November 10, 2025 • 48 mins
Hey girls! This week’s episode is a little different and honestly, one of my favourites yet! I’m joined by Mimi Morrall, a somatic trauma healer, to chat all things healing, energy, and releasing what your body’s been holding onto. We dive into how trauma actually lives in your body, what somatic therapy and Kundalini activation really are, and how to start letting go of old patterns that are keeping you stuck. It’s a super honest convo about grief, growth, and becoming your most authentic self. I hope you learn a thing or two from this and please refer to the below links if you want to get in touch with Mimi xx
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi guys, Happy Tuesday. Welcome back to hotter than yesterday.
We have a really special guess.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Her name is Mimi.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Welcome, Thank you, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
So Mimi is actually a somatic trauma healer.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Is that how you say it?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, yeah, you can say that. Okay, I'm like facilitator all.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Of the Okay, but yeah, you're just like an angel.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Okay, I'm an angel. I mean that's like a pretty
like if.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
If you could compare it to something, what would you
like to compare it?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I would say like, I'm a facilitator for like, I'm
like a tuning fork, I guess because I don't think
also being a healer, like you're not really I'm not
like some magical being that is healing another person, like
I create the space so they can heal themselves. Oh
is it like culty Like I'm like this, Yeah, yeah,
you know, because I think that's where it gets.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
A little little juju, a little crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Yeah, so I'm like, yeah, I facilitate the healing, but
essentially like other people heal themselves.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh okay, yeah, maybe I'll get here today. So even
I don't really know what this all is, I find
it really really interesting. So can you explain what is
somatic trauma healing in simple terms?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
In simple terms, let's break it down.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Okay, So sematic essentially means like your body, So soma
relates to your body. So sematics it relates completely to
everything within your body.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It's a really trending term right now.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
So people can kind of get a little confused, Like
you might see sematics it might be like people jumping
on a trampoline or just like movement, and like might
have things store within like your hips or right you know,
So anything sematic is to do with the body.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
But when we relate it to.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Trauma healing, it's essentially your trauma is store within like
your cells and your muscles and your tissue and your
fashi up within your body. And so when you've experienced
a lot of trauma or even a small amount of trauma,
it essentially gets like stuck in these energies in your cells,
and then it gets stagnant, like especially low vibrational energy
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like grief or anxiety, stress, all these things. It creates
tension and energy blockages, and so that's where you may
feel like tense, tight shoulders or like in any part
of your body could be like digestive issues, anything like
health related. A lot of the time it's related back
to an emotional blockage.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Or a trauma from that time.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
And so when we work with somatic trauma healing and
essentially creates like an energy field, what I work with
is like an energy healing modality, which is I use
the energy of kundalini, and so that energy is within
like every single person, every single being, and we do
Kundlini activations, and so essentially what that is is like
kundolini is seen as a serpent that it coils at
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the base of your spine. That's like the energetic symbolism
of what it is, especially in like ancient references in
ancient texts. So when you're in an activation, the Kundalini
can be activated, not always awakened, because the kunderline active
awakening is a different thing, but it's activated, and then
the energy.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Moves through your body. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
And so then because I'm creating such a high energy field,
then your body like low vibrational energy is like stress
and trauma respond to the high frequency and then essentially
get like massaged out. It's almost like an energy exercise.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And so what can happen through that is.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
That you can release trauma, but it can happen through
something called careers, which could be like physical movements or manifestations.
So sometimes online you'll see videos of people like shaking
and crying.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yes, they're called careers.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And there's the energy the trauma.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Is moving like it looks intense, but it's actually like
really primal and really normal and like more related to backs.
If you see like animals in the wild, they'll just
like shake off trauma that happens to them. So, like
to be honest, when the first time it happened to me,
it was like what is going on?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Like I was really confused?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, can you control it? Or not?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Really not really interesting, which is a little interesting sign.
You know, it's pretty crazy. So you're like there and
you can you're conscious of it because you can feel
it happening. Yes, But the facilitator or like myself, will
work through different accive pressure points and your different energy channels.
So you have like a chakra system that works there's
like seven yeah, but starts the base of your spine
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and then goes to like your crown and so more
like survival base emotions live within your like base chakra system,
so your root chakra and then your solar plexus and
all of that all the way up. And so when
you first do a lot of the work, it can
situate itself in the survival energy centers.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yes, which is where a lot of like grief, like.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Endometerosis, all these different like emotions get stored right, And
the more you do the work, it like moves up
your body es central.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So it's not like a one time thing.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You need to do it over.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, Like you can't do it once and you might
have like a revelation Like the first time I did
it was like crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
But everyone's so different.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes, because I go and the type of therapy I
kind of do is kinesiology, and I feel like it's
kind of.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
The same thing as what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's like she always like measures, taps my bones and
stuff like that, and like if she'll say something like
maybe an affirmation and she'll be like say I'm beautiful,
and I'll be like I'm beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Because you're lying.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I was like, oh, okay, yeah I am lying, but
like she was like, you're lying because like your body
fully rejected it. And I love that yeah, yeah, and
she always says that I hold stuff at the bottom
of my spine, and she's like, because I always have
back pain and because you're always holding it in.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Your spine whereabouts at the bottom of my spine.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Okay, Yeah, that's very like.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Root survival like and like like and like hips as well.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So yeah, yeah, have you seen the tiktoks.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I'm not sure if you're on TikTok And it's like
you hold trauma in your spine and yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Well yeah, I mean you do hold a lot of
trauma in your hands. But yeah, it's similar to kinesiology,
okay in a sense, like I've had kinesiology before and
like crazyinesiology, but it's a little different, like I can't
I'm not really like listening to your body and like
you're completely rejecting it all intuitively feel what someone else
is feeling, or I'll be intuitively pulled to certain parts
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of their body.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So like a lot of the time.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Your like solar plexus is like the gate of opening,
so that is where like a lot of you can
put a lot of fire into there, and so that's
like our first initial place that we go to, so
that will like open that particular gate and the particular
active pressure points, like say just above your collar bone
is where grief is stored, and so might I might
feel in myself like a pool to go there, or
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like a my shoulders will go forward and I'll feel
like I want to go towards that part. So it's
really interesting that like mirrors because your energy fields are
like mirroring the person that you're working with.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Wow, that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's really cool.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So how did you first get into this space? So
I feel like it's quite a niche. Yeah, so not
many people know about it. How did you first like
discover it? And what made you kind of want to
tap into this?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I mean I have my own podcast and so originally
the way that I found this work was I had
my friend now my name back Jack. She came onto
my podcast because essentially in twenty twenty, my mom passed
away and that was when that was like the beginning
of my spiritual awakening. That was like when my whole
life kind of just changed in front of me and
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I was like, what is going on?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Like it was just it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
So I was just trying to adjust with how to
actually like deal with life, not even with the grief, Like, yeah,
that was intense, but more just like awakening spiritually is
so intense because you have all these signs and different
things coming at you and you're just trying to figure
out why it's happening. And so I got really into
meditation and really into hypnosis because it was the only
way that I found I could like access deeper parts
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of like my soul and connect with my intuition and
also like connect with like my love, my loved one
and Mum in spirit.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Anyway, so then.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I decided to start a podcast talking about the dysfunctional
families and my upbringing and grief all of the above. Anyway,
I had my friend Rebecca on, and she had started
doing this work because of her brother had unfortunately like
committed suicide, and this was really helpful to her for
her to understand how trauma is stored within the body,
and because his was to do with back pain and
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using antibiotics, and so for me, I met her when
she came on the podcast and she was telling her
story and then I.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Was like just obsessed with it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I was like, this is so interesting, like I've never
heard of anything like this before. And then just a
weird synchronistic moment. Like a year later, I moved to
Bali with my friends, like randomly, of course, I just
it was like COVID and I was like, I'm over
this like lockdowns, like we're moving to Bali anyway, And
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so I moved to Bali and she was actually building
a retreat center there, but we hadn't actually met in person,
so she was building this a treet center in all
the wah too anyway, So we kept on running into
each other and she.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Was like, yeah, you need to come to a session.
I was like, yeah, like I need to go.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And then eventually I just one day was like, Okay,
I'm going to one of these sessions, and I booked
one for like the next week. And I swear like
up until that point, like in the days leading up
to it, like my energy just started to shift.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Like I had a headache.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Like right here in my third eye between my eyebrows
for like two days beforehand, and I was like, what
is going on?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Like this is so crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And at that time of your life, obviously with your
mum passing and everything like that, do you think that
you're pushing a lot of the grief like aside and
distracting yourself and like you're kind of coming to like
a close where you're like I can't keep on going
like this anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Like I mean I definitely have a tendency not as
much now, but I would like just dissociate, yeah, and
like can't just be like everything's fine, Yeah, I'm all good, Yeah,
Like I don't need to deal with this. And I
got a lot of back pain, like especially behind like
my center back, like behind my heart, which is where
like a lot of grief is stored. Like it was
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just like I kept on getting massaged just when I
was in Melbourne because I was like, why is this
back pain like so intense?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And then even the day before I moved to Bali,
I've never had a panic attack before, and I had
like I was moving on stuff out of my house
and I had just like a full on panic attack,
like lying on my ground of my bedroom just being
like what is going on? So it just shows like
even if you think that you're fine. And I was
somewhat dealing with it through like meditating and all of
this stuff, but I wasn't fully dealing with like the
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root cause and my body was showing me that through
like the physical manifestations of it, and so I did
go to Bali, being like I need to be in
nature and heal.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
But it definitely was a bit like running away a
little bit for sure.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
But it worked out because I found when like look
in hindsight, it made sense because if I didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Go, then I wouldn't have had that experience. Then I
wouldn't be where I am now.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
So anyway, I went into this session and I just
as soon as I lied back down on the mat,
like my whole head started shaking like crazily and I
saw sounds like so cliche, but I saw I was.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like, I believe me when I say this, I know
a sec.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I saw like this, like white light come into like
my third eye, and I saw like my grandpa that
I'd never met before.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It was really random. It came into my vision and
he was like just there. I don't even know what
he was saying, but he was just there.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And then I had a lot of throat stagnancy, so
I like had the urge to scream, which can happen
which can take a lot of people a lot of
time to do it. I apparently just didn't care, and
I was just screaming straight away anyway, so in.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Like fuck, no one knows whoere the fuck I am.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
For real, I was like, I actually don't care.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
So I'm in this room with like thirty people and
I was just like screaming and it was like crazy, but.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
It felt really good.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Like I didn't really know what was going on or
why I was but it felt like really therapeutic, and
like afterwards I felt so much more relaxed. But I
was so tired afterwards, Like I just sleeped like two
days and couldn't.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Probably so emotionally drained.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, and your body just moves so much energy, especially
at the first time you do it, if it's that intense.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
So yeah, that was like my intro into it. But
then I did like maybe five more sessions over the
course of like four months, and I just like got obsessed.
