November 12, 2025 • 10 mins
Life University faculty, senior D.C. interns and global partners completed a historic Chiropractic Awareness Mission Trip to Eldoret, Kenya in July 2025. This impactful visit marks the next step in a growing partnership with the University of Eldoret, where plans are underway to launch East Africa’s first-ever chiropractic degree program. D.C. students John Lehman and William Brown discuss their experiences as part of this dynamic team.
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S1 (00:30):
Hi guys. Welcome back to another episode of Living Life.
I Love You and we're continuing our series on the amazing,
beautiful mission trip of Kenya. You guys have heard about William.
You guys have heard a little bit about John. And
now we just want to talk with you together about
your experience as a team. Um, so welcome back in.
How was it? Tell me, how was it as a
team together, that mission trip to Kenya?
S2 (00:52):
Well, the team, uh, me and John, I would say
we spent the most time together as a team. We
were put into a few positions where it required me
and him to work just directly together with this mission trip.
What we noticed was there were a lot more women involved.
So it was four, four gals, four four men, four women.
(01:13):
And at a certain point in time, the other two guys,
their specialty was more with they had more women drawn
to their technique. Building on having each other's back is
is one thing, because we were really putting under a
lot of pressure to like, deliver to the men, but
me and John would look at each other and like,
(01:33):
all right, we got this, we got this. He came
up with a saying for us, and I mean, I'll
let him.
S1 (01:39):
What saying John.
S3 (01:40):
Uh, I think we were in the Nairobi airport and
somebody was stating their concerns about flights or living conditions
or whatever. And I just said, just remember Bruce Lee
and everybody's like, what are you talking about? He said,
(02:01):
be like water. Yeah, If it's in the cup, it's
the cup. If it's in a vase, it's the vase.
If it's if it's whatever, it's whatever. Yeah. So I
was like, just be like water.
S1 (02:16):
That's a beautiful motto. And it's a beautiful mindset to
keep and maintain, especially when you guys are going to
as a pilot group. Right. And we don't we don't
really know what we're walking into, but we know that
we're there to serve. That's the one thing you guys
knew for sure is that you're there to serve, right? So, John,
tell me a little bit about your experience serving most
of the men and what that meant to you.
S3 (02:36):
Um, the most difficult part, I think anybody will tell
you is the, um, the communication.
S1 (02:42):
Um.
S3 (02:43):
They did understand and speak English extremely well, but when
like for Thompson, if you're trying to tell them to
keep their legs straight, lift their leg as high as
you can, don't bend the knee. It it took half
of the time of the whole adjustment just to explain
and get them to understand that.
S4 (03:03):
Um, yeah.
S1 (03:04):
And I love in practice you. When we first have
that first brand new patient that's never seen chiropractic, you
get to start training them. And usually by visit 3
or 4 they're like, I got it. I know what
to do. Let me put my leg here and put
this and do that and on my side and whatnot.
And every once in a while they're like, oh, it's
the other. It's the other leg. I knew I knew this, right?
(03:25):
But definitely that's such a such an important piece also
for you to start training as a student, as an experienced,
to have that early on to know, okay, how much
can I break this down to converse? I always tell
the students, let's break it down to talk to five
year olds. Ten year olds, right? Because we're so used
to talking about our amygdala and our frontal lobe and
(03:45):
our precentral cortex, and patients are like, what? Right. So
tell me a little bit about that shift in energy.
When did you feel the shift in energy from being
that anxious of the team of like, I don't know,
to okay, I'm here to serve and I know that
I'm water and I know that I'm here to just give.
S3 (04:06):
After the first patient every day.
S4 (04:08):
Yeah.
S1 (04:09):
What was the experience for you like?
S3 (04:11):
Well, it was just like, um, obviously being a veteran,
I'd been to a lot of places. It was awesome. Um.
My biggest concern was obviously, are we going to be
adjusting outdoors or indoors? Um, and indoors was the best memory,
(04:32):
I think was the second day when we were inside.
We were under a glass ceiling and it absolutely poured
for like ten minutes. It was just amazing hearing the
music of rain while we're adjusting. It was awesome.
S4 (04:49):
Yeah. Love that. What about for you, William?
