September 24, 2025 • 37 mins
A report from up north with Jay Anglin, a new licensing system from the Indiana DNR, and an update from the Sportsmen's Alliance.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, let's get this party started. Huh we are at
We're in party mode across the state of Indiana. It's
the Indiana Outdoor Show. I am your host, Brian Pointer.
Party mode. Why, well, this is the best time of
the year. We've got about everything that you could possibly
uh want to get out and pursue. Great fishing We've
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got across the board. Fall fishing is some of the
best you're ever going to find. We also have opportunities
for deer coming up, square roles, you name it, migratory,
it's all out there. So this is a great time
of the year and we love to celebrate that here
at Indiana Outdoors. Hopefully you do too. And with that,
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we have a great, big show today. We're going to
visit in just a little bit with Mary Hayes. She's
the public engagement specialist with our Department of Natural Resources.
Something to be aware of if you're used to going
on to our Department of Natural Resources online system to
buy licenses, they've upgraded that as of the end of
last year, so this will be the first season with
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that in place. We're going to get a great message
on what you need to know. Don't wait till the
last minute is probably the message like me, but we're
going to find out what Mary has to suggest for
those who are going to be buying licenses this weekend
you season, and then right after that we're going to
have the start of the archery season in Indiana. So
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it is here before we get to her, We're going
to visit with our good buddy Jay Anglin England Outdoors.
He's one of my favorites. He's my correspondent from the north.
He keeps me posting on all the great things, and
I guarantee you he is going to be talking about
fall fishing. But I'm anxious to see what he writes
a lot for duckson limited and others. I'm anxious to
hear what he says about the fall migration. I'm anxious
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to hear what he thinks about the fall fishing and
of course the onset of deer season. You never know
what we're going to talk about with Jay. He's always
got some great insights and value. A little later on,
speaking of insights, I catch up with our friends at
Sportsman's Alliance and they are a neighbor over in Ohio,
but they're a national organization and they're one that I
believe does such great work advocating for hunting, trapping, fishing
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rights and what we don't think we need to pay
attention to. They are and advocacy is one of the
things I'm going to be talking about, making sure people
join organizations. So, as you can see, we've got a great,
big show. I understand Jay is anxious to get on
with this. I don't want to take any time away
from him. So with that, get ready for a great
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big show. We do appreciate each and every listener. We
appreciate the stations at carry US. Couldn't do the show
without you. Don't go anywhere because Jay Anglin is next.
It's the Indiana Outdoor Show and I'm your host, Brian
Pointer and Indian Outdoors. What a beautiful weekend. This is
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my favorite time of the year, as it is with many.
It is the verge of so many great things happening
in fall traditions. But most importantly, it's just a beautiful
time of the year to be in Indiana, and no
better place to be than Indiana Outdoors. As you heard
me mentioned at the top of the hour, it's always
great to visit with friends of our show, and we
have many of them, including one of my favorites, Jay
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Anglin Anglan Outdoors. He's my correspondent from the north. He's
got his eyes on everything going on up north. Jay,
How you been pretty good?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Man?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's always great to visit with you. And what has
Angling Outdoors been up to? Tell me what your September
has been like. Here we are on the verge of
archery season opening in Indiana, one of the great rituals
of the fall. We have dove seasons, we have waterfowl seasons.
It's just like a corner copia of stuff. And I
know you love to you got your guiding business and
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you love to get out on the water. But what
have you been up to?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, you know, this is a big transition time and
you know from year to year, late August through mid September,
the shift, you know, doesn't care about the calendar really.
I mean, it's going to be either an early cool down,
which really kind of redirects everything as far as migration
of fish and waterfowl, and you know, activity levels sometimes
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they pick up, sometimes they accelerate rapidly like they did
this year because we had that big cool down and
then you know, as often the case we get that
we snap back into the summer mode which we have,
and I think in situations like this, it really tests
the metal of you know, avid outdoorsmen that do a
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little bit of everything, because everything kind of shifts and
then it shifts back and you don't know if they're
they don't know if they're coming or going. You don't
know if they're coming or going. And so what I
think the best advice I have as a guide and
an avid you know, outdoorsman, angler hunter, is you know,
you let to let them lead the way. So when
you have choices between like teal hunting, dove hunting, goose hunting,
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squirrel hunting, bats fishing, musky fishing, salmon fishing, pike fishing,
perch fishing, small mouth, bass fishing, et cetera, you have
your little network of intel. You got to look through
the you know, there's some filters you have to put
on because some guys like the BS a little bit
until you'll know, yeah, I mean that happens. I mean
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it's rare. But but nonetheless I get out there and
I and I and I you know, dive in and
you know, this year, what excuse me, one of my
biggest regrets is I got that early push of salmon,
especially up north. Everybody flipped out, and all my guys
that I guide, I'm telling them, look, man, the small
mouth bass fishing is as good as as I've ever
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seen it. Big fish on top low clear water. You
can see the eats, it's awesome, flies whatever, conventional tackle.
And they're like, nah, I'm gonna wait for the salmon
and the steelhead. So I missed out on some business there.
But more importantly, you know, guys just don't know what
they're missing. So back to the whole transition concept of
this time of year. If you're an outdoorsman, man, don't
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wait for anything, because while two or three things you
like may just be off, it's the fourth or fifth
one that could be the best of the year. And
that's that rule still applies here for a couple more weeks,
and then once October rolls around and you get the
whole photo peer think kicking in and hormones and all that,
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things become a little more solidified. You know, you start
to sort of wrap that science around everything, and you
know in that case you're going to have all the
normal activity that you would expect in October, But anyway,
it's it's always interesting, man.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I can tell you that Jay Anglin is our guest
Englin Outdoors. I love to talk to you and get
an idea of what's going on. What's your thought on
October first, is the traditional start of archery season for
deer in Indiana. I'm not a big fan of being
out in the hot, the bugs, the leaves, so I
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kind of pass on the early part of October. But
there again, it's an opportunity to be out in the
woods with your bow. Are you a bowhunter?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
What are your thoughts about early October deer season?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, you know, it depends on the level of there's
a few things. I mean, for some guys it's just automatic.
You're going to go no matter what, and that's cool.
I don't. I'm like you, I last about an hour
of being eaten alive and I feel like I'm getting
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a sunburn, you know, But yeah, you can't see well.
And honestly, I think because of that that reason a loan,
you know, with the foliage and the density really and
everything about it is to me, you're just going out
of your way to push a really big deer you know,
or kind of bugger up the thing, you know, everything
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by just not being able to see or hear even
you know, that's the other thing. When a deer goes
crashing through dry foliage like stubble or leaves, you can
kind of hear it right now. Man, you could have
a moose running in front of you and you wouldn't
know it because everything's kind of damp and and and
you know, lush. But you know, that's just my take
on it. I think if I was more invested in
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white tail hunting at this stage in my life, I
would probably absolutely one percent be out there. But I'm
just not like I used to be. And I kind
of roll with the punches now. That said, if I
wake up, you know, next week and it says, you know,
cold front, cool down high a forty eight on the first, yes,
I very well, maybe you know, inclined to do it,
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but I've got a little matter of actually getting my
bow and crossbow out and shooting a couple of aros
and bolts.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And see, we got that to deal with. I know
you and I are on the same page.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I mean, I've been very, very fortunate in that my
my my bow guy is very very good at what
he does, and for whatever reason, the bow I have
just stays. And I'm not saying don't go shoot. Absolutely
go shoot, but I think also a lot of guys
get so obsessed with shooting that, you know, they they
start to injure themselves A and B. You know, they
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just work the bow so hard. It kind of changes
a little bit. But nonetheless, I think it's cool.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I'm happy for all the dudes that are all in
because man, when I was all in, it was magic,
and so that's what's cool about it.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I guess I agree with you. I've I don't know,
maybe I'm just getting lazy and old, but I kind
of pick and choose because time is always an option.