Like I loved it so much. It just made me
feel so much better. Like even like music started sounding different,
Like it's kind of intense when you're in it a
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little bit, but then when you're out of it, like
you released these low vibrational energies and then you just
feel amazing. Yeah, Like I just had these like synchronistic
things happening all the time, and I just felt like
my actual authentic self came to the surface and like
things just started changing.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So wow, it was really interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And then I decided to stop drinking from doing that,
which was like on Year's Eve that year, So then
I didn't drink for like two and a half years. Wow,
and everything, yeah, just sort of shifted around me.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And then I was.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Doing actually I was working for her, like doing a
social media and she was like, you should train in
it because you're like really sensitive to the energy. So
I didn't really like go after it, like I'd never
picture myself as someone doing this at all.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Like I kind of just came to you.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, like I really didn't think i'd be doing something
like this, but I'm so grateful.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That I did.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
But yeah, I was like okay, So I did it,
and then worked with her while she was building the
retreat center. And then last year I went and did
the physical part of the training, which is like like
four days where you're like in the intensive container of doing,
like you do so many activations and in those four
days and then you work on other people and you
get initiated into the energy.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Right, but that and what does that look like? How
do you know that? Could anyone do it? Or do
you kind of have well yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Not like do you know how they say.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Like sidekicks like you need to have do you kind
of need to have an eye for it?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Or well?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I think it's the embodiment. So I mean that I
like jumped straight through that. But like it was like
two years in between me going and doing the like
physical training, so there was all also like the online part,
which is learning about like the neuroscience and epigenetics and
understanding how trauma actually lives within.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Your bodies, like the theory aspect of it.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, and then you also have to do the session.
So I just was doing them like back to back,
like I was overseas. I was like in Europe and
America and you can do them online and I was
just doing them online like all the time, and I
just was like obsessed. And then to do the training,
I think you have to do ten sessions, but I
would have done like two hundred because I was literally
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just like, yeah, I feel so good from this, and
I was getting like downloads and ideas and so yeah,
I'd like done as many sessions as I needed to,
and then when you're in the initiation.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
It's really crazy. Like I was like, how's this going
to work?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Like yeah, I suddenly just qualified and doing it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I know.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I was really I was really confused. I was like,
how how is this just going to work?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And it just does?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, because I'm so confused by it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Like I'm I wouldn't say I'm a spiritual person, like
I'm quite logical, but I love this type of stuff,
Like I love hearing about it, and I find it
really interesting about like how people came overcame stuff like that,
because I'm like all for therapy and stuff like that.
But I I'm like, yeah, you need to go to therapy,
but when it comes to me, I'm like it doesn't
work real. So then I'm like I always tried it.
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I'm like I need to be more open minded to
stuff like this because I really struggled to speak about
my feeling and like everyone's like, oh, well, how does
it make you feel when you went through as a child,
Like we speak about it, and I'm like, there's no
words that actually come out, but I know I store
a lot of shit in my body.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, Like I'm always in pain.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I'm always like really uptight and stuff like that, and
like I have the worst gut issues, like I know
I need to let it out, but then when I
go to speak about it, no words come.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
No, that's normal, But how do you find what's that
like in therapy? Like do you find that you can
talk about your stuff? No?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Therapy?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Right, nothing nothing comes out right. I'm like, I'm fine,
Like what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
And then I will then leave the therapy session and
I'm like, you're not fine.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, sorry, That's why I go.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
To kidney theology because she just like can then I'm
just like get in my brain, read my brain, and
then regurgitate it to me because I don't even know how.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
To alliterate how I'm feeling. But it's not good feelings.
Yeah yeah, no, God, that sounds so depressing. I'm fine,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Completely?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I relate to that so much.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Like I couldn't talk about anything, yeah, like till till
my mom died. Like I didn't speak about anything, Like
I literally was like anything to do with my life,
in my situation anything. I was like, yeah, that's not real,
that's not going on. I'm fine and what it is
is because your throat a lot of the time is closed,
like the energy within your throat is like imploded. So yeah,
you don't feel safe to speak about those things. Yeah,
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and so I couldn't talk about it until I did somatics,
and I was actually ate, like properly talk about it
because I could move the energy and the energy would
just release, and so naturally I was more able to
just speak about the things because it wasn't holding onto
all of that stored energy, like yeah, it's real, like.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's crazy, because I just make jokes out of it.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
No, the same. That's how that's.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Probably almost like my screen for help. I'll be like, yeah,
fucked up or like something like that, or I'll make a.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Joke about like my past and everything like that, and.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Then everyone in the room's kind.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Of like, oh, yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Laughed, and it's like no, no, please laugh.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
No.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Definitely, I'm the same, understand And I think I had
to get more used to it being something that doesn't
have to be like you can still like laugh about it.
I think like I I make dead mum jokes all
the time because it's hilarious, Like it's it's hilarious but
it's like when something is so traumatic, like sometimes the
only thing you can do is like laugh, like it's
just really intense. And I don't think also there's that's
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like something that wrong with that, Yeah, you know, because
I think it's if you're not dealing with your trauma,
like that's something else. But if you can have like
resolution about it and laugh about it in the same sense,
like I don't think. I think also humans really healing, yeah,
like really healing in when it's done in like a
positive way and you've done the healing alongside of it,
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Like it's where you can have like the joy come
from the trauma.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I find.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, So when you have then started getting into all
of this and now you have a practice where you
practice on people, is that right? How what does that
look like? And how do people kind of get in
touch with you? And then what how is what's the
steps YEA in trying to like open what is.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Called your.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
CDINI, but it's you're also just also think of it
as like your primal life force energy, So it's essentially
your energy at like one hundred percent. OK, So it's
not like anything outside of you. It's just like a
symbol for your energy. So it's like if you could
just turn the dial up on everything that's authentic to
you before, all the trauma that happened to you before
you were born, all of these things.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Your like soul's essence.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
It's essentially just like awakening and turning the volume on
that up. But how does it work? So it's done
either in groups or one on one, and you can
do it online or in person. People are always like,
how do you do it online? Like that's insane, but
you can. But in person group sessions it looks like
almost like a yoga class. So it's like you come,
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there's like an intentional talk through about like I talk
about what we actually do in the session and what
you might experience, and like I set like a very
like sacred container, so it's like very safe. We do
some breath work to start the session, but that's essentially
just to get you like out of your mind and
into your body. Because breath work is breath works like
the step before this, so that obviously breath works really
popular right now, but this is almost like the next step.
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So the breathwork like activates your like calming and regulating hormones,
and then it relieves like any stress or quarters all
that you like live within your stomach, so it's a
particular like conscious connected breath.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And then from that you essentially lie back.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Down and like you don't really have to do anything
because I create the vortext within the room because I'm
like a tuning fork, which essentially is like I have
a particular frequency, and then that brings the other frequencies
into harmony. And so your body has a particular frequency
and then mine because of like the embodiment of the
work that I've done with the qundolini, it then like
matches it and raises up to that particular frequency.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
That's essentially why I don't have to do anything.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
So you lie back down and you receive the energy,
which is feels a little strange because you don't literally
have to say anything or do anything. But there's music
going the whole time, and the music guides you as well,
because it's like can be kind of intense or like
tribal or like linked like visualization, so it goes in
like a crescendo, so it'll get more intense and then
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it will like slow back down, and so a really
good way when you're doing it is you just like
allow the music to take you, because you might like
see particular things and it might be like, oh you
might it might also particular like movement within your body
depending on the music that you're listening to. But the
biggest challenge for people is like surrendering and like allowing
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just the energy to come in because it is so
different to how we see ourselves and like in society.
So yeah, it can be really strange to accept that
that's something that's going to happen and allow and like,
it doesn't work as well if you don't surrender, like
it's because there's going to be resistance and then you're
going to create that resistance and you're going to feel resistance.
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So a lot of the time people like will have
certain emotions come up, and it could be like anger
or stress or trauma, or say an emotion like frustration,
which is really interesting because like you'll be sitting in
the session, you might feel really frustrated and you might
be like, oh fuck, there's like why I'm in stupid session?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Like what am I doing? It's not work, it's not working?
Why is she here? Like she's so stupid? Like this
is so dumb.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
But really like you're feeling frustration, so the frustration can
leave your body, you know, like you.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Have to start it up, honestly, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I mean, it's amazing, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
D Cup, I am coming. I'm like, should we do
it hotter than yesterday trial session?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
But then I'm like, they're going to these girls to
fucking know when I'm started yelling at them, film like it's.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
A safe space.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But yeah, So you receive the energy, you'll feel certain
emotions come up. Your body may move, it may not move.
The moving does not equate to it being better or worse,
like it doesn't equal anything. It just is there or
it's not there, Like it really doesn't matter. You still
feel the energy and receive the energy at one hundred
percent regardless, Like some people leave and they're just like
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lying flat there. But then also in the days after
they may have emotions come up because the energy is
still in your body for like a week afterwards and
make me like seventy two hours, especially like in the
first few times that you do it, and so you're
lie back, you may have visualizations. You may get cold
or hot. That happens a lot as well. Like for me,
I used to have like coriasis. I mean, I still
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get it like a tiny bit, but I got it
when it was like really stressful traumatic time at home.
And essentially crisis is like an autoimmune disease that is
like it's like heat within your body that your body's
like fighting something that it like feels like there's anger
and trauma sitting within your body. And so I would
like sweat so much because it was like clearing so
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much of this anger and then just naturally throughout it,
I just had like all of the crisis just heal
and like go away, so which I didn't even realize
until like, I don't know, I just realized one day.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I was like, oh, it's gone. I just don't have
crisis is gone.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
And then so do people do after the sessions and everything.