S2 (04:52):
John will be adjusting the guys, and it would be
a guy at the guy. And then looking up and
just me and John and I would be, like, looking
for help at one point in time. And then it
just came to me like, all right, remember the water. Remember,
be water, be water. And it would just like, just
bring me back to to a place of like, I'm
here for this week. Just do as much as I can,
(05:14):
get as much experience as I can, deliver as much
healing as I can. Because, um, next week I'll be
back in the States and this will be over. And
it was just easier to to just always remember that
mantra that John said to all of us, just be water,
just be water. I kept replaying it in my head, um,
to not, um, lose what's on the table with my
(05:34):
own personal, um, the way I felt because it was
a it was a lot, but it was more than.
Now that I look back on it, I am so
blessed to be able to to, like, touch that many
people and try to deliver that much healing. Well, actually deliver,
not try. I actually did it. Yeah. Um, we actually
showed up for ourselves, not only for those people, because
(05:55):
it took a lot for us to, um, to to
look at each other and say, all right, um, you
are the two guys. You go, you go help the
the ladies. We'll take care of what we what we'll do.
And just knowing that John with his his military experience,
like I couldn't, I couldn't let him down like that
was on my mind. Like to be a good be
(06:16):
a good soldier with him.
S1 (06:18):
And be a support system and have someone to lean on.
That's a beautiful thing. What a beautiful experience.
S2 (06:23):
We, um, we bonded real, really, really fast, though, because
of the situation that we were in. And then like, um,
we seen so much beautiful things together, like, even though this, um,
they say that this is a third world country, but
we seen the most beautiful places. We ate the most
beautiful food like you would. You could not mistake that
(06:45):
for being a third world country. That is an amazing place. And, um,
it helped build the bond. Like to see amazing views
and see good food. We had great conversations, just like
we would be here in the States if you would have.
S3 (06:58):
We had an amazing support team, Kenyan support team.
S1 (07:01):
Um, talk about those who showed.
S3 (07:04):
Up like the driver.
S1 (07:06):
Yeah.
S3 (07:07):
Um, Eric, he showed up. He was always there. And, uh,
a bunch of other people, there was a gal that
showed up from the Canyon CCE. She was awesome. She
also decided to be my patient while I was there,
which was like totally fantastic. So, um.
S2 (07:23):
Had a constant team of people.
S3 (07:24):
They were always there for us if we needed anything.
I mean, we had it, um, we couldn't have done
it without them because it was so amazing. Even the
chancellor or the president of University of Eldoret, he was
he was amazing. He supported us in every way.
S1 (07:40):
Um.
S3 (07:41):
And actually, my greatest memory of that trip was that
he had requested me personally to adjust him before he left.
He did. And just a few minutes beforehand, Doctor Scott
had said, just remember, it's just a spine. And I
was like, okay, all right. I got it.
S1 (08:00):
Beyond all the hats that the people wear before they
and after they lay on your table. It's a nervous
system and a spine.
S2 (08:09):
And not only that, we had, So we were. We were, um,
we went to different hospitals. They they wanted chiropractic inside
of their hospitals. So with me and John, um, adjusting
the guys, we had a lot of heads of hospitals
and heads of this department, every department in the hospital
wanting to understand what chiropractic was.
S1 (08:30):
I love that. What a beautiful experience. I love that
that these bonds that you guys build on these very
intimate situations and spaces, a lot of times are those
bonds that are going to last forever. So that's amazing
that you guys found each other through this, through this space.
And I'm really happy, really proud. I know you guys,
both of you individually, but to see you now as
(08:51):
a team, I can see the cohesiveness and I can
see that okay, this works just rhythmically. Almost. Yeah. So
what a beautiful experience that you were both hand-chosen to
serve these people and choosing each other to just lean
on each other. Wow. Thank you, thank you, thank you
for showing up the way that you guys show up
(09:11):
every single day.
S3 (09:13):
And I can say honestly, and I did say it
to them a couple times, I said I couldn't have
found I couldn't have chosen better teammates for this trip
if I had the opportunity.
S1 (09:23):
Um.
S3 (09:24):
Because it was pretty honest. It was pretty awesome and
and humbling to know that they chose the eight of
us out of everybody who applied.
S1 (09:33):
Yeah.
S3 (09:34):
I was like.
S1 (09:35):
I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you.
