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Hey, Chris, I'm just curious. Jo sigh.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Stewart had the big talk for loss yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Where have you seen his growth this year?
Speaker 4 (00:07):
Just steady.
Speaker 5 (00:08):
He had a tough OTAs because he came in with
a little bit of hamstring, so he really didn't get
any full speed football. Really, it feels like really till
like training camp, you know. So you know he's a stud.
We think he can play it every down. We think
he helps us on rundowns, hit hitting the run, hitting blocks,
he's really good in coverage and and he's a great rusher.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
So it's just been steady improvement.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
It's like any rookie, you know, it's as you improved,
there's gonna be a little blips along the way, and
those absolutely happened. But you know, we love where he's
at and we think he's gonna be an awesome player
for us for years to come.
Speaker 6 (00:41):
Have there been any moments where you've seen him learning,
either like in the meeting room or on the field
from Byron or Jared?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Oh, all the time.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
He he's a guy that can apply stuff very quickly
from the meeting room to the field. Joe gives those
guys a lot of freedoms within the framework of our
calls when they understand the antent of the calls and
kind of put their own spin on it. And you
can see him, you know, b Y and Verse kind
of taking them under his wing. And you know those
guys are picking on him a lot a lot more now,
(01:11):
So that's how, you know, making fun of him and
versus always kind of making fun of them. So that's
how you know they love them. But but yeah, they've
really taken them, you know, really taken a mentorship role.
It's pretty cool to see those two. They've played a
lot of snaps and even though versus b why are
young players, you know, their veterans at this point.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Thank you, Adam Chris.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Just to kind of build off of what you were
saying about b Y and Verse there, like as them
being like kind of the old guys now in that
outside backer room, Like, how have you kind of seen
them put their own spin on being the leaders in
that room?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, they do it in their own way, versus really
leading by at this point practicing as hard as possible
and you and you can see it, and you know
he's run and on Thursdays he's saying no loafs. He's
making sure everybody gets out of the stack, running the
running to the ball, and those guys are engaged in
the meeting room. It's a very when you're in that
meeting room, you know, with with Joe, they're really talking
(02:14):
about It's a lot of discussion, you know, open discussion.
I would play this block like this, I would play
it like this, I would align like this. So there's
a lot of different things like that. So it's a
ton of interaction and those guys just you know, been
been awesome. And those guys learned from Hoyt last year
and now they're they're just.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Taking the next step.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Like we just said, how would you describe the friendship
between Byron and Jared.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Like like brothers.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I would say, like brothers, they fight, they pick on
each other, but they love each other at the end
of the day. And you know, I think they really
respect each other. They really respect each other's games. I
think they're unselfish and they like to see each other
have success. So it's been pretty cool to see the growth.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And yesterday what led to the decision to keep the
kello inactive.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
You know, we're always just trying to get get the
best guys up and the best roles, and you know,
it's a decision we feel like, you know, with Forbes,
Kobe d Will Dwell was a little bit bagged up
the week before, so that's kind of what led to
that decision. And then you decide, you know, with all
four healthy, what do you think the best matchups and
things like that are going to be.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So you know, we'll see what it leads to Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And all season, guys on the defense have talked about
doing their one eleventh, particularly in regards to the run game,
and that was again a theme yesterday after the game,
like what if anything did you do to try to
instill accountability to do that one eleventh during camp or
early in the season.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
We talked about all the time. Adam like, it's it's
you got to earn the right to rush the passer.