Do you because you're relief seeing trauma and you're releasing
this energy, is it negative energy?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Would you say?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Like I would, I mean I wouldn't say it wouldn't
be like it's like bad energy. I would just say
that it's like more lower vibrational energy, right, it's like
not serving you anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Right, So then would you say that the kind of
like clears your mind to then think more positively and
be more optimistic and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, exactly, because you're like.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Subconsciously healing trauma and stuff that your body is holding onto.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, it creates more space so that that like your
energy naturally raises and you're frequency naturally raises, so you
just naturally feel much better and more clarity and honestly
just more like yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
And then then does that like then make your mind
more be more like more open to speaking about things
or do you just like forget the trauma.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
No, you definitely become more open to speaking about it. Right,
It's like obviously everyone's different. Like from my own experience,
I felt more open to speaking about things, and it
also just had a lot more clarity about why certain
things happen. Like I do hypnosis as well, and like
meditation as well, because I find that really helps like
connect with certain past versions of myself and like.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Or you can hypnotize yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Well, I do like self hypnosis, which is like I
do like guided hypnosis sessions, which is actually like, yeah,
there's this really.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Good thing called called to be magnetic.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I know, I like talking about myself, but like I
literally tell everyone to do this because it is like
I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, So it's manifestation. It's based in manifestation when.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
It's like in neural reprogramming and like hypnosis to help
you like manifest the life that you want. So it's
not just like visualized like vision board. Yeah, it's based
in la they're like literally the best, and so you
do like guided hypnosis sessions like within yourself, like at home,
and then they'll give you like journal prompts so like
because when you're like in a hypnotic state, that's when
your subconscious comes forth and then you can journal from
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that place. So through that, I've had like a lot
of memories come up that were like suppressed or where
I'd like really didn't know why I had a belief
and why that belief had formed and where with like
the root cause of that belief. And when you know
where the memory has come from, when you can like
reprogram it and create like a new neural pathway, which
is really interesting because then you change the memory associated
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with the belief. So say if you have a memory
of someone being like you're unlovable or something, and so
you might not consciously know where that sits, but if
you go back, this can happen also like in somatics.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Like it can come up.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
You go back, and you go back towards like the memory,
and it will take you to like that place. A
lot of the time it's when you're like zero to
seven years old, because that's when you're like subconscious is formed,
and so in that time it can be after but
in that time there'll be a memory, and you'll visualize
the memory and go back, and then you can have
like a magnetic parent or someone like come and heal,
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or your higher self come in and like heal and
like change the memory for that like in a child
and that younger version of self.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Right.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And then because when you're rewiring neural pathways, it's like
you can only override a neural pathway, like you can't
change a belief. You have to like override it with
something different. So that's why like there'll be you may
hear things being like I am lovable, So then you
have to do an affirmation within that, which you can
use like EMDR, which is a type of like somatic processing.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, which like a lot of time does like my
mom did em D.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It's like rewiring like your original thought and like it
helps people with PTSD and stuff like that that you like, yeah,
rewires like what you actually experience kind of.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, And so like the more you do it,
then you change the new a pathway to like it's
almost like a train going down like a train track.
You're like, oh, I could go down this I'm unlovable
train track, and it's just been going on there because
it's like the easiest.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Route like route to go on.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
But then when you're like, hey, there's actually this like
new train line that's like really new and built and
like way better, super loving and moder great.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
The vibes are way better.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
It's really pretty and like it's such a vibe like
maybe let's just like divert here and it's like, Okay,
I'm not five years old anymore, and that like memory
where my mom like didn't give me attention. I felt
like unlovable, Like does that really.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Serve me anymore?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Like at the age that I've at, is that who
I am anymore? Like No, I'm I'm an adult and
I can take care of myself and like I can
love myself. So then it's like, no, I am lovable
and so then you shift it and then it just
naturally takes that route, which is like really amazing, So I.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Can sign me up. Lastly, how often do you do this?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I mean I try to it every day, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
So you kind of like self hypnotize every day.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, but it's almost just like a meditation, right, and
you can do a different one. So they have like
Unblocked in a love, Unblocked in a Child, and there's
like it's like workshops for like three weeks.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's really the way in La.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Well they're based in LA, but then they have it's
all online, so it's called like the Pathway and then
you do it on there, but it's.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
The pathway, guys, write it down, keep it.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
That podcast also is really good and I would do
that alongside my own like somatic practice because I also
think like everyone has a particular like modality.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
It means like a like a type of healing. Yeah,
you know, and they could be like energy healing would
be a type modality, like hypnosis would be a type
of modality.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
It's like a mode of healing. Yeah, that they like
feel called to.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And I really believe that people should go intuitively to
what they feel called to. Like I wouldn't say to
someone like just come to me, because like I want
like business and like how I thrive, Like that's not
serving you. Like if intuitively there's someone else that you
feel more called to, then like go to them, because
like your energy and your soul like knows who you're
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supposed to learn from and who you're spellsed to heal from.
So I think like using discernment is like the best
tool in terms of connecting with the intuition and knowing
what's right, Like you know what's right and what feels right,
so you know, it might be kinesiology, it might be hypnosis,
it might be like a combination, but it's just like
using your intuition to be like does this feel right
within my body and is it like one hundred percent yes.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But I also think it's like keeping an open mind to.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It all, Like like I always say, with like people
with like that struggled with addiction, Like I know I've
had a past with like people with my family who
struggled with addiction and all of those things where I
was like, you can't put them in rehab unless they
want to go to rehab, yes, And it's like with
the thing, it's like, Okay, you could go to a
somatic healing session, but it's like unless you actually want
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to go there and have an open mind to do that.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Stuff, don't fucking go. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, unless you're actually.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Wanting to get better and get to heal the things
that you have in your body and in your mind,
don't fucking go unless you have like you're going to
like surrender to it.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
And I think that.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
That's why for so long, like I haven't gone to
like get help or like get to the root cause
of things like that, because I'm like, right now, I
feel like at a point of my life, it was
like a couple months ago, like it was serving me
in a way that I needed protecting, so like my
trauma was. But now I'm like, Okay, now I'm becoming
more open minded to it. So if I went like
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six months ago, I'd be wasting money because I knew
that those like weird and probably not healthy coping mechanisms
were serving a purpose for me at that point of time.
Of course, so now I'm like, Okay, they're no longer
serving me. I'm outgrowing there but I keep on going
back to them because it's all I know. And it's like, yeah,
you're not making any good shit for yourself, Like you're
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just like shooting yourself in the foot. So now I'm like, Okay,
I need to be more open to it.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Do you feel like now you're at a point where
you're like you want to like heal it like fully?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, yeah, because I'm like, ok, I'm twenty three, and
I know that's still super young, but I'm like I'm
holding onto stuff that happened to me when I was twelve. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
And it's like, if you want.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
To move forward in your life and I continue to
do these things that you think that you're like made
for and that you're grateful for, you can't keep on
doing the shit that like, yeah, you've attached yourself to
when you're twelve. It's like, when you're going to separate
that stuff, when you're going to break those bad habits? Yeah,
And I never And I think that's why I've haven't
really given in a lot to it, because I haven't
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ever been ready for it. Because I saw this thing
once and it said that your coping mechanisms and everything
you're formed from where and you're like, as you said,
went from your one to from age zero to seven,
a lot of the traumatic stuff that happened to you,
your body, your brain was too young to process the
actual stuff, so then you start processing it later in life.
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And that's when people have like commitment issues and trust
issues and stuff like that because something happened to them
a super super young.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Age, but it's way too traumatic for the brain to process.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
So then that's why, like so many people when people
say like their twenties are like some of the hardest
years of their life, is because like all the stuff
is coming up from.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
When you were a young kid. So now I'm like,
is this like what happened to me when I was younger?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Yeah, And sometimes like you don't know, Like I was
really scared that I was going to have like suppressed
really crazy memories come up, and I was kind of terrified.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I was. And I think that that's wird because I
know that. I'm like, maybe it's a fear.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, no, I get that that's normal. I thought that
was going to happen.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
It didn't happen, Like it can't happen to people, but
I think it only happens when your nervous system is
ready for it to happen as well. Yes, and that's
the same thing for anything within a session, Like your
body's not going to shake and cry and scream if
your nervous system doesn't feel ready to do that. So
and I think trusting when the things come up and
when you feel like you are ready, Like it does
get to a point where you're like, this is actually
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making my life so much harder, Like I'm it's coming
up in relationships or like I'm repeating the same patterns
but a lot of the time, like you're not aware
of it. Yeah, and then you look back and you're like,
what was I doing? Like why was I doing that?
While was I attracting that certain type of person? Why
was I like overgiving or like settling for less than
I deserve? Yes, you're like base subconscious belief feels that's
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what you deserve.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
So it's only when you have separation from it that
you can be like, okay, now it's time.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
See, like I'm like, it's going to make me sound
so fucked up.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I'm a really big avoidant, Like like you know your
attachment styles, I'm an avoidant attachment style. I'm very good
to detach from people really easy, and I don't date,
and I don't like put myself out there because I'm like,
I'm just going to avoid you. I was on FaceTime
with my friend the other day and I was like,
everyone annoys me, but I know it's coming from a
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place of love. But I'm like when people ask to
like grab coffee with me, I'm like, why are you
fucking texting me?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Why do you want? Things?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Like my Mum's like it'd be really nice for you
to come over for dinner one night this week, And
I'm like why, And I just like avoid hard conversations
that I avoid awkward conversations. I just I'm like, I'd
rather sit in my own bubble then like get to
things or like speak to things or like put myself
out there. I'm like, you yourself, and I sam like
be your best friend and do your own thing.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Do you think that you're like an introvert? Like do
you like lif being alone a lot?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I'm like an introverted extrovert. I have a social battery,
and then once that social battery is drained.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I like like retreat.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Back into my own house. But I also love being
social Yeah, yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So it makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
And I like love when people reach out to me,
but like if a guy asked me on a date,
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Fuck off.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
And that's why it's like all of these thoughts are
like starting to come up, and I'm like I need
to find out why, because there's no like you have
the bestest friends, and I love my friends. I'd love
hanging out with them, but it's like an agitating thought
that I have in my brain.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
But I'm like, why do you have that?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Baby?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah, also could be like a like a stress response
of like like fight flight or fawn like I think. Also,
if you're going into like being like not just leave
me alone, it's almost like your nervous system is like
I'm not ready for that, Like I can't handle it.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I just need like my own time.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
And maybe it is more of an invitation to be like, Okay,
how can I like regulate myself like in that that
with you, I would do like small things that you
can do, or of anyone's feeling like that, I would
do like a meditation or like a hypnosis, just be
like okay and then I would journal, Like that's just
an immediate thing that you could do just to be like, Okay,
I'm gonna like get into my subconscious like I'm feeling
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triggered for some yeason and I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I don't have to know why.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Also, like I think we put so much pressure on
ourselves to find out exactly what's why with us and
like be like.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Oh why did I do this? Like oh why can't
I just be like being normally. I want to do
these things.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
And it's like we've gone through so much and like
there's so much which like subconscious that is underneath the surface.
It's like it's okay, like just take a second and
like do meditation or do a hypnosis and then come
back to self and like journal some questions and a
lot of the time like you might find out why,
but you might also just like regulate yourself and then
you can respond.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, because I would say I'm quite a highly strung,
like naturally very stressed person, Like okay, my cortersol levels,
I know it through the roof, Like I can't relax,
I can't be present, and I don't like that about myself.
And that's what I was saying now is like I'm
coming to the age where I like, I can't keep
suppressing it and pushing it to the side, because it's
like I don't like the person that it makes me,
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and then I suppress to the person it makes me.
