like Kanye doing
a little dis track at Kim K. Like we've got
the Kendrick Lamar and the Drake distracks. Like there's dis tracks,
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but it's always a subtle dig. Yeah, you know, like
the Kendrick one is like always a subtle dig that
like he likes bbls and like he's like all of
this stuff and stuff like that. I'm not really across
that one, but this one was like, I'm not even
going to beat around the bush to what this man
did to me. I'm just gonna make full songs about
(11:10):
the disgusting stuff that this man has done.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And she wrote this all in ten days.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So there's one called Madeleine and some of the lyrics goes,
I'm not convinced that he didn't fuck you in our
house due to ever talk about me. Has he told
you that he doesn't even love me? I bet he
tells you he loves you. I've gotten old, gotten ugly.
I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of his mouth.
And then in that thing as well. It also says
(11:36):
we had an arrangement, be discreet and don't be blatant,
there had to be payments, but it had to be
with strangers. But you're not a stranger, Madeleine. I'm not
convinced that he didn't fuck you in our house, which
pretty much is implying that they had opened their marriage
at one point. There was an arrangement, so they had
agreed to not be discreet about it, don't be blatant
(12:00):
about it, but it has to be with a hooker,
and it has to be with a stranger. There has
to be a payment, so if you're sleeping with someone
outside of our marriage, it has to be with an escort,
a hooker, trust someone. There has to be transactions, so
the woman's getting payment for it. AKA. Then they're also
not allowed to speak about it because obviously they're both
famous people, so NDAs and stuff like that would have
(12:24):
also been involved, and they probably wanted to protect themselves
from the public, so they would have gone to someone
that they was a transaction or a payment towards it
that then they wouldn't speak about it, if that makes sense,
because that's what a lot of cheaters do, is they
do sleep with escorts and stuff like that, and people
like that so their husbands and their wives don't find out.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, or they'll try and change the terms yes of
the relationship aka opener and most likely break those rules.
I think our problem here is that there's so many
lyrics to unpack. But even at the end of the
first song, they're obviously not real voice memos. But she's
kind of done a play of the FaceTime when he
called her to say he wanted to open up the marriage,
(13:09):
and you could tell her was such a like, oh,
we like, obviously this upsets me, but I want you
to be happy. I think we've all been there where
you just like want to keep your partner. Yeah, so
you're trying to keep them happy, you.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Say, just sort of losing them seems worse than like
what they're offering, so you're like, I will take anything
to make you happy.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And I was listening to Shameless. They're bringing out old
interviews and like, obviously the internet's gone crazy, like now
looking into the marriage.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
He spoke about how he.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Fell in love with Lily at the start, and I
think he said I was going through this period where
I just wanted to be brutally honest, and on our
third date, I told her something that no human has
ever accepted about me before, and she was okay with
something that I thought she wouldn't be. But I'm fully like,
did you just tell her you don't believe in monogamy?
And this is just transpired over ten years up until
(14:00):
this album and now we've just got this.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's a hot mess, but I'm loving her.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But even like this whole stuff has now resurfaced them
doing a house tour. Yeah, and he just fucking hates her,
like and now everyone is like, may I never have
love like they had because he despises her. Every time
she made a joke, he would roll his eyes like
they were doing, Yeah, this is my wardrobe. It's mainly
(14:25):
for her and like everything, and she was like, I
build this, I design this, And she was like, well
you didn't build it. This man in Brazilia and he's like,
I'm like, you get your fucking dirty hands, man, then
you can take credit for it.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, And just the way she looks at him when
he speaks, She's like, I want to knock you out
right now.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah. I'm like, everyone's like, release her from this jail.
There's also another song that I thought was I'm like, yeah, tee, Lily,
you fucking cut that shit. I didn't know it was
your pussy palace. I always thought it was a dojo,
so I'm looking at a sex addict. I'll talk about
a low blow like bro And I didn't know what
do joke meant, so I searched it up. A dojo
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is Japanese for training hall or place of the way,
so it's a metaphors she things, I always thought it
was a dojo. On the surface of lyrics is set
up as an expectation to the apartment that she visits
is the dojo. The reality is that she's discovering sex toys, condoms,
leaving her to realize this space was anything but that.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, and a box of letters. That's the main thing
for me. I'm like, I need to read.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
All of those, like I just respect her so much. Like,
Lily Allen, you have really put yourself back on the map.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I know.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And this is how she first got famous as well,
because her lyrics are not lyrics.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
She does not mess around. She like cuts deep into
your heart.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Live the sick yeah everyone has and everyone can relate
about it. In some way I can relate about it
because a striper message me saying it's not my boyfriend
at the strip clubs one time. I'm like, yeah, I
can understand that. Like that sucks, like just casually, yeah,
just like I'm Lily Allen, Lily Allen, your shit out
of you?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And I think, what's making me so happy of this?
And we'll touch on backlash quickly, But I think she's
touched a lot in the album about feeling like her
time was done and she's going through a career. Loll
she's not as famous anymore, and I think, you know,
when you get to that age she's turning forty, you
think your time in the sun is done, like as
an But like I think she's just getting started.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And it's so iconic because she's released just before the
season three of Strange Things comes out. It's like, fuck you, bro,
But a few.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Things have come up.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
People are now digging up Lily's backyard.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Let's call it. Are you across? As Zoe Krabat saying.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
In her book Lily's a few years ago, she spoke
about kissing Zoe Krabat, saying that they made out at
one point.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Zoe than when I believe on Andy.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Cohen and she got asked about it and she goes
by kiss you mean her aggressively forcing herself on me.
She's getting a lot of backlash there hasn't really responded
to that. I'm anxiously watching for that because that's a
very disturbing little part of the story. But the main
thing that people are talking about is like her last relationship.
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She admitted that that ended due to cheating. Whereas she
was a cheater, she was hiring female a Scots when
she was away from home because she felt lonely. And
now people are saying that, no, you can't write this
cheating album now.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Ah, it's like, yeah, two rites don't make a wrong baby.
You can't fucking be doing that. And then out in
this man, is that what it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Like, Yeah, I think the only grace I'll give her
is like the stage in life she's in now, Like
it's obviously a very different story. You know, I'm not
excusing things, but like cheating on your boyfriend verse experiencing cheating,
but you're a mum and you're in a marriage of
ten years and you go through a very public.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, like context is a really good thing when it
comes to those things. Yeah, but that's the thing is
like I always get really confused has to guys when
they're like dating, Like say you and I were dating, right, sure,
so busted And like how boys like sometimes find it
really hot when their girlfriends like kiss other girls. Yeah,
(18:06):
and they're like, oh, but it's like Lily Allen, like
you're hiring female life girls because you're but you're sleeping
with them. But in her mind, she's probably like, oh,
well it's another woman. I'm not cheating on you, but
it is.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It changes the narrative, but it doesn't. It really depends
how you stand with that.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, Like Okay, for example, you me and Norah all
on a night out and I just kiss Norah on
the lips like your boyfriend. You'd be like, what the
fuck would you think in your mind, that's no one
cheating on you.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
No, and my girlfriends do it all the time. And
it's not like a makeout like he's not into it,
but like they'll pack him for a bit of fun.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I'm gonna say no, but like okay.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
But what if another gay, gay gay male did it
as for fun? Yeah? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so fair.
