September 8, 2025 • 24 mins
Welcome back to Hotter Than Yesterday! This week, I'm catching up on my latest travels with you guys and more excitingly, working through some moral dilemma scenarios I've found and unpacking how I would navigate my way through them. This really got my thinking and think things like these are so good to even better understand yourself. Comment and DM your thoughts on my responses and how you'd navigate them too, can't wait to chat next week xxx
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi guys, Welcome back to Hot Than yesterday Tuesday's episode.
How are we all miss chatting to you?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I went to Italy. It was amazing. I think Italy
is my favorite place. I think it is.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's absolutely stunning. I had the best five days with
Maddie and Brie.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It was so relaxing.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It was just when I needed a few cocktails at
night the sun. Ashton Earl ended up being there at
the same place, which was like pretty cool. Didn't see her,
but we were in the same place. She was there
for a wedding, which was really really cool. The wedding
looked insane, but oh my gosh. We went to Sorrento
and it was just beautiful, like just beautiful. There's nowhere
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in Australia that is as beautiful and like as old
and think He's got so much history and culture and
just beauty like Australia can never But I do love Australia. Like,
don't get me wrong, I love Australia. I love Sorrento
in Australia. Yeah, I literally go there every summer. But yeah,
just the Amalfi Coast is beautiful. We did Positano for
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a day. Oh my God, the stairs, Like, don't bother
working out because you'll be working out on the StairMaster
in real life.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Like that. Shit's crazy, crazy, crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I actually logged it all on YouTube, so I'll be
editing and uploading that hopefully this week. Keep me accountable, girls.
But yeah, it was lovely. It was just what I needed.
It was no partying, which is again, is just what
I needed. As I'm coming off my anxiety medication. I'm
not really in the headspace to party. I've partied myself
out of this Europe somewhat, which is kind of good.
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Ready to lock in, and now I'm really ready to
get home and get into my routine. And just like that,
like my head just feels everywhere. I just feel like
I can't get anything done, and I'm at like this
weird like crossroad, not really knowing what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Because it's been really hard. This podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I launched it obviously when I came over here, and
I'm just like, don't know what you guys want to
hear from me, don't know what I need to update
you guys on, Like I just like can't figure it out,
and I just feel like it will be so much
easier and like, this podcast will be so much better
when I'm back in Australia.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
So I'm so sorry that the podcast has kind of
started on like this, but I.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Do want to keep it up. I do want to
make it better. I do want to do so much
more with this podcast. It's just been weird doing it
on the other side of the world, with like my
team all the way over in Australia and everything with that.
So I apologize, but it's gonna get way better. We've
got this, We're gonna get hotter, We're gonna get better.
You've got to start somewhere and yeah, but apart from that,
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there's literally not much to update you guys.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
In my life.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I've really been laying low, staying off my phone, just
like trying to be present and enjoy the moment. My
phone is stressing me out quite a lot, so I
just take content and then put it down. Really, I'm
not much of a scroller at the moment. But I
saw this TikTok and and I thought it would be
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really fun for today's episode of Moral Dilemma Questions. And
I'm going to read out the moral dilemma and I'm
going to answer it about how I would answer it.
And I want to preface that there's no right answer
for these. They're meant to be moral dilemmas, and they're
meant to be like really really hard. It's like a scenario,
and then you have to pick one right, And I
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will pick my scenario, and I'll give you my reasoning
and my justifications as to why I pick that. It
could be wrong, it could be morally wrong, and it
could also not morally align with you. And I would
like to hear your reasonings or justific justification as to
why you might pick my one or you might pick
the other one, or like what would you do in
that situation? But it just gets conversations starting. And obviously
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I read out your dilemmas, but like these are like
moral dilemmas, if that makes sense of like the world.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And like I'm not saying all my opinions are right,
Like opinions are like ourseholes. Everyone has one, you know.
So I just thought we were jump straight into it.