But then I'm like I struggle to be present, and
now I recognize that it's like a circle that I'm
just continuing to go around, and it's coming up like
every three to four months, and it's like stop doing that.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
It's like it's a like I mean there's quotes and
things where it's just like the universe will like start
whispering to you, and it all start like giving new
experiences where it's like, hey, like you might like want
to deal with this thing or like might want to
deal with this part of yourself, and then like if
you don't listen, it'll be like kind of talk firmly
to you, be like hey, like I really think you
should probably just maybe do like it, get some attention
onto this, and then it'll start screaming yeah, and it'll
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be like, hey, like I really think it's time that
you deal with this through like outside events happening, and
so really like a lot of the time, it's like okay,
it's just trying to get your attention so that then
it's ready to like leave or it's ready to be
focused on and healed so that then you can get
to like the next stage and like evolution of yourself.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And as you mentioned before, like obviously journaling and like
meditating and stuff like that. When if the girls that
are listening to this feel these type of emotions and
stuff like that, what is something that people can do
in their everyday life to try to regulate that and
unlock this part brain to help them?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I mean yeah, I feel like meditation for me was
the one thing that I would do that is just
like you can look it up online, like go on
YouTube and look up like a guided grounding meditation. Like
there's so many things you can do there. Hypnosis on
like the tea to be magnetic thing, like honestly love
it so much. You can do somatic processing, like you
can literally shake it out, Like if you're feeling really
angry and like really intense, you can like I mean,
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it feels silly, but you can like just literally put
on music and like shake or like sometimes I just
scream into a pillow like full on, I'm just like,
you know what, I'm feeling really frustrated.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I'm just gonna scream into a pillow.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Yeah, Or like you can push your hands up against
a wall really firmly if you're feeling anger, and that
like pushes the anger out of self, so you can
then you like it brings back like more regulation, which
is really helpful. And then yeah, shaking, so you can
just lie down and like put your back on the
ground and then put your feet up.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
It's called semi supine. And like I also do acting.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
We do this in acting as well, but essentially like
allows your nervous system just like fully regulate and ground.
There's also like these prana mats. Actually just like got
one recently, but it's like these active pressure.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Mats where you lie back I've seen all.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
These thousands of act your pressure points and spikes in it,
and you lie back on that and I do a meditation.
I feel like a thousand times better. Like it's amazing,
walking incredible. That also like regulates your nervous system because
you're going from like left and right.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Grounding being in nature, like hugging a tray, like for real,
hugging a train like actually work, like actually hugging the
tray like like it sounds silly, but even after somatic healing,
like I'm in like another realm, Like I'm dealing with
so many different people's energies and I'm like fully just
taking all of this stuff on and I can feel
really like out of my body and like in a
literal other planet. And so I really need to come
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back down to the Earth. So I literally just like
go lie in the park and like feel the ground. Yeah,
like feeling your two feet on the ground. And also
like doing things where you've named things in your space. Yeah,
that would be my go to.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And how has this, like all of this stuff that
you've done over the last couple of years, how would
you say it's helped you?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Like are you a completely different person?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Yeah, Like I'm still myself at my court. I mean
my friends would be like, girl, you are literally so different,
Like it's crazy, like you.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Have changed so much. I think I'm more. I'm just
so much more myself.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Yeah, Like I think I had masks and things that
I was hiding behind that was like what I was wearing,
what I was doing, if I was trying to get
like external validation from guys or like posting online and
like trying to get something out of them.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Like now I just am I don't really.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Care what other people think, which I think I have
to because what I do is so like left field
that I.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Can't really care.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, And I think it really just aligned me to
go after the things that I've always wanted to go for.
Like I think healing is a forever process, but it's
something that is meant to evolve you so that you
can live out your dreams. Like I don't think you're
meant to just be stuck in this state of healing forever,
and it's meant to bring things to the surface so
that like you can do what you want. Like, for example,
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I've wanted to do acting since I was like five
years old, but there was like always things like my
mom was like, oh, you can't, can't do it, like
you we don't have enough money, Like there's no enough
money to go to classes and all of this stuff,
and so it kind of went to the back burner
for like a long time. But then through doing all
of this work, I felt like my self worth raised
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a lot more and I just manifested more opportunities with
acting and acting classes, and it just it made me
realize like that you don't have to give up on
anything that you want to do. Like and I also
thought that maybe I'd have to choose between healing and
acting and I was going to have to be this
thing that was completely different, and really they actually like
are really similar, which is super interesting. But yeah, I
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think it just gave me the permission to be myself
and to not hold onto these like past stories which
and repeat like intergenerational trauma, you know, like and I
don't want to pass this on to my children.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
That's the biggest thing.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
It's like, yeah, I want to be where it stops,
you know, when you can see patterns within like families,
and I don't want to be that moving forward or
for like the future generations, or to show other young
people in similar situations growing up that like that doesn't
have to be your life.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Like I feel like people will been like, yeah, I'm
fucked up, and then they make that their identity. It's
like rewriting that it's exactly Yeah, it's something that you experience,
but it's not who you.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Are, not being a victim to it.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
I think it's really easy to be like, oh, well
this happened and none and all these things, and it's like, well,
as soon as you have awareness that you're doing that,
then you can create separation and be like okay, like is.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
That serving me anymore?
Speaker 4 (41:33):
And like it's not that empowering to be a victim,
Like you can be like I can actually manifest anything
and change the reality. So I definitely feel like a
very very different person. But at the same time, I
just feel like the meed that was hiding the whole
time has just arrived.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Essentially, wow, yeah, I love this.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, I'm like inspired. I'm like, okay, let's go.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
So for people who are inspired by this and everything
like that and they want to maybe try it out
or how would you say that we all get into it,
I'll do it.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Well, there's two options, so I mean there's a few options.
So you can do it online sessions, which I like,
I'm obsessed with.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Like some people are a little apprehensive about online because they're.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Like why how can you do whatever?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
It's it doesn't work, like what are you talking about?
How do we even do that?
Speaker 4 (42:18):
But essentially, because it's like Wi Fi, it's essentially like
Wi fi like energy doesn't like move through form or
like space, it doesn't need a physical form to be there,
And so you can feel someone else's energy, which actually
I tell people when they're dating, like when you're looking
or if I'm on like hinge or something, I like
try and energetically.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Like get the vibe of someone.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Yeah, instead of just like which feels a little crazy,
but like if you can just like intuit their vibe
a little more into like obviously you can like look
at their pictures, but like what vibe are they giving
off and does that like resonate with you?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
It actually does kind of work, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Anyway, so you can come to an online session and
they go for like two hours and I guide you
through the whole thing and starting groups and I do
them like Friday, Saturday and Thursday at the moment, and
so you sign up if guard is throughout the whole thing,
and then yeah, you can come intuitively however much you
feel like I recommend if you if you're really starting
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to like you want to like really transform and.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Like heal a lot.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
I would do them like every second week, I feel,
but like when we do retreats, you can we do
them like three times a day, so okay, you can
do them as much as you want.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
It's more just like how much you feel.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Then we have like in person sessions, so like right
now I'm just setting up like more different spaces for that.
I'm doing day retreats, which is really exciting. So there's
gonna be like different locations around Victoria and maybe like
New South Wales, we'll say what happens where. Essentially you
can either come for like two nights or you can
come for the day and then you get three quinderline
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activation sessions, so it's like jamming all of the healing,
like really jam packed into one day. So if you're
really busy, you just really want to like transform, and
then you get like a long lunch and it's really
like guided and beautiful and like these really nice locations,
which is really nice, and.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Then you can the next one.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
There's one, actually there's one in a month.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
So I'm coming.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
I'm out come, Come. It's in the Greater from Roads, fun.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
And I have a girlfriend who definitely needs to do this.
I'm making it.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Come.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah, make it CAM three.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
If you're listening, you're coming through three. You're coming.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
We're calling you right now.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Yeah, and so there's that, and then I'm also planning
a retreat next year in Mexico. I know. It's really cool,
really cool location. It has like a cave and like
a note in it, like you know, like those Mexican
swimming holes.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Yeah, so there's like a swimming hole in it. And
then like you go and you walk in down in
the cave and you can do healing sessions there.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
It's into long anyway. Yeah, it's like before, coach.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Would you recommend someone maybe like instead of that three
day thing? Yeah, I mean that day trip. Do you
recommend someone doing it online first?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Like? Should I do it online?
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I try it online first, Okay, just to give yourself
a vibe, see what happens like or intuitively might be
like no, you know what, I feel like, it's I'm
just meant to do it on this day.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Some people prefer in person.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, I feel like I just want to like or
not roll like roll Dog can just go to the day.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, yeah, you can just go on the day.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
And what we can buy tickets online?
Speaker 4 (45:06):
Yeah, the tickets online, so you can go on my
websites like www dot the inside out.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
I think it's two eyes. There's two eyes and inside out.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
It could be three in the website, but also my
Instagram it's the inside out and then you can book
on there through my like acuity.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
So it's all and I share it on the hotter
than yesterday age and you guys will so you guys
can find it easily and I might see you guys
next month.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
No car I'm coming tickets.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
It's really like it comes to you at the time
that it's meant to find.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah, I'm ready for this.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Feel like you've just come back from London, you know,
like it's a it's an exciting time to like shift
and awaken and like, yeah, who knows manifest my summer
exactly what summer could bring.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Really, I'm really excited. I'm really ready for this.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
And if you guys want to come as well, then no,
please come, you guys can all we can all shake it.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Out together exactly and no pressure to share.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
No.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I kind of want to shake though.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
I know everyone wants to shake, Okay, Everyone's like, well
I shaking, yeah, and it's like we don't need a shake, okay,
like shaking, sure.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
If it comes naturally.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Let's not force this let's not force.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Let's just let the shake happen when it's supposed to happen,
you know, And it feels really weird when you try
and force it, because I've been in sessions and like
I've been like, okay, maybe I'll just like try force
a shake to see like it's just like it's like no, no, no,
it's like girl, that's not how this works.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Okay, Okay, it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
And they're hypnotizing in the meditation. How do girls get
into that?
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Well, you can look at I mean, I just go
on YouTube and like look, I'm actually going to start
making like my own guided meditations, which is like tea
hasn't dropped. But like, well, because within the smatics you
kind of I guide you throughout with the guarded meditation,
so that and then to be magnetic, I'm like just
like promoing them. But anyway, like their vibe, you should
look up to be magnetic. So to be magnetic is
it what like a it's like a neural manifestation okay
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on Spotify or they've got this, They've got a podcast.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
The podcast is like amazing.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
It's they also have like a neuroscientists come on, which
talks about like the neuroscience behind manifesting, which is really interesting.
They're doing like a book tour right now and they're
really hyping them up.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
If no, I really I do tell everyone about them,
so like maybe like.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
You need to cut or something this fully, like let's
go to la.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Yeah no, but they are amazing, Like they help me
a lot in terms of like manifesting in my apartment
all these things.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
So ye okay, yeah, well, thank you so much for
me for coming on.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
God, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
I really appreciate it. I feel like this has opened
up and I needed this.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Yea, So hopefully people that are listening to this, it's
like it I feel like.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
They Yeah, I feel like if you guys listen to this,
maybe it's like a sign that you need to like
tap into.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Something exactly or make good a friend.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Yeah you know, I thought of a friend straight away,
exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Send it to a friend.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah, she listens, so she'll be here.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, but no, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
No, thank you, And make sure you guys check out
her stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
It will be all on the Instagram and maybe I'll
see a few of you guys next month exactly.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Great Ocean Road, the inside out Dare Trades, Great Ocean Road.