You know, You've got to factor in where you want
to balance your time. And I just can't get out
every day or do the weekend stuff. And I've been
in a tree stand where it snowed October first, and
I've more often than not, like you sweat running down
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my back and the bugs and it's frustrating. So I
love it. I'm glad that we have this opportunity. It's
very different. It's so interesting. If you are an avid
hunter starting in October and watching it go all the
way through the final part of November. How things change,
And that's what I really really love. And I think
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people miss that experience if you don't get out, because
it's always good to be in a tree stand. It's
always good to be out pursuing your game and having fun.
But on the other hand, it's really spectacular how mother
nature changes almost with a blink of an eye, and
with that, the patterns change. You know, the bachelor groups
break up, the fighting starts, the pursuit starts, deer show
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up that you haven't seen. And with the sophistication that
everybody has now with cameras and feeding and food plots
that people can this is a year long event and
I'm so happy that we have the opportunity to get out.
I'm just not going to be able to do that
for a minute, but it is. It's a great time
of the year no matter what, to be out in
the Indiana outdoors. Let's leave it like that. How's that?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And you know the guys that are putting all that
time and energy into it, with all the new technology
and making it a year round lifestyle. You know, it's special.
I mean, it's great for the economy, it's great for
the you know what, it's great for the soul. Man.
You go out and you just invest. And I know
that's a huge attraction for so many people. And I've
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been there and maybe I'll be there again when I'm
not chasing baseball games and volleyball games, et cetera with
the kids. But you know, at the end of the day, man,
we're so fortunate to have it here. And of course
Indiana is a great state when it comes to all
these activities, because you know, I always say, we may
not be the best at a lot of this stuff,
but we're pretty darn good at a lot of it,
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almost all of it. I mean, we've got everything so
and man, our white sail hunting is you know, there's
not much better out there than than than deer hunting
in Indiana.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
If you I agree, your cards right, and you know,
if you go and you look at the wall with
the deer Turkey Waterfowl Expo, we are a destination. And
I want to keep that quiet, but we have some
incredible deer hunting opportunities only getting better. We've been spared
the rod, so to speak, with some of the EHD
and CWD issues this last year that kicked the butt
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in some areas around the state a few years ago.
But I just think it is it's a great transition.
It's a great time of the year to be out
in the Indiana outdoors. Plus, you know, it's as you say,
good for the so the older I get, that's what
it's all about.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
For me.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I know, as soon as I draw that bow back
or pull that trigger, the work begins. So I'd rather
sit and watch and enjoy a lot of times if
my laziness kicks in and say, boy, that's just fun
to watch. Talk to me about the muskies. I know
this is a time of year where a lot of
avid muskie hunters come to northern Indiana in the great
lake system that we have that houses these beautiful predator fish.
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What's your thought, how's it looking this fall?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know, all things considered, we have great opportunity. Obviously,
I mean, in some cases you might it's arguable we
might have some of the best opportunities even right up
there with you know, places in Ontario, in Minnesota and
Wisconsin and to slightly lesser agreat Michigan.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
But it's looking pretty good.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
The weather's been good.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It backed off.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I mean they kind of kickstarted a little early this year.
You know, the fall by it is always notoriously great,
especially for big fish. I've been out twice in the
last ten days and they weren't good days of high sun.
It was hot, you know, low clear water, and you
know you just have to pick the absolute perfect timing
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on that. And with muskies, man, that's you know, you
go by the sun and the moon and this, that
and the other thing. But my experience of muskies wake
up one day and there's like, I'm not doing it today.
They ain't doing well. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
They're called the fish of a thousand casts for a reason.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It always amazes me how fish can be so big
and brutally predatory and still be such a finicky kind
of a woos when it comes to eating. You know,
you got rock bass out there just eating twenty four
to seven anything and they're about four inches long, and
then you got this musky that's fifty inches long. I'm
not going to eat today. It's kind of odd.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You know, Well, we've got a lot going on, and
what are you writing about. I know that you're an
avid writer too, any new things on Jay England's mind.
What have you been putting out lately?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh, you know, I do my gu thing, the Great
Lakes Migration Editor. Those are just kicking. In fact, I'm
working on one. Well, they're weekly, and I'm doing a
lot of work for you know, some other brands in
the industry as far as deer hunting. So this is
a really busy time for me. And you know, I
do assignments. I've got a few little game and fish
here and there and WTF. Kind of a hired gun
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kind of guy, freelancer. But you know, I guess I
could just sit down and write for probably three or
four days in a row and pump out multiple articles
and I still wouldn't catch up. So it's a it's
kind of a merry go round for me when it
comes to writing these days.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
All right, one final thought, you talk about the ducks
and the migration. What are your thoughts, what are you hearing,
what are you predicting?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's gonna be interesting. I'm not sure what to think.
I mean, we had some areas that were dry, which
usually means ducks, even though those nests weren't surveyed and broods,
it means they probably went someplace where there was water.
So a lot of times those areas don't get surveyed
all that well. A great example of that are pintails.
That happens a lot. But I think it's gonna be
another one of those years where we're just gonna chug
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along and it's gonna be more weather dependent. I mean,
and we'll see what happened to me. If we get
some nice early fronts and you know, things are a
little more like normal as far as like November late October,
I think we'll be fine. You know, Goose numbers are
maybe just for me for my observations, just a little
lower this year for some reason. And that might be
they're just I'm not seeing them. I don't know. But anyway, you.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Know, you did, you wouldn't be talking to me on
Indian outdoors, would you.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well, it just depends.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I mean, you know, Michigan's open, India. I mean, you
got to chase the openers. You know, I'm a line
jumper because I live right by the state line. But
you know, I think it's gonna be good the conditions
as far as water goes, you know, in places where
it's really dry and there's a lot of places that
are dry and don't have much water, and everybody's crying
about it. But at the end of the day, if
we get some rain, all that good duck food in there,
all that moist soil stuff, the seeds is going to
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be a huge anchor for a lot of ducks, meaning
they'll show up and they'll stick around, as opposed to
coming down and hanging out for a day or two
and then rolling on down south. So it could be good.
It could be really good in that.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Regard to well, Jay, It's always great to catch up.
It's been too long. Everybody check out Jay Anglin England Outdoors,
follow him and all the social stuff. He's fun guy
to post, puts a lot of great material out there,
and you're a great contributor here in Indiana Outdoors and
we appreciate everything that you give to us. So I
wish you well, my friend, and we will be back
here together, hopefully in a few more weeks to get
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an update as the leaves turn and come off and
Jay Anglin's out doing what he does. Thanks for being
with us, my friend.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh, I always love being here.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Everybody be safe out there and to go out and
enjoy the outdoors in this great state.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Couldn't have said that any better way to go. Talk
to you soon, my friend. It is the Indiana Outdoor Show.