But then again, like it's because it's the same sex.
But it's like I don't really know. I just find
it weird. Why do you get off of like women
kissing other women?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, respond if you're listening.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah I'm interested. It's like, oh, yeah, I hooked up
with my friend you girl's bathroom. But it's like you're
in a committed relationship. Is that like not like I
like the boys, Like that's so hard?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, you fucking kiss the girl.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't like girls. And my boyfriend finds it's so
hard kissed me. I'm just like, you're performing for him.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
If someone said that to me, Oh, I was good
at a leak so much. There was this one situation where
I got caught in a situation of me kissing a
girl and I think I had my eyes so she
kissed me, and it was like because her boyfriend was like,
my boyfriend like things like my boyfriend lams you like,
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and we're at a festival and we're all dancing. Next second,
she's all up in my face kissing me. I have
my eyes open the whole time. But I was like
looking at the boyfriend, I'm like, are you sure you're
liking this?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Like what I'm so intrigued. Now.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I was so confused, but I was like, I feel
like I'm weirdly intruding on something that you guys have
had a conversation, and now I'm just like.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Your prop Yeah, i'd be the same.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, I just find it.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Really it's a bit performative if you're like.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, but it's like you can't kiss her no, or me, Yeah,
but I can kiss her.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think it's maybe is it? Because like, technically you
guys are all like, like everyone's straight, So if I
kiss your boyfriend, then it's like that's cheating.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
But intrigue, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It just doesn't make sense in my mind, like preferably,
I like I don't really need to kiss other people.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, we haven't landed anywhere, but if you're listening, please
like clarify this for us.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah we could be missing like a really crucial point.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
And then let us know why you think your girlfriend
kissing other girls are hot is hot? And why people
do it? Because surgeon Mary over here, let us know.
I don't know anything. So another big news in the
pop culture drama artist drama dish tracks is Charlie XCX.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I'm so team Charlie.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I will also agree with you. I'm not the biggest
Charlie xx girl, But then I saw her at Coachella
and I'm appreciately a brat so good love her, so hot,
so cool, She's a vibe. I also so much respect
for her that she's like a big famous person, but
like she literally just got married to her husband, like
in like a church in England, and then they went
(21:40):
to the pub after and.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Like so much fun, handed cigarettes out to all their guests,
like so much fun.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Like respect, Charlie, My love for you has grown over time. Taite.
We we have.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Differing values, but I saw something of you online this week, Sam.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Keep it one hundred up the lamb the sea, the stunt.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Thing that really shocked me.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I either watch it like three times to make sure
you there wasn't a gun to your head, or like
it was actually you.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, I don't eat it's a fear lear It's just
a catchy song. It's just catchy. I haven't listened to
the song through and through. It's just like when I
catch myself on the four you page, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, and I really like open lighte randomly, don't ask
me to singer because I now forget how it is.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Isn't that Oh no, Aphelia is They're kind of the same.
This is a problem, right right, Yes, I don't know
anything else in the album, but yeah, I'm just not
a big fan. I respect the large cult and I'm
not here to offend anyone. I completely understand why the
Tate hype is real. She's such a successful woman, girl power,
love all of it. I just was never a big Tate. No.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
She came out when she was young, and I feel
like you either had to jump on that bus when
we're all young age, but I missed her.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, I just was like never, like I was a
big fergie girl, fergy black eyed peas. I think that's
because I grew up with my brothers, and my brothers
would be like, no fucking way, we're not putting Tata
and we're putting black eyed peas on. Yeah, so it
was more like the area that I was in. But yeah,
I don't really like love Tate. Maddie Dylan always gets
mad at me because she's like tatastance. She's got like
(23:20):
a Tayta tattoo on her and like she loves.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Tay There's always one in your life.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I like tagged your in that video and she's like,
I'm so proud of you for lacking this and I was.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Like, yeah, I can pretty easily unpack this beat because
I'm pretty well across it. So, Charlie's husband is in
the nineteen seventy five and Taylor used to date Matt Healley, Yes,
also in the nineteen.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Nineteen seventy five. And in twenty twenty four, Charlie released
a song or an album, and then in the song
Sympathy is a Knife, she made a dig at Taylor Swift,
saying I don't want to see her backstage and my
boyfriend show fingers crossed behind my back. I hope they
break up.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, so she was.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Like behind the scenes, like not rooting for Tita and
Matt Heally.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And I've listened to that song. I actually quite like it.
I think it was just a very honest song and
I think what she was trying to express she hasn't
told me this, I can't confirm.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
No, she texted it.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, And I think it's a song about feeling insecure
around people who are maybe your peers, but more successful
than you. I think at that point We've always known
Charlie XCX, but she's never had this moment until now
where she opened for Taylor Swift at her concerts.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yes they did.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Hey, Yeah, Like it's always been very disproportionate, and Taylor's
obviously just like become a megastar and Charlie's just waited
patiently for her time. So absolutely I understand that feeling
of insecurity. And we talk about envy vs. Jealousy, yes
a lot, Like I really do see it, and I
think it can be healthy to feel.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
That way and be honest about it as well.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yes, but I'm not saying that I think Taita did
help her out so much. Definitely that then kind of
making a dig that's a little low.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, And you of course feel ten times more betrayed
by the guy's friend group when you go through a breakup.
So like probably knowing that Charlie had ill feelings towards
her in the context of them both being with a
band member and probably seeing each other a lot, Yeah,
that would sting.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yes, So Tita clapped back.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
She went crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
She always has one song on every album. Last one
was Kim. This one's Charlie remembers thank you. Amy and
she like capitalized the kay I am in that. Yeah,
she always has like a scratch to itch each album.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
And I think this is why I have a bit
of a bone to pick with Taita, because I think
she's always known as like this amazing girl's girl, Like
she's like preaching, singing to the choir about girls, girl
and everything like this. And I'm also so ridiculed online
apparently I'm not a girl's girl, but I am. But
(26:07):
she's like always like girl power, girl boss, girl power.
But she's constantly making songs digging at women. So it's like,
what are you preaching? Are you practicing what you're preaching?
But these songs that these fourteen like seven year olds
are singing and dissing are the women. But then you
I think she like she puts fucking gasoline on the
(26:28):
fire lights it and then goes what a me?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, and disine, I don't know who did that?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Selena? Was that you? Kendall? Was that you? No, Travis,
come come rescue me. It's like, Babe, you put gasoline
in it and you lit it up, and then you're
gonna go everyone go get your sick can cowgo boots on?
