June 24, 2024 • 17 mins
Like many chiropractic students, Dr. Drew Rubin had a particular speciality in mind when he first enrolled as a Life University D.C. student. He originally wanted to become a sports chiropractor. And though that is a compelling field, through his program Pediatrics ended up turning his head and he hasn't looked back. Today he owns and operates a pediatric and prenatally focused practice in Marietta, Georgia. He is 1 of 5 Board-Certified Diplomates in Pediatric Chiropractic in the state (DACCP). He and his wife Dr. Lisa Rubin are also members of the Life U faculty, positively molding the minds of the next generation of chiropractors. He encourages students to be open-minded and explore different facets of chiropractic while in school. This episode also explores the fascinating ways in which he has seen children benefit from chiropractic care.
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S1 (00:31):
All right, let's do this. Hi, guys. Welcome to another
episode of Living Life A Life View. I am your host,
Doctor Veronica Garcia. And today I am joined by an
essential member of life University community and impactful member of
Life University Community. And honestly, just a shaker and a
and a thriver throughout. Doctor drew Rubin. Hi. Welcome. Hi.
S2 (00:51):
Welcome. So I'm so excited to be here. This is
amazing and amazing that you're doing this. Like I said
I'm so thrilled.
S1 (00:59):
Thank you. Thank you. I'm really excited to have the
opportunity to have this conversation with you and shining light
and everything that you are as a chiropractor and the
impact that you've had at the university, because I think
people need to know. So talk to me, doctor Rubin,
when did you start it at Life University in your involvement?
(01:19):
Since way before what may.
S2 (01:21):
I graduated in 1989, and then, uh, followed my wife
up as she was getting her PhD in psychology. Um,
so we went to Jersey and then around 2000 or so, uh,
I got a phone call on a Friday night, um, uh,
from the person, the doctor who was teaching the pediatric
(01:41):
class saying, um, I'm retiring. Can you come and teach pediatrics?
And just I just want you to imagine, like a
waiting room full of people and kids and stuff. And
I'm sitting there on the phone, and this was before
they had cordless. So this is with the wires and stuff.
And I'm sitting there like this going, uh, can I
call you back and talk to my wife first? Um, and,
(02:01):
you know, we said yes, of course. And, uh, came
down in 2001. So it's been a crazy ride ever since. Wow. Yeah.
S1 (02:09):
How amazing. So you've been a pediatric chiropractor since the
very beginning?
S2 (02:14):
Almost. Uh, the Larry Webster was my teacher. Yeah. Uh,
who was the founder of the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association? Uh,
and we just had our gathering over the weekend, which
was amazing. Um, and, uh, he and I kept in
touch after we graduated, I graduated, I was actually going
into sports, so I actually got my certification in sports
(02:36):
two years after I graduated, because I'm a hockey player
and I wanted to be a hockey chiropractor. Gotcha. But
and this is nothing against anybody who likes sports. Um, but, um,
I found that athletes were, like, smelly and demanding.
S1 (02:53):
What can I relate?
S3 (02:54):
Yeah.
S2 (02:55):
So, uh, I was not as satisfied as I thought
I was going to be as I was making this happen. Yeah.
And Doctor Webster and I had kept in touch, and
I saw him at a seminar, uh, and he said, drew, um,
this sports thing. Not for you. Um, autism. And this
is around 93, 94, 95, uh, when autism was really
(03:16):
just like, it's just just starting to have an uptick.
And I'm like, autism, like, you mentioned that in class. Like,
once he said, drew, I'm telling you, autism, start studying it.
It's going to be big. And I'm so glad that
I took his advice because that like that little couple
of sentence interchange that we had, you know, together changed
(03:38):
the direction of my career. Wow. So after that, I started,
I kind of ditched all the sports stuff and started
going towards pediatrics. And it's been like just crazy ever since.
S1 (03:48):
Oh my goodness. So where where do you where do
you even like start if you have a passion for
pediatric chiropractic? Well, let's backtrack. Actually, um, for those who
don't know what pediatric chiropractic is or means or looks like,
what is what, what does that experience look like for
an average child that goes into an office with parents?
S2 (04:07):
So, I mean, any chiropractor is trained at any accredited CCE,
you know, chiropractic school, how to take care of kids
on a very basic level, like a basic minimum level.
