May 14, 2025 • 28 mins
This week, film student and goalball athlete Caitlin Hannen-Williams returns to the studio! Abby and Simon catch up with her about her upcoming international competition in Finland, where she'll represent Australia on the world stage. They also dive into her passion for sound design, her studies in film, and how she balances it all.
The Goalball Club’s World Cup will take place in Espoo, Finland between 22 and 25 May 2025.
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S1 (00:08):
Hi I'm Abby.
S2 (00:10):
I'm Simon, and welcome to. In Plain Sight, a program
where we highlight people who are making a positive impact
within their community and the disability sector.
S1 (00:19):
Shining a light on those who might otherwise be hidden
in plain sight.
S2 (00:24):
And we share these stories on a weekly basis with
you here on Vision Australia Radio. Hello everyone, and hello
to my co-host and producer, Abby Green. Hello, Abby.
S1 (00:33):
Hi, Simon. How are you?
S2 (00:35):
I'm great. Abby, how are you going?
S1 (00:37):
I'm alive. That's good.
S2 (00:39):
Good to hear, good to hear. And, um, it's great
to be in the studio once again. It's the highlight
of my week to chat with you, Abby, and also
to find out about these great, interesting people that we
get to talk to on a weekly basis here on
In Plain Sight on Vision Australia Radio.
S1 (00:55):
Yes. Any excuse to talk. That's what I say. Indeed. And, uh,
100 K your way is just finished up. So how
did you go, Simon?
S2 (01:05):
I really enjoyed the process. Um. And I'm really pleased
and proud to say that I reached one of my goals,
which was to raise $1,000 for the for Vision Australia,
and I nearly completed my fitness walking goal. Well, I
didn't really. I was a fair bit short of it.
S1 (01:24):
How many how many days did you end up walking?
S2 (01:26):
So my goal was to try and walk 100km in
the month of April, and I walked about 70.
S1 (01:33):
Wow.
S2 (01:34):
But one thing I did learn a lot whilst participating
in this event, a great fundraising event for Vision Australia
was to join in the team for one and all
the other was to take note of how much exercise
that I do and to track it and to acknowledge
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that exercise doesn't just come. It's like everything. It has
to be scheduled in and made part of my day.
And the reason why I fell a little bit short
of my goal was that I didn't schedule in every day,
at least the minimum 20 minutes to 30 minute day walk,
and I'm going to try to be more motivated and
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continue with that. So it was a great event. I'm
really glad to participate in it, and I look forward
to participating in again next year. And I'd like to
take this opportunity to thank all my supporters and well
wishers and everyone who donated to my fundraising page. And
thank you everyone for donating to Vision Australia in general,
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because it helps in everything that we do.
S1 (02:43):
Yeah, it was it was a great initiative. Uh, amazing work.
70 is still a lot. And you reached your goal,
which is making a difference. $1,000 can still go a
long way.
S2 (02:53):
Indeed it can. And we hope to go a long
way with this program. And we are really rapt and
excited and pleased to be part of Vision Australia Radio.
S1 (03:02):
Yes. And I just want to repeat to everybody that
any feedback that you have, or if you even want
to come on the show, make sure to give us
a an email. Our email address is in plain sight
at Vision Australia. Org that's in plain sight at Vision Australia. Org.
We'd really love to hear from you.
S2 (03:24):
Exactly what are we talking about this week, Abby?
S1 (03:28):
Well, we wanted to make mention that Global Accessibility Awareness
Day is coming up on May 15th.
S2 (03:35):
It's a day where we take stock of where we're
at within global accessibility, within the digital world in particular,
because as we know, everything these days revolves around being online.
And here at Vision Australia Radio, we work within the
world of providing access to people who are blind or
(03:58):
have low vision. And this extends into the digital world
as well. And as we recently were talking to our guest,
Jade Abbott, a few weeks ago, things can be made
a lot easier for the blind and vision impaired online
just by giving a little description of the picture, or
being careful with what words you use. And just to.
(04:19):
When you're creating a website, take into consideration the whole
spectrum of what is required for the broader audience that
you might be trying to attract, in that some of
us have difficulty reading. Some of us have difficulty seeing,
and some of us have difficulty in hearing. And you
can take that into consideration and make it more inclusive
and accessible for everybody. And that's what Global Accessibility Day
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is all about. And we wanted to give a nod
and shout out to these interesting and important days in
our calendar.
S1 (04:52):
Yeah, it's it's all about creating digital accessibility and promoting
that awareness. And it even extends to this radio station,
which allows blind and vision impaired people to still get
the information they need. The election that has just gone
by was actually aired on the radio station. So again,
that's about accessibility and inclusion and making sure that everyone's
(05:15):
involved and everyone's got the same access. So I think
that that was really good. And I was involved in
some of that election reporting, which was pretty cool as well.
So yeah.
S2 (05:25):
Yeah, well done to everyone involved with that and to
the Vision Australia radio and to all the journalists who
contributed to our broadcast of the election and the election results.
Thank you.
S1 (05:38):
Now moving along today we're going to be speaking to
Caitlyn Hannon. Williams. Now we've spoken to her before our
previous episode, we first talked to her and was called
balls with Bells. So make sure to look back at that.
That was in the previous that was last year and
the previous season two. So definitely make sure to check
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that one out.
S2 (05:59):
Yes, we're talking to Caitlin again today. One is because
she's a fabulous person to talk with. But second, she
is going to two major goalball tournaments in Europe and
we find out all about that. And just to note
that these people who are representing Australia for this particular sport,
as is the case for a lot of amateur sports
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in Australia, these people are paying their own way to
go over and represent their country and to play this
fabulous game. And my hat goes off to them and
to everyone that's supported them. To get this far and
to play this fabulous game of goalball, which is a
big deal in some countries, and we want to promote
it here at Vision Australia Radio, and we wish everyone
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involved the best of luck.
S1 (06:46):
Yes, and in the podcast description, we'll include all the
dates of the tournaments and a link to the Facebook
page so you can follow along. So we'll hear from
Caitlin now.
S3 (06:55):
Thank you.
S1 (06:58):
Today we're going to be talking to Caitlin Hannon Williams
who is studying a Bachelor of Arts. So welcome Caitlin
and welcome her guide dog Rennie.
S4 (07:08):
Yeah. Welcome, Rennie.
S2 (07:10):
Hi, Caitlin.
S4 (07:11):
Hi, Simon.
S2 (07:11):
How you doing?
S4 (07:12):
Yeah. Doing well. Very busy.
