APRIL 13: FLORIDA KEYS MEDIA GENERAL MANAGER & ‘VOICE OF THE CONCHS’ RICK LOPEZ

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
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And whenever you want, you could listen to this podcast. So,
welcome back everybody. Um It's another great week and we're
rolling downhill. A baseball season is gearing up for districts
and there's a lot of high hopes of a lot
of teams in Monroe County. Um track and field is

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going strong. They're also getting ready to move on.
Boys. Weight lifting is getting ready to go to states.
I know that Coral Shores has a number of weightlifters
going and marathon has one. Let's talk about what happened
last week, last week in the Keys marathon. Baseball lost

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3 to 1 to Highlands, Christian. Uh Coral Shores softball
was able to beat marathon 8 to 6 at the
beginning of the year. Marathon. B Coral Shores So they're
gonna split for the year.
Key West boys lacrosse loses 14 to 1 to Cypress Bay.
Coral Shore's baseball loses to Shaman Madonna, 10, nothing. Coral

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Shore's boys lacrosse, uh, gets a forfeit win against Palmer.
Key West softball beats Keys gate 13 to 1
marathon. Baseball beats Palmer 5 to 4. A big game
last week for marathon. They were playing the number one
team in their conference. Um, Dylan Eels had another great

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night on the mound and Ryan Yvon hit a three
run home run. Very exciting end to that game for marathon.
They're having a very good season this year
along with Key West high school. Um, Key West Lacrosse
lost to Bishop Bureau. Coral Shores softball, lost to Gulliver

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Marathon softball, defeated Hialeah 20 to 0 marathon baseball. Uh,
got a forfeit win against Everglades. Prep.
Key West softball was able to defeat slam 14 to 6.
Key West baseball beat Miami Palmetto
3 to 0. K Shore's baseball lost uh, 11 7
to Keys Gate. Key West baseball was able to beat

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Palmetto in the second game of that series. 10 to 3.
So the big story going on right now is Key
West baseball in a very familiar spot. They are number
one in the state in four A. Everybody knows that
they have a great pitching staff. They have a great
overall team. I think they have four pitchers who have

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already signed scholarships to division one schools
and Key West High School is getting ready for the postseason.
So we'll be on the lookout. We'll be reporting on
them as they hopefully, I guess they'll be going for
1/12 state title. And so Key West High School already
has 11 state championships. We've talked about them a little

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bit on this podcast before. Uh,
you could hear about a couple of them if you
go back two weeks, we talked to head coach of
Key West High School Ralph Enriquez on the Keys weekly
sports wrap podcast with coach mcdonald. So it was a big,
big time, big time program and they are doing very well. Um,

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last week, like I talked about Key West High School
played against Palmetto in one game and in Rady went
three for three, got a single, double and triple only
a home run away from hitting for the cycle
in three of the Kochs four hits. Gabe Williams earned
the final hit in the 30 win. Lucky Barroso threw
for six innings, earning the win for Key West and

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Jacob Burnham gave him an inning in relief in one game.
The next day, the Kochs collected multiple hits from Jack
Haggard Matt Greenberg, Sam Holland, Jose Peron Williams and Brady
Wyatt Coon had a base hit to make it 13
for Key West Felix only earned the win
for the Conchs throwing six innings against the Tigers and

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Marlon Tako closed it out to give Key West a
solid 15 to 4 win. I'm sorry, 15 to 4
record with seven games left in the regular season. Key
West is holding on to the top spot in the
FHS A four A rankings with district action beginning May
1st
marathon loss last week to Highlands Christian early and had

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the big win against Palmer. Um Yablon hit the big
home run against Palmer. It was a big night for them.
Dylan Zeal and Brian Broch teamed up in pitching with
that win with Broch being awarded the win. The Fins
record stands at 11 and five.
Coral Shores last week in baseball suffered two losses, bringing

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their record to four and 11 on the season. They
played at Mina Madonna on April 4th losing 10 0
and on April 7th, the result would be closer but
not quite close enough for the Hurricanes in a 11
to 7 loss against Keys Gate. Now, the podcast usually
comes out on Thursdays today if you pick up your
Keys weekly, which I recommend highly. First thing I do

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as soon as I see it on my driveway on Thursday,
I'm picking up the Keys weekly and seeing what's going
on in the Keys.
The sports rep is gonna have a lot of stories,
but they're also gonna have the All Keys Girls weightlifting team.
So you definitely want to check that out. I'm not
gonna give you any spoilers. You're gonna have to look
at the newspaper to see who the MVP is and
who made the team. So definitely check out the print

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edition of the Keys weekly sports wrap and so you
can get all of your keys news and information about
everything going on from the upper keys all the way
down to Key West. And,
you know, um, one of the things we wear many
different hats in the mcdonald household, you know, Tracy mcdonald,
she does most of the writing, she does all the

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writing for the sports rap. I do the podcast. You know,
we both are teachers, we both are coaches and I'm
actually the head football coach at Marathon High School. And
another job of that is running the Marathon football
um, Facebook page. And that's marathon high school football home
of the Dolphins. And what we try to do is
profile a different team, uh, you know, every week or

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so from the past and this past week I got
a lot of great feedback from the 1980 Marathon football team.
So I thought I'd talk about them for about two
minutes and give them a shout out, you know, marathon
football started in 1970 was the first year and it's
the last of the three major high schools to actually
get football.
Key West had football in the 19 twenties. They were

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literally taking boats to play teams. I mean, they've been
playing football for a very long time in Key West
and Coral Shores also has had a football team for
a much longer time than marathon. But with the football
team started in 1970 1980 was a banner year for
the Marathon Dolphins. It was the first year Rick Hale

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was the head football coach at Marathon. And by the
end of the season, they were ranked third in the state.
They had an eight and two record. Um, RALs club
shut out big rival, Mary Immaculate 46. Nothing and Coral
Shores 19 to 0. It was a team of many first.
It was the first marathon team to win eight games
in a season. It was the first team to rack

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up 3000 yards of offense. They gave up a very,
very small amount of points, 83 points in 10 games.
So 8.3 points a game,
Adair Hendrix becomes the Marathon's first. Definitely not last, but
he was the 1st 1000 yard back with 11 with,
I'm sorry, 1011 yards. Paul Hayes set the interception mark

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with seven in those days. You know, I was, I
was reading through this and doing the research and some
of the old timers, I can't believe I'm an old timer.
Some of the old timers can remember in high school football,
you did not move on to the playoffs unless you
won your district. And
unfortunately for marathon, one of those two losses came against
a district rival in the last game of the season. So,

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like I said, in those days, if you won your district,
you went to the playoffs, there wasn't any kind of
wild card teams or nowadays, district runner up goes and
there's a lot of opportunities, but it was very, very
rare and special to win your district in football and
move on to the playoffs and it didn't happen all
the time. And even though

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that's one of the best teams marathon has ever fielded,
they did not move on to the playoffs, but that's
not gonna take anything away from them. And if you
check out the marathon football, marathon high school football home
of the Dolphins, Facebook, you will see pictures from that
season too. And if you guys have any pictures, Coral
Shores Marathon, Key West, any sport, any kind of thing,

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you could send them to sports at Keys weekly dot
com and,
and we'll put them up on somewhere, but I would
love to have them. I would love to see them.
I would love to pass them out to people that
follow this podcast because it's one of the fun things
that we do here. So, talking about things that make
the Keys unique. Let's talk about one thing I can't

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believe in when I came down here in 1997 you know,
from Miami, coming from the big city.
I couldn't believe that Key West high school football games
are on the radio and then I couldn't believe that
Key West high school basketball or
uh, baseball games. And I can remember before I was
living on Big Pine driving up in Marathon one Friday

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night and I heard the football game being played on
the radio and it just blew me away. And it's
one of the things that make our communities great is
how everybody still buys into all the high school sports here.
And one of the biggest reasons for that from the
beginning has been Rick Lopez and he's coming on the
podcast today and he's gonna talk about how he broke

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into the radio business and
starting to broadcast all the conk games and a lot
of his memories including having a son win a state
championship while he's calling the game and, and a guy
that I think a lot, a lot of, and I
know a lot of people in the community do. I
want you guys to sit back and enjoy and let's
listen to voice of the Conchs, Rick Lopez.