But if you really want to learn how to take
care of kids, you've got to get certification after you graduate. Uh,
and certainly Life University has three electives, uh, pediatric electives.
(04:28):
So you should take those two. But besides, if you're
not a Life University student, um, there's the icpa, the
International Chiropractic Pediatric Association, there's other organizations. You've got to
get extra training. Because kids today especially, there's so much
stuff going on with these kiddos that the cursory courses
that you get are good for, like, your average kiddo,
(04:50):
but they're not good for the the special cases that
we're going to be end up seeing.
S1 (04:55):
And you mentioned also it kind of started with autism.
Talk to me about that relationship and how can chiropractic
impact that life.
S2 (05:03):
Yeah. So, uh, it is astonishing. Um, you know, when I,
I remember when I first started taking care of kids
with autism, after Webster's admonishment, um, I really didn't know
what to do because they don't. Their nervous systems aren't
like our nerve systems. They don't respond the way ours respond.
They are either super sensitive or under sensitive. So you've
(05:27):
got to learn how to approach that. And there's got
to be you can't. Well, you could, but it is
better for you, as Webster taught me to do more
like tonal bass work and more gentle work, and kind
of approach the nerve system the same way you would approach,
like any sort of difficult situation. You got to kind
of really study it. And like, I look at the
(05:50):
nerve system like a butterfly, like you don't want to
crush that butterfly. You want to hold it nice and
gently until you figure it out. So here's just a
case of two cases in point. So mama brings a
very difficult case last week to me on the spectrum.
At three years old, minimally speaking, you know, screaming, crying
like I walked in the door and he's just, ah,
(06:11):
just freaking out, freaking out. And it took us like
several tries to, like we would go in and do
some things, get out, go into always making sure he's
calming down. I gave him some food. I said, here,
have an apple. Food always helps. So he's finally calmed
down and then the next visit was his first adjustment
ever in his whole life. The mom did very gentle
(06:32):
tonal work on him and he was standing. He wasn't.
This is not traditional adjustments. So you're not lying down
on a bench. He was standing next to his mom. Um,
and the mom texted me later on said he said
his first independent words. When we got home, he said,
take a bath. When they opened the door to go
in the house. And it's the first time he's ever
(06:52):
made a sentence other than like these random words once
in a while, right?
S1 (06:56):
It's got so many goosebumps.
S2 (06:57):
It's just crazy. It's crazy. And then last night, there's
another example, kiddo. Another three year old, minimally speaking kiddo.
He's crying and screaming, whatever. And I told the parent,
I said, just take him for a walk. And because
he wasn't calming down and even food wasn't helping, take
him for a walk and then bring it back in.
So I feel like my understanding that I've learned over
(07:18):
the years with kids on the spectrum showed me he
wasn't ready. His little brain and body, even though he
couldn't say I'm not ready, knew that they took a walk.
They came back in. He was a lot calmer, and
he went up to me and he sat on my
lap and he gave me a hug.
S1 (07:34):
Oh my goodness.
S2 (07:34):
Which he's never done with anybody else except for his
mom or dad. And it just sat there and went
like this because his, his little brain, he was going like, you,
you got me like you understood what I needed. You're
good with that. And now you can do what you want.
And that's like, that's the the amount of effort it's
taken for for me to become like, I'm. I speak
(07:56):
their language, I speak autism, I like saying, you know,
because every the the Spanish and French and German, all
these different languages aside from English, but there's also the
language of autism. But the difference with them is that
every kid's got their own language. So you have to
learn every kid's special language.
S1 (08:12):
Yeah. To continually adapt, to have to make that connection. Right.
That's beautiful. I'm just in awe right now. It's so beautiful,
I love it. Um. You are. I understand one of
the five diplomat holding chiropractor pediatric chiropractors. What does that
mean and what does that entail and how does someone
(08:33):
get prepared for that?
S2 (08:34):
So, uh, in the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association, Ispa, there
are multiple levels. Yeah. Um, the initial level is Webster certification,
which is just one 12 hour class. Then there's the
new perinatal certification, which I think is like 8 or
9 classes that mostly surround, uh, pregnancy and infancy. And
(08:57):
then there's the full certification, which is something like 15
plus classes, uh, postgraduate. Um, and then there's the diplomate,
which is another like after you get certified, another like
300 or something hours worth of classes and a bunch
of other projects and stuff. Um, so, uh, for me
(09:18):
it was like, uh, like Webster was like the ultimate diplomat.
