December 10, 2025 • 46 mins
Segment 1: Former Colts TE, and former teammate of new Colts QB Philip Rivers
Segment 2: New Pacers player Ethan Thompson
Segment 3: Former NFL QB, current analyst Boomer Esiason
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Tight end, Jack Doyle getting not only a touchdown but
the two point conversion from Philip Rivers.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That was Was that the last.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Time that Philip Rivers threw a touchdown for the Indianapolis
Colts mark or is that just the one we found?
I know I might be asking for too much there,
but either way, those guys hooked up a few times
for touchdowns and Kevin did a nice job lining this
up finding Jack Doyle, who's joining us now on the
Payless Liquors Hotline this morning. Does that bring any memories
back for you? You ready to come back and play and
(00:56):
maybe back up Tyler Warren?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
We ready to go, ye know about all that, but
that definitely brings back some good memories and you know,
it also brings back man, I wish we would have
won that freaking playoff game in Buffalo. It is what
it makes me think. But but no, that was fun
and obviously getting that year with Philip was it was
it was a was a blast.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Jack that that two point conversion was a hell of
a catch.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I just went back and watched it.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, No, that was a that was a Philip play,
you know, and it was a you know, we were
in I think we were in twelve personnel. I think
it was me and Trey out there, and Phil knew
how to get you know, the sub guy went unguarded
Trey and then you know he kind of got doubled
in the middle, so we knew I'd be opening the
back and again that was That's a credit to what
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Philip could draw up, man, and he kind of saw
that on film and we knew that was a two
point play going into the game.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Well, as Jeff said, we appreciate the time here Jack
Doyle with us on the Payloff Stickers hotline. We traded
a few texts yesterday. Your response football is life for
mister Rivers. Could you touch on the football obsession. We're
in COVID year that you got to witness with Philip Rivers.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, you know that was a shout out to the
Ted Lasso fans and Danny rohaustin football his life. That's
what I think about when I think of Philip. You know,
you know, the thing that comes to mind with Philip
is just he's such a unique character. And I say
that in the best way possible. And this guy is
just a football junkie and it's football the time, and
you know, he was such a great teammate in his mind.
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You know, that's what I couldn't get over, just how
he just would get us in the right play over
and over and that's run and pass, and you know,
you could we would be sitting in a meeting and
you know, say we're preparing for the Steelers or something,
and there, you know, heavy sass pressure and Philip would
be like, oh yeah, you know talking to Nick Giriana,
Nick Gianni who was off in square of time. Oh,
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I remember we we had this with the Chargers in fourteen.
I think it was like, you know, our second drive
of the third quarter. Can you go look up that
play and show it to the guys. And it'd be
like right on point. He knew exactly what play it was,
what would the pressure was, and how they kind of
attacked it, and it's just a It just shows how
his brain kind of works and how he's wired.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Jack, Thanks again for joining the show. James Boyd. Here,
I'm going to ask the hard hitting questions on this show.
So with Philip Rivers and him knowing notoriously not to curse,
is he the best trash talker who doesn't say any
bad words.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yes, he's the best trash talker period that I ever
played with. Okay, I mean he does not stop, and
it's all in fun and he's just the ultimate competitor
and he gets under guy's skin which is hilarious. And
he's just such a great teammate. You know that's you know,
not knowing anything about him, and he you know, he
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when he showed up in twenty twenty, and you know,
I'm you know, I'm thinking that my memory of Philip
Rivers is like, Man, I didn't like this guy. You know,
I was a Colts fan growing up, and you know
he knocked the Colts out of the playoffs there in
the two thousands or whatever. I can't remember the years,
but you know, and he was always talking the fans.
I'm like, man, I don't like this guy that he
came in and he just carries himself in a way
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that like all he wanted to do was be a
good teammate, get to know his get to know the
other players, and just be one of the guys. And
I just have so much respect for him.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
I need Philip Rivers micd up immediately, like from the
time he lands in Indianapolis to get ready for practice today.
But one more and more serious note, when you look
at his career, the man is accomplished darn near everything
in the NFL, say for the Super Bowl win, but
counting stats, longevity, respect from peers, all of that. So
when you factor in perhaps the respect that he still
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has in that locker room, how much do you think
that helps? Because you know, unlike someone who normally we
stepping into these disposition, he still knows I would say,
what ten starters for the Colts right now, or at
least about seven or eight. So do you think that'll
help just him ease back into things when it comes
to trying to restart his NFL.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Career, Yeah, for sure. I mean, I mean, the cults
are real on a little bit over this past month,
and I wish I was in the Wednesday Offensive meeting
that's coming up, you know, probably here in the next
hour or so. And and just the energy that Philip's
going to bring to that room is something that's unmatched.
And and I can imagine being up there, and you know,
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who knows what's going to happen, but him going through
you know, the you know, the his cadence and and
how his kind of tone is with his cadence, and
and and all kinds of different things. He just he's
going to bring an energy to that group and and
and hopefully kind of wake us up over there on
West fifty sixth Street.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
What what do you think this offense with him under center,
coming out of a five year retirement, what's it going
to look like? Realistically? Tell us what those first two
series are going to be.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Well, he'll have no like, the plays will be the same.
He'll have no problem, you know, knowing the play calls.
He can show up there and and and call any
play that they're running right now. You know, maybe the
checks and things like that, you know, they'll have to
kind of you know, figure out because maybe Daniel had
things a certain way or you know, stuff from his
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past that they've kind of emulated in their offense. But
he'll he'll know what he's doing, He'll and he'll be
able to communicate with the guys. You know, if I
had to guess, I could see them going some sort
of up tempo and just kind of trying to keep
it simple and you know, him getting you in the
right play and maybe that takes the crowd out of
it a little bit and he's able to communicate and
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just getting guys up to the line and just figuring
out the you know, the best play for the Colts
to be in.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Are the Seahawks just going to throw the kitchen sink
at him from a blitz pack In his perspective.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yes, I mean that's what I would do. And you
know they're gonna have to prove, you know, and the
Colts kind of got to prove that anyways they get
they got to gash somebody with with with all the
pressure they're seeing, you know, in the run or pass game,
it doesn't really matter. But the thing about Phil is like,
like like I was mentioning earlier, he's seen every blitz
and you know, Phil, there was times when hell out
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the defensive guy for saying, you know, you know, telling
the linebacker he's supposed to be bossed over a little
more because they're about to bring this SaaS pressure or
whatever it is, Like, Hey, you're miss aligned. Your coach
is gonna yell at you like you're supposed to be.
He just he is. He's so unique. The way his
brain works is just awesome. I mean, lay in that
twenty year I feel like a lot of my catches
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were on checks that he made at the line for
just from seeing, you know, different things. We'd be in
a run call and he sees a pressure coming and
he'd get us in a in a quick pass or
something like that to kind of take advantage of it.
So they're just again, his brain is just so unique
in the way it's wired. And if anybody can do this,
I mean, it's it's freaking Philip Rivers.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
That's Jack Doyle Jack Oil podcast over in the Colts
Audio Network's been a great listen all year long with
Jack and Matt Taylor, and Jack's with us here on
the Payloss Slickers Hotline. Jack and I don't remember I
think it's been a trend a little bit more here
in recent years league wide, the Colts have definitely started it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Did.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Did Frank do walk through Wednesdays late in seasons very
often with you guys.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
You know, I thinking back, we were doing walkthrough I
feel like we were doing them on Thursdays. I don't
know if that's right. I might be completely wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Practice walk through Thursday walk through.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, and given guys a day in the middle of
it was kind of our schedule. But yeah, I think
I think especially when they added the extra game, I
think that's probably when it became more prevalent around the league.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Yeah, and I bring that up. The Colts have done
the walk through Wednesday last two weeks since the signing
of Philip Rivers yesterday, they now have changed their practice schedule.
They'll go all three days starting today, Thursday and Friday.
Last one from me, and it's just more of a
reminiscing story the Josh Freeman Ryan Linley week for you guys.
This is I would say this is probably the most
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dire in season weekly quarterback situation I can recall for
the Colts since that week. I forget which season was
fifteen sixteen something like that. What do you remember about
that week in which you guys literally had to get
two quarterbacks ready to play.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, I think it was the last game of twenty fifteen,
and yeah, we went in with I remember Clyde going
up there and kind of going through, you know, the
game playing with the quarterbacks, and Josh Freeman did all
the you know, bass stuff right, and he was running
the offense. And then Ryan Limley came in on two
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minute drill and that's how they kind of prepared him
both and they both were successful. I think Ryan Limley,
I don't know if we went down and got a touchdown,
but there was a two minute drill in that game
where I know we went down and got points. So yeah,
it worked out well. But you know, the thing that
I remember most is, you know, it was late in
the year and you know, obviously we had you know,
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we had lost Andrew and then I think we had
lost and then Matt got hurt down in Miami the
game before, and you know, you kind of walk in
there with you know, your head it's kind of hanging low,
and then you kind of walking back up by this
you know, new point and and and everyone's kind of
rejuvenized and and and you go out there and just
play football and see what happens. So hopefully, you know,
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Philip can have that kind of effect on the on
the locker room coming in today.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Last thing, I gotta know, Jacket, honestly, after you heard
about this last night, you and any of your former
teammates have any kind of a text chain going on
about can.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You believe this? Or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, you know, I was texted with Moe ali Cox
yesterday and I was just like, Mo, you could write
a book on your story as a colts player. I mean,
all the stuff that's kind of you know, you know
going on with you know, obviously Andrew's retirement, and you know,
Jeff Saturday coming in to coach, and then now this.
I mean, he's just he's he's been through it in
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his career. But man, it's gonna be a heck again.
I I have no reason to doubt Philip Rivers. I
know there's people saying, you know, some people are laughing
at this, it's calling it crazy, all that fun stuff.
But Philp's got to prove to me that he can't
do it, because you know, I won't doubt that man
for one second.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Good stuff Jack, thanks for joining us. We appreciate that
you're teaching high school right now, right middle school, middle school.