Thank you so much, guys, for your time. Thank you
for your service. Thank you for showing up and giving
and loving and doing and serving every single day without
the expectation of anything in return. And I hope that
this experience continues to shape your the next steps in
your journey to becoming my colleague and a chiropractor. So
I'm so excited for both of you. Yes, thank you
(09:58):
so much. And we'll see you guys on the next
episode of Living Life Alive. You.
Hi guys. Welcome back to another episode of Living Life.
I Love You and we're continuing our series on the amazing,
beautiful mission trip of Kenya. You guys have heard about William.
You guys have heard a little bit about John. And
now we just want to talk with you together about
your experience as a team. Um, so welcome back in.
How was it? Tell me, how was it as a
team together, that mission trip to Kenya?
S2 (00:52):
Well, the team, uh, me and John, I would say
we spent the most time together as a team. We
were put into a few positions where it required me
and him to work just directly together with this mission trip.
What we noticed was there were a lot more women involved.
So it was four, four gals, four four men, four women.
(01:13):
And at a certain point in time, the other two guys,
their specialty was more with they had more women drawn
to their technique. Building on having each other's back is
is one thing, because we were really putting under a
lot of pressure to like, deliver to the men, but
me and John would look at each other and like,
(01:33):
all right, we got this, we got this. He came
up with a saying for us, and I mean, I'll
let him.
S1 (01:39):
What saying John.
S3 (01:40):
Uh, I think we were in the Nairobi airport and
somebody was stating their concerns about flights or living conditions
or whatever. And I just said, just remember Bruce Lee
and everybody's like, what are you talking about? He said,
(02:01):
be like water. Yeah, If it's in the cup, it's
the cup. If it's in a vase, it's the vase.
If it's if it's whatever, it's whatever. Yeah. So I
was like, just be like water.
S1 (02:16):
That's a beautiful motto. And it's a beautiful mindset to
keep and maintain, especially when you guys are going to
as a pilot group. Right. And we don't we don't
really know what we're walking into, but we know that
we're there to serve. That's the one thing you guys
knew for sure is that you're there to serve, right? So, John,
tell me a little bit about your experience serving most
of the men and what that meant to you.
S3 (02:36):
Um, the most difficult part, I think anybody will tell
you is the, um, the communication.
S1 (02:42):
Um.
S3 (02:43):
They did understand and speak English extremely well, but when
like for Thompson, if you're trying to tell them to
keep their legs straight, lift their leg as high as
you can, don't bend the knee. It it took half
of the time of the whole adjustment just to explain
and get them to understand that.
S4 (03:03):
Um, yeah.
S1 (03:04):
And I love in practice you. When we first have
that first brand new patient that's never seen chiropractic, you
get to start training them. And usually by visit 3
or 4 they're like, I got it. I know what
to do. Let me put my leg here and put
this and do that and on my side and whatnot.
And every once in a while they're like, oh, it's
the other. It's the other leg. I knew I knew this, right?
(03:25):
But definitely that's such a such an important piece also
for you to start training as a student, as an experienced,
to have that early on to know, okay, how much
can I break this down to converse? I always tell
the students, let's break it down to talk to five
year olds. Ten year olds, right? Because we're so used
to talking about our amygdala and our frontal lobe and
(03:45):
our precentral cortex, and patients are like, what? Right. So
tell me a little bit about that shift in energy.
When did you feel the shift in energy from being
that anxious of the team of like, I don't know,
to okay, I'm here to serve and I know that
I'm water and I know that I'm here to just give.
S3 (04:06):
After the first patient every day.
S4 (04:08):
Yeah.
S1 (04:09):
What was the experience for you like?
S3 (04:11):
Well, it was just like, um, obviously being a veteran,
I'd been to a lot of places. It was awesome. Um.
My biggest concern was obviously, are we going to be
adjusting outdoors or indoors? Um, and indoors was the best memory,
(04:32):
I think was the second day when we were inside.
We were under a glass ceiling and it absolutely poured
for like ten minutes. It was just amazing hearing the
music of rain while we're adjusting. It was awesome.
S4 (04:49):
Yeah. Love that. What about for you, William?
S2 (04:52):
John will be adjusting the guys, and it would be
a guy at the guy. And then looking up and
just me and John and I would be, like, looking
for help at one point in time. And then it
just came to me like, all right, remember the water. Remember,
be water, be water. And it would just like, just
bring me back to to a place of like, I'm
here for this week. Just do as much as I can,
(05:14):
get as much experience as I can, deliver as much
healing as I can. Because, um, next week I'll be
back in the States and this will be over. And
it was just easier to to just always remember that
mantra that John said to all of us, just be water,
just be water. I kept replaying it in my head, um,
to not, um, lose what's on the table with my
(05:34):
own personal, um, the way I felt because it was
a it was a lot, but it was more than.