S2 (07:14):
Very busy. Yeah. I'm sure I'm really, um, talking about
being busy. I'm really appreciative that you could come in
and speak with us today. You were one of our
most favorite guests because you're a lively, interesting person and
you've got so much going on. And it was so
fun to talk to you last time that we thought
we'd definitely have to have you in again. And just
to remind everyone that you can go back and listen
(07:36):
to the interview we did with Caitlin previously, but we're
going to refresh people's minds about what Caitlin's up to. So, Caitlin,
you're studying at Curtin University? What are you studying there?
S4 (07:46):
So I'm in my third year of a Bachelor of
Creative Arts, so I'm almost done. It's very stressful, but
going well. Lots of fun.
S2 (07:54):
What are some of the major projects you're working on
at the moment at uni?
S4 (07:57):
So for all the third year students, we do a
major film. Yeah. Which we do over the span of
the entire year. So in the first semester we focus
on all the pre-production. So like getting actors, locations, all
that kind of stuff. And then we make a pilot
episode and then we. Yeah, we kind of like, get
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critiqued on the pilot. And then in the second semester,
we make the whole film, which is usually about like
5 to 7 ish minutes. So it's not long, but
it also is really long at the same time. So
lots of filming, lots of work behind the scenes as well.
But it's really, really fun.
S2 (08:34):
I bet. And can you give us an insight into
what your role is within this filmmaking, and can you
give us a hint of what your film was about?
S4 (08:43):
Yes. So my film is called Tumble Dry.
S2 (08:46):
Tumble dry.
S4 (08:46):
Tumble Dry. Yeah. Um, and it was written by one
of my fellow students. It's a really, really good script.
I don't know if I can give it justice by
explaining it like this, but it is really good. It's
set in a laundromat, and there's these two sisters, and
one of them is about ten, and she she loses
her one of her little plastic pony toys, and she
(09:07):
thinks that it's gone into the washing machine. That's like
the basic premise. Okay, that's like our pilot scene. And
my role in the project is a sound designer. So
I'm focusing on, like recording all the audio, helping in
post-production with, like, making the washing machine sounds, all that
kind of stuff. So yeah, that's my role. It's lots
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of fun.
S2 (09:28):
I.
S4 (09:29):
Bet. Very busy. Great.
S1 (09:31):
And where can we watch the film?
S4 (09:32):
So once they're finished, which will be at the end
of the year. So probably about November ish. Um, they
will be put into the curtain raiser film festival, and
there will be awards and all kinds of events, and
you can watch it there. Or depending on funding, we
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may be able to put it into other film festivals.
S2 (09:58):
Excellent.
S4 (09:59):
Yeah, it's very exciting.
S2 (10:00):
Tell us about how you go about creating the sounds
for a film, like, do you actually record a tumble dryer,
or do you have to create that with a computer,
or what they used to call follies in, you know,
how how would you make how do you add those
sound effects and so forth in this type of environment?
S4 (10:19):
There's kind of like I can do all of the above,
but mostly what I find easiest is to record the
sounds like as like diegetic audio. So like just if
you hear a washing machine, I'm like putting the mic
and I'm recording that sound of the washing machine or
like the buttons being pressed and the coins being put
into the slot. The coin slot. Yeah. So I kind
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of like to record on set or even as just
like Wilde's, which is like isolated recordings. So usually you
do that with the actors if they're like, have to
grunt or like breathe heavily because you kind of can't
really get that on set in, like on location. So
kind of do that as Wilde's. But um, also for
the sound design, which is that's more in post-production. So
(11:03):
we use a whole bunch of software and you can
combine a whole bunch of sounds that you record to
create a new sound. So that's kind of like the
sound design aspect of the role. Um, since it's quite
a simple film sound wise, like there's not waves crashing
or there's not like planes that I need to, like, fabricate.
(11:25):
And it's all like set indoors. So there's not really
too much to do in that aspect of the film. But, um,
lots of recording on set of the sounds and then
just combining them together to create like an environment.
S2 (11:39):
Yeah, I really find it fascinating, um, especially since I've
been doing some audio work myself. How these things are
created and get a bit of an insight into the
behind the scenes of how things are put together. It's fascinating.
S4 (11:55):
It's lots of fun. I absolutely love it. And it's
so good that, like, my role on set is basically
just to put headphones on and just listen to people.
S2 (12:03):
Okay.
S4 (12:03):
Like, I just it's so good. I find it so fun.
I can just eavesdrop on everyone.
S2 (12:09):
Have you ever done any field recording? Just creating a
purely audio piece?
S4 (12:14):
I have, yeah. In first year we did an assignment
where it was just a soundscape, so we had to
like tell a story only using sounds, which was really,
really fun, actually. I had lots of fun.
S2 (12:23):
I made one of those.
S4 (12:24):
Yeah, it's so cool.
S2 (12:26):
How much further do you have to go on your
studies at uni?
S4 (12:29):
I'm part time this year because I've got a lot
of travelling with goalball.
S2 (12:33):
Yeah, we'll get to that in a minute.
S4 (12:34):
Yeah, there's a lot going on. So I was like,
I'm going to drop down to part time. So I've
got this year part time and next year part time
and then I'm all done. So not long to go.
S2 (12:42):
I'm glad to see you putting your priorities right. Representing
yourself and the country and and your chosen sport now
going on from there. The chosen sport that you play
is goalball. Yeah. Now we should remind people what goalball is.
Can you just give us, like, a really quick rundown
of what goalball is? Caitlin.
S4 (12:59):
Yeah. Goalball is a sport made for blind and vision
impaired people. And it's played with a ball with bells
in it so you can hear it and everyone. It's
kind of like on a basketball sized court, and everyone
on the court is fully blindfolded, and you throw the
ball underarm from one side to the other and you
stop it from getting in like soccer type goals with
your body. So like, you block it with your body
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from getting into the goals.
S2 (13:22):
And there's three people in each team. Yeah. On the
court at one time.
S4 (13:25):
Yeah.
S2 (13:25):
So you're all blindfolded. The ball's got bells. How do
you know where you are? Within the court space itself?
S4 (13:32):
That's a great question. I can't believe I forgot to
say that. Um, no.
S2 (13:35):
That's all right. That's all. I was just thinking about
it because when I played many years ago, we were
on a map, so we felt you were on the
edge of the mat. You knew you were out because
you weren't allowed to space. But I believe there's markings
on the floor.
S4 (13:47):
Yes. So now we have tape with string underneath it,
so you can feel it with your hands or your feet.
And you can orientate yourself to know which way is
straight ahead and which way you want to be throwing
the ball as well. And also like where your positions are.
So there's like the wing lines and the centre line
that you can feel so you know where you are.