I'm off today though, just Monday Fridays sounds good.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Enjoy it. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks Jack.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Thank God.
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Speaker 2 (11:47):
This guy really impressed me.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
As a matter of fact, my buddy Michael, my buddy
Michael ware goes to the Pacer games with me, and
Michael is a huge Pacer fan, right, and then after
the games he always like sends me his observations of
the game and that kind of thing. And he sends
me a message the other day that simply says, thanks
again for the invite last night. Nice win and go
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Ethan Thompson and I'm because we're watching it and he's like, man,
this guy's out there hustling, making every play and he
joins us on the program.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Now.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
He is a new member of the Indiana Pacers, and
he was I believe in an NBA starter. Am I
correct Ethan Thompson saying, game number four of your NBA career,
you're starting, correct.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, yeah, that is correct. That is correct.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Is a great transition for sir. I mean this, this
whole week has been you know dream come true of
you know, getting this opportunity and then you know being
able to you know, get used to the team, and
then you know, just try trying to find my way
to make an impact and try to win a game.
So just doing what I can.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Well, I want to get to this because the way
you make an impact. Now, you know, I noticed in
the fourth quarter of that game against Sacramento, there was
at one point in that game, Ethan, there were three
straight possessions where you either kept the ball alive on
an offensive rebound or tapped out defensive rebounds and just
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putting yourself hustle plays quite frankly, to keep possessions alive
or to prohibit Sacramento from getting a second look at things.
And then I looked at it, and I'm like, you
were a five star recruit. You grew up in California,
You're a five star recruit. You go to Oregon State,
you play obviously in a big conference. When did you
realize that and how did you manage to transition from
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being a guy that spent the majority of your career
is the mainline player to now a guy that has
to be a complimentary player.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Yeah, I mean, I think it is goes back to,
you know, my understanding of the game and how it
was taught. So I got to credit my dad. He's
taught me everything that I know. All the coaches that
I've had growing up have given me a great foundation
of know what winning basketball is. And you know, it's
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not always that you got to be the one that's
hitting the shots to make an impact on the game,
but whether it's spacing the floor properly, you know, making
the hustle plays, making the right reads offensively, defensively, and
then yeah, just doing whatever it takes. And then you know,
having that that fabric, you know, could could lead to
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you being the guy for you know, for in my case,
you know, the majority of my career and then but
then in this situation, I still have that same fabric
of whatever it takes to win and at the end
of the day, just the competitors. So going out there
and competing however I can.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Now your father obviously was a coach when you were
growing up. I believe is he's still on staff at
Oregon State. I know he was at one time.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, he's still on staff.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
He had got the job I think going.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
Into my sophomore year high school, and then I got
the opportunity to play with play play for him, and
then with my older brother as well, Steven Thompson Junior.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
This has to be a record. I don't know if
this is correct. This has to be a record than Thompson.
You started every game. You played every game in Oregon
State and started every game. Is that correct?
Speaker 8 (15:09):
Yeah? I believe I do have the record in starts,
and I want to. I don't know about most games played,
but most games started, for sure.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I know that one hundred and twenty seven of one
hundred and twenty seven, and I would imagine if I
were you, I would be regularly emailing and or sending
that statistic to Gary Payton and just remind him of it.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Right right right now. It is great to be in
great company and to you know, have my name probably
like two or three starts above him, but like you know,
it's definitely great to be Vietna company, for.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Sure, Okay, So you have played in your professional career,
you have played in the G League, you have played
in Mexico, you have played in Puerto Rico, which I
know that you have also played for the Puerto Rican
national team. Right, you have played back into I believe
the G League for the Magic organization. Then two falls
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and now here. Okay, So how long does it take
you to acclimate to new roster and learn the system
that Indiana's running.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
Yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's not that that
difficult of an acclamation, uh, you know to this team
because they got a lot of that got a lot
of guys that can play the right way. They know
how to play the right way, and you know, that's
the testament to you know, how coach has has been
building this team for you know, not just this year,
but like years before as well. So you know, at
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at the end of the day, it's just basketball and
being able to make the right reads.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
You know.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
The probably the toughest part of the transition was just
learning the different terminology.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
A lot of teams use you.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Know, different different language for different actions on the court,
different positions, so, uh, trying to use the right terminology
and be on the same page with that, with with
my teammates, and and they've done a job of getting me,
you know, on the same page as well, So it's
been good.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
The newest page, Ethan Thompson is my guest. He's on
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Speaker 4 (17:02):
Line.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
When you arrived with this franchise, what player on the
roster for the Pacers was the one that was the
most open to basically saying to you know, kind of
immediately took you under their wing. Which one would that be?
Speaker 8 (17:19):
I must say I've played Summer League a few years ago,
so like I've I've had a relationship with the guys,
with the majority of guys, but I will say that
Jay huff has has done a good job of you know,
kind of taking me under his wing. You know, he's
been in a similar position that I've been been battling
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it in the G League and then you know, he's
been able to make his mark in the NBA as well.
And now he's kind of been talking to me, encouraging me,
and you know, really being that voice and reassurance of
you know, confidence and everything, like calming me down if
I'm you know, nervous or whatever it is. But you
know he's than that, than that constant voice for sure.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Is it hard to when you are in and I'm
going to say this respectfully, Ethan, but I think you'll
understand what I mean when you so far are in
kind of a vagabond career right where you're going and
you're playing for different teams. Is it difficult in a
situation to hone in on what it is that the
Pacers need you to do as opposed to taking the
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opportunity to showcase what you can do elsewhere for other
teams to see. Does that make sense what I'm asking
for sure?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I mean, is.
Speaker 8 (18:35):
It's not too difficult for me because for me, one
of the big things that I've learned, you know, throughout
the course of my career at which I have been
on you know, many G League situations trying to make
it is kind of just being where your feet are
and not not worrying about the future, not worrying about
you know, what comes next, because you got to make
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the most of where you're at now. And that's something
that's really kept me ground und it and you know
kind of been uh in the back of my mind
on you know, how can I help the Pacers, not necessarily,
you know, trying to show what I can do for
other teams is the situation I'm in now, and I
think that will lead to, you know, more opportunity of
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you know, showcasing everything I could do, but still with
the intention of helping the pacers.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Now, when you were in high school in California, if
I'm not mistaken in this, in the California High School Tournament,
did you knock out the team that had all of
the the LaMelo and LiAngelo and and all the brothers
on it.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Yeah, So my junior year, when Lonzo was still a senior,
we lost to them in lost the if. But then uh,
the year after we had ended up beating them, and
my senior year, Alonzo left by LaMelo Jello. Uh, they
still have had a few other few other guys that
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went on to play college and in the NBA as well.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
So now now was their dad on the sidelines. Was
their dad crazy the whole time?
Speaker 8 (20:04):
Yeah, I mean I want to use the term crazy,
but he's been you know, super supportive and very into it.
But yeah, it's always been. It's always been good to
play against them because you know, it's the environment that
they bring to the game, especially at you know when
we were in high school, high school basketball. You know
when I was in college, was or sorry, high school
basketball when I was in high school was you know,
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a fun thing to be a part of. The games
are always so about, so it.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Was it was very fun when you grow up.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
You know, we know of here the great players from
southern California. I mean it goes without saying. You just
mentioned three of them. You had to play, right.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
We feel in Indiana like the other forty nine states
look at Indiana as a basketball mecca. Now you're from California,
what is your perception of Indiana basketball?
Speaker 8 (20:53):
No, for sure, I think of you know, great basketball.
You know Hardell's basketball as well, and you know a
long long history of of of talent and I And
that's something I'm glad that I that I have that
understanding of because I kind of got familiar with it when, uh,
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when I was with Oregon State and we had went
on that run to the lead date it was it
was hosted the that COVID year where everything where each
round was in Indiana and then you know, being out
here for for that like month and a half or whatever,
it was was, uh, you know, pretty cool just to
you know, learn the history of the city and get
to get a feel for the city.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Ethan, after after the win in Chicago, Rick Carlisle, you know,
went on to say like, hey, he was, you know,
in doing some scrimmages with you know, Quintin Jackson some
of the other guys in our trainers, and I had
to call the trainer like, hey, get him off the floor.
At what point, how did it feel like, I guess
in that moment to realize that you were going to
get your first like actual shot, I'm playing some meaningful
minutes in the NBA.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
Yeah for sure. I mean like usually after shoot around,
go back to the hotel, take a take a nap,
and you know that that during that time, my nap time,
basically I was my eyes are closed, but you know
I was still awake, just kind of trying to envision
everything that's gonna happen, and you know a lot of
a lot of nervous energy, but excited energy as well.
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And then you know, once once my name got called
the sub in and you know, a couple of possessions down,
I kind of got settled, and you know, it was
it was good from there, but definitely something that I've
been looking forward to, you know, my whole life, my
whole career, been working for that moment. So I'm glad
that I was able to experience that and just trying
to continue.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
To build off of it.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
So then, how did they tell you you're a starter?
When did take me through? What happens when they tell you,
by the way, you're starting against Sacramento.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Yeah, we were come into practice, I don't know if
it was the next day or a few days after
coming to practice, and we were about to watch film,
and then they have my initials up, uh for for
the matchups against Sacramento, and I was like, okay, yeah,
let's do it. Like you know, I was, I was excited.
And you know, getting that confidence from from everybody on
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a team, coaching staff you know, has been has helped
me a lot as well. So you know, I'm just
I'm just excited to be able to go out there
and compete with with this group. They've been you know,
very encouraging of me, and you know they want the
best for me as well.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
So most importantly and lastly with that, so you look up,
you see et right there as the starter, like not
the movie, the starter.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Right.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
So then, and this is the big thing. Every player
on this roster in the pregame stuff goes through a
line and has like a specific like handshake, dap up,
whatever you want to call it with TJ McConnell. Now,
how long did it take you to learn that? And
have you mastered what your specific one is? Because every
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players is different?