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Right today on the podcast, the tables are turned, you know,
you have this guy, this icon, a voice of a
generation to people in the Florida Keys. And he is
coming on to my show and I'm gonna ask him questions.
This is a big deal for me because, you know,
to start it out, moving down here to the Florida
Keys in 1997. I, one of the first things I

(11:10):
I couldn't believe was the fact that I could hear
high school football games and high school baseball games on
the radio. And a big part of that is this guy. Welcome,
Rick Lopez.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Hey Sean. Thank you so much. It's great to be
with you

Speaker 1 (11:23):
today. Well, thank you so much for coming on and
I'm really been looking forward to this podcast for a
long time because before we even start and I know
I told you this in person before, but,
you know, this is something that, that is, I really
enjoy doing and going back in time and talking to
all these people that make prep sports in the Florida
keys great. But, uh, you know, for, you were the

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genesis of, of this for me because years ago, I
don't know how many years ago I, I caught, it
was in the summer time on the radio and you
had these long form interviews, I think it was a
two part series with Brooks, with Brookie Carey
and, and I was riveted by that and I kept

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thinking to myself when I, when is Rick gonna do more?
I want, I want to hear more of these and
I really enjoyed that. And then for years, I was like,
this would be great. This would be great. So this
is a big, you're a big reason why I started
the podcast. And thank you. And sort of,

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I'm glad I could put you in the right direction. Well,

Speaker 1 (12:28):
absolutely. You know, we have about seven listeners here So,
it's been a big deal for all of them and,
and now you're gonna, hopefully you'll be the eighth listener
if you listen to your own podcast. No,
it, it's been a lot of fun. But I have
a lot of questions for you, Rick and let's, let's
just start. I know that you graduated from Key West

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High School in 1984. But what happened before that? Where
were you born? Where, where were you brought up at?
How did that?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Well, I, I actually Sean graduated in 1980

Speaker 1 (12:58):
five. Not the last

Speaker 2 (13:01):
year. Yeah. Right. Well, that's ok. I make mistakes all
the time,
but I always have fun with that on the radio too.
But anyway, but I graduated in 1985 and I was
a military kid. Uh, I was born in Norfolk, Virginia and, uh,
grew up in the military. Uh, right after I was
right after I was born, my, uh, my dad went

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to Vietnam and he was there for almost two years.
And so the, the first two years of my life,
I grew up in Pittsburgh, uh, with my mom and
her family
and then my dad came back, uh, and we were,
I was wondering who the hell is this guy? Uh,
and then that, that was, uh, start of, uh, uh,

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my life growing up in the military and it was
one of the, I had a wonderful childhood. I really did.
I was so honored and, and, and, and enjoyed really, I,
I enjoyed being a military kid and we moved and I,
and I liked the challenges of, of going to new
and different places. And we had lived in the Panama
Canal Zone for many years and then uh back in

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the United States all over the place. And then
very fortunately in 1984 the summer of 84 we moved
uh here to Key West and, and it was my
senior year and I, I still joke with my parents
to this day. It was like, what took us so
long to get here? I mean, I as a kid
as a military kid, a lot of times you're, you're

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looking for a, a home. And I had, we had
been in camp Lejeune, North Carolina for four years prior
to coming here and I went to Lee High school there.
I wish I, I, if there was one thing I
could change in my childhood, I wish I could, we
could have come to Key West a year sooner because
once I got here, man, did this feel like home

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and just felt so welcomed as soon as I got here.
And um we've never looked back. I mean, this has
been the, the best place in the world for me.
It's my home
town. A lot of people think that you know that
because I'm so associated with the Conchs and been around
forever that I was born and raised here and played
ball here. But that's, that's not the case. II, I, unfortunately,

(15:11):
for me, I only had one year to play at
Key West High School and that was, that was pretty awesome. And, and,
and then I just didn't want to leave.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well, I have a couple of questions. So, what was
it like for you the summer before your senior year?
Moving down to Key West and, and coming into the community?
Did you guys live on base?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yes. We, we lived on base. Uh We went, uh
we left uh camp Lejeune and we got stationed here.
And it's funny because we, we, we pulled in into
town and I can't
the exact day, but it was in August of 1984.
And we pulled in and, and checked into the Fly

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Navy Building there on Trumbo Point. And that very first
day because we had to wait for our house. Our
house was over on Truman Annex. It wasn't quite ready yet.
So we spent like the first couple of weeks when
we got here, the Fly Navy Building. But the day
that we arrove
we checked in, got into the hotel and I immediately
went to football practice the high school football team. The

(16:15):
very first day we got here, I haven't even spent
a night yet and I was out uh with the
football team as they were starting, uh the training camp
for the Conchs back then. So I went right to it.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
You went right to a coach, Pat Freeman. Say that again.
I said it was coach Pat Freeman.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Right.
Yep. Coach Pat Freeman, uh, was our, was our, was
my head coach and we had, we had a great staff, uh,
that year and guys that I would become so close
with over the years, uh, his brother, Chuck Freeman. Uh,
Chuck was Chuck was my favorite coach. I loved playing
for Chuck Freeman. Bobby Menendez was uh on that staff,

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Danny Jimenez, uh Pat Labrada. It was a, it was
a great staff and, and uh
really good football guys and was very fortunate I got
to play for them for one year.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
So coming down to Key West, you probably had never
been here before. Were you shocked at the amount of
sports coverage that Key West High School received and the
amount of people at the game and just the, the
frenzy when it came to Kong Sports, what was that
like for you coming in? Yeah, that

Speaker 2 (17:22):
was, that was pretty cool. I mean, we had, we
had a nice, we would have nice
crowds at Lee High School for football and, and for basketball,
but not much for, for baseball. Uh even back in
1984 when we got here and then you would for
our home football games to see that amount of people
and how this entire city was was coming out there was,

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was pretty amazing for a young kid and just the,
the actual,
the actual involvement of the community in the program. Like it's,
it means everything to this town, Key West High School
and it's, it's so connected and so interwoven uh through
all the generations and whether you had kids that went

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there or not or you went there. I mean, the
people still came out and I thought that was pretty cool.
I thought it, it felt like to me, Sean, it
was a big time atmosphere. I remember when I came,
when now this in the early days, 80
start, 82 83 that time frame, we weren't in high school.
There wasn't a whole lot of, well, at least at
the high school I was at prior uh uh a

(18:27):
huge emphasis on the weight room. Um and, and at,
at Lee high school, our weight room was a nautilus machine.
Yeah, that was it. And then when I got here
and went right into our, the weight room where it
actually still is to this day and working out and,

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and being in there and, and, and doing all the weights, man,
I'm like, I'm like in the big time now. This
is really cool. And that's how, that's how I felt.
I felt like I, I had, I had had a
rove in, in, in a big time place and, and
that's how I still feel this to this day.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
And absolutely a big part of that always has been
like the media coverage because if you can go and
look back at the newspapers from 1984 which I have,
I mean, conch sports regardless of the season is front
and center all the time in the newspaper with an
in-depth coverage for each individual sport
that you never see. So, I mean, I can understand

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where you felt like you were moving into the big time.
You guys were still coming out of the shadow and
I'm gonna say it in 1984 1985 people are still
talking about Speedy Neal. A number of great players coming
out of the program. Um What was your, what was
your senior season like at Key West High School? How
did you guys do?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Well? Uh, we did pretty good. Uh, unfortunately, we didn't,
we did not make the playoffs. That was back in
the days when only the district champion advanced to the
playoffs at that time. Homestead was in our district and
that was the big rivalry and it got pounded into me,

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beat Homestead, beat Homestead, beat Homestead.
We had a really good team, Sean. Uh I was
so proud to be part of that team. I was, uh,
one of the wide receivers on the team and it's funny,
II I joke with folks a lot of times, uh,
James Howard, uh, was
on, that was, was one of the wide receivers, Alvin

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Wims Theodore Thurston. So it was James Howard. Alvin, Wes
Theodore Thurston and me, these guys were pretty, pretty gosh,
darn good and playing with them. One, James Howard was
the best player I ever saw or played with. And
I remember when I, when I, in the first, the

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first week of practice that we were in
and pads, I was, I thought I was doing pretty
good and guys joking around with me that, you know,
you're gonna, you're gonna be starting and you got all
this going on. And I, and I felt real good.
I was having a, a good camp and, and, you know,
I was, I'm not, I'm not the fastest guy, but
I ran good patterns and I, I could catch a
football and all that. Um, but James wasn't there then,

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then he came like a week later he was done
with his family, had a vacation or something like that
and, and I'm looking at this guy and I'm, I'm like,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go head to
head with him. I'm not gonna, I'm gonna beat this
guy out for the starting job and I, I'm going
after it and,
um, Sean about, uh, 20 minutes into that practice. I,
I gave up, I mean, he was Gazelle, he was

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just so, gosh, darn good. Uh, but it was so
much fun to, to play with him and Alvin and,
and Theodore and the, and the whole crew that we
had Joey Gandolfo was our quarterback on that team and,
and set some passing records that year. Um, but we
got to, um,
go back. We had, it was Homestead, us South Dade

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was in our district at, at that time and Homestead
wa came to Key West and, and played us that
year in 84 and we had a couple of big
mistakes in that game as a team. We had had a,
I think it was a punt return for a touchdown maybe. Or,
or there was a penalty. I, I can't remember. But anyway,

(22:20):
they were, they, there were a couple of mistakes that
cost us and,
and we were trailing, uh, 14 to 14 to 6
or 14. No. Yeah, 14 to 6 I think was
the score. Uh, we go down, uh, and this is
late in the game and we're fighting and, and hanging
in there with them through the mistakes that we had made.

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I don't know, there's a minute or so left in
the game. We get a, we get a big touchdown
where it's like 14 to 12. We go for the
two point conversion. It's good to tie the game up,
but we were off sides there. We had an offside penalty, uh,
had to redo it the play again and, uh, we
didn't get it and we ended up losing 14 to
12 and that cost us the, the playoffs.