And let's go rodeo to it and pretend that I
just didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
And hand out friendship bracelet.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, and yes, you can absolutely let your feelings be
known in the song.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
But then in the same albums, which are mostly around
her exit, she can equally in those songs say you
were the best thing, you made me so happy, but this.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Really broke my heart La la Lah.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
But then with the women, she's actually like, naw, fuck you,
you rule my life. Yeah she did not say that,
of course, but the tone of these songs are so aggressive.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It's like keep a storyline. And I think that's why
it's like she can like this woman. I feel I
can get away with bloody murder like because then it's like,
goes on the thing. I'm like, I feel like Taylor
and Selena are like two yeah, and then it's like
Hailey is on the other side, and Hailey's always villainized,
which is why I sympathize with Haley. But you've never
seen Haley make it. Has she made a Dick's.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Made I would say no, but people probably want to
kill me for that.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I wouldn't say she's made overtly digs like others.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Have, Yeah, and maybe subliminal ones where I think, and
so funny that we're moving on to this because like
my top line, my top top point in our working
document is at Sam we literally first bonded over this
feud and it's still ef thing going.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It will go into beyond when they're in this grave. Yeah,
and Selena.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
What I was going to say is I think Selena's
fans are the problem. I think nine times out of
ten they've blown everything up. I think the reason we're
speaking about this now because I thought it was over,
but it's obviously not. Hailey was on a red carpet
she got asked a question about Road and Selena being
competitive with other celebrities. Ladida, her publicist, went to stop
(28:27):
the question, and Hailey just said, no, I don't feel
competitive with people I'm not inspired by. I never asked
to be compared to her, and I don't find that fair.
Minutes after it is like top news on the Internet,
and then that's.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
A good response. Though.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I liked it, but as soon as I read it,
I was like, I know where this is going to go.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yes, but I just think I'm like, we constantly just
pin women against women. Yeah, and we go so far
back in where we're ever meant to go with women
becoming accessful and putting their trademark on things, because it's
like everyone just fuels their life off beef. And that's
the problem of like I can even feel like we
(29:08):
always speak about how Melbourne's such a small world where
it's like I hear rumors about myself and stuff like that,
and the only reason why it gets worse is because
other people are speaking about it, yeah, and I'm not.
And like imagine on a scale of like how famous
these people are in the whole world where it's like, yeah,
the fans for them would just make it worse.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And I think in like Australia, say something's going on,
say with you, Like, I think it would take like
three days worth of comments for it to build traction,
Whereas Hayley probably answered this question left the event and
they were already already likee hundred articles about it. But
Selena has responded and this has riled me up. I
thought it was fake when I first saw it. Just
(29:51):
posted a blank Instagram story and deleted it like two
hours after which she seems to do all the time.
Just leave the girl alone. She can say whatever she
ones doesn't affect my life whatsoever? Or does it's just
about relevance, not intelligence.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Be kind?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh really, all brands inspire me. There is room for everyone,
and hopefully we can all stop.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Wait what did Haley say again?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
She just said I don't get competitive with people slash
things I'm not inspired by, which I hope she didn't
mean that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
As a dig.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Like I actually think she's a really sweet human, which
might be my problem, but like, yeah, I do see
Waite Selena's fans probably gassed her up to be like,
oh share.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
This bitch said this.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
People need to take a leaf out of Kim Kardashian's
book drafted up in your notes and don't fucking post it.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, And like I don't want to be encouraging people
to do this, but I think Kim just like gas
lights and she's like no, I'm over that.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
No, no, no, and like yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
And I think that's like I've even said, like sometimes
I feel like I'm more open to criticism online and
like subject to it because people know I'm vulnerable. Yeah,
so it's like I'm going to push it where and
then they poke the bear and I'm like, fuck, that
really hurt. But like Kim poker Face, Yeah, nothing, you
don't know what effects, So you don't know what it
does because it's like she doesn't give it airtime.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
So it's like, oh, I have wondered about that, but like,
consider this pretty much her formal introduction to the world
was her porn video.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, surely after that.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You're like, yeah, she's like on bullet Bruce, you.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Can't fucking hurt me. No, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, nothing left for you to see. Yeah, you've seen
it and you know it all.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Like she just really does not take the bait, and
I like respect it so much of her.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I think what I struggle with Selena's responds, and I
struggle with her overall. I think she's a kindness warrior.
But there's always a sentence or two that leaves things
open to interpretation and gossip and it doesn't completely flatten
it or just kill it and nip it in the bar.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, it's like you literally could just like I'm married,
she's married. I'm fine, she's fine. Put it to sleep.
But they've never done that, never, And I pray for
the day because I'm over it. I think we all
are no, apparently not clearly not. I think the last
(32:18):
thing that we should end off on, seeing that we
are podcasting is the Alex Earl and Alex Cooper drama.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Another thing I'm very across see.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I'm not too across it. I obviously know that hot
Mess was once a thing of the Unwell Network, which
Alex Cooper founded, which has got like call her Daddy
extra Dirty, Melana Agi, Harry Josey's One, like all of
those things, and then suddenly hot Mess blit stop. I
(32:50):
think it was something to do with because Alex manages
Alex father's her manager, and I think there was something
to do with something like that without accents and stuff,
and I think there would have been so many millions
of views with Alex Earl. I think Alex Cooper low
key became a little bit threatened by Alex Earl. Yeah,
(33:11):
it was kind of like keep your friends close, but
your enemies closer type thing. It was kind of like
following my footsteps. But I think then Alex Earl's dad
would have been like, no, you're doing this.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And I think the difference is it's not like Alex
Cooper acquired alex L's podcast like it was when Alex
was at the Heights, like when she was just popping off.
She kind of designed this show for her. It was
going really well. I don't know what it was comparing
to on the charts with Call Her Daddy, but I
think strategically Hot Mess was never going to be bigger
(33:46):
than Call Her Daddy if she was under her network.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yes, one hundred, but I really really do not respect
what Alex Cooper has done post this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
No, I'm very disappointed, so.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Am I I think after the whole Sophia thing that
she went through with Sophia when they both obviously had
Called Her Daddy, I think everyone kind of was like,
could have just been a one off situation. But I
think the digs and the undertones that she's had when
she knows she's such an influential person, especially to young women,
and the stuff that she's made towards Alex Earl, your
careers are going on two different trajectories. I don't think
(34:20):
ever Alex Oh wanted to be the biggest podcaster. I
think she just wanted a way to connect with her
audience and it was never a competition for her. But
I think Alex made it. Alex Cooper made it a
competition with herself. Low key thinkink that alex was a
part of it, and I just think like, okay, how
much time like that TikTok? When Alex l responded being like,
how much time do you have? When they're speaking about it,
(34:41):
I don't think that's that bad.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Do you know the background of that though? No, So
remember alex Earl hate the Bothams. Yeah, so I should
have said that earlier. She posted a TikTok one day
and I don't think this is a correct app but
something to the extent of my astrologists or my co
stars said I can go crazy to that. Yes, and
the top comment was what happened between you and Alex Cooper?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
She responds, how much time do you have?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah? I remember watching the video. Yeah, but I didn't
think it was that bad.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Well, to add insult to injury, alex El's first Dancing
with the Stars dance was Circus.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
This is what I think is really really bad? Yeah,
because share it was Circus by Britney Spears. And then
Alex Cooper did this thing in Las Vegas for the
on One network and had all the things, and then
she also played Circus by Britney Spears and what was
the caption caption?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
How much time do you have? Because we could go
all night?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
There were a few things that I struggled with, Like
I think the fact she also got other huge influences
on that video.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, I think it's of us, and I don't think
it's like not that nice. No, And it's like Alex, oh,
he's on fucking Dancing with the Stars right now. Yeah,
Like again, it comes down to stop pinning women against women.