S2 (14:07):
Wow.
S4 (14:07):
Yeah.
S2 (14:07):
I didn't know there was positions.
S4 (14:09):
Yeah. Yeah. Fun fact.
S2 (14:11):
So how many people in the full team because you have, um,
subs and interchange or something like that. So how does
it work that way?
S4 (14:18):
Six people on a team. Um, so you have your
starting three, which is usually like you usually the top
three players of the team. And then you have your
three subs and you can interchange them throughout the game
depending on how it's going, of course.
S2 (14:35):
So they can come on and off at any time.
S4 (14:37):
Yeah, yeah. So you can do four subs per game.
S2 (14:40):
Oh, okay. Any four.
S4 (14:41):
Yeah, but it's only two 12 minute halves with stoppages though.
Oh yeah. So it's not long. It's about a 45
minute game all up.
S2 (14:50):
Say it again. Two 12 minute halves.
S4 (14:52):
Yeah. Two 12 minute halves with stoppages.
S2 (14:55):
Because quite a physical game.
S4 (14:56):
It's very physical. Yeah.
S2 (14:58):
Yeah because the ball's quite heavy.
S4 (14:59):
Yeah. It's 1.25 kilos I believe.
S2 (15:02):
Okay.
S4 (15:03):
Could be wrong with that one. So maybe don't quote
me on that. No, but it's heavy.
S2 (15:07):
And how long have you been playing goalball, Caitlin?
S4 (15:09):
I started playing in 2016, and that was my first national,
or maybe my first national since 2017. In Melbourne, I know,
I remember it was Melbourne. I don't remember what year,
maybe 16 or 17 around there. It was about 12
or 13. Um, and yeah, I did it at a
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visibility camp when I was about eight.
S2 (15:33):
Wow.
S4 (15:34):
Yeah, for the first time. And I was like, what
is this? I've never played this in my life. I
kind of just fell in love with it instantly. And
then a few years later, when I got a bit
older and my schedule kind of cleared up a little
bit more, um, I started playing and I was pretty
locked in, and I haven't stopped since.
S2 (15:50):
Wow. That's excellent. Last time we spoke, you were going to.
I think it was the nationals tournament in South Australia. Yep.
And you were actually playing for South Australia?
S4 (16:02):
I was, yeah. We didn't have a women's team in WA,
so I played with the South Australian women's team and
it was really, really good. We actually got gold. Yeah,
it's very exciting. I've never got a gold medal before
so it was like super pumped about that.
S1 (16:15):
Congratulations.
S4 (16:16):
Thank you, thank you.
S2 (16:18):
Well done.
S4 (16:19):
It was very, very exciting.
S2 (16:21):
In a tournament like the nationals, how many games would
you play?
S4 (16:24):
So it's usually over four days and you'd play one
game for the first, depending on the results. Obviously because of, like,
the round robin. But you would play one game for
the first two days, and then the second two days.
You would play two games if you were in the
gold medal matches. So it's pretty, pretty tiring, but it's
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so worth it.
S2 (16:47):
Now, you mentioned that you're really busy, and one of
the reasons you're really busy is that you've got these
university assignments due and you're working on your film, but
you're also going to two goalball tournaments in Europe very soon.
S4 (17:02):
I am, yeah.
S2 (17:03):
That's very exciting. Now, I was doing some research online
last night about these tournaments, and they sound fascinating and
such a great, um, experience you're going to have.
S4 (17:13):
Yeah, I'm very, very excited. So it's it's just I
can't really even believe it. It's going to be so
much fun. So the first one is in Finland in
kind of just outside Helsinki. So that one is a
club tournament. So we're representing South Australia at the moment
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because we we can't obviously represent Australia because it's for
the clubs. Yeah, we've got a whole team, a whole
squad going over.
S2 (17:40):
It's interesting that it's a club tournament. So if we
think about it like in international football terms, it's like
a championships league of clubs rather than it is international.
But it's not. You're not representing the.
S4 (17:53):
The country country.
S2 (17:54):
Representing in this case the team, the club. Now I
want to know why are you playing for South Australia.
S4 (17:59):
We chose South Australia because most of us had already
played for South Australia, and we had all the all
the jerseys and all the gear for it already. Wow.
So yeah, so we just had to order like a
few more jerseys for some of the girls who hadn't
played for South Australia before. And then we're like, that's
good enough because we've all we've all got all the equipment.
So it was just kind of the easiest option for us.
S2 (18:21):
It's the goalball Club World Cup. Yeah. Now that sounds fascinating.
And I really like the concept of a club championship.
S4 (18:29):
Yeah, it takes a lot of pressure off as well,
because a few of the girls that were playing with
haven't had an international tournament before, so it's a really
good first one for them just to like show them
how it works with no like stakes.
S2 (18:42):
Yeah. Not not going to be a selection tournament for.
S4 (18:46):
The.
S2 (18:46):
Paralympics.
S4 (18:47):
Yeah, exactly.
S2 (18:48):
Now goalball is one of the few sports that are
specifically designed for people who are blind or vision impaired.
And it is a sport that goes to the elite
levels in the Paralympics and other other competitions.
S4 (19:02):
It does. Yeah. Yeah.
S2 (19:03):
Is that one of your goals to try and get
into the elite levels?
S4 (19:06):
Yeah. So I would love to get into the Paralympics
one day, ideally in 2028 in LA, um, which is
really actually quite soon. Like when you think about it,
it's like this cycle. So it's very exciting. Um, that's
the ultimate goal working towards the Paralympics.
S2 (19:22):
The Paralympics. And you've been to major tournaments representing Australia
already in goalball?
S4 (19:27):
Yes. When I was in the youth division, I represented
Australia in the Youth World Championships in Brazil and we
got silver, which was absolutely amazing. We just lost to
Turkey because they were just too good, unfortunately. Um, so
that was absolutely awesome. Um, and I went to China
last year with the Australian women's team for kind of
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it wasn't a tournament, but it was a like a
training camp. And we spent two weeks with the Chinese
women teams and their coach training. It was absolutely amazing.
I learnt so, so much and it felt so lucky
to like have so much insight from their coach. Yeah,
because they're a very strong team in China.
S2 (20:10):
What I noticed when I was looking at the clubs
championships coming up in Finland, that some of these European
countries have such strong clubs, like in being Australia, that
we have such a small population. Yeah. Um, it always
strikes me that, um, in the countries that have bigger
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populations and therefore more money and therefore more resources, there
are clubs in Europe that are specifically just for goalball.
S4 (20:43):
Yeah, a lot of the time, like like Turkey, for example,
all the athletes over there, it's their job to play goalball.