Now that I look back on it, I am so
blessed to be able to to, like, touch that many
people and try to deliver that much healing. Well, actually deliver,
not try. I actually did it. Yeah. Um, we actually
showed up for ourselves, not only for those people, because
(05:55):
it took a lot for us to, um, to to
look at each other and say, all right, um, you
are the two guys. You go, you go help the
the ladies. We'll take care of what we what we'll do.
And just knowing that John with his his military experience,
like I couldn't, I couldn't let him down like that
was on my mind. Like to be a good be
(06:16):
a good soldier with him.
S1 (06:18):
And be a support system and have someone to lean on.
That's a beautiful thing. What a beautiful experience.
S2 (06:23):
We, um, we bonded real, really, really fast, though, because
of the situation that we were in. And then like, um,
we seen so much beautiful things together, like, even though this, um,
they say that this is a third world country, but
we seen the most beautiful places. We ate the most
beautiful food like you would. You could not mistake that
(06:45):
for being a third world country. That is an amazing place. And, um,
it helped build the bond. Like to see amazing views
and see good food. We had great conversations, just like
we would be here in the States if you would have.
S3 (06:58):
We had an amazing support team, Kenyan support team.
S1 (07:01):
Um, talk about those who showed.
S3 (07:04):
Up like the driver.
S1 (07:06):
Yeah.
S3 (07:07):
Um, Eric, he showed up. He was always there. And, uh,
a bunch of other people, there was a gal that
showed up from the Canyon CCE. She was awesome. She
also decided to be my patient while I was there,
which was like totally fantastic. So, um.
S2 (07:23):
Had a constant team of people.
S3 (07:24):
They were always there for us if we needed anything.
I mean, we had it, um, we couldn't have done
it without them because it was so amazing. Even the
chancellor or the president of University of Eldoret, he was
he was amazing. He supported us in every way.
S1 (07:40):
Um.
S3 (07:41):
And actually, my greatest memory of that trip was that
he had requested me personally to adjust him before he left.
He did. And just a few minutes beforehand, Doctor Scott
had said, just remember, it's just a spine. And I
was like, okay, all right. I got it.
S1 (08:00):
Beyond all the hats that the people wear before they
and after they lay on your table. It's a nervous
system and a spine.
S2 (08:09):
And not only that, we had, So we were. We were, um,
we went to different hospitals. They they wanted chiropractic inside
of their hospitals. So with me and John, um, adjusting
the guys, we had a lot of heads of hospitals
and heads of this department, every department in the hospital
wanting to understand what chiropractic was.
S1 (08:30):
I love that. What a beautiful experience. I love that
that these bonds that you guys build on these very
intimate situations and spaces, a lot of times are those
bonds that are going to last forever. So that's amazing
that you guys found each other through this, through this space.
And I'm really happy, really proud. I know you guys,
both of you individually, but to see you now as
(08:51):
a team, I can see the cohesiveness and I can
see that okay, this works just rhythmically. Almost. Yeah. So
what a beautiful experience that you were both hand-chosen to
serve these people and choosing each other to just lean
on each other. Wow. Thank you, thank you, thank you
for showing up the way that you guys show up
(09:11):
every single day.
S3 (09:13):
And I can say honestly, and I did say it
to them a couple times, I said I couldn't have
found I couldn't have chosen better teammates for this trip
if I had the opportunity.
S1 (09:23):
Um.
S3 (09:24):
Because it was pretty honest. It was pretty awesome and
and humbling to know that they chose the eight of
us out of everybody who applied.
S1 (09:33):
Yeah.
S3 (09:34):
I was like.
S1 (09:35):
I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you.
Thank you so much, guys, for your time. Thank you
for your service. Thank you for showing up and giving
and loving and doing and serving every single day without
the expectation of anything in return. And I hope that
this experience continues to shape your the next steps in
your journey to becoming my colleague and a chiropractor. So
I'm so excited for both of you. Yes, thank you
(09:58):
so much. And we'll see you guys on the next
episode of Living Life Alive. You.
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