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So that was, that was pretty heartbreaking at the time.
Because as you know, and being in football all your
life and how hard you work. And for me, it
was like a real chance to, to be part of
a team that went to the playoffs and, and worked
so hard and yet to fall that short on a,
on a penalty on a two point conversion that we converted,

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but then had to do it again and we didn't
and lost and that was pretty much the end of
the season. And that, that was tough. But man, was
it fun? What a great ride. That was.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Well, actually, you know, to, to go through those kinds
of experiences, you're lucky to have that type of thing.
And for the people out there that don't understand what,
what Rick is talking about. If you follow high school
football in this day and age, you know, you're making
the playoffs. Yeah, you won the district, you're the runner up,
you're the at large.
But going back until, you know, the mid to late nineties,
you had a set district and if you didn't win

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the district, then you didn't move on to the playoffs.
So for some reason, I don't know, Rick, if you
probably didn't even play the, the worst part about it,
you know, because that happened, the same, similar thing happened
to me
my senior year in Miami where, you know, we lost
to Miami Northwestern and we still had to play out
the rest of our district, we beat all the other teams.
You know, we end up losing to them like seven nothing.

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But now you're playing the rest of the year hoping
that they're gonna lose a game or two, you know,
that they're not going to and you know, that, like,
all right, we're not making the playoffs, but we have
to continue this season, you know, so that, that makes
it difficult in itself because I'm sure you guys are
doing the same thing.
You're looking at the old school Miami Herald or the
Miami News for the results, hoping that Homestead is gonna

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lose to someone creating a three-way tie in the district
and it just made every single game so important.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
No, it, it really, it really did and, and I'm
not sure how long it was after that year that
they changed it where the top two teams from the district, uh,
made it to the playoffs. I don't think it was
too much further down down the road. But yes, every
game in those days was important, especially when you were
in your district play. And if you think about it today,

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Homestead isn't nearly what it was, but they
a powerhouse back in the, in the late seventies, uh,
through the eighties, actually all the way up until, uh,
hurricane Andrew came through and wiped out Homestead. Remember they
had a, they had a good influx of military kids themselves,
plus all the locals and in those days, Homestead only

(25:35):
had two high schools. Homestead, high school and South Day
and Matt Homestead Bronco team was good. That was a
terrific football program. It was the main rivalry at that
time for Key West and it was sad that we
lost that game. I, I, I'd give anything if we had,
had pulled that one out and, and I would have

(25:56):
had a chance as a player to experience a playoff
game because whether it was playing in football, basketball or baseball,
I never played in the postseason. Not once. And, and
that was my chance and, and it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Now, you bring up a really interesting point and I
want to give all the credit to Key West High
School in the world when it comes to this because
you're absolutely right. When you go back in history, Key
West High School, when you talk about all the different sports,
you know, when you go back to the fifties, sixties, seventies,
eighties and nineties, they were playing these top tier,
uh, public high schools because that, that's all there was.

(26:33):
I remember it like talking to Danny Jimenez, you know,
back in the day and he's talking about when he graduated,
it was a regular season game for them to play
Coral Gables and, and for, for people that don't understand
Coral Gables was mythical national champions, long time state champion
contenders every year. And it was just another game for
Key West and
so Key West has always played against the, these, these

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teams and, and I find it shocking too, Rick, you know,
you follow the high school scene. It's so weird for
me to see, um, the Homesteads, the South Dads, the
Hialeah Miami Lakes, these large public schools are not like
putting out the teams like they were before because everyone
seems to be going to a charter school or a
private school and everyone is so spread out now and

(27:18):
you don't have those types of teams anymore at the
public school. It's weird to watch the landscape change.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah. No, it, it is Sean. And that, that is
a real interesting point because what has happened in high
school is one now today there's so many more schools,
there's so many more charter schools, there's the private prep schools, there's, uh,
you know, the, the Catholic schools that are out there, the,
the thing that has changed,
you know, say in Miami and in, in Broward County,

(27:44):
up in Palm Beach County is, was recruiting. So those
big schools like Coral Gables or Fort Lauderdale High School
or Miami high schools that were big back in the
seventies and eighties. If there's a good player at that school,
they're gonna get, they're gonna get picked off and they're
gonna go to say an American heritage plantation or, or

(28:07):
uh Saint Thomas Aquinas or Cardinal Gibbons or Gulliver or, or, uh,
Belin or, you know, Columbus, whatever it may be because
they have the best facilities. Everything is so nice. And
if you're a parent that if you got a kid
going to Miami Edison and they come knocking at your
door and say, hey, would you like to come over
here to American heritage plantation and play football in this

(28:30):
great program? What are you gonna say as a parents? Yes,
I mean, I want my kid to have the best
education and have the best facilities and all that. And
that's really hurt those big schools. But back in the
seventies and into the eighties and all that and, and
back into the sixties and fifties when the Conks were
playing in that greater Miami athletic conference, that wasn't the case.

(28:51):
Those big schools were big and little Key West used
to have to go up and play those guys all
the time. And it's amazing to see how we did
and how we could hang with those guys and win.
And you're doing it all with just kids that were
born and raised here and grew up here. It's, it's
pretty remarkable when you, if you go back and think
about what those teams had to go through and how

(29:14):
they had to play and pretty amazing

Speaker 1 (29:17):
when you go back and you look, and I don't know,
I'm sure that you saw the movie, you watched a
television show. But if you read the book Friday Night Lights,
it's a very similar comparison
to the two towns and the type of kids that
they had because in Odessa they had, it was a
very rural community and they just had these super tough
kids that were brought up in a very hard way

(29:38):
and they just refused to lose. And I think a
lot of those Key West Conch teams really, really were
cut from the same mold as that.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah. And, and you hear that Sean when you, when
you talk to, to the older Conchs and, and they
were the Fighting Conks in those days, they would be
ready to throw down with anybody if you have a
chance to sit down with people like George Myra and
Powell and, and, and, you know, that's, that's a, uh,
and you think about it and those, those guys were,
were playing all three sports at Key West High School.

(30:08):
It wasn't specialized back then. You played football and then
you would play basketball, then you would play baseball and,
and, and that's also the, the thing that makes it
so special here because
a kid will, you know, is born here and raised here.
They start playing together, say in Little League, maybe T
ball at age four years old, they're playing with, uh,

(30:30):
with their contemporaries and they're still playing with each other
when they're in 12th grade and there's a camaraderie and
a connection that is different than any other place because
it is, we're so small and we're just, we're, we're
so much a part of one another
that I think is one of the reasons that we've

(30:51):
had just tremendous success and, and to this day when
we're dealing with playing with all these private schools or
prep schools or now even other other big public high
schools that kids want to go play at and they're
recruiting and they're just bringing in the best, gosh, darn players.
It's not, that's not building a team. To me that's

(31:13):
almost like buying a team, building a program is developing
your kids
and making them a football team or a baseball team
or a basketball team. And that's what we have to
do here every year and, and develop these kids to,
to become a cohesive unit and when we beat those teams,
nothing is better than that. It really feels good.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, it's very interesting because I was just having a
discussion this past week about this same very thing and
something that I never realized before, Rick, uh, you know, I, I,
I'm not gonna like, name a public, a private school,
but if you take a private school out of Miami
and they have a baseball team and, you know, they go,
and they play a game in the morning
in Miami, they go back to their school and they

(31:56):
drop off and you might have somebody going to Broward
somebody going to homestead, somebody going to Westchester and those
guys really don't live together. They're not sweating together. They
haven't been together all the time. There's no, like we're
fighting for this city, we're playing for this town. And
I think that those guys lose out. And then in

(32:16):
talking to Coach Enriquez last week, you know, he, he
told me
if he didn't want to have to go on an
away game, he wouldn't have to, he could have all
home games because everybody wants to come to Key West
and play because of the atmosphere and the way everything

(32:37):
is because, you know, you travel around, you might go
to the number one team in the nation, state, football, basketball, baseball,
and it's some small private school and there might be
12 people there.
Right. Exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and to Ralphie's point, he's right.
You know, that he doesn't have to go on the road, uh,
especially for baseball because all these programs, they, so many
of the, and these top flight baseball programs wanna come
and they want to bring their teams here. They want
to be in front of 5, 800 people, uh,
for a weekend, uh, series, put them in a hostile

(33:14):
environment and see how their team handles it as they
build for the playoffs. Yeah. Ralphie. Ralphie can have every
game at home if he wants to because you have
that here. You have all that coverage of the game
and all the excitement and, and the history that goes
along with playing here. I, uh, just, just a couple
of weeks ago when Terra Bella
was here playing and we were in a commercial break

(33:34):
and our, my broadcast booth is at the end of
the first base bleachers and it's, and, uh, I had
my headsets off and I heard that the game was
really tight. It was, it was a really good game.
And I, the head coach had said to somebody in the,
in the stands, he was talking to one of the
parents or whatever from Taravella and said that's why we
come here.
That's why we come here to have games like this.