I am your host. We covered a lot of topics there.
We got many more to go. Don't you think about
going anywhere. We're going to talk to our friends in
the DNR about some new license requirements. It's the Indiana
Outdoor Show.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
And so great to be with you each and every week.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Think those stations are carry us. It is the Indiana
Outdoor Show and I your host, Brian Pointer. Many thanks
to Jay Anglin, our correspondent from the North. Great update.
So many things this time of the year. He went
through a litany of all of them, and we appreciate
that as always. As I mentioned earlier, some changes coming
and we are on the verge of archery season twenty
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twenty five and deer season in Indiana, and I wanted
to make sure people understood if you're like me, you're
probably a last minute person from time to time. And
I invited Mary Hayes to join us. She's the Public
Engagement supervisor with our Indiana Department of Natural Resources. Mary,
it's great to visit with you what do our Indiana
deer hunters need to be paying attention to this year,
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because I understand there's been some regulation changes.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Yes, yep, Brian, there have been regulation changes and where
we've updated our website and our hunting guide with those changes,
if you're okay with it. What I'd like to focus
on today is what I've been really pushing hard on
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here within Fish and Wildlife, and that is how to
use our new license system.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yes, oh, yes, absolutely, because I'm a big fan and
I love the portal. But explain the changes, Explain how
to use it and what's going on.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Sure, and thank you for the opportunity. We're really trying
to get the word out to all of our hunters
and like you said, deer seasons coming up. In December
of twenty twenty four, we launched a new license system.
It's called the Activity Hub and it replaced the previous
license system that folks were used to. And so this
is our first deer season with that system. And so
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what I want to encourage deer hunters to do be
not like Brian and be at the last minute, but
instead I throw.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It under the bus this early, throwing the hose. Well,
it was my fault.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
So yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
We would love for folks to go in, excuse me,
and log in now. And what that means is if
you're logging in for the first time, and you'll log
in at go outdoorsi ND dot com, you'll need to
look yourself up in the system and you'll need to
verify that all that information.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
About you is correct.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
And so that might take a couple other a couple
extra minutes, and then it might look different, well, it
will look different than what folks are used to in
the past. So there's the log in, making sure that
all the personal information is correct, making sure that one
hunter ed number is in there, whatever information folks need
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in order to purchase a license, and then we encourage
folks to go ahead and buy those licenses because if
you encounter any issues, there's contact information there and we
have standing by, as they say, to answer questions via
email and phone. In particular, one of the big changes
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has to do with and this language gets a little technical,
try to simplify it. If a customer, if a Hunter
had a child of theirs linked to their account, so
they could purchase a license for that child or update
their contact information, they'll need to go into the new
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system and relink that child. Okay, so that's a bit
of a process, and we know deuse deer is this
weekend's very weekend, so we want to encourage folks to
go in and do that now. So again, if they
have issues, they can email or call us and we
can help them with that. Now, one thing I want
to point out is that there's a big difference between
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the previous system and the new system, and that is
if a hunter had a child who was let's say
seventeen years old, they were linking that child as a child,
but in the current system, they would link that child
as a customer group. So a child was considered someone
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under eighteen and now it's someone under thirteen. So that
difference is confusing some folks. Again, leave some time so
that you can link the person you want to to
your account and be able to buy that license for
that person, be able to check in dear for that person.
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There are instructions online in the system. As you're looking
at the homepage bottom left, there are some health resources.
We've created a video for how to link your child
or someone else that you want to purchase a license for,
and that's on the DNR YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Well, it sounds like there's been a lot of effort
put into getting this out. And I did this exactly
what you say said oh good earlier because I was
curious about it. I found it intuitive, meaning it was
kind of self explanatory. But I'm kind of glad I
did it because you know, when the hunter goes and
they're preparing to get out, and then all of a
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sudden they have venison on the ground and they have
to check in. And that's even after they bought their licenses.
But even a lot of folks who have lifetime licenses,
I still need from time to time to go in there.
And it was very helpful. So I appreciate the tutorial there.
What else do people need to be aware of?
Speaker 5 (23:33):
So one of the enhancements, if you will, from the
new system is that there's no charge to check in
your game via the phone system. Do we have an
automated phone system and you call that number and you'll
check it in. You just have to have your customer
ID number, another couple of other pieces of information, and
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you can easily do it without even having to go
into the system. You can do that for on behalf
of a child, and you can do that on behalf
of someone over thirteen as well, as long as you
have their customer ID number.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That is a key piece.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
If you have the customer ID number written down somewhere,
it will make a hunter's life much easier. If you
have that piece of information, we can look people up
in the system much more easily and then troubleshoot for you.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
What happens a lot, Brian.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Is that people will have duplicate accounts, and so they'll
get in there, they'll try to find their account, they
won't be able to find it, and it turns out
there might be three or four accounts for the same person.
And you know how that is when you're trying to
buy something online. You can't find yourself, you can't remember
your passwords. It's just like forget it. I'll just create
a new account, which is fine in the moment, but
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then later it kind of comes back and becomes a problem.
So that's another reason to get in early so that
we can help folks with that. If the system tells
them that are multiple accounts, are going to have to
call us.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I tell you you do your job real well. That
was a very nice explanation and I always encourage people
to pick up the Hunting Guide because this is a
great resource. I usually selfishly take two or three because
I keep one at home, I keep one in my car,
and usually one ends up in my pack somewhere wherever
I'm going hunting. And it's very, very helpful. So all
this can be found either online and also on the
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Hunting Guide.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Correct, that's right.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
And if I have one piece of advice for hunters
out there, if what I have said is confusing, just
go to go Outdoors. I en dot Com and start
the process. Just go step by step, and when you
encounter an issue, email us or give us a call.
That contact information is there and we're here. We are
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staffed up to help folks through this first year of
deer season with our new license system. And we were
just in a meeting right here in this room, five
of us who are helping with those customer inquiries. We've
got about fifty to sixty staff members. It's not part
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of their normal day job, but we've got fifty to
sixty folks helping, and then five of us were sitting
here and the thing that inspires and motivates us is getting.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
People in the field Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Friday, we are really going to be pulling out all
the stops to make sure those parents who want to
take their kids out this weekend have what they need.
But the message I tell them is help us, help
you by going in today or tonight or tomorrow, not
Saturday morning, because that's a recipe for disappointment for kids
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and parents alike. So noted that would be my message.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Mary. As always, you do great work in the entire
department and division. Efficient Wildlife should be congratulated. Great work
upgrading all the system stuff. Yeahppreciate you giving us some
time on Indian Outdoors, and we won't make you wait
too long. We'll probably have you back and have some
more conversation about this in dear season. So thanks for
being with us.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Mary, my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
It is the Indiana Outdoor Show. What a great one
we've had this morning. We look forward to so much
more when we return. It's the Indiana Outdoor Show, and
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what would Indiana Outdoors be without so many great guests.
We appreciate all those our department announced resources. Make sure
you go check out the new check system online and
license purchase system as Mary just described, and our great
friend Jay Anglan, England Outdoors our correspondent from the north.