So I have to know what he knows. And but
the amazing thing I found Doctor Veronica is over the
years is the more I know the more I don't know,
and the more the more things I figure out, the
more I have to figure out. So it's a constant,
never ending learning process. I'm always running, running, running, you know,
(09:40):
through this. And I to me, I hope any student
or recent grad who's listening to this realizes that you
don't just go to your full C at the end
of the year and get your 20 things, and that's it.
You got to keep on learning. Keep on learning.
S1 (09:54):
Amen, amen.
S3 (09:55):
Amen, Hallelujah, hallelujah.
S1 (09:58):
And I and I only like clap that and snap
to that because it I thought I thought I was like, wait,
why is this that the one patient with one specific
thing took me to through this rabbit hole of information
that now I have more questions, that I need more answers,
and I keep getting classes and I keep I'm like,
I just needed I need to know to get these
answers right. And quite honestly, a lot of the times
(10:20):
when we have a lot of those conversations with with
patients that come and ask things about neurology or things
about performance enhancement through the way that I practice, um,
I'm like, well, it's not a simple it's not a
simple answer. Let's where do we start? Right. Yes, I
can I can break it down into simple two sentences.
But truly, do you want to know the real answer,
(10:40):
or do you want to know just the what you're
going to Google and find, right, right, right. And it's
really beautiful that there are resources such as like the
Webster and Icpa organization, having created all these certifications, but
the diplomat so that chiropractors that are interested in pediatric
can actually continue evolving and continue making getting questions and
(11:03):
getting answers, getting questions and getting answers and getting deeper
and deeper and deeper into the research and the development
of children and the development of the nervous system and
the overall health and wellness and connectivity and interconnections between, um, chiropractors,
but also between parents and children's and healthcare and children's. Yeah,
and everything in between.
S2 (11:22):
Yeah. It's crazy. And to me, the beautiful thing is
that this chiropractic offers so many different avenues. So I'm.
Also involved with Doctor Melillo's work, you know, with childhood
neurodevelopmental disorders, have certified in his stuff. And I just
can't I can't stop. I'm like, I just need more,
I need more, and it's not I'm not doing it
(11:42):
for me. I'm doing it for the kids. Yeah. Because
the more I learned and can apply that when that
one little kid comes in and he's got some kind
of crazy issue going on, I've learned something that can
help him or her. Uh, and that to me is
so exciting to me, to have like, these resources is
just super cool. So never, never, ever stop learning.
S1 (12:05):
Mind blowing, I love it. Um, doctor Rubin, you've been
at Life University for 23 years. Three years? Yeah, almost.
Almost half the time of what the university has been open.
We are celebrating the 50th year of life. University. Yes.
We are. Um, talk to me about what you've seen
in this 23 years that you've been here, from the
(12:27):
moment that you started that growth. But also where you
would love to, like, be celebrated for the 50th year. Um.
S3 (12:34):
Go ahead. Yeah.
S2 (12:35):
So, you know, when I was here in the 80s,
it was like the, the heyday of that time. So
there was my classes were giant, you know, classes. Uh, and, um,
when I came down here in 2001, uh, 2002 is
when everything kind of happened with the university. So it
was very interesting to to see the university kind of
(12:58):
morph and change. And then Doctor Rickman, thank God, came
on board and just transformed it back up into his heyday,
you know, status again. So my, my hope is that
we keep on like to me, philosophy is everything. Yeah, right.
What separates what I do from everybody else is our
chiropractic philosophy. And, uh, I can hope that we keep
(13:23):
on being the, the the the the center for chiropractic,
the center for philosophy, the center for vitalism, the center
for all the things that we stood for. Um, that
Doctor Sid stood for. That doctor Rickman stood for that
doctor Scott stands for. I hope we can keep on
taking this into the future. Yeah. And also to realize that,
(13:44):
and this is just my own opinion, that the Veronica
that I really feel that specialization is critical in our
chiropractic today. I find the most successful chiropractors are the
most specialized. And it doesn't have to be pediatrics. It
could be sports, you know, it could be, you know, radiology,
whatever it is, geriatrics. There's so many different specializations, and
(14:07):
I really appreciate the life. University has so many electives
to allow that specialization spark to occur as a student.