So they get paid to play. Yeah. So they live
in like little villages and they train pretty much every day.
They do court training with their coaches. They go to
the gym to strength and conditioning and that's their job.
So that's their that's their life. Goalball is their life.
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And that same in China as well.
S2 (21:07):
Yes.
S4 (21:07):
So they all get paid to play there. But we
unfortunately don't have that luxury in Australia. No, but we
we absolutely make it work. We're doing so well.
S2 (21:15):
Definitely, definitely. Now you're also going to another international tournament,
this time in Sweden. Yeah. That is representing Australia.
S4 (21:24):
Yes. So that is the that's in Malmo. The Lady
Inter Cup which is representing Australia. So that one is
I mean it's not a benchmark tournament. So it's not
a sanctioned tournament. So obviously there's not too much stakes.
But obviously we want to win. We always want to win.
S2 (21:42):
So that tournament is for women.
S4 (21:45):
Yeah. So only only the girls in that one. Yeah.
S2 (21:47):
And I was reading about this online. It's been going
for about 25 years and it's participated by quite a
number of countries. Tell us what's the dates of those
two tournaments. Firstly the club tournament.
S4 (22:01):
So um, from the 22nd of May until the 27th
of May and then the second one is from the
27th or 28th until the 1st of June.
S2 (22:15):
That's a busy time.
S4 (22:16):
Yeah. So we have about a day or so in
between to travel from Helsinki to Sweden. and hopefully do
some sightseeing. That's what I'm really keen for. Yes.
S2 (22:27):
Yeah.
S1 (22:28):
Any specific places you want to go visit?
S4 (22:30):
Not really, because I actually just don't know enough about
the countries, but I'm just happy to look at anything.
I'll just be like, wow, new things.
S2 (22:40):
And we we'll have to get you back in the
studio so you can give us a travel report.
S4 (22:46):
Oh, that's a great idea.
S2 (22:47):
Yeah, we'll we'll find different reasons to get you in.
S4 (22:50):
Yeah. Sounds great.
S2 (22:51):
On a serious note, especially for someone like myself, I
haven't travelled all that much, and it would be really
great to get your experience not only of the tournaments,
but of traveling. And I think people who are listening
would be interested, who haven't had much to do with
people who are blind, what their experiences are like discovering
(23:12):
a new country, let alone the difficulties sometimes you might
face going from one suburb to another suburb in your hometown.
S4 (23:19):
Definitely. I'd be absolutely keen to do that.
S2 (23:21):
When do you fly out?
S4 (23:22):
On the 19th of May. So we land. We fly
all day on the 20th, and then we land. I
believe it's the morning of the 21st. Wow. And we
do a short training session, and then we sleep for, like,
hopefully like 15 hours. Yeah. And then we wake up
and get to it.
S2 (23:43):
Wow. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So I did notice we will
put these, um, descriptions up on our podcast description. But
there are ways of following these tournaments. You just look
them up online.
S4 (23:55):
Facebook has it. And also if you follow the Australian
Bell's Instagram or Facebook, we are constantly posting our updates
on the teams where we're at in the tournaments. So
we'd love to keep our socials very popular. So if
you're interested or intrigued we will be posting on there.
So just like Aussie Bell's Instagram or Facebook.
S2 (24:16):
Yep. Aussie Bell's.
S4 (24:17):
Yep. With b e l l e s.
S2 (24:20):
It's a combined team, but they're under the banner of
South Australia.
S4 (24:23):
Yes. So it is the Australian women's team. It's all us,
all the same girls but under just representing South Australia
instead of Australia.
S2 (24:32):
Very good.
S4 (24:33):
Yeah it's very very very cool.
S2 (24:35):
We look forward to hearing about how all that goes.
What else have you got coming up for this year?
And it sounds quite a lot already.
S4 (24:42):
It is. I've also been get quite getting into my
blind cricket recently. Okay, so um, which I've quite enjoying,
I did a tournament in January for the National Inclusion Championships, um,
which was really, really fun. I played a few women's
games as well, which was I've never played women's cricket
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before and it was really interesting. I had lots of fun.
It was really, really good. And our Australian women's team
have just got back from a what's it called? A series.
S2 (25:13):
Series series in Brisbane against Pakistan.
S4 (25:16):
Against Pakistan. Yeah. And they. Unfortunately the weather kind of
won with that with that series. But um, they did really,
really well. And we had one of our batters make
the first century in women's blind cricket ever.
S2 (25:31):
And a shout out to the two women from WA
that went over to represent Australia. Uh, Nikki and Julie,
well done to you both for being selected. And, um, yeah,
that's a really great progression. And it's good to see
the the women's side of the game progressing alongside the
men's side of the game and getting some recognition and publicity.
S4 (25:54):
Yeah, it was really, really fun to watch. I enjoyed
so much of it. I wasn't there to I did
I got asked to go to the selection camp, but
unfortunately due to my uni commitments I was unable to
make it. So I was watching and cheering on the
girls from home.
S2 (26:11):
That is the um, one of the great benefits of
the internet.
S4 (26:15):
Absolutely.
S2 (26:16):
Everything gets streamed and whatnot these days, including international blind
sports tournaments. And so, Caitlin, we have to finish this
conversation now because time has run away with us. It's
been a pleasure to have you in the studio once again.
Is there anything you'd like to impart with us before
we have to leave?
S4 (26:33):
I just want to say thank you so much for
having me again. I always have so much fun here.
I love chatting.
S2 (26:37):
That's because you're a fun person, Caitlin. Yeah.
S4 (26:40):
Let's face it.
S2 (26:42):
I was really excited to find out about these two
tournaments that you're going on, and I find it fascinating
the way they've structured it. And I think it's great
that a sport like goalball can have a club championships. Yeah.
And it just shows how far we've come over time
and that those kinds of sports can stand alone.
S4 (27:04):
Yeah, it's so exciting and I'm so lucky to be
a part of it as well. I'm very, very grateful
for that.
S2 (27:10):
Yeah, well, we wish you well with both those tournaments. And, uh,
we know that you'll represent yourself well, and we know
that you'll represent the country well. And, uh, let's let's, uh,
look forward to, um, following that online as the tournament's progress.
S4 (27:25):
Thank you so much.
S2 (27:27):
Well, thanks for coming in. Katelyn. Look forward to speaking
to you again sometime very soon.
S4 (27:30):
Absolutely.
S1 (27:39):
That concludes in Plain Sight for this week. Join us.
Abby Green and Simon Chong at the same time next
week on Vision Australia Radio VA radio digital and online
at VA radio. You can also listen on demand by
searching for In Plain Sight wherever you get your podcasts,
or ask your smart device to play in Plain sight
(28:01):
by Vision Australia Radio. Thanks for listening.
