August 14, 2025 • 37 mins
The final weekend of the State Fair, plus updates from Hoosiers Feeding the Hungry and the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Well, I couldn't be any more excited to bring you
the Indiana Outdoor Show. I your host, Brian Pointer, so
great to visit with you each and every week we
bring you the Indiana Outdoor Show. Today last big weekend
of the Indiana State Fair. So hard to believe that
we are done with that, but I'm sure there's a
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lot of fun folks saying, man, this thing lasted a
long time because it's a long run. But a little
later on in the show, we're going to have our
last update from Connie Hudson, who has been so good
for us providing information. I always recommend people make sure
that you go to the DNR website for all the
activities that are taking place around the pavilion. And this
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weekend we're going to find out what Connie's got in store,
find out if she's found any new fair food that's
always important. We're also going to visit with Susie Jordan,
Whosier's Feeding the Hungry, great organization absolutely on a different
plane and doing such great work serving citizens and local communities.
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And we're going to find out what you need to
know because she's got a big event coming up along
with a little bit more intel on the who's your's
feeding the hungry? This is National Shooting Sports Month and
we're going to visit with Lee the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
Chris Aho's your native and regular guest here on Indiana Outdoors.
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We're going to find out some of the issues, not
just in Indiana, but what this trade association for the
firearms industry is dealing with as we are already well
you know, we're halfway through the year, let's just say,
and legislatures. He deals with a lot of them. I
want to find out what's going on in some of
the other places around the United States and in the
Midwest and get some updates on Indiana. So as you
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We're making progress as foretold foreshadowed at the beginning of
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the show, it is National Shooting Sports Month and I
always love to talk about that topic and no better
organization to do that than the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
And with me at this time is regular contributor Cristallye.
It's been a while since you and I have had
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an opportunity. But for those that may first of all,
have you been it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I've been well, but it's good to be back with you.
It's been too long. We need to do this more often.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yes, indeed, it's on my list. We're going to make
that a priority this year. And arounding the corner. But
the National Shooting Sports Foundation, you've had a long tenure there.
But for those that may not be familiar with that,
tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
NSSF National Shooting Sports Foundation is the trade association for
the firearm industry. So a lot of people think of
your two AA groups like the NRA, and those groups
represent gun owners, but NSSF is the only trade association
for the industry. We've been around since nineteen sixty one
and today we represent about ten thousand firearm industry companies
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across the country. It's a great industry. I'm happy to
work in it. And actually today I think a lot
of your listeners would be surprised to hear, but three
hundred and eighty three thousand people in America are employed
by the gun industry. Here in Indiana we have fifty
fifty five hundred Hoosier's work in the gun industry. So
it's a significant impact and we're proud of the work
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we do. But yeah, I've been with NSUCCESS for five
years and thrilled to be here working on behalf of
the industry, and in Indiana. I'm a native Hoosier as
you know, love Indiana.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, it's interesting when we always talk about the economic impact,
whether it's fishing or hunting or whatever. The shooting sports
absolutely one of those that makes economic impact, not only
for the jobs and other things, but nationally the impact.
And then when you break it down like you did
for Indiana, I hadn't realized that there were that many
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people associated with the industry in Indiana alone. But it
doesn't surprise me. I mean, it's one of the most
The shooting sports in general has just gone crazy, and
you could probably lay lay a cause for whatever you wish,
But what makes you feel like shooting sports today are
more popular than ever?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think you just have a.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Lot of people that during COVID were really sparked and
really wanted to spend more time outdoors. You know, naturally
during a pandemic, people want to spend more time outdoors.
And people went out to gun ranges all over this
country and they enjoyed their time at the range or
out hunting with their friends. And we had a lot
of people that were engaged in the shooting sports or
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re engaged and they've stuck with it. And we're thrilled
to really celebrate the shooting sports again this year.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And I guess we.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Can go into a National Shooting Sports Month and how
that came about and what we do with that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So and the.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Success owns National Shooting Sports Month where the primary supporter
and organizer of it, but we have a lot of
partners from gun manufacturers to gun shops to local DNRS,
State DNRS that partner with US and essentially National Shooting
Sports National Shooting Sports Month.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's just a.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Time for people to take take part in their second
mimic rights, to go to the range, take new people
to the range, and get more people involved in their
shooting sport activities.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That so many people love.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And as part of this, we work with a lot
of our members, you know, like I said, ten thousand
member companies across the country. We engage with them and
encourage them to put on specials either at their range
or at their gun shops to encourage people to go
out and get involved. So you'll see special activities, special promotions.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
You and your.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Listeners can find out a lot about a lot of
those at Shooting Sports Months dot org.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's Shooting Sportsmonth dot org.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But year round, NSSAFF works hard to make.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Sure that people continue to be engaged in the.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Shooting sports And we have another website that people can
use outside of Shooting Sports Month is Let's Go shooting
dot org, and I'd encourage people to go there year
round too, especially new shooters. It's a great resource for
new shooters. But a big thing here in Indiana that
I'm happy to talk about is that we got to
proclamation from Governor Brown declaring this to be Indiana Shooting
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Sports Month here in Indiana, and at the federal level,
President Trump issued an official decoration, official message declaring this
to be National Shooting Sports Month across the country.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
So we typically have several governors.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think this year we had about twenty governors that
declared it to be Shooting Sports Month in their respective states.
But as you can imagine, it's not surprising here. But
under the abiding administration, we never got that presidential message.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So it's nice to be back this.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Year with a presidential message and recognition that this is
Shooting Sports Month and that it's an important pastime, important
activity for a country.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
To partake in.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I did not realize that, so that is good news.
I did not realize that that national proclamation. Of course,
we have a two A friendly administration, and it doesn't
surprise me, not only here in Indiana but nationally so
as the person that kind of oversees in works with
our state legislatures, I don't know how you possibly have
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the patients to do that. But what are some of
the initiatives, what are some of the people saying what
are the what's the vibe in the state houses that
you deal with on two A issues?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Now, yeah, I'm just I should have gone over my
role for the industry, but working on behalf of NSSS,
I lobby across the Midwest, So I'm the Midwest Director
of State Affairs.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And in the past I had nine states.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
At most most points in my career within a success
that I lobbied. But this year we expanded our state
team and now I'm fortunate to be able to focus.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
My time in six states.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And I live in Indiana, and Indiana's one of the
six states that I cover. And you know, the issues
that we work on very state to state. In some
states were playing defense and states where they're the states
the state legislatures and it was friendly to the industry,
and other states, we try to make progress and try
to make the state a more friendly place for the
firearm industry to make home to continue to grow. So
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we continue to provide for the Second Miendment rights of
the people in those states and here in Indiana. A
big part of that is really I don't want to
give away our specifics for next session, but we have
a couple areas where we just want to make progress
in making Indiana's hunting regulations and fire and purchase regulations
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a little bit more clear for the dealer.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
There are a couple areas in law that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We found aren't entirely clear for the FFL, and we
want it to be as clear as possible. So we're
going to look to clear up some language next year.