(33:57):
And you get that because Sean, when you go out
to a baseball game at Rex, we field,
what happened in 1953 is still relevant to this day.
There's no place like it where I have never seen,
I've been to so many high schools. I went to
another high school, uh outside of Key West High school

(34:18):
as a kid
traveling and going to all these different places across the
state and into other states. Uh with the con, I've
never seen anything like it. I've never seen the passion,
the commitment and love for our high school programs than
what you see for Key West High School. It makes
this place such a special place because what happened

(34:40):
happened in 1953 70 years ago when we won our
first state championship, we've been talking about it all this
year and it's like, it's still there. It's still relevant.
It still means the world to all kos and that's
what you get when you come here and play. And it, and,
and in baseball particularly because

(35:02):
it's ridiculous when you think about it, that a program
has won 11 state championships. It, it's so hard to
win just one just to think about it. Just one
go over prep is an incredible baseball program. I have
seen some unreal teams that they have had in the

(35:23):
25 years that I've been doing this on the radio.
You know how many state championships they got? 11.
It's so hard to do and it's, it's almost like
an embarrassment of riches to say this little island, Key
West and the kids that you have and what we
just talked about growing up and playing t-ball together no

(35:46):
matter what year it was to whenever we won those
state championships
that these guys have done it and beaten everybody else.
And from 1953 all those titles in the fifties, the
69 title, the 84 title, the three titles in the nineties,
the 05 title. You can just go back in time

(36:07):
and look and really, it's the same thing. It's the
same format and it's all been developed on a three
by Four Island. And that, that's, that's crazy to even
think about because it is so
couple that we've won 11, the school that's tied with us,
Miami Christian uh, excuse me, um uh uh uh Westminster,

(36:30):
West Westminster Christian has, has 11 titles as well. But the,
the difference to me is here, that's the school that
brought in a Rod and all those other guys and
they have, you know, an all-star team every year and
that goes back to the recruiting and all that,
but we've done it just homegrown kids, some military kids

(36:53):
sprinkled in here every now and then. But it's basically
the kids that grow up here and have done these
remarkable things.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
It's, it's incredible to show and for people to understand
the passion that you have for the program. What really,
what really caught me, what I couldn't believe, um, is
doing a little research was
the 94 95 96. Like we know, 95 and 96
they win the state championship, but I didn't know in
94 they go and they lose by one. But what

(37:24):
an incredible three year run and then you add in
the 98 team, I mean, just an incredible run for
such a small island and so many different players.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Right. And, you know, if you go back to that,
that run in, in 94 it really could have been Sean. Uh,
they could have won three in a row there. 94
95 and 96 in 94 there was a controversial, uh, play. Um,
that was right before I started doing the broadcasting games.
Before I came back home.

(37:54):
But there was a, uh, there was a, a foul
ball and there was this area up the, up the,
up the foul line. II, I believe it was on the,
the first base side and that they had told the
coaches that this area is marked off. There's no fence
around it, but it's, it's a camera. Well, and if
the ball goes in there that is out of play and, uh,

(38:17):
there was a ball popped up there. We went over
to make the grab. Uh, he was, uh, the kid
was standing in the, in that,
in that camera, supposed camera well, area and they said, no,
it's not an out. And that ended up hurting the
team and ended up losing that game on a tight one.
But then that crew that, that came back in 95
and 96 was an unstoppable group. They went on that

(38:39):
one run, uh, with that crew that won 44 games
in a row, 44 games in a row.
How does that happen? Uh It, it's, it's, and that
was under the direction of Ralph Enriquez and, and still,
I know one of the most proudest things that he's
done at Key Us High School was that streak because
it'll never be seen again there. It's, it's just almost

(39:00):
impossible to do that. But that group did and they
were so good and then, and then we did it
again in 98. So
that was, you, look at the, the two like golden eras,
we'll say the fifties or the golden era. But would
we say now that the nineties are part of that
golden era isn't that long ago

Speaker 1 (39:19):
now, but

Speaker 2 (39:20):
that, but that was, and they won, we won five
state championship
chips in the fifties and then we won three more
in the nineties. And it, and it could have been,
it could have been four in the nineties and, and
maybe even a couple of more if certain players hadn't
left our program and all that. But that was, that
was an amazing, amazing decade when you are, those two

(39:42):
decades are, are two of the best and will be
tough to match ever again. Well,

Speaker 1 (39:47):
we're gonna, we're gonna break down some more of those teams.
But let's talk. So you graduate high school? What, what
do you do next?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
All right. So I had every intention of, of doing
going into the family business, which was, um, the Marine Corps.
My dad, uh, was a very proud marine for 33 years. Uh, he, uh,
he, uh, he started as a buck private and retired

(40:15):
as a, as a major and all my friends from, uh,
were in, in North Carolina and Camp Lejeune. They were
all planning to go into the Marine Corps and that
was my, my thought. Now I only had one year
of high school here. So when I graduated high school,
I started going to FKCC and,
and for my start my college career and it was a,

(40:37):
it was a great little school and, and, and enjoyed it.
And one day they used to have these um newsletters. Uh,
back there in 85 86 the, the newsletter was just
like a, you know, you know, I remember

Speaker 1 (40:51):
paper. Yes, I

Speaker 2 (40:52):
remember.
And, and at the time in that little little news flyer,
there was a help wanted little section in it and
FM 107 was looking for someone to run the Casey
Case show, American top 40. And this is, this is,
this is for March of 1986.

(41:16):
And I, and I, I had always thought I was
gonna be a big baseball player or whatever. That was
always my dream as a kid and never really thought
too much about broadcasting until I, we got cable for
the first time in 1980 81 time frame when I

(41:36):
got to start watching Chicago Cub games on television.
And Harry Carey was the guy for me. I'm like,
I'm looking at this guy Sean and he's having so
much fun. I'm like, ok, well, he's, he's not playing but,
you know, he's broadcasting and, and people love this guy
and he's just, and he, you could just see, I

(41:58):
could just feel how much fun that man was having
calling games and all that. And I said, you know,
maybe that might be a interesting thing to do.
And when I saw that, that ad in the little
newsletter at FKCC as FM 107 was looking for just
somebody to run the Casey Case show. And I'm like, I'll,

(42:18):
I'll do that. I went over there and I met
with Joe Russo who was the general manager at the
time
and he said, ok, um, that's great. You can, I'd
like to hire you to do that. But will you
do me a favor? Can you make a audition tape
for me? Now? I didn't like, what do you mean
you want me to make an audition tape? I didn't
have any plans to speak or anything like that. I

(42:42):
just was looking for a little part time thing to
see what radio was. Like I said, yeah, I, I
guess I'll, I'll, I'll make a, I'll, I'll make an
audition tape there that day.
So I make the audition tape and, and he, and
he thanks me and I, and I, and I go
home and at the time I was still living at
my parents' house on Truman Annex in, in that first

(43:03):
year of, of uh junior college. And I get a
call uh, back. I, I don't know Sean, maybe an
hour later. And Joe Russo says to me, Rick, that's
the best audition tape I ever heard. I'm hiring you
immediately and you start tonight working midnight to six.
Now that was had to be Sean, the worst audition

(43:28):
tape that was ever made in the history of radio.
It was probably so bad. It didn't even stick to
the cassette tape. It couldn't have been, it was horrible.
All he needed was somebody, any monkey to come in
and at that time it was before automation and he
needed some
to, to watch the radio station from midnight to six.

(43:50):
And that's how it all started. I bought into the
whole thing. I was 19 years old and I'm like, yes, yes,
I am. Yeah, I'm gonna be in radio and I,
00 my God. I'm, I'm so good. No, I wasn't good.
I just needed somebody there because he had, he was
filling in and covering for a guy who had just quit.
And, uh that's how it all started. And I, and I,

(44:10):
I bought into it, hook line and sinker and I've,
and then I, I've never gotten out of the game.
I've been in radio ever since. And uh that's, but
that's how it all started for me. So, just by
chance wanting to go, go, just run the American top
40 show with Casey Cason. I, I

Speaker 1 (44:29):
love the story. Number one. number two, you're working midnight shifts,
you know, in Key West doing local radio.
Uh, just for, for my own curiosity. You remember what
your pay was for that at the time? Was that,
what was your pay? What, what was

Speaker 2 (44:44):
your pay? Gosh. Jeez Sean. I think I made, like,
$300 a week. Right. Yeah, I had, I, I was, I,
I was still going, I started there and I had
every intention of staying in, uh, college there. Uh, but,
you know, some,
sometimes that doesn't work out and especially when you're working
midnight to six. And I said I want to have

(45:05):
this career in radio. I, I also had a part-time
job at Jay Byron's. If you remember Jay Byron's

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Jackson Byron.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah. And that was where, what's now a pubs there
in the Kmart Plaza? And I had a good little
job there and I was going to school. But, but
then after,
after a few months and I just stopped going to
classes and, you know, this is what I want to
try and do. I want to be in radio and, and,
and that's what

Speaker 1 (45:33):
happened. So, when you were working, when you were doing that, uh,
midnight to six, what was the format? What, what were
you doing? You were spinning the hits you were playing records. Yeah,

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I was, uh, my name was Rock and Rick Allen.
That was my, my DJ name.
And, uh, and so, uh, that it was a, it
was a top 40 radio station in those days and, uh,
it was, everything was on cassette tape, on reel to
reel tapes. So we had four reel to reels, right?