I searched up on the internet some of moral elements,
and I found this website and their first start off
saying morality is defined as the principles concerning the distinction
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between right or wrong, or good or bad behavior. What
makes these questions dilemmas is an individual's definition of right
or wrong, or good or bad. However, in a time
when many question our national moral character, pondering what to
do in various situations can be a positive exercise preparing
an individual for worst and best case scenario. In this article,
we look for some examples of moral dilemmas to help
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us define what a moral dilemma is. When we look
at some moral dilemma scenarios and end with an ethical
diloment question.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
One might actually encounter.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
A moral dilemma is a conflict in which a person
must choose between two or more actions, all of which
they have the ability to do. There are moral reasons
for each choice. No matter which choice you make, someone
will suffer and something bad will happen. In order to
help you understand exactly what it is meant by our
moral dilemma, we've provided some examples. Some are which more
are classic moral dilemma. So this website has provided us
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with a lot of examples, and we're going to read
through a few.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I feel like this is really good dinner party.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
It depends who you're with, obviously, but I feel like
this is a really good dinner party activity to either
get to know your friends more or even if you
like getting to know a guy and you like getting
on that deeper level understanding they're like seeing if your
moral dilemmas are on the same page. I feel like
this is a really good activity to get to know
people more or to get like deeply understand, like their
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moral implications. You know what I mean, Okay? Number one
the unfaithful friend. You go out for dinner with your
husband at a new restaurant you've not frequented before. It
is in a part of town you rarely visit. Upon arrival,
you are shocked to see one of your friend's spouse
is having dinner with a very young, attractive person. From
the way that they are behaving, it is obvious they
are more than friends. The couple finish their meal and
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leave without seeing you. They behave very affectionately on the
way out.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
One tell your friend, knowing probably they would have not
believed you and it may ruin your friendship. Number two
say nothing about seeing the couple, as it's none of
your business and they may have been in an open relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Now, this is so hard, and I.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Feel like all of us, like girls, like we always
talk about like if you saw one of your friend's
boyfriends cheating on you, would you tell your friend? And
it's so hard because I don't like getting involved in
other people's relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It's their relationship.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But if I see something, it's like you want to
tell them, and you like, you don't want to keep
a secret from your friend, but also you're not a
part of that relationship. You don't really know what's going on,
Like they could be having conflict, they could be again
in an open relationship, Like you don't really know what's
going on between that couple. Like it's so hard, and
I face this all the time, and I know my
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answer is not in the one or two. So I
probably would tell my friend because if something then comes
out later, and I know that I would be really
disappointed if my friends saw that of my partner. I
always put myself in that shoes of like what I
would like to know. I don't think I would be
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a good friend having that secret, and then I couldn't
go and be at a dinner party with them and
then being all loving and affectionate, knowing that I saw
him at dinner with another woman, Like, I just don't
think I could keep that from my friend, and if
my friends, I'm going to tell my friend that and
give her all the information and she can then decide
what she wants to do with that information. But I
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don't think I would be doing being a good friend
if I kept that from her, because I think you're
doing something bad then too, but I know it's not
in their situation.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
My way of going.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
About the situation was I would go to the husband,
the spouse who I saw him at dinner and just
be like, Hey, I want to let you know I
was at that restaurant and I saw you at dinner
with that woman. You need to tell my friend. You
need to tell Baddy, or I will. But I'm not
going to tell you when I'm going to tell Betty.
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It could be in two months, it could be in
two weeks, it could be in two hours. So I'm
going to leave it with you to tell her, and
if you don't tell her soon enough, it's going to
come from me and then you look like a fucking
dick head. That's how I'd go about it, So I'm
going to give him the opportunity because at the end
of the day, he's the one doing wrong. I'm not
going to out him. I'm going to give him an
opportunity to out himself. Let them handle the situation. Else
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I'll tell Betty myself, because you don't really want to
be getting involved in their relationship until you really need to.
So I'm going to provide mister cheaterah over here with
the opportunity to come clean, or I'll do it for him.
You know. Number two an office theft. You're in charge
of the petty cash at the office. However, a co
worker is responsible for making a weekly trip to the
bank to make the business opposit and obtain the petty
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cash for the following week. In a conversation with your
mutual supervisor, you're asked if the increase in the petty
cash was enough. However, you have not seen any additional money.
You realize your coworker has been pocketing the additional cash.
Do you want tell your supervisor you neither asked nor
received any additional petty cash, that you suspect your coworker
is pocketing the money.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
To tell your coworker you're suspicious.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And give them the chance to pay back or say
nothing and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I would say, if you know that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Your coworkers taking the cash, I would say, like it
could be the person there, because then you're at risk
of losing your job, and at the end of the day,
like you have to protect yourself more than anybody else,
Like you have to be selfish in that situation. And
if you're not cashing in, I'm not going to protect
someone who's stealing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I'd fucking I'd dub on them straight away. Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Number three midnight death. You've worked years to be successful
in your father's business. You felt obligated to take over,
as he's worked his whole life to build a business
left to him by his own father. However, the large
business in town have seriously cut into profits for several years,
and your family have just managed.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
To scrape by. Your father's health is declined and he's
been hospitalized. He's had a.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Substantial life insurance policy that expires by midnight. If he
dies before midnight, you'll inherit enough money to pursue a
career you've always dreamed of and provide adequately for your family.
Do you pinch the oxygen line making it possible for
your dad to die, or smother with him with a pillow,
Oh my god. Or tell your dad the problem and
let him suggest a solution and go by what he says.
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Do nothing, as you cannot imagine living with yourself if
you terminate your dad's life.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Either. Okay, I could not kill my father.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
No, because money, Yes, money to provide I don't think
money provides happiness, but I think it provides a level
of happiness because you then don't have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Living paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But I couldn't live with the fact that I killed
my father for money.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
No, hell, no, I would tell my dad.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Actually, I wouldn't even tell my dad because I wouldn't
even want to question that.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I would just do nothing and see my dad and
live out.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I couldn't do that because I know if I tell
my dad, he would tell me to smother him or
like pinch the oxygen line, because he'd be like, my
life is over, like I want you to. But no,
I couldn't. I couldn't live with myself. I don't feel
like anyone would. But then again, there's some really fucking
fucked up people in this world that have done that. Like,
there's literally people who have killed their mother, Like, isn't
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that crazy? Like that is murder, That is full murder.
You murdered someone for money. You killed your own father
for money? No, brother, ain't no way.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Okay, Next one, get rich.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Your friend offers you an opportunity to make a great
deal of money very quickly. He has arranged to set
up an offshore account for your profits. He will not
tell you exactly how he's making his money, but you
get the impression it's not exactly legal. He wants you
to invest five hundred dollars and promises you'll make enough
for your minimal investment and you'll never need to work again.