So you know, we love all these blitzes and the
cool stuff we get to do, these cool fronts and
coverages and stuff that we can do, but if you
don't get him into passing situations, then you know you're
never going to be able to do it.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
So and that's you know, run defense is eleven as one.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
It's it's doing your part within the framework of the defense,
and those guys take ownership and accounombity to do that,
and they know if they do their part, we're going
to earn the right to rush.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Thanks Chris, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Stu.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Hey Chris, speaking of everning the right to rush.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
When we talked to Kobe Turner post game yesterday, he
talked about how you and gift game those guys the
green light to play the past more. I guess one,
what about the way you guys were depending the run
yesterday made you comfortable doing that and trusting their instincts
in that way?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And what did you see in the second half as
they winged into that more?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah, really, the second half, you know, we just we
just really tried to put you know where. I think
our guys just made plays and executed and that's really
all it was. It wasn't anything crazy that we did
as far as scheme wise. I think a lot of
the stuff in the first half was was was great
players on their side and great schemes and great players
making making plays. And we just talked about you know,
(04:58):
being one eleventh and doing your job and hitting your shot,
and uh, you know, if you get a tip, you know,
go for it, And that's kind of I think what
Kobe's referring to.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And then with him specifically, just what did you see
in terms of the impact he had for the past
rush yesterday?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Oh, he's done you see on that one obviously, that
huge sack on the I think it was a second
and ten u and he just closes he's a finisher.
And we've kind of said that from his rookie year
and while he's had the numbers that he's had, he's
always been able to do work edges. It's like one
of those guys, Uh, we said it all the time.
He just he just doesn't have a lot of bad plays,
just very few bad plays. He's consistent, he's he's every
(05:37):
single time. You better account for him. And if you're
not on it, if you settle up a little bit,
then he'll he's gonna beat you. And if he gets
a chance, he's gonna finish. Appreciate it, Thank you, thanks.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Too, And then we'll rap with Gary and then Wyatt.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Hey, Chris, what what's the challenge or maybe the advantage
of not having a lot of time to prepare for
the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
You know, we both have the same amount of time.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
So I don't know if it's the advantage and or not,
but uh, you know, we like our short week rhythm
and uh, you know, obviously we've we've done in the
same kind of rhythm these last you know, however, any
three or four years, and uh, you know, our guys
are really good. You obviously you got to walk through
a lot. You're not gonna be able to practice full
speed too much. And are guys really good at walking
(06:26):
through and getting the reps and the metal reps that
they need and they're professional and uh, and we'll be
ready to go.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
This week.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
I guessing is a little bit different with Sean's situation
with another baby and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Are are you guys?
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Have you guys adjusted anything in this short week with
for you and Mike maybe in terms of taking control
of some things that that maybe Sean can't attend to
in the immediate I guess right now.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, well we're off.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Obviously I didn't do my postgame review or anything like
that from last night. Within was a you know, big
change from from a normal Monday, or really from since
the last Thursday. So having you know, set a set
of quick congrats and stuff, like that. But uh, that's
pretty much it. But but we're operating as normal, we're rolling,
and then, you know, me and Sean have always had
a great, you know, obviously a great relationship, and it's
(07:18):
always been kind of a little bit more on the
informal side of as far as when we get together.
We're always he knows every single thing in the game plan.
He knows every single thing we're doing. And it might
be you know, hey, you might just call me down
to his office at a random time, or he might
pop in our you know, meeting room, you know, as
we're as we're game planning, and he kind of goes
through the calls or different things like that. So I'm
(07:41):
sure we'll get together at some point, you know, and uh,
whenever it fits for him, obviously, that's that'd be more
of a question for him.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
You guys did a nice job controlling their running game yesterday.
So I just wanted to ask you poon Afford kind
of quiet as at least kind of a quiet personality,
but what what is he kind of brought to uh
to that front.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
He's a dominant run player and uh, he's just a
great player. That's really what he is.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
And uh, he's quiet, you know in group settings and
stuff like that. But I think if you ask, you know,
those guys in that room or the guys on the defense,
they get to know him. He's got a great personality
and uh, he loves football. He plays really hard and
uh he's he's brought a great veteran presence of that room.