(27:55):
It has been great. I your host, Brian Pointer, It's
Indiana Outdoors. We appreciate you on this verge of the
opening of Indiana deer season. A lot of things happening.
Speaking of a lot of things happening, one of my
favorite organizations are Friends at the Sportsmen's Alliance. Always regular
contributors here and always filled with great information. Brian Lynn
(28:17):
joins us, Brian, how you been What's going on with
our friends at the Sportsmen's Alliances? Seems to be a
quiet time, am I right?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
First, thanks for having us on. Happy to be here anytime. Yeah,
right now, it's a quiet time. Most states state legislatures
are in recess, and I've been in summer recess and
are taking it easy right now.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Things will start firing up.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Here, you know, towards the end of the year, getting
ready for the next session. We'll start seeing bills be
pre filed, probably in December time frame.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
And so it's a quiet time, which is good.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
It's nice sort I catch up on all my other
stuff and maintenance work and prepare for twenty twenty six,
which is then a sprint run from January to June
where it's NonStop across the country.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yes, indeed, and I'm glad we caught you at a
moment where maybe we can focus on some other things
besides what the wackados are doing across the country, which
you're always so great at. I believe that joining an
organization like the Alliance, the Sportsmen's Alliance, is so important
for people because we get so busy in our heads
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down and you guys are out banging your heads against
the wall across the country and all the legislatures and
following national stuff that effectively is going to come to
bear if we don't have people like you. I know
your organization is so good at this, but I think
you'd have to agree being a part of a group
that advocates for hunting, fishing, trapping rights is so important
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and there's none better than what you guys do.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
And I personally to have a philosophy myself that you
need to belong to a you know, firearms group, whichever
one that is that defends their firearms rights and the
Second Amendment.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Pick your favorite critter group, whether that's.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Elk or deer, or ducks or pheasants or whatever. Enjoin
that and then join the Sportsman's Alliance or a similar
group that is out there protecting those hunting and fishing
rights that you know allow you to chase that critter,
and you know you can go brokes, try and support
all the nonprofits out there, but pick your favorite critter,
your guns, and your hunting right advocacy groups.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I couldn't have said that any better. And if I
can hop on this just for a second. So the deer,
the ducks, the turkeys, the elks, the quail, the pheasant,
they all have these great organizations. Supporting one helps everything.
Meaning if you're an avid Ducks unlimited fan, and you
know I'm I'm heavily invested in ducks, but I'm also
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knowing that if you if you have clean water, you're
going to have better here and better turkey and better
songbirds and other things. So your point is so well
made that just pick one, because they all do great
work for conservation, and that is something that I'm going
to steal that one. That's a good one, Brian, you
bet you so tell me what you guys have other
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resources that I really use in value that when you
join an organization and you say, well, what are we
even talking about here? You provide it pretty easily for
folks when you become a member. What are some of
the resources that they can jump onto.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, you can just go to our website Sportsmen's Alliance
dot org and our Legislative Action Center is up and going.
And so then the session kicks off. We have a
heat map that as bills get introduced in states, the
state starts to light up darker and darker orange. You
can click on that state and see every bill that's
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been introduced that impacts hunting, fishing, trapping, dogs gain commissions,
and you can sort them by that to see what's introduced.
See where we stand, so you know it a lot
of it. We monitor it first. And then the second
step you can take is signing up for your alert
system for your state. So you type in your name
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and email and your zip code, and when we feel
there's an alert that you need to call a legislator
or send an email to a commission group or whatever,
we send out the alert. It's your email box and
you get that alert then and then you can take
action to protect your rights.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
In your state.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Well, you guys are covering the entire country, plus the
national stuff, and it's so great to catch you at
a time where we're not harping on what seems to
be your regular litany of issues across the country, whether
it's the East Coast and whatever their issues are, and
then the West Coast with wolves and other things that
we've been tracking that you keep us informed of. I
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can't wait to call you back when we are in
the midst of some fights and you guys are fully engaged.
And people in Indiana need to be paying attention because
eventually it's going to come back, because whatever happens out West,
Doud East, somewhere else in the country, ultimately we're going
to end up with issues like that. So advocacy is
very important. And I think your message today of joining
Sportsman's Alliance is a good one. Brian. I'm just going
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to give you the last minute here just to kind
of say anything else that people need to be aware
of or should be aware of.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Well, that's the big stuff is you pretty much said
it just perfectly. What happens elsewhere elsewhere will eventually find
its way to Indiana. There are great states in this country.
Indiana is one of them where you usually don't have
a lot of problems. Prepare now because they will be
coming from the east and the west, and those policies
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will migrate inwards to the center of the country, the
heart of the country where hunting and fishing are valued.
So prepare now and put up a strong front so
they never get today.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Amen, Brian, great to visit with you. Join the Sportsman's Alliance.
Just check them out Sportsmen's Alliance, and we appreciate you
and all the great work that you do. We'll look
forward to catching up with you later this year when
things really get fired up. Brian Lynn, thanks so much
for being with us. You bet you, thank you, my pleasure.
It is the Indiana Outdoor Show, great organization, one of
my favorites. We appreciate him and all the great work
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they do, and we appreciate you. Don't think about going anywhere.
The Indiana Outdoor Show continues right after this and so
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much fun, so many things covered today. My gosh, it
is the Indiana Outdoor Show. And so grateful to be
your host for all these years. It is a great
time of Indiana Outdoors calendar, if you will. So many
things converge starting the end of September and October. We've
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had early migratory season already in place, squirrel seasons in place.
Fishing has been great, We've got dove seasons. So many
things are the rituals and rights that have carried generation
to generation. And then we get into the big boy
stuff here with deer season, archery opening lots and lots.
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Great to visit with Jay Anglin. It's been a minute,
but as you heard him say, he affirmed what I thought.
Fall fishing smallmouth great, we've got steelhead, We've got all
kinds of stuff going on. Muskie fishing great time of
the year and fall, and Indiana is blessed to be
one of the destination points in the Midwest, if not
one of the premiere for that species. A lot of
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folks taking to lakes up in northern Indiana. Also very
important message from our Department of Natural Resources. You heard
Mary Hayes talk about the new license purchase system that
was upgraded and will require a couple extra steps for
those that are used to the way the old system was.
I went and did this a couple weeks ago, and
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it was intuitive, but I'm glad I did it just
to get familiar with it. And she encourages all to
do the same and kind of don't wait to that
last minute before you need to go out, especially if
you've got kids that you've bought licenses for in the past.
Just go and try it. Trust me, I did it,
You can do it. Brian Lynn not a great lot
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of not a lot of activity going on because we're
in kind of that lull nationally and state legislature. So
it was great to visit with him and talk about
the importance of joining organizations none better than the Sportsman's Alliance. Folks.
Great to be with you in the Indiana Outdoor Studios.
Hopefully you find somewhere in field or forest soon to
enjoy what we got here. And as we always do,
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remember folks, turn in a poacher one eight hundred tip IDNR.
Take it with you, folks, see you next week, see outside,
be safe. Everybody think the st
Well, let's get this party started. Huh we are at
We're in party mode across the state of Indiana. It's
the Indiana Outdoor Show. I am your host, Brian Pointer.