But you know, in the past, we've had a couple
of big priorities.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
One has been pushing.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Back on de banking against the gun industry, which has
been a huge issue.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That is a major issue, and it doesn't get enough
press explain what d banking means.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Right, So starting in twenty sixteen, about a decade ago,
we had a push from the federal government under President
Biden or I guess it before. It was just before
President Trump. It was under the Obama administration. But there's
a push to get big banks to de bank the
fire arm industry, and really it was a push at
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gun control without going through the legislature. If you can
get big the big banks to cut off financing to
gun companies, then gun companies can't continue to grow, they
can't continue to thrive, and that was the goal of
the Obama administration. It was called the Operation choke Point
back then, and unfortunately, a lot of banks went along
with that that goal in that policy, and they said
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that we were a reputational risk. Working with the fire
arm industry was a reputational risk, and they were going
to cut off services to the gun industry. It became
one of the biggest issues over the last decade. Even
after President Obama left office and when President Trump was
in office, the big banks just continued to do this
on their own without direction from the federal government.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
They gave into.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Activist shareholders and just cut off financing, cut off credit services,
cut off in surants, really across the board. We even
had trucking companies cut off services to the gun industry.
Some of the big trucking companies the seed going down
the highway right now still today won't work with the
gun industry. And it was all part of this we
call it debanking. But it became broader, obviously if we're
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talking trucking, gun insurance, and unfortunately, a huge, huge, So
we started to work across the state to push back
on that with various bills. But we called it the
Firearm Industry Non Discrimination Act is what it became known as,
and essentially what we said in these bills generally was
that if a company has a policy of boycotting the
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gun industry and Second Amendment, then the state shouldn't grant
contracts to those companies.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So we want to be free market people.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
We're not trying to tell companies that they have to
work with the gun industry, but if they're boycotting the
entire gun industry and the Second Amendment, then state contracts
in a lot of states shouldn't be going to those companies.
So we've hashed bills like that in Florida, Texas, Oklahoma
just had a ceremonial signing a few weeks to go.
So almost a dozen states have laws in the boat
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right now. Let's say that if you boycott the gun industry,
state contracts will not go to you.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
And so that's an issue that we worked on.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And then another issue specific to Indiana, and I think
we talked about this last time I was on too,
but here in Indiana we have a lawsuit out of Gary,
Indiana against the gun industry that's been going on now
for twenty six years. And Gary, back in nineteen ninety
nine colluded with other big cities and said, instead of
blaming the criminals for the crime in our cities, we're
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going to go after the gun industry. Even in situations
where the gun industry didn't break any laws, followed the laws,
they were just trying to pass a blame onto us
through lawsuits. And the Gary, Indiana lawsuit today is the
only one of I believe it was almost forty lawsuits
filed between nineteen ninet nine and two thousand, Gary, Indiana
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is the only one still active today. So the legislature
fortunately did act in the twenty twenty fourth session.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
We worked with them and.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They passed the law that said that the state is
the only government body in Indiana that has the right
to file a lawsuit against the gun industry for any reason.
And we hope, obviously, the courts move slowly, as you know,
that lawsuit actually twenty six years, it's pretty pretty darn slow.
So hopefully that lawsuit will we'll go away soon and
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the courts will act.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
And honestly, a.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Big frustration for me is that that lawsuit's been a
deterrent for companies in the gun industry looking to move
out of the Northeast and out of Illinois, and there
a lot of them are skipping over Indiana because of
that lawsuit, and it's frustrating for me. I'd love to
see our great gun companies move here to Indiana.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So I'm hoping that lawsuit will go.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Away after the legislature took action in twenty twenty four
and we'll see on that. But those are just some
examples of some issues that we in the gun industry
work on that might might not be your traditional issues
like constitutional carry, that we be more of a gun
owner issue that the NRA and groups like them work on.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Chris Lee is with us with the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
This is National and State Shooting Month, Shooting Sports Month
in this month, so we are grateful that all of
this is being done and handled by you and the
great folks at the nss F. Shot Show. Real quick,
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how'd shot Show go?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And what are you looking for every year?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I look forward a shot show every year.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
For your listeners that aren't aware, a shot Show is
the world's largest show devoted to the firearm industry. It's
a trade show, so you have to be a part
of the industry to go. But it's actually and you
might not know this or you might, but shot Show
is one of the ten largest trade shows in the
entire country. And we're talking like we're going up against automobiles, cabinets,
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you know when you're talking about trade show. Yeah, yeah, technology,
that's a big one. Where the eighth we're technically the
eighth largest trade show in the country. This year's so
massive it and it's all and it's all the fire
arm industry, and so it's.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
In Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It takes up eighteen acres, which you might be interested
to hear. We could fit five hundred and forty seven
S sixteen fighter.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Jets on our show floor.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Out in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
It's massive. Way that's coming up in January. Yeah, that
would be pretty cool. But as cool as it is
with a bunch of guns and a.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Lot of great Hoosier companies go out there and have booth,
it's it's a great event and I'm looking forward to
it coming up here in January.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, our good friend Brent Wheat, editor of Guns Magazine,
here another Hoosier as a regular and we were just
talking about some gun issue things blah blah blah, and
he's a regular guest here, So I'm looking forward and
he always looks forward to it in his role. But
he's been out there for thirty plus years, so I
call him our roving correspondent, our or a reporter from
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the Shot Show. Anything I haven't asked about the National
Shooting Sports Month or NSSF that you want people to
know and pay attention to.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
No, I think you you asked the key questions right now.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I would just encourage folks to go to our website,
it's nsuccess dot org and watch what we're working on
next session.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Again.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I wish I could tell you more about some of
what we're working on, but the plans are is kind
of coming together and maybe I'll you'll give us.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
You'll give us the scoop when it's time. How's that
you'll give us the stup, Chris, It's always good to me.
It's always great to visit with you, a fellow who's
you're doing great work the National Shooting Sports Foundations, Shooting
Sports Month and so much more. We appreciate all the
updates and good intel. Thanks for being a part of it,
and we look forward to catching up to you again
real soon, my friend.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Covire indeed one of the great organizations, the National Shooting
Sports Foundation. Chris Lee, it is the Indiana Outdoor Show.