Do you give him five hundred dollars? Deciding if you
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don't know how he's making it, you're in the clear
demand you know the details before getting involved. Decide you
want no part in this deal, as you trust your
instinct and the offer is shady and you might be
in legal trouble. I hate dirty cash, dirty cash. I
want you by pulsa. I don't like dirty cash. I
don't like drug dealing, I don't like gambling. I don't
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like anything that you can gain money and lose money
really really quickly. I think it's so addicting. I have
addictive personality and I am nosy. I need to know
the background. I need to know every single story, and
I don't want to be involved in it. Like if
he then goes and lives a really really rich life,
you're living life on the edge that you will be
caught all the time, and I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm an anxious person. I don't want to know. Go
for you, go for gold.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
If you are getting dirty money and you can live
with dirty money and you know you're.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Doing it, it's a thrill thing.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It's like it's addicting, and it's it's a rush of
Endolph like go and run, like it is a form,
like it releases in dolphins in your body. When you're
doing that stuff and you're doing it on edge. I
just couldn't live like that. I would rather live comfortably
and make ends meet then knowing I can gain money
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super quickly, but I can lose it just like that, and.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'm avoiding people.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I'm doing it dirtily, and I like, I just hate
keeping secrets and I don't like doing things legally. Oh
good girl, telling a secret. Your friend tells you that
they committed a crime. They explain they're having trouble sleeping
at night and feel like you're the only one they
can trust with their confession. A few days later, you
read in the paper that someone's been arrested for your
friend's crime. Do you go to the police and tell
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them what you know to encourage your friend to confess
and warn them if they If he does not, you
will tell or three say nothing because you will not
betray your friend's confidence. Fuck. This could be controversial, but
I feel like if it doesn't affect my life directly,
i'd probably take it to the grave. I have so
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much fear about betraying my friends. Oh, but then somebody
else has been No, I think I owed loyalty to
my friend. I would say, like, I think it's also
really selfish that he told you. Like I would just
be like, I feel really guilty that you've told me.
And I know this, but like I don't really want
to get involved. Not my pony, not my show, you
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know what I mean? Like, I think I would just
like stay silent if I'm honest.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh, I don't know. That's really really hard.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It depends if it was murder and it was taking
somebody else's life, I couldn't take that to the grave
because if my friend committed murder, if my friend took
somebody else's life, I don't want to be friends with
that person, do you know what I mean? Like, I
don't really want to be friends with like a murderer,
So I'd be like, no, I'd dope you in. It
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really depends on the crime. I think it's super super
super like individual.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But I don't know, Sally, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Okay, the sarcastic friend. Your friend has a great sense
of humor. However, sometimes his jokes involve making fun of
others in inappropriate ways. He will point out physical flaws
or look for something odd or different about a person,
and it makes an uncuncommon. You feel uncomfortable when your
friends do something. Do you say something or just laugh
along with him? Say something? I really struggle with binding
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my tongue when someone says something that's overtly mean about
someone and then they're.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Nice to their face.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Like if you have beef with someone and then you're like,
you speak badly about them, and then you're nice to
someone's face.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I hate that.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I hate that because I think it's like also really bad,
Like when I it's like back to the cheating thing,
Like if I know someone's cheated on them, and then
I'm going to that situation and knowing that that girl
doesn't know that her boyfriends cheated on her, I feel
so guilty. I literally like can't live with myself. And
if I know that someone's avertally speaking bad about someone
and making unkind comments, I think it is in that
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right person's mind to not be friends with that person,
Like that person is speaking so horribly about you. No,
you shouldn't be their friend, you shouldn't be kind to them. No,
if someone is so overtly being so mean and unkind,
I would be like, why are you saying that?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I would just pull them up in the moment. I
wouldn't bottle it up.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Like if he was going around saying that this girl
is ugly, I'd be like, why are you saying that?
Because to me, I'm like, I'm not calling anyone ugly.
I'm not calling anyone ugly. I'm not trying to put
people down. I literally would just deflect and be like
I would literally go back. I'm like, just say you're
insecure and ugly, Like if his name was Tommy, I'd
be like, Tommy, just say you're ugly and insecure? Like
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why are you putting Betty down? Saying that they're ugly
all the time. It's deflection, like they're literally just out,
Like they just obviously have some rooted insecurities that they
are insecure about, and I don't want any part of that.
I'm gonna hold my friends accountable if they're saying something wrong, Okay,
hit and wrong. Late one night, you're driving home in
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a bad, bad rainstorm. A drunk reels out in front
of your car and you try to stop but hit him.
No one sees you. You check to see how badly
he's her, and you realize he's dead. Fuck, you've never
even had a speeding ticket, and you're an upright professional
with a family, and you're well known and respected in
your community. Do you make a report, anonymously confess the crime,
or drive home and forget about it. I couldn't live
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with myself if I did that. I couldn't live with myself.