Party mode. Why, well, this is the best time of
the year. We've got about everything that you could possibly
uh want to get out and pursue. Great fishing We've
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got across the board. Fall fishing is some of the
best you're ever going to find. We also have opportunities
for deer coming up, square roles, you name it, migratory,
it's all out there. So this is a great time
of the year and we love to celebrate that here
at Indiana Outdoors. Hopefully you do too. And with that,
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we have a great, big show today. We're going to
visit in just a little bit with Mary Hayes. She's
the public engagement specialist with our Department of Natural Resources.
Something to be aware of if you're used to going
on to our Department of Natural Resources online system to
buy licenses, they've upgraded that as of the end of
last year, so this will be the first season with
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that in place. We're going to get a great message
on what you need to know. Don't wait till the
last minute is probably the message like me, but we're
going to find out what Mary has to suggest for
those who are going to be buying licenses this weekend
you season, and then right after that we're going to
have the start of the archery season in Indiana. So
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it is here before we get to her, We're going
to visit with our good buddy Jay Anglin England Outdoors.
He's one of my favorites. He's my correspondent from the north.
He keeps me posting on all the great things, and
I guarantee you he is going to be talking about
fall fishing. But I'm anxious to see what he writes
a lot for duckson limited and others. I'm anxious to
hear what he says about the fall migration. I'm anxious
(02:15):
to hear what he thinks about the fall fishing and
of course the onset of deer season. You never know
what we're going to talk about with Jay. He's always
got some great insights and value. A little later on,
speaking of insights, I catch up with our friends at
Sportsman's Alliance and they are a neighbor over in Ohio,
but they're a national organization and they're one that I
believe does such great work advocating for hunting, trapping, fishing
(02:39):
rights and what we don't think we need to pay
attention to. They are and advocacy is one of the
things I'm going to be talking about, making sure people
join organizations. So, as you can see, we've got a great,
big show. I understand Jay is anxious to get on
with this. I don't want to take any time away
from him. So with that, get ready for a great
(03:00):
big show. We do appreciate each and every listener. We
appreciate the stations at carry US. Couldn't do the show
without you. Don't go anywhere because Jay Anglin is next.
It's the Indiana Outdoor Show and I'm your host, Brian
Pointer and Indian Outdoors. What a beautiful weekend. This is
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my favorite time of the year, as it is with many.
It is the verge of so many great things happening
in fall traditions. But most importantly, it's just a beautiful
time of the year to be in Indiana, and no
better place to be than Indiana Outdoors. As you heard
me mentioned at the top of the hour, it's always
great to visit with friends of our show, and we
have many of them, including one of my favorites, Jay
(03:51):
Anglin Anglan Outdoors. He's my correspondent from the north. He's
got his eyes on everything going on up north. Jay,
How you been pretty good?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Man?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's always great to visit with you. And what has
Angling Outdoors been up to? Tell me what your September
has been like. Here we are on the verge of
archery season opening in Indiana, one of the great rituals
of the fall. We have dove seasons, we have waterfowl seasons.
It's just like a corner copia of stuff. And I
know you love to you got your guiding business and
(04:23):
you love to get out on the water. But what
have you been up to?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, you know, this is a big transition time and
you know from year to year, late August through mid September,
the shift, you know, doesn't care about the calendar really.
I mean, it's going to be either an early cool down,
which really kind of redirects everything as far as migration
of fish and waterfowl, and you know, activity levels sometimes
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they pick up, sometimes they accelerate rapidly like they did
this year because we had that big cool down and
then you know, as often the case we get that
we snap back into the summer mode which we have,
and I think in situations like this, it really tests
the metal of you know, avid outdoorsmen that do a
(05:11):
little bit of everything, because everything kind of shifts and
then it shifts back and you don't know if they're
they don't know if they're coming or going. You don't
know if they're coming or going. And so what I
think the best advice I have as a guide and
an avid you know, outdoorsman, angler hunter, is you know,
you let to let them lead the way. So when
you have choices between like teal hunting, dove hunting, goose hunting,
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squirrel hunting, bats fishing, musky fishing, salmon fishing, pike fishing,
perch fishing, small mouth, bass fishing, et cetera, you have
your little network of intel. You got to look through
the you know, there's some filters you have to put
on because some guys like the BS a little bit
until you'll know, yeah, I mean that happens. I mean
(05:56):
it's rare. But but nonetheless I get out there and
I and I and I you know, dive in and
you know, this year, what excuse me, one of my
biggest regrets is I got that early push of salmon,
especially up north. Everybody flipped out, and all my guys
that I guide, I'm telling them, look, man, the small
mouth bass fishing is as good as as I've ever
(06:18):
seen it. Big fish on top low clear water. You
can see the eats, it's awesome, flies whatever, conventional tackle.
And they're like, nah, I'm gonna wait for the salmon
and the steelhead. So I missed out on some business there.
But more importantly, you know, guys just don't know what
they're missing. So back to the whole transition concept of
this time of year. If you're an outdoorsman, man, don't
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wait for anything, because while two or three things you
like may just be off, it's the fourth or fifth
one that could be the best of the year. And
that's that rule still applies here for a couple more weeks,
and then once October rolls around and you get the
whole photo peer think kicking in and hormones and all that,
(07:02):
things become a little more solidified. You know, you start
to sort of wrap that science around everything, and you
know in that case you're going to have all the
normal activity that you would expect in October, But anyway,
it's it's always interesting, man.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I can tell you that Jay Anglin is our guest
Englin Outdoors. I love to talk to you and get
an idea of what's going on. What's your thought on
October first, is the traditional start of archery season for
deer in Indiana. I'm not a big fan of being
out in the hot, the bugs, the leaves, so I
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kind of pass on the early part of October. But
there again, it's an opportunity to be out in the
woods with your bow. Are you a bowhunter?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
What are your thoughts about early October deer season?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, you know, it depends on the level of there's
a few things. I mean, for some guys it's just automatic.
You're going to go no matter what, and that's cool.
I don't. I'm like you, I last about an hour
of being eaten alive and I feel like I'm getting
(08:10):
a sunburn, you know, But yeah, you can't see well.
And honestly, I think because of that that reason a loan,
you know, with the foliage and the density really and
everything about it is to me, you're just going out
of your way to push a really big deer you know,
or kind of bugger up the thing, you know, everything
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by just not being able to see or hear even
you know, that's the other thing. When a deer goes
crashing through dry foliage like stubble or leaves, you can
kind of hear it right now. Man, you could have
a moose running in front of you and you wouldn't
know it because everything's kind of damp and and and
you know, lush. But you know, that's just my take
on it. I think if I was more invested in
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white tail hunting at this stage in my life, I
would probably absolutely one percent be out there. But I'm
just not like I used to be. And I kind
of roll with the punches now. That said, if I
wake up, you know, next week and it says, you know,
cold front, cool down high a forty eight on the first, yes,
I very well, maybe you know, inclined to do it,
(09:17):
but I've got a little matter of actually getting my
bow and crossbow out and shooting a couple of aros
and bolts.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And see, we got that to deal with. I know
you and I are on the same page.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I mean, I've been very, very fortunate in that my
my my bow guy is very very good at what
he does, and for whatever reason, the bow I have
just stays. And I'm not saying don't go shoot. Absolutely
go shoot, but I think also a lot of guys
get so obsessed with shooting that, you know, they they
start to injure themselves A and B. You know, they
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just work the bow so hard. It kind of changes
a little bit. But nonetheless, I think it's cool.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I'm happy for all the dudes that are all in
because man, when I was all in, it was magic,
and so that's what's cool about it.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I guess I agree with you. I've I don't know,
maybe I'm just getting lazy and old, but I kind
of pick and choose because time is always an option.