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Uh huh Now I haven't. I haven't mastered you know,
a specific one yet, but we we go work on
it for sure, for sure because I have something that
I have noticed that I gotta I gotta sit down
and talk with him.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, see that? So you notice that, right? I mean
literally every single guy, right.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Yeah, everybody. Everybody got their own unique handsake. So it's
pretty tough.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
And as a guard, everybody on the floor also has
their own kind of unique spots, right, how do you
learn that as a guard of just kind of understanding
where guys like their movement, where they like the ball,
where the set goes, et cetera. How long does it
take to learn that?
Speaker 8 (24:34):
It's it's something that you know, I've been been watching
film on before before I was even able to suit up.
But like I've I've been getting a good understanding of
how guys like to play, and you know, the coaching
staff has getting me used to like, Okay, if TJ
Is bringing up the floor, bringing up the floor, he
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usually likes to run this action. So if I'm in
this position, I do this, and if I'm in that position,
I do that. But kind of getting that understanding, uh,
you know, and not not necessarily takes time, but like
as you get more reps of it kind of becomes
second nature and you pick up on pattern. So definitely
something I've been trying to key on, you know, throughout
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these practice days and then uh, in the game, even
when I'm not in the game, just on the bench,
if I'm watching, I'm trying to you know, pick up
on those things as well.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
By the way, maybe he hasn't told you, but I'm
telling you right now. Your dad, when he was Stevie
Thompson at Syracuse was the truth man. Those Jimmy Man
had some hell of the teams and you know between
Derek Coleman and Sherman Douglas before your dad and Ronnie
Sykelee and then you know, people around here know about Syracuse, Paul,
Stevie Tompson the.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Ball many Yeah, I test me. I've heard his story
and and seen the film. Uh, you know, so it's
something that I've always get something I'm always you know,
grateful to have, you know, to be his son and
to be able to you know, carry on his name
as well. So I'm glad I got that.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Yeah, they had some heck of a teams back then,
and Crenshaw and high School and all of it. Love
love those those teams and those eras well. We certainly
wish you the best of luck.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Man.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
I appreciate the time today also having to be a
little bit flexible in the way that our schedule worked today, Ethan,
I certainly appreciate it, and we look forward to watching
more hustle plays.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
All right, definitely definitely appreciate you, all.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Right, much appreciated again.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
That is Ethan Thompson, the pride of Oregon State, his
dad Stevie Thompson. Right after Indiana won the national title
in eighty seven, you know, and those teams that Beheim had, Man,
they were loaded, and there were so many great players
that came out. You know, Shawn Higgins was out of
the like I think Fairfax in LA at the same
time when his dad was at Crenshaw and Special Times,
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Special Times and great players that have come from there.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
It's the best of the best for today's broadcast lineup. Instead,
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Speaker 2 (27:08):
Earlier this afternoon on a ride with JMV.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
A familiar voice the former NFL quarterback at the Fan
in New York CBS Sports Network, and the latest edition
of Peyton's Places is outstanding. As we're joined now by Boomers,
I said, hello, Boomer, how are you, Johnny?
Speaker 11 (27:28):
Thanks for having me on. I'm doing well and certainly
had a lot of fun with Peyton shooting that this
past summer. And Peyton's quite the comedian and so easy
to work off of for sure.
Speaker 10 (27:38):
Yeah, I say he like is reinventing roles before that
Dick Butkus and Bubba Smith and those long before him,
I think kind of installed, but he's taking it to
a different level here.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well.
Speaker 11 (27:52):
The thing I appreciated about Peyton is that he loves
ball when he loves the NFL, and he has the
ability financially, personality wise, and the understanding of how to
put something like Omaha Productions together, and he and his
brother Eli deserve a lot of credit for that because
they're making more money now than they ever did when
they played. And rightfully so, I mean, and just spending
(28:16):
a couple of hours with Peyton, because that's all it
took for us to shoot that Yeah, shows me that
he understands exactly how things need to get done quickly, decisively.
They have a great script writer, they have great ideas,
and it always goes back to the history of the NFL.
And that's what I love so much about Peyton and
what he's doing with Peyton's Place.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
And you could check that out the latest edition of
Peyton's Places. Boomera Siasin joins us. So last time you're on,
we talked about the renaissance campaign of Daniel Jones, which
since we last spoke has ended. And now it's just
kind of the last eight or so years of the
Colts in a nutshell here, everything kind of goes hey
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wire and wild, and you have Philip River first that
I think is likely going to start coming up on Sunday.
So let's start here. What would all this entail for
a quarterback having to come back and then start a
football game after not playing for the past five years,
no matter what level we're talking about here, Boomer.
Speaker 11 (29:14):
Well, well, let's first off with Daniel Jones. When we
last talked about Daniel and he was playing well, I
told you one of the things that was the problem
here in New York is that he couldn't make it
through a season. He kept getting hurt and every time
he got hurt, the team would fall apart. You know,
the team loved him, they respected him, they appreciated his leadership,
the way he went about his business. But it was
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a neck injury, it was a knee injury. I mean,
these were serious injuries and it meant so much to
him this year that he went out there with a
broken fibula to try to play through it. Maybe he
puts pressure on his left achilles and next thing you know,
that snap. So making prayers out to him, for sure,
we are sick to our stomach for him. We were
hoping for the best. We thought, you know, this could
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be one hundred and fifty million dollars contract coming his way,
given the way that he had started the first day game. So,
I mean, I feel sick for the young man. He's
a great young, great young guy, and hopefully he'll be
able to restart his career in another year or so.
Now that being said, that being said, you know, your
Philip Rivers, you haven't played football in eighteen hundred days.
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Think about that. The last game that he played was
back on January ninth, twenty twenty one, and it was
versus the Bills. You guys remember that game. That was
a fourth and goal if I remember, and the the
I think the Colts won for it, and Philip overthrew.
I forget whoever threw in the back of the end zone,
and that was Frank Wright was his coach. Yeah, and
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you know, unfortunately for Chris Ballard the Colts organization, they
are fans out there. This is nothing new for them.
I mean, you guys have been through this for the
last eight or nine years, ever since Andrew Luck decided
to retire. That you know, you think you finally got
the guy, and then all of a sudden, the guy
gets hurt and now you have to turn back to
the you know, the clocks. And I don't know what
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kind of condition Philip's in. I'm assuming that he took
very good care of himself. That he probably looked reasonable
on the practice field, but if he has to start
a game, I mean, I have to be realistic here.
His chance is for any sort of success. I mean
it's less than fifty to fifty I think. And hopefully
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they'll lean on Jonathan Taylor, which I'm sure they will,
and do a lot of play action passing and not
put Philip back there in a shotgun and protecting him
with five guys. That would be insane to me. So
Shane Steiken is going to have to go into his
bag of tricks if in fact, Philip ends up being
the starter for them.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
I do think, and I don't know how you feel
about this. Do you think he comes back if he
doesn't believe that he's going to be installed immediately? Do
you think he even jacks with this whatsoever? If there's
not that belief there. I mean, we don't know him,
we're not inside that brain. But what could he be
thinking surrounding this comeback? Because there's a lot of ramifications
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from it?
Speaker 11 (32:03):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean, you know, look, there's the ego
involved in everything else, and he probably loves being wanted.
You know. I thought maybe they'd call Matt Ryan, but
he weighs about a Buck twenty watching him on CBS now,
it's like he couldn't play football because he'd probably get
cut in halfs. But and I know the Colt actually
tried him that last year with Frank, So I don't know.
(32:25):
This is just a weird kind of deals. It's a
desperation move. There is no other choice other than maybe
Brett Rippon. Maybe they start him if they feel like
Philip's not ready. I mean, they're playing against the Seahawks,
who are one of the best teams in the league,
and they're playing in Seattle. With the defense that gets
after the quarterback, they have a lot of sacks. I mean,
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if Philip does play in this game, whether he's starting
it or ends up finishing it. If he does finish it,
I don't know, you're asking an awful lot, and I
think he's really taking an incredible risk if he steps
on that football field.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Did it shock you the moves and did you tell enough?
Speaker 11 (33:06):
It doesn't shock me because you know, there's there's desperation,
and there's desperation, and I think you know, given the
fact that the Colts have had a really good year
up until their last three games, I can understand why
Chris Ballard and the Colts would go down this road.
You know, they're going to try to save their season,
and this is it's nothing but a desperation move. I
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don't know how else you would describe it. And I'm
not saying they're doing the right thing or the wrong thing.
I'm just saying they're maybe doing the only thing that
they think gives them, you know, half of a chance
to win some of these games. And when you look
at their schedule, their strength of schedule here coming down
the end of the season is one of the toughest,
if not the toughest, in the league. And you look
at their last three games that they've lost. All you
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have to do is look at the giveaways, the sacks
in the past five games, and that tells you all
you need to know about this offense that seems to
have fallen apart for some reason and lost their way.
And I think a lot of that obviously has to
do with the injury of Daniel Jones, not just the achilles,
but the fibula injury that leads to him losing one
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of the most important aspects of his game, and that's
the ability to move and run with the football.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
That is boomeros Ayasin of the Fan in New York,
CBS Sports Network and more. You're catching him with Andy
Moore Automtive Group hotline. You're having a conversation, I think
on your show about what it would take to return,
like five years after I think you were out of
the NFL or whatever you hadn't thrown a football and
what it entails. And I know that was kind of
(34:39):
a funny conversation, but at the same time it was
ringing so true. There's one thing to talk about it,
or to throw it to nobody or to throw to
the equipment guy when you're all out there alone on
your field, but it's another thing to go against the
defense that hasn't allowed to score in like the last
two games and really comes hard after the quarterback. It
is absolutely shocking to think for me that Rivers will
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be out there on Sunday. But then again, I have
to understand this is the Colts, and really there's nothing
that would shock me decision wise about their path any longer.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So I actually expected.