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about Who's Just Feeding the Hungry with Susie Johnson when
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Could not be any easier than that. So with that,
as I have been mentioning, we are going to visit
with several people who are long time here on Indiana Outdoors,
none more important than Susie Jordan, who's the executive directors
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of Who's Yours Feeding the Hungry? How are you doing
and why are we talking to you? In August.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I can, Well, you.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Can talk to me about any time, you know, because
it's more than just hunt in season.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yes, it is all right. So we've got you've got
a lot going on. Susie Jordan, the executive director, doing
such great work she and her staff. This organization has
come monumentally of age. But for those that may not
know what hoo's your's feeding the hungry is. Let's talk
about that. And then you've got an event coming up
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here in September that I want people to be aware of.
So let's talk and give your commercial because everybody listening
and do something with this organization.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Oh, it's very very true. So our mission is very simple.
We take and arrange donations of livestock and deer and
also fun to provide process meat that's usually one pound
freezer packs to Indiana food banks, food pantries, and other
related organizations, everything from homeless shelters and soup kitchens to
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organizations that are helping people go through substance abuse recovery programs,
all nonprofits, all nonprofit partners.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That is amazing and the beautiful thing that we've highlighted
is that this protein that's donated and process stays in
the local community, and I want to say that that's
still true, but I don't want to misrepresent is that
we're still correct.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
That is still correct. And we also use all Indiana
based processors which abides by not only for our deer processing,
but also for our livestock processing. Our processors all have
to be for livestock casts to either be USDA inspected
or stayed inspected. So there's another classification called custom exempt,
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and those processors, unfortunately do not meet the standards that
we need for donating to those nonprofit agencies for consumption.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I love it. Susie Jordan is our guest. You guys
have really turned the organization to a different level. It's
like listening to yacht rock. Now we've got Scream and
Ozzy Osbourne because you guys are on fire. Tell us
why do you why do you think this program has
grown so much besides your dubious and distinct distinguished leadership.
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That's a joke.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Joking very much, but.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Thanks. I think the biggest thing that we've done, and
this is a kind of like a model that our
staff has come up with, is the more who know,
the more we can grow. So we have been out.
We have been with the Cattaly Association. We've been to
a lot of the fourage fairs throughout the throughout the state.
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We're getting We have always been at the Deer Turkey
waterfol xp as you have seen us there. But I
think it's that biggest thing is just growing awareness that.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
We are.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Allowing people to be aware that this is something that
most of us take for granted. That we have meat
in our freezer, in our fridge, you know, defrosting wherever
it may be thrown in a crock pot ready for
the grill.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
We all have this.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Everybody has this in the state. And that's wrong because
there are processors who partner with us to meet this
need that so many who go to a food bank
or a food pantry, they may get that box meal,
but they don't have the protein to make it complete.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And as we have often talked, and it's worthy of repeating,
if you donate, let's say you're successful and you've put
your first year in the freezer and you have tags
and permission, and you have another maybe you take a
little bit. You don't have to donate the whole deer,
but one deer, one average run in the mill deer
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taken in for processing feeds on average a couple hundred people.
And if you think about that, that's dramatic impact couple
hundred people.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Well, one thing that changed last year, Brian, and it
does now the Hunt for Hunger through the Indiana d
in our law enforcement needs to be a full deer,
needs to be a whole dear hide on field, drusted
to one of our partner processors, whether it's whose you're
speeding the Hungry, or and do Boys, the Sportsman's Group
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or also Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry, whichever three
organizations that you partner with, that deer still has to
be a full deer to donate through the DNR's Hunt
for Hunger.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
However, correct me if I'm wrong. Let's say I've taken
a dough and can you donate half of that? You
take in a whole deer, but like half and donate half?
Is that still an option?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
No?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
No, I still have to be the full deer, all right,
Still have to be the full deer.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
We were, Yeah, it's just and with with the generosity
that we have through the state legislation and DNR and
the leadership within not only DNR, but our coordination is
through the law enforcement, and those officers not only take
care of things year round, they're also big advocates for
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this program. So a shout out to Captain Quillen and
his group for all that they do to support not
only Who's Yours Feeding the Hungry, but the other organizations
that also coordinated. You know, last year in the last
hunting season, we had just our organization alone, we had
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over eight hundred and forty deer donated, So that was
over eighty three thousand pounds of meat that was processed
through thirty two processors and impacted over sixty nonprofit agencies
in the state.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That is absolutely stunning. In if I had a sound
effect for a golf clap round of applause, that would
be it. So you've got a big event. These things
don't happen on their own. We need help the everybody out.
Everybody needs volunteers, everybody needs funds. Tell us about this
event coming up in September because we're running up against
the deadline.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Well, thank you for allowing us to share this because
it's really great. We're a nonprofit agency and the only
funds that we take through the government is for the
hunt for hunkers, so we still have to support our
Meat for Forks program, which is the lifestyle, but also
general operations. We have expenses the same as any business,
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so we have on September eighteenth, it's a Thursday evening.
Doors will open at six pm at Cruise Plaza here
in the Auburn area, Dekal County, and it's a charity
auction and dinner and we've themed it from farm and
field to freezer in fork because that's exactly what we do,
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whether it comes from a livestock farm, whether it comes
from a fourage Fayre participant or donor, all the way
to the deer that comes through. Then it's processed through
into the freezer and finally to the fork. So we're
hosting two silent auction sections, a live auction as well
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as some appetizers of a fake dinner, an open bar,
and then we're working with the State Gaming on getting
our permits for some refles.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I love it, Susie, you are always on top of it.
I always encourage people. When we're done, go to Who's
Yours Feeding the hungry? Check out all the great work
there's volunteer opportunities, there's funding opportunities, there's an event coming
up that I'm jealous I can't make. But most importantly,
I appreciate you making people aware and we're going to
continue with this open phone for you to make sure
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that people are aware all year long of the needs
of Who's Yours Feeding the Hungry? And with that, Susie,
we'll be back in touch, I'm sure real soon. But
thanks so much for your contributions to conservation and to
those in Indiana. We look forward talking again.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
So sounds great, Thanks Susie.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
One of our favorite organizations it is Who's Your's Feeding
the Hungry? That's Susie Jordan. I'm your host, Brian Pointer.
Don't go anywhere. We're going to be back right after this.
And well, after all this excitement of the Indiana Outdoor
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Show between Chris Lee from the National Shooting Sports Foundation
talking about hunters or talking about Shooting Sports Month and
Susie Jordan talking about the big event coming up for
the hungers Feeding the Hungry, we saved the best for last.