You know, You've got to factor in where you want
to balance your time. And I just can't get out
every day or do the weekend stuff. And I've been
in a tree stand where it snowed October first, and
I've more often than not, like you sweat running down
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my back and the bugs and it's frustrating. So I
love it. I'm glad that we have this opportunity. It's
very different. It's so interesting. If you are an avid
hunter starting in October and watching it go all the
way through the final part of November. How things change,
And that's what I really really love. And I think
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people miss that experience if you don't get out, because
it's always good to be in a tree stand. It's
always good to be out pursuing your game and having fun.
But on the other hand, it's really spectacular how mother
nature changes almost with a blink of an eye, and
with that, the patterns change. You know, the bachelor groups
break up, the fighting starts, the pursuit starts, deer show
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up that you haven't seen. And with the sophistication that
everybody has now with cameras and feeding and food plots
that people can this is a year long event and
I'm so happy that we have the opportunity to get out.
I'm just not going to be able to do that
for a minute, but it is. It's a great time
of the year no matter what, to be out in
the Indiana outdoors. Let's leave it like that. How's that?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And you know the guys that are putting all that
time and energy into it, with all the new technology
and making it a year round lifestyle. You know, it's special.
I mean, it's great for the economy, it's great for
the you know what, it's great for the soul. Man.
You go out and you just invest. And I know
that's a huge attraction for so many people. And I've
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been there and maybe I'll be there again when I'm
not chasing baseball games and volleyball games, et cetera with
the kids. But you know, at the end of the day, man,
we're so fortunate to have it here. And of course
Indiana is a great state when it comes to all
these activities, because you know, I always say, we may
not be the best at a lot of this stuff,
but we're pretty darn good at a lot of it,
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almost all of it. I mean, we've got everything so
and man, our white sail hunting is you know, there's
not much better out there than than than deer hunting
in Indiana.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
If you I agree, your cards right, and you know,
if you go and you look at the wall with
the deer Turkey Waterfowl Expo, we are a destination. And
I want to keep that quiet, but we have some
incredible deer hunting opportunities only getting better. We've been spared
the rod, so to speak, with some of the EHD
and CWD issues this last year that kicked the butt
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in some areas around the state a few years ago.
But I just think it is it's a great transition.
It's a great time of the year to be out
in the Indiana outdoors. Plus, you know, it's as you say,
good for the so the older I get, that's what
it's all about.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
For me.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I know, as soon as I draw that bow back
or pull that trigger, the work begins. So I'd rather
sit and watch and enjoy a lot of times if
my laziness kicks in and say, boy, that's just fun
to watch. Talk to me about the muskies. I know
this is a time of year where a lot of
avid muskie hunters come to northern Indiana in the great
lake system that we have that houses these beautiful predator fish.
(13:24):
What's your thought, how's it looking this fall?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know, all things considered, we have great opportunity. Obviously,
I mean, in some cases you might it's arguable we
might have some of the best opportunities even right up
there with you know, places in Ontario, in Minnesota and
Wisconsin and to slightly lesser agreat Michigan.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
But it's looking pretty good.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
The weather's been good.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It backed off.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I mean they kind of kickstarted a little early this year.
You know, the fall by it is always notoriously great,
especially for big fish. I've been out twice in the
last ten days and they weren't good days of high sun.
It was hot, you know, low clear water, and you
know you just have to pick the absolute perfect timing
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on that. And with muskies, man, that's you know, you
go by the sun and the moon and this, that
and the other thing. But my experience of muskies wake
up one day and there's like, I'm not doing it today.
They ain't doing well. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
They're called the fish of a thousand casts for a reason.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It always amazes me how fish can be so big
and brutally predatory and still be such a finicky kind
of a woos when it comes to eating. You know,
you got rock bass out there just eating twenty four
to seven anything and they're about four inches long, and
then you got this musky that's fifty inches long. I'm
not going to eat today. It's kind of odd.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You know, Well, we've got a lot going on, and
what are you writing about. I know that you're an
avid writer too, any new things on Jay England's mind.
What have you been putting out lately?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh, you know, I do my gu thing, the Great
Lakes Migration Editor. Those are just kicking. In fact, I'm
working on one. Well, they're weekly, and I'm doing a
lot of work for you know, some other brands in
the industry as far as deer hunting. So this is
a really busy time for me. And you know, I
do assignments. I've got a few little game and fish
here and there and WTF. Kind of a hired gun
(15:17):
kind of guy, freelancer. But you know, I guess I
could just sit down and write for probably three or
four days in a row and pump out multiple articles
and I still wouldn't catch up. So it's a it's
kind of a merry go round for me when it
comes to writing these days.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
All right, one final thought, you talk about the ducks
and the migration. What are your thoughts, what are you hearing,
what are you predicting?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's gonna be interesting. I'm not sure what to think.
I mean, we had some areas that were dry, which
usually means ducks, even though those nests weren't surveyed and broods,
it means they probably went someplace where there was water.
So a lot of times those areas don't get surveyed
all that well. A great example of that are pintails.
That happens a lot. But I think it's gonna be
another one of those years where we're just gonna chug
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along and it's gonna be more weather dependent. I mean,
and we'll see what happened to me. If we get
some nice early fronts and you know, things are a
little more like normal as far as like November late October,
I think we'll be fine. You know, Goose numbers are
maybe just for me for my observations, just a little
lower this year for some reason. And that might be
they're just I'm not seeing them. I don't know. But anyway, you.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Know, you did, you wouldn't be talking to me on
Indian outdoors, would you.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well, it just depends.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I mean, you know, Michigan's open, India. I mean, you
got to chase the openers. You know, I'm a line
jumper because I live right by the state line. But
you know, I think it's gonna be good the conditions
as far as water goes, you know, in places where
it's really dry and there's a lot of places that
are dry and don't have much water, and everybody's crying
about it. But at the end of the day, if
we get some rain, all that good duck food in there,
all that moist soil stuff, the seeds is going to
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be a huge anchor for a lot of ducks, meaning
they'll show up and they'll stick around, as opposed to
coming down and hanging out for a day or two
and then rolling on down south. So it could be good.
It could be really good in that.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Regard to well, Jay, It's always great to catch up.
It's been too long. Everybody check out Jay Anglin England Outdoors,
follow him and all the social stuff. He's fun guy
to post, puts a lot of great material out there,
and you're a great contributor here in Indiana Outdoors and
we appreciate everything that you give to us. So I
wish you well, my friend, and we will be back
here together, hopefully in a few more weeks to get
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an update as the leaves turn and come off and
Jay Anglin's out doing what he does. Thanks for being
with us, my friend.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh, I always love being here.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Everybody be safe out there and to go out and
enjoy the outdoors in this great state.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Couldn't have said that any better way to go. Talk
to you soon, my friend. It is the Indiana Outdoor Show.
I am your host. We covered a lot of topics there.