(46:05):
That you would go play
a song from one reel, then you play a song
from another reel and one would have the current hits,
one would have hits that were just, you know, like
a couple of months old now and then there was
like a, uh, a gold one with old, older stuff.
It was, it was, it was very interesting but everything,
you had to have somebody in the radio station 24

(46:27):
hours a day back then. And that's, uh, that's what
we were doing. And um, and I never wanted to
be in sales and,
and I remember the, we had a meeting uh and
John Magno was the owner of 107 and called everybody
in and I was just a kid, Sean II. I

(46:48):
may have been, I think I was like 19 years
old and I just started
and he had everybody in there and he says, uh
who here is not interested in doing sales and like
a dummy, I raise my hand and said, no, I
don't want to do sales. And man, did he jump
down my throat? If you're in this business, you're in sales,
you gotta sell every time. Ba ba, ba, ba ba. And,

(47:10):
and I, I mean, I felt like I was like
three inches tall. I mean, he just got in my
face in front of the whole staff and blew me
up and,
and, and, and he's right in a way because that's
what it is. I, I in radio, you you, you know,
you're always trying to sell and, and, and do a
good job. And
I was like, what the hell have I gotten myself into?

(47:32):
I'm working midnight to six. I got the owner screaming
at me because I didn't want to do sales. But
somehow I stayed in

Speaker 1 (47:38):
there rocking Rick Allen

Speaker 2 (47:40):
and Rick Allen. He

Speaker 1 (47:42):
didn't, he didn't know that sales was a part of it.
Rock and Rick Allen was an artist dedicated to his
business of making music and telling everybody what's cool from
midnight to six. Do any, here's the big question.
Do any air checks of rocking Rick Allen exist?

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Oh, my God, Sean.
Wow. I, I can't imagine that there are, I had them, uh,
I don't know, probably I have to go look deep in,
in my, uh, my, my files here at that the house. Now,
that would be great to, to get that. It, it

(48:21):
was funny how quick though I, I did move up there. I,
I did the midnight, uh, to six shift, uh, for, uh, oh, man,
I don't know, probably six months and then I, and then,
and then I got, then I, then I got, they
moved me to 10 to 2 and then I was doing, uh,
2 to 2 to 7 before I left. And so I,

(48:41):
I made kind of a quick rise there and, uh,
it was a great learning experience in those couple of
years that I was there and, and taught me, I,
I learned a lot about the business and which, you know,
I still use to this day

Speaker 1 (48:56):
when, you know, I'm always fascinated. Obviously, I've always been
like a fan of talk radio, hence, podcast. You know,
I always loved your guys show. I always listened to
you guys. So when you were coming up, then during
that time period, you know, Rock and Rick Allen, I'm
sure you had different personas. What was your goal? Did
you want to be a Howard Stern? Did you want to,

(49:18):
to get syndicated? Did you want to get discovered or,
or what was your, did you want to be a
sports guy? Were you trying to do
color? What were your aspirations at that at that

Speaker 2 (49:28):
time? No, I, I thought that I was gonna be,
you know, just a big time radio. DJ. I wanted
to go to New York City. I wanted to go
to L A or something like that. That was kind
of my, my thought to play to play music. It
wasn't actually until I went to New York and,
and got a job up there at a, at a radio.

(49:49):
I got hired to do, uh, a high school football, uh,
for this, uh in Mount Kisco, New York. And that's,
that's a whole other story when I decided that sports
is what I really want to do with my life
because what I, what I learned in radio and as I,
as I was gravitating to that. I said, well, you know, II,
I didn't make it as, as a baseball player, but

(50:11):
I could get paid
to, to talk about baseball. I talk about sports and
that is what really intrigued me and what I wanted
to do. So

Speaker 1 (50:21):
then when you made that realization, how did you move
forward in fulfilling that?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Well, um, we, I got, uh, I, I got married
when I was very young and, and I married a
fellow DJ at FM 107. And she was from, from
New York City and,
and we got married and, and we had a child,
but we, we went to New York because she wanted
to go to New York. That's how I, I left

(50:47):
Key West and
she got hired at this station W VIP in Mount Kisco,
New York. And I was taking her up there. I
didn't have a job at the time. I just moved
to New York um as a 20 year old kid,
uh with a pregnant wife uh into New York City. Now,

(51:10):
you have to understand in, in my background. I, I
was a military kid. I spent my whole life growing
up on military bases and,
and had just left Key West. And the next thing
I know, I'm, I'm in the middle of the Bronx
at 20 years old. It's like, what, what is, where did,
how did this come about? Uh But Mount Kisco. I

(51:32):
don't know. I, I can't remember Sean. It's about 50 miles, um, in,
up from New York City in Westchester County there, a
very nice place. And, uh, they had, uh, they were
doing high school football games there and,
and I was talking with the program director and, and I,
I wasn't working, I just moved up there with nothing

(51:53):
and with the hopes of finding something
because she wanted to go back to New York. And, um,
and he said, well, look, we, we've got this little
sports show that we do on Saturdays, like a recap show.
And we also do the high school football games, Fox
Lane High School. Um,
would you be interested in doing that? And I said, yeah,

(52:17):
I would, I'd love to try that and that's when
I did my first play by play. Uh, and it
was for football for Fox Lane High School and I
did that for two years for them and, and I,
and I kind of grew as a broadcaster there and,
and then eventually would come back home here and, and
really get, get it going.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
So when you come back to Key West, um, how
did you get back into the radio business? Is that
when you decided to drop the rock and Rick Allen?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Oh, yeah, I, I had let Rick Allen, uh, go
a few years prior to that, but I came back, uh,
in 1997. Well, I actually came back in 1992.
Um I got divorced. I had, I had custody of
my son. So I was a single father and I

(53:07):
wanted to raise my son, Tony here in Key West.
I didn't wanna, I was, it was just me and
him in New York City. He uh and trying to
work and at the time I had a couple of
really good jobs there in the sports industry. I was
doing those high school football games. But then
I got a job at this place called Score Phone. Now,

(53:29):
score phone was prior to the internet that it was a,
it was a phone number that you called and it
had all the latest, uh, you'd have in, in a minute.
Plus they give you, we'd give you all the scores. So,
like the NCAA tournaments going on, you know, you would
constantly be updating that

(53:49):
and, or Sundays in the NFL, you, here's the, here's
the scores, that type of thing which led to another job, uh,
with which I worked, uh, for sports ticker, which was
owned by Dow Jones. And it was a, a sports
news service based in Jersey City, New Jersey. And,

(54:09):
and I got, got the opportunity to work there and,
and that's, it was like, it's just like a huge,
it was a huge news room at the time and
we supplied all the, all the store, we had stringers
at every, every major league game NBA hockey, whatever trades
would happen, it would all go through that and we
would serve as all the different news and sports departments

(54:32):
across the
country. But I, I was II, I just, it was,
it was, it was tough for me as, as a
single parent trying to work that and, and especially when
you're working in, in New York and you gotta, you
gotta work till all the games in California are over.
It's like, man, I just don't want to do this anymore. II,
I wanna go back home and I, and I came

(54:54):
home
and when I came home in 1992 II, I didn't
have a job. I was just like, I'm, I'm just
going back to Key West. I got full custody of
my son, I'm gonna bring Tony down here and we're
just gonna start our lives here. I got a job
at Rick's and Dirty Harry's as, as a, um, as,
as a doorman. But at that exact moment,

(55:18):
the, the crew at, at Rick's had got a TV
show that they were just about to start on the old, uh,
TC I channel five. It was called Sports Talk is on,
on Monday nights. And they asked me to, would you
like to be part of that, of this show? Uh,
Vince Walton was the, the GM at Rick. He said,

(55:39):
I think you, you know, you're a guy in radio sports. You,
you might come out and hang out with us and
I don't know, there was like 10 people on this
show and I had to try to find my way
where I was going to fit in to the show.
And I did and it ran for a, a few
years there. I, and had a lot of fun with that.
I had known Todd Swafford prior, uh, back in the eighties.