It's happening November fifteenth.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Okay, I'm actually gonna put it in the calendar so
i can book it, all right, Thank you so much,
and I'll see you guys next week.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
My
Hi guys, Happy Tuesday. Welcome back to hotter than yesterday.
We have a really special guess.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Her name is Mimi.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Welcome, Thank you, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
So Mimi is actually a somatic trauma healer.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Is that how you say it?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, yeah, you can say that. Okay, I'm like facilitator all.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Of the Okay, but yeah, you're just like an angel.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Okay, I'm an angel. I mean that's like a pretty
like if.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
If you could compare it to something, what would you
like to compare it?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I would say like, I'm a facilitator for like, I'm
like a tuning fork, I guess because I don't think
also being a healer, like you're not really I'm not
like some magical being that is healing another person, like
I create the space so they can heal themselves. Oh
is it like culty Like I'm like this, Yeah, yeah,
you know, because I think that's where it gets.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
A little little juju, a little crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Yeah, so I'm like, yeah, I facilitate the healing, but
essentially like other people heal themselves.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh okay, yeah, maybe I'll get here today. So even
I don't really know what this all is, I find
it really really interesting. So can you explain what is
somatic trauma healing in simple terms?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
In simple terms, let's break it down.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Okay, So sematic essentially means like your body, So soma
relates to your body. So sematics it relates completely to
everything within your body.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It's a really trending term right now.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
So people can kind of get a little confused, Like
you might see sematics it might be like people jumping
on a trampoline or just like movement, and like might
have things store within like your hips or right you know,
So anything sematic is to do with the body.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
But when we relate it to.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Trauma healing, it's essentially your trauma is store within like
your cells and your muscles and your tissue and your
fashi up within your body. And so when you've experienced
a lot of trauma or even a small amount of trauma,
it essentially gets like stuck in these energies in your cells,
and then it gets stagnant, like especially low vibrational energy
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like grief or anxiety, stress, all these things. It creates
tension and energy blockages, and so that's where you may
feel like tense, tight shoulders or like in any part
of your body could be like digestive issues, anything like
health related. A lot of the time it's related back
to an emotional blockage.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Or a trauma from that time.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
And so when we work with somatic trauma healing and
essentially creates like an energy field, what I work with
is like an energy healing modality, which is I use
the energy of kundalini, and so that energy is within
like every single person, every single being, and we do
Kundlini activations, and so essentially what that is is like
kundolini is seen as a serpent that it coils at
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the base of your spine. That's like the energetic symbolism
of what it is, especially in like ancient references in
ancient texts. So when you're in an activation, the Kundalini
can be activated, not always awakened, because the kunderline active
awakening is a different thing, but it's activated, and then
the energy.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Moves through your body. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
And so then because I'm creating such a high energy field,
then your body like low vibrational energy is like stress
and trauma respond to the high frequency and then essentially
get like massaged out. It's almost like an energy exercise.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And so what can happen through that is.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
That you can release trauma, but it can happen through
something called careers, which could be like physical movements or manifestations.
So sometimes online you'll see videos of people like shaking
and crying.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yes, they're called careers.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And there's the energy the trauma.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Is moving like it looks intense, but it's actually like
really primal and really normal and like more related to backs.
If you see like animals in the wild, they'll just
like shake off trauma that happens to them. So, like
to be honest, when the first time it happened to me,
it was like what is going on?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Like I was really confused?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, can you control it? Or not?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Really not really interesting, which is a little interesting sign.
You know, it's pretty crazy. So you're like there and
you can you're conscious of it because you can feel
it happening. Yes, But the facilitator or like myself, will
work through different accive pressure points and your different energy channels.
So you have like a chakra system that works there's
like seven yeah, but starts the base of your spine
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and then goes to like your crown and so more
like survival base emotions live within your like base chakra system,
so your root chakra and then your solar plexus and
all of that all the way up. And so when
you first do a lot of the work, it can
situate itself in the survival energy centers.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yes, which is where a lot of like grief, like.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Endometerosis, all these different like emotions get stored right, And
the more you do the work, it like moves up
your body es central.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So it's not like a one time thing.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You need to do it over.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, Like you can't do it once and you might
have like a revelation Like the first time I did
it was like crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
But everyone's so different.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes, because I go and the type of therapy I
kind of do is kinesiology, and I feel like it's
kind of.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
The same thing as what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's like she always like measures, taps my bones and
stuff like that, and like if she'll say something like
maybe an affirmation and she'll be like say I'm beautiful,
and I'll be like I'm beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Because you're lying.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I was like, oh, okay, yeah I am lying, but
like she was like, you're lying because like your body
fully rejected it. And I love that yeah, yeah, and
she always says that I hold stuff at the bottom
of my spine, and she's like, because I always have
back pain and because you're always holding it in.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Your spine whereabouts at the bottom of my spine.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Okay, Yeah, that's very like.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Root survival like and like like and like hips as well.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So yeah, yeah, have you seen the tiktoks.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I'm not sure if you're on TikTok And it's like
you hold trauma in your spine and yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Well yeah, I mean you do hold a lot of
trauma in your hands. But yeah, it's similar to kinesiology,
okay in a sense, like I've had kinesiology before and
like crazyinesiology, but it's a little different, like I can't
I'm not really like listening to your body and like
you're completely rejecting it all intuitively feel what someone else
is feeling, or I'll be intuitively pulled to certain parts
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of their body.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So like a lot of the time.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Your like solar plexus is like the gate of opening,
so that is where like a lot of you can
put a lot of fire into there, and so that's
like our first initial place that we go to, so
that will like open that particular gate and the particular
active pressure points, like say just above your collar bone
is where grief is stored, and so might I might
feel in myself like a pool to go there, or
(06:28):
like a my shoulders will go forward and I'll feel
like I want to go towards that part. So it's
really interesting that like mirrors because your energy fields are
like mirroring the person that you're working with.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Wow, that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's really cool.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So how did you first get into this space? So
I feel like it's quite a niche. Yeah, so not
many people know about it. How did you first like
discover it? And what made you kind of want to
tap into this?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I mean I have my own podcast and so originally
the way that I found this work was I had
my friend now my name back Jack. She came onto
my podcast because essentially in twenty twenty, my mom passed
away and that was when that was like the beginning
of my spiritual awakening. That was like when my whole
life kind of just changed in front of me and
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I was like, what is going on?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Like it was just it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
So I was just trying to adjust with how to
actually like deal with life, not even with the grief, Like, yeah,
that was intense, but more just like awakening spiritually is
so intense because you have all these signs and different
things coming at you and you're just trying to figure
out why it's happening. And so I got really into
meditation and really into hypnosis because it was the only
way that I found I could like access deeper parts
(07:38):
of like my soul and connect with my intuition and
also like connect with like my love, my loved one
and Mum in spirit.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Anyway, so then.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I decided to start a podcast talking about the dysfunctional
families and my upbringing and grief all of the above. Anyway,
I had my friend Rebecca on, and she had started
doing this work because of her brother had unfortunately like
committed suicide, and this was really helpful to her for
her to understand how trauma is stored within the body,
and because his was to do with back pain and
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using antibiotics, and so for me, I met her when
she came on the podcast and she was telling her
story and then I.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Was like just obsessed with it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I was like, this is so interesting, like I've never
heard of anything like this before. And then just a
weird synchronistic moment. Like a year later, I moved to
Bali with my friends, like randomly, of course, I just
it was like COVID and I was like, I'm over
this like lockdowns, like we're moving to Bali anyway, And
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so I moved to Bali and she was actually building
a retreat center there, but we hadn't actually met in person,
so she was building this a treet center in all
the wah too anyway, So we kept on running into
each other and she.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Was like, yeah, you need to come to a session.
I was like, yeah, like I need to go.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And then eventually I just one day was like, Okay,
I'm going to one of these sessions, and I booked
one for like the next week. And I swear like
up until that point, like in the days leading up
to it, like my energy just started to shift.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Like I had a headache.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Like right here in my third eye between my eyebrows
for like two days beforehand, and I was like, what
is going on?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Like this is so crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And at that time of your life, obviously with your
mum passing and everything like that, do you think that
you're pushing a lot of the grief like aside and
distracting yourself and like you're kind of coming to like
a close where you're like I can't keep on going
like this anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Like I mean I definitely have a tendency not as
much now, but I would like just dissociate, yeah, and
like can't just be like everything's fine, Yeah, I'm all good, Yeah,
Like I don't need to deal with this. And I
got a lot of back pain, like especially behind like
my center back, like behind my heart, which is where
like a lot of grief is stored. Like it was
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just like I kept on getting massaged just when I
was in Melbourne because I was like, why is this
back pain like so intense?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And then even the day before I moved to Bali,
I've never had a panic attack before, and I had
like I was moving on stuff out of my house
and I had just like a full on panic attack,
like lying on my ground of my bedroom just being
like what is going on? So it just shows like
even if you think that you're fine. And I was
somewhat dealing with it through like meditating and all of
this stuff, but I wasn't fully dealing with like the
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root cause and my body was showing me that through
like the physical manifestations of it, and so I did
go to Bali, being like I need to be in
nature and heal.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
But it definitely was a bit like running away a
little bit for sure.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
But it worked out because I found when like look
in hindsight, it made sense because if I didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Go, then I wouldn't have had that experience. Then I
wouldn't be where I am now.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
So anyway, I went into this session and I just
as soon as I lied back down on the mat,
like my whole head started shaking like crazily and I
saw sounds like so cliche, but I saw I was.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like, I believe me when I say this, I know
a sec.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I saw like this, like white light come into like
my third eye, and I saw like my grandpa that
I'd never met before.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It was really random. It came into my vision and
he was like just there. I don't even know what
he was saying, but he was just there.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And then I had a lot of throat stagnancy, so
I like had the urge to scream, which can happen
which can take a lot of people a lot of
time to do it. I apparently just didn't care, and
I was just screaming straight away anyway, so in.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Like fuck, no one knows whoere the fuck I am.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
For real, I was like, I actually don't care.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
So I'm in this room with like thirty people and
I was just like screaming and it was like crazy, but.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
It felt really good.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Like I didn't really know what was going on or
why I was but it felt like really therapeutic, and
like afterwards I felt so much more relaxed. But I
was so tired afterwards, Like I just sleeped like two
days and couldn't.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Probably so emotionally drained.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, and your body just moves so much energy, especially
at the first time you do it, if it's that intense.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
So yeah, that was like my intro into it. But
then I did like maybe five more sessions over the
course of like four months, and I just like got obsessed.
