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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Join us shortly in studio.
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We'll have those guys and thoughts of the last week
win over the Chargers, and then we'll look ahead, of course,
to the Arizona Cardinals this week. Logs the Jaguars bounce back, Well,
I'd say after the loss in Houston, you think I
don't know if you could bounce back much better to be.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Honest with you, No, look, defense, I think was really
at the top of their game, allowing only one hundred
and thirty five yards of all offense forty two yards
on the ground, and you know, third down has been
kind of a problem for them throughout the year. They
were thirtieth in the league, and in this past game
they only allowed basically twenty five percent conversion rate, So
a lot of areas that they improved upon and got
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some good pressure on the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Liked liked it. I liked I loved it. Actually it
was fantastic. EVP.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Tony bosellis in studio, Good afternoon, apologize, where's your cohort at?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
No idea? Is this final offense? Now?
Speaker 6 (01:35):
I think? Yeah, we have two rules. We both violated
one of them. Yeah, right, so my bad. How are
we doing that?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Good?
Speaker 7 (01:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Doing well.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
We're just kind of looking back a little bit on
last week's game and the performance coming off the Houston game,
and you know, everything in the building that week getting
back on track, and I don't know if they could
have gotten back on track any better than they did.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Well, No, I think, listen, you got to give a
ton of credit to Liam, the entire staff, are players,
the whole building. Really the approach last week after a
really tough loss against the Texans, a game that you know,
we felt like kind of right out of our grasp.
Give the Texans credit, man, they played their tails off.
And and so the question is, and I think this
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was the challenge to everybody, and this was the message
of the head coach, is how are you going to respond?
And I love what he said Monday afterwards of that game, says,
We're not gonna let this be game.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
We're not gonna let.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
This game beat us twice. And because so often in
this league, you see it's snowball on you and uh.
And our players received the message and went out there.
It gets a really good Los Angeles Chargers football team,
and from the first nap to the last snap, I
thought we controlled the game. At the scoreboard obviously reflected that,
but I was super happy for our guys, for our players,
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our coaches, for the whole building. Just the response. And
but you know that one's in the past doesn't mean much.
Now you know.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
It was like an offensive lineman's dream.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Forty seven runs. I mean, you can't you can't beat that.
I mean, that's what you want to do as an
offensive line. But now you know this, you guys know
this is how you're gonna respond this week. And I
was kind of giggling. I was talking to JP about this.
You know, people were suck We're kind of in between,
you know, giving me a hard time, making fun of
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me or whatever. About the comment that this last week
was the most important game in the history of the franchise,
which I've said multiple times now, you've said it all
year long, every game, And and I say that because
I actually number one believe it, because nothing matters in
this in this league. Next game up than talent, because
it doesn't matter. Yeah, what we did last week, as
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great as it was, and we celebrated Sunday night, enjoyed
it Monday, but come Monday night, as a staff back
working on the Cardinals all day Tuesday staff working on
the Cardinals, players get some days off, relax, work out,
get their bodies ready. It makes it, but there's no
doubt about it. It's not it's more enjoyable winning. I mean, obviously,
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that's why we played this game. That's all that's about.
All that matters is what happens on the field. And
but now this and people can joke around and Pete
can make fun of you can hammer me for my
you know, we're the same thing every day and it's amazing.
I mean, people tell me about the Monday Night Show,
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but now that I'm not on it, and Austin's doing
a great job. By the way, that was a great addition.
But this is the most important game in the history
of the franchise because all that matters is what happens
on Sunday, because we now have a challenge. We're in
late November football going into December. This is where these
games determine whether you were playing in January or not.
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And and so we go out face a team that
got blown out, got a tough week, much like we
did in the past, We've had to respond. They've had
two tough they've had back to back weeks against two
quality opponents, and the Seahawks and the San Francisco forty
nine Ers two teams we have played. And so you
look at the score, maybe it's easy to say, oh,
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this is as game. Oh yeah, you got this one.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
We got it.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Most dangerous words in all of the NFL, all of life.
I got this.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
And that's.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
It's something that I believe in. And but if you
look at this Arizona Cardinal team on tape, and you
look at the players and the way they've played and
they've lost some really tight games this year, some games
that could have gone either way against good football teams.
So it's now on too. This is the opportunity, this
is the challenge that you know is in.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Front of us.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
And we got a tough opponent once again. I mean,
this is a team that's playing at a high level
on offense, in the passing game. With Yakobe Brissett, they
got one of the best tight ends in all of football.
