July 14, 2025 • 33 mins
Welcome back to our most special episode of Hotter Than Yesterday so far where I'm joined by a literal dream guest of mine, Michael Theo. Michael was the break-out star of Love on the Spectrum and has won the hearts of the world ever since. Michael talks to me about growing up on the spectrum, and how a young boy who was once told he'd never speak is now acting on our TV screens and is a podcaster, voice-over artist, future children's book Author (and genuinely the biggest gentleman I've met).
Michael shares his insight on love, dating, his new relationship, how men should treat women and how to pick the perfect gift for your partner. I'll never forget this conversation and I'll be sure to invite Michael and his beautiful girlfriend back on to share their love story!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I guess what I've taken from Love on the Spectrum
is that it was a bit of an opportunity to
show the wall that people in the spectrum just want
to be loved and accepted like everybody else. Yeah, is
that so much?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi? Everyone, welcome back to Hotter than Yesterday with me. Today,
we have a really really exciting guest on the podcast.
It's actually been one of my dream guests to have on.
He is one of my favorite reality TV stars. We
have Michael Theo from Love on the Spectrum. If you
guys don't know much about Love and the Spectrum, it
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is a reality TV show on Netflix which focuses on
the romantic lives of young adults on the autism spectrum.
This has captured the hearts of so many Australians and
so many people worldwide. He has really become a global sensation.
He has amazing little quirks and personalities where the it's
his love for trains or movies. He has such an
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inspiring story. Doctors actually thought that he would never be
able to speak and he has defied all odds and
I was so excited to have him on the podcast today.
So I can't wait for you guys to listen and
welcome Michael Theo on too hotter than yesterday. Well, Michael,
thank you so much for joining me in today. How
are you How are you going?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm doing well? Thanks?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
You are so you caught the train up from where
your hometown is all the way to Sydney. Ye? How
was that?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
The train? Ship? Was all right? It's something too special
because I've done it numerous times for the past like
three years, and.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So some people might not know exactly who you are.
Could you explain who you are and what you want
people to know about you?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Sure? My name is Michael Theo. I was the breakout
star of Love on the Spectrum lead actor in Austin,
playing the title character.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm an autism consultant, aspect ambassador of Waybule, which is
a dating app for people on the Spectrum, a future
children's book author. You are yeah, yes, and a podcaster
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What made you want to go on Love on the
Spectrum more? How did Love and the Spectrum come about
for you?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'll explain. I used to be a client of an
employment agency called at Work Australia. They used to be
called ES Central Personnel back in Woollongong. This is like
six years ago, in twenty nineteen. I told my case
manager that I wanted to get out there meet new
people and all that make new friends. And then all
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the pictures was contacting various employment agencies, including at work,
and I well, they recommended me for it, and when
I heard about it, I called them back numerous times
because I was so eager to be part of it.
For only one reason. I didn't see it as a
chance to become famous. I saw it as a golden
opportunity to help me find a girlfriend, because that was
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what I want at the time. Even though I didn't
find a girlfriend back then, I actually have Do.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You have a girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Wow? Does the public know about your girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Not the whole world?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No? Right? How long have you been together.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
For We've been together for almost seven months?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Wow? And did you meet on the show?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
No? How did you meet her?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
She works as an admin assistant at a certain building
in Ultimo Right, very nice. I'm not going to name
the company because that's private information.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah. Did you take her on a first date? How
did you start dating?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I was at this place to do a full day
of publicity for Austin last year. Yeah, and I was
in the foyer of this building and I glanced to
the left and then spotted her walking by, and we
started talking. It's because I'd seen photos of her before,
because she reacted to every post and story I ever
placed on socials.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Ah, so she knew who you were before, and she
kind of was pioneering after you. Yes, and then you
saw her in real life and you were.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Like, yeah, I like her. And I asked her if
she was interested in having a date with me, and
she says she think it over.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh, she was playing a bit hard to get.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I actually like her. When women do that, Oh, you
do because it makes me It makes me want to
work for them.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yes. Wow, very gentlemanly of you. And where did you
take her on your first date?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Actually it was in a food court at Westfield Broadway
because she just finished work that day.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Oh, so it was very quick.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Even on the first date there was summer affection.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
WHOA, that's moving fast. Well did you kiss on the
first day.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, things were serious from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
And you've been together ever since.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Well, we start at our first date in July and
then had several more and then in October that's when
I asked her to be my girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay, so you moved a little slowly after that to
make it official, make sure she was the one for you.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And is it your first serious relationship yep.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
My first ever? Wow, because prior to her, I never
had a girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Right. Do your family like her?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yep? They seem to approve of her.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Where's the best date you've been on with her?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Hmm? There have been plenty of places that we've had
great dates. There would be the Tramway Museum in Loftus
and then also taking her to dinner at Centerpointe Tower
in Sydney. I actually did that. We actually had dinner
there to celebrate her fortieth birthday.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So thus she's older than.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Me, so she's a bit of a cougar.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I wouldn't say cougar.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, that's what you call people that date people that
are younger of them.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
That's typical. But the thing is, I actually have a
bit of a preference for older women. Why is because
what I'm about to say is my perception and not
based on facts. But this is what I believe to
be true, but there's no research behind it. Women who
are older are generally more intelligent, more mature, They're more
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sure of themselves, they know what they want. Their tastes
in men is more refined, and they don't care so
much about frivolous things, and they're more content to settle down.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, So would you say because I'm young that I'm
not very intelligent?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I wouldn't judge that quickly.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I'm just playing with you.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I'm just stating my own opinions, not facts.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I think just with life experience. As people get older,
they become more refined in who they are, maybe a
bit solid with who they are exactly. And that's probably
why you might like an older woman. Yes, because how
old are you? I'm thirty one, you're thirty one, So
she's nine years older than you.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, And thus it's because I have a stronger preference
for women compared to girls.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh, Michael said it. How it is like I like
men not boys. Yeah, but it's hard out here.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
What do you see on your girlfriend that you were
looking for? Why did she stand out to you?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That is actually a bit hard to answer.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
As we dated, I slowly began to see that she's
a very easy going person and she never finds anything
to come plain about.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's really good, that's really just fine.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yes, I know. And it's also like a breath of
fresh air.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah. I'm a bit of a complaint of myself.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, but don't you think it's a little
bit unnecessary to complain about things when there's not really
much to complain about.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, but sometimes just things get on your nerves, you know,
and you can't help her.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, Like I'm quite a picky person, even with food. Yes,
I'm very picky with food. Oh boy, Yeah, I don't
feel I feel like you'd get annoyed by me very quickly.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes, well I'm already taken.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh that's all right. I will respect your girlfriend, Michael,
you're a taken man. That's that's fine with me.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But I find it better. It's it's a lot better
and more meaningful to be a committed man than having
meaningless in a course with hundreds of young women.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Completely agree, because.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
That kind of life has no substance.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Exactly, Winny, More men like you, More people need to
have the morals and stuff that you do.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Maybe it's because I was raised to be a gentleman.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well, that's a testament to your parents then.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yes, of course, very good and also because I actually
would rather be more considerate of the feelings of the woman.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yes, well that's very good. So obviously you didn't find
love on Love on the Spectrum, but you found love
outside of the show. Since the show has been on air,
you've become a fan favorite. I definitely you are one
of my favorite people on the show. Did you expect
people to connect with you as much as you have
and like get the publicity that you kind of have
been receiving.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I didn't expect it at all, and neither did my family.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Right to do you get recognized or not a lot?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yep? It's very frequent yep.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But do you like it?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yep? I do. And when people ask me for selfies,
I always allow it because it puts smile on their
face and it makes their day exactly, and also because
not every celebrity is comfortable with that. Yes, And because
these people and mine and love your work so much,
the least you can do is just give them a
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moment of time.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Completely. I one hundred percent agree with you. What's something
that you've really really learned from the show that you
like to tell people or give out into the world. Like,
what's something that you've taken from being on the show?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I guess what I've taken from Love and the Spectrum
is that it was a bit of an opportunity to
show the world that people in the spectrum just want
to be loved and accepted like everybody else. Yeah, is
that so much?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
No. And do you think that from Love and the
Spectrum people have had a greater understanding of autism.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, it has contributed to it, but yeah, I haven't
really noticed if it's made the biggest difference in the world.