It's our annual time of the year where each week
we give you a State Fair preview, and this is
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going to be our last one, Connie. I know you're
sad that I don't get to talk to you each
and every Saturday. But what a week it's been last
week into the fair. How you doing doing great?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You know, it's been a great run at the fair
this year.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Just so excited to see all the shine of faces
that have come out and visited us. And I actually
had somebody I mentioned as they recognized my voice from
last week's show.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
No Way the Day.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I love that for real.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Well you have a radio voice. I maybe my job's
in jeopardy here. But you had a big week. I
know the governors stopped by kind of midweek. That's always nice.
And you had the seventy fifth anniversary of the pavilion,
so many things. The hunter ed folks have been bringing
a lot of smiles to faces, a lot of folks
getting their questions answered. It's just kind of a big week.
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What was the governor like this week? Was he happy
with the pavilion?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Well, I was like, I'm not quite sure if it's
an official quote or not, but I do believe I
heard him say that the Natural Resources building is one
of his favorite spots here at the Fairground.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
So I'm really proud to hear that.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I don't know who's it's not their favorite? How can
you not love it? Nonetheless, we have the last weekend
and here at See I'm already going to do this
to you. Then we're going to be start talking about
the State Fair or the Boat Sport and Travel show.
But we're going to get through this fair weekend. What
can folks look forward to this weekend if.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
They're playing a trip, well, you know, I have to
bring it up, Brian. So we do have our Snakes
of Indiana show coming up from the Snakes coming up
from Obandon Woods today. They're going to be out here
at the building eleven am to two p all kinds
of native snakes that Indiana. You can come check out
to hold some, touch some, just and talk to our
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experts about them and maybe squashes some of the fears
that are around those.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Skal River.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Is Jared bringing those? Jared are my dear friend from Obannon.
Is this his set of snakes that he brings around?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yes, it is Jared.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well, he loves to tease me because he knows that
I am a little woos when it comes to snakes.
And you know what, I appreciate the passion. I will
say he has helped, but man, they just freak me out,
especially when you see him in nature. But I think
it's great when you have the opportunity, and he does
do a very good job, and it is worthy for
anybody to come out and to learn. So I'm glad
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to see that a lot of folks have taken advantage.
What else is on tap?
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Well, we still have fishing going on today and tomorrow,
fishing for kids at five seventeen. We have two sessions
ten am to one pm and four pm to seven
pm both days.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
All right, have you are you ready for the fair
to be over? Or is this kind of one of
those things you get into a routine and you kind
of like it, or is it ready to be done?
For Connie?
Speaker 6 (31:13):
You know, I really do love working on the fair.
It's my favorite time of the year, and it's kind
of better than sitting in my office that I do
most of the other eleven months of the year.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I can appreciate that for sure. And have you found
any new Have you tried the key Lime shakes over
at the Dairy Barn yet?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I did? I did have to try it. I always
try the feature.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Flavor of the year. It was good. It was definitely
it was very refreshing. But the next time I went,
I had to go back to my strawberry.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
There you go. What about the grilled cheese? Did you
get the Gouda the new one?
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I didn't do any of the grilled cheese.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
It looks really good to smells good, but I'm you know,
I'm a milkshake girl.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I had to get that there.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You got to know what you got to know, and
we've been very specific. People have very specific elephant your choices.
How about you? What any other favorite fair food that
you found this year?
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Like I always go back to the Cattle Associations of
Revice sandwiches. I got to get one of those at
least once a year, which we talked about the Red
Barn asks.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I love those as.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Well, very specific, the Red Barn You got to go there. Well,
let me tell you on behalf of thousands and thousands
of Hoosiers that make their trip to the State Fair,
hopefully a visit to the d NR Pavilion is on
the agenda, and I on behalf of them, want to
thank you and all those volunteers that have made this
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long run of the State Fair so enjoyable for so
many people we have visited with over the course of
this last three weeks, many people that have spent some
time volunteering in the pavilion, and each one of them
has a smile on their face. And not one time
did I hear anybody saying, Oh, I got to go
do this again. It's just a labor of love. Whether
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it's out of the fishing pond, or it's activities, or
it's the tip program. We had my gosh, we had
Gene talking about the tip program. He's a volunteer and
board member. I just want to say thank you, job
well done. It's thankless, but it happens because of great
people like you.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Oh, this is a special time for all of us,
and we wouldn't do it if we didn't love doing it.
Like there's so much work that goes into the planning
and the prep ahead of time and then seeing it
all together, but seeing it all come together and all
the folks that enjoy and also making that future connection
from if you're a kiddo that has come out to
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the fairgrounds and this is your first time fishing and
sparking that love or that activity later on in life.
We're so excited for those opportunities.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Well, Connie, as always, thank you for being Johnny on
the spot for us as our correspondent and coordinating all
the activities out there. We look forward to next year
and it's not going to be too long. We're going
to be talking about the boat, Sport and Travel show.
But we're going to give you a break. Go back
to your office and turn the air conditioning on for
a little bit, and then we're going to be back
in touch. Thanks for all you do out there, and
best of luck. Keep up the great work.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Absolutely, Brian, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
My pleasure. Hate to see the fair end, but thank
you to Connie and all those great volunteers. Whether you're
with the DNR or not, we appreciate it. As always.
It is the Indiana Outdoor Show, and I am your host,
Brian Pointer. What a great one we've had. Don't go
anywhere because when we come back, more to come right
after this, and so much fun on the Indiana Outdoor Show.
(34:54):
At least I have fun. I'm so grateful to be
here with you. And if you like the show, make
sure you tell the stations how much you like it
and appreciate them carrying Indiana Outdoors for all these twenty
eight years, we have had a great run. Great updates
from our friends at the Indiana State Fair. Connie Hudson,
she's going to need a break. She's been at that
fair every day making sure things go off. Got a
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visit surprisingly from the Governor. One of his favorite places.
We had the director out there seventy five years of
great stuff and it's truly one of my favorite memories
going to the Indiana State Fair. So we appreciate all
her updates, and also Susie Jordan, who's just feeding the hungry,
big event coming up. Go to their website find out
(35:38):
how you can get involved. Always looking for volunteers. If
you're getting ready for hunting season, know where those processors
are so you can get that meat processed. We're going
to be doing some more with her as we get
a little closer to the arrival of archery season. And
then it's always important so great to hear Chris Lee
from the National Shooting Sports Foundation give us that update
(36:00):
that things in the shooting sports world uh never been better,
and they are. There's always challenges, but we've got some
updates on things that Indiana Outdoors has been following for
quite some time and always an open phone. We look
forward to more conversations with our friends at the National
Shooting Sports Foundation. Folks, as always, you know what I'm
(36:22):
going to say, Turn in a poacher one eight hundred,
tip I d n R. Be safe, enjoy the last
weekendo the Indiana State Fair. Be outside, I'll see outside everybody.