So you've got kids who are super, you know, interested
in pediatrics or super interested in sports or whatever it
is that they want. And you can do it here. Yeah. Uh,
and that to me, like between philosophy and specialization, those
two things I think are critical. And I hope in 50,
(14:30):
the 50th, the 100th anniversary, we can see that like
even blowing out more. Amen.
S1 (14:36):
I love that, I love that. And and before we
close out, I have to say thank you. Thank you
for your impact in chiropractic and children. But thank you
for your impact in my career and my development as
a chiropractor. Um, one of the very most like, beautiful
things that I remember in my career here is that
I think you're the only professor that brought a green
book to classroom, and you were the only professor that
(14:59):
brought philosophy into every single day that we sat in
any of the classes that we took with you. And
that spoke volumes. And as a very philosophy driven chiropractor,
now I can I look back and I tell people
I'm like, you know, Doctor Drew very seriously in the
midst of the chaos and the and the going and
(15:20):
the classes, just to have a class and a professor
that grounds you back into the roots of the profession,
it's really beautiful. Thank you. So thank you for the
work that you do. Thank you. Thank you for your inspiration.
I hope that we get to continue working together and
seeing each other and just living a world of chiropractic
and sharing the message, and I'm really excited for the
(15:40):
generations that are still getting to learn from you, and
all those that are still waiting to learn from you.
S2 (15:45):
Well, it's been an honor and a privilege, you know,
to think that I'm, uh, in Doctor Webster's seat right now. Like, wow,
like that just gives me, like, goosebumps, you know, that
the class I'm teaching is the class he taught me.
So it just it it gives me this bubble of,
of thankfulness and, and gratitude for because chiropractic gave me everything.
(16:10):
You know, I was an asthmatic kid. So my first
adjustment was when I was 20 and within a short
period of time that was practically gone. And like so
so I think like how full circle this has become.
And I thank chiropractic and Life University for for just
being here and being the. We're the force. Like, that's
(16:31):
why I look at, you know, you said impact I think.
But Life University is the force that can change chiropractic
and keep chiropractic. Chiropractic. Amen. Yeah. Yeah.
S1 (16:41):
Chiropractic. And with that, thank you so much. I really
appreciate you. Thank you for spending a little bit of
your really busy schedule with us. Thank you for inspiring.
Thank you for being. Thank you for growing. Thank you
for evolving. Thank you for adapting and being here. We appreciate.
S3 (16:54):
You.
S2 (16:54):
My pleasure. It was great being here.
S1 (16:56):
And we'll see you guys on the next episode of
Living Life Alive. You have a beautiful rest of your day.
Bye bye.
All right, let's do this. Hi, guys. Welcome to another
episode of Living Life A Life View. I am your host,
Doctor Veronica Garcia. And today I am joined by an
essential member of life University community and impactful member of
Life University Community. And honestly, just a shaker and a
and a thriver throughout. Doctor drew Rubin. Hi. Welcome. Hi.
S2 (00:51):
Welcome. So I'm so excited to be here. This is
amazing and amazing that you're doing this. Like I said
I'm so thrilled.
S1 (00:59):
Thank you. Thank you. I'm really excited to have the
opportunity to have this conversation with you and shining light
and everything that you are as a chiropractor and the
impact that you've had at the university, because I think
people need to know. So talk to me, doctor Rubin,
when did you start it at Life University in your involvement?
(01:19):
Since way before what may.
S2 (01:21):
I graduated in 1989, and then, uh, followed my wife
up as she was getting her PhD in psychology. Um,
so we went to Jersey and then around 2000 or so, uh,
I got a phone call on a Friday night, um, uh,
from the person, the doctor who was teaching the pediatric
(01:41):
class saying, um, I'm retiring. Can you come and teach pediatrics?
And just I just want you to imagine, like a
waiting room full of people and kids and stuff. And
I'm sitting there on the phone, and this was before
they had cordless. So this is with the wires and stuff.
And I'm sitting there like this going, uh, can I
call you back and talk to my wife first? Um, and,
(02:01):
you know, we said yes, of course. And, uh, came
down in 2001. So it's been a crazy ride ever since. Wow. Yeah.
S1 (02:09):
How amazing. So you've been a pediatric chiropractor since the
very beginning?