Why are we doing this? There's two so successful, such
successful women in business in the influencing industry, they're doing
(36:11):
great things for women. Why are you pinning each other
against each other?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
And on the internet so much? Like I'm a big
fan of both, Yes.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
But I've lost respect for Alex Cooper.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, and I think she was never exempt from the
Sophia stuff like that has always been a crack in
her story and something you look back on and you're like, what.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Is the truth there? Yes, are you as good as
we think you are?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Were you guilty in that situation? And then I think
this is whole things come up and it's undertones that
she's making it towards alex Earl, I'm like, this is
not helping you battle.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, when she's done episodes, you know, rallying on the
streets in support of not having abortion be legal. Yeah,
be illegal. I can't find my words today, like you
could be. And she does do so much more impactful
and important things. Is this going to be the all
your day on alex L? Who's hurting nobody? Sorry, you
mightn't like her because of whatever went on in the background.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
But that's business base.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You can both exist.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
And like as I was saying before before we started
this podcast and Bake came, is like the most rich
and successful people didn't get to the top by making
sure they had good relationships with everyone. Bill Gates, someone
fucking hates him out there, someone fucking hates him.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
So what Let it be Taylor Swift for example, Yes.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Let them leave, let them buy Mel Robbins and even
more Robin She's so successful, but someone fucking hates her
out there.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Her debt collector, I think she was in like eighteen million,
eight million dollars debt or something there you go on
that figure or something like that.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Like, I have so many fucking haters, shut out, use
a six one four six nine six one two like shout.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
The fuck out, you know, help you like this out?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah? I feel like that's enough drama for today's episode.
Thank you guys so much for tuning in. Let us
know what you think.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
This was fun. We need to do this more.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I think with this is a month and month once
a month catch up Pops culture. Because I lokely eat
this up and.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
I prep a lot for our episodes. I've had my
laptop close. This is like the best way to end
my week.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, nice little chat to end off the week. Perfect.
All right, guys, we'll see you next Tuesday on Hotter
Than Next Week. Goodbye,
Hi, everybody, Welcome back to Tuesday's episode of Hotter than Yesterday.
Our guests actually canceled what's going to tell you who
it is? But you have to wait and see. So
we've got Blake here again to help me out. So
we're really just running on our feet.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hello, and thank god this is not visual, because like
I think, I come not like dressed up, but I
usually come presentable.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Today's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm in a hat. I never wear hats. That's like
it's a cry for like a mental health crisis.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Things. I'm going, well, if I'm wearing a.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hat, oh, well, do we want to unpack these or No?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Things genuinely are fine, just like it's Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's Friday, it's to work from home day for you
as well. You weren't really prepared. No, you were prepared
to be off camera and I threw this on you
twenty minutes ago. So anyway, but there is so much
pop culture drama going on, so I feel like we
should just all unpack it speak about a few things
that are going on, because there's a lot, especially in
the artists world. I know, there's so much going on.
(00:58):
So I feel like I'm actually not really chronically online,
and that's kind of weird to say because it's like
my job. But I'm not necessarily a scroller because it
like sends me into anxiety. So some things Blake might
spring on me and I might not know when we
can unpack it together. And I'm going to put my
opinions in because opinions are like ourseholes and everyone has one,
(01:18):
and my asshole wants to be really big today apparently,
so I went to make a real credit open and
flicked me. It's Friday, It's silly Friday. We're all about
to clock off. Everyone's about to go to Derby Day.
I'm ready to have a fun weekend. Like it's just
gonna be a good.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Chill it it is, let's get the vibes going. I
find it really funny. I feel like we're opposeec I
do not post online, but I'm chronically online. Yeah, I
feel like I can really help you out.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah yeah, I think that's normally how it goes, Like
a lot of like I think you would be surprised
a lot of influences aren't up to date with things
because I think it's like already online enough. I'm not
going to like scroll heaps. Yeah, I'm so, I'm not
really a consumer.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And it's so now because like your biggest pop culture
story could be one that I have no idea about it. Yeah,
Like there's like influencer beef in America and I almost
added it, but I did not have the time to
get my head around it, Whereas I feel like, maybe
you know about it.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Well, this was I think this is the first thing
to start. Do you know about the Halle Batcher drama?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
This was it? So literally educate me.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Okay, this is a very very big topic. And I
love Halle, Like I think she's like one of my
favorite influencers. Like I will always watch her. I love
her podcast. It's like very chatty. It's just like very chill,
Like she doesn't glamorize anything. She's not super polished, and
that's like the type of people I love watching, especially
like as an American. Yeah I'm not an American, as she's
(02:41):
an American, and like her and Victoria Paris, like they're
just like the people I love to watch. She kind
of posted, well, there was an episode from her podcast
Click posted saying that like the last two people that
she slept with asked if like to you like wanted
to use a condom and she was like, sorry, I'm
(03:02):
sitting in a room with a bunch of males like
speaking about safe sex anyway, she wanted they both of
them want Like the last two people she had sex
with like both asked to use condoms both times, and
she was like, if ruin's the vibe, I don't like
having sex with condoms on. A lot of my friends
don't like having sex with condoms on, Like, I already
have a Marina, I'm already protected. I'm not gonna use that, like,
(03:24):
take your fucking condom on, I don't want it wrapped
up kind of vibe. And then everyone went online and
was like what the fuck, And then she posted another
one was like I don't want like your dip wrapped up,
Like come on, like, get over it. I have a Marina,
And everyone's like, that's not the fucking point, babe, Like,
first of all, you're in America. Yes, okay, maybe you
live in a state that has an abortion, but there's
(03:46):
a lot of states that can't have abortions. Yeah next
door may not, so yeah, like so stop preaching to
people about unprotected sex, Like, yes, you have a marina,
but some people don't and like, don't preach about that fast,
but then everyone's that is not even like the thing
we're speaking about. We're speaking about fucking STDs, bro, Like
that is why you use a condom as well. It's
(04:08):
not just to not get pregnant. Like, if you can
sleep with someone without a fucking condom on, you can
get an SDD. And there are so many sdds in
this world, and it's increasing rapidly because not wearing a
condom is like low key a trend at the moment,
Wrap your fucking dick up, wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And I find it funny that she's slept with these
two guys so obviously, after them saying I want to
wear a condom, her saying no, they've ended up having sex.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I kind of look at that in like if the
roles were reversed, And I don't think the fact that
she doesn't want them to wear a condom should just
mean you're not wearing one. Yes, if they wanted to, girl,
it's gotta let.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Them one hundred percent. Now theory my opinion on this. Again,
opinions are like ourseholes, so just like take what you
want with it. But I completely understand in over long
term relationship, the sense of a condom in the bedroom
is okay because technically, if you're in a relationship, normally
(05:08):
it's just between two people and that is your only
sexual partner. So if you did have something like the
Marina or something like that, and you were not looking
at getting pregnant and those things like pregnancy was out
of the problem. Or even if you did fall pregnant,
you wouldn't mind keeping the baby. Not using save sex,
I think is okay because you're only having sex with
(05:29):
that one person. So you both know you've either been
sleeping with each other for nine months. You both know
you don't have ScDs. Clemdia is out of the chat.