Hi I'm Abby.
S2 (00:10):
I'm Simon, and welcome to. In Plain Sight, a program
where we highlight people who are making a positive impact
within their community and the disability sector.
S1 (00:19):
Shining a light on those who might otherwise be hidden
in plain sight.
S2 (00:24):
And we share these stories on a weekly basis with
you here on Vision Australia Radio. Hello everyone, and hello
to my co-host and producer, Abby Green. Hello, Abby.
S1 (00:33):
Hi, Simon. How are you?
S2 (00:35):
I'm great. Abby, how are you going?
S1 (00:37):
I'm alive. That's good.
S2 (00:39):
Good to hear, good to hear. And, um, it's great
to be in the studio once again. It's the highlight
of my week to chat with you, Abby, and also
to find out about these great, interesting people that we
get to talk to on a weekly basis here on
In Plain Sight on Vision Australia Radio.
S1 (00:55):
Yes. Any excuse to talk. That's what I say. Indeed. And, uh,
100 K your way is just finished up. So how
did you go, Simon?
S2 (01:05):
I really enjoyed the process. Um. And I'm really pleased
and proud to say that I reached one of my goals,
which was to raise $1,000 for the for Vision Australia,
and I nearly completed my fitness walking goal. Well, I
didn't really. I was a fair bit short of it.
S1 (01:24):
How many how many days did you end up walking?
S2 (01:26):
So my goal was to try and walk 100km in
the month of April, and I walked about 70.
S1 (01:33):
Wow.
S2 (01:34):
But one thing I did learn a lot whilst participating
in this event, a great fundraising event for Vision Australia
was to join in the team for one and all
the other was to take note of how much exercise
that I do and to track it and to acknowledge
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that exercise doesn't just come. It's like everything. It has
to be scheduled in and made part of my day.
And the reason why I fell a little bit short
of my goal was that I didn't schedule in every day,
at least the minimum 20 minutes to 30 minute day walk,
and I'm going to try to be more motivated and
(02:20):
continue with that. So it was a great event. I'm
really glad to participate in it, and I look forward
to participating in again next year. And I'd like to
take this opportunity to thank all my supporters and well
wishers and everyone who donated to my fundraising page. And
thank you everyone for donating to Vision Australia in general,
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because it helps in everything that we do.
S1 (02:43):
Yeah, it was it was a great initiative. Uh, amazing work.
70 is still a lot. And you reached your goal,
which is making a difference. $1,000 can still go a
long way.
S2 (02:53):
Indeed it can. And we hope to go a long
way with this program. And we are really rapt and
excited and pleased to be part of Vision Australia Radio.
S1 (03:02):
Yes. And I just want to repeat to everybody that
any feedback that you have, or if you even want
to come on the show, make sure to give us
a an email. Our email address is in plain sight
at Vision Australia. Org that's in plain sight at Vision Australia. Org.
We'd really love to hear from you.
S2 (03:24):
Exactly what are we talking about this week, Abby?
S1 (03:28):
Well, we wanted to make mention that Global Accessibility Awareness
Day is coming up on May 15th.
S2 (03:35):
It's a day where we take stock of where we're
at within global accessibility, within the digital world in particular,
because as we know, everything these days revolves around being online.
And here at Vision Australia Radio, we work within the
world of providing access to people who are blind or
(03:58):
have low vision. And this extends into the digital world
as well. And as we recently were talking to our guest,
Jade Abbott, a few weeks ago, things can be made
a lot easier for the blind and vision impaired online
just by giving a little description of the picture, or
being careful with what words you use. And just to.
(04:19):
When you're creating a website, take into consideration the whole
spectrum of what is required for the broader audience that
you might be trying to attract, in that some of
us have difficulty reading. Some of us have difficulty seeing,
and some of us have difficulty in hearing. And you
can take that into consideration and make it more inclusive
and accessible for everybody. And that's what Global Accessibility Day
(04:44):
is all about. And we wanted to give a nod
and shout out to these interesting and important days in
our calendar.
S1 (04:52):
Yeah, it's it's all about creating digital accessibility and promoting
that awareness. And it even extends to this radio station,
which allows blind and vision impaired people to still get
the information they need. The election that has just gone
by was actually aired on the radio station. So again,
that's about accessibility and inclusion and making sure that everyone's
(05:15):
involved and everyone's got the same access. So I think
that that was really good. And I was involved in
some of that election reporting, which was pretty cool as well.
So yeah.
S2 (05:25):
Yeah, well done to everyone involved with that and to
the Vision Australia radio and to all the journalists who
contributed to our broadcast of the election and the election results.
Thank you.
S1 (05:38):
Now moving along today we're going to be speaking to
Caitlyn Hannon. Williams. Now we've spoken to her before our
previous episode, we first talked to her and was called
balls with Bells. So make sure to look back at that.
That was in the previous that was last year and
the previous season two. So definitely make sure to check
(05:58):
that one out.
S2 (05:59):
Yes, we're talking to Caitlin again today. One is because
she's a fabulous person to talk with. But second, she
is going to two major goalball tournaments in Europe and
we find out all about that. And just to note
that these people who are representing Australia for this particular sport,
as is the case for a lot of amateur sports
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in Australia, these people are paying their own way to
go over and represent their country and to play this
fabulous game. And my hat goes off to them and
to everyone that's supported them. To get this far and
to play this fabulous game of goalball, which is a
big deal in some countries, and we want to promote
it here at Vision Australia Radio, and we wish everyone
(06:44):
involved the best of luck.
S1 (06:46):
Yes, and in the podcast description, we'll include all the
dates of the tournaments and a link to the Facebook
page so you can follow along. So we'll hear from
Caitlin now.
S3 (06:55):
Thank you.
S1 (06:58):
Today we're going to be talking to Caitlin Hannon Williams
who is studying a Bachelor of Arts. So welcome Caitlin
and welcome her guide dog Rennie.
S4 (07:08):
Yeah. Welcome, Rennie.
S2 (07:10):
Hi, Caitlin.
S4 (07:11):
Hi, Simon.
S2 (07:11):
How you doing?
S4 (07:12):
Yeah. Doing well. Very busy.
S2 (07:14):
Very busy. Yeah. I'm sure I'm really, um, talking about
being busy. I'm really appreciative that you could come in
and speak with us today. You were one of our
most favorite guests because you're a lively, interesting person and
you've got so much going on. And it was so
fun to talk to you last time that we thought
we'd definitely have to have you in again. And just
to remind everyone that you can go back and listen
(07:36):
to the interview we did with Caitlin previously, but we're
going to refresh people's minds about what Caitlin's up to. So, Caitlin,
you're studying at Curtin University? What are you studying there?