S2 (02:14):
Almost. Uh, the Larry Webster was my teacher. Yeah. Uh,
who was the founder of the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association? Uh,
and we just had our gathering over the weekend, which
was amazing. Um, and, uh, he and I kept in
touch after we graduated, I graduated, I was actually going
into sports, so I actually got my certification in sports
(02:36):
two years after I graduated, because I'm a hockey player
and I wanted to be a hockey chiropractor. Gotcha. But
and this is nothing against anybody who likes sports. Um, but, um,
I found that athletes were, like, smelly and demanding.
S1 (02:53):
What can I relate?
S3 (02:54):
Yeah.
S2 (02:55):
So, uh, I was not as satisfied as I thought
I was going to be as I was making this happen. Yeah.
And Doctor Webster and I had kept in touch, and
I saw him at a seminar, uh, and he said, drew, um,
this sports thing. Not for you. Um, autism. And this
is around 93, 94, 95, uh, when autism was really
(03:16):
just like, it's just just starting to have an uptick.
And I'm like, autism, like, you mentioned that in class. Like,
once he said, drew, I'm telling you, autism, start studying it.
It's going to be big. And I'm so glad that
I took his advice because that like that little couple
of sentence interchange that we had, you know, together changed
(03:38):
the direction of my career. Wow. So after that, I started,
I kind of ditched all the sports stuff and started
going towards pediatrics. And it's been like just crazy ever since.
S1 (03:48):
Oh my goodness. So where where do you where do
you even like start if you have a passion for
pediatric chiropractic? Well, let's backtrack. Actually, um, for those who
don't know what pediatric chiropractic is or means or looks like,
what is what, what does that experience look like for
an average child that goes into an office with parents?
S2 (04:07):
So, I mean, any chiropractor is trained at any accredited CCE,
you know, chiropractic school, how to take care of kids
on a very basic level, like a basic minimum level.
But if you really want to learn how to take
care of kids, you've got to get certification after you graduate. Uh,
and certainly Life University has three electives, uh, pediatric electives.
(04:28):
So you should take those two. But besides, if you're
not a Life University student, um, there's the icpa, the
International Chiropractic Pediatric Association, there's other organizations. You've got to
get extra training. Because kids today especially, there's so much
stuff going on with these kiddos that the cursory courses
that you get are good for, like, your average kiddo,
(04:50):
but they're not good for the the special cases that
we're going to be end up seeing.
S1 (04:55):
And you mentioned also it kind of started with autism.
Talk to me about that relationship and how can chiropractic
impact that life.
S2 (05:03):
Yeah. So, uh, it is astonishing. Um, you know, when I,
I remember when I first started taking care of kids
with autism, after Webster's admonishment, um, I really didn't know
what to do because they don't. Their nervous systems aren't
like our nerve systems. They don't respond the way ours respond.
They are either super sensitive or under sensitive. So you've
(05:27):
got to learn how to approach that. And there's got
to be you can't. Well, you could, but it is
better for you, as Webster taught me to do more
like tonal bass work and more gentle work, and kind
of approach the nerve system the same way you would approach,
like any sort of difficult situation. You got to kind
of really study it. And like, I look at the
(05:50):
nerve system like a butterfly, like you don't want to
crush that butterfly. You want to hold it nice and
gently until you figure it out. So here's just a
case of two cases in point. So mama brings a
very difficult case last week to me on the spectrum.
At three years old, minimally speaking, you know, screaming, crying
like I walked in the door and he's just, ah,
(06:11):
just freaking out, freaking out. And it took us like
several tries to, like we would go in and do
some things, get out, go into always making sure he's
calming down. I gave him some food. I said, here,
have an apple. Food always helps. So he's finally calmed
down and then the next visit was his first adjustment
ever in his whole life. The mom did very gentle
(06:32):
tonal work on him and he was standing. He wasn't.
This is not traditional adjustments. So you're not lying down
on a bench. He was standing next to his mom. Um,
and the mom texted me later on said he said
his first independent words. When we got home, he said,
take a bath. When they opened the door to go
in the house. And it's the first time he's ever
(06:52):
made a sentence other than like these random words once
in a while, right?
S1 (06:56):
It's got so many goosebumps.
S2 (06:57):
It's just crazy. It's crazy. And then last night, there's
another example, kiddo. Another three year old, minimally speaking kiddo.
He's crying and screaming, whatever. And I told the parent,
I said, just take him for a walk. And because
he wasn't calming down and even food wasn't helping, take
him for a walk and then bring it back in.