See you next week
Speaker 2 (36:40):
In Think
Well, I couldn't be any more excited to bring you
the Indiana Outdoor Show. I your host, Brian Pointer, so
great to visit with you each and every week we
bring you the Indiana Outdoor Show. Today last big weekend
of the Indiana State Fair. So hard to believe that
we are done with that, but I'm sure there's a
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lot of fun folks saying, man, this thing lasted a
long time because it's a long run. But a little
later on in the show, we're going to have our
last update from Connie Hudson, who has been so good
for us providing information. I always recommend people make sure
that you go to the DNR website for all the
activities that are taking place around the pavilion. And this
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weekend we're going to find out what Connie's got in store,
find out if she's found any new fair food that's
always important. We're also going to visit with Susie Jordan,
Whosier's Feeding the Hungry, great organization absolutely on a different
plane and doing such great work serving citizens and local communities.
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And we're going to find out what you need to
know because she's got a big event coming up along
with a little bit more intel on the who's your's
feeding the hungry? This is National Shooting Sports Month and
we're going to visit with Lee the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
Chris Aho's your native and regular guest here on Indiana Outdoors.
(02:07):
We're going to find out some of the issues, not
just in Indiana, but what this trade association for the
firearms industry is dealing with as we are already well
you know, we're halfway through the year, let's just say,
and legislatures. He deals with a lot of them. I
want to find out what's going on in some of
the other places around the United States and in the
Midwest and get some updates on Indiana. So as you
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We're making progress as foretold foreshadowed at the beginning of
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the show, it is National Shooting Sports Month and I
always love to talk about that topic and no better
organization to do that than the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
And with me at this time is regular contributor Cristallye.
It's been a while since you and I have had
(03:55):
an opportunity. But for those that may first of all,
have you been it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I've been well, but it's good to be back with you.
It's been too long. We need to do this more often.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yes, indeed, it's on my list. We're going to make
that a priority this year. And arounding the corner. But
the National Shooting Sports Foundation, you've had a long tenure there.
But for those that may not be familiar with that,
tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
NSSF National Shooting Sports Foundation is the trade association for
the firearm industry. So a lot of people think of
your two AA groups like the NRA, and those groups
represent gun owners, but NSSF is the only trade association
for the industry. We've been around since nineteen sixty one
and today we represent about ten thousand firearm industry companies
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across the country. It's a great industry. I'm happy to
work in it. And actually today I think a lot
of your listeners would be surprised to hear, but three
hundred and eighty three thousand people in America are employed
by the gun industry. Here in Indiana we have fifty
fifty five hundred Hoosier's work in the gun industry. So
it's a significant impact and we're proud of the work
(05:05):
we do. But yeah, I've been with NSUCCESS for five
years and thrilled to be here working on behalf of
the industry, and in Indiana. I'm a native Hoosier as
you know, love Indiana.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, it's interesting when we always talk about the economic impact,
whether it's fishing or hunting or whatever. The shooting sports
absolutely one of those that makes economic impact, not only
for the jobs and other things, but nationally the impact.
And then when you break it down like you did
for Indiana, I hadn't realized that there were that many
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people associated with the industry in Indiana alone. But it
doesn't surprise me. I mean, it's one of the most
The shooting sports in general has just gone crazy, and
you could probably lay lay a cause for whatever you wish,
But what makes you feel like shooting sports today are
more popular than ever?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think you just have a.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Lot of people that during COVID were really sparked and
really wanted to spend more time outdoors. You know, naturally
during a pandemic, people want to spend more time outdoors.
And people went out to gun ranges all over this
country and they enjoyed their time at the range or
out hunting with their friends. And we had a lot
of people that were engaged in the shooting sports or
(06:20):
re engaged and they've stuck with it. And we're thrilled
to really celebrate the shooting sports again this year.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And I guess we.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Can go into a National Shooting Sports Month and how
that came about and what we do with that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So and the.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Success owns National Shooting Sports Month where the primary supporter
and organizer of it, but we have a lot of
partners from gun manufacturers to gun shops to local DNRS,
State DNRS that partner with US and essentially National Shooting
Sports National Shooting Sports Month.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's just a.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Time for people to take take part in their second
mimic rights, to go to the range, take new people
to the range, and get more people involved in their
shooting sport activities.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That so many people love.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And as part of this, we work with a lot
of our members, you know, like I said, ten thousand
member companies across the country. We engage with them and
encourage them to put on specials either at their range
or at their gun shops to encourage people to go
out and get involved. So you'll see special activities, special promotions.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
You and your.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Listeners can find out a lot about a lot of
those at Shooting Sports Months dot org.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's Shooting Sportsmonth dot org.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But year round, NSSAFF works hard to make.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Sure that people continue to be engaged in the.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Shooting sports And we have another website that people can
use outside of Shooting Sports Month is Let's Go shooting
dot org, and I'd encourage people to go there year
round too, especially new shooters. It's a great resource for
new shooters. But a big thing here in Indiana that
I'm happy to talk about is that we got to
proclamation from Governor Brown declaring this to be Indiana Shooting
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Sports Month here in Indiana, and at the federal level,
President Trump issued an official decoration, official message declaring this
to be National Shooting Sports Month across the country.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
So we typically have several governors.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think this year we had about twenty governors that
declared it to be Shooting Sports Month in their respective states.
But as you can imagine, it's not surprising here. But
under the abiding administration, we never got that presidential message.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So it's nice to be back this.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Year with a presidential message and recognition that this is
Shooting Sports Month and that it's an important pastime, important
activity for a country.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
To partake in.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I did not realize that, so that is good news.
I did not realize that that national proclamation. Of course,
we have a two A friendly administration, and it doesn't
surprise me, not only here in Indiana but nationally so
as the person that kind of oversees in works with
our state legislatures, I don't know how you possibly have
(09:05):
the patients to do that. But what are some of
the initiatives, what are some of the people saying what
are the what's the vibe in the state houses that
you deal with on two A issues?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Now, yeah, I'm just I should have gone over my
role for the industry, but working on behalf of NSSS,
I lobby across the Midwest, So I'm the Midwest Director
of State Affairs.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And in the past I had nine states.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
At most most points in my career within a success
that I lobbied. But this year we expanded our state
team and now I'm fortunate to be able to focus.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
My time in six states.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And I live in Indiana, and Indiana's one of the
six states that I cover. And you know, the issues
that we work on very state to state. In some
states were playing defense and states where they're the states
the state legislatures and it was friendly to the industry,
and other states, we try to make progress and try
to make the state a more friendly place for the
firearm industry to make home to continue to grow. So
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we continue to provide for the Second Miendment rights of
the people in those states and here in Indiana. A
big part of that is really I don't want to
give away our specifics for next session, but we have
a couple areas where we just want to make progress
in making Indiana's hunting regulations and fire and purchase regulations
(10:23):
a little bit more clear for the dealer.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
There are a couple areas in law that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We found aren't entirely clear for the FFL, and we
want it to be as clear as possible. So we're
going to look to clear up some language next year.