The CP is not there. Gonnorrhea ain't there. It's out there.
Herpes ain't there because you're sleeping with the same person consecutively.
But in Halley's situation, she's not sleeping with the same
(05:49):
person consecutively. And if you are, if you have a
little sneaky link, but then you're not loyal to that
sneaky link, you're then putting the other person other mail
at risk because you might have had sex with Bobby
or on fucking Tuesday and then sex with Johnny on Thursday.
And if you didn't have safe sex with Johnny with Bobby,
you're then putting Johnny at risk because neither of you
(06:09):
wore a condom.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And you don't know any of that rosters. Yeah, it's
like it's do it your own risk.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, and Bobby might put be sleeping with Sarah on Monday,
and then he's putting you a risk. I wanted a
research assignment back in my Uni days about herpes. One
in three people have herpes. It is so common to
spread if you have. This is really educational for you guys.
If you have a cold sal you know that's herpes, right, Yeah,
(06:35):
So if you then give oral sex, I'm really going
open ham on this podcast right now. If you then
have oral sex and you have the presence of a
cold salt in your mouth or the bacteria, you might
not even have it, Like it's might not even come
up on your lip yet. It might be coming up
the next morning and you're giving oral sex to night
before you can give that person general to herpes. So,
(06:57):
first of all, don't be having oral sex with people. Really,
I don't know, because who like I just weeds me out.
I already have community issues, so intimacy issues. So I'm
fucking going far away and clear for anything with male substance.
But substance but like genitalia. Yeah, oh men disgust me, yuck,
(07:20):
you go to therapy. But also, herpies is also something
that someone has for life, and that that stuff can
they dormate in men, especially like men sometimes don't really
know that they actually do have general to herpes because
a lot of the symptoms only come up in women.
So wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, let's just not I have a girlfriend when I
met her in Uni, she has lifelong herpes because her
dad kissed her on the lips when she was like
a baby and he had a colto Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, but that's the thing. Yeah once once you have it.
And that's the thing is like people always go, oh,
and if you do have herpes, because I can guarantee
you someone listening to this podcast that has herpees. There's
nothing wrong, No, with her pies. There's absolutely nothing wrong.
A lot of the time you can't control it because
you can even share a straw with someone who's got
a cold saw and you can get it. It is
(08:13):
so common. It's nothing to be ashamed of, but it
is more I'm tying it back to the problem with
what Hallie was speaking about. You need to be protecting
yourself and protecting other people because just because you do
have is, it doesn't mean the other person next to
you deserves to have it as well. It isn't something
that you should be ashamed of, but it is still
something that we should be practicing safely, and she's just
(08:35):
completely and blatantly disregarded that and then is educating and
influencing young people to not be practicing safe section measures.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And I think herpies is a thing where a lot
of people are just like, I don't have that, or
I haven't had that, not even knowing they have a
old saw like yeah said, or coming up the next day.
So I think we're only drumming in on it because
it's super like yeah, prevalent and it can happen, and it's.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Not something like chlamydia where you can get a treatment
for and you never have it again, like yes, okay,
getting the clap or BV or something like that. It's
not something you ideally want, but you can treat it
and it can go away. Nothing and sed is nothing
to ever be ashamed of because a lot of the
time it's not even your vault. Just practice safe sex.
If you're not sleeping with one consecutive person and only
(09:24):
one consecutive person, I think pull that game is also
not reliable. So wrap it up, wrap it up. It's
not hard, or don't even have sex like me, become
a reborn budge Mary, either one.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Okay, I have a story for you. Are you across
a Lily Allen album?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I'm so across this. I've got screenshots of the lyrics.
I like.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So obviously she disappeared for a hot manner. Yeah, fell
from grace, So like this revitalization and just her appearing
in front of us in this way is just like
so epic to me. It's my main story of the week.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, so correct me if I'm wrong. This is the
storyline that I know. So, she was married to David Harper,
who is the father on Stranger Things? Is that who
father figure? He's a father figure on Stranger Things. I
haven't watched Stranger Things, but this man their marriage was.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Not something I want.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
And and she has now released an album that she's
gone through a divorce with this man, and we know
dis tracks. We've got a Jake Paul distract. We've got
the Charlie xx Taylor Swift distrack, which will also unpack
because that's kind of tea. There's always like Kanye doing
a little dis track at Kim K. Like we've got
the Kendrick Lamar and the Drake distracks. Like there's dis tracks,
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but it's always a subtle dig. Yeah, you know, like
the Kendrick one is like always a subtle dig that
like he likes bbls and like he's like all of
this stuff and stuff like that. I'm not really across
that one, but this one was like, I'm not even
going to beat around the bush to what this man
did to me. I'm just gonna make full songs about
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the disgusting stuff that this man has done.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And she wrote this all in ten days.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So there's one called Madeleine and some of the lyrics goes,
I'm not convinced that he didn't fuck you in our
house due to ever talk about me. Has he told
you that he doesn't even love me? I bet he
tells you he loves you. I've gotten old, gotten ugly.
I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of his mouth.
And then in that thing as well. It also says
(11:36):
we had an arrangement, be discreet and don't be blatant,
there had to be payments, but it had to be
with strangers. But you're not a stranger, Madeleine. I'm not
convinced that he didn't fuck you in our house, which
pretty much is implying that they had opened their marriage
at one point. There was an arrangement, so they had
agreed to not be discreet about it, don't be blatant
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about it, but it has to be with a hooker,
and it has to be with a stranger. There has
to be a payment, so if you're sleeping with someone
outside of our marriage, it has to be with an escort,
a hooker, trust someone. There has to be transactions, so
the woman's getting payment for it. AKA. Then they're also
not allowed to speak about it because obviously they're both
famous people, so NDAs and stuff like that would have
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also been involved, and they probably wanted to protect themselves
from the public, so they would have gone to someone
that they was a transaction or a payment towards it
that then they wouldn't speak about it, if that makes sense,
because that's what a lot of cheaters do, is they
do sleep with escorts and stuff like that, and people
like that so their husbands and their wives don't find out.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, or they'll try and change the terms yes of
the relationship aka opener and most likely break those rules.