They got a defense that flies around, one of the
best safeties in this this era with a Baker, got
a guy we all know very familiar in Klay's Campbell
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that somehow someboy is still playing elite football high level
at his age. And so the challenges. They got a
number of first round draft picks on the defensive side
that can rush the passer. So this is another great
challenge and we will find out again what are we
made of how because everyone talks about how do you
respond after a loss? And those that's the focus I
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never I'll never forget, And Jeffy you probably remember this
as well. Tom Koff win the challenge. He would always
challenges not just how you respond of a loss, how
do you respond to success? How do you respond when
everyone's saying how well you played? Because human nature is
to take a deep breath.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Is that why he was such a bear? Like he
was like such a bear.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
He was a pain that he was a pain. But
you learn something from that because I think by nature
we all like comfort as humans, a little bit of
softness that can creep in there.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
He didn't have it.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
I actually think we all have it. It's the question
is whether do you allow it? He had it when
we went to operate. I don't think he ever had it.
I think I think I think all of us, you know,
like comfort. We all like good things. We like feeling good,
we like when people praise us, we like when things
are going our way. The question is is can you
still find that same hunger, that same drive. Head coach
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talked about the standard that we've said. He said it
at the podium, we've talked about as an organization there's
a standard. So we got to go meet that. But
in front of us is a really good football team.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
James Gladstone, General Managers winning us Now.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Good afternoon, James, afternoon, it seems like he has been
holding it down. Good convo, so far.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Yeah, what's the fine for per minute?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh gosh, it gets cranked.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
He was looking at his watch coming in, I know,
you know, oh.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, the notifications come through the watch nowadays. What has
got to stay up to date?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
James? That was Jaguar football last week. You know that
Jaguar football moving ahead is the big question.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, that's certainly been a topic of conversation. That's the
standard that has has been said at this point in
time for us to continue to try to not only match,
but you know, elevate beyond. And I think it's pretty
vivid visual for our fan base to see what a
fierce football.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Team we can be.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And I know that that's something that we're going to
continue to try and tap into, knowing that it's something
that anybody that's a supporter is going to be proud
to back. And I think that that's hopefully what we
continue to put out on the grass. And I know
it's certainly top of mind for us. But man, you
got to give so much credit to so many individuals,
so many collective group efforts in that performance, because you know,
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it could have been really easy to just you know,
back into a corner and you know, lick our wounds,
so to speak. From the Texans finish, but we bounce
back in a real way and certainly proud of our
group for doing that.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I thought the start to that game was really important,
you know, And was there any kind of bit and
you guys talk to Liam all the time about this,
but you know, usually in the game, you know, you
got the opportunity to win.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
The queen toss, do you defer? Do you take the ball?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Sometime there's a mindset of we want to put this
out there first because we feel strongly about the possibility
of success, and to put the defense out there the
very first drive. I thought it was the way that
they made that look good. I thought was great. You know,
you get the intentional grounding on the first play, you
get a three and out here you go.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Way to start a.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Game, right, And you know a lot of that decision
was actually rooted in the placement of the sun at
this time of year and controlling some of field direction
more so than it was any one side of the
ball being on.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
The field first interest.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, and if you think back to it or even
the next time you're in it in the stadium, you
can see exactly what I mean by that and where
that sun's pointing, and just how challenging Tony and I
were actually out on the grass today kind of just
tossing the ball up in the air in that direction,
just to see exactly what it's like for a player's perspective,
and it's not easy. Wow, I will say that that
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was probably.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
A part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But nonetheless, I mean, the defensive front certainly showed up
right away and in a big way. And it wasn't
perfect in that first quarter, and that's one of the
things that you know, we're going to constantly make sure
that we aren't deterred from within real time, knowing that
when there is just a minor setback, it's not something
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that just digs you deeper, but you can come back
from and even look better because of when our offense
drives down and gets halted there, right And so well,
it wasn't perfect, it was still a healthy start to
that game and good that our defense was able to
put forth a really strong outing there to kick things off.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
So the wristband does it make that much of a difference,
because you know a lot of people are talking about it.
Trevor wearing a wrist band versus not wearing in the wristband.
Trevor commented about it and just that it just kind
of helps you speed up the process. Yeah, at all
the quarterbacks that you guys have ever been around this
for you Tony as well, how many quarterbacks did wear
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it versus the ones that didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Wear Yeah, there were. From my experience in LA, it
was typically not something that was a part of the operation.