S4 (07:46):
So I'm in my third year of a Bachelor of
Creative Arts, so I'm almost done. It's very stressful, but
going well. Lots of fun.
S2 (07:54):
What are some of the major projects you're working on
at the moment at uni?
S4 (07:57):
So for all the third year students, we do a
major film. Yeah. Which we do over the span of
the entire year. So in the first semester we focus
on all the pre-production. So like getting actors, locations, all
that kind of stuff. And then we make a pilot
episode and then we. Yeah, we kind of like, get
(08:19):
critiqued on the pilot. And then in the second semester,
we make the whole film, which is usually about like
5 to 7 ish minutes. So it's not long, but
it also is really long at the same time. So
lots of filming, lots of work behind the scenes as well.
But it's really, really fun.
S2 (08:34):
I bet. And can you give us an insight into
what your role is within this filmmaking, and can you
give us a hint of what your film was about?
S4 (08:43):
Yes. So my film is called Tumble Dry.
S2 (08:46):
Tumble dry.
S4 (08:46):
Tumble Dry. Yeah. Um, and it was written by one
of my fellow students. It's a really, really good script.
I don't know if I can give it justice by
explaining it like this, but it is really good. It's
set in a laundromat, and there's these two sisters, and
one of them is about ten, and she she loses
her one of her little plastic pony toys, and she
(09:07):
thinks that it's gone into the washing machine. That's like
the basic premise. Okay, that's like our pilot scene. And
my role in the project is a sound designer. So
I'm focusing on, like recording all the audio, helping in
post-production with, like, making the washing machine sounds, all that
kind of stuff. So yeah, that's my role. It's lots
(09:28):
of fun.
S2 (09:28):
I.
S4 (09:29):
Bet. Very busy. Great.
S1 (09:31):
And where can we watch the film?
S4 (09:32):
So once they're finished, which will be at the end
of the year. So probably about November ish. Um, they
will be put into the curtain raiser film festival, and
there will be awards and all kinds of events, and
you can watch it there. Or depending on funding, we
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may be able to put it into other film festivals.
S2 (09:58):
Excellent.
S4 (09:59):
Yeah, it's very exciting.
S2 (10:00):
Tell us about how you go about creating the sounds
for a film, like, do you actually record a tumble dryer,
or do you have to create that with a computer,
or what they used to call follies in, you know,
how how would you make how do you add those
sound effects and so forth in this type of environment?
S4 (10:19):
There's kind of like I can do all of the above,
but mostly what I find easiest is to record the
sounds like as like diegetic audio. So like just if
you hear a washing machine, I'm like putting the mic
and I'm recording that sound of the washing machine or
like the buttons being pressed and the coins being put
into the slot. The coin slot. Yeah. So I kind
(10:41):
of like to record on set or even as just
like Wilde's, which is like isolated recordings. So usually you
do that with the actors if they're like, have to
grunt or like breathe heavily because you kind of can't
really get that on set in, like on location. So
kind of do that as Wilde's. But um, also for
the sound design, which is that's more in post-production. So
(11:03):
we use a whole bunch of software and you can
combine a whole bunch of sounds that you record to
create a new sound. So that's kind of like the
sound design aspect of the role. Um, since it's quite
a simple film sound wise, like there's not waves crashing
or there's not like planes that I need to, like, fabricate.
(11:25):
And it's all like set indoors. So there's not really
too much to do in that aspect of the film. But, um,
lots of recording on set of the sounds and then
just combining them together to create like an environment.
S2 (11:39):
Yeah, I really find it fascinating, um, especially since I've
been doing some audio work myself. How these things are
created and get a bit of an insight into the
behind the scenes of how things are put together. It's fascinating.
S4 (11:55):
It's lots of fun. I absolutely love it. And it's
so good that, like, my role on set is basically
just to put headphones on and just listen to people.
S2 (12:03):
Okay.
S4 (12:03):
Like, I just it's so good. I find it so fun.
I can just eavesdrop on everyone.
S2 (12:09):
Have you ever done any field recording? Just creating a
purely audio piece?
S4 (12:14):
I have, yeah. In first year we did an assignment
where it was just a soundscape, so we had to
like tell a story only using sounds, which was really,
really fun, actually. I had lots of fun.
S2 (12:23):
I made one of those.
S4 (12:24):
Yeah, it's so cool.
S2 (12:26):
How much further do you have to go on your
studies at uni?
S4 (12:29):
I'm part time this year because I've got a lot
of travelling with goalball.
S2 (12:33):
Yeah, we'll get to that in a minute.
S4 (12:34):
Yeah, there's a lot going on. So I was like,
I'm going to drop down to part time. So I've
got this year part time and next year part time
and then I'm all done. So not long to go.
S2 (12:42):
I'm glad to see you putting your priorities right. Representing
yourself and the country and and your chosen sport now
going on from there. The chosen sport that you play
is goalball. Yeah. Now we should remind people what goalball is.
Can you just give us, like, a really quick rundown
of what goalball is? Caitlin.
S4 (12:59):
Yeah. Goalball is a sport made for blind and vision
impaired people. And it's played with a ball with bells
in it so you can hear it and everyone. It's
kind of like on a basketball sized court, and everyone
on the court is fully blindfolded, and you throw the
ball underarm from one side to the other and you
stop it from getting in like soccer type goals with
your body. So like, you block it with your body
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from getting into the goals.
S2 (13:22):
And there's three people in each team. Yeah. On the
court at one time.
S4 (13:25):
Yeah.
S2 (13:25):
So you're all blindfolded. The ball's got bells. How do
you know where you are? Within the court space itself?
S4 (13:32):
That's a great question. I can't believe I forgot to
say that. Um, no.
S2 (13:35):
That's all right. That's all. I was just thinking about
it because when I played many years ago, we were
on a map, so we felt you were on the
edge of the mat. You knew you were out because
you weren't allowed to space. But I believe there's markings
on the floor.
S4 (13:47):
Yes. So now we have tape with string underneath it,
so you can feel it with your hands or your feet.
And you can orientate yourself to know which way is
straight ahead and which way you want to be throwing
the ball as well. And also like where your positions are.
So there's like the wing lines and the centre line
that you can feel so you know where you are.
S2 (14:07):
Wow.
S4 (14:07):
Yeah.
S2 (14:07):
I didn't know there was positions.
S4 (14:09):
Yeah. Yeah. Fun fact.