Like I loved it so much. It just made me
feel so much better. Like even like music started sounding different,
Like it's kind of intense when you're in it a
(12:08):
little bit, but then when you're out of it, like
you released these low vibrational energies and then you just
feel amazing. Yeah, Like I just had these like synchronistic
things happening all the time, and I just felt like
my actual authentic self came to the surface and like
things just started changing.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So wow, it was really interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And then I decided to stop drinking from doing that,
which was like on Year's Eve that year, So then
I didn't drink for like two and a half years. Wow,
and everything, yeah, just sort of shifted around me.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And then I was.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Doing actually I was working for her, like doing a
social media and she was like, you should train in
it because you're like really sensitive to the energy. So
I didn't really like go after it, like I'd never
picture myself as someone doing this at all.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Like I kind of just came to you.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, like I really didn't think i'd be doing something
like this, but I'm so grateful.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That I did.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
But yeah, I was like okay, So I did it,
and then worked with her while she was building the
retreat center. And then last year I went and did
the physical part of the training, which is like like
four days where you're like in the intensive container of doing,
like you do so many activations and in those four
days and then you work on other people and you
get initiated into the energy.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Right, but that and what does that look like? How
do you know that? Could anyone do it? Or do
you kind of have well yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Not like do you know how they say.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Like sidekicks like you need to have do you kind
of need to have an eye for it?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Or well?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I think it's the embodiment. So I mean that I
like jumped straight through that. But like it was like
two years in between me going and doing the like
physical training, so there was all also like the online part,
which is learning about like the neuroscience and epigenetics and
understanding how trauma actually lives within.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Your bodies, like the theory aspect of it.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, and then you also have to do the session.
So I just was doing them like back to back,
like I was overseas. I was like in Europe and
America and you can do them online and I was
just doing them online like all the time, and I
just was like obsessed. And then to do the training,
I think you have to do ten sessions, but I
would have done like two hundred because I was literally
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just like, yeah, I feel so good from this, and
I was getting like downloads and ideas and so yeah,
I'd like done as many sessions as I needed to,
and then when you're in the initiation.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
It's really crazy. Like I was like, how's this going
to work?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Like yeah, I suddenly just qualified and doing it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I know.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I was really I was really confused. I was like,
how how is this just going to work?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And it just does?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, because I'm so confused by it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Like I'm I wouldn't say I'm a spiritual person, like
I'm quite logical, but I love this type of stuff,
Like I love hearing about it, and I find it
really interesting about like how people came overcame stuff like that,
because I'm like all for therapy and stuff like that.
But I I'm like, yeah, you need to go to therapy,
but when it comes to me, I'm like it doesn't
work real. So then I'm like I always tried it.
(14:55):
I'm like I need to be more open minded to
stuff like this because I really struggled to speak about
my feeling and like everyone's like, oh, well, how does
it make you feel when you went through as a child,
Like we speak about it, and I'm like, there's no
words that actually come out, but I know I store
a lot of shit in my body.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, Like I'm always in pain.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I'm always like really uptight and stuff like that, and
like I have the worst gut issues, like I know
I need to let it out, but then when I
go to speak about it, no words come.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
No, that's normal, But how do you find what's that
like in therapy? Like do you find that you can
talk about your stuff? No?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Therapy?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Right, nothing nothing comes out right. I'm like, I'm fine,
Like what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
And then I will then leave the therapy session and
I'm like, you're not fine.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, sorry, That's why I go.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
To kidney theology because she just like can then I'm
just like get in my brain, read my brain, and
then regurgitate it to me because I don't even know how.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
To alliterate how I'm feeling. But it's not good feelings.
Yeah yeah, no, God, that sounds so depressing. I'm fine,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Completely?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I relate to that so much.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Like I couldn't talk about anything, yeah, like till till
my mom died. Like I didn't speak about anything, Like
I literally was like anything to do with my life,
in my situation anything. I was like, yeah, that's not real,
that's not going on. I'm fine and what it is
is because your throat a lot of the time is closed,
like the energy within your throat is like imploded. So yeah,
you don't feel safe to speak about those things. Yeah,
(16:19):
and so I couldn't talk about it until I did somatics,
and I was actually ate, like properly talk about it
because I could move the energy and the energy would
just release, and so naturally I was more able to
just speak about the things because it wasn't holding onto
all of that stored energy, like yeah, it's real, like.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's crazy, because I just make jokes out of it.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
No, the same. That's how that's.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Probably almost like my screen for help. I'll be like, yeah,
fucked up or like something like that, or I'll make a.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Joke about like my past and everything like that, and.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Then everyone in the room's kind.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Of like, oh, yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Laughed, and it's like no, no, please laugh.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
No.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Definitely, I'm the same, understand And I think I had
to get more used to it being something that doesn't
have to be like you can still like laugh about it.
I think like I I make dead mum jokes all
the time because it's hilarious, Like it's it's hilarious but
it's like when something is so traumatic, like sometimes the
only thing you can do is like laugh, like it's
just really intense. And I don't think also there's that's
(17:15):
like something that wrong with that, Yeah, you know, because
I think it's if you're not dealing with your trauma,
like that's something else. But if you can have like
resolution about it and laugh about it in the same sense,
like I don't think. I think also humans really healing, yeah,
like really healing in when it's done in like a
positive way and you've done the healing alongside of it,
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Like it's where you can have like the joy come
from the trauma.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I find.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, So when you have then started getting into all
of this and now you have a practice where you
practice on people, is that right? How what does that
look like? And how do people kind of get in
touch with you? And then what how is what's the
steps YEA in trying to like open what is.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Called your.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
CDINI, but it's you're also just also think of it
as like your primal life force energy, So it's essentially
your energy at like one hundred percent. OK, So it's
not like anything outside of you. It's just like a
symbol for your energy. So it's like if you could
just turn the dial up on everything that's authentic to
you before, all the trauma that happened to you before
you were born, all of these things.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Your like soul's essence.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
It's essentially just like awakening and turning the volume on
that up. But how does it work? So it's done
either in groups or one on one, and you can
do it online or in person. People are always like,
how do you do it online? Like that's insane, but
you can. But in person group sessions it looks like
almost like a yoga class. So it's like you come,
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there's like an intentional talk through about like I talk
about what we actually do in the session and what
you might experience, and like I set like a very
like sacred container, so it's like very safe. We do
some breath work to start the session, but that's essentially
just to get you like out of your mind and
into your body. Because breath work is breath works like
the step before this, so that obviously breath works really
popular right now, but this is almost like the next step.
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So the breathwork like activates your like calming and regulating hormones,
and then it relieves like any stress or quarters all
that you like live within your stomach, so it's a
particular like conscious connected breath.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And then from that you essentially lie back.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Down and like you don't really have to do anything
because I create the vortext within the room because I'm
like a tuning fork, which essentially is like I have
a particular frequency, and then that brings the other frequencies
into harmony. And so your body has a particular frequency
and then mine because of like the embodiment of the
work that I've done with the qundolini, it then like
matches it and raises up to that particular frequency.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
That's essentially why I don't have to do anything.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
So you lie back down and you receive the energy,
which is feels a little strange because you don't literally
have to say anything or do anything. But there's music
going the whole time, and the music guides you as well,
because it's like can be kind of intense or like
tribal or like linked like visualization, so it goes in
like a crescendo, so it'll get more intense and then
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it will like slow back down, and so a really
good way when you're doing it is you just like
allow the music to take you, because you might like
see particular things and it might be like, oh you
might it might also particular like movement within your body
depending on the music that you're listening to. But the
biggest challenge for people is like surrendering and like allowing
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just the energy to come in because it is so
different to how we see ourselves and like in society.
So yeah, it can be really strange to accept that
that's something that's going to happen and allow and like,
it doesn't work as well if you don't surrender, like
it's because there's going to be resistance and then you're
going to create that resistance and you're going to feel resistance.
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So a lot of the time people like will have
certain emotions come up, and it could be like anger
or stress or trauma, or say an emotion like frustration,
which is really interesting because like you'll be sitting in
the session, you might feel really frustrated and you might
be like, oh fuck, there's like why I'm in stupid session?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Like what am I doing? It's not work, it's not working?
Why is she here? Like she's so stupid? Like this
is so dumb.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
But really like you're feeling frustration, so the frustration can
leave your body, you know, like you.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Have to start it up, honestly, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I mean, it's amazing, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
D Cup, I am coming. I'm like, should we do
it hotter than yesterday trial session?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
But then I'm like, they're going to these girls to
fucking know when I'm started yelling at them, film like it's.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
A safe space.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But yeah, So you receive the energy, you'll feel certain
emotions come up. Your body may move, it may not move.
The moving does not equate to it being better or worse,
like it doesn't equal anything. It just is there or
it's not there, Like it really doesn't matter. You still
feel the energy and receive the energy at one hundred
percent regardless, Like some people leave and they're just like
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lying flat there. But then also in the days after
they may have emotions come up because the energy is
still in your body for like a week afterwards and
make me like seventy two hours, especially like in the
first few times that you do it, and so you're
lie back, you may have visualizations. You may get cold
or hot. That happens a lot as well. Like for me,
I used to have like coriasis. I mean, I still
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get it like a tiny bit, but I got it
when it was like really stressful traumatic time at home.
And essentially crisis is like an autoimmune disease that is
like it's like heat within your body that your body's
like fighting something that it like feels like there's anger
and trauma sitting within your body. And so I would
like sweat so much because it was like clearing so
(22:35):
much of this anger and then just naturally throughout it,
I just had like all of the crisis just heal
and like go away, so which I didn't even realize
until like, I don't know, I just realized one day.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I was like, oh, it's gone. I just don't have
crisis is gone.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
And then so do people do after the sessions and everything.
Do you because you're relief seeing trauma and you're releasing
this energy, is it negative energy?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Would you say?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Like I would, I mean I wouldn't say it wouldn't
be like it's like bad energy. I would just say
that it's like more lower vibrational energy, right, it's like
not serving you anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Right, So then would you say that the kind of
like clears your mind to then think more positively and
be more optimistic and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, exactly, because you're like.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Subconsciously healing trauma and stuff that your body is holding onto.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, it creates more space so that that like your
energy naturally raises and you're frequency naturally raises, so you
just naturally feel much better and more clarity and honestly
just more like yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
And then then does that like then make your mind
more be more like more open to speaking about things
or do you just like forget the trauma.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
No, you definitely become more open to speaking about it. Right,
It's like obviously everyone's different. Like from my own experience,
I felt more open to speaking about things, and it
also just had a lot more clarity about why certain
things happen. Like I do hypnosis as well, and like
meditation as well, because I find that really helps like
connect with certain past versions of myself and like.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Or you can hypnotize yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Well, I do like self hypnosis, which is like I
do like guided hypnosis sessions, which is actually like, yeah,
there's this really.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Good thing called called to be magnetic.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I know, I like talking about myself, but like I
literally tell everyone to do this because it is like
I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, So it's manifestation. It's based in manifestation when.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
It's like in neural reprogramming and like hypnosis to help
you like manifest the life that you want. So it's
not just like visualized like vision board. Yeah, it's based
in la they're like literally the best, and so you
do like guided hypnosis sessions like within yourself, like at home,
and then they'll give you like journal prompts so like
because when you're like in a hypnotic state, that's when
your subconscious comes forth and then you can journal from
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that place. So through that, I've had like a lot
of memories come up that were like suppressed or where
I'd like really didn't know why I had a belief
and why that belief had formed and where with like
the root cause of that belief. And when you know
where the memory has come from, when you can like
reprogram it and create like a new neural pathway, which
is really interesting because then you change the memory associated
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with the belief. So say if you have a memory
of someone being like you're unlovable or something, and so
you might not consciously know where that sits, but if
you go back, this can happen also like in somatics.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Like it can come up.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
You go back, and you go back towards like the memory,
and it will take you to like that place. A
lot of the time it's when you're like zero to
seven years old, because that's when you're like subconscious is formed,
and so in that time it can be after but
in that time there'll be a memory, and you'll visualize
the memory and go back, and then you can have
like a magnetic parent or someone like come and heal,
(25:39):
or your higher self come in and like heal and
like change the memory for that like in a child
and that younger version of self.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Right.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And then because when you're rewiring neural pathways, it's like
you can only override a neural pathway, like you can't
change a belief. You have to like override it with
something different. So that's why like there'll be you may
hear things being like I am lovable, So then you
have to do an affirmation within that, which you can
use like EMDR, which is a type of like somatic processing.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, which like a lot of time does like my
mom did em D.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It's like rewiring like your original thought and like it
helps people with PTSD and stuff like that that you like, yeah,
rewires like what you actually experience kind of.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, And so like the more you do it,
then you change the new a pathway to like it's
almost like a train going down like a train track.