(56:02):
But then we reconnected on that show, uh Sports Talk
and, and, and we had talked about me potentially coming
to work for, for Todd. But in those days I was,
I was making quite a bit of money at Rick
and I was having a good time and, you know,
now I was single and, uh, I would get, you know,
I was, you know how that goes, Sean, I was

(56:24):
sewing some oats and having a lot of fun at
that time. And I said, I'm, you know, maybe I,
I like the TV thing. I'll, I'll do that.
But then I had to go back to New York.
I had an opportunity there to go, uh, do a
job for about a year and it was, it was
real good money. And then when I came, when I
came back home, there was another TV station

(56:45):
that was starting, it was an independent station. It was
channel eight. And I, and I don't, I can't, I,
I can't, for the life of me even remember the
call letters. So I came home in 97 they had
hired me to be like the sports director there and
we started another, uh, sports show and then I had
Todd come on
that and, and several other people, unfortunately, it didn't last

(57:08):
very long. But what it did was it reconnected myself
with Todd Swafford. And then Todd hired me over at,
in 1998 with, uh, with, uh, with, uh, now what
was clear channel at the time?
Yeah. And then, and then that's when I, I started

(57:28):
not only working in back, full time, full, full time
in radio, doing sales. So it's funny it goes back
to sales. That's how I got hired, um, and to
go work in the sales department. And then, and then
immediately Todd asked me to be part of the, the
baseball coverage on, uh, WKWF at that time in 1998.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
So when you initially got on, you were just initially
doing baseball with Todd.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Well,
yeah, I was doing sales and in those days we
didn't have con town live or any of any of
that stuff. It was just the only sports that we
were doing that Todd was doing live was the games.
Now
he had put sports radio on the air a few
years prior to that on the old WKWF. And, but he,

(58:20):
Todd and his brother, Timothy Lee were doing the games,
they were doing football and they were doing baseball and
Todd says I'd really like you to come in if
I can get you hired in with Clear Channel.
And then I wanna, I wanna put you on the
baseball broadcast with me and my brother and, and I could,
I could use the help. And I'm like, hey, I'm,
I'm in because I had never done baseball before. I

(58:42):
had done football prior, but I hadn't done, I hadn't
done baseball. And I said, man, baseball is my game.
That's my favorite thing. I, I really wanna, I, I,
I'd love to do that.
So I got hired as a salesman and I was
supposed to sell it and I did and, and, and
then we were doing those games, which then eventually led
to us doing a Monday night football show at the

(59:04):
Casa Marina that was live. And then we were like,
we've got to have a daily talk show as well.
And then we started Cock Town Live in 2001. And, um,
and it's just, you know, it's been on the air
ever since all the games and all the talk shows
and all that stuff. But when I started in 98
we didn't have any live local sports talk shows and, and, and,

(59:29):
and it just kind of developed after a couple of years,
like we need to add more people want more, we
need to do more. And we did,

Speaker 1 (59:37):
yeah, it's a fascinating thing that, that first of all,
let me say that I always did enjoy that. WKW
F-16 100 AM when that first, when that came out,
I was really happy to have that. And when you
think about it, it's like with today's day and age,
I can get whatever I want about sports on my
phone really, except for local coverage. And when you

(59:58):
talk about, like, I know it's different but like you
talk about radio and you talk about newspaper and you
talk about these media outlets. I, I feel it's my
opinion that like the more local coverage you have, the
more engagement you're gonna have because I'm not gonna go
to that local source to find out what's going on
in the world. I'm going to that local source to
find out what's going on here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Right? And I think Sean, that's why radio is still relevant,
especially in a market. Like ours, everything has changed the
way we consume our news or if you're a person
that's online all the time or whether it's through Facebook, Instagram,
whatever that may be and, and on all the different

(01:00:40):
apps that you have on your phone. And if there's
a trade in the NFL, you're getting that information almost instant.
But what works for me and works for us here
is still, yes, I wanna know what's happening locally and
that the only way to really know that is to
tune in to our radio station. If you wanna know
what's ok or where's the lady Kok softball team playing today.

(01:01:03):
Where is this happening? What, what's going on with our
football program? You still have that and that's why it's
still relevant and that's why it still means so much
to so many people.
And I think that's one of the great legacies that
I've been able to, to help
build on from what Todd started is that you're gonna
turn on the radio and you're gonna know that the

(01:01:25):
Conch game is on. You're gonna know either our con
town live is on and, and what's, what's the latest and,
and all that, that to me means the world because
now today, here in 2023 compared to say 1998 today,
it's just expected that it's supposed to, it, that it's

(01:01:46):
there for, for the Conch fans and I love that.
I love that they can tune in and find out
what's happening locally. Yeah, you can get all the Aaron
Rodgers news or whatever, wherever you may go. But what
you want to know what's happening with the Conchs, why,
what happened at the Columbus game? What happened here and there?

(01:02:06):
You're gonna tune into the radio and you're gonna want
to know and that's why it's still relevant.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
I agree. I agree with you. And then like moving forward,
you're doing baseball. When do you guys start doing foot?
When do you start doing football?

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
That, that same year, 1998. Uh, my first full year, uh,
broadcasting was 1998. I joined
Todd in the booth and we started with Conch baseball
and that was a great year to start Sean. I mean,
we won it all that year in 1998. And, uh,
and then, and then that, that, that same year, the

(01:02:40):
following school year, that's the 98 99
uh, football team that I, that was my first football full-time, uh,
doing the Conchs. So, and I've been doing it ever since. Well,
I haven't missed a game in 25 years. Uh,

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
you're the Cal Ripkin of radio broadcasting, buddy. That's, that's fantastic.
But like opening up and going to that 98 year
as someone who never got to experience the postseason.
What was that 98 season like for you? I guess
you had like, Brooks Carey was the coach.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
That is a great question because it, it felt like I,
I was part of it. Um,
yes, Brooks Carey and I was very lucky in my,
my first year of, of doing baseball that when Todd
brought me in that, that Brooks Carey was named the
head coach and, and they, they had a great staff

(01:03:32):
that Brooks Brooks. He was the head coach, Randy Sterling
was the pitching coach
Chris Valdez and Ralphie Sanchez were, uh, the other assistant
coaches and it was just such a great group to be,
be around there was, that was during that whole run in,
in the nineties where we were winning everything and, and

(01:03:54):
Brooksie took over and, and there was a lot of,
I felt, I felt it, I felt the pressure
of providing, uh, a good broadcast. Now, Todd was leading
the way back in those days and I, and I
was his sidekick, uh, and, and Timothy Lee was there
as well and I know there were a few people
that
and, and in, in broadcasting and Sean, you know, that

(01:04:16):
you can't always make everybody happy, but I tried to
do the best that I could because I knew there
was a great responsibility with this and it was just,
it was just so crazy, uh, in those days with
the Conch baseball team and they had that long win
streak and they had won, went to three final fours
in a row. Uh, they almost went back in 97.

(01:04:37):
So that was, there was just, there was so much
focus and so much attention
and, and for me to go do baseball, which is
my favorite sport. I love baseball, but it's different to
broadcast baseball than football. And I learned, uh, so much, uh,
you know, that, that first year on, on how to
do baseball. And, but that team and that run was

(01:05:02):
unlike anything I had ever seen. And it actually changed
how they do the postseason
in, in, in high school sports to where today that
you won't see two teams from the same district play
in the state championship game. And that year, that's what
happened when Key West and Monsignor Pace played in the

(01:05:24):
state championship game, uh, in 98. And that was such
a crazy year because we ended up playing Pace five
times and beat them four times.
The one time we lost to them was in the
district championship game, which meant that we had to go
on the road again. Tho those were the days when

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the runner ups did make it to the state playoffs.
So we were the runners up in the district
and that, that road to get to that final four
was one of the most incredible rides you could imagine.
And it started, uh we took on Russ Milliken, a
great conk and a former head coach at Key West
High School. He was the head coach at Forest Hills

(01:06:09):
up in West Palm where Russ is still the head coach.
Uh to this day, one of my favorite people in
the world and we went up there, we won that
game and then
the next game we had to go to Searing, which
is right there on 27 in the middle of Florida.
And we went there, won that game.
And then in the region championship, we had to go

(01:06:30):
all the way up to Daytona Beach, uh play Daytona Beach,
sea breeze and they had a big stud there. Uh
The kid was going to be a number one draft choice.
Uh in major league baseball. He was also gonna go
play football at West Virginia. The kid's name is ISP.
Me right now, but he was a Mon
and they were really good and we went up there

(01:06:53):
and we won that game. II, I don't know how
many miles we logged, uh, that postseason to get to
Tampa in the final four and then eventually winning it
all and beating pace in our fifth meeting, which they
almost came back and won was one of the most
wildest crazy
rides I have ever been on. And it's funny and

(01:07:14):
I remember after that season because we have most of
those kids coming back and saying to, to Todd and,
and everybody else, man, we're gonna do this again. This
was fun. We got most of these guys back. We're
gonna win another state championship. It doesn't work that way.
It is so hard just to win one going back
to the beginning of our conversation. Uh, and we didn't
win again until 2005. But what a year, what a

(01:07:36):
great first year for me to, to jump in
and winning it all and being part of that and
getting a ring and getting a championship ring for a
kid who never, never played in a playoff game. And
I played football, basketball and baseball in high school. I
never got into the postseason and that meant the world

(01:07:59):
to me. It's like, wow, wow,
I'm part of this, even though I didn't, I didn't,
I didn't make one out or make one hit or
anything like that, but I felt such a part of
it and that was also Sean to what we talked
about earlier, that welcoming spirit that Key West has and
that people appreciate what you do at that first year.