I think our problem here is that there's so many
lyrics to unpack. But even at the end of the
first song, they're obviously not real voice memos. But she's
kind of done a play of the FaceTime when he
called her to say he wanted to open up the marriage,
(13:09):
and you could tell her was such a like, oh,
we like, obviously this upsets me, but I want you
to be happy. I think we've all been there where
you just like want to keep your partner. Yeah, so
you're trying to keep them happy, you.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Say, just sort of losing them seems worse than like
what they're offering, so you're like, I will take anything
to make you happy.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And I was listening to Shameless. They're bringing out old
interviews and like, obviously the internet's gone crazy, like now
looking into the marriage.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
He spoke about how he.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Fell in love with Lily at the start, and I
think he said I was going through this period where
I just wanted to be brutally honest, and on our
third date, I told her something that no human has
ever accepted about me before, and she was okay with
something that I thought she wouldn't be. But I'm fully like,
did you just tell her you don't believe in monogamy?
And this is just transpired over ten years up until
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this album and now we've just got this.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's a hot mess, but I'm loving her.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But even like this whole stuff has now resurfaced them
doing a house tour. Yeah, and he just fucking hates her,
like and now everyone is like, may I never have
love like they had because he despises her. Every time
she made a joke, he would roll his eyes like
they were doing, Yeah, this is my wardrobe. It's mainly
(14:25):
for her and like everything, and she was like, I
build this, I design this, And she was like, well
you didn't build it. This man in Brazilia and he's like,
I'm like, you get your fucking dirty hands, man, then
you can take credit for it.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, And just the way she looks at him when
he speaks, She's like, I want to knock you out
right now.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah. I'm like, everyone's like, release her from this jail.
There's also another song that I thought was I'm like, yeah, tee, Lily,
you fucking cut that shit. I didn't know it was
your pussy palace. I always thought it was a dojo,
so I'm looking at a sex addict. I'll talk about
a low blow like bro And I didn't know what
do joke meant, so I searched it up. A dojo
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is Japanese for training hall or place of the way,
so it's a metaphors she things, I always thought it
was a dojo. On the surface of lyrics is set
up as an expectation to the apartment that she visits
is the dojo. The reality is that she's discovering sex toys, condoms,
leaving her to realize this space was anything but that.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, and a box of letters. That's the main thing
for me. I'm like, I need to read.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
All of those, like I just respect her so much. Like,
Lily Allen, you have really put yourself back on the map.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I know.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And this is how she first got famous as well,
because her lyrics are not lyrics.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
She does not mess around. She like cuts deep into
your heart.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Live the sick yeah everyone has and everyone can relate
about it. In some way I can relate about it
because a striper message me saying it's not my boyfriend
at the strip clubs one time. I'm like, yeah, I
can understand that. Like that sucks, like just casually, yeah,
just like I'm Lily Allen, Lily Allen, your shit out
of you?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And I think, what's making me so happy of this?
And we'll touch on backlash quickly, But I think she's
touched a lot in the album about feeling like her
time was done and she's going through a career. Loll
she's not as famous anymore, and I think, you know,
when you get to that age she's turning forty, you
think your time in the sun is done, like as
an But like I think she's just getting started.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And it's so iconic because she's released just before the
season three of Strange Things comes out. It's like, fuck you, bro,
But a few.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Things have come up.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
People are now digging up Lily's backyard.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Let's call it. Are you across? As Zoe Krabat saying.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
In her book Lily's a few years ago, she spoke
about kissing Zoe Krabat, saying that they made out at
one point.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Zoe than when I believe on Andy.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Cohen and she got asked about it and she goes
by kiss you mean her aggressively forcing herself on me.
She's getting a lot of backlash there hasn't really responded
to that. I'm anxiously watching for that because that's a
very disturbing little part of the story. But the main
thing that people are talking about is like her last relationship.
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She admitted that that ended due to cheating. Whereas she
was a cheater, she was hiring female a Scots when
she was away from home because she felt lonely. And
now people are saying that, no, you can't write this
cheating album now.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Ah, it's like, yeah, two rites don't make a wrong baby.
You can't fucking be doing that. And then out in
this man, is that what it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Like, Yeah, I think the only grace I'll give her
is like the stage in life she's in now, Like
it's obviously a very different story. You know, I'm not
excusing things, but like cheating on your boyfriend verse experiencing cheating,
but you're a mum and you're in a marriage of
ten years and you go through a very public.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, like context is a really good thing when it
comes to those things. Yeah, but that's the thing is
like I always get really confused has to guys when
they're like dating, Like say you and I were dating, right, sure,
so busted And like how boys like sometimes find it
really hot when their girlfriends like kiss other girls. Yeah,
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and they're like, oh, but it's like Lily Allen, like
you're hiring female life girls because you're but you're sleeping
with them. But in her mind, she's probably like, oh,
well it's another woman. I'm not cheating on you, but
it is.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It changes the narrative, but it doesn't. It really depends
how you stand with that.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, Like Okay, for example, you me and Norah all
on a night out and I just kiss Norah on
the lips like your boyfriend. You'd be like, what the
fuck would you think in your mind, that's no one
cheating on you.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
No, and my girlfriends do it all the time. And
it's not like a makeout like he's not into it,
but like they'll pack him for a bit of fun.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I'm gonna say no, but like okay.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
But what if another gay, gay gay male did it
as for fun? Yeah? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so fair.
But then again, like it's because it's the same sex.
But it's like I don't really know. I just find
it weird. Why do you get off of like women
kissing other women?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, respond if you're listening.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah I'm interested. It's like, oh, yeah, I hooked up
with my friend you girl's bathroom. But it's like you're
in a committed relationship. Is that like not like I
like the boys, Like that's so hard?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, you fucking kiss the girl.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't like girls. And my boyfriend finds it's so
hard kissed me. I'm just like, you're performing for him.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
If someone said that to me, Oh, I was good
at a leak so much. There was this one situation where
I got caught in a situation of me kissing a
girl and I think I had my eyes so she
kissed me, and it was like because her boyfriend was like,
my boyfriend like things like my boyfriend lams you like,
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and we're at a festival and we're all dancing. Next second,
she's all up in my face kissing me. I have
my eyes open the whole time. But I was like
looking at the boyfriend, I'm like, are you sure you're
liking this?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Like what I'm so intrigued. Now.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I was so confused, but I was like, I feel
like I'm weirdly intruding on something that you guys have
had a conversation, and now I'm just like.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Your prop Yeah, i'd be the same.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, I just find it.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Really it's a bit performative if you're like.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, but it's like you can't kiss her no, or me, Yeah,
but I can kiss her.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think it's maybe is it? Because like, technically you
guys are all like, like everyone's straight, So if I
kiss your boyfriend, then it's like that's cheating.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
But intrigue, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It just doesn't make sense in my mind, like preferably,
I like I don't really need to kiss other people.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, we haven't landed anywhere, but if you're listening, please
like clarify this for us.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah we could be missing like a really crucial point.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
And then let us know why you think your girlfriend
kissing other girls are hot is hot? And why people
do it? Because surgeon Mary over here, let us know.
I don't know anything. So another big news in the
pop culture drama artist drama dish tracks is Charlie XCX.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I'm so team Charlie.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I will also agree with you. I'm not the biggest
Charlie xx girl, But then I saw her at Coachella
and I'm appreciately a brat so good love her, so hot,
so cool, She's a vibe. I also so much respect
for her that she's like a big famous person, but
like she literally just got married to her husband, like
in like a church in England, and then they went
(21:40):
to the pub after and.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Like so much fun, handed cigarettes out to all their guests,
like so much fun.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Like respect, Charlie, My love for you has grown over time. Taite.