But you know, in the past, we've had a couple
of big priorities.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
One has been pushing.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Back on de banking against the gun industry, which has
been a huge issue.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That is a major issue, and it doesn't get enough
press explain what d banking means.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Right, So starting in twenty sixteen, about a decade ago,
we had a push from the federal government under President
Biden or I guess it before. It was just before
President Trump. It was under the Obama administration. But there's
a push to get big banks to de bank the
fire arm industry, and really it was a push at
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gun control without going through the legislature. If you can
get big the big banks to cut off financing to
gun companies, then gun companies can't continue to grow, they
can't continue to thrive, and that was the goal of
the Obama administration. It was called the Operation choke Point
back then, and unfortunately, a lot of banks went along
with that that goal in that policy, and they said
(11:31):
that we were a reputational risk. Working with the fire
arm industry was a reputational risk, and they were going
to cut off services to the gun industry. It became
one of the biggest issues over the last decade. Even
after President Obama left office and when President Trump was
in office, the big banks just continued to do this
on their own without direction from the federal government.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
They gave into.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Activist shareholders and just cut off financing, cut off credit services,
cut off in surants, really across the board. We even
had trucking companies cut off services to the gun industry.
Some of the big trucking companies the seed going down
the highway right now still today won't work with the
gun industry. And it was all part of this we
call it debanking. But it became broader, obviously if we're
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talking trucking, gun insurance, and unfortunately, a huge, huge, So
we started to work across the state to push back
on that with various bills. But we called it the
Firearm Industry Non Discrimination Act is what it became known as,
and essentially what we said in these bills generally was
that if a company has a policy of boycotting the
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gun industry and Second Amendment, then the state shouldn't grant
contracts to those companies.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So we want to be free market people.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
We're not trying to tell companies that they have to
work with the gun industry, but if they're boycotting the
entire gun industry and the Second Amendment, then state contracts
in a lot of states shouldn't be going to those companies.
So we've hashed bills like that in Florida, Texas, Oklahoma
just had a ceremonial signing a few weeks to go.
So almost a dozen states have laws in the boat
(13:03):
right now. Let's say that if you boycott the gun industry,
state contracts will not go to you.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
And so that's an issue that we worked on.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And then another issue specific to Indiana, and I think
we talked about this last time I was on too,
but here in Indiana we have a lawsuit out of Gary,
Indiana against the gun industry that's been going on now
for twenty six years. And Gary, back in nineteen ninety
nine colluded with other big cities and said, instead of
blaming the criminals for the crime in our cities, we're
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going to go after the gun industry. Even in situations
where the gun industry didn't break any laws, followed the laws,
they were just trying to pass a blame onto us
through lawsuits. And the Gary, Indiana lawsuit today is the
only one of I believe it was almost forty lawsuits
filed between nineteen ninet nine and two thousand, Gary, Indiana
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is the only one still active today. So the legislature
fortunately did act in the twenty twenty fourth session.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
We worked with them and.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They passed the law that said that the state is
the only government body in Indiana that has the right
to file a lawsuit against the gun industry for any reason.
And we hope, obviously, the courts move slowly, as you know,
that lawsuit actually twenty six years, it's pretty pretty darn slow.
So hopefully that lawsuit will we'll go away soon and
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the courts will act.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
And honestly, a.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Big frustration for me is that that lawsuit's been a
deterrent for companies in the gun industry looking to move
out of the Northeast and out of Illinois, and there
a lot of them are skipping over Indiana because of
that lawsuit, and it's frustrating for me. I'd love to
see our great gun companies move here to Indiana.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So I'm hoping that lawsuit will go.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Away after the legislature took action in twenty twenty four
and we'll see on that. But those are just some
examples of some issues that we in the gun industry
work on that might might not be your traditional issues
like constitutional carry, that we be more of a gun
owner issue that the NRA and groups like them work on.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Chris Lee is with us with the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
This is National and State Shooting Month, Shooting Sports Month
in this month, so we are grateful that all of
this is being done and handled by you and the
great folks at the nss F. Shot Show. Real quick,
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how'd shot Show go?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And what are you looking for every year?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I look forward a shot show every year.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
For your listeners that aren't aware, a shot Show is
the world's largest show devoted to the firearm industry. It's
a trade show, so you have to be a part
of the industry to go. But it's actually and you
might not know this or you might, but shot Show
is one of the ten largest trade shows in the
entire country. And we're talking like we're going up against automobiles, cabinets,
(15:58):
you know when you're talking about trade show. Yeah, yeah, technology,
that's a big one. Where the eighth we're technically the
eighth largest trade show in the country. This year's so
massive it and it's all and it's all the fire
arm industry, and so it's.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
In Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It takes up eighteen acres, which you might be interested
to hear. We could fit five hundred and forty seven
S sixteen fighter.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Jets on our show floor.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Out in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
It's massive. Way that's coming up in January. Yeah, that
would be pretty cool. But as cool as it is
with a bunch of guns and a.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Lot of great Hoosier companies go out there and have booth,
it's it's a great event and I'm looking forward to
it coming up here in January.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, our good friend Brent Wheat, editor of Guns Magazine,
here another Hoosier as a regular and we were just
talking about some gun issue things blah blah blah, and
he's a regular guest here, So I'm looking forward and
he always looks forward to it in his role. But
he's been out there for thirty plus years, so I
call him our roving correspondent, our or a reporter from
(17:00):
the Shot Show. Anything I haven't asked about the National
Shooting Sports Month or NSSF that you want people to
know and pay attention to.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
No, I think you you asked the key questions right now.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I would just encourage folks to go to our website,
it's nsuccess dot org and watch what we're working on
next session.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Again.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I wish I could tell you more about some of
what we're working on, but the plans are is kind
of coming together and maybe I'll you'll give us.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
You'll give us the scoop when it's time. How's that
you'll give us the stup, Chris, It's always good to me.
It's always great to visit with you, a fellow who's
you're doing great work the National Shooting Sports Foundations, Shooting
Sports Month and so much more. We appreciate all the
updates and good intel. Thanks for being a part of it,
and we look forward to catching up to you again
real soon, my friend.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Covire indeed one of the great organizations, the National Shooting
Sports Foundation. Chris Lee, it is the Indiana Outdoor Show.