You're like, oh, I could go down this I'm unlovable
train track, and it's just been going on there because
it's like the easiest.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Route like route to go on.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
But then when you're like, hey, there's actually this like
new train line that's like really new and built and
like way better, super loving and moder great.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
The vibes are way better.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
It's really pretty and like it's such a vibe like
maybe let's just like divert here and it's like, Okay,
I'm not five years old anymore, and that like memory
where my mom like didn't give me attention. I felt
like unlovable, Like does that really.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Serve me anymore?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Like at the age that I've at, is that who
I am anymore? Like No, I'm I'm an adult and
I can take care of myself and like I can
love myself. So then it's like, no, I am lovable
and so then you shift it and then it just
naturally takes that route, which is like really amazing, So I.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Can sign me up. Lastly, how often do you do this?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I mean I try to it every day, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
So you kind of like self hypnotize every day.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, but it's almost just like a meditation, right, and
you can do a different one. So they have like
Unblocked in a love, Unblocked in a Child, and there's
like it's like workshops for like three weeks.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's really the way in La.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Well they're based in LA, but then they have it's
all online, so it's called like the Pathway and then
you do it on there, but it's.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
The pathway, guys, write it down, keep it.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
That podcast also is really good and I would do
that alongside my own like somatic practice because I also
think like everyone has a particular like modality.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
It means like a like a type of healing. Yeah,
you know, and they could be like energy healing would
be a type modality, like hypnosis would be a type
of modality.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
It's like a mode of healing. Yeah, that they like
feel called to.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And I really believe that people should go intuitively to
what they feel called to. Like I wouldn't say to
someone like just come to me, because like I want
like business and like how I thrive, Like that's not
serving you. Like if intuitively there's someone else that you
feel more called to, then like go to them, because
like your energy and your soul like knows who you're
(28:21):
supposed to learn from and who you're spellsed to heal from.
So I think like using discernment is like the best
tool in terms of connecting with the intuition and knowing
what's right, Like you know what's right and what feels right,
so you know, it might be kinesiology, it might be hypnosis,
it might be like a combination, but it's just like
using your intuition to be like does this feel right
within my body and is it like one hundred percent yes.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But I also think it's like keeping an open mind to.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It all, Like like I always say, with like people
with like that struggled with addiction, Like I know I've
had a past with like people with my family who
struggled with addiction and all of those things where I
was like, you can't put them in rehab unless they
want to go to rehab, yes, And it's like with
the thing, it's like, Okay, you could go to a
somatic healing session, but it's like unless you actually want
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to go there and have an open mind to do that.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Stuff, don't fucking go. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, unless you're actually.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Wanting to get better and get to heal the things
that you have in your body and in your mind,
don't fucking go unless you have like you're going to
like surrender to it.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
And I think that.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
That's why for so long, like I haven't gone to
like get help or like get to the root cause
of things like that, because I'm like, right now, I
feel like at a point of my life, it was
like a couple months ago, like it was serving me
in a way that I needed protecting, so like my
trauma was. But now I'm like, Okay, now I'm becoming
more open minded to it. So if I went like
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six months ago, I'd be wasting money because I knew
that those like weird and probably not healthy coping mechanisms
were serving a purpose for me at that point of time.
Of course, so now I'm like, Okay, they're no longer
serving me. I'm outgrowing there but I keep on going
back to them because it's all I know. And it's like, yeah,
you're not making any good shit for yourself, Like you're
(30:10):
just like shooting yourself in the foot. So now I'm like, Okay,
I need to be more open to it.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Do you feel like now you're at a point where
you're like you want to like heal it like fully?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, yeah, because I'm like, ok, I'm twenty three, and
I know that's still super young, but I'm like I'm
holding onto stuff that happened to me when I was twelve. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
And it's like, if you want.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
To move forward in your life and I continue to
do these things that you think that you're like made
for and that you're grateful for, you can't keep on
doing the shit that like, yeah, you've attached yourself to
when you're twelve. It's like, when you're going to separate
that stuff, when you're going to break those bad habits? Yeah,
And I never And I think that's why I've haven't
really given in a lot to it, because I haven't
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ever been ready for it. Because I saw this thing
once and it said that your coping mechanisms and everything
you're formed from where and you're like, as you said,
went from your one to from age zero to seven,
a lot of the traumatic stuff that happened to you,
your body, your brain was too young to process the
actual stuff, so then you start processing it later in life.
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And that's when people have like commitment issues and trust
issues and stuff like that because something happened to them
a super super young.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Age, but it's way too traumatic for the brain to process.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
So then that's why, like so many people when people
say like their twenties are like some of the hardest
years of their life, is because like all the stuff
is coming up from.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
When you were a young kid. So now I'm like,
is this like what happened to me when I was younger?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Yeah, And sometimes like you don't know, Like I was
really scared that I was going to have like suppressed
really crazy memories come up, and I was kind of terrified.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I was. And I think that that's wird because I
know that. I'm like, maybe it's a fear.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, no, I get that that's normal. I thought that
was going to happen.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
It didn't happen, Like it can't happen to people, but
I think it only happens when your nervous system is
ready for it to happen as well. Yes, and that's
the same thing for anything within a session, Like your
body's not going to shake and cry and scream if
your nervous system doesn't feel ready to do that. So
and I think trusting when the things come up and
when you feel like you are ready, Like it does
get to a point where you're like, this is actually
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making my life so much harder, Like I'm it's coming
up in relationships or like I'm repeating the same patterns
but a lot of the time, like you're not aware
of it. Yeah, and then you look back and you're like,
what was I doing? Like why was I doing that?
While was I attracting that certain type of person? Why
was I like overgiving or like settling for less than
I deserve? Yes, you're like base subconscious belief feels that's
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what you deserve.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
So it's only when you have separation from it that
you can be like, okay, now it's time.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
See, like I'm like, it's going to make me sound
so fucked up.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I'm a really big avoidant, Like like you know your
attachment styles, I'm an avoidant attachment style. I'm very good
to detach from people really easy, and I don't date,
and I don't like put myself out there because I'm like,
I'm just going to avoid you. I was on FaceTime
with my friend the other day and I was like,
everyone annoys me, but I know it's coming from a
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place of love. But I'm like when people ask to
like grab coffee with me, I'm like, why are you
fucking texting me?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Why do you want? Things?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Like my Mum's like it'd be really nice for you
to come over for dinner one night this week, And
I'm like why, And I just like avoid hard conversations
that I avoid awkward conversations. I just I'm like, I'd
rather sit in my own bubble then like get to
things or like speak to things or like put myself
out there. I'm like, you yourself, and I sam like
be your best friend and do your own thing.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Do you think that you're like an introvert? Like do
you like lif being alone a lot?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I'm like an introverted extrovert. I have a social battery,
and then once that social battery is drained.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I like like retreat.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Back into my own house. But I also love being
social Yeah, yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So it makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
And I like love when people reach out to me,
but like if a guy asked me on a date,
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Fuck off.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
And that's why it's like all of these thoughts are
like starting to come up, and I'm like I need
to find out why, because there's no like you have
the bestest friends, and I love my friends. I'd love
hanging out with them, but it's like an agitating thought
that I have in my brain.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
But I'm like, why do you have that?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Baby?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah, also could be like a like a stress response
of like like fight flight or fawn like I think. Also,
if you're going into like being like not just leave
me alone, it's almost like your nervous system is like
I'm not ready for that, Like I can't handle it.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I just need like my own time.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
And maybe it is more of an invitation to be like, Okay,
how can I like regulate myself like in that that
with you, I would do like small things that you
can do, or of anyone's feeling like that, I would
do like a meditation or like a hypnosis, just be
like okay and then I would journal, Like that's just
an immediate thing that you could do just to be like, Okay,
I'm gonna like get into my subconscious like I'm feeling
(34:42):
triggered for some yeason and I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I don't have to know why.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Also, like I think we put so much pressure on
ourselves to find out exactly what's why with us and
like be like.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Oh why did I do this? Like oh why can't
I just be like being normally. I want to do
these things.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
And it's like we've gone through so much and like
there's so much which like subconscious that is underneath the surface.
It's like it's okay, like just take a second and
like do meditation or do a hypnosis and then come
back to self and like journal some questions and a
lot of the time like you might find out why,
but you might also just like regulate yourself and then
you can respond.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, because I would say I'm quite a highly strung,
like naturally very stressed person, Like okay, my cortersol levels,
I know it through the roof, Like I can't relax,
I can't be present, and I don't like that about myself.
And that's what I was saying now is like I'm
coming to the age where I like, I can't keep
suppressing it and pushing it to the side, because it's
like I don't like the person that it makes me,
(35:39):
and then I suppress to the person it makes me.