Speaker 11 (35:13):
Boom well, you know the other thing too, and I
don't know if they would be thinking this way. You know,
they may just say throw Bret ripping out there. I
don't know, maybe get Philip in the game somewhere along
the line. I don't know. I can't put my own
brain in San Steiken's head and what he and Chris
Baward are talking about. You know, Seattle's only given up
nine points, as you were pointing out, in the last
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two games, and that's the fewest in the two games
span since twenty fourteen. That's how good their defense has
been playing. And I always say this, You know, you
can look at strength of schedule, but what does that
strength of schedule look like when that team arrives to
the stadium. So in the case of the Colts, they
have a very good record, so you say, okay, well
they got that would make them a tough out. That
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would be a that would be a big problem. But
the Colts come in now losing three in a row
and losing their starting quarterback and may have to rely
on a forty four year old quarterback. So where does
that really actually put that strength of schedule situation in
play here? It doesn't. I think this is when you
want to exactly catch the Colts, And this is the
Seahawks benefit from this. So and by the and On
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the other side, everybody's healthy and Jackson Smith and Jigbush
showed back up again last week. Sam Darnold has played
great for this team. I wonder if I think, in
the back of my mind, you know, maybe we kind
of give up this game. You're not thinking give up
the game, especially if you're a player putting the uniform on,
but maybe internally they're saying, you know, we're probably going
to lose this game. Let's see if we can make
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a final push those last three games when we're playing
teams within our division. But man, I mean, it's just
this is such an impossible situation for the Colts. And
I understand desperate times require desperate measures. And I would
say I'm rooting for Philip. I want them to do well,
but to inspect anything spectacular out of him is truly unrealistic.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Does this from the outside looking in? For you appear
to be a general manager and a head coach that
may be trying to save what possibly could be the
end for them as everything has fallen apart. Is this
part of the desperation move that you view from both
coach and general manager here?
Speaker 11 (37:22):
And Andy, No, I don't, I don't I think it's
a really unfortunate set of circumstances. And Chris Ballard, look,
you know he was part of firing my one of
my best friends in the whole world, Frank Reich. I
hold no ill will against that at all with him.
I know he's a really good general manager. I know
that he's built up a really good roster over the years.
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Frank always got the support that he needed from Chris
until you know, you know, mister Hearsay decided, you know,
enough's enough, and you know it's all. It always comes
back to the same thing. You know, who's the quarterback.
And when you look at the top twelve or fourteen
teams and you look at they are healthy quarterbacks that
are productive, those are the ones that are always going
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to go to the playoffs. And unfortunately for the Colts,
it's been the same thing now ever since Andrew Luck retired.
So I don't think Shane Steiken or Chris Ballard would
be in jeopardy. I really don't think that. And I
don't know if you know the new owner out there
standing on the sideline, she'd gets it. I think she
understands what has happened here. I mean, she seems like
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a very you know, intuitive person, seems like somebody that's
really gotten into the game of football, and she sees
the desperation in the stress that are on the faces.
I'm sure of her GM and her head coach. So
I mean, it's a really unfortunate set of circumstances. I
don't think they change. I just think that they have
to find themselves who they believe can be their next quarterback.
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And obviously next year is not going to be Daniel
Jones because he's not going to be ready.
Speaker 10 (38:52):
So Boomer asiza with us. I thought a tail of
the tape happened at the NFL trade deadline, and I
think if you believe regardless of the circumstances here since
Boom and whatever you think about Sauce Gardner, who is
now out with an injury. But I think when you say, okay,
you can trade these two first rounders of the future
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and bring in this guy because you want to win
in the now, and we've seen things dynamically change really
a one eighty from that point in time and now.
But I think when you do that, that to me,
you'll most tell everybody that these are my guys for
the future. I mean, maybe things can change, but I
don't know how much they will considering what was allowed
by Carly Ursa Gordon back during the NFL trade deadline,
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That's kind of how I view it, and short sided thinking.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I guess in this case.
Speaker 11 (39:40):
Well, I think they were going for it, and I
think they felt like they needed one thing and that
was going to be a shutdown corner. Now from the
other side, the Jet side, which we cover obviously every
day here, and the Jets are you a mega disaster
once again, just like they have been for the last
ten years, and as their season winds down, they fall apart,
and we're and kind of used to it. We actually
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thought that the general manager, Darren Moujie, did a great
job at the trade deadline trading both Sauce Gardner to
the Colts, and then of course Quinn Williams did the
Dallas Cowboys and acquiring the assets they need to rebuild
this franchise and to try to get their own franchise quarterback.
So we felt like the Jets did the one hundred
percent right thing. And again it's just really unfortunate that
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a very talented player ends up, you know, straining a calf,
and I don't know if your listeners feel this way
out there, but I've said this a thousand times here
in New York. When their calf is involved, the next
thing that goes is the Achilles. And that's why you
have to be really, really really careful with an achilles
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or a calf injury. And you know, you saw that
with Tyres Halliburton. We saw it, you know, last year
with the Boston Celtics. We've seen it, you know, so
many times Aaron Rodgers. I mean, any sort of calf
injury can easily lead to a pop achilles. And that's
the last thing that you would want to have happened
to Sauce Gardner. So again three injuries too, by the way,
to Forrest Buckner. That's another huge injury. So those are
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things that I'm sure missus, irsy or you say Gordon
is basically hash to take into account when it comes to,
you know, whether or not she's going to blow out
the whole front office and the coaching stuff. I just
don't see that happening. I don't think that would be
a prudent move.
Speaker 10 (41:22):
I'm going to double back to Daniel Jones. I happen
to think that Daniel Jones, who will resign here and
clearly not for the amount of money that he would
have resigned for here. But I think that he resigns here.
I think they like him enough, and I think next year,
I think they're going to wait. I think really all
three quarterbacks that have been in the fold, that includes
in this case Riley Leonard who's also dinged up in
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Anthony Richardson. I think all three of these dudes are
going to be back coming up next year.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
That's at least because you.
Speaker 10 (41:48):
Look at the free agency on the lack of assets,
I don't know really what choice unless they do blow
it up the Coults are going to have with that
in mind.
Speaker 11 (41:56):
Yeah, Well, the only thing that I would say in
reverse to Daniel Jones, it's the same thing. It's you know,
what's what's it gonna hurt next or two years from now,
because I doubt he'll play next year. I mean, I
know that Deshaun Watson had the same injury around the
same time last year, and he is just getting onto
the onto the practice field now and they're not going
to put him out on the field in these last
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four games regardless. So I think that Daniel would be
in the same spot. Maybe he does sign a contract
with the Colts. Maybe he takes a year off and
doesn't sign and then resigns back with the Colts. I
don't know. I don't know what that situation's going to encounter,
because whatever they give him, they're going to have to
absorb on the salary cap and there's a whole other
set of circumstances that you got to take into account.
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But you know, my thing with Daniel Jones would be,
I'm not I can't give you a long term, big money,
guaranteed contract. I just can't because your history is such
that you have serious injuries that forces you to lead, uh,
you know, lose an inordinate amount of games, and usually
the team collapses around owned you when that happens. And
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that's been his moniker unfortunately in his entire career, except
the one year that they went to the playoffs and
they beat the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 10 (43:08):
Ta boomer assized him with us before I let you go,
I got to get your thoughts on the one seed
in the college playoff As a Maryland man, I'm sure
you've recognized the futility over the years of AYU football.
Can you believe what you've witnessed under Kurt Signetti in
the last two and then once you have witnessed this
last weekend viding Ohio stead and being the number one
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overall seed of the college Football Playoff, what do you
think about these Osiers?
Speaker 11 (43:32):
So I think they're great. You know, they went into
Maryland and Mendoza in company just absolutely steamrolled our team.
And I think our team is going to be steamrolled
for the next five years. So I can I'm getting
used to it, but I will say what Kurt has
done out there has been remarkable. The fact that he
was able to get Mendoza to come there and then
have Mendoza Fernando played the way that he has played,
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It's been terrific. You know, it wasn't pretty against the
Ohio State, but those games sometimes are the best games.
They're tight, they're defensive oriented, they're looking for somebody to
make a mistake or somebody to make a misplay, and
then all of a sudden you have your upset. What
will be interesting for Indiana will be Okay, let's be
ready for our first game once we get through the
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by and then I think we all think that they're
going to be a team that's going to see Ohio
State again, and can they beat them twice within six weeks,
that would be the real cream on the top. So
I love for Nana Mendoza. I think he's a great player.
I think he's going to make a really good professional quarterback.
I think he's smart, he's big, he's strong, can make
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every throw, he's athletic, and you know, the thing that
I like about him most just this whole attitude about
life and the way that he carries himself is personal
story with his mom dealing with multiple sclerosis and how
their bond has basically given him strength. So I appreciate
all of that. So I'm rooting for Indiana.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Believe it.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah you think you WANs the Heisman?
Speaker 11 (44:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't see why. I mean, I
know there will be some other you know, these guys
you know from Vanderbilt. What Pavia, I guess is getting
some late push here, you know, because he played in
the SEC.
Speaker 8 (45:12):
But I don't know.
Speaker 11 (45:13):
I think I feel like Fernando Mendoza played almost a
perfect year. You almost had like a perfect season. I
know the numbers aren't what some past Heisman Trophy winning
quarterbacks have had, but I mean, all he did was
lead his team to an eleven and o season. I
know they've got a good defense, that's that's part of it.
It's a team game. But Fernando is the unquestioned leader
of that team, and I thought he had a really,
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really clean year and did nothing but enhance his pro
stock ability. So I think he's gonna win it.
Speaker 10 (45:42):
You can find him at seven Boomerasiasin on x He's
at the fan of New York. You can catch him
on CBS Sports Network and in the latest edition of
Peyton's Places. You can check that out too. It's Boomrasiasin
on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. Boomer, Man, it
is outstanding. We will catch up again soon. But I
had to get your thoughts on Philip Rivers coming up
(46:04):
on Sunday. That is gonna be watched. It'll be interesting
if he gets out there and plays.
Speaker 11 (46:09):
If nothing else, if people run by Philip, if you've
run by Philip at any point, just thought to know
that Boomers saying his prayers for him.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah, you gotta I appreciate it, Boomer.
Speaker 11 (46:18):
Okay, thanks, Boomers.