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(19:16):
of Who's Yours Feeding the Hungry? How are you doing
and why are we talking to you? In August.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I can, Well, you.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Can talk to me about any time, you know, because
it's more than just hunt in season.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yes, it is all right. So we've got you've got
a lot going on. Susie Jordan, the executive director, doing
such great work she and her staff. This organization has
come monumentally of age. But for those that may not
know what hoo's your's feeding the hungry is. Let's talk
about that. And then you've got an event coming up
(19:53):
here in September that I want people to be aware of.
So let's talk and give your commercial because everybody listening
and do something with this organization.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Oh, it's very very true. So our mission is very simple.
We take and arrange donations of livestock and deer and
also fun to provide process meat that's usually one pound
freezer packs to Indiana food banks, food pantries, and other
related organizations, everything from homeless shelters and soup kitchens to
(20:28):
organizations that are helping people go through substance abuse recovery programs,
all nonprofits, all nonprofit partners.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That is amazing and the beautiful thing that we've highlighted
is that this protein that's donated and process stays in
the local community, and I want to say that that's
still true, but I don't want to misrepresent is that
we're still correct.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
That is still correct. And we also use all Indiana
based processors which abides by not only for our deer processing,
but also for our livestock processing. Our processors all have
to be for livestock casts to either be USDA inspected
or stayed inspected. So there's another classification called custom exempt,
(21:14):
and those processors, unfortunately do not meet the standards that
we need for donating to those nonprofit agencies for consumption.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I love it. Susie Jordan is our guest. You guys
have really turned the organization to a different level. It's
like listening to yacht rock. Now we've got Scream and
Ozzy Osbourne because you guys are on fire. Tell us
why do you why do you think this program has
grown so much besides your dubious and distinct distinguished leadership.
(21:44):
That's a joke.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Joking very much, but.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Thanks. I think the biggest thing that we've done, and
this is a kind of like a model that our
staff has come up with, is the more who know,
the more we can grow. So we have been out.
We have been with the Cattaly Association. We've been to
a lot of the fourage fairs throughout the throughout the state.
(22:12):
We're getting We have always been at the Deer Turkey
waterfol xp as you have seen us there. But I
think it's that biggest thing is just growing awareness that.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
We are.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Allowing people to be aware that this is something that
most of us take for granted. That we have meat
in our freezer, in our fridge, you know, defrosting wherever
it may be thrown in a crock pot ready for
the grill.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
We all have this.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Everybody has this in the state. And that's wrong because
there are processors who partner with us to meet this
need that so many who go to a food bank
or a food pantry, they may get that box meal,
but they don't have the protein to make it complete.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And as we have often talked, and it's worthy of repeating,
if you donate, let's say you're successful and you've put
your first year in the freezer and you have tags
and permission, and you have another maybe you take a
little bit. You don't have to donate the whole deer,
but one deer, one average run in the mill deer
(23:25):
taken in for processing feeds on average a couple hundred people.
And if you think about that, that's dramatic impact couple
hundred people.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Well, one thing that changed last year, Brian, and it
does now the Hunt for Hunger through the Indiana d
in our law enforcement needs to be a full deer,
needs to be a whole dear hide on field, drusted
to one of our partner processors, whether it's whose you're
speeding the Hungry, or and do Boys, the Sportsman's Group
(23:58):
or also Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry, whichever three
organizations that you partner with, that deer still has to
be a full deer to donate through the DNR's Hunt
for Hunger.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
However, correct me if I'm wrong. Let's say I've taken
a dough and can you donate half of that? You
take in a whole deer, but like half and donate half?
Is that still an option?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
No?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
No, I still have to be the full deer, all right,
Still have to be the full deer.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
We were, Yeah, it's just and with with the generosity
that we have through the state legislation and DNR and
the leadership within not only DNR, but our coordination is
through the law enforcement, and those officers not only take
care of things year round, they're also big advocates for
(24:50):
this program. So a shout out to Captain Quillen and
his group for all that they do to support not
only Who's Yours Feeding the Hungry, but the other organizations
that also coordinated. You know, last year in the last
hunting season, we had just our organization alone, we had
(25:10):
over eight hundred and forty deer donated, So that was
over eighty three thousand pounds of meat that was processed
through thirty two processors and impacted over sixty nonprofit agencies
in the state.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That is absolutely stunning. In if I had a sound
effect for a golf clap round of applause, that would
be it. So you've got a big event. These things
don't happen on their own. We need help the everybody out.
Everybody needs volunteers, everybody needs funds. Tell us about this
event coming up in September because we're running up against
the deadline.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Well, thank you for allowing us to share this because
it's really great. We're a nonprofit agency and the only
funds that we take through the government is for the
hunt for hunkers, so we still have to support our
Meat for Forks program, which is the lifestyle, but also
general operations. We have expenses the same as any business,
(26:04):
so we have on September eighteenth, it's a Thursday evening.
Doors will open at six pm at Cruise Plaza here
in the Auburn area, Dekal County, and it's a charity
auction and dinner and we've themed it from farm and
field to freezer in fork because that's exactly what we do,
(26:25):
whether it comes from a livestock farm, whether it comes
from a fourage Fayre participant or donor, all the way
to the deer that comes through. Then it's processed through
into the freezer and finally to the fork. So we're
hosting two silent auction sections, a live auction as well
(26:45):
as some appetizers of a fake dinner, an open bar,
and then we're working with the State Gaming on getting
our permits for some refles.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I love it, Susie, you are always on top of it.
I always encourage people. When we're done, go to Who's
Yours Feeding the hungry? Check out all the great work
there's volunteer opportunities, there's funding opportunities, there's an event coming
up that I'm jealous I can't make. But most importantly,
I appreciate you making people aware and we're going to
continue with this open phone for you to make sure
(27:15):
that people are aware all year long of the needs
of Who's Yours Feeding the Hungry? And with that, Susie,
we'll be back in touch, I'm sure real soon. But
thanks so much for your contributions to conservation and to
those in Indiana. We look forward talking again.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
So sounds great, Thanks Susie.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
One of our favorite organizations it is Who's Your's Feeding
the Hungry? That's Susie Jordan. I'm your host, Brian Pointer.
Don't go anywhere. We're going to be back right after this.
And well, after all this excitement of the Indiana Outdoor
(28:05):
Show between Chris Lee from the National Shooting Sports Foundation
talking about hunters or talking about Shooting Sports Month and
Susie Jordan talking about the big event coming up for
the hungers Feeding the Hungry, we saved the best for last.
It's our annual time of the year where each week
we give you a State Fair preview, and this is
(28:26):
going to be our last one, Connie. I know you're
sad that I don't get to talk to you each
and every Saturday. But what a week it's been last
week into the fair. How you doing doing great?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You know, it's been a great run at the fair
this year.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Just so excited to see all the shine of faces
that have come out and visited us. And I actually
had somebody I mentioned as they recognized my voice from
last week's show.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
No Way the Day.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I love that for real.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Well you have a radio voice. I maybe my job's
in jeopardy here. But you had a big week. I
know the governors stopped by kind of midweek. That's always nice.