We got many more to go. Don't you think about
going anywhere. We're going to talk to our friends in
the DNR about some new license requirements. It's the Indiana
Outdoor Show.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
And so great to be with you each and every week.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Think those stations are carry us. It is the Indiana
Outdoor Show and I your host, Brian Pointer. Many thanks
to Jay Anglin, our correspondent from the North. Great update.
So many things this time of the year. He went
through a litany of all of them, and we appreciate
that as always. As I mentioned earlier, some changes coming
and we are on the verge of archery season twenty
(18:28):
twenty five and deer season in Indiana, and I wanted
to make sure people understood if you're like me, you're
probably a last minute person from time to time. And
I invited Mary Hayes to join us. She's the Public
Engagement supervisor with our Indiana Department of Natural Resources. Mary,
it's great to visit with you what do our Indiana
deer hunters need to be paying attention to this year,
(18:51):
because I understand there's been some regulation changes.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Yes, yep, Brian, there have been regulation changes and where
we've updated our website and our hunting guide with those changes,
if you're okay with it. What I'd like to focus
on today is what I've been really pushing hard on
(19:15):
here within Fish and Wildlife, and that is how to
use our new license system.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yes, oh, yes, absolutely, because I'm a big fan and
I love the portal. But explain the changes, Explain how
to use it and what's going on.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Sure, and thank you for the opportunity. We're really trying
to get the word out to all of our hunters
and like you said, deer seasons coming up. In December
of twenty twenty four, we launched a new license system.
It's called the Activity Hub and it replaced the previous
license system that folks were used to. And so this
is our first deer season with that system. And so
(19:52):
what I want to encourage deer hunters to do be
not like Brian and be at the last minute, but
instead I throw.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It under the bus this early, throwing the hose. Well,
it was my fault.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
So yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
We would love for folks to go in, excuse me,
and log in now. And what that means is if
you're logging in for the first time, and you'll log
in at go outdoorsi ND dot com, you'll need to
look yourself up in the system and you'll need to
verify that all that information.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
About you is correct.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
And so that might take a couple other a couple
extra minutes, and then it might look different, well, it
will look different than what folks are used to in
the past. So there's the log in, making sure that
all the personal information is correct, making sure that one
hunter ed number is in there, whatever information folks need
(20:49):
in order to purchase a license, and then we encourage
folks to go ahead and buy those licenses because if
you encounter any issues, there's contact information there and we
have standing by, as they say, to answer questions via
email and phone. In particular, one of the big changes
(21:10):
has to do with and this language gets a little technical,
try to simplify it. If a customer, if a Hunter
had a child of theirs linked to their account, so
they could purchase a license for that child or update
their contact information, they'll need to go into the new
(21:31):
system and relink that child. Okay, so that's a bit
of a process, and we know deuse deer is this
weekend's very weekend, so we want to encourage folks to
go in and do that now. So again, if they
have issues, they can email or call us and we
can help them with that. Now, one thing I want
to point out is that there's a big difference between
(21:55):
the previous system and the new system, and that is
if a hunter had a child who was let's say
seventeen years old, they were linking that child as a child,
but in the current system, they would link that child
as a customer group. So a child was considered someone
(22:15):
under eighteen and now it's someone under thirteen. So that
difference is confusing some folks. Again, leave some time so
that you can link the person you want to to
your account and be able to buy that license for
that person, be able to check in dear for that person.
(22:35):
There are instructions online in the system. As you're looking
at the homepage bottom left, there are some health resources.
We've created a video for how to link your child
or someone else that you want to purchase a license for,
and that's on the DNR YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Well, it sounds like there's been a lot of effort
put into getting this out. And I did this exactly
what you say said oh good earlier because I was
curious about it. I found it intuitive, meaning it was
kind of self explanatory. But I'm kind of glad I
did it because you know, when the hunter goes and
they're preparing to get out, and then all of a
(23:14):
sudden they have venison on the ground and they have
to check in. And that's even after they bought their licenses.
But even a lot of folks who have lifetime licenses,
I still need from time to time to go in there.
And it was very helpful. So I appreciate the tutorial there.
What else do people need to be aware of?
Speaker 5 (23:33):
So one of the enhancements, if you will, from the
new system is that there's no charge to check in
your game via the phone system. Do we have an
automated phone system and you call that number and you'll
check it in. You just have to have your customer
ID number, another couple of other pieces of information, and
(23:57):
you can easily do it without even having to go
into the system. You can do that for on behalf
of a child, and you can do that on behalf
of someone over thirteen as well, as long as you
have their customer ID number.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That is a key piece.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
If you have the customer ID number written down somewhere,
it will make a hunter's life much easier. If you
have that piece of information, we can look people up
in the system much more easily and then troubleshoot for you.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
What happens a lot, Brian.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Is that people will have duplicate accounts, and so they'll
get in there, they'll try to find their account, they
won't be able to find it, and it turns out
there might be three or four accounts for the same person.
And you know how that is when you're trying to
buy something online. You can't find yourself, you can't remember
your passwords. It's just like forget it. I'll just create
a new account, which is fine in the moment, but
(24:52):
then later it kind of comes back and becomes a problem.
So that's another reason to get in early so that
we can help folks with that. If the system tells
them that are multiple accounts, are going to have to
call us.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I tell you you do your job real well. That
was a very nice explanation and I always encourage people
to pick up the Hunting Guide because this is a
great resource. I usually selfishly take two or three because
I keep one at home, I keep one in my car,
and usually one ends up in my pack somewhere wherever
I'm going hunting. And it's very, very helpful. So all
this can be found either online and also on the
(25:30):
Hunting Guide.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Correct, that's right.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
And if I have one piece of advice for hunters
out there, if what I have said is confusing, just
go to go Outdoors. I en dot Com and start
the process. Just go step by step, and when you
encounter an issue, email us or give us a call.
That contact information is there and we're here. We are
(25:54):
staffed up to help folks through this first year of
deer season with our new license system. And we were
just in a meeting right here in this room, five
of us who are helping with those customer inquiries. We've
got about fifty to sixty staff members. It's not part
(26:15):
of their normal day job, but we've got fifty to
sixty folks helping, and then five of us were sitting
here and the thing that inspires and motivates us is getting.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
People in the field Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Friday, we are really going to be pulling out all
the stops to make sure those parents who want to
take their kids out this weekend have what they need.
But the message I tell them is help us, help
you by going in today or tonight or tomorrow, not
Saturday morning, because that's a recipe for disappointment for kids
(26:48):
and parents alike. So noted that would be my message.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Mary. As always, you do great work in the entire
department and division. Efficient Wildlife should be congratulated. Great work
upgrading all the system stuff. Yeahppreciate you giving us some
time on Indian Outdoors, and we won't make you wait
too long. We'll probably have you back and have some
more conversation about this in dear season. So thanks for
being with us.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Mary, my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
It is the Indiana Outdoor Show. What a great one
we've had this morning. We look forward to so much
more when we return. It's the Indiana Outdoor Show, and
(27:35):
what would Indiana Outdoors be without so many great guests.
We appreciate all those our department announced resources. Make sure
you go check out the new check system online and
license purchase system as Mary just described, and our great
friend Jay Anglan, England Outdoors our correspondent from the north.