Speaker 10 (46:20):
Size on the Anymore Automotive Proof potline. We shall pass
that along to Philip Rivers from Boomera's Eyes.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Tight end, Jack Doyle getting not only a touchdown but
the two point conversion from Philip Rivers.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That was Was that the last.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Time that Philip Rivers threw a touchdown for the Indianapolis
Colts mark or is that just the one we found?
I know I might be asking for too much there,
but either way, those guys hooked up a few times
for touchdowns and Kevin did a nice job lining this
up finding Jack Doyle, who's joining us now on the
Payless Liquors Hotline this morning. Does that bring any memories
back for you? You ready to come back and play and
(00:56):
maybe back up Tyler Warren?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
We ready to go, ye know about all that, but
that definitely brings back some good memories and you know,
it also brings back man, I wish we would have
won that freaking playoff game in Buffalo. It is what
it makes me think. But but no, that was fun
and obviously getting that year with Philip was it was
it was a was a blast.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Jack that that two point conversion was a hell of
a catch.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I just went back and watched it.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, No, that was a that was a Philip play,
you know, and it was a you know, we were
in I think we were in twelve personnel. I think
it was me and Trey out there, and Phil knew
how to get you know, the sub guy went unguarded
Trey and then you know he kind of got doubled
in the middle, so we knew I'd be opening the
back and again that was That's a credit to what
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Philip could draw up, man, and he kind of saw
that on film and we knew that was a two
point play going into the game.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Well, as Jeff said, we appreciate the time here Jack
Doyle with us on the Payloff Stickers hotline. We traded
a few texts yesterday. Your response football is life for
mister Rivers. Could you touch on the football obsession. We're
in COVID year that you got to witness with Philip Rivers.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, you know that was a shout out to the
Ted Lasso fans and Danny rohaustin football his life. That's
what I think about when I think of Philip. You know,
you know, the thing that comes to mind with Philip
is just he's such a unique character. And I say
that in the best way possible. And this guy is
just a football junkie and it's football the time, and
you know, he was such a great teammate in his mind.
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You know, that's what I couldn't get over, just how
he just would get us in the right play over
and over and that's run and pass, and you know,
you could we would be sitting in a meeting and
you know, say we're preparing for the Steelers or something,
and there, you know, heavy sass pressure and Philip would
be like, oh yeah, you know talking to Nick Giriana,
Nick Gianni who was off in square of time. Oh,
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I remember we we had this with the Chargers in fourteen.
I think it was like, you know, our second drive
of the third quarter. Can you go look up that
play and show it to the guys. And it'd be
like right on point. He knew exactly what play it was,
what would the pressure was, and how they kind of
attacked it, and it's just a It just shows how
his brain kind of works and how he's wired.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Jack, Thanks again for joining the show. James Boyd. Here,
I'm going to ask the hard hitting questions on this show.
So with Philip Rivers and him knowing notoriously not to curse,
is he the best trash talker who doesn't say any
bad words.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yes, he's the best trash talker period that I ever
played with. Okay, I mean he does not stop, and
it's all in fun and he's just the ultimate competitor
and he gets under guy's skin which is hilarious. And
he's just such a great teammate. You know that's you know,
not knowing anything about him, and he you know, he
(03:43):
when he showed up in twenty twenty, and you know,
I'm you know, I'm thinking that my memory of Philip
Rivers is like, Man, I didn't like this guy. You know,
I was a Colts fan growing up, and you know
he knocked the Colts out of the playoffs there in
the two thousands or whatever. I can't remember the years,
but you know, and he was always talking the fans.
I'm like, man, I don't like this guy that he
came in and he just carries himself in a way
(04:05):
that like all he wanted to do was be a
good teammate, get to know his get to know the
other players, and just be one of the guys. And
I just have so much respect for him.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
I need Philip Rivers micd up immediately, like from the
time he lands in Indianapolis to get ready for practice today.
But one more and more serious note, when you look
at his career, the man is accomplished darn near everything
in the NFL, say for the Super Bowl win, but
counting stats, longevity, respect from peers, all of that. So
when you factor in perhaps the respect that he still
(04:37):
has in that locker room, how much do you think
that helps? Because you know, unlike someone who normally we
stepping into these disposition, he still knows I would say,
what ten starters for the Colts right now, or at
least about seven or eight. So do you think that'll
help just him ease back into things when it comes
to trying to restart his NFL.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Career, Yeah, for sure. I mean, I mean, the cults
are real on a little bit over this past month,
and I wish I was in the Wednesday Offensive meeting
that's coming up, you know, probably here in the next
hour or so. And and just the energy that Philip's
going to bring to that room is something that's unmatched.
And and I can imagine being up there, and you know,
(05:16):
who knows what's going to happen, but him going through
you know, the you know, the his cadence and and
how his kind of tone is with his cadence, and
and and all kinds of different things. He just he's
going to bring an energy to that group and and
and hopefully kind of wake us up over there on
West fifty sixth Street.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
What what do you think this offense with him under center,
coming out of a five year retirement, what's it going
to look like? Realistically? Tell us what those first two
series are going to be.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Well, he'll have no like, the plays will be the same.
He'll have no problem, you know, knowing the play calls.
He can show up there and and and call any
play that they're running right now. You know, maybe the
checks and things like that, you know, they'll have to
kind of you know, figure out because maybe Daniel had
things a certain way or you know, stuff from his
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past that they've kind of emulated in their offense. But
he'll he'll know what he's doing, He'll and he'll be
able to communicate with the guys. You know, if I
had to guess, I could see them going some sort
of up tempo and just kind of trying to keep
it simple and you know, him getting you in the
right play and maybe that takes the crowd out of
it a little bit and he's able to communicate and
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just getting guys up to the line and just figuring
out the you know, the best play for the Colts
to be in.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Are the Seahawks just going to throw the kitchen sink
at him from a blitz pack In his perspective.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yes, I mean that's what I would do. And you
know they're gonna have to prove, you know, and the
Colts kind of got to prove that anyways they get
they got to gash somebody with with with all the
pressure they're seeing, you know, in the run or pass game,
it doesn't really matter. But the thing about Phil is like,
like like I was mentioning earlier, he's seen every blitz
and you know, Phil, there was times when hell out
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the defensive guy for saying, you know, you know, telling
the linebacker he's supposed to be bossed over a little
more because they're about to bring this SaaS pressure or
whatever it is, Like, Hey, you're miss aligned. Your coach
is gonna yell at you like you're supposed to be.
He just he is. He's so unique. The way his
brain works is just awesome. I mean, lay in that
twenty year I feel like a lot of my catches
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were on checks that he made at the line for
just from seeing, you know, different things. We'd be in
a run call and he sees a pressure coming and
he'd get us in a in a quick pass or
something like that to kind of take advantage of it.
So they're just again, his brain is just so unique
in the way it's wired. And if anybody can do this,
I mean, it's it's freaking Philip Rivers.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
That's Jack Doyle Jack Oil podcast over in the Colts
Audio Network's been a great listen all year long with
Jack and Matt Taylor, and Jack's with us here on
the Payloss Slickers Hotline. Jack and I don't remember I
think it's been a trend a little bit more here
in recent years league wide, the Colts have definitely started it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Did.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Did Frank do walk through Wednesdays late in seasons very
often with you guys.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
You know, I thinking back, we were doing walkthrough I
feel like we were doing them on Thursdays. I don't
know if that's right. I might be completely wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Practice walk through Thursday walk through.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, and given guys a day in the middle of
it was kind of our schedule. But yeah, I think
I think especially when they added the extra game, I
think that's probably when it became more prevalent around the league.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Yeah, and I bring that up. The Colts have done
the walk through Wednesday last two weeks since the signing
of Philip Rivers yesterday, they now have changed their practice schedule.
They'll go all three days starting today, Thursday and Friday.
Last one from me, and it's just more of a
reminiscing story the Josh Freeman Ryan Linley week for you guys.
This is I would say this is probably the most
(08:52):
dire in season weekly quarterback situation I can recall for
the Colts since that week. I forget which season was
fifteen sixteen something like that. What do you remember about
that week in which you guys literally had to get
two quarterbacks ready to play.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, I think it was the last game of twenty fifteen,
and yeah, we went in with I remember Clyde going
up there and kind of going through, you know, the
game playing with the quarterbacks, and Josh Freeman did all
the you know, bass stuff right, and he was running
the offense. And then Ryan Limley came in on two
(09:30):
minute drill and that's how they kind of prepared him
both and they both were successful. I think Ryan Limley,
I don't know if we went down and got a touchdown,
but there was a two minute drill in that game
where I know we went down and got points. So yeah,
it worked out well. But you know, the thing that
I remember most is, you know, it was late in
the year and you know, obviously we had you know,
(09:51):
we had lost Andrew and then I think we had
lost and then Matt got hurt down in Miami the
game before, and you know, you kind of walk in
there with you know, your head it's kind of hanging low,
and then you kind of walking back up by this
you know, new point and and and everyone's kind of
rejuvenized and and and you go out there and just
play football and see what happens. So hopefully, you know,
(10:12):
Philip can have that kind of effect on the on
the locker room coming in today.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Last thing, I gotta know, Jacket, honestly, after you heard
about this last night, you and any of your former
teammates have any kind of a text chain going on
about can.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You believe this? Or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, you know, I was texted with Moe ali Cox
yesterday and I was just like, Mo, you could write
a book on your story as a colts player. I mean,
all the stuff that's kind of you know, you know
going on with you know, obviously Andrew's retirement, and you know,
Jeff Saturday coming in to coach, and then now this.
I mean, he's just he's he's been through it in
(10:49):
his career. But man, it's gonna be a heck again.
I I have no reason to doubt Philip Rivers. I
know there's people saying, you know, some people are laughing
at this, it's calling it crazy, all that fun stuff.
But Philp's got to prove to me that he can't
do it, because you know, I won't doubt that man
for one second.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Good stuff Jack, thanks for joining us. We appreciate that
you're teaching high school right now, right middle school, middle school.