So I feel like my understanding that I've learned over
(07:18):
the years with kids on the spectrum showed me he
wasn't ready. His little brain and body, even though he
couldn't say I'm not ready, knew that they took a walk.
They came back in. He was a lot calmer, and
he went up to me and he sat on my
lap and he gave me a hug.
S1 (07:34):
Oh my goodness.
S2 (07:34):
Which he's never done with anybody else except for his
mom or dad. And it just sat there and went
like this because his, his little brain, he was going like, you,
you got me like you understood what I needed. You're
good with that. And now you can do what you want.
And that's like, that's the the amount of effort it's
taken for for me to become like, I'm. I speak
(07:56):
their language, I speak autism, I like saying, you know,
because every the the Spanish and French and German, all
these different languages aside from English, but there's also the
language of autism. But the difference with them is that
every kid's got their own language. So you have to
learn every kid's special language.
S1 (08:12):
Yeah. To continually adapt, to have to make that connection. Right.
That's beautiful. I'm just in awe right now. It's so beautiful,
I love it. Um. You are. I understand one of
the five diplomat holding chiropractor pediatric chiropractors. What does that
mean and what does that entail and how does someone
(08:33):
get prepared for that?
S2 (08:34):
So, uh, in the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association, Ispa, there
are multiple levels. Yeah. Um, the initial level is Webster certification,
which is just one 12 hour class. Then there's the
new perinatal certification, which I think is like 8 or
9 classes that mostly surround, uh, pregnancy and infancy. And
(08:57):
then there's the full certification, which is something like 15
plus classes, uh, postgraduate. Um, and then there's the diplomate,
which is another like after you get certified, another like
300 or something hours worth of classes and a bunch
of other projects and stuff. Um, so, uh, for me
(09:18):
it was like, uh, like Webster was like the ultimate diplomat.
So I have to know what he knows. And but
the amazing thing I found Doctor Veronica is over the
years is the more I know the more I don't know,
and the more the more things I figure out, the
more I have to figure out. So it's a constant,
never ending learning process. I'm always running, running, running, you know,
(09:40):
through this. And I to me, I hope any student
or recent grad who's listening to this realizes that you
don't just go to your full C at the end
of the year and get your 20 things, and that's it.
You got to keep on learning. Keep on learning.
S1 (09:54):
Amen, amen.
S3 (09:55):
Amen, Hallelujah, hallelujah.
S1 (09:58):
And I and I only like clap that and snap
to that because it I thought I thought I was like, wait,
why is this that the one patient with one specific
thing took me to through this rabbit hole of information
that now I have more questions, that I need more answers,
and I keep getting classes and I keep I'm like,
I just needed I need to know to get these
answers right. And quite honestly, a lot of the times
(10:20):
when we have a lot of those conversations with with
patients that come and ask things about neurology or things
about performance enhancement through the way that I practice, um,
I'm like, well, it's not a simple it's not a
simple answer. Let's where do we start? Right. Yes, I
can I can break it down into simple two sentences.
But truly, do you want to know the real answer,
(10:40):
or do you want to know just the what you're
going to Google and find, right, right, right. And it's
really beautiful that there are resources such as like the
Webster and Icpa organization, having created all these certifications, but
the diplomat so that chiropractors that are interested in pediatric
can actually continue evolving and continue making getting questions and
(11:03):
getting answers, getting questions and getting answers and getting deeper
and deeper and deeper into the research and the development
of children and the development of the nervous system and
the overall health and wellness and connectivity and interconnections between, um, chiropractors,
but also between parents and children's and healthcare and children's. Yeah,
and everything in between.
S2 (11:22):
Yeah. It's crazy. And to me, the beautiful thing is
that this chiropractic offers so many different avenues. So I'm.
Also involved with Doctor Melillo's work, you know, with childhood
neurodevelopmental disorders, have certified in his stuff. And I just
can't I can't stop. I'm like, I just need more,
I need more, and it's not I'm not doing it
(11:42):
for me. I'm doing it for the kids. Yeah. Because
the more I learned and can apply that when that
one little kid comes in and he's got some kind
of crazy issue going on, I've learned something that can
help him or her. Uh, and that to me is
so exciting to me, to have like, these resources is
just super cool. So never, never, ever stop learning.