But whatever difference is made, I'll give credit to it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah. Do you feel still feel judged by other people
or do you ever feel have you ever felt judged
for being yourodiverse and struggling with autism in day to
day life?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
No, I have never felt judged.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And I don't feel judged day to day life.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
That's good. But you said before before we were recording
that sometimes that employment with people with autism has been really,
really tough, and you try to advocate for that. In
what way do people not really adjust in society with
people with autism?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's because some employers are afraid to employ people with autism,
and I don't even know why employers should give people
a chance for employment because they also want to have
a purpose to fulfill in life as well. Plus we
all need to make a living, don't we exactly?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And do you think that you've become a role model
since being on the show for.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
That, Yes, I would say that I have, and I
take that very seriously, which is why that when Austin
was in production, before we started filming the first season,
I made it very clear that I didn't want Austin
to be a stereotype of autism, because there have been
some autistic characters on screen that have been a stereotype
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ever in the past.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah. And do you think that that's a big thing
that likes a big misconception about autism.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yes, I would say that there still is, Yeah, like
not being able to show emotion or feel love.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, I feel like you guys almost feel it more.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
But also when I was in high school, I was
marginalized by some of my peers for my year.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't remember who exactly, but because this was like
over ten years ago, but it just kind of still
bothers me as well.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, So what was growing up and feeling like you're
a bit of an outcast in society. What was that
like for you? Was it really hard?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It was hard at times. Yeah, but I still had
friends regardless.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, It's just that the people that were in my
year at high school just didn't know how to interact
with people on the spectrum. It was the two thousands.
It wasn't socially or publicly accepted back then.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah. Have you always kind of known that you were
a little bit different from other people or yes? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
In primary school, I knew that I felt different from
the other kids, but I just didn't know why. Until
when I was thirteen. My mother told me that I
had asperges. I know that term is not used anymore,
but that's what I was diagnosed with. It's a mold
branch of autism. Autism is a spectrum, yes, like an umbrella.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
The reason why mum explained it to me at the
age of thirteen is because if I was if you
explained it to me when I was younger, I probably
wouldn't have understood what that meant.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, when your mom kind of explained that to you,
did it help you understand why you felt a little
bit different to other kids.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yes, it did help me understand, Yeah, why I was
different to others.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
If someone came up to you and said, I'd like, oh,
my son's just got diagnosed with autism, Like, how do
I make him feel accepted or feel loved? Because I
feel like sometimes people can then almost judge themselves or
judge other people for having that. How would you explain
that to them to make them feel confident in maybe
their diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
What I would probably say to their parents and the
person that was diagnosed, I would probably say to them,
all you need to do is just ask them what
you can do to accommodate them, and just encourage them,
love them and support them in the best way you can,
because that's what parents do.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And with your peers, just give the time, they'll come around.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah. And what are maybe some things that people can do?
As you said that, more workplaces need to be accommodating
to people with autism, and maybe people at schools need
to be like with their classmates, more accommodating. What could
other people do to be more accommodating for people with autism?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
The best things they could do to accommodate them is
install some kind of quiet room where there's no noise whatsoever. Yeah,
and also if they have sensory sensory issues to lights,
the lights should probably be as dim as possible, but
not too dark, and that always has to be at
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the lowest minimum. And those people who are on the
spectrum should never be judged for it, No, not at all.
They're capable of doing tasks for themselves and loving others.
They're just wired differently completely, but they still want to
be loved and accepted and valued like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Everyone deserves to be loved as well. How can we
be better friends or better people? And how do you
want to be treated?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
The best things that neurotypicals can do for their for
their neuro diverse friends is cut them some slack a little,
but also make time for them even when you are busy,
because not many people do these days. But also there's
an other piece of advice that people need to remember.