S2 (14:11):
So how many people in the full team because you have, um,
subs and interchange or something like that. So how does
it work that way?
S4 (14:18):
Six people on a team. Um, so you have your
starting three, which is usually like you usually the top
three players of the team. And then you have your
three subs and you can interchange them throughout the game
depending on how it's going, of course.
S2 (14:35):
So they can come on and off at any time.
S4 (14:37):
Yeah, yeah. So you can do four subs per game.
S2 (14:40):
Oh, okay. Any four.
S4 (14:41):
Yeah, but it's only two 12 minute halves with stoppages though.
Oh yeah. So it's not long. It's about a 45
minute game all up.
S2 (14:50):
Say it again. Two 12 minute halves.
S4 (14:52):
Yeah. Two 12 minute halves with stoppages.
S2 (14:55):
Because quite a physical game.
S4 (14:56):
It's very physical. Yeah.
S2 (14:58):
Yeah because the ball's quite heavy.
S4 (14:59):
Yeah. It's 1.25 kilos I believe.
S2 (15:02):
Okay.
S4 (15:03):
Could be wrong with that one. So maybe don't quote
me on that. No, but it's heavy.
S2 (15:07):
And how long have you been playing goalball, Caitlin?
S4 (15:09):
I started playing in 2016, and that was my first national,
or maybe my first national since 2017. In Melbourne, I know,
I remember it was Melbourne. I don't remember what year,
maybe 16 or 17 around there. It was about 12
or 13. Um, and yeah, I did it at a
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visibility camp when I was about eight.
S2 (15:33):
Wow.
S4 (15:34):
Yeah, for the first time. And I was like, what
is this? I've never played this in my life. I
kind of just fell in love with it instantly. And
then a few years later, when I got a bit
older and my schedule kind of cleared up a little
bit more, um, I started playing and I was pretty
locked in, and I haven't stopped since.
S2 (15:50):
Wow. That's excellent. Last time we spoke, you were going to.
I think it was the nationals tournament in South Australia. Yep.
And you were actually playing for South Australia?
S4 (16:02):
I was, yeah. We didn't have a women's team in WA,
so I played with the South Australian women's team and
it was really, really good. We actually got gold. Yeah,
it's very exciting. I've never got a gold medal before
so it was like super pumped about that.
S1 (16:15):
Congratulations.
S4 (16:16):
Thank you, thank you.
S2 (16:18):
Well done.
S4 (16:19):
It was very, very exciting.
S2 (16:21):
In a tournament like the nationals, how many games would
you play?
S4 (16:24):
So it's usually over four days and you'd play one
game for the first, depending on the results. Obviously because of, like,
the round robin. But you would play one game for
the first two days, and then the second two days.
You would play two games if you were in the
gold medal matches. So it's pretty, pretty tiring, but it's
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so worth it.
S2 (16:47):
Now, you mentioned that you're really busy, and one of
the reasons you're really busy is that you've got these
university assignments due and you're working on your film, but
you're also going to two goalball tournaments in Europe very soon.
S4 (17:02):
I am, yeah.
S2 (17:03):
That's very exciting. Now, I was doing some research online
last night about these tournaments, and they sound fascinating and
such a great, um, experience you're going to have.
S4 (17:13):
Yeah, I'm very, very excited. So it's it's just I
can't really even believe it. It's going to be so
much fun. So the first one is in Finland in
kind of just outside Helsinki. So that one is a
club tournament. So we're representing South Australia at the moment
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because we we can't obviously represent Australia because it's for
the clubs. Yeah, we've got a whole team, a whole
squad going over.
S2 (17:40):
It's interesting that it's a club tournament. So if we
think about it like in international football terms, it's like
a championships league of clubs rather than it is international.
But it's not. You're not representing the.
S4 (17:53):
The country country.
S2 (17:54):
Representing in this case the team, the club. Now I
want to know why are you playing for South Australia.
S4 (17:59):
We chose South Australia because most of us had already
played for South Australia, and we had all the all
the jerseys and all the gear for it already. Wow.
So yeah, so we just had to order like a
few more jerseys for some of the girls who hadn't
played for South Australia before. And then we're like, that's
good enough because we've all we've all got all the equipment.
So it was just kind of the easiest option for us.
S2 (18:21):
It's the goalball Club World Cup. Yeah. Now that sounds fascinating.
And I really like the concept of a club championship.
S4 (18:29):
Yeah, it takes a lot of pressure off as well,
because a few of the girls that were playing with
haven't had an international tournament before, so it's a really
good first one for them just to like show them
how it works with no like stakes.
S2 (18:42):
Yeah. Not not going to be a selection tournament for.
S4 (18:46):
The.
S2 (18:46):
Paralympics.
S4 (18:47):
Yeah, exactly.
S2 (18:48):
Now goalball is one of the few sports that are
specifically designed for people who are blind or vision impaired.
And it is a sport that goes to the elite
levels in the Paralympics and other other competitions.
S4 (19:02):
It does. Yeah. Yeah.
S2 (19:03):
Is that one of your goals to try and get
into the elite levels?
S4 (19:06):
Yeah. So I would love to get into the Paralympics
one day, ideally in 2028 in LA, um, which is
really actually quite soon. Like when you think about it,
it's like this cycle. So it's very exciting. Um, that's
the ultimate goal working towards the Paralympics.
S2 (19:22):
The Paralympics. And you've been to major tournaments representing Australia
already in goalball?
S4 (19:27):
Yes. When I was in the youth division, I represented
Australia in the Youth World Championships in Brazil and we
got silver, which was absolutely amazing. We just lost to
Turkey because they were just too good, unfortunately. Um, so
that was absolutely awesome. Um, and I went to China
last year with the Australian women's team for kind of
(19:50):
it wasn't a tournament, but it was a like a
training camp. And we spent two weeks with the Chinese
women teams and their coach training. It was absolutely amazing.
I learnt so, so much and it felt so lucky
to like have so much insight from their coach. Yeah,
because they're a very strong team in China.
S2 (20:10):
What I noticed when I was looking at the clubs
championships coming up in Finland, that some of these European
countries have such strong clubs, like in being Australia, that
we have such a small population. Yeah. Um, it always
strikes me that, um, in the countries that have bigger
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populations and therefore more money and therefore more resources, there
are clubs in Europe that are specifically just for goalball.
S4 (20:43):
Yeah, a lot of the time, like like Turkey, for example,
all the athletes over there, it's their job to play goalball.
So they get paid to play. Yeah. So they live
in like little villages and they train pretty much every day.
They do court training with their coaches. They go to
the gym to strength and conditioning and that's their job.