I'm off today though, just Monday Fridays sounds good.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Enjoy it. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks Jack.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Thank God.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
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Speaker 2 (11:47):
This guy really impressed me.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
As a matter of fact, my buddy Michael, my buddy
Michael ware goes to the Pacer games with me, and
Michael is a huge Pacer fan, right, and then after
the games he always like sends me his observations of
the game and that kind of thing. And he sends
me a message the other day that simply says, thanks
again for the invite last night. Nice win and go
(12:08):
Ethan Thompson and I'm because we're watching it and he's like, man,
this guy's out there hustling, making every play and he
joins us on the program.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Now.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
He is a new member of the Indiana Pacers, and
he was I believe in an NBA starter. Am I
correct Ethan Thompson saying, game number four of your NBA career,
you're starting, correct.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, yeah, that is correct. That is correct.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Is a great transition for sir. I mean this, this
whole week has been you know dream come true of
you know, getting this opportunity and then you know being
able to you know, get used to the team, and
then you know, just try trying to find my way
to make an impact and try to win a game.
So just doing what I can.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Well, I want to get to this because the way
you make an impact. Now, you know, I noticed in
the fourth quarter of that game against Sacramento, there was
at one point in that game, Ethan, there were three
straight possessions where you either kept the ball alive on
an offensive rebound or tapped out defensive rebounds and just
(13:12):
putting yourself hustle plays quite frankly, to keep possessions alive
or to prohibit Sacramento from getting a second look at things.
And then I looked at it, and I'm like, you
were a five star recruit. You grew up in California,
You're a five star recruit. You go to Oregon State,
you play obviously in a big conference. When did you
realize that and how did you manage to transition from
(13:35):
being a guy that spent the majority of your career
is the mainline player to now a guy that has
to be a complimentary player.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Yeah, I mean, I think it is goes back to,
you know, my understanding of the game and how it
was taught. So I got to credit my dad. He's
taught me everything that I know. All the coaches that
I've had growing up have given me a great foundation
of know what winning basketball is. And you know, it's
(14:03):
not always that you got to be the one that's
hitting the shots to make an impact on the game,
but whether it's spacing the floor properly, you know, making
the hustle plays, making the right reads offensively, defensively, and
then yeah, just doing whatever it takes. And then you know,
having that that fabric, you know, could could lead to
(14:24):
you being the guy for you know, for in my case,
you know, the majority of my career and then but
then in this situation, I still have that same fabric
of whatever it takes to win and at the end
of the day, just the competitors. So going out there
and competing however I can.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Now your father obviously was a coach when you were
growing up. I believe is he's still on staff at
Oregon State. I know he was at one time.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, he's still on staff.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
He had got the job I think going.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
Into my sophomore year high school, and then I got
the opportunity to play with play play for him, and
then with my older brother as well, Steven Thompson Junior.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
This has to be a record. I don't know if
this is correct. This has to be a record than Thompson.
You started every game. You played every game in Oregon
State and started every game. Is that correct?
Speaker 8 (15:09):
Yeah? I believe I do have the record in starts,
and I want to. I don't know about most games played,
but most games started, for sure.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I know that one hundred and twenty seven of one
hundred and twenty seven, and I would imagine if I
were you, I would be regularly emailing and or sending
that statistic to Gary Payton and just remind him of it.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Right right right now. It is great to be in
great company and to you know, have my name probably
like two or three starts above him, but like you know,
it's definitely great to be Vietna company, for.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Sure, Okay, So you have played in your professional career,
you have played in the G League, you have played
in Mexico, you have played in Puerto Rico, which I
know that you have also played for the Puerto Rican
national team. Right, you have played back into I believe
the G League for the Magic organization. Then two falls
(16:00):
and now here. Okay, So how long does it take
you to acclimate to new roster and learn the system
that Indiana's running.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
Yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's not that that
difficult of an acclamation, uh, you know to this team
because they got a lot of that got a lot
of guys that can play the right way. They know
how to play the right way, and you know, that's
the testament to you know, how coach has has been
building this team for you know, not just this year,
but like years before as well. So you know, at
(16:31):
at the end of the day, it's just basketball and
being able to make the right reads.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
You know.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
The probably the toughest part of the transition was just
learning the different terminology.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
A lot of teams use you.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Know, different different language for different actions on the court,
different positions, so, uh, trying to use the right terminology
and be on the same page with that, with with
my teammates, and and they've done a job of getting me,
you know, on the same page as well, So it's
been good.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
The newest page, Ethan Thompson is my guest. He's on
the Java house peeling poor guest.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Line.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
When you arrived with this franchise, what player on the
roster for the Pacers was the one that was the
most open to basically saying to you know, kind of
immediately took you under their wing. Which one would that be?
Speaker 8 (17:19):
I must say I've played Summer League a few years ago,
so like I've I've had a relationship with the guys,
with the majority of guys, but I will say that
Jay huff has has done a good job of you know,
kind of taking me under his wing. You know, he's
been in a similar position that I've been been battling
(17:39):
it in the G League and then you know, he's
been able to make his mark in the NBA as well.
And now he's kind of been talking to me, encouraging me,
and you know, really being that voice and reassurance of
you know, confidence and everything, like calming me down if
I'm you know, nervous or whatever it is. But you
know he's than that, than that constant voice for sure.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Is it hard to when you are in and I'm
going to say this respectfully, Ethan, but I think you'll
understand what I mean when you so far are in
kind of a vagabond career right where you're going and
you're playing for different teams. Is it difficult in a
situation to hone in on what it is that the
Pacers need you to do as opposed to taking the
(18:24):
opportunity to showcase what you can do elsewhere for other
teams to see. Does that make sense what I'm asking
for sure?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I mean, is.
Speaker 8 (18:35):
It's not too difficult for me because for me, one
of the big things that I've learned, you know, throughout
the course of my career at which I have been
on you know, many G League situations trying to make
it is kind of just being where your feet are
and not not worrying about the future, not worrying about
you know, what comes next, because you got to make
(18:56):
the most of where you're at now. And that's something
that's really kept me ground und it and you know
kind of been uh in the back of my mind
on you know, how can I help the Pacers, not necessarily,
you know, trying to show what I can do for
other teams is the situation I'm in now, and I
think that will lead to, you know, more opportunity of
(19:17):
you know, showcasing everything I could do, but still with
the intention of helping the pacers.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Now, when you were in high school in California, if
I'm not mistaken in this, in the California High School Tournament,
did you knock out the team that had all of
the the LaMelo and LiAngelo and and all the brothers
on it.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Yeah, So my junior year, when Lonzo was still a senior,
we lost to them in lost the if. But then uh,
the year after we had ended up beating them, and
my senior year, Alonzo left by LaMelo Jello. Uh, they
still have had a few other few other guys that
(19:57):
went on to play college and in the NBA as well.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
So now now was their dad on the sidelines. Was
their dad crazy the whole time?
Speaker 8 (20:04):
Yeah, I mean I want to use the term crazy,
but he's been you know, super supportive and very into it.
But yeah, it's always been. It's always been good to
play against them because you know, it's the environment that
they bring to the game, especially at you know when
we were in high school, high school basketball. You know
when I was in college, was or sorry, high school
basketball when I was in high school was you know,
(20:27):
a fun thing to be a part of. The games
are always so about, so it.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Was it was very fun when you grow up.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
You know, we know of here the great players from
southern California. I mean it goes without saying. You just
mentioned three of them. You had to play, right.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
We feel in Indiana like the other forty nine states
look at Indiana as a basketball mecca. Now you're from California,
what is your perception of Indiana basketball?
Speaker 8 (20:53):
No, for sure, I think of you know, great basketball.
You know Hardell's basketball as well, and you know a
long long history of of of talent and I And
that's something I'm glad that I that I have that
understanding of because I kind of got familiar with it when, uh,
(21:14):
when I was with Oregon State and we had went
on that run to the lead date it was it
was hosted the that COVID year where everything where each
round was in Indiana and then you know, being out
here for for that like month and a half or whatever,
it was was, uh, you know, pretty cool just to
you know, learn the history of the city and get
to get a feel for the city.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Ethan, after after the win in Chicago, Rick Carlisle, you know,
went on to say like, hey, he was, you know,
in doing some scrimmages with you know, Quintin Jackson some
of the other guys in our trainers, and I had
to call the trainer like, hey, get him off the floor.
At what point, how did it feel like, I guess
in that moment to realize that you were going to
get your first like actual shot, I'm playing some meaningful
minutes in the NBA.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
Yeah for sure. I mean like usually after shoot around,
go back to the hotel, take a take a nap,
and you know that that during that time, my nap time,
basically I was my eyes are closed, but you know
I was still awake, just kind of trying to envision
everything that's gonna happen, and you know a lot of
a lot of nervous energy, but excited energy as well.
(22:18):
And then you know, once once my name got called
the sub in and you know, a couple of possessions down,
I kind of got settled, and you know, it was
it was good from there, but definitely something that I've
been looking forward to, you know, my whole life, my
whole career, been working for that moment. So I'm glad
that I was able to experience that and just trying
to continue.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
To build off of it.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
So then, how did they tell you you're a starter?
When did take me through? What happens when they tell you,
by the way, you're starting against Sacramento.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Yeah, we were come into practice, I don't know if
it was the next day or a few days after
coming to practice, and we were about to watch film,
and then they have my initials up, uh for for
the matchups against Sacramento, and I was like, okay, yeah,
let's do it. Like you know, I was, I was excited.
And you know, getting that confidence from from everybody on
(23:07):
a team, coaching staff you know, has been has helped
me a lot as well. So you know, I'm just
I'm just excited to be able to go out there
and compete with with this group. They've been you know,
very encouraging of me, and you know they want the
best for me as well.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
So most importantly and lastly with that, so you look up,
you see et right there as the starter, like not
the movie, the starter.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Right.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
So then, and this is the big thing. Every player
on this roster in the pregame stuff goes through a
line and has like a specific like handshake, dap up,
whatever you want to call it with TJ McConnell. Now,
how long did it take you to learn that? And
have you mastered what your specific one is? Because every
(23:52):
players is different?