S1 (12:05):
Mind blowing, I love it. Um, doctor Rubin, you've been
at Life University for 23 years. Three years? Yeah, almost.
Almost half the time of what the university has been open.
We are celebrating the 50th year of life. University. Yes.
We are. Um, talk to me about what you've seen
in this 23 years that you've been here, from the
(12:27):
moment that you started that growth. But also where you
would love to, like, be celebrated for the 50th year. Um.
S3 (12:34):
Go ahead. Yeah.
S2 (12:35):
So, you know, when I was here in the 80s,
it was like the, the heyday of that time. So
there was my classes were giant, you know, classes. Uh, and, um,
when I came down here in 2001, uh, 2002 is
when everything kind of happened with the university. So it
was very interesting to to see the university kind of
(12:58):
morph and change. And then Doctor Rickman, thank God, came
on board and just transformed it back up into his heyday,
you know, status again. So my, my hope is that
we keep on like to me, philosophy is everything. Yeah, right.
What separates what I do from everybody else is our
chiropractic philosophy. And, uh, I can hope that we keep
(13:23):
on being the, the the the the center for chiropractic,
the center for philosophy, the center for vitalism, the center
for all the things that we stood for. Um, that
Doctor Sid stood for. That doctor Rickman stood for that
doctor Scott stands for. I hope we can keep on
taking this into the future. Yeah. And also to realize that,
(13:44):
and this is just my own opinion, that the Veronica
that I really feel that specialization is critical in our
chiropractic today. I find the most successful chiropractors are the
most specialized. And it doesn't have to be pediatrics. It
could be sports, you know, it could be, you know, radiology,
whatever it is, geriatrics. There's so many different specializations, and
(14:07):
I really appreciate the life. University has so many electives
to allow that specialization spark to occur as a student.
So you've got kids who are super, you know, interested
in pediatrics or super interested in sports or whatever it
is that they want. And you can do it here. Yeah. Uh,
and that to me, like between philosophy and specialization, those
two things I think are critical. And I hope in 50,
(14:30):
the 50th, the 100th anniversary, we can see that like
even blowing out more. Amen.
S1 (14:36):
I love that, I love that. And and before we
close out, I have to say thank you. Thank you
for your impact in chiropractic and children. But thank you
for your impact in my career and my development as
a chiropractor. Um, one of the very most like, beautiful
things that I remember in my career here is that
I think you're the only professor that brought a green
book to classroom, and you were the only professor that
(14:59):
brought philosophy into every single day that we sat in
any of the classes that we took with you. And
that spoke volumes. And as a very philosophy driven chiropractor,
now I can I look back and I tell people
I'm like, you know, Doctor Drew very seriously in the
midst of the chaos and the and the going and
(15:20):
the classes, just to have a class and a professor
that grounds you back into the roots of the profession,
it's really beautiful. Thank you. So thank you for the
work that you do. Thank you. Thank you for your inspiration.
I hope that we get to continue working together and
seeing each other and just living a world of chiropractic
and sharing the message, and I'm really excited for the
(15:40):
generations that are still getting to learn from you, and
all those that are still waiting to learn from you.
S2 (15:45):
Well, it's been an honor and a privilege, you know,
to think that I'm, uh, in Doctor Webster's seat right now. Like, wow,
like that just gives me, like, goosebumps, you know, that
the class I'm teaching is the class he taught me.
So it just it it gives me this bubble of,
of thankfulness and, and gratitude for because chiropractic gave me everything.
(16:10):
You know, I was an asthmatic kid. So my first
adjustment was when I was 20 and within a short
period of time that was practically gone. And like so
so I think like how full circle this has become.
And I thank chiropractic and Life University for for just
being here and being the. We're the force. Like, that's
(16:31):
why I look at, you know, you said impact I think.
But Life University is the force that can change chiropractic
and keep chiropractic. Chiropractic. Amen. Yeah. Yeah.
S1 (16:41):
Chiropractic. And with that, thank you so much. I really
appreciate you. Thank you for spending a little bit of
your really busy schedule with us. Thank you for inspiring.
Thank you for being. Thank you for growing. Thank you
for evolving. Thank you for adapting and being here. We appreciate.
S3 (16:54):
You.
S2 (16:54):
My pleasure. It was great being here.
S1 (16:56):
And we'll see you guys on the next episode of
Living Life Alive. You have a beautiful rest of your day.
Bye bye.
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