I'd drive myself crazy. I'd call the cops saying, like,
because the drunk's reared in front of your car and
you try to stop but hit him.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
It's manslaughter.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You didn't mean to if you were sober and you
were driving home, it's manswaughter. It was a complete accident,
like that is just an unfortunate event, and if you
express sympathy, I don't feel like you should be charged
with that. Like that was a complete accident. I would
say something. I'd call the cops straight away, being like
I'm driving home in the rain, I couldn't see he
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was drunk. He swerved in front of my car and
I couldn't swerve away.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
And I hit him.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I don't think you should go to jail for that, though,
Like I don't think you should serve time. Then that
was a complete accident, and accidents happen all right. Next one,
your teenager has had a rough few years. First came
an arrest for shoplifting. The item was little value, so
it was only a misdemeanor. Then your team was with
some friends who were caught smoking pot and driving too fast. Ruh,
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I'm sending you to boarding school. Your teen has promised
they were turning over a new leave and seemed to
be on the right track, doing better in school, coming
home by curfew and generally having a much better attitude.
Now you get a call from the local police station
saying your son was with a group of kids who
broke into a liquor store and stole beer. Do you
go to the station and see how you can get
your teen out of this jam or let him accept
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whatever consequences before him. You do the crime, you do
the time, Babe. I don't care if you're my teenager.
You are doing mistakes, and I'm disappointed in you. You
need to learn from you your mistakes, and if I
try to get you out of that sticky situation, you're
going to continue to do it. You need to learn
from your consequences. Parents, you need to teach your kids.
I am so grateful because my parents always when I
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did something wrong as a teenager, they were like, you
did it, you stuffer the consequences of it. That is
your choice that you make and you got to learn
from that. I'm not helping you get out of this.
You're gonna do the time. And I'm so grateful because
I now don't think I'm gonna get out of anything unscathed.
But if I went to the police station and got
my child out of that, my child was there. He
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was stealing the alcohol, and he was He might not
have been stealing it, but he was there. He was
knowing that people we are stealing alcohol, and he was
a part of it by association. So if you my
son didn't want to be around people that saw the alcohol,
he would have left.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
But he was there.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So I'm not going to think that my child is
guilty and get him out of it and then him
thinking that's okay. No, your suffer the consequences, mate. Okay,
these are some ethical quick fire delements. What if you
suspect your neighbor of child abuse, you're not sure if
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they're having a kid throwing a fit, or if something's
really wrong, I would go to the neighbor first. Or
if I'm hearing this consistently, yeah, I would go to
the neighbor.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And no, I wouldn't. Actually, I think I would just
report it. I think there is enough.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
If I had enough evidence that I think child abuse
is going on, I think I would report it. I
also think I would go to the neighbor on the
other side and see what they're thinking, and maybe we file.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
The report together.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Because child abuse is really, really, really horrible. And if
I'm hearing a kid in such despair constantly, I'm gonna
report it because I think if you go to the
neighbor and go, hey, I'm suspecting this, then they're just
gonna keep it and it is child abuse. They're gonna
just like shut the kid up and keep abusing it.
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I would go to my neighbor other neighbor on the
other side and.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
File the report.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You're at a party out of town with your best friend,
They've had way too much to drink, and you will
not let them drive home.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
What do you do? I hide their keys.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I've done this so many times because drunk driving is
such a big thing at parties and so many people
do it and they.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Always justify that their self's okay.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Road accidents and one of the biggest death told things
in Australia contribute to the most deaths. Like I will
hide someone's keys and tell them the next morning before
I ever let them get in the car, because if
I let that person get into car knowing they had
way too much to drink and they've told me that
they're okay, I couldn't live with myself if something bad
happened to them. I would hide their keys. I don't
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give a fuck if you think I'm bitch. I don't
think if a fuck if you think I'm a can't
you yell at me that night? You'll thank me in
the morning because nothing bad happened to you and you
got home to your family safe. You really like your
neighbors and they think they're a great couple. The only
problem is that they throw wild parties occasionally. You think
they're into drugs, maybe even dealing.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Not my problem? I'm staying out of it. Now my problem.
If you're dealing drugs, you're dealing drugs. I don't want
anything to do with it. I don't want to know.
I don't want to know how you're doing. I don't
want to know how much money you're owning. I don't
want to know anything. Not my problem, not my horse,
not my show. Your friend is excitingly shared that she's
got a new love in her life. Unfortunately, you know
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the guy and he's a narcissistic player who only stays
with them and as long as he's getting what he
wants from the relationship. Do you try to convince her
to drop him or let her learn her lesson on
her own. Let her learn her lesson on her own,
because sometimes it takes the right person to make that
person change. I feel like everyone deserves a free round,
Like I just don't think you should sabotage your relationship
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that you're not a part of if he hasn't given
her any red signs. If he's given her red signs,
I'm obviously gonna warn her and be like, I've heard
this about John, but I'm not gonna self sabotage it's
not my relationship. I would let her know I've been like, oh,
I've heard some iffy things about John, but I don't
think it's fair for me to sabotage a relationship. I'd
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let her be aware, but I would either let her
learn her own lesson because he might not do that
to her. I think everyone I don't think you should
bring in your past trauma from a relationship into a
new person or a new relationship.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And I don't think you should use what.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Someone did in their last relationship against them unless they're
like a constant cheater. I'd probably let my friend know that,
but then again, he could learn from his lessons. I
think everyone can learn from lessons, so anyway they are
my answers to moral dilemmas. I want to know what
you guys think. I want to know what you want
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to hear from me as well. Please tell me episodes
you want to hear. I think I'm going to book
a studio next week and get a very special guest in,
so that will be really, really fun. And yeah, I
love you guys so much. I'm excited to get home
to Australia and really work hard for you guys, And
thank you so much for staying by me and supporting me.