It's certainly fitting for some of the longer play calls
to be able to operationally not feel like it's something
that you truly have to give a lot of mental
energy to and can just read off of. So it
seemed to work operationally to make it so that you know,
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you're not button up against the shot clock the play
clock as frequently, but certainly you want to play into
your player's strengths comfortability in order to operate with as
clear of a mind as possible. And you know, I
think that's also a vivid visual of a coaching staff
who's willing to modify approaches in order to best suit
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the skill sets of players.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
Right, that's just it's not.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Exact explicit to what let's call it concepts they're running,
but just another example operationally of adaptation and change, because
those are the items that can take good teams to
become great teams, or any version of that in real
time throughout the course of a season. Love to see
that unfold in real time. And I think our fans,
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whether it's the wrist band going on Trevor or if
it's some of our schematic approaches offense, defense and special teams,
We're not going to remain stagnant, right, We're always going
to continue to evolve. And I think that's just one example.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
Yeah, I mean I think if you I mean, did
Mark Carroll wear wristband? I don't think so, not that
I recall. I don't think so long ago I can't remember.
But you see all sorts of different guys somewhere. I mean,
just Herbert Ware is one. I mean Tom Brady would
were one of times. I know that.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
I look at it like it like if you're taking
a test and I can write down all my cheated
dancers on the inside of my form.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Why wouldn't I do that?
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Well? And I think, I think what it speaks to
is this and James touched on this number one. Let's
also realize this is we're all getting.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
To know each other still.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I mean we've been this is game ten, we've plaied
Game eleven coming up. I applaud both Trevor.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
We're not talking about the four of us, you know,
we're talking about coaches getting to know.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
What's how they're comfortable in our and our players getting
comfortable with our coaches. And I applaud not only Liam
and the staff, but also Trevor the open communication, the
dialogue being open to continue to evolve, to continue to
get better, because the easy thing is a lot of
times is to be prideful or you know, insecure or
whatever is like, oh, what message does this send out,
both for coach and player? And the reality is who
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cares if it's going to make us better? I mean,
I think one of the themes that I know James,
Liam and I all talk about a lot and try
to live by, is we're going to do whatever it
takes to get better. If it's incremental, small things that
will help us be better, great, if it's big changes
that we need to make as individuals, as a leadership group,
as an organization, whatever those are. We are here to
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win for games and to be the best organization in
the NFL. Our players want to win football games. Trevor
wants to be the best quarterback on the best team,
just like every other player. Leam wants to excel as
a head coach, be the best. We all want that,
and so why would you allow anything to get in
the way of that. And if it's better for some
of our long plays obviously everyone knows. Robert Solid brought
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it up with San Francisco. We can't play, we look
at defenses, we make adjustments. What does that mean some
of the play calls can be longer.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
A lot of herbage, a lot of verbage.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
It's first year in the system, and so as we
went through it, we were you got an example, got
an example. I can't even attend. I can't do it.
I can't I hear them, and I'm just like I
would need wristbands on bars in big print because I
can't see it. So, you know, it's one of those
things that and I think the result of it. Also,
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let's look at it. How many operational prestaft penalties do
we have in the game that be zero? And so
again plod Trevor applod Or coaches doing whatever it takes
to get better, not worried about outside perception or what
people might say or think.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
Who cares, It does not matter, just trying to win games.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Back in a moment, we'll dig into this matchup coming up,
the Jaguars and the Cardinals. By the way, I'm looking
at photos of Brunel no no resks.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
I didn't think he did.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
He had a sweatband on his right.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I will say this because I do remember the play calls.
They were nothing like what I hear us call stretch. Seriously,
thirty four zone balls, ready break, that's it.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
That was a run.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
And so on Fridays, James and I always were by
Liam on the field quite a bit, and I listened to
him call the plays in the Trevor and I'm like,
could not repeat that.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So we gotta go, we gotta go. We'll back in
a moment. We'll follow that up in a moment. It's
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Speaker 4 (15:59):
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Speaker 3 (16:01):
It is JAG's HQ presented by a Fresh from Florida
ahead of the Jaguars Cardinals matchup in week twelve, JP Shadwick,
Jeff Logoman from the Hundai studios of the Miller Electric Center,
Tony Vasselli, James Gladstone's joining us as well. The Cardinals
three and seven banged up football team, backup offensive lineman,
they've got a backup quarterback. They're deep in the running
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back situation right now. It's just kind of what it
is for Arizona. Let's start with Brissett, though, guy who's
been around this league for a long time and throughout
his career when he's had his opportunities, for the most part,
he's protected the football and he's coming off a game
where he set the league record for completions in a
game as they were trying to fight back last week,
two touchdown passes and each of the five starts this year.
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What do you see out of Brissett now, this deep
into his career in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
You know, he's altered.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
There's trajectory of that offense this season since he's been
in since Week six, he certainly stabilized a lot of
the operation and for a lot of those catchers, they've
certainly seen an increase in output, you know, coming off
the heels of the last week.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
Right, let's just start with the tight.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
End, because a lot of stuff runs through McBride. He's
one of the best in the league at this stage,
and you know, he's a real weapon, somebody that you
got to make sure you account for each and every snap.