Hold on to your friends because friendship is a treasure
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and I consider my friends like a second family. But
probably the saddest thing about friendship is you never really
know if your friends value as much as you value them,
and if you find out that they don't, it's hurtful.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah. So would you say maybe like words of affirmation
and telling your friends that you really care and appreciate
for them makes them feel more welcome and accepted maybe.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yes, of course, yeah, that would be helpful.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, so we just need to share the love a
little more exactly. Do you know the love languages?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So we have five love languages?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yes, words of affirmation, acts of service, gift, giving all
your time, and physical touch?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Perfect? What are your love languages? What do you like
your girlfriend to do for you in.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Terms of giving or receiving both?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
We'll do giving first, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
In terms of me giving or five of them you do.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
What a gentleman as you should yep yep. And what
do you like receiving the most? Obviously we like all five?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Quality time and physical touch?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Wow? Okay, so in quality time? What's your favorite thing
to do together?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
We don't have a favorite thing to do together.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Just anything being in each other's company. Yes, yeah, because
you have some hobbies that you really really like. I
know that you love watching movies, you love trains yep,
and you love Germany well yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
My partner actually happens to love railways. And animation as
much as I do, perfect Match, And she even loves
Thomas the Tank Engine as much as I do.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
There you go. So do you guys bond over that
quite a lot?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yep, we do. Yeah, I have more in common with
her than I do with any other woman that I've met.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Perfect match. Then maybe she's your soul mate.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
That's a possibility, but I don't know that for certain
just yet.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Just yet, you have maybe a few more years.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And the at least three or four years to know
that for certain.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And is that when you might propose hmm, if.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
We come to that bridge, I would wow.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Will you Are you thinking of maybe moving in together?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Hmmm? That would be a possibility. Yeah, if things are
still going strongly after two or three years, okay.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And do you still live with your family?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yep? Still live at home?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That's all right. Sometimes being around your family is like good,
Or you want to live.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Alone, I'd actually rather have my own place.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Really well, maybe that's like your next step. Maybe that's
what you do this year. And have you ever since
being on the show, have you had a lot of
maybe celebrity interactions or people notice you that like your
thing is really cool?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Actually, I have who I Well, I have close friendships
with Ben Miller, Sally Phillips and Jeercard's they all start
with being on Austin.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Wow. And you're still friends with them now.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yes, and still and also great friends with some other
cast members like Ellie Mackay, who played my half sister Floren.
We actually have a bit of a sibling relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Wow. Do you see them often?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well, Ben, Sally and Ellie live in England. Well, Gia
is based in La most of the time. Yeah, And
there's also Kate Elliott, she's based in Bondi somewhere, and
then there's also Natalie Abbott.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm actually kind of preparing myself for the possibility that
there may be some celebrities that may not know who
I am and would see me as it's nobody from nowhere.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Nah, You're not a nobody from nowhere though.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
No, No, that's what I saw.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Michael Tho. You got a rocket, you got to own it.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I know. Yeah, but this stuff takes time. When you're
signing out in a career in acting and you're.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Very fresh, don't leave the start. Yeah, maybe you've got
to go to LA or something. All in good time,
All in good time. Do you have TikTok? No, no
to say we could maybe do like a TikTok dance.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
The only dancing I can do is boring down dancing.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh I can't do bom dancing.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Because if I tried doing that kind of dancing they
do at nightclubs, I make a fool out of myself.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Have you ever been to a nightclub?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yes? And I've always hated it. Why because people aren't
interested in socializing. The only interested in dancing and getting drunk.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But dancing is so much fun.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I would say that bor dancing is the most fun.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So, Michael, what do you think I do for a living?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I'm actually not entirely sure.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So I do podcasting, yes, I was told that, and
then I have TikTok, which I make videos on so
like short form videos like I don't film like long
days like you maybe do in love on the spectrum,
and then I do. I'm called an influencer, but I
would also say that you're called an influencer.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I hardly call myself that, But I.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Think you're very influential towards people maybe with autism, and
you inspire them, so you're influential.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But the influenced is not something I would do professionally, right,
because I'm big on acting, Yes, work of substance.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Also because influencing is more of a woman dominated field.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It definitely is, yes.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And that was actually one of the main reasons why
I decided to quit it. Right, and also because I
wouldn't be taken seriously as an actor.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Fair, because that's your end goal, is becoming an actor. Well,
because you're not an influencer and you're not very you're
not on TikTok and everything like that. I'm going to
ask you a few TikTok words or like trendy words,
and you're gonna have to guess what they mean. Sure,
like a little game. So what does no cap mean?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I have no idea what that means.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Have a guess. No cap means like no bullshit, Like
you're not lying.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I don't understand modern slang.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Right, what do you think red flag means? What's a
red flag a warning sign? Yep? So when say that's
a red flag in dating, what do you think.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
That means something to be careful of?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yep? Good? And what's a beige flag?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Beige flag is like okay, So when I'm like, I
don't like tomato sauce. Do you like tomato sauce? Sort
of yeah, And like the person that you're dating loves
tomato sauce. They're like, oh, that's a bit of a
beige flag because like she doesn't love tomato sauce as
much to me, what's doululu? Have? I guess do lulu?
(21:34):
I've never heard of that word delusional delusion. It's like
they're doolulu. What about slay queen or slay killer? Oh?
Kind of like when I'm like, Michael, you look slay.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
In that shirt today, I do not know what slay means.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Slay means like your the shirt looks great, so like
the shirt is slay.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
One of the main reasons why I don't I'm stand
modern slang is because I have a combination of conservative
and modern values, and also because I have a more
formal speech pattern.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You do. You do speak very well, and.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Also because I have a very straightforward type of mind.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Do you ever swear on occasion? Yeah, if I'm stressed
or frustrated.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
But yeah, you speak very well. You hold yourself very well.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I can't say I say the same. I'm a very
I have a very big potty mouth. I feel like
I'm I'm Michael's red flag.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I also, in fact, I'm actually a podcast host myself.
I was the host of the Mister a Plus podcast,
which has since ceased. I'm starting a new podcast called
Untypical with my friend Poppy Read.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And when does that go out?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
We don't know just yet because we're still recording a
bunch of episodes to release.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Right. So, yeah, where unless it's Love on the Spectrum
because you obviously, now that you've love, are you going
to go on Love and the Spectrum again?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I don't think so. Wow, it's because I find it
unnecessary and that chapter has closed for me. Yeah, Love
and the Spectrum is one of the most exciting chapters
of my life and one of the strongest pillars of
my life's life story. But some things have to come
to an end, because when one chapter closes, it's time
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for the next one to open.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
All good things come to an endacle.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, because for some strange reason, people seem to view
life as a race, but I see it as.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
More of a book, very good analogy.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
In fact, I can't even understand why people see life
as a race.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, exactly, because everyone just has so many goals and
everyone's like very competitive and world it's very easy to
compare yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yes, I understand that. Yeah, but is being competitive necessary?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
No, not at all, but some people find it necessary.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, Well, a testament to who you are, Michael. So,
but what's next for you? Where can obviously you might
not be You're not going in love on the Spectrum
anymore in that chapter's closed? What can people expect for
you in the future? And where can people find you
if they want to know more about your life from listening?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
People can find me on Instagram. Yep, mister underscore A
Underscore plus Underscore Michael, I'm all and I'm still the
ambassador of Wayble. That's that's never going to end.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I'm also writing a children's book, Very Cool, which is
about a nine year old boy on the spec on
the Spectrum. I can't give too much information because I've
got to save that for publicity.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yes, got to save that for an element of surprise, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
And we've only just found an illustrator for it, so
it's going to be a while until it gets it
gets published yep.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
And hopefully you'll be acting in more movies or maybe
a show.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yes, there's another television show that's in development of Northern Pictures.