And it doesn't go unseen, but yeah, thank you guys
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so much. And I'll see you guys next week. Bye,
Hi guys, Welcome back to Hot Than yesterday Tuesday's episode.
How are we all miss chatting to you?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I went to Italy. It was amazing. I think Italy
is my favorite place. I think it is.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's absolutely stunning. I had the best five days with
Maddie and Brie.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It was so relaxing.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It was just when I needed a few cocktails at
night the sun. Ashton Earl ended up being there at
the same place, which was like pretty cool. Didn't see her,
but we were in the same place. She was there
for a wedding, which was really really cool. The wedding
looked insane, but oh my gosh. We went to Sorrento
and it was just beautiful, like just beautiful. There's nowhere
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in Australia that is as beautiful and like as old
and think He's got so much history and culture and
just beauty like Australia can never But I do love Australia. Like,
don't get me wrong, I love Australia. I love Sorrento
in Australia. Yeah, I literally go there every summer. But yeah,
just the Amalfi Coast is beautiful. We did Positano for
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a day. Oh my God, the stairs, Like, don't bother
working out because you'll be working out on the StairMaster
in real life.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Like that. Shit's crazy, crazy, crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I actually logged it all on YouTube, so I'll be
editing and uploading that hopefully this week. Keep me accountable, girls.
But yeah, it was lovely. It was just what I needed.
It was no partying, which is again, is just what
I needed. As I'm coming off my anxiety medication. I'm
not really in the headspace to party. I've partied myself
out of this Europe somewhat, which is kind of good.
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Ready to lock in, and now I'm really ready to
get home and get into my routine. And just like that,
like my head just feels everywhere. I just feel like
I can't get anything done, and I'm at like this
weird like crossroad, not really knowing what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Because it's been really hard. This podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I launched it obviously when I came over here, and
I'm just like, don't know what you guys want to
hear from me, don't know what I need to update
you guys on, Like I just like can't figure it out,
and I just feel like it will be so much
easier and like, this podcast will be so much better
when I'm back in Australia.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
So I'm so sorry that the podcast has kind of
started on like this, but I.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Do want to keep it up. I do want to
make it better. I do want to do so much
more with this podcast. It's just been weird doing it
on the other side of the world, with like my
team all the way over in Australia and everything with that.
So I apologize, but it's gonna get way better. We've
got this, We're gonna get hotter, We're gonna get better.
You've got to start somewhere and yeah, but apart from that,
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there's literally not much to update you guys.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
In my life.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I've really been laying low, staying off my phone, just
like trying to be present and enjoy the moment. My
phone is stressing me out quite a lot, so I
just take content and then put it down. Really, I'm
not much of a scroller at the moment. But I
saw this TikTok and and I thought it would be
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really fun for today's episode of Moral Dilemma Questions. And
I'm going to read out the moral dilemma and I'm
going to answer it about how I would answer it.
And I want to preface that there's no right answer
for these. They're meant to be moral dilemmas, and they're
meant to be like really really hard. It's like a scenario,
and then you have to pick one right, And I
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will pick my scenario, and I'll give you my reasoning
and my justifications as to why I pick that. It
could be wrong, it could be morally wrong, and it
could also not morally align with you. And I would
like to hear your reasonings or justific justification as to
why you might pick my one or you might pick
the other one, or like what would you do in
that situation? But it just gets conversations starting. And obviously
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I read out your dilemmas, but like these are like
moral dilemmas, if that makes sense of like the world.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And like I'm not saying all my opinions are right,
Like opinions are like ourseholes. Everyone has one, you know.
So I just thought we were jump straight into it.
I searched up on the internet some of moral elements,
and I found this website and their first start off
saying morality is defined as the principles concerning the distinction
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between right or wrong, or good or bad behavior. What
makes these questions dilemmas is an individual's definition of right
or wrong, or good or bad. However, in a time
when many question our national moral character, pondering what to
do in various situations can be a positive exercise preparing
an individual for worst and best case scenario. In this article,
we look for some examples of moral dilemmas to help
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us define what a moral dilemma is. When we look
at some moral dilemma scenarios and end with an ethical
diloment question.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
One might actually encounter.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
A moral dilemma is a conflict in which a person
must choose between two or more actions, all of which
they have the ability to do. There are moral reasons
for each choice. No matter which choice you make, someone
will suffer and something bad will happen. In order to
help you understand exactly what it is meant by our
moral dilemma, we've provided some examples. Some are which more
are classic moral dilemma. So this website has provided us
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with a lot of examples, and we're going to read
through a few.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I feel like this is really good dinner party.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
It depends who you're with, obviously, but I feel like
this is a really good dinner party activity to either
get to know your friends more or even if you
like getting to know a guy and you like getting
on that deeper level understanding they're like seeing if your
moral dilemmas are on the same page. I feel like
this is a really good activity to get to know
people more or to get like deeply understand, like their
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moral implications. You know what I mean, Okay? Number one
the unfaithful friend. You go out for dinner with your
husband at a new restaurant you've not frequented before. It
is in a part of town you rarely visit. Upon arrival,
you are shocked to see one of your friend's spouse
is having dinner with a very young, attractive person. From
the way that they are behaving, it is obvious they
are more than friends. The couple finish their meal and
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leave without seeing you. They behave very affectionately on the
way out.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