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Uh huh Now I haven't. I haven't mastered you know,
a specific one yet, but we we go work on
it for sure, for sure because I have something that
I have noticed that I gotta I gotta sit down
and talk with him.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, see that? So you notice that, right? I mean
literally every single guy, right.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Yeah, everybody. Everybody got their own unique handsake. So it's
pretty tough.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
And as a guard, everybody on the floor also has
their own kind of unique spots, right, how do you
learn that as a guard of just kind of understanding
where guys like their movement, where they like the ball,
where the set goes, et cetera. How long does it
take to learn that?
Speaker 8 (24:34):
It's it's something that you know, I've been been watching
film on before before I was even able to suit up.
But like I've I've been getting a good understanding of
how guys like to play, and you know, the coaching
staff has getting me used to like, Okay, if TJ
Is bringing up the floor, bringing up the floor, he
(24:54):
usually likes to run this action. So if I'm in
this position, I do this, and if I'm in that position,
I do that. But kind of getting that understanding, uh,
you know, and not not necessarily takes time, but like
as you get more reps of it kind of becomes
second nature and you pick up on pattern. So definitely
something I've been trying to key on, you know, throughout
(25:14):
these practice days and then uh, in the game, even
when I'm not in the game, just on the bench,
if I'm watching, I'm trying to you know, pick up
on those things as well.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
By the way, maybe he hasn't told you, but I'm
telling you right now. Your dad, when he was Stevie
Thompson at Syracuse was the truth man. Those Jimmy Man
had some hell of the teams and you know between
Derek Coleman and Sherman Douglas before your dad and Ronnie
Sykelee and then you know, people around here know about Syracuse, Paul,
Stevie Tompson the.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Ball many Yeah, I test me. I've heard his story
and and seen the film. Uh, you know, so it's
something that I've always get something I'm always you know,
grateful to have, you know, to be his son and
to be able to you know, carry on his name
as well. So I'm glad I got that.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Yeah, they had some heck of a teams back then,
and Crenshaw and high School and all of it. Love
love those those teams and those eras well. We certainly
wish you the best of luck.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Man.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
I appreciate the time today also having to be a
little bit flexible in the way that our schedule worked today, Ethan,
I certainly appreciate it, and we look forward to watching
more hustle plays.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
All right, definitely definitely appreciate you, all.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Right, much appreciated again.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
That is Ethan Thompson, the pride of Oregon State, his
dad Stevie Thompson. Right after Indiana won the national title
in eighty seven, you know, and those teams that Beheim had, Man,
they were loaded, and there were so many great players
that came out. You know, Shawn Higgins was out of
the like I think Fairfax in LA at the same
time when his dad was at Crenshaw and Special Times,
(26:46):
Special Times and great players that have come from there.
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Speaker 10 (27:13):
A familiar voice the former NFL quarterback at the Fan
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Speaker 11 (27:28):
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Speaker 10 (27:38):
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Dick Butkus and Bubba Smith and those long before him,
I think kind of installed, but he's taking it to
a different level here.
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brother Eli deserve a lot of credit for that because
they're making more money now than they ever did when
they played. And rightfully so, I mean, and just spending
(28:16):
a couple of hours with Peyton, because that's all it
took for us to shoot that Yeah, shows me that
he understands exactly how things need to get done quickly, decisively.
They have a great script writer, they have great ideas,
and it always goes back to the history of the NFL.
And that's what I love so much about Peyton and
what he's doing with Peyton's Place.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
And you could check that out the latest edition of
Peyton's Places. Boomera Siasin joins us. So last time you're on,
we talked about the renaissance campaign of Daniel Jones, which
since we last spoke has ended. And now it's just
kind of the last eight or so years of the
Colts in a nutshell here, everything kind of goes hey
(28:57):
wire and wild, and you have Philip River first that
I think is likely going to start coming up on Sunday.
So let's start here. What would all this entail for
a quarterback having to come back and then start a
football game after not playing for the past five years,
no matter what level we're talking about here, Boomer.
Speaker 11 (29:14):
Well, well, let's first off with Daniel Jones. When we
last talked about Daniel and he was playing well, I
told you one of the things that was the problem
here in New York is that he couldn't make it
through a season. He kept getting hurt and every time
he got hurt, the team would fall apart. You know,
the team loved him, they respected him, they appreciated his leadership,
the way he went about his business. But it was
(29:36):
a neck injury, it was a knee injury. I mean,
these were serious injuries and it meant so much to
him this year that he went out there with a
broken fibula to try to play through it. Maybe he
puts pressure on his left achilles and next thing you know,
that snap. So making prayers out to him, for sure,
we are sick to our stomach for him. We were
hoping for the best. We thought, you know, this could
(29:58):
be one hundred and fifty million dollars contract coming his way,
given the way that he had started the first day game. So,
I mean, I feel sick for the young man. He's
a great young, great young guy, and hopefully he'll be
able to restart his career in another year or so.
Now that being said, that being said, you know, your
Philip Rivers, you haven't played football in eighteen hundred days.
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Think about that. The last game that he played was
back on January ninth, twenty twenty one, and it was
versus the Bills. You guys remember that game. That was
a fourth and goal if I remember, and the the
I think the Colts won for it, and Philip overthrew.
I forget whoever threw in the back of the end zone,
and that was Frank Wright was his coach. Yeah, and
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you know, unfortunately for Chris Ballard the Colts organization, they
are fans out there. This is nothing new for them.
I mean, you guys have been through this for the
last eight or nine years, ever since Andrew Luck decided
to retire. That you know, you think you finally got
the guy, and then all of a sudden, the guy
gets hurt and now you have to turn back to
the you know, the clocks. And I don't know what
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kind of condition Philip's in. I'm assuming that he took
very good care of himself. That he probably looked reasonable
on the practice field, but if he has to start
a game, I mean, I have to be realistic here.
His chance is for any sort of success. I mean
it's less than fifty to fifty I think. And hopefully
(31:22):
they'll lean on Jonathan Taylor, which I'm sure they will,
and do a lot of play action passing and not
put Philip back there in a shotgun and protecting him
with five guys. That would be insane to me. So
Shane Steiken is going to have to go into his
bag of tricks if in fact, Philip ends up being
the starter for them.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
I do think, and I don't know how you feel
about this. Do you think he comes back if he
doesn't believe that he's going to be installed immediately? Do
you think he even jacks with this whatsoever? If there's
not that belief there. I mean, we don't know him,
we're not inside that brain. But what could he be
thinking surrounding this comeback? Because there's a lot of ramifications
(32:03):
from it?
Speaker 11 (32:03):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean, you know, look, there's the ego
involved in everything else, and he probably loves being wanted.
You know. I thought maybe they'd call Matt Ryan, but
he weighs about a Buck twenty watching him on CBS now,
it's like he couldn't play football because he'd probably get
cut in halfs. But and I know the Colt actually
tried him that last year with Frank, So I don't know.
(32:25):
This is just a weird kind of deals. It's a
desperation move. There is no other choice other than maybe
Brett Rippon. Maybe they start him if they feel like
Philip's not ready. I mean, they're playing against the Seahawks,
who are one of the best teams in the league,
and they're playing in Seattle. With the defense that gets
after the quarterback, they have a lot of sacks. I mean,
(32:47):
if Philip does play in this game, whether he's starting
it or ends up finishing it. If he does finish it,
I don't know, you're asking an awful lot, and I
think he's really taking an incredible risk if he steps
on that football field.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Did it shock you the moves and did you tell enough?
Speaker 11 (33:06):
It doesn't shock me because you know, there's there's desperation,
and there's desperation, and I think you know, given the
fact that the Colts have had a really good year
up until their last three games, I can understand why
Chris Ballard and the Colts would go down this road.
You know, they're going to try to save their season,
and this is it's nothing but a desperation move. I
(33:28):
don't know how else you would describe it. And I'm
not saying they're doing the right thing or the wrong thing.
I'm just saying they're maybe doing the only thing that
they think gives them, you know, half of a chance
to win some of these games. And when you look
at their schedule, their strength of schedule here coming down
the end of the season is one of the toughest,
if not the toughest, in the league. And you look
at their last three games that they've lost. All you
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have to do is look at the giveaways, the sacks
in the past five games, and that tells you all
you need to know about this offense that seems to
have fallen apart for some reason and lost their way.
And I think a lot of that obviously has to
do with the injury of Daniel Jones, not just the achilles,
but the fibula injury that leads to him losing one
(34:11):
of the most important aspects of his game, and that's
the ability to move and run with the football.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
That is boomeros Ayasin of the Fan in New York,
CBS Sports Network and more. You're catching him with Andy
Moore Automtive Group hotline. You're having a conversation, I think
on your show about what it would take to return,
like five years after I think you were out of
the NFL or whatever you hadn't thrown a football and
what it entails. And I know that was kind of
(34:39):
a funny conversation, but at the same time it was
ringing so true. There's one thing to talk about it,
or to throw it to nobody or to throw to
the equipment guy when you're all out there alone on
your field, but it's another thing to go against the
defense that hasn't allowed to score in like the last
two games and really comes hard after the quarterback. It
is absolutely shocking to think for me that Rivers will
(35:01):
be out there on Sunday. But then again, I have
to understand this is the Colts, and really there's nothing
that would shock me decision wise about their path any longer.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So I actually expected.