I can't reveal it at the moment because yes, but
I've begin myself physically toned for it.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Wow, so you're on a health and fitness journey.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, sort of, But I'm not on some kind of
diet though.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah. Maybe just like what type of working out do you.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Like to do? Waits and cardio? Combination of both?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Very nice? Yes, Well, can't wait to see that transformation.
That could be cool.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
In fact, the first season of Austin is already on
ABC I view since last year. We finished filming for
season two a couple of months ago, but I have
no idea when that's.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Going to release, and maybe at the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I honestly don't know. Well, when I do publicity for it,
everyone will know, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm sure. So everyone will have to keep up on
your socials to know when that is coming out, that's right. Yeah.
What else do you do to prepare yourself for shows
or acting?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
In terms of I'm preparing for Austin, I don't really
have to do a lot of preparation because Austin is
a character based on me. So I just channel myself
in a way well very good. Also have comedy in
my bones as well.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Well yeah, so there's nothing. You just be yourself and
hope it works up for the best.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And with this other other role, I'm not really sure
how I'm going to go about preparing for it, but
I'll find some way to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You'll find your way.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, yeah, everyone does exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Well, thank you so much for coming on my podcast. Michael.
It was a pleasure, lovely to have you on today.
Is there anything else that you wanted to say, any
questions you wanted to ask?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, I would like to ask what can you tell
me about yourself as a person, what brings you joy
most in life? And what are your interesting passions?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well? I love clothes and fashion. I love dressing up
and getting doing my makeup and doing my hair. I
also really love health and fitness, like I love doing weights,
I love boxing. I love going to cafe and trying
nice restaurants with my friends. I met like a city girl.
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Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah? Yeah, a very modern type.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Of woman, very very modern type of woman. That's a
great way to explain.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
With Michael, and possibly kind of a bit of a enigma.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Enigma is another alternative word for mystery.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I'm a mystery, I suppose so in what way?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
It's just a vibe that I get about you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I'm a bit mysterious.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, it's kind of hard to explain.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh, well, is there any other questions that you would
like to know about me? Then to find out more
about me?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yes? Okay? Do you ever see yourself getting married in
the future?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I would love to get married.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
What do you want most out of a man.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
To know that he can protect me?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah? And I don't think providing for me is necessarily
Like I can provide for myself, but someone who can
create a partnership and raise like a family alongside me,
and we're like, we're two best friends. I want a
best friend and a partner.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Hmmmm.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Is that a good answer.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yes, they are great answers because because every woman should
be a working woman, yes, and thus self funded, because
men can't be the only providers anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Well, especially in the cost of living.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah that, but also in terms of protecting this woman,
that should be a no brainer for all men.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
It should be, But it's not why I know I'm
talking about it. You need to get you need to
get this into the boys's heads. Michael. What would you
tell maybe the boys out there to be how to
become a man? What would what advice would you give them?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I think the best advice I can give them is
you have to be considered of a woman's feelings because
they're valid.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
And also in terms of gift giving, yes, don't ask
her what she wants, spend a day window shopping with
her a few weeks beforehand. At least.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
He knows what's up, Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Also, if she ever wants to talk to you about
about something, yep, the worst thing you can say is
we'll talk about it later, because that's a man's way
of saying I don't want to talk about it ever.
And he expects us to never be brought up again.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Thank you. And what does it mean when a girl
says I'm fine?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
When a woman says that she's fine, I hear that
you're fine, But the question is why am I not
feeling it?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
When a woman says she's fine, Michael, she's lying. She's
not fine.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
That doesn't even sound accurate to me. Would and in fact,
whenever my partner says there's something on her mind, I
would say to myself, that's it. I'm calling her now,
we're talking about it now.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
That is a very good partner review, Michael.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Because if something's on her mind, it kind of bothers
me in a way.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, which is fair enough because you're a.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Partnership exactly, because that's what it's about, a partnership, not
about someone answering to another person. Another thing I was
also going to mention is if you really want a
woman to feel loved or valued, don't tell her, show her.
And the best way you can show her is hug
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and kiss her every day and tell her you love
her every day.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Thank you. It's the bare minimum, Michael.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And when you kiss a woman, do it with passion, Yes,
do it like you mean it, kiss it like there's
no tomorrow. Yes.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Well, when you hugged me, you hugged me very tired.
It was very it was a very nice, genuine hug.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yep. That's because I prefer to give bear hugs.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yes, so you did give a very big bear hug.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yep. Because when you when you hug when I prefer
when I hug a woman, I prefer to do it
like there's no tomorrow. Yes, because when you're kissed or
hugged by a woman, there's nothing more heartwarming than that.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Because the love of a woman should be sacred yep,
just like marriage should be marriage and the marriage, romance
and the love of a woman are heartwarming treasures and
they're sacred and should be regarded as such. And when
people don't value those things, it's an insult to me.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yes, well, we need more people like you. You need
to be a public speaker about how to treat women.
You like treasure women and it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I can give all this advice to every man in
the world all I want, but they have to they
have to be smarter than this and learn to do
what's best for their partners themselves, because it's not really
my place to tell them what they should and should
not do. That's true, because starting off with affection is
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a great way to start. Sometimes when when I kiss
my partner, I can't help myself by going overboard with it.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
In what way?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
We do it a lot? That's okay, and we're not afraid,
and we're not afraid.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
A bit of no, oh, you're loving wow.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Because because I'm because I'm proud to kiss a woman
in public, as you should be.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
You should be proud that you have a loving girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
In fact, she checks on me like every day, asking
me how's my day going, how's my night going? And
we always ask each other, always say good morning to
each other and how we slept. We do this daily.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, as you should. You should speak to your partner
every day. Yeah, and when you get to see each other,
you get to kiss each other. It's cute. Wow. Well,
thank you so much Michael for coming on the podcast.
I've loved having you on today, and I'm sure the
audience has as well. And maybe we'll see you soon.