And beyond that, they got an ascending player in Wilson,
and he certainly stepped up in a big way last
week as well, and so I think that those two guys,
in combination with a lot of other factors are certainly
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going to be something that present problems. And he's been
a great orchestrator of just running that offense efficiently and
at the same time being explosive through the passing game.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
Obviously, you mentioned it.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Just like the Chargers were going through some injuries in
particular at the running back position, Arizona's facing very similar stuff.
And I know with Trey Benson, who they've been without
for a while, he's got his twenty one day practice
window open up, so we could be seeing him for
the first time and quite some time. But nonetheless, there's
certainly no team to look past, in particular on the
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offensive side of the ball with him, with Perssette operating
as well as he is as efficiently as he is
at this stage of his career.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Jonah Williams, the right tackle who formerly of the Bengals,
did not play last week. What what what's his injury?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
You know what, shoulder injury.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And he didn't practice today either, neither practice.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Yeah, he didn't.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It just came out a handful of minutes ago.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
And Beacham, who has been around forever, right fourteen years
in National Football League, actually spent some time here as
a Jaguar, started at right tackle last week.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
He won. He was a report practice practice.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Kind of interesting there of what's going on at right
tackle for the Cardinals. Had a lot going on this year,
but to kind of combat that you guys have a
left end hasn't practiced yet either in Trayvon Walker.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
How's that? How's that situation going?
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Yeah, he's progressing.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
He finished the game on Sunday and obviously showed up
in a big way throughout it. You know, his presence
isn't something that you can take lightly.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
We've seen how we look without him versus how we
look with him, and I think there's a notable difference.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
His leadership is experience.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It all goes a long way, well, at the same time,
knowing that last week we had some undrafted college free
agent rookies get some ops that they hadn't seen the
same volume of snaps and really come through right each
of them touching the quarterback, and you know, given some
problems to the chargers, so excited to see their progression,
in particular across the front, knowing that they can harass
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and affect the quarterback in a notable way as well.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I thought BJ had a really nice rush. I mean,
I'm the one that was penalty was called, which is bad,
but the way he nice little shortened corner powerlift, lift
the arms up and just literally run right through the
offensive tackle who he took away all of his strength
by lifting the arm up. And I don't know what
he would have could have done differently on the sack,
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but it could have been a game for both each
get their first career sack, you know, even though Struggle
got a half, but still, I mean, those guys got
a lot of.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Energy, There's no doubt about it. And I think you
know they got fresh legs. Yeah, undoubtedly, Now in practice
they're going to show a lot and now they're getting
reps with our defense, So they're doubling down, no question,
and uh, you know Bja was going full speed today
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and going to his part to make it so that
you got to protect and uh, you know, it's just
it's good to see those guys having earned ops through
really special teams now getting a chance to show up
on the defensive side of the ball and take advantage
of opportunities when they present themselves, because you never know
when it's going to pop. And I think that beyond
just the two of them, you got a guy like
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Quentin Morris, who's a veteran right who did very similar
through special teams, got the op on the offense side
of the ball, shows up in a real way pancakes man, Yeah,
takes a notable step in that phase and really helped.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
Us win that ball game.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
And I think that those are three great examples of
guy is doing uh sort of progressing in the way
that you would love for any player to progress from
the depths. And I think when their ops presented itself,
they made sure to take advantage of them and that
they were ready for him.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
All right, So you earlier you challenged me about asking
you a tough question. I can't wait to hear this.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Please make sure it's just not like somebody question or
something somebody cat uh.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Two weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Cole van Landa played left guard, played really well this
past game. He plays right tackle, he plays really well.
What happens when all of a sudden you got everybody
healthy and Cole van Landon is part of six offensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You know what, We've operated with six offensive linemen on
the field quite a lot this season. So I wouldn't
think that anything changes on that front. You can job oh.