Speaker 11 (35:13):
Boom well, you know the other thing too, and I
don't know if they would be thinking this way. You know,
they may just say throw Bret ripping out there. I
don't know, maybe get Philip in the game somewhere along
the line. I don't know. I can't put my own
brain in San Steiken's head and what he and Chris
Baward are talking about. You know, Seattle's only given up
nine points, as you were pointing out, in the last
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two games, and that's the fewest in the two games
span since twenty fourteen. That's how good their defense has
been playing. And I always say this, You know, you
can look at strength of schedule, but what does that
strength of schedule look like when that team arrives to
the stadium. So in the case of the Colts, they
have a very good record, so you say, okay, well
they got that would make them a tough out. That
(35:55):
would be a that would be a big problem. But
the Colts come in now losing three in a row
and losing their starting quarterback and may have to rely
on a forty four year old quarterback. So where does
that really actually put that strength of schedule situation in
play here? It doesn't. I think this is when you
want to exactly catch the Colts, And this is the
Seahawks benefit from this. So and by the and On
(36:18):
the other side, everybody's healthy and Jackson Smith and Jigbush
showed back up again last week. Sam Darnold has played
great for this team. I wonder if I think, in
the back of my mind, you know, maybe we kind
of give up this game. You're not thinking give up
the game, especially if you're a player putting the uniform on,
but maybe internally they're saying, you know, we're probably going
to lose this game. Let's see if we can make
(36:40):
a final push those last three games when we're playing
teams within our division. But man, I mean, it's just
this is such an impossible situation for the Colts. And
I understand desperate times require desperate measures. And I would
say I'm rooting for Philip. I want them to do well,
but to inspect anything spectacular out of him is truly unrealistic.
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Does this from the outside looking in? For you appear
to be a general manager and a head coach that
may be trying to save what possibly could be the
end for them as everything has fallen apart. Is this
part of the desperation move that you view from both
coach and general manager here?
Speaker 11 (37:22):
And Andy, No, I don't, I don't I think it's
a really unfortunate set of circumstances. And Chris Ballard, look,
you know he was part of firing my one of
my best friends in the whole world, Frank Reich. I
hold no ill will against that at all with him.
I know he's a really good general manager. I know
that he's built up a really good roster over the years.
(37:44):
Frank always got the support that he needed from Chris
until you know, you know, mister Hearsay decided, you know,
enough's enough, and you know it's all. It always comes
back to the same thing. You know, who's the quarterback.
And when you look at the top twelve or fourteen
teams and you look at they are healthy quarterbacks that
are productive, those are the ones that are always going
(38:04):
to go to the playoffs. And unfortunately for the Colts,
it's been the same thing now ever since Andrew Luck retired.
So I don't think Shane Steiken or Chris Ballard would
be in jeopardy. I really don't think that. And I
don't know if you know the new owner out there
standing on the sideline, she'd gets it. I think she
understands what has happened here. I mean, she seems like
(38:26):
a very you know, intuitive person, seems like somebody that's
really gotten into the game of football, and she sees
the desperation in the stress that are on the faces.
I'm sure of her GM and her head coach. So
I mean, it's a really unfortunate set of circumstances. I
don't think they change. I just think that they have
to find themselves who they believe can be their next quarterback.
(38:47):
And obviously next year is not going to be Daniel
Jones because he's not going to be ready.
Speaker 10 (38:52):
So Boomer asiza with us. I thought a tail of
the tape happened at the NFL trade deadline, and I
think if you believe regardless of the circumstances here since
Boom and whatever you think about Sauce Gardner, who is
now out with an injury. But I think when you say, okay,
you can trade these two first rounders of the future
(39:13):
and bring in this guy because you want to win
in the now, and we've seen things dynamically change really
a one eighty from that point in time and now.
But I think when you do that, that to me,
you'll most tell everybody that these are my guys for
the future. I mean, maybe things can change, but I
don't know how much they will considering what was allowed
by Carly Ursa Gordon back during the NFL trade deadline,
(39:36):
That's kind of how I view it, and short sided thinking.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I guess in this case.
Speaker 11 (39:40):
Well, I think they were going for it, and I
think they felt like they needed one thing and that
was going to be a shutdown corner. Now from the
other side, the Jet side, which we cover obviously every
day here, and the Jets are you a mega disaster
once again, just like they have been for the last
ten years, and as their season winds down, they fall apart,
and we're and kind of used to it. We actually
(40:01):
thought that the general manager, Darren Moujie, did a great
job at the trade deadline trading both Sauce Gardner to
the Colts, and then of course Quinn Williams did the
Dallas Cowboys and acquiring the assets they need to rebuild
this franchise and to try to get their own franchise quarterback.
So we felt like the Jets did the one hundred
percent right thing. And again it's just really unfortunate that
(40:22):
a very talented player ends up, you know, straining a calf,
and I don't know if your listeners feel this way
out there, but I've said this a thousand times here
in New York. When their calf is involved, the next
thing that goes is the Achilles. And that's why you
have to be really, really really careful with an achilles
(40:44):
or a calf injury. And you know, you saw that
with Tyres Halliburton. We saw it, you know, last year
with the Boston Celtics. We've seen it, you know, so
many times Aaron Rodgers. I mean, any sort of calf
injury can easily lead to a pop achilles. And that's
the last thing that you would want to have happened
to Sauce Gardner. So again three injuries too, by the way,
to Forrest Buckner. That's another huge injury. So those are
(41:07):
things that I'm sure missus, irsy or you say Gordon
is basically hash to take into account when it comes to,
you know, whether or not she's going to blow out
the whole front office and the coaching stuff. I just
don't see that happening. I don't think that would be
a prudent move.
Speaker 10 (41:22):
I'm going to double back to Daniel Jones. I happen
to think that Daniel Jones, who will resign here and
clearly not for the amount of money that he would
have resigned for here. But I think that he resigns here.
I think they like him enough, and I think next year,
I think they're going to wait. I think really all
three quarterbacks that have been in the fold, that includes
in this case Riley Leonard who's also dinged up in
(41:42):
Anthony Richardson. I think all three of these dudes are
going to be back coming up next year.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
That's at least because you.
Speaker 10 (41:48):
Look at the free agency on the lack of assets,
I don't know really what choice unless they do blow
it up the Coults are going to have with that
in mind.
Speaker 11 (41:56):
Yeah, Well, the only thing that I would say in
reverse to Daniel Jones, it's the same thing. It's you know,
what's what's it gonna hurt next or two years from now,
because I doubt he'll play next year. I mean, I
know that Deshaun Watson had the same injury around the
same time last year, and he is just getting onto
the onto the practice field now and they're not going
to put him out on the field in these last
(42:18):
four games regardless. So I think that Daniel would be
in the same spot. Maybe he does sign a contract
with the Colts. Maybe he takes a year off and
doesn't sign and then resigns back with the Colts. I
don't know. I don't know what that situation's going to encounter,
because whatever they give him, they're going to have to
absorb on the salary cap and there's a whole other
set of circumstances that you got to take into account.
(42:39):
But you know, my thing with Daniel Jones would be,
I'm not I can't give you a long term, big money,
guaranteed contract. I just can't because your history is such
that you have serious injuries that forces you to lead, uh,
you know, lose an inordinate amount of games, and usually
the team collapses around owned you when that happens. And
(43:01):
that's been his moniker unfortunately in his entire career, except
the one year that they went to the playoffs and
they beat the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 10 (43:08):
Ta boomer assized him with us before I let you go,
I got to get your thoughts on the one seed
in the college playoff As a Maryland man, I'm sure
you've recognized the futility over the years of AYU football.
Can you believe what you've witnessed under Kurt Signetti in
the last two and then once you have witnessed this
last weekend viding Ohio stead and being the number one
(43:29):
overall seed of the college Football Playoff, what do you
think about these Osiers?
Speaker 11 (43:32):
So I think they're great. You know, they went into
Maryland and Mendoza in company just absolutely steamrolled our team.
And I think our team is going to be steamrolled
for the next five years. So I can I'm getting
used to it, but I will say what Kurt has
done out there has been remarkable. The fact that he
was able to get Mendoza to come there and then
have Mendoza Fernando played the way that he has played,
(43:54):
It's been terrific. You know, it wasn't pretty against the
Ohio State, but those games sometimes are the best games.
They're tight, they're defensive oriented, they're looking for somebody to
make a mistake or somebody to make a misplay, and
then all of a sudden you have your upset. What
will be interesting for Indiana will be Okay, let's be
ready for our first game once we get through the
(44:14):
by and then I think we all think that they're
going to be a team that's going to see Ohio
State again, and can they beat them twice within six weeks,
that would be the real cream on the top. So
I love for Nana Mendoza. I think he's a great player.
I think he's going to make a really good professional quarterback.
I think he's smart, he's big, he's strong, can make
(44:34):
every throw, he's athletic, and you know, the thing that
I like about him most just this whole attitude about
life and the way that he carries himself is personal
story with his mom dealing with multiple sclerosis and how
their bond has basically given him strength. So I appreciate
all of that. So I'm rooting for Indiana.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Believe it.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah you think you WANs the Heisman?
Speaker 11 (44:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't see why. I mean, I
know there will be some other you know, these guys
you know from Vanderbilt. What Pavia, I guess is getting
some late push here, you know, because he played in
the SEC.
Speaker 8 (45:12):
But I don't know.
Speaker 11 (45:13):
I think I feel like Fernando Mendoza played almost a
perfect year. You almost had like a perfect season. I
know the numbers aren't what some past Heisman Trophy winning
quarterbacks have had, but I mean, all he did was
lead his team to an eleven and o season. I
know they've got a good defense, that's that's part of it.
It's a team game. But Fernando is the unquestioned leader
of that team, and I thought he had a really,
(45:35):
really clean year and did nothing but enhance his pro
stock ability. So I think he's gonna win it.
Speaker 10 (45:42):
You can find him at seven Boomerasiasin on x He's
at the fan of New York. You can catch him
on CBS Sports Network and in the latest edition of
Peyton's Places. You can check that out too. It's Boomrasiasin
on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. Boomer, Man, it
is outstanding. We will catch up again soon. But I
had to get your thoughts on Philip Rivers coming up
(46:04):
on Sunday. That is gonna be watched. It'll be interesting
if he gets out there and plays.
Speaker 11 (46:09):
If nothing else, if people run by Philip, if you've
run by Philip at any point, just thought to know
that Boomers saying his prayers for him.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah, you gotta I appreciate it, Boomer.
Speaker 11 (46:18):
Okay, thanks, Boomers.
Speaker 10 (46:20):
Size on the Anymore Automotive Proof potline. We shall pass
that along to Philip Rivers from Boomera's Eyes.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
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