Maybe we could have your girlfriend on and you can
speak about it.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yep, that would be great. I think I find I
think she'd love that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Oh well, maybe you can make that happen. Well, thank
you so much and I'll see you guys very soon
with another episode. Say bye bye bye for having me on, Sam,
thank you, look my pleasure
I guess what I've taken from Love on the Spectrum
is that it was a bit of an opportunity to
show the wall that people in the spectrum just want
to be loved and accepted like everybody else. Yeah, is
that so much?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi? Everyone, welcome back to Hotter than Yesterday with me. Today,
we have a really really exciting guest on the podcast.
It's actually been one of my dream guests to have on.
He is one of my favorite reality TV stars. We
have Michael Theo from Love on the Spectrum. If you
guys don't know much about Love and the Spectrum, it
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is a reality TV show on Netflix which focuses on
the romantic lives of young adults on the autism spectrum.
This has captured the hearts of so many Australians and
so many people worldwide. He has really become a global sensation.
He has amazing little quirks and personalities where the it's
his love for trains or movies. He has such an
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inspiring story. Doctors actually thought that he would never be
able to speak and he has defied all odds and
I was so excited to have him on the podcast today.
So I can't wait for you guys to listen and
welcome Michael Theo on too hotter than yesterday. Well, Michael,
thank you so much for joining me in today. How
are you How are you going?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm doing well? Thanks?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
You are so you caught the train up from where
your hometown is all the way to Sydney. Ye? How
was that?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
The train? Ship? Was all right? It's something too special
because I've done it numerous times for the past like
three years, and.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So some people might not know exactly who you are.
Could you explain who you are and what you want
people to know about you?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Sure? My name is Michael Theo. I was the breakout
star of Love on the Spectrum lead actor in Austin,
playing the title character.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm an autism consultant, aspect ambassador of Waybule, which is
a dating app for people on the Spectrum, a future
children's book author. You are yeah, yes, and a podcaster
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What made you want to go on Love on the
Spectrum more? How did Love and the Spectrum come about
for you?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'll explain. I used to be a client of an
employment agency called at Work Australia. They used to be
called ES Central Personnel back in Woollongong. This is like
six years ago, in twenty nineteen. I told my case
manager that I wanted to get out there meet new
people and all that make new friends. And then all
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the pictures was contacting various employment agencies, including at work,
and I well, they recommended me for it, and when
I heard about it, I called them back numerous times
because I was so eager to be part of it.
For only one reason. I didn't see it as a
chance to become famous. I saw it as a golden
opportunity to help me find a girlfriend, because that was
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what I want at the time. Even though I didn't
find a girlfriend back then, I actually have Do.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You have a girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Wow? Does the public know about your girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Not the whole world?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No? Right? How long have you been together.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
For We've been together for almost seven months?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Wow? And did you meet on the show?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
No? How did you meet her?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
She works as an admin assistant at a certain building
in Ultimo Right, very nice. I'm not going to name
the company because that's private information.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah. Did you take her on a first date? How
did you start dating?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I was at this place to do a full day
of publicity for Austin last year. Yeah, and I was
in the foyer of this building and I glanced to
the left and then spotted her walking by, and we
started talking. It's because I'd seen photos of her before,
because she reacted to every post and story I ever
placed on socials.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Ah, so she knew who you were before, and she
kind of was pioneering after you. Yes, and then you
saw her in real life and you were.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Like, yeah, I like her. And I asked her if
she was interested in having a date with me, and
she says she think it over.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh, she was playing a bit hard to get.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I actually like her. When women do that, Oh, you
do because it makes me It makes me want to
work for them.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yes. Wow, very gentlemanly of you. And where did you
take her on your first date?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Actually it was in a food court at Westfield Broadway
because she just finished work that day.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Oh, so it was very quick.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Even on the first date there was summer affection.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
WHOA, that's moving fast. Well did you kiss on the
first day.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, things were serious from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
And you've been together ever since.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Well, we start at our first date in July and
then had several more and then in October that's when
I asked her to be my girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay, so you moved a little slowly after that to
make it official, make sure she was the one for you.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And is it your first serious relationship yep.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
My first ever? Wow, because prior to her, I never
had a girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Right. Do your family like her?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yep? They seem to approve of her.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Where's the best date you've been on with her?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Hmm? There have been plenty of places that we've had
great dates. There would be the Tramway Museum in Loftus
and then also taking her to dinner at Centerpointe Tower
in Sydney. I actually did that. We actually had dinner
there to celebrate her fortieth birthday.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So thus she's older than.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Me, so she's a bit of a cougar.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I wouldn't say cougar.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, that's what you call people that date people that
are younger of them.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
That's typical. But the thing is, I actually have a
bit of a preference for older women. Why is because
what I'm about to say is my perception and not
based on facts. But this is what I believe to
be true, but there's no research behind it. Women who
are older are generally more intelligent, more mature, They're more
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sure of themselves, they know what they want. Their tastes
in men is more refined, and they don't care so
much about frivolous things, and they're more content to settle down.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, So would you say because I'm young that I'm
not very intelligent?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I wouldn't judge that quickly.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I'm just playing with you.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I'm just stating my own opinions, not facts.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I think just with life experience. As people get older,
they become more refined in who they are, maybe a
bit solid with who they are exactly. And that's probably
why you might like an older woman. Yes, because how
old are you? I'm thirty one, you're thirty one, So
she's nine years older than you.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, And thus it's because I have a stronger preference
for women compared to girls.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh, Michael said it. How it is like I like
men not boys. Yeah, but it's hard out here.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
What do you see on your girlfriend that you were
looking for? Why did she stand out to you?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That is actually a bit hard to answer.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
As we dated, I slowly began to see that she's
a very easy going person and she never finds anything
to come plain about.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's really good, that's really just fine.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yes, I know. And it's also like a breath of
fresh air.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah. I'm a bit of a complaint of myself.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, but don't you think it's a little
bit unnecessary to complain about things when there's not really
much to complain about.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, but sometimes just things get on your nerves, you know,
and you can't help her.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, Like I'm quite a picky person, even with food. Yes,
I'm very picky with food. Oh boy, Yeah, I don't
feel I feel like you'd get annoyed by me very quickly.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes, well I'm already taken.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh that's all right. I will respect your girlfriend, Michael,
you're a taken man. That's that's fine with me.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But I find it better. It's it's a lot better
and more meaningful to be a committed man than having
meaningless in a course with hundreds of young women.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Completely agree, because.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
That kind of life has no substance.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Exactly, Winny, More men like you, More people need to
have the morals and stuff that you do.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Maybe it's because I was raised to be a gentleman.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well, that's a testament to your parents then.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yes, of course, very good and also because I actually
would rather be more considerate of the feelings of the woman.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yes, well that's very good. So obviously you didn't find
love on Love on the Spectrum, but you found love
outside of the show. Since the show has been on air,
you've become a fan favorite. I definitely you are one
of my favorite people on the show. Did you expect
people to connect with you as much as you have
and like get the publicity that you kind of have
been receiving.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I didn't expect it at all, and neither did my family.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Right to do you get recognized or not a lot?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yep? It's very frequent yep.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But do you like it?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yep? I do. And when people ask me for selfies,
I always allow it because it puts smile on their
face and it makes their day exactly, and also because
not every celebrity is comfortable with that. Yes, And because
these people and mine and love your work so much,
the least you can do is just give them a
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moment of time.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Completely. I one hundred percent agree with you. What's something
that you've really really learned from the show that you
like to tell people or give out into the world. Like,
what's something that you've taken from being on the show?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I guess what I've taken from Love and the Spectrum
is that it was a bit of an opportunity to
show the world that people in the spectrum just want
to be loved and accepted like everybody else. Yeah, is
that so much?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
No. And do you think that from Love and the
Spectrum people have had a greater understanding of autism.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, it has contributed to it, but yeah, I haven't
really noticed if it's made the biggest difference in the world.