I think very clearly he's performing at a level that
is worthy of being on the grass a significant amount
of time. Now, every offensive line is going to experience
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some version of attrition over the course of a season,
so five is not enough.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
You got to think beyond that.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And I think it was very clear in the way
that we approached the off season that there was going
to be something that we prioritized so that we minimize
the risk that we would run knowing that at some
point over the course of a season we were going
to have to call on the sixth, seventh, even eighth
offensive lineman at some point or another. Because as I
think back to really my time in the NFL, Liam
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got to experience the worst of it with me. Our
offense was rarely, if ever, in a position where it
couldn't find success.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
The only time that we really.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Got halted was or debilitated.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
Was when our offensive line went through a significant.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Volume of injuries and we didn't have the wave behind
the first five to truly make it so that we
were in a position to continue to operate as we
normally would. So that was a big push into this offseason,
certainly Jack to see the performance of Coal over the
course of the last two weeks, in particular knowing that
he's moving from not only one side to the other,
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but one position to another, which is yeah, that that
is a very extremely.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Unique game in college. My first two years in college,
we played week in strong tackle. I played left and
right tackles.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Tolerance for saying no, this guy's right side only.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
The right left is I've never understood why zero talants
the guard to tackle the back and forth. That is
a different skill set. It's a different the the immediacy
of the guys on top of you in the guard
different than tackle tackle space.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And Coles Cole's got the opportunity to play on an
off on to the line with one of the best
sixth offensive lineman in recent history in Patrick McCarey, who
is doing that with Baltimore and is now our right guard,
who's coming off of two straight weeks a really high
level play. And so I think you also get the
luxury of tapping into that now, not any different than Cole.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Patrick would find.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Himself starting for three weeks at guard than starting for
three weeks at tackle, all in the same season, all
in the same order, And so I think that that
experience can also be something that's getting leveraged internally as well.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
JP's going to get mad at me for that. Just
so we got to have quick, quick answers here, real quick.
What's Cole's best position?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
That's a fair question. It's probably it's probably more fit
to have him answer what he's most comfortable with. I
would say he certainly comes off as a very natural tackle.
I think that is an easier sort of step in
and see no difference in protection, and because he is
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extremely smart in his leverage. And beyond that, right, you
get on the inside and you're dealing with bigger, denser bodies,
so you might feel the pains of that. Yeah, But
I think either or he's gonna find success just because
he's such a cerebral, such a sound, smart football player.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Back in a moment, we'll take a look at the
Cardinals defense.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Get our final thoughts ahead of this Jaguars Cardinals matchup
coming up in Week twelve.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's jags HQ on Jaguars Radio.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Welcome Back jags HQ, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
right now.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
It is jags ah QJP Shadwick, Jeff Logaman, Tony Boselli,
James Gladstone with us the Jaguars and the Cardinals coming
up Week twelve, a four five Eastern kickoff time from
State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. Jag six and four
Cardinals three and seven. Was touch on this Cardinals defense.
They give it up forty or more the last couple
of weeks, the only team in the league this year
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to give forty more and more points in consecutive games.
But they've got some veteran players on this team, obviously
Kaleis Campbell and year eighteen five sacks still impacts the game.
I mean, Liam Cohen called him a game record. He
was on that list in the meeting this week, and
we've known him here for three seasons. He was here,
so last year Week one with a sack and a
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TfL in the first two plays of the game after
being in handcuffs two hours earlier, and the guy can
still get after it.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Eight truth, you know. And as we go back to
who this Cardinals team is as a whole, I think
last week was the score of that game probably wasn't
indicative of the game itself, right, you got seventeen penalties
that the Cardinals committed, hurt themselves quite a bit franchise record,
that's right, And then you got an opening kickoff comes
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back to the two yard line, San Franz able to
get into the end zone very fast. You got a
chance to go into the end zone and the ball
pops out just before getting there, so very that gap
could have been a lot tighter. And I think they've
surely showed throughout the course of the season as a
whole to be in really competitive games. So I don't
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think that these past two weeks are truly indicative of
who they are as a team and can't be taken lightly.
And especially when you got a leader like Coleis on
that defensive front, right, he makes a notable dent in
the play.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
And he's certainly.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Somebody that you can't allow to get going, because once
he does, he's going to rec shop the swim move
that he's still playing with, the hump move that he's
still playing with. Man, it is not easy. And he
is a large human being that can take over that
middle section of a front right and so I think
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we're gonna have to do our part to make sure
we minimize his impact as much as possible. And as
we look behind him, there's some real playmakers and game
wreckerds that you got to account for as well.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
You look at a guy like Josh Sweat next to him, Yeah,
nine sacks. He's an FSU player. A lot of people
around here part remember him at FSU. He's an athletic
long us his length very well. He's a guy who
can arrast the quarterback get after. Our tackles are gonna
have to be on their game. You block it, You
have to have good sets, and you have to use
make sure to be ready for his length. And he's
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a hand fighter, and you gotta be on your p's
and q's. And at the same time, he has enough
speed to beat you around the corner. So you got
to it all starts with the set with a guy
these good pass rushers. If you don't set well, they're
gonna get He's gonna get on an edge, and once
he's on your edge, he's really hard to block. Now,
if you get good sets, be disciplined in your set process,
have a game plan, and uh, you should be okay.