And uh he's been more. He's been better than we
could have ever imagined. He's been excellent so far.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Thanks very much, Thanks g whyt.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Hey, Chris, thanks for doing this. Kobe, you know, has
has gotten a lot of sack production this week. And
I know you're the past couple of weeks and I
know you guys talk about assists and stuff, but what
have you seen that's allowed him to kind of finish
those sacks off?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
You know, It's it's sex are a weird thing.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
It's like, you know, sometimes guys are getting a ton
of pressures and there's the balls coming out, and I think, uh,
you know, for sacks to happen, especially right now, the
ball comes out so fast, so the guys in the
back end have to do their job.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
So it's it's just a product of uh, you know,
I think on his sack last night.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
You'll see some really good coverage and GoF obviously had
to go to his second or third look, and uh,
you know at that time he has that closing speed
like I was talking about earlier. So I don't think
he's doing anything different. You know, I'm not sure what
his numbers were before the buy. I know they're a
little bit lower exactly as far as exactly how many
sacks or anything he had, But he's been affecting the
game from the jump, and just like you talked about it,
(09:28):
it's glad to see it come up on the stat
sheet now.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And obviously, you know, like when we talked to him
and see him in the locker room, he's very happy guy.
But do you see that that switch kind of flip
on game day? And what does that kind of look like?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
He's he flips the switch and practice too.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
He's a competitor, you know, he's obviously I think you know,
you know, as far as how well routed, he is
one of the greatest guys you ever meet, and far
as the type of person and what he does and
and and everything that he's about.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And uh, and he flips the switch up practice.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
If you watch them in individual drills, he's he's standing
in the front of the line and he's making sure
those guys are getting off the ball, getting out of
their stands, doing everything perfect. And he doesn't take any
plays off. And I just remember asking about him. I
showed him clips of him running the ball in college
to the defense last year, just because that's just how
he's wired. And he just said, he's always been kind
of a and you could ask him him this, but
(10:24):
he you know, he said, that's just the mentality he has.
He's always he's always kind of a little bit undersized,
a little bit of this, and every single play never
takes a playoff. And uh, that's why, you know, you
got to be on it every play with him, and
if you don't, he's gonna make you pay.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Thank you, hey, Mike, thanks for doing this. Yes, hey,
Can you give us any kind of update on Davante Adams? Uh?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
No, I can't, truthfully, And I know U Sean.
Speaker 9 (10:52):
I think tomorrow is going to update you guys on that,
but I got nothing for you.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Okay, As Sean said, it didn't look real good. If
if Davante cannot play against the Seahawks, how does that
affect your offense.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Yeah, we'll probably just go out with ten guys just
see what happens.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
No, I'm just kidding, Gary, Yeah, I mean you guys
have seen, you know what, how valuable he's been for
us in so many different ways, you know, even over
the last few weeks, these last two weeks, just the
amount of attention he gets in in situational football, whether
it be the red zone, third down. You know, so
the targets haven't necessarily been there in the red zone
(11:34):
as of late, but it's because you're not trying to
force it into double or triple team, you know. So
he's a he's a Hall of Famer for a reason,
you know, and he's still playing at that high clip
and we're just hoping for the best in terms of,
you know, what's going on down there.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Kannada played a lot of snaps, it looked like yesterday,
And I know Davante has spoken highly of him, so
of the other receivers. If if he is a guy,
if Davante can't play and Kanata has a bigger role,
what what what gives you confidence that that he'd be
able to handle that.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
Yeah, just just that he has been out there and
he's shown it's not too big for him.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You know.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
So he's played a lot of football dating back to
really starting in Jacksonville when we're over in Europe, right,
so you know you trust them. The quarterback trust them,
the coaches trust them, his teammates trust him. Again, it's uh,
he's he's a rookie just by obviously being a rookie,
but he doesn't conduct himself that way when he's on
the field or just kind of how he conducts himself
(12:33):
around this building.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Thanks very much, Gotta.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Gear Well and Mike, thanks for doing this absolutely. I
think who could called Cannate Davante's apprentice yesterday? And I
know that they've worked together a lot. So like, what
specifically are some of the things that you've seen Knate
pick up from from Davante?
Speaker 9 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean he just he's always absorbing you know
all the little new is a receiver play. What's cool
is you know all receivers comes in all you know,
shapes and sizes.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Pooka and Davante are very very different, right and so
you know Puka, yeah he's gonna take some stuff from Davante,
but but there there's their play styles are different.