But whatever difference is made, I'll give credit to it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah. Do you feel still feel judged by other people
or do you ever feel have you ever felt judged
for being yourodiverse and struggling with autism in day to
day life?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
No, I have never felt judged.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And I don't feel judged day to day life.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
That's good. But you said before before we were recording
that sometimes that employment with people with autism has been really,
really tough, and you try to advocate for that. In
what way do people not really adjust in society with
people with autism?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's because some employers are afraid to employ people with autism,
and I don't even know why employers should give people
a chance for employment because they also want to have
a purpose to fulfill in life as well. Plus we
all need to make a living, don't we exactly?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And do you think that you've become a role model
since being on the show for.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
That, Yes, I would say that I have, and I
take that very seriously, which is why that when Austin
was in production, before we started filming the first season,
I made it very clear that I didn't want Austin
to be a stereotype of autism, because there have been
some autistic characters on screen that have been a stereotype
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ever in the past.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah. And do you think that that's a big thing
that likes a big misconception about autism.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yes, I would say that there still is, Yeah, like
not being able to show emotion or feel love.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, I feel like you guys almost feel it more.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
But also when I was in high school, I was
marginalized by some of my peers for my year.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't remember who exactly, but because this was like
over ten years ago, but it just kind of still
bothers me as well.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, So what was growing up and feeling like you're
a bit of an outcast in society. What was that
like for you? Was it really hard?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It was hard at times. Yeah, but I still had
friends regardless.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, It's just that the people that were in my
year at high school just didn't know how to interact
with people on the spectrum. It was the two thousands.
It wasn't socially or publicly accepted back then.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah. Have you always kind of known that you were
a little bit different from other people or yes? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
In primary school, I knew that I felt different from
the other kids, but I just didn't know why. Until
when I was thirteen. My mother told me that I
had asperges. I know that term is not used anymore,
but that's what I was diagnosed with. It's a mold
branch of autism. Autism is a spectrum, yes, like an umbrella.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
The reason why mum explained it to me at the
age of thirteen is because if I was if you
explained it to me when I was younger, I probably
wouldn't have understood what that meant.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, when your mom kind of explained that to you,
did it help you understand why you felt a little
bit different to other kids.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yes, it did help me understand, Yeah, why I was
different to others.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
If someone came up to you and said, I'd like, oh,
my son's just got diagnosed with autism, Like, how do
I make him feel accepted or feel loved? Because I
feel like sometimes people can then almost judge themselves or
judge other people for having that. How would you explain
that to them to make them feel confident in maybe
their diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
What I would probably say to their parents and the
person that was diagnosed, I would probably say to them,
all you need to do is just ask them what
you can do to accommodate them, and just encourage them,
love them and support them in the best way you can,
because that's what parents do.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And with your peers, just give the time, they'll come around.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah. And what are maybe some things that people can do?
As you said that, more workplaces need to be accommodating
to people with autism, and maybe people at schools need
to be like with their classmates, more accommodating. What could
other people do to be more accommodating for people with autism?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
The best things they could do to accommodate them is
install some kind of quiet room where there's no noise whatsoever. Yeah,
and also if they have sensory sensory issues to lights,
the lights should probably be as dim as possible, but
not too dark, and that always has to be at
(14:10):
the lowest minimum. And those people who are on the
spectrum should never be judged for it, No, not at all.
They're capable of doing tasks for themselves and loving others.
They're just wired differently completely, but they still want to
be loved and accepted and valued like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Everyone deserves to be loved as well. How can we
be better friends or better people? And how do you
want to be treated?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
The best things that neurotypicals can do for their for
their neuro diverse friends is cut them some slack a little,
but also make time for them even when you are busy,
because not many people do these days. But also there's
an other piece of advice that people need to remember.