But then I'm like I struggle to be present, and
now I recognize that it's like a circle that I'm
just continuing to go around, and it's coming up like
every three to four months, and it's like stop doing that.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
It's like it's a like I mean there's quotes and
things where it's just like the universe will like start
whispering to you, and it all start like giving new
experiences where it's like, hey, like you might like want
to deal with this thing or like might want to
deal with this part of yourself, and then like if
you don't listen, it'll be like kind of talk firmly
to you, be like hey, like I really think you
should probably just maybe do like it, get some attention
onto this, and then it'll start screaming yeah, and it'll
(36:16):
be like, hey, like I really think it's time that
you deal with this through like outside events happening, and
so really like a lot of the time, it's like okay,
it's just trying to get your attention so that then
it's ready to like leave or it's ready to be
focused on and healed so that then you can get
to like the next stage and like evolution of yourself.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And as you mentioned before, like obviously journaling and like
meditating and stuff like that. When if the girls that
are listening to this feel these type of emotions and
stuff like that, what is something that people can do
in their everyday life to try to regulate that and
unlock this part brain to help them?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I mean yeah, I feel like meditation for me was
the one thing that I would do that is just
like you can look it up online, like go on
YouTube and look up like a guided grounding meditation. Like
there's so many things you can do there. Hypnosis on
like the tea to be magnetic thing, like honestly love
it so much. You can do somatic processing, like you
can literally shake it out, Like if you're feeling really
angry and like really intense, you can like I mean,
(37:18):
it feels silly, but you can like just literally put
on music and like shake or like sometimes I just
scream into a pillow like full on, I'm just like,
you know what, I'm feeling really frustrated.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I'm just gonna scream into a pillow.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Yeah, Or like you can push your hands up against
a wall really firmly if you're feeling anger, and that
like pushes the anger out of self, so you can
then you like it brings back like more regulation, which
is really helpful. And then yeah, shaking, so you can
just lie down and like put your back on the
ground and then put your feet up.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
It's called semi supine. And like I also do acting.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
We do this in acting as well, but essentially like
allows your nervous system just like fully regulate and ground.
There's also like these prana mats. Actually just like got
one recently, but it's like these active pressure.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Mats where you lie back I've seen all.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
These thousands of act your pressure points and spikes in it,
and you lie back on that and I do a meditation.
I feel like a thousand times better. Like it's amazing,
walking incredible. That also like regulates your nervous system because
you're going from like left and right.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Grounding being in nature, like hugging a tray, like for real,
hugging a train like actually work, like actually hugging the
tray like like it sounds silly, but even after somatic healing,
like I'm in like another realm, Like I'm dealing with
so many different people's energies and I'm like fully just
taking all of this stuff on and I can feel
really like out of my body and like in a
literal other planet. And so I really need to come
(38:38):
back down to the Earth. So I literally just like
go lie in the park and like feel the ground. Yeah,
like feeling your two feet on the ground. And also
like doing things where you've named things in your space. Yeah,
that would be my go to.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And how has this, like all of this stuff that
you've done over the last couple of years, how would
you say it's helped you?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Like are you a completely different person?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Yeah, Like I'm still myself at my court. I mean
my friends would be like, girl, you are literally so different,
Like it's crazy, like you.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Have changed so much. I think I'm more. I'm just
so much more myself.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Yeah, Like I think I had masks and things that
I was hiding behind that was like what I was wearing,
what I was doing, if I was trying to get
like external validation from guys or like posting online and
like trying to get something out of them.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Like now I just am I don't really.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Care what other people think, which I think I have
to because what I do is so like left field
that I.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Can't really care.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, And I think it really just aligned me to
go after the things that I've always wanted to go for.
Like I think healing is a forever process, but it's
something that is meant to evolve you so that you
can live out your dreams. Like I don't think you're
meant to just be stuck in this state of healing forever,
and it's meant to bring things to the surface so
that like you can do what you want. Like, for example,
(39:55):
I've wanted to do acting since I was like five
years old, but there was like always things like my
mom was like, oh, you can't, can't do it, like
you we don't have enough money, Like there's no enough
money to go to classes and all of this stuff,
and so it kind of went to the back burner
for like a long time. But then through doing all
of this work, I felt like my self worth raised
(40:15):
a lot more and I just manifested more opportunities with
acting and acting classes, and it just it made me
realize like that you don't have to give up on
anything that you want to do. Like and I also
thought that maybe I'd have to choose between healing and
acting and I was going to have to be this
thing that was completely different, and really they actually like
are really similar, which is super interesting. But yeah, I
(40:37):
think it just gave me the permission to be myself
and to not hold onto these like past stories which
and repeat like intergenerational trauma, you know, like and I
don't want to pass this on to my children.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
That's the biggest thing.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
It's like, yeah, I want to be where it stops,
you know, when you can see patterns within like families,
and I don't want to be that moving forward or
for like the future generations, or to show other young
people in similar situations growing up that like that doesn't
have to be your life.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Like I feel like people will been like, yeah, I'm
fucked up, and then they make that their identity. It's
like rewriting that it's exactly Yeah, it's something that you experience,
but it's not who you.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Are, not being a victim to it.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
I think it's really easy to be like, oh, well
this happened and none and all these things, and it's like, well,
as soon as you have awareness that you're doing that,
then you can create separation and be like okay, like is.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
That serving me anymore?
Speaker 4 (41:33):
And like it's not that empowering to be a victim,
Like you can be like I can actually manifest anything
and change the reality. So I definitely feel like a
very very different person. But at the same time, I
just feel like the meed that was hiding the whole
time has just arrived.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Essentially, wow, yeah, I love this.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, I'm like inspired. I'm like, okay, let's go.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
So for people who are inspired by this and everything
like that and they want to maybe try it out
or how would you say that we all get into it,
I'll do it.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Well, there's two options, so I mean there's a few options.
So you can do it online sessions, which I like,
I'm obsessed with.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Like some people are a little apprehensive about online because they're.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Like why how can you do whatever?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
It's it doesn't work, like what are you talking about?
How do we even do that?
Speaker 4 (42:18):
But essentially, because it's like Wi Fi, it's essentially like
Wi fi like energy doesn't like move through form or
like space, it doesn't need a physical form to be there,
And so you can feel someone else's energy, which actually
I tell people when they're dating, like when you're looking
or if I'm on like hinge or something, I like
try and energetically.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Like get the vibe of someone.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Yeah, instead of just like which feels a little crazy,
but like if you can just like intuit their vibe
a little more into like obviously you can like look
at their pictures, but like what vibe are they giving
off and does that like resonate with you?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
It actually does kind of work, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Anyway, so you can come to an online session and
they go for like two hours and I guide you
through the whole thing and starting groups and I do
them like Friday, Saturday and Thursday at the moment, and
so you sign up if guard is throughout the whole thing,
and then yeah, you can come intuitively however much you
feel like I recommend if you if you're really starting
(43:10):
to like you want to like really transform and.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Like heal a lot.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
I would do them like every second week, I feel,
but like when we do retreats, you can we do
them like three times a day, so okay, you can
do them as much as you want.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
It's more just like how much you feel.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Then we have like in person sessions, so like right
now I'm just setting up like more different spaces for that.
I'm doing day retreats, which is really exciting. So there's
gonna be like different locations around Victoria and maybe like
New South Wales, we'll say what happens where. Essentially you
can either come for like two nights or you can
come for the day and then you get three quinderline
(43:44):
activation sessions, so it's like jamming all of the healing,
like really jam packed into one day. So if you're
really busy, you just really want to like transform, and
then you get like a long lunch and it's really
like guided and beautiful and like these really nice locations,
which is really nice, and.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Then you can the next one.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
There's one, actually there's one in a month.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
So I'm coming.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
I'm out come, Come. It's in the Greater from Roads, fun.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
And I have a girlfriend who definitely needs to do this.
I'm making it.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Come.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah, make it CAM three.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
If you're listening, you're coming through three. You're coming.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
We're calling you right now.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Yeah, and so there's that, and then I'm also planning
a retreat next year in Mexico. I know. It's really cool,
really cool location. It has like a cave and like
a note in it, like you know, like those Mexican
swimming holes.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Yeah, so there's like a swimming hole in it. And
then like you go and you walk in down in
the cave and you can do healing sessions there.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
It's into long anyway. Yeah, it's like before, coach.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Would you recommend someone maybe like instead of that three
day thing? Yeah, I mean that day trip. Do you
recommend someone doing it online first?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Like? Should I do it online?
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I try it online first, Okay, just to give yourself
a vibe, see what happens like or intuitively might be
like no, you know what, I feel like, it's I'm
just meant to do it on this day.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Some people prefer in person.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, I feel like I just want to like or
not roll like roll Dog can just go to the day.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, yeah, you can just go on the day.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
And what we can buy tickets online?
Speaker 4 (45:06):
Yeah, the tickets online, so you can go on my
websites like www dot the inside out.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
I think it's two eyes. There's two eyes and inside out.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
It could be three in the website, but also my
Instagram it's the inside out and then you can book
on there through my like acuity.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
So it's all and I share it on the hotter
than yesterday age and you guys will so you guys
can find it easily and I might see you guys
next month.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
No car I'm coming tickets.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
It's really like it comes to you at the time
that it's meant to find.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah, I'm ready for this.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Feel like you've just come back from London, you know,
like it's a it's an exciting time to like shift
and awaken and like, yeah, who knows manifest my summer
exactly what summer could bring.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Really, I'm really excited. I'm really ready for this.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
And if you guys want to come as well, then no,
please come, you guys can all we can all shake it.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Out together exactly and no pressure to share.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
No.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I kind of want to shake though.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
I know everyone wants to shake, Okay, Everyone's like, well
I shaking, yeah, and it's like we don't need a shake, okay,
like shaking, sure.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
If it comes naturally.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Let's not force this let's not force.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Let's just let the shake happen when it's supposed to happen,
you know, And it feels really weird when you try
and force it, because I've been in sessions and like
I've been like, okay, maybe I'll just like try force
a shake to see like it's just like it's like no, no, no,
it's like girl, that's not how this works.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Okay, Okay, it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
And they're hypnotizing in the meditation. How do girls get
into that?
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Well, you can look at I mean, I just go
on YouTube and like look, I'm actually going to start
making like my own guided meditations, which is like tea
hasn't dropped. But like, well, because within the smatics you
kind of I guide you throughout with the guarded meditation,
so that and then to be magnetic, I'm like just
like promoing them. But anyway, like their vibe, you should
look up to be magnetic. So to be magnetic is
it what like a it's like a neural manifestation okay
(46:54):
on Spotify or they've got this, They've got a podcast.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
The podcast is like amazing.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
It's they also have like a neuroscientists come on, which
talks about like the neuroscience behind manifesting, which is really interesting.
They're doing like a book tour right now and they're
really hyping them up.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
If no, I really I do tell everyone about them,
so like maybe like.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
You need to cut or something this fully, like let's
go to la.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Yeah no, but they are amazing, Like they help me
a lot in terms of like manifesting in my apartment
all these things.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
So ye okay, yeah, well, thank you so much for
me for coming on.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
God, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
I really appreciate it. I feel like this has opened
up and I needed this.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Yea, So hopefully people that are listening to this, it's
like it I feel like.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
They Yeah, I feel like if you guys listen to this,
maybe it's like a sign that you need to like
tap into.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Something exactly or make good a friend.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Yeah you know, I thought of a friend straight away,
exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Send it to a friend.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah, she listens, so she'll be here.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, but no, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
No, thank you, And make sure you guys check out
her stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
It will be all on the Instagram and maybe I'll
see a few of you guys next month exactly.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Great Ocean Road, the inside out Dare Trades, Great Ocean Road.
It's happening November fifteenth.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Okay, I'm actually gonna put it in the calendar so
i can book it, all right, Thank you so much,
and I'll see you guys next week.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
My
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