We we have.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Differing values, but I saw something of you online this week, Sam.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Keep it one hundred up the lamb the sea, the stunt.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Thing that really shocked me.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I either watch it like three times to make sure
you there wasn't a gun to your head, or like
it was actually you.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, I don't eat it's a fear lear It's just
a catchy song. It's just catchy. I haven't listened to
the song through and through. It's just like when I
catch myself on the four you page, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, and I really like open lighte randomly, don't ask
me to singer because I now forget how it is.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Isn't that Oh no, Aphelia is They're kind of the same.
This is a problem, right right, Yes, I don't know
anything else in the album, but yeah, I'm just not
a big fan. I respect the large cult and I'm
not here to offend anyone. I completely understand why the
Tate hype is real. She's such a successful woman, girl power,
love all of it. I just was never a big Tate. No.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
She came out when she was young, and I feel
like you either had to jump on that bus when
we're all young age, but I missed her.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, I just was like never, like I was a
big fergie girl, fergy black eyed peas. I think that's
because I grew up with my brothers, and my brothers
would be like, no fucking way, we're not putting Tata
and we're putting black eyed peas on. Yeah, so it
was more like the area that I was in. But yeah,
I don't really like love Tate. Maddie Dylan always gets
mad at me because she's like tatastance. She's got like
(23:20):
a Tayta tattoo on her and like she loves.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Tay There's always one in your life.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I like tagged your in that video and she's like,
I'm so proud of you for lacking this and I was.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Like, yeah, I can pretty easily unpack this beat because
I'm pretty well across it. So, Charlie's husband is in
the nineteen seventy five and Taylor used to date Matt Healley, Yes,
also in the nineteen.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Nineteen seventy five. And in twenty twenty four, Charlie released
a song or an album, and then in the song
Sympathy is a Knife, she made a dig at Taylor Swift,
saying I don't want to see her backstage and my
boyfriend show fingers crossed behind my back. I hope they
break up.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, so she was.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Like behind the scenes, like not rooting for Tita and
Matt Heally.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And I've listened to that song. I actually quite like it.
I think it was just a very honest song and
I think what she was trying to express she hasn't
told me this, I can't confirm.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
No, she texted it.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, And I think it's a song about feeling insecure
around people who are maybe your peers, but more successful
than you. I think at that point We've always known
Charlie XCX, but she's never had this moment until now
where she opened for Taylor Swift at her concerts.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yes they did.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Hey, Yeah, Like it's always been very disproportionate, and Taylor's
obviously just like become a megastar and Charlie's just waited
patiently for her time. So absolutely I understand that feeling
of insecurity. And we talk about envy vs. Jealousy, yes
a lot, Like I really do see it, and I
think it can be healthy to feel.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
That way and be honest about it as well.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yes, but I'm not saying that I think Taita did
help her out so much. Definitely that then kind of
making a dig that's a little low.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, And you of course feel ten times more betrayed
by the guy's friend group when you go through a breakup.
So like probably knowing that Charlie had ill feelings towards
her in the context of them both being with a
band member and probably seeing each other a lot, Yeah,
that would sting.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yes, So Tita clapped back.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
She went crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
She always has one song on every album. Last one
was Kim. This one's Charlie remembers thank you. Amy and
she like capitalized the kay I am in that. Yeah,
she always has like a scratch to itch each album.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
And I think this is why I have a bit
of a bone to pick with Taita, because I think
she's always known as like this amazing girl's girl, Like
she's like preaching, singing to the choir about girls, girl
and everything like this. And I'm also so ridiculed online
apparently I'm not a girl's girl, but I am. But
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she's like always like girl power, girl boss, girl power.
But she's constantly making songs digging at women. So it's like,
what are you preaching? Are you practicing what you're preaching?
But these songs that these fourteen like seven year olds
are singing and dissing are the women. But then you
I think she like she puts fucking gasoline on the
(26:28):
fire lights it and then goes what a me?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, and disine, I don't know who did that?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Selena? Was that you? Kendall? Was that you? No, Travis,
come come rescue me. It's like, Babe, you put gasoline
in it and you lit it up, and then you're
gonna go everyone go get your sick can cowgo boots on?
And let's go rodeo to it and pretend that I
just didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
And hand out friendship bracelet.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, and yes, you can absolutely let your feelings be
known in the song.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
But then in the same albums, which are mostly around
her exit, she can equally in those songs say you
were the best thing, you made me so happy, but this.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Really broke my heart La la Lah.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
But then with the women, she's actually like, naw, fuck you,
you rule my life. Yeah she did not say that,
of course, but the tone of these songs are so aggressive.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It's like keep a storyline. And I think that's why
it's like she can like this woman. I feel I
can get away with bloody murder like because then it's like,
goes on the thing. I'm like, I feel like Taylor
and Selena are like two yeah, and then it's like
Hailey is on the other side, and Hailey's always villainized,
which is why I sympathize with Haley. But you've never
seen Haley make it. Has she made a Dick's.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Made I would say no, but people probably want to
kill me for that.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I wouldn't say she's made overtly digs like others.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Have, Yeah, and maybe subliminal ones where I think, and
so funny that we're moving on to this because like
my top line, my top top point in our working
document is at Sam we literally first bonded over this
feud and it's still ef thing going.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It will go into beyond when they're in this grave. Yeah,
and Selena.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
What I was going to say is I think Selena's
fans are the problem. I think nine times out of
ten they've blown everything up. I think the reason we're
speaking about this now because I thought it was over,
but it's obviously not. Hailey was on a red carpet
she got asked a question about Road and Selena being
competitive with other celebrities. Ladida, her publicist, went to stop
(28:27):
the question, and Hailey just said, no, I don't feel
competitive with people I'm not inspired by. I never asked
to be compared to her, and I don't find that fair.
Minutes after it is like top news on the Internet,
and then that's.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
A good response. Though.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I liked it, but as soon as I read it,
I was like, I know where this is going to go.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yes, but I just think I'm like, we constantly just
pin women against women. Yeah, and we go so far
back in where we're ever meant to go with women
becoming accessful and putting their trademark on things, because it's
like everyone just fuels their life off beef. And that's
the problem of like I can even feel like we
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always speak about how Melbourne's such a small world where
it's like I hear rumors about myself and stuff like that,
and the only reason why it gets worse is because
other people are speaking about it, yeah, and I'm not.
And like imagine on a scale of like how famous
these people are in the whole world where it's like, yeah,
the fans for them would just make it worse.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And I think in like Australia, say something's going on,
say with you, Like, I think it would take like
three days worth of comments for it to build traction,
Whereas Hayley probably answered this question left the event and
they were already already likee hundred articles about it. But
Selena has responded and this has riled me up. I
thought it was fake when I first saw it. Just
(29:51):
posted a blank Instagram story and deleted it like two
hours after which she seems to do all the time.