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But even everything goes perfect as a tackle, a guy
like Jos Sweat with that length, he can make it
difficult for you and make it a long day. And
then on the back half, we got we talked about
Buddha Baker early or one of the best safeties and
a guy who's involved not just in the past game,
but in the run game and effects the run game
in a meaningful way.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
So this is a good defense.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
They got Walter Nowen, first rounder, really got his first
action against the Cowboys a couple of weeks ago, showed
up immediately on tape. He's a guy who's quick twitch,
another edge player in the interior and get after you.
So our guards are going to be I mean, everybody
across the front is going to have their hands full.
And then they do a lot of different things on defense.
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They give you different looks in the secondary and so
the mental side of it for Trevor and our receivers
being on the same page. Communication across the board is
gonna be really important.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You know, we're gonna have to be ready for some
offensively looking at their defense, ready for some unscattered looks
if they feel like, hey, we've allowed forty points in
back to back games.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
We got to modify some things, right.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
So can't expect it to look the exact same as
it has.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
The interesting thing about Buddha Baker in his ninety year
seven time Pro bowler, it ain't easy to make Pro
Bowls in Arizona now, I mean because you know, historically
they have not been a good football team. So I
think that kind of speaks to the nature of the
player that he is, just because if you're making seven
Pro Bowls in nine years and you're playing for the
Arizona Cardinals, you're a really good football.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Player, doubt.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I think there's no better way to describe him than
football player.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
He's not the biggest human on the back end, and
you know, many many people were pointing to that as
a part of the reason why not to consider him
as somebody who could reach the top of the position group.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
But he's certainly shown that not to be something that
stands in his way at all. He is as urgent
of a player as there is, and he certainly finds a.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Way to create chaos.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And you got to account for him as a receiving
cores in the run game, because you can't allow him
to slice in endlessly without being forced to go around somebody.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
When I look at Kalais and I think of Kalais,
I think of the term that you've used many times,
because this might be the most intangibly rich player in
NFL history.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Would have been spot on.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
There's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
He would have been the visual for intangibly rich. There's
no question, Tony, what's this Sweek's game?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
The most important game and.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
The most important game in the history of the franchise?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, okay, you caught some heat for that on Monday night.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
You know That's okay, It's true truth here, it's brutal facts.
People don't like brutal facts.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
We all must face him.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Pete Priscow doesn't like brutal facts.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
He doesn't like brutal facts. Because guess what what happened?
I heard someone say what about nineteen ninety nine? Who cares?
What does that mean? How's that going to impact our lives?
Doesn't mean anything? Not here next week, it doesn't matter.
All that matters is Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
That's deep. Yeah, well it's true.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
Yeah, if only you were holding the mic and could
let it go.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
Let it go, just the most important game the history
of the franchise, JP, and anyone has a problem with it,
just called JP Shadwick and he'll answer any questions for you.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Certainly will all be able to tea at four o
five Eastern on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
James Tony appreciates you. Guys.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Can't wait back.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
With more spiroddas CBS Sports back to back weeks. We'll
have the call here for him coming up in about
fifteen minutes. It's jags HQ on the Jaguars Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Welcome Back, Jaggs HQ, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
right now.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Welcome back into jags HQJP Shadwick with Jeff Logman. We're
on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the University of Florida,
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number one state for education Jaguars Cardinals coming up our
thanks to James Gladstone and Tony Boselli on offensive line
talk going into last week's game. They had five guys
on the injury report last week and the right tackle
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did not play and you saw the result certainly, nearly
two hundred yards on the ground, no sacks of the quarterback.
And the still topic this week with the way those
guys played up front. Just hearing from Tony and James,
there logs.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Look, Cole van Landon has been kind of making a
name for himself, you know in the last two games
because he's played pretty well. And uh, you know the
question that I asked, you.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Know, where is there? Where is he at?
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I mean, because you know, the reality is is that
when you got a player who's playing well, you want
to find more opportunities for him. But James was right
and that there's there's that six man kind of mentality
that they have on game day because they're using the
offensive lineman as an extra tight end and a lot
of different scenarios. This past game, it was Chumahdoga think
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about the thirteen yard touchdown run by Etn and he
was being led by Chumi Udoga and Robert Hainsey on
that play. So so some opportunities there. But I think
that that's something to watch as the weeks go forward.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yeah, we'll see what they do with them.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Who knows if it's this week, but moving ahead, we'll
see what they have to do.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
And that's a good problem to have.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
But well, come on, yeah, I mean it's no different
than you know, you look at the tight end group.