(01:08:21):
I Sydney Mockingbird Kerr who meant the world to me.
He was a conk baseball legend. He, he had my
back that whole first year and, and
helped me and, and, and of course Todd did as
well and it was just, it was a, it was
a run that I look back so fondly and will,
will never forget and enjoyed every second of that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
You know, I got a question about that season when
you take account of that run in the nineties, so
many great players come through. But the, one of all
those players with the most distinguished pro career is Khalil Green.
What were your thoughts on him then when he was playing? Did,
was he a surefire, this guy's automatically going to the majors.

(01:09:07):
Um What were your thoughts about him then during that season?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Yeah, that, that, that's a good question. I, I, he,
I knew he had the talent. Uh, he's the only
guy that's in our illustrious history of conch baseball that
hit 500 in a, in a season and he, and
he did it that year in 1998. Uh, what what, what,
you know, what impressed me so much about him. Uh, was,
he was so cool and calm. You could never, I

(01:09:35):
could never tell any
different inflections if he made it out, he stayed the same.
If he hit a home run, he stayed the same,
he was just level and he was determined to be
a shortstop. That's what he wanted to do. And of course,
that's where he played for us in 1998. And,
and as a team leader, quietly leading that team, I mean,

(01:09:57):
he wasn't a gregarious guy that would, you know, jump
out and, and get in your face and all that.
He just was so even keeled, that's the thing that
I remember about him playing that, that this guy doesn't
get flustered by anything, nothing. Uh And, and, and just a,
a great kid. Just the nicest, sweetest kid that had

(01:10:19):
a lot of talent.
Was he gonna be a surefire major leaguer? I thought
he had a great chance uh to make it. But
when he graduated from high school, you know, Sean, he
only had the one offer to go to Clemson. Now
Brooks Carey was,
you know, our, our head coach at the time, Brooksie
was a legendary Florida State baseball player. He was begging

(01:10:44):
Mike Martin at the time. You got to take this kid,
just bring him in. Well, we don't need him for
a shortstop and, and, and Khalil was
determined to play shortstop and, and he didn't get an
offer from Florida State and he got an offer to
go to Clemson to play, play shortstop. And of course,
Brooksie would call Mike Martin back, uh, that year that,

(01:11:04):
that Khalil was the college baseball player of the year.
He said, should have took him
and, and of course, that led to him being a
first round pick. Now he did something interesting when you
look back at his career that he got drafted by
the Cubs in his, after his junior year there. And
I think it was in Oleta, another conk uh who

(01:11:27):
worked for the Cubs at the time.
Uh They drafted him, Brooks. He said, hey, give him
this amount of money and I'm pretty sure he'll sign.
Uh well, they didn't offer him that as, as, as
I can remember the story. So he decided not to go,
uh where he got drafted his junior year and go
back for his senior year and play now as a

(01:11:49):
college player, I mean, you lose your leverage when you
go back for your senior season because
you know, that's it. You're done wherever you get drafted
and you don't have the ability to, you know, if
you're gonna get drafted to work on what your money
compensation is all, all that. Once you, once you go
back for your senior year, you better make it a
good one. And he went back for his senior year,

(01:12:11):
had one of the greatest years a college baseball player
has ever, ever had. And obviously he was the college
baseball player of the year led Clemson
uh to the college World Series and then he gets
drafted number one by the Padres and we were all
very proud of that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
What a big deal that was in Key West. You
really saw this community, like, really rally around him and
all of a sudden everybody's a Padre fan and everybody
has their Padres jerseys and, and it was just, just,
just a great time, you know, so
that's a big deal, you know, moving through where I
would love to have you on the podcast again, there's

(01:12:47):
so many things we could talk about. So I'm gonna
jump to 2005.
Um, obviously, you know, in a, in a different world,
you know, I was able to, to coach my kids
for a long period of time and be part of
their athletic career. But what was it like for you
in 2005 to, you know, you're part of the team,
you're on the broadcast team, you're traveling, you're talking to everybody.

(01:13:09):
I mean, I can't imagine how special it was for
you to be part of that season where your son
wins a state championship and you're calling all the games.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Yeah, Sean. That was, uh, when I, as I look
back at my career and, and everything that I've done
that was the most special one for me because it
was my son
and part of it too is the fact that, you know,
I didn't, I didn't get to play baseball at us
high school and what my son did and, and my,

(01:13:40):
and Tony was a really good player and, and he
was what, he was the left fielder on that team.
It's really difficult when you're calling your kids games. Like,
if he strikes out, like, why are you swinging at?
Oh my God. You know, because it's your kid and, uh,
and then if he does something good, you know, you

(01:14:00):
don't wanna go too crazy. But I was just, I
was so proud of, of my child and, and what
he was able to accomplish and what he's done in
his life. And so a lot of that was built around, uh,
what he's what he took out of playing baseball like
he
high school, but that year was a fascinating year and,
and I can go back with those, that group of

(01:14:22):
kids when they were going through the Clayton Sterling Complex
and looking at, you know, Chaz Spotswood and, you know,
Clinton stores and Desy Perez and Ezra Josephson. And, and
there's just so many of these, these kids that I
would watch them. I said, man, these guys, these guys
are really good. I mean, there, there's something, there's something
brewing with this group of kids, Darryl Lewis and,

(01:14:44):
and these guys are, are gonna get up there. Iii
I had a feeling when they were all in like 5th,
6th grade. Like this was a, this was a group
that could do it and they ended up doing it
and then, but, and they have my son as a
big part of that team and the left fielder and
to see that success and, and to win that state

(01:15:04):
championship and the celebration in Sarasota, I, I was bawling
Sean II, I was crying, I had a very,
a tough time, uh, with that when they won it
all because you're so proud and you're so happy for
your child. And it was an amazing experience uh that I,
I'm so glad that I was there and was able

(01:15:26):
to do that and, and go on that ride with
my child. It was, it was pretty special now, reversely
the next season in 2006.
Uh we, we, we were in the district uh tournament
and we were playing, we were playing Berlin at Gulliver
and it was Tony's final season his senior year and

(01:15:50):
there was a kid on Berlin that we called him
the Conk killer. Every time he came up, he had
a big hit against us and, and he comes up
in the seventh inning with a runner on second and
they were trailing by a run. I think there was
one out
and this kid hits the ball straight away. Center field.
This game was at um Monsignor pace they were hosting

(01:16:13):
the district tournament that year and Tony's playing center field
and I just watch him go back, go back, go
back and up to the fence and it goes over
and
they win, end of the conch baseball season. End of
my son's playing career at Key West High School and

(01:16:33):
I was almost speechless, um, because I'm calling it on
the radio and I had to really control myself because
I just, the tears were holding back, the tears coming
out my eyes like that's it. It's over. It's just,
and it could end just like that.
And then the next day in the Miami Herald, they

(01:16:53):
had a huge picture on the front, uh, of the paper, uh,
with Tony with his hands on his knees, hat off
his head, standing at the fence. And it was just,
uh one of those, you know, wide world of sports,
pictures of agony. But, uh, yeah, that was, was
so you get this incredible, incredible mountain top. I made it.

(01:17:19):
You won a state championship, never take that away. And
then the next year a walk off home run ends
it and just like that all those years with your
kid out
at, at the Clayton Sterling Complex just working, getting better
and better and better and through the JV seasons and
then he makes sparsity and he wins the state championship

(01:17:39):
and the next year, hey, we got a good club.
We were gonna have a good shot at and then,
and you lose on a walk off home run and
it just ends,
that is hard and try doing that with your kid.
Why you're calling it on the radio? But not an easy,
not an easy moment for me. I,

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
I can't imagine. But that's what going back to the beginning.
That's what makes like the town so special is the
high stakes and, and every, every game is such a
big deal and, and everybody understands like the community understands
the work that everybody's put into it because just like
you said, they started at T ball. They were at 89, 10, 11,

(01:18:18):
12 in the same community in the same town all
working for the common goal. And when you get it,
it's euphoria. But then when it's over, especially matched as
you're never going to put on that Conk uniform. Again,
it's soul crushing. But, but again, you know, you're not
getting that same thing at, at insert Private Dade County
private school.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
No, you know, Sean. And that's a real good point too.
I think when you look at a kid and I
think that it, it's still that way today. A kid
that's growing up and playing, playing baseball here in Key West, it's,
they don't dream about playing for the New York Yankees
or the Miami Marlins or anything. The, the dream is
to play for the cows. That's your, your,

(01:19:00):
your dream. I want to play baseball at Key West
High school. I wanna be part of that long red
and gray line. I wanna be there for those big
moments because if you win, I mean, it's, it's the
greatest thing ever. The feeling is so, so wonderful and, and,
and when we win, we do it as a community

(01:19:21):
because the kids are from here, they go to school here,
they go to hob, they go to Sugarloaf, they go
wherever it sigs B but when they get to the
high school that they've all played with each other for
years and years and, and it's fun to watch them
develop and grow, but it's tough too Sean to get back.