(27:55):
It has been great. I your host, Brian Pointer, It's
Indiana Outdoors. We appreciate you on this verge of the
opening of Indiana deer season. A lot of things happening.
Speaking of a lot of things happening, one of my
favorite organizations are Friends at the Sportsmen's Alliance. Always regular
contributors here and always filled with great information. Brian Lynn
(28:17):
joins us, Brian, how you been What's going on with
our friends at the Sportsmen's Alliances? Seems to be a
quiet time, am I right?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
First, thanks for having us on. Happy to be here anytime. Yeah,
right now, it's a quiet time. Most states state legislatures
are in recess, and I've been in summer recess and
are taking it easy right now.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Things will start firing up.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Here, you know, towards the end of the year, getting
ready for the next session. We'll start seeing bills be
pre filed, probably in December time frame.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
And so it's a quiet time, which is good.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
It's nice sort I catch up on all my other
stuff and maintenance work and prepare for twenty twenty six,
which is then a sprint run from January to June
where it's NonStop across the country.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yes, indeed, and I'm glad we caught you at a
moment where maybe we can focus on some other things
besides what the wackados are doing across the country, which
you're always so great at. I believe that joining an
organization like the Alliance, the Sportsmen's Alliance, is so important
for people because we get so busy in our heads
(29:33):
down and you guys are out banging your heads against
the wall across the country and all the legislatures and
following national stuff that effectively is going to come to
bear if we don't have people like you. I know
your organization is so good at this, but I think
you'd have to agree being a part of a group
that advocates for hunting, fishing, trapping rights is so important
(29:54):
and there's none better than what you guys do.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
And I personally to have a philosophy myself that you
need to belong to a you know, firearms group, whichever
one that is that defends their firearms rights and the
Second Amendment.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Pick your favorite critter group, whether that's.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Elk or deer, or ducks or pheasants or whatever. Enjoin
that and then join the Sportsman's Alliance or a similar
group that is out there protecting those hunting and fishing
rights that you know allow you to chase that critter,
and you know you can go brokes, try and support
all the nonprofits out there, but pick your favorite critter,
your guns, and your hunting right advocacy groups.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I couldn't have said that any better. And if I
can hop on this just for a second. So the deer,
the ducks, the turkeys, the elks, the quail, the pheasant,
they all have these great organizations. Supporting one helps everything.
Meaning if you're an avid Ducks unlimited fan, and you
know I'm I'm heavily invested in ducks, but I'm also
(30:57):
knowing that if you if you have clean water, you're
going to have better here and better turkey and better
songbirds and other things. So your point is so well
made that just pick one, because they all do great
work for conservation, and that is something that I'm going
to steal that one. That's a good one, Brian, you
bet you so tell me what you guys have other
(31:19):
resources that I really use in value that when you
join an organization and you say, well, what are we
even talking about here? You provide it pretty easily for
folks when you become a member. What are some of
the resources that they can jump onto.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, you can just go to our website Sportsmen's Alliance
dot org and our Legislative Action Center is up and going.
And so then the session kicks off. We have a
heat map that as bills get introduced in states, the
state starts to light up darker and darker orange. You
can click on that state and see every bill that's
(31:54):
been introduced that impacts hunting, fishing, trapping, dogs gain commissions,
and you can sort them by that to see what's introduced.
See where we stand, so you know it a lot
of it. We monitor it first. And then the second
step you can take is signing up for your alert
system for your state. So you type in your name
(32:17):
and email and your zip code, and when we feel
there's an alert that you need to call a legislator
or send an email to a commission group or whatever,
we send out the alert. It's your email box and
you get that alert then and then you can take
action to protect your rights.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
In your state.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Well, you guys are covering the entire country, plus the
national stuff, and it's so great to catch you at
a time where we're not harping on what seems to
be your regular litany of issues across the country, whether
it's the East Coast and whatever their issues are, and
then the West Coast with wolves and other things that
we've been tracking that you keep us informed of. I
(32:59):
can't wait to call you back when we are in
the midst of some fights and you guys are fully engaged.
And people in Indiana need to be paying attention because
eventually it's going to come back, because whatever happens out West,
Doud East, somewhere else in the country, ultimately we're going
to end up with issues like that. So advocacy is
very important. And I think your message today of joining
Sportsman's Alliance is a good one. Brian. I'm just going
(33:22):
to give you the last minute here just to kind
of say anything else that people need to be aware
of or should be aware of.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Well, that's the big stuff is you pretty much said
it just perfectly. What happens elsewhere elsewhere will eventually find
its way to Indiana. There are great states in this country.
Indiana is one of them where you usually don't have
a lot of problems. Prepare now because they will be
coming from the east and the west, and those policies
(33:49):
will migrate inwards to the center of the country, the
heart of the country where hunting and fishing are valued.
So prepare now and put up a strong front so
they never get today.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Amen, Brian, great to visit with you. Join the Sportsman's Alliance.
Just check them out Sportsmen's Alliance, and we appreciate you
and all the great work that you do. We'll look
forward to catching up with you later this year when
things really get fired up. Brian Lynn, thanks so much
for being with us. You bet you, thank you, my pleasure.
It is the Indiana Outdoor Show, great organization, one of
my favorites. We appreciate him and all the great work
(34:23):
they do, and we appreciate you. Don't think about going anywhere.
The Indiana Outdoor Show continues right after this and so
(34:47):
much fun, so many things covered today. My gosh, it
is the Indiana Outdoor Show. And so grateful to be
your host for all these years. It is a great
time of Indiana Outdoors calendar, if you will. So many
things converge starting the end of September and October. We've
(35:08):
had early migratory season already in place, squirrel seasons in place.
Fishing has been great, We've got dove seasons. So many
things are the rituals and rights that have carried generation
to generation. And then we get into the big boy
stuff here with deer season, archery opening lots and lots.
(35:29):
Great to visit with Jay Anglin. It's been a minute,
but as you heard him say, he affirmed what I thought.
Fall fishing smallmouth great, we've got steelhead, We've got all
kinds of stuff going on. Muskie fishing great time of
the year and fall, and Indiana is blessed to be
one of the destination points in the Midwest, if not
one of the premiere for that species. A lot of
(35:51):
folks taking to lakes up in northern Indiana. Also very
important message from our Department of Natural Resources. You heard
Mary Hayes talk about the new license purchase system that
was upgraded and will require a couple extra steps for
those that are used to the way the old system was.
I went and did this a couple weeks ago, and
(36:11):
it was intuitive, but I'm glad I did it just
to get familiar with it. And she encourages all to
do the same and kind of don't wait to that
last minute before you need to go out, especially if
you've got kids that you've bought licenses for in the past.
Just go and try it. Trust me, I did it,
You can do it. Brian Lynn not a great lot
(36:31):
of not a lot of activity going on because we're
in kind of that lull nationally and state legislature. So
it was great to visit with him and talk about
the importance of joining organizations none better than the Sportsman's Alliance. Folks.
Great to be with you in the Indiana Outdoor Studios.
Hopefully you find somewhere in field or forest soon to
enjoy what we got here. And as we always do,
(36:52):
remember folks, turn in a poacher one eight hundred tip IDNR.
Take it with you, folks, see you next week, see outside,
be safe. Everybody think the st
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