You know, Hunter Long has been out with a hip
and knee, Brenton Strange has been out with the hip,
quad flex or whatever it is that he's had. And
then with that opportunity off into the lineman have stepped
into it for that extra tight end spot. But then
also Johnny Mount Quint Morse have played very well. Quin Morse,
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as Tony brought up James brought up, played an exceptional
ball game this past game. And also the part that
a lot of people don't recognize, Quint Morse is a
very very good special teams player. That's how he got
on the active roster to begin with, is because he
was elevated multiple times because of his special teams and
then they found out that his contribution was so good
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it had value to be and have him on the
active roster, and he's continued to produce in that role.
Now he's really also started to show his wares as
a tight end.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Plenty more ahead were turned with Spiroditus of CBS Sports
second straight week.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
He'll have the call on the NFL on CBS.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
This week is the Jaguars and the Cardinals and this
is JAG's HQ on Jaguars Radio.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Welcome Back, Jaggs HQ presented by Fresh from Florida continues
right now.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Welcome back JP Shadwick with you Jeff Logman coming back shortly.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
The Jaguars and the Cardinals coming up the.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
NFL on CBS will have the telecast this Sunday of
four h five Eastern kickoff time. Second straight week, Spiro
DDAs will have the call that a Marcea Letta and
Addi Kinkawalla on the sidelines. I caught up with Spiro
earlier this week, and I'll actually have three straight Jaguar
games this week and then next week against the Titans
as well. He said last week's win said a lot
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about what's going on in the Jags organization.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Yeah, I thought it was a significant moment for Liam
Cohen and the staff. I thought it was a significant
moment for the team because, as you know, when you
have an experience, a traumatic experience the way they had
the week before against the Texans, that next game is
so critical and I think so often tells you about
the character and the makeup of a team. And so
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to have the performance that they did against the Chargers
team JP that came in confident, the way that they
were playing, they just knocked off for a confident Pittsburgh
team the week before. I thought it says a lot
about the team. I thought it was a big moment
for Liam. His message I think is clearly resonating. That's
always an encouraging sign for a team that's trying to
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climb the ranks and ascend the way that they are,
And I just thought, overall, if I'm a Jags fan,
really encouraging sign, because I think that truly was the
significant psychological hurdle that they cleared on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Well, the Jaguars defense, I mean, put together an incredible
performance against one.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Of the top offenses in football.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I guess the question now is that sustainable because we've
seen some of that this year then has gone away
for a while.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
How do they sustain that moving ahead?
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Well, I think when you can affect the quarterback the
way that they were able to on Sunday and really
defanged an offense that again was really starting to play well.
I know that Chargers have had o line issues and
protection issues, but Justin Herbert has had a really, you know,
all pro type season and he just never looked comfortable
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in that game. And I think when you can do
that upfront with your front, it masks some issues that
you have on the back end. And clearly Jacksonville right
now has some injuries in the secondary and that part
of the field that I think is a concern for sure.
But if Trayvon Walker, if josh Heinz Allen can get
to the quarterback to the way that they did on Sunday,
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I think it is sustainable. But you know, we're just
gonna have to wait and see how they look this
week and over the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Spiroditas CBS Sports has to call.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
The Jaguars and the Cardinals still always a fun time
to be a fan of Kalais Campbell, though eighteenth year
in the National Football League, five sacks still impacting the
game I mean last year, the guy's in handcuffs two
hours before the Jaguars game and then comes out with
a sack and a TfL in the first two plays.
This guy has unlimited petrol in his tank, I think.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
And I bet he had a smile on his face
later that day when he finished playing that game.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
You know he is.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
He is a physical marb. I think everyone knows that
a guy at his size to be able to play
now into the age of forty with the punishment that
you take at that position is one thing. The other
thing that strikes me, and we've had a chance to
sit with kalais Now multiple times over the last couple
of years, with all these different stops that he's experienced,
and Adam rcha Letta brought this up. When you're a
veteran player in the NFL who's been a star early on,
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and as you age and your role is decreased more
often than not, not by your choice but the coach's
choice because of maybe diminishing skills or just father time,
you tend to become a little bitter as a player.
And Arch has said that the biggest thing that strikes
him once you get past all the physical stuff is
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just his disposition is so is so amazing. He's still
so positive and such a team oriented guy. He's accepted
his lesser role. He's been just like a god send
in every locker room he's been in, whether it be Miami,
whether it be now with the Cardinals. And I just
think that makes him even more unique with all the
other stuff that we marvel at with him, all the
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physicality and just the sheer size of him as a person.
You know, if you sit with him in the same room,
that's the only time you can truly appreciate just how
large of a man he is and his physical skill
set to be able to move the way he does
and be so nimble. But he's just he's an incredible guy.