So that's their that's their life. Goalball is their life.
(21:05):
And that same in China as well.
S2 (21:07):
Yes.
S4 (21:07):
So they all get paid to play there. But we
unfortunately don't have that luxury in Australia. No, but we
we absolutely make it work. We're doing so well.
S2 (21:15):
Definitely, definitely. Now you're also going to another international tournament,
this time in Sweden. Yeah. That is representing Australia.
S4 (21:24):
Yes. So that is the that's in Malmo. The Lady
Inter Cup which is representing Australia. So that one is
I mean it's not a benchmark tournament. So it's not
a sanctioned tournament. So obviously there's not too much stakes.
But obviously we want to win. We always want to win.
S2 (21:42):
So that tournament is for women.
S4 (21:45):
Yeah. So only only the girls in that one. Yeah.
S2 (21:47):
And I was reading about this online. It's been going
for about 25 years and it's participated by quite a
number of countries. Tell us what's the dates of those
two tournaments. Firstly the club tournament.
S4 (22:01):
So um, from the 22nd of May until the 27th
of May and then the second one is from the
27th or 28th until the 1st of June.
S2 (22:15):
That's a busy time.
S4 (22:16):
Yeah. So we have about a day or so in
between to travel from Helsinki to Sweden. and hopefully do
some sightseeing. That's what I'm really keen for. Yes.
S2 (22:27):
Yeah.
S1 (22:28):
Any specific places you want to go visit?
S4 (22:30):
Not really, because I actually just don't know enough about
the countries, but I'm just happy to look at anything.
I'll just be like, wow, new things.
S2 (22:40):
And we we'll have to get you back in the
studio so you can give us a travel report.
S4 (22:46):
Oh, that's a great idea.
S2 (22:47):
Yeah, we'll we'll find different reasons to get you in.
S4 (22:50):
Yeah. Sounds great.
S2 (22:51):
On a serious note, especially for someone like myself, I
haven't travelled all that much, and it would be really
great to get your experience not only of the tournaments,
but of traveling. And I think people who are listening
would be interested, who haven't had much to do with
people who are blind, what their experiences are like discovering
(23:12):
a new country, let alone the difficulties sometimes you might
face going from one suburb to another suburb in your hometown.
S4 (23:19):
Definitely. I'd be absolutely keen to do that.
S2 (23:21):
When do you fly out?
S4 (23:22):
On the 19th of May. So we land. We fly
all day on the 20th, and then we land. I
believe it's the morning of the 21st. Wow. And we
do a short training session, and then we sleep for, like,
hopefully like 15 hours. Yeah. And then we wake up
and get to it.
S2 (23:43):
Wow. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So I did notice we will
put these, um, descriptions up on our podcast description. But
there are ways of following these tournaments. You just look
them up online.
S4 (23:55):
Facebook has it. And also if you follow the Australian
Bell's Instagram or Facebook, we are constantly posting our updates
on the teams where we're at in the tournaments. So
we'd love to keep our socials very popular. So if
you're interested or intrigued we will be posting on there.
So just like Aussie Bell's Instagram or Facebook.
S2 (24:16):
Yep. Aussie Bell's.
S4 (24:17):
Yep. With b e l l e s.
S2 (24:20):
It's a combined team, but they're under the banner of
South Australia.
S4 (24:23):
Yes. So it is the Australian women's team. It's all us,
all the same girls but under just representing South Australia
instead of Australia.
S2 (24:32):
Very good.
S4 (24:33):
Yeah it's very very very cool.
S2 (24:35):
We look forward to hearing about how all that goes.
What else have you got coming up for this year?
And it sounds quite a lot already.
S4 (24:42):
It is. I've also been get quite getting into my
blind cricket recently. Okay, so um, which I've quite enjoying,
I did a tournament in January for the National Inclusion Championships, um,
which was really, really fun. I played a few women's
games as well, which was I've never played women's cricket
(25:02):
before and it was really interesting. I had lots of fun.
It was really, really good. And our Australian women's team
have just got back from a what's it called? A series.
S2 (25:13):
Series series in Brisbane against Pakistan.
S4 (25:16):
Against Pakistan. Yeah. And they. Unfortunately the weather kind of
won with that with that series. But um, they did really,
really well. And we had one of our batters make
the first century in women's blind cricket ever.
S2 (25:31):
And a shout out to the two women from WA
that went over to represent Australia. Uh, Nikki and Julie,
well done to you both for being selected. And, um, yeah,
that's a really great progression. And it's good to see
the the women's side of the game progressing alongside the
men's side of the game and getting some recognition and publicity.
S4 (25:54):
Yeah, it was really, really fun to watch. I enjoyed
so much of it. I wasn't there to I did
I got asked to go to the selection camp, but
unfortunately due to my uni commitments I was unable to
make it. So I was watching and cheering on the
girls from home.
S2 (26:11):
That is the um, one of the great benefits of
the internet.
S4 (26:15):
Absolutely.
S2 (26:16):
Everything gets streamed and whatnot these days, including international blind
sports tournaments. And so, Caitlin, we have to finish this
conversation now because time has run away with us. It's
been a pleasure to have you in the studio once again.
Is there anything you'd like to impart with us before
we have to leave?
S4 (26:33):
I just want to say thank you so much for
having me again. I always have so much fun here.
I love chatting.
S2 (26:37):
That's because you're a fun person, Caitlin. Yeah.
S4 (26:40):
Let's face it.
S2 (26:42):
I was really excited to find out about these two
tournaments that you're going on, and I find it fascinating
the way they've structured it. And I think it's great
that a sport like goalball can have a club championships. Yeah.
And it just shows how far we've come over time
and that those kinds of sports can stand alone.
S4 (27:04):
Yeah, it's so exciting and I'm so lucky to be
a part of it as well. I'm very, very grateful
for that.
S2 (27:10):
Yeah, well, we wish you well with both those tournaments. And, uh,
we know that you'll represent yourself well, and we know
that you'll represent the country well. And, uh, let's let's, uh,
look forward to, um, following that online as the tournament's progress.
S4 (27:25):
Thank you so much.
S2 (27:27):
Well, thanks for coming in. Katelyn. Look forward to speaking
to you again sometime very soon.
S4 (27:30):
Absolutely.
S1 (27:39):
That concludes in Plain Sight for this week. Join us.
Abby Green and Simon Chong at the same time next
week on Vision Australia Radio VA radio digital and online
at VA radio. You can also listen on demand by
searching for In Plain Sight wherever you get your podcasts,
or ask your smart device to play in Plain sight
(28:01):
by Vision Australia Radio. Thanks for listening.
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