And you had the seventy fifth anniversary of the pavilion,
so many things. The hunter ed folks have been bringing
a lot of smiles to faces, a lot of folks
getting their questions answered. It's just kind of a big week.
(29:14):
What was the governor like this week? Was he happy
with the pavilion?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Well, I was like, I'm not quite sure if it's
an official quote or not, but I do believe I
heard him say that the Natural Resources building is one
of his favorite spots here at the Fairground.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
So I'm really proud to hear that.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I don't know who's it's not their favorite? How can
you not love it? Nonetheless, we have the last weekend
and here at See I'm already going to do this
to you. Then we're going to be start talking about
the State Fair or the Boat Sport and Travel show.
But we're going to get through this fair weekend. What
can folks look forward to this weekend if.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
They're playing a trip, well, you know, I have to
bring it up, Brian. So we do have our Snakes
of Indiana show coming up from the Snakes coming up
from Obandon Woods today. They're going to be out here
at the building eleven am to two p all kinds
of native snakes that Indiana. You can come check out
to hold some, touch some, just and talk to our
(30:09):
experts about them and maybe squashes some of the fears
that are around those.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Skal River.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Is Jared bringing those? Jared are my dear friend from Obannon.
Is this his set of snakes that he brings around?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yes, it is Jared.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well, he loves to tease me because he knows that
I am a little woos when it comes to snakes.
And you know what, I appreciate the passion. I will
say he has helped, but man, they just freak me out,
especially when you see him in nature. But I think
it's great when you have the opportunity, and he does
do a very good job, and it is worthy for
anybody to come out and to learn. So I'm glad
(30:47):
to see that a lot of folks have taken advantage.
What else is on tap?
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Well, we still have fishing going on today and tomorrow,
fishing for kids at five seventeen. We have two sessions
ten am to one pm and four pm to seven
pm both days.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
All right, have you are you ready for the fair
to be over? Or is this kind of one of
those things you get into a routine and you kind
of like it, or is it ready to be done?
For Connie?
Speaker 6 (31:13):
You know, I really do love working on the fair.
It's my favorite time of the year, and it's kind
of better than sitting in my office that I do
most of the other eleven months of the year.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I can appreciate that for sure. And have you found
any new Have you tried the key Lime shakes over
at the Dairy Barn yet?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I did? I did have to try it. I always
try the feature.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Flavor of the year. It was good. It was definitely
it was very refreshing. But the next time I went,
I had to go back to my strawberry.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
There you go. What about the grilled cheese? Did you
get the Gouda the new one?
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I didn't do any of the grilled cheese.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
It looks really good to smells good, but I'm you know,
I'm a milkshake girl.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I had to get that there.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You got to know what you got to know, and
we've been very specific. People have very specific elephant your choices.
How about you? What any other favorite fair food that
you found this year?
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Like I always go back to the Cattle Associations of
Revice sandwiches. I got to get one of those at
least once a year, which we talked about the Red
Barn asks.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I love those as.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Well, very specific, the Red Barn You got to go there. Well,
let me tell you on behalf of thousands and thousands
of Hoosiers that make their trip to the State Fair,
hopefully a visit to the d NR Pavilion is on
the agenda, and I on behalf of them, want to
thank you and all those volunteers that have made this
(32:36):
long run of the State Fair so enjoyable for so
many people we have visited with over the course of
this last three weeks, many people that have spent some
time volunteering in the pavilion, and each one of them
has a smile on their face. And not one time
did I hear anybody saying, Oh, I got to go
do this again. It's just a labor of love. Whether
(32:59):
it's out of the fishing pond, or it's activities, or
it's the tip program. We had my gosh, we had
Gene talking about the tip program. He's a volunteer and
board member. I just want to say thank you, job
well done. It's thankless, but it happens because of great
people like you.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Oh, this is a special time for all of us,
and we wouldn't do it if we didn't love doing it.
Like there's so much work that goes into the planning
and the prep ahead of time and then seeing it
all together, but seeing it all come together and all
the folks that enjoy and also making that future connection
from if you're a kiddo that has come out to
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the fairgrounds and this is your first time fishing and
sparking that love or that activity later on in life.
We're so excited for those opportunities.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Well, Connie, as always, thank you for being Johnny on
the spot for us as our correspondent and coordinating all
the activities out there. We look forward to next year
and it's not going to be too long. We're going
to be talking about the boat, Sport and Travel show.
But we're going to give you a break. Go back
to your office and turn the air conditioning on for
a little bit, and then we're going to be back
in touch. Thanks for all you do out there, and
best of luck. Keep up the great work.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Absolutely, Brian, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
My pleasure. Hate to see the fair end, but thank
you to Connie and all those great volunteers. Whether you're
with the DNR or not, we appreciate it. As always.
It is the Indiana Outdoor Show, and I am your host,
Brian Pointer. What a great one we've had. Don't go
anywhere because when we come back, more to come right
after this, and so much fun on the Indiana Outdoor Show.
(34:54):
At least I have fun. I'm so grateful to be
here with you. And if you like the show, make
sure you tell the stations how much you like it
and appreciate them carrying Indiana Outdoors for all these twenty
eight years, we have had a great run. Great updates
from our friends at the Indiana State Fair. Connie Hudson,
she's going to need a break. She's been at that
fair every day making sure things go off. Got a
(35:16):
visit surprisingly from the Governor. One of his favorite places.
We had the director out there seventy five years of
great stuff and it's truly one of my favorite memories
going to the Indiana State Fair. So we appreciate all
her updates, and also Susie Jordan, who's just feeding the hungry,
big event coming up. Go to their website find out
(35:38):
how you can get involved. Always looking for volunteers. If
you're getting ready for hunting season, know where those processors
are so you can get that meat processed. We're going
to be doing some more with her as we get
a little closer to the arrival of archery season. And
then it's always important so great to hear Chris Lee
from the National Shooting Sports Foundation give us that update
(36:00):
that things in the shooting sports world uh never been better,
and they are. There's always challenges, but we've got some
updates on things that Indiana Outdoors has been following for
quite some time and always an open phone. We look
forward to more conversations with our friends at the National
Shooting Sports Foundation. Folks, as always, you know what I'm
(36:22):
going to say, Turn in a poacher one eight hundred,
tip I d n R. Be safe, enjoy the last
weekendo the Indiana State Fair. Be outside, I'll see outside everybody.
See you next week
Speaker 2 (36:40):
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