I think, you know, you can make a pretty good
argument that he should be in the Hall of Fame
one day.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
The Spiroudinus of the NFL on CBS. The full conversation
coming soon on the Jaguars Podcast Network. We'll return with
Jeff Logman ahead of this Jaguars Cardinals match. Jump back
with us after this. It is jags HQ on the
Jaguars Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Welcome Back jags HQ, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
right now.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
JP Shadwick and Jeff Logman back with us.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
The Jaguars and the Cardinals coming up in Week twelve,
four h five, kickoff time this Sunday at State Farm Stadium.
Name we haven't really touched on much is wide receiver
Jacobe Myers. Last week logs with six targets, five catches,
sixty four yards, a lot of those in key moments,
third downs. It seems like he's really settling in here
in Jacksonville.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Ye, he definitely is.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
And the thing that continues to impress me is what
James Gladstone described as his superpower when they acquired him,
which is catching the football. And during the broadcast, I
actually made the comment that it looks like his arms
actually got longer as he went across the middle. I mean,
because look, I mean there's a lot of guys that
they just don't like it in there. You know, the
arms get shorter, a little less committed. In Jacoby's arms,
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I mean, his arms get longer when it gets loud
and he gets inside of traffic. And that's impressive. And
that's a trait definitely that you want to have. And
I think the interesting thing is just kind of jumping ahead,
which obviously sometimes you don't like to do, but you know,
you give up a fourth and a six for him,
and so when you do that, I mean there's obviously
some intention about maybe trying to get him for the
(40:58):
longer term than just as one year rental. So it's
going to be interesting to see how that goes down.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
I talked to him in the locker room today and
I asked him, Hey, are you settling into this offense?
How much of it have you learned it? He's like, Wow,
it's really so late in the season. It's just kind
of a week to week game plan type of thing,
right for him. I mean, you don't need to know
the whole playbook. Let's figure out how I can help
contribute week to week with this offense.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Well, I think it was interesting and at the first
game that he played, you know, which was obviously against
the Texans, that the play count was right around forty
percent of the offense. They had him basically available in
eleven personnel.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
For the entire package.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Well, this past game they had him available for the
entire package of all personnel groupings I was told, which
is a playtime percentage went up into the sixty sixty
something percent range. You know, kudos to him, and you know,
if I'm him, I'm I'd love to be able to
sign an extension here, which is, you know, stuff for
further down the road. But look, he's from right up
the road, just out of side of Atlanta to a
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little bit to the east of Atlanta and Lithonio, Georgia.
So mean, why wouldn't you want to try to end
up stand close to.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Home, especially if he can perform down the stretch here
and put up some numbers in a place that could
be comfortable for him. It's been so far, so good
for Jacoby Myers. We're back in a moment our final
thoughts ahead of the Jaguars Cardinals matchup this Sunday. It's
Jaggs HQ on Jaguars Radio.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Welcome Back Jaggs HQ, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
right now the.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Final moments of Jags h QJP Shadwick, Jeff Logoan, Cardinals
Jaguars coming up.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
The both teams with long injury.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Reports, but a few notables for the Jaguars limited today.
Brenton Strange second straight day that he has been limited.
Miss last week window is open that could move forward
as this week goes along. Brian Thomas Junior limited both
days with the ankle injury. Anton Harrison the right tackle
as well, but Trayvon Walker on a to go in
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Wednesday or Thursday practice with a knee issue. That would
be certainly a hit to this Jags defense. But boy,
if they could get Briton Strange back, with the way
the other tight end and the extra alignment have been
playing in the run game, lookout.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
If you get him back and he's the Brenton Strange
pre injury, and that's obviously you know, the big question
is is he going to be able to come back
and be one hundred percent? And I would think that
with a player of his caliber, that you don't want
to have him come back until he's really ready to
contribute in a significant way. So that is something to
definitely watch for because if you have Brenton Strange, I
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think that just adds to what you've kind of established
last week against the Chargers. He's such a dominant physical
force and also a safety net kind of so to
speak for Trevor in the passing game. It would be
huge to have him back if he's one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Jaguars six and four, Cardinals three and seven. The Jaguars
head out West one more time this season, actually against
Denver later in the year as well, but Mountain time
zone game against the team they haven't beaten in a
long time. Trying to get it done this week and
maintain that momentum. Logs have a great week. Jags All
Access tonight. Yes it is Bacial two. Jags running back
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Here in Jacksonville for Jeff Logman, I'm JP Shadwick or
thanks to Joe Fortunado, David cho and Brent Reaver, and
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