One tell your friend, knowing probably they would have not
believed you and it may ruin your friendship. Number two
say nothing about seeing the couple, as it's none of
your business and they may have been in an open relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Now, this is so hard, and I.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Feel like all of us, like girls, like we always
talk about like if you saw one of your friend's
boyfriends cheating on you, would you tell your friend? And
it's so hard because I don't like getting involved in
other people's relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It's their relationship.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But if I see something, it's like you want to
tell them, and you like, you don't want to keep
a secret from your friend, but also you're not a
part of that relationship. You don't really know what's going on,
Like they could be having conflict, they could be again
in an open relationship, Like you don't really know what's
going on between that couple. Like it's so hard, and
I face this all the time, and I know my
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answer is not in the one or two. So I
probably would tell my friend because if something then comes
out later, and I know that I would be really
disappointed if my friends saw that of my partner. I
always put myself in that shoes of like what I
would like to know. I don't think I would be
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a good friend having that secret, and then I couldn't
go and be at a dinner party with them and
then being all loving and affectionate, knowing that I saw
him at dinner with another woman, Like, I just don't
think I could keep that from my friend, and if
my friends, I'm going to tell my friend that and
give her all the information and she can then decide
what she wants to do with that information. But I
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don't think I would be doing being a good friend
if I kept that from her, because I think you're
doing something bad then too, but I know it's not
in their situation.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
My way of going.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
About the situation was I would go to the husband,
the spouse who I saw him at dinner and just
be like, Hey, I want to let you know I
was at that restaurant and I saw you at dinner
with that woman. You need to tell my friend. You
need to tell Baddy, or I will. But I'm not
going to tell you when I'm going to tell Betty.
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It could be in two months, it could be in
two weeks, it could be in two hours. So I'm
going to leave it with you to tell her, and
if you don't tell her soon enough, it's going to
come from me and then you look like a fucking
dick head. That's how I'd go about it, So I'm
going to give him the opportunity because at the end
of the day, he's the one doing wrong. I'm not
going to out him. I'm going to give him an
opportunity to out himself. Let them handle the situation. Else
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I'll tell Betty myself, because you don't really want to
be getting involved in their relationship until you really need to.
So I'm going to provide mister cheaterah over here with
the opportunity to come clean, or I'll do it for him.
You know. Number two an office theft. You're in charge
of the petty cash at the office. However, a co
worker is responsible for making a weekly trip to the
bank to make the business opposit and obtain the petty
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cash for the following week. In a conversation with your
mutual supervisor, you're asked if the increase in the petty
cash was enough. However, you have not seen any additional money.
You realize your coworker has been pocketing the additional cash.
Do you want tell your supervisor you neither asked nor
received any additional petty cash, that you suspect your coworker
is pocketing the money.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
To tell your coworker you're suspicious.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And give them the chance to pay back or say
nothing and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I would say, if you know that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Your coworkers taking the cash, I would say, like it
could be the person there, because then you're at risk
of losing your job, and at the end of the day,
like you have to protect yourself more than anybody else,
Like you have to be selfish in that situation. And
if you're not cashing in, I'm not going to protect
someone who's stealing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I'd fucking I'd dub on them straight away. Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Number three midnight death. You've worked years to be successful
in your father's business. You felt obligated to take over,
as he's worked his whole life to build a business
left to him by his own father. However, the large
business in town have seriously cut into profits for several years,
and your family have just managed.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
To scrape by. Your father's health is declined and he's
been hospitalized. He's had a.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Substantial life insurance policy that expires by midnight. If he
dies before midnight, you'll inherit enough money to pursue a
career you've always dreamed of and provide adequately for your family.
Do you pinch the oxygen line making it possible for
your dad to die, or smother with him with a pillow,
Oh my god. Or tell your dad the problem and
let him suggest a solution and go by what he says.
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Do nothing, as you cannot imagine living with yourself if
you terminate your dad's life.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Either. Okay, I could not kill my father.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
No, because money, Yes, money to provide I don't think
money provides happiness, but I think it provides a level
of happiness because you then don't have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Living paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But I couldn't live with the fact that I killed
my father for money.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
No, hell, no, I would tell my dad.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Actually, I wouldn't even tell my dad because I wouldn't
even want to question that.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I would just do nothing and see my dad and
live out.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I couldn't do that because I know if I tell
my dad, he would tell me to smother him or
like pinch the oxygen line, because he'd be like, my
life is over, like I want you to. But no,
I couldn't. I couldn't live with myself. I don't feel
like anyone would. But then again, there's some really fucking
fucked up people in this world that have done that. Like,
there's literally people who have killed their mother, Like, isn't
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that crazy? Like that is murder, That is full murder.
You murdered someone for money. You killed your own father
for money? No, brother, ain't no way.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Okay, Next one, get rich.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Your friend offers you an opportunity to make a great
deal of money very quickly. He has arranged to set
up an offshore account for your profits. He will not
tell you exactly how he's making his money, but you
get the impression it's not exactly legal. He wants you
to invest five hundred dollars and promises you'll make enough
for your minimal investment and you'll never need to work again.