Just leave the girl alone. She can say whatever she
ones doesn't affect my life whatsoever? Or does it's just
about relevance, not intelligence.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Be kind?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh really, all brands inspire me. There is room for everyone,
and hopefully we can all stop.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Wait what did Haley say again?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
She just said I don't get competitive with people slash
things I'm not inspired by, which I hope she didn't
mean that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
As a dig.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Like I actually think she's a really sweet human, which
might be my problem, but like, yeah, I do see
Waite Selena's fans probably gassed her up to be like,
oh share.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
This bitch said this.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
People need to take a leaf out of Kim Kardashian's
book drafted up in your notes and don't fucking post it.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, And like I don't want to be encouraging people
to do this, but I think Kim just like gas
lights and she's like no, I'm over that.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
No, no, no, and like yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
And I think that's like I've even said, like sometimes
I feel like I'm more open to criticism online and
like subject to it because people know I'm vulnerable. Yeah,
so it's like I'm going to push it where and
then they poke the bear and I'm like, fuck, that
really hurt. But like Kim poker Face, Yeah, nothing, you
don't know what effects, So you don't know what it
does because it's like she doesn't give it airtime.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
So it's like, oh, I have wondered about that, but like,
consider this pretty much her formal introduction to the world
was her porn video.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, surely after that.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You're like, yeah, she's like on bullet Bruce, you.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Can't fucking hurt me. No, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, nothing left for you to see. Yeah, you've seen
it and you know it all.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Like she just really does not take the bait, and
I like respect it so much of her.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I think what I struggle with Selena's responds, and I
struggle with her overall. I think she's a kindness warrior.
But there's always a sentence or two that leaves things
open to interpretation and gossip and it doesn't completely flatten
it or just kill it and nip it in the bar.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, it's like you literally could just like I'm married,
she's married. I'm fine, she's fine. Put it to sleep.
But they've never done that, never, And I pray for
the day because I'm over it. I think we all
are no, apparently not clearly not. I think the last
(32:18):
thing that we should end off on, seeing that we
are podcasting is the Alex Earl and Alex Cooper drama.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Another thing I'm very across see.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I'm not too across it. I obviously know that hot
Mess was once a thing of the Unwell Network, which
Alex Cooper founded, which has got like call her Daddy
extra Dirty, Melana Agi, Harry Josey's One, like all of
those things, and then suddenly hot Mess blit stop. I
(32:50):
think it was something to do with because Alex manages
Alex father's her manager, and I think there was something
to do with something like that without accents and stuff,
and I think there would have been so many millions
of views with Alex Earl. I think Alex Cooper low
key became a little bit threatened by Alex Earl. Yeah,
(33:11):
it was kind of like keep your friends close, but
your enemies closer type thing. It was kind of like
following my footsteps. But I think then Alex Earl's dad
would have been like, no, you're doing this.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And I think the difference is it's not like Alex
Cooper acquired alex L's podcast like it was when Alex
was at the Heights, like when she was just popping off.
She kind of designed this show for her. It was
going really well. I don't know what it was comparing
to on the charts with Call Her Daddy, but I
think strategically Hot Mess was never going to be bigger
(33:46):
than Call Her Daddy if she was under her network.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yes, one hundred, but I really really do not respect
what Alex Cooper has done post this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
No, I'm very disappointed, so.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Am I I think after the whole Sophia thing that
she went through with Sophia when they both obviously had
Called Her Daddy, I think everyone kind of was like,
could have just been a one off situation. But I
think the digs and the undertones that she's had when
she knows she's such an influential person, especially to young women,
and the stuff that she's made towards Alex Earl, your
careers are going on two different trajectories. I don't think
(34:20):
ever Alex Oh wanted to be the biggest podcaster. I
think she just wanted a way to connect with her
audience and it was never a competition for her. But
I think Alex made it. Alex Cooper made it a
competition with herself. Low key thinkink that alex was a
part of it, and I just think like, okay, how
much time like that TikTok? When Alex l responded being like,
how much time do you have? When they're speaking about it,
(34:41):
I don't think that's that bad.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Do you know the background of that though? No, So
remember alex Earl hate the Bothams. Yeah, so I should
have said that earlier. She posted a TikTok one day
and I don't think this is a correct app but
something to the extent of my astrologists or my co
stars said I can go crazy to that. Yes, and
the top comment was what happened between you and Alex Cooper?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
She responds, how much time do you have?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah? I remember watching the video. Yeah, but I didn't
think it was that bad.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Well, to add insult to injury, alex El's first Dancing
with the Stars dance was Circus.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
This is what I think is really really bad? Yeah,
because share it was Circus by Britney Spears. And then
Alex Cooper did this thing in Las Vegas for the
on One network and had all the things, and then
she also played Circus by Britney Spears and what was
the caption caption?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
How much time do you have? Because we could go
all night?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
There were a few things that I struggled with, Like
I think the fact she also got other huge influences
on that video.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, I think it's of us, and I don't think
it's like not that nice. No, And it's like Alex, oh,
he's on fucking Dancing with the Stars right now. Yeah,
Like again, it comes down to stop pinning women against women.
Why are we doing this? There's two so successful, such
successful women in business in the influencing industry, they're doing
(36:11):
great things for women. Why are you pinning each other
against each other?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
And on the internet so much? Like I'm a big
fan of both, Yes.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
But I've lost respect for Alex Cooper.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, and I think she was never exempt from the
Sophia stuff like that has always been a crack in
her story and something you look back on and you're like, what.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Is the truth there? Yes, are you as good as
we think you are?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Were you guilty in that situation? And then I think
this is whole things come up and it's undertones that
she's making it towards alex Earl, I'm like, this is
not helping you battle.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, when she's done episodes, you know, rallying on the
streets in support of not having abortion be legal. Yeah,
be illegal. I can't find my words today, like you
could be. And she does do so much more impactful
and important things. Is this going to be the all
your day on alex L? Who's hurting nobody? Sorry, you
mightn't like her because of whatever went on in the background.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
But that's business base.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You can both exist.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
And like as I was saying before before we started
this podcast and Bake came, is like the most rich
and successful people didn't get to the top by making
sure they had good relationships with everyone. Bill Gates, someone
fucking hates him out there, someone fucking hates him.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
So what Let it be Taylor Swift for example, Yes.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Let them leave, let them buy Mel Robbins and even
more Robin She's so successful, but someone fucking hates her
out there.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Her debt collector, I think she was in like eighteen million,
eight million dollars debt or something there you go on
that figure or something like that.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Like, I have so many fucking haters, shut out, use
a six one four six nine six one two like shout.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
The fuck out, you know, help you like this out?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah? I feel like that's enough drama for today's episode.
Thank you guys so much for tuning in. Let us
know what you think.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
This was fun. We need to do this more.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I think with this is a month and month once
a month catch up Pops culture. Because I lokely eat
this up and.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
I prep a lot for our episodes. I've had my
laptop close. This is like the best way to end
my week.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, nice little chat to end off the week. Perfect.
All right, guys, we'll see you next Tuesday on Hotter
Than Next Week. Goodbye,
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