(01:19:41):
It's not easy.
You, you always gotta have a little break here and there. Uh, and,
and you could be the greatest team in the world. But,
you know, it, it, it's one of the harder things
to do is to win a state championship in any sport. Um,
let alone that we have 11 of them. It's, it's,
it's so remarkable. Our history is so amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
So, we talk so much about history today. Let's talk
about present day. What's your take as the voice of
the Conch. You've been watching this Conch baseball team for
so many years. How are they doing this year, in
your opinion?

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Well, I think Sean, I, they're, they're doing fine right
now with the, the thing that they've got going for them. That's,
and it's even hard for me to say because I
think about all the, all the teams I've covered the,
the teams in the past and we've had great pitching before,
but I don't know if we've ever had three guys

(01:20:36):
that could be a number one pitcher on, on our staff.
I mean, we have three
studs, possibly four if we, when we get a chance
to watch Anthony Lara's pitch. When you've got
lucky Barroso Jacob Burnham and Felix Ong as your starting pitchers,

(01:20:57):
you're gonna be good. You're just gonna be good. These
guys are that good. Felix Ong is already committed to,
uh University of Florida. He's just a junior. Lucky Barroso
is going to Indian River. He's in his senior campaign.
Jacob Burnham is
still deciding where he wants to go and he'll, he'll
get a major college scholarship somewhere. And Anthony Lares who's

(01:21:21):
had to come out of the pen a couple of times, uh,
and hasn't had a chance to start yet. He's already
committed to the University of South Florida. He's that good.
So you've got four guys
that are incredible when you have that kind of pitching
and it all goes back the winning titles. I it, it's, it's,
I know it's an old cliche, but it's true pitching

(01:21:42):
in defense, wins, especially in baseball. You've got the pitching
that's more than half the battle to get it done
because you need at least two good starters when you
get to the postseason we've got four,
these guys do their job. If we're gonna be fine,
we just need the offense to start coming around. There's

(01:22:03):
a couple of guys that haven't got, gotten their, their
hitting shoes going yet, but there are other guys that are,
I like this team. I like where they're going
and I think this team's gonna make big noise when
we go to the playoffs this year and they have
a legitimate chance to get back to the final four.
I really believe that. And it's all a and, and

(01:22:24):
the biggest part of it, Sean is that pitching staff,
they're that good and, and, and three of them, three
of those pitchers are juniors. They're all coming back next year.
Only one's graduating. So they're gonna be here another year.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
That's when

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
you got that kind of pitching.
You got a great chance to

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
win. I agree. And I, and you're enjoying it. I'm
enjoying listening to you. Can you tell our listeners all
the places they can hear you?

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Yeah, Sean, uh, of course, uh, you can hear us
on terrestrial radio, uh, in, uh, the Key West market at, uh,
97.7 WAVK. It's a, now that we move to the FM,
uh, dial, it's 100,000 watts station that you get pretty
much for the entire keys. So you can listen to
us there. Uh, you can go online and listen to

(01:23:14):
us at, uh, Theone 97 7 dot com. And the
other cool thing about our stations is we are part
of the iHeart Radio network. So, so you can, you
just have the, the iHeart app or, and also by
the way, the Tunein app as well, you download those
into your phone, you type in, uh,

(01:23:34):
WAVK or the zone 97 7. And it, and you
go right to our radio station, you can take us
wherever you go in the world. It's pretty neat. We've
come a long way from the, the times when Todd
and I would pass a cell phone back and forth
calling a game. Uh, it is, uh, it's, you can and,
and it was before the internet and all that stuff.

(01:23:55):
But today
you can listen to us. You're sitting in Barrow, Alaska,
you could listen to us. It's, it's really, uh, pretty special.
So there's, there's, there's lots of ways that you can, can,
can't consume our coverage.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Well, I know you don't hear it all the time
but you guys are appreciated for the service that you
all provide. A lot of people. Listen, I've been listening
to you guys for years and
keep it up and keep it going and we in marathon,
appreciate Steven Tiny doing football and we got Tiny doing baseball. Now,
I know the upper keys loves all of the support
that it gets. Thank you so much for that and,

(01:24:29):
you know,

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
real quick and we didn't get a chance to get into.
You're coming

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
on again. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
One of the, one of the things that I'm most
proud of is
the general manager of Florida Keys Media because that, that's
my other title. Uh And I run the, the radio
group is in 2014. I had a chance to put
every county I wanted to, that's I, I wanted to
do this. I wanted to have every county football game

(01:24:58):
on the radio. I wanted Marathon to have their own
radio station. I wanted Coral Shores to have their own
radio station
as well. So since 2014, every Key West Conchs, every
marathon Dolphins and every Coral Shores hurricanes football game, whether
it's home or away has been broadcast. And I think

(01:25:19):
for me that's one of the legacies I, I'll be
very proud of that. We are able to bring what
we had done with the, the sports station in Key
West to everybody
and the three different fan bases in our community. And I,
and I couldn't be more proud of that and congratulations

(01:25:40):
to you as well. Uh You know, being named the
head coach at Marathon High School, we're real proud of
you Sean and, and looking forward to covering all your games.
Tiny and Steve will do a great job

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
for you. I, I love those guys and no, we,
we're not out of time because it's a podcast so
we can go forever and ever. I was just what
I wanted to say to you is I would definitely
want to have,
have you on again because there's so many different things
that we can cover in your career and there's so
many other questions that I have. So, don't worry, I
would love for you to come back on and we
can explore these things in the years to come. But

(01:26:12):
as far as, as being football coach, I was really
happy about it because, you know, just to be part
of the history of Monroe County is such a big
deal and there's only three of those positions in the
county and to have one of them and like to
be
in the, in the same, you know, to be in
that same club as, as all those guys, like when

(01:26:32):
I came to the keys looking up to, to be
in that club was, was such a big deal for
me because of the history and, and, and all that stuff.
So I'm just proud to be there and hopefully I
can do all the,
make it, you know, make everybody proud that, that helped
me out along the way, all of the coaches, you know, and,
and all that stuff and I, I don't know, I

(01:26:53):
don't know if you heard or not and I know
we're going deep in the podcast and I remember thinking
about Tony. Tony played for him, you know, just yesterday. Uh,
his old basketball coach Fletch died and, uh, you know,
uh Bob Fletcher and he was, I remember Tony playing basketball,
playing basketball and,
and Fletch was such a great guy. He was an
assistant principal at Key West High School for a year,

(01:27:14):
but he was an accomplished principal in Troy, um Michigan.
And they actually named the mascot a after him because
they were the Trojans and just feeling for him and
just thinking about all the coaches and his family, but
all the coaches that taught me stuff along the way.
And I'm sure in broadcasting, you had mentors that taught

(01:27:34):
you stuff along the way and, and you should, you
shouldn't forget those people and,
and all that stuff. And I'm just thinking of him today,
but I, I hate to end the podcast on a,
on a sour note on a down note, but that
just hit me, you know, and you were, and

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
that's affecting a lot of people here and, uh, you're,
you're right and you know what that's, but that goes
to what, what a coach is, right? Uh, the, the
impact that a coach has on a young person's life.
It is there forever. I told you, Chuck Freeman, you know,
he was my favorite co I loved playing for Chuck

(01:28:08):
and I, I just wanted to make him proud and
because he believed in me and, and like your kids are,
will be leaving you and, and, and there is a
special bond between a player and a coach that
II, I wish everybody could have that, but not everybody
plays ball and all that and sometimes coaching experiences aren't good.

(01:28:29):
But for the most part, there is a mentor, there
is somebody that you want, you'll go through a brick
wall for and they'll be part of your life forever.
And I know that's gonna happen with you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Thank you. I appreciate it. Well, I definitely want to
have you on again. We have so many questions, but
I know you have other places to go and other,
other games

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
too, Sean. What you're doing with these podcasts
with, uh with the Keys Weekly is remarkable. I don't
even know if you know how many people are just
enjoying this. What you're doing is, is, is, is really great.
You're recording uh sports history here in the Keys with
the people that made it in this nice long format
that you're doing and it's really special and I'm, I'm hell,

(01:29:10):
I'm proud as hell of what you're doing here. And
uh you got, you got to keep this up because
no one else is doing anything like
like this. And it's, it's really great Sean doing a
great job. My man, I hope you'll have time when
football season. Iii I,

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
I plan on doing a lot in the summer, but
I am gonna have time and I just want to
say just like taking it back from the very beginning.
You were the reason for this, with that long form
thing with Brooks. I really loved it. And thanks for
everything that you've brought to radio and the Keys and,
and thanks for coming on today. I appreciate

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
it, Sean. It was my absolute pleasure. Thank you, buddy.
I appreciate

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
it. Have a great day.
Thank you guys for listening to the Keys Weekly Sports
app podcast with Coach mcdonald. I hope you guys enjoyed
that about Rick Lopez. I know that I did. It's fascinating.
You know, you hear everybody's origin story and every everybody
how they came to the place they're at today and
there's always a story behind it. So I hope you

(01:30:05):
guys enjoy it. Good luck to all the teams playing
this week. And I hope you guys check out the
podcast next week.

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