Speaker 9 (13:14):
A month he has you know, similar traits if you will, to.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Davante in terms of just kind of how they're wired
in their lower half and you know, kind of how
they see the game. So it's been a really cool deal.
A month is a smart dude, as I've alluded to
quite a bit. It was very easy for him to realize, Wow,
there's a lot of things that ty does that I
want to do because my body will allow me to
do it, you know.
Speaker 9 (13:38):
So and and Tate likewise has seen that for month.
I mean, I would say, you know, that's the.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
One that he's really taken a hand to because again
he sees a lot of probably a lot of the
similar traits.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
That he was when he was younger. Thank you got it?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
What Adam?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Hey, Mike, Tyler and Rob are eligible to come off
I are this week? Are you anticipating them being back?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Those are just again some things kind of like with
the Tay deal in terms of you know, stuff that
we're going to probably discuss later in today.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
And you know, it's been crazy.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Boss Man's had a few extra little things outside of
football that he's been dealing with, but he's back at
it now.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Kolbe Parkinson has more touchdowns the last six weeks than
the first five years of his career. I'm just curious.
He's been with you guys for almost two years now,
how have you seen him grow as a pass catcher
in that time.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
I've just seen him grow as a football player, you know.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
I mean, there was a reason that we all collectively,
Sean Less and everyone else, we're thrilled about grabbing him
a year ago out of free agency, just from his
toughness and some of the things that he could do
in all the phases run, you know, past catching and
then pass protection.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I just think he is He's just grown so.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Much as a player, as a man, and just really
I don't want to say accepting his role, but just embracing,
you know, everything that we've asked him to do and
do it at the highest clip that he can. And
he goes to work both in the meeting room and
the practice feel as well as anyone we got on
this squad.
Speaker 9 (15:12):
He is a ram through and through.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Couldn't be happier for his individual's success, which is leading
to you know a lot of the stuff that we've
been able to do offensively.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Shawn has talked about the team naturally progressing into incorporating
thirteen personnel during the Baltimore in London weeks. So when
you entered the buy right after that and knew thirteen
was kind of here to stay, Like, how did that
change the type of cutups and film you were asking
for and watching?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Didn't?
Speaker 7 (15:43):
I mean, you know, I guess you just had to
grab more base defense thirteen personnel, you know, and hasn't
changed a ton. You have to kind of sometimes guess
what a defense is going to do because not a
lot of people are running thirteen personnel unless it's situational ball,
and if they are, you're only getting about four to
six naps a game. You still have to kind of go, Okay,
you know they're going to be prepping for it, so
(16:03):
what's going to be different when they play us? You know,
and you're just kind of playing that guessing game.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
So it's been fun to dive back into. It's kind
of more in the roots of where you know, when
I first started in twenty fourteen, we weren't necessarily thirteen personnel.
We'd sprinkle it in, but typically we'd have a fullback
in there. So twenty two to twenty one mainly you're
going against base defense, right, And so it's been fun
over the last you know, eight weeks or however long
it's been to really dive back into that and you know,
(16:30):
try to put these guys in position to be successful.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Is that guessing game when it came to like how
will they react to thirteen any different than when you
talk about like the guessing game of like how is
a coordinator going to adjust between divisional matchups and things
like that?
Speaker 9 (16:47):
Yeah, I mean it can be for sure.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
You know. It's again you just you don't always have
a ton of data with like I was saying with
with the thirteen personnel, and when you're doing something as
an offense or a defense at a pretty high level,
which I think we are in thirteen personnel, naturally, you know,
you go against a guy like Mike and ad over
in Seattle, like they're gonna have stuff for it, you know,
(17:12):
and they're gonna have stuff that you're not prepared for.
Speaker 9 (17:14):
That's what good coaches do. And they're great coaches over there,
you know.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
So yeah, they whatever they put on tape from us
the first time, they're gonna have something new for us.
And we got to be willing to adjust, and you know,
thankful for our wet. We got smart guys that don't blink.
And you know, whatever they throw at us, we'll be ready.
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