Hold on to your friends because friendship is a treasure
(15:01):
and I consider my friends like a second family. But
probably the saddest thing about friendship is you never really
know if your friends value as much as you value them,
and if you find out that they don't, it's hurtful.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah. So would you say maybe like words of affirmation
and telling your friends that you really care and appreciate
for them makes them feel more welcome and accepted maybe.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yes, of course, yeah, that would be helpful.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, so we just need to share the love a
little more exactly. Do you know the love languages?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So we have five love languages?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yes, words of affirmation, acts of service, gift, giving all
your time, and physical touch?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Perfect? What are your love languages? What do you like
your girlfriend to do for you in.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Terms of giving or receiving both?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
We'll do giving first, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
In terms of me giving or five of them you do.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
What a gentleman as you should yep yep. And what
do you like receiving the most? Obviously we like all five?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Quality time and physical touch?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Wow? Okay, so in quality time? What's your favorite thing
to do together?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
We don't have a favorite thing to do together.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Just anything being in each other's company. Yes, yeah, because
you have some hobbies that you really really like. I
know that you love watching movies, you love trains yep,
and you love Germany well yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
My partner actually happens to love railways. And animation as
much as I do, perfect Match, And she even loves
Thomas the Tank Engine as much as I do.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
There you go. So do you guys bond over that
quite a lot?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yep, we do. Yeah, I have more in common with
her than I do with any other woman that I've met.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Perfect match. Then maybe she's your soul mate.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
That's a possibility, but I don't know that for certain
just yet.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Just yet, you have maybe a few more years.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And the at least three or four years to know
that for certain.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And is that when you might propose hmm, if.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
We come to that bridge, I would wow.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Will you Are you thinking of maybe moving in together?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Hmmm? That would be a possibility. Yeah, if things are
still going strongly after two or three years, okay.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And do you still live with your family?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yep? Still live at home?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That's all right. Sometimes being around your family is like good,
Or you want to live.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Alone, I'd actually rather have my own place.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Really well, maybe that's like your next step. Maybe that's
what you do this year. And have you ever since
being on the show, have you had a lot of
maybe celebrity interactions or people notice you that like your
thing is really cool?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Actually, I have who I Well, I have close friendships
with Ben Miller, Sally Phillips and Jeercard's they all start
with being on Austin.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Wow. And you're still friends with them now.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yes, and still and also great friends with some other
cast members like Ellie Mackay, who played my half sister Floren.
We actually have a bit of a sibling relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Wow. Do you see them often?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well, Ben, Sally and Ellie live in England. Well, Gia
is based in La most of the time. Yeah, And
there's also Kate Elliott, she's based in Bondi somewhere, and
then there's also Natalie Abbott.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm actually kind of preparing myself for the possibility that
there may be some celebrities that may not know who
I am and would see me as it's nobody from nowhere.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Nah, You're not a nobody from nowhere though.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
No, No, that's what I saw.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Michael Tho. You got a rocket, you got to own it.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I know. Yeah, but this stuff takes time. When you're
signing out in a career in acting and you're.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Very fresh, don't leave the start. Yeah, maybe you've got
to go to LA or something. All in good time,
All in good time. Do you have TikTok? No, no
to say we could maybe do like a TikTok dance.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
The only dancing I can do is boring down dancing.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh I can't do bom dancing.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Because if I tried doing that kind of dancing they
do at nightclubs, I make a fool out of myself.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Have you ever been to a nightclub?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yes? And I've always hated it. Why because people aren't
interested in socializing. The only interested in dancing and getting drunk.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But dancing is so much fun.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I would say that bor dancing is the most fun.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So, Michael, what do you think I do for a living?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I'm actually not entirely sure.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So I do podcasting, yes, I was told that, and
then I have TikTok, which I make videos on so
like short form videos like I don't film like long
days like you maybe do in love on the spectrum,
and then I do. I'm called an influencer, but I
would also say that you're called an influencer.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I hardly call myself that, But I.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Think you're very influential towards people maybe with autism, and
you inspire them, so you're influential.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But the influenced is not something I would do professionally, right,
because I'm big on acting, Yes, work of substance.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Also because influencing is more of a woman dominated field.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It definitely is, yes.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And that was actually one of the main reasons why
I decided to quit it. Right, and also because I
wouldn't be taken seriously as an actor.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Fair, because that's your end goal, is becoming an actor. Well,
because you're not an influencer and you're not very you're
not on TikTok and everything like that. I'm going to
ask you a few TikTok words or like trendy words,
and you're gonna have to guess what they mean. Sure,
like a little game. So what does no cap mean?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I have no idea what that means.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Have a guess. No cap means like no bullshit, Like
you're not lying.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I don't understand modern slang.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Right, what do you think red flag means? What's a
red flag a warning sign? Yep? So when say that's
a red flag in dating, what do you think.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
That means something to be careful of?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yep? Good? And what's a beige flag?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Beige flag is like okay, So when I'm like, I
don't like tomato sauce. Do you like tomato sauce? Sort
of yeah, And like the person that you're dating loves
tomato sauce. They're like, oh, that's a bit of a
beige flag because like she doesn't love tomato sauce as
much to me, what's doululu? Have? I guess do lulu?
(21:34):
I've never heard of that word delusional delusion. It's like
they're doolulu. What about slay queen or slay killer? Oh?
Kind of like when I'm like, Michael, you look slay.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
In that shirt today, I do not know what slay means.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Slay means like your the shirt looks great, so like
the shirt is slay.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
One of the main reasons why I don't I'm stand
modern slang is because I have a combination of conservative
and modern values, and also because I have a more
formal speech pattern.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You do. You do speak very well, and.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Also because I have a very straightforward type of mind.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Do you ever swear on occasion? Yeah, if I'm stressed
or frustrated.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
But yeah, you speak very well. You hold yourself very well.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I can't say I say the same. I'm a very
I have a very big potty mouth. I feel like
I'm I'm Michael's red flag.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I also, in fact, I'm actually a podcast host myself.
I was the host of the Mister a Plus podcast,
which has since ceased. I'm starting a new podcast called
Untypical with my friend Poppy Read.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And when does that go out?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
We don't know just yet because we're still recording a
bunch of episodes to release.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Right. So, yeah, where unless it's Love on the Spectrum
because you obviously, now that you've love, are you going
to go on Love and the Spectrum again?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I don't think so. Wow, it's because I find it
unnecessary and that chapter has closed for me. Yeah, Love
and the Spectrum is one of the most exciting chapters
of my life and one of the strongest pillars of
my life's life story. But some things have to come
to an end, because when one chapter closes, it's time
(23:24):
for the next one to open.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
All good things come to an endacle.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, because for some strange reason, people seem to view
life as a race, but I see it as.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
More of a book, very good analogy.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
In fact, I can't even understand why people see life
as a race.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, exactly, because everyone just has so many goals and
everyone's like very competitive and world it's very easy to
compare yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yes, I understand that. Yeah, but is being competitive necessary?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
No, not at all, but some people find it necessary.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, Well, a testament to who you are, Michael. So,
but what's next for you? Where can obviously you might
not be You're not going in love on the Spectrum
anymore in that chapter's closed? What can people expect for
you in the future? And where can people find you
if they want to know more about your life from listening?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
People can find me on Instagram. Yep, mister underscore A
Underscore plus Underscore Michael, I'm all and I'm still the
ambassador of Wayble. That's that's never going to end.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I'm also writing a children's book, Very Cool, which is
about a nine year old boy on the spec on
the Spectrum. I can't give too much information because I've
got to save that for publicity.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yes, got to save that for an element of surprise, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
And we've only just found an illustrator for it, so
it's going to be a while until it gets it
gets published yep.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
And hopefully you'll be acting in more movies or maybe
a show.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yes, there's another television show that's in development of Northern Pictures.