Do you give him five hundred dollars? Deciding if you
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don't know how he's making it, you're in the clear
demand you know the details before getting involved. Decide you
want no part in this deal, as you trust your
instinct and the offer is shady and you might be
in legal trouble. I hate dirty cash, dirty cash. I
want you by pulsa. I don't like dirty cash. I
don't like drug dealing, I don't like gambling. I don't
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like anything that you can gain money and lose money
really really quickly. I think it's so addicting. I have
addictive personality and I am nosy. I need to know
the background. I need to know every single story, and
I don't want to be involved in it. Like if
he then goes and lives a really really rich life,
you're living life on the edge that you will be
caught all the time, and I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm an anxious person. I don't want to know. Go
for you, go for gold.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
If you are getting dirty money and you can live
with dirty money and you know you're.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Doing it, it's a thrill thing.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It's like it's addicting, and it's it's a rush of
Endolph like go and run, like it is a form,
like it releases in dolphins in your body. When you're
doing that stuff and you're doing it on edge. I
just couldn't live like that. I would rather live comfortably
and make ends meet then knowing I can gain money
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super quickly, but I can lose it just like that, and.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'm avoiding people.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I'm doing it dirtily, and I like, I just hate
keeping secrets and I don't like doing things legally. Oh
good girl, telling a secret. Your friend tells you that
they committed a crime. They explain they're having trouble sleeping
at night and feel like you're the only one they
can trust with their confession. A few days later, you
read in the paper that someone's been arrested for your
friend's crime. Do you go to the police and tell
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them what you know to encourage your friend to confess
and warn them if they If he does not, you
will tell or three say nothing because you will not
betray your friend's confidence. Fuck. This could be controversial, but
I feel like if it doesn't affect my life directly,
i'd probably take it to the grave. I have so
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much fear about betraying my friends. Oh, but then somebody
else has been No, I think I owed loyalty to
my friend. I would say, like, I think it's also
really selfish that he told you. Like I would just
be like, I feel really guilty that you've told me.
And I know this, but like I don't really want
to get involved. Not my pony, not my show, you
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know what I mean? Like, I think I would just
like stay silent if I'm honest.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh, I don't know. That's really really hard.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It depends if it was murder and it was taking
somebody else's life, I couldn't take that to the grave
because if my friend committed murder, if my friend took
somebody else's life, I don't want to be friends with
that person, do you know what I mean? Like, I
don't really want to be friends with like a murderer,
So I'd be like, no, I'd dope you in. It
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really depends on the crime. I think it's super super
super like individual.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But I don't know, Sally, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Okay, the sarcastic friend. Your friend has a great sense
of humor. However, sometimes his jokes involve making fun of
others in inappropriate ways. He will point out physical flaws
or look for something odd or different about a person,
and it makes an uncuncommon. You feel uncomfortable when your
friends do something. Do you say something or just laugh
along with him? Say something? I really struggle with binding
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my tongue when someone says something that's overtly mean about
someone and then they're.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Nice to their face.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Like if you have beef with someone and then you're like,
you speak badly about them, and then you're nice to
someone's face.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I hate that.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I hate that because I think it's like also really bad,
Like when I it's like back to the cheating thing,
Like if I know someone's cheated on them, and then
I'm going to that situation and knowing that that girl
doesn't know that her boyfriends cheated on her, I feel
so guilty. I literally like can't live with myself. And
if I know that someone's avertally speaking bad about someone
and making unkind comments, I think it is in that
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right person's mind to not be friends with that person,
Like that person is speaking so horribly about you. No,
you shouldn't be their friend, you shouldn't be kind to them. No,
if someone is so overtly being so mean and unkind,
I would be like, why are you saying that?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I would just pull them up in the moment. I
wouldn't bottle it up.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Like if he was going around saying that this girl
is ugly, I'd be like, why are you saying that?
Because to me, I'm like, I'm not calling anyone ugly.
I'm not calling anyone ugly. I'm not trying to put
people down. I literally would just deflect and be like
I would literally go back. I'm like, just say you're
insecure and ugly, Like if his name was Tommy, I'd
be like, Tommy, just say you're ugly and insecure? Like
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why are you putting Betty down? Saying that they're ugly
all the time. It's deflection, like they're literally just out,
Like they just obviously have some rooted insecurities that they
are insecure about, and I don't want any part of that.
I'm gonna hold my friends accountable if they're saying something wrong, Okay,
hit and wrong. Late one night, you're driving home in
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a bad, bad rainstorm. A drunk reels out in front
of your car and you try to stop but hit him.
No one sees you. You check to see how badly
he's her, and you realize he's dead. Fuck, you've never
even had a speeding ticket, and you're an upright professional
with a family, and you're well known and respected in
your community. Do you make a report, anonymously confess the crime,
or drive home and forget about it. I couldn't live
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with myself if I did that. I couldn't live with myself.
I'd drive myself crazy. I'd call the cops saying, like,
because the drunk's reared in front of your car and
you try to stop but hit him.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
It's manslaughter.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You didn't mean to if you were sober and you
were driving home, it's manswaughter. It was a complete accident,
like that is just an unfortunate event, and if you
express sympathy, I don't feel like you should be charged
with that. Like that was a complete accident. I would
say something. I'd call the cops straight away, being like
I'm driving home in the rain, I couldn't see he
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was drunk. He swerved in front of my car and
I couldn't swerve away.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
And I hit him.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I don't think you should go to jail for that, though,
Like I don't think you should serve time. Then that
was a complete accident, and accidents happen all right. Next one,
your teenager has had a rough few years. First came
an arrest for shoplifting. The item was little value, so
it was only a misdemeanor. Then your team was with
some friends who were caught smoking pot and driving too fast. Ruh,
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I'm sending you to boarding school. Your teen has promised
they were turning over a new leave and seemed to
be on the right track, doing better in school, coming
home by curfew and generally having a much better attitude.