I can't reveal it at the moment because yes, but
I've begin myself physically toned for it.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Wow, so you're on a health and fitness journey.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, sort of, But I'm not on some kind of
diet though.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah. Maybe just like what type of working out do you.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Like to do? Waits and cardio? Combination of both?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Very nice? Yes, Well, can't wait to see that transformation.
That could be cool.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
In fact, the first season of Austin is already on
ABC I view since last year. We finished filming for
season two a couple of months ago, but I have
no idea when that's.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Going to release, and maybe at the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I honestly don't know. Well, when I do publicity for it,
everyone will know, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm sure. So everyone will have to keep up on
your socials to know when that is coming out, that's right. Yeah.
What else do you do to prepare yourself for shows
or acting?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
In terms of I'm preparing for Austin, I don't really
have to do a lot of preparation because Austin is
a character based on me. So I just channel myself
in a way well very good. Also have comedy in
my bones as well.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Well yeah, so there's nothing. You just be yourself and
hope it works up for the best.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And with this other other role, I'm not really sure
how I'm going to go about preparing for it, but
I'll find some way to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You'll find your way.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, yeah, everyone does exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Well, thank you so much for coming on my podcast. Michael.
It was a pleasure, lovely to have you on today.
Is there anything else that you wanted to say, any
questions you wanted to ask?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, I would like to ask what can you tell
me about yourself as a person, what brings you joy
most in life? And what are your interesting passions?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well? I love clothes and fashion. I love dressing up
and getting doing my makeup and doing my hair. I
also really love health and fitness, like I love doing weights,
I love boxing. I love going to cafe and trying
nice restaurants with my friends. I met like a city girl.
(27:00):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah? Yeah, a very modern type.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Of woman, very very modern type of woman. That's a
great way to explain.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
With Michael, and possibly kind of a bit of a enigma.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Enigma is another alternative word for mystery.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I'm a mystery, I suppose so in what way?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
It's just a vibe that I get about you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I'm a bit mysterious.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, it's kind of hard to explain.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh, well, is there any other questions that you would
like to know about me? Then to find out more
about me?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yes? Okay? Do you ever see yourself getting married in
the future?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I would love to get married.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
What do you want most out of a man.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
To know that he can protect me?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah? And I don't think providing for me is necessarily
Like I can provide for myself, but someone who can
create a partnership and raise like a family alongside me,
and we're like, we're two best friends. I want a
best friend and a partner.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Hmmmm.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Is that a good answer.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yes, they are great answers because because every woman should
be a working woman, yes, and thus self funded, because
men can't be the only providers anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Well, especially in the cost of living.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah that, but also in terms of protecting this woman,
that should be a no brainer for all men.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
It should be, But it's not why I know I'm
talking about it. You need to get you need to
get this into the boys's heads. Michael. What would you
tell maybe the boys out there to be how to
become a man? What would what advice would you give them?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I think the best advice I can give them is
you have to be considered of a woman's feelings because
they're valid.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
And also in terms of gift giving, yes, don't ask
her what she wants, spend a day window shopping with
her a few weeks beforehand. At least.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
He knows what's up, Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Also, if she ever wants to talk to you about
about something, yep, the worst thing you can say is
we'll talk about it later, because that's a man's way
of saying I don't want to talk about it ever.
And he expects us to never be brought up again.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Thank you. And what does it mean when a girl
says I'm fine?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
When a woman says that she's fine, I hear that
you're fine, But the question is why am I not
feeling it?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
When a woman says she's fine, Michael, she's lying. She's
not fine.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
That doesn't even sound accurate to me. Would and in fact,
whenever my partner says there's something on her mind, I
would say to myself, that's it. I'm calling her now,
we're talking about it now.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
That is a very good partner review, Michael.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Because if something's on her mind, it kind of bothers
me in a way.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, which is fair enough because you're a.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Partnership exactly, because that's what it's about, a partnership, not
about someone answering to another person. Another thing I was
also going to mention is if you really want a
woman to feel loved or valued, don't tell her, show her.
And the best way you can show her is hug
(30:14):
and kiss her every day and tell her you love
her every day.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Thank you. It's the bare minimum, Michael.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And when you kiss a woman, do it with passion, Yes,
do it like you mean it, kiss it like there's
no tomorrow. Yes.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Well, when you hugged me, you hugged me very tired.
It was very it was a very nice, genuine hug.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yep. That's because I prefer to give bear hugs.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yes, so you did give a very big bear hug.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yep. Because when you when you hug when I prefer
when I hug a woman, I prefer to do it
like there's no tomorrow. Yes, because when you're kissed or
hugged by a woman, there's nothing more heartwarming than that.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Because the love of a woman should be sacred yep,
just like marriage should be marriage and the marriage, romance
and the love of a woman are heartwarming treasures and
they're sacred and should be regarded as such. And when
people don't value those things, it's an insult to me.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yes, well, we need more people like you. You need
to be a public speaker about how to treat women.
You like treasure women and it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I can give all this advice to every man in
the world all I want, but they have to they
have to be smarter than this and learn to do
what's best for their partners themselves, because it's not really
my place to tell them what they should and should
not do. That's true, because starting off with affection is
(31:42):
a great way to start. Sometimes when when I kiss
my partner, I can't help myself by going overboard with it.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
In what way?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
We do it a lot? That's okay, and we're not afraid,
and we're not afraid.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
A bit of no, oh, you're loving wow.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Because because I'm because I'm proud to kiss a woman
in public, as you should be.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
You should be proud that you have a loving girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
In fact, she checks on me like every day, asking
me how's my day going, how's my night going? And
we always ask each other, always say good morning to
each other and how we slept. We do this daily.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, as you should. You should speak to your partner
every day. Yeah, and when you get to see each other,
you get to kiss each other. It's cute. Wow. Well,
thank you so much Michael for coming on the podcast.
I've loved having you on today, and I'm sure the
audience has as well. And maybe we'll see you soon.
Maybe we could have your girlfriend on and you can
speak about it.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yep, that would be great. I think I find I
think she'd love that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Oh well, maybe you can make that happen. Well, thank
you so much and I'll see you guys very soon
with another episode. Say bye bye bye for having me on, Sam,
thank you, look my pleasure
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