Now you get a call from the local police station
saying your son was with a group of kids who
broke into a liquor store and stole beer. Do you
go to the station and see how you can get
your teen out of this jam or let him accept
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whatever consequences before him. You do the crime, you do
the time, Babe. I don't care if you're my teenager.
You are doing mistakes, and I'm disappointed in you. You
need to learn from you your mistakes, and if I
try to get you out of that sticky situation, you're
going to continue to do it. You need to learn
from your consequences. Parents, you need to teach your kids.
I am so grateful because my parents always when I
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did something wrong as a teenager, they were like, you
did it, you stuffer the consequences of it. That is
your choice that you make and you got to learn
from that. I'm not helping you get out of this.
You're gonna do the time. And I'm so grateful because
I now don't think I'm gonna get out of anything unscathed.
But if I went to the police station and got
my child out of that, my child was there. He
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was stealing the alcohol, and he was He might not
have been stealing it, but he was there. He was
knowing that people we are stealing alcohol, and he was
a part of it by association. So if you my
son didn't want to be around people that saw the alcohol,
he would have left.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
But he was there.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So I'm not going to think that my child is
guilty and get him out of it and then him
thinking that's okay. No, your suffer the consequences, mate. Okay,
these are some ethical quick fire delements. What if you
suspect your neighbor of child abuse, you're not sure if
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they're having a kid throwing a fit, or if something's
really wrong, I would go to the neighbor first. Or
if I'm hearing this consistently, yeah, I would go to
the neighbor.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And no, I wouldn't. Actually, I think I would just
report it. I think there is enough.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
If I had enough evidence that I think child abuse
is going on, I think I would report it. I
also think I would go to the neighbor on the
other side and see what they're thinking, and maybe we file.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
The report together.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Because child abuse is really, really, really horrible. And if
I'm hearing a kid in such despair constantly, I'm gonna
report it because I think if you go to the
neighbor and go, hey, I'm suspecting this, then they're just
gonna keep it and it is child abuse. They're gonna
just like shut the kid up and keep abusing it.
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I would go to my neighbor other neighbor on the
other side and.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
File the report.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You're at a party out of town with your best friend,
They've had way too much to drink, and you will
not let them drive home.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
What do you do? I hide their keys.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I've done this so many times because drunk driving is
such a big thing at parties and so many people
do it and they.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Always justify that their self's okay.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Road accidents and one of the biggest death told things
in Australia contribute to the most deaths. Like I will
hide someone's keys and tell them the next morning before
I ever let them get in the car, because if
I let that person get into car knowing they had
way too much to drink and they've told me that
they're okay, I couldn't live with myself if something bad
happened to them. I would hide their keys. I don't
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give a fuck if you think I'm bitch. I don't
think if a fuck if you think I'm a can't
you yell at me that night? You'll thank me in
the morning because nothing bad happened to you and you
got home to your family safe. You really like your
neighbors and they think they're a great couple. The only
problem is that they throw wild parties occasionally. You think
they're into drugs, maybe even dealing.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Not my problem? I'm staying out of it. Now my problem.
If you're dealing drugs, you're dealing drugs. I don't want
anything to do with it. I don't want to know.
I don't want to know how you're doing. I don't
want to know how much money you're owning. I don't
want to know anything. Not my problem, not my horse,
not my show. Your friend is excitingly shared that she's
got a new love in her life. Unfortunately, you know
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the guy and he's a narcissistic player who only stays
with them and as long as he's getting what he
wants from the relationship. Do you try to convince her
to drop him or let her learn her lesson on
her own. Let her learn her lesson on her own,
because sometimes it takes the right person to make that
person change. I feel like everyone deserves a free round,
Like I just don't think you should sabotage your relationship
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that you're not a part of if he hasn't given
her any red signs. If he's given her red signs,
I'm obviously gonna warn her and be like, I've heard
this about John, but I'm not gonna self sabotage it's
not my relationship. I would let her know I've been like, oh,
I've heard some iffy things about John, but I don't
think it's fair for me to sabotage a relationship. I'd
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let her be aware, but I would either let her
learn her own lesson because he might not do that
to her. I think everyone I don't think you should
bring in your past trauma from a relationship into a
new person or a new relationship.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And I don't think you should use what.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Someone did in their last relationship against them unless they're
like a constant cheater. I'd probably let my friend know that,
but then again, he could learn from his lessons. I
think everyone can learn from lessons, so anyway they are
my answers to moral dilemmas. I want to know what
you guys think. I want to know what you want
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to hear from me as well. Please tell me episodes
you want to hear. I think I'm going to book
a studio next week and get a very special guest in,
so that will be really, really fun. And yeah, I
love you guys so much. I'm excited to get home
to Australia and really work hard for you guys, And
thank you so much for staying by me and supporting me.
And it doesn't go unseen, but yeah, thank you guys
(24:06):
so much. And I'll see